The Matt Walsh Show - August 26, 2025


Ep. 1647 - The Left Still Won’t Let Go Of Their Worst Poster Boy


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In the late 90s, when a six-year-old Cuban-American boy was sent back to his father in Cuba, the media and the public were fixated on his case. Now, a quarter-century later, the same thing is happening.

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00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, Democrats continue to rally around Kilmar Abrego-Garcia.
00:00:04.120 He's a bad person. None of these people would want him in their neighborhood,
00:00:07.200 but they can't drop him now. They're in too deep. We'll discuss also Cracker Barrel tries to clean
00:00:11.640 up the PR mess they've created for themselves. Southwest Airlines announces that fat people 0.50
00:00:15.600 will have to pay for a second seat if they're too bulbous to fit into one. And Donald Trump 0.77
00:00:19.600 makes a move to stop people from desecrating the American flag. All of that and more today
00:00:23.760 on the Matt Walsh Show.
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00:01:55.420 If you were around in the late 90s, you probably remember the saga of Ilian Gonzalez. When he was
00:02:01.960 six years old, Gonzalez's mother attempted to bring him to the United States on a boat with other
00:02:08.600 refugees. The boat sank, the mother drowned, and Gonzalez was rescued by the Coast Guard. His father
00:02:14.260 wanted him to return to Cuba. His relatives in Miami, though, refused, and thus began an infinite stream of
00:02:20.040 weepy cable news segments about this child and how Americans should care deeply about his fate for
00:02:25.820 some unknown reason. Eventually, after several months of this nonsense, the Clinton administration
00:02:30.480 ended the standoff. Janet Reno sent in heavily armed agents who seized the child at gunpoint,
00:02:35.340 threw him on an airplane, and transported him out of the country. It was, beyond any doubt,
00:02:39.920 the single best decision the Clinton administration made in their eight years in office.
00:02:44.460 Whatever you think of the merits of the case, it was an all-time decision, simply because it put an end to
00:02:48.260 months of relentlessly annoying television coverage. It also probably changed the course of U.S. history.
00:02:54.480 I mean, you could make a strong case that this raid led to George W. Bush's victory in the 2000 presidential
00:02:59.160 election. Cubans in Florida were furious that Ilian Gonzalez was sent back for obvious reasons, and
00:03:05.180 because Florida was decided by something like 500 votes in the 2000 election, it was a pretty big deal.
00:03:11.520 At the time, Republicans were seen correctly as the party that would refuse to deport an innocent-looking 0.89
00:03:16.960 foreign child, even if he had no right to be in this country. Rudy Giuliani, who was mayor of New York,
00:03:22.540 went so far as to call federal agents stormtroopers for removing Ilian Gonzalez from the country.
00:03:29.200 Democrats, meanwhile, were seen as heartless thugs for returning this boy to his father in Fidel Castro's
00:03:35.280 Cuba. Now, fast forward a quarter century, and pretty much every aspect of this story is now being
00:03:40.820 repeated, except it's all completely inverted. This time around, of course, Democrats are universally
00:03:47.000 opposed to deportation in every imaginable scenario. Republicans, including Rudy Giuliani, are much more
00:03:54.760 interested in enforcing immigration law and defending law enforcement. And instead of a sympathetic young
00:04:00.620 child whose boat capsized, the main subject of everybody's attention, against our will, is a 30-year-old
00:04:07.400 illegal alien, suspected human trafficker, and alleged wife-beater and gangster by the name of
00:04:12.680 Kilmar Abrego Garcia. This is someone who simply will not go away, no matter how annoying he may be. 0.97
00:04:20.600 Democrats are intent on keeping him in the news cycle. He is the new Ilian Gonzalez. Now, right away,
00:04:26.720 that doesn't bode well for Democrats. I mean, it's one thing to use a six-year-old child to garner sympathy
00:04:31.380 for your platform, whatever it may be. But in this case, they're using one of the least sympathetic,
00:04:38.500 most grotesque foreign nationals that they possibly could have picked. They couldn't find, say, a 1.00
00:04:44.640 teenager who was deported while seeking cancer treatment or something like that. Instead, they're
00:04:50.580 trying to force-feed us a narrative about Kilmar Abrego Garcia, someone no rational person would want
00:04:55.660 living anywhere near them. There's a mountain of evidence, which was reviewed by several judges,
00:05:00.320 that he's a member of MS-13. Police think he was involved in human trafficking. His own wife says
00:05:05.800 he physically abused her. And that's not all. Let's put this up on the screen from a recent DOJ filing,
00:05:11.860 quote, one of the most troubling facts that the government learned in its investigation was how
00:05:15.720 the defendant got into MS-13. According to a co-conspirator, the defendant stated that he
00:05:21.040 participated in the murder of a rival gang member's mother in El Salvador, specifically the mother of
00:05:25.760 an 18th Street gang member. Later, as part of his immigration proceedings in the United States,
00:05:30.320 the defendant claimed that he could not return to El Salvador because he was in fear of retribution
00:05:33.960 from the 18th Street gang. While partially true, the defendant, according to the information received
00:05:38.960 by the government, was in fear of retaliation of the 18th Street gang. The underlying reason for
00:05:42.840 the retaliation was the defendant's own actions in participating in the murder of a rival 18th Street
00:05:47.780 gang member's mother, close quote.
00:05:51.040 Yes, according to the DOJ, Kilmar Abrego Garcia is worried about going back to El Salvador
00:05:55.640 because he helped murder the mother of a rival gang member. He wants asylum in this country
00:06:02.200 because he killed a woman and he's afraid that, you know, the relatives of that woman might be upset
00:06:07.900 about it. So we've come a long way from Ilion Gonzalez, but this is what they're going with.
00:06:14.440 The desperation is palpable and it's also pathetic. Watch. 0.98
00:06:20.820 Omar Abrego Garcia, the Maryland resident whose deportation sparked scrutiny of the Trump
00:06:26.260 administration's immigration crackdown, was arrested again this morning during a meeting
00:06:31.360 with Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Baltimore. Back in March, Abrego Garcia was mistakenly
00:06:37.080 deported to his native El Salvador and held in the notorious Sicot prison for months. Under judges'
00:06:43.040 orders, he was returned to the U.S. in June, then immediately jailed by federal officials on human
00:06:48.580 smuggling charges. Three days ago, he was released again under judges' orders. And this morning,
00:06:54.880 complying with the conditions of his release, he reported to an immigration check-in in Baltimore
00:06:59.520 and was again arrested by ICE. Before his arrest, Abrego Garcia spoke to a crowd of supporters.
00:07:06.960 To all the families who have suffered separations
00:07:12.220 and who live constantly under the threat of being separated,
00:07:18.100 I want to tell you, even though injustice is hitting us hard, we do not lose faith.
00:07:23.580 The administration now says
00:07:25.860 he's being processed for deportation
00:07:27.860 to Uganda, a country
00:07:29.680 he has no connection to.
00:07:31.420 So he's been in this country for a decade
00:07:33.620 and on top of all the other problems,
00:07:35.920 he still can't speak English.
00:07:39.040 That's the
00:07:39.560 extent of his interest in assimilating
00:07:41.580 into this country. Do you know how difficult it is to live
00:07:43.740 in a country for 10
00:07:45.660 years and not learn the language?
00:07:48.020 You have to try not to learn it.
00:07:49.740 I mean, if you just live in a place for 10 years, you should buy osmosis,
00:07:54.140 just sort of pick it up as you go along.
00:07:57.000 And he has no, he's gone out of his way to not assimilate.
00:08:01.380 He came here illegally, allegedly committed a bunch of crimes,
00:08:05.600 never bothered to learn the language.
00:08:08.220 What a catch this guy is.
00:08:10.340 But we're supposed to feel sympathy for this
00:08:12.280 Maryland resident, as they call him,
00:08:15.120 because he has no connection to Uganda.
00:08:17.880 The various outlets, as
00:08:19.680 you'd expect, have repeated
00:08:21.920 this framing, that Garcia is a Maryland
00:08:23.840 man or something along those lines.
00:08:25.840 Almost like they were all handed the same talking point
00:08:27.800 because they were. They're all
00:08:29.780 telling us that it would be the worst thing imaginable
00:08:31.760 for this Maryland man to be banished to
00:08:33.760 East Africa, where he doesn't have any friends to hang
00:08:35.860 out with on the weekends.
00:08:39.100 Or any gangs
00:08:40.020 to be affiliated with, or any mothers 1.00
00:08:41.880 to go kill. Now, first of all, 1.00
00:08:43.840 it does look like this particular Maryland man
00:08:45.500 does indeed have some connections to
00:08:47.420 Uganda, it turns out.
00:08:49.200 As you can see here, Garcia quoted,
00:08:51.180 expressed fear of persecution and torture in
00:08:53.420 Uganda.
00:08:54.940 We can only guess why that might be.
00:08:56.860 Perhaps he was involved in some more murderous gang
00:08:58.940 activities there.
00:08:59.900 I mean, this guy really gets around.
00:09:01.540 This guy's committed crimes all over the world.
00:09:03.580 It's amazing.
00:09:05.900 Allegedly.
00:09:07.080 In any event, he certainly isn't going to
00:09:09.280 Uganda with a totally clean slate, 0.83
00:09:11.020 it would seem.
00:09:12.220 And regardless, even aside from this case,
00:09:13.940 the Trump administration
00:09:14.980 needs to do a lot more than this.
00:09:17.620 A lot more of this, rather.
00:09:19.420 I would say that they need to send
00:09:20.940 many, many
00:09:21.760 more illegal aliens to countries 0.79
00:09:24.980 they have no connection to.
00:09:26.640 I think that's a great idea.
00:09:28.740 If they do that,
00:09:29.780 I'll tell you why it's a good idea.
00:09:30.880 It's a very powerful incentive
00:09:32.380 for illegal aliens to self-deport.
00:09:34.980 Because if you're, say,
00:09:36.140 a Mexican who's living illegal 1.00
00:09:37.780 in the United States right now,
00:09:39.200 there's really no reason for you to
00:09:40.540 voluntarily inform ICE of your status,
00:09:42.540 leave the country and go back home. 1.00
00:09:45.300 You could just wait
00:09:46.240 until you get deported.
00:09:48.080 Worst case, you just end up
00:09:49.260 going back home,
00:09:50.260 which is what you would have done
00:09:51.120 anyway by yourself.
00:09:52.400 Best case for you
00:09:53.400 is they never deport you.
00:09:55.040 But if you know that ICE
00:09:56.820 will send you to Siberia 0.95
00:09:59.520 if you fail to self-deport,
00:10:01.740 well, then you have a very good reason
00:10:03.000 to come forward and self-deport.
00:10:05.780 Millions of Mexicans
00:10:06.800 would much rather be back home in Mexico 1.00
00:10:08.680 than ship to some hellhole overseas
00:10:10.480 where they'd never been.
00:10:13.240 They'd rather go to the hellhole
00:10:14.620 that they've been to
00:10:15.460 and that they used to live in,
00:10:16.600 not some other one.
00:10:18.160 As for Kilmar Garcia himself,
00:10:20.680 the fact is he has a connection
00:10:22.500 to El Salvador
00:10:23.240 since that's where he's from.
00:10:25.360 But he doesn't want to go back there
00:10:26.640 because according to the DOJ,
00:10:27.800 he may have committed a homicide
00:10:28.860 that the local gangs
00:10:29.900 wouldn't approve of.
00:10:31.620 According to Garcia,
00:10:32.420 he'll be hunted by the gangs
00:10:33.520 for reasons that have nothing
00:10:34.440 to do with his own actions.
00:10:35.600 That's according to him.
00:10:37.300 But really,
00:10:37.920 there aren't a whole lot of options here.
00:10:40.740 He suggested that he wants
00:10:41.960 to be deported to Costa Rica
00:10:43.160 because the government there
00:10:44.220 has offered to protect him.
00:10:45.400 But the DOJ won't allow him
00:10:47.020 to go to Costa Rica
00:10:47.620 unless he pleads guilty
00:10:48.500 to him in trafficking charges
00:10:49.620 and serves time,
00:10:50.480 which he refuses to do.
00:10:52.000 Watch.
00:10:52.860 It was reported earlier, Simon,
00:10:54.500 that there was a plea deal
00:10:55.740 put before your client
00:10:57.260 that if he pled guilty,
00:10:58.600 he would serve his time
00:10:59.700 and then be deported to Costa Rica.
00:11:02.000 And if he wouldn't plead guilty,
00:11:03.580 he might otherwise be deported
00:11:04.860 to Uganda,
00:11:05.720 which the administration
00:11:06.320 now says it's working on.
00:11:07.880 So can you confirm
00:11:08.740 that offer was made
00:11:10.400 and did Abrego Garcia
00:11:11.760 reject that deal?
00:11:14.440 So I don't represent him
00:11:15.640 in his criminal matters.
00:11:16.600 I'm his immigration counsel.
00:11:17.980 But the notion
00:11:18.860 that they're using
00:11:20.020 the immigration system
00:11:21.800 and even more specifically
00:11:23.200 the decision of which country
00:11:25.300 someone is going to be deported to,
00:11:27.360 to, you know,
00:11:27.960 to sort of try to weaponize
00:11:29.280 and gain leverage
00:11:30.100 in a criminal prosecution
00:11:31.220 is just flatly unconstitutional.
00:11:33.380 It's very punitive.
00:11:34.060 Well, yes, it is punitive.
00:11:36.220 He's absolutely right about that.
00:11:37.400 That's what happens
00:11:37.920 when you enter this country illegally.
00:11:39.220 You don't get to dictate
00:11:40.220 the terms of your exit.
00:11:42.140 When you're caught
00:11:42.800 breaking into someone's home,
00:11:44.020 you don't get to tell the police
00:11:45.260 what jail you want
00:11:46.680 to be transported to.
00:11:48.560 And when you break
00:11:49.300 into the United States,
00:11:50.060 you don't get to tell us
00:11:51.020 where the deportation flight
00:11:53.200 should go.
00:11:54.600 You don't get to just like
00:11:55.600 look at the map and say,
00:11:56.680 hmm, you know,
00:11:58.180 I'd really like to visit this place.
00:11:59.720 Can you take me to Costa Rica
00:12:00.840 and I'll try it out
00:12:01.700 for six months?
00:12:02.320 If I don't like that,
00:12:03.240 then pick me up
00:12:04.080 and take me somewhere else.
00:12:06.400 No, it doesn't work that way.
00:12:08.760 No, you will go
00:12:09.860 wherever is convenient
00:12:10.740 for us to send you.
00:12:11.980 You have made yourself
00:12:14.500 into a problem for us
00:12:16.080 and so we're going to handle it
00:12:17.560 in whatever way
00:12:18.340 is most convenient.
00:12:19.480 And if it's most convenient
00:12:20.500 to round a bunch of you up
00:12:21.600 all at once
00:12:22.080 and ship you off 0.61
00:12:22.780 to Mongolia or something,
00:12:24.780 then that's what we'll do.
00:12:26.880 Don't like it? 0.91
00:12:27.660 We'll get the hell
00:12:28.160 out of the country then.
00:12:30.580 That's precisely the message
00:12:31.620 that the Trump administration
00:12:32.460 should be sending
00:12:33.300 in order to deter
00:12:34.640 other criminals
00:12:35.440 from entering the United States.
00:12:36.760 To be clear,
00:12:37.240 just because something
00:12:37.860 is punitive
00:12:38.400 doesn't make it illegal,
00:12:39.440 obviously.
00:12:39.940 We have punitive damages
00:12:40.940 in lawsuits
00:12:41.620 that are awarded all the time
00:12:43.360 by juries in this country.
00:12:44.460 Punitive damage
00:12:44.980 is often very, very large.
00:12:46.800 The point of these
00:12:47.380 large damage awards
00:12:48.140 is to make people think twice
00:12:49.440 before they do something illegal.
00:12:51.580 And more to the point,
00:12:52.360 the government offers incentives
00:12:53.580 for defendants
00:12:54.440 to plead guilty
00:12:55.800 all the time.
00:12:56.420 That's why people plead guilty.
00:12:59.280 In return for admitting guilt,
00:13:00.680 defendants can get
00:13:01.500 more lenient sentences.
00:13:03.240 They can get some other charges
00:13:04.500 dropped and so on.
00:13:06.040 Happens every day
00:13:06.940 to American citizens.
00:13:08.420 That's not pressuring anyone
00:13:09.860 into taking a guilty plea.
00:13:11.160 It's giving them incentive
00:13:12.500 to do so if they choose.
00:13:14.960 Now, it'd be different
00:13:16.640 if the government said,
00:13:17.840 plead guilty
00:13:18.340 or else we're going to
00:13:19.000 do something to you
00:13:19.880 that we otherwise
00:13:20.800 could not legally do,
00:13:22.000 like beat you up
00:13:23.080 in your jail cell.
00:13:23.880 But that's not what's happening
00:13:25.120 to Kilmar Garcia.
00:13:27.140 Instead, the government
00:13:27.800 is saying, plead guilty
00:13:28.800 or we'll do something
00:13:30.380 that we have
00:13:31.580 every legal right to do,
00:13:33.240 which will also
00:13:34.260 make your life worse.
00:13:35.800 That's completely fine.
00:13:37.320 That happens constantly
00:13:38.720 to American citizens
00:13:39.680 and no one says
00:13:41.200 a word about it.
00:13:42.160 What we cannot allow
00:13:44.920 and what Kilmar
00:13:46.100 O'Brien Garcia's lawyers
00:13:47.080 want to happen
00:13:47.960 is for illegal aliens 0.99
00:13:49.900 to assume
00:13:51.020 even more rights
00:13:52.480 and protections
00:13:53.020 than U.S. citizens have.
00:13:55.460 But that's already happening.
00:13:56.820 As the lawyer
00:13:57.360 Will Chamberlain
00:13:58.460 pointed out,
00:13:59.420 the District of Maryland
00:14:00.280 has imposed
00:14:00.820 a standing order
00:14:01.780 which prohibits
00:14:02.520 the federal government
00:14:03.200 from deporting
00:14:03.900 any illegal alien
00:14:04.940 as soon as that alien's lawyers 0.74
00:14:06.880 or the alien himself
00:14:07.720 files a petition
00:14:08.760 in the federal court.
00:14:10.180 Doesn't matter
00:14:10.860 what the petition says.
00:14:12.440 The circumstances
00:14:13.360 of the case
00:14:13.820 are irrelevant.
00:14:15.500 Essentially,
00:14:15.880 the courts
00:14:16.320 and the aliens themselves
00:14:17.240 get veto power
00:14:19.160 over deportations,
00:14:20.780 which is the kind
00:14:21.400 of power
00:14:21.780 that none of us
00:14:22.480 have as American citizens.
00:14:24.180 This is the standing order
00:14:25.620 that Obama Judge
00:14:26.540 Paula Zinnis
00:14:27.600 pictured here
00:14:28.480 is enforcing.
00:14:29.680 In this case,
00:14:30.560 it's obviously unconstitutional.
00:14:31.960 The federal government
00:14:32.540 doesn't have to check
00:14:34.200 with a random feminist judge 1.00
00:14:35.700 on some district court
00:14:36.880 before it carries out
00:14:37.620 its responsibilities,
00:14:38.620 nor could the federal government
00:14:39.460 possibly function
00:14:40.740 if it had that obligation.
00:14:43.020 None of the hyperventilating
00:14:44.140 on, you know,
00:14:45.560 network news
00:14:46.500 and none of the crying pundits
00:14:48.820 will,
00:14:49.820 who call this
00:14:50.360 a constitutional crisis,
00:14:51.520 they can do that
00:14:51.880 all they want.
00:14:52.480 But it's obviously intolerable.
00:14:55.240 There's no chance
00:14:56.160 that this remains
00:14:56.820 on the books
00:14:57.280 for very long
00:14:57.820 because if it does,
00:14:59.040 then the federal government
00:14:59.780 will have no choice
00:15:01.100 but to defy the courts
00:15:02.220 and destroy the courts
00:15:04.260 legitimacy forever.
00:15:06.460 Now, the confusing part
00:15:07.540 of this story
00:15:08.020 is that at some level,
00:15:09.280 you have to assume
00:15:10.240 Democrats understand
00:15:11.240 that they have no case here.
00:15:12.620 This is yet another
00:15:13.220 80-20 issue
00:15:14.200 where the vast majority
00:15:15.020 of Americans
00:15:15.540 are opposed
00:15:16.480 to the Democrat Party.
00:15:18.220 Every sane person
00:15:19.100 wants Kilmara Breger-Garcia 1.00
00:15:20.440 to be deported.
00:15:21.280 The only people
00:15:22.240 taking the opposite position
00:15:23.500 are a handful
00:15:24.200 of paid political operatives 0.99
00:15:25.540 and useless journalists 1.00
00:15:26.460 and lunatics, 1.00
00:15:28.040 but I repeat myself, 0.99
00:15:29.560 who have now gathered together
00:15:31.280 to form something
00:15:32.200 they're calling
00:15:32.680 a rapid response choir.
00:15:35.340 Watch.
00:15:36.440 The Trump administration
00:15:37.380 says he will be deported
00:15:38.580 to Uganda,
00:15:39.940 sparking protests
00:15:40.800 and even a song
00:15:41.560 from a group
00:15:42.020 that calls itself
00:15:42.740 the rapid response choir.
00:15:45.060 Kilmar is our neighbor.
00:15:49.640 You can't have him trump.
00:15:52.020 No!
00:15:53.480 Kilmar is our neighbor.
00:15:56.460 You can't have him trump.
00:15:59.380 Now, the irony, of course,
00:16:00.700 is that despite
00:16:01.400 what they're singing,
00:16:02.440 Kilmar is not their neighbor. 0.99
00:16:04.300 None of these people
00:16:04.780 would live anywhere
00:16:05.380 near that guy
00:16:06.200 in a million years.
00:16:07.860 Whether they'll admit it or not,
00:16:08.940 every low-testosterone
00:16:10.400 male and unhappy woman 0.96
00:16:11.660 in this rapid response choir
00:16:13.900 would immediately
00:16:15.320 move out of their homes
00:16:16.280 the instant that
00:16:17.380 Kilmar, Obrega, Garcia
00:16:18.420 or anyone like him
00:16:19.500 moved in next door.
00:16:21.500 So what we're seeing here,
00:16:22.820 as I said in the beginning,
00:16:23.940 is desperation.
00:16:24.980 Democrats' plan
00:16:25.700 for demographic replacement
00:16:26.860 is failing
00:16:28.540 because of the Trump administration.
00:16:30.840 This administration
00:16:31.860 was never supposed
00:16:33.120 to take office.
00:16:34.020 There were a lot of criminal cases
00:16:35.320 and assassinations
00:16:36.220 to stop Donald Trump, 0.97
00:16:37.340 as you may remember.
00:16:38.700 But now that all those efforts
00:16:39.900 have failed,
00:16:40.440 Democrats are in a lot of trouble.
00:16:42.400 As the New York Times
00:16:43.320 reported last night,
00:16:44.280 quote,
00:16:44.700 in the next decade,
00:16:45.500 the Electoral College
00:16:46.200 will tilt significantly
00:16:47.160 away from Democrats.
00:16:48.300 Deeply conservative Texas
00:16:49.280 and Florida
00:16:49.720 could gain a total
00:16:50.780 of five congressional seats
00:16:51.900 in the red states
00:16:52.560 of Utah and Idaho
00:16:53.400 are each expected
00:16:54.340 to add a seat.
00:16:55.540 Those games will come
00:16:56.280 at the expense
00:16:57.260 of major Democratic states
00:16:58.200 like New York
00:16:58.740 and California
00:16:59.320 across all the possible scenarios
00:17:00.680 in the United States
00:17:01.760 that would be considered
00:17:02.480 battlegrounds
00:17:03.120 in the 2032 election.
00:17:04.500 Democrats would see 0.69
00:17:05.420 about a third
00:17:05.920 of their current winning
00:17:06.740 Electoral College combination
00:17:07.900 disappear
00:17:08.600 if population projections hold.
00:17:10.880 However,
00:17:11.580 when looking only
00:17:12.160 at the most feasible
00:17:12.840 winning combination
00:17:13.540 based on voting behaviors
00:17:14.600 in the 2024 election,
00:17:16.040 the Electoral College
00:17:16.300 is far worse.
00:17:17.860 Of course,
00:17:18.620 of Democrats,
00:17:19.400 25 most plausible paths
00:17:20.760 to victory in 2024,
00:17:22.440 only five would remain
00:17:24.700 out of 25.
00:17:27.120 In other words,
00:17:27.640 Democrats are losing population
00:17:29.000 in their power centers,
00:17:30.900 the states they've destroyed
00:17:32.040 with their mismanagement
00:17:33.100 like New York
00:17:33.740 and California,
00:17:35.080 and people are moving.
00:17:37.280 And on top of that,
00:17:37.900 of course,
00:17:38.220 they've also killed
00:17:39.780 millions of their own children,
00:17:41.380 which is really hurting
00:17:42.220 their population numbers.
00:17:43.740 And they're not adding
00:17:44.460 enough new illegal aliens 1.00
00:17:45.760 to make up for the shortfall
00:17:46.880 because many of those
00:17:47.660 illegal aliens
00:17:48.260 are being turned around
00:17:49.460 at the border
00:17:49.940 or deported
00:17:50.600 if they're here already.
00:17:51.900 And therefore,
00:17:52.280 Democrats will have 0.98
00:17:53.180 a very big problem
00:17:53.920 winning any national elections
00:17:55.620 after the 2030 census
00:17:56.780 takes effect.
00:17:57.600 As we discussed before,
00:17:58.880 the previous census
00:17:59.880 also accidentally
00:18:01.720 overcounted Democrats.
00:18:03.580 So if that problem
00:18:04.260 gets fixed,
00:18:04.880 then that's another problem
00:18:05.620 for them.
00:18:06.600 And this is why
00:18:07.440 they're flailing about
00:18:08.280 and using Kilmar
00:18:09.100 Brega Garcia,
00:18:09.960 of all people,
00:18:10.620 as their rallying crime.
00:18:13.360 They don't know
00:18:13.740 what else to do.
00:18:14.920 Looking at the numbers,
00:18:15.760 they understand that
00:18:16.580 they're about to lose
00:18:17.640 most of their political power.
00:18:19.120 Their only hope
00:18:19.680 is to ensure
00:18:20.380 that every gangster
00:18:21.600 and thug in this country 0.95
00:18:22.760 is allowed to remain here
00:18:24.200 and vote Democrat. 0.90
00:18:26.360 With every unhinged
00:18:27.760 song and dance
00:18:28.700 defending this man,
00:18:29.680 Democrats are
00:18:30.560 basically admitting that.
00:18:32.260 They have no other options.
00:18:34.060 They can't even find
00:18:34.800 a sympathetic six-year-old
00:18:35.920 like Ilion Gonzalez
00:18:36.940 to make their case.
00:18:37.920 Instead,
00:18:38.920 they have to defend
00:18:39.560 Kilmar Abrega Garcia
00:18:40.760 because they know that
00:18:41.800 if they don't,
00:18:43.300 that before long,
00:18:44.400 no one else
00:18:45.460 is going to be around
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00:21:25.000 Cracker Barrel
00:21:25.660 has responded
00:21:26.540 to the backlash
00:21:28.340 over its rebrand attempt
00:21:29.960 and here's their statement
00:21:32.580 that they just published
00:21:33.340 on their website.
00:21:35.800 Headline of the statement
00:21:36.680 or the title
00:21:37.180 is
00:21:37.480 Our Promise to You.
00:21:40.040 If the last few days
00:21:41.140 have shown us anything
00:21:41.780 it's how deeply people care
00:21:43.160 about Cracker Barrel.
00:21:44.400 We're truly grateful
00:21:45.520 for your heartfelt voices.
00:21:48.240 Sure they are.
00:21:49.240 You've also shown us
00:21:49.980 that we could have done
00:21:50.800 a better job
00:21:51.480 sharing who we are
00:21:52.500 and who we'll always be.
00:21:53.880 What has not changed
00:21:55.160 and what will never change
00:21:56.080 are the values
00:21:56.680 of this company
00:21:57.240 it was built on
00:21:58.320 when Cracker Barrel
00:21:59.120 first opened in 1969.
00:22:00.500 Hard work, family,
00:22:01.400 and scratch-cooked food
00:22:02.540 made with care.
00:22:04.760 Blah, blah, blah.
00:22:05.720 The things people love
00:22:06.460 most about our stores
00:22:07.200 aren't going anywhere.
00:22:08.520 Rocking chairs on the porch,
00:22:09.700 a warm fire in the hearth,
00:22:11.640 peg games on the table,
00:22:12.920 unique treasures
00:22:13.580 in our gift shop,
00:22:14.840 and vintage Americana
00:22:15.900 with antiques
00:22:16.560 pulled straight from our warehouse
00:22:17.700 in Lebanon, Tennessee.
00:22:19.900 We'd love seeing
00:22:20.600 how much you care
00:22:21.100 about our old-timer.
00:22:22.140 We love him too.
00:22:22.740 Uncle Herschel will still
00:22:23.680 be on our menu,
00:22:24.540 on our road signs,
00:22:25.940 and featured in our country store.
00:22:29.900 While our logo and remodels
00:22:31.140 may be making headlines,
00:22:32.280 our bigger focus
00:22:32.840 is still right where it belongs.
00:22:34.880 Yada, yada, yada.
00:22:35.720 We also want to be sure
00:22:36.560 that Cracker Barrel
00:22:37.140 is here for the next generation
00:22:38.340 of families
00:22:38.820 just as it has been for yours.
00:22:40.280 That means showing up
00:22:41.220 on new platforms
00:22:42.040 and in new ways,
00:22:43.520 but always with our heritage
00:22:44.640 at the heart.
00:22:45.300 after they get through
00:22:51.660 four or five paragraphs,
00:22:52.860 they finally get
00:22:53.400 to the justification.
00:22:54.740 We want to make sure
00:22:55.300 that Cracker Barrel
00:22:56.320 is here
00:22:57.480 for the next generation.
00:22:59.800 Well,
00:23:00.000 was it not here before?
00:23:02.820 So you had to change
00:23:03.600 the logo
00:23:04.060 and make your stores generic
00:23:07.480 to make sure
00:23:09.140 that it's here
00:23:09.880 for the next...
00:23:10.340 It was here.
00:23:11.040 It was already here.
00:23:12.080 The next generation 0.96
00:23:13.040 could go to Cracker Barrel
00:23:14.600 the same way that...
00:23:16.260 Were they not able to see it?
00:23:17.640 It's like,
00:23:18.220 was there some sort of...
00:23:19.820 What are you saying exactly?
00:23:23.480 But,
00:23:24.240 you know,
00:23:25.400 it's always a good sign
00:23:26.080 when you have to write
00:23:26.700 an entire novel
00:23:27.500 to explain your company's rebrand.
00:23:30.180 Isn't that a good sign?
00:23:32.260 Isn't that what you're going for?
00:23:33.260 No, I think actually...
00:23:34.220 No, I don't...
00:23:34.960 A reb...
00:23:35.640 I think, you know,
00:23:36.940 a rebrand is like a...
00:23:38.220 It's like a joke.
00:23:39.520 I mean,
00:23:39.780 this rebrand was a joke,
00:23:40.900 but it didn't intend to be.
00:23:42.180 But it's like a joke.
00:23:43.200 If you have to explain it,
00:23:44.840 then it didn't work.
00:23:47.600 You want to do a...
00:23:48.260 Most rebrands are a mistake.
00:23:50.500 Like, most of the time,
00:23:51.660 if there's a rebrand
00:23:52.520 happening in general,
00:23:53.540 it doesn't matter the context.
00:23:55.300 Any company,
00:23:56.120 any product,
00:23:57.560 most rebrands are bad. 0.99
00:24:01.200 And that's because
00:24:01.900 one of the reasons
00:24:02.460 why a rebrand happens
00:24:03.620 is because you have
00:24:04.600 a bunch of people
00:24:05.320 in the corporate office
00:24:06.640 and in the marketing department
00:24:07.660 who need to justify their jobs
00:24:09.760 and a rebrand is just a way...
00:24:12.360 It, like,
00:24:12.600 gives them something
00:24:13.140 to work on for a while.
00:24:14.920 And that's...
00:24:15.600 That's one of the main reasons
00:24:16.960 why a rebrand happens
00:24:18.020 in the first place.
00:24:18.620 So...
00:24:18.980 But if it's...
00:24:20.400 If it's going to work at all,
00:24:21.600 then it should be intuitive.
00:24:23.040 It should just sort of click
00:24:24.060 and you shouldn't have
00:24:25.780 to explain it.
00:24:27.980 If you have to explain it,
00:24:29.260 then it means that
00:24:30.620 it didn't...
00:24:31.400 It didn't work
00:24:32.420 and now Cracker Barrel 0.95
00:24:34.140 is screwed. 0.95
00:24:35.440 Everyone hates 0.99
00:24:36.220 the new brand.
00:24:37.440 You become a punchline.
00:24:38.620 You can't really scrap
00:24:40.660 the whole thing
00:24:41.240 and backtrack
00:24:41.900 because that's
00:24:42.600 incredibly embarrassing.
00:24:43.480 I mean, you should do that.
00:24:44.460 You should just backtrack.
00:24:45.560 You should apologize
00:24:46.180 and say,
00:24:46.660 hey, this was a terrible idea.
00:24:48.980 We're going to fire
00:24:49.540 everybody responsible for it.
00:24:52.120 Clearly, if you're
00:24:52.940 on a marketing team
00:24:53.840 and this...
00:24:54.800 And you have some sort
00:24:55.980 of great marketing idea
00:24:57.020 and this is the response,
00:24:59.060 if it leads to a PR catastrophe,
00:25:03.140 then everybody associated with it
00:25:05.520 should be fired the next day.
00:25:07.360 I mean, this is...
00:25:09.680 Obviously.
00:25:12.400 So that's what they should do.
00:25:13.620 They should say,
00:25:14.300 like, we fired everybody.
00:25:15.460 We're starting over
00:25:16.360 and we apologize.
00:25:18.240 We're going to go back
00:25:18.740 to how it was before
00:25:19.640 and that's it.
00:25:20.920 But they're not going to do that.
00:25:23.100 They also can't really
00:25:24.200 double down,
00:25:25.040 so they're stuck
00:25:25.740 sort of apologizing
00:25:26.900 and begging everyone
00:25:27.720 to be nice to them
00:25:28.680 and give them a chance.
00:25:31.740 And so it's just
00:25:32.360 an all-around catastrophe.
00:25:34.360 A catastrophe for Cracker Barrel,
00:25:36.020 anyway.
00:25:37.540 But it was also inevitable
00:25:38.560 and, you know,
00:25:39.760 this was inevitably
00:25:40.660 going to happen.
00:25:42.480 Cracker Barrel
00:25:43.320 was destined
00:25:44.140 to alienate
00:25:45.220 its customer base
00:25:46.300 in the same way
00:25:48.580 and for the same reason
00:25:49.980 that so many other
00:25:51.160 major corporations
00:25:52.160 and products
00:25:53.140 and entertainment companies
00:25:54.340 have alienated
00:25:56.060 their customer bases.
00:25:57.900 This is happening
00:25:58.820 all across
00:25:59.480 the corporate world,
00:26:01.400 as we know.
00:26:02.140 and the reason,
00:26:03.920 put aside ideology for a moment.
00:26:05.460 Ideology plays a part,
00:26:06.600 obviously,
00:26:07.100 but the real reason,
00:26:10.060 before you even get
00:26:11.560 to the politics
00:26:12.160 of the people
00:26:12.760 that are in charge
00:26:13.360 of these companies,
00:26:14.420 the reason is that
00:26:16.200 these companies
00:26:16.800 have basically banished
00:26:18.680 straight white males 0.85
00:26:20.960 from their ranks.
00:26:24.240 And you really have
00:26:25.280 to understand
00:26:25.940 and appreciate
00:26:26.540 the extent
00:26:27.860 of this campaign.
00:26:29.900 keep in mind
00:26:33.200 that corporate America,
00:26:34.480 as most people know,
00:26:36.140 used to be run
00:26:37.120 almost exclusively
00:26:38.160 by straight white males.
00:26:40.680 That's how it used to be.
00:26:43.740 Cracker Barrel
00:26:44.380 20 years ago
00:26:45.140 was almost certainly run,
00:26:46.720 I don't know
00:26:47.160 who was in charge of it,
00:26:47.940 but if you went back
00:26:48.700 and looked at
00:26:49.140 a flow chart
00:26:50.860 of Cracker Barrel
00:26:51.620 20 years ago,
00:26:52.360 30 years ago,
00:26:53.300 I'm guessing
00:26:54.260 you're going to find
00:26:55.040 that there's a whole bunch
00:26:56.280 of straight white males.
00:26:58.360 Maybe a few women 1.00
00:26:59.280 here and there,
00:26:59.740 but straight white males.
00:27:02.340 Now, in recent years,
00:27:03.420 that demographic
00:27:04.340 has been run
00:27:05.540 out of town,
00:27:06.020 not just at Cracker Barrel,
00:27:07.120 but in the corporate
00:27:08.460 world generally.
00:27:10.560 You're familiar
00:27:11.260 with the phrase
00:27:11.860 demographics are destiny.
00:27:13.300 Well, that's true,
00:27:13.920 and it's not just
00:27:14.540 true of countries,
00:27:15.260 it's true of companies too.
00:27:17.700 If you radically
00:27:18.520 and intentionally
00:27:19.300 change the demographics
00:27:20.680 of your leadership structure,
00:27:22.900 it will end up
00:27:24.220 radically changing
00:27:24.980 the services
00:27:25.520 and products
00:27:26.080 that your company provides.
00:27:28.320 And now these companies,
00:27:29.120 Cracker Barrel
00:27:29.660 is a prime example,
00:27:31.600 don't know how
00:27:33.240 to appeal
00:27:33.980 to their own
00:27:34.560 target audience.
00:27:36.460 They don't know how.
00:27:38.500 The new Cracker Barrel
00:27:39.780 doesn't know how
00:27:41.080 to be the old
00:27:41.760 Cracker Barrel.
00:27:42.560 That's not to make
00:27:43.360 an excuse for them,
00:27:44.160 but the people
00:27:46.060 running this company,
00:27:46.960 like, they can't.
00:27:48.040 You know, Cracker Barrel
00:27:48.900 was this kind of
00:27:49.640 down-home Americana
00:27:51.600 sort of thing,
00:27:53.500 and the people
00:27:54.680 running the company,
00:27:55.380 they don't know
00:27:55.960 how to do that.
00:27:57.920 And in particular,
00:27:58.940 the people that
00:27:59.820 are in charge
00:28:00.660 of the marketing
00:28:01.220 and PR
00:28:01.820 at these kinds
00:28:02.620 of companies,
00:28:03.340 they don't,
00:28:03.940 they literally
00:28:05.120 don't know
00:28:05.840 how to appeal
00:28:06.900 on those lines
00:28:08.560 to that sort of crowd.
00:28:09.840 Now, when I first
00:28:12.260 saw the rebrand,
00:28:13.460 how they got rid
00:28:16.020 of the old
00:28:16.400 white guy
00:28:17.000 on the logo,
00:28:17.780 how they decluttered
00:28:18.760 the restaurants,
00:28:19.580 made them all look
00:28:20.120 like a Joanna Gaines house,
00:28:22.180 when I first saw that,
00:28:23.340 like so many other people,
00:28:24.940 before I even saw
00:28:25.640 anything about the CEO
00:28:26.320 or anything else,
00:28:26.980 I saw that,
00:28:27.480 my first thought was,
00:28:29.180 okay, well,
00:28:29.740 they put a bunch
00:28:30.180 of women in charge. 1.00
00:28:32.240 It's very obvious,
00:28:33.560 this is very obviously
00:28:34.600 the work
00:28:35.220 of upper-class
00:28:36.520 urban
00:28:38.120 liberal women,
00:28:39.200 mostly under
00:28:40.380 the age of 50.
00:28:43.560 Like, this is,
00:28:44.180 this is,
00:28:45.260 you see that,
00:28:46.200 you look at the restaurant,
00:28:47.280 you see what they've
00:28:47.800 done with it,
00:28:48.560 you look at the logo,
00:28:50.120 and you immediately
00:28:50.820 know,
00:28:52.820 okay, this is,
00:28:53.680 yeah, this is
00:28:54.860 liberal urban women
00:28:56.360 from corporate America,
00:28:58.420 50 to 55 0.95
00:28:59.300 and younger,
00:29:01.120 and also probably
00:29:03.360 some gay men.
00:29:04.900 That's, 0.89
00:29:05.480 that is who
00:29:06.980 is responsible
00:29:07.580 for this.
00:29:09.200 and that is
00:29:11.360 the group,
00:29:11.900 by the way,
00:29:12.580 that runs
00:29:14.220 like everything now.
00:29:15.780 I mean,
00:29:16.120 they're in charge
00:29:17.080 of every,
00:29:18.020 like,
00:29:18.240 they've taken over
00:29:19.040 everything.
00:29:19.860 And not because
00:29:20.760 they've earned it
00:29:21.600 or they've achieved it,
00:29:22.600 but because they've been
00:29:23.580 put into these positions
00:29:24.880 artificially
00:29:25.720 in the name of
00:29:26.440 DEI and feminism 0.55
00:29:27.560 and,
00:29:27.980 you know,
00:29:28.720 girl boss
00:29:29.340 feminism
00:29:30.760 and all that sort of thing.
00:29:32.340 and when I say
00:29:33.940 that this group
00:29:34.460 of,
00:29:34.720 that this group,
00:29:37.740 you know,
00:29:38.000 these liberal urban
00:29:39.360 corporate women, 0.76
00:29:40.720 when I say they've taken
00:29:41.820 over everything,
00:29:42.520 it really,
00:29:43.320 it's even worse
00:29:44.440 than you think
00:29:45.180 and it's worse
00:29:45.780 than I thought.
00:29:49.040 But you have to
00:29:49.860 sort of dig into
00:29:50.900 any particular example
00:29:52.400 to really see it.
00:29:54.460 So again,
00:29:55.160 just using Cracker Barrel
00:29:56.320 as a microcosm,
00:29:57.600 as an example,
00:29:58.400 I want to show you
00:30:00.600 just how radical
00:30:01.320 and total
00:30:03.040 this takeover is.
00:30:04.900 So I spent like
00:30:05.440 five minutes on Google
00:30:06.460 and this is what I found.
00:30:10.380 Just to show you
00:30:11.240 the people who
00:30:12.200 we can assume
00:30:13.240 were primarily
00:30:14.520 responsible
00:30:15.160 for this rebrand.
00:30:16.280 So,
00:30:17.140 first of all,
00:30:18.040 as we all know by now,
00:30:20.080 we have the CEO,
00:30:21.040 female,
00:30:21.620 Julie Fells Massino.
00:30:23.760 Woke woman,
00:30:24.620 comes from the
00:30:25.020 corporate world,
00:30:26.360 probably never eaten
00:30:28.320 at a Cracker Barrel
00:30:28.960 in her life.
00:30:30.420 So we know about her.
00:30:32.080 Next,
00:30:32.540 we have the CMO,
00:30:33.560 the Chief Marketing Officer.
00:30:35.340 Obviously,
00:30:35.820 this person
00:30:36.240 very heavily involved
00:30:37.340 in everything
00:30:37.920 that's happened.
00:30:39.260 This is a person
00:30:39.780 who just came on recently
00:30:40.780 in the last year.
00:30:43.620 And that person's name
00:30:44.740 is Sarah Moore.
00:30:46.520 Obviously,
00:30:47.040 a female. 0.96
00:30:48.240 Another key player,
00:30:49.360 presumably,
00:30:50.140 is Cammie Spillyards-Shafer,
00:30:52.780 Senior Vice President,
00:30:53.700 Chief Restaurant
00:30:54.260 and Retail Operations Officer.
00:30:56.360 Female.
00:30:56.680 Now,
00:30:57.960 I'm not cherry-picking,
00:30:58.860 by the way.
00:30:59.520 I mean,
00:30:59.680 there are some men
00:31:00.360 on the management team.
00:31:01.100 If you go to the website,
00:31:01.800 you can see that.
00:31:03.480 But they mostly have positions
00:31:04.820 like CFO,
00:31:06.180 you know,
00:31:06.420 their financial supply chain officers
00:31:09.480 run by men,
00:31:11.540 presumably not as involved
00:31:12.720 in marketing and branding.
00:31:14.700 Cammie Spillyard-Shafer, 0.99
00:31:15.740 on the other hand,
00:31:16.280 is one of the Cracker Barrel
00:31:17.160 executives
00:31:17.640 who's been on the record
00:31:18.700 issuing statements
00:31:19.640 to justify
00:31:20.520 and explain the rebrand
00:31:22.140 so we can assume.
00:31:23.600 Also,
00:31:24.040 she's in operations
00:31:24.760 so we can assume
00:31:25.420 that she's involved in this.
00:31:26.420 So we have
00:31:26.800 Julie Messino,
00:31:28.640 Sarah Moore,
00:31:30.200 this other woman,
00:31:31.440 all women.
00:31:32.580 Now,
00:31:32.760 in fairness,
00:31:33.200 there's one guy,
00:31:34.380 Chris Edwards,
00:31:35.040 who's the Chief Strategy Officer.
00:31:36.580 Sounds like a title
00:31:37.820 that may be involved
00:31:38.680 in something like this.
00:31:39.980 I have no idea
00:31:40.640 if Chris Edwards
00:31:41.200 is a straight male or not.
00:31:42.680 I have no clue.
00:31:44.040 But he is a male,
00:31:45.940 so that's one.
00:31:47.500 But then you keep going.
00:31:48.320 So let's take this deeper.
00:31:50.640 Like I said,
00:31:51.080 this is five minutes on Google.
00:31:52.140 Cracker Barrel
00:31:53.680 is something called
00:31:54.360 the Marketing
00:31:54.900 and Customer Engagement Team.
00:31:56.900 And if you go
00:31:57.380 to theorg.com,
00:31:59.180 which is a website
00:32:00.240 that,
00:32:01.020 you know,
00:32:01.520 the whole point
00:32:02.040 is transparency
00:32:02.700 for corporate,
00:32:04.400 for companies
00:32:05.300 and organizations,
00:32:06.060 and you can see,
00:32:06.900 you can look
00:32:07.240 at their leadership structure.
00:32:09.400 So you go to theorg.com,
00:32:11.060 you look up this
00:32:11.900 Marketing and Customer Engagement
00:32:13.240 Team for Cracker Barrel,
00:32:14.340 and it tells you
00:32:15.620 that this team,
00:32:16.480 quote,
00:32:16.600 focuses on enhancing
00:32:17.480 brand visibility
00:32:18.300 and customer loyalty
00:32:19.080 through targeted marketing
00:32:20.300 strategies and companies
00:32:21.340 led by the Chief Marketing Officer.
00:32:23.100 The team leverages
00:32:23.740 customer data
00:32:24.580 to personalize experience,
00:32:25.880 drive engagement
00:32:26.400 through digital marketing
00:32:27.220 initiatives,
00:32:27.980 and develops loyalty programs
00:32:29.320 that resonate with guests,
00:32:30.160 all while ensuring
00:32:30.760 that the Southern Country theme
00:32:32.020 is consistently communicated
00:32:33.600 across all channels.
00:32:35.740 Okay,
00:32:36.000 so this team,
00:32:36.540 we can assume,
00:32:37.560 probably helped to mastermind
00:32:39.880 this whole initiative.
00:32:40.760 I mean,
00:32:40.900 that's their job.
00:32:41.600 They come up with stuff
00:32:42.660 to enhance brand visibility.
00:32:45.400 So this is a team that,
00:32:47.220 you know,
00:32:47.500 this is like,
00:32:47.980 this is the team for this.
00:32:50.380 Well,
00:32:50.900 the org then lists
00:32:52.420 the eight people
00:32:53.440 on this team,
00:32:54.180 and again,
00:32:54.440 I'm not cherry picking.
00:32:56.440 This is just what
00:32:57.220 the website says,
00:32:58.160 not being arbitrarily selective.
00:33:01.300 The entire team,
00:33:03.720 the whole team,
00:33:05.540 are women.
00:33:06.460 The entire team,
00:33:07.440 all eight of them.
00:33:08.920 There's eight of them
00:33:10.040 on this marketing
00:33:10.960 and engagement team.
00:33:13.220 All women,
00:33:14.360 run by the CMO.
00:33:15.860 Also a woman
00:33:17.600 who reports to the CEO.
00:33:20.080 Also a woman. 0.91
00:33:24.480 I mean,
00:33:25.260 that doesn't happen naturally.
00:33:27.800 That doesn't happen.
00:33:28.400 That's not like,
00:33:29.100 you know,
00:33:30.780 Darwinian evolution
00:33:32.740 in the corporate world.
00:33:35.080 This is not dog-eat-dog.
00:33:37.100 This is not the dog-eat-dog
00:33:38.160 corporate world
00:33:38.680 that we're used to,
00:33:39.840 where just the best,
00:33:41.880 most ruthless person
00:33:42.940 rises to the top.
00:33:43.940 But we're still not done
00:33:46.560 because Cracker Barrel
00:33:47.480 had help in coming up
00:33:48.660 with this brilliant
00:33:49.220 marketing pivot.
00:33:50.300 In fact,
00:33:50.880 they brought on
00:33:51.260 a very expensive PR firm
00:33:52.600 called Blue Engine.
00:33:55.100 Blue Engine
00:33:55.840 also has a female CEO.
00:33:59.880 So,
00:34:01.120 the CEO
00:34:01.920 of the company
00:34:03.040 is a woman,
00:34:03.700 chief marketing officer,
00:34:04.480 woman, 1.00
00:34:04.760 operations woman, 0.99
00:34:05.580 marketing engagement team,
00:34:06.380 all women,
00:34:06.880 head of the PR firm
00:34:07.620 they hired,
00:34:08.540 woman.
00:34:09.900 Again,
00:34:10.400 that doesn't just happen,
00:34:11.540 okay?
00:34:11.900 You don't end up
00:34:12.620 with women running everything 1.00
00:34:14.220 unless you set out
00:34:16.540 to make that happen.
00:34:18.940 And actually,
00:34:19.340 I have to tell you,
00:34:19.880 to be honest,
00:34:20.520 I was trying to look up
00:34:22.260 Blue Engine
00:34:22.820 and it was a little confusing
00:34:25.100 because there's like
00:34:25.920 three different organizations
00:34:27.120 with that name
00:34:28.000 and they all kind of do,
00:34:30.100 they all sound fake,
00:34:31.420 like they all sound like
00:34:32.680 not real companies.
00:34:37.560 And so,
00:34:38.540 it's very similar.
00:34:39.240 It's like very similar branding,
00:34:40.500 very similar sounding organizations
00:34:43.060 and I don't know
00:34:44.020 if they're somehow facets
00:34:46.060 of the same or whatever.
00:34:48.120 But looking into them,
00:34:49.120 like I don't know
00:34:49.480 which Blue Engine it is,
00:34:50.540 all three of them
00:34:51.400 have heavily female 0.96
00:34:52.680 leadership teams
00:34:53.340 with very few white males.
00:34:55.140 Like for example,
00:34:55.920 I was looking up Blue Engine.
00:34:56.980 The first one I found
00:34:57.780 was this one.
00:34:58.400 I'll put it up on the screen.
00:35:01.700 This is a different Blue Engine.
00:35:03.020 This is not the PR firm.
00:35:03.940 As far as I know,
00:35:04.520 this is as far as I can tell,
00:35:05.200 this is not the PR firm
00:35:06.440 that worked with Cracker Barrel,
00:35:07.980 but I'm just putting it up
00:35:08.860 because I just happened,
00:35:09.560 this is the first place
00:35:10.160 I Googled,
00:35:10.640 I saw this.
00:35:12.340 And it just,
00:35:12.780 it kind of,
00:35:13.780 it's like I said,
00:35:15.080 you just look into
00:35:15.740 any of these woke companies,
00:35:16.960 look at the leadership structure
00:35:18.120 and what do you find?
00:35:19.600 So,
00:35:20.140 this is a group
00:35:21.560 that works with classrooms actually.
00:35:23.780 Unfortunately,
00:35:24.220 they bring equity
00:35:24.960 into the classroom
00:35:25.700 or some such nonsense.
00:35:28.060 And,
00:35:28.460 anyway,
00:35:29.840 what do you know?
00:35:31.920 Look at the,
00:35:32.260 almost entirely women
00:35:33.820 in leadership.
00:35:34.700 16 people,
00:35:35.720 like two white men, 0.51
00:35:37.260 10 or 11 women.
00:35:38.860 And the rest are Hispanic guys. 0.93
00:35:42.200 But that's a different Blue Engine.
00:35:43.680 Our Blue Engine does have
00:35:44.860 a female CEO apparently, 0.96
00:35:46.260 no surprise.
00:35:48.820 So,
00:35:49.300 women are in charge of this thing 1.00
00:35:50.380 at like every level.
00:35:52.580 Woke,
00:35:53.480 you know,
00:35:54.200 corporate,
00:35:54.860 urban women 1.00
00:35:55.540 in charge.
00:35:58.340 You know,
00:35:58.860 it's insane.
00:35:59.980 Actually,
00:36:00.400 it's not insane.
00:36:01.240 It's exactly what you'd expect.
00:36:03.400 And to be clear again,
00:36:04.540 take any other example
00:36:05.780 of some corporation
00:36:07.520 going woke,
00:36:08.420 alienating their customers,
00:36:09.820 destroying whatever made them
00:36:10.920 beloved and iconic.
00:36:13.100 Any other example?
00:36:14.500 And do this same exercise
00:36:15.620 and you'll find
00:36:16.700 the same results.
00:36:18.140 You'll find that
00:36:18.980 straight white men 0.53
00:36:19.760 in leadership 0.98
00:36:20.280 have been wiped out
00:36:21.280 and they've been replaced
00:36:23.060 by women, 0.99
00:36:24.520 gays,
00:36:24.760 and minorities.
00:36:25.940 I mean,
00:36:26.200 that's what's happened.
00:36:28.340 And
00:36:28.660 there's a reason
00:36:30.960 why I could just assume
00:36:32.260 that this was the case
00:36:33.120 with Cracker Barrel
00:36:33.700 without even looking at it.
00:36:34.720 Like,
00:36:34.900 okay,
00:36:35.200 yeah, 0.99
00:36:35.360 women run the whole damn thing 1.00
00:36:36.460 and then you look it up 1.00
00:36:37.300 and it's like,
00:36:38.180 yeah,
00:36:38.360 it's almost exclusively
00:36:39.720 women in charge of this. 1.00
00:36:43.720 These companies
00:36:44.480 can't stay true
00:36:45.660 to their own traditions,
00:36:46.600 their own identities.
00:36:47.300 They can't appeal
00:36:47.860 to their own customer base
00:36:48.900 because the leadership
00:36:49.740 of the companies
00:36:50.380 have been specifically structured
00:36:52.220 to destroy those traditions
00:36:53.520 and alienate the customer base.
00:36:55.740 And,
00:36:55.860 you know,
00:36:57.140 any company.
00:36:58.700 Just take another
00:36:59.580 random example.
00:37:00.900 I was curious about this
00:37:01.860 because the NFL
00:37:02.600 has been in the news
00:37:03.720 again.
00:37:05.600 Well,
00:37:05.680 the NFL season
00:37:06.340 is almost upon us.
00:37:08.060 The NFL's been in the news
00:37:09.320 again for like woke nonsense.
00:37:11.380 I'm an NFL fan,
00:37:12.560 I admit,
00:37:13.020 unashamedly so.
00:37:14.720 But I'm not a fan
00:37:15.740 of corporate NFL.
00:37:17.320 And they've been doing
00:37:18.180 a bunch of woke stuff recently. 0.99
00:37:19.800 They're putting the dumb slogans 0.97
00:37:21.220 like that said, 0.99
00:37:21.920 end racism
00:37:22.680 and,
00:37:23.180 you know,
00:37:24.040 be nice
00:37:24.900 and don't hate people,
00:37:26.100 whatever.
00:37:26.940 They had those slogans
00:37:27.940 on the field
00:37:28.360 for a couple of years.
00:37:28.920 They took them off.
00:37:29.720 Now,
00:37:30.120 apparently,
00:37:30.400 they're putting them back on.
00:37:32.280 And then also,
00:37:33.060 they're introducing
00:37:33.620 male cheerleaders.
00:37:34.740 I'm sure you've seen
00:37:35.300 this on social media.
00:37:37.320 And when I first saw that,
00:37:40.020 I thought,
00:37:40.360 well,
00:37:40.480 haven't we always
00:37:41.000 had male cheerleaders? 0.98
00:37:41.720 That's not new.
00:37:43.020 Well,
00:37:43.220 this is new
00:37:43.820 because it used to be
00:37:44.800 the male cheerleader
00:37:45.640 played the male role.
00:37:47.160 And so those were
00:37:47.800 just the guys
00:37:48.280 that were basically there
00:37:49.060 to throw the women 1.00
00:37:49.700 in the air, 0.88
00:37:50.200 right?
00:37:51.240 Um,
00:37:52.680 but the male cheerleaders
00:37:54.280 that some of these teams
00:37:55.100 are bringing on now
00:37:55.780 are playing the female role.
00:37:57.900 Now,
00:37:58.020 they're not like trans, 1.00
00:37:59.520 so they are males,
00:38:00.680 but,
00:38:01.380 well,
00:38:01.780 trans are male too,
00:38:02.440 but they're not
00:38:03.040 pretending to be women,
00:38:04.020 but they are playing
00:38:05.800 like the feminine role. 1.00
00:38:07.280 So this is,
00:38:07.760 this is a woke
00:38:08.680 cheerleading thing.
00:38:10.620 So I was curious,
00:38:12.020 um,
00:38:12.460 and I looked up
00:38:14.080 the NFL's leadership team.
00:38:16.280 The first thing
00:38:16.960 that popped up
00:38:17.480 was this.
00:38:18.960 Now,
00:38:19.420 this is not the team
00:38:20.620 that,
00:38:21.040 that would decide
00:38:21.980 to put end racism
00:38:22.920 on the field.
00:38:23.520 At least I don't think
00:38:24.180 they would.
00:38:25.220 This is the football
00:38:26.400 operations team.
00:38:27.460 So they have a,
00:38:27.900 they have a more
00:38:28.420 important job
00:38:29.100 in the NFL.
00:38:29.680 They,
00:38:29.920 they are actually
00:38:30.540 in charge of the game
00:38:31.500 itself,
00:38:31.860 in charge of the
00:38:32.560 football operations
00:38:33.560 themselves.
00:38:34.680 And this team,
00:38:35.500 according to the website,
00:38:37.080 works to honor
00:38:37.820 the game's rich traditions
00:38:39.040 and position the sport
00:38:40.260 for long-term success.
00:38:41.580 Now,
00:38:44.620 this is football
00:38:45.320 we're talking about.
00:38:46.080 This is why I think
00:38:46.600 this is an instructive
00:38:47.440 example.
00:38:49.760 No woman 1.00
00:38:50.640 has ever,
00:38:52.460 ever
00:38:54.140 played football
00:38:55.780 in any kind
00:38:57.200 of actually
00:38:58.060 competitive capacity.
00:39:00.340 No woman's 1.00
00:39:01.060 ever done that.
00:39:02.260 There have been
00:39:02.540 a few women
00:39:03.020 who were
00:39:03.600 place kickers
00:39:04.680 and at a,
00:39:05.220 at the college level
00:39:06.380 for a couple of games
00:39:07.600 and then they washed out.
00:39:09.620 There was that one,
00:39:10.180 I forget her name,
00:39:10.720 but they made
00:39:11.560 a big deal out
00:39:12.160 as well.
00:39:12.460 She's a woman,
00:39:12.940 she's playing NCAA. 0.97
00:39:14.700 And then she goes
00:39:15.620 to do a kickoff
00:39:16.620 and she kicks it 1.00
00:39:17.420 like 30 yards.
00:39:18.320 They tried to claim
00:39:18.920 that it was a squid kick
00:39:19.780 even though it was
00:39:20.280 a situation where
00:39:20.980 you would never
00:39:21.360 squid kick it. 0.99
00:39:22.300 And then we never
00:39:22.740 saw that woman
00:39:23.200 ever again.
00:39:23.660 So,
00:39:24.360 in reality,
00:39:25.240 no woman's ever 0.97
00:39:25.740 contributed anything
00:39:26.380 meaningful to the
00:39:27.060 game of football
00:39:27.540 ever.
00:39:29.120 Okay,
00:39:29.280 women contribute
00:39:29.800 meaningfully to
00:39:30.420 society in many ways.
00:39:31.740 They've never
00:39:32.300 contributed to football
00:39:33.300 ever in any
00:39:34.580 meaningful way.
00:39:35.820 Every single person
00:39:36.720 in the country
00:39:37.120 who has significantly
00:39:37.840 contributed to the
00:39:38.460 game of football
00:39:38.920 has been a man,
00:39:40.200 every single one.
00:39:41.560 Now,
00:39:42.380 let's look at the
00:39:44.240 people entrusted to
00:39:45.080 honor the game's
00:39:46.060 rich traditions.
00:39:47.660 And you scroll down
00:39:48.860 and you look at this.
00:39:51.380 Look at all these
00:39:52.120 women. 0.81
00:39:53.580 I mean,
00:39:53.900 this is NFL
00:39:54.900 operations.
00:39:56.340 None of these women 0.99
00:39:57.120 could possibly have
00:39:58.480 any meaningful
00:39:59.580 football experience.
00:40:01.160 There is no way
00:40:02.100 in hell, 0.96
00:40:02.420 there's no possible
00:40:03.200 way that any of
00:40:04.160 them were more
00:40:05.240 qualified than the
00:40:06.660 hundreds of male 0.95
00:40:07.640 candidates that were
00:40:08.360 passed over for
00:40:09.200 their sake.
00:40:10.420 And look at all
00:40:11.860 these women. 1.00
00:40:12.660 This is a team of
00:40:13.280 like 18 or 19
00:40:13.960 people.
00:40:14.320 Almost half of
00:40:15.140 them are women. 1.00
00:40:17.080 How many straight
00:40:17.900 white males?
00:40:18.400 Keep in mind,
00:40:18.840 many of the most
00:40:19.380 iconic figures in
00:40:20.600 the history of
00:40:21.240 football have been
00:40:21.800 straight white males.
00:40:23.560 Players,
00:40:24.100 coaches,
00:40:25.140 owners.
00:40:27.060 How many are on
00:40:27.840 this leadership team?
00:40:28.540 I count three,
00:40:29.640 maybe four.
00:40:31.440 Out of 19?
00:40:32.580 The highest ranking
00:40:35.220 one is eight rungs
00:40:36.200 down the ladder.
00:40:36.900 Vice president of
00:40:37.800 replay training and
00:40:38.960 development.
00:40:41.000 And this is football.
00:40:42.800 So if this is
00:40:43.580 happening to this
00:40:44.180 extent in football,
00:40:45.200 it's so much worse
00:40:46.200 everywhere else. 0.98
00:40:48.360 Straight white men 0.98
00:40:49.020 have just been run
00:40:49.680 out everywhere.
00:40:50.660 And not because of
00:40:52.720 lack of performance.
00:40:54.180 I mean,
00:40:54.780 there is no
00:40:55.340 demographic in the
00:40:56.200 country or in the
00:40:56.960 entire Western world
00:40:57.820 that's achieved more
00:40:58.700 than white men.
00:40:59.440 I'm sorry,
00:40:59.840 it's just a fact.
00:41:01.200 And I've said before,
00:41:02.160 you can test me on
00:41:02.800 this,
00:41:02.980 go down a list of
00:41:03.660 the 500,
00:41:05.000 let's say a thousand
00:41:05.980 greatest innovations,
00:41:07.420 achievements in the
00:41:08.700 history of Western
00:41:09.340 society.
00:41:10.620 And how many of them
00:41:11.720 were not done by
00:41:13.760 white men?
00:41:16.680 Two percent at
00:41:18.300 most.
00:41:20.580 So we've taken this
00:41:21.540 group and we've
00:41:22.680 said,
00:41:23.180 no,
00:41:23.880 we don't,
00:41:24.180 we don't need you
00:41:24.660 anymore.
00:41:25.140 We don't need you
00:41:26.520 running Cracker Barrel.
00:41:28.440 We don't need you
00:41:29.220 running football.
00:41:30.220 We don't,
00:41:30.680 you know,
00:41:30.860 even the places where
00:41:31.840 you would think
00:41:32.400 you'd be like
00:41:33.000 most suited.
00:41:35.580 We don't even
00:41:36.320 need you there.
00:41:38.400 A decision was
00:41:39.400 made to eject
00:41:40.280 this group and
00:41:40.980 ostracize them.
00:41:41.820 And,
00:41:42.340 um,
00:41:43.580 has it made
00:41:45.380 anything better?
00:41:47.780 Has it made
00:41:48.740 anything better?
00:41:50.580 Take any
00:41:51.560 organization that
00:41:52.480 has gone out
00:41:53.840 of its way to,
00:41:54.780 um,
00:41:56.280 to,
00:41:56.900 uh,
00:41:57.200 bring down the
00:41:58.180 number of
00:41:58.760 white males
00:41:59.780 in leadership?
00:42:02.360 Have any
00:42:03.560 of those
00:42:04.120 organizations
00:42:04.720 improved as a
00:42:05.960 result?
00:42:06.900 Any of them?
00:42:08.740 And we all know
00:42:09.640 the answer is no.
00:42:12.820 Um,
00:42:13.540 all right.
00:42:15.820 Well,
00:42:16.400 we go from,
00:42:17.040 uh,
00:42:17.260 woke corporate
00:42:17.780 madness to
00:42:18.440 slightly less
00:42:19.180 woke,
00:42:19.640 uh,
00:42:19.980 or a reversal
00:42:20.840 of something that
00:42:21.580 is something more
00:42:22.360 reasonable.
00:42:22.720 Anyway,
00:42:23.080 this is the best
00:42:23.520 we're going to do
00:42:23.940 for a bright side
00:42:24.640 today.
00:42:25.060 This is Newsweek.
00:42:26.740 Southwest Airlines
00:42:27.380 is ending its
00:42:28.040 longstanding customer
00:42:29.120 of size policy
00:42:30.240 that allowed
00:42:30.680 plus size travelers
00:42:31.640 to secure,
00:42:32.300 uh,
00:42:33.060 extra seating
00:42:33.780 without upfront
00:42:34.580 costs.
00:42:36.140 Beginning,
00:42:36.620 uh,
00:42:38.020 the January,
00:42:38.740 2026,
00:42:39.700 passengers who
00:42:40.480 cannot fit
00:42:41.200 comfortably within
00:42:41.880 one seat will
00:42:43.160 be required to
00:42:43.840 purchase an
00:42:44.320 additional seat
00:42:44.980 in advance with
00:42:45.840 refunds only granted
00:42:46.900 under stricter
00:42:47.580 conditions.
00:42:48.920 The significant
00:42:49.760 change to a
00:42:50.340 popular policy that
00:42:51.140 allowed large
00:42:51.740 travelers to
00:42:52.420 book two seats
00:42:53.220 for the price
00:42:53.700 of one.
00:42:55.200 The shift
00:42:55.580 marks a dramatic
00:42:56.340 reversal for the
00:42:57.040 carrier,
00:42:57.620 which had been
00:42:58.260 praised for
00:42:58.680 inclusivity and
00:42:59.440 for offering one
00:43:00.120 of the most
00:43:00.460 accommodating policies
00:43:01.460 for larger
00:43:02.100 passengers in the
00:43:02.960 U.S.
00:43:03.800 Advocates warn
00:43:04.520 the changes
00:43:04.960 could make air
00:43:05.720 travel prohibitively
00:43:06.560 expensive for
00:43:07.140 many,
00:43:07.760 while long-time
00:43:08.420 loyalists say
00:43:09.040 the policy
00:43:09.580 undermines
00:43:10.160 Southwest's
00:43:10.700 identity as
00:43:11.720 a customer-friendly
00:43:12.560 airline.
00:43:14.980 Okay,
00:43:15.540 so they're,
00:43:15.880 they're still
00:43:16.200 offering refunds
00:43:17.080 to fat people 0.81
00:43:17.680 with a few 0.94
00:43:18.280 extra qualifications
00:43:19.160 it sounds like,
00:43:20.000 but fat flyers
00:43:21.480 are not happy
00:43:22.340 they're especially
00:43:23.240 unhappy over on
00:43:24.400 TikTok.
00:43:25.360 Listen.
00:43:26.360 My body isn't the
00:43:27.460 problem, the system
00:43:28.420 is.
00:43:29.120 When you're forced
00:43:29.640 to buy two seats
00:43:30.420 or squeeze into a
00:43:31.440 space that wasn't
00:43:32.540 designed for your
00:43:33.080 body, it's not just
00:43:34.240 inconvenient, it's
00:43:35.400 dehumanizing.
00:43:36.360 This isn't a luxury,
00:43:37.400 it's a basic human
00:43:38.340 right to travel with
00:43:39.260 dignity.
00:43:39.520 This plus-sized woman 1.00
00:43:41.560 believes it's a basic
00:43:42.480 human right to travel
00:43:43.500 with dignity, and
00:43:44.540 she's standing up for
00:43:45.320 change.
00:43:46.220 With every journey,
00:43:47.680 Jalen challenges the
00:43:48.640 uncomfortable realities
00:43:49.720 that many larger
00:43:50.580 travelers face, from
00:43:52.160 cramped seats to
00:43:53.320 insensitive policies,
00:43:54.620 and she demands a
00:43:55.600 change.
00:43:56.600 You deserve to be
00:43:57.300 comfortable flying, and
00:43:58.560 you deserve to live
00:43:59.260 your best life just
00:44:00.100 like everybody else.
00:44:01.060 Airline seats are too
00:44:02.060 small for many people,
00:44:03.220 regardless of their
00:44:03.840 size or weight.
00:44:04.540 So there's that word
00:44:06.140 again, that cursed
00:44:07.140 word, my least
00:44:08.440 favorite word in the
00:44:09.120 English language,
00:44:09.920 deserve. 0.97
00:44:11.160 Fat people deserve to 1.00
00:44:12.320 be comfortable, she 0.99
00:44:13.160 says.
00:44:15.640 No, they don't.
00:44:16.920 They don't deserve
00:44:17.580 that.
00:44:18.600 You chose to pack
00:44:21.300 hundreds of pounds of
00:44:22.100 additional fat onto
00:44:23.040 your body.
00:44:23.820 You chose to consume
00:44:25.420 thousands of calories
00:44:26.360 above the healthy
00:44:27.020 limit.
00:44:28.520 You chose discomfort.
00:44:30.580 There is no way to be
00:44:31.840 comfortable while eating
00:44:32.900 yourself to death. 0.92
00:44:33.620 It's like, you know,
00:44:34.480 it's like taking your
00:44:35.060 shoes off and standing
00:44:36.740 on a bed of hot coals
00:44:38.220 and then saying you
00:44:39.000 deserve to not burn
00:44:41.280 your feet.
00:44:42.860 Doesn't make any sense.
00:44:44.540 Burning your feet is
00:44:45.240 exactly what you 1.00
00:44:45.840 deserve if you stand on
00:44:47.000 hot coals.
00:44:47.500 That's precisely what
00:44:48.480 you deserve.
00:44:49.360 You can't stand there on
00:44:50.500 the hot coals and say,
00:44:51.240 I don't deserve this.
00:44:52.920 No, I mean, yeah, it's
00:44:54.060 like 100% what you
00:44:55.140 deserve.
00:44:56.740 It's the logical and
00:44:58.120 really only possible
00:44:59.100 outcome of your
00:44:59.860 choices.
00:45:00.600 You deserve the
00:45:01.720 logical outcome of
00:45:03.340 your choices.
00:45:05.700 Really, you deserve
00:45:06.860 whatever the outcome
00:45:08.260 is of whatever you
00:45:09.520 chose to do.
00:45:10.220 You deserve that
00:45:11.100 outcome.
00:45:12.160 That's it's that
00:45:13.120 is because
00:45:13.920 that's the
00:45:16.200 there's no there's
00:45:17.560 no other there's no
00:45:18.320 other possibility.
00:45:20.580 That's the only thing
00:45:21.480 you can deserve
00:45:22.480 actually.
00:45:23.540 is the the outcome
00:45:27.000 of your choices.
00:45:29.860 The logical outcome
00:45:30.980 of being massively
00:45:31.740 overweight is
00:45:32.560 discomfort and bad
00:45:33.620 health and an early
00:45:34.420 death.
00:45:34.800 So, yeah, you 1.00
00:45:35.260 deserve that.
00:45:38.720 Is that a cruel
00:45:39.540 thing to say to say, 0.99
00:45:40.480 oh, fat people 1.00
00:45:41.040 deserve to die. 1.00
00:45:42.060 They deserve to die 1.00
00:45:42.840 early. 1.00
00:45:44.400 Yeah, I mean,
00:45:45.960 they do.
00:45:47.580 That that is the
00:45:48.720 logical consequence
00:45:49.900 of the choices that
00:45:51.620 you've made.
00:45:52.320 somebody jumps off
00:45:56.740 the roof.
00:45:57.140 Do they deserve to
00:45:58.060 hit the ground?
00:45:59.760 If you jump from
00:46:00.700 20 feet up and you
00:46:01.640 and you break both
00:46:02.360 your legs, do you 0.95
00:46:02.960 deserve that? 0.98
00:46:04.340 Would it be cruel for
00:46:05.000 me to say you
00:46:05.480 deserve that?
00:46:06.280 No, it's not cruel.
00:46:07.040 Yeah.
00:46:07.180 Like, yes, you
00:46:07.740 deserve that.
00:46:08.920 I'm not saying I'm
00:46:09.560 happy that you chose
00:46:10.480 to do that.
00:46:11.700 I'm not saying I
00:46:12.500 delight in watching
00:46:13.680 you suffer.
00:46:15.720 But, yeah, you
00:46:17.020 deserve that.
00:46:17.720 And to say
00:46:20.680 otherwise is to
00:46:21.420 say that you
00:46:21.880 deserve for the
00:46:22.740 laws of physics to
00:46:23.800 be suspended for
00:46:24.980 your sake.
00:46:26.180 You deserve to
00:46:27.160 have magic powers,
00:46:28.380 basically, which
00:46:29.000 makes no sense.
00:46:31.700 But I do
00:46:32.440 appreciate the fat
00:46:33.340 acceptance people
00:46:34.160 for one reason,
00:46:36.240 which is that they
00:46:37.060 prove something,
00:46:38.360 something important.
00:46:39.980 And what they
00:46:40.640 prove is that being
00:46:41.560 morbidly obese is a
00:46:43.780 moral failing. 0.84
00:46:44.780 If you're that 0.99
00:46:46.180 fat, it says 0.61
00:46:47.060 something about 0.91
00:46:47.780 your character.
00:46:49.240 Now, it doesn't
00:46:49.840 mean that you're an
00:46:50.360 evil person, doesn't
00:46:51.540 mean that you're
00:46:52.020 morally irredeemable.
00:46:53.880 We all have flaws,
00:46:55.200 okay?
00:46:56.220 But morbid obesity
00:46:57.320 is a moral failing.
00:46:59.240 It's a reflection of
00:47:00.240 a weakness of your
00:47:01.120 character.
00:47:02.020 It just is.
00:47:02.560 Gluttony and sloth,
00:47:03.500 those are two of the
00:47:04.060 seven deadly sins,
00:47:05.420 and that's what
00:47:06.700 causes morbid
00:47:11.120 obesity.
00:47:12.480 But there's also,
00:47:13.180 and this is where
00:47:13.680 the fat acceptance
00:47:14.140 people are so
00:47:14.660 helpful.
00:47:15.920 There's also
00:47:16.660 narcissism and
00:47:18.220 selfishness, and
00:47:19.920 the fat acceptance
00:47:20.620 people really embody
00:47:21.620 that.
00:47:21.900 They put that on
00:47:22.420 display.
00:47:23.140 They demand that
00:47:24.060 everything in society
00:47:25.000 be reorganized,
00:47:26.380 refit, torn down,
00:47:28.860 and rebuilt, literally
00:47:29.860 in many cases, to
00:47:31.400 accommodate their
00:47:33.380 gluttony.
00:47:35.120 And that is like a
00:47:35.980 psychotic level of
00:47:37.280 narcissism.
00:47:39.200 That is a
00:47:39.900 narcissism almost on
00:47:41.680 the level of,
00:47:43.280 I'm a man who
00:47:44.520 wants to pretend to
00:47:45.220 be a woman, so 1.00
00:47:46.040 you've got to
00:47:46.520 change the
00:47:46.900 bathrooms for
00:47:47.540 me.
00:47:47.700 It's almost on
00:47:48.700 that level.
00:47:50.780 Now, not every
00:47:51.660 fat person is
00:47:52.360 narcissistic like 1.00
00:47:53.200 that, but here's
00:47:54.180 the test.
00:47:55.440 Okay, here's the
00:47:55.920 test.
00:47:56.740 There are two
00:47:57.380 kinds of fat 0.51
00:47:57.880 people. 0.82
00:47:59.240 There's the kind
00:48:00.060 that, you know,
00:48:00.480 they go to
00:48:00.880 someone's house,
00:48:01.440 they sit in a
00:48:01.960 chair, the chair
00:48:02.580 breaks, and they
00:48:04.440 feel embarrassed
00:48:05.160 and apologetic
00:48:07.120 because they broke
00:48:07.760 someone's chair.
00:48:08.860 There's that kind.
00:48:09.720 And there's the
00:48:11.140 kind that they go
00:48:11.980 to the friend's
00:48:12.540 house and the
00:48:13.220 chair breaks, and
00:48:13.980 then they blame
00:48:14.660 their friend for
00:48:16.420 not providing
00:48:17.200 sturdier chairs to
00:48:18.420 sit in.
00:48:20.660 The fat acceptance
00:48:21.520 people, they fall
00:48:22.340 into the second
00:48:22.840 category. 0.89
00:48:24.160 And if you're fat
00:48:25.220 and you ever find
00:48:26.140 yourself crossing the
00:48:27.080 threshold from the
00:48:27.900 first category to the
00:48:28.720 second, you need to
00:48:29.380 pull back because then
00:48:31.240 you are becoming an 0.98
00:48:32.060 awful, evil person. 1.00
00:48:34.080 Being fat doesn't 1.00
00:48:34.780 make you that
00:48:35.340 necessarily, but being
00:48:36.700 fat and demanding that
00:48:37.800 everyone else makes 0.83
00:48:38.540 special accommodations
00:48:39.420 for you, that does
00:48:41.120 make you awful and 0.99
00:48:42.380 evil.
00:48:45.120 But you can see how
00:48:46.160 someone would cross
00:48:47.360 that threshold.
00:48:48.720 This is actually kind
00:48:49.620 of my theory.
00:48:50.280 My theory is that the
00:48:52.420 villain origin story
00:48:53.500 for every fat
00:48:54.380 acceptance activist is
00:48:56.000 that they sat on a
00:48:56.800 chair and it broke,
00:48:58.000 and then they had
00:48:59.160 their villain turn
00:48:59.980 because of that.
00:49:01.180 That's kind of like
00:49:01.760 their Joker falling
00:49:02.720 into a vat of acid
00:49:03.680 moment.
00:49:05.040 Because when the
00:49:05.760 chair breaks, that
00:49:07.220 should be a moment
00:49:08.000 of coming to terms
00:49:09.020 with reality, a
00:49:09.920 come to Jesus
00:49:10.400 moment, a moment
00:49:11.680 where you say, oh
00:49:12.340 my gosh, I can't
00:49:13.060 fit in a chair.
00:49:14.760 They designed this
00:49:16.060 chair for human
00:49:17.120 beings, and dozens
00:49:19.000 of humans have sat
00:49:20.760 in this chair without
00:49:21.440 a problem, and I
00:49:22.600 just broke it.
00:49:23.520 I am not able to
00:49:24.480 fit in a chair that
00:49:25.520 was designed for a
00:49:26.620 person.
00:49:28.680 I need one of those
00:49:29.580 chairs that elephants
00:49:30.840 sit on at the circus.
00:49:33.000 That's what I need,
00:49:33.780 and that's awful, and
00:49:34.740 so I need to lose
00:49:35.440 weight.
00:49:37.220 When there's a
00:49:38.900 thing that is made
00:49:39.820 for a person, and
00:49:41.040 it doesn't work for
00:49:42.080 me, because I have
00:49:44.580 made myself larger
00:49:45.880 than any human
00:49:47.280 should ever be,
00:49:49.840 that is, now I
00:49:51.040 got a, now that's
00:49:51.900 really, this is a
00:49:53.340 wake-up call.
00:49:55.480 So you could say
00:49:56.440 that.
00:49:57.740 That takes a
00:49:58.520 certain amount of
00:49:59.200 integrity and moral
00:50:00.120 courage.
00:50:01.620 So the fat
00:50:02.380 acceptance people,
00:50:03.200 they have that
00:50:03.660 moment where the
00:50:06.280 chair breaks.
00:50:07.220 proverbially, or
00:50:08.300 literally, like the
00:50:09.260 proverbial chair
00:50:09.940 breaking moment, and
00:50:11.820 they can't bring
00:50:12.660 themselves to be
00:50:13.220 honest with
00:50:13.560 themselves.
00:50:15.020 So instead, they
00:50:15.800 blame everybody
00:50:16.340 else.
00:50:18.220 I assume you have
00:50:19.040 to have this
00:50:19.460 moment.
00:50:19.860 I mean, you have
00:50:20.240 multiple moments.
00:50:20.840 It'll be like that
00:50:21.280 first moment when
00:50:22.100 you're getting really,
00:50:22.940 really fat, when
00:50:24.620 something happens, and
00:50:25.620 you go, oh my gosh,
00:50:26.600 this is like, yeah, I
00:50:29.060 got big problems here.
00:50:30.500 I can't fit in an
00:50:32.500 airplane.
00:50:32.920 Okay, I can't fit
00:50:35.940 down the hallway.
00:50:36.980 This hotel has
00:50:38.480 slightly narrower
00:50:40.020 hallways than
00:50:41.080 others, and I
00:50:41.620 can't fit down it.
00:50:46.480 That should be your
00:50:47.240 wake-up call, but I
00:50:47.840 think for the fat
00:50:48.320 acceptance people, they
00:50:48.960 have that moment, and
00:50:51.180 instead, they can't
00:50:52.700 face it.
00:50:53.140 They can't accept it,
00:50:53.880 and so they just
00:50:54.460 blame everybody
00:50:55.040 else.
00:50:56.700 It's a moment where
00:50:57.540 they could say, okay,
00:50:58.300 the problem is me, but
00:51:01.720 they can't bring
00:51:03.560 themselves to make
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00:53:11.180 The other day we talked
00:53:12.280 about laws concerning
00:53:13.500 appropriate use of
00:53:14.480 deadly force and how
00:53:15.360 those laws changed very
00:53:16.500 abruptly in the mid-1980s.
00:53:18.240 Up until around 1985,
00:53:20.240 it was perfectly legal for
00:53:21.160 police officers to shoot
00:53:22.300 fleeing suspects in the 0.94
00:53:23.580 back, even when those
00:53:24.500 suspects were unarmed and
00:53:25.680 posed no imminent threat
00:53:26.540 to anybody.
00:53:27.380 This is something that's
00:53:28.260 obviously unthinkable now,
00:53:29.540 but for most of this
00:53:30.300 country's history, believe
00:53:31.040 it or not, it was
00:53:31.720 completely normal.
00:53:33.140 But one day, 1985, six
00:53:34.580 justices on the U.S.
00:53:35.340 Supreme Court decided to
00:53:36.920 change the rules.
00:53:37.920 And from that moment
00:53:38.460 forward, unless there was
00:53:39.400 some clear imminent threat
00:53:41.100 to somebody, police
00:53:42.280 officers could no longer
00:53:43.280 shoot unarmed suspects as
00:53:44.920 they ran away.
00:53:46.700 Now there are a lot of
00:53:47.520 cases like this, as it
00:53:48.860 turns out, and unless you
00:53:51.080 were paying attention in
00:53:51.880 the 1980s, you might not
00:53:53.840 be aware of them.
00:53:54.800 Another example involves
00:53:55.800 the laws concerning flag
00:53:57.240 burning.
00:53:58.560 In recent decades, you've
00:53:59.540 probably been told that
00:54:00.380 flag burning is protected
00:54:01.600 by the First Amendment.
00:54:02.620 It's supposedly an act of
00:54:03.560 political expression, and
00:54:04.960 therefore, you can't be
00:54:06.340 prosecuted for doing it.
00:54:07.660 This is now the accepted
00:54:08.980 consensus view in America
00:54:10.480 to the point that most
00:54:11.320 conservatives would react
00:54:12.800 with abject horror if you
00:54:14.400 told them that you think
00:54:15.400 flag burning should be 0.88
00:54:16.580 outlawed.
00:54:17.080 But this was not always
00:54:20.620 the mainstream position.
00:54:21.860 It wasn't until 1989 in a
00:54:23.820 5-4 decision in the case
00:54:25.140 Texas v. 0.99
00:54:26.440 Johnson that the Supreme
00:54:28.060 Court determined in its
00:54:29.160 infinite wisdom that flag
00:54:30.440 burning is in fact protected
00:54:31.680 political speech.
00:54:32.500 They struck down a Texas law
00:54:33.740 banning flag burning.
00:54:35.500 Prior to that ruling, 48 of
00:54:37.760 the 50 states had laws against
00:54:39.940 desecrating a flag on the
00:54:41.380 books.
00:54:41.620 Yes, 48 of 50 states up
00:54:45.580 until 1989 had outlawed
00:54:47.380 flag burning.
00:54:48.200 Pretty much everyone in the
00:54:49.300 country thought it should be
00:54:50.400 illegal.
00:54:51.740 So when that Supreme Court
00:54:52.920 ruling came down, which again
00:54:54.060 was decided by the narrowest
00:54:55.280 possible Supreme Court
00:54:56.120 majority, the president,
00:54:57.740 George H.W. Bush, declared
00:54:58.840 that flag burning was dead
00:55:00.160 wrong.
00:55:01.280 It was a major issue that
00:55:02.180 galvanized the entire
00:55:03.040 country.
00:55:03.480 Congress immediately passed a
00:55:04.580 federal law banning flag
00:55:05.800 burning.
00:55:06.100 A year later, again, by a
00:55:07.220 5-4 vote, the Supreme Court
00:55:08.580 struck down that federal law
00:55:10.100 also, in other words, in an
00:55:12.340 instant, the Supreme Court
00:55:13.200 overruled the judgment of the
00:55:14.900 vast majority of Americans.
00:55:16.920 And in the years since that
00:55:18.260 ruling among the political
00:55:19.420 right, the Supreme Court's
00:55:20.660 ruling has become gospel.
00:55:23.060 No one has really questioned
00:55:24.120 it for decades, unlike, say,
00:55:25.440 Roe v. Wade.
00:55:26.680 Conservatives haven't tried to
00:55:27.820 get Texas v. Johnson
00:55:29.040 overturned.
00:55:30.400 It's been taken for granted
00:55:31.840 that contrary to what
00:55:32.980 everybody thought just a few
00:55:33.940 decades ago, flag burning is
00:55:35.680 now protected political
00:55:36.740 speech.
00:55:37.880 Well, that is now changing.
00:55:39.060 Donald Trump, as you may have
00:55:39.880 seen, just signed an
00:55:41.180 executive order that
00:55:42.100 effectively outlaws flag
00:55:43.860 burning.
00:55:44.480 Watch.
00:55:45.440 So the president today
00:55:46.620 signing an executive order
00:55:48.240 requiring the Justice
00:55:49.960 Department to investigate and
00:55:51.920 prosecute people for burning
00:55:53.680 the American flag.
00:55:54.860 It's an activity that the U.S.
00:55:56.820 Supreme Court has ruled is
00:55:58.180 legitimate political
00:55:59.580 expression protected by the
00:56:02.160 U.S.
00:56:02.580 Constitution, protected by the
00:56:05.140 First Amendment here.
00:56:06.060 So if you didn't catch this
00:56:07.280 earlier today, this was the
00:56:08.580 moment, President Trump
00:56:10.060 brought this up in the
00:56:11.280 Oval Office.
00:56:12.220 Let's watch this.
00:56:13.420 All over the country,
00:56:14.600 they're burning flags.
00:56:16.320 All over the world, they 1.00
00:56:17.280 burn the American flag.
00:56:19.160 And as you know, through a
00:56:21.300 very sad court, I guess there
00:56:23.560 was a five to four decision.
00:56:25.460 They called it freedom of
00:56:26.600 speech.
00:56:27.060 But there's another reason,
00:56:28.320 which is perhaps much more
00:56:30.040 important.
00:56:30.420 It's called death.
00:56:31.680 Because what happens when you
00:56:33.640 burn a flag is the area
00:56:35.680 goes crazy.
00:56:36.880 But when you burn the
00:56:37.920 American flag, it incites
00:56:39.900 riots at levels that we've
00:56:42.480 never seen before.
00:56:43.440 People go crazy.
00:56:44.680 What the penalty is going to
00:56:46.120 be, if you burn a flag, you
00:56:48.340 get one year in jail, no
00:56:50.980 early exits, no nothing.
00:56:54.040 Specifically, the order states
00:56:55.340 that, quote, in cases where
00:56:56.640 the Department of Justice or
00:56:57.660 another executive department or
00:56:59.100 agency determines that an
00:57:00.260 instance of American flag
00:57:01.560 desecration may violate an
00:57:02.700 applicable state or local law,
00:57:04.320 such as open burning
00:57:05.160 restrictions, disorderly conduct
00:57:06.580 laws, or destruction of
00:57:07.840 property laws, the agency
00:57:09.620 shall refer the matter to
00:57:10.980 the appropriate state or
00:57:11.960 local authority for
00:57:13.080 potential action.
00:57:14.220 And to the maximum extent
00:57:15.040 permitted by the
00:57:15.620 Constitution, the Attorney
00:57:16.380 General shall vigorously
00:57:17.700 prosecute those who violate
00:57:18.980 our laws in ways that
00:57:20.000 involve desecrating the
00:57:21.100 American flag.
00:57:22.880 The order also directs the
00:57:24.300 Secretary of State to,
00:57:25.340 quote, terminate or revoke
00:57:26.360 visas, residence, permits,
00:57:28.060 naturalization proceedings,
00:57:29.020 and other immigration
00:57:29.780 benefits, or seek removal
00:57:31.140 from the U.S.
00:57:31.760 whenever there has been an
00:57:33.080 appropriate determination
00:57:33.720 that foreign nationals have 0.92
00:57:35.060 engaged in American flag
00:57:36.080 desecration activity under
00:57:37.840 circumstances that permit the
00:57:38.880 exercise of such remedies
00:57:40.300 pursuant to federal law.
00:57:43.080 Now, as you could probably
00:57:44.340 tell, the order was written to
00:57:45.900 comply with the Supreme Court's
00:57:47.220 ruling as much as possible.
00:57:48.540 The idea is that in the eyes of
00:57:49.620 the Trump administration,
00:57:50.600 they're not outlawing flag
00:57:51.980 burning per se, so much as
00:57:53.380 disorderly conduct that results
00:57:54.920 from flag burning.
00:57:56.280 This is obviously a novel
00:57:57.660 approach.
00:57:58.860 And if we're being honest, it
00:58:00.000 probably doesn't work in the
00:58:02.580 current framework that has been
00:58:04.240 given to us by the Supreme
00:58:05.540 Court.
00:58:06.960 But the real question is,
00:58:08.560 why should that framework
00:58:10.920 exist?
00:58:12.880 Was that case decided
00:58:14.320 correctly?
00:58:15.860 It's pretty much impossible to
00:58:17.120 get anyone to address that
00:58:18.340 question.
00:58:18.780 Instead, they'll just cite the
00:58:20.080 Supreme Court's ruling in 1989
00:58:21.440 as if that's the end of the
00:58:23.420 discussion.
00:58:24.740 Here's how that Fox segment
00:58:26.540 continued, for example.
00:58:27.660 They brought in an expert from
00:58:29.120 FIRE, the free speech group,
00:58:30.620 and watch.
00:58:32.800 How does a president make this
00:58:34.780 illegal unilaterally via an
00:58:37.760 executive order?
00:58:38.700 Can he do that?
00:58:39.860 Well, he can't do it legally.
00:58:41.720 It's a settled question
00:58:42.660 constitutionally.
00:58:43.520 The Supreme Court has not once,
00:58:45.400 but twice, made it clear that
00:58:47.880 not only does the First Amendment
00:58:49.960 protect this burning of flag as
00:58:53.600 an expression of political
00:58:55.080 protest, but when Congress tried
00:58:57.320 to pass a law, that too was
00:59:01.020 found to be unconstitutional.
00:59:04.160 And so you can't paper over
00:59:05.760 that with an executive order.
00:59:07.600 Quote, it's a settled question
00:59:08.920 the Supreme Court has not once,
00:59:10.620 but twice, made it clear.
00:59:13.000 Well, all right then.
00:59:14.700 I mean, it's not as if the
00:59:15.480 Supreme Court recently overturned
00:59:16.700 Roe v. Wade, which has
00:59:17.560 supposedly been a settled
00:59:18.540 question for generations.
00:59:19.740 It's not as if the Supreme Court
00:59:20.820 recently overturned the so-called
00:59:22.420 Chevron Doctrine, which had given
00:59:24.160 enormous power to unelected
00:59:25.220 bureaucrats.
00:59:25.720 We have a situation right now
00:59:27.780 where the Supreme Court is
00:59:28.560 approaching some of its old
00:59:29.860 decisions, specifically its old
00:59:31.220 decisions that are really bad,
00:59:33.020 and overruling them.
00:59:34.660 So why exactly do we have to
00:59:36.000 treat this 5-4 decision from
00:59:37.480 1989 as if it's the Bible?
00:59:40.100 Isn't it possible the Supreme
00:59:41.160 Court got it wrong, just as
00:59:42.860 they've gotten dozens of other
00:59:44.020 important cases wrong in recent
00:59:45.220 decades?
00:59:46.540 I mean, it blows my mind that we
00:59:47.840 still have people saying,
00:59:48.660 it's a settled question.
00:59:52.560 What are you talking about?
00:59:54.420 No, it's not settled.
00:59:56.220 No, it's never settled, okay?
00:59:57.480 They can be wrong.
00:59:59.780 They can be wrong.
01:00:01.600 Did you know that?
01:00:03.340 And if they're wrong, you can try
01:00:04.760 to overturn it.
01:00:07.220 Do we have to pretend that it's not
01:00:08.720 even possible that they got it
01:00:10.140 wrong?
01:00:11.400 Well, the answer is that we don't.
01:00:13.840 And the more we look at the kinds
01:00:15.180 of people who are burning flags in
01:00:16.580 public, the more obvious it becomes
01:00:18.200 that we probably shouldn't treat that
01:00:21.060 ruling like the Bible.
01:00:23.060 Here's a video somebody uploaded the
01:00:24.340 other day, for example, in defiance of
01:00:26.260 Trump's order.
01:00:27.120 Watch.
01:00:27.940 The Secret Service is currently detaining
01:00:29.800 Jay Carey.
01:00:30.760 He's a 20-year Army veteran, combat
01:00:32.900 veteran, who just burnt a flag in front
01:00:35.200 of the White House in protest of Donald
01:00:37.680 Trump's executive order prohibiting the
01:00:39.620 burning of flags.
01:00:40.280 My name's Jay Carey.
01:00:42.340 I'm a retired disabled combat veteran
01:00:44.140 and served in over 20 years in the United
01:00:45.940 States Army.
01:00:47.060 I thought for every single one of your
01:00:48.720 rights to express yourself and however
01:00:50.760 you feel that you may want to express
01:00:52.720 yourself, there's a First Amendment right
01:00:54.680 to burn the American flag.
01:00:56.720 The Lord Jesus in that house right there
01:00:59.400 signed an executive order today saying
01:01:01.000 that it was illegal to burn the
01:01:02.880 American flag.
01:01:04.000 No president can make a law, period.
01:01:07.040 No Congress will make a law infringing on
01:01:09.660 First Amendment rights.
01:01:11.120 I'm burning this flag as a protest to that 0.96
01:01:15.340 illegal fascist president that sits in 0.99
01:01:17.640 that house. 0.99
01:01:24.040 Do this for every single one of you
01:01:26.180 American citizens.
01:01:27.800 We burn this flag in protest to that
01:01:31.700 president who feels that it's his right to
01:01:35.660 do whatever he wants, make whatever law he
01:01:37.700 wants.
01:01:38.980 That President Trump put forward today.
01:01:45.260 According to that executive order, I
01:01:47.000 should be in prison right now serving one
01:01:49.240 year.
01:01:50.060 Now that video is pretty much the
01:01:51.400 definition of disorderly conduct.
01:01:53.100 Yes, he's communicating a message with
01:01:54.520 his words, but he's also freaking everybody
01:01:56.800 out because he's just started a fire in
01:01:58.800 front of the White House with tons of
01:01:59.880 families and children around.
01:02:01.520 That's not speech.
01:02:02.500 After all, it's a flag burning amounted to
01:02:04.760 speech. And if flag burning really
01:02:06.420 communicated a meaningful thought, then he 0.93
01:02:08.660 wouldn't have to scream like a lunatic 0.98
01:02:09.980 about fascism or whatever. 0.73
01:02:11.920 In addition to lighting the flag, he only
01:02:14.900 feels the need to supplement the flag
01:02:16.740 burning with a rant because he knows that
01:02:18.240 torching the flag isn't saying much at all.
01:02:22.260 And let's be honest, the fact that he's
01:02:24.800 being as obnoxious as possible does not
01:02:26.520 help his case.
01:02:27.580 He's making the Trump administration's
01:02:28.980 argument for them.
01:02:29.760 Nobody wants to deal with random fires
01:02:32.680 popping up like this as random people
01:02:34.560 claiming to be veterans scream at the top
01:02:37.000 of their lungs in public places, and they
01:02:38.860 shouldn't have to put up with it.
01:02:40.460 This is yet another 80-20 issue where
01:02:42.460 Democrats are on the losing side.
01:02:45.620 And at least when it comes to, you know,
01:02:47.580 whether it's like most people, even if
01:02:51.180 they're confused about the settled law and
01:02:52.880 the constitutionality thing, and even if
01:02:54.380 most people have been sort of tricked at
01:02:55.640 this point into thinking that it says it in
01:02:57.660 the constitution somewhere that, you know,
01:03:00.040 that you're allowed to burn flags, there's
01:03:02.540 confusion on that point.
01:03:03.660 But the vast majority of people don't think
01:03:06.940 it's wrong to burn the flag.
01:03:08.100 That's for sure.
01:03:10.640 And yet Democrats, once again, are falling
01:03:12.460 right into the trap that the Trump
01:03:13.920 administration has set.
01:03:14.840 Late last night, a radio host in Seattle
01:03:16.540 named Ari Hoffman reported that, quote,
01:03:19.760 in response to President Trump calling to
01:03:21.380 ban the burning of the American flag, Seattle
01:03:23.560 activists are calling for a massive flag
01:03:25.780 burning event this Sunday at Cal Anderson
01:03:27.740 Park, site of the deadly 2020 autonomous
01:03:30.060 zone, and most recently the No Kings
01:03:32.240 rally.
01:03:33.240 They just can't help themselves.
01:03:34.620 They're going to stop at nothing to ensure
01:03:36.020 that by next week, everybody in the country
01:03:37.480 supports a constitutional amendment banning
01:03:39.760 flag burning.
01:03:41.500 Just imagine the optics of this. 0.72
01:03:43.240 Every degenerate, unkempt, mouth-breathing 0.99
01:03:46.500 communist in Seattle is going to set fire to 1.00
01:03:48.800 the American flag on Sunday.
01:03:50.920 What's that going to do to Democrats' chances
01:03:52.620 in midterms next year?
01:03:53.620 It's almost like the Trump administration 1.00
01:03:56.260 baited these morons once again. 1.00
01:03:58.660 So no matter how the legal battle turns out, 1.00
01:04:00.840 the White House has already won.
01:04:03.180 That said, in the abstract, in the abstract,
01:04:06.960 I can understand the principled free speech
01:04:13.740 absolutist argument here.
01:04:16.620 I'm not totally opposed to the idea that in
01:04:19.080 certain contexts, burning a flag could constitute
01:04:22.160 a political statement and not an act of civil
01:04:24.020 disturbance.
01:04:25.240 And personally, I would reject any attempt to
01:04:28.660 criminalize the burning of the American flag if,
01:04:31.140 if we lived in some kind of radical, libertarian,
01:04:37.800 free speech, absolutist society.
01:04:40.240 If we lived in that society, then I would say,
01:04:43.680 well, yeah, burning the flag is
01:04:44.800 just another one of those things that you're allowed to do
01:04:48.420 even if it's bad.
01:04:49.860 But we don't live in a society like that.
01:04:52.620 We don't.
01:04:54.080 In our country, things like hate speech laws exist.
01:04:58.180 People are routinely prosecuted for desecrating the sacred
01:05:00.520 symbols of gay pride.
01:05:02.220 We've talked about dozens of cases like this on the show.
01:05:04.540 If your truck leaves a tire mark on a pride crosswalk,
01:05:08.460 the police will launch a dragnet and hunt you down.
01:05:12.700 So it's obviously an unequal application of law.
01:05:15.640 And I refuse to live in a country.
01:05:17.760 I refuse to live in a country where the symbols of the LGBT 1.00
01:05:21.940 religion are protected by law, but the symbols of my own nation
01:05:26.920 are not.
01:05:28.400 You cannot have it both ways.
01:05:30.000 So whether I'd support the right to burn the flag in a country
01:05:33.880 with radical, absolutist, free speech rights is one question.
01:05:37.860 But whether I'd support the right to burn the flag in the
01:05:39.900 actual country we live in is another.
01:05:42.360 And in that country, our actual country, the answer is no,
01:05:44.720 I don't support it.
01:05:45.920 Burning the flag should be illegal.
01:05:48.960 Also, it's interesting to note that flag burning is an activity
01:05:53.160 that is pretty much exclusive to the left. 0.91
01:05:55.820 It's people like this wacko who will scream about fascism in front 1.00
01:05:58.620 of the White House who are burning flags. 0.92
01:06:00.480 And yet, plenty of conservatives defend it.
01:06:03.420 And on the other hand, it's impossible to think of something
01:06:05.800 that only conservatives do, but that leftists will defend.
01:06:10.140 So conservatives are going out of their way to defend leftists
01:06:13.020 for engaging in a certain kind of conduct when there are zero
01:06:17.780 examples of leftists doing the same for the right.
01:06:20.580 Now, you could say, well, that makes us principled. 0.97
01:06:24.440 Maybe it does, but you could also say that it makes us suckers 0.85
01:06:29.500 who still haven't figured out what time it is. 0.85
01:06:32.280 These people are our enemies.
01:06:35.740 The ones burning the flag are our enemies.
01:06:38.060 Every single person who burns the flag is an enemy.
01:06:40.840 All of them.
01:06:41.660 They hate you. 1.00
01:06:42.860 They hate your family. 0.99
01:06:44.260 They hate your country. 0.99
01:06:45.480 They want it all destroyed. 0.97
01:06:46.900 Every single one.
01:06:47.840 So am I going to defend these people and stand up for their right
01:06:52.240 to desecrate the flag?
01:06:55.580 No, I'm not.
01:06:58.620 We're in a war.
01:07:00.140 If you haven't figured that out yet, you're hopeless.
01:07:04.760 Okay? 0.54
01:07:05.620 These people want to destroy you and your family.
01:07:07.960 And you're going to sit there and say, well, I don't, well,
01:07:10.420 but if they want to burn the flag, they should have the right
01:07:14.000 to express themselves.
01:07:14.960 No, sorry.
01:07:18.460 We don't live in a country like that anymore.
01:07:20.360 We don't live in a country where that kind of attitude is possible.
01:07:26.880 It's just not.
01:07:29.680 Many conservatives simply don't want to admit that it's not 1989 anymore.
01:07:33.740 We don't have to blindly follow old five to four Supreme Court rulings
01:07:36.980 that never made much sense in the first place.
01:07:40.600 You know, we can actually legally protect our national symbol.
01:07:43.720 We can do that.
01:07:45.800 A huge number of countries all across the world do that.
01:07:48.180 We used to do that.
01:07:51.600 We don't have to accept the idea that deranged activists should be able 0.99
01:07:54.300 to torch objects in public any more than we have to accept the idea
01:07:58.180 that abortion is a constitutional right.
01:08:00.920 The Supreme Court is not the Constitution.
01:08:02.700 The Constitution is the Constitution.
01:08:04.040 And now, more than any other time in recent history,
01:08:06.120 it appears we have a Supreme Court that actually recognizes,
01:08:09.500 most of the time, that very basic and fundamental fact.
01:08:13.720 And that is why anyone who has prejudged the Trump administration's
01:08:17.140 new executive order outlawing flag burning
01:08:18.800 and assumed that it has no chance of success nor any reason to exist
01:08:22.040 is today canceled.
01:08:25.020 That'll do it for the show today.
01:08:25.660 Thanks for watching.
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