The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 354 - Court Sanctioned Child Abuse

00:00:00.000 I am going to try my level best here.

00:00:07.100 I'm going to really try, folks.

00:00:09.240 I will attempt to remain calm, to not start screaming as we discuss this story,

00:00:15.100 but I must admit that I am fairly seething with a deep and primal rage at the moment.

00:00:22.860 Now, if you watch this show, you know that the thing that sets me off more than anything else

00:00:28.660 the thing that sends me into spasms of anger on this show is when children are hurt, exploited, abused.

00:00:38.240 And you might say, well, obviously that upsets you.

00:00:41.120 That upsets everybody.

00:00:42.900 Well, it should, shouldn't it?

00:00:45.560 But it doesn't.

00:00:47.860 I shouldn't have to sit here and say, I really hate child abuse.

00:00:51.660 I'm against it.

00:00:53.720 That shouldn't be the kind of thing that you even need to talk about on a show like this

00:00:57.820 because it should be something we all agree on, should be a position we all share

00:01:04.080 so that talking about it would be redundant and unnecessary.

00:01:07.160 But guys, we live in a country where, in fact, lots of people and lots of powerful people,

00:01:15.760 as we will see in a minute, are fully in favor of child abuse in many forms.

00:01:20.780 They're in favor of killing children in the womb.

00:01:25.040 And if the child manages to escape the womb with his life intact, then these same people,

00:01:30.540 these disgusting, monstrous scumbags, will set to work attempting to destroy the child emotionally,

00:01:38.800 psychologically, through all manner of physical and emotional and psychological and sexual abuse

00:01:45.200 and exploitation.

00:01:47.360 There are many people, and again, many powerful people in our country,

00:01:50.780 who see children as objects that can be exploited and used or just discarded if you don't want them.

00:01:58.700 That's the backdrop here as we get into the topic at hand.

00:02:02.540 And the topic at hand is the case of James Younger, a seven-year-old boy, son of Jeff Younger

00:02:10.520 and quote-unquote mother Anne Georgilis.

00:02:14.840 Anne Georgilis, by the way, is not only the quote-unquote mother, but she's also a quote-unquote doctor,

00:02:20.940 a pediatrician of all things.

00:02:24.940 Now, so let's back up here and do some background on this case.

00:02:32.540 So Jeff and Anne, and I guess I'm just going to use their first names here as we talk about it

00:02:38.600 just because it's easier.

00:02:40.180 So Jeff and Anne were married but ended up getting divorced.

00:02:44.320 Actually, I think it might have been an annulment.

00:02:45.740 I'm not sure.

00:02:46.240 Don't quote me on that.

00:02:47.460 But in any case, the marriage ended one way or another.

00:02:50.540 And as is usually the case with these sorts of things, the quote-unquote mother was given most of the rights 1.00

00:02:58.240 over the child because that's the sort of default position that the courts have,

00:03:03.160 that family courts have most of the time, where they're just going to assume that the mother 1.00

00:03:07.300 is the more fit parent because she's a woman. 1.00

00:03:09.920 But remember, women are the ones who are legally oppressed in this country. 1.00

00:03:13.620 Remember that.

00:03:14.320 Anyway, the mother is given most of the power over the child. 0.98

00:03:19.080 Eventually, the mother decides that the boy, James, is actually a girl named Luna.

00:03:29.080 Now, remember that James right now is seven years old.

00:03:33.980 So he's very, very young.

00:03:35.420 But this all started a few years ago.

00:03:37.560 In fact, he was three years old when it started.

00:03:40.420 He was three when the mother decided that he was a girl.

00:03:46.460 Do you want to know how the quote-unquote mother made this discovery?

00:03:51.260 Well, an article in the Texan explains it.

00:03:55.000 So here's a quote from the Texan article.

00:03:58.740 It says,

00:03:59.120 Conflict arose in the next few years, and their marriage was eventually annulled.

00:04:02.640 While the court made the parents joint managing conservators,

00:04:08.640 Georgilis was given exclusive rights and duties while youngers were limited.

00:04:15.240 Georgilis says that James first wanted a girl's toy from McDonald's

00:04:20.900 and soon after started imitating the female characters from Disney's Frozen

00:04:27.460 and asked to wear dresses.

00:04:32.100 She says she then contacted the Genesis Clinic at Children's Hospital Center,

00:04:36.900 and they referred her to Rebecca Ower for counseling. 0.98

00:04:43.540 And then that person recommended a process of affirmation.

00:04:48.320 And they thought that a social transition for James to begin going to school

00:04:52.880 dressed as a girl named Luna would be in his best interest.

00:04:55.840 So that's how the quote-unquote mother figured out that little James is really just a shell.

00:05:05.620 James really didn't exist, it turns out.

00:05:08.660 James was a shell.

00:05:09.880 He was a James shell. 0.86

00:05:11.580 But trapped inside that shell of a body was this little girl named Luna

00:05:15.620 who was just itching to get out.

00:05:17.820 This is science, by the way.

00:05:21.160 This is all science.

00:05:23.760 And she figured that out because James wanted a girl toy from McDonald's.

00:05:28.760 Oh, and he also likes the movie Frozen.

00:05:32.280 Well, that's it then.

00:05:33.940 That settles it.

00:05:35.320 Eureka!

00:05:36.760 I mean, there couldn't possibly be any other explanation

00:05:39.960 for why this boy was interested in a Disney film.

00:05:45.720 Couldn't possibly be any other explanation.

00:05:47.820 He must really be a girl. 0.98

00:05:51.160 I said I wasn't going to scream.

00:05:54.000 Let me pull back a little bit.

00:05:56.240 Now, of course, by this standard,

00:05:58.660 literally every other,

00:06:00.500 every boy by this standard is a girl. 0.80

00:06:04.040 And every girl's a boy. 0.77

00:06:05.820 Because every boy is interested in some things

00:06:09.180 that are associated with girls.

00:06:10.900 And every little girl is interested

00:06:12.160 in some things that are associated with boys.

00:06:14.200 So if that's the case,

00:06:15.060 then every girl's a boy,

00:06:16.260 every boy's a girl,

00:06:17.040 nothing means anything.

00:06:17.940 What does it even matter in that case?

00:06:22.960 And by the way,

00:06:24.180 I thought we were done gendering toys, right?

00:06:28.080 I thought there was no such thing as a girl toy or a boy toy.

00:06:31.620 Wasn't that the whole thing with Target

00:06:33.040 where they stopped,

00:06:34.040 they didn't have the girl toy aisle

00:06:35.560 or the boy toy aisle anymore?

00:06:37.460 Because whether you're a boy or a girl,

00:06:39.460 you can play with any toy.

00:06:40.360 I thought that was the point.

00:06:41.600 But now you're saying

00:06:42.440 that if a boy plays with a toy

00:06:44.160 that's associated with girls, 1.00

00:06:45.400 it's really an indication

00:06:46.260 that he actually is a girl trapped

00:06:47.960 in a boy's body.

00:06:49.120 So have you not just then reaffirmed

00:06:51.460 the gendering of toys? 0.98

00:06:56.660 Except for the quote-unquote mother,

00:07:00.740 there was a hiccup.

00:07:01.420 Because when James went to his father's house,

00:07:04.580 he was still identifying as a boy.

00:07:06.460 Imagine that.

00:07:07.560 And going by the name James

00:07:09.040 and wearing boy clothes and all of that

00:07:10.760 because he is a boy

00:07:11.640 and he wants to be a boy.

00:07:13.280 The quote-unquote mother couldn't have that. 0.97

00:07:15.460 She couldn't allow the father

00:07:16.660 to interfere with the abuse of the child.

00:07:20.760 She really had been putting a lot of effort

00:07:25.940 into abusing this child

00:07:27.420 and she didn't want the father

00:07:28.740 interfering with that.

00:07:30.000 So eventually it goes to the courts.

00:07:33.120 Both parents fighting essentially for sole custody

00:07:35.780 and the court just ruled yesterday.

00:07:38.480 This is in Texas, remember.

00:07:40.680 In Texas.

00:07:42.400 The court ruled yesterday against the father.

00:07:45.540 The mother is now given

00:07:48.200 basically soul power and authority.

00:07:51.260 The father will probably not get

00:07:54.000 any unsupervised visits with his own son

00:07:57.060 who I guess the court believes is really his daughter.

00:08:00.700 And the mother can now, if she wants,

00:08:04.280 start the process of chemically castrating the boy.

00:08:07.040 She can now force him to live full-time as a girl 1.00

00:08:11.500 and she can poison him with chemicals 1.00

00:08:13.340 to permanently alter his body

00:08:15.460 so that she can live out her fantasies.

00:08:20.420 Fantasies that she has imposed on her child.

00:08:23.980 Well, actually, not really her child.

00:08:26.000 That's the icing on the cake here.

00:08:27.580 I've been calling her the quote-unquote mother 0.99

00:08:29.440 because she is an abusive monster 1.00

00:08:31.960 and does not deserve to be called the mother. 0.80

00:08:34.400 She is not a mother.

00:08:35.680 She is not acting like one.

00:08:37.180 She is not, this is not how mothers behave. 1.00

00:08:39.760 She doesn't deserve,

00:08:41.120 so it's only for lack of a better term

00:08:43.580 that I use this term, mother, for her.

00:08:45.920 But it's also worth noting

00:08:47.100 that actually, technically,

00:08:49.500 she isn't even biologically the mother.

00:08:53.060 The child was conceived with a donor egg.

00:08:55.640 She isn't even biologically related to this kid.

00:08:58.660 And yet she has been given the power to do what she wants

00:09:04.600 to him and with him.

00:09:06.880 It's amazing.

00:09:09.280 Now, it's true that James doesn't really want to be a girl.

00:09:13.900 This identity has been foisted on him

00:09:16.360 by this despicable lunatic 0.85

00:09:18.300 who fashions herself a mother. 1.00

00:09:20.880 And I want you to understand,

00:09:23.840 I'm being very harsh in the way

00:09:25.260 that I describe this woman.

00:09:27.600 But that's because what she is doing is pure evil. 0.89

00:09:30.940 And if we lived in a country where things made sense

00:09:33.800 and where there was justice

00:09:35.760 and where we cared about protecting children,

00:09:39.540 this person would be locked in prison

00:09:44.480 for the rest of her life

00:09:45.580 because that's where she deserves to be.

00:09:47.780 This is a very, very bad person.

00:09:51.420 And this is, as I have always argued,

00:09:53.840 this is a form of not just emotional

00:09:55.840 and physical and psychological abuse,

00:09:57.820 although as if that's not enough,

00:09:59.640 it is also sexual abuse, okay?

00:10:02.240 It is in the most fundamental way

00:10:04.040 because you are sexually manipulating a child. 0.65

00:10:06.900 In fact, I want you to listen to this.

00:10:09.040 The father was on a podcast recently.

00:10:11.780 He was on the Luke Macias podcast,

00:10:15.060 which you can hear if you go to

00:10:16.420 lukemacias.com, M-A-C-I-A-S.com.

00:10:20.180 That's how you pronounce the last name.

00:10:21.740 It's a long interview worth listening to.

00:10:24.340 But I want to play one part

00:10:25.740 where he talks about how this started,

00:10:29.680 what the mother did to James.

00:10:32.380 And in fact, right before we play this clip,

00:10:34.340 or actually right before this clip

00:10:36.060 that I'm going to play,

00:10:37.520 Jeff, because he's talking about

00:10:39.260 what this person did.

00:10:40.780 And he says that there were various

00:10:44.800 tools of manipulation she would use

00:10:48.020 in order to create gender confusion 0.99

00:10:52.460 in her innocent and helpless son.

00:10:56.320 One of the things she would do,

00:10:57.640 apparently, according to Jeff,

00:10:58.820 is she would lock the kid in a room 1.00

00:11:00.600 and tell him that there's a monster

00:11:04.360 in there that only eats little boys. 1.00

00:11:06.840 She would do that with him

00:11:09.380 when he was three years old.

00:11:13.460 And there was much more to it than that.

00:11:15.600 Listen to what Jeff Younger,

00:11:17.980 the father, has to say.

00:11:19.540 During the temporary orders period,

00:11:22.260 when we were waiting to go to final trial

00:11:24.100 and we're going through the endless motions

00:11:26.500 before the associate judge,

00:11:29.260 my three-year-old son tells me,

00:11:33.600 he's at my home,

00:11:34.380 he tells me that he's a girl.

00:11:38.020 And I had the presence of mind,

00:11:40.500 thank goodness,

00:11:41.220 to pull out my iPhone

00:11:43.040 and videotape me asking him about that.

00:11:46.240 And that was literally the first time

00:11:47.820 that I really understood

00:11:48.640 what was happening to my son.

00:11:50.420 And what did you gather

00:11:51.900 from that first conversation with him?

00:11:54.060 His mother was telling him

00:11:55.400 that he was a girl.

00:11:56.820 She was dressing him as a girl.

00:11:59.400 She was putting nail polish on him 1.00

00:12:01.760 and encouraging him to act like a girl.

00:12:04.900 And my personal assessment,

00:12:07.380 this isn't from James,

00:12:08.280 but my personal assessment,

00:12:09.700 was that she was only giving him love

00:12:11.920 and affection if he acted like a girl.

00:12:15.560 And that was the first time I noticed.

00:12:17.440 He was just past his third birthday.

00:12:20.120 Three years old.

00:12:22.240 Three years old.

00:12:23.280 So it's obvious that James

00:12:26.200 doesn't really identify as a girl.

00:12:28.280 He's been forced into this.

00:12:29.480 This is something that has been done to him

00:12:31.680 by that nurse ratchet of a mother 0.98

00:12:34.460 that he has been cursed with.

00:12:37.800 But here's the thing.

00:12:39.500 It wouldn't matter.

00:12:41.560 Even if he did really authentically

00:12:44.120 identify as a girl,

00:12:45.900 it would make no difference.

00:12:47.080 or it should make no difference

00:12:50.220 to the case.

00:12:54.460 If this wasn't being forced on him

00:12:57.320 the way that it is,

00:12:58.240 that would make the mother 0.96

00:13:00.140 maybe less of an evil scumbag,

00:13:01.740 but it wouldn't change the reality.

00:13:04.660 And the reality is that

00:13:06.040 no matter what the child says,

00:13:09.060 the child who doesn't understand

00:13:11.240 what's going on

00:13:12.120 and can't possibly understand,

00:13:14.320 the reality is that he is a boy.

00:13:16.160 Period.

00:13:16.600 He is a boy.

00:13:17.460 Not a girl. 1.00

00:13:18.780 He doesn't know what a girl is.

00:13:20.040 He doesn't really know what a boy is.

00:13:21.420 He doesn't understand

00:13:22.100 what it means to transition.

00:13:24.080 He doesn't understand the consequences.

00:13:25.620 He doesn't understand anything

00:13:27.320 because he's a child.

00:13:30.180 He is just a confused child.

00:13:34.480 And whatever he says

00:13:36.040 about I'm a girl, I'm a boy,

00:13:37.380 these are confused statements

00:13:39.140 from a naive and innocent little kid

00:13:42.340 who doesn't know

00:13:43.960 what the hell is going on

00:13:45.200 because how could he?

00:13:50.260 So in some ways,

00:13:51.860 as we talk about,

00:13:53.240 well, you know,

00:13:54.340 does he want to be a girl?

00:13:56.540 Does he want to be a boy?

00:13:58.460 And it seems like

00:13:59.380 that's what the case

00:14:00.140 really boiled down to.

00:14:01.300 But that just shows you.

00:14:03.380 That just shows you

00:14:04.320 how crazy things have gotten.

00:14:06.640 Because it's starting

00:14:08.240 from a false premise.

00:14:09.500 It doesn't,

00:14:10.280 to argue over what does he want,

00:14:13.120 that would seem to grant

00:14:15.580 the premise to begin with

00:14:17.240 that a child can potentially

00:14:19.880 choose his own gender,

00:14:21.380 which he can't anyway,

00:14:23.000 no matter what he wants.

00:14:24.620 But the fact that

00:14:25.700 he doesn't even want this

00:14:27.000 in the first place

00:14:28.100 just makes it,

00:14:28.860 I suppose,

00:14:29.680 all the worse.

00:14:31.280 You know,

00:14:31.480 when you follow this case,

00:14:32.460 you really begin to see,

00:14:33.460 well, you see a few things.

00:14:34.880 You see that we are screwed

00:14:36.160 as a society.

00:14:37.440 I hate to say it.

00:14:39.120 This case,

00:14:39.980 I don't think people

00:14:41.500 really understand

00:14:42.240 just how monumental

00:14:43.100 this case is.

00:14:43.940 It's gotten

00:14:44.380 a fair amount of attention,

00:14:46.160 at least in conservative circles.

00:14:48.380 It should be getting

00:14:49.260 a lot more attention

00:14:50.480 than it actually is, though.

00:14:51.740 However much attention

00:14:54.460 it's getting,

00:14:56.140 we should be much more

00:14:58.420 focused on this

00:14:59.340 than we are.

00:15:01.780 Because we are crossing

00:15:03.180 now a threshold

00:15:04.620 with the court

00:15:08.220 making a ruling like this

00:15:09.780 in Texas,

00:15:11.120 of all places.

00:15:11.760 Can you imagine now

00:15:12.960 cases like this

00:15:14.080 in California

00:15:15.100 or Washington State

00:15:17.100 or New York

00:15:18.400 or New Hampshire?

00:15:18.980 Can you imagine

00:15:20.140 if this woman

00:15:22.840 could get this ruling

00:15:23.860 out of a Texas court?

00:15:27.280 Imagine what

00:15:28.440 a similarly monstrous parent

00:15:30.720 could achieve

00:15:31.720 in a court,

00:15:33.600 in a state

00:15:34.740 that's already

00:15:35.260 crazy liberal

00:15:35.940 to begin with.

00:15:38.060 But the other thing

00:15:39.140 that you see illustrated

00:15:40.440 is the fact

00:15:41.260 that transgender children

00:15:42.520 are really a symptom

00:15:43.760 of Munchausen

00:15:45.100 by proxy.

00:15:47.060 And I think this case

00:15:47.840 is a,

00:15:48.120 you couldn't,

00:15:49.360 you couldn't find

00:15:50.360 a better illustration

00:15:51.220 of that.

00:15:51.700 Munchausen by proxy

00:15:52.680 is when parents

00:15:54.560 pretend

00:15:56.680 that their children

00:15:58.040 are sick

00:15:58.680 or they make

00:15:59.800 the child sick

00:16:00.680 in order to get

00:16:01.360 attention or pity

00:16:02.560 or whatever else

00:16:03.700 they want.

00:16:04.280 They did,

00:16:04.780 there was the HBO

00:16:05.540 miniseries,

00:16:07.240 what was it called?

00:16:07.860 Sharp Objects

00:16:08.620 based on a book.

00:16:09.980 Amy Adams

00:16:10.560 came out last year

00:16:12.180 and it revolves,

00:16:15.140 that might be

00:16:15.560 a spoiler actually,

00:16:16.420 I might have just

00:16:16.860 spoiled it for you,

00:16:17.520 sorry about that.

00:16:18.120 Anyway,

00:16:20.260 but it revolves

00:16:21.780 around this

00:16:22.880 thing where you've

00:16:24.600 got a parent

00:16:25.420 and this happens

00:16:26.260 in real life,

00:16:26.860 not just in movies

00:16:27.600 where you have

00:16:28.060 some sick

00:16:28.740 and twisted

00:16:29.200 evil parents

00:16:30.120 who I think

00:16:31.420 oftentimes

00:16:31.960 ends up being

00:16:32.860 a mother

00:16:33.160 who does this

00:16:33.680 for whatever reason

00:16:34.320 but they make

00:16:35.240 their kids sick.

00:16:38.360 And it's all

00:16:39.120 just the most

00:16:40.320 twisted form

00:16:41.120 of emotional

00:16:41.640 manipulation

00:16:42.240 or sort of

00:16:42.660 using the child

00:16:43.640 as bait,

00:16:44.660 dangling the sick

00:16:45.620 child out there,

00:16:46.640 a child

00:16:47.400 that you

00:16:47.740 made sick

00:16:48.500 so that you

00:16:49.260 can get

00:16:49.620 whatever you

00:16:50.080 want out of

00:16:50.720 the world.

00:16:51.880 Essentially

00:16:52.360 cashing him

00:16:53.160 in as

00:16:53.860 social capital.

00:16:56.800 That's what

00:16:57.400 this mother

00:16:57.800 has been doing.

00:16:58.740 This mother

00:16:59.420 for years

00:17:00.100 has been

00:17:00.540 making this

00:17:01.180 child sick.

00:17:02.040 She has

00:17:02.340 infused

00:17:03.120 gender dysphoria

00:17:04.400 into his

00:17:05.360 head.

00:17:06.180 She has

00:17:06.460 caused it

00:17:07.520 in order

00:17:11.120 to achieve

00:17:12.480 whatever it

00:17:12.980 is she

00:17:13.260 hopes to

00:17:13.620 achieve for

00:17:14.060 herself.

00:17:16.500 And that's

00:17:17.320 one of the

00:17:17.880 reasons why

00:17:18.460 I feel

00:17:19.300 no compunction

00:17:20.120 about being

00:17:21.080 very harsh

00:17:21.660 in my

00:17:22.740 approach to

00:17:23.500 this woman

00:17:23.960 because there

00:17:26.200 is no way

00:17:26.880 in hell, 0.96

00:17:27.300 especially when

00:17:27.680 you consider

00:17:27.940 she's a

00:17:28.440 pediatrician,

00:17:29.700 God help

00:17:30.180 us.

00:17:31.240 There is

00:17:31.760 no way

00:17:32.360 in hell

00:17:33.140 she actually

00:17:34.640 believes this

00:17:35.760 nonsense about

00:17:36.880 how there's

00:17:38.580 a daughter

00:17:39.060 trapped inside

00:17:39.720 her son's

00:17:40.140 body.

00:17:40.920 There's no

00:17:41.540 way she 0.84

00:17:41.960 really believes

00:17:42.520 that.

00:17:43.120 No one who

00:17:43.840 understands

00:17:44.360 anything about

00:17:45.080 science,

00:17:45.620 anyone who

00:17:45.920 has any

00:17:46.160 medical

00:17:46.560 training,

00:17:47.120 there is

00:17:47.340 no way

00:17:47.740 you possibly

00:17:48.340 believe that,

00:17:49.100 especially when

00:17:49.980 you as the

00:17:50.540 mother know 0.93

00:17:51.360 that you

00:17:52.140 have been

00:17:52.520 working on

00:17:53.280 this with

00:17:53.720 the kid

00:17:54.160 practically

00:17:54.860 since he

00:17:55.400 was born.

00:17:57.760 So this

00:17:58.480 is not a

00:17:59.060 case of an

00:18:00.360 unfortunately

00:18:00.820 confused and

00:18:02.160 misled

00:18:02.660 mother.

00:18:03.260 No,

00:18:03.580 that's not

00:18:04.040 what this

00:18:04.400 is.

00:18:08.000 But you

00:18:08.600 see how

00:18:09.100 strong the

00:18:10.300 biological

00:18:10.780 impulse is

00:18:11.820 that this

00:18:12.400 in some

00:18:13.600 ways it

00:18:13.920 makes it

00:18:14.400 even sadder

00:18:15.520 that this

00:18:16.040 poor boy

00:18:16.820 has been

00:18:17.900 resisting this

00:18:18.780 for years.

00:18:19.800 And think

00:18:20.340 about that.

00:18:20.880 Think about

00:18:21.180 what that

00:18:21.600 requires.

00:18:22.380 This has

00:18:22.980 been for

00:18:23.880 years now,

00:18:24.600 since he

00:18:24.860 was three

00:18:25.240 years old,

00:18:26.120 his mother

00:18:26.560 has been

00:18:26.780 trying to

00:18:27.180 brainwash

00:18:27.700 him.

00:18:28.100 But still

00:18:28.840 when he

00:18:29.140 goes to

00:18:29.500 his father's

00:18:30.080 house,

00:18:30.480 it's like

00:18:30.960 he's relieved

00:18:31.620 that he can

00:18:32.060 finally take

00:18:32.680 off the

00:18:33.140 freaking

00:18:33.460 dress and

00:18:34.760 dress like

00:18:35.300 a boy and

00:18:36.480 go and

00:18:37.140 roll around

00:18:37.600 in the mud

00:18:38.020 and do

00:18:38.280 what boys

00:18:38.700 do.

00:18:39.700 He still

00:18:40.640 has that

00:18:41.100 impulse.

00:18:41.540 Now,

00:18:42.560 eventually he

00:18:43.560 will lose

00:18:44.080 it.

00:18:45.240 And this

00:18:45.480 is what

00:18:45.740 will happen

00:18:46.300 after all

00:18:48.060 of this

00:18:48.380 brainwashing.

00:18:49.300 And then

00:18:49.460 they're going

00:18:49.680 to start

00:18:50.000 him on the

00:18:50.380 drugs and

00:18:51.040 they're going

00:18:51.240 to chemically

00:18:51.700 castrate

00:18:52.300 him.

00:18:53.700 And so,

00:18:54.460 you know,

00:18:56.000 10,

00:18:56.520 15 years

00:18:57.160 from now,

00:18:57.660 if you

00:19:00.280 talk to

00:19:00.840 this child

00:19:01.380 who now

00:19:02.880 will be

00:19:03.220 an adult,

00:19:04.540 he'll tell

00:19:05.300 you about

00:19:05.680 how he

00:19:06.100 identifies

00:19:06.620 as a

00:19:07.220 woman and

00:19:07.780 this is

00:19:08.520 who he

00:19:09.400 is deep

00:19:09.820 inside and

00:19:10.420 he's known

00:19:10.860 it since

00:19:11.180 he was a

00:19:11.560 little kid

00:19:12.160 and everything.

00:19:13.400 This is really

00:19:14.080 who he is.

00:19:15.220 That's what

00:19:15.640 he'll tell

00:19:15.980 you because

00:19:16.280 that's what

00:19:16.580 he'll think

00:19:17.000 about himself.

00:19:18.180 People who

00:19:18.600 are brainwashed

00:19:19.540 don't know

00:19:20.240 they've been

00:19:20.720 brainwashed.

00:19:21.420 But the

00:19:24.520 other thing

00:19:24.900 is that

00:19:25.240 even 15

00:19:26.440 years from

00:19:26.940 now,

00:19:27.640 when he

00:19:28.780 is insisting

00:19:29.540 that about

00:19:30.000 himself,

00:19:30.460 that he's

00:19:30.700 really a

00:19:31.060 woman and

00:19:31.500 he's always

00:19:31.880 known this

00:19:32.420 and everything,

00:19:33.860 he still

00:19:34.440 is going

00:19:34.820 to be

00:19:35.320 deeply

00:19:36.200 in misery

00:19:37.400 and depressed

00:19:38.680 because this

00:19:39.580 is,

00:19:40.360 transgender

00:19:41.020 people have

00:19:42.460 massively higher

00:19:43.400 rates of

00:19:43.820 suicide, 0.90

00:19:44.760 they have

00:19:44.960 lower life,

00:19:45.700 they have

00:19:45.960 shorter life

00:19:46.880 expectancies

00:19:47.600 and all of

00:19:48.960 that and for

00:19:49.600 all we hear

00:19:50.280 about,

00:19:50.740 oh,

00:19:50.760 it's because

00:19:51.140 of bullying

00:19:51.660 and because

00:19:52.160 they're not

00:19:52.440 accepted in

00:19:53.060 society.

00:19:53.800 No,

00:19:54.060 that's not

00:19:54.660 it.

00:19:56.880 It's because

00:19:57.640 these are

00:19:58.120 people who

00:19:59.380 struggle at

00:20:01.600 such a basic

00:20:02.620 level to

00:20:03.220 accept

00:20:03.940 themselves for

00:20:05.420 who they

00:20:05.880 really are

00:20:06.920 and there

00:20:08.820 is a lot

00:20:09.380 of misery

00:20:09.980 and pain

00:20:10.700 that comes

00:20:11.240 with that

00:20:11.660 and this

00:20:12.380 mother has

00:20:12.880 put that

00:20:13.520 on her

00:20:14.020 child.

00:20:18.740 All right,

00:20:19.560 I almost

00:20:20.060 succeeded in

00:20:20.720 talking about

00:20:21.180 that without

00:20:21.540 screaming.

00:20:22.240 I did the

00:20:22.560 best I

00:20:22.900 could.

00:20:25.360 I hope

00:20:26.420 that,

00:20:27.080 look,

00:20:27.420 this is,

00:20:28.760 I don't

00:20:29.220 know what

00:20:29.520 can be

00:20:29.940 done about

00:20:31.900 this,

00:20:32.440 but I

00:20:33.600 think that

00:20:34.120 the same

00:20:35.840 people in

00:20:36.660 the government

00:20:37.340 down there

00:20:37.740 in Texas,

00:20:38.160 if they can

00:20:40.180 step in,

00:20:40.840 they need to,

00:20:41.520 or at the

00:20:42.200 very least,

00:20:42.920 guys like

00:20:43.400 Ted Cruz

00:20:44.040 and Governor

00:20:44.560 Abbott,

00:20:44.920 they need to

00:20:45.340 speak up and

00:20:46.100 say something

00:20:46.720 about this

00:20:47.460 case.

00:20:48.480 Even if they

00:20:49.080 can't do

00:20:49.580 anything about

00:20:50.180 it, just

00:20:50.520 speak up and

00:20:51.820 defend this

00:20:52.340 child.

00:20:52.860 I know there

00:20:53.200 are a lot of

00:20:53.560 people down

00:20:53.940 there in

00:20:54.220 Texas, a lot

00:20:55.460 of people in

00:20:55.840 the community

00:20:56.300 that have been

00:20:57.160 speaking out and

00:20:58.100 protesting.

00:20:58.720 I think more

00:20:59.120 people need to

00:20:59.840 and people in

00:21:00.460 positions of

00:21:01.040 power there

00:21:02.240 need to speak

00:21:03.240 up.

00:21:04.360 We're at a

00:21:05.160 point now where

00:21:05.960 if you are a

00:21:07.520 sane, decent

00:21:08.300 person and you

00:21:09.180 know better and

00:21:10.680 you know that

00:21:11.220 this is crazy and

00:21:12.240 you understand

00:21:12.920 what's happening

00:21:13.540 to these

00:21:13.860 children, you

00:21:14.680 need to speak

00:21:15.580 up.

00:21:15.820 You can't

00:21:16.380 stay silent

00:21:16.960 anymore.

00:21:17.400 You just

00:21:17.760 can't.

00:21:20.780 All right.

00:21:23.080 Let's move

00:21:25.160 on.

00:21:25.440 We'll see what

00:21:25.740 else we've got

00:21:26.580 going on here.

00:21:27.440 So there was

00:21:27.800 this case.

00:21:31.020 The New York

00:21:31.640 Post is

00:21:32.480 reporting a

00:21:33.100 case out of

00:21:35.460 the University

00:21:35.940 of Connecticut.

00:21:36.420 Let me read a

00:21:38.120 little bit of

00:21:38.500 the New York

00:21:40.880 Post report.

00:21:41.480 It says,

00:21:42.460 two white

00:21:43.380 students at

00:21:44.040 the University

00:21:44.480 of Connecticut

00:21:45.000 were arrested

00:21:46.660 for shouting

00:21:47.580 racial slurs

00:21:48.500 as they

00:21:48.880 walked through

00:21:49.320 a parking

00:21:49.760 lot outside

00:21:50.340 student

00:21:50.700 apartments

00:21:51.160 earlier this

00:21:51.800 month,

00:21:52.540 according to

00:21:52.940 a report.

00:21:54.560 The suspects,

00:21:56.680 21-year-old

00:21:57.480 students Jared

00:21:58.280 Carroll and

00:21:59.420 Ryan

00:21:59.980 Mukaj, I

00:22:01.340 don't know how

00:22:01.560 to pronounce

00:22:01.860 his last

00:22:02.160 name, were

00:22:03.000 arrested by

00:22:03.660 campus police

00:22:04.520 Monday after

00:22:06.180 they were

00:22:06.440 captured on a

00:22:07.000 viral video

00:22:07.600 repeatedly

00:22:08.060 shouting the

00:22:08.720 N-word.

00:22:10.540 Students

00:22:11.020 launched large

00:22:11.940 rallies and

00:22:12.660 protests of the

00:22:13.500 video in the

00:22:14.040 campus chapter of

00:22:14.840 the NAACP

00:22:15.520 demanded school

00:22:16.160 officials take

00:22:16.780 action against

00:22:17.420 the pair.

00:22:18.380 The arrests of

00:22:19.060 Carroll and

00:22:19.600 Mukaj were 1.00

00:22:20.420 announced hours

00:22:21.780 after a march

00:22:22.560 against racism.

00:22:24.440 Now get this,

00:22:26.240 these two guys

00:22:27.160 were each charged,

00:22:28.400 they were

00:22:28.640 charged, I'm

00:22:29.620 quoting now,

00:22:30.480 charged with

00:22:31.040 ridicule on

00:22:32.400 account of

00:22:33.000 creed, religion,

00:22:34.060 color, denomination,

00:22:35.240 nationality, or race.

00:22:39.180 Police who

00:22:39.820 investigated the

00:22:40.440 case discovered

00:22:41.000 the two students

00:22:41.660 walked through the

00:22:42.440 woods, through the

00:22:43.700 apartment complex

00:22:44.440 playing a game

00:22:45.760 in which they

00:22:46.940 yelled vulgar

00:22:47.700 words and

00:22:49.280 there was another

00:22:50.140 student who was

00:22:50.620 with them and

00:22:51.260 didn't participate

00:22:51.800 in the game.

00:22:52.180 Okay, charged

00:22:54.360 with ridicule.

00:22:55.040 Actually, back up

00:22:55.700 for a second.

00:22:57.560 So you've got

00:22:58.160 these two guys

00:23:00.080 walking down

00:23:02.940 campus shouting

00:23:03.960 bad words playing

00:23:04.980 a game.

00:23:05.520 Stupid game,

00:23:07.120 I'm sure we all

00:23:07.920 agree, but it's

00:23:08.980 just a game and

00:23:10.180 they're just

00:23:10.940 joking.

00:23:12.760 Inappropriate,

00:23:13.440 fine, you want

00:23:14.220 to say it's

00:23:14.560 offensive, fine,

00:23:15.960 but that's what

00:23:17.580 it is.

00:23:18.840 Before we even

00:23:19.560 get to the fact

00:23:19.960 that they were

00:23:20.340 arrested and

00:23:20.960 charged with a

00:23:21.540 crime, you

00:23:23.900 had marches

00:23:25.900 and rallies

00:23:26.700 about what?

00:23:29.140 Because two

00:23:30.020 kids walking

00:23:31.020 down the street

00:23:31.940 were shouting

00:23:32.800 bad words?

00:23:34.420 What do you

00:23:35.040 need to march

00:23:35.560 against?

00:23:36.420 Yeah, everyone

00:23:37.040 agrees that it's

00:23:38.180 not good that

00:23:38.800 they did that.

00:23:40.220 So what are

00:23:40.620 you, what, of

00:23:42.000 all the things,

00:23:43.560 activism in this

00:23:44.600 country has

00:23:45.300 become so

00:23:46.600 completely

00:23:47.640 frivolous.

00:23:50.520 And you see

00:23:51.740 how desperate

00:23:52.620 people are for

00:23:53.580 a cause.

00:23:54.900 You know, people

00:23:55.340 need a cause to

00:23:56.460 believe in and

00:23:57.320 to fight for.

00:23:58.520 And if you're

00:23:59.080 not going to

00:23:59.740 fight for real

00:24:00.540 causes and for

00:24:01.880 things that really

00:24:02.600 matter, then

00:24:03.540 you're stuck with

00:24:04.160 something like

00:24:04.620 this.

00:24:05.340 Let's take to

00:24:06.220 the streets and

00:24:07.400 march because

00:24:08.480 two guys on

00:24:09.920 the campus

00:24:10.480 said a bad

00:24:11.440 word.

00:24:14.720 My God.

00:24:17.200 Now, but

00:24:18.540 that's, that's,

00:24:19.380 that's even,

00:24:20.940 that's just

00:24:21.320 besides the

00:24:21.840 point because

00:24:22.260 the real issue

00:24:23.060 here is that

00:24:23.720 the police got

00:24:24.500 involved and

00:24:26.080 charged them

00:24:26.820 with ridicule.

00:24:28.780 Did you know

00:24:29.620 that that was

00:24:30.040 even a crime

00:24:30.680 you could be

00:24:31.040 charged with?

00:24:32.020 Ridicule?

00:24:32.500 If that's a

00:24:35.280 criminal offense,

00:24:36.900 then every

00:24:38.600 single person

00:24:39.780 in America

00:24:40.980 should be in

00:24:41.980 jail because

00:24:42.820 everybody in

00:24:43.920 America has 0.83

00:24:44.600 engaged in

00:24:45.200 ridicule at

00:24:46.740 some point in

00:24:47.280 their life.

00:24:48.740 Just go on

00:24:49.660 Twitter right

00:24:50.240 now.

00:24:50.720 Go to

00:24:50.980 Twitter and

00:24:52.740 all of those

00:24:54.020 people, arrest

00:24:54.620 all of them.

00:24:55.920 Every single

00:24:56.440 person with a

00:24:56.880 Twitter account,

00:24:57.720 they all, because

00:24:58.140 that's the only

00:24:58.740 reason Twitter

00:24:59.160 exists, to

00:24:59.900 ridicule people.

00:25:00.660 Charged with

00:25:04.080 a crime.

00:25:04.540 So the

00:25:04.820 First Amendment

00:25:05.240 doesn't exist

00:25:05.940 basically is what

00:25:06.520 we're learning.

00:25:07.020 This is just

00:25:07.640 free speech,

00:25:08.820 First Amendment

00:25:09.240 doesn't exist.

00:25:12.600 If you could be

00:25:13.440 charged with a

00:25:13.900 crime for

00:25:14.540 ridiculing, and

00:25:16.060 the thing is,

00:25:17.040 they, it wasn't

00:25:17.940 even ridicule.

00:25:18.760 They weren't

00:25:19.060 even, it's not

00:25:19.980 even like, you

00:25:20.640 can't say, oh,

00:25:21.120 it was harassment.

00:25:21.860 They weren't

00:25:22.140 harassing anyone.

00:25:22.840 They weren't

00:25:23.280 talking to anyone.

00:25:24.660 They were

00:25:24.980 literally just

00:25:25.660 shouting into the

00:25:26.600 thin air.

00:25:28.160 Again, you can,

00:25:29.380 you could say

00:25:30.040 it's stupid, 0.92

00:25:30.660 it's offensive,

00:25:31.360 it's fine, I

00:25:32.060 agree with you

00:25:32.720 on that.

00:25:35.600 But who

00:25:36.260 were they

00:25:36.540 ridiculing?

00:25:38.100 Aside from

00:25:38.840 themselves.

00:25:43.380 If, if this

00:25:45.040 is illegal, then

00:25:45.800 the First

00:25:46.100 Amendment doesn't

00:25:46.880 exist.

00:25:47.520 You, you

00:25:48.180 don't, what's,

00:25:49.320 what function

00:25:49.880 does the First

00:25:50.440 Amendment even

00:25:51.180 serve?

00:25:52.820 If the First

00:25:53.620 Amendment doesn't

00:25:55.000 cover this, then

00:25:56.500 what do you even

00:25:57.180 have it for?

00:25:57.800 because the

00:26:00.220 whole point, as

00:26:01.000 many people have

00:26:02.700 pointed out, and

00:26:03.440 as always needs to

00:26:05.080 be pointed out with

00:26:05.680 cases like this, you

00:26:07.480 only need the First

00:26:08.920 Amendment to

00:26:10.320 protect offensive

00:26:11.720 speech that nobody

00:26:12.920 likes.

00:26:13.960 Because if it's

00:26:14.860 unoffensive speech

00:26:16.120 that no one cares

00:26:17.540 about or everyone

00:26:18.240 agrees with, then

00:26:19.760 you don't need a

00:26:20.680 First Amendment at

00:26:21.220 all.

00:26:21.560 We don't, you

00:26:21.900 don't need to

00:26:22.540 specially protect that

00:26:23.660 kind of speech.

00:26:25.140 In fact, you

00:26:25.640 could go anywhere,

00:26:26.620 you could go to

00:26:27.160 North Korea and,

00:26:29.220 and say stuff that

00:26:31.000 people there will

00:26:32.740 agree with and

00:26:34.180 like.

00:26:35.060 You could, now,

00:26:35.840 what, what people

00:26:37.300 will agree with and

00:26:38.080 the kind of speech

00:26:38.600 people will like,

00:26:39.240 that's going to

00:26:39.640 change depending on

00:26:40.860 where you are.

00:26:43.040 But you can go

00:26:44.480 anywhere in the

00:26:45.840 world and say

00:26:47.140 things that are

00:26:48.040 culturally appropriate

00:26:49.660 according to the

00:26:51.300 culture that you

00:26:51.820 happen to be in at

00:26:52.640 the moment.

00:26:54.920 And many of those

00:26:55.840 places, like North

00:26:56.620 Korea, for example,

00:26:57.840 don't have free

00:26:58.380 speech protections.

00:27:01.400 Because in those

00:27:02.440 places they don't

00:27:02.880 have free speech,

00:27:03.600 what they're saying

00:27:04.180 is, yeah, you can

00:27:04.780 say culturally

00:27:05.380 acceptable things,

00:27:06.800 but that's all you

00:27:07.800 can say.

00:27:08.320 You can't say

00:27:08.780 anything that's

00:27:09.180 culturally unacceptable

00:27:10.280 and that's why we

00:27:10.920 don't have a First

00:27:11.420 Amendment in that

00:27:12.760 country.

00:27:16.080 So, that's, that's,

00:27:19.800 that's what it is.

00:27:20.680 So if you say, oh,

00:27:21.920 yes, but it was,

00:27:22.640 it's offensive and

00:27:23.400 horrible, yeah,

00:27:24.140 agreed, agreed,

00:27:24.900 agreed, I agree with

00:27:25.640 all of that.

00:27:28.560 But yes, you can say

00:27:29.880 offensive and horrible

00:27:30.660 things.

00:27:33.240 We act like free

00:27:34.360 speech is this

00:27:35.160 really complicated,

00:27:36.400 complex, really

00:27:37.400 nuanced subject.

00:27:38.840 And maybe there are

00:27:39.600 some nuances to it,

00:27:41.120 yes, but it's not

00:27:42.140 that hard to

00:27:42.920 understand.

00:27:44.100 And for me,

00:27:46.180 when I look at how

00:27:47.460 the First Amendment

00:27:47.980 is written,

00:27:50.360 not the language

00:27:51.300 and the spirit

00:27:52.300 of it, what it was

00:27:53.060 meant to do,

00:27:53.960 it's pretty clear to

00:27:55.220 me that the First

00:27:56.100 Amendment is supposed

00:27:56.820 to give you the

00:27:57.520 right to say

00:27:59.300 whatever you want,

00:28:01.820 provided you are

00:28:03.860 not defaming or

00:28:06.100 slandering someone,

00:28:07.100 or otherwise

00:28:09.860 trying to directly

00:28:15.700 cause physical

00:28:17.120 harm to another

00:28:17.720 person.

00:28:18.160 So the example

00:28:19.160 of shouting

00:28:21.140 fire in a

00:28:22.180 crowded theater,

00:28:22.980 okay, of course

00:28:23.460 you can't do that

00:28:24.240 unless there is a

00:28:25.120 fire.

00:28:26.520 But if there isn't,

00:28:27.360 you can't do that,

00:28:27.800 that is going to

00:28:28.340 directly cause harm

00:28:29.720 to people.

00:28:30.260 It could cause harm

00:28:31.360 from the stampede of

00:28:32.260 people running out of

00:28:32.940 the theater, it'll

00:28:34.020 cause harm to the

00:28:34.820 business that you've

00:28:35.640 just, where you've

00:28:36.180 just caused all

00:28:36.740 these people to go

00:28:37.300 running out.

00:28:38.660 So yes, that's

00:28:39.580 going to cause

00:28:39.900 direct harm.

00:28:42.820 But other than

00:28:43.620 that, you can say

00:28:45.200 whatever you want,

00:28:45.780 that's the way it

00:28:46.280 should be.

00:28:47.520 And there's no

00:28:48.260 real downside.

00:28:49.620 So you think about

00:28:50.340 what's the downside?

00:28:51.900 So we have to

00:28:52.620 compare.

00:28:53.740 On one hand, you

00:28:54.920 could have a crime

00:28:55.920 against ridicule and

00:28:57.360 arrest people for it.

00:29:00.940 Or you could say,

00:29:02.800 well, basically say

00:29:03.820 whatever you want as

00:29:04.520 long as you're not

00:29:04.940 directly causing harm

00:29:06.780 to another person.

00:29:08.760 What's the downside

00:29:09.760 to that first plan?

00:29:12.780 Having a crime

00:29:13.620 against, having a law

00:29:15.040 against ridicule.

00:29:17.620 Well, the plus side

00:29:18.700 is, I guess, you're

00:29:19.600 protecting people's

00:29:20.300 feelings.

00:29:20.780 Okay.

00:29:21.300 The downside is

00:29:22.760 you have created

00:29:25.080 this subjective

00:29:26.600 law where the people

00:29:30.140 in power get to

00:29:31.580 decide, because what

00:29:32.360 counts as ridicule,

00:29:33.320 you would talk about

00:29:33.840 hate speech.

00:29:36.640 I was talking about

00:29:38.240 this on Twitter and

00:29:39.060 some people were

00:29:39.580 saying, oh, what

00:29:41.080 do you support hate

00:29:42.520 speech now?

00:29:44.420 No, I don't support

00:29:45.480 hate speech in the

00:29:47.500 sense of supporting

00:29:49.100 the content and

00:29:50.460 advocating that people

00:29:51.400 engage in it,

00:29:52.180 whatever it is, but

00:29:53.260 that's the point.

00:29:53.960 What is it?

00:29:55.460 Something like

00:29:56.040 ridicule, hate

00:29:56.840 speech, that is

00:29:57.640 subjective.

00:29:59.160 It's going to depend

00:30:00.020 on your perspective.

00:30:03.660 So, you can have a

00:30:05.080 crime against

00:30:05.440 ridicule, plus

00:30:06.220 side is, protect

00:30:08.240 people's feelings,

00:30:09.380 some people's

00:30:10.060 feelings, sometimes.

00:30:11.940 Downside is, now

00:30:13.000 you have given this

00:30:13.680 authority to the

00:30:14.300 people in power to

00:30:15.700 subjectively determine

00:30:17.100 what they consider to

00:30:19.120 be hate speech and 0.65

00:30:20.560 ridicule, and then to

00:30:23.260 clamp down on speech

00:30:25.400 by that standard.

00:30:29.520 On the other hand, we

00:30:30.920 could say, let's not

00:30:31.860 do that, and let's

00:30:33.860 let people say

00:30:35.020 whatever they want,

00:30:35.740 as long as they're

00:30:36.280 not directly causing

00:30:37.180 harm to another

00:30:37.680 person.

00:30:39.420 Plus side is, now

00:30:41.020 we've got free speech,

00:30:42.120 we live in a free

00:30:42.780 country, people are

00:30:44.120 protected in their

00:30:45.100 ability to express

00:30:46.060 themselves.

00:30:47.860 What's the downside?

00:30:49.040 Downside is, people

00:30:50.700 are going to be

00:30:51.100 allowed to say some

00:30:52.240 tasteless things, some

00:30:54.700 crass and crude

00:30:55.480 things, and it

00:30:56.500 might be kind of

00:30:57.000 annoying to listen

00:30:57.720 to, and it might

00:30:58.480 even hurt your

00:30:59.020 feelings.

00:30:59.560 That's the downside.

00:31:01.440 So on one hand, the

00:31:02.220 downside is tyranny.

00:31:04.460 On the other hand, the

00:31:05.980 downside is hurt

00:31:08.080 feelings.

00:31:14.040 Which one, which is

00:31:16.240 the better course of

00:31:16.920 action?

00:31:17.220 It seems obvious to

00:31:18.040 me.

00:31:21.980 All right.

00:31:23.380 I guess I've got to be

00:31:24.220 careful now, doing

00:31:26.060 this show, if ridicule

00:31:28.780 is against the law.

00:31:29.760 I might be, I've got

00:31:30.660 to be honest, I'm

00:31:31.440 probably in a lot of

00:31:32.120 trouble.

00:31:32.740 Let's go to emails,

00:31:33.560 mattwalshow at

00:31:34.280 gmail.com, mattwalshow

00:31:35.940 at gmail.com.

00:31:37.920 This is from Trevor,

00:31:39.440 says, your tweets

00:31:40.800 about pitbulls are what

00:31:42.020 I expect from leftists.

00:31:43.780 Should we ban guns

00:31:44.920 too?

00:31:45.280 Your arguments

00:31:45.760 against pitbulls are

00:31:46.680 the exact arguments

00:31:47.580 leftists use.

00:31:48.880 You need to get off

00:31:49.660 this crusade because

00:31:50.760 you're embarrassing

00:31:51.440 yourself.

00:31:52.100 Pitbulls don't kill 1.00

00:31:52.980 people, bad owners

00:31:54.160 do, in all caps.

00:31:55.540 Raise your pitbull 1.00

00:31:56.320 right and it's not a

00:31:57.300 problem.

00:31:59.420 Hi, Trevor.

00:32:00.140 Yes, Trevor

00:32:00.720 references back and

00:32:02.340 forth on social media

00:32:03.180 between me and a

00:32:03.840 bunch of pitbull 0.91

00:32:04.440 owners who are

00:32:05.860 famously a pretty

00:32:06.760 irrational bunch.

00:32:07.820 No offense.

00:32:09.100 It's just that when it

00:32:10.280 comes to social media

00:32:11.240 mobs, I found that

00:32:12.960 Beyonce fans are the

00:32:15.340 most irrational and

00:32:16.500 then a close second

00:32:18.020 would be pitbull 0.94

00:32:21.500 owners.

00:32:21.800 It kind of goes like

00:32:22.900 that.

00:32:23.140 And then probably

00:32:23.460 Star Wars fans are

00:32:24.440 right after.

00:32:24.920 That's sort of the

00:32:25.680 unholy trinity of 0.95

00:32:26.920 irrational Twitter

00:32:28.540 mobs.

00:32:29.540 I don't remember what

00:32:30.260 started this particular

00:32:31.280 round of argument on

00:32:32.100 the subject.

00:32:32.760 I think it was, yeah,

00:32:34.100 it was, it was, okay,

00:32:35.040 it was, I saw a tweet

00:32:37.100 that someone posted.

00:32:38.900 And pitbull owners are

00:32:40.080 always doing this.

00:32:40.800 It's the dumbest

00:32:41.460 argument where they go,

00:32:42.940 oh yeah, pitbulls are 1.00

00:32:43.960 real aggressive, huh?

00:32:45.040 Well, well, look at

00:32:45.780 this dangerous beast.

00:32:46.940 And then they, it's a

00:32:48.300 picture of their pitbull,

00:32:49.340 you know, cutely

00:32:49.880 snuggling on a, on a,

00:32:51.440 on a, on a furry carpet

00:32:53.100 next to a fireplace as if

00:32:55.180 that somehow proves that

00:32:57.100 pitbulls are safe.

00:32:58.140 As if a, as if a picture of

00:33:00.120 a pitbull not killing people

00:33:02.020 proves that pitbulls don't 1.00

00:33:04.360 kill people. 0.90

00:33:05.220 As if the cuteness of an

00:33:07.040 animal somehow correlates

00:33:09.080 with its relative safety.

00:33:10.300 Now, if that's true, then

00:33:12.520 grizzly bears, I guess,

00:33:13.840 are the safest animals in

00:33:15.220 the world.

00:33:16.120 Oh, you think grizzly

00:33:16.900 bears will eat your face? 1.00

00:33:18.160 Well, look at this picture

00:33:19.060 of a grizzly bear not

00:33:20.480 eating anyone's face.

00:33:22.140 Checkmate.

00:33:24.040 Just really dumb.

00:33:26.500 Here's the statistical

00:33:27.540 reality.

00:33:28.880 And you can go ahead and

00:33:29.860 you can Google this in

00:33:30.740 fact check me.

00:33:31.780 Don't take my word for it.

00:33:34.040 By far, by far, the most

00:33:36.960 lethal breed of dog in the

00:33:38.700 country is the pitbull.

00:33:39.760 They kill more people than

00:33:42.060 any other breed of dog.

00:33:43.460 It's not close.

00:33:44.840 They win that horrible

00:33:46.140 competition by a landslide.

00:33:48.060 And that's not even

00:33:48.840 counting all the people who

00:33:49.820 are mauled by pitbulls

00:33:51.080 and don't die.

00:33:53.940 There's information on the

00:33:54.940 website dogbitelaw.com.

00:33:57.120 You can go check it out.

00:33:57.760 It has a report showing that

00:33:59.200 in many parts of the

00:33:59.880 country, pitbulls not only 0.96

00:34:01.760 lead in mauling deaths, but

00:34:04.460 they also lead in dog bite

00:34:06.160 incidents at all, period.

00:34:07.820 So they bite the most

00:34:09.120 people and they're the most

00:34:10.820 likely to kill you when

00:34:12.360 they do bite you.

00:34:13.820 And this says nothing of

00:34:15.000 all the other dogs that are

00:34:16.180 attacked by pitbulls, which

00:34:17.820 is far more common even

00:34:19.120 than that.

00:34:19.900 Let me read a quick email

00:34:20.920 from someone else who sent

00:34:22.340 me on this subject.

00:34:24.220 Someone who worked at an

00:34:25.320 animal shelter.

00:34:27.360 This is from Erin.

00:34:28.560 This is what she had to

00:34:29.380 say.

00:34:29.600 She said, I'm a registered

00:34:30.320 veterinary technician from

00:34:31.380 California.

00:34:31.780 I worked at a municipal

00:34:32.740 animal shelter where we

00:34:33.960 receive the bite dogs to

00:34:37.120 either keep until their

00:34:38.080 rabies hold was up or to

00:34:39.620 euthanize if the owners

00:34:40.760 wanted.

00:34:42.960 A rabies hold is the

00:34:44.140 period of time a dog is

00:34:45.140 kept under observation to

00:34:46.240 ensure the dog doesn't have

00:34:47.280 any rabies symptoms if no

00:34:48.680 rabies vaccine is on file.

00:34:50.640 Bite dogs, in quotes, come in

00:34:52.700 many breeds and sizes, but the

00:34:54.140 worst, always the very worst

00:34:56.140 bites were bully breeds.

00:34:57.700 It was absolutely terrifying the

00:34:59.240 damage those dogs can and will

00:35:00.940 do.

00:35:01.680 I used to advocate for them

00:35:03.080 and I was staunchly against

00:35:04.180 breed-specific legislation, but

00:35:08.560 after seeing the damage they

00:35:09.840 do, I wish they would breed

00:35:11.600 them all out.

00:35:12.840 Multiple times a week we

00:35:14.100 receive reports of these

00:35:15.720 four-legged terrorists ripping 1.00

00:35:17.220 apart other animals and

00:35:18.820 generally once a week there was

00:35:20.040 a tragic human incident.

00:35:21.760 There's no reason for this.

00:35:22.840 There are dozens of other

00:35:23.780 breeds out there.

00:35:24.700 Why are people so weird about

00:35:26.180 bully breeds?

00:35:27.640 And that's the thing about

00:35:28.500 pit bulls.

00:35:29.280 It's not just that they're

00:35:30.520 naturally aggressive, though

00:35:31.720 they are.

00:35:32.260 It's that they're built

00:35:34.520 biologically to inflict 1.00

00:35:36.120 maximum damage.

00:35:38.820 Okay?

00:35:39.880 That's, this is also why it's

00:35:42.680 dumb to own many other kinds

00:35:45.280 of animals.

00:35:45.960 You see people who have

00:35:47.540 pythons as pets.

00:35:50.800 Now, pythons can be

00:35:53.220 temperamental, but that's not

00:35:54.540 even the main point.

00:35:55.440 The point is, because they're

00:35:56.420 snakes, but the point is that

00:35:58.240 they are built to be killing

00:36:00.000 machines.

00:36:00.700 That's the problem.

00:36:02.700 And you hear these tragic

00:36:03.600 cases of a pet python

00:36:05.780 killing a child or whatever.

00:36:07.020 It doesn't happen all that

00:36:07.860 often, but it does happen.

00:36:10.580 And since it's an animal,

00:36:11.860 this is an animal we're

00:36:13.120 talking about, right?

00:36:14.600 So you can never really know

00:36:16.160 how they're going to react or

00:36:17.480 what's going on inside their

00:36:18.700 head.

00:36:18.960 You can't reason with them,

00:36:20.700 and you can't really ever

00:36:22.120 trust them completely,

00:36:23.740 because you don't know what,

00:36:27.360 no, nobody really understands

00:36:29.840 animal psychology.

00:36:32.020 Nobody really understands human

00:36:33.420 psychology all the way.

00:36:34.500 Forget about animal psychology.

00:36:37.700 So when you, you have a pitbull, 0.92

00:36:39.040 he's, I have a pitbull, we'll

00:36:39.860 never do that.

00:36:40.520 My pitbull's a sweetie.

00:36:41.900 You don't know what the hell your

00:36:43.220 pitbull is thinking.

00:36:44.220 You have no idea.

00:36:45.480 You have no clue.

00:36:46.740 Yes, you could have general

00:36:49.940 sort of confidence that a

00:36:51.620 particular dog is safe, but you

00:36:53.900 can't know for sure about any

00:36:56.600 dog.

00:36:58.600 And you might say, well, then

00:36:59.860 what are you saying?

00:37:00.540 We should, you should, we

00:37:01.800 should just get rid of all

00:37:02.600 dogs.

00:37:03.100 No, I'm saying that because you

00:37:05.980 can never be sure with an

00:37:07.300 animal, because an animal is an

00:37:08.820 animal, that's why it's probably

00:37:10.920 best not to bring animals into

00:37:12.860 your home that could kill

00:37:15.260 somebody if they wanted to.

00:37:18.900 There's just no good reason to

00:37:20.400 do that.

00:37:22.260 Okay, so we'll do this exercise

00:37:24.240 again.

00:37:24.640 On the one hand, we have all the

00:37:26.140 stats proving beyond any doubt

00:37:27.640 that pitbulls are the most

00:37:28.580 dangerous breed of dog.

00:37:30.360 We have all the news stories of

00:37:32.940 pitbulls mauling children to

00:37:35.060 death.

00:37:35.820 We have all the other dogs that

00:37:37.040 have been mauled and killed by

00:37:38.140 pitbulls.

00:37:38.860 And that's why you shouldn't own

00:37:40.260 them.

00:37:41.860 As far as why you should, on the

00:37:43.400 other hand, I mean, what,

00:37:44.680 what, to outweigh all of that

00:37:48.460 statistical information, what can

00:37:51.460 you possibly present?

00:37:53.140 What's the argument for owning

00:37:55.080 them?

00:37:55.980 I'm not talking about an argument

00:37:57.660 that attempts to rationalize or

00:38:00.600 get around or evade the points

00:38:02.420 that I just made.

00:38:03.240 What is a positive, affirmative

00:38:05.240 argument for why it is good to own

00:38:07.520 them?

00:38:08.320 Because they're cute?

00:38:09.840 Because you like them?

00:38:11.020 It's just, it's not a, it's, there's

00:38:16.620 no good reason for it.

00:38:18.720 Now, as, Trevor, as for your

00:38:20.680 arguments, such as they are, you

00:38:22.240 say the argument against pitbulls is

00:38:24.520 like making an argument against gun

00:38:25.860 rights.

00:38:26.780 This is enormously stupid, but I hear

00:38:28.960 it from pitbull people all the time.

00:38:30.720 It is such a bad argument.

00:38:32.020 First of all, guns are inanimate

00:38:33.660 objects.

00:38:34.460 They don't, they don't have minds of

00:38:35.620 their own.

00:38:36.340 They're not going to hop over your

00:38:37.520 fence and go and shoot your 0.99

00:38:39.080 neighbor's kid on their own.

00:38:40.220 That's not going to happen.

00:38:42.140 Dogs are not inanimate objects.

00:38:44.080 They are animals with minds, minds

00:38:46.600 that we don't fully understand.

00:38:48.280 So this analogy just doesn't work.

00:38:49.680 The fact that dogs are not inanimate

00:38:52.480 objects and are animals that cannot

00:38:54.940 always be 100% controlled is the

00:38:58.080 point.

00:38:59.060 So to bring up some inanimate object

00:39:01.300 that has to be directly operated by

00:39:02.940 another person completely misses the

00:39:05.220 point.

00:39:06.800 Second, you don't have a constitutional

00:39:09.040 right to own whatever animal you want.

00:39:11.520 So that's another reason why that

00:39:12.780 analogy doesn't work.

00:39:14.620 If you, if there was such a

00:39:16.260 constitutional right, then you'd be

00:39:18.200 able to own bears and tigers and

00:39:20.480 chimps and any law against that would 1.00

00:39:22.820 be unconstitutional, which obviously

00:39:24.700 would be crazy.

00:39:27.260 So, um, you say pitbulls don't kill

00:39:29.980 people, bad owners do.

00:39:31.260 Now that's wrong.

00:39:32.020 Pitbulls definitely do kill people. 1.00

00:39:33.640 Uh, they do.

00:39:35.560 That's just a fact.

00:39:37.760 Um, now there might be pitbull owners 0.94

00:39:40.020 who also kill people, but that's a 0.77

00:39:41.600 separate subject.

00:39:42.340 The fact is pitbulls kill people.

00:39:44.800 Pitbulls are living creatures.

00:39:45.980 They aren't robots.

00:39:46.980 They aren't remote control toys.

00:39:49.000 Uh, pitbulls kill people on their own. 1.00

00:39:51.240 Yes, they do.

00:39:52.260 To the bad owner thing.

00:39:53.720 Okay.

00:39:53.960 And you hear this too.

00:39:54.640 This is the other, this is the other

00:39:55.700 common rationalization.

00:39:56.860 Oh, pitbulls, uh, it's all about the

00:39:59.160 owner.

00:39:59.400 Sure.

00:40:01.040 I agree that a pitbull with a bad 0.98

00:40:02.440 owner is going to probably be more

00:40:03.780 dangerous than a pitbull with a good

00:40:05.040 owner, but how do you ensure that the

00:40:07.460 owners are good?

00:40:09.460 What does it mean to be a good owner?

00:40:11.020 And how do you ensure that?

00:40:12.280 Are we doing, are we doing, uh, yearly

00:40:14.320 checkups to make sure that the owner is

00:40:16.340 still doing everything he's supposed to

00:40:17.400 do?

00:40:19.040 How could you possibly know?

00:40:22.120 There might be some basic red flags you

00:40:24.160 could look for.

00:40:24.800 Like, has this person been convicted of

00:40:26.520 dogfighting before?

00:40:27.520 Okay.

00:40:27.780 Well then yeah, sure.

00:40:28.520 That's probably not someone that should

00:40:29.560 get a pitbull, but other than that, if 0.96

00:40:31.940 it's just a normal looking person coming

00:40:33.580 in to adopt a pitbull, how are you

00:40:37.360 supposed to know if they're good or

00:40:38.860 not?

00:40:41.140 Um, and, and besides, isn't it really

00:40:45.000 foolish and reckless and insane to bring

00:40:47.480 an animal into your home who might rip

00:40:49.440 you apart limb from limb if you are not

00:40:51.440 fully attentive to it all the time and a

00:40:53.460 perfect owner in every way?

00:40:55.780 People tell me you just got to get pitbulls

00:40:57.900 a lot of attention.

00:40:58.700 Okay, but if you don't give them

00:41:00.340 attention, then what?

00:41:02.120 They'll kill something?

00:41:04.840 Yeah, I agree.

00:41:06.120 Yes, if you have one, give it attention, do

00:41:08.280 all that stuff.

00:41:09.020 But the, the problem is that the, the

00:41:12.240 downside to not being a great owner is

00:41:16.040 immense.

00:41:18.240 And it's not fair to put your community

00:41:21.020 in that position where we have to pay the

00:41:23.900 price if you fail as an owner.

00:41:27.160 Now, if somebody owns a poodle and they're

00:41:29.520 not a great poodle owner, then what does the

00:41:32.240 community have to deal with?

00:41:33.020 They have to deal with that yapping dog, 0.60

00:41:34.560 which is pretty annoying.

00:41:35.360 And worst case, the dog bites somebody and

00:41:38.800 it hurts and there's a little bit of a

00:41:40.180 mark, uh, and you know, and, and, and that's

00:41:43.220 it.

00:41:43.420 That's the worst case with a poodle.

00:41:47.880 If you were to compare all of the people, all

00:41:51.080 of the humans in history who have been killed

00:41:53.020 by poodles, I doubt it would even add up to

00:41:55.520 how many people that the pitbulls kill in one,

00:41:58.820 in one year.

00:42:00.080 So that's the issue.

00:42:01.420 Other kinds of dogs, if you have a owner who

00:42:04.560 isn't great, that's not good, but the price the

00:42:10.360 community will have to pay is relatively

00:42:13.320 negligible.

00:42:14.240 The problem though, with a pit bull is the

00:42:16.440 price the community has to pay.

00:42:18.040 If you're not raising the dog, right?

00:42:19.960 Is potentially fatal.

00:42:23.960 And so maybe it's best just to not bring those

00:42:29.160 animals into a community, you know, just choose

00:42:33.900 from any of the other dog breeds.

00:42:36.580 You don't need that one.

00:42:40.360 Okay.

00:42:42.420 This is from Kyle says, dear Matt, I wanted to

00:42:44.700 get your opinion on a recent experience.

00:42:46.280 I had the gas station.

00:42:47.480 I've honestly never run into this, but my wife

00:42:49.380 said it happens to her regularly and I wanted

00:42:51.220 to get your thoughts.

00:42:52.560 I was at a gas station with my family and every

00:42:54.780 pump was occupied.

00:42:55.840 I chose one where I thought the car ahead of

00:42:57.560 me was about to leave, but the occupant started

00:42:59.300 walking in the direction of the convenience

00:43:00.740 store.

00:43:01.300 He looked at my car sitting in a position where

00:43:03.360 my intention to put gas in my car could not

00:43:05.080 be misunderstood.

00:43:06.280 And I firmly believe he started walking slower in

00:43:09.540 shock and desperation.

00:43:10.280 I looked at the next pump where the man was

00:43:12.340 carefully washing every single glass surface on

00:43:14.560 the outside of his car with the squeegee and he

00:43:17.020 wasn't simultaneously pumping gas.

00:43:19.460 I could not believe the level of rudeness.

00:43:21.380 These two people exhibited.

00:43:22.940 I have less issue with either of these activities.

00:43:24.880 If the gas station is empty, or even if you're

00:43:26.760 trying to kill two birds with one stone while

00:43:28.580 pumping gas at the same time, but doing it while

00:43:30.660 you're watching people wait for a pump is outrageous.

00:43:33.560 Would this crime be worthy of the death penalty when

00:43:36.520 you are a supreme dictator?

00:43:41.700 Yes, Kyle, to go, first of all, I'm sorry you had

00:43:44.780 to go through that.

00:43:45.880 And so you have my condolences.

00:43:49.440 To go to the convenience store after you've already

00:43:51.920 pumped the gas, when all the pumps are full, rather

00:43:56.420 than just drive to the actual parking spots, because

00:43:59.480 every gas station with a convenience store attached also

00:44:03.860 has its own parking spaces that are not next to pumps

00:44:06.760 that you could just drive over to, but to, but because

00:44:09.460 you don't feel like doing that, leaving your car in the

00:44:11.820 spot while it's busy is beyond the bounds of human

00:44:14.900 decency.

00:44:15.500 I completely agree with you, Kyle.

00:44:17.980 Sociopathic does not even begin to describe it, honestly.

00:44:20.300 There is no excuse.

00:44:21.900 It should go without saying.

00:44:23.200 If it's a busy gas station, you pump your gas and you get

00:44:27.720 the hell out.

00:44:28.300 You don't pass go, collect 200, you don't do any of that.

00:44:33.860 Pump your gas, get out.

00:44:36.240 You don't squeegee, you don't go to the convenience store, you

00:44:39.460 don't start clearing out all the old Pepsi bottles and coffee

00:44:43.600 cups from the floor of your passenger side.

00:44:47.440 You don't do any of that.

00:44:49.760 You don't sit there and text on your phone, pump and go.

00:44:53.420 So I agree with you, Kyle, this should be understood common

00:44:58.660 practice.

00:44:59.540 But, you know, we, there are people who are barbarians in this

00:45:03.720 society, Kyle.

00:45:05.800 As for penalties under my regime, if you go into the store and

00:45:10.380 you leave your car there, when you come out to your car, it

00:45:15.320 will be doused, it will be doused in gasoline and it will be on

00:45:18.980 fire.

00:45:19.300 And then you will be expected to pay for the additional gasoline

00:45:24.280 that had to be used in order to torch your car.

00:45:27.700 And then, you know what's coming next, you are going to be thrown

00:45:32.200 into the fire.

00:45:36.140 Now, you might argue that this will only slow the process down

00:45:41.500 more now that we've had to, you know, do an execution via fire in

00:45:47.120 the middle of the gas station.

00:45:48.160 You might also argue that it could be potentially dangerous that

00:45:51.040 we have this huge fire right next to a bunch of gas pumps.

00:45:54.000 But listen, these are sacrifices that I would be willing to make

00:45:57.560 to see that justice is done.

00:46:00.540 And I want you to know that you have my solemn promise that I will

00:46:04.340 go to any lengths, as long as I am not personally inconvenienced by

00:46:08.980 them, to see that justice is done.

00:46:12.840 Vote for me.

00:46:14.720 And we will leave it there.

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The Matt Walsh Show - October 22, 2019

Ep. 354 - Court Sanctioned Child Abuse

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