00:00:30Today we're going to discuss one of the most horrifying murder cases in memory, and we don't
00:00:34often cover murder cases on the show unless the case has political implications of some kind.
00:00:39Outside of those kinds of cases, this is not a true crime podcast, and this murder case in
00:00:45particular is so awful, so dark, so totally unthinkable and ghastly that, frankly, I don't
00:00:52like to think about it and would therefore prefer not to talk about it. Yet the case does have
00:00:57implications, not merely political, but deeper than that. The murder itself, the reaction to it,
00:01:02the commentary on it, the defense that's being argued in court, all say something and something
00:01:08quite troubling about our culture. And that's why I've decided to spend at least one episode of the
00:01:12show discussing it. So Lindsay Clancy is a former labor and delivery nurse. Back in January of 2023,
00:01:20she sent her husband Patrick out of the house to run an errand at CVS and pick up food.0.98
00:01:25With Patrick out of the way, Clancy took her young children, Cora, age five, Dawson, age three, and Callan, eight months, into the basement, where she methodically strangled them each to death with exercise bands.
00:01:39Clancy then slashed her wrists and jumped out of a second-story window, sustaining serious injuries that left her paralyzed from the waist down.
00:01:46When her husband arrived, she told him the kids were in the basement. He ran downstairs to find them all dead.
00:01:52and later, according to her husband, Lindsay claimed that she had heard a voice commanding
00:01:57her to kill the children and then herself. Now, despite what the wannabe Nancy Drews are saying
00:02:04on TikTok, this is not exactly a whodunit. Lindsay Clancy confessed to the crime. Her guilt is
00:02:11self-evident and her attorneys in front of the jury aren't even attempting to argue that she
00:02:17didn't commit the crime. They've stipulated to all of the forensic evidence, which means they
00:02:21formally agree that all the evidence is real and legitimate and valid. Again, they are not trying
00:02:26to argue that she didn't do it. She did it. That is not being disputed by any rational person,
00:02:33though it is being disputed by plenty of irrational people, as we will see. Instead,
00:02:37the case is about whether Lindsay Clancy qualifies as not guilty by reason of insanity,
00:02:43specifically by reason of postpartum psychosis exacerbated by the medications that she was
00:02:48taking. This is a defense that should not exist as a matter of law. Once a woman brutally murders
00:02:55her own children, it doesn't matter what a therapist says about why she did it. It doesn't0.77
00:03:00matter how she felt. It doesn't matter if she was sad or anxious or indeed insane. She should be
00:03:07removed from society permanently as a matter of justice. If her defense is that she's so crazy1.00
00:03:13that she just can't help herself, that she had no choice but to strangle her own children to death,1.00
00:03:19and that's all the more reason to remove her from society permanently. It should not be
00:03:24controversial to say that a person who methodically executes three children, strangling each to death
00:03:30while the others watch in horror, is a person who must be punished to the fullest extent of the law,
00:03:36crazy or not, on medication or not. There are some things that you can do in life that once
00:03:43they've been done, preclude you from ever walking free again. These are actions that cry out to
00:03:51heaven for vengeance. Justice must be done. Punishment must be given. And if murdering
00:03:57three children, your own young helpless children, does not qualify as one of those sorts of actions,
00:04:05if it does not call for the most severe punishment, then nothing does.
00:04:11We should note that a successful insanity plea in the state of Massachusetts does not at all mean necessarily
00:04:19that the person who was found not guilty by reason of insanity will spend the rest of their life in a mental institution.
00:04:26You'll often hear people claim that there's no reason to get upset when a murderer is found not guilty by reason of insanity
00:04:32because they'll still be locked up in an institution for life.
00:12:28And as long as the insanity defense exists, it's the perfect loophole if you want to legalize post-birth abortion.
00:12:36Just bury the jury in nonsense, give it an air of legitimacy, bring in some psychiatrists to say a bunch of nonsense, a bunch of pseudo-scientific nonsense, and hope they acquit.
00:12:48And that's exactly what we're seeing right now with the Clancy case.
00:12:52Virtually all of the testimony to this point has been a morass of meaningless back and forth about the precise psychological symptoms that Clancy was demonstrating or not demonstrating when she spoke to her doctor.
00:13:04Take a look at this heated interaction on cross-examination between the defense attorney and Jennifer Tufts, who was one of Clancy's psychiatrists.
00:13:12We're going to try to get through this together because it illustrates exactly what this whole trial is really about. Watch.
00:18:05To a staggering degree, women are being prescribed SSRIs as a first line of defense against any problems they might be dealing with.
00:18:13And the results have not been good, to put it mildly.
00:18:16This is from the Institute for Family Studies.
00:18:17Quote, stay-at-home mothers are less likely to have experienced a major depressive episode, about two-thirds as likely, in fact, than women who are not stay-at-home moms.
00:18:2532% of stay-at-home mothers have taken a psychotherapeutic medication in the past year, while 38% of non-stay-at-home mothers have.
00:18:33By far, women who are not stay-at-home mothers are the most copious users of prescription pain relievers, tranquilizers, stimulants, or sedatives.
00:18:42So to restate, 32% of stay-at-home moms and 38% of working moms are on psychiatric meds.
00:18:50A third of all moms, working or not, are on some kind of psychotropic drug.
00:19:06And the numbers are nearly as bad for men when you look at that.
00:19:11As a side note, one thing to keep in mind when you see reports about alcohol use declining
00:19:16is not only that lots of people have swapped booze for weed,
00:19:20but also many more people are using psychiatric meds to calm themselves down and handle stress at the end of the day.
00:19:26We are not in any way even remotely a more sober society today than we were back when everybody was drinking booze.
00:19:34We traded one substance for myriad other substances that mess with your mind much more deeply and in ways that we don't even understand.
00:19:43And what's even more extraordinary about these numbers is that the doctors prescribing these psychoactive medications have no idea how the drugs work.
00:19:53Here's more testimony from Clancy's psychiatrist, for example.
00:19:58Would you agree with me that prior to telling her to stop the Zoloft,
00:20:03that one of the concerns that you had is that Zoloft affects anxiety and affects sleep,
00:20:07and you hope that it treats the underlying anxiety by balancing brain chemistry
00:28:32Now, what's absurd, or one of the many absurd things anyway, about all the Internet theories that this guy somehow committed the murders himself, and we'll get to that in a little bit, is that he's actually helping her case.
00:28:44I mean, if he really orchestrated the murder and framed her somehow, he'd obviously want her to take the fall.
00:28:49But in this case, he's helping her make the argument that the drugs made her do it.
00:28:54Separately, he talks about how normal she seemed at various points, including shortly before the murders.
00:46:37We cannot, none of these people should be allowed to vote.
00:46:42None of them should be allowed to be in the country.
00:46:46We can't do it. We can't share a country with these people.0.53
00:46:51Oh, this, this random guy talked to a nurse. He lit, he literally talked to a nurse guys.
00:46:57I talked to a nurse. Okay. I'll tell you what that I know. Discard everything that everyone
00:47:03else has said, like in court and all the forensics and all the detectives. No, I talked to a nurse,
00:47:08you guys. And the nurse literally said that the body was too cold. Hang on, everyone. Hang on.
00:47:17Stop the trial. Stop it. Shut it all down. This guy talked to a nurse. Hang on. Stop everything.
00:47:24Run into the courtrooms. Shut it all down, everybody. Your Honor, Your Honor, Your Honor.
00:47:29This, no, no, no, hang on a second. Hang on. This guy talked to a nurse. Yes, this unnamed nurse who
00:47:35spoke to this unknown guy on TikTok anonymously is a more reliable expert than every doctor,
00:47:40law enforcement officer, and every other expert involved in the trial.
00:47:45Why should we believe that? Who knows? Because, just because, this is very common on social
00:47:51media now, of course. The internet sleuths get together. They reject the theory of the case that
00:47:55all of the evidence points to. They concoct a new theory with much less evidence or none at all.
00:48:01And they assert that the new theory is somehow more credible,
00:48:05despite being based on evidence that is astronomically worse and less credible by every metric.
00:48:13Recently, our company's softball team lost the big game by one run. Then Dale tried to console
00:48:19us with the quote, winning isn't everything. Well, Dale and I are very different. I get early
00:48:26payout from Bet365. If my team goes up big, I get paid out instantly, even if they blow the lead
00:48:31later. Sound familiar, Dale? Thanks, Bet365. Must be 19 or older, Ontario only. Please play
00:48:37responsibly. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or the gambling of someone
00:48:40close to you, please go to connexontario.ca and see supply. Now, the thing is, when somebody jumps
00:48:45from a second-story window and sustains a spinal injury, as Clancy did. All kinds of things can go
00:48:49wrong in the body. You might lose your ability to shiver, for example. Your blood vessels might
00:48:53not be able to narrow and constrict. These are major ways that your body preserves heat when
00:48:57you're out in the cold. And before long, if you don't have those basic mechanisms, you get a lot
00:49:01colder than normal. Blood loss has the same effect. These are all things that I found from a little
00:49:06bit of research, but I am not an authority on the subject of how long it takes for a body to lose
00:49:10heat after somebody jumps out of a window. In fact, I never even thought about that question
00:49:15until this very moment. And the same is true for every TikTok detective. All of these dumbasses
00:49:23never even considered any of this until right now. They know nothing about it. They have no1.00
00:49:30relevant base of knowledge at all. And yet they suddenly know enough to dismiss every piece of
00:49:37evidence being presented in court, evidence the defense itself does not dispute. In fact,
00:49:42these TikTok detectives are so brilliant, they're such geniuses, that they apparently have a better
00:49:48understanding of who killed Lindsey Clancy's kids than Lindsey Clancy does. Because Lindsey Clancy
00:49:53again confessed. And there's a lot of that going around too, as you noticed. The Tyler Robinson
00:50:00case is an example that springs to everybody's mind. That's yet another case where the defendant
00:50:05confessed, admitted their own guilt, and yet the internet detectives believe that they are
00:50:11greater authorities on the defendant's guilt or innocence than the defendant himself.
00:50:18So in this case, the TikTok doctors have it all figured out. Even though there's been no
00:50:22testimony in this case to support their theory, they're confidently telling the audience that
00:50:26indeed the official narrative is impossible because the body was too cold. And the hysteria
00:50:31continues from there. Watch. Number three, Patrick claims that when he went to CVS, which is three
00:50:36minutes away from their house, that he called his wife, Lindsay, asked if it was okay to buy the
00:50:41off-brand of Laxifs because the name brand wasn't in stock. However, they've been showing us footage
00:50:46of the CVS and where he was standing, and it looks pretty stock to me, but whatever. But here's why
00:50:51this is interesting to me, because he claims that he talked on the phone with her about this, and
00:50:55she said that the off-brand was fine. Now, when she jumps out of the window from their room, her
00:50:59thyroid had been crushed and so she wasn't able to speak to them but somehow this man not only
00:51:04spoke to his wife on the phone about the laxatives but that when he found her outside he went up to
00:51:09her and said what happened and she responded with I tried to myself and then when he asked her where
00:51:14the kids she said another whole sentence and said the kids are in the basement her thyroid was
00:51:20crushed and she wasn't able to speak so how were you speaking to her in all of this another thing
00:51:24is that she only had a limited amount of time to do this because he was just going to the CVS to
00:51:28get food and back. So I find it hard to believe that during this limited amount of time she picked
00:51:32up the phone to talk to you about the laxative while she's trying to murder her three kids and
00:51:37herself. Another thing that didn't make sense to me about her being a certified nurse was something1.00
00:51:41that they're saying that she did was that when she went to cut her wrist that she cut horizontally.
00:51:46Now a nurse would know if they wanted to get the job done to do it vertically but hers were found
00:51:51horizontally. Once again it's giving someone that knows nothing about any of this. Now let's focus0.96
00:51:55a little bit more on her jumping out of the window and what that entailed. The main thing you need to0.80
00:51:59know is that this woman did not jump out the window, okay? She was dangled by her feet. I think
00:52:05this because of two different things. One, they were investigating the crime scene. They found
00:52:09these two blood spots on the side of the house. Didn't make sense at first, but when you picture
00:52:14Patrick dangling her by her legs out this window, it makes perfect sense where two blood spots would
00:52:19be on that wall if she's dangling. Number two, when they found her, her head was closest to the
00:52:24side of the house and her feet were the furthest from the house which wouldn't make sense if someone
00:52:28is like jumping out the window they would be head furthest away with their feet towards the house
00:52:33and also they would be on their stomach she was found on her back with her head closest to the
00:52:38house and that only makes sense if he was dangling her outside of the window another thing that's
00:52:42suspicious is that it shows that he sent an email out from his house at 5 24 p.m which doesn't make
00:52:49sense because he said he left his house at 5 15. how are you sending an email out also also they
00:52:55have nanny cams in this house but you guessed it nanny cams weren't working due to no wi-fi but
00:53:00that's weird because you must have had wi-fi to send your email out at 5 24 at your house it's
00:53:06not adding up patrick if none of that convinced you at all this man got married four months after
00:53:11this yeah and has a new baby already that's weird that's weird i was
00:53:19You know, what's weird is that you are able to breathe and talk.
00:53:23What's weird is that you're able to tie your shoes.
00:53:28And we want to dismiss this kind of thing, but like these videos have like millions of views, thousands of women watching them, like taking notes.
00:55:18And therefore, he's lying about everything.
00:55:21Again, this is not an argument the defense is making because it's absurd on its face.
00:55:27It doesn't prove that he actually saw that the item was in stock or that it was in stock at that moment he called.
00:55:32But she moves on from this point very quickly because she understands that if you think about it for five seconds, you'll realize it's total nonsense.
00:55:37She also claims at one point that because the husband's DNA was on the exercise bands that were used to strangle the kids, therefore he must have done it.
00:55:45Never mind the fact that it's a common household item that everybody was touching.
00:55:48His DNA could be found on most of the stuff in his house, probably, because it's his house.
00:55:53She moves on to claiming that there's no way Clancy could have confessed to her husband because her throat was crushed from the fall.
00:55:58But again, plenty of reasons why somebody who sustains a serious injury might be able to speak one minute and then be incapacitated afterwards.
00:58:14Again, accusing a man of murder without any evidence is despicable.1.00
00:58:17If you're watching this garbage content yourself, you are just as culpable as this vulture.0.99
00:58:25And I'm not even going to discuss her retarded theory about how the woman must have been dangling from the house because of the blood spots that were found on the outside wall.1.00
00:58:34Or if she jumped out of a window, she would have landed on her stomach.0.98