The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1446 - Democrats Set Out To Ban Memes to Protect Their Power

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, Gavin Newsom just signed a law in California banning deceptive memes.

00:00:05.540 But what qualifies as deception and who decides?

00:00:07.960 Also, residents of another small American town are speaking out about the Haitian migration crisis.

00:00:13.380 I debate the moon landing with Joe Rogan.

00:00:15.460 Howard Stern confesses that he hates his own audience and Australia is about to release its own version of The Office.

00:00:21.360 Unfortunately, it looks like Australia is about as good at comedy as they are at breakdancing. 0.99

00:00:25.200 All of that and more today on the Matt Walsh Show.

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00:02:21.620 Just a couple of months ago, at the end of July, an anonymous account on X called Mr. Reagan USA

00:02:27.520 uploaded a satire of Kamala Harris, of a Kamala Harris campaign ad.

00:02:32.420 The user even included this caption with his post just to make sure there wasn't any confusion.

00:02:37.340 It read, Kamala Harris campaign ad, parody, in all caps.

00:02:41.040 But in truth, the caption wasn't necessary.

00:02:43.120 Anybody watching the video understood immediately that it was a joke.

00:02:46.980 And a very effective and funny one at that.

00:02:49.800 In case you missed it, here's part of it.

00:02:51.620 I, Kamala Harris, and you're a Democrat candidate for president because Joe Biden finally exposed

00:02:57.260 his senility of the debate.

00:02:58.700 Thanks, Joe.

00:02:59.420 I was selected because I am the ultimate diversity hire.

00:03:02.500 I'm both a woman and a person of color.

00:03:04.540 So if you criticize anything I say, you're both sexist and racist.

00:03:08.820 I may not know the first thing about running the country, but remember, that's a good thing 0.96

00:03:13.420 if you're a deep state puppet.

00:03:15.900 I had four years under the tutelage of the ultimate deep state puppet, a wonderful mentor, Joe Biden. 0.96

00:03:21.380 Joe taught me rule number one, carefully hide your total incompetence.

00:03:26.560 I take insignificant things and I discuss them as if they're significant.

00:03:30.700 And I believe that exploring the significance of the insignificant is in itself significant.

00:03:36.860 Talking about the significance of the passage of time, right?

00:03:40.320 The significance of the passage of time.

00:03:43.240 So when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time.

00:03:47.680 And there is such great significance to the passage of time.

00:03:51.060 The United States shares a very important relationship, which is an alliance with the Republic of North Korea.

00:03:58.440 It is an alliance that is strong and enduring.

00:04:01.300 And just remember, when voting this November, it is important to see what can be unburdened by what has been.

00:04:08.160 And by what has been, I mean, Joe Biden.

00:04:10.700 Now, this parody ad has racked up more than 60 million views.

00:04:15.920 You can see why.

00:04:16.660 Whatever AI voice was used, it's a pretty, it's actually a very accurate one. 0.98

00:04:21.640 And obviously, the message that Kamala Harris is a ladder-climbing moron and the ultimate diversity hire resonates with a lot of people. 0.93

00:04:29.140 In particular, the ad resonated with prominent Democrats because they realized how devastating it was. 0.97

00:04:34.840 And no top Democrat was more outraged than the governor of California, Gavin Newsom.

00:04:38.700 Just two days after that parody was posted on X, Newsom responded with a threat, quote,

00:04:43.560 manipulating a video in an ad like this one should be illegal.

00:04:47.800 I'll be signing a bill in a matter of weeks to make sure it is.

00:04:51.540 Now, right off the bat, even if you put aside all the specific debate about the law, it's a pretty incredible turnaround time.

00:04:57.400 I mean, when was the last time a politician saw something on social media that he didn't like and promised to outlaw it within a matter of weeks?

00:05:05.780 California is so corrupt and slow-moving that they can't even pass legislation to fix their high-speed rail project,

00:05:10.980 which is tens of billions of dollars over budget because it stalled for about a decade.

00:05:15.800 But when it comes time to memes, when it comes to memes that offend Kamala Harris,

00:05:20.420 Gavin Newsom and California Democrats can move very quickly.

00:05:23.700 When they are personally threatened or offended in some way, politicians spring into action.

00:05:29.400 Otherwise, they just don't care.

00:05:31.240 So we saw that in spades after January 6th, Congress couldn't be bothered to do anything about BLM riders 1.00

00:05:37.460 who were destroying businesses and killing people all over the country.

00:05:41.800 But the moment there was a rowdy protest in the Capitol, everything changed.

00:05:45.940 Doors started getting kicked in.

00:05:47.360 Committees were formed.

00:05:48.920 People went to prison.

00:05:49.920 Now, there have been signs for a while that a similar crackdown might be coming for people who make political memes on the Internet.

00:05:56.880 You probably remember the case of Douglas Mackey, who was sentenced to seven months' imprisonment because he mocked Hillary Clinton voters.

00:06:03.640 And now, true to his word, Gavin Newsom is bringing a similar crackdown to the most populous state in the country.

00:06:10.420 On Tuesday, Gavin Newsom signed three separate laws related to deepfakes and elections.

00:06:15.300 He also gloated about the legislation.

00:06:17.580 Watch.

00:06:17.800 There are a lot of deepfakes out there.

00:06:20.520 There's not a lot of disclosure.

00:06:21.680 There's not a lot of labeling.

00:06:23.100 So among the many AI bills that are on the desk are three specific election-related bills.

00:06:29.680 Do you want to sign some laws?

00:06:34.040 I just thought, you know, why waste your time with a politician unless they're going to do something for you?

00:06:41.340 There's two.

00:06:42.140 Two are signed and three are signed.

00:06:44.840 And this is now official.

00:06:47.420 That is now injunctive relief if you do any of those deepfake election misrepresentations.

00:06:52.880 So that's how easy it is to govern in California.

00:06:56.000 Why waste your time with a politician unless they're going to do something for you, asks Gavin Newsom.

00:07:02.620 That's how easy it is to govern.

00:07:05.180 Except, of course, Gavin Newsom didn't sign those bills for the benefit of any of his constituents.

00:07:08.980 He signed them for the benefit of the Democrat Party.

00:07:12.020 That's why there was no delay in getting these bills passed.

00:07:14.260 All these bills were created this year.

00:07:15.780 As far as I could tell, none of these bills existed in any form prior to 2024.

00:07:20.060 And then once the Kamala Harris parody went up, they were fast-tracked and signed with very little debate.

00:07:25.800 That's too bad because, especially on this issue, debate would have been helpful and illuminating.

00:07:32.540 For one thing, it might have helped Gavin Newsom realize that the Streisand effect is very real,

00:07:37.100 and he's only increasing the popularity of this Kamala ad by trying to ban it.

00:07:40.840 But for another thing, more conversation would have produced a more workable solution to an actual problem that does exist.

00:07:48.300 Yes, deepfakes are a problem in general.

00:07:51.820 We've all probably been fooled at one point or another by a fake audio recording or a fake image.

00:07:56.240 If you've been on Facebook recently, you'd know that there's a whole cottage industry of deliberately misleading AI-generated content on there.

00:08:03.060 And they trick a lot of people every day.

00:08:04.480 And as convincing as these AI voices and deepfakes are right now, they're only going to get exponentially more convincing in the future.

00:08:12.340 And that's going to create all kinds of problems.

00:08:15.220 I mean, something making fun of Kamala Harris is not really a problem.

00:08:19.460 But it's not hard to imagine ways this technology could be used that would be legitimately harmful, if not totally catastrophic.

00:08:29.240 At the same time, as Gavin Newsom himself has warned in the past, there are massive risks to over-regulation.

00:08:37.660 One of those potential risks is that we could end up sabotaging our own economy.

00:08:41.440 AI is probably going to play a very big role in this country over the next few decades.

00:08:44.980 Whether we like it or not, AI will be involved in everything from self-driving cars and trucks to generating thousands of lines of computer code in an instant.

00:08:53.540 And by the way, I don't like it.

00:08:55.100 I wish that that wasn't the case.

00:08:56.780 But it is.

00:08:57.780 So if politicians in this country do what they did in the European Union and start putting up all kinds of regulations and barriers, then we start falling behind as a country.

00:09:08.240 And countries like China end up reaping the benefits.

00:09:12.560 That's essentially the argument that Newsom himself has made actually watch.

00:09:17.200 We dominate in this space, as you said.

00:09:19.880 I want to continue to dominate in this space.

00:09:22.460 I don't want to cede this space to other states or other countries.

00:09:26.700 I mean, this is California.

00:09:29.780 I'm at 35 of the 50 top market cap.

00:09:32.020 AI companies are just right here in our own backyard.

00:09:34.240 So if we over-regulate, if we over-indulge, if we chase a shiny object,

00:09:39.580 you know, we could put ourselves in a perilous position.

00:09:45.020 At the same time, we have an obligation to lead because the world, again, we invented.

00:09:50.980 What's confusing when you watch a relatively thoughtful answer like that is why Gavin Newsom signed these bills yesterday.

00:09:58.440 One of the laws is a sweeping ban on deceptive content, whatever that means.

00:10:03.220 If you post or even share deceptive deepfakes, then your post can get taken down and you can be sued in civil court.

00:10:08.980 Here's how the law defines the word deceptive, quote,

00:10:11.840 Okay.

00:10:41.840 Now, the ironic thing about this law is that while it was intended to prevent mockery of Kamala and other Democrats,

00:10:53.560 it appears to outlaw a lot of conduct that Kamala and her campaign have been engaging in over the past year or so.

00:11:00.580 The other day, CNN ran a whole story about how often Kamala Harris' team posts deceptive content all over the Internet. 1.00

00:11:06.260 Here's the headline, quote,

00:11:07.660 Fact check, Harris' campaign social media account has repeatedly deceived with misleading edits and captions.

00:11:13.740 And of course, Kamala Harris herself has lied about what Donald Trump said,

00:11:17.260 you know, about the Charlottesville protests and the bloodbath and the audio industry and so on and so on and so on.

00:11:23.080 So why exactly is it legal for Kamala Harris and her campaign to be deceptive on social media? 0.95

00:11:28.040 Well, at the same time, it's now illegal to create a deceptive deepfake.

00:11:33.160 How are over lies protected by the First Amendment while only AI deepfakes are illegal?

00:11:38.960 And more to the point, who actually gets to decide whether something is deceptive or not?

00:11:44.180 Especially when politics are involved, it's very difficult to get people to agree that anything is deceptive.

00:11:49.440 For example, you can easily make the argument that the Kamala parody ad isn't deceptive.

00:11:53.860 I mean, it's labeled parody for one thing.

00:11:56.060 And for another, it's a pretty accurate summary of Kamala Harris.

00:11:59.800 And yet, Gavin Newsom said that he'd make it illegal because, in his view, it's deceptive.

00:12:03.640 Now, the other two laws that Newsom signed this week concerning AI and elections have the same problem.

00:12:09.720 The New York Times reports, quote,

00:12:10.740 The second law will go into effect in January, requires labels to appear on deceptive audio, video, or images in political advertisements when they're generated with help from AI tools.

00:12:19.260 The third law, known as the Defending Democracy from Deepfake Deception Act, will go into effect in January,

00:12:26.420 requires social media platforms and other websites with more than a million users in California to label or remove AI deepfakes within 72 hours after receiving a complaint.

00:12:34.360 If the website does not take action, a court can require them to do so.

00:12:38.540 Again, all of these laws refer only to deceptive material, which is a totally subjective standard.

00:12:43.480 The only way to get around this problem is to do away with the whole idea of a ban on deceptive content.

00:12:51.560 It's unworkable in the current system, not to mention unconstitutional, as Gavin Newsom is probably going to find out very soon.

00:12:57.860 In order for a ban on deceptive content to work in practice, we would need to be able to trust Gavin Newsom

00:13:05.060 and any other governmental authority who passes a similar ban to act fairly and consistently and truthfully as arbiters of what is deceptive or not.

00:13:17.060 Now, obviously, we can't trust them in that role, especially because these are people beholden to an ideology that denies the existence of objective truth outright.

00:13:27.560 In this case, Gavin Newsom claimed that the Kamala Harris parody ad was deceptive, even though it was literally labeled parody.

00:13:38.040 So who's to say that the deceptive content is, in fact, untrue or misleading?

00:13:42.320 Maybe, hey, we all get our own truth, right?

00:13:45.220 That's according to them.

00:13:46.840 Maybe it was true to whoever created it.

00:13:49.660 If they're calling something deceptive, why can't the person who created it say, hey, this is my truth, man?

00:13:54.460 In my world, this is true.

00:13:55.900 You can't impose your truth on me.

00:14:00.520 Maybe it's true to the majority of people who saw it, but not to far-left Democrats.

00:14:04.240 What then?

00:14:05.760 Why not adopt guidelines for AI content in general instead of trying to determine what's deceptive and what's not?

00:14:12.520 By rushing these bills through the legislature in time for Election Day, the state of California has prevented these kinds of questions from being asked.

00:14:18.700 The governor was so offended by a video mocking Kamala Harris that he signed a series of heavy-handed laws very quickly.

00:14:26.680 Now, ironically, as a result, there are now a lot of deepfakes of Gavin Newsom circulating on social media right now.

00:14:34.580 And many of them are pretty funny.

00:14:36.100 Unfortunately, because of these laws that Gavin Newsom just signed, people who share them in the state of California could end up like Douglas Mackey.

00:14:48.860 And that could have their lives destroyed for sharing memes, even memes that are very obviously satire.

00:14:54.400 And, you know, that's because tyrants, always and everywhere, have been unable to tolerate one thing, which is mockery.

00:15:06.880 In the case of Kamala Harris, Democrats have realized that she isn't going to get any smarter or more qualified. 0.96

00:15:14.400 She is incapable of improvement at this point.

00:15:19.000 She is, as Joe Biden himself has said, the embodiment of DEI.

00:15:23.780 This is a fact that's so humiliating for Democrats that they want you to punish.

00:15:28.200 They want to punish you for laughing about it.

00:15:31.460 So until this law is overturned in the courts, there's really only one thing to do,

00:15:35.720 which is to prove that the Streisand effect is still very real.

00:15:39.700 Mock these people at every opportunity.

00:15:42.300 Share an unapproved meme or two.

00:15:45.140 Make them regret trying to ban artificial intelligence that mocks Kamala Harris's lack of actual intelligence.

00:15:52.040 And then when this is over with, we can have an actual conversation about how to regulate AI and deepfakes.

00:15:57.460 That's a conversation that needs to happen.

00:16:01.420 And it needs to happen before truth is indistinguishable from fiction.

00:16:06.080 And before politicians like Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris gain any more power than they already have.

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00:17:25.200 Unchecked third-world migration is not just a problem in Springfield, 0.96

00:17:29.480 Springfield, Ohio, obviously, although we're hearing about it a lot there.

00:17:33.000 Many other communities are experiencing a similar crisis.

00:17:38.620 So here's a resident.

00:17:39.340 This is a video that went viral yesterday.

00:17:40.800 It's a resident of a small town in Alabama confronting his city council over the migrant crisis in his community.

00:17:49.640 And there's no mention here.

00:17:51.440 I don't believe there's any mention of dogs and cats being eaten.

00:17:54.780 So we're not sure about that.

00:17:57.280 But there still is a major problem because it turns out that whether or not pets are being eaten,

00:18:02.220 and if they are being eaten, that's like, that would actually be, you know,

00:18:06.680 not even in the top 20 list of the biggest problems caused by unchecked migration.

00:18:11.960 So let's listen to what this resident has to say.

00:18:16.740 I hope you guys don't want to play dumb about it,

00:18:19.440 but a lot of people in Sylacauga and the surrounding area are concerned about the migrant influx that we're seeing 0.83

00:18:26.040 and how that's going to change our way of life.

00:18:28.520 Maybe you don't live in town.

00:18:30.020 Maybe you guys live in a nice neighborhood.

00:18:31.720 Maybe the money is that great.

00:18:33.840 I would like to know how much money you're getting from the federal government to ignore this problem

00:18:38.540 or be complicit in enabling because either way, it's happening.

00:18:42.580 And it's not happening against your knowledge.

00:18:44.940 It's obviously happening in your city, so you know what's going on.

00:18:48.840 And you wanted to shut down the meeting last time, which means we're going to talk about it this time

00:18:53.100 and hopefully not shut down the meeting because we have the freedom to speak in this country.

00:18:57.900 And I wouldn't be here unless I saw that, but I found that very disrespectful and very much against our human rights here in this country.

00:19:07.560 And also with the influx of these migrants, it's against my human right to be trampled on 1.00

00:19:12.800 and to have my economy and my housing prices skyrocket because of federal housing vouchers

00:19:17.360 are going to raise the cost of housing in my city due to the influx of migrants, okay? 0.70

00:19:23.500 Because we all know how that works.

00:19:24.840 A landlord, all they have to do is just tell the feds that it's $5,000 a month for this little old one-bedroom apartment or whatever,

00:19:32.920 and it's really only, what, $800 a month.

00:19:36.080 But at the same time, we're getting their money from the federal government.

00:19:39.040 It's raising prices on everything else around us in the community.

00:19:42.080 It's hurting us.

00:19:43.700 It's raising tax values on properties.

00:19:46.480 And it's not people coming in with a whole bunch of money that want to spend money in Sylacauga and boost the economy.

00:19:51.660 It's people that are coming here.

00:19:52.780 They're not like immigrants of the past, all right? 1.00

00:19:54.600 They're immigrants that are coming in here and getting free houses, free phones, free health care,

00:19:59.080 and not having to do a damn thing for it because it's like an invasion.

00:20:03.220 And as far as I know, all I see are military-aged males.

00:20:06.100 When I walk into the Walmart around here, it feels like I'm in a third-world airport.

00:20:10.120 And I don't see a whole lot of families.

00:20:11.940 So what's going on is what I want to know.

00:20:15.280 So there's a lot of anger in his voice, in his words, justified anger, righteous anger.

00:20:19.940 And I want to pick up on one thing that he said.

00:20:22.040 He said that these are not like the immigrants of the past.

00:20:26.040 And that's true.

00:20:27.080 And it's an important point because we always hear that America is a nation of immigrants.

00:20:33.880 And that's supposed to justify rampant third-world immigration that we're seeing today. 0.99

00:20:40.300 The idea is that we can't complain about it because we're all descended from migrants ourselves at some point in the past, which is true. 1.00

00:20:49.680 I mean, at some point in the past, all of us are descended from people who at some point in the past came here from somewhere else.

00:20:56.200 And that's true of anybody who lives in this hemisphere, to include those who we call, quote-unquote, indigenous. 0.96

00:21:06.300 But there's an enormous difference, though.

00:21:09.560 And it's what the guy in the video is hitting on here.

00:21:12.640 Immigrants in the old days were coming to this country to help build the country. 1.00

00:21:19.660 And that's something the left will acknowledge that.

00:21:22.820 They'll say that this country was built by immigrants.

00:21:26.200 But when they say that, they're making this point for us.

00:21:28.840 Because, sure, in the past, say 200 years ago, immigrants came here and they helped to build the country.

00:21:38.180 They would have moved here and, in many cases, moved out to the frontier and built a homestead

00:21:46.000 and helped to push our country west, taming the wilderness along the way.

00:21:50.460 Right, that did happen.

00:21:53.660 That's a very different thing from what is happening today.

00:21:58.280 Because the immigrants who are coming here today are not moving out to the frontier.

00:22:03.220 There is no frontier anymore, sadly.

00:22:05.460 They're not going out into the wilderness, for the most part, and building a life.

00:22:13.600 I mean, they're not even, like, going out into the woods and living in a cabin or something on a plot of land.

00:22:20.080 That's not what's happening.

00:22:20.880 Instead, they are coming in to take advantage of what has already been built.

00:22:26.820 They're taking advantage of the infrastructure and the programs that have already been established.

00:22:33.040 So they are taking.

00:22:34.340 They are here to take, not to give.

00:22:36.620 They are here to receive, not to sacrifice.

00:22:40.740 They're here to live off of the fat of the land, as it were.

00:22:44.100 And there's a major difference between immigrants who came to take care of themselves and their families

00:22:51.320 and, yes, build the country and survive on their own and thrive on their own.

00:22:56.400 And on the other hand, immigrants who come from third-world countries in the modern day 0.99

00:23:00.560 to take advantage of government programs and entitlements and all of that.

00:23:04.740 So that's the immigrant on the frontier in 1872 and the immigrant on welfare in 2024. 0.87

00:23:21.180 These are two entirely different categories.

00:23:24.300 It's a completely different situation.

00:23:29.440 And so we approach immigration, or we should approach it very differently.

00:23:34.740 And that is what the guy in the video is saying, and it should be a rather obvious point.

00:23:45.300 All right, my newest episode on the Joe Rogan experience dropped yesterday.

00:23:50.080 And I had a great time on the show, second time doing the show.

00:23:55.860 And Joe loved the film, Am I Racist?

00:23:58.340 He gave us his endorsement.

00:24:00.920 So if you're a big Joe Rogan fan, you heard it from the man himself.

00:24:05.200 He said it was a very funny movie.

00:24:06.000 He said, in fact, it was one of the funniest movies he's seen in a long time.

00:24:08.840 So, you know, you should...

00:24:11.560 More incentive to go out and buy a ticket.

00:24:13.680 And we talked about that for a while.

00:24:14.920 We talked about the film.

00:24:17.340 And I appreciated that.

00:24:18.500 And then the conversation verged into the moon landing conspiracy, which has very little to do with the movie.

00:24:26.220 In fact, probably nothing at all.

00:24:28.580 And that's okay, actually, because I thought it was a fascinating conversation.

00:24:32.480 I enjoyed it.

00:24:33.520 And I have to tell you, one of my...

00:24:35.340 I've been listening to the Joe Rogan's podcast for, I don't know, 10 years.

00:24:40.100 And this has been one of my professional ambitions now for probably a decade, is to go on Joe Rogan's show and talk about something like that.

00:24:49.400 Talk about aliens.

00:24:50.620 Talk about moon landing.

00:24:52.940 You know, something in that vein.

00:24:54.680 The first time I did the show, we didn't get into any of that kind of stuff.

00:24:58.020 And so I was actually happy.

00:24:59.200 I'm like, yes, this is my great ambition, is to talk about this kind of thing on this show.

00:25:05.760 So it was great.

00:25:09.120 And I kind of...

00:25:10.020 I was the one who sort of brought it up.

00:25:11.620 I brought it up as an aside in some other context.

00:25:14.660 We were talking about flat earth.

00:25:15.780 Okay, we were talking...

00:25:16.460 So that's another thing.

00:25:17.220 We were talking about flat earth theory, which Joe's not a flat earth guy.

00:25:21.960 And then I mentioned the moon landing conspiracy theory as an aside.

00:25:25.880 I thought that Joe was a moon landing believer like I am.

00:25:30.180 I know he had a joke in his Netflix special recently about denying the moon landing.

00:25:33.360 I wasn't sure if that reflected his actual views.

00:25:37.040 And we talked about it.

00:25:38.080 It turns out that, as he explained, he doesn't outright deny the moon landing, but he is much

00:25:44.420 more open to the possibility that it is a hoax than he was in the past.

00:25:49.440 So I'll play a little bit of that conversation.

00:25:51.240 But this went on, like I said, for like an hour.

00:25:52.820 I think it's worth going and watching the whole thing.

00:25:54.500 But this is about two and a half minutes of that exchange here.

00:26:00.960 The Joe Rogan experience.

00:26:03.260 You're moon landing.

00:26:04.480 You're not a...

00:26:05.740 You believe in the moon landing, right?

00:26:07.100 I used to believe in the moon landing.

00:26:08.400 You don't anymore?

00:26:09.100 I had a joke in my act about it.

00:26:10.520 That before COVID, I would have told you vaccines are the most important invention in human history.

00:26:14.000 And after COVID, I'm like, I don't think we went to the moon.

00:26:16.860 Yeah, I know that was in your...

00:26:17.720 But do you actually think that?

00:26:19.020 I think there is a less than zero possibility that we did not go to the moon.

00:26:22.820 Oh, my gosh.

00:26:23.700 I know.

00:26:24.440 Why do you think we went to the moon?

00:26:26.460 Because it's exactly what you just said about...

00:26:28.440 Well, there's a lot of reasons.

00:26:29.540 But the main thing is what you just said about the earth.

00:26:32.440 The vastness of the conspiracy that would be required to fake that, it's so vast that it's just...

00:26:40.780 It's a lot more incredible to believe that we faked it than to believe that we just went...

00:26:44.900 And going to the moon, don't get...

00:26:45.980 It's a massive achievement.

00:26:49.020 But I think the greatest human achievement of all time.

00:26:53.180 But even so, to fake it, would he be even more massive?

00:26:57.780 Because not only would you need all of these space agencies and all the different whatever people in American institutions to be colluding,

00:27:05.740 but you'd also need foreign governments, including adversarial foreign governments,

00:27:09.320 who at this point certainly would know we faked it and for some reason haven't blown the lid on it.

00:27:14.140 So they're letting us take this achievement that they know...

00:27:17.920 Like, why haven't the Russians come out and said...

00:27:19.820 All those things you're saying are true.

00:27:21.440 I don't argue with any of the things you're saying.

00:27:24.640 But one of the things that I think you have to consider is,

00:27:27.900 if it's not possible for human beings to safely go through the Van Allen radiation belts and out into deep space without much protection,

00:27:36.420 and face the temperatures that are on the surface of the moon,

00:27:40.320 which get up to 250 degrees and 250 degrees below zero in the shadows,

00:27:46.260 there's no environment there.

00:27:47.880 It's hostile beyond belief.

00:27:51.040 Micrometeorites are flying into the moon all the time.

00:27:53.580 They're flying through space all the time.

00:27:55.080 We've never had a single biological organism go out into deep space,

00:28:00.380 pass the Van Allen radiation belts, and then come back to Earth and come back alive,

00:28:04.220 except human beings during the Apollo missions.

00:28:07.500 Saying that it was a hoax is an assertion of...

00:28:11.640 It's not...

00:28:12.480 You're not just denying an event.

00:28:13.720 You're asserting a whole other event that you say happened instead.

00:28:18.060 And there is evidence that we went to the moon.

00:28:21.440 Now, someone who's a skeptic might say it's not enough evidence or it's not good evidence.

00:28:26.500 There's, like, evidence.

00:28:27.620 There's eyewitness...

00:28:28.780 There's people that went and came back and told us.

00:28:31.220 There's footage.

00:28:32.940 There's a lot.

00:28:33.340 There is evidence.

00:28:34.000 But there's no evidence of the hoax.

00:28:36.060 Like, no one has come and said,

00:28:37.700 here's my affirmative evidence that this hoax happened.

00:28:41.780 It's never happened.

00:28:44.120 Okay, so I kind of gave myself the last word in that clip.

00:28:47.400 Like I said, the conversation goes on for an hour,

00:28:49.300 so you have to watch the whole thing.

00:28:50.200 But I think it's a pretty fair summary.

00:28:52.040 Joe's primary issue, his main bone of contention,

00:28:55.400 is the...

00:28:56.680 Though not only.

00:28:59.180 His main is the Van Allen radiation belt,

00:29:02.520 which he says humans might not be able to cross.

00:29:05.160 And my main rebuttal, as you just heard,

00:29:08.040 is that there is strong evidence we went to the moon.

00:29:11.840 Meanwhile, there is precisely zero evidence of the hoax.

00:29:15.860 So, and I just want to expand on that for a moment.

00:29:20.500 Because in case after watching the Rogan episode,

00:29:22.560 you haven't heard me say enough on this topic already.

00:29:26.060 I think I made this point pretty clearly on the show.

00:29:28.400 I returned to it several times.

00:29:29.740 But the main thing is this.

00:29:31.960 Again, there is evidence of the moon landing.

00:29:37.100 Really good evidence.

00:29:38.060 And yet there is no evidence of a hoax.

00:29:42.400 And as I tried to argue,

00:29:45.160 the moon landing hoax is an event.

00:29:51.240 If it happened, it's an event.

00:29:54.060 It is a thing that happened.

00:29:56.300 It's not simply the absence of an event.

00:29:58.880 So, if you deny that the moon landing happened,

00:30:02.360 you're not simply denying that a thing happened.

00:30:05.840 You are asserting some other thing that you say happened

00:30:10.220 instead of the thing that we all think happened.

00:30:15.920 Staging the moon landing and all of that, right?

00:30:18.380 That was, there was a thing that they did.

00:30:21.020 And yet, this to me, I think is really kind of decisive

00:30:27.260 in this argument.

00:30:29.460 Nobody, none of the skeptics have ever presented

00:30:32.180 a single shred of evidence of that event occurring.

00:30:38.180 Okay, so to be very clear about this,

00:30:40.980 to look at the evidence of the moon landing

00:30:43.380 and to pick it apart and say,

00:30:45.040 well, this evidence isn't compelling enough.

00:30:46.760 That is not evidence of the hoax.

00:30:49.800 That is, at best, at best,

00:30:52.940 you are succeeding in calling into question

00:30:55.880 some of the evidence of this other event,

00:30:58.080 which I don't think you succeed even in doing that.

00:31:01.320 And now there's a police car's going by.

00:31:06.620 Maybe they're going after someone

00:31:07.700 who just probably made a deceptive meme, probably.

00:31:10.740 Maybe they're coming from me right now.

00:31:14.280 Okay, good.

00:31:15.280 I don't want to cut any of this out.

00:31:16.600 I want to keep all this in.

00:31:17.480 So this is what's wonderful

00:31:21.300 about doing a podcast in a hotel room.

00:31:24.220 Anyway, as I was saying,

00:31:26.620 even if you succeed in pointing to weaknesses

00:31:33.900 in the evidence of the moon landing hoax,

00:31:36.040 which I don't think that the skeptics do succeed in that,

00:31:38.940 you still have not provided

00:31:40.880 positive, affirmative evidence

00:31:43.060 of the event that you are asserting happened instead.

00:31:47.280 And so you've got

00:31:48.120 you've got this event over here

00:31:51.500 where there's a whole bunch of evidence.

00:31:54.360 Okay.

00:31:54.980 And then you get your event that you claim happened.

00:31:57.780 You have zero evidence.

00:31:59.280 None.

00:31:59.680 Now, what would the evidence of the moon landing hoax be?

00:32:06.160 Okay.

00:32:06.460 Not evidence that the evidence of the moon landing is not good.

00:32:09.800 I'm not talking about that evidence.

00:32:11.040 What kind of evidence could you possibly present

00:32:13.660 to prove that this hoax happened?

00:32:17.060 And well, I don't know.

00:32:19.120 I mean, that's kind of up to you.

00:32:22.020 That's your burden of proof, not mine.

00:32:25.360 But even something like

00:32:27.280 somebody who was involved in it

00:32:33.920 blowing the whistle.

00:32:37.140 Somebody coming out and saying,

00:32:38.660 hey, I was there when this hoax happened.

00:32:42.940 Or even I talked to the guy who was there when it happened.

00:32:49.600 Now, that would not be good evidence.

00:32:50.860 That would be still pretty weak

00:32:52.440 if all you could do is say,

00:32:54.360 well, yeah, I talked to a guy who was there.

00:32:56.280 Or I talked to a guy who talked to a guy.

00:32:58.640 But we don't even have that.

00:33:00.700 And we certainly don't have any

00:33:01.820 firsthand eyewitness testimony.

00:33:04.520 Because guess what?

00:33:05.500 Firsthand eyewitness testimony is evidence.

00:33:07.300 It's not proof.

00:33:08.720 It's not proof, but that is evidence.

00:33:12.660 It's just like it's evidence in a crime.

00:33:15.940 Eyewitness testimony can be wrong.

00:33:17.440 We know that.

00:33:18.160 But it's evidence.

00:33:19.040 I mean, you certainly, if a prosecutor has eyewitness testimony

00:33:21.580 that somebody killed a guy,

00:33:23.640 you're going to bring that person in

00:33:25.180 and they're going to testify in court.

00:33:27.100 Of course they are, because it's evidence.

00:33:28.980 If it's the only evidence you have,

00:33:30.440 it's probably not going to be enough.

00:33:32.380 But if it goes along with other pieces of evidence,

00:33:34.700 then you've got a pretty strong case.

00:33:38.460 Well, over here, there's no physical evidence

00:33:40.200 of any kind of this hoax happening.

00:33:42.580 You know, no one's ever found whatever,

00:33:44.380 or the site where they've staged the moon landing or something.

00:33:47.920 That's never happened.

00:33:52.080 But you also don't even have the eyewitness testimony.

00:33:55.460 And that's kind of what I was getting at with Joe also,

00:33:57.820 that you're not only asserting this event,

00:34:01.480 but you're asserting a conspiracy

00:34:04.400 where everybody that involves hundreds of people,

00:34:09.820 probably.

00:34:10.440 I mean, there's hundreds of people

00:34:12.140 who were involved in the conspiracy

00:34:16.660 and or would have to have direct knowledge of it

00:34:19.520 in order for this to happen.

00:34:20.560 And yet, we've heard nothing from any of them.

00:34:25.100 Decades and decades have passed.

00:34:27.680 And so you've got all these people

00:34:28.980 who work together on this conspiracy,

00:34:30.160 all these people who have knowledge of it.

00:34:32.020 None of them have said a word,

00:34:33.520 not one word ever in decades.

00:34:39.300 That's pretty incredible.

00:34:41.180 And I say incredible in the most literal sense.

00:34:45.260 It's just very hard to believe.

00:34:46.940 So I still stand there.

00:34:48.980 I'm still a full-time, full-on moon landing believer,

00:34:54.700 but I did enjoy the conversation.

00:34:57.780 All right.

00:34:58.480 Daily Wire has this radio shock jock.

00:35:00.380 Howard Stern said he doesn't hate

00:35:02.060 former President Donald Trump,

00:35:03.280 but the people who are supporters of Trump

00:35:05.060 and who vote for him.

00:35:06.620 During his Sirius XM,

00:35:08.060 The Howard Stern Show podcast on Monday,

00:35:10.760 Stern talked about Trump's post over the weekend

00:35:12.420 in which he wrote,

00:35:13.140 I hate Taylor Swift in all caps.

00:35:15.020 Trump's post came on the heels

00:35:16.100 of the pop star's endorsement

00:35:17.260 of Vice President Kamala Harris

00:35:18.400 immediately after the ABC presidential debate.

00:35:21.180 This whole idea of,

00:35:22.780 this is quoting now,

00:35:25.300 Stern told his audience,

00:35:26.520 quote,

00:35:26.980 this whole idea of you like me,

00:35:29.960 you are good,

00:35:30.680 and if you don't, you're bad.

00:35:32.100 I've been the victim of this.

00:35:33.300 I don't agree with Trump politically.

00:35:34.620 I don't think he should be anywhere

00:35:35.480 near the White House.

00:35:37.040 He said,

00:35:37.680 I don't hate the guy.

00:35:39.080 I hate the people who vote for him. 1.00

00:35:40.860 I think they're stupid. 1.00

00:35:42.120 I do. 1.00

00:35:42.680 I have no respect for you.

00:35:45.780 That was what,

00:35:46.540 that's what Stern said about the people

00:35:48.260 who vote for Trump.

00:35:50.240 So he doesn't even hate Trump,

00:35:51.300 he claims,

00:35:51.980 but he hates his voters.

00:35:54.620 Tens of millions of American citizens

00:35:56.340 that he hates.

00:35:57.560 And you know,

00:35:57.840 it's weird with Howard Stern

00:35:58.800 because on one hand,

00:36:01.060 and you hear this from conservatives a lot,

00:36:02.900 that Howard Stern has fallen off,

00:36:04.580 you know,

00:36:05.580 past his prime,

00:36:06.640 fallen off,

00:36:07.240 not what he used to be.

00:36:08.160 He has become a person

00:36:11.860 that the younger version of himself

00:36:13.820 would have hated.

00:36:14.900 And that's true.

00:36:16.480 And now here he is attacking

00:36:18.040 really his own audience

00:36:19.240 or what,

00:36:20.540 what used to be his audience.

00:36:22.860 His audience used to be,

00:36:24.120 I don't know what his audience is now.

00:36:25.580 I honestly have no idea

00:36:26.760 who's still listening to this guy.

00:36:28.080 I've never met,

00:36:29.560 I haven't met anyone in recent years

00:36:31.680 who's a Stern listener.

00:36:32.960 I don't know who that,

00:36:33.800 I don't know who it is.

00:36:35.940 But his audience used to be

00:36:38.060 a very blue collar

00:36:39.120 kind of audience.

00:36:41.200 You know,

00:36:41.540 all men,

00:36:43.440 blue collar,

00:36:44.680 middle class men,

00:36:47.000 working class men,

00:36:48.260 right?

00:36:48.500 Men on their way to work,

00:36:50.020 listening in their cars.

00:36:50.960 That was Howard Stern's audience.

00:36:54.380 Well,

00:36:54.560 the funny thing,

00:36:55.160 the funny thing is

00:36:55.860 that's also Trump's voter base.

00:36:59.280 So Howard Stern hates the audience

00:37:01.640 that made him into what he is

00:37:03.520 and gave him everything that he has.

00:37:06.820 So on top of being

00:37:08.100 a hateful, 1.00

00:37:09.040 elitist prick, 1.00

00:37:10.560 he's also incredibly ungrateful. 1.00

00:37:13.140 He's a backstabbing traitor 1.00

00:37:14.800 to the people who 1.00

00:37:16.520 turned him into this,

00:37:18.460 you know,

00:37:19.020 guy who's worth

00:37:19.780 whatever hundreds of millions of dollars. 0.94

00:37:21.860 So just a terrible human being.

00:37:23.420 But then at the same time,

00:37:24.600 I can't really say that

00:37:26.760 he should still be the same guy

00:37:28.880 that he used to be.

00:37:30.680 Right?

00:37:31.080 Like,

00:37:31.600 I can't really lament that,

00:37:33.480 oh,

00:37:33.740 he should,

00:37:34.640 he should still be like

00:37:36.740 the Howard Stern of old.

00:37:39.220 Because back then,

00:37:40.240 back in his heyday, 0.96

00:37:41.080 he was a degenerate freak. 0.98

00:37:43.680 Right? 0.92

00:37:44.100 Back in those days, 0.98

00:37:44.700 he was like a 45-year-old pervert 0.94

00:37:46.820 talking about how attracted 0.97

00:37:47.860 he was to the Olsen twins

00:37:49.500 who were adolescents at the time.

00:37:51.500 So that's who he used to be.

00:37:53.440 And now he's become this.

00:37:56.460 And I guess the point is 1.00

00:37:57.500 that he's been a scumbag 1.00

00:37:58.420 his whole life. 1.00

00:37:58.960 Just different versions of a scumbag. 1.00

00:38:00.740 So it's not very surprising. 0.99

00:38:02.740 As for hating Trump supporters,

00:38:04.660 there's nothing very notable about that.

00:38:07.500 We've heard the same sentiments,

00:38:08.760 maybe not quite as explicit,

00:38:10.180 but close from Hillary Clinton.

00:38:11.920 Hear it from the media all the time.

00:38:14.000 Extremely common.

00:38:16.060 And this is the way they all feel,

00:38:18.260 of course.

00:38:21.620 And it's not just about Trump,

00:38:23.260 really.

00:38:24.420 I mean,

00:38:24.680 when Trump is no longer

00:38:26.700 on the political scene,

00:38:27.700 which will,

00:38:28.760 that's going to be the case

00:38:29.920 in relatively soon

00:38:31.480 in the next few years,

00:38:32.480 no matter what happens.

00:38:35.880 And when he's no longer

00:38:36.880 on the political scene,

00:38:38.860 they're going to have this,

00:38:41.380 whoever the next Republican nominee is,

00:38:44.020 they're going to feel the same way

00:38:45.380 about the supporters of that person,

00:38:47.260 whoever it is.

00:38:47.900 It doesn't matter who it is.

00:38:50.580 And why do they feel that way?

00:38:51.680 Because if you show

00:38:53.120 that you are defiant

00:38:55.200 and you refuse to go along

00:38:58.020 with the program,

00:38:59.060 that being their program,

00:39:00.740 the program they've set out for you,

00:39:03.680 right?

00:39:03.960 They've laid it out.

00:39:05.420 They've told you,

00:39:06.480 this is how you're supposed to live.

00:39:08.580 These are the things

00:39:10.040 you're supposed to say.

00:39:10.900 This is what you're supposed to do.

00:39:12.640 These are the priorities

00:39:13.640 you're supposed to have,

00:39:14.360 the values you're supposed to have.

00:39:15.900 They've laid it all out very clearly.

00:39:18.680 And if you look at that

00:39:19.820 and say,

00:39:20.320 yeah,

00:39:20.800 no thanks.

00:39:21.680 And I'm going to live

00:39:23.660 a different way than that.

00:39:24.900 Then they hate you for that.

00:39:27.560 And that's all that it really is.

00:39:31.040 Which is also why

00:39:32.560 any talk of unity

00:39:35.520 in this country,

00:39:37.140 when you hear it from,

00:39:38.240 especially Democrat politicians,

00:39:40.040 when you hear from Kamala Harris,

00:39:41.540 all that talk is just,

00:39:43.240 it's meaningless.

00:39:44.400 And they don't really mean it.

00:39:46.300 And it can't happen.

00:39:48.640 Especially coming from people 1.00

00:39:50.080 who you despise

00:39:52.420 half of the country.

00:39:53.360 What kind of unity

00:39:54.960 can there possibly be?

00:39:57.100 There has to at least be

00:39:58.060 some kind of,

00:40:00.240 as I talk about all the time,

00:40:01.520 there has to be,

00:40:02.180 number one,

00:40:02.800 some kind of

00:40:03.640 shared core value system.

00:40:06.220 Doesn't mean we have to agree

00:40:07.060 on everything,

00:40:07.860 but we have to agree

00:40:08.660 on something.

00:40:09.740 Some kind of fundamental

00:40:10.580 value system.

00:40:11.500 And from that,

00:40:14.560 you can also have

00:40:15.540 a shared mutual respect.

00:40:19.360 And if you have that,

00:40:20.660 then maybe you can be united

00:40:23.200 in some sort of meaningful sense.

00:40:26.480 But if you don't have

00:40:27.140 either of those things,

00:40:28.340 then unity is just impossible,

00:40:30.540 unfortunately.

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00:42:00.760 The number one comedy

00:42:01.460 in America is Am I Racist?

00:42:03.400 And the only way you can see it

00:42:04.680 is in theaters.

00:42:05.960 A week ago,

00:42:06.580 only our fans knew

00:42:07.520 about Am I Racist

00:42:08.240 coming to theaters,

00:42:08.960 but today,

00:42:09.760 it's the number four movie

00:42:10.660 in the country

00:42:11.040 with a 99% audience score

00:42:12.620 on Rotten Tomatoes,

00:42:13.420 and the incredible reviews

00:42:15.280 are pouring in.

00:42:15.960 Yesterday, as I mentioned,

00:42:17.240 I stopped by the world-famous

00:42:18.460 Joe Rogan show

00:42:19.320 to talk about the movie.

00:42:20.540 Take a listen to what Joe Rogan

00:42:21.740 had to say about Am I Racist.

00:42:23.140 Your movie is really funny.

00:42:25.320 It's really funny.

00:42:26.460 By myself,

00:42:27.560 laughing out loud

00:42:28.420 hysterically today.

00:42:30.040 I watched it in the sauna.

00:42:32.020 I watched it in the gym.

00:42:33.700 I watched it...

00:42:34.760 It was...

00:42:36.680 It's one of the best comedies

00:42:38.100 I've seen in a long time

00:42:39.180 because there's so many moments

00:42:40.720 in it that are so uncomfortable.

00:42:42.740 Well, you heard it from Joe.

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00:42:58.160 as we make history

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00:43:01.740 Now let's get to

00:43:02.240 our daily cancellation.

00:43:09.260 Well, if you've listened

00:43:10.000 to the show at all

00:43:10.760 over the past few months,

00:43:11.820 you know that I've been at war

00:43:13.300 with the former penal colony

00:43:15.360 that is Australia,

00:43:16.500 which has transformed

00:43:17.280 in recent years

00:43:18.000 into the single weakest

00:43:20.480 and lamest hellscape

00:43:21.880 on the planet,

00:43:22.660 much as it pains me to say.

00:43:24.780 It doesn't pain me at all

00:43:25.720 to say, but, you know,

00:43:26.540 I'm just trying to be nice.

00:43:27.680 This is a country

00:43:28.340 that literally has a minister

00:43:30.100 of men's behavior change.

00:43:32.660 Someone recently got attacked

00:43:33.940 by a violent octopus

00:43:35.460 on one of their beaches.

00:43:36.820 Poisonous spiders

00:43:37.620 are falling from the sky.

00:43:40.300 They just had a major

00:43:41.160 federal court decision

00:43:42.040 clocking in at around 5,000 words

00:43:43.720 where they couldn't decide

00:43:44.620 what a woman is. 1.00

00:43:45.320 And of course,

00:43:47.140 as I've said many times,

00:43:48.060 most recently in response

00:43:49.120 to the catastrophe

00:43:49.780 that is Alone Australia,

00:43:51.480 their TV show,

00:43:53.440 their television programs

00:43:54.860 are a crime against humanity.

00:43:56.920 But even after calling out

00:43:57.880 Australia as extensively

00:43:58.800 as I have,

00:44:00.960 being one of the only people

00:44:02.140 in conservative media

00:44:02.940 that's following this story

00:44:04.920 about Australia being lame

00:44:06.560 as closely as I am,

00:44:08.780 today I feel compelled,

00:44:10.260 obligated even,

00:44:11.000 to speak up and trash 0.80

00:44:12.440 Australia once more.

00:44:13.700 And that's because

00:44:14.260 I learned this week

00:44:15.500 that Australia is currently

00:44:16.480 in the process of butchering

00:44:17.640 one of my favorite comedies

00:44:19.500 of all time,

00:44:20.840 which is The Office.

00:44:23.360 At least one of my favorite

00:44:25.040 comedies of all time

00:44:25.560 is The Office seasons

00:44:26.860 one through four

00:44:28.020 and the rest of The Office

00:44:29.300 doesn't exist in my world.

00:44:32.480 But Australia is doing a remake

00:44:34.560 and I use that term very liberally

00:44:36.440 to be very clear about this.

00:44:38.520 The point of this remake

00:44:39.500 is not to be funny

00:44:40.560 or amusing in any way.

00:44:41.740 The point is to make

00:44:42.420 a political statement.

00:44:43.260 They want to push

00:44:44.120 their ideology

00:44:44.800 while also destroying

00:44:45.840 the original show

00:44:46.640 by association

00:44:47.820 to the extent that they can.

00:44:50.080 So if you can bear it,

00:44:51.060 here's part of the trailer

00:44:52.320 to give you an idea

00:44:53.200 of what they're planning

00:44:54.460 to do to The Office.

00:44:56.500 Here it is.

00:44:58.040 Big announcement.

00:44:59.280 Can I have a drumroll, please?

00:45:03.080 The drumroll.

00:45:04.180 Lloyd?

00:45:04.900 That's how I drumroll.

00:45:07.020 People ask me,

00:45:08.020 how can I become

00:45:08.720 a great boss?

00:45:09.600 And the answer is

00:45:10.520 having a happy staff

00:45:11.780 that love you.

00:45:12.900 Oof! 1.00

00:45:14.060 This is a proper

00:45:15.280 HR nightmare.

00:45:18.920 As of today,

00:45:20.120 we are all

00:45:20.900 back in The Office

00:45:22.000 full time.

00:45:23.740 What?

00:45:24.560 That's not good news.

00:45:27.780 I'm promoting you

00:45:28.960 to Productivity Manager.

00:45:30.460 Yes, sir.

00:45:31.200 Do I want to support

00:45:32.040 the vision of my branch manager?

00:45:33.740 At all costs.

00:45:35.400 Is this the dark web?

00:45:36.380 No, it's not the dark web.

00:45:38.960 Is that Lizzie?

00:45:39.680 Okay.

00:45:41.800 The perks are coming to work.

00:45:43.420 Riling up Lizzie.

00:45:44.840 Flirting.

00:45:45.880 Watching Nick

00:45:46.520 rile up Lizzie. 0.99

00:45:47.700 What's his name?

00:45:48.580 My crow's name is Russell.

00:45:50.000 Hello, Rusty.

00:45:50.760 How are you, mate?

00:45:51.480 Nick, no.

00:45:52.440 Ah!

00:45:52.880 What?

00:45:54.040 Oh! 0.60

00:45:55.940 We lost one of our own

00:45:57.300 last week.

00:45:58.040 Brian died.

00:45:59.240 We were so close.

00:46:00.740 He's always in my heart.

00:46:01.960 Oh, is he the tall,

00:46:02.680 sad one?

00:46:03.160 Yeah.

00:46:03.460 No, he was the short

00:46:04.260 and smiley one.

00:46:05.080 Yeah, that's what I meant.

00:46:05.980 What nationality is he?

00:46:07.100 Uh, what sexual identity is he?

00:46:08.980 Doesn't feel relevant, does it?

00:46:10.180 Hannah is a riddle. 1.00

00:46:11.420 Swallowed by an idiot 1.00

00:46:12.160 and s***ed up by a moron. 1.00

00:46:13.780 Promoting women 1.00

00:46:14.480 into positions of power.

00:46:16.060 That's my mantra, really?

00:46:17.840 I've never heard you say that.

00:46:19.240 Oh, my back hurts

00:46:20.120 from carrying all my sisters

00:46:21.520 all the time.

00:46:22.760 Ow! 1.00

00:46:26.960 So, the guy says

00:46:28.120 this is a proper HR nightmare

00:46:29.680 and then the trailer

00:46:30.560 is just one banal,

00:46:31.980 seemingly HR-approved scenario

00:46:33.800 after another.

00:46:35.360 He gets the crow's name wrong.

00:46:38.420 That's pretty funny.

00:46:39.580 And the crow flies around,

00:46:41.040 a little bit of slapstick,

00:46:42.920 and the boss lady 1.00

00:46:43.680 doesn't know anything

00:46:44.220 about the employee

00:46:44.740 who just died,

00:46:45.360 and then she says

00:46:45.900 that she likes promoting women

00:46:47.660 to positions of authority.

00:46:49.980 And normally,

00:46:50.640 when you're making a trailer

00:46:51.800 for a comedy,

00:46:52.580 one of the goals,

00:46:55.220 really,

00:46:55.800 the only goal,

00:46:57.620 actually,

00:46:58.020 is to include

00:46:59.080 something funny.

00:47:00.940 You know,

00:47:01.400 maybe a joke or two.

00:47:02.680 You might want to

00:47:03.400 throw in there,

00:47:04.120 mix it in a bit.

00:47:06.460 Or maybe you can include

00:47:07.700 a vaguely funny scenario,

00:47:09.160 at least,

00:47:09.480 so that people can imagine

00:47:11.040 that funny things

00:47:11.940 are about to happen.

00:47:13.720 I can speak with

00:47:14.520 some authority on this,

00:47:15.360 not just because

00:47:15.880 we just released

00:47:16.500 a trailer for

00:47:17.620 Am I Racist,

00:47:18.420 but we're releasing

00:47:20.420 a trailer for a comedy,

00:47:21.540 and so we spent

00:47:23.620 some time talking about,

00:47:25.180 oh, you know,

00:47:25.740 what are the funny moments

00:47:26.860 we want to put in the trailer?

00:47:27.700 We definitely want to

00:47:28.240 have some funny moments

00:47:29.260 in the trailer,

00:47:31.000 but I also speak

00:47:32.560 with authority

00:47:32.920 because I'm a human being

00:47:33.740 with a brain and common sense,

00:47:35.140 and it's a low bar

00:47:36.940 for a comedy trailer

00:47:37.820 to clear,

00:47:38.620 but generally,

00:47:39.660 you know,

00:47:39.960 it gets cleared.

00:47:41.360 That was not the case here.

00:47:42.680 This two-minute-long trailer

00:47:43.840 for the Australian reboot

00:47:44.940 of The Office

00:47:45.440 does not contain

00:47:46.260 a single joke

00:47:47.260 or humorous situation.

00:47:49.480 They had an entire season

00:47:50.560 of material to harvest,

00:47:52.240 and they couldn't find

00:47:53.560 a single moment

00:47:54.560 of real comedy.

00:47:55.420 It also doesn't set up

00:47:57.540 any potentially funny situations.

00:47:59.180 Instead,

00:47:59.420 it does the opposite.

00:48:00.840 It sets up another rehash

00:48:02.380 of the same kind of

00:48:03.380 woke, progressive moralizing

00:48:04.860 that we're all very familiar

00:48:05.740 with at this point.

00:48:07.040 The reference

00:48:07.740 to sexual identity

00:48:08.880 is a pretty big clue

00:48:10.320 that this production

00:48:10.960 isn't going to mock

00:48:12.080 any of the insanity

00:48:12.940 that's taken hold

00:48:13.940 in workplaces

00:48:14.560 since the American version

00:48:15.620 of The Office

00:48:16.020 went off the air.

00:48:17.320 Instead,

00:48:17.720 it's going to reinforce it.

00:48:19.280 As Steve Carell himself

00:48:20.240 put it several years ago,

00:48:21.120 this is a trap

00:48:21.780 that any modern remake

00:48:22.820 of The Office

00:48:23.360 was always going to fall into.

00:48:25.500 E! Online reported

00:48:26.480 in 2018 that,

00:48:27.460 quote,

00:48:27.900 Steve Carell says

00:48:28.560 The Office revival

00:48:29.340 won't work

00:48:30.060 because its humor

00:48:30.860 is completely wrong-minded today.

00:48:33.680 Here's what Carell said,

00:48:34.580 quote,

00:48:35.020 Apart from the fact

00:48:35.600 that I just don't think

00:48:36.320 that's a good idea,

00:48:37.020 it might be impossible

00:48:37.640 to do that show today

00:48:38.440 and have people accept it

00:48:39.340 the way that it was

00:48:39.860 accepted 10 years ago.

00:48:41.560 The climate's different now.

00:48:43.300 I mean,

00:48:43.480 the whole idea

00:48:43.980 of the character of Michael Scott,

00:48:45.160 so much of it

00:48:45.640 was predicated

00:48:46.340 on inappropriate behavior.

00:48:48.160 He's certainly

00:48:48.480 not a model boss.

00:48:49.560 A lot of what is depicted

00:48:50.300 on that show

00:48:50.740 is completely wrong-minded.

00:48:52.460 That's the point,

00:48:53.300 but I just don't know

00:48:54.180 how that would fly now.

00:48:55.180 There's a very high awareness

00:48:56.140 of offensive things today

00:48:57.280 which is good for sure

00:48:58.300 but at the same time

00:48:59.140 when you take a character

00:49:00.200 like that too literally

00:49:01.020 it doesn't really work.

00:49:03.100 So Steve Carell

00:49:03.680 gets it mostly right.

00:49:05.240 Of course,

00:49:05.900 not entirely right

00:49:07.020 because he still has to qualify

00:49:08.040 that,

00:49:09.120 yeah,

00:49:09.280 people are oversensitive today

00:49:10.300 but it's good.

00:49:11.020 It's totally good.

00:49:11.860 I'm not criticizing them.

00:49:13.980 Which,

00:49:14.280 you know,

00:49:14.440 the irony here is that

00:49:15.380 Steve Carell himself

00:49:17.080 would never appear

00:49:19.580 in the office today.

00:49:21.340 He wouldn't do it

00:49:22.640 because he also

00:49:23.680 is woke and lame now.

00:49:27.840 There's just no way

00:49:28.800 that the entertainment industry

00:49:29.960 as it exists today

00:49:30.940 could create anything

00:49:32.060 as funny

00:49:33.160 as that version

00:49:35.260 of the office

00:49:35.820 that he worked on.

00:49:36.880 Not the original version

00:49:38.060 of course

00:49:38.480 but the actual original version

00:49:40.480 the UK version

00:49:41.500 this is even more the case.

00:49:42.960 They definitely,

00:49:44.780 you're not going to find

00:49:45.400 that on network TV today.

00:49:47.440 And that's not a good thing

00:49:50.400 as he claims.

00:49:51.700 It's why so much comedy 0.99

00:49:52.560 is garbage now. 0.96

00:49:53.860 So here's just one example 0.98

00:49:54.900 I mean,

00:49:55.260 you can pull a million examples

00:49:56.300 just one example

00:49:57.200 of a scene

00:49:58.020 from the original show

00:49:59.180 or the original American show

00:50:01.600 that they could never do now.

00:50:04.900 Watch.

00:50:06.120 How are you?

00:50:07.340 I had to have the longest meeting.

00:50:08.840 Oh,

00:50:09.620 welcome to my convenience store.

00:50:11.540 Would you like some

00:50:12.460 Googie Googie? 0.71

00:50:13.640 I have some very delicious

00:50:14.880 Googie Googie

00:50:15.560 only 99 cents plus 10.

00:50:17.440 Try my Googie Googie.

00:50:19.660 Try my Googie Googie.

00:50:20.960 Try my Googie Googie.

00:50:22.500 Try my...

00:50:23.460 Now,

00:50:24.880 no one watching this scene

00:50:25.920 at the time thought

00:50:26.820 wow,

00:50:27.460 that's so bigoted.

00:50:29.220 Steve Carell should be cancelled.

00:50:30.820 This show's a 0.99

00:50:31.340 white supremacist dog whistle. 0.94

00:50:33.580 It's problematic. 0.97

00:50:35.500 Instead they laugh

00:50:36.220 because Steve Carell's character 1.00

00:50:37.280 is a clueless idiot 1.00

00:50:38.360 and that's the whole point. 1.00

00:50:40.820 And then they moved on

00:50:42.000 with their lives.

00:50:42.520 But this kind of humor

00:50:43.120 isn't allowed anymore

00:50:44.120 at least not

00:50:44.900 in the mainstream

00:50:45.740 because

00:50:46.440 it'll be,

00:50:47.600 you know,

00:50:48.300 a poo from the Simpsons

00:50:49.360 situation all over again.

00:50:51.320 And we may remember

00:50:52.100 that character

00:50:53.120 that there was

00:50:53.620 a whole documentary

00:50:54.520 about how

00:50:55.840 problematic

00:50:57.880 a poo was 0.99

00:50:58.740 and then they apologized

00:50:59.620 and got rid of the character

00:51:00.620 from that show.

00:51:01.960 And so,

00:51:02.680 you know,

00:51:02.840 this is what you get

00:51:03.480 and now we get

00:51:04.100 safe jokes

00:51:04.980 about sexual identity

00:51:06.140 and that sort of thing.

00:51:06.840 But the bigger red flag

00:51:08.600 in that trailer

00:51:09.580 is that they've

00:51:10.160 gender-swapped 0.73

00:51:10.920 the Michael Scott

00:51:11.720 and Dwight Schrute characters

00:51:12.900 who are women now. 1.00

00:51:14.860 Yet the characters,

00:51:15.780 as we can tell

00:51:16.180 from the trailer,

00:51:16.980 are still supposed

00:51:18.080 to retain

00:51:18.740 all of the comedic traits

00:51:20.500 of Michael and Dwight.

00:51:24.120 But it doesn't land.

00:51:26.320 Like,

00:51:26.520 it is possible

00:51:27.200 to create compelling

00:51:28.160 female characters,

00:51:29.440 even funny female characters,

00:51:31.000 but not when they are

00:51:32.480 pale imitations

00:51:33.540 of beloved male characters,

00:51:35.280 which is how this sort of thing

00:51:36.780 almost always works.

00:51:37.880 It's why it's

00:51:38.280 almost always lame.

00:51:39.980 You know,

00:51:40.160 when we see a remake

00:51:41.740 and you see a bunch of women 1.00

00:51:43.100 in the lead roles,

00:51:44.900 everybody kind of

00:51:45.360 rolls their eyes now

00:51:46.360 and then we're accused

00:51:48.240 of being sexist,

00:51:49.020 but it's only because

00:51:49.500 we've seen this.

00:51:50.120 It always goes this way.

00:51:51.620 You take characters

00:51:52.700 that are supposed to be male 0.99

00:51:53.780 with their male,

00:51:54.880 with their kind of

00:51:55.320 distinctly male traits

00:51:56.680 and you just

00:51:57.460 throw a woman in there 1.00

00:51:58.900 and it doesn't work.

00:52:00.460 It just doesn't work.

00:52:03.140 Michael and Dwight.

00:52:05.280 In the American office,

00:52:08.640 it's a distinctly

00:52:09.860 male kind of humor.

00:52:11.420 They are male characters 0.64

00:52:12.600 and their character traits,

00:52:13.780 the funny things about them

00:52:15.140 only make sense

00:52:16.440 and are certainly funnier

00:52:18.360 coming from men.

00:52:19.840 It's just,

00:52:20.240 that's it.

00:52:21.800 This is a trend

00:52:22.660 that's so common now

00:52:23.420 that South Park

00:52:24.640 did a whole special

00:52:25.500 called Joining the Pandiverse

00:52:26.820 last year.

00:52:28.260 That's the one

00:52:29.020 where they transformed

00:52:29.960 the South Park characters

00:52:31.060 into a diverse cast

00:52:32.100 of strong,

00:52:32.720 independent women

00:52:33.340 and Cartman

00:52:34.500 as Kathleen Kennedy

00:52:35.400 of Lucasfilm

00:52:36.180 demands that everything 0.98

00:52:37.140 become lame and gay. 0.99

00:52:39.000 Watch. 1.00

00:52:39.480 Is there a problem,

00:52:41.700 people?

00:52:43.940 No problem at all,

00:52:45.100 Mrs. Kennedy.

00:52:45.900 We were just discussing

00:52:46.960 ideas of what to do

00:52:48.460 with the new

00:52:48.920 Prince Eric movie.

00:52:49.960 Put a chick in it! 1.00

00:52:50.760 Make her gay! 1.00

00:52:52.820 Uh, yes, 0.98

00:52:53.620 Miss Kennedy,

00:52:54.340 uh,

00:52:54.820 some of the execs

00:52:55.900 are just expressing

00:52:57.100 that maybe...

00:52:58.020 Well, that maybe

00:52:58.640 we should go a different route

00:52:59.840 than we did

00:53:00.480 with Indiana Jones.

00:53:01.940 Indiana Jones,

00:53:02.740 put a chick in it 1.00

00:53:03.400 and make her name 1.00

00:53:03.960 and gay! 0.98

00:53:05.320 Put a diverse woman in it! 1.00

00:53:06.700 Make it same!

00:53:07.420 But, Mrs. Kennedy,

00:53:09.240 Bambi's a baby deer! 1.00

00:53:11.540 Baby deer,

00:53:12.160 put a chick in it! 1.00

00:53:12.880 Make her gay! 1.00

00:53:13.960 There you are, 0.99

00:53:14.700 Miss Kennedy,

00:53:15.280 the linguine and clam sauce.

00:53:17.560 Uh, excuse me,

00:53:18.480 I believe I asked you

00:53:19.440 to put a chick in this 1.00

00:53:20.140 and make her gay. 1.00

00:53:21.680 Uh, yes, 0.99

00:53:22.460 the chef was a little

00:53:23.280 confused what you meant

00:53:24.320 by that.

00:53:25.120 It means put a chick 1.00

00:53:26.460 in the linguine 1.00

00:53:27.340 and make her gay! 1.00

00:53:30.760 And I want it lame! 0.99

00:53:32.140 So that one clip

00:53:34.080 is guaranteed

00:53:34.520 to be funnier

00:53:35.060 than the entirety

00:53:35.940 of the Australian

00:53:36.600 remake of The Office

00:53:37.520 and you can tell that

00:53:38.280 because unlike

00:53:38.740 the Australian remake

00:53:39.520 of The Office

00:53:39.920 it doesn't seem like

00:53:40.640 a skit that was produced

00:53:41.540 by the HR department

00:53:42.720 of a Fortune 500 company

00:53:44.020 and it's getting at

00:53:45.340 something we all know

00:53:45.900 is happening

00:53:46.320 and not just with Disney.

00:53:47.560 There are too many

00:53:47.960 examples to count.

00:53:48.880 There was the disastrous

00:53:49.680 Ghostbusters remake

00:53:50.700 where they made

00:53:51.260 the Ghostbusters

00:53:51.800 a bunch of strong

00:53:52.520 independent women.

00:53:53.660 Nobody wanted

00:53:54.040 to watch that.

00:53:55.060 There was also

00:53:55.460 the What Men Want, 0.96

00:53:56.980 the remake of the 2000 film

00:53:58.220 What Women Want 1.00

00:53:59.020 which didn't go over well

00:54:00.820 with audiences or critics

00:54:01.780 and they gender-swapped

00:54:02.760 the other way.

00:54:03.880 The Verge,

00:54:04.460 a left-wing publication

00:54:05.320 that probably wanted

00:54:05.980 to like the film

00:54:07.120 wrote that the gender-swap

00:54:08.220 had muddled

00:54:09.040 the film's plot.

00:54:10.500 There was also

00:54:10.960 The Hustle

00:54:11.540 which was a gender-swap

00:54:12.620 remake of Dirty Rotten Scoundrels

00:54:14.240 which had very similar problems.

00:54:16.260 The Atlantic,

00:54:16.820 another left-wing publication

00:54:17.740 that you'd think

00:54:18.640 would be sympathetic

00:54:19.200 to this stuff

00:54:19.820 panned the film

00:54:20.560 as quote

00:54:20.960 a lazy gender-swap.

00:54:22.980 They wrote that it was

00:54:23.660 quote

00:54:23.940 not merely uninspired

00:54:25.240 but sub-inspired

00:54:26.580 de-inspired

00:54:27.620 anti-inspired

00:54:28.600 it feels at times

00:54:29.220 like the consummation

00:54:30.420 of some wicked dare.

00:54:32.720 It also works

00:54:33.280 as a good summary

00:54:33.880 of this new

00:54:34.400 Australian remake

00:54:35.140 of The Office

00:54:35.680 just because all these

00:54:37.040 lazy gender-swap projects

00:54:38.300 are the same.

00:54:38.880 They're driven by ideology

00:54:40.000 instead of charm

00:54:40.840 or passion.

00:54:41.520 They're not edgy

00:54:42.160 or provocative at all.

00:54:43.120 They come across

00:54:43.640 as a mandatory

00:54:45.040 diversity training video

00:54:46.460 that you'd be forced

00:54:47.020 to click through

00:54:47.520 at work

00:54:47.900 instead of an actual

00:54:48.600 piece of entertainment

00:54:49.420 that's intended

00:54:50.440 to make you laugh.

00:54:52.300 And that's why

00:54:53.000 the trailer

00:54:53.400 for this doomed remake

00:54:54.480 of The Office

00:54:54.920 didn't include

00:54:55.460 a single joke.

00:54:56.120 When activists

00:54:56.540 pretend to be entertainers

00:54:57.660 they just can't

00:54:58.920 help themselves.

00:54:59.780 All they do

00:55:00.180 is destroy.

00:55:00.860 They can't create.

00:55:02.700 And right now

00:55:03.260 they're doing

00:55:03.480 everything they can

00:55:04.000 to destroy

00:55:04.500 one of the best comedies

00:55:06.020 that ever aired

00:55:06.480 on television

00:55:06.980 for four seasons anyway.

00:55:08.940 But the truth is

00:55:09.840 that The Office

00:55:10.520 is a comedy

00:55:11.420 that's worth re-watching

00:55:12.700 not remaking

00:55:13.320 and that is why

00:55:14.020 the Australian remake

00:55:15.600 of The Office

00:55:16.300 along with the entire

00:55:17.980 country of Australia

00:55:18.800 once again

00:55:19.820 is today

00:55:21.580 canceled.

00:55:23.100 That'll do it

00:55:23.360 for the show today.

00:55:23.780 Thanks for watching.

00:55:24.400 Thanks for listening.

00:55:24.960 Have a great day.

00:55:25.920 Godspeed.

00:55:33.420 Republicans or Nazis

00:55:34.440 you cannot separate

00:55:36.060 yourselves

00:55:36.560 from the bad 1.00

00:55:37.360 white people. 0.99

00:55:38.420 Growing up 0.58

00:55:38.800 I never thought

00:55:39.340 much about race.

00:55:40.300 Never really seemed

00:55:41.060 to matter that much.

00:55:42.140 At least not to me.

00:55:42.980 Am I racist?

00:55:44.140 I would really

00:55:44.580 appreciate it if you

00:55:45.400 I'm trying to learn

00:55:46.060 I'm on this journey.

00:55:47.440 If I'm going to

00:55:47.780 sort this out

00:55:48.460 I need to go

00:55:49.140 deeper undercover.

00:55:51.780 They don't say

00:55:52.400 I'm racist.

00:55:52.980 Joining us now

00:55:53.800 is Matt

00:55:54.340 certified DEI expert.

00:55:56.660 Here's my certification.

00:55:57.740 What you're doing

00:55:58.200 is you're stretching

00:55:58.900 out of your whiteness.

00:56:00.500 This is more for you

00:56:01.060 than this for you.

00:56:01.500 Is America inherently racist?

00:56:03.020 The word inherent

00:56:04.000 is challenging there.

00:56:05.020 I want to rename

00:56:05.540 the George Washington Monument

00:56:06.560 to the George Floyd Monument. 0.97

00:56:08.160 America is racist 0.98

00:56:09.000 to its bones. 0.99

00:56:10.040 So inherently.

00:56:10.900 Yeah.

00:56:11.320 This country is a piece of... 0.98

00:56:12.580 White folks. 1.00

00:56:15.040 Trash. 1.00

00:56:15.540 White supremacy. 1.00

00:56:16.340 White woman. 1.00

00:56:16.900 White boy.

00:56:17.440 Is there a black person

00:56:18.440 around here?

00:56:18.740 What's a black person 0.81

00:56:19.420 right here? 0.96

00:56:20.040 Does he not exist?

00:56:20.840 They don't say I'm racist.

00:56:21.640 Hi, Robin.

00:56:23.400 Hi.

00:56:23.740 What's your name?

00:56:24.680 I'm Matt.

00:56:25.180 I just had to ask

00:56:25.780 who you are

00:56:26.220 because you have

00:56:26.820 to be careful.

00:56:27.820 Never be too careful.

00:56:28.660 They gonna say you racist.

00:56:29.720 In theaters now.

00:56:30.860 Rated PG-13.

The Matt Walsh Show - September 19, 2024

Ep. 1446 - Democrats Set Out To Ban Memes to Protect Their Power

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