The Matt Walsh Show - September 15, 2026


Ep. 1839 - Household Debt Is Getting Out Of Hand. Here's Why It's At An All-Time High.

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00:00:52.880 It's one of the most common questions people have.
00:00:55.900 If the economy is doing so well based on every official metric, then why are there so many anecdotal indicators, which we all see in our day-to-day lives, that Americans are struggling financially?
00:01:08.660 If the stock market is near all-time highs, unemployment is low, everybody is extremely, one might say excessively well-fed, then to all outward appearances, we're doing pretty well as a country.
00:01:19.900 So why are so many people complaining about food prices and the cost of living and the difficulty of getting a job?
00:01:26.560 Has everyone gone insane? Have we become a nation of whiners unwilling to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps?
00:01:32.240 Are the numbers cooked? 0.68
00:01:34.120 Well, there has to be some explanation, but no one seems interested in providing one.
00:01:37.680 So just to give you a sense of how bizarre this particular dilemma has become,
00:01:41.720 at the moment, as America ranks as the single wealthiest country on the entire planet,
00:01:47.120 One of our most popular homegrown genres on YouTube involves car repos.
00:01:52.960 Yes, car repos.
00:01:54.580 Most of the time in these videos, people don't realize the car is being repossessed
00:01:58.540 because they failed to make their monthly payments.
00:02:01.280 The tow truck pulls up, grabs the car, and it's gone within about 30 seconds.
00:02:05.200 But every so often, the deadbeats realize what's happening,
00:02:07.500 and they frantically run out into the Walmart parking lot,
00:02:10.280 pants around their ankles, pleading with the guy to give them their car back.
00:02:13.320 and in every case the driver is completely unmoved by their desperate please watch.
00:02:43.320 You can't let them take your car out here in Beachwood.
00:03:05.920 Come on, man.
00:03:06.920 Oh, no, no, no, no.
00:03:09.700 well can we get in come on man true no good
00:03:17.740 now you can imagine a couple of reasons why this content is popular obviously it shows people at
00:03:33.720 one of the lowest moments in their life which is always appealing for a certain segment of the
00:03:38.660 population. It's a self-esteem boost for a decent number of people. But if we're being honest,
00:03:43.980 part of the appeal is that, you know, for once, deadbeats are actually suffering consequences for
00:03:48.080 their actions. They thought they could simply stop paying their car note, just like they probably
00:03:52.300 stopped paying rent and child support and everything else. But this one instance, justice
00:03:56.340 arrives in the form of a tow truck driven by a guy with a million YouTube subscribers who simply
00:04:01.000 doesn't care about their excuses. He's looking to make some content while also getting paid by
00:04:05.540 JP Morgan or U.S. Bank for returning the car. Doesn't really care about anything else. And in
00:04:10.460 an environment where bad behavior is constantly forgiven, this kind of video, as voyeuristic as
00:04:14.540 it is, can also be refreshing to see for some people at some level. Also, unlike cops, which
00:04:21.080 goes out of its way to find white meth heads to mock, there's clearly no hesitation here to 0.59
00:04:24.980 broadcast real-life footage, regardless of the racial demographics that may be involved in these
00:04:30.660 repos. All the same, there's no getting around the fact that in a prosperous country, you wouldn't
00:04:35.840 expect car repos to be a particularly popular or prevalent genre. I mean, it's this idiocracy-level
00:04:41.780 content, the kind of video that should be leading the charts in Pakistan or Sudan, not the United 0.88
00:04:47.740 States. And there are many more examples, some of which we'll go through in a second.
00:04:51.860 In particular, there's the massive popularity of videos by Dave Ramsey, Caleb Hammer, and others 1.00
00:04:58.660 who routinely interview complete morons 0.99
00:05:00.640 who have racked up tens of thousands of dollars in debt. 1.00
00:05:04.540 Here's one of them to give you an idea.
00:05:07.060 My credit card, I maxed that out to $4,000.
00:05:11.180 What do you mean you maxed it out?
00:05:12.300 Maxed it out or maxed it out?
00:05:16.140 So my max, I got confused with the credit debt
00:05:21.080 and the credit limit.
00:05:23.260 So my parents got me a credit card
00:05:25.080 and i ended up getting a max credit limit of eight thousand dollars so i could spend up to
00:05:33.740 eight thousand dollars that's what that means right so i i would use it and i would take my
00:05:40.280 boyfriend we would we would just started dating we would go out it's 12 500 on it now yeah well
00:05:45.880 when i looked at it last yeah um me and my boyfriend me and my friends we would go out and
00:05:50.560 Oh, I'll pay for everybody. I got it. Oh, I'll spend the money. Don't worry about it. It's just
00:05:55.560 a credit card. So I would, I would pay and pay and pay and pay. And then I called my mom one day
00:06:00.460 and I wanted her to be proud of me. So it's just like, Hey, I've got $4,000 credit on my credit
00:06:06.160 card. And she's like, credit limit or credit debt. I was like, what's debt? And she's like,
00:06:12.620 Oh, that's bad. I'm like, Oh really? Okay. Um, so it's $4,000 debt then she's like, that's bad.
00:06:20.240 why did you do that i'm like i thought that was good and she's like no your credit limit at the
00:06:25.840 time it was uh it was 8 000 so i was like okay well the credit limit's 8 000 that's good right
00:06:31.720 and she's like yes but you were four thousand dollars in debt so i started paying it off
00:06:38.680 maybe like for a month and my mom and dad they were like when was this last year okay and then
00:06:47.280 what? And then they were like, screw it. You're not going to pay this off in time. Give it to me.
00:06:51.720 So my parents took it and they're still currently paying it off right now. Now, I have to be honest,
00:06:56.860 I always assumed that credit card companies had to work a little harder than this. I thought they
00:07:01.080 needed to use a variety of psychological tricks to convince women to spend money they didn't have, 1.00
00:07:06.460 like reward points that you can only spend on an overpriced travel portal or promotional APRs that
00:07:13.500 leave you with a massive interest bomb at the end, or the Super Bowl ads with Samuel Jackson
00:07:18.740 that convince you it's cool to have a credit card or something. But actually, the credit card
00:07:22.580 companies didn't need to do any of that. They're dealing with people who don't even understand what
00:07:26.500 debt means. I mean, think about that. They're clueless about the concept of owing money to
00:07:31.860 someone else. So really, all the credit card companies had to do was give women like this 1.00
00:07:36.960 a credit limit of $8,000, and some of them would apparently assume that they're basically getting
00:07:41.920 a statement credit or a voucher worth $8,000. It's free money. She actually called her mother
00:07:48.560 to brag about her credit limit without understanding that she was talking about her debt. 0.99
00:07:53.540 Now, it's an important reminder that no matter how many dumb people you've encountered in your 0.99
00:07:57.040 life, you've probably never spent any significant amount of time interacting with the dumbest 0.99
00:08:02.940 sorts of people. Truly, there is no bottom. I mean, there are people walking among us who are 0.98
00:08:07.720 willing to admit on camera that they do not understand the concept of credit or debt.
00:08:13.300 And until very recently, we've been importing millions more people every year, many of whom
00:08:17.020 can't speak English, who are even less informed than this. And these people are getting access
00:08:22.020 to credit. They're spending it without even realizing what they're doing. And as a direct
00:08:25.720 result, the prices for everything you buy are going up. Now, this is an economic concept that
00:08:32.760 needs some explanation because no one ever talks about it. When everybody, even complete morons who 1.00
00:08:39.200 can barely dress themselves, is given access to thousands of dollars in credit, then markets 0.99
00:08:44.220 immediately become very distorted. No one asks themselves, can I actually afford this? Instead,
00:08:50.260 they think in terms of monthly payments. Or as you just saw in that video, they don't think at all.
00:08:54.740 They simply swipe the card and then call their mother to brag. Now, when this view becomes
00:08:59.860 mainstream, and it has, then demand goes up while supply does not change. And as we know from the
00:09:06.220 principle of supply and demand, the result is that prices increase. And we see this in a variety of
00:09:11.560 industries from colleges to cars. The moment the federal government made it easy to obtain student
00:09:16.120 loans, tuition skyrocketed. And by the same token, as banks have increased the maximum duration of
00:09:22.060 auto loans up to 96 months has become common. The price of cars has also increased. And no,
00:09:28.500 I'm not making that up. Dealerships are now offering 96-month auto loans, which is another
00:09:34.040 way of saying eight-year loans. But they don't want to say eight years because, you know, I guess
00:09:38.460 that sounds too long to most people. I mean, I think 96 months sounds longer than eight years,
00:09:42.240 but maybe I'm in the minority. And not only that, dealerships are bragging about these loans on
00:09:47.140 social media. Here's one example from a dealership in Houston. This was uncovered by a YouTube
00:09:52.220 channel run by marissa van watch it gets worse this next clip when i came across it i almost
00:09:59.400 thought it wasn't real but unfortunately it is real this is a real dealership and they are
00:10:04.660 absolutely taking advantage of people every day what's going on folks it's your boy steveo got
00:10:09.140 me rolling today i got the homegirl nay approved on this 22 dodge challenger nay how was your
00:10:15.260 experience here today it was lovely chris got it done how much did you put down 4k 4k down how much
00:10:20.320 so once you do the math on this 820 dollars times 96 months plus the 4k she put down is
00:10:43.300 $82,720. The 2022 MSRP for the Dodge Challenger goes from about $30,000 from the basic trim level
00:10:52.060 to about $90,000 for the top level. The one in the video looks like a pretty basic model,
00:10:57.100 so I'm going to assume it's one of the ones that is under $40,000. So she is going to be paying,
00:11:01.880 again, almost double the price for the car because of interest. Now, realistically,
00:11:06.460 there's no way she's going to hold on to this vehicle for 96 months. Even if she wanted to,
00:11:12.100 it's not going to happen. This car is going to get repoed and she is going to appear in a 0.96
00:11:16.940 YouTube video in a few months chasing after the tow truck. And when that happens, her equity in
00:11:22.080 the vehicle, including her $4,000 down payment and any payments she's made up until that point
00:11:26.320 is almost certainly wasted. And that's because when your car gets repoed and sold at an auction,
00:11:32.000 it's usually sold on the cheap so that the bank can recover the money they lent you with a lot of
00:11:36.420 fees tacked on. Her equity in the vehicle, assuming she has any by that point, is going to get wiped
00:11:41.580 out. And this scenario plays out every day, thousands of times. That's not an exaggeration.
00:11:47.120 By one estimate in 2025, more than 3 million vehicles were repossessed. That comes out to
00:11:52.980 more than 8,000 vehicles a day. And those numbers, by the way, are similar to what we
00:11:57.000 saw following the recession in 2009. Now, you've probably seen people like this buying a car the
00:12:03.140 last time you were in a dealership. Just kind of by getting a sense of their vibe, you can tell
00:12:09.280 that they're not going to be able to afford the monthly payments. The car they buy is going to
00:12:14.400 go right back to the dealership. It's just a matter of time. But you can't simply ignore
00:12:19.080 these people because they're indirectly making your own vehicle much more expensive in the process.
00:12:24.920 The fact that you've saved up enough cash for a significant down payment and the fact that you've
00:12:29.720 secured a reasonable interest rate with payments you can afford doesn't really matter. You're
00:12:34.900 competing with people who have access to very large amounts of money that they have not earned
00:12:39.420 in the form of credit. So if you want the car, whether you've saved for it or not, you're going
00:12:44.580 to pay a lot more money. Here's one of the reasons that car MSRPs are now so high. In just the past
00:12:51.840 decade, the typical MSRP for a new vehicle has increased by roughly 46%. The average MSRP is now
00:12:58.260 over $50,000 compared with around $33,000 10 years ago. It's impossible today to find a new vehicle
00:13:05.480 with a starting MSRP below $20,000. And after all, if you're a car manufacturer, why bother
00:13:12.600 making a budget vehicle? Everybody's walking into the dealership with unlimited credit, basically.
00:13:18.680 So you might as well take advantage. And they do. But before we talk any more about humiliating
00:13:24.700 clips like these and what they reveal, we have to be honest about the broader economic numbers
00:13:29.580 that we do have, the ones that tell a much more positive story about the economy. Now, it's not
00:13:34.340 because the numbers are necessarily accurate or illuminating, but because we need to establish
00:13:38.840 some kind of baseline. So let's do that. Now, it's true that the total debt currently held by U.S.
00:13:44.560 households as of this year is more than $18.8 trillion. And in raw dollar terms, without
00:13:50.860 adjusting for inflation, wage growth, population size, or anything else, that's more debt than we've
00:13:56.440 ever had at any point in this country's history, by a huge margin. Meanwhile, credit card debt also
00:14:01.540 reached an all-time high of around $1.28 trillion in the last quarter of 2025. The debt then declined
00:14:08.460 slightly the next quarter to $1.25 trillion, as many people paid off their Christmas shopping
00:14:13.840 bills, but still it's over a trillion dollars. These are staggering numbers, truly. But in
00:14:21.340 context, you can argue they're not as bad as they seem. If you go back to the early 2000s,
00:14:25.100 household debt was around 70% of the American GDP. Towards the end of 2007, just before the
00:14:30.020 financial crisis, household debt was approaching 100% of GDP. By contrast, right now, household
00:14:37.060 debt is about 68% of GDP, which is still a lot. So as a percentage of the total U.S. gross domestic
00:14:44.760 product, we're not in debt as much as we used to be, although we are still much more in debt than
00:14:50.260 we should be. It'd be much worse if we were racking up bigger debt with a statement, with a
00:14:55.760 stagnant economy on top of that. So it's a good sign, although of course GDP is not necessarily
00:15:01.240 the most important metric either. If Amazon or Microsoft have a very good quarter, the GDP will
00:15:08.120 go up. That doesn't necessarily mean that Americans will get wealthier or have more money to pay their
00:15:13.960 debts. So there's another metric that gets used, which is called the household debt service ratio.
00:15:20.740 And this looks at total household debt payments, including mortgage payments, car loans, credit
00:15:27.280 card debts and measures them as a percentage of your total after-tax personal income, meaning
00:15:33.340 money you can actually spend freely. And this ratio is much more important. And as you could
00:15:40.100 see, it was much higher 20 years ago than it is today. It peaked around 16% in 2008. And now it's
00:15:47.460 down to around 11%. And if you zoom out from 1980 to 2004, the average was roughly 11% as well. So
00:15:54.740 we're spending less on debt payments than we were during the financial crisis, and we're spending
00:16:00.040 about as much as we've been spending since 1980. Based on those numbers, there's no obvious crisis
00:16:06.320 involving household debt. We're not suddenly borrowing a lot more money to pay for cars or
00:16:10.620 houses that we can't afford, and we're not drowning in credit card debt, at least not to an
00:16:14.740 unprecedented degree. But these figures don't account for every kind of debt. In particular,
00:16:20.240 they ignore rent payments, which are obviously a very significant household obligation, although
00:16:24.680 it's technically classified as an ongoing obligation, not a debt. For a while, the figure
00:16:30.160 also effectively excluded some forms of student loan debt, although that has changed recently.
00:16:35.280 And here's the interesting thing about student loan debt. It's ballooning out of control right
00:16:40.300 now, particularly among women. It's yet another disastrous consequence of the feminist movement. 1.00
00:16:45.920 Because women have been told to attend college at any cost, including art colleges and beauty 1.00
00:16:51.060 colleges that are basically scams. Tens of millions of women are now graduating with useless degrees 1.00
00:16:56.680 and a mountain of debt. And on top of that, they've driven up the cost of tuition for everybody else, 1.00
00:17:02.100 which was already extremely high because of federally backed student loans. So as you can see,
00:17:08.220 more than 60% of student loan debt belongs to women at the moment. And the average student 0.90
00:17:14.960 debt for women in this country now exceeds $30,000, with black women leading the pack at $40,000.
00:17:21.980 Meanwhile, the median female graduate earns around $66,000 a year after graduation,
00:17:27.760 meaning half of female graduates make less than that. And here's the kicker,
00:17:32.400 the average student debt repayment among women every month is just $307. So they'll be in debt 0.93
00:17:39.480 for at least a decade, assuming they make every payment on time, which is obviously a pretty big
00:17:44.940 and not very safe assumption. Pew recently found that 37% of female borrowers reported defaulting
00:17:51.700 on their loans compared to just 30% of male borrowers. So the best case scenario for these 1.00
00:17:56.920 women is that they'll be in debt for a decade. That's the best case. More realistic scenario 1.00
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00:20:24.880 Now, if you look at mainstream coverage of this issue without exception, 0.99
00:20:29.000 they'll portray women as the victims in this scenario. Here's Time Magazine, for example.
00:20:34.440 Quote, Sahara Artiga, 30 years old, originally took out $29,000 in student loans to go toward 0.99
00:20:40.420 an education at Massachusetts College of Art and Design. She started paying off her loans in 2014
00:20:45.380 after she graduated, while she's been making monthly payments towards her loans, even during
00:20:49.480 the payment pause, she still owes some $27,000. Women still face barriers to paying off their 1.00
00:20:55.020 loans due to the gender wage gap, a lack of generational wealth, and gender norms placed on 0.86
00:21:00.280 women. Black women are particularly affected by student loan debt. If you're coming from a space 0.94
00:21:04.920 where you have fewer resources available, that means that you're going to take longer to pay
00:21:09.280 your loans off. So there's the completely fake gender pay gap making an appearance, along with
00:21:16.500 the typical language that absolves women, especially black women, of all personal responsibility.
00:21:21.620 What nobody wants to say is that if you're a woman who took out $29,000 to go to the Massachusetts 1.00
00:21:26.620 College of Art and Design, you're an idiot who really doesn't deserve our pity. The typical 1.00
00:21:34.620 starting salary for a studio art graduate of this school is $35,000, which is right in line with
00:21:42.200 what Applebee's will pay you to serve reheated food from the back of a Cisco truck. It's much
00:21:48.420 less than a decent bartender takes home. And the job at Applebee's or the bar doesn't require a
00:21:54.060 four-year degree that costs tens of thousands of dollars in tuition, not counting housing costs. 1.00
00:21:59.540 The problem here is not that women are discriminated against. It's actually the 1.00
00:22:03.700 opposite. They're getting hired at rates that are clearly unjustifiable. This is an article from
00:22:08.100 CNBC this week. I saw this floating around on social media and couldn't even believe it was
00:22:13.440 real at first, but indeed it is legitimate. It says, quote, women accounted for almost all 0.99
00:22:19.600 of job gains in August. Women accounted for 158,000 or around 98% of the 162,000 jobs added
00:22:28.700 in the month, according to a CNBC analysis of data released Friday by the Bureau of Labor
00:22:33.460 Statistics. Men represented the remaining 4,000 net positions added, meaning the contribution
00:22:37.880 to overall payroll growth was nearly 40 times smaller. With Friday's report, the gap between
00:22:44.860 the number of jobs held by women compared with men climbed to levels never before seen,
00:22:49.700 according to Laura Ulrich, director of economic research at the Indeed Hiring Lab.
00:22:53.380 We're in the midst of a shift. It's changing right before our eyes.
00:22:59.960 These are truly astonishing numbers, which validate everything we've said in the past about the feminization of the workforce. 0.71
00:23:09.200 This is cataclysmic. Deserves itself a longer discussion, which I think we'll do soon. 0.92
00:23:16.100 But the point is, you're not imagining it.
00:23:18.000 White male workers are being pushed out, being discriminated against at a level that had never been seen before in favor of women who have flooded into the job market, who make up 100% of the net growth in the last month.
00:23:35.960 And guess where these women are working?
00:23:38.700 I mean, do you think they're getting hired by SpaceX or something like that to design new rockets that will add trillions of dollars in value to the economy? 1.00
00:23:44.820 No, they're getting fake jobs, many of them, particularly jobs in the local government and education sector, which means they're drawing taxpayer money, your money, to indoctrinate children. 0.98
00:23:56.200 Women take more than 75% of those jobs. 0.84
00:23:58.800 They're also dominating the healthcare field, taking more than 80% of the jobs there, mostly in roles like medical support. 0.95
00:24:05.260 Quote, compared with 12 months ago, the BLS found that the level of employed women has grown by more than 870,000 in a seasonally adjusted basis.
00:24:16.420 The male gender has lost nearly 1.5 million employed workers over the same time frame.
00:24:23.040 Part of the recent outperformance among women could stem from what sectors are driving labor force expansion.
00:24:29.540 Healthcare, considered the engine of labor market growth for more than a year, continued adding positions in August.
00:24:35.260 Upwards of four out of every five workers in the industry are women.
00:24:39.060 The local government education sector roared back to life in August, accounting for 42,000 jobs.
00:24:44.100 Women hold close to three quarters of positions related to education, training, and libraries.
00:24:51.460 Now, it's impossible to overstate the significance of these numbers. 0.99
00:24:54.520 We have become a country where instead of aspiring to raise families, 1.00
00:24:59.820 women aspire to fake jobs that don't meaningfully contribute to a society or to the economy or 1.00
00:25:05.960 anything else? Is there anyone alive who's looked at the state or of their local government or 1.00
00:25:11.880 schools and decided that the solution is to artificially inflate the number of women who 0.76
00:25:17.360 are hired even more? Is there anyone who believes that it's more fulfilling for a woman to take one 0.99
00:25:23.180 of these jobs instead of raising a family or more useful to society and to the fate of civilization? 0.99
00:25:29.820 and you might ask what exactly are women doing with this money if they're not raising kids
00:25:35.400 well here's a window into what that world looks like but uh fair warning it's pretty grim stuff
00:25:41.780 watch why are you so much credit card debt i i get a lot of tattoos
00:25:47.300 and i've spent a lot of money on these tattoos i've put about 10 000 on tattoos in the past year
00:25:54.460 In the past year?
00:25:55.880 Yeah.
00:25:56.480 Why?
00:25:57.220 $10,000 in the last year on tattoos.
00:25:59.400 I just kept getting them. 0.97
00:26:01.000 No s***. 0.93
00:26:01.960 Why? 0.84
00:26:02.980 Because they look cool.
00:26:04.460 None of them even have color.
00:26:06.020 This one has some color.
00:26:07.980 It's a little blue.
00:26:08.720 Just a little bit.
00:26:09.920 You have a salt shaker, okay.
00:26:11.660 It's one of my favorites.
00:26:13.640 Now, the easy access to credit and student loans, along with meaningless employment in
00:26:17.660 the form of fake government jobs, has led us directly to this point.
00:26:21.340 30 years ago, people like this weren't able to use Klarna or Affirm or PayPal's Buy Now,
00:26:27.680 Pay Later system. They couldn't obtain thousands of dollars in easy credit from 20 different
00:26:32.780 credit card companies. In fact, until the mid-1970s, they couldn't get credit cards by
00:26:37.340 themselves at all. Now they have near infinite access to credit, which they're using to drive
00:26:42.280 up the cost for the rest of us, precisely the moment that they're squeezing the job market.
00:26:46.360 Apparently, sleep tourism is now a growing trend.
00:26:49.720 People are spending thousands of bucks to travel to hotels and wellness retreats designed almost entirely around getting a good night's sleep.
00:26:57.120 So instead of visiting historical landmarks, exploring a new city, or doing anything remotely memorable, you fly across the country and remain unconscious for most of the trip.
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00:28:08.100 Now, note, of course, that the problem is much bigger than the morons that appear on these kinds of shows.
00:28:14.200 Some of the most powerful institutions in this country have spent years developing products that are designed to trap their customers in debt, which they can't possibly escape from. 0.84
00:28:23.500 This is a quote from a lawsuit that was just filed against Robinhood in Georgia.
00:28:27.220 This is from a few months ago.
00:28:30.020 And here's the key quote.
00:28:31.180 It says,
00:29:01.180 Robinhood insufficiently warns consumers that speculative trading against margin may expose core investment holdings and long-term stock portfolios to substantial and accelerated losses and even significant debt.
00:29:12.820 In its fiscal year ending December 31st, 2025, Robinhood collected $302 million in other transaction-based revenue, a 260% increase from the previous year, which was primarily driven by increased user activities in prediction markets and instant withdrawals.
00:29:31.180 So in other words, Robinhood is a brokerage. It's mainly used for buying stocks, but they also allow you to use your equity to gamble on sports and politics and everything else. And on top of that, if you don't want to liquidate your stocks, they'll loan you money to gamble with your stock portfolio as collateral.
00:29:50.240 So as a hypothetical, let's say you have $20,000 in a brokerage account. Robinhood might lend you,
00:29:56.700 say, $10,000 to gamble on their prediction markets. And if you lose that $10,000, they have
00:30:02.700 the right to force you to sell your stocks at whatever price they're currently worth
00:30:06.080 to settle the debt. That's how people are losing their life savings.
00:30:10.700 We have gambling apps embedded within brokerages now. Now, to be clear, I'm not actually
00:30:17.460 entirely blaming Robin Hood for this. As far as I could tell, this lawsuit has
00:30:22.960 very little merit. Federal law, Trump's state law and federal law allows these kinds of markets
00:30:28.780 right now, for better or worse, and it is for worse. What happened here is that this guy made
00:30:35.440 a series of disastrous bets, and now he's trying to claw his money back. But the fact remains that
00:30:42.140 20 years ago, he would have had to book a plane ticket to Vegas to do anything like this.
00:30:46.340 And now he can do it on his phone 24-7. And that is a temptation and an ease of access
00:30:53.340 that for many people is proving very difficult to resist. And that's one of the reasons we
00:31:01.540 stopped doing gambling ads on this show. It's destroying lives. I mean, that's just an objective
00:31:05.420 fact. A lot of lives. But we can't talk about debt, whether it's margin debt or credit card
00:31:13.200 debt or any other kind of debt without talking about some of the potential benefits. Obviously,
00:31:18.440 not all personal debt is bad. Not every margin loan ends in catastrophe, although it's generally
00:31:22.740 a very bad idea. And yes, availability of cheap credit has been excellent for economic growth.
00:31:29.160 Having the world's reserve currency made the US a superpower, allowing us to spend whatever we
00:31:33.020 want without massive inflation. It's radically expanded our soft power. To the extent people
00:31:38.280 use credit to purchase assets that appreciate or allow them to live, that could be a good
00:31:43.260 thing. Mortgages in particular, obviously a net positive, even if housing prices are
00:31:48.300 way too high now. But the concept itself is a net positive in many different ways. And
00:31:52.920 it's also good that if you ever need to make a large emergency expense, you can do so with
00:31:57.320 a credit card instantly without having to liquidate any of your assets. And if you're
00:32:02.260 responsible about all these things, then it'll be fine. But the extent to which credit
00:32:06.720 is available today is unprecedented. I mean, this is from a recent article in Consumer Reports,
00:32:12.500 for example, quote, on a recent weekday, too tired to cook, my wife and I ordered takeout from
00:32:17.620 Chipotle. The food came fast, but the tab will be taking its time. Thanks to a small loan through
00:32:23.660 fintech startup Zip, I don't have to pay for the two burritos plus sodas and sides for the next
00:32:28.360 42 days. Buy now, pay later, lenders generally set a minimum amount you must spend in order to
00:32:34.100 receive financing. To order Chipotle through Zip, for example, I had to spend at least $35. The
00:32:38.660 company, like most lenders, requires users to pay 25% up front and then pay down the remaining
00:32:44.020 balance over four equal bi-weekly installments. In the case of Zip, a $1 fee is assessed per
00:32:50.200 installment, meaning my installment worked out to $9.75 each. At $10, Klarna, at least for now,
00:32:56.420 appears to set the lowest loan threshold. In cleaning up after our Chipotle feast, my wife
00:33:00.600 and I realized we were out of paper towels, so I signed up for Klarna and within minutes had
00:33:04.840 ordered $10 worth of paper towels from Target on a payment plan. My four installments worked out to
00:33:09.820 about $2.60 each. Now, people are doing this all the time now. I mean, they're addicted to buying
00:33:16.840 an expensive item now, or not so expensive, and paying for it over time, even when it's a burrito
00:33:22.620 or a bottle of body wash. It works out very well for the lenders since around 35% of customers who
00:33:31.080 use these loans ultimately fall behind on their payments. And when they do that, fees hit,
00:33:35.280 interest comes due, payments explode. Now, this is totally indefensible for obvious reasons.
00:33:42.460 Nobody should be financing a burrito. It's true that if you're starving, you should,
00:33:47.720 in that case, sure, go into debt for food, but in America, no one is starving. There are massive
00:33:54.140 programs and billions of dollars of charities, school lunch programs, etc., etc., etc., that feed
00:34:01.040 poor people. The vast majority of food stamp recipients are obese. So the people using Klarna
00:34:07.000 to buy stuff like burritos or shampoo are, without any doubt, being irresponsible. It shouldn't need
00:34:13.020 to be said at any other point in our history, it wouldn't need to be said, but if you spend any
00:34:17.580 amount of time on social media, you'll find that, indeed, people are actually doing this.
00:34:21.420 My friends, times are hard, but times don't have to be too hard when we have our Buy Now
00:34:25.740 Pay Lator app. I used to be so stressed out until I was introduced to these Buy Now Pay Lator apps.
00:34:31.020 Some of y'all might look at them as debt. Some of y'all might say, oh, if I can't afford that,
00:34:35.520 I'm not finna buy it. Baby, me, give me an app and give me some personal power and I'm gonna show
00:34:40.480 you what to do with it. When I feel like I can't pay my car note, if I feel like I can't pay my
00:34:44.700 insurance if i don't use my credit card for the whole month and i don't know how i'm gonna pay it
00:34:49.000 back even if i need to buy some groceries for my house i'm gonna go to walmart with my buy now
00:34:53.580 pay letter card and i'm gonna give me a money order and i feel like i love the buy now pay
00:34:58.140 letter apps and loans because you don't have to worry about all the interest you got to pay back
00:35:03.040 so if i select to pay this loan back in six months i have six months to pay it off if i pay it off
00:35:08.520 early i don't have to pay all the interest i don't know about child but i would rather borrow from
00:35:12.440 my app. I would rather pay my light bill, gas bill, car note, insurance, whatever, and some six payments
00:35:17.780 or three. Didn't be sitting up in here looking crazy without no license, no car to drive.
00:35:22.860 Now, if I deciphered that correctly, she's putting everything on buy now, pay later plans from gas 1.00
00:35:28.180 to groceries. And this is not an aberration. A subset of the population has become dependent on
00:35:34.320 this kind of spending, which completely removes personal responsibility and planning from the
00:35:39.960 equation. And that's a big problem. You know, for most of its history, the United States was built
00:35:45.840 on notions of personal responsibility and work ethic and frugality. That's all gone now. And in
00:35:54.080 losing that, we lost a fundamental feature of American life and American identity. We've also
00:36:01.320 driven up costs for everyone else in ways that aren't even fully apparent right now. And with
00:36:06.520 just a few weeks to go until some very important elections in this country, that's important to
00:36:13.320 keep in mind. The bill for all of this excessive, wasteful spending is eventually going to come due.
00:36:21.400 These people certainly don't think they're going to pay it. Call it whatever you want,
00:36:26.320 democratic socialism, racial equity, whatever. At some point, they're going to demand a bailout
00:36:32.060 at gunpoint. And when that happens, it won't matter what the GDP is or the unemployment rate
00:36:37.700 or anything else. At that point, which is rapidly approaching, all that will matter
00:36:43.720 is whether we've kept these people, these kinds of people who only know how to consume everything
00:36:49.640 in their sight, as far away from power as we possibly can. That'll do the show today. Thanks
00:36:57.580 for watching. Thanks for listening. Talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day. Godspeed.
00:37:02.060 Every significant movement in history has started with protesting. 1.00
00:37:10.060 You're a traitor! 0.68
00:37:11.060 This is our generation's civil rights! 0.99
00:37:13.060 I have no idea what the protest is about.
00:37:15.060 Bingo!
00:37:16.060 Given the current climate,
00:37:17.060 we should have figured as polarizing as Clay Saunders
00:37:20.060 could even be allowed on Kansas.
00:37:21.060 Ah, can you hear me okay?
00:37:22.060 Saunders is a close personal friend of Chancellor Friedman.
00:37:25.060 This is a decision I cannot find. 1.00
00:37:26.060 Islam will conquer the West. 1.00
00:37:28.060 As-salamu alaykum. 1.00
00:37:33.060 Are we paying attention? 0.99
00:37:35.060 They've taken over the building, they're downstairs and they've blocked the doors.
00:37:39.060 I seek forgiveness from Allah the Almighty.
00:37:44.060 We cannot run and hide.
00:37:46.060 Muhammad is the messenger of God.
00:37:49.060 There is no God but Allah.
00:37:52.060 What do you say? 1.00
00:37:53.060 You turn those SOBs into a fine red mist. 1.00
00:37:58.060 As we move, one man will cover while the other guys go. 1.00
00:38:01.580 They call that leap project.
00:38:02.760 Stretch around and listen.
00:38:05.480 You need a course in safe weapons handling.