The Matt Walsh Show - January 21, 2019


Ep. 180 - The Despicable Campaign Against Covington Catholic Boys


Episode Stats

Length

42 minutes

Words per Minute

162.38918

Word Count

6,844

Sentence Count

422

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

29


Summary

A group of Catholic schoolboys have been hideously defamed and slandered all over the internet and the media. We are going to sort through this issue and figure out who the real bad guys are in this situation. Also, a company responds to that stupid Gillette ad with an ad of their own which I think is pretty fantastic. And finally, I'll answer some of your emails today on the Matt Walsh Show.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, a group of Catholic schoolboys have been hideously defamed and
00:00:05.180 slandered and smeared all over the internet and the media. We are going to sort through this issue
00:00:10.820 and figure out who the real bad guys are in this situation. Also, a company responds to that stupid
00:00:17.320 Gillette ad with an ad of their own, which I think is pretty fantastic. And finally,
00:00:21.920 I'll answer some of your emails today on the Matt Walsh Show.
00:00:30.000 Hello and welcome, everybody. I missed you terribly since we last spoke. So thank you for
00:00:35.800 coming back here again. Hey, remember one thing really quickly, if you're watching on Facebook
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00:00:46.440 that or go to YouTube or become a premium subscriber to The Daily Wire, where you get this show and
00:00:52.400 lots of other great content as well. Okay, I want to get to a story that just absolutely
00:00:58.920 infuriates me. I can't tell you how angry I am by this. I've just been like stewing over it for
00:01:07.420 the last 24 hours. If you were on social media at all this weekend, you probably already heard about
00:01:12.880 it. If you were not on social media, maybe you didn't hear about it. And also, if you weren't on
00:01:16.920 social media this weekend, I think that you made a very good choice, a choice that I wish that I had
00:01:21.660 made. So the story revolves around a bunch of kids from Covington Catholic High School in Covington,
00:01:31.500 Kentucky. They were in DC for the March for Life, which of course happened on Friday. And there was
00:01:36.600 a great turnout for that, by the way. You're not going to hear about that from the media. We heard
00:01:42.500 plenty about this incident that we'll talk about, but very little about the hundreds and hundreds of
00:01:46.840 thousands of people that were marching for the unborn the day before. So these kids, they were
00:01:52.160 in DC for the March for Life on Friday. And then on Saturday, they were supposed to board their buses
00:01:58.460 and go back to Kentucky. So they were in downtown again, apparently waiting for their bus so they
00:02:04.620 could board and go home. Now, that's when the incident occurred. And the incident, according to the
00:02:12.520 initial media reports, involved only these kids and a group of Native Americans led by a guy named
00:02:18.980 Nathan Phillips. And the Native Americans were in DC for apparently an indigenous people's march,
00:02:24.500 which was happening the day after the March for Life. The original story went viral on Saturday.
00:02:30.340 And it was that the kids randomly swarmed this group of Native Americans and started berating and
00:02:40.060 heckling them and mocking them and taunting and threatening them, not letting them leave while the
00:02:46.880 Native Americans were simply just playing the drums and singing a spiritual song. So this was just a,
00:02:52.600 according to the initial story, which went viral, this was a straightforward, blatant case of,
00:02:59.760 you know, privileged white boys acting in an outlandishly racist manner. And that's what millions of
00:03:08.260 people believed. That's what the media reported. That's what many prominent folks on both sides of
00:03:13.760 the political aisle said. But I'll tell you, when I first heard the story, and look, this is not,
00:03:23.000 I'm not like spiking the football because a lot of people got this wrong and I didn't kind of thing.
00:03:27.680 I'm just saying, you know, here was my thought process, okay? Well, I did, I went online briefly on
00:03:33.700 Saturday. I heard about this story and my first thought was, uh, what? You know, it just, it didn't
00:03:41.620 make sense to me. Um, it didn't sound believable. I'm not saying that it sounded impossible, but it
00:03:47.640 didn't sound believable or necessarily plausible that a group of Catholic high school boys would
00:03:53.900 just randomly start berating Native Americans for no reason. That's the kind of thing that you think
00:04:00.500 is plausible. If you have a cartoonish idea of human nature and especially of white teenage boys,
00:04:06.340 but maybe it's because I used to be a white teenage boy. Um, and, uh, so I can think back to then and
00:04:15.160 it's just, I can't imagine like you're in DC with a bunch of your friends and then you see some Native
00:04:20.620 Americans over there and you say, Hey, let's go over there and taunt them guys. Come on. Hey fellas,
00:04:25.500 let's go do something racist. Um, that's just, it doesn't re I'm not saying that's impossible that
00:04:32.180 that could happen. It's just, it's just seems very, very unlikely. That's just not how people act.
00:04:38.660 Right. Uh, but there was allegedly video of the incident, uh, video that shows that's what the media
00:04:48.100 said. The media said the video shows high school boys harassing Native Americans. And, um, the video
00:04:56.420 was a short clip. It turns out of a much longer piece of footage. Of course, the longer piece of
00:05:02.260 footage didn't, didn't surface magically until like 24 hours later after the kids already had already
00:05:06.960 been getting death threats and were facing possible expulsion and had been denounced, um, hither and
00:05:12.660 beyond. So let me show you, this is what the short clip looked like. This is, this is the, the clip
00:05:18.700 that most people saw on Saturday and that engendered all of this outrage. Here it is.
00:05:33.560 I'm so good.
00:05:34.560 Okay. So a lot of people saw that video out of context and concluded that it definitely shows
00:06:00.780 high school boys harassing Native Americans. Um, I watched it on Saturday when there was,
00:06:08.900 well, there's footage. So I, I watched it and I, I didn't really, I didn't see it. I didn't see what
00:06:14.480 everyone was claiming even out of context. It just, I didn't see, it looks weird. It looks strange.
00:06:20.700 It looks like the kind of video that screams out of context. I mean, there might as well be a giant
00:06:28.140 neon sign in the background of the video saying, this is out of context because you see that and
00:06:35.540 you think there's gotta be more to that. Even if the, even if the boys are the bad guys here,
00:06:40.420 there's just, how did this even come up? What was the scenario where these two groups even met?
00:06:48.100 These are just obvious questions that people should ask. And very few people did. Um, also it was claimed
00:06:55.360 initially that the boys were chanting, build the wall at the Native Americans. Well, again, you watch
00:07:01.500 that clip of the video, you, they're not chanting that that's not, that's not in the video. Um, which
00:07:08.120 is, which should be a giant red flag, right? If, if there's a viral story saying that this or that
00:07:14.420 happened and Hey, there's a video to go with it and the video doesn't match up with the story.
00:07:20.220 Well, that's a red flag because it, again, it shows you that at the very least there's more to
00:07:26.780 this that didn't make it on the video. Um, so personally on Saturday I saw the video, I heard
00:07:33.380 the story. And so I just, I didn't say anything about it. I didn't, I didn't chime in. I gave no
00:07:37.540 opinion, uh, for or against the students because I had no idea what was going on. It seemed, you know,
00:07:42.940 it's possible that the kids were in the wrong, uh, but it, or maybe they, they aren't, but I just,
00:07:48.860 I had no idea. So I didn't say anything. Um, but there were a lot of people who felt like they did
00:07:54.400 have a pretty good idea. So these kids were slandered and defamed and doxxed and, uh, threatened
00:07:59.320 for a full 24 hours. And they were even denounced by the mayor of their town, denounced by millions
00:08:06.560 of others, including very prominent, uh, powerful, influential people in the media and celebrities
00:08:12.060 and so on. Before finally this full story emerges, a much longer video surfaced as usually happens
00:08:21.140 with these sorts of situations. Um, one of the longer videos is over an hour long and was shot
00:08:27.440 apparently by a member of a group called the black Hebrew Israelites. Now the black Hebrew Israelites
00:08:33.600 are a very important group in this whole situation, but nobody even heard about them until a day
00:08:40.820 later. And by the way, the, uh, the black Hebrew Israelites, the BHI will call them. They are
00:08:48.640 essentially cult members. They're radical fringe people who think that they're descendants of the
00:08:56.540 Israelites and, uh, they, they hate everyone. Okay. This is their whole shtick. They stand on street
00:09:01.080 corners and they shout slurs at random passersby. I've seen them myself downtown. I've been downtown and
00:09:06.600 seen these, uh, these people, you know, set up with their little display, just screaming at pedestrians
00:09:13.220 who were happened to be walking by, um, screaming offensive things oftentimes. So in the video,
00:09:19.200 their video, you hear them screaming insults at random. The video goes on for like an hour before
00:09:25.480 we even see the, uh, the students and they're screaming insults at random people for a while.
00:09:30.140 They even, they, they're even insulting native Americans. They call them, uh, idol worshipers,
00:09:35.000 totem pole worshipers, and these sorts of things. So they're insulting everyone. They're,
00:09:38.780 they're, they're shouting anti-gay slurs. I mean, these are, these are not, this is not the group
00:09:44.820 that, that you would think leftists would want to, um, would want to defend. Um, then finally,
00:09:52.940 this group of people, they set their sights on the white kids who were standing around waiting for the
00:09:57.860 bus, the Covington kids. And, uh, they, the, the black radicals start hurling insults at the kids,
00:10:05.720 calling them incest children, calling them crackers, uh, at other points, call them a future
00:10:11.980 school shooters, tell them they should go back to Europe. Um, they, um, as I said, they're using,
00:10:19.340 they're using anti-gay slurs, the F word, the, the gay slur F word. And so the kids
00:10:26.160 respond to this provocation by just kind of trying to drown out the slurs with, with laughter. And
00:10:36.720 they start doing these kinds of like pep rally style school cheers. And at one point, one of the
00:10:42.280 kids, I mean, you know, they're teenage boys. So one of the kids takes his shirt off and starts
00:10:46.340 kind of like dancing as if they're at a football, um, game or something like that. And so everyone,
00:10:51.700 they're, they're just, they all have smiles on their faces. They're doing their cheers, their school
00:10:54.800 cheers. Um, they're laughing and singing and sort of dancing, responding to the hate with positivity.
00:11:01.860 Now, this seems like if you're, you know, in that situation and you've got these people shouting
00:11:06.620 slurs at you, uh, that seems like a perfectly good way to respond. The point is they didn't respond
00:11:13.300 in kind. They didn't respond by shouting, uh, slurs, much less racial slurs back at the black Hebrew
00:11:22.980 Israelites. Instead, they just kind of, like I said, they try to drown it out. Um, this goes on for a
00:11:30.740 while until finally this native American group comes in. Uh, now remember the original story was that
00:11:39.920 the, the white kids, I guess, track down these native Americans, found them and surrounded them
00:11:46.640 and, and accosted them verbally. Um, but then you see the video and you see that the white kids are
00:11:53.440 in the process of being accosted, verbally accosted by the black Hebrew Israelites. And then the native
00:11:58.360 American group comes in and walks up to the white kids playing the drums in their faces. And while this
00:12:06.080 is happening, the black Israelites are still shouting slurs. Someone tells us that someone tells the kids
00:12:11.420 to go back to Europe and so on. Um, but the kids, they just continue their strategy of kind of keeping
00:12:17.040 it positive, staying above the fray. They're doing their school cheers. I never, I watched a video. I
00:12:22.100 watched the full video. I never heard anyone chant, build the wall. Maybe somebody said that, but there
00:12:27.160 was never a point where the whole group was shouting, build, build the wall, uh, which is what Nathan
00:12:31.280 Phillips claimed. And, um, and then that's the incident. Okay. So that's it. That's what happened.
00:12:36.960 It was provoked by the black Israelites who were racially harassing a group of white kids.
00:12:44.560 Then the native American group comes in and tries to provoke things even further. It's clear that
00:12:49.820 that's what they're doing. Now there are some people claiming now that, Oh, you know, they were
00:12:53.960 trying to settle things down. And really, that's how, that's how you deescalate a situation. You come
00:12:58.380 into the middle of it and start banging drums in the kids' faces. That's deescalation. No, it's very
00:13:05.080 clear to me watching it that the, what Nathan Phillips was trying to do was provoke them even
00:13:10.580 more. And actually he failed. And if there was any, if there was any doubt about what Nathan
00:13:19.360 Phillips, what his motivation was, well, all we have to do is look at what he said after the fact,
00:13:24.880 because after this whole incident that again, he inserted himself into, he immediately went to the,
00:13:31.920 to the media and blatantly lied about the situation. He called the white kids beasts.
00:13:37.500 Okay. You're not, you're not going to, you're not hearing this in the media. He called them beasts
00:13:40.520 and said that they were, they were harassing the group of black people. He painted the white kids
00:13:46.420 as the aggressors and the instigators in the situation. He said that he heroically put himself
00:13:52.080 in between beasts and their prey. And then he said in a separate interview that the kids surrounded him
00:13:58.180 and that they wouldn't let him leave. And he felt threatened. Uh, they said, he said they were
00:14:03.020 chanting, build the wall at him. These are just lies. Okay. Uh, they are lies contradicted by the video
00:14:09.660 evidence. He is a liar. This is a hands up, don't shoot level lie. Um, Nathan Phillips apparently is a
00:14:18.000 scam artist who played half the country. A bunch of people just fell for it. The media ate it up,
00:14:28.520 reported it as fact uncritically. And these kids have been smeared all over the internet and cable
00:14:35.540 news because of it. Uh, the main kid that was featured in the video, the one smiling at Phillips
00:14:41.520 wrote a statement and explained his side of the story. Here's the crucial thing. His side of the story
00:14:46.900 is exactly what the video shows. His side of the story lines up with what you see in the video.
00:14:53.700 The other version, the verb version we got from Phillips does not line up with the video evidence
00:14:59.120 and never did. Um, and also Phillips version of the story as a secondary issue doesn't line up with
00:15:07.600 common sense. So it doesn't even make sense. And also it doesn't work with the video, but then we have
00:15:12.560 the video and it just so happens that the reports we're getting from the kids matches up. So I think
00:15:17.520 we basically know what happened here. Okay. So what, what did we, what have we learned from this? I
00:15:24.480 think, uh, most people probably have learned absolutely nothing, but if you are a more observant
00:15:31.080 sort of person, what, um, what, what could you learn from this incident? I think a few things.
00:15:37.500 Number one, uh, and this is very important. Your social media hot take can wait for a day or two.
00:15:46.100 Uh, we all seem to be under this very mistaken impression that the world will like stop rotating
00:15:53.480 on its axis. If we don't immediately offer our own two cents on every event, the moment it transpires.
00:16:01.800 And there are many otherwise intelligent people who have made fools of themselves,
00:16:07.440 myself included in other cases, because they felt the need to voice an opinion on an issue,
00:16:12.800 um, as soon as it came to their attention without waiting to actually find out what happened.
00:16:18.360 But there isn't much good that can come of that. There is, there isn't really any good that can come
00:16:24.380 out of a, an opinion that's just sort of dashed off and published in a hurry as if to meet some sort
00:16:31.120 of deadline, uh, because you want to be in that first wave of opinion about something that happened
00:16:39.120 there. There's just, there's nothing good that can come of it. The most you can hope for is something
00:16:43.800 is neutral, that it will just have no effect, but there's no, there's no scenario where some sort of
00:16:50.320 really good thing happens because even if you're right in that first wave of opinion, even if you
00:16:58.360 happen to take the right point of view, which will be really just a matter of luck because you didn't,
00:17:04.760 you had no idea what the, what the, all the facts were. So you just happened to get it right.
00:17:08.840 But even if you're right, your perspective is redundant and useless because everyone else is
00:17:14.340 already saying that. That's the stupid thing about the mass outrage, um, that you see on the
00:17:20.420 internet, aside from any of the ethical or moral concerns, which are primary, but secondary, what's even
00:17:28.740 the point? Like if, if you see a video like this, even if, let's just say that, that, um, the video was
00:17:34.960 not misrepresented and these kids really are guilty of being racist, uh, obnoxious jerks.
00:17:41.960 And, you know, 10 million people have already chimed in saying, well, they're racist and obnoxious.
00:17:48.960 Why do you even need to be, why do you need to be the, the 10 million and one voice? 10 million
00:17:56.520 other people have already said it. So you need to say it too. Yes. I also agree that they are obnoxious.
00:18:02.160 Hey everybody, just so you know, I agree with what 10 million people have already said.
00:18:07.700 So at best, you're just repeating what everyone else has said. So your, your opinion is useless.
00:18:13.060 At worst, you are going to be a contributing member of, uh, of, uh, of mass hysteria. You are
00:18:20.860 going to be part of a pitchfork mob. So why not, why not wait? Everyone can survive without your
00:18:27.780 opinion for a few hours. Uh, everyone can survive without your opinion forever and without mine.
00:18:33.460 That's the other thing. None of our opinions actually matter that much. That's, I hate to,
00:18:38.240 I hate to be the one to break it to you, but you're, you've, you've never said anything on the
00:18:43.360 internet that really made that much of a difference. That's in me. I'm in the same camp. It's like,
00:18:47.520 nobody really cares that much anyway. Um, which just, which I'm not saying that it doesn't mean that
00:18:53.600 we should stop giving our, obviously I'm giving my opinion right now, but it doesn't mean we stop
00:18:57.700 giving our opinion, but it just means that you, you, we can all afford to wait for a minute
00:19:01.640 because it doesn't matter that much. Um, so you might as well hold off and, uh, uh, so that you
00:19:08.520 don't embarrass yourself. And also by the way, so that you don't participate in the defamation of an
00:19:14.080 innocent person accidentally. So there is no downside to taking your time before offering a point of
00:19:20.980 view. There is enormous downside to jumping the gun. Second thing. Uh, and you know, it's unfortunate
00:19:28.120 that this even needs to be said, or that this is a lesson that needs to be learned by anyone, by anyone,
00:19:32.140 but, but white teenage boys are not evil. Okay. Again, like I said, I'm not spiking the football.
00:19:40.820 I've spoken too soon on many other occasions, but I held my tongue on this one when I first heard about it,
00:19:49.280 mainly because I know that, that white teenage boys don't generally behave like the villains in
00:19:57.700 some sort of socially conscious cartoon. Okay. They're not cartoon villains. Maybe you'll come
00:20:03.560 across a white, a white guy, a white teenage boy here or there who does really act like that, but,
00:20:10.280 but most of them are not. And what are the chances that you're going to have a whole school filled
00:20:18.140 with racist sociopaths who all happen to be, you know, they all went on a field trip together.
00:20:22.860 Well, what are the chances of that? It just, it seems like very unlikely. Um, but a lot of people
00:20:29.620 had no problem accepting the narrative that was first presented because they really do think,
00:20:34.940 or at least want to think that white boys carry on this way routinely. Um, and these are mostly the
00:20:42.660 same people who ate up all the rumors about Kavanaugh because they wanted to believe they
00:20:49.240 desperately wanted to believe that privileged white teenagers go around casually gang raping women
00:20:55.220 for sport. But again, with that, it was, it was, yes, I'm, there are white teenage boys out there who
00:21:03.260 are that evil. Um, but the idea that you would have a whole group of teen teenage boys who coordinate
00:21:13.820 with each other to drug and rape women. It's just, it's not impossible, but that is a remarkable claim.
00:21:23.100 Um, which would require some kind of really compelling evidence with Kavanaugh. There was no evidence
00:21:32.460 and with this, uh, with this most recent incident with the teenagers, there was a little bit of
00:21:38.140 evidence, but the evidence didn't line up with the claim. Um, so these false narratives, you know,
00:21:45.320 they tell us nothing about white teenage boys, about young white men. They do tell us a lot about
00:21:51.340 the members of the pitchfork mob. Namely, it tells us that these people, the people in the pitchfork mob,
00:21:57.420 they hate white men, hate them, especially young ones and especially Christian ones.
00:22:04.380 And that's why, um, they were so eager to jump on this because this is really, this shows you,
00:22:09.940 this is what they think of a, of a, of a young white man. This is what they think a young white man is.
00:22:18.380 So they heard this story about the Covington kids and they thought to themselves, oh yeah, well, sure.
00:22:22.600 That's exactly what white teenage boys do all the time. And that's why it's, it's been, it's been
00:22:29.820 pretty incredible over the last 24 hours or so, as this, as the full story has emerged, as it's become
00:22:35.840 clear that, um, that this was a false narrative, that Nathan Phillips lied and so on, there had still
00:22:43.360 been plenty of people who are clinging, who are acknowledging that, um, that there's more to the
00:22:49.220 story now, but they're still clinging to their initial reaction, um, or at least justifying their
00:22:56.760 initial reaction on the, in fact, just to, to quote here, there was someone, uh, one person on Twitter
00:23:02.380 said that, um, you know, she said her reaction, she had that reaction because, um, the, the sight of that
00:23:11.740 face, talking about one of the teens, the teenage boy who was smiling, she said, the sight of that
00:23:17.160 face caused a visceral reaction. So she's admitting that just the sight of a, of a young white man's
00:23:25.580 face is so repulsive to her and so offensive that she can't help but defame and slander him. It's just,
00:23:33.280 it's a, it is a knee jerk reaction. It's a reflex. She's saying that tells you a lot about her.
00:23:40.400 It tells you absolutely nothing about the, um, about the boys in question though.
00:23:46.200 Third thing we can learn is that the media really is the enemy of the people. Uh, I think Trump was
00:23:52.840 right about that. The news media is the enemy of the people, certain types of people anyway, maybe
00:23:58.140 that's where he got it wrong. He said the people, um, but not all people, only certain types of people,
00:24:03.940 because if you happen to be a member of the wrong demographic, the media will eagerly spread
00:24:10.280 lies about you. They will destroy your life. They will send the mob to your front door. They will
00:24:15.120 try to get you kicked out of school, kicked out of your job. They'll incite threats against your
00:24:18.820 family. They will tear you to pieces if you are a member of the wrong sort of demographic group
00:24:24.660 and you, and you come to their attention. They will not hesitate to do that to you. So what else can
00:24:32.800 we call them, but enemies? I mean, this certainly isn't how friends or allies behave last I checked.
00:24:40.380 So I am a white Christian conservative man. They are obviously my enemy, not because I want them to
00:24:47.520 be. I'm not saying, or maybe I should rephrase it. I am their enemy and they have made that completely
00:24:55.000 clear. If there was any kind of video or anything that gave them a video like this or any kind of video
00:25:01.320 that gave them, uh, an excuse, a reason, the ability to destroy my life, they would not hesitate to do
00:25:09.340 it. But if I was a member of a different demographic group, uh, or if my politics were a little bit
00:25:16.080 different, they would hesitate. So I am there. They see me as an enemy. There's just, there's no getting
00:25:23.180 around that. And here's the fourth thing. And this is really important. Um, this is less of a lesson
00:25:28.860 and more of a warning. Somebody is going to get killed. Okay. It's only a matter of time before a
00:25:38.520 victim of one of these media led smear campaigns winds up dead. It's going to happen. Um, and what,
00:25:46.660 what, what, what will the inciters and orchestrators of the outrage mob say then? What are they going to
00:25:52.460 say? Are they going to say, Oh, we had no idea it would come to this. Well, yes, you did. When you
00:25:58.200 put a person's name and face out there and you tell the world these outlandish, outlandish lies
00:26:04.960 about them, what do you think is going to happen? You are basically lighting a match in a forest full
00:26:11.220 of dry dead leaves. And if somebody finally gets burned, that's your fault. And I can only hope when
00:26:20.580 that terrible day comes that at least a few of the smear merchants will end up in jail because this
00:26:25.620 is, you know, this is incitement. This is not free speech. And in the meantime, and hopefully to stave
00:26:33.920 off this, this very tragic, but I think inevitable eventuality, we need some, you know, there need to
00:26:41.120 be repercussions, which means that because unfortunately most of the people who are targeted in these
00:26:47.720 situations like these, like these school kids, they don't have a lot of resources. All right. These
00:26:53.400 are not, these are not necessarily going to be millionaires. So there need to be ethical and
00:27:01.040 generous lawyers who are willing to jump in and, and come to the defense of the victims pro bono
00:27:06.840 and sue the defamers and inciters into oblivion. News outlets that run defamatory and libelous reports
00:27:14.720 about innocent people should face severe consequences. Celebrities like Kathy Griffin,
00:27:20.400 who encouraged her fans to retaliate against these boys, encourage them to dox him, which is,
00:27:28.560 you know, dig up, uh, private information about him and put it out there on the internet, invade his
00:27:33.480 privacy, uh, influential, powerful people who do stuff like that. They should be bankrupted by lawsuits.
00:27:40.300 Um, not, as I said, this has nothing to do with free speech. This is libel. It's, this is incitement.
00:27:49.160 It's illegal. And that's how it should be treated. Um, and if we don't start treating it that way,
00:27:56.820 you know, things are, things are going to get really bad and there are going to be very serious
00:28:01.660 consequences. Uh, I should say permanent consequences for somebody one of these days.
00:28:07.820 All right. Um, I didn't want to, I wanted to mention this very quickly as we, we spent a lot
00:28:17.520 of last week talking about that Gillette ad, which was, um, insulting to, to men. So this is kind of
00:28:26.720 in the same vein. This is all, it's all part of the same, part of the same theme. Um, but a watch
00:28:32.800 company, I was, I was waiting. I knew that some company would do this. I was waiting. I didn't know
00:28:36.320 which company would be the first. I've never heard of this company. Eggert Watch Company put out
00:28:41.240 an ad on YouTube, um, responding to that infamous Gillette ad. And, uh, I think it's pretty good.
00:28:47.860 Here it is.
00:28:48.320 What is a man? Is a man brave? Is a man a hero? Is a man, is a man a protector?
00:29:18.320 Naughty side. Is a man, is a man? Is a man, is
00:29:39.660 a man disposable?
00:29:44.200 As a man broken, is a man trying.
00:30:13.640 We see the good in men.
00:30:26.440 Okay, I mean, I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this because I've said plenty.
00:30:39.740 I said probably way more than enough about an ad about a company that makes razors.
00:30:47.040 So I'll say I like that ad, and you see very clearly the difference there.
00:30:51.340 Building men up, building up their customer base, which is a smart marketing idea, but
00:30:59.580 just in general, building men up, a positive message.
00:31:03.440 That's also encouraging and challenging.
00:31:05.840 Saying, you know, this is what a man is.
00:31:10.760 A man is courageous.
00:31:12.600 A man's a hero.
00:31:13.540 A man sacrifices, right?
00:31:15.020 Which is also a challenge to us as men.
00:31:23.000 Now, personally, I don't think that, I don't feel like I need to be built up or challenged
00:31:29.940 by commercials regardless.
00:31:32.260 But I do appreciate commercials that do it well and have a positive tone, and that's
00:31:37.440 what you find there.
00:31:38.140 So there's a challenge there, but it's in a positive context, saying this is what a man
00:31:43.040 is, and so if you're a man, that's how you should be.
00:31:47.280 But the thing is, they don't need to say that last part.
00:31:50.020 They don't need to say the part of, this is what you should do.
00:31:53.120 That's already implied through the kind of inspirational message.
00:31:58.640 So I thought that was great.
00:32:00.400 All right.
00:32:02.080 So I've decided that I'm going to try and go to the mailbag, the inbox, I'll call it,
00:32:08.080 just to be unique.
00:32:10.240 I'll go to the inbox every show, if I remember to anyway, just to give more people kind of
00:32:15.480 a chance to chime in and participate.
00:32:17.400 So if you want to send an email to me to give your opinion or ask a question or whatever,
00:32:22.560 send an email to mattwalshshow at gmail.com.
00:32:26.680 And also, if you have inquiries about speaking engagements or media requests or anything,
00:32:30.300 also mattwalshshow at gmail.com.
00:32:32.820 Okay.
00:32:33.060 So let me check.
00:32:34.240 I got a lot of messages and things over the weekend.
00:32:38.480 I'll check the inbox.
00:32:39.760 Jennifer says, Matt, wanted to let you know you are ugly inside and out.
00:32:46.100 Jennifer, I thank you for that valuable feedback.
00:32:48.580 Rebecca says, hi, Matt.
00:32:49.500 I love listening to your opinions.
00:32:50.540 I always look forward to a new video of yours to come out.
00:32:53.100 I'm a sophomore in an all-girls Catholic high school, and many of my friends, teachers,
00:32:57.880 and even priests have made comments implying or outright saying that they are against organized
00:33:02.960 religion.
00:33:03.840 Could you make a video defending organized religion, especially the Catholic Church, from
00:33:07.180 such criticism?
00:33:08.660 Thank you.
00:33:10.980 Well, Rebecca, thanks.
00:33:12.140 I have spoken about this in detail.
00:33:13.940 I've written about it other places, so I'm not going to go into, you know, you could find
00:33:19.180 that if you Google it, I think.
00:33:21.400 I will say that the backlash against so-called organized religion is the result of many things,
00:33:26.960 I think.
00:33:27.940 But primarily, it's shallow thinking, especially if you have a priest who's against organized
00:33:34.380 religion when he's a member of one.
00:33:36.120 But really, for anyone, for any Christian who says, oh, you know, I don't like organized
00:33:40.940 religion.
00:33:41.600 It's relationship, not religion.
00:33:43.620 If these folks stop to think about what they're saying for just a minute, they would realize
00:33:48.940 that it doesn't make any sense.
00:33:50.140 Because religion in this context means, by definition, a belief in and worship of a supernatural
00:33:57.200 being.
00:33:57.900 Now, you can have religions without supernatural beings, but if there is a supernatural being
00:34:04.120 and you worship that being, that's a religion.
00:34:07.460 That's what a religion is, okay?
00:34:08.920 So, if Christianity is a religion, you can't say, well, it's not a religion.
00:34:13.600 Yes, it absolutely...
00:34:14.940 You may as well claim that an elephant isn't a mammal.
00:34:18.220 No, an elephant is many other things as well, but it is definitely a mammal.
00:34:22.160 You can't just come up with a new definition for it.
00:34:24.520 Christianity is absolutely, by definition, a religion.
00:34:29.260 So, the only question is, will it be an organized religion or a disorganized one?
00:34:35.560 Those are the only two options.
00:34:37.300 There is no option of Christianity not being a religion, because if you take the religion
00:34:41.560 out of Christianity, then you're taking the worship of a supernatural being out of Christianity.
00:34:46.340 So, then you've just taken Christianity out of Christianity.
00:34:49.660 So, it's going to be a religion.
00:34:51.100 Will it be organized or will it be disorganized?
00:34:55.440 So, someone who says, I don't like organized religion, though I'm a Christian, what they're
00:34:58.980 really saying is, I prefer a more disorganized, chaotic, confused version of Christianity,
00:35:06.860 which, you know, I'm not really sure I see the plus side to that.
00:35:13.140 And, in fact, that is sort of what we have in American culture right now.
00:35:18.520 We have a very disorganized, fractured into a million pieces kind of Christianity where,
00:35:25.300 you know, everyone believes is kind of making it up as they go along, makes up their own
00:35:30.660 doctrines on the fly.
00:35:31.780 So, that is what a disorganized Christianity looks like, and there is nothing positive
00:35:37.240 to be said about it.
00:35:42.000 Chris writes, hi, Matt.
00:35:43.580 I wanted to share something with you in regards to your thoughts on the Gillette ad.
00:35:46.260 First off, I agree with you 100%.
00:35:47.800 The ad was an insult.
00:35:48.740 I found it very offensive.
00:35:49.720 My wife disagreed and told me it was fine to call out all these bad things so men can behave
00:35:53.660 correctly.
00:35:54.500 I explained to her that there's nothing wrong with saying these behaviors need to stop,
00:35:58.180 but the ad made it seem like the majority of men brush off this stuff with boys will be
00:36:02.480 boys, when most men I know have never even said that phrase.
00:36:07.100 Now, here's the interesting part.
00:36:08.440 Today, I was coaching my son's baseball team, and my older son accidentally hurt another boy
00:36:12.580 while playing around.
00:36:13.880 My son immediately apologized, and I apologized to the mother.
00:36:17.880 The mother was very understanding and then said, boys will be boys.
00:36:21.480 It was then that it hit me.
00:36:22.540 It wasn't that I never heard that statement before.
00:36:25.000 It was that I've mostly heard it from women in my lifetime.
00:36:28.180 Immediately after the game, I told my wife what happened and explained again why the
00:36:31.480 ad was hurtful to men.
00:36:32.380 The majority of the time, it's women who say the phrase, which is, I thought that was
00:36:39.080 interesting because when I thought about it, and as I said last week, this is a phrase
00:36:43.740 that I very rarely hear anyone say unironically, and I never have ever heard anyone say it to
00:36:50.200 justify some clearly wrong behavior in a boy.
00:36:53.500 But of the times when I've heard it used in a sincere way, it is very often women who
00:37:00.740 say it, and justifiably so, because usually boys will be boys just has to do with boys
00:37:06.560 kind of roughhousing and being active and energetic and that sort of thing.
00:37:14.240 Kevin says, what's it like being an uneducated bigot?
00:37:17.060 I don't know, Kevin.
00:37:17.900 You tell me.
00:37:18.440 Jordan writes, Matt, on the Covington Catholic School Kids issue, you may be right that the
00:37:22.880 issue was misconstrued.
00:37:24.280 You may be right that Phillips lied, but still, they were disrespectful and obnoxious, and
00:37:28.920 they deserve the criticism.
00:37:30.680 I feel like you're just trying to be a contrarian by defending them.
00:37:33.520 Lost some respect for you today, and I say this as a fan.
00:37:40.160 Disrespectful and obnoxious.
00:37:41.200 Now, you tell me, what's the protocol here?
00:37:44.760 What are they supposed to do?
00:37:46.860 These kids, again, they were just standing there.
00:37:49.480 They're being harassed and verbally assaulted by this black radical group.
00:37:57.240 And then this Native American group marches in and starts playing a drum in their face.
00:38:02.180 How are you supposed to react?
00:38:05.100 When I looked at that video, you know the main thing I saw on the faces of these kids?
00:38:08.580 And there's been a lot of, a lot of people have had a lot to say about the facial expressions
00:38:13.060 of these white kids, especially the one, the main one featured in the video, and how he's
00:38:18.380 smiling and everything.
00:38:19.460 And people are making a lot out of that.
00:38:21.240 But the main thing that I see is they're just, they're perplexed.
00:38:25.320 What I see is confusion.
00:38:27.740 They don't know what the hell is going on.
00:38:29.580 And they're just, so they're kind of, it's a nervous sort of laughter.
00:38:33.560 It's the kind of thing you do where you're like, okay, it was that kind of smile.
00:38:40.260 As in, why is this guy coming in here and playing the drum in my face exactly?
00:38:44.180 Who are these people over here shouting all this stuff about, about, you know, it was,
00:38:50.660 they were confused.
00:38:52.280 So how are you supposed to react?
00:38:54.280 If you were in that exact situation, Jordan, and, but you had never heard of this before,
00:39:02.400 so you weren't prepared for it, what would you do?
00:39:05.260 Were they supposed to lie down in the fetal position?
00:39:07.520 Were they supposed to bow down and in worship?
00:39:11.200 I mean, what are they supposed to do?
00:39:12.860 And I will, I will also say that I believe completely in respecting your elders, but this
00:39:18.420 guy, it appears to me, was trying to provoke these kids.
00:39:20.780 And then he went and turned around, called them beasts and lied about them.
00:39:24.460 So this is not a man who is worthy of very much respect.
00:39:28.980 Because, you know, you can, you can lose your right to respect.
00:39:33.120 And when you lie and slander and defame somebody and try to manipulate and coerce a situation
00:39:38.940 and all that, you just, you're, you're, you're just not worthy of that much respect.
00:39:42.640 I'm sorry.
00:39:43.360 It's got nothing to do with you being native Americans.
00:39:45.200 It just has to do with you being a liar.
00:39:49.000 And finally, Mitchell writes, Matt, I saw you kissing Tom Brady's butt on Twitter.
00:39:53.680 Not literally.
00:39:54.580 You didn't see that.
00:39:55.560 I thought I admired you, but now I have to reconsider.
00:39:57.880 Worst take I've ever seen.
00:39:59.300 Brady is an overrated cheater.
00:40:01.200 Look, I'm sorry.
00:40:01.920 I hate the Patriots with a passion and I don't like Tom Brady, but what Tom Brady is doing,
00:40:09.240 no player in the NFL has ever done anything like this.
00:40:12.980 This is, this is the greatest NFL player to ever play the game without a doubt.
00:40:18.960 There's not even a discussion anymore.
00:40:20.520 There's no one else who you could possibly put in this category because no other NFL player
00:40:26.840 dominated to this extent for two decades.
00:40:30.940 Now, some of the other great QBs you can think of were very dominant for, you know, seven or
00:40:37.640 eight years, sometimes a decade, but two decades.
00:40:40.920 Tom Brady came into the league, I think in 2003, it's now 2019.
00:40:44.780 That's almost two entire decades.
00:40:46.980 And he's going to his, uh, to yet another Superbowl.
00:40:50.420 Um, so to, to be this good for this long against this level of competition.
00:40:57.780 Now you might, I know you might say the AFC East is a pretty weak division and it is, but
00:41:02.080 just in general in the NFL, the athletes are so good.
00:41:05.700 Um, so everyone you're playing against is really, really good these days.
00:41:09.260 It's not like, it's not like the NFL in the sixties when, uh, you'd be playing a bunch
00:41:14.200 of, uh, against a bunch of just sort of like ordinary dad type people.
00:41:19.120 Um, no, these days, these are just athletic machines that you're playing against.
00:41:24.660 And so for Tom Brady to be this good for that long, it's, it is the only other professional
00:41:30.360 athlete that is maybe as impressive as Tom Brady is, uh, LeBron James, who again, there's
00:41:38.000 really no discussion there anymore.
00:41:39.620 Um, he's obviously the best basketball player to ever, ever play the game.
00:41:44.540 And I'm sure we can all agree on that.
00:41:48.060 We'll leave it there.
00:41:48.900 Thanks for watching everybody.
00:41:49.980 Thanks for listening.
00:41:51.060 Uh, Godspeed.
00:41:58.420 Today on the Ben Shapiro show, Buzzfeed's big Trump scoop implodes the media botcha hit
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