The Matt Walsh Show - October 22, 2019


Ep. 354 - Court Sanctioned Child Abuse


Episode Stats

Length

47 minutes

Words per Minute

159.20549

Word Count

7,537

Sentence Count

475

Misogynist Sentences

39

Hate Speech Sentences

23


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 I am going to try my level best here.
00:00:07.100 I'm going to really try, folks.
00:00:09.240 I will attempt to remain calm, to not start screaming as we discuss this story,
00:00:15.100 but I must admit that I am fairly seething with a deep and primal rage at the moment.
00:00:22.860 Now, if you watch this show, you know that the thing that sets me off more than anything else
00:00:28.660 the thing that sends me into spasms of anger on this show is when children are hurt, exploited, abused.
00:00:38.240 And you might say, well, obviously that upsets you.
00:00:41.120 That upsets everybody.
00:00:42.900 Well, it should, shouldn't it?
00:00:45.560 But it doesn't.
00:00:47.860 I shouldn't have to sit here and say, I really hate child abuse.
00:00:51.660 I'm against it.
00:00:53.720 That shouldn't be the kind of thing that you even need to talk about on a show like this
00:00:57.820 because it should be something we all agree on, should be a position we all share
00:01:04.080 so that talking about it would be redundant and unnecessary.
00:01:07.160 But guys, we live in a country where, in fact, lots of people and lots of powerful people,
00:01:15.760 as we will see in a minute, are fully in favor of child abuse in many forms.
00:01:20.780 They're in favor of killing children in the womb.
00:01:25.040 And if the child manages to escape the womb with his life intact, then these same people,
00:01:30.540 these disgusting, monstrous scumbags, will set to work attempting to destroy the child emotionally,
00:01:38.800 psychologically, through all manner of physical and emotional and psychological and sexual abuse
00:01:45.200 and exploitation.
00:01:47.360 There are many people, and again, many powerful people in our country,
00:01:50.780 who see children as objects that can be exploited and used or just discarded if you don't want them.
00:01:58.700 That's the backdrop here as we get into the topic at hand.
00:02:02.540 And the topic at hand is the case of James Younger, a seven-year-old boy, son of Jeff Younger
00:02:10.520 and quote-unquote mother Anne Georgilis.
00:02:14.840 Anne Georgilis, by the way, is not only the quote-unquote mother, but she's also a quote-unquote doctor,
00:02:20.940 a pediatrician of all things.
00:02:24.940 Now, so let's back up here and do some background on this case.
00:02:32.540 So Jeff and Anne, and I guess I'm just going to use their first names here as we talk about it
00:02:38.600 just because it's easier.
00:02:40.180 So Jeff and Anne were married but ended up getting divorced.
00:02:44.320 Actually, I think it might have been an annulment.
00:02:45.740 I'm not sure.
00:02:46.240 Don't quote me on that.
00:02:47.460 But in any case, the marriage ended one way or another.
00:02:50.540 And as is usually the case with these sorts of things, the quote-unquote mother was given most of the rights
00:02:58.240 over the child because that's the sort of default position that the courts have,
00:03:03.160 that family courts have most of the time, where they're just going to assume that the mother
00:03:07.300 is the more fit parent because she's a woman.
00:03:09.920 But remember, women are the ones who are legally oppressed in this country.
00:03:13.620 Remember that.
00:03:14.320 Anyway, the mother is given most of the power over the child.
00:03:19.080 Eventually, the mother decides that the boy, James, is actually a girl named Luna.
00:03:29.080 Now, remember that James right now is seven years old.
00:03:33.980 So he's very, very young.
00:03:35.420 But this all started a few years ago.
00:03:37.560 In fact, he was three years old when it started.
00:03:40.420 He was three when the mother decided that he was a girl.
00:03:46.460 Do you want to know how the quote-unquote mother made this discovery?
00:03:51.260 Well, an article in the Texan explains it.
00:03:55.000 So here's a quote from the Texan article.
00:03:58.740 It says,
00:03:59.120 Conflict arose in the next few years, and their marriage was eventually annulled.
00:04:02.640 While the court made the parents joint managing conservators,
00:04:08.640 Georgilis was given exclusive rights and duties while youngers were limited.
00:04:15.240 Georgilis says that James first wanted a girl's toy from McDonald's
00:04:20.900 and soon after started imitating the female characters from Disney's Frozen
00:04:27.460 and asked to wear dresses.
00:04:32.100 She says she then contacted the Genesis Clinic at Children's Hospital Center,
00:04:36.900 and they referred her to Rebecca Ower for counseling.
00:04:43.540 And then that person recommended a process of affirmation.
00:04:48.320 And they thought that a social transition for James to begin going to school
00:04:52.880 dressed as a girl named Luna would be in his best interest.
00:04:55.840 So that's how the quote-unquote mother figured out that little James is really just a shell.
00:05:05.620 James really didn't exist, it turns out.
00:05:08.660 James was a shell.
00:05:09.880 He was a James shell.
00:05:11.580 But trapped inside that shell of a body was this little girl named Luna
00:05:15.620 who was just itching to get out.
00:05:17.820 This is science, by the way.
00:05:21.160 This is all science.
00:05:23.760 And she figured that out because James wanted a girl toy from McDonald's.
00:05:28.760 Oh, and he also likes the movie Frozen.
00:05:32.280 Well, that's it then.
00:05:33.940 That settles it.
00:05:35.320 Eureka!
00:05:36.760 I mean, there couldn't possibly be any other explanation
00:05:39.960 for why this boy was interested in a Disney film.
00:05:45.720 Couldn't possibly be any other explanation.
00:05:47.820 He must really be a girl.
00:05:51.160 I said I wasn't going to scream.
00:05:54.000 Let me pull back a little bit.
00:05:56.240 Now, of course, by this standard,
00:05:58.660 literally every other,
00:06:00.500 every boy by this standard is a girl.
00:06:04.040 And every girl's a boy.
00:06:05.820 Because every boy is interested in some things
00:06:09.180 that are associated with girls.
00:06:10.900 And every little girl is interested
00:06:12.160 in some things that are associated with boys.
00:06:14.200 So if that's the case,
00:06:15.060 then every girl's a boy,
00:06:16.260 every boy's a girl,
00:06:17.040 nothing means anything.
00:06:17.940 What does it even matter in that case?
00:06:22.960 And by the way,
00:06:24.180 I thought we were done gendering toys, right?
00:06:28.080 I thought there was no such thing as a girl toy or a boy toy.
00:06:31.620 Wasn't that the whole thing with Target
00:06:33.040 where they stopped,
00:06:34.040 they didn't have the girl toy aisle
00:06:35.560 or the boy toy aisle anymore?
00:06:37.460 Because whether you're a boy or a girl,
00:06:39.460 you can play with any toy.
00:06:40.360 I thought that was the point.
00:06:41.600 But now you're saying
00:06:42.440 that if a boy plays with a toy
00:06:44.160 that's associated with girls,
00:06:45.400 it's really an indication
00:06:46.260 that he actually is a girl trapped
00:06:47.960 in a boy's body.
00:06:49.120 So have you not just then reaffirmed
00:06:51.460 the gendering of toys?
00:06:56.660 Except for the quote-unquote mother,
00:07:00.740 there was a hiccup.
00:07:01.420 Because when James went to his father's house,
00:07:04.580 he was still identifying as a boy.
00:07:06.460 Imagine that.
00:07:07.560 And going by the name James
00:07:09.040 and wearing boy clothes and all of that
00:07:10.760 because he is a boy
00:07:11.640 and he wants to be a boy.
00:07:13.280 The quote-unquote mother couldn't have that.
00:07:15.460 She couldn't allow the father
00:07:16.660 to interfere with the abuse of the child.
00:07:20.760 She really had been putting a lot of effort
00:07:25.940 into abusing this child
00:07:27.420 and she didn't want the father
00:07:28.740 interfering with that.
00:07:30.000 So eventually it goes to the courts.
00:07:33.120 Both parents fighting essentially for sole custody
00:07:35.780 and the court just ruled yesterday.
00:07:38.480 This is in Texas, remember.
00:07:40.680 In Texas.
00:07:42.400 The court ruled yesterday against the father.
00:07:45.540 The mother is now given
00:07:48.200 basically soul power and authority.
00:07:51.260 The father will probably not get
00:07:54.000 any unsupervised visits with his own son
00:07:57.060 who I guess the court believes is really his daughter.
00:08:00.700 And the mother can now, if she wants,
00:08:04.280 start the process of chemically castrating the boy.
00:08:07.040 She can now force him to live full-time as a girl
00:08:11.500 and she can poison him with chemicals
00:08:13.340 to permanently alter his body
00:08:15.460 so that she can live out her fantasies.
00:08:20.420 Fantasies that she has imposed on her child.
00:08:23.980 Well, actually, not really her child.
00:08:26.000 That's the icing on the cake here.
00:08:27.580 I've been calling her the quote-unquote mother
00:08:29.440 because she is an abusive monster
00:08:31.960 and does not deserve to be called the mother.
00:08:34.400 She is not a mother.
00:08:35.680 She is not acting like one.
00:08:37.180 She is not, this is not how mothers behave.
00:08:39.760 She doesn't deserve,
00:08:41.120 so it's only for lack of a better term
00:08:43.580 that I use this term, mother, for her.
00:08:45.920 But it's also worth noting
00:08:47.100 that actually, technically,
00:08:49.500 she isn't even biologically the mother.
00:08:53.060 The child was conceived with a donor egg.
00:08:55.640 She isn't even biologically related to this kid.
00:08:58.660 And yet she has been given the power to do what she wants
00:09:04.600 to him and with him.
00:09:06.880 It's amazing.
00:09:09.280 Now, it's true that James doesn't really want to be a girl.
00:09:13.900 This identity has been foisted on him
00:09:16.360 by this despicable lunatic
00:09:18.300 who fashions herself a mother.
00:09:20.880 And I want you to understand,
00:09:23.840 I'm being very harsh in the way
00:09:25.260 that I describe this woman.
00:09:27.600 But that's because what she is doing is pure evil.
00:09:30.940 And if we lived in a country where things made sense
00:09:33.800 and where there was justice
00:09:35.760 and where we cared about protecting children,
00:09:39.540 this person would be locked in prison
00:09:44.480 for the rest of her life
00:09:45.580 because that's where she deserves to be.
00:09:47.780 This is a very, very bad person.
00:09:51.420 And this is, as I have always argued,
00:09:53.840 this is a form of not just emotional
00:09:55.840 and physical and psychological abuse,
00:09:57.820 although as if that's not enough,
00:09:59.640 it is also sexual abuse, okay?
00:10:02.240 It is in the most fundamental way
00:10:04.040 because you are sexually manipulating a child.
00:10:06.900 In fact, I want you to listen to this.
00:10:09.040 The father was on a podcast recently.
00:10:11.780 He was on the Luke Macias podcast,
00:10:15.060 which you can hear if you go to
00:10:16.420 lukemacias.com, M-A-C-I-A-S.com.
00:10:20.180 That's how you pronounce the last name.
00:10:21.740 It's a long interview worth listening to.
00:10:24.340 But I want to play one part
00:10:25.740 where he talks about how this started,
00:10:29.680 what the mother did to James.
00:10:32.380 And in fact, right before we play this clip,
00:10:34.340 or actually right before this clip
00:10:36.060 that I'm going to play,
00:10:37.520 Jeff, because he's talking about
00:10:39.260 what this person did.
00:10:40.780 And he says that there were various
00:10:44.800 tools of manipulation she would use
00:10:48.020 in order to create gender confusion
00:10:52.460 in her innocent and helpless son.
00:10:56.320 One of the things she would do,
00:10:57.640 apparently, according to Jeff,
00:10:58.820 is she would lock the kid in a room
00:11:00.600 and tell him that there's a monster
00:11:04.360 in there that only eats little boys.
00:11:06.840 She would do that with him
00:11:09.380 when he was three years old.
00:11:13.460 And there was much more to it than that.
00:11:15.600 Listen to what Jeff Younger,
00:11:17.980 the father, has to say.
00:11:19.540 During the temporary orders period,
00:11:22.260 when we were waiting to go to final trial
00:11:24.100 and we're going through the endless motions
00:11:26.500 before the associate judge,
00:11:29.260 my three-year-old son tells me,
00:11:33.600 he's at my home,
00:11:34.380 he tells me that he's a girl.
00:11:38.020 And I had the presence of mind,
00:11:40.500 thank goodness,
00:11:41.220 to pull out my iPhone
00:11:43.040 and videotape me asking him about that.
00:11:46.240 And that was literally the first time
00:11:47.820 that I really understood
00:11:48.640 what was happening to my son.
00:11:50.420 And what did you gather
00:11:51.900 from that first conversation with him?
00:11:54.060 His mother was telling him
00:11:55.400 that he was a girl.
00:11:56.820 She was dressing him as a girl.
00:11:59.400 She was putting nail polish on him
00:12:01.760 and encouraging him to act like a girl.
00:12:04.900 And my personal assessment,
00:12:07.380 this isn't from James,
00:12:08.280 but my personal assessment,
00:12:09.700 was that she was only giving him love
00:12:11.920 and affection if he acted like a girl.
00:12:15.560 And that was the first time I noticed.
00:12:17.440 He was just past his third birthday.
00:12:20.120 Three years old.
00:12:22.240 Three years old.
00:12:23.280 So it's obvious that James
00:12:26.200 doesn't really identify as a girl.
00:12:28.280 He's been forced into this.
00:12:29.480 This is something that has been done to him
00:12:31.680 by that nurse ratchet of a mother
00:12:34.460 that he has been cursed with.
00:12:37.800 But here's the thing.
00:12:39.500 It wouldn't matter.
00:12:41.560 Even if he did really authentically
00:12:44.120 identify as a girl,
00:12:45.900 it would make no difference.
00:12:47.080 or it should make no difference
00:12:50.220 to the case.
00:12:54.460 If this wasn't being forced on him
00:12:57.320 the way that it is,
00:12:58.240 that would make the mother
00:13:00.140 maybe less of an evil scumbag,
00:13:01.740 but it wouldn't change the reality.
00:13:04.660 And the reality is that
00:13:06.040 no matter what the child says,
00:13:09.060 the child who doesn't understand
00:13:11.240 what's going on
00:13:12.120 and can't possibly understand,
00:13:14.320 the reality is that he is a boy.
00:13:16.160 Period.
00:13:16.600 He is a boy.
00:13:17.460 Not a girl.
00:13:18.780 He doesn't know what a girl is.
00:13:20.040 He doesn't really know what a boy is.
00:13:21.420 He doesn't understand
00:13:22.100 what it means to transition.
00:13:24.080 He doesn't understand the consequences.
00:13:25.620 He doesn't understand anything
00:13:27.320 because he's a child.
00:13:30.180 He is just a confused child.
00:13:34.480 And whatever he says
00:13:36.040 about I'm a girl, I'm a boy,
00:13:37.380 these are confused statements
00:13:39.140 from a naive and innocent little kid
00:13:42.340 who doesn't know
00:13:43.960 what the hell is going on
00:13:45.200 because how could he?
00:13:50.260 So in some ways,
00:13:51.860 as we talk about,
00:13:53.240 well, you know,
00:13:54.340 does he want to be a girl?
00:13:56.540 Does he want to be a boy?
00:13:58.460 And it seems like
00:13:59.380 that's what the case
00:14:00.140 really boiled down to.
00:14:01.300 But that just shows you.
00:14:03.380 That just shows you
00:14:04.320 how crazy things have gotten.
00:14:06.640 Because it's starting
00:14:08.240 from a false premise.
00:14:09.500 It doesn't,
00:14:10.280 to argue over what does he want,
00:14:13.120 that would seem to grant
00:14:15.580 the premise to begin with
00:14:17.240 that a child can potentially
00:14:19.880 choose his own gender,
00:14:21.380 which he can't anyway,
00:14:23.000 no matter what he wants.
00:14:24.620 But the fact that
00:14:25.700 he doesn't even want this
00:14:27.000 in the first place
00:14:28.100 just makes it,
00:14:28.860 I suppose,
00:14:29.680 all the worse.
00:14:31.280 You know,
00:14:31.480 when you follow this case,
00:14:32.460 you really begin to see,
00:14:33.460 well, you see a few things.
00:14:34.880 You see that we are screwed
00:14:36.160 as a society.
00:14:37.440 I hate to say it.
00:14:39.120 This case,
00:14:39.980 I don't think people
00:14:41.500 really understand
00:14:42.240 just how monumental
00:14:43.100 this case is.
00:14:43.940 It's gotten
00:14:44.380 a fair amount of attention,
00:14:46.160 at least in conservative circles.
00:14:48.380 It should be getting
00:14:49.260 a lot more attention
00:14:50.480 than it actually is, though.
00:14:51.740 However much attention
00:14:54.460 it's getting,
00:14:56.140 we should be much more
00:14:58.420 focused on this
00:14:59.340 than we are.
00:15:01.780 Because we are crossing
00:15:03.180 now a threshold
00:15:04.620 with the court
00:15:08.220 making a ruling like this
00:15:09.780 in Texas,
00:15:11.120 of all places.
00:15:11.760 Can you imagine now
00:15:12.960 cases like this
00:15:14.080 in California
00:15:15.100 or Washington State
00:15:17.100 or New York
00:15:18.400 or New Hampshire?
00:15:18.980 Can you imagine
00:15:20.140 if this woman
00:15:22.840 could get this ruling
00:15:23.860 out of a Texas court?
00:15:27.280 Imagine what
00:15:28.440 a similarly monstrous parent
00:15:30.720 could achieve
00:15:31.720 in a court,
00:15:33.600 in a state
00:15:34.740 that's already
00:15:35.260 crazy liberal
00:15:35.940 to begin with.
00:15:38.060 But the other thing
00:15:39.140 that you see illustrated
00:15:40.440 is the fact
00:15:41.260 that transgender children
00:15:42.520 are really a symptom
00:15:43.760 of Munchausen
00:15:45.100 by proxy.
00:15:47.060 And I think this case
00:15:47.840 is a,
00:15:48.120 you couldn't,
00:15:49.360 you couldn't find
00:15:50.360 a better illustration
00:15:51.220 of that.
00:15:51.700 Munchausen by proxy
00:15:52.680 is when parents
00:15:54.560 pretend
00:15:56.680 that their children
00:15:58.040 are sick
00:15:58.680 or they make
00:15:59.800 the child sick
00:16:00.680 in order to get
00:16:01.360 attention or pity
00:16:02.560 or whatever else
00:16:03.700 they want.
00:16:04.280 They did,
00:16:04.780 there was the HBO
00:16:05.540 miniseries,
00:16:07.240 what was it called?
00:16:07.860 Sharp Objects
00:16:08.620 based on a book.
00:16:09.980 Amy Adams
00:16:10.560 came out last year
00:16:12.180 and it revolves,
00:16:15.140 that might be
00:16:15.560 a spoiler actually,
00:16:16.420 I might have just
00:16:16.860 spoiled it for you,
00:16:17.520 sorry about that.
00:16:18.120 Anyway,
00:16:20.260 but it revolves
00:16:21.780 around this
00:16:22.880 thing where you've
00:16:24.600 got a parent
00:16:25.420 and this happens
00:16:26.260 in real life,
00:16:26.860 not just in movies
00:16:27.600 where you have
00:16:28.060 some sick
00:16:28.740 and twisted
00:16:29.200 evil parents
00:16:30.120 who I think
00:16:31.420 oftentimes
00:16:31.960 ends up being
00:16:32.860 a mother
00:16:33.160 who does this
00:16:33.680 for whatever reason
00:16:34.320 but they make
00:16:35.240 their kids sick.
00:16:38.360 And it's all
00:16:39.120 just the most
00:16:40.320 twisted form
00:16:41.120 of emotional
00:16:41.640 manipulation
00:16:42.240 or sort of
00:16:42.660 using the child
00:16:43.640 as bait,
00:16:44.660 dangling the sick
00:16:45.620 child out there,
00:16:46.640 a child
00:16:47.400 that you
00:16:47.740 made sick
00:16:48.500 so that you
00:16:49.260 can get
00:16:49.620 whatever you
00:16:50.080 want out of
00:16:50.720 the world.
00:16:51.880 Essentially
00:16:52.360 cashing him
00:16:53.160 in as
00:16:53.860 social capital.
00:16:56.800 That's what
00:16:57.400 this mother
00:16:57.800 has been doing.
00:16:58.740 This mother
00:16:59.420 for years
00:17:00.100 has been
00:17:00.540 making this
00:17:01.180 child sick.
00:17:02.040 She has
00:17:02.340 infused
00:17:03.120 gender dysphoria
00:17:04.400 into his
00:17:05.360 head.
00:17:06.180 She has
00:17:06.460 caused it
00:17:07.520 in order
00:17:11.120 to achieve
00:17:12.480 whatever it
00:17:12.980 is she
00:17:13.260 hopes to
00:17:13.620 achieve for
00:17:14.060 herself.
00:17:16.500 And that's
00:17:17.320 one of the
00:17:17.880 reasons why
00:17:18.460 I feel
00:17:19.300 no compunction
00:17:20.120 about being
00:17:21.080 very harsh
00:17:21.660 in my
00:17:22.740 approach to
00:17:23.500 this woman
00:17:23.960 because there
00:17:26.200 is no way
00:17:26.880 in hell,
00:17:27.300 especially when
00:17:27.680 you consider
00:17:27.940 she's a
00:17:28.440 pediatrician,
00:17:29.700 God help
00:17:30.180 us.
00:17:31.240 There is
00:17:31.760 no way
00:17:32.360 in hell
00:17:33.140 she actually
00:17:34.640 believes this
00:17:35.760 nonsense about
00:17:36.880 how there's
00:17:38.580 a daughter
00:17:39.060 trapped inside
00:17:39.720 her son's
00:17:40.140 body.
00:17:40.920 There's no
00:17:41.540 way she
00:17:41.960 really believes
00:17:42.520 that.
00:17:43.120 No one who
00:17:43.840 understands
00:17:44.360 anything about
00:17:45.080 science,
00:17:45.620 anyone who
00:17:45.920 has any
00:17:46.160 medical
00:17:46.560 training,
00:17:47.120 there is
00:17:47.340 no way
00:17:47.740 you possibly
00:17:48.340 believe that,
00:17:49.100 especially when
00:17:49.980 you as the
00:17:50.540 mother know
00:17:51.360 that you
00:17:52.140 have been
00:17:52.520 working on
00:17:53.280 this with
00:17:53.720 the kid
00:17:54.160 practically
00:17:54.860 since he
00:17:55.400 was born.
00:17:57.760 So this
00:17:58.480 is not a
00:17:59.060 case of an
00:18:00.360 unfortunately
00:18:00.820 confused and
00:18:02.160 misled
00:18:02.660 mother.
00:18:03.260 No,
00:18:03.580 that's not
00:18:04.040 what this
00:18:04.400 is.
00:18:08.000 But you
00:18:08.600 see how
00:18:09.100 strong the
00:18:10.300 biological
00:18:10.780 impulse is
00:18:11.820 that this
00:18:12.400 in some
00:18:13.600 ways it
00:18:13.920 makes it
00:18:14.400 even sadder
00:18:15.520 that this
00:18:16.040 poor boy
00:18:16.820 has been
00:18:17.900 resisting this
00:18:18.780 for years.
00:18:19.800 And think
00:18:20.340 about that.
00:18:20.880 Think about
00:18:21.180 what that
00:18:21.600 requires.
00:18:22.380 This has
00:18:22.980 been for
00:18:23.880 years now,
00:18:24.600 since he
00:18:24.860 was three
00:18:25.240 years old,
00:18:26.120 his mother
00:18:26.560 has been
00:18:26.780 trying to
00:18:27.180 brainwash
00:18:27.700 him.
00:18:28.100 But still
00:18:28.840 when he
00:18:29.140 goes to
00:18:29.500 his father's
00:18:30.080 house,
00:18:30.480 it's like
00:18:30.960 he's relieved
00:18:31.620 that he can
00:18:32.060 finally take
00:18:32.680 off the
00:18:33.140 freaking
00:18:33.460 dress and
00:18:34.760 dress like
00:18:35.300 a boy and
00:18:36.480 go and
00:18:37.140 roll around
00:18:37.600 in the mud
00:18:38.020 and do
00:18:38.280 what boys
00:18:38.700 do.
00:18:39.700 He still
00:18:40.640 has that
00:18:41.100 impulse.
00:18:41.540 Now,
00:18:42.560 eventually he
00:18:43.560 will lose
00:18:44.080 it.
00:18:45.240 And this
00:18:45.480 is what
00:18:45.740 will happen
00:18:46.300 after all
00:18:48.060 of this
00:18:48.380 brainwashing.
00:18:49.300 And then
00:18:49.460 they're going
00:18:49.680 to start
00:18:50.000 him on the
00:18:50.380 drugs and
00:18:51.040 they're going
00:18:51.240 to chemically
00:18:51.700 castrate
00:18:52.300 him.
00:18:53.700 And so,
00:18:54.460 you know,
00:18:56.000 10,
00:18:56.520 15 years
00:18:57.160 from now,
00:18:57.660 if you
00:19:00.280 talk to
00:19:00.840 this child
00:19:01.380 who now
00:19:02.880 will be
00:19:03.220 an adult,
00:19:04.540 he'll tell
00:19:05.300 you about
00:19:05.680 how he
00:19:06.100 identifies
00:19:06.620 as a
00:19:07.220 woman and
00:19:07.780 this is
00:19:08.520 who he
00:19:09.400 is deep
00:19:09.820 inside and
00:19:10.420 he's known
00:19:10.860 it since
00:19:11.180 he was a
00:19:11.560 little kid
00:19:12.160 and everything.
00:19:13.400 This is really
00:19:14.080 who he is.
00:19:15.220 That's what
00:19:15.640 he'll tell
00:19:15.980 you because
00:19:16.280 that's what
00:19:16.580 he'll think
00:19:17.000 about himself.
00:19:18.180 People who
00:19:18.600 are brainwashed
00:19:19.540 don't know
00:19:20.240 they've been
00:19:20.720 brainwashed.
00:19:21.420 But the
00:19:24.520 other thing
00:19:24.900 is that
00:19:25.240 even 15
00:19:26.440 years from
00:19:26.940 now,
00:19:27.640 when he
00:19:28.780 is insisting
00:19:29.540 that about
00:19:30.000 himself,
00:19:30.460 that he's
00:19:30.700 really a
00:19:31.060 woman and
00:19:31.500 he's always
00:19:31.880 known this
00:19:32.420 and everything,
00:19:33.860 he still
00:19:34.440 is going
00:19:34.820 to be
00:19:35.320 deeply
00:19:36.200 in misery
00:19:37.400 and depressed
00:19:38.680 because this
00:19:39.580 is,
00:19:40.360 transgender
00:19:41.020 people have
00:19:42.460 massively higher
00:19:43.400 rates of
00:19:43.820 suicide,
00:19:44.760 they have
00:19:44.960 lower life,
00:19:45.700 they have
00:19:45.960 shorter life
00:19:46.880 expectancies
00:19:47.600 and all of
00:19:48.960 that and for
00:19:49.600 all we hear
00:19:50.280 about,
00:19:50.740 oh,
00:19:50.760 it's because
00:19:51.140 of bullying
00:19:51.660 and because
00:19:52.160 they're not
00:19:52.440 accepted in
00:19:53.060 society.
00:19:53.800 No,
00:19:54.060 that's not
00:19:54.660 it.
00:19:56.880 It's because
00:19:57.640 these are
00:19:58.120 people who
00:19:59.380 struggle at
00:20:01.600 such a basic
00:20:02.620 level to
00:20:03.220 accept
00:20:03.940 themselves for
00:20:05.420 who they
00:20:05.880 really are
00:20:06.920 and there
00:20:08.820 is a lot
00:20:09.380 of misery
00:20:09.980 and pain
00:20:10.700 that comes
00:20:11.240 with that
00:20:11.660 and this
00:20:12.380 mother has
00:20:12.880 put that
00:20:13.520 on her
00:20:14.020 child.
00:20:18.740 All right,
00:20:19.560 I almost
00:20:20.060 succeeded in
00:20:20.720 talking about
00:20:21.180 that without
00:20:21.540 screaming.
00:20:22.240 I did the
00:20:22.560 best I
00:20:22.900 could.
00:20:25.360 I hope
00:20:26.420 that,
00:20:27.080 look,
00:20:27.420 this is,
00:20:28.760 I don't
00:20:29.220 know what
00:20:29.520 can be
00:20:29.940 done about
00:20:31.900 this,
00:20:32.440 but I
00:20:33.600 think that
00:20:34.120 the same
00:20:35.840 people in
00:20:36.660 the government
00:20:37.340 down there
00:20:37.740 in Texas,
00:20:38.160 if they can
00:20:40.180 step in,
00:20:40.840 they need to,
00:20:41.520 or at the
00:20:42.200 very least,
00:20:42.920 guys like
00:20:43.400 Ted Cruz
00:20:44.040 and Governor
00:20:44.560 Abbott,
00:20:44.920 they need to
00:20:45.340 speak up and
00:20:46.100 say something
00:20:46.720 about this
00:20:47.460 case.
00:20:48.480 Even if they
00:20:49.080 can't do
00:20:49.580 anything about
00:20:50.180 it, just
00:20:50.520 speak up and
00:20:51.820 defend this
00:20:52.340 child.
00:20:52.860 I know there
00:20:53.200 are a lot of
00:20:53.560 people down
00:20:53.940 there in
00:20:54.220 Texas, a lot
00:20:55.460 of people in
00:20:55.840 the community
00:20:56.300 that have been
00:20:57.160 speaking out and
00:20:58.100 protesting.
00:20:58.720 I think more
00:20:59.120 people need to
00:20:59.840 and people in
00:21:00.460 positions of
00:21:01.040 power there
00:21:02.240 need to speak
00:21:03.240 up.
00:21:04.360 We're at a
00:21:05.160 point now where
00:21:05.960 if you are a
00:21:07.520 sane, decent
00:21:08.300 person and you
00:21:09.180 know better and
00:21:10.680 you know that
00:21:11.220 this is crazy and
00:21:12.240 you understand
00:21:12.920 what's happening
00:21:13.540 to these
00:21:13.860 children, you
00:21:14.680 need to speak
00:21:15.580 up.
00:21:15.820 You can't
00:21:16.380 stay silent
00:21:16.960 anymore.
00:21:17.400 You just
00:21:17.760 can't.
00:21:20.780 All right.
00:21:23.080 Let's move
00:21:25.160 on.
00:21:25.440 We'll see what
00:21:25.740 else we've got
00:21:26.580 going on here.
00:21:27.440 So there was
00:21:27.800 this case.
00:21:31.020 The New York
00:21:31.640 Post is
00:21:32.480 reporting a
00:21:33.100 case out of
00:21:35.460 the University
00:21:35.940 of Connecticut.
00:21:36.420 Let me read a
00:21:38.120 little bit of
00:21:38.500 the New York
00:21:40.880 Post report.
00:21:41.480 It says,
00:21:42.460 two white
00:21:43.380 students at
00:21:44.040 the University
00:21:44.480 of Connecticut
00:21:45.000 were arrested
00:21:46.660 for shouting
00:21:47.580 racial slurs
00:21:48.500 as they
00:21:48.880 walked through
00:21:49.320 a parking
00:21:49.760 lot outside
00:21:50.340 student
00:21:50.700 apartments
00:21:51.160 earlier this
00:21:51.800 month,
00:21:52.540 according to
00:21:52.940 a report.
00:21:54.560 The suspects,
00:21:56.680 21-year-old
00:21:57.480 students Jared
00:21:58.280 Carroll and
00:21:59.420 Ryan
00:21:59.980 Mukaj, I
00:22:01.340 don't know how
00:22:01.560 to pronounce
00:22:01.860 his last
00:22:02.160 name, were
00:22:03.000 arrested by
00:22:03.660 campus police
00:22:04.520 Monday after
00:22:06.180 they were
00:22:06.440 captured on a
00:22:07.000 viral video
00:22:07.600 repeatedly
00:22:08.060 shouting the
00:22:08.720 N-word.
00:22:10.540 Students
00:22:11.020 launched large
00:22:11.940 rallies and
00:22:12.660 protests of the
00:22:13.500 video in the
00:22:14.040 campus chapter of
00:22:14.840 the NAACP
00:22:15.520 demanded school
00:22:16.160 officials take
00:22:16.780 action against
00:22:17.420 the pair.
00:22:18.380 The arrests of
00:22:19.060 Carroll and
00:22:19.600 Mukaj were
00:22:20.420 announced hours
00:22:21.780 after a march
00:22:22.560 against racism.
00:22:24.440 Now get this,
00:22:26.240 these two guys
00:22:27.160 were each charged,
00:22:28.400 they were
00:22:28.640 charged, I'm
00:22:29.620 quoting now,
00:22:30.480 charged with
00:22:31.040 ridicule on
00:22:32.400 account of
00:22:33.000 creed, religion,
00:22:34.060 color, denomination,
00:22:35.240 nationality, or race.
00:22:39.180 Police who
00:22:39.820 investigated the
00:22:40.440 case discovered
00:22:41.000 the two students
00:22:41.660 walked through the
00:22:42.440 woods, through the
00:22:43.700 apartment complex
00:22:44.440 playing a game
00:22:45.760 in which they
00:22:46.940 yelled vulgar
00:22:47.700 words and
00:22:49.280 there was another
00:22:50.140 student who was
00:22:50.620 with them and
00:22:51.260 didn't participate
00:22:51.800 in the game.
00:22:52.180 Okay, charged
00:22:54.360 with ridicule.
00:22:55.040 Actually, back up
00:22:55.700 for a second.
00:22:57.560 So you've got
00:22:58.160 these two guys
00:23:00.080 walking down
00:23:02.940 campus shouting
00:23:03.960 bad words playing
00:23:04.980 a game.
00:23:05.520 Stupid game,
00:23:07.120 I'm sure we all
00:23:07.920 agree, but it's
00:23:08.980 just a game and
00:23:10.180 they're just
00:23:10.940 joking.
00:23:12.760 Inappropriate,
00:23:13.440 fine, you want
00:23:14.220 to say it's
00:23:14.560 offensive, fine,
00:23:15.960 but that's what
00:23:17.580 it is.
00:23:18.840 Before we even
00:23:19.560 get to the fact
00:23:19.960 that they were
00:23:20.340 arrested and
00:23:20.960 charged with a
00:23:21.540 crime, you
00:23:23.900 had marches
00:23:25.900 and rallies
00:23:26.700 about what?
00:23:29.140 Because two
00:23:30.020 kids walking
00:23:31.020 down the street
00:23:31.940 were shouting
00:23:32.800 bad words?
00:23:34.420 What do you
00:23:35.040 need to march
00:23:35.560 against?
00:23:36.420 Yeah, everyone
00:23:37.040 agrees that it's
00:23:38.180 not good that
00:23:38.800 they did that.
00:23:40.220 So what are
00:23:40.620 you, what, of
00:23:42.000 all the things,
00:23:43.560 activism in this
00:23:44.600 country has
00:23:45.300 become so
00:23:46.600 completely
00:23:47.640 frivolous.
00:23:50.520 And you see
00:23:51.740 how desperate
00:23:52.620 people are for
00:23:53.580 a cause.
00:23:54.900 You know, people
00:23:55.340 need a cause to
00:23:56.460 believe in and
00:23:57.320 to fight for.
00:23:58.520 And if you're
00:23:59.080 not going to
00:23:59.740 fight for real
00:24:00.540 causes and for
00:24:01.880 things that really
00:24:02.600 matter, then
00:24:03.540 you're stuck with
00:24:04.160 something like
00:24:04.620 this.
00:24:05.340 Let's take to
00:24:06.220 the streets and
00:24:07.400 march because
00:24:08.480 two guys on
00:24:09.920 the campus
00:24:10.480 said a bad
00:24:11.440 word.
00:24:14.720 My God.
00:24:17.200 Now, but
00:24:18.540 that's, that's,
00:24:19.380 that's even,
00:24:20.940 that's just
00:24:21.320 besides the
00:24:21.840 point because
00:24:22.260 the real issue
00:24:23.060 here is that
00:24:23.720 the police got
00:24:24.500 involved and
00:24:26.080 charged them
00:24:26.820 with ridicule.
00:24:28.780 Did you know
00:24:29.620 that that was
00:24:30.040 even a crime
00:24:30.680 you could be
00:24:31.040 charged with?
00:24:32.020 Ridicule?
00:24:32.500 If that's a
00:24:35.280 criminal offense,
00:24:36.900 then every
00:24:38.600 single person
00:24:39.780 in America
00:24:40.980 should be in
00:24:41.980 jail because
00:24:42.820 everybody in
00:24:43.920 America has
00:24:44.600 engaged in
00:24:45.200 ridicule at
00:24:46.740 some point in
00:24:47.280 their life.
00:24:48.740 Just go on
00:24:49.660 Twitter right
00:24:50.240 now.
00:24:50.720 Go to
00:24:50.980 Twitter and
00:24:52.740 all of those
00:24:54.020 people, arrest
00:24:54.620 all of them.
00:24:55.920 Every single
00:24:56.440 person with a
00:24:56.880 Twitter account,
00:24:57.720 they all, because
00:24:58.140 that's the only
00:24:58.740 reason Twitter
00:24:59.160 exists, to
00:24:59.900 ridicule people.
00:25:00.660 Charged with
00:25:04.080 a crime.
00:25:04.540 So the
00:25:04.820 First Amendment
00:25:05.240 doesn't exist
00:25:05.940 basically is what
00:25:06.520 we're learning.
00:25:07.020 This is just
00:25:07.640 free speech,
00:25:08.820 First Amendment
00:25:09.240 doesn't exist.
00:25:12.600 If you could be
00:25:13.440 charged with a
00:25:13.900 crime for
00:25:14.540 ridiculing, and
00:25:16.060 the thing is,
00:25:17.040 they, it wasn't
00:25:17.940 even ridicule.
00:25:18.760 They weren't
00:25:19.060 even, it's not
00:25:19.980 even like, you
00:25:20.640 can't say, oh,
00:25:21.120 it was harassment.
00:25:21.860 They weren't
00:25:22.140 harassing anyone.
00:25:22.840 They weren't
00:25:23.280 talking to anyone.
00:25:24.660 They were
00:25:24.980 literally just
00:25:25.660 shouting into the
00:25:26.600 thin air.
00:25:28.160 Again, you can,
00:25:29.380 you could say
00:25:30.040 it's stupid,
00:25:30.660 it's offensive,
00:25:31.360 it's fine, I
00:25:32.060 agree with you
00:25:32.720 on that.
00:25:35.600 But who
00:25:36.260 were they
00:25:36.540 ridiculing?
00:25:38.100 Aside from
00:25:38.840 themselves.
00:25:43.380 If, if this
00:25:45.040 is illegal, then
00:25:45.800 the First
00:25:46.100 Amendment doesn't
00:25:46.880 exist.
00:25:47.520 You, you
00:25:48.180 don't, what's,
00:25:49.320 what function
00:25:49.880 does the First
00:25:50.440 Amendment even
00:25:51.180 serve?
00:25:52.820 If the First
00:25:53.620 Amendment doesn't
00:25:55.000 cover this, then
00:25:56.500 what do you even
00:25:57.180 have it for?
00:25:57.800 because the
00:26:00.220 whole point, as
00:26:01.000 many people have
00:26:02.700 pointed out, and
00:26:03.440 as always needs to
00:26:05.080 be pointed out with
00:26:05.680 cases like this, you
00:26:07.480 only need the First
00:26:08.920 Amendment to
00:26:10.320 protect offensive
00:26:11.720 speech that nobody
00:26:12.920 likes.
00:26:13.960 Because if it's
00:26:14.860 unoffensive speech
00:26:16.120 that no one cares
00:26:17.540 about or everyone
00:26:18.240 agrees with, then
00:26:19.760 you don't need a
00:26:20.680 First Amendment at
00:26:21.220 all.
00:26:21.560 We don't, you
00:26:21.900 don't need to
00:26:22.540 specially protect that
00:26:23.660 kind of speech.
00:26:25.140 In fact, you
00:26:25.640 could go anywhere,
00:26:26.620 you could go to
00:26:27.160 North Korea and,
00:26:29.220 and say stuff that
00:26:31.000 people there will
00:26:32.740 agree with and
00:26:34.180 like.
00:26:35.060 You could, now,
00:26:35.840 what, what people
00:26:37.300 will agree with and
00:26:38.080 the kind of speech
00:26:38.600 people will like,
00:26:39.240 that's going to
00:26:39.640 change depending on
00:26:40.860 where you are.
00:26:43.040 But you can go
00:26:44.480 anywhere in the
00:26:45.840 world and say
00:26:47.140 things that are
00:26:48.040 culturally appropriate
00:26:49.660 according to the
00:26:51.300 culture that you
00:26:51.820 happen to be in at
00:26:52.640 the moment.
00:26:54.920 And many of those
00:26:55.840 places, like North
00:26:56.620 Korea, for example,
00:26:57.840 don't have free
00:26:58.380 speech protections.
00:27:01.400 Because in those
00:27:02.440 places they don't
00:27:02.880 have free speech,
00:27:03.600 what they're saying
00:27:04.180 is, yeah, you can
00:27:04.780 say culturally
00:27:05.380 acceptable things,
00:27:06.800 but that's all you
00:27:07.800 can say.
00:27:08.320 You can't say
00:27:08.780 anything that's
00:27:09.180 culturally unacceptable
00:27:10.280 and that's why we
00:27:10.920 don't have a First
00:27:11.420 Amendment in that
00:27:12.760 country.
00:27:16.080 So, that's, that's,
00:27:19.800 that's what it is.
00:27:20.680 So if you say, oh,
00:27:21.920 yes, but it was,
00:27:22.640 it's offensive and
00:27:23.400 horrible, yeah,
00:27:24.140 agreed, agreed,
00:27:24.900 agreed, I agree with
00:27:25.640 all of that.
00:27:28.560 But yes, you can say
00:27:29.880 offensive and horrible
00:27:30.660 things.
00:27:33.240 We act like free
00:27:34.360 speech is this
00:27:35.160 really complicated,
00:27:36.400 complex, really
00:27:37.400 nuanced subject.
00:27:38.840 And maybe there are
00:27:39.600 some nuances to it,
00:27:41.120 yes, but it's not
00:27:42.140 that hard to
00:27:42.920 understand.
00:27:44.100 And for me,
00:27:46.180 when I look at how
00:27:47.460 the First Amendment
00:27:47.980 is written,
00:27:50.360 not the language
00:27:51.300 and the spirit
00:27:52.300 of it, what it was
00:27:53.060 meant to do,
00:27:53.960 it's pretty clear to
00:27:55.220 me that the First
00:27:56.100 Amendment is supposed
00:27:56.820 to give you the
00:27:57.520 right to say
00:27:59.300 whatever you want,
00:28:01.820 provided you are
00:28:03.860 not defaming or
00:28:06.100 slandering someone,
00:28:07.100 or otherwise
00:28:09.860 trying to directly
00:28:15.700 cause physical
00:28:17.120 harm to another
00:28:17.720 person.
00:28:18.160 So the example
00:28:19.160 of shouting
00:28:21.140 fire in a
00:28:22.180 crowded theater,
00:28:22.980 okay, of course
00:28:23.460 you can't do that
00:28:24.240 unless there is a
00:28:25.120 fire.
00:28:26.520 But if there isn't,
00:28:27.360 you can't do that,
00:28:27.800 that is going to
00:28:28.340 directly cause harm
00:28:29.720 to people.
00:28:30.260 It could cause harm
00:28:31.360 from the stampede of
00:28:32.260 people running out of
00:28:32.940 the theater, it'll
00:28:34.020 cause harm to the
00:28:34.820 business that you've
00:28:35.640 just, where you've
00:28:36.180 just caused all
00:28:36.740 these people to go
00:28:37.300 running out.
00:28:38.660 So yes, that's
00:28:39.580 going to cause
00:28:39.900 direct harm.
00:28:42.820 But other than
00:28:43.620 that, you can say
00:28:45.200 whatever you want,
00:28:45.780 that's the way it
00:28:46.280 should be.
00:28:47.520 And there's no
00:28:48.260 real downside.
00:28:49.620 So you think about
00:28:50.340 what's the downside?
00:28:51.900 So we have to
00:28:52.620 compare.
00:28:53.740 On one hand, you
00:28:54.920 could have a crime
00:28:55.920 against ridicule and
00:28:57.360 arrest people for it.
00:29:00.940 Or you could say,
00:29:02.800 well, basically say
00:29:03.820 whatever you want as
00:29:04.520 long as you're not
00:29:04.940 directly causing harm
00:29:06.780 to another person.
00:29:08.760 What's the downside
00:29:09.760 to that first plan?
00:29:12.780 Having a crime
00:29:13.620 against, having a law
00:29:15.040 against ridicule.
00:29:17.620 Well, the plus side
00:29:18.700 is, I guess, you're
00:29:19.600 protecting people's
00:29:20.300 feelings.
00:29:20.780 Okay.
00:29:21.300 The downside is
00:29:22.760 you have created
00:29:25.080 this subjective
00:29:26.600 law where the people
00:29:30.140 in power get to
00:29:31.580 decide, because what
00:29:32.360 counts as ridicule,
00:29:33.320 you would talk about
00:29:33.840 hate speech.
00:29:36.640 I was talking about
00:29:38.240 this on Twitter and
00:29:39.060 some people were
00:29:39.580 saying, oh, what
00:29:41.080 do you support hate
00:29:42.520 speech now?
00:29:44.420 No, I don't support
00:29:45.480 hate speech in the
00:29:47.500 sense of supporting
00:29:49.100 the content and
00:29:50.460 advocating that people
00:29:51.400 engage in it,
00:29:52.180 whatever it is, but
00:29:53.260 that's the point.
00:29:53.960 What is it?
00:29:55.460 Something like
00:29:56.040 ridicule, hate
00:29:56.840 speech, that is
00:29:57.640 subjective.
00:29:59.160 It's going to depend
00:30:00.020 on your perspective.
00:30:03.660 So, you can have a
00:30:05.080 crime against
00:30:05.440 ridicule, plus
00:30:06.220 side is, protect
00:30:08.240 people's feelings,
00:30:09.380 some people's
00:30:10.060 feelings, sometimes.
00:30:11.940 Downside is, now
00:30:13.000 you have given this
00:30:13.680 authority to the
00:30:14.300 people in power to
00:30:15.700 subjectively determine
00:30:17.100 what they consider to
00:30:19.120 be hate speech and
00:30:20.560 ridicule, and then to
00:30:23.260 clamp down on speech
00:30:25.400 by that standard.
00:30:29.520 On the other hand, we
00:30:30.920 could say, let's not
00:30:31.860 do that, and let's
00:30:33.860 let people say
00:30:35.020 whatever they want,
00:30:35.740 as long as they're
00:30:36.280 not directly causing
00:30:37.180 harm to another
00:30:37.680 person.
00:30:39.420 Plus side is, now
00:30:41.020 we've got free speech,
00:30:42.120 we live in a free
00:30:42.780 country, people are
00:30:44.120 protected in their
00:30:45.100 ability to express
00:30:46.060 themselves.
00:30:47.860 What's the downside?
00:30:49.040 Downside is, people
00:30:50.700 are going to be
00:30:51.100 allowed to say some
00:30:52.240 tasteless things, some
00:30:54.700 crass and crude
00:30:55.480 things, and it
00:30:56.500 might be kind of
00:30:57.000 annoying to listen
00:30:57.720 to, and it might
00:30:58.480 even hurt your
00:30:59.020 feelings.
00:30:59.560 That's the downside.
00:31:01.440 So on one hand, the
00:31:02.220 downside is tyranny.
00:31:04.460 On the other hand, the
00:31:05.980 downside is hurt
00:31:08.080 feelings.
00:31:14.040 Which one, which is
00:31:16.240 the better course of
00:31:16.920 action?
00:31:17.220 It seems obvious to
00:31:18.040 me.
00:31:21.980 All right.
00:31:23.380 I guess I've got to be
00:31:24.220 careful now, doing
00:31:26.060 this show, if ridicule
00:31:28.780 is against the law.
00:31:29.760 I might be, I've got
00:31:30.660 to be honest, I'm
00:31:31.440 probably in a lot of
00:31:32.120 trouble.
00:31:32.740 Let's go to emails,
00:31:33.560 mattwalshow at
00:31:34.280 gmail.com, mattwalshow
00:31:35.940 at gmail.com.
00:31:37.920 This is from Trevor,
00:31:39.440 says, your tweets
00:31:40.800 about pitbulls are what
00:31:42.020 I expect from leftists.
00:31:43.780 Should we ban guns
00:31:44.920 too?
00:31:45.280 Your arguments
00:31:45.760 against pitbulls are
00:31:46.680 the exact arguments
00:31:47.580 leftists use.
00:31:48.880 You need to get off
00:31:49.660 this crusade because
00:31:50.760 you're embarrassing
00:31:51.440 yourself.
00:31:52.100 Pitbulls don't kill
00:31:52.980 people, bad owners
00:31:54.160 do, in all caps.
00:31:55.540 Raise your pitbull
00:31:56.320 right and it's not a
00:31:57.300 problem.
00:31:59.420 Hi, Trevor.
00:32:00.140 Yes, Trevor
00:32:00.720 references back and
00:32:02.340 forth on social media
00:32:03.180 between me and a
00:32:03.840 bunch of pitbull
00:32:04.440 owners who are
00:32:05.860 famously a pretty
00:32:06.760 irrational bunch.
00:32:07.820 No offense.
00:32:09.100 It's just that when it
00:32:10.280 comes to social media
00:32:11.240 mobs, I found that
00:32:12.960 Beyonce fans are the
00:32:15.340 most irrational and
00:32:16.500 then a close second
00:32:18.020 would be pitbull
00:32:21.500 owners.
00:32:21.800 It kind of goes like
00:32:22.900 that.
00:32:23.140 And then probably
00:32:23.460 Star Wars fans are
00:32:24.440 right after.
00:32:24.920 That's sort of the
00:32:25.680 unholy trinity of
00:32:26.920 irrational Twitter
00:32:28.540 mobs.
00:32:29.540 I don't remember what
00:32:30.260 started this particular
00:32:31.280 round of argument on
00:32:32.100 the subject.
00:32:32.760 I think it was, yeah,
00:32:34.100 it was, it was, okay,
00:32:35.040 it was, I saw a tweet
00:32:37.100 that someone posted.
00:32:38.900 And pitbull owners are
00:32:40.080 always doing this.
00:32:40.800 It's the dumbest
00:32:41.460 argument where they go,
00:32:42.940 oh yeah, pitbulls are
00:32:43.960 real aggressive, huh?
00:32:45.040 Well, well, look at
00:32:45.780 this dangerous beast.
00:32:46.940 And then they, it's a
00:32:48.300 picture of their pitbull,
00:32:49.340 you know, cutely
00:32:49.880 snuggling on a, on a,
00:32:51.440 on a, on a furry carpet
00:32:53.100 next to a fireplace as if
00:32:55.180 that somehow proves that
00:32:57.100 pitbulls are safe.
00:32:58.140 As if a, as if a picture of
00:33:00.120 a pitbull not killing people
00:33:02.020 proves that pitbulls don't
00:33:04.360 kill people.
00:33:05.220 As if the cuteness of an
00:33:07.040 animal somehow correlates
00:33:09.080 with its relative safety.
00:33:10.300 Now, if that's true, then
00:33:12.520 grizzly bears, I guess,
00:33:13.840 are the safest animals in
00:33:15.220 the world.
00:33:16.120 Oh, you think grizzly
00:33:16.900 bears will eat your face?
00:33:18.160 Well, look at this picture
00:33:19.060 of a grizzly bear not
00:33:20.480 eating anyone's face.
00:33:22.140 Checkmate.
00:33:24.040 Just really dumb.
00:33:26.500 Here's the statistical
00:33:27.540 reality.
00:33:28.880 And you can go ahead and
00:33:29.860 you can Google this in
00:33:30.740 fact check me.
00:33:31.780 Don't take my word for it.
00:33:34.040 By far, by far, the most
00:33:36.960 lethal breed of dog in the
00:33:38.700 country is the pitbull.
00:33:39.760 They kill more people than
00:33:42.060 any other breed of dog.
00:33:43.460 It's not close.
00:33:44.840 They win that horrible
00:33:46.140 competition by a landslide.
00:33:48.060 And that's not even
00:33:48.840 counting all the people who
00:33:49.820 are mauled by pitbulls
00:33:51.080 and don't die.
00:33:53.940 There's information on the
00:33:54.940 website dogbitelaw.com.
00:33:57.120 You can go check it out.
00:33:57.760 It has a report showing that
00:33:59.200 in many parts of the
00:33:59.880 country, pitbulls not only
00:34:01.760 lead in mauling deaths, but
00:34:04.460 they also lead in dog bite
00:34:06.160 incidents at all, period.
00:34:07.820 So they bite the most
00:34:09.120 people and they're the most
00:34:10.820 likely to kill you when
00:34:12.360 they do bite you.
00:34:13.820 And this says nothing of
00:34:15.000 all the other dogs that are
00:34:16.180 attacked by pitbulls, which
00:34:17.820 is far more common even
00:34:19.120 than that.
00:34:19.900 Let me read a quick email
00:34:20.920 from someone else who sent
00:34:22.340 me on this subject.
00:34:24.220 Someone who worked at an
00:34:25.320 animal shelter.
00:34:27.360 This is from Erin.
00:34:28.560 This is what she had to
00:34:29.380 say.
00:34:29.600 She said, I'm a registered
00:34:30.320 veterinary technician from
00:34:31.380 California.
00:34:31.780 I worked at a municipal
00:34:32.740 animal shelter where we
00:34:33.960 receive the bite dogs to
00:34:37.120 either keep until their
00:34:38.080 rabies hold was up or to
00:34:39.620 euthanize if the owners
00:34:40.760 wanted.
00:34:42.960 A rabies hold is the
00:34:44.140 period of time a dog is
00:34:45.140 kept under observation to
00:34:46.240 ensure the dog doesn't have
00:34:47.280 any rabies symptoms if no
00:34:48.680 rabies vaccine is on file.
00:34:50.640 Bite dogs, in quotes, come in
00:34:52.700 many breeds and sizes, but the
00:34:54.140 worst, always the very worst
00:34:56.140 bites were bully breeds.
00:34:57.700 It was absolutely terrifying the
00:34:59.240 damage those dogs can and will
00:35:00.940 do.
00:35:01.680 I used to advocate for them
00:35:03.080 and I was staunchly against
00:35:04.180 breed-specific legislation, but
00:35:08.560 after seeing the damage they
00:35:09.840 do, I wish they would breed
00:35:11.600 them all out.
00:35:12.840 Multiple times a week we
00:35:14.100 receive reports of these
00:35:15.720 four-legged terrorists ripping
00:35:17.220 apart other animals and
00:35:18.820 generally once a week there was
00:35:20.040 a tragic human incident.
00:35:21.760 There's no reason for this.
00:35:22.840 There are dozens of other
00:35:23.780 breeds out there.
00:35:24.700 Why are people so weird about
00:35:26.180 bully breeds?
00:35:27.640 And that's the thing about
00:35:28.500 pit bulls.
00:35:29.280 It's not just that they're
00:35:30.520 naturally aggressive, though
00:35:31.720 they are.
00:35:32.260 It's that they're built
00:35:34.520 biologically to inflict
00:35:36.120 maximum damage.
00:35:38.820 Okay?
00:35:39.880 That's, this is also why it's
00:35:42.680 dumb to own many other kinds
00:35:45.280 of animals.
00:35:45.960 You see people who have
00:35:47.540 pythons as pets.
00:35:50.800 Now, pythons can be
00:35:53.220 temperamental, but that's not
00:35:54.540 even the main point.
00:35:55.440 The point is, because they're
00:35:56.420 snakes, but the point is that
00:35:58.240 they are built to be killing
00:36:00.000 machines.
00:36:00.700 That's the problem.
00:36:02.700 And you hear these tragic
00:36:03.600 cases of a pet python
00:36:05.780 killing a child or whatever.
00:36:07.020 It doesn't happen all that
00:36:07.860 often, but it does happen.
00:36:10.580 And since it's an animal,
00:36:11.860 this is an animal we're
00:36:13.120 talking about, right?
00:36:14.600 So you can never really know
00:36:16.160 how they're going to react or
00:36:17.480 what's going on inside their
00:36:18.700 head.
00:36:18.960 You can't reason with them,
00:36:20.700 and you can't really ever
00:36:22.120 trust them completely,
00:36:23.740 because you don't know what,
00:36:27.360 no, nobody really understands
00:36:29.840 animal psychology.
00:36:32.020 Nobody really understands human
00:36:33.420 psychology all the way.
00:36:34.500 Forget about animal psychology.
00:36:37.700 So when you, you have a pitbull,
00:36:39.040 he's, I have a pitbull, we'll
00:36:39.860 never do that.
00:36:40.520 My pitbull's a sweetie.
00:36:41.900 You don't know what the hell your
00:36:43.220 pitbull is thinking.
00:36:44.220 You have no idea.
00:36:45.480 You have no clue.
00:36:46.740 Yes, you could have general
00:36:49.940 sort of confidence that a
00:36:51.620 particular dog is safe, but you
00:36:53.900 can't know for sure about any
00:36:56.600 dog.
00:36:58.600 And you might say, well, then
00:36:59.860 what are you saying?
00:37:00.540 We should, you should, we
00:37:01.800 should just get rid of all
00:37:02.600 dogs.
00:37:03.100 No, I'm saying that because you
00:37:05.980 can never be sure with an
00:37:07.300 animal, because an animal is an
00:37:08.820 animal, that's why it's probably
00:37:10.920 best not to bring animals into
00:37:12.860 your home that could kill
00:37:15.260 somebody if they wanted to.
00:37:18.900 There's just no good reason to
00:37:20.400 do that.
00:37:22.260 Okay, so we'll do this exercise
00:37:24.240 again.
00:37:24.640 On the one hand, we have all the
00:37:26.140 stats proving beyond any doubt
00:37:27.640 that pitbulls are the most
00:37:28.580 dangerous breed of dog.
00:37:30.360 We have all the news stories of
00:37:32.940 pitbulls mauling children to
00:37:35.060 death.
00:37:35.820 We have all the other dogs that
00:37:37.040 have been mauled and killed by
00:37:38.140 pitbulls.
00:37:38.860 And that's why you shouldn't own
00:37:40.260 them.
00:37:41.860 As far as why you should, on the
00:37:43.400 other hand, I mean, what,
00:37:44.680 what, to outweigh all of that
00:37:48.460 statistical information, what can
00:37:51.460 you possibly present?
00:37:53.140 What's the argument for owning
00:37:55.080 them?
00:37:55.980 I'm not talking about an argument
00:37:57.660 that attempts to rationalize or
00:38:00.600 get around or evade the points
00:38:02.420 that I just made.
00:38:03.240 What is a positive, affirmative
00:38:05.240 argument for why it is good to own
00:38:07.520 them?
00:38:08.320 Because they're cute?
00:38:09.840 Because you like them?
00:38:11.020 It's just, it's not a, it's, there's
00:38:16.620 no good reason for it.
00:38:18.720 Now, as, Trevor, as for your
00:38:20.680 arguments, such as they are, you
00:38:22.240 say the argument against pitbulls is
00:38:24.520 like making an argument against gun
00:38:25.860 rights.
00:38:26.780 This is enormously stupid, but I hear
00:38:28.960 it from pitbull people all the time.
00:38:30.720 It is such a bad argument.
00:38:32.020 First of all, guns are inanimate
00:38:33.660 objects.
00:38:34.460 They don't, they don't have minds of
00:38:35.620 their own.
00:38:36.340 They're not going to hop over your
00:38:37.520 fence and go and shoot your
00:38:39.080 neighbor's kid on their own.
00:38:40.220 That's not going to happen.
00:38:42.140 Dogs are not inanimate objects.
00:38:44.080 They are animals with minds, minds
00:38:46.600 that we don't fully understand.
00:38:48.280 So this analogy just doesn't work.
00:38:49.680 The fact that dogs are not inanimate
00:38:52.480 objects and are animals that cannot
00:38:54.940 always be 100% controlled is the
00:38:58.080 point.
00:38:59.060 So to bring up some inanimate object
00:39:01.300 that has to be directly operated by
00:39:02.940 another person completely misses the
00:39:05.220 point.
00:39:06.800 Second, you don't have a constitutional
00:39:09.040 right to own whatever animal you want.
00:39:11.520 So that's another reason why that
00:39:12.780 analogy doesn't work.
00:39:14.620 If you, if there was such a
00:39:16.260 constitutional right, then you'd be
00:39:18.200 able to own bears and tigers and
00:39:20.480 chimps and any law against that would
00:39:22.820 be unconstitutional, which obviously
00:39:24.700 would be crazy.
00:39:27.260 So, um, you say pitbulls don't kill
00:39:29.980 people, bad owners do.
00:39:31.260 Now that's wrong.
00:39:32.020 Pitbulls definitely do kill people.
00:39:33.640 Uh, they do.
00:39:35.560 That's just a fact.
00:39:37.760 Um, now there might be pitbull owners
00:39:40.020 who also kill people, but that's a
00:39:41.600 separate subject.
00:39:42.340 The fact is pitbulls kill people.
00:39:44.800 Pitbulls are living creatures.
00:39:45.980 They aren't robots.
00:39:46.980 They aren't remote control toys.
00:39:49.000 Uh, pitbulls kill people on their own.
00:39:51.240 Yes, they do.
00:39:52.260 To the bad owner thing.
00:39:53.720 Okay.
00:39:53.960 And you hear this too.
00:39:54.640 This is the other, this is the other
00:39:55.700 common rationalization.
00:39:56.860 Oh, pitbulls, uh, it's all about the
00:39:59.160 owner.
00:39:59.400 Sure.
00:40:01.040 I agree that a pitbull with a bad
00:40:02.440 owner is going to probably be more
00:40:03.780 dangerous than a pitbull with a good
00:40:05.040 owner, but how do you ensure that the
00:40:07.460 owners are good?
00:40:09.460 What does it mean to be a good owner?
00:40:11.020 And how do you ensure that?
00:40:12.280 Are we doing, are we doing, uh, yearly
00:40:14.320 checkups to make sure that the owner is
00:40:16.340 still doing everything he's supposed to
00:40:17.400 do?
00:40:19.040 How could you possibly know?
00:40:22.120 There might be some basic red flags you
00:40:24.160 could look for.
00:40:24.800 Like, has this person been convicted of
00:40:26.520 dogfighting before?
00:40:27.520 Okay.
00:40:27.780 Well then yeah, sure.
00:40:28.520 That's probably not someone that should
00:40:29.560 get a pitbull, but other than that, if
00:40:31.940 it's just a normal looking person coming
00:40:33.580 in to adopt a pitbull, how are you
00:40:37.360 supposed to know if they're good or
00:40:38.860 not?
00:40:41.140 Um, and, and besides, isn't it really
00:40:45.000 foolish and reckless and insane to bring
00:40:47.480 an animal into your home who might rip
00:40:49.440 you apart limb from limb if you are not
00:40:51.440 fully attentive to it all the time and a
00:40:53.460 perfect owner in every way?
00:40:55.780 People tell me you just got to get pitbulls
00:40:57.900 a lot of attention.
00:40:58.700 Okay, but if you don't give them
00:41:00.340 attention, then what?
00:41:02.120 They'll kill something?
00:41:04.840 Yeah, I agree.
00:41:06.120 Yes, if you have one, give it attention, do
00:41:08.280 all that stuff.
00:41:09.020 But the, the problem is that the, the
00:41:12.240 downside to not being a great owner is
00:41:16.040 immense.
00:41:18.240 And it's not fair to put your community
00:41:21.020 in that position where we have to pay the
00:41:23.900 price if you fail as an owner.
00:41:27.160 Now, if somebody owns a poodle and they're
00:41:29.520 not a great poodle owner, then what does the
00:41:32.240 community have to deal with?
00:41:33.020 They have to deal with that yapping dog,
00:41:34.560 which is pretty annoying.
00:41:35.360 And worst case, the dog bites somebody and
00:41:38.800 it hurts and there's a little bit of a
00:41:40.180 mark, uh, and you know, and, and, and that's
00:41:43.220 it.
00:41:43.420 That's the worst case with a poodle.
00:41:47.880 If you were to compare all of the people, all
00:41:51.080 of the humans in history who have been killed
00:41:53.020 by poodles, I doubt it would even add up to
00:41:55.520 how many people that the pitbulls kill in one,
00:41:58.820 in one year.
00:42:00.080 So that's the issue.
00:42:01.420 Other kinds of dogs, if you have a owner who
00:42:04.560 isn't great, that's not good, but the price the
00:42:10.360 community will have to pay is relatively
00:42:13.320 negligible.
00:42:14.240 The problem though, with a pit bull is the
00:42:16.440 price the community has to pay.
00:42:18.040 If you're not raising the dog, right?
00:42:19.960 Is potentially fatal.
00:42:23.960 And so maybe it's best just to not bring those
00:42:29.160 animals into a community, you know, just choose
00:42:33.900 from any of the other dog breeds.
00:42:36.580 You don't need that one.
00:42:40.360 Okay.
00:42:42.420 This is from Kyle says, dear Matt, I wanted to
00:42:44.700 get your opinion on a recent experience.
00:42:46.280 I had the gas station.
00:42:47.480 I've honestly never run into this, but my wife
00:42:49.380 said it happens to her regularly and I wanted
00:42:51.220 to get your thoughts.
00:42:52.560 I was at a gas station with my family and every
00:42:54.780 pump was occupied.
00:42:55.840 I chose one where I thought the car ahead of
00:42:57.560 me was about to leave, but the occupant started
00:42:59.300 walking in the direction of the convenience
00:43:00.740 store.
00:43:01.300 He looked at my car sitting in a position where
00:43:03.360 my intention to put gas in my car could not
00:43:05.080 be misunderstood.
00:43:06.280 And I firmly believe he started walking slower in
00:43:09.540 shock and desperation.
00:43:10.280 I looked at the next pump where the man was
00:43:12.340 carefully washing every single glass surface on
00:43:14.560 the outside of his car with the squeegee and he
00:43:17.020 wasn't simultaneously pumping gas.
00:43:19.460 I could not believe the level of rudeness.
00:43:21.380 These two people exhibited.
00:43:22.940 I have less issue with either of these activities.
00:43:24.880 If the gas station is empty, or even if you're
00:43:26.760 trying to kill two birds with one stone while
00:43:28.580 pumping gas at the same time, but doing it while
00:43:30.660 you're watching people wait for a pump is outrageous.
00:43:33.560 Would this crime be worthy of the death penalty when
00:43:36.520 you are a supreme dictator?
00:43:41.700 Yes, Kyle, to go, first of all, I'm sorry you had
00:43:44.780 to go through that.
00:43:45.880 And so you have my condolences.
00:43:49.440 To go to the convenience store after you've already
00:43:51.920 pumped the gas, when all the pumps are full, rather
00:43:56.420 than just drive to the actual parking spots, because
00:43:59.480 every gas station with a convenience store attached also
00:44:03.860 has its own parking spaces that are not next to pumps
00:44:06.760 that you could just drive over to, but to, but because
00:44:09.460 you don't feel like doing that, leaving your car in the
00:44:11.820 spot while it's busy is beyond the bounds of human
00:44:14.900 decency.
00:44:15.500 I completely agree with you, Kyle.
00:44:17.980 Sociopathic does not even begin to describe it, honestly.
00:44:20.300 There is no excuse.
00:44:21.900 It should go without saying.
00:44:23.200 If it's a busy gas station, you pump your gas and you get
00:44:27.720 the hell out.
00:44:28.300 You don't pass go, collect 200, you don't do any of that.
00:44:33.860 Pump your gas, get out.
00:44:36.240 You don't squeegee, you don't go to the convenience store, you
00:44:39.460 don't start clearing out all the old Pepsi bottles and coffee
00:44:43.600 cups from the floor of your passenger side.
00:44:47.440 You don't do any of that.
00:44:49.760 You don't sit there and text on your phone, pump and go.
00:44:53.420 So I agree with you, Kyle, this should be understood common
00:44:58.660 practice.
00:44:59.540 But, you know, we, there are people who are barbarians in this
00:45:03.720 society, Kyle.
00:45:05.800 As for penalties under my regime, if you go into the store and
00:45:10.380 you leave your car there, when you come out to your car, it
00:45:15.320 will be doused, it will be doused in gasoline and it will be on
00:45:18.980 fire.
00:45:19.300 And then you will be expected to pay for the additional gasoline
00:45:24.280 that had to be used in order to torch your car.
00:45:27.700 And then, you know what's coming next, you are going to be thrown
00:45:32.200 into the fire.
00:45:36.140 Now, you might argue that this will only slow the process down
00:45:41.500 more now that we've had to, you know, do an execution via fire in
00:45:47.120 the middle of the gas station.
00:45:48.160 You might also argue that it could be potentially dangerous that
00:45:51.040 we have this huge fire right next to a bunch of gas pumps.
00:45:54.000 But listen, these are sacrifices that I would be willing to make
00:45:57.560 to see that justice is done.
00:46:00.540 And I want you to know that you have my solemn promise that I will
00:46:04.340 go to any lengths, as long as I am not personally inconvenienced by
00:46:08.980 them, to see that justice is done.
00:46:12.840 Vote for me.
00:46:14.720 And we will leave it there.
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