The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1649 - Trans Shooter Murders Catholic Kids As The Trans Terrorism Epidemic Continues

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00:01:49.800 When you're bombarded with nonstop lies and propaganda about a particular event, especially a disturbing one that involves the murder of children,

00:01:57.560 it can be useful to take a step back and talk about something that no one else is talking about.

00:02:02.580 If nothing else, it can help you gain some context for what just took place.

00:02:06.020 And to that end, let's briefly discuss what happened last summer in the affluent town of Braintree, Massachusetts.

00:02:13.460 Several girls between the ages of 9 and 17 were watching a film at the AMC movie theater.

00:02:18.800 They were there to see the Ryan Reynolds movie that just came out called If.

00:02:23.040 And that's when, according to police, a man named Jared Revizo ran into the theater and stabbed the girls.

00:02:29.400 And in an interview, one of the girls later told investigators that he, quote, laughed at us, he sounded like the Joker and ran out.

00:02:38.620 But Jared Revizo wasn't done.

00:02:41.200 After that mass stabbing within an hour, he allegedly stabbed two employees at McDonald's before urinating in the drive-thru.

00:02:47.960 A witness compared Jared's appearance to Jack Nicholson's character in The Shining.

00:02:51.880 And eventually he was arrested, at which point authorities determined that he may have been responsible for an unrelated homicide as well.

00:02:57.280 So this guy was, you know, a real asset to the local community, to put it mildly.

00:03:02.140 What's interesting about this case is that, remarkably enough, you can read a dozen news articles about Jared Revizo,

00:03:07.060 and you'll never once see anything mentioned about transgenderism.

00:03:10.720 The Vineyard Gazette, which serves as the official magazine of Martha's Vineyard,

00:03:14.720 wrote a deep dive into the case without once using the word transgender.

00:03:18.960 So to give another example, here's a report from the local CBS news station.

00:03:22.620 The man, suspected in a series of terrifying attacks, made his first appearance in court today.

00:03:29.820 Jared Revizo is accused of a series of stabbings on Saturday at a movie theater in Braintree and at a McDonald's in Plymouth.

00:03:37.760 WBZ's Louisa Moeller spoke with one of the victims.

00:03:40.280 We briefly saw Jared Revizo in court with shoulder-length bleach blonde hair in a jumpsuit.

00:03:48.040 The prosecutor asked for him to be held without bail, but the defense said he needs a competency evaluation,

00:03:52.940 so he will stay here until he's seen by a doctor.

00:03:57.040 You can see him in the video here.

00:03:58.380 The 26-year-old from Chilmark Martha's Vineyard is accused of stabbing six people Saturday.

00:04:03.680 Prosecutors say he pulled up to the Plymouth rest stop, got out of his Porsche, publicly urinated,

00:04:10.220 then stabbed a man at the McDonald's drive-thru.

00:04:13.200 After that, he's accused of going inside and behind the McDonald's counter and stabbing another employee.

00:04:19.360 Later, police say he slashed four girls at an AMC theater in Braintree.

00:04:23.940 And just a short time ago, he was formally named as a suspect in a homicide in Deep River, Connecticut.

00:04:30.520 Police there said he threw a shovel through a window of a home there.

00:04:35.140 And when police arrived, they found the body of a 70-year-old man.

00:04:39.460 Now, there's no curiosity about what motive this man might have to go on a stabbing spree

00:04:44.020 in which he butchered children and killed someone.

00:04:46.660 They don't explain why he looks the way he does.

00:04:48.340 They don't talk about his social media posts where he's dressed like a woman.

00:04:51.360 As far as I can tell, a grand total of one local news outlet, just one,

00:04:54.560 reported that Jared Revizo was, quote,

00:04:56.620 a transgender person who identifies as a woman.

00:04:58.960 Now, multiply this story by about a thousand,

00:05:02.300 and you begin to get a sense for the massive blind spot that exists in this country

00:05:06.240 concerning violence that's committed by the so-called transgender population.

00:05:11.920 There's simply no good way to track it, and no one's even trying.

00:05:15.040 The federal government doesn't maintain any kind of database that lists crimes by trans-identifying individuals.

00:05:20.900 They probably should have that database.

00:05:22.760 We obviously need one, but one doesn't exist at the moment.

00:05:25.800 In the moment, media outlets are terrified of stigmatizing the, quote, unquote, trans community.

00:05:30.280 And so, for all practical purposes, we only ever hear about a violent crime committed by a trans-identifying individual

00:05:36.560 if there's a mass casualty event in which many people are either murdered or seriously injured.

00:05:42.460 And then it becomes much harder to cover up, which means that in those cases,

00:05:47.020 that's the only time we'll actually hear about the transgender connection,

00:05:50.760 even though in those cases also, of course, the media doesn't want to talk about it.

00:05:54.760 And yet, even with that caveat in mind,

00:05:57.020 it's not hard to see that the trans population is quite prolific

00:06:00.600 when it comes to antisocial and violent and often deadly behavior.

00:06:05.280 In 2018, Snokia Mosley, a self-identified transgender individual,

00:06:12.020 killed several people at a Rite Aid distribution facility in Maryland.

00:06:15.820 Authorities said Mosley had, quote,

00:06:17.680 been beset for years by mental illness as well as emotional turmoil

00:06:20.700 related to her struggle with sexual identity.

00:06:24.360 Her struggle.

00:06:25.740 In 2019, a self-identified transgender boy named Alec McKinney

00:06:30.800 masterminded a school shooting that left one student dead and several more injured.

00:06:34.460 McKinney said that she wanted to kill her classmates

00:06:36.800 because they didn't respect her gender identity.

00:06:39.200 In 2022, Anderson Lee Aldrich shot up a nightclub,

00:06:42.260 killing five people and injuring 26.

00:06:44.240 His lawyer said in court that he was non-binary,

00:06:46.560 used they, them pronouns,

00:06:48.440 preferred to be addressed as Mix, M-X, Aldrich.

00:06:52.440 In 2023, 40-year-old Kim Brady Carriker

00:06:55.400 killed five people and injured two children

00:06:57.800 when he opened fire in a Philadelphia neighborhood.

00:06:59.740 Authorities denied that the man was transgender,

00:07:01.460 even though he posted numerous photos online

00:07:03.560 in which he's wearing women's clothing.

00:07:05.260 The same year, as we all remember,

00:07:07.040 a trans-identifying mass shooter

00:07:08.600 killed three nine-year-old children and three adults

00:07:10.680 at Covenant Christian School in Tennessee.

00:07:13.120 And then in 2024, a man named Colin Bailey,

00:07:15.760 who pretends to be a woman and who uses the name Mia,

00:07:19.360 admitted to killing his parents

00:07:21.880 and showed no remorse for that whatsoever.

00:07:24.480 All of these stories made the news to varying degrees

00:07:27.680 because they were too high profile,

00:07:30.600 too dramatic, too horrifying to ignore.

00:07:33.440 The media can successfully bury a story

00:07:35.880 about a few girls getting stabbed in a movie theater,

00:07:38.240 but it's harder to explain away a large number of fatalities.

00:07:41.760 And this is why when you're looking at crime rates,

00:07:43.780 generally, as we've talked about before,

00:07:45.760 it's best to look at homicides

00:07:47.120 rather than, say, car thefts or assaults

00:07:49.520 because they can monkey with the stats

00:07:52.840 when it comes to car theft, assault, that sort of thing,

00:07:55.020 and pretend that those numbers are going down

00:07:56.720 when they really aren't,

00:07:58.100 it's more difficult for authorities to hide bodies

00:08:00.620 than to hide evidence of other crimes.

00:08:04.360 And that's why this graph,

00:08:05.540 which was posted yesterday

00:08:06.600 by one of the big data accounts on X,

00:08:09.160 is worth taking a look at.

00:08:10.460 As you can see, it shows mass shooting rates

00:08:13.200 by demographic from 2015 to 2025.

00:08:16.160 It looks at public incidents

00:08:17.560 with four or more fatalities.

00:08:19.660 And it accounts for the percentage of the population

00:08:22.620 that belongs to each demographic group.

00:08:24.200 So it's a per capita reading, essentially.

00:08:27.660 Now, at the very top of that list, as you'll see,

00:08:30.960 you find men who identify as transgender women

00:08:34.140 or non-binary.

00:08:35.100 They're followed by women

00:08:36.060 who identify as men or non-binary.

00:08:37.880 After that, there's Asian men, includes Arabs,

00:08:40.600 black men, white men, Asian women,

00:08:43.000 and Hispanic men rounding out the list.

00:08:45.060 In other words, when you look at per capita statistics,

00:08:48.360 transgender identifying individuals

00:08:49.780 are the single most likely demographic group

00:08:52.920 in the entire country

00:08:53.880 to commit deadly mass shootings

00:08:55.700 that cause four or more fatalities.

00:08:58.140 Now, you can quibble with the numbers if you want,

00:09:00.060 but this is a finding that,

00:09:02.040 if we're being honest,

00:09:03.720 everyone can intuitively understand.

00:09:05.800 It's not surprising.

00:09:07.600 After all, it's not exactly a great shock

00:09:09.360 that men with delusions

00:09:11.740 who are given unnatural cross-sex hormones

00:09:14.800 and other life-altering drugs

00:09:17.060 and mind-altering drugs

00:09:18.220 instead of treatment

00:09:19.480 for their delusional mindset

00:09:21.800 will be prone to violence.

00:09:25.020 Affirmation does not help at all.

00:09:27.720 As the ACLU's own attorney

00:09:29.500 admitted to the Supreme Court this year,

00:09:30.940 there's no evidence that coddling these people

00:09:32.860 somehow reduces suicide rates.

00:09:34.360 On the other hand,

00:09:34.940 there's a lot of evidence

00:09:35.900 that when you affirm

00:09:36.880 somebody's deranged fantasies,

00:09:38.480 you empower psychopaths

00:09:40.320 to act on those same fantasies.

00:09:42.020 And more to the point,

00:09:43.160 when you tell someone

00:09:44.200 that their fantasy is true

00:09:45.980 and that it's an inextricable part

00:09:48.320 of their identity

00:09:49.040 and that anyone who denies their fantasy

00:09:52.340 is therefore a threat to them,

00:09:54.020 is guilty of even a transgenocide,

00:09:56.760 and so on,

00:09:57.460 you are giving them all the excuse they need

00:10:00.240 to go and commit violence

00:10:01.420 against the people

00:10:02.060 who pose this quote-unquote threat.

00:10:04.840 That's exactly what took place yesterday

00:10:07.120 at Annunciation Catholic School.

00:10:10.100 The shooter who killed two children

00:10:12.600 at ages 8 and 10

00:10:13.420 and injured more than a dozen others

00:10:15.520 was not tormented by his parents

00:10:18.800 because of his alleged gender identity.

00:10:20.920 There was no lack of affirmation going on.

00:10:24.260 In fact, he wasn't told the truth,

00:10:26.040 which is that he's a man.

00:10:27.280 Instead, he was affirmed

00:10:28.380 every step of the way.

00:10:29.640 His family members

00:10:30.400 pretended that he was a woman.

00:10:31.580 His mother signed off

00:10:32.500 on his name change in court

00:10:34.000 when he was a minor

00:10:34.660 for the explicit purpose

00:10:36.240 of helping him identify as a woman.

00:10:38.060 That took place in 2019.

00:10:40.620 According to the court documents,

00:10:42.020 the shooter, quote,

00:10:43.080 identifies as a female

00:10:44.120 and wants her name

00:10:45.280 to reflect that identification.

00:10:48.120 And on top of that,

00:10:48.940 his uncle was reportedly a lawmaker

00:10:50.560 who claimed the LGBTQ community

00:10:52.820 was under attack

00:10:54.580 and that people's identities

00:10:56.240 are no one's business.

00:10:58.700 His uncle also maintained

00:10:59.660 that Lincoln would have supported

00:11:01.020 transgender children

00:11:02.160 in an op-ed that was published

00:11:03.480 a couple of years ago.

00:11:04.840 But in the end,

00:11:06.960 none of this affirmation

00:11:07.980 solved the shooter's

00:11:09.520 underlying problem,

00:11:10.340 which is that

00:11:10.920 he was a deeply evil

00:11:12.480 and severely mentally

00:11:13.700 disturbed individual,

00:11:14.780 a delusional and hateful person.

00:11:17.020 He posted a lengthy video online

00:11:19.120 which made it very clear

00:11:20.080 that he despises Christianity.

00:11:22.220 He was using an image

00:11:22.960 of Jesus Christ

00:11:23.660 for target practice.

00:11:24.620 He wrote things like

00:11:25.320 Where's Your God

00:11:26.320 on his rifle magazines.

00:11:27.920 He also suggested

00:11:28.600 that he had lung cancer,

00:11:29.980 which was evidently

00:11:31.100 yet another delusion.

00:11:32.100 As we've seen since COVID,

00:11:33.060 there's a definite relationship

00:11:35.020 between being a left-wing radical

00:11:36.540 and being a hypochondriac.

00:11:38.320 So all of these factors

00:11:39.920 came together in this case.

00:11:42.740 But instead of throwing this guy

00:11:44.420 in a psychiatric ward

00:11:45.600 where he obviously belonged,

00:11:48.040 Democrats, leftists,

00:11:49.420 told him that he was

00:11:50.220 on the right track.

00:11:51.140 And more than that,

00:11:52.220 they also encouraged him

00:11:53.300 and people like him

00:11:54.100 to commit acts of violence.

00:11:57.320 Here, for example,

00:11:58.260 is a recent photo

00:11:58.960 of Peggy Flanagan,

00:12:00.080 the lieutenant governor

00:12:00.920 of the state of Minnesota.

00:12:02.000 And you can see it there

00:12:03.420 on the screen.

00:12:04.080 She's wearing a shirt

00:12:04.820 that says,

00:12:05.480 Protect Trans Kids.

00:12:06.560 And the shirt features

00:12:07.300 a giant knife

00:12:08.420 pointing sideways.

00:12:11.200 Now, there's only one way

00:12:12.340 to interpret that.

00:12:13.720 This is a threat of violence

00:12:15.200 from a public official

00:12:16.120 saying that

00:12:17.060 you will suffer physical harm

00:12:19.620 if, like the Catholic Church,

00:12:21.800 you reject the idea

00:12:22.860 that children can change

00:12:24.040 their gender at will.

00:12:25.820 It's explicit, direct threat.

00:12:27.500 And yesterday,

00:12:30.460 a trans foot soldier

00:12:31.700 made good on that threat.

00:12:34.560 After the attack

00:12:35.380 on the church yesterday,

00:12:36.400 Peggy Flanagan

00:12:37.040 didn't apologize

00:12:37.940 for any of this rhetoric.

00:12:39.600 Of course,

00:12:40.000 she didn't say

00:12:41.240 that she regretted

00:12:41.900 the fact that she

00:12:42.640 threatened Catholics

00:12:43.440 with violence

00:12:44.080 after children were slaughtered

00:12:46.140 as they prayed

00:12:47.400 in a Catholic church.

00:12:48.660 Instead, she put out

00:12:49.340 a generic message

00:12:50.360 thanking first responders.

00:12:52.700 And again,

00:12:53.040 she knew exactly

00:12:53.720 what she was doing.

00:12:54.380 The whole party does.

00:12:55.080 CNN had an expert

00:12:56.680 on the air

00:12:57.320 to explain all the details

00:12:58.840 about the shooter's background

00:13:00.420 and see if you can spot

00:13:02.340 what detail he left out.

00:13:05.020 Watch.

00:13:05.580 CNN's John Miller

00:13:06.580 has some brand new

00:13:07.880 reporting on this.

00:13:08.880 John, tell us

00:13:09.600 what you're learning.

00:13:11.620 Well, we've been looking

00:13:12.620 into the shooter

00:13:13.780 who law enforcement sources

00:13:15.600 have identified

00:13:16.420 as Robin Westman.

00:13:18.920 And police have been examining

00:13:21.460 some of the postings online

00:13:23.240 by an individual

00:13:24.080 of the same name.

00:13:25.080 presumed to be

00:13:25.700 the same individual

00:13:26.640 which shows numerous weapons,

00:13:29.580 magazines,

00:13:30.440 things in preparation

00:13:31.360 for the shooting

00:13:32.220 along with a book

00:13:34.700 and different notes.

00:13:36.080 But one of them

00:13:37.280 is particularly telling

00:13:38.700 in that it says,

00:13:40.400 I have waited for this

00:13:41.360 for so long.

00:13:42.300 I am not well.

00:13:43.500 I am not right.

00:13:44.820 I am a sad person

00:13:46.040 haunted by these thoughts

00:13:47.980 that do not go away.

00:13:50.620 I know this is wrong.

00:13:52.040 And he goes on

00:13:52.740 to describe

00:13:53.320 that the action

00:13:54.220 he is going to take

00:13:55.500 against this world

00:13:56.460 before taking his own life,

00:13:58.700 which is not uncommon

00:14:00.960 in these incidents,

00:14:02.360 these active shooter scenarios,

00:14:03.740 where you see someone

00:14:05.580 who reports to be

00:14:07.360 in pain,

00:14:09.400 in trauma,

00:14:10.080 and that they write

00:14:11.080 all of this out

00:14:11.920 and leave it behind

00:14:12.880 with the foreknowledge

00:14:14.240 that what they are about

00:14:15.180 to do is going to end

00:14:16.520 their own life as well

00:14:18.380 while taking these strangers,

00:14:21.460 these innocent people,

00:14:23.060 with them in the process.

00:14:25.180 But investigators are going back

00:14:28.140 through this material

00:14:29.160 and a lot of other material

00:14:30.940 trying to determine motives.

00:14:32.340 So what do we know?

00:14:33.780 I mean, what we know,

00:14:34.820 if this in fact is from the shooter,

00:14:36.280 that his motive was

00:14:37.320 he was in pain.

00:14:38.220 But what we don't see here,

00:14:39.860 and there's more to go through,

00:14:41.920 is what was the shooter,

00:14:45.180 Robin Westman,

00:14:46.460 in pain about specifically?

00:14:48.860 That is CNN's

00:14:50.000 chief law enforcement

00:14:51.140 and intelligence analyst.

00:14:53.500 And he really did

00:14:54.460 a deep dive there, didn't he?

00:14:56.760 He managed to tell us

00:14:58.040 everything about the shooter,

00:14:59.060 except the one thing

00:14:59.980 that would explain

00:15:01.020 his mental state

00:15:01.780 and his motive.

00:15:03.560 Even though everybody online

00:15:04.860 had already figured it out,

00:15:05.820 this chief intelligence analyst

00:15:07.300 was flummoxed.

00:15:09.860 He couldn't figure it out.

00:15:11.980 It's all incredibly fake

00:15:13.780 and phony.

00:15:14.380 You wonder how they say

00:15:15.240 any of this with a straight face.

00:15:16.620 This is the kind of

00:15:17.480 unwatchable coverage

00:15:18.460 that CNN produced all day.

00:15:19.600 Another CNN expert

00:15:20.700 actually went out of her way

00:15:22.200 to dispute the idea

00:15:23.260 that religion

00:15:23.920 had anything to do

00:15:26.180 with the attack,

00:15:27.040 that there was any motivation,

00:15:28.880 that the killer

00:15:30.160 was motivated at all

00:15:31.200 by any animus

00:15:32.280 towards the Catholic faith.

00:15:34.760 Watch.

00:15:36.060 So I think that the question

00:15:37.280 of what the charges are

00:15:39.020 is something

00:15:40.020 that we want to talk about,

00:15:42.140 but I think that

00:15:42.920 the facts have to lead to that.

00:15:45.180 And it's not

00:15:45.840 the essence of taking,

00:15:49.000 in this case,

00:15:50.020 a kid who probably

00:15:51.100 sat in the pew

00:15:51.820 at that church

00:15:52.820 when he went to school there

00:15:54.120 and saying,

00:15:55.780 oh, for some reason

00:15:56.420 he has some particular

00:15:57.980 bent against Catholics

00:15:59.460 or against Christians.

00:16:01.420 There would have to be

00:16:02.580 some push-together,

00:16:05.460 gathering-together effects

00:16:06.780 that would really

00:16:07.320 kind of indicate

00:16:08.040 that this entire intent

00:16:09.880 of this crime

00:16:10.700 was to injure

00:16:12.680 this particular people

00:16:14.520 of this particular religion,

00:16:15.980 just much like we see

00:16:17.080 the shooter

00:16:18.020 in the top shooting

00:16:19.080 in Buffalo

00:16:19.480 who went there,

00:16:20.680 a white man

00:16:21.440 who went there

00:16:22.040 to shoot blacks

00:16:22.880 and made it very clear

00:16:24.060 that that's why

00:16:24.560 he was going there.

00:16:26.060 Now, there was also

00:16:26.840 a police official

00:16:27.520 who said something

00:16:28.200 similar to this.

00:16:29.560 Yeah, you know,

00:16:30.120 who's to say

00:16:30.640 whether the shooter

00:16:31.320 was motivated

00:16:31.920 by anti-Catholic

00:16:33.060 or anti-Christian animus?

00:16:34.840 It's not like he just

00:16:35.380 shot up a Catholic church.

00:16:36.460 It's not like he mocked

00:16:37.300 God in his manifesto.

00:16:38.500 It's not like trans ideology

00:16:39.520 is itself an attack

00:16:40.960 on Christianity.

00:16:42.120 It's not like he drew

00:16:42.820 a sketch of the church

00:16:44.000 on video

00:16:44.560 and then stabbed it

00:16:45.960 with a knife.

00:16:47.820 According to CNN,

00:16:48.740 the target was totally random.

00:16:50.400 I mean, he might as well

00:16:50.920 have shot up

00:16:51.280 the local Applebee's

00:16:52.660 or something.

00:16:54.300 I won't even play

00:16:55.160 MSNBC's coverage

00:16:56.080 because it's too unbearable,

00:16:57.480 even by the low standards

00:16:58.600 set by outlets like CNN.

00:17:00.620 They demanded

00:17:01.360 Australia-style

00:17:02.200 gun confiscation,

00:17:03.220 of course.

00:17:03.560 That's their preferred

00:17:04.720 result here.

00:17:05.840 Meanwhile,

00:17:06.360 ABC News reported

00:17:07.220 that Donald Trump's name

00:17:08.480 was written

00:17:09.700 on one of the gunmen's

00:17:10.740 firearms

00:17:11.180 without providing

00:17:11.960 any context.

00:17:13.420 Watch.

00:17:14.240 23-year-old Robin Westman

00:17:16.000 was able to leave

00:17:17.760 what police called

00:17:19.280 a video manifesto

00:17:21.300 that they're now

00:17:21.920 going through

00:17:22.460 to try and establish motive.

00:17:24.320 We've also been

00:17:25.420 going through it

00:17:26.420 and can tell you

00:17:27.500 there are crude

00:17:28.240 diagrams of the church.

00:17:30.740 There are also

00:17:31.560 photos of the weapons

00:17:33.100 and they include

00:17:34.180 all sorts of writings,

00:17:36.100 the names of past

00:17:37.300 mass shooters,

00:17:38.480 criticism of Israel,

00:17:39.820 the name of

00:17:40.320 President Trump

00:17:41.420 written on the guns.

00:17:43.260 There are also

00:17:43.920 racial slurs,

00:17:45.540 nihilistic statements,

00:17:46.920 all painting

00:17:47.740 the picture

00:17:48.640 of a disturbed

00:17:49.940 individual

00:17:50.580 who carried out

00:17:51.560 this mass shooting

00:17:52.400 on the first week

00:17:53.700 of school

00:17:54.120 at the Annunciation

00:17:54.800 Church in Minneapolis.

00:17:55.780 Now the only reason

00:17:57.180 to say something

00:17:57.820 like that

00:17:58.420 without clarifying

00:17:59.440 that the shooter

00:18:00.200 said F Donald Trump

00:18:01.480 is to imply

00:18:03.080 obviously that the shooter

00:18:04.420 might have supported

00:18:05.400 Trump.

00:18:06.940 It's every bit

00:18:07.780 as malicious

00:18:08.280 and unconscionable

00:18:09.180 as it looks.

00:18:10.720 Even when a

00:18:11.520 transidentifying lunatic

00:18:12.620 commits one of the most

00:18:13.640 heinous acts imaginable,

00:18:15.820 you know,

00:18:16.000 they go right to work

00:18:16.660 trying to find

00:18:17.240 clever new ways

00:18:18.120 to lie about it.

00:18:20.200 The effeminate mayor

00:18:21.760 of Minneapolis

00:18:22.340 for his part

00:18:23.060 set the standard here.

00:18:24.160 He held a press conference

00:18:25.120 in which he declared

00:18:26.000 that trans people

00:18:27.060 are really

00:18:28.760 the real victims

00:18:29.800 of the mass shooting.

00:18:31.180 It was reminiscent

00:18:31.720 of the Biden administration's

00:18:32.960 press conference

00:18:33.460 after the Covenant massacre

00:18:34.640 where they said

00:18:36.060 that they would

00:18:36.820 defend transgenderism.

00:18:39.000 You know,

00:18:39.120 that was their main priority.

00:18:40.580 Even though Christian children

00:18:41.960 had just been executed

00:18:42.780 by a trans person.

00:18:44.140 Watch.

00:18:45.220 I have heard

00:18:46.200 about a whole lot

00:18:47.160 of hate

00:18:47.460 that's being directed

00:18:48.420 at our trans community.

00:18:53.260 Anybody,

00:18:54.160 who was using

00:18:55.440 this as an

00:18:56.380 using this

00:18:57.280 as an opportunity

00:18:58.940 to villainize

00:19:00.220 our trans community

00:19:01.120 or any other

00:19:02.300 community out there

00:19:03.620 has lost their sense

00:19:05.160 of common humanity.

00:19:07.920 We should not

00:19:08.900 be operating

00:19:09.780 out of a place

00:19:10.780 of hate

00:19:11.640 for anyone.

00:19:13.120 We should be

00:19:13.780 operating from

00:19:14.620 a place of love

00:19:15.760 for our kids.

00:19:17.660 Well,

00:19:18.140 this man is truly

00:19:19.180 just a pathetic,

00:19:21.140 shameless

00:19:21.420 piece of garbage.

00:19:22.740 I mean,

00:19:23.200 at this point,

00:19:23.740 you're tempted

00:19:24.560 to root

00:19:25.220 for the inbred

00:19:26.660 Somali

00:19:27.060 who's running

00:19:27.680 for Jacob Frey's

00:19:28.540 seat.

00:19:29.620 At least his election

00:19:30.700 will accelerate

00:19:31.300 the downfall

00:19:31.880 of Minneapolis

00:19:32.380 and then sane

00:19:33.080 people can move in

00:19:34.060 and take control

00:19:34.740 and rebuild

00:19:35.860 whatever's left.

00:19:37.280 The level of

00:19:38.160 shamelessness

00:19:38.800 that's required

00:19:39.400 to go out there

00:19:40.160 as Catholics

00:19:40.860 lay dead and dying

00:19:41.940 to defend

00:19:42.640 the ideology

00:19:43.280 of the shooter,

00:19:45.380 you know,

00:19:45.560 it's actually hard

00:19:46.140 to comprehend,

00:19:46.960 but for Jacob Frey,

00:19:47.880 it was effortless.

00:19:49.080 It came naturally.

00:19:49.680 Now,

00:19:52.420 what Frey

00:19:52.900 should have said

00:19:54.160 if he had any

00:19:54.860 interest in

00:19:55.260 protecting children

00:19:55.940 and doing his job,

00:19:57.100 what everyone

00:19:57.560 should be saying

00:19:58.280 and acknowledging

00:19:58.940 at this point

00:20:00.540 is that

00:20:02.900 every single

00:20:04.120 trans person

00:20:05.040 is by definition

00:20:06.900 mentally unwell.

00:20:09.900 And this was

00:20:10.860 recognized by

00:20:11.920 everyone

00:20:12.340 and by the

00:20:12.940 entire

00:20:13.280 psychiatric

00:20:13.760 community

00:20:15.000 up until

00:20:17.140 very,

00:20:17.680 very recently.

00:20:19.680 because any

00:20:21.620 man who

00:20:22.280 thinks he's

00:20:22.580 a woman

00:20:22.860 or woman

00:20:23.360 who thinks

00:20:23.760 she's a man

00:20:24.480 is,

00:20:26.140 again,

00:20:26.740 by definition

00:20:27.320 delusional

00:20:27.840 to a potentially

00:20:28.660 dangerous degree.

00:20:30.500 Without exception,

00:20:31.980 these are

00:20:32.420 mentally sick

00:20:33.120 people

00:20:33.460 and doctors

00:20:35.640 should be

00:20:36.080 legally barred

00:20:37.120 from affirming

00:20:38.360 their mental

00:20:38.780 illness

00:20:39.140 in any way,

00:20:41.160 adult

00:20:41.540 or child.

00:20:44.360 This is,

00:20:45.060 yes,

00:20:45.500 protecting children

00:20:46.240 from so-called

00:20:47.220 gender affirmation

00:20:48.500 procedures

00:20:49.880 and drugs

00:20:50.540 is very

00:20:51.860 important.

00:20:53.420 But as I've

00:20:54.280 said this

00:20:54.560 entire time,

00:20:55.400 it's not

00:20:55.800 just children.

00:20:57.800 Doctors should

00:20:58.380 be,

00:20:58.660 doctors,

00:20:59.260 psychiatrists,

00:21:00.220 therapists

00:21:00.520 should be

00:21:01.420 legally barred

00:21:02.500 from affirming

00:21:03.380 the delusions

00:21:04.040 of anyone,

00:21:05.440 whether they're

00:21:05.800 an adult

00:21:06.100 or child.

00:21:06.380 It doesn't

00:21:06.620 suddenly become

00:21:07.200 okay because

00:21:08.180 the person

00:21:08.580 is an adult.

00:21:09.120 and I think

00:21:12.420 everyone knows

00:21:13.160 this.

00:21:15.100 It's always

00:21:15.800 obvious.

00:21:17.900 You know,

00:21:18.120 nobody ever,

00:21:19.080 aside from the

00:21:20.080 people who

00:21:20.420 actually suffer

00:21:20.960 from the

00:21:21.280 mental illness,

00:21:22.000 no one else

00:21:22.500 ever actually

00:21:23.260 believed

00:21:23.800 trans ideology.

00:21:25.960 No one

00:21:26.160 actually believed

00:21:26.740 this.

00:21:27.100 No one ever

00:21:27.620 really believed

00:21:28.500 that it's a good

00:21:29.080 idea to take

00:21:30.380 someone who's

00:21:31.080 confused about

00:21:31.780 their identity

00:21:32.340 and give them

00:21:33.160 castration drugs,

00:21:34.680 tell them that

00:21:35.220 their delusions

00:21:37.940 are true.

00:21:38.360 No one

00:21:38.760 really believed

00:21:39.240 that.

00:21:40.300 No one

00:21:40.780 ever believed

00:21:41.220 that.

00:21:43.320 And now

00:21:43.640 innocent children

00:21:44.260 are dying

00:21:44.720 because so

00:21:45.440 many people

00:21:45.840 were too

00:21:46.620 cowardly to

00:21:47.460 admit it.

00:21:50.740 All across

00:21:51.500 the country,

00:21:51.960 it's now

00:21:52.260 abundantly clear

00:21:53.040 that trans

00:21:54.100 terrorism

00:21:54.620 is an epidemic.

00:21:57.540 Many of us

00:21:58.360 warned that it

00:21:59.160 would come to

00:21:59.520 this.

00:22:01.700 None of this

00:22:02.480 was hard to

00:22:03.680 foresee.

00:22:04.120 That's what

00:22:04.320 makes it all

00:22:04.900 the more

00:22:05.200 infuriating.

00:22:07.060 When you

00:22:07.720 affirm the

00:22:08.820 perverse

00:22:09.200 fantasies of

00:22:10.140 disturbed

00:22:10.500 people and

00:22:11.980 you do it

00:22:12.460 systematically

00:22:13.220 at scale,

00:22:15.440 you are

00:22:16.660 creating

00:22:17.380 precisely this

00:22:18.500 kind of

00:22:19.020 catastrophe.

00:22:20.020 It is

00:22:20.380 inevitable.

00:22:22.640 And now

00:22:23.060 these catastrophes

00:22:24.080 are happening

00:22:24.500 so often that

00:22:25.180 even for the

00:22:25.580 mainstream press

00:22:26.240 they're impossible

00:22:27.140 to ignore.

00:22:29.560 But there is

00:22:30.320 a solution.

00:22:32.360 It's not that

00:22:32.960 far away actually.

00:22:33.780 We've almost

00:22:34.100 achieved it.

00:22:35.140 As the last

00:22:35.640 election demonstrated

00:22:36.420 very clearly,

00:22:36.980 the trans

00:22:37.500 agenda is

00:22:38.400 losing.

00:22:39.000 They're losing

00:22:39.460 on every

00:22:40.180 playing field,

00:22:41.140 in every

00:22:41.880 area of

00:22:42.660 American life.

00:22:43.720 We have

00:22:44.360 defeated them

00:22:45.080 politically.

00:22:45.840 We have

00:22:46.260 defeated them

00:22:46.920 culturally.

00:22:48.080 It's been

00:22:48.820 one loss

00:22:49.600 after another

00:22:50.400 after another.

00:22:51.180 It's now

00:22:51.500 widely understood

00:22:52.220 that we don't

00:22:53.560 need gun control.

00:22:54.720 We need

00:22:55.520 transgender

00:22:55.980 control.

00:22:57.760 We need to

00:22:58.740 finally eliminate

00:22:59.800 this demonic

00:23:01.520 and anti-Christian

00:23:02.420 ideology from

00:23:03.360 the planet

00:23:03.840 for good.

00:23:06.380 But understand

00:23:07.180 this.

00:23:08.200 Because of our

00:23:09.020 success,

00:23:09.640 now is precisely

00:23:10.640 the moment

00:23:11.280 when trans

00:23:12.460 militants are

00:23:13.260 the most

00:23:13.880 dangerous.

00:23:14.720 Because they've

00:23:15.420 lost,

00:23:16.200 the game is

00:23:16.760 over,

00:23:17.620 they know it,

00:23:19.180 and now they're

00:23:19.920 more desperate

00:23:20.440 than ever,

00:23:21.180 more full of

00:23:21.820 hatred and anger

00:23:22.460 than ever.

00:23:24.000 They're going

00:23:24.640 down, but they'll

00:23:25.280 take as many

00:23:25.780 sane, normal

00:23:26.420 people with

00:23:26.960 them as they

00:23:27.580 can.

00:23:29.480 As horrifying

00:23:30.280 as yesterday's

00:23:30.960 attack was,

00:23:31.560 it's almost

00:23:31.980 certainly going

00:23:32.500 to get worse

00:23:33.240 from here.

00:23:34.780 I hate to

00:23:35.420 say it, but

00:23:35.820 it's true.

00:23:37.620 So be on

00:23:38.340 your guard.

00:23:38.780 Take every

00:23:39.100 possible step

00:23:39.720 to protect

00:23:40.120 yourself and

00:23:40.620 your family,

00:23:41.060 particularly if

00:23:41.600 you live in

00:23:42.040 a state like

00:23:42.480 Minnesota.

00:23:43.800 Your leaders

00:23:44.500 will not

00:23:44.980 protect you.

00:23:46.600 If a

00:23:47.240 trans militant

00:23:48.180 murders you

00:23:48.800 or your

00:23:49.080 child in a

00:23:49.580 pew, they

00:23:50.040 will dance

00:23:50.540 on your

00:23:50.840 graves and

00:23:51.440 blame you

00:23:52.000 for your

00:23:52.980 own death.

00:23:54.220 Like the

00:23:54.760 Bolsheviks

00:23:55.220 before them,

00:23:56.040 they will

00:23:56.320 celebrate the

00:23:56.940 murder of

00:23:57.280 any Christian

00:23:57.800 man, woman,

00:23:58.320 or child.

00:24:00.260 You can only

00:24:00.940 rely on

00:24:01.300 yourself, at

00:24:02.140 least until

00:24:02.480 the day

00:24:02.740 that the

00:24:03.080 scourge of

00:24:03.540 trans ideology

00:24:04.280 is eradicated

00:24:05.040 for good.

00:24:06.860 Now every

00:24:07.660 Christian, along

00:24:08.420 with every

00:24:08.820 man who

00:24:09.540 values

00:24:10.400 civilization

00:24:10.800 itself, must

00:24:12.200 do everything

00:24:12.740 in our

00:24:13.240 power to

00:24:13.720 ensure that

00:24:14.200 this hideous

00:24:14.940 agenda is

00:24:15.720 indeed banished

00:24:17.300 to the depths

00:24:17.860 of hell, which

00:24:19.460 is where it

00:24:19.840 originated and

00:24:21.540 where it

00:24:21.820 belongs.

00:24:23.440 Now let's

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00:26:20.700 All right, actually

00:26:21.440 we aren't really

00:26:21.820 going to have a

00:26:22.280 five headlines

00:26:22.840 segment today.

00:26:24.440 I want to focus on

00:26:25.520 the shooting.

00:26:26.180 There's a lot to be

00:26:26.720 said about that, and

00:26:28.540 I'll get back to

00:26:29.220 that in the closing

00:26:29.680 segment, which isn't

00:26:30.840 really a cancellation

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00:26:32.180 seems a little too

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00:26:34.660 cancellation, but we'll

00:26:35.840 get back to that.

00:26:36.680 I did want to mention

00:26:37.260 one other thing in

00:26:37.920 between here.

00:26:39.080 Give us a bit of a

00:26:41.280 break.

00:26:42.400 We've, so I wanted

00:26:44.800 to talk about this

00:26:45.380 briefly.

00:26:45.740 We've been talking

00:26:46.640 about flag burning on

00:26:49.640 the show this week

00:26:50.760 after Trump's

00:26:51.480 executive order, and

00:26:52.700 I've said that, you

00:26:54.900 know, I agree with

00:26:55.660 Trump.

00:26:56.460 I don't think that

00:26:57.540 burning the flag should

00:26:58.360 be legal.

00:26:59.760 Well, a number of

00:27:00.700 people have taken the

00:27:01.600 opportunity for a

00:27:03.520 gotcha.

00:27:04.480 You know, they, they

00:27:05.600 really got me.

00:27:06.620 They got me this time,

00:27:07.640 boy.

00:27:07.960 They got me.

00:27:09.260 James Lindsay is one

00:27:10.480 of them when, when

00:27:11.140 digging through my old

00:27:12.040 tweets and found that

00:27:13.100 back in 2019, I

00:27:15.040 actually had the

00:27:15.480 opposite opinion.

00:27:16.940 Back then I thought

00:27:18.140 that burning the flag

00:27:18.980 should be legal.

00:27:20.700 And so he tweeted

00:27:22.500 out to some

00:27:23.080 screenshots comparing,

00:27:24.520 you know, oh, you

00:27:25.040 said that back then

00:27:26.300 and now you're

00:27:26.720 saying this.

00:27:28.180 And he has me dead

00:27:29.420 to rights on that.

00:27:30.620 I fully admit it.

00:27:31.600 I changed my

00:27:32.140 opinion.

00:27:33.020 I did.

00:27:34.000 And then one of my

00:27:34.960 posts on X about

00:27:36.480 the flag burning

00:27:37.540 thing got community

00:27:39.140 noted.

00:27:39.620 The community

00:27:40.080 noters got to work

00:27:41.180 and they left this

00:27:42.040 note, which says,

00:27:43.580 Matt Walsh has

00:27:44.180 repeatedly, without

00:27:45.380 equivocation, said

00:27:46.460 burning the flag is

00:27:47.260 protected by the

00:27:48.020 First Amendment and

00:27:48.720 should not be

00:27:49.340 banned.

00:27:49.580 And they

00:27:52.780 linked to three

00:27:53.420 old tweets, all

00:27:54.080 from 2019.

00:27:56.460 And, you know, now

00:27:57.400 a bunch of people are

00:27:58.000 really enjoying this

00:27:58.780 gotcha.

00:27:59.540 In fact, according to

00:28:00.360 them, this proves that

00:28:01.240 I'm a grifter.

00:28:02.640 A grifter, it's a

00:28:03.520 grift.

00:28:04.440 As we know, people on

00:28:05.520 social media have a

00:28:06.580 vocabulary of like four

00:28:07.820 words and grifter is

00:28:09.180 three of them.

00:28:10.600 Everyone's a grifter

00:28:11.300 now.

00:28:11.620 Everything is a grift.

00:28:12.800 If you disagree with

00:28:13.700 someone, it's like they're

00:28:14.600 a grifter.

00:28:15.380 That's every, no

00:28:16.180 one, everything is,

00:28:17.400 it's, it's all, it's

00:28:18.340 all a scam.

00:28:19.020 No one is actually

00:28:20.300 saying their real

00:28:21.020 opinions about

00:28:21.520 anything.

00:28:22.180 And if you change

00:28:23.060 your opinion about

00:28:24.040 something, watch

00:28:25.520 out that grifter

00:28:27.000 central right there.

00:28:28.720 Now I'll read my old

00:28:30.020 tweets to you, the

00:28:31.560 ones that they dug

00:28:32.240 up.

00:28:34.740 So this is me back

00:28:35.760 in 2019, three of

00:28:37.300 them.

00:28:38.280 The argument that

00:28:39.200 burning the flag isn't

00:28:40.060 protected by the

00:28:40.580 First Amendment because

00:28:41.300 it's offensive and

00:28:42.020 gross seems very

00:28:42.740 similar to the

00:28:43.300 argument that assault

00:28:44.040 rifles aren't

00:28:44.740 protected by the

00:28:45.280 Second Amendment

00:28:45.680 because they're loud

00:28:46.420 and scary, emotional

00:28:47.740 and irrational

00:28:48.380 arguments.

00:28:50.480 Then I also said, I

00:28:51.420 think burning the

00:28:51.860 flag is stupid and

00:28:52.580 gross, but obviously

00:28:53.460 it's free speech.

00:28:54.240 Free speech doesn't

00:28:54.960 include desecrating a

00:28:55.760 piece of cloth, is a

00:28:56.540 really weird position

00:28:57.480 that cannot be

00:28:58.580 intellectually justified.

00:28:59.900 And then finally I

00:29:00.720 tweeted this in

00:29:01.280 response to Michael

00:29:02.080 Knowles, who I was

00:29:04.040 arguing with on

00:29:05.100 Twitter at the time.

00:29:07.040 But burning the flag

00:29:08.180 doesn't abolish or

00:29:09.020 harm the country in

00:29:09.620 any way.

00:29:10.040 It just makes people

00:29:10.680 very emotionally upset

00:29:11.740 and speech that makes

00:29:13.220 people very emotionally

00:29:13.980 upset is the only

00:29:14.880 speech that needs to

00:29:15.620 be protected.

00:29:16.160 So that's what I

00:29:17.200 said back in 2019,

00:29:18.400 six years ago.

00:29:21.200 And now I'm saying

00:29:22.280 something different.

00:29:24.180 What accounts for the

00:29:25.700 change?

00:29:27.320 Well, I just want to

00:29:28.360 explain this to anyone

00:29:29.460 who's disturbed or

00:29:30.440 confused.

00:29:33.940 And see, what

00:29:34.740 happened is that I

00:29:36.160 changed my mind.

00:29:37.140 I had one opinion,

00:29:38.520 but upon further

00:29:40.040 reflection, I changed

00:29:41.840 my opinion so that

00:29:44.080 it's a different

00:29:44.540 opinion, which is

00:29:46.660 something I do

00:29:47.200 sometimes.

00:29:47.580 Actually, I do it a

00:29:48.300 lot.

00:29:49.360 This scandal goes

00:29:50.440 even deeper.

00:29:51.140 It goes deeper than

00:29:52.100 James Lindsay

00:29:52.660 realized.

00:29:53.260 I changed my opinion

00:29:54.580 a lot.

00:29:57.140 It's happened like

00:29:58.100 many times.

00:30:00.440 And in particular,

00:30:01.400 if the facts on the

00:30:02.420 ground change or if

00:30:03.840 new information or

00:30:04.820 events reveal

00:30:05.680 themselves, then my

00:30:08.340 opinion will also

00:30:09.420 change.

00:30:11.520 So what changed on

00:30:13.200 this topic?

00:30:13.980 Well, you know,

00:30:15.200 what was the main

00:30:16.320 reason for arguing?

00:30:18.460 What was the main

00:30:19.280 this week when I've

00:30:21.540 when I've made the

00:30:22.080 point that burning

00:30:23.900 the flag should be

00:30:24.580 illegal?

00:30:26.040 What was the main

00:30:26.840 reason that I gave?

00:30:27.520 What was the main

00:30:28.000 what was my main

00:30:28.760 my main argument?

00:30:30.820 What did I say on my

00:30:31.680 show and in expos on

00:30:33.920 the topic this week?

00:30:34.600 Well, I said pretty

00:30:35.160 clearly that in a

00:30:36.740 country where people

00:30:37.580 are prosecuted for

00:30:39.220 desecrating pride

00:30:40.220 flags in that

00:30:42.260 country.

00:30:43.920 It should be illegal

00:30:45.140 to burn the American

00:30:46.020 flag because I

00:30:47.160 refuse to live in a

00:30:48.040 country where the

00:30:49.220 symbols of gay pride

00:30:50.420 are more protected

00:30:51.600 than our national

00:30:53.200 flag.

00:30:54.940 That's that's my

00:30:55.840 argument.

00:30:57.060 So what changed?

00:30:57.840 Well, over the past

00:30:59.060 six years, American

00:31:00.020 citizens have been

00:31:00.920 prosecuted for burning

00:31:02.300 LGBT flags.

00:31:03.140 American citizens have

00:31:04.040 been prosecuted for

00:31:04.680 leaving tire marks on

00:31:06.500 gay pride crosswalks

00:31:08.160 that are painted on

00:31:09.380 public streets.

00:31:10.500 Now, to my knowledge

00:31:11.620 before 2019, nobody

00:31:12.760 had ever been

00:31:13.160 prosecuted for driving

00:31:14.280 over a, you know, a

00:31:16.660 rainbow crosswalk or if

00:31:18.840 they had, I didn't know

00:31:19.660 about it.

00:31:21.280 But since then, that

00:31:22.640 has happened on multiple

00:31:23.680 occasions.

00:31:25.520 And in light of that, my

00:31:27.000 opinion has shifted.

00:31:28.040 If we lived and I said

00:31:29.360 this a few days ago, if

00:31:31.200 we lived in a

00:31:31.920 libertarian, absolutist,

00:31:34.280 free speech utopia, my

00:31:37.440 stance on burning the

00:31:38.420 American flag would

00:31:39.520 probably be different.

00:31:41.540 And I said that this

00:31:43.040 week.

00:31:43.940 But we don't live in

00:31:45.520 that country.

00:31:47.220 We don't.

00:31:49.060 We live in a country

00:31:50.220 where hate speech laws

00:31:51.420 exist.

00:31:51.900 We live in a country

00:31:52.640 where the LGBT pride

00:31:54.820 flag is protected by law.

00:31:58.740 You know, and you can be

00:31:59.720 intentionally obtuse about

00:32:00.880 it and say, well, that's

00:32:01.860 not true.

00:32:02.260 They weren't the people

00:32:03.760 that were prosecuted for

00:32:05.120 driving over a pride

00:32:08.800 crosswalk.

00:32:09.780 It wasn't it wasn't

00:32:10.820 because it was a pride

00:32:11.780 symbol is because they

00:32:12.540 were, you know, destroying

00:32:13.800 public property or

00:32:14.620 whatever.

00:32:15.800 Oh, OK, just

00:32:18.360 you know that that's

00:32:20.120 nonsense.

00:32:20.680 I know it's nonsense.

00:32:22.900 When they go after

00:32:23.920 someone for burning the

00:32:24.780 LGBT flag or for driving

00:32:26.300 over the pride crosswalk,

00:32:27.600 they may come up with

00:32:29.180 some other pretense.

00:32:30.800 But the reason they're

00:32:32.400 doing it is because it

00:32:34.240 was a gay pride thing.

00:32:35.620 We all know that.

00:32:37.680 So effectively, in this

00:32:39.600 country, the the gay

00:32:42.100 pride symbols are

00:32:42.960 protected by law.

00:32:44.420 And we all know that

00:32:45.480 again, I just don't have

00:32:47.320 patience for this thing

00:32:48.240 where, like, I'm talking

00:32:49.640 to someone and we all

00:32:51.800 know the reality, but

00:32:52.820 they're going to pretend

00:32:53.880 that we don't know it.

00:32:54.820 It's like, OK.

00:32:55.520 Now, I know the

00:32:58.120 response to this point

00:32:59.200 is that, well, OK, then

00:33:02.180 we should stop

00:33:02.740 prosecuting people for

00:33:03.600 desecrating gay flags.

00:33:06.120 You know, let's let's

00:33:08.020 have let's have more

00:33:09.400 speech, not less.

00:33:10.420 You know, I've heard

00:33:10.980 that argument.

00:33:12.840 That's an argument that

00:33:13.960 Seth Dillon was make.

00:33:15.360 It was he's also does not

00:33:16.740 agree with me.

00:33:17.260 He was making that point

00:33:18.000 more speech, not less.

00:33:19.720 Let's you know, let's

00:33:21.540 let's so my my point is

00:33:23.560 not an argument for

00:33:24.420 making it illegal to

00:33:25.500 burn the American flag,

00:33:26.280 but it is rather an

00:33:27.260 argument for for not

00:33:30.140 prosecuting people who

00:33:31.380 desecrate the symbols

00:33:32.300 of gay pride.

00:33:34.980 And I agree, we should

00:33:36.240 we should we should

00:33:37.460 stop that.

00:33:37.960 We should stop

00:33:38.600 prosecuting people for

00:33:39.760 desecrating gay pride

00:33:40.720 symbols, but and we

00:33:42.840 should not have hate

00:33:43.480 speech laws.

00:33:44.100 I agree.

00:33:44.620 I agree also with that.

00:33:49.620 But that's not the

00:33:51.280 reality, right?

00:33:54.460 We shouldn't prosecute

00:33:55.660 people for for

00:33:57.800 desecrating the symbols

00:33:58.680 of gay pride, but we

00:34:00.180 do.

00:34:02.460 Hate speech laws

00:34:03.740 shouldn't exist.

00:34:05.780 But they do.

00:34:08.620 They just do.

00:34:10.260 OK, so the fact that

00:34:11.480 they shouldn't.

00:34:12.180 Well, that we should

00:34:13.160 just make it so that's

00:34:14.120 not the case.

00:34:15.300 Well, but it is the

00:34:16.360 case.

00:34:17.360 OK, it is actually the

00:34:18.780 case.

00:34:19.000 So right now at this

00:34:20.160 moment.

00:34:21.480 That's the case.

00:34:22.220 And so right now at

00:34:23.020 this moment, at a

00:34:23.700 moment when hate speech

00:34:24.500 laws exist and you can

00:34:25.460 go to jail for

00:34:26.080 desecrating a gay flag.

00:34:27.640 And if you drive over a

00:34:29.040 great gay pride crosswalk,

00:34:30.840 they're going to launch a

00:34:31.520 manhunt to find you and

00:34:33.320 drag you to jail at this

00:34:35.340 moment when all of that

00:34:36.740 stuff is the reality.

00:34:39.600 Do I think that the

00:34:40.820 American flag should have

00:34:41.680 fewer protections in the

00:34:42.740 LGBT flag?

00:34:43.500 No.

00:34:44.720 I'm dealing in reality,

00:34:46.200 not not what ought to be,

00:34:47.320 but what actually is,

00:34:49.240 what really actually is.

00:34:53.080 I've said the same thing

00:34:54.080 about hate crimes.

00:34:55.940 I don't think hate crime

00:34:57.020 laws should exist.

00:34:58.980 But they do.

00:35:01.340 And if they do, which

00:35:03.200 they do, then they should

00:35:04.920 be enforced equally.

00:35:07.980 So I think that when a

00:35:09.400 black person attacks a

00:35:10.380 white person, that that

00:35:13.160 should be prosecuted as a

00:35:14.320 hate crime.

00:35:17.240 And and you can say,

00:35:18.260 well, no, it shouldn't

00:35:18.940 be because I don't

00:35:19.400 believe I don't I don't

00:35:20.180 think hate crime laws

00:35:20.860 should exist, but they

00:35:21.880 do exist, though.

00:35:23.040 They do actually exist.

00:35:24.480 And since they exist,

00:35:26.200 they should be applied

00:35:27.380 equally.

00:35:31.780 That's it.

00:35:33.840 One standard for

00:35:35.160 everybody.

00:35:37.220 That's my position.

00:35:40.140 So my opinion has

00:35:41.520 changed, but.

00:35:42.120 I also want to say

00:35:44.240 this, whether you

00:35:45.000 agree with my opinion

00:35:45.860 now or not, whether

00:35:47.020 you think it's

00:35:47.600 reasonable that my

00:35:48.340 opinion changed or

00:35:49.180 not, doesn't matter.

00:35:52.260 Like we have to stop

00:35:53.260 doing this ridiculous

00:35:54.080 thing where we treat

00:35:55.160 changing your mind like

00:35:56.300 it's a scandal.

00:35:57.080 I mean, this is by far

00:35:57.820 one of the dumbest

00:35:58.580 aspects of modern

00:35:59.600 political debate.

00:36:02.160 I'm just annoyed by it,

00:36:03.360 which is why I'm kind of

00:36:04.100 ranting about it now.

00:36:05.160 I'm used to it.

00:36:06.040 I mean, but but

00:36:07.000 and every aspect of

00:36:09.300 modern political debate

00:36:10.100 is very dumb and

00:36:11.140 fruitless and it

00:36:12.500 makes debating

00:36:13.500 basically pointless.

00:36:17.720 But this is probably

00:36:18.860 the dumbest.

00:36:20.540 Because changing your

00:36:21.600 mind is healthy.

00:36:23.260 Change is part of

00:36:24.160 life.

00:36:24.500 A changing mind is a

00:36:25.600 living, active mind.

00:36:26.720 If your mind never

00:36:27.340 changes, it means your

00:36:28.120 mind is not alive.

00:36:28.900 It means your mind is

00:36:29.600 dead.

00:36:30.540 You're not thinking.

00:36:31.720 You're not actively

00:36:32.360 contemplating the issue.

00:36:33.540 Now, sure, if your mind

00:36:34.400 changes constantly, wildly,

00:36:36.360 from one extreme to

00:36:37.300 another, then that's a

00:36:38.080 sign that you're

00:36:38.540 indecisive, flighty, and

00:36:39.740 fickle.

00:36:41.040 If your mind changes

00:36:42.040 back and forth, depending

00:36:42.900 on the audience you're

00:36:43.680 speaking to or whatever

00:36:44.740 is popular at the

00:36:45.580 moment, then that's a

00:36:46.400 sign that you're a

00:36:46.880 hypocrite.

00:36:47.280 So, yes, in those

00:36:47.820 cases, changing your

00:36:49.020 mind can be a symptom

00:36:49.940 of a deeper issue.

00:36:51.700 It can be a red flag.

00:36:52.540 But that's not how we

00:36:54.100 look at it these days.

00:36:54.840 These days, we've

00:36:55.380 decided that if you

00:36:56.580 change your mind ever

00:36:57.720 on any topic at any

00:36:59.100 point for any reason,

00:37:00.360 it makes you some sort

00:37:01.580 of con artist.

00:37:02.600 Like, it's supposed to

00:37:03.180 be a source of

00:37:03.760 embarrassment.

00:37:05.200 I mean, I've had

00:37:05.920 people digging up

00:37:06.680 stuff I said literally

00:37:07.560 13 years ago and

00:37:08.720 saying, oh, yeah?

00:37:09.780 Well, this is what you

00:37:11.620 said back then.

00:37:13.480 Yeah, that was more

00:37:14.220 than a decade ago.

00:37:15.240 Has your mind not

00:37:15.940 changed at all in a

00:37:16.880 decade?

00:37:17.620 Did you settle on one

00:37:18.960 set of opinions over a

00:37:20.060 decade ago and just

00:37:20.840 stick with those

00:37:21.380 opinions no matter

00:37:22.020 what?

00:37:23.360 Did you decide in,

00:37:24.480 like, sixth grade?

00:37:25.800 Like, here are my

00:37:26.640 opinions.

00:37:27.160 Sorry, folks.

00:37:27.900 These are my opinions.

00:37:28.960 They'll be my opinions

00:37:29.640 forever.

00:37:30.360 I will never have any

00:37:31.180 other opinions but

00:37:32.020 these.

00:37:32.420 Here's a list of my

00:37:33.260 opinions.

00:37:33.580 I have 42 opinions

00:37:34.680 and I will never

00:37:35.540 have any other

00:37:36.140 opinions but those

00:37:36.980 opinions.

00:37:40.240 Is that what you

00:37:40.900 did?

00:37:42.540 If so, then I would

00:37:44.240 say, how is that not

00:37:45.400 the more embarrassing

00:37:46.220 thing?

00:37:49.060 And in my case, I

00:37:49.960 think anyone who's

00:37:50.440 followed my work over

00:37:51.260 the years will agree

00:37:51.940 that I've largely been

00:37:53.300 very consistent.

00:37:54.000 My fundamental

00:37:54.460 principles and beliefs

00:37:55.360 have not changed

00:37:56.140 really at all.

00:37:57.580 My core issues today

00:37:58.940 were my core issues

00:37:59.820 15 years ago.

00:38:00.760 But downstream from

00:38:02.500 that, my thinking

00:38:03.140 has changed to some

00:38:04.120 extent on some

00:38:04.960 issues and the

00:38:06.220 biggest change is

00:38:06.980 that, and I fully

00:38:07.780 admit this, I have

00:38:09.540 become a lot more

00:38:10.220 right-wing over the

00:38:11.160 past five or six

00:38:11.960 years.

00:38:12.520 This is another thing

00:38:13.180 that people do and

00:38:13.840 kind of a gotcha

00:38:14.640 as, I guess, more

00:38:17.660 proof that I'm a

00:38:18.440 grifter or something.

00:38:20.620 They'll pull up

00:38:21.340 examples and they'll

00:38:22.800 show that, you know,

00:38:23.900 I'm even more

00:38:25.340 extreme to the right

00:38:26.360 now than I was.

00:38:27.500 Well, here's what

00:38:27.900 you were back in

00:38:28.980 2018.

00:38:29.360 Well, yeah, you

00:38:31.160 know, since COVID

00:38:31.980 and the George Floyd

00:38:32.700 riots and the 2020

00:38:33.780 era of LGBT, the

00:38:36.220 LGBT woke crusade,

00:38:37.980 2020s wokeness and

00:38:39.380 all that, since

00:38:39.960 those things, I've

00:38:41.240 become even more

00:38:42.060 right-wing.

00:38:42.780 I've always been

00:38:43.320 right-wing.

00:38:43.920 I mean, 10 years

00:38:44.420 ago, I was still

00:38:44.980 much further to the

00:38:45.740 right than most

00:38:46.220 people.

00:38:46.820 You can Google

00:38:47.400 what people were

00:38:47.940 saying about me in

00:38:48.760 2014 when I was

00:38:49.840 just a blogger and

00:38:50.600 I was still back

00:38:51.980 then considered a

00:38:52.760 right-wing extremist.

00:38:53.680 But over the past

00:38:54.860 five or six years,

00:38:55.540 I've become even

00:38:56.180 more right-wing.

00:38:57.700 I was already

00:38:58.440 pretty radical by

00:38:59.160 most standards, but

00:38:59.960 even from that

00:39:00.520 starting point, the

00:39:01.220 2020 era was

00:39:03.080 radicalizing even

00:39:04.040 for me, just as

00:39:05.900 it was for a lot

00:39:06.580 of people.

00:39:09.100 And the other

00:39:09.660 thing, and this

00:39:10.000 is really, as we

00:39:11.100 finally 15 minutes

00:39:12.040 into it, I get to

00:39:12.820 my real point, that

00:39:13.800 the other thing

00:39:14.700 that's happened over

00:39:15.440 the past five, six,

00:39:16.340 seven years for me

00:39:17.300 that can account for

00:39:19.560 if you've noticed

00:39:20.060 some shifts, some

00:39:21.400 wow, you're an even

00:39:23.600 bigger right-wing

00:39:24.400 lunatic now than you

00:39:25.200 were back then, if

00:39:26.480 you've kind of

00:39:27.060 noticed that.

00:39:28.120 The other thing,

00:39:28.660 aside from these

00:39:29.080 big national and

00:39:30.640 global events, is

00:39:32.640 that I've had more

00:39:35.560 kids over the last

00:39:36.800 five, six, seven

00:39:37.420 years.

00:39:37.680 I've been a dad for

00:39:38.540 a lot longer.

00:39:39.100 In 2019, I had

00:39:39.920 three kids, all

00:39:40.620 under the age of

00:39:41.680 seven.

00:39:43.460 Now I have six

00:39:44.320 kids ranging from

00:39:45.080 the ages of two to

00:39:45.880 twelve, so I've

00:39:46.860 been a parent for

00:39:47.720 twelve, going on

00:39:48.960 thirteen years.

00:39:50.660 A lot of kids.

00:39:52.740 And that has

00:39:53.460 radicalized me even

00:39:54.480 more, you know?

00:39:56.540 I mean, try it

00:39:57.340 sometime.

00:39:58.200 Try being a

00:39:59.380 conservative than

00:40:00.460 having like six

00:40:01.140 kids and not

00:40:03.400 turning into a

00:40:04.460 militant right-wing

00:40:06.240 radical.

00:40:07.940 It's impossible.

00:40:08.720 I'm telling you, the

00:40:09.460 most radically

00:40:10.060 right-wing people you

00:40:11.020 will ever meet, even

00:40:12.060 if they're not loud

00:40:12.660 about it, even if

00:40:13.440 they're not loud

00:40:13.900 mouths like I am,

00:40:14.660 but the most

00:40:15.480 radically right-wing

00:40:16.240 people you'll ever

00:40:16.740 meet, is go to a

00:40:18.920 church, go to a

00:40:20.400 reverent, traditional

00:40:22.500 Catholic church

00:40:23.420 sometime, look for

00:40:25.760 the family, like

00:40:26.820 the young family

00:40:27.740 with five-plus

00:40:28.520 kids, and the

00:40:29.600 dad that's sitting

00:40:30.400 there in the pew

00:40:31.240 is guaranteed to

00:40:32.240 be about as far

00:40:33.180 to the right as

00:40:34.260 you can possibly

00:40:35.000 be on every

00:40:36.360 single issue.

00:40:37.620 And so is his

00:40:38.140 wife, by the way.

00:40:39.680 When you're the

00:40:40.480 head of a large

00:40:41.040 family, or even a

00:40:41.840 not-so-large

00:40:42.340 family, and it's

00:40:43.100 your job to

00:40:43.600 protect and

00:40:44.080 provide for your

00:40:45.220 family, and to

00:40:46.340 see to their

00:40:46.680 physical, financial,

00:40:47.560 and spiritual

00:40:47.960 well-being, it

00:40:48.620 changes you.

00:40:49.120 It completely

00:40:49.520 shifts your

00:40:50.000 priorities.

00:40:50.400 It just

00:40:50.700 does.

00:40:51.840 And now, for

00:40:54.640 me, the

00:40:54.980 guiding principle,

00:40:55.760 the core of

00:40:56.260 my agenda, my

00:40:58.100 project, is that,

00:40:59.580 as I said to

00:41:00.060 Tucker when I

00:41:00.580 was on his

00:41:01.080 show a few

00:41:01.460 months ago, I

00:41:03.220 want my children

00:41:03.820 to go to

00:41:04.180 heaven, and I

00:41:04.640 want them to

00:41:05.040 live in a good,

00:41:05.980 healthy, thriving

00:41:06.800 country.

00:41:08.460 If I want to

00:41:09.180 decide whether I

00:41:10.120 support something

00:41:10.820 or not, I ask

00:41:11.760 myself, do I

00:41:13.100 want my children

00:41:13.880 to live in a

00:41:14.640 country where

00:41:15.600 this kind of

00:41:16.240 thing is

00:41:16.700 happening?

00:41:18.940 Is it good for

00:41:19.800 my kids?

00:41:20.140 Is it good for

00:41:20.720 their well-being?

00:41:22.280 That's my first

00:41:23.000 consideration, and

00:41:24.520 it overrides all

00:41:25.440 other considerations,

00:41:26.360 I'll be honest

00:41:26.760 with you, all

00:41:27.880 other considerations.

00:41:30.920 That's why when it

00:41:31.560 comes to something

00:41:32.020 like weed, you

00:41:33.120 know, it's another

00:41:33.440 topic where I've

00:41:34.060 changed my opinion.

00:41:35.060 I've become more

00:41:36.200 right-wing on that.

00:41:38.340 2018, 2019, I was

00:41:39.540 more libertarian.

00:41:40.320 Okay, let's

00:41:40.860 legalize it.

00:41:41.500 Now my opinion is

00:41:42.720 eradicate it, throw

00:41:44.160 everyone in jail who

00:41:45.160 sells it, get rid of

00:41:46.540 it, ban it

00:41:47.220 everywhere, okay?

00:41:48.060 That's my opinion

00:41:48.840 now.

00:41:49.700 And why has it

00:41:51.920 changed?

00:41:52.180 Well, there's a lot

00:41:52.620 of reasons, but the

00:41:53.980 number one reason is

00:41:55.880 that I don't want my

00:41:56.760 kids to live in a

00:41:57.380 country where they

00:41:58.040 can't walk down the

00:41:58.740 street without smelling

00:41:59.500 the stench of this

00:42:00.440 disgusting stuff and

00:42:01.720 seeing potheads

00:42:02.480 wandering around in a

00:42:03.440 daze everywhere.

00:42:04.220 I don't want my kids to

00:42:04.960 live in that country.

00:42:05.860 I don't want my kids to

00:42:06.520 live in a community where

00:42:08.300 everybody's high and

00:42:09.280 where there's like a

00:42:10.240 smoke shop, a weed shop

00:42:12.180 on every corner.

00:42:12.800 I don't want that

00:42:13.300 country.

00:42:13.560 I don't want that

00:42:14.140 country for my kids.

00:42:18.340 So I want the stuff

00:42:19.300 banned.

00:42:19.760 And you might say, but

00:42:20.560 I have a right to, you

00:42:22.340 know, I want it.

00:42:23.220 Yeah, I don't care.

00:42:26.640 That's why any argument

00:42:27.620 you make is a non-starter

00:42:28.940 for me.

00:42:29.360 I don't even, I don't

00:42:30.240 care.

00:42:31.060 It's not good for my

00:42:31.960 kids and I care about

00:42:33.280 them more than I care

00:42:33.900 about you.

00:42:35.260 I care about them more

00:42:36.260 than I care about

00:42:36.800 whatever you want.

00:42:37.420 Yeah, but I want to

00:42:38.040 smoke weed.

00:42:38.480 I don't care about

00:42:39.040 that.

00:42:41.660 It's a whole lot worse

00:42:42.560 for my kids if they

00:42:43.160 live in that kind of

00:42:43.760 society.

00:42:44.740 That's what I care

00:42:45.380 about.

00:42:47.420 How does this relate to

00:42:48.320 the flag burning topic?

00:42:49.260 Well, again, I don't

00:42:49.840 want my kids to live in

00:42:50.600 a country where

00:42:51.180 degenerate, filthy,

00:42:52.320 green-haired freaks are

00:42:53.300 burning the flag in the

00:42:54.560 street.

00:42:56.900 Really, is that simple?

00:42:58.000 You know, you might say

00:42:58.580 that it's too simple.

00:42:59.300 You might say that I

00:42:59.900 should have a more

00:43:00.380 intellectual, nuanced

00:43:01.420 view of the topic.

00:43:04.020 Well, I don't.

00:43:06.320 This is my view.

00:43:07.140 Those people are my

00:43:09.200 enemies.

00:43:09.700 They're enemies of my

00:43:10.540 family and my country.

00:43:11.960 They want me and my

00:43:13.220 family and my country

00:43:14.120 destroyed.

00:43:14.780 Very specifically, by the

00:43:15.800 way, like many of them

00:43:16.680 have been very explicit

00:43:17.400 that they want my family

00:43:19.080 personally and

00:43:20.100 specifically to be

00:43:21.220 destroyed.

00:43:21.780 That's another

00:43:22.180 radicalizing thing, by

00:43:23.220 the way.

00:43:25.240 When you get to the

00:43:26.300 point where you've got

00:43:27.080 like a Bible-length

00:43:29.860 binder of all of the

00:43:32.800 very explicit death

00:43:33.640 threats against you and

00:43:34.340 your family, that's

00:43:36.160 another thing.

00:43:37.140 You look at that and

00:43:38.140 you say, wow, these

00:43:38.640 people actually want,

00:43:39.900 like, they want my

00:43:41.040 kids to die.

00:43:42.080 They really do want

00:43:43.200 that.

00:43:43.720 And they would kill

00:43:45.400 them themselves if they

00:43:46.940 had the opportunity.

00:43:49.500 When you see that, you

00:43:50.600 say, okay, well,

00:43:53.100 that's it.

00:43:56.460 These people are my

00:43:57.320 enemies.

00:43:58.980 And I'm not going to

00:44:00.220 defend their right to

00:44:01.500 desecrate my country's

00:44:03.140 flag.

00:44:03.480 flag, I'm not going to

00:44:05.340 defend them at all.

00:44:08.960 And if they're doing

00:44:11.000 something, then I

00:44:11.960 probably oppose it.

00:44:14.760 I oppose everything they

00:44:16.280 stand for and everything

00:44:17.520 they do.

00:44:20.080 Because they're enemies of

00:44:21.200 me, my family, and my

00:44:22.020 country.

00:44:24.120 And that's it.

00:44:26.440 Now, you could say, well,

00:44:27.800 you should have a more

00:44:28.260 principled position than

00:44:29.240 that.

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00:44:30.040 I think, to me, that's

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00:44:33.480 It's that I'm going to

00:44:34.160 do what's best for my

00:44:34.900 family and my country.

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00:46:28.720 There's another element

00:46:34.380 of yesterday's attack

00:46:35.420 specifically relating to

00:46:36.580 the aftermath of the

00:46:37.520 shooting that needs to be

00:46:39.220 discussed.

00:46:40.300 If you currently have any

00:46:41.580 doubt as to the level of

00:46:42.560 anti-Catholic and

00:46:43.540 anti-Christian disdain

00:46:44.740 that's held by the

00:46:45.500 corporate press and

00:46:46.380 Democrat activists and

00:46:47.280 politicians, this is the

00:46:49.000 moment to disabuse

00:46:49.940 yourself of those

00:46:51.480 notions.

00:46:51.960 These people despise

00:46:53.160 believers in Jesus

00:46:54.520 Christ.

00:46:54.980 They see the death of

00:46:55.980 Christians, including

00:46:56.780 children, as an

00:46:57.940 opportunity to gloat, to

00:46:58.960 mock, and to assert

00:47:00.280 their own very

00:47:01.120 misguided and

00:47:01.820 pathological sense of

00:47:02.840 superiority.

00:47:04.160 You cannot understand

00:47:05.600 trans ideology without

00:47:07.000 recognizing that it's an

00:47:08.180 explicitly anti-Christian

00:47:10.720 ideology.

00:47:11.400 And yesterday, the

00:47:12.580 supporters of this

00:47:13.560 ideology all but

00:47:14.320 admitted that.

00:47:14.940 And we'll start with

00:47:15.480 the Minneapolis

00:47:16.160 Mayor Jacob Fry.

00:47:17.020 We played part of

00:47:17.620 this press conference

00:47:18.140 earlier, the portion

00:47:19.280 where he insisted that

00:47:20.440 transgenderism had

00:47:21.120 nothing to do with

00:47:21.580 the massacre.

00:47:22.700 But as it continued,

00:47:23.560 Fry went further.

00:47:24.700 He also stated very

00:47:25.380 directly that prayer is

00:47:26.880 not an appropriate

00:47:27.500 response to the

00:47:28.480 killings of children

00:47:30.260 because, after all,

00:47:31.420 the children in the

00:47:32.000 church were praying

00:47:33.500 when the trans

00:47:34.260 psychopath shot them

00:47:35.380 to death.

00:47:36.540 And yet, despite the

00:47:37.140 fact that they were

00:47:37.480 praying, they were

00:47:38.760 killed.

00:47:39.040 And therefore, don't

00:47:40.280 talk about prayer

00:47:40.840 anymore.

00:47:41.860 That's actually what he

00:47:42.820 said.

00:47:43.080 Watch.

00:47:43.900 Those families are

00:47:45.360 suffering immense pain

00:47:46.900 right now.

00:47:48.500 Think of this as if it

00:47:49.940 were your own.

00:47:51.960 Every one of us needs

00:47:53.140 to be wrapping our arms

00:47:54.800 around these families,

00:47:56.100 giving them every ounce

00:47:57.620 that we can muster.

00:48:01.220 These were Minneapolis

00:48:02.280 families.

00:48:03.300 These were American

00:48:04.140 families.

00:48:06.060 And the amount of pain

00:48:07.340 that they are suffering

00:48:08.300 right now is

00:48:09.280 extraordinary.

00:48:12.120 Don't just say this is

00:48:13.320 about thoughts and

00:48:14.140 prayers right now.

00:48:15.000 These kids were

00:48:15.620 literally praying.

00:48:17.520 It was the first week

00:48:18.760 of school.

00:48:19.860 They were in a church.

00:48:21.120 These are kids that

00:48:24.120 should be learning with

00:48:25.900 their friends.

00:48:27.860 They should be playing

00:48:29.020 on the playground.

00:48:31.020 They should be able to

00:48:32.400 go to school or church

00:48:34.420 in peace without the

00:48:35.980 fear or risk of

00:48:37.100 violence.

00:48:37.440 And their parents should

00:48:38.440 have the same kind of

00:48:39.440 assurance.

00:48:41.140 These are the sort of

00:48:42.240 basic assurances that

00:48:43.580 every family should have

00:48:45.080 every step of the day,

00:48:46.780 regardless of where

00:48:47.740 they are in our country.

00:48:49.280 Now, there are two

00:48:50.000 possibilities here.

00:48:50.600 The first possibility

00:48:51.380 is that Jacob Fry is

00:48:52.380 under the impression

00:48:53.000 that Christians pray

00:48:54.280 in order to generate

00:48:55.660 some kind of force

00:48:56.560 field around themselves,

00:48:57.860 rendering them

00:48:59.060 impervious to any

00:48:59.900 form of harm.

00:49:01.300 Maybe he genuinely

00:49:02.220 believes that now that

00:49:04.020 two children are dead

00:49:05.140 and many more were

00:49:07.760 seriously wounded.

00:49:08.980 You know, it's a great

00:49:09.500 opportunity to point out

00:49:10.380 that, in fact, prayer

00:49:11.140 does not make you

00:49:11.980 immune to bullets.

00:49:13.340 The other possibility,

00:49:14.420 which is obviously

00:49:15.040 what actually happened

00:49:15.880 here, is that Jacob Fry,

00:49:18.360 number one, realizes

00:49:20.380 that that's not what

00:49:21.360 Christians actually

00:49:22.100 believe.

00:49:22.480 No Christian thinks

00:49:23.300 that just because you

00:49:24.560 pray that you're not

00:49:25.840 going to be potentially

00:49:26.540 the victim of violence.

00:49:29.400 So Jacob Fry is, in

00:49:31.140 reality, a godless

00:49:31.960 communist who will take

00:49:32.820 advantage of any

00:49:33.580 perceived opportunity,

00:49:34.800 no matter how ghoulish

00:49:35.800 it may be, to denigrate

00:49:37.760 Christians and their

00:49:38.660 faith.

00:49:38.960 even if it means mocking

00:49:42.280 children who were just

00:49:43.800 killed in a church, which

00:49:45.180 is what he was doing.

00:49:46.300 He's actually mocking

00:49:47.320 the victims.

00:49:50.320 The killer himself, one

00:49:52.620 of his, wrote on, you

00:49:54.640 know, one of his

00:49:55.380 manifesto or whatever,

00:49:56.360 one of his videos,

00:49:57.580 where's your god now?

00:50:00.280 And that's basically what

00:50:01.680 Jacob Fry was saying.

00:50:02.360 He was echoing the

00:50:03.160 killer himself.

00:50:03.680 And he'll dance with

00:50:06.140 the local Somali horde.

00:50:07.820 He'll weep at the grave

00:50:08.580 of St. George Floyd and

00:50:09.740 pretend to revere

00:50:10.660 Islamic customs.

00:50:11.600 But when it comes to

00:50:12.140 Christians, he wants you

00:50:13.740 to know that, in his

00:50:14.340 view, prayer is

00:50:15.220 completely pointless and

00:50:16.620 embarrassing.

00:50:18.100 It's just going to make

00:50:18.960 you a bigger target for

00:50:20.040 these psychopathic

00:50:20.820 child killers that the

00:50:21.660 Democrats deliberately

00:50:22.540 incite at every

00:50:23.660 opportunity.

00:50:24.380 So why do it?

00:50:25.720 That's Jacob Fry's

00:50:26.420 position.

00:50:27.440 He won't say a word

00:50:28.200 about the domestic

00:50:28.860 terror threat that's

00:50:29.760 obviously posed by

00:50:31.100 trans ideology, but

00:50:32.000 he'll happily tell you

00:50:33.080 to stop trying to

00:50:34.080 communicate with God

00:50:35.260 because he doesn't

00:50:36.620 think God exists.

00:50:37.820 That's really what he

00:50:38.700 believes.

00:50:40.400 And it's not an

00:50:40.920 understatement to say

00:50:41.540 that the entire

00:50:42.220 Democrat Party believes

00:50:43.360 this.

00:50:43.740 They all lined up one

00:50:44.840 by one to communicate

00:50:45.840 the exact same message

00:50:47.200 yesterday.

00:50:47.720 Here's Joe Biden's

00:50:48.440 former spokesperson,

00:50:49.360 Jen Psaki, quote,

00:50:50.820 prayer is not freaking

00:50:51.780 enough.

00:50:52.440 Prayer does not end

00:50:53.120 school shootings.

00:50:53.880 Prayer, prayers do not

00:50:55.740 make parents feel safer

00:50:57.140 sending their kids to

00:50:58.260 school.

00:50:58.580 Prayer does not bring

00:50:59.500 those kids back.

00:51:00.540 Enough with the

00:51:01.200 thoughts and prayers.

00:51:03.080 Psaki then had this

00:51:05.000 meltdown on her show,

00:51:06.100 which nobody watches,

00:51:07.260 but they keep it on

00:51:08.360 the air anyway.

00:51:09.360 But we can see the

00:51:10.400 clips for anyway.

00:51:12.420 And here it is.

00:51:13.120 Watch.

00:51:14.080 And all they should be

00:51:15.260 hoping to do is have

00:51:16.400 someone to sit with at

00:51:17.380 lunch or someone to play

00:51:18.480 with on the playground.

00:51:19.720 And they should be

00:51:21.280 waiting to hear an update

00:51:23.080 when they get home.

00:51:24.340 And that is not what

00:51:25.160 these parents at the

00:51:25.900 school experience today.

00:51:27.100 Sorry, this is a tough

00:51:29.260 one.

00:51:30.300 Having your child killed

00:51:31.340 while they are sitting

00:51:32.040 in a pew for a morning

00:51:33.120 prayer service is not

00:51:34.340 what any parent should

00:51:35.260 have to worry about.

00:51:36.640 And I have felt a

00:51:37.740 mixture of anger and

00:51:39.140 a lot of anger and

00:51:40.540 emotional exhaustion

00:51:41.840 about this today, as I'm

00:51:42.900 sure many of you have,

00:51:43.920 because we have been

00:51:44.860 here so many times, so

00:51:47.580 many times.

00:51:49.100 And yet again, like

00:51:50.260 clockwork, half the

00:51:52.040 politicians in our

00:51:52.880 country have little more

00:51:53.840 to offer than thoughts

00:51:55.300 and prayers.

00:51:55.680 That is all they are

00:51:56.540 offering.

00:51:57.860 Join us all, join all of

00:51:59.140 us in praying for the

00:51:59.980 victims, was Vice

00:52:00.800 President J.D. Vance's

00:52:01.800 response today.

00:52:02.560 That's what he said.

00:52:03.540 That's it.

00:52:04.420 Please join me in

00:52:05.180 praying for everyone

00:52:05.920 involved, Trump wrote.

00:52:08.380 We have seen this play

00:52:09.400 out over and over again.

00:52:11.180 There is a shooting,

00:52:12.300 then come the thoughts

00:52:13.100 and prayers, and then

00:52:14.500 comes the attempt to

00:52:15.400 shift the focus.

00:52:16.380 This is what always

00:52:17.120 happens.

00:52:18.200 You're going to start

00:52:18.780 seeing narratives.

00:52:19.380 You're already seeing

00:52:19.960 them.

00:52:20.100 They're already out there

00:52:20.840 about how the shooter

00:52:22.020 was trans.

00:52:22.700 You're going to see

00:52:23.200 narratives about how the

00:52:24.200 shooter appeared to be

00:52:25.020 anti-Trump.

00:52:25.680 an anti-Semitic.

00:52:27.180 She's explicitly

00:52:27.980 attacking the

00:52:28.680 President and the

00:52:29.320 Vice President for

00:52:29.960 praying for children

00:52:30.940 who were just shot in

00:52:32.460 church.

00:52:33.460 That's what she's doing.

00:52:34.760 She pretends to cry.

00:52:36.880 This is a new moment in

00:52:38.320 American politics.

00:52:39.100 This country was founded

00:52:40.100 by Christians, Christians

00:52:42.060 of European descent

00:52:43.000 specifically.

00:52:44.420 At no other point in our

00:52:45.580 history would we openly

00:52:46.940 mock a basic practice

00:52:48.720 that's common, not only

00:52:49.900 in Catholicism, but in

00:52:52.380 every faith.

00:52:54.180 But that's what's

00:52:55.160 happening now.

00:52:56.260 The idea, of course, is

00:52:57.480 not simply that prayer is

00:52:58.600 useless, according to

00:52:59.260 Jen Psaki.

00:53:00.320 She's also implying that

00:53:01.380 beyond prayer, there's

00:53:02.600 nothing that Republicans

00:53:03.240 are proposing.

00:53:04.060 She's suggesting that we

00:53:05.320 don't intend to actually do

00:53:06.200 anything else.

00:53:08.060 But she's wrong there.

00:53:10.160 There's a lot of things we

00:53:11.200 can do.

00:53:11.800 We can classify

00:53:12.500 transgenderism as a mental

00:53:13.680 illness again.

00:53:14.660 We can prevent gun stores

00:53:16.180 from selling any firearms to

00:53:17.660 somebody identifying as

00:53:18.600 transgender.

00:53:19.380 I mean, you want to talk

00:53:20.120 about gun control when it

00:53:21.080 comes to the trans terror

00:53:22.020 threat.

00:53:22.400 Well, OK, how about that?

00:53:24.120 Is that your, what do you

00:53:25.400 think about that compromise?

00:53:27.380 We could reopen the

00:53:28.500 asylums and we could put

00:53:30.720 people there if they suffer

00:53:31.860 from mental illness and

00:53:33.100 delusions.

00:53:34.460 We've also proposed that we

00:53:36.340 should have armed security

00:53:37.300 at every school.

00:53:38.220 We should have armed security

00:53:39.400 at churches.

00:53:41.220 There's a lot of things that

00:53:42.420 we've proposed.

00:53:44.240 Of course, Jen Psaki wouldn't

00:53:45.540 be happy with any of those

00:53:46.520 steps.

00:53:47.540 And that's why in that

00:53:48.180 segment, she says that it's

00:53:49.200 a false narrative to blame

00:53:50.540 transgenderism for what

00:53:51.500 happened.

00:53:53.180 But really, treating

00:53:54.040 transgenderism like a mental

00:53:55.220 illness, which it is, is

00:53:57.700 clearly the most practical

00:53:58.560 way forward.

00:54:00.640 It's very simple.

00:54:01.640 But again, no one on the

00:54:02.860 left seems to even consider

00:54:04.280 this possibility.

00:54:05.420 Instead, they spent the

00:54:06.580 entire day mocking

00:54:07.360 Christians, one after

00:54:08.380 another.

00:54:09.240 It was completely

00:54:09.960 relentless.

00:54:11.220 This was a post from

00:54:12.260 someone named Maxwell

00:54:13.120 Alejandro Frost, for

00:54:14.800 example.

00:54:15.280 He apparently is a

00:54:15.880 congressman in Florida.

00:54:16.920 Quote, these children were

00:54:18.260 probably praying when they

00:54:19.260 were shot to death at

00:54:20.000 Catholic school.

00:54:20.880 Don't give us your effing

00:54:21.900 thoughts and prayers.

00:54:23.260 Trump got rid of the

00:54:24.120 Office of Gun Violence

00:54:25.180 Prevention.

00:54:26.060 Trump gutted the resources

00:54:27.140 that were in place to keep

00:54:28.240 our community safe.

00:54:31.560 Oh, he gutted the Office of

00:54:33.240 Gun Violence Prevention?

00:54:36.580 Well, that's obviously why it

00:54:38.200 happened.

00:54:39.200 When gun violence happens

00:54:40.580 now, it's obviously because

00:54:41.820 people are saying, oh, well,

00:54:42.820 the Office of Gun Violence

00:54:44.220 Prevention doesn't exist.

00:54:45.420 I guess we can go commit

00:54:46.440 gun violence now.

00:54:48.260 Well, tell me,

00:54:51.260 congressman, if that is what

00:54:53.740 you really are.

00:54:54.280 I've never heard of you.

00:54:55.940 The Office of Gun Violence

00:54:57.200 Prevention existed for how

00:54:58.680 long exactly?

00:54:59.540 I mean, I have no idea.

00:55:00.300 I've never heard of it

00:55:00.840 before.

00:55:02.920 But for however long it

00:55:04.600 existed, was gun violence

00:55:06.760 happening when we had the

00:55:08.520 Office of Gun Violence

00:55:09.500 Prevention?

00:55:11.840 Yeah, I think it was.

00:55:14.300 But, you know, they just can't

00:55:15.260 help themselves.

00:55:15.820 They hear about dead

00:55:16.520 children, dead Christian

00:55:17.760 children.

00:55:18.160 They can't bring

00:55:18.620 themselves to utter an ounce

00:55:19.640 of sympathy or concern or

00:55:20.940 prayer.

00:55:21.320 Instead, they deride the

00:55:22.320 entire concept of prayer.

00:55:24.780 If only we had the Office of

00:55:26.140 Gun Violence Prevention.

00:55:28.940 More bureaucracy.

00:55:29.940 That would have solved the

00:55:30.760 problem of psychopaths who

00:55:31.900 become convinced that they

00:55:32.840 were born in the wrong body.

00:55:34.840 Former RNC chair Michael

00:55:36.220 Steele agrees with that

00:55:37.380 sentiment.

00:55:37.780 He also decided to attack

00:55:39.080 Christians yesterday.

00:55:39.980 Watch.

00:55:40.180 I agree with the mayor.

00:55:41.960 I'm not.

00:55:42.640 The thoughts and prayers.

00:55:44.020 I'm so beyond.

00:55:45.540 So beyond that.

00:55:46.820 That nonsense.

00:55:47.960 The lie of that.

00:55:50.280 Because what we have are

00:55:52.440 people who continue to stand

00:55:54.160 in the way of actually doing

00:55:55.760 something to stop the

00:55:57.720 violence against their own

00:55:58.900 kids.

00:56:00.000 It is amazing to me.

00:56:02.120 We watch young kids die in

00:56:04.040 classrooms and now in church.

00:56:06.560 Prayer is nonsense, he says.

00:56:09.780 He wouldn't say that in any

00:56:10.920 other context, of course.

00:56:12.760 He would never attack

00:56:13.500 Muslims for praying.

00:56:15.800 He doesn't want his studio to

00:56:16.780 get blown up.

00:56:17.360 But when he's talking about

00:56:18.060 Christians, it just kind of

00:56:18.920 rolls right off the tongue.

00:56:20.600 A few days ago, you might

00:56:21.500 remember that we talked about

00:56:22.340 Jim Acosta's interview with

00:56:23.700 the AI-generated version of a

00:56:25.560 Parkland school shooting

00:56:26.420 victim.

00:56:27.440 The father behind that

00:56:28.740 abomination popped up again

00:56:30.080 yesterday, this time on CNN,

00:56:31.380 and he, too, mocked the idea

00:56:32.580 of prayer.

00:56:33.100 Watch.

00:56:33.360 With us now is Manuel

00:56:35.680 Oliver, Manuel's son, Joaquin

00:56:38.200 Guac.

00:56:38.820 Oliver was one of 17 who

00:56:41.240 were killed in the shooting

00:56:42.400 at Marjory Stoneman Douglas

00:56:43.600 High School in Parkland,

00:56:44.920 Florida.

00:56:46.320 And, Manny, you and your

00:56:47.280 wife, Patricia, just

00:56:48.160 celebrated Guac's 25th

00:56:50.060 birthday that would have

00:56:51.580 happened here just a few

00:56:52.600 weeks ago.

00:56:53.800 You know all too well what

00:56:56.220 these parents who have lost

00:56:58.360 kids are going through.

00:57:00.620 You know, what is on your

00:57:01.540 mind?

00:57:01.900 What should we be keeping a

00:57:03.240 focus on at this moment?

00:57:08.340 Well, my initial thought is

00:57:11.480 that I believe that thoughts

00:57:13.440 and prayers this time are out

00:57:16.480 of the picture.

00:57:17.300 I mean, these kids were

00:57:18.260 actually praying, and all

00:57:20.440 their thoughts were placed on

00:57:22.080 the right God they were all

00:57:24.380 praying to, and still they were

00:57:27.340 shot.

00:57:28.100 And so far, I believe two of

00:57:30.260 them lost their lives.

00:57:31.840 Those children were praying

00:57:32.880 to God, and still they were

00:57:34.460 shot.

00:57:36.000 Checkmate.

00:57:37.660 This is how these people

00:57:38.500 think.

00:57:39.660 It's like they're pulling a

00:57:41.000 gotcha moment on dead kids.

00:57:45.100 It's one of the most revealing

00:57:46.280 moments in modern political

00:57:47.420 history.

00:57:49.180 We all knew these people

00:57:50.040 thought like this, but it's

00:57:51.000 still extraordinary to see

00:57:51.980 them all admit it one by one.

00:57:54.060 They don't simply misunderstand

00:57:55.020 the concept of prayer.

00:57:55.980 They're willing to gloat on

00:57:57.300 national television when

00:57:59.180 children are shot to death as

00:58:00.440 they're praying.

00:58:01.860 The same line was repeated on

00:58:03.320 social media as well.

00:58:04.500 Here's how one account with

00:58:05.320 roughly a million followers put

00:58:06.580 it.

00:58:07.500 Quote, praying is the problem

00:58:08.980 here, not the solution.

00:58:10.240 People use prayer instead of

00:58:11.660 action.

00:58:12.260 If prayer worked, a house of

00:58:13.840 prayer wouldn't have just

00:58:14.860 experienced this tragedy.

00:58:18.020 It's almost difficult to read

00:58:20.160 these posts out loud.

00:58:21.220 They're the kinds of things

00:58:24.300 you'd expect to hear from

00:58:25.340 someone in a padded room.

00:58:27.100 I mean, saying that, well, if

00:58:29.860 prayer worked, you know, you

00:58:32.980 wouldn't have violence.

00:58:35.940 The fact that something evil is

00:58:38.020 happening at a church, that

00:58:39.000 proves that it doesn't work.

00:58:40.440 The church isn't working.

00:58:42.720 I mean, it's like saying that the

00:58:44.620 fact that there are sick people

00:58:45.720 at a hospital proves that

00:58:47.540 hospitals don't work.

00:58:49.280 Medicine doesn't work because

00:58:50.660 there are sick.

00:58:51.460 No, it's like there, that's,

00:58:53.180 it's because there are sick

00:58:54.680 people that we have hospitals.

00:58:56.600 It's because there's evil in

00:58:58.360 the world that we have

00:59:00.840 churches, that we need

00:59:03.080 prayer.

00:59:06.560 You know, and this, but this is

00:59:07.600 the talking point of the

00:59:08.300 Democrat party.

00:59:08.880 They refuse to acknowledge that

00:59:10.060 action is indeed very much on

00:59:11.560 the table.

00:59:12.740 And that action will involve

00:59:14.080 prayer, no matter how much

00:59:14.940 contempt they have for the

00:59:15.920 idea of religion and for

00:59:17.380 prayer.

00:59:18.720 But it involves a lot of

00:59:19.640 other things.

00:59:21.320 It also involves the

00:59:22.340 eradication of the trans

00:59:23.480 agenda in the United States.

00:59:26.260 The time for affirming the

00:59:28.040 delusions of men who think

00:59:29.200 they're women and vice versa

00:59:30.100 has come to an end.

00:59:31.120 This grand experiment, which

00:59:33.860 many people have participated

00:59:35.220 in, many of them because they

00:59:37.840 thought they were forced to,

00:59:39.400 is over.

00:59:41.140 Contrary to what the entire

00:59:42.120 Democrat party believes, this is

00:59:43.380 a Christian nation.

00:59:44.260 And in Christian nations, we

00:59:45.200 believe in the power of prayer.

00:59:46.360 We also believe in facing evil

00:59:47.840 and confronting it and

00:59:48.960 defeating it.

00:59:50.660 So that no more children have

00:59:51.840 to die in the service of a, of

00:59:53.900 an evil ideology.

00:59:56.160 We are witnessing the last

00:59:57.880 gasps of that ideology.

01:00:00.000 The desperation is disguised as

01:00:02.400 mockery.

01:00:03.040 And just like the mockery, their

01:00:05.080 ideology of death and mutilation

01:00:06.880 will soon come to an end.

01:00:10.000 That'll do the show today.

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01:00:11.620 Thanks for listening.

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