The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 180 - The Despicable Campaign Against Covington Catholic Boys

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, a group of Catholic schoolboys have been hideously defamed and

00:00:05.180 slandered and smeared all over the internet and the media. We are going to sort through this issue

00:00:10.820 and figure out who the real bad guys are in this situation. Also, a company responds to that stupid 1.00

00:00:17.320 Gillette ad with an ad of their own, which I think is pretty fantastic. And finally, 1.00

00:00:21.920 I'll answer some of your emails today on the Matt Walsh Show.

00:00:30.000 Hello and welcome, everybody. I missed you terribly since we last spoke. So thank you for

00:00:35.800 coming back here again. Hey, remember one thing really quickly, if you're watching on Facebook

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00:00:52.400 lots of other great content as well. Okay, I want to get to a story that just absolutely

00:00:58.920 infuriates me. I can't tell you how angry I am by this. I've just been like stewing over it for

00:01:07.420 the last 24 hours. If you were on social media at all this weekend, you probably already heard about

00:01:12.880 it. If you were not on social media, maybe you didn't hear about it. And also, if you weren't on

00:01:16.920 social media this weekend, I think that you made a very good choice, a choice that I wish that I had

00:01:21.660 made. So the story revolves around a bunch of kids from Covington Catholic High School in Covington,

00:01:31.500 Kentucky. They were in DC for the March for Life, which of course happened on Friday. And there was

00:01:36.600 a great turnout for that, by the way. You're not going to hear about that from the media. We heard

00:01:42.500 plenty about this incident that we'll talk about, but very little about the hundreds and hundreds of

00:01:46.840 thousands of people that were marching for the unborn the day before. So these kids, they were

00:01:52.160 in DC for the March for Life on Friday. And then on Saturday, they were supposed to board their buses

00:01:58.460 and go back to Kentucky. So they were in downtown again, apparently waiting for their bus so they

00:02:04.620 could board and go home. Now, that's when the incident occurred. And the incident, according to the

00:02:12.520 initial media reports, involved only these kids and a group of Native Americans led by a guy named

00:02:18.980 Nathan Phillips. And the Native Americans were in DC for apparently an indigenous people's march,

00:02:24.500 which was happening the day after the March for Life. The original story went viral on Saturday.

00:02:30.340 And it was that the kids randomly swarmed this group of Native Americans and started berating and

00:02:40.060 heckling them and mocking them and taunting and threatening them, not letting them leave while the

00:02:46.880 Native Americans were simply just playing the drums and singing a spiritual song. So this was just a, 0.97

00:02:52.600 according to the initial story, which went viral, this was a straightforward, blatant case of,

00:02:59.760 you know, privileged white boys acting in an outlandishly racist manner. And that's what millions of

00:03:08.260 people believed. That's what the media reported. That's what many prominent folks on both sides of

00:03:13.760 the political aisle said. But I'll tell you, when I first heard the story, and look, this is not,

00:03:23.000 I'm not like spiking the football because a lot of people got this wrong and I didn't kind of thing.

00:03:27.680 I'm just saying, you know, here was my thought process, okay? Well, I did, I went online briefly on

00:03:33.700 Saturday. I heard about this story and my first thought was, uh, what? You know, it just, it didn't

00:03:41.620 make sense to me. Um, it didn't sound believable. I'm not saying that it sounded impossible, but it

00:03:47.640 didn't sound believable or necessarily plausible that a group of Catholic high school boys would

00:03:53.900 just randomly start berating Native Americans for no reason. That's the kind of thing that you think

00:04:00.500 is plausible. If you have a cartoonish idea of human nature and especially of white teenage boys, 0.91

00:04:06.340 but maybe it's because I used to be a white teenage boy. Um, and, uh, so I can think back to then and

00:04:15.160 it's just, I can't imagine like you're in DC with a bunch of your friends and then you see some Native 1.00

00:04:20.620 Americans over there and you say, Hey, let's go over there and taunt them guys. Come on. Hey fellas, 0.97

00:04:25.500 let's go do something racist. Um, that's just, it doesn't re I'm not saying that's impossible that

00:04:32.180 that could happen. It's just, it's just seems very, very unlikely. That's just not how people act.

00:04:38.660 Right. Uh, but there was allegedly video of the incident, uh, video that shows that's what the media

00:04:48.100 said. The media said the video shows high school boys harassing Native Americans. And, um, the video

00:04:56.420 was a short clip. It turns out of a much longer piece of footage. Of course, the longer piece of

00:05:02.260 footage didn't, didn't surface magically until like 24 hours later after the kids already had already

00:05:06.960 been getting death threats and were facing possible expulsion and had been denounced, um, hither and

00:05:12.660 beyond. So let me show you, this is what the short clip looked like. This is, this is the, the clip

00:05:18.700 that most people saw on Saturday and that engendered all of this outrage. Here it is.

00:05:33.560 I'm so good.

00:05:34.560 Okay. So a lot of people saw that video out of context and concluded that it definitely shows

00:06:00.780 high school boys harassing Native Americans. Um, I watched it on Saturday when there was,

00:06:08.900 well, there's footage. So I, I watched it and I, I didn't really, I didn't see it. I didn't see what

00:06:14.480 everyone was claiming even out of context. It just, I didn't see, it looks weird. It looks strange.

00:06:20.700 It looks like the kind of video that screams out of context. I mean, there might as well be a giant

00:06:28.140 neon sign in the background of the video saying, this is out of context because you see that and

00:06:35.540 you think there's gotta be more to that. Even if the, even if the boys are the bad guys here,

00:06:40.420 there's just, how did this even come up? What was the scenario where these two groups even met?

00:06:48.100 These are just obvious questions that people should ask. And very few people did. Um, also it was claimed

00:06:55.360 initially that the boys were chanting, build the wall at the Native Americans. Well, again, you watch 1.00

00:07:01.500 that clip of the video, you, they're not chanting that that's not, that's not in the video. Um, which

00:07:08.120 is, which should be a giant red flag, right? If, if there's a viral story saying that this or that

00:07:14.420 happened and Hey, there's a video to go with it and the video doesn't match up with the story.

00:07:20.220 Well, that's a red flag because it, again, it shows you that at the very least there's more to

00:07:26.780 this that didn't make it on the video. Um, so personally on Saturday I saw the video, I heard

00:07:33.380 the story. And so I just, I didn't say anything about it. I didn't, I didn't chime in. I gave no

00:07:37.540 opinion, uh, for or against the students because I had no idea what was going on. It seemed, you know,

00:07:42.940 it's possible that the kids were in the wrong, uh, but it, or maybe they, they aren't, but I just,

00:07:48.860 I had no idea. So I didn't say anything. Um, but there were a lot of people who felt like they did

00:07:54.400 have a pretty good idea. So these kids were slandered and defamed and doxxed and, uh, threatened

00:07:59.320 for a full 24 hours. And they were even denounced by the mayor of their town, denounced by millions

00:08:06.560 of others, including very prominent, uh, powerful, influential people in the media and celebrities

00:08:12.060 and so on. Before finally this full story emerges, a much longer video surfaced as usually happens

00:08:21.140 with these sorts of situations. Um, one of the longer videos is over an hour long and was shot

00:08:27.440 apparently by a member of a group called the black Hebrew Israelites. Now the black Hebrew Israelites 0.88

00:08:33.600 are a very important group in this whole situation, but nobody even heard about them until a day

00:08:40.820 later. And by the way, the, uh, the black Hebrew Israelites, the BHI will call them. They are

00:08:48.640 essentially cult members. They're radical fringe people who think that they're descendants of the

00:08:56.540 Israelites and, uh, they, they hate everyone. Okay. This is their whole shtick. They stand on street 1.00

00:09:01.080 corners and they shout slurs at random passersby. I've seen them myself downtown. I've been downtown and

00:09:06.600 seen these, uh, these people, you know, set up with their little display, just screaming at pedestrians

00:09:13.220 who were happened to be walking by, um, screaming offensive things oftentimes. So in the video,

00:09:19.200 their video, you hear them screaming insults at random. The video goes on for like an hour before

00:09:25.480 we even see the, uh, the students and they're screaming insults at random people for a while.

00:09:30.140 They even, they, they're even insulting native Americans. They call them, uh, idol worshipers,

00:09:35.000 totem pole worshipers, and these sorts of things. So they're insulting everyone. They're, 1.00

00:09:38.780 they're, they're shouting anti-gay slurs. I mean, these are, these are not, this is not the group

00:09:44.820 that, that you would think leftists would want to, um, would want to defend. Um, then finally,

00:09:52.940 this group of people, they set their sights on the white kids who were standing around waiting for the

00:09:57.860 bus, the Covington kids. And, uh, they, the, the black radicals start hurling insults at the kids, 0.95

00:10:05.720 calling them incest children, calling them crackers, uh, at other points, call them a future 0.99

00:10:11.980 school shooters, tell them they should go back to Europe. Um, they, um, as I said, they're using, 0.91

00:10:19.340 they're using anti-gay slurs, the F word, the, the gay slur F word. And so the kids

00:10:26.160 respond to this provocation by just kind of trying to drown out the slurs with, with laughter. And

00:10:36.720 they start doing these kinds of like pep rally style school cheers. And at one point, one of the

00:10:42.280 kids, I mean, you know, they're teenage boys. So one of the kids takes his shirt off and starts

00:10:46.340 kind of like dancing as if they're at a football, um, game or something like that. And so everyone,

00:10:51.700 they're, they're just, they all have smiles on their faces. They're doing their cheers, their school

00:10:54.800 cheers. Um, they're laughing and singing and sort of dancing, responding to the hate with positivity.

00:11:01.860 Now, this seems like if you're, you know, in that situation and you've got these people shouting

00:11:06.620 slurs at you, uh, that seems like a perfectly good way to respond. The point is they didn't respond

00:11:13.300 in kind. They didn't respond by shouting, uh, slurs, much less racial slurs back at the black Hebrew

00:11:22.980 Israelites. Instead, they just kind of, like I said, they try to drown it out. Um, this goes on for a 1.00

00:11:30.740 while until finally this native American group comes in. Uh, now remember the original story was that

00:11:39.920 the, the white kids, I guess, track down these native Americans, found them and surrounded them 0.87

00:11:46.640 and, and accosted them verbally. Um, but then you see the video and you see that the white kids are 0.93

00:11:53.440 in the process of being accosted, verbally accosted by the black Hebrew Israelites. And then the native 0.99

00:11:58.360 American group comes in and walks up to the white kids playing the drums in their faces. And while this

00:12:06.080 is happening, the black Israelites are still shouting slurs. Someone tells us that someone tells the kids 0.99

00:12:11.420 to go back to Europe and so on. Um, but the kids, they just continue their strategy of kind of keeping

00:12:17.040 it positive, staying above the fray. They're doing their school cheers. I never, I watched a video. I

00:12:22.100 watched the full video. I never heard anyone chant, build the wall. Maybe somebody said that, but there

00:12:27.160 was never a point where the whole group was shouting, build, build the wall, uh, which is what Nathan

00:12:31.280 Phillips claimed. And, um, and then that's the incident. Okay. So that's it. That's what happened.

00:12:36.960 It was provoked by the black Israelites who were racially harassing a group of white kids. 0.72

00:12:44.560 Then the native American group comes in and tries to provoke things even further. It's clear that 1.00

00:12:49.820 that's what they're doing. Now there are some people claiming now that, Oh, you know, they were

00:12:53.960 trying to settle things down. And really, that's how, that's how you deescalate a situation. You come

00:12:58.380 into the middle of it and start banging drums in the kids' faces. That's deescalation. No, it's very

00:13:05.080 clear to me watching it that the, what Nathan Phillips was trying to do was provoke them even

00:13:10.580 more. And actually he failed. And if there was any, if there was any doubt about what Nathan

00:13:19.360 Phillips, what his motivation was, well, all we have to do is look at what he said after the fact,

00:13:24.880 because after this whole incident that again, he inserted himself into, he immediately went to the,

00:13:31.920 to the media and blatantly lied about the situation. He called the white kids beasts. 0.98

00:13:37.500 Okay. You're not, you're not going to, you're not hearing this in the media. He called them beasts 0.97

00:13:40.520 and said that they were, they were harassing the group of black people. He painted the white kids 0.99

00:13:46.420 as the aggressors and the instigators in the situation. He said that he heroically put himself

00:13:52.080 in between beasts and their prey. And then he said in a separate interview that the kids surrounded him

00:13:58.180 and that they wouldn't let him leave. And he felt threatened. Uh, they said, he said they were

00:14:03.020 chanting, build the wall at him. These are just lies. Okay. Uh, they are lies contradicted by the video

00:14:09.660 evidence. He is a liar. This is a hands up, don't shoot level lie. Um, Nathan Phillips apparently is a 1.00

00:14:18.000 scam artist who played half the country. A bunch of people just fell for it. The media ate it up,

00:14:28.520 reported it as fact uncritically. And these kids have been smeared all over the internet and cable

00:14:35.540 news because of it. Uh, the main kid that was featured in the video, the one smiling at Phillips

00:14:41.520 wrote a statement and explained his side of the story. Here's the crucial thing. His side of the story

00:14:46.900 is exactly what the video shows. His side of the story lines up with what you see in the video.

00:14:53.700 The other version, the verb version we got from Phillips does not line up with the video evidence

00:14:59.120 and never did. Um, and also Phillips version of the story as a secondary issue doesn't line up with

00:15:07.600 common sense. So it doesn't even make sense. And also it doesn't work with the video, but then we have

00:15:12.560 the video and it just so happens that the reports we're getting from the kids matches up. So I think

00:15:17.520 we basically know what happened here. Okay. So what, what did we, what have we learned from this? I

00:15:24.480 think, uh, most people probably have learned absolutely nothing, but if you are a more observant

00:15:31.080 sort of person, what, um, what, what could you learn from this incident? I think a few things.

00:15:37.500 Number one, uh, and this is very important. Your social media hot take can wait for a day or two.

00:15:46.100 Uh, we all seem to be under this very mistaken impression that the world will like stop rotating

00:15:53.480 on its axis. If we don't immediately offer our own two cents on every event, the moment it transpires.

00:16:01.800 And there are many otherwise intelligent people who have made fools of themselves,

00:16:07.440 myself included in other cases, because they felt the need to voice an opinion on an issue,

00:16:12.800 um, as soon as it came to their attention without waiting to actually find out what happened.

00:16:18.360 But there isn't much good that can come of that. There is, there isn't really any good that can come

00:16:24.380 out of a, an opinion that's just sort of dashed off and published in a hurry as if to meet some sort

00:16:31.120 of deadline, uh, because you want to be in that first wave of opinion about something that happened

00:16:39.120 there. There's just, there's nothing good that can come of it. The most you can hope for is something

00:16:43.800 is neutral, that it will just have no effect, but there's no, there's no scenario where some sort of

00:16:50.320 really good thing happens because even if you're right in that first wave of opinion, even if you

00:16:58.360 happen to take the right point of view, which will be really just a matter of luck because you didn't,

00:17:04.760 you had no idea what the, what the, all the facts were. So you just happened to get it right.

00:17:08.840 But even if you're right, your perspective is redundant and useless because everyone else is

00:17:14.340 already saying that. That's the stupid thing about the mass outrage, um, that you see on the 0.99

00:17:20.420 internet, aside from any of the ethical or moral concerns, which are primary, but secondary, what's even 0.99

00:17:28.740 the point? Like if, if you see a video like this, even if, let's just say that, that, um, the video was

00:17:34.960 not misrepresented and these kids really are guilty of being racist, uh, obnoxious jerks. 0.99

00:17:41.960 And, you know, 10 million people have already chimed in saying, well, they're racist and obnoxious. 0.99

00:17:48.960 Why do you even need to be, why do you need to be the, the 10 million and one voice? 10 million

00:17:56.520 other people have already said it. So you need to say it too. Yes. I also agree that they are obnoxious.

00:18:02.160 Hey everybody, just so you know, I agree with what 10 million people have already said.

00:18:07.700 So at best, you're just repeating what everyone else has said. So your, your opinion is useless.

00:18:13.060 At worst, you are going to be a contributing member of, uh, of, uh, of mass hysteria. You are 0.98

00:18:20.860 going to be part of a pitchfork mob. So why not, why not wait? Everyone can survive without your

00:18:27.780 opinion for a few hours. Uh, everyone can survive without your opinion forever and without mine.

00:18:33.460 That's the other thing. None of our opinions actually matter that much. That's, I hate to,

00:18:38.240 I hate to be the one to break it to you, but you're, you've, you've never said anything on the

00:18:43.360 internet that really made that much of a difference. That's in me. I'm in the same camp. It's like,

00:18:47.520 nobody really cares that much anyway. Um, which just, which I'm not saying that it doesn't mean that

00:18:53.600 we should stop giving our, obviously I'm giving my opinion right now, but it doesn't mean we stop

00:18:57.700 giving our opinion, but it just means that you, you, we can all afford to wait for a minute

00:19:01.640 because it doesn't matter that much. Um, so you might as well hold off and, uh, uh, so that you

00:19:08.520 don't embarrass yourself. And also by the way, so that you don't participate in the defamation of an

00:19:14.080 innocent person accidentally. So there is no downside to taking your time before offering a point of

00:19:20.980 view. There is enormous downside to jumping the gun. Second thing. Uh, and you know, it's unfortunate

00:19:28.120 that this even needs to be said, or that this is a lesson that needs to be learned by anyone, by anyone,

00:19:32.140 but, but white teenage boys are not evil. Okay. Again, like I said, I'm not spiking the football.

00:19:40.820 I've spoken too soon on many other occasions, but I held my tongue on this one when I first heard about it,

00:19:49.280 mainly because I know that, that white teenage boys don't generally behave like the villains in

00:19:57.700 some sort of socially conscious cartoon. Okay. They're not cartoon villains. Maybe you'll come

00:20:03.560 across a white, a white guy, a white teenage boy here or there who does really act like that, but,

00:20:10.280 but most of them are not. And what are the chances that you're going to have a whole school filled

00:20:18.140 with racist sociopaths who all happen to be, you know, they all went on a field trip together. 0.94

00:20:22.860 Well, what are the chances of that? It just, it seems like very unlikely. Um, but a lot of people

00:20:29.620 had no problem accepting the narrative that was first presented because they really do think,

00:20:34.940 or at least want to think that white boys carry on this way routinely. Um, and these are mostly the 0.97

00:20:42.660 same people who ate up all the rumors about Kavanaugh because they wanted to believe they 0.99

00:20:49.240 desperately wanted to believe that privileged white teenagers go around casually gang raping women 0.99

00:20:55.220 for sport. But again, with that, it was, it was, yes, I'm, there are white teenage boys out there who 0.99

00:21:03.260 are that evil. Um, but the idea that you would have a whole group of teen teenage boys who coordinate

00:21:13.820 with each other to drug and rape women. It's just, it's not impossible, but that is a remarkable claim. 0.77

00:21:23.100 Um, which would require some kind of really compelling evidence with Kavanaugh. There was no evidence

00:21:32.460 and with this, uh, with this most recent incident with the teenagers, there was a little bit of

00:21:38.140 evidence, but the evidence didn't line up with the claim. Um, so these false narratives, you know,

00:21:45.320 they tell us nothing about white teenage boys, about young white men. They do tell us a lot about

00:21:51.340 the members of the pitchfork mob. Namely, it tells us that these people, the people in the pitchfork mob,

00:21:57.420 they hate white men, hate them, especially young ones and especially Christian ones. 0.86

00:22:04.380 And that's why, um, they were so eager to jump on this because this is really, this shows you, 0.98

00:22:09.940 this is what they think of a, of a, of a young white man. This is what they think a young white man is.

00:22:18.380 So they heard this story about the Covington kids and they thought to themselves, oh yeah, well, sure.

00:22:22.600 That's exactly what white teenage boys do all the time. And that's why it's, it's been, it's been 0.70

00:22:29.820 pretty incredible over the last 24 hours or so, as this, as the full story has emerged, as it's become

00:22:35.840 clear that, um, that this was a false narrative, that Nathan Phillips lied and so on, there had still

00:22:43.360 been plenty of people who are clinging, who are acknowledging that, um, that there's more to the

00:22:49.220 story now, but they're still clinging to their initial reaction, um, or at least justifying their

00:22:56.760 initial reaction on the, in fact, just to, to quote here, there was someone, uh, one person on Twitter

00:23:02.380 said that, um, you know, she said her reaction, she had that reaction because, um, the, the sight of that

00:23:11.740 face, talking about one of the teens, the teenage boy who was smiling, she said, the sight of that

00:23:17.160 face caused a visceral reaction. So she's admitting that just the sight of a, of a young white man's

00:23:25.580 face is so repulsive to her and so offensive that she can't help but defame and slander him. It's just,

00:23:33.280 it's a, it is a knee jerk reaction. It's a reflex. She's saying that tells you a lot about her.

00:23:40.400 It tells you absolutely nothing about the, um, about the boys in question though.

00:23:46.200 Third thing we can learn is that the media really is the enemy of the people. Uh, I think Trump was

00:23:52.840 right about that. The news media is the enemy of the people, certain types of people anyway, maybe

00:23:58.140 that's where he got it wrong. He said the people, um, but not all people, only certain types of people,

00:24:03.940 because if you happen to be a member of the wrong demographic, the media will eagerly spread

00:24:10.280 lies about you. They will destroy your life. They will send the mob to your front door. They will

00:24:15.120 try to get you kicked out of school, kicked out of your job. They'll incite threats against your

00:24:18.820 family. They will tear you to pieces if you are a member of the wrong sort of demographic group

00:24:24.660 and you, and you come to their attention. They will not hesitate to do that to you. So what else can

00:24:32.800 we call them, but enemies? I mean, this certainly isn't how friends or allies behave last I checked.

00:24:40.380 So I am a white Christian conservative man. They are obviously my enemy, not because I want them to 0.94

00:24:47.520 be. I'm not saying, or maybe I should rephrase it. I am their enemy and they have made that completely

00:24:55.000 clear. If there was any kind of video or anything that gave them a video like this or any kind of video

00:25:01.320 that gave them, uh, an excuse, a reason, the ability to destroy my life, they would not hesitate to do

00:25:09.340 it. But if I was a member of a different demographic group, uh, or if my politics were a little bit

00:25:16.080 different, they would hesitate. So I am there. They see me as an enemy. There's just, there's no getting

00:25:23.180 around that. And here's the fourth thing. And this is really important. Um, this is less of a lesson

00:25:28.860 and more of a warning. Somebody is going to get killed. Okay. It's only a matter of time before a

00:25:38.520 victim of one of these media led smear campaigns winds up dead. It's going to happen. Um, and what,

00:25:46.660 what, what, what will the inciters and orchestrators of the outrage mob say then? What are they going to

00:25:52.460 say? Are they going to say, Oh, we had no idea it would come to this. Well, yes, you did. When you

00:25:58.200 put a person's name and face out there and you tell the world these outlandish, outlandish lies

00:26:04.960 about them, what do you think is going to happen? You are basically lighting a match in a forest full

00:26:11.220 of dry dead leaves. And if somebody finally gets burned, that's your fault. And I can only hope when

00:26:20.580 that terrible day comes that at least a few of the smear merchants will end up in jail because this

00:26:25.620 is, you know, this is incitement. This is not free speech. And in the meantime, and hopefully to stave

00:26:33.920 off this, this very tragic, but I think inevitable eventuality, we need some, you know, there need to

00:26:41.120 be repercussions, which means that because unfortunately most of the people who are targeted in these

00:26:47.720 situations like these, like these school kids, they don't have a lot of resources. All right. These

00:26:53.400 are not, these are not necessarily going to be millionaires. So there need to be ethical and

00:27:01.040 generous lawyers who are willing to jump in and, and come to the defense of the victims pro bono

00:27:06.840 and sue the defamers and inciters into oblivion. News outlets that run defamatory and libelous reports

00:27:14.720 about innocent people should face severe consequences. Celebrities like Kathy Griffin,

00:27:20.400 who encouraged her fans to retaliate against these boys, encourage them to dox him, which is,

00:27:28.560 you know, dig up, uh, private information about him and put it out there on the internet, invade his

00:27:33.480 privacy, uh, influential, powerful people who do stuff like that. They should be bankrupted by lawsuits.

00:27:40.300 Um, not, as I said, this has nothing to do with free speech. This is libel. It's, this is incitement.

00:27:49.160 It's illegal. And that's how it should be treated. Um, and if we don't start treating it that way,

00:27:56.820 you know, things are, things are going to get really bad and there are going to be very serious

00:28:01.660 consequences. Uh, I should say permanent consequences for somebody one of these days.

00:28:07.820 All right. Um, I didn't want to, I wanted to mention this very quickly as we, we spent a lot

00:28:17.520 of last week talking about that Gillette ad, which was, um, insulting to, to men. So this is kind of

00:28:26.720 in the same vein. This is all, it's all part of the same, part of the same theme. Um, but a watch

00:28:32.800 company, I was, I was waiting. I knew that some company would do this. I was waiting. I didn't know

00:28:36.320 which company would be the first. I've never heard of this company. Eggert Watch Company put out

00:28:41.240 an ad on YouTube, um, responding to that infamous Gillette ad. And, uh, I think it's pretty good.

00:28:47.860 Here it is.

00:28:48.320 What is a man? Is a man brave? Is a man a hero? Is a man, is a man a protector?

00:29:18.320 Naughty side. Is a man, is a man? Is a man, is

00:29:39.660 a man disposable?

00:29:44.200 As a man broken, is a man trying.

00:30:13.640 We see the good in men.

00:30:26.440 Okay, I mean, I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this because I've said plenty.

00:30:39.740 I said probably way more than enough about an ad about a company that makes razors.

00:30:47.040 So I'll say I like that ad, and you see very clearly the difference there.

00:30:51.340 Building men up, building up their customer base, which is a smart marketing idea, but 0.96

00:30:59.580 just in general, building men up, a positive message.

00:31:03.440 That's also encouraging and challenging.

00:31:05.840 Saying, you know, this is what a man is. 0.61

00:31:10.760 A man is courageous.

00:31:12.600 A man's a hero.

00:31:13.540 A man sacrifices, right?

00:31:15.020 Which is also a challenge to us as men.

00:31:23.000 Now, personally, I don't think that, I don't feel like I need to be built up or challenged

00:31:29.940 by commercials regardless.

00:31:32.260 But I do appreciate commercials that do it well and have a positive tone, and that's

00:31:37.440 what you find there.

00:31:38.140 So there's a challenge there, but it's in a positive context, saying this is what a man

00:31:43.040 is, and so if you're a man, that's how you should be.

00:31:47.280 But the thing is, they don't need to say that last part.

00:31:50.020 They don't need to say the part of, this is what you should do.

00:31:53.120 That's already implied through the kind of inspirational message.

00:31:58.640 So I thought that was great.

00:32:00.400 All right.

00:32:02.080 So I've decided that I'm going to try and go to the mailbag, the inbox, I'll call it,

00:32:08.080 just to be unique.

00:32:10.240 I'll go to the inbox every show, if I remember to anyway, just to give more people kind of

00:32:15.480 a chance to chime in and participate.

00:32:17.400 So if you want to send an email to me to give your opinion or ask a question or whatever,

00:32:22.560 send an email to mattwalshshow at gmail.com.

00:32:26.680 And also, if you have inquiries about speaking engagements or media requests or anything,

00:32:30.300 also mattwalshshow at gmail.com.

00:32:32.820 Okay.

00:32:33.060 So let me check.

00:32:34.240 I got a lot of messages and things over the weekend.

00:32:38.480 I'll check the inbox. 0.98

00:32:39.760 Jennifer says, Matt, wanted to let you know you are ugly inside and out. 0.80

00:32:46.100 Jennifer, I thank you for that valuable feedback. 0.91

00:32:48.580 Rebecca says, hi, Matt.

00:32:49.500 I love listening to your opinions.

00:32:50.540 I always look forward to a new video of yours to come out.

00:32:53.100 I'm a sophomore in an all-girls Catholic high school, and many of my friends, teachers,

00:32:57.880 and even priests have made comments implying or outright saying that they are against organized

00:33:02.960 religion.

00:33:03.840 Could you make a video defending organized religion, especially the Catholic Church, from

00:33:07.180 such criticism?

00:33:08.660 Thank you.

00:33:10.980 Well, Rebecca, thanks.

00:33:12.140 I have spoken about this in detail.

00:33:13.940 I've written about it other places, so I'm not going to go into, you know, you could find

00:33:19.180 that if you Google it, I think.

00:33:21.400 I will say that the backlash against so-called organized religion is the result of many things,

00:33:26.960 I think.

00:33:27.940 But primarily, it's shallow thinking, especially if you have a priest who's against organized

00:33:34.380 religion when he's a member of one. 0.76

00:33:36.120 But really, for anyone, for any Christian who says, oh, you know, I don't like organized 0.82

00:33:40.940 religion.

00:33:41.600 It's relationship, not religion.

00:33:43.620 If these folks stop to think about what they're saying for just a minute, they would realize

00:33:48.940 that it doesn't make any sense.

00:33:50.140 Because religion in this context means, by definition, a belief in and worship of a supernatural

00:33:57.200 being.

00:33:57.900 Now, you can have religions without supernatural beings, but if there is a supernatural being

00:34:04.120 and you worship that being, that's a religion.

00:34:07.460 That's what a religion is, okay?

00:34:08.920 So, if Christianity is a religion, you can't say, well, it's not a religion.

00:34:13.600 Yes, it absolutely...

00:34:14.940 You may as well claim that an elephant isn't a mammal.

00:34:18.220 No, an elephant is many other things as well, but it is definitely a mammal.

00:34:22.160 You can't just come up with a new definition for it.

00:34:24.520 Christianity is absolutely, by definition, a religion.

00:34:29.260 So, the only question is, will it be an organized religion or a disorganized one?

00:34:35.560 Those are the only two options.

00:34:37.300 There is no option of Christianity not being a religion, because if you take the religion 1.00

00:34:41.560 out of Christianity, then you're taking the worship of a supernatural being out of Christianity.

00:34:46.340 So, then you've just taken Christianity out of Christianity. 0.64

00:34:49.660 So, it's going to be a religion. 0.62

00:34:51.100 Will it be organized or will it be disorganized?

00:34:55.440 So, someone who says, I don't like organized religion, though I'm a Christian, what they're

00:34:58.980 really saying is, I prefer a more disorganized, chaotic, confused version of Christianity, 0.95

00:35:06.860 which, you know, I'm not really sure I see the plus side to that.

00:35:13.140 And, in fact, that is sort of what we have in American culture right now.

00:35:18.520 We have a very disorganized, fractured into a million pieces kind of Christianity where, 0.95

00:35:25.300 you know, everyone believes is kind of making it up as they go along, makes up their own

00:35:30.660 doctrines on the fly.

00:35:31.780 So, that is what a disorganized Christianity looks like, and there is nothing positive 1.00

00:35:37.240 to be said about it.

00:35:42.000 Chris writes, hi, Matt.

00:35:43.580 I wanted to share something with you in regards to your thoughts on the Gillette ad.

00:35:46.260 First off, I agree with you 100%.

00:35:47.800 The ad was an insult.

00:35:48.740 I found it very offensive.

00:35:49.720 My wife disagreed and told me it was fine to call out all these bad things so men can behave

00:35:53.660 correctly.

00:35:54.500 I explained to her that there's nothing wrong with saying these behaviors need to stop,

00:35:58.180 but the ad made it seem like the majority of men brush off this stuff with boys will be

00:36:02.480 boys, when most men I know have never even said that phrase.

00:36:07.100 Now, here's the interesting part.

00:36:08.440 Today, I was coaching my son's baseball team, and my older son accidentally hurt another boy

00:36:12.580 while playing around.

00:36:13.880 My son immediately apologized, and I apologized to the mother.

00:36:17.880 The mother was very understanding and then said, boys will be boys.

00:36:21.480 It was then that it hit me.

00:36:22.540 It wasn't that I never heard that statement before.

00:36:25.000 It was that I've mostly heard it from women in my lifetime.

00:36:28.180 Immediately after the game, I told my wife what happened and explained again why the

00:36:31.480 ad was hurtful to men.

00:36:32.380 The majority of the time, it's women who say the phrase, which is, I thought that was 1.00

00:36:39.080 interesting because when I thought about it, and as I said last week, this is a phrase

00:36:43.740 that I very rarely hear anyone say unironically, and I never have ever heard anyone say it to

00:36:50.200 justify some clearly wrong behavior in a boy.

00:36:53.500 But of the times when I've heard it used in a sincere way, it is very often women who 0.99

00:37:00.740 say it, and justifiably so, because usually boys will be boys just has to do with boys

00:37:06.560 kind of roughhousing and being active and energetic and that sort of thing.

00:37:14.240 Kevin says, what's it like being an uneducated bigot?

00:37:17.060 I don't know, Kevin.

00:37:17.900 You tell me.

00:37:18.440 Jordan writes, Matt, on the Covington Catholic School Kids issue, you may be right that the

00:37:22.880 issue was misconstrued.

00:37:24.280 You may be right that Phillips lied, but still, they were disrespectful and obnoxious, and

00:37:28.920 they deserve the criticism.

00:37:30.680 I feel like you're just trying to be a contrarian by defending them.

00:37:33.520 Lost some respect for you today, and I say this as a fan. 0.96

00:37:40.160 Disrespectful and obnoxious.

00:37:41.200 Now, you tell me, what's the protocol here?

00:37:44.760 What are they supposed to do?

00:37:46.860 These kids, again, they were just standing there. 0.98

00:37:49.480 They're being harassed and verbally assaulted by this black radical group. 0.91

00:37:57.240 And then this Native American group marches in and starts playing a drum in their face. 0.99

00:38:02.180 How are you supposed to react?

00:38:05.100 When I looked at that video, you know the main thing I saw on the faces of these kids?

00:38:08.580 And there's been a lot of, a lot of people have had a lot to say about the facial expressions

00:38:13.060 of these white kids, especially the one, the main one featured in the video, and how he's

00:38:18.380 smiling and everything.

00:38:19.460 And people are making a lot out of that.

00:38:21.240 But the main thing that I see is they're just, they're perplexed.

00:38:25.320 What I see is confusion.

00:38:27.740 They don't know what the hell is going on.

00:38:29.580 And they're just, so they're kind of, it's a nervous sort of laughter.

00:38:33.560 It's the kind of thing you do where you're like, okay, it was that kind of smile.

00:38:40.260 As in, why is this guy coming in here and playing the drum in my face exactly?

00:38:44.180 Who are these people over here shouting all this stuff about, about, you know, it was,

00:38:50.660 they were confused.

00:38:52.280 So how are you supposed to react?

00:38:54.280 If you were in that exact situation, Jordan, and, but you had never heard of this before,

00:39:02.400 so you weren't prepared for it, what would you do?

00:39:05.260 Were they supposed to lie down in the fetal position?

00:39:07.520 Were they supposed to bow down and in worship?

00:39:11.200 I mean, what are they supposed to do?

00:39:12.860 And I will, I will also say that I believe completely in respecting your elders, but this

00:39:18.420 guy, it appears to me, was trying to provoke these kids.

00:39:20.780 And then he went and turned around, called them beasts and lied about them.

00:39:24.460 So this is not a man who is worthy of very much respect.

00:39:28.980 Because, you know, you can, you can lose your right to respect.

00:39:33.120 And when you lie and slander and defame somebody and try to manipulate and coerce a situation

00:39:38.940 and all that, you just, you're, you're, you're just not worthy of that much respect.

00:39:42.640 I'm sorry.

00:39:43.360 It's got nothing to do with you being native Americans. 0.99

00:39:45.200 It just has to do with you being a liar. 1.00

00:39:49.000 And finally, Mitchell writes, Matt, I saw you kissing Tom Brady's butt on Twitter. 1.00

00:39:53.680 Not literally. 0.98

00:39:54.580 You didn't see that.

00:39:55.560 I thought I admired you, but now I have to reconsider.

00:39:57.880 Worst take I've ever seen. 0.96

00:39:59.300 Brady is an overrated cheater. 0.91

00:40:01.200 Look, I'm sorry. 0.79

00:40:01.920 I hate the Patriots with a passion and I don't like Tom Brady, but what Tom Brady is doing,

00:40:09.240 no player in the NFL has ever done anything like this.

00:40:12.980 This is, this is the greatest NFL player to ever play the game without a doubt.

00:40:18.960 There's not even a discussion anymore.

00:40:20.520 There's no one else who you could possibly put in this category because no other NFL player

00:40:26.840 dominated to this extent for two decades.

00:40:30.940 Now, some of the other great QBs you can think of were very dominant for, you know, seven or

00:40:37.640 eight years, sometimes a decade, but two decades.

00:40:40.920 Tom Brady came into the league, I think in 2003, it's now 2019.

00:40:44.780 That's almost two entire decades.

00:40:46.980 And he's going to his, uh, to yet another Superbowl.

00:40:50.420 Um, so to, to be this good for this long against this level of competition.

00:40:57.780 Now you might, I know you might say the AFC East is a pretty weak division and it is, but

00:41:02.080 just in general in the NFL, the athletes are so good.

00:41:05.700 Um, so everyone you're playing against is really, really good these days.

00:41:09.260 It's not like, it's not like the NFL in the sixties when, uh, you'd be playing a bunch

00:41:14.200 of, uh, against a bunch of just sort of like ordinary dad type people.

00:41:19.120 Um, no, these days, these are just athletic machines that you're playing against.

00:41:24.660 And so for Tom Brady to be this good for that long, it's, it is the only other professional

00:41:30.360 athlete that is maybe as impressive as Tom Brady is, uh, LeBron James, who again, there's

00:41:38.000 really no discussion there anymore.

00:41:39.620 Um, he's obviously the best basketball player to ever, ever play the game.

00:41:44.540 And I'm sure we can all agree on that.

00:41:48.060 We'll leave it there.

00:41:48.900 Thanks for watching everybody.

00:41:49.980 Thanks for listening.

00:41:51.060 Uh, Godspeed.

00:41:58.420 Today on the Ben Shapiro show, Buzzfeed's big Trump scoop implodes the media botcha hit

00:42:03.320 on Christian high school students and the media try to target me with selective editing.

00:42:07.280 That's today on the Ben Shapiro show.

The Matt Walsh Show - January 21, 2019

Ep. 180 - The Despicable Campaign Against Covington Catholic Boys

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