The Megyn Kelly Show - Adam Carolla on COVID Madness, AOC, and Whether He'll Leave California

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00:00:30.580 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:32.520 Your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.

00:00:41.780 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

00:00:43.580 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:45.080 Today on the program, Adam Carolla.

00:00:47.920 And he's got some things to say.

00:00:50.300 We're going to be talking about COVID

00:00:52.180 and the California shutdowns

00:00:54.120 and Gavin Newsom's reversal.

00:00:56.380 Is this guy going to be recalled?

00:00:58.760 Is the pressure getting to him?

00:01:00.540 As the California school teachers,

00:01:02.440 their unions still refuse to go back into the classroom.

00:01:06.700 We're going to talk to him about The New York Times

00:01:08.420 firing a 45-year staffer.

00:01:12.160 The guy was with them for 45 years.

00:01:15.040 We'll get into why.

00:01:16.320 And on AOC's performance art,

00:01:19.900 Adam has got some thoughts,

00:01:21.320 so stay tuned for him.

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00:03:05.720 And now Adam Carolla,

00:03:08.360 author of I'm Your Emotional Support Animal,

00:03:12.100 navigating our all-woke,

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00:03:15.940 That's an amazing title.

00:03:17.260 And host of the Adam Carolla Show,

00:03:20.340 which is now on its 3,000th episode.

00:03:25.040 How about that?

00:03:26.380 3,000.

00:03:28.580 This is episode 63.

00:03:31.140 I don't know if I've got that much to say.

00:03:33.920 I don't know how you keep the conversation

00:03:35.580 going that long.

00:03:37.360 But maybe we'll find out.

00:03:39.380 We'll grow and we'll learn together

00:03:40.380 as we listen now to Adam.

00:03:43.720 How are you?

00:03:45.060 I'm well.

00:03:45.700 How are you doing?

00:03:47.060 I'm great.

00:03:48.200 I'm, uh...

00:03:49.180 Good.

00:03:49.600 Feeling kind of happy

00:03:50.940 about the Tom Brady win.

00:03:52.220 I don't know.

00:03:52.960 Seems like a nice guy.

00:03:54.300 Seems like he works hard for it.

00:03:56.140 He's easy to hate,

00:03:57.200 but I kind of feel like he deserves it.

00:04:00.200 I agree.

00:04:01.340 Now, if you hate Tom Brady,

00:04:03.640 you hate yourself for being lazy.

00:04:06.280 Exactly.

00:04:08.240 Exactly right.

00:04:09.720 First, let's talk about

00:04:10.500 what's going on with COVID.

00:04:12.100 Newsom, Gavin Newsom last week,

00:04:13.900 your governor finally called

00:04:15.920 for schools to reopen

00:04:17.200 even before every teacher

00:04:19.320 has been vaccinated.

00:04:21.020 And the teachers' unions,

00:04:22.780 they're opposing.

00:04:24.260 The teachers' union out there

00:04:25.200 is opposing.

00:04:25.840 The district superintendent

00:04:26.900 out there in Southern California

00:04:28.420 is saying the schools

00:04:29.340 are just not going to reopen.

00:04:30.960 They're not.

00:04:31.480 Unless, quote,

00:04:32.060 teachers are protected.

00:04:34.520 That's ambiguous.

00:04:36.160 And now there's a real question

00:04:37.500 about whether schools there

00:04:38.600 amongst other places

00:04:39.780 are ever going to reopen

00:04:42.520 until we have complete

00:04:44.020 herd immunity.

00:04:45.140 What do you think?

00:04:46.240 Well, you know,

00:04:46.980 if you think about

00:04:47.860 the way California rolls,

00:04:49.780 the way California rolls

00:04:51.200 is they set up

00:04:52.560 these arbitrary,

00:04:54.720 color-coded,

00:04:55.800 safety,

00:04:56.540 you know,

00:04:56.840 purple, yellow, red,

00:04:58.220 magenta, whatever.

00:04:59.700 And then each one

00:05:00.760 has a goal

00:05:01.720 that's pretty much undoable.

00:05:04.460 They have like

00:05:05.060 an unreachable goal.

00:05:07.040 Like, you know,

00:05:07.660 less than seven people

00:05:09.340 can be infected

00:05:10.280 out of two million people

00:05:11.760 in a three-year period.

00:05:13.480 And then they go,

00:05:14.460 we haven't met our goal.

00:05:16.060 Well, you set up

00:05:17.260 an unrealistic goal,

00:05:19.280 you know.

00:05:19.600 So it'd be like

00:05:20.380 you saying to your kids

00:05:22.600 or, you know,

00:05:23.200 me saying to my daughter,

00:05:25.020 you can never go

00:05:27.120 to Disneyland

00:05:27.740 or outside

00:05:29.160 after the streetlights

00:05:30.740 come on

00:05:31.360 or ever spend money

00:05:32.860 at fast food

00:05:34.280 until you get

00:05:35.740 100%

00:05:36.780 on 20 trigonometry

00:05:38.760 tests in a row.

00:05:39.940 And then at some point

00:05:41.340 she'd do 17 in a row

00:05:43.040 and she'd go,

00:05:43.640 can we go to Disneyland?

00:05:44.840 And I'd go,

00:05:45.320 hey, babe,

00:05:45.840 rules are rules.

00:05:47.120 We can't do it

00:05:48.140 because I set up

00:05:48.980 these very unrealistic goals.

00:05:50.680 So California

00:05:51.700 sets up crazy,

00:05:52.820 unrealistic safety goals

00:05:54.420 and then we don't meet them.

00:05:56.120 Teachers,

00:05:57.320 when this whole thing

00:05:58.320 is said and done,

00:06:00.140 the teacher's going to look

00:06:01.300 like mega cowards

00:06:02.660 to me.

00:06:03.540 Like,

00:06:03.820 in this world

00:06:04.580 where we're calling

00:06:05.320 people who work

00:06:06.240 at Trader Joe's

00:06:07.360 heroes

00:06:08.040 and nurses' heroes

00:06:09.380 and firemen heroes

00:06:10.820 and every front line,

00:06:12.140 everyone's a hero.

00:06:13.620 There has to be a goat

00:06:14.920 and the goat are teachers.

00:06:16.680 They're not going back

00:06:17.740 to work.

00:06:18.880 They're,

00:06:19.600 first off,

00:06:20.360 why aren't they

00:06:21.240 essential workers?

00:06:23.260 If garbage men

00:06:24.840 and people who work

00:06:25.780 at Trader Joe's

00:06:26.840 and gas stations,

00:06:28.420 if they're essential workers,

00:06:29.780 how come teachers

00:06:30.760 aren't essential workers?

00:06:32.180 I thought children

00:06:32.980 were our future.

00:06:33.720 I thought this was

00:06:34.820 the most important job.

00:06:36.280 Remember 10 minutes ago

00:06:37.560 we were calling

00:06:38.060 teachers heroes?

00:06:39.360 Remember they're all heroes?

00:06:41.040 What happened

00:06:41.880 to the hero moniker?

00:06:43.840 They're hiding

00:06:44.440 under their bed

00:06:45.260 in a fetal position

00:06:46.280 hammering check.

00:06:47.820 They need to get back

00:06:48.660 to work.

00:06:49.300 And by the way,

00:06:50.060 we don't need unions.

00:06:51.520 This is the,

00:06:52.360 it's the unions

00:06:53.740 that are screwing

00:06:54.520 this thing up.

00:06:56.600 That's what's so irritating

00:06:58.060 is because,

00:06:58.840 is that number one,

00:07:00.240 I think most teachers

00:07:01.140 do want to teach

00:07:01.880 is there unions

00:07:02.820 that are,

00:07:03.180 that are stepping in.

00:07:04.480 But number two,

00:07:05.040 there are certainly

00:07:05.600 some teachers

00:07:06.260 because we saw them.

00:07:07.140 We saw them doing

00:07:07.800 their interpretive dance

00:07:08.880 in Chicago.

00:07:09.620 These young,

00:07:10.420 able-bodied teachers

00:07:11.860 springing,

00:07:13.340 leaping through the air

00:07:14.240 in order to make clear

00:07:15.060 that they could not

00:07:15.880 possibly teach children.

00:07:18.220 Wait, why?

00:07:19.660 You're totally,

00:07:20.640 totally perfectly healthy

00:07:22.040 and you're terrified

00:07:23.280 you're going to get COVID

00:07:24.280 in schools

00:07:25.340 that have already

00:07:25.780 prioritized you

00:07:26.640 for the vaccine

00:07:27.480 and sterilize the classrooms,

00:07:29.580 et cetera.

00:07:30.080 So,

00:07:32.180 but the thing

00:07:32.540 that really ticks me off

00:07:33.500 is you've got,

00:07:34.040 you've got teachers

00:07:35.020 like,

00:07:35.320 we have a 65-year-old guy

00:07:36.700 who's been teaching

00:07:37.320 my fifth grader

00:07:38.140 and his classmates

00:07:39.160 for a year.

00:07:39.740 He's fine.

00:07:40.440 He took the risk.

00:07:41.560 He's one of those people

00:07:42.380 who could easily say,

00:07:43.260 I'm going to stay at home.

00:07:43.980 He didn't.

00:07:44.620 He went,

00:07:45.380 he understood,

00:07:46.340 there's next to no chance

00:07:48.100 of him getting it

00:07:48.920 or transmitting it

00:07:50.120 inside the classroom

00:07:51.180 and he did the right thing.

00:07:52.640 And now we're supposed

00:07:53.160 to look at these leapers

00:07:54.200 and say,

00:07:55.960 why won't you keep them safe?

00:07:58.960 Well,

00:07:59.300 it's so narcissistic.

00:08:00.940 It's so like insane.

00:08:02.040 Like,

00:08:02.280 I'm not going back

00:08:03.720 into the classroom

00:08:04.560 until it's 100% safe for me.

00:08:07.080 Crazy narcissism.

00:08:09.240 And again,

00:08:10.660 what if everyone

00:08:11.380 who worked at a supermarket

00:08:12.680 took on that same posture?

00:08:15.580 But I've always had

00:08:17.620 this bigger picture plan.

00:08:19.680 Like everyone says to me,

00:08:20.700 what's going on with schools?

00:08:22.040 Like what's happening

00:08:22.740 with schools?

00:08:23.600 And it's like,

00:08:24.200 what are we teaching

00:08:25.560 our kids at these schools?

00:08:27.080 It's a little slice

00:08:28.940 of socialism

00:08:30.600 is the way I look at it.

00:08:32.860 And it's,

00:08:33.740 first off,

00:08:34.520 it's inhabited by people

00:08:36.060 who don't want to go out

00:08:37.380 and compete

00:08:37.960 in the private sector.

00:08:39.780 Number one.

00:08:40.640 So it's a self-selecting

00:08:42.040 group of individuals.

00:08:44.060 Number two,

00:08:44.860 if you think about it,

00:08:46.180 just think about the,

00:08:47.480 you think about California,

00:08:48.740 think about school teachers.

00:08:50.120 If you think about COVID

00:08:51.860 and a sort of political,

00:08:53.680 political terms,

00:08:56.100 the people on the right

00:08:57.180 are the least worried

00:08:58.340 about it.

00:08:58.900 The people who are on the left

00:09:00.780 are the most worried

00:09:01.620 about it.

00:09:02.140 And the people

00:09:02.900 that are furthest

00:09:03.740 to the left

00:09:04.380 are the teachers.

00:09:05.880 And those are the teachers

00:09:07.300 that are teaching

00:09:07.960 your kid every day.

00:09:09.100 So what kind of politics

00:09:10.720 do you think your kids

00:09:11.520 are getting

00:09:12.000 by the super scared leftists

00:09:14.160 who won't go back

00:09:15.160 into a classroom?

00:09:16.760 What else,

00:09:18.320 pray tell,

00:09:18.860 may they be teaching

00:09:20.360 your kids

00:09:21.000 about the 1619 Project

00:09:23.000 or any of this?

00:09:24.660 This is a tell.

00:09:25.760 This is a tell

00:09:26.860 for who they are

00:09:28.040 and what their politics are.

00:09:30.200 Mm-hmm.

00:09:31.100 It's so true.

00:09:32.080 And they've had

00:09:33.280 to show their card

00:09:34.140 because the actual

00:09:35.940 governor of California

00:09:37.300 is saying,

00:09:38.020 go back to school.

00:09:40.100 The city of San Francisco

00:09:41.420 and city of L.A.

00:09:43.040 are saying

00:09:43.420 to their specific districts,

00:09:44.760 go back,

00:09:45.900 open up the schools.

00:09:47.060 And they're refusing.

00:09:47.920 San Francisco

00:09:48.400 just had to sue

00:09:49.700 its own school district

00:09:50.820 to make them reopen.

00:09:53.260 The district officials

00:09:54.780 are refusing.

00:09:56.560 And meantime,

00:09:57.260 Adam,

00:09:57.540 meantime,

00:09:57.940 at the federal level,

00:09:59.740 we've got Joe Biden.

00:10:00.780 Remember,

00:10:01.240 follow the science.

00:10:01.980 I'm going to follow the science.

00:10:03.000 Unlike President Trump,

00:10:04.000 I will follow the science

00:10:05.400 and I will listen

00:10:06.420 to the experts.

00:10:07.460 And the CDC

00:10:08.480 comes out

00:10:09.140 with this

00:10:09.640 just devastating

00:10:10.760 for that far left position

00:10:12.400 report saying

00:10:13.620 there's basically

00:10:14.620 no evidence

00:10:15.220 that you're going

00:10:16.080 to get COVID in school,

00:10:17.120 that schools have contributed

00:10:18.580 in any meaningful way

00:10:19.720 to community spread

00:10:20.560 and that

00:10:22.600 all the data show

00:10:23.720 it's much safer

00:10:24.840 for the kids

00:10:25.880 to be in school

00:10:26.660 and it's perfectly safe

00:10:27.640 for the children.

00:10:28.360 And you know what happened

00:10:29.120 after they said that?

00:10:30.760 The White House

00:10:31.440 was asked about it.

00:10:32.280 Jen Psaki came out

00:10:33.160 and said,

00:10:33.580 well,

00:10:34.060 the woman who said that,

00:10:36.440 she was speaking

00:10:37.060 in her personal capacity.

00:10:39.000 Okay,

00:10:39.240 it was the director

00:10:39.980 of the CDC

00:10:40.740 and she was providing

00:10:42.560 the guidance

00:10:43.020 during a coronavirus

00:10:43.840 task force briefing

00:10:45.000 with reporters

00:10:45.680 in her role

00:10:46.300 as the head of the CDC.

00:10:47.700 And now,

00:10:48.220 we're going to follow

00:10:48.940 the science

00:10:49.420 and listen to the experts,

00:10:50.400 folks are saying,

00:10:52.040 oh,

00:10:52.220 she was speaking

00:10:52.680 in her personal capacity.

00:10:54.220 And by the way,

00:10:55.480 what is personal capacity?

00:10:57.640 I mean,

00:10:59.060 when you're the head

00:10:59.820 of the CDC

00:11:00.440 or the spokesperson

00:11:01.360 for the CDC,

00:11:02.480 what does that even mean?

00:11:03.520 Like,

00:11:03.740 those are her own

00:11:04.600 private thoughts

00:11:05.640 that she shared.

00:11:06.820 Like,

00:11:07.240 we stole her diary

00:11:08.620 or something.

00:11:09.980 Or she's just,

00:11:11.040 or she's a Scientologist

00:11:12.740 and she's giving us

00:11:13.820 some of her own,

00:11:15.180 you know,

00:11:15.580 homespun theories

00:11:17.160 about life.

00:11:18.140 What does personal capacity

00:11:20.800 mean when you're

00:11:21.660 standing at a podium

00:11:22.780 with CDC signage

00:11:25.740 behind you?

00:11:26.540 What does that mean?

00:11:27.140 That's her own

00:11:27.940 deeply held

00:11:29.960 personal opinion

00:11:31.260 about COVID-19?

00:11:32.960 Like,

00:11:33.100 what does that even mean?

00:11:34.400 It's a lie.

00:11:35.480 And if we were back

00:11:36.440 in the Trump era,

00:11:37.220 it would be added

00:11:38.000 to the list

00:11:38.700 of, like,

00:11:39.100 number of lies

00:11:39.860 told by this White House,

00:11:41.000 but no.

00:11:41.480 Right.

00:11:41.800 Keep going.

00:11:42.460 Yeah.

00:11:43.120 So Fauci,

00:11:44.440 if he says something

00:11:45.440 I disagree with,

00:11:46.620 I can claim

00:11:47.280 it's just his

00:11:47.860 personal capacity.

00:11:49.700 He was speaking in,

00:11:50.620 that was his pillow talk

00:11:51.720 with him and his wife.

00:11:54.980 It's,

00:11:55.340 it's,

00:11:55.500 it's a,

00:11:55.860 it's a lame statement.

00:11:57.240 It's nonsensical.

00:11:58.540 She was speaking

00:11:59.200 in her personal capacity.

00:12:00.720 That doesn't even mean anything.

00:12:02.500 Right.

00:12:03.360 Right.

00:12:03.820 It's a dodge

00:12:04.460 by this,

00:12:05.180 you know,

00:12:05.400 this new White House

00:12:06.320 press office

00:12:06.920 that was going to be

00:12:07.640 so transparent.

00:12:09.240 And,

00:12:09.800 you know,

00:12:10.020 they're,

00:12:10.320 they're already lying to us.

00:12:11.660 And we know it.

00:12:12.680 And,

00:12:12.940 and the stakes are high.

00:12:14.200 You know,

00:12:14.360 I know you've got two kids.

00:12:15.500 I've got three kids.

00:12:16.720 Really pisses me off

00:12:17.720 because it's like,

00:12:18.620 we did a long report

00:12:20.260 last week

00:12:20.900 based on a New York Times

00:12:22.080 in-depth piece

00:12:23.020 talking about

00:12:23.660 the suicide rate

00:12:24.960 amongst these kids

00:12:25.840 going up.

00:12:26.720 The,

00:12:27.260 the most recent CDC report

00:12:28.920 found

00:12:29.420 mental health related

00:12:30.960 ER visits

00:12:31.840 are up 31%

00:12:33.680 for kids

00:12:34.180 between 12 and 17,

00:12:35.540 up 24%

00:12:36.500 for kids

00:12:37.440 between 5 and 11.

00:12:40.300 Five,

00:12:40.680 who are,

00:12:41.660 like the opposite

00:12:42.900 of super spreaders.

00:12:43.940 You're not going

00:12:44.780 to get COVID

00:12:45.340 from a kid

00:12:46.240 between 5 and 11

00:12:47.280 and they don't

00:12:49.340 give a shit.

00:12:50.620 They,

00:12:50.780 they,

00:12:51.120 they won't go back

00:12:51.920 to school.

00:12:52.540 The White House

00:12:53.140 won't follow the science.

00:12:54.760 And when the CDC

00:12:56.400 director had a moment

00:12:57.640 of honesty,

00:12:59.040 the,

00:12:59.220 the first response

00:13:00.060 is personal capacity.

00:13:02.120 Look over there.

00:13:03.240 Yeah.

00:13:04.040 It's really,

00:13:05.220 it's,

00:13:05.740 it's an interesting,

00:13:06.760 it's interesting

00:13:07.880 that numbers,

00:13:09.960 computers,

00:13:10.560 and statistics

00:13:11.340 have actually

00:13:12.260 pulled us

00:13:13.400 further away

00:13:14.520 from reality.

00:13:15.620 Like,

00:13:16.820 they're,

00:13:17.220 in a way,

00:13:18.440 teachers

00:13:18.920 keeping kids

00:13:20.160 at home

00:13:20.660 and not going back

00:13:21.880 is kind of

00:13:22.960 statistically

00:13:23.680 like Black Lives Matter

00:13:25.220 in the sense

00:13:26.320 that they focus

00:13:27.200 all of their energy

00:13:29.420 on cops

00:13:31.200 shooting

00:13:31.840 unarmed Black men

00:13:33.140 which is statistically

00:13:34.720 next to nothing.

00:13:36.300 They focus

00:13:37.140 none of their

00:13:38.320 focus

00:13:39.280 on Black men

00:13:40.620 killing other Black men

00:13:42.120 which is statistically

00:13:43.120 through the roof

00:13:44.120 and we're all supposed

00:13:45.660 to just go along

00:13:46.560 with it.

00:13:47.260 Like,

00:13:47.640 like we don't do math.

00:13:49.160 Like we can't

00:13:50.060 look at a number

00:13:50.860 or a spreadsheet.

00:13:52.340 And the teacher's thing

00:13:53.400 is kind of the same thing.

00:13:54.540 There is no

00:13:55.480 statistical

00:13:56.240 data that says

00:13:57.820 it's dangerous

00:13:58.480 for kids to go back

00:13:59.640 into the classroom.

00:14:01.200 There's now

00:14:01.740 a bunch of

00:14:02.420 statistical data

00:14:03.600 saying it's very dangerous

00:14:04.900 for them to stay home

00:14:06.160 with all the

00:14:07.100 myriad of

00:14:07.960 things that go along

00:14:09.300 with that,

00:14:09.940 you know,

00:14:10.240 substance abuse

00:14:11.040 and mental stuff

00:14:11.960 and physical abuse

00:14:12.740 and all that.

00:14:13.500 And yet,

00:14:13.920 we're just going to

00:14:14.520 ignore that

00:14:15.100 and let them

00:14:15.800 sit home and rot.

00:14:17.360 So,

00:14:17.880 the heroes

00:14:18.720 who claim

00:14:19.740 to have gotten into it

00:14:20.640 because they love kids

00:14:21.920 and they want to

00:14:22.380 change their future

00:14:23.320 are all,

00:14:24.260 and by the way,

00:14:25.120 this thing where it's like,

00:14:26.500 well, it's not them,

00:14:27.300 it's the unions.

00:14:28.160 Then start piping up

00:14:29.280 against your union.

00:14:30.600 Why don't you start

00:14:31.240 pushing back

00:14:31.900 against the union?

00:14:33.100 Like, isn't that

00:14:33.680 what a hero

00:14:34.180 would do?

00:14:36.780 And why do we need

00:14:38.100 these unions?

00:14:39.500 The Biden administration

00:14:40.700 wants to get rid

00:14:41.460 of school choice.

00:14:43.400 This seems like,

00:14:45.020 so we want a monopoly

00:14:46.240 with these idiots

00:14:47.660 controlling our kids

00:14:49.060 and controlling the state?

00:14:50.240 that doesn't seem like

00:14:53.100 a good plan for me.

00:14:54.860 Get rid of charter schools

00:14:56.920 and get rid of school choice

00:14:58.200 and get rid of vouchers,

00:14:59.600 have an ever-increasing

00:15:01.180 number of unions

00:15:03.300 in school teachers' unions,

00:15:04.780 and then have them

00:15:05.720 just dictate policy

00:15:07.540 in a state

00:15:09.180 as big as California?

00:15:10.780 That doesn't seem

00:15:11.480 like a great plan to me.

00:15:12.980 It seems like

00:15:13.480 what they're doing now.

00:15:15.100 Nobody wants it.

00:15:16.160 So, all the parents

00:15:17.200 want their kids

00:15:17.780 to go back to school.

00:15:18.440 The governor wants

00:15:19.220 the kids to go back to school.

00:15:20.520 The mayor in Los Angeles

00:15:22.180 wants the kids

00:15:23.200 to go back to school,

00:15:24.380 but the union,

00:15:25.240 because of how big it is,

00:15:26.760 says no.

00:15:27.900 Does that make sense

00:15:28.620 to anybody?

00:15:29.580 And might we pump

00:15:31.260 the brakes at this point

00:15:32.660 and say,

00:15:33.360 hmm,

00:15:34.380 maybe there should be

00:15:35.260 some alternatives

00:15:36.280 to big unionized,

00:15:38.460 federally funded schools?

00:15:40.460 Do we think

00:15:40.780 there's any chance

00:15:41.440 of that happening,

00:15:42.220 given what,

00:15:43.220 you know,

00:15:43.500 the size of Democratic

00:15:45.080 donations the unions make?

00:15:47.140 Well,

00:15:47.460 somebody's going

00:15:48.600 to have to start

00:15:49.220 talking about the fact

00:15:50.760 that,

00:15:52.400 you know,

00:15:53.040 it's so funny

00:15:53.820 because I live

00:15:54.440 in California

00:15:55.100 and I live

00:15:55.640 amongst these idiots

00:15:56.740 and when you say

00:15:57.760 to them all the time,

00:15:59.060 hey,

00:15:59.320 the governor

00:15:59.720 wants the schools open,

00:16:01.240 it's statistically safe

00:16:02.460 for the schools open,

00:16:03.400 the mayor wants

00:16:03.940 the schools open,

00:16:04.560 how come schools

00:16:05.280 aren't open?

00:16:05.880 They'll go like,

00:16:06.440 I don't know,

00:16:07.160 I don't know.

00:16:07.580 They have no connection

00:16:09.480 to the unions

00:16:10.580 and them funding

00:16:11.840 the politicians.

00:16:13.180 They cannot do

00:16:13.960 that math

00:16:14.500 or they won't

00:16:16.820 do that math

00:16:17.520 or it's some sort

00:16:18.940 of cognitive dissonance

00:16:20.280 or something.

00:16:21.480 Your people,

00:16:22.720 Democrats,

00:16:23.380 the people you're voting

00:16:24.280 for,

00:16:25.040 this is what they're doing.

00:16:26.560 They're sacrificing kids.

00:16:28.560 The mayor

00:16:29.140 and the governor,

00:16:31.340 they can give

00:16:32.600 some lip service

00:16:33.440 to it,

00:16:33.920 but they can't

00:16:34.520 actually make a move

00:16:35.700 because they're scared

00:16:36.520 of the unions

00:16:37.220 who are funding that.

00:16:38.220 And this is,

00:16:39.400 this is essentially

00:16:41.120 payola

00:16:41.840 and it's perfectly fine

00:16:43.780 for all the Democrats

00:16:44.640 who live in California.

00:16:46.980 I would,

00:16:47.620 I would,

00:16:48.100 I would say

00:16:48.700 that's a hypocritical state.

00:16:51.540 I mean,

00:16:52.160 I,

00:16:52.440 I would say,

00:16:53.500 and I have said it,

00:16:54.340 you,

00:16:54.500 you want to just say,

00:16:55.320 that's fine.

00:16:56.340 You don't want to teach?

00:16:57.100 You're fired.

00:16:58.180 There's no problem.

00:16:59.080 That's the deal.

00:16:59.700 Like,

00:17:00.060 the reason you get the paycheck

00:17:01.180 is because you do the teaching

00:17:02.360 and now that we're

00:17:04.000 back open,

00:17:04.960 if you're not going to show up,

00:17:06.140 you're fired.

00:17:06.760 But how can they do that

00:17:08.500 when the unions control

00:17:10.140 the slots

00:17:11.060 that the teachers are in

00:17:12.680 and they're going to just say

00:17:14.180 they can't backfill them?

00:17:15.280 Like,

00:17:15.500 they've,

00:17:15.660 they've,

00:17:16.000 the unions got them.

00:17:17.260 They've,

00:17:17.480 they've got them right

00:17:18.140 where they want them.

00:17:19.780 Well,

00:17:19.920 haven't we agreed

00:17:21.040 in our society

00:17:22.720 that monopolies are bad?

00:17:25.380 That,

00:17:25.920 that,

00:17:26.320 that sometimes you abuse

00:17:27.620 your power

00:17:28.220 when you're a monopoly.

00:17:29.440 So we have

00:17:30.160 a lot of laws

00:17:31.860 to break up monopolies

00:17:33.900 and to prevent monopolies.

00:17:35.820 So why is it

00:17:36.740 good for the school teachers union

00:17:38.480 who is a monopoly?

00:17:40.620 Why,

00:17:40.860 why is that,

00:17:41.500 why is that,

00:17:42.800 why is that an okay monopoly?

00:17:44.780 So you couldn't have a monopoly

00:17:46.300 on automobiles

00:17:48.680 or on tacos,

00:17:49.560 but you could have one

00:17:50.780 on teachers

00:17:51.560 and that works.

00:17:53.440 This is,

00:17:54.080 by the way,

00:17:54.320 what happens

00:17:54.940 when there's a monopoly.

00:17:56.800 This,

00:17:57.160 I'm living it

00:17:57.900 in California.

00:17:58.680 My kids

00:17:59.320 are laying in the room

00:18:00.980 right now

00:18:01.520 because of the school teachers

00:18:03.080 union monopoly.

00:18:05.260 If we had alternatives,

00:18:07.400 then they would just

00:18:08.640 lose business

00:18:09.620 and,

00:18:10.060 and go away.

00:18:10.880 If there were others

00:18:11.860 who were competing

00:18:12.860 against them,

00:18:13.580 but they have,

00:18:14.420 they have a monopoly.

00:18:15.820 So what is advantageous

00:18:18.520 about a monopoly?

00:18:19.580 We're calling it a union,

00:18:20.880 but it's really a monopoly.

00:18:21.960 That's a good point.

00:18:24.100 I mean,

00:18:24.280 there was a time

00:18:24.980 in,

00:18:25.620 in our country's history

00:18:26.620 where teachers felt

00:18:28.000 they were being mistreated

00:18:29.060 and the only way

00:18:29.640 they were going to get

00:18:30.180 decent salaries

00:18:30.900 and decent benefits

00:18:31.820 was to bind together

00:18:33.240 and work against,

00:18:34.640 you know,

00:18:34.900 as,

00:18:35.120 as a unit

00:18:35.680 against the sort of

00:18:36.940 the cities

00:18:38.160 controlling

00:18:38.820 all the purse strings.

00:18:40.780 I,

00:18:41.240 I don't,

00:18:41.900 I don't think

00:18:42.420 we're still there.

00:18:43.600 And the free market

00:18:45.000 has led to a lot

00:18:45.800 of great schools

00:18:46.780 that don't have to

00:18:48.480 obey by these rules.

00:18:49.640 And that's,

00:18:50.560 they're so threatened

00:18:51.300 by how well they're working,

00:18:52.800 things like charter schools

00:18:53.760 and so on,

00:18:54.520 that their,

00:18:55.380 their solution is,

00:18:56.520 as you point out,

00:18:57.280 they must be shut down.

00:18:58.520 It's not,

00:18:59.000 we have to do better

00:18:59.760 because they're coming for us.

00:19:01.400 You know,

00:19:01.520 it's like we could do better

00:19:02.640 and learn from their example.

00:19:03.580 It's,

00:19:04.200 they need to go away.

00:19:05.140 The competition

00:19:05.620 needs to be eliminated.

00:19:07.380 Yeah.

00:19:08.200 Well,

00:19:08.820 what would you do

00:19:10.080 if you were really bad

00:19:11.620 at your job

00:19:12.520 and you were lazy?

00:19:14.340 Would you want to up your game

00:19:16.020 or would you want to

00:19:16.720 get rid of the competition?

00:19:18.020 So they're going to do,

00:19:21.000 basically,

00:19:21.940 they're going to do

00:19:22.480 what we let them do.

00:19:24.860 And I don't think

00:19:26.180 they're any different

00:19:26.800 than any other entity.

00:19:28.520 I don't,

00:19:29.200 I don't see why GM

00:19:30.420 wouldn't do it as well

00:19:31.620 or any other large,

00:19:34.100 you know,

00:19:34.820 GE

00:19:35.200 or any other

00:19:36.160 large corporation.

00:19:37.520 They'll do what we let them do.

00:19:40.220 Unfortunately,

00:19:41.560 California

00:19:42.200 lets them do

00:19:43.800 whatever they want to do

00:19:45.060 and this is the product.

00:19:46.820 I mean,

00:19:47.460 I'm living it right now.

00:19:49.760 That's,

00:19:50.300 this is what happens

00:19:51.560 when you have

00:19:52.880 a Democratic super majority.

00:19:55.440 This is,

00:19:56.340 this is the product

00:19:57.200 and now Newsom

00:19:58.400 who's

00:19:59.300 essentially been neutered

00:20:01.340 has to

00:20:02.800 do two things.

00:20:04.040 He has to say

00:20:04.480 out of one side

00:20:05.320 of his mouth

00:20:05.900 because there's so much pressure

00:20:07.120 and there's a recall

00:20:08.120 effort afoot

00:20:09.320 and,

00:20:10.100 and people are hitting

00:20:11.420 their boiling point

00:20:13.200 at this point

00:20:13.920 because the kids

00:20:14.600 have been home

00:20:15.240 for almost a year.

00:20:17.020 My kids have been home

00:20:18.420 almost a year

00:20:19.840 and,

00:20:21.100 according to the school

00:20:21.760 teachers unions,

00:20:22.620 by the time

00:20:22.940 everyone's vaccinated

00:20:23.980 and we get everyone

00:20:24.960 back to the classroom,

00:20:26.080 it'll be time

00:20:26.680 for the summer break.

00:20:27.720 There will be no

00:20:28.720 school year

00:20:30.480 this year.

00:20:31.800 So Newsom

00:20:32.520 has to pay

00:20:33.740 his constituency

00:20:35.140 lip service

00:20:36.440 by saying,

00:20:37.060 well,

00:20:37.140 I'd like these schools

00:20:38.100 to open,

00:20:38.540 but he also

00:20:39.560 can't do anything

00:20:41.000 sweeping or dramatic

00:20:43.120 or force anyone

00:20:44.260 back into the classroom

00:20:45.440 because unions

00:20:46.840 are his bread and butter.

00:20:48.400 So he just sits there

00:20:49.740 pretending like

00:20:51.220 he wants schools to open

00:20:52.420 but doing nothing

00:20:53.720 about it.

00:20:54.780 And the scary thing is,

00:20:56.340 you know,

00:20:56.600 as we continue

00:20:57.860 to put such blind faith,

00:20:59.420 not we the country,

00:21:00.440 but really the administration

00:21:02.260 now,

00:21:03.540 in Fauci,

00:21:05.020 he's saying,

00:21:06.220 we may be,

00:21:06.680 we may be dealing

00:21:07.620 with this situation

00:21:08.680 until the end

00:21:09.780 of next school year,

00:21:12.840 21 into 22.

00:21:15.260 I just think,

00:21:16.460 at what point

00:21:17.040 have the American people

00:21:17.900 had enough?

00:21:18.900 At what point

00:21:19.480 is there actually

00:21:20.520 just a collective

00:21:21.560 middle finger?

00:21:23.180 Like,

00:21:23.420 if we have to have

00:21:24.240 our classes

00:21:24.900 in the middle

00:21:25.940 of the park

00:21:26.760 taught by a group

00:21:28.300 of parents

00:21:28.840 who's studied up

00:21:30.040 on the latest,

00:21:30.920 we're going to do it

00:21:31.980 because this is such

00:21:33.000 bullshit.

00:21:34.380 How many years

00:21:35.340 can they keep us

00:21:36.220 locked in our apartments

00:21:37.360 without teaching

00:21:38.540 our children

00:21:39.400 while still cashing

00:21:41.020 all of our tax checks?

00:21:43.020 You know,

00:21:43.280 I mean,

00:21:43.580 I do wonder

00:21:44.780 because we are Americans.

00:21:46.260 The American spirit

00:21:47.180 is a free spirit.

00:21:49.720 We like our liberty

00:21:50.580 a lot.

00:21:51.700 And you can see,

00:21:52.480 even in a state

00:21:53.420 like California,

00:21:54.380 Adam,

00:21:54.560 you tell me,

00:21:55.860 that's very blue.

00:21:57.540 I feel like people there

00:21:58.640 are reaching their

00:21:59.880 boiling point.

00:22:00.680 They've had it.

00:22:01.460 Well,

00:22:02.500 you know,

00:22:02.800 you can kind of judge

00:22:04.300 if you live in California,

00:22:06.840 you live in Los Angeles.

00:22:08.560 At the beginning

00:22:09.540 of the shutdown,

00:22:10.340 there wasn't any traffic

00:22:12.360 on the freeways.

00:22:13.960 Now,

00:22:14.320 there's just as much traffic

00:22:15.540 as there ever was,

00:22:17.120 which means

00:22:18.440 people are kind of

00:22:19.460 voting

00:22:19.940 with their feet.

00:22:21.900 So,

00:22:23.120 the state

00:22:23.920 is reopening

00:22:25.500 whether

00:22:26.020 the governor

00:22:27.100 likes it or not

00:22:28.280 because people

00:22:29.000 are just tired of it.

00:22:30.080 And also,

00:22:31.640 you can't cry wolf

00:22:33.080 that many times

00:22:34.800 before people

00:22:35.980 just start heading back

00:22:37.240 sort of

00:22:37.740 into the town square.

00:22:40.020 So,

00:22:40.940 essentially,

00:22:41.920 that's what's happening.

00:22:43.480 Unfortunately,

00:22:44.600 there is no version

00:22:46.100 of that

00:22:46.540 with public schools

00:22:47.660 where kids

00:22:48.340 just start wandering

00:22:49.380 onto campus

00:22:50.560 and opening books.

00:22:52.460 You know,

00:22:52.660 that's going to take

00:22:53.480 a decree.

00:22:55.340 And the reality,

00:22:57.360 Megan,

00:22:58.240 let me tell you

00:22:58.980 the most disappointing

00:22:59.880 part about this

00:23:00.720 entire experiment

00:23:02.680 that we've all been

00:23:03.600 living through

00:23:04.280 for the last year.

00:23:06.300 I cannot believe

00:23:07.600 how cowardly

00:23:08.360 people are.

00:23:09.840 I was reading

00:23:11.140 a tweet

00:23:11.880 that I sent out

00:23:13.380 early in July

00:23:15.760 saying,

00:23:16.520 teachers are

00:23:17.880 heroes

00:23:18.960 and cops

00:23:19.880 are the bad guys,

00:23:21.120 but cops are doing

00:23:21.960 their jobs

00:23:22.680 and the heroes,

00:23:24.220 the teachers

00:23:24.620 won't go back

00:23:25.360 to school.

00:23:26.300 And of course,

00:23:27.040 I always get attacked

00:23:28.100 whenever I call

00:23:29.380 the teachers

00:23:29.860 cowards

00:23:30.620 or whatever

00:23:31.280 I do

00:23:31.760 what I do.

00:23:32.860 And it's

00:23:33.560 the scariest

00:23:34.300 part

00:23:35.020 and most revelatory

00:23:36.000 part about this

00:23:36.740 whole thing

00:23:37.160 is what

00:23:37.680 lemming

00:23:38.300 coward sheep

00:23:39.620 everyone has

00:23:40.220 turned out to be.

00:23:41.660 They're attacking

00:23:42.800 Dr. Drew,

00:23:44.120 they're attacking me,

00:23:45.300 they're attacking

00:23:45.920 anybody

00:23:46.820 who suggests

00:23:47.880 lockdowns

00:23:49.300 are hurting

00:23:50.060 our society,

00:23:51.000 they're hurting

00:23:51.420 the kids,

00:23:52.120 kids are safe,

00:23:53.080 kids should be able

00:23:53.660 to go back to school.

00:23:54.600 This is affecting

00:23:56.180 old people

00:23:57.140 and people

00:23:57.620 with pre-existing

00:23:59.260 conditions,

00:24:00.140 it's not killing

00:24:01.060 healthy people.

00:24:03.200 The insane

00:24:04.000 part about this

00:24:04.780 is how fast

00:24:06.020 society

00:24:07.000 turned

00:24:08.020 on people

00:24:09.000 that are

00:24:09.820 championing

00:24:10.560 the cause

00:24:11.140 of freedom.

00:24:12.660 That's the scary,

00:24:14.160 I expected

00:24:16.040 the government,

00:24:16.760 look,

00:24:17.560 I expected

00:24:18.280 Newsom to be

00:24:18.980 a shit show,

00:24:19.880 he's an idiot,

00:24:20.940 I've interviewed

00:24:21.620 the guy,

00:24:22.100 he doesn't,

00:24:23.300 he has a

00:24:23.680 synapse problem,

00:24:24.720 but he's really

00:24:25.300 a dumb dude.

00:24:26.680 Listen to him

00:24:27.500 debate me,

00:24:28.300 it's on YouTube

00:24:29.280 somewhere,

00:24:30.020 he cannot compete

00:24:31.200 and I am a

00:24:32.140 junior college

00:24:33.260 education,

00:24:34.640 I was put on

00:24:35.360 academic probation

00:24:36.340 at a junior college

00:24:37.640 and Gavin Newsom

00:24:38.760 can't keep up

00:24:39.420 with me.

00:24:40.140 So he's a dumb

00:24:41.320 dude,

00:24:41.960 I didn't expect

00:24:42.760 anything from him,

00:24:44.320 our Mayor Garcetti

00:24:45.240 is a flat out

00:24:46.380 pussy,

00:24:47.240 I didn't expect

00:24:48.120 anything from that

00:24:49.260 guy,

00:24:49.560 he is a total

00:24:50.560 puss,

00:24:51.560 no problemo,

00:24:53.200 what about

00:24:53.800 the people?

00:24:55.080 What about

00:24:55.520 the comedians?

00:24:57.180 Where are the

00:24:57.660 voices?

00:24:58.320 Who's pushing

00:24:58.900 back?

00:24:59.920 That's the

00:25:00.540 disappointing part,

00:25:01.700 not Newsom

00:25:02.580 and Garcetti,

00:25:03.520 I knew who

00:25:04.180 they were,

00:25:05.120 it's everyone

00:25:05.740 else.

00:25:07.080 What's wrong

00:25:07.700 with everybody?

00:25:09.280 Why is everyone,

00:25:09.920 and everyone

00:25:10.460 is so scared

00:25:11.800 to speak up

00:25:12.720 or to say

00:25:13.300 anything.

00:25:14.200 Ugh,

00:25:15.200 people are

00:25:15.720 such cowards.

00:25:17.340 He's like a

00:25:18.120 JFK figure,

00:25:19.140 he's got the

00:25:19.620 good hair,

00:25:20.500 you know,

00:25:20.780 he's somewhat

00:25:21.640 good looking.

00:25:23.240 I remember

00:25:23.740 when he was

00:25:24.160 married to

00:25:24.560 Kimberly Guilfoyle,

00:25:25.440 they did this

00:25:25.840 big spread

00:25:26.600 where she had

00:25:27.040 the flowing

00:25:27.460 dress and

00:25:28.160 you could just

00:25:28.580 tell they were

00:25:29.020 sort of wannabes,

00:25:30.100 you know,

00:25:30.260 they were kind

00:25:30.640 of wannabes

00:25:31.220 and I think

00:25:32.860 he's still a

00:25:33.500 wannabe and

00:25:34.120 he's good

00:25:34.440 looking enough,

00:25:35.120 it's very rare

00:25:35.680 in a politician

00:25:36.280 that he keeps

00:25:36.820 getting elevated

00:25:37.660 to the next

00:25:38.180 position and

00:25:39.560 yet he clearly

00:25:40.620 has no spine,

00:25:41.900 you know,

00:25:42.060 and the recall

00:25:42.840 thing is interesting

00:25:43.660 because it wasn't

00:25:44.240 until that started

00:25:44.860 to get really

00:25:46.220 more serious

00:25:47.100 and start to look

00:25:48.040 like it had some

00:25:48.560 momentum behind it

00:25:49.660 that he was like,

00:25:50.920 you know what,

00:25:51.540 let's open the

00:25:52.100 schools,

00:25:53.180 but the unions

00:25:54.760 are standing

00:25:55.140 their ground

00:25:55.520 saying,

00:25:56.220 screw you,

00:25:57.020 make us

00:25:57.720 and now,

00:25:58.920 you know,

00:25:59.160 his bluff has

00:25:59.620 been called

00:26:00.140 and we'll see,

00:26:01.380 I mean,

00:26:01.500 do you think,

00:26:02.240 do you think

00:26:03.140 there's actually

00:26:03.640 going to be a

00:26:04.180 recall?

00:26:04.500 I think there

00:26:05.840 is,

00:26:06.080 it sounds like

00:26:06.720 there is

00:26:07.140 and it'd be

00:26:07.520 nice if there

00:26:08.140 was and to

00:26:09.360 circle back

00:26:10.240 to the

00:26:10.640 disappointment,

00:26:11.920 I think we've

00:26:13.040 figured out

00:26:13.820 that with

00:26:14.560 enough social

00:26:16.440 pressure,

00:26:18.420 almost any

00:26:19.040 entity will

00:26:20.640 cave,

00:26:21.400 right?

00:26:22.440 And here's

00:26:23.280 what I'm

00:26:24.880 saying.

00:26:25.760 If we

00:26:27.000 went all

00:26:28.380 out and

00:26:29.180 pressured the

00:26:30.140 unions to

00:26:31.080 reopen the

00:26:31.980 schools,

00:26:32.380 if the

00:26:32.860 LA Times

00:26:33.820 was writing

00:26:34.500 articles every

00:26:35.480 day,

00:26:35.980 if CNN

00:26:36.480 was hitting

00:26:37.680 it hard,

00:26:38.640 if celebrities

00:26:39.500 were tweeting,

00:26:40.940 we would force

00:26:41.780 them to do

00:26:42.500 it.

00:26:42.940 The point is,

00:26:43.720 is none of

00:26:44.300 those entities

00:26:44.880 are doing

00:26:45.760 any of that

00:26:46.600 and that's

00:26:47.560 the sad

00:26:48.040 part.

00:26:48.740 I think we

00:26:49.300 could shame

00:26:49.940 the unions

00:26:52.880 into opening

00:26:54.120 the schools

00:26:55.200 of California

00:26:56.420 but no

00:26:57.760 celebrity,

00:26:58.900 no comedian,

00:27:00.160 no public

00:27:01.420 figure

00:27:02.020 they're not

00:27:02.740 going on

00:27:03.180 record.

00:27:04.240 And I

00:27:04.620 don't know,

00:27:05.080 where's the

00:27:05.500 Los Angeles

00:27:06.040 Times?

00:27:06.880 Aren't we

00:27:07.240 supposed to

00:27:07.620 follow the

00:27:08.160 science?

00:27:09.320 What about

00:27:09.640 the science?

00:27:10.940 I thought it

00:27:11.340 was all about

00:27:11.840 following good.

00:27:12.620 Good, then do

00:27:13.320 your thing,

00:27:14.560 Los Angeles

00:27:15.100 Times.

00:27:15.540 Instead of

00:27:16.100 writing another

00:27:16.860 op-ed piece

00:27:18.040 about the

00:27:18.480 dangers of

00:27:19.160 hydroxychloroquine,

00:27:20.760 why don't you

00:27:21.100 attack the

00:27:21.740 teachers union

00:27:22.440 or are you

00:27:23.780 on their

00:27:24.320 side?

00:27:25.200 See, this is

00:27:25.720 the problem

00:27:26.260 with the

00:27:26.680 supermajority

00:27:27.600 in California.

00:27:28.480 The Los

00:27:28.860 Angeles Times

00:27:29.680 agrees with

00:27:30.620 the teachers

00:27:31.080 unions.

00:27:32.020 They like

00:27:32.680 the teachers

00:27:33.180 unions.

00:27:33.860 They are on

00:27:34.780 the same

00:27:35.280 side politically

00:27:36.780 as the

00:27:37.200 teachers unions,

00:27:37.880 so they're

00:27:38.260 not going to

00:27:38.760 do anything.

00:27:40.380 Everyone should

00:27:41.040 be rising up

00:27:41.960 in unison and

00:27:43.320 shaming those

00:27:44.220 idiots into

00:27:45.380 doing their

00:27:45.940 jobs.

00:27:47.600 And they've

00:27:47.880 leaned into

00:27:48.440 their own

00:27:48.940 fear.

00:27:50.060 They've leaned

00:27:50.820 in their own

00:27:51.360 fear.

00:27:52.100 There's the

00:27:52.460 group that's

00:27:52.960 genuinely gotten

00:27:53.820 themselves terrified

00:27:54.920 of COVID,

00:27:55.740 even though if

00:27:56.700 you are under

00:27:57.180 the age of

00:27:57.580 70, you have

00:27:58.220 over 99%

00:27:59.540 chance of

00:28:00.080 surviving

00:28:00.500 COVID.

00:28:01.300 But there's

00:28:01.700 a group

00:28:01.940 that's gotten

00:28:02.340 themselves

00:28:02.760 convinced it's

00:28:03.560 like the

00:28:03.840 plague.

00:28:04.380 And the

00:28:05.000 media helps

00:28:05.700 by playing

00:28:06.280 up any

00:28:06.800 case of

00:28:07.280 somebody who

00:28:07.680 didn't have

00:28:08.080 a pre-existing

00:28:08.660 condition and

00:28:10.320 was young and

00:28:11.340 died.

00:28:11.760 I mean, they

00:28:11.960 will play it

00:28:12.480 up so that

00:28:13.460 everybody knows

00:28:14.320 who that

00:28:14.780 person was.

00:28:16.200 You could do

00:28:17.100 the same thing

00:28:17.540 with the flu.

00:28:18.120 Every year, if you

00:28:18.760 wanted to take

00:28:19.300 somebody who was

00:28:19.980 young and you

00:28:21.020 didn't think was

00:28:21.460 otherwise susceptible

00:28:22.580 to death from

00:28:23.340 getting the flu,

00:28:24.440 many people do

00:28:25.460 die of it.

00:28:26.520 But because

00:28:27.600 there is sort

00:28:28.600 of a COVID

00:28:29.140 porn need by

00:28:30.700 the media,

00:28:31.340 they'll take

00:28:31.700 one case and

00:28:32.220 really scare

00:28:32.680 the hell out

00:28:33.080 of people and

00:28:33.440 people walk

00:28:33.880 away thinking

00:28:34.340 they actually

00:28:34.800 might die

00:28:35.260 from this

00:28:35.560 thing.

00:28:35.820 So you've

00:28:36.340 got people

00:28:36.620 who are

00:28:36.900 genuinely

00:28:37.320 fearful and

00:28:38.440 they're not

00:28:38.720 paying attention

00:28:39.280 or because

00:28:39.680 they're just

00:28:40.020 people who

00:28:40.420 like drama

00:28:40.920 in their

00:28:41.160 lives and

00:28:41.580 they lean

00:28:42.360 into fear

00:28:42.820 as a general

00:28:43.420 matter.

00:28:44.340 And then you

00:28:44.560 got the

00:28:44.800 people who

00:28:45.260 know the

00:28:45.820 truth, but

00:28:47.020 they're fearful

00:28:47.720 about getting

00:28:49.480 mean tweets,

00:28:50.580 right, about

00:28:50.880 getting attacked

00:28:51.460 like you say,

00:28:52.060 like Dr.

00:28:52.480 Drew or you

00:28:53.300 or, you

00:28:54.680 know, Dr.

00:28:55.560 Atlas who

00:28:56.160 was at the

00:28:56.560 White House

00:28:56.900 who just

00:28:57.120 got killed.

00:28:58.020 Like any

00:28:58.860 sort of

00:28:59.480 unorthodox

00:29:00.960 pushback is

00:29:02.380 publicly shamed

00:29:03.420 as you don't

00:29:04.440 give a shit

00:29:04.820 about grandma

00:29:05.460 and nobody

00:29:07.100 wants to be

00:29:07.600 accused of

00:29:08.040 that.

00:29:08.260 But we're

00:29:08.480 at the

00:29:08.720 point now

00:29:09.180 where it's

00:29:09.460 like when

00:29:10.500 the CDC

00:29:11.080 is on your

00:29:11.860 side and

00:29:13.360 just no one's

00:29:13.960 listening to

00:29:14.480 it, it's

00:29:14.860 time to rise

00:29:15.420 up.

00:29:15.760 It's maybe

00:29:16.080 time for an

00:29:16.700 editorial.

00:29:17.920 Yeah, I

00:29:18.780 agree.

00:29:19.280 It's an

00:29:19.840 interesting

00:29:20.520 glimpse into

00:29:22.160 the human

00:29:22.740 psyche, which

00:29:23.760 is they're

00:29:24.140 so cowardly

00:29:25.500 and so

00:29:26.380 worried about

00:29:26.900 the mob

00:29:27.480 turning on

00:29:28.140 them, they'll

00:29:29.080 say almost

00:29:30.080 anything and

00:29:31.460 they'll repress

00:29:32.940 almost any

00:29:33.780 thought.

00:29:34.740 And they

00:29:34.940 don't really

00:29:35.380 care about

00:29:36.140 right and

00:29:36.740 wrong and

00:29:37.280 science and

00:29:38.100 data and

00:29:38.800 numbers.

00:29:39.400 They'll just

00:29:39.700 sheepishly go

00:29:40.540 along with

00:29:41.080 everyone because

00:29:41.800 everyone,

00:29:43.200 evidently, you

00:29:45.360 know, it's

00:29:45.660 funny, you know,

00:29:47.040 they used to

00:29:47.460 say like,

00:29:48.120 number one,

00:29:48.940 fear, you

00:29:49.700 know, snakes,

00:29:51.260 number two,

00:29:52.060 public speaking,

00:29:53.360 you know, number

00:29:53.740 three, spiders.

00:29:55.720 But it's really

00:29:56.480 being shamed and

00:29:58.800 pushed out of

00:30:00.880 the village,

00:30:02.200 essentially.

00:30:03.060 That must be the

00:30:04.300 number one fear

00:30:05.140 of all human

00:30:06.140 beings.

00:30:07.060 And maybe when

00:30:07.880 they were talking

00:30:08.580 about snakes

00:30:10.220 and public

00:30:11.120 speaking, they

00:30:11.920 didn't have a

00:30:12.440 modality for

00:30:13.800 pushing everyone

00:30:14.680 out of the, or

00:30:16.020 shaming everyone

00:30:16.840 in the public

00:30:17.420 square like we

00:30:18.220 do now with

00:30:18.880 Twitter, but

00:30:19.540 evidently, that's

00:30:21.500 almost every

00:30:22.180 human being's

00:30:22.920 greatest fear

00:30:23.700 because that's

00:30:24.380 the only

00:30:24.840 explanation for

00:30:26.220 why everyone's

00:30:26.920 going along with

00:30:27.680 this.

00:30:28.800 And by the

00:30:29.740 way, it's

00:30:30.680 awesome if

00:30:31.680 you're Amazon

00:30:32.420 and it's

00:30:33.200 awesome if

00:30:34.120 you're Gavin

00:30:35.240 Newsom because

00:30:36.020 you have a

00:30:36.440 whole bunch of

00:30:36.940 these scared

00:30:37.580 subjects just

00:30:38.580 sheepishly going

00:30:39.520 along with

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00:30:41.000 tell them to

00:30:41.580 do.

00:30:42.720 More with

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00:30:45.280 seems like

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00:30:46.180 everywhere,

00:30:46.920 practically everyone

00:30:47.720 is connected

00:30:48.340 on their

00:30:48.900 devices, right?

00:30:50.140 We don't look

00:30:50.760 up anymore.

00:30:51.260 We don't take

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00:30:52.580 down at our

00:30:53.000 screens.

00:30:54.220 In fact, they

00:30:54.680 say the average

00:30:55.140 person was

00:30:55.640 connected almost

00:30:56.220 seven hours a

00:30:57.060 day last year

00:30:58.240 and 64% of

00:30:59.840 adults admit that

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00:32:12.700 there's the group

00:32:13.700 that says nothing

00:32:14.500 because they're

00:32:14.880 afraid the mob

00:32:15.540 will turn on

00:32:16.000 them, and then

00:32:16.460 there's the group

00:32:16.980 that chooses to

00:32:18.380 join the mob

00:32:19.220 either because

00:32:20.740 they're woke or

00:32:22.080 what have you, or

00:32:23.200 because they just

00:32:24.560 want a virtue

00:32:25.000 signal.

00:32:25.560 You know, I

00:32:26.000 think there's a

00:32:26.460 huge section of

00:32:27.180 the population

00:32:27.640 that joins these

00:32:28.360 mobs because they

00:32:29.060 think it's

00:32:29.400 insurance.

00:32:30.260 You know, like,

00:32:30.700 I joined the mob,

00:32:31.460 remember?

00:32:31.880 How could I be

00:32:33.260 somebody you

00:32:34.780 want to cancel?

00:32:35.460 You know, like,

00:32:35.760 I wanted Roseanne

00:32:37.260 canceled, whatever

00:32:38.240 it is, you know,

00:32:38.880 pick the latest

00:32:39.760 controversy, but

00:32:41.020 the one that was

00:32:41.940 in the news

00:32:42.480 recently was

00:32:44.720 the New York

00:32:46.260 Times pushed

00:32:47.780 out its

00:32:49.800 COVID reporter.

00:32:50.980 I mean, this

00:32:51.540 guy was their

00:32:53.640 COVID reporter.

00:32:55.180 His name is

00:32:55.860 Don McNeil,

00:32:56.840 Jr., and he's

00:32:57.980 been at the

00:32:58.420 Times for

00:32:59.720 45 years.

00:33:02.220 45 years.

00:33:04.940 I listen to him

00:33:06.160 often.

00:33:06.820 I listen to the

00:33:07.540 Daily, that's their

00:33:08.340 podcast over there,

00:33:09.340 and it's left and

00:33:10.300 it's fine, but I

00:33:10.820 like different points

00:33:11.520 of view of coming

00:33:12.080 into my, you

00:33:12.880 know, I like not

00:33:14.240 just all right-wing

00:33:14.900 stuff.

00:33:16.080 And he's

00:33:17.240 definitely a

00:33:18.580 COVID panicker

00:33:19.980 kind of guy, you

00:33:20.900 know, like, in

00:33:21.400 terms of his

00:33:21.860 reporting, he's

00:33:22.320 been jumping up

00:33:22.960 and down.

00:33:23.520 So, of course,

00:33:24.100 the Times should

00:33:24.920 love him.

00:33:26.900 And he got

00:33:27.820 forced out

00:33:28.700 because it

00:33:30.540 came out

00:33:31.200 that in

00:33:31.780 2019, he

00:33:33.860 was on

00:33:34.700 some trip

00:33:35.500 overseas with

00:33:36.360 a bunch of

00:33:36.940 like teenagers,

00:33:38.500 like young

00:33:39.320 teenagers, and

00:33:41.000 it was like some

00:33:42.540 educational thing,

00:33:43.300 and he was

00:33:43.600 asked at a

00:33:44.060 dinner by a

00:33:44.660 student whether

00:33:45.300 he, McNeil,

00:33:46.460 thought a

00:33:46.780 classmate of

00:33:47.520 hers should

00:33:48.820 have been

00:33:49.100 suspended for a

00:33:49.840 video the kid

00:33:50.420 made when she

00:33:50.980 was 12, in

00:33:53.380 which this kid

00:33:54.160 used a racial

00:33:55.060 slur, the

00:33:55.760 N-word.

00:33:57.020 And McNeil

00:33:57.920 has now

00:33:59.040 admitted that

00:33:59.980 he asked the

00:34:01.240 student telling

00:34:01.740 him this story

00:34:02.420 if the 12-year-old

00:34:03.980 had called

00:34:04.940 somebody else

00:34:05.480 the slur, or

00:34:06.240 if she was

00:34:06.740 rapping or

00:34:07.660 quoting a

00:34:08.180 book title, and

00:34:09.260 he admits that

00:34:09.980 he actually

00:34:10.560 said the N-word

00:34:12.140 when having

00:34:13.820 this exchange,

00:34:14.580 like when

00:34:14.840 trying to

00:34:15.300 quote, he

00:34:16.020 was like,

00:34:16.340 did she

00:34:16.660 say, and

00:34:17.740 he didn't

00:34:18.080 say N-word,

00:34:18.680 he said the

00:34:19.120 word.

00:34:19.880 In this

00:34:20.500 context or in

00:34:21.080 that context,

00:34:22.160 this is why

00:34:22.680 he's now been

00:34:23.080 fired.

00:34:23.680 His 45-year

00:34:25.400 career is

00:34:26.220 over, because

00:34:27.320 in quoting

00:34:28.400 someone who

00:34:29.500 used the

00:34:29.800 N-word, he

00:34:31.100 actually said

00:34:31.960 it.

00:34:33.340 Adam, the

00:34:34.820 New York

00:34:35.320 Times staff,

00:34:36.780 to its credit,

00:34:37.720 the New York

00:34:37.980 Times originally

00:34:38.680 said, look, it

00:34:39.580 doesn't appear

00:34:40.100 his intentions

00:34:40.660 were hateful or

00:34:42.120 malicious, and

00:34:43.340 Dean Bacay was

00:34:44.280 like, I'm not

00:34:44.760 going to fire

00:34:45.140 the guy, you

00:34:45.800 know, like,

00:34:46.200 he's very

00:34:46.660 sorry, trust

00:34:47.280 me, you'll

00:34:47.680 never do it

00:34:48.100 again.

00:34:49.620 150 staffers

00:34:52.460 wrote a

00:34:54.020 letter, F-U,

00:34:56.220 intention is

00:34:58.160 irrelevant, what

00:34:59.860 matters is

00:35:01.460 impact, all

00:35:03.340 that matters

00:35:04.000 is how the

00:35:05.680 quote, victims

00:35:06.620 feel, and

00:35:08.960 we got the

00:35:09.600 stuff we've

00:35:10.620 gotten so

00:35:11.260 often over the

00:35:11.920 past year of

00:35:12.600 like, the

00:35:13.440 speech itself

00:35:14.340 was somehow

00:35:15.000 violent, and

00:35:16.480 everyone there

00:35:17.480 was in pain,

00:35:19.300 and we've

00:35:22.120 been disrespected,

00:35:23.600 now they want a

00:35:24.720 reinvestigation of

00:35:25.780 the whole

00:35:26.060 incident, they

00:35:27.260 want an

00:35:27.660 organizational

00:35:28.680 study into

00:35:29.960 how racial

00:35:30.540 biases affect

00:35:31.420 editorial

00:35:31.880 decisions, the

00:35:33.460 Times is on

00:35:34.140 the knee,

00:35:35.140 McNeil is

00:35:35.760 out, and

00:35:37.320 we've now

00:35:37.940 gotten to

00:35:38.300 the point

00:35:39.360 officially where

00:35:40.400 all that

00:35:40.960 matters is

00:35:42.200 not intention,

00:35:43.320 but quote,

00:35:44.360 impact, and

00:35:45.520 you can always

00:35:46.220 find someone

00:35:46.920 willing to

00:35:47.380 say they've

00:35:47.820 been negatively

00:35:48.800 impacted by

00:35:50.640 someone's

00:35:51.240 alleged

00:35:51.840 misstep.

00:35:52.840 remember when

00:35:54.180 the mayor

00:35:54.880 of Oakland

00:35:55.820 found all

00:35:57.600 those hoops

00:35:58.980 hanging from

00:36:00.180 the trees at

00:36:01.080 the park in

00:36:01.880 Oakland, and

00:36:03.240 of course decided

00:36:04.300 there were

00:36:04.680 nooses, right?

00:36:06.160 Yes.

00:36:07.060 Then the

00:36:07.700 black man who

00:36:08.520 put all the

00:36:09.060 hoops up said,

00:36:10.720 I put them up

00:36:11.380 for exercise,

00:36:12.780 it's the way I

00:36:13.420 exercise at the

00:36:14.380 park, or people

00:36:15.180 exercise at the

00:36:16.100 park, and the

00:36:17.420 mayor of Oakland

00:36:18.000 said, I'm still

00:36:19.540 going to call in

00:36:20.300 the FBI, and

00:36:21.100 we're going to

00:36:21.400 investigate it,

00:36:22.200 it's a hate

00:36:22.600 crime.

00:36:23.280 Now, first

00:36:24.600 off, you want

00:36:25.160 to talk about a

00:36:25.600 waste of

00:36:26.060 taxpayers'

00:36:26.700 money, number

00:36:27.200 one.

00:36:27.500 Number two,

00:36:28.700 you're just

00:36:29.180 admitting into a

00:36:30.200 microphone you're

00:36:30.840 a fucking

00:36:31.280 imbecile, if

00:36:32.440 that's what you

00:36:33.000 said.

00:36:33.540 If you're saying

00:36:34.280 that into a

00:36:35.020 microphone, you're

00:36:36.060 saying I'm

00:36:36.660 incompetent and

00:36:37.620 inept, and I

00:36:38.520 have no idea why

00:36:39.500 we would want

00:36:40.500 this person to

00:36:41.140 run a major

00:36:42.380 city, but either

00:36:43.160 way, didn't we

00:36:45.560 just get our

00:36:46.120 answer, and

00:36:47.120 isn't it all

00:36:47.960 context and

00:36:49.320 intent?

00:36:50.300 And this is a

00:36:51.400 big deal, because

00:36:52.520 a lot, it's a

00:36:55.000 very interesting

00:36:55.720 bigger point, which

00:36:56.840 is so many

00:36:58.620 young white

00:37:00.100 people love

00:37:02.340 rap music, and

00:37:04.340 are influenced by

00:37:05.300 rap music, and

00:37:06.680 then repeat the

00:37:08.060 lyrics, and

00:37:08.980 then get into

00:37:10.540 trouble for

00:37:11.280 repeating the

00:37:12.040 lyrics, which is

00:37:12.800 essentially an

00:37:13.660 homage to the

00:37:15.680 music that they're

00:37:17.600 enjoying.

00:37:18.160 happening, and

00:37:18.860 we see no

00:37:20.440 difference.

00:37:21.260 There's no

00:37:21.860 difference between

00:37:22.860 calling someone

00:37:24.380 the N-word or

00:37:25.840 repeating what

00:37:27.000 someone else

00:37:27.740 said.

00:37:29.160 There's an

00:37:30.140 absolute difference.

00:37:32.460 It's night and

00:37:33.300 day.

00:37:34.180 It's insanity.

00:37:35.820 And anyone who

00:37:37.320 doesn't see that

00:37:38.480 difference should

00:37:39.840 be labeled an

00:37:41.080 imbecile.

00:37:41.660 And if you

00:37:43.280 write for a

00:37:43.980 newspaper, and

00:37:45.340 you're a

00:37:45.720 reporter in any

00:37:47.120 capacity, and

00:37:48.120 you don't know

00:37:48.540 the difference, and

00:37:50.080 you don't know

00:37:50.700 contact, then you

00:37:52.460 should be fired,

00:37:53.480 because you're

00:37:53.980 incapable of doing

00:37:54.900 your job.

00:37:55.560 How would you, in

00:37:56.400 fact, report on

00:37:58.000 something if, in

00:37:58.900 fact, whatever part

00:38:00.140 of your brain that

00:38:01.380 perceives context

00:38:02.500 had somehow been

00:38:03.480 destroyed with a

00:38:05.100 soldering iron?

00:38:06.900 Well, you know

00:38:07.200 what it does?

00:38:07.840 The focus on

00:38:08.520 impact instead of

00:38:09.560 intent, it

00:38:10.640 eliminates the

00:38:12.620 ability to make

00:38:13.320 mistakes.

00:38:14.780 You're done.

00:38:16.260 Mistakes, no one

00:38:17.140 gives a shit if it

00:38:17.760 was a mistake.

00:38:18.400 All they care about

00:38:19.060 is that you did

00:38:19.600 it.

00:38:20.380 And no one can

00:38:21.100 go through life

00:38:21.700 like that.

00:38:22.840 Especially, especially

00:38:24.400 when, if the

00:38:25.740 impact, right, if

00:38:27.000 your negative impact

00:38:28.320 is being judged by

00:38:30.780 today's standards,

00:38:31.600 where there are

00:38:32.620 landmines everywhere,

00:38:34.560 right?

00:38:34.820 Like, this one,

00:38:36.080 yes, you should

00:38:36.880 know that you

00:38:37.340 shouldn't utter

00:38:37.880 that word.

00:38:38.620 I get that.

00:38:39.680 I understand he

00:38:40.480 was trying to do

00:38:41.160 it to quote

00:38:41.840 somebody, but

00:38:42.300 whatever.

00:38:42.600 It was a dumb

00:38:43.160 thing to do.

00:38:44.060 On a parallel

00:38:45.000 lane to that

00:38:45.660 story at the

00:38:46.140 Times, there was

00:38:46.740 another story about

00:38:47.880 this guy.

00:38:49.100 I think he's one

00:38:49.960 of the producers

00:38:50.500 of that podcast,

00:38:51.700 The Daily, named

00:38:52.320 Andy Mills.

00:38:53.460 He was effectively

00:38:54.460 forced out.

00:38:55.060 He resigned, but

00:38:56.180 he was effectively

00:38:56.760 forced out because

00:38:57.700 of, they said he

00:38:58.660 had a Me Too

00:38:59.240 movement, a Me

00:39:00.560 Too moment, at a

00:39:02.500 different employer

00:39:03.580 back in 2018.

00:39:04.660 And it got

00:39:05.460 dragged back up.

00:39:06.760 And I was like,

00:39:07.620 well, what was he

00:39:08.540 accused of doing?

00:39:09.260 I don't know.

00:39:09.820 I'm not sure why

00:39:10.680 he didn't get

00:39:11.100 booted out of his

00:39:11.700 last organization.

00:39:13.040 And I was looking

00:39:13.680 and looking and

00:39:14.200 looking.

00:39:14.500 Basically, what he

00:39:15.260 was accused of

00:39:15.840 doing was he got

00:39:16.860 drunk in a bar.

00:39:18.380 He, like, took a

00:39:20.780 drink and dumped it

00:39:21.800 on a woman's head

00:39:22.940 and made flirtatious

00:39:24.360 comments.

00:39:25.440 All right.

00:39:26.220 That is not worth

00:39:27.380 you getting fired

00:39:28.740 from your next job,

00:39:30.980 right?

00:39:31.200 from your next job

00:39:32.220 that didn't even

00:39:33.640 involve these

00:39:34.600 colleagues, right?

00:39:36.460 But because he

00:39:37.200 was big on one

00:39:41.120 of their most

00:39:41.560 popular podcasts,

00:39:43.820 and apparently,

00:39:44.940 I don't know,

00:39:46.480 they just thought

00:39:47.000 he was getting a

00:39:47.760 pass.

00:39:48.700 They thought he

00:39:49.180 was getting a

00:39:49.700 pass.

00:39:50.600 And he was also,

00:39:51.260 I think, involved

00:39:51.780 in the Caliphate

00:39:53.600 podcast, which was

00:39:55.040 completely undermined.

00:39:56.480 And it turned out to

00:39:57.340 be, like, false.

00:39:58.040 And they had to

00:39:58.440 take it down and

00:39:59.040 all this stuff,

00:39:59.620 and he didn't

00:40:00.180 get fired.

00:40:00.760 But the point is,

00:40:02.600 the Times is now

00:40:03.500 doing a couple of

00:40:04.460 things, right?

00:40:05.320 Like, if you've had

00:40:06.320 any misstep,

00:40:08.140 currently or in

00:40:09.980 your past, even if

00:40:11.920 you've atoned for

00:40:13.020 it and paid for it,

00:40:15.240 you're done.

00:40:16.440 I don't know how

00:40:17.460 we can live in

00:40:18.520 this world.

00:40:19.880 Here's the problem,

00:40:20.960 as far as I can

00:40:23.080 tell.

00:40:23.380 What the Times is

00:40:25.900 doing is the

00:40:27.140 Times creates

00:40:28.380 politics.

00:40:29.380 So here's the

00:40:32.140 world we're living

00:40:32.940 in.

00:40:34.140 These, you know,

00:40:35.400 social justice

00:40:36.400 warriors who are

00:40:37.480 out excelling

00:40:39.980 everyone why

00:40:41.520 they're immoral and

00:40:42.620 why everything's

00:40:43.280 problematic and

00:40:45.040 why everything

00:40:46.280 they do or

00:40:47.740 did is evil or

00:40:49.980 racist or

00:40:50.680 homophobic or

00:40:51.680 whatever it is.

00:40:52.400 So the New York

00:40:55.240 Times has deemed

00:40:56.400 themselves the

00:40:58.040 purveyor of

00:41:00.520 morality.

00:41:02.560 So of course you

00:41:03.400 have to cleanse

00:41:04.380 within your own

00:41:05.960 ranks because if

00:41:07.160 you're going to

00:41:08.280 announce that you

00:41:10.120 are the new

00:41:10.800 moral standard,

00:41:11.900 you can't have

00:41:13.120 anyone in your

00:41:13.900 ranks that did

00:41:14.800 anything at all.

00:41:16.580 So it's going to

00:41:17.920 be an internal

00:41:19.260 cleansing and an

00:41:20.700 external judging

00:41:22.460 of the world.

00:41:23.800 So how can you

00:41:24.940 call Trump a

00:41:26.040 misogynist every

00:41:27.660 10 minutes if

00:41:29.000 there may be some

00:41:30.300 misogyny lurking

00:41:31.860 within your own

00:41:32.560 ranks?

00:41:33.000 So they're going to

00:41:33.480 have to purge

00:41:36.020 their own, which

00:41:37.440 is now we're into

00:41:38.260 some scary

00:41:38.920 territory, right?

00:41:40.520 Absolutely terrifying.

00:41:42.660 I'm thinking about

00:41:43.420 the quicksand that

00:41:44.880 we're all walking

00:41:45.540 on if this is a

00:41:46.700 standard where you

00:41:47.320 can't, you know,

00:41:48.100 the evolving

00:41:48.660 standards of what's

00:41:49.600 okay or what's

00:41:50.340 offensive, you can't

00:41:51.500 keep up with it.

00:41:52.280 You know, this year

00:41:53.640 alone they changed,

00:41:54.600 they got rid of the

00:41:55.100 name Redskins, as

00:41:55.960 you know, the

00:41:56.660 Cleveland Indians say

00:41:57.600 they're getting rid of

00:41:58.180 their name.

00:41:58.620 And then just last

00:41:59.380 Friday there was an

00:42:00.020 op-ed by somebody,

00:42:01.700 some hysteric, Jamie

00:42:04.100 Goodall was her

00:42:05.520 name.

00:42:06.740 I think it was a

00:42:07.380 woman, yeah, in the

00:42:08.500 Washington Post had

00:42:09.860 an op-ed saying

00:42:10.660 Buccaneers has to

00:42:11.820 go.

00:42:12.760 Buccaneers is a

00:42:14.460 celebration of

00:42:15.500 piracy.

00:42:17.300 She said it may

00:42:18.140 seem like innocent

00:42:18.860 fun and pride in a

00:42:20.320 local culture, but

00:42:21.020 there is danger in

00:42:21.960 romanticizing ruthless

00:42:23.240 cutthroats who

00:42:24.460 created a crisis in

00:42:25.360 world trade when they

00:42:26.080 captured and

00:42:26.540 plundered, plundered

00:42:27.620 Adam, thousands of

00:42:28.860 ships on the

00:42:29.440 Atlantic trade routes.

00:42:31.180 Okay, so the

00:42:32.520 Buccaneers, they're

00:42:34.660 on, they're on

00:42:36.000 shaky ground and

00:42:37.720 anybody who would

00:42:38.400 defend the Buccaneers

00:42:39.240 could potentially be

00:42:40.020 on shaky ground as

00:42:41.060 having a negative

00:42:42.000 quote, impact on

00:42:44.120 someone like Jamie

00:42:45.520 Goodall, some staff

00:42:47.500 historian who's now

00:42:48.360 decided to be the

00:42:49.160 moral arbiter of us

00:42:50.340 all.

00:42:51.200 And it's like, I

00:42:52.140 don't know, the

00:42:52.640 other piece of it is

00:42:54.540 impact on whom, right?

00:42:56.500 Because Don McNeil.

00:42:58.520 Those days are gone.

00:43:00.780 Yeah.

00:43:01.040 Well, you tell me

00:43:02.080 because Don McNeil

00:43:02.800 says that word, right?

00:43:04.220 He says that word

00:43:04.980 trying to quote

00:43:05.600 somebody and he's

00:43:06.700 fired after 45 years

00:43:08.020 of the times.

00:43:08.660 I just watched the

00:43:09.520 Super Bowl where

00:43:10.900 The Weeknd performed

00:43:14.280 who says that word

00:43:15.840 every other line in

00:43:17.580 some of his songs.

00:43:18.500 You know, to your

00:43:19.140 point about the rap

00:43:19.800 community, every other

00:43:20.600 line.

00:43:20.880 And I saw Cardi B in

00:43:22.820 one of the commercials

00:43:23.540 who says that word

00:43:24.720 every other line in

00:43:25.980 some of her songs, not

00:43:26.760 to mention some other

00:43:27.440 stuff.

00:43:27.800 So, I mean, I get

00:43:30.280 that those latter two

00:43:31.340 people are black and

00:43:32.840 Don McNeil is white,

00:43:34.120 but it does beg the

00:43:36.860 question, impact on

00:43:38.960 whom?

00:43:40.260 Well, look, the part

00:43:42.680 where there is some

00:43:44.480 plausible, some line

00:43:48.080 you could draw through

00:43:49.540 some sort of positive

00:43:51.400 impact versus, you

00:43:53.300 know, them just

00:43:54.060 controlling your life.

00:43:55.940 Like the first time the

00:43:58.260 whole Washington Redskins

00:43:59.680 thing flared up and

00:44:02.100 then died down about 10

00:44:03.720 years ago is because

00:44:05.240 they went and did a

00:44:08.520 survey of indigenous

00:44:10.880 people or American

00:44:12.380 Indians or whatever

00:44:13.460 whatever we're calling

00:44:14.560 them and they said

00:44:16.140 they don't care and

00:44:18.360 that's why it went away

00:44:19.780 the first time because

00:44:20.920 they were like, all

00:44:21.840 right, the people who

00:44:23.000 were trying to save

00:44:23.920 don't care because they

00:44:25.220 have bigger fish to

00:44:26.360 fry than the

00:44:28.140 Washington Redskins

00:44:29.300 logo on the side of

00:44:30.560 the helmet.

00:44:31.400 They have real

00:44:32.060 problems.

00:44:32.760 And so that

00:44:34.600 community is

00:44:37.020 per capita probably

00:44:38.960 worse off than any

00:44:40.300 community in the

00:44:41.700 United States.

00:44:42.580 I think if you go to

00:44:43.560 the community with the

00:44:44.640 most problems and

00:44:46.160 ask them about the

00:44:47.160 most frivolous of

00:44:48.720 their problems, then

00:44:50.180 most of them are going

00:44:50.960 to say, eh, we're

00:44:52.300 dealing with the

00:44:53.200 adolescent diabetes and

00:44:54.960 poverty over here.

00:44:56.160 We're not so

00:44:57.040 interested in the

00:44:58.240 Washington Redskins

00:44:59.340 logo.

00:44:59.780 So, and this thing

00:45:02.120 where, who does it

00:45:03.260 affect?

00:45:03.720 It affects nobody.

00:45:05.580 None of this

00:45:06.040 affects, most of all

00:45:07.440 of this doesn't

00:45:08.140 affect most of the

00:45:10.300 stuff we're talking

00:45:10.960 about.

00:45:11.380 I mean, circling back

00:45:12.480 to the teachers, kids

00:45:13.800 don't have COVID and

00:45:15.620 they don't affect

00:45:16.320 teachers.

00:45:17.160 None of this affects

00:45:17.900 any, most of the

00:45:18.960 stuff we're talking

00:45:19.740 about doesn't affect

00:45:20.780 anybody.

00:45:21.960 We're essentially out

00:45:23.120 of problems.

00:45:23.920 And whoever this

00:45:24.980 idiot writer is

00:45:26.180 writing about the

00:45:27.100 Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

00:45:28.540 she is clearly out

00:45:29.700 of problems.

00:45:30.740 And anyone who

00:45:31.540 agrees with her

00:45:32.540 writing are out of

00:45:34.720 problems as well.

00:45:36.320 People with real

00:45:37.080 problems aren't

00:45:38.140 interested in this.

00:45:39.460 And, and no, it

00:45:40.260 affects nobody.

00:45:41.300 They always do this

00:45:42.220 thing where like,

00:45:43.080 you know, it's

00:45:43.820 dangerous or it

00:45:45.020 says the wrong

00:45:45.520 message.

00:45:46.340 You know, I, I was

00:45:48.400 just reading a tweet

00:45:49.400 that some idiot sent

00:45:50.540 me an hour ago and

00:45:52.300 they were saying like,

00:45:53.200 you know, because

00:45:54.100 San Francisco is

00:45:54.960 changing all the

00:45:55.780 names of the

00:45:56.340 schools from Lincoln

00:45:57.420 to Washington.

00:45:58.200 And, you know, you

00:45:59.340 got to get, everything

00:46:00.120 must go.

00:46:01.240 This isn't, by the

00:46:02.240 way, this, this, this

00:46:04.360 is being sold under a

00:46:07.000 false pretense.

00:46:08.280 This like, we have to

00:46:09.440 go back and clear these

00:46:11.120 mistakes up, uh, from

00:46:13.100 the past because they're

00:46:14.340 racist or they, you

00:46:15.900 know, make people feel

00:46:17.160 in danger.

00:46:18.040 That's all bullshit.

00:46:19.720 This is just a purge.

00:46:21.180 They're just purging.

00:46:22.140 They're just getting

00:46:23.340 rid of everything that

00:46:24.860 was so that they can

00:46:26.520 reshape the now in the

00:46:28.720 future.

00:46:29.340 There's nothing to do

00:46:30.620 with Lincoln and

00:46:31.600 nothing to do with

00:46:32.440 Washington.

00:46:33.180 This is just to do with

00:46:34.400 getting rid of everything

00:46:35.700 that came before so that

00:46:38.260 they can now sculpt the

00:46:41.880 narrative and sculpt the

00:46:43.700 future.

00:46:44.640 But some idiot tweeted me

00:46:46.900 like, well, you don't

00:46:47.700 think it's a good idea to

00:46:48.660 get rid of those names?

00:46:49.580 It's like, what about

00:46:50.640 the nine-year-old who's

00:46:52.380 there, the ninth grader

00:46:54.080 who's in that group and

00:46:56.100 the fear they feel walking

00:46:57.520 into the school?

00:46:58.940 It's like, what are you

00:46:59.700 talking about?

00:47:01.300 Does anyone even did?

00:47:02.760 No, no one I know when

00:47:04.560 they were in junior high,

00:47:05.700 it even knew what the

00:47:07.180 stupid name was of their

00:47:08.460 school, what the person

00:47:09.400 did or what they're

00:47:10.280 involved with or anything.

00:47:12.260 Why do you feel fear?

00:47:14.140 If you feel fear when

00:47:15.340 you're walking into

00:47:15.920 middle school, it's for

00:47:16.740 root reasons having

00:47:17.600 nothing to do with the

00:47:18.380 name of your school.

00:47:19.500 We all felt it.

00:47:20.800 And for good reason, not

00:47:22.180 having to do with

00:47:23.280 Abraham Lincoln.

00:47:24.400 And also, the good

00:47:25.500 news is, children in

00:47:26.980 San Francisco, you don't

00:47:28.260 have to feel fear walking

00:47:29.660 into Lincoln Junior High

00:47:31.720 because it's been shut

00:47:33.180 down for a year because

00:47:34.720 your teachers won't go

00:47:35.660 back to work.

00:47:36.860 So good.

00:47:37.600 You feel fear at home.

00:47:39.340 You know how some

00:47:40.040 parents pass that on,

00:47:41.840 right?

00:47:42.040 They're hysterical and

00:47:43.080 they pass it on to their

00:47:43.780 kids.

00:47:44.620 It's like society is doing

00:47:45.980 that right now to

00:47:46.960 adults, whether it's

00:47:48.220 COVID or I mean, how

00:47:50.320 aren't you stunned by

00:47:51.880 the fact that it was

00:47:52.540 150 staffers who

00:47:55.620 wrote the letter trying

00:47:56.760 to kill this guy after

00:47:57.860 45 years at the

00:47:58.680 Times?

00:47:59.080 Forty five.

00:48:00.800 They wanted his scalp

00:48:03.120 and they got it.

00:48:05.420 They're they're

00:48:06.940 teaching the next

00:48:08.320 generation.

00:48:10.100 Let me posit this.

00:48:11.560 Think about it.

00:48:12.380 So, you know, 150

00:48:14.200 people wrote the

00:48:15.460 letter.

00:48:16.100 How many of those

00:48:16.800 150 were just scared

00:48:18.240 to be cast out?

00:48:19.640 They don't want to be

00:48:20.120 wished out into the

00:48:21.220 cornfield.

00:48:22.120 You know, this whole

00:48:22.880 thing is you can learn

00:48:25.460 everything you want to

00:48:26.140 learn by watching that

00:48:28.160 Twilight Zone episode

00:48:29.280 where that kid is going

00:48:30.320 to wish everyone out in

00:48:31.600 the cornfield.

00:48:32.400 It's ironic because it's

00:48:33.380 a kid wishing all the

00:48:34.640 adults out in the

00:48:36.120 cornfield.

00:48:36.860 So that 45 year old

00:48:38.740 staffer was the adult

00:48:40.340 and the kids wished

00:48:41.420 him out in the cornfield.

00:48:42.640 But when you're sitting

00:48:43.960 in your cubicle at the

00:48:45.640 Times and somebody

00:48:48.220 brings by the letter

00:48:49.660 to get this old timer

00:48:51.160 shit can and wants you

00:48:53.080 to sign it, what

00:48:54.400 percentage of people

00:48:55.300 really thought he

00:48:56.320 needed to go versus

00:48:57.380 didn't want to get

00:48:58.380 wished out in a

00:48:59.240 cornfield?

00:49:01.100 This is the dangerous

00:49:02.740 that that's why these

00:49:04.720 are dangerous times

00:49:05.820 because people are

00:49:06.980 cowards.

00:49:08.020 People look if if

00:49:10.100 if you got all if I

00:49:12.100 got all those 150

00:49:13.540 times staffers drunk

00:49:15.020 and ask them if they

00:49:15.760 really cared whether

00:49:17.160 what this guy said

00:49:18.460 when he said it or

00:49:19.420 whether he should be

00:49:20.300 dismissed, at least

00:49:21.740 144 of them would have

00:49:23.440 said they don't care.

00:49:24.800 Some of them may have

00:49:25.420 said McNeil's an asshole.

00:49:27.420 He's been an asshole

00:49:28.020 for a long time.

00:49:28.960 And that's the other

00:49:30.260 concern.

00:49:30.960 You can't use stuff

00:49:32.840 like this to get rid

00:49:34.240 of somebody who you

00:49:35.980 just don't like.

00:49:36.980 But, you know, it's

00:49:38.240 happening for sure.

00:49:39.680 It's happening, you

00:49:40.700 know, and it's like

00:49:41.420 with that when we had

00:49:42.640 due process, you

00:49:43.720 would you would make

00:49:45.080 sure that that the

00:49:47.340 target was not

00:49:48.760 pretextual.

00:49:49.820 You know, you would

00:49:50.180 make sure that there

00:49:51.120 had been an actual,

00:49:52.340 you know, serious

00:49:54.140 ethical misstep and

00:49:56.540 and like probe.

00:49:58.060 Is there actually just

00:49:59.200 an axe to grind about

00:50:00.120 this guy here?

00:50:00.640 Because we don't we

00:50:01.200 don't generally fire

00:50:02.000 people after 45 years

00:50:03.400 just for being, you

00:50:04.260 know, irascible.

00:50:06.720 Now all it takes is

00:50:08.420 a letter like this

00:50:09.680 and especially on an

00:50:11.080 issue like race.

00:50:11.800 I'm not again, I'm not

00:50:12.500 excusing him uttering

00:50:13.700 the word.

00:50:14.240 It's just anything

00:50:15.420 having to do with race.

00:50:16.780 And I mean, you that

00:50:17.840 Times letter is like,

00:50:19.320 please don't hurt us.

00:50:20.100 Please don't hurt us.

00:50:21.680 Everyone looks at all

00:50:22.460 this stuff like it's

00:50:23.480 somehow progress.

00:50:24.800 It's it's work.

00:50:26.040 This is regress.

00:50:27.180 This is not progress.

00:50:28.460 This isn't not this.

00:50:29.800 We're not evolving.

00:50:31.160 You know, I've been

00:50:31.960 saying for a long time,

00:50:33.400 like all the people

00:50:34.520 who are into like

00:50:35.200 the progressive movement.

00:50:36.460 It's like not all

00:50:37.740 progress is good.

00:50:39.380 Just because it's

00:50:40.040 different doesn't mean

00:50:41.200 it's good.

00:50:42.240 Just because it's

00:50:42.980 different than it was

00:50:43.940 10 years ago doesn't

00:50:45.260 mean it's progress.

00:50:47.000 A lot.

00:50:47.860 There's a big.

00:50:49.260 I think one of the

00:50:50.560 things we're getting

00:50:51.040 caught up in as a

00:50:52.140 nation of like,

00:50:53.400 look at us.

00:50:53.940 We're moving forward.

00:50:55.140 Like, look at us.

00:50:55.900 We're moving forward.

00:50:57.120 But are we moving

00:50:58.340 in the right direction?

00:51:00.020 And is this really

00:51:01.520 progress?

00:51:02.180 Is this a good thing?

00:51:03.800 So will you be happy?

00:51:05.800 Now you can rest easy

00:51:08.140 when your kids

00:51:08.940 enter the workforce.

00:51:10.620 Is that is that how

00:51:11.900 you should think now?

00:51:12.940 Oh, thank God.

00:51:14.220 Oh, I'm going to sleep

00:51:15.360 like a baby knowing

00:51:16.300 my young son who

00:51:17.300 likes to speak his mind

00:51:18.480 is entering the

00:51:19.720 workforce.

00:51:20.680 Right.

00:51:20.820 Because it's like we

00:51:21.340 realize that all of you

00:51:22.500 setting the rules are

00:51:23.240 absolutely perfect and

00:51:24.240 have never made a mistake

00:51:25.200 and would never make a

00:51:26.160 mistake.

00:51:26.640 But what what about

00:51:27.720 your kids?

00:51:28.700 Are you totally

00:51:29.640 confident they're never

00:51:30.920 going to misstep?

00:51:31.940 And you know what?

00:51:33.080 It's like nine times

00:51:33.780 out of ten that people

00:51:34.440 pushing this nonsense.

00:51:35.480 They don't have kids.

00:51:36.320 They're like young people

00:51:37.200 looking for a cause.

00:51:38.200 They feel like they're

00:51:38.840 they're part of the next

00:51:39.980 civil rights movement

00:51:41.600 and they're not.

00:51:43.900 But there's there is a

00:51:45.340 purging going on.

00:51:46.600 So not just people

00:51:47.760 getting fired or

00:51:48.640 canceled, but like in

00:51:50.300 the publishing world,

00:51:51.320 you know, you saw Josh

00:51:52.220 Hawley.

00:51:52.700 His book got canceled

00:51:53.780 after the Capitol

00:51:54.620 riot.

00:51:55.040 Now, Simon and

00:51:56.360 Schuster, according to

00:51:57.260 the latest report I

00:51:57.980 read, is saying they

00:51:59.960 are going to stop

00:52:00.480 publishing Candace

00:52:01.200 Owens.

00:52:01.800 Oh, really?

00:52:03.400 Yep.

00:52:03.940 The woman who like the

00:52:05.960 one conservative

00:52:07.220 editor at Hachette

00:52:09.540 has been fired.

00:52:12.340 She was the one

00:52:12.860 responsible for getting

00:52:13.760 Don Jr.'s book

00:52:14.560 published and she just

00:52:16.160 published Andy

00:52:16.820 Knows book.

00:52:18.420 She did like Corey

00:52:20.200 Lewandowski, who I

00:52:21.760 can't stand Corey

00:52:22.380 Lewandowski, but I

00:52:23.140 don't I wouldn't stop

00:52:24.280 him from publishing a

00:52:25.140 book.

00:52:25.940 Newt Gingrich, stuff

00:52:26.640 like.

00:52:26.860 So anyway, she just got

00:52:27.540 the official reasons

00:52:28.500 were some lame reasons,

00:52:29.860 but there's a big write

00:52:31.080 up on how it's

00:52:34.020 it's bullshit, right?

00:52:34.840 Like everybody knows

00:52:35.500 it's bullshit that that

00:52:36.440 has as soon as they

00:52:38.000 fired her were it was

00:52:39.000 reassuring employees.

00:52:40.060 They'd learn the

00:52:41.000 lessons of the Capitol

00:52:42.200 riot.

00:52:42.900 There'll be no more

00:52:43.560 hate speech, no

00:52:44.600 incitement, no false

00:52:45.720 narratives in the books

00:52:47.060 that they that they

00:52:48.280 publish.

00:52:49.240 And they're going to

00:52:50.020 shift back now, Adam,

00:52:51.060 to, quote, think tank

00:52:51.920 conservatives, think

00:52:53.240 tank conservative.

00:52:55.700 I mean, OK.

00:52:58.580 Yeah, they're think tank

00:52:59.640 conservatives like when

00:53:00.520 you watch CNN, when they

00:53:02.520 think they want to have

00:53:03.620 this sort of even

00:53:05.280 handed panel.

00:53:06.980 Whenever you hear

00:53:08.000 Republican strategists,

00:53:10.160 you always know, oh,

00:53:11.560 that's not a real

00:53:12.320 Republican.

00:53:12.740 They're just going to

00:53:13.280 get someone to get up

00:53:14.260 there and talk a bunch

00:53:15.040 of shit about

00:53:16.840 Trump or whoever.

00:53:18.120 But yeah, think tank

00:53:19.160 conservative.

00:53:20.740 I don't

00:53:21.280 I don't get

00:53:23.560 I don't get

00:53:25.120 why

00:53:25.600 people put up

00:53:27.660 with this.

00:53:28.400 I don't get why

00:53:29.300 more people don't

00:53:30.100 talk about it.

00:53:31.180 It's really insane.

00:53:32.920 I mean, we're getting

00:53:33.640 into publishing.

00:53:35.120 We were literally

00:53:35.880 getting into

00:53:36.840 we can't burn

00:53:38.780 their books anymore

00:53:39.680 because they don't

00:53:40.480 exist because

00:53:41.280 they won't publish

00:53:42.420 we're literally

00:53:44.660 we leapfrogged

00:53:45.980 past book burning

00:53:47.340 and that there's

00:53:48.260 no product to burn.

00:53:49.760 It's so true.

00:53:51.360 Well said.

00:53:52.500 That's exactly right.

00:53:54.080 No more tweets

00:53:54.820 to bash because

00:53:55.780 the the tweets

00:53:57.180 are not allowed

00:53:57.800 anymore.

00:53:58.120 No more

00:53:58.520 violent rhetoric

00:54:00.400 on Parler

00:54:01.000 because Parler's

00:54:02.580 gone.

00:54:03.160 And by the way,

00:54:03.560 just in case our

00:54:04.080 audience didn't hear

00:54:04.740 the guy who came

00:54:06.060 on the show,

00:54:06.660 John Mates,

00:54:07.260 the CEO of Parler,

00:54:08.060 was fired last

00:54:09.120 week.

00:54:10.040 Fired.

00:54:11.540 And we're trying

00:54:12.340 to figure out

00:54:12.820 exactly what the

00:54:13.440 story was.

00:54:14.120 Reports of that.

00:54:15.300 Coming up in one

00:54:15.960 minute, I'm going to

00:54:16.740 ask Adam about the

00:54:17.580 ladies of The View

00:54:18.460 ganging up on Van

00:54:19.700 Jones, who was in

00:54:21.100 Adam's movie,

00:54:22.180 No Safe Spaces,

00:54:23.000 which everyone

00:54:23.520 should go see.

00:54:24.380 It's amazing.

00:54:25.400 And we're going to

00:54:26.040 have a little chat

00:54:26.640 about AOC and

00:54:28.400 whether she's a

00:54:29.280 force for good.

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00:55:49.360 But first, I'm going

00:55:50.380 to bring you a feature

00:55:51.000 we call Real Talk where

00:55:52.860 we just sort of kick

00:55:54.000 around something that's

00:55:54.780 on my mind or want to

00:55:56.080 talk about something in

00:55:56.680 the news or that's not

00:55:57.400 in the news.

00:55:58.380 And today, it's a story

00:55:59.620 about my children.

00:56:01.720 We woke up in the

00:56:03.120 morning.

00:56:04.220 I went out to the

00:56:05.220 coffee maker and it

00:56:08.340 was preset.

00:56:09.040 It was like made.

00:56:09.780 You know, the grounds

00:56:10.260 were in there.

00:56:10.720 By the way, it was

00:56:11.380 black rifle coffee.

00:56:12.840 And all I had to do

00:56:14.420 was hit brew, right?

00:56:15.300 So I just figured Doug

00:56:16.240 had done it.

00:56:17.120 And I'm like, oh,

00:56:18.000 thanks, babe.

00:56:18.420 And he's like, oh,

00:56:18.860 I didn't do it.

00:56:19.980 I'm like, what do you

00:56:20.440 mean?

00:56:20.580 I didn't do it.

00:56:21.800 And Yardley, our

00:56:23.460 nine-year-old, was

00:56:24.340 like, I did it.

00:56:26.120 My nine-year-old

00:56:27.140 preset my coffee

00:56:28.080 maker.

00:56:28.820 I was like, goals.

00:56:32.740 Hashtag goals.

00:56:34.280 Accomplished.

00:56:35.220 And I sent out a tweet

00:56:36.440 the other day saying,

00:56:37.240 you know, I pretty much

00:56:38.380 feel that all my

00:56:38.940 parenting goals have

00:56:39.740 been accomplished now.

00:56:40.600 Like, I'm good.

00:56:41.320 Once your nine-year-old

00:56:42.240 just on her own makes

00:56:43.340 her morning coffee for

00:56:44.580 you, I think you can

00:56:45.340 just sit back and say,

00:56:46.500 like, nailed it.

00:56:47.360 So anyway, you know

00:56:50.400 how it is, parents.

00:56:51.140 You don't get days like

00:56:51.840 that every day.

00:56:52.720 You get, sometimes you

00:56:53.540 get too many of the

00:56:54.240 other kinds of days.

00:56:55.420 But that was a good

00:56:56.100 one.

00:56:56.600 And I just thought I'd

00:56:58.080 share it.

00:56:58.900 And now, back to Adam.

00:57:04.700 Speaking of

00:57:05.240 intolerance, Van Jones

00:57:06.340 was on The View.

00:57:07.420 And Van Jones, to me,

00:57:08.580 is a really, if I were

00:57:09.780 running CNN, I would,

00:57:12.120 well, I'd fire Chris

00:57:12.920 Cuomo and I'd fire Don

00:57:14.180 Lemon for sure.

00:57:14.900 Like, yesterday, they

00:57:15.880 would definitely be

00:57:16.380 fired.

00:57:17.580 But I'd give Van Jones

00:57:18.820 a show in primetime

00:57:20.720 immediately.

00:57:22.220 So Van Jones used to

00:57:23.680 be a communist, right?

00:57:25.220 He's the one that

00:57:26.380 Glenn Beck, I think,

00:57:28.460 regrettably, got fired

00:57:29.920 from the Obama

00:57:30.820 administration.

00:57:31.640 He was going to be,

00:57:32.100 like, his green energy

00:57:33.060 czar.

00:57:33.560 So I can't remember.

00:57:34.220 It was so long ago now.

00:57:35.020 But he was hard, hard

00:57:36.540 left.

00:57:37.580 And I don't think he's

00:57:38.720 there anymore.

00:57:39.240 But he's a black man

00:57:41.660 who grew up in Tennessee.

00:57:43.580 And I think he has made

00:57:45.300 a lifelong effort

00:57:46.520 to understand people

00:57:48.380 who are not like he is

00:57:49.780 and to reach out

00:57:51.080 across the aisle

00:57:52.120 to people who are

00:57:52.920 not like he is.

00:57:53.620 He actually just came out

00:57:54.380 with this effort

00:57:55.280 with Meghan McCain

00:57:56.120 to sort of, it's like,

00:57:57.080 I can't remember

00:57:57.400 what they're calling.

00:57:57.920 It's like, bridge the divide.

00:57:58.980 And they're trying to

00:57:59.700 sort of get people to

00:58:00.400 unite, which, you know,

00:58:01.380 I don't know how

00:58:01.820 that's going to go.

00:58:02.400 But I love Van Jones.

00:58:04.300 I have interviewed

00:58:05.300 Van Jones before.

00:58:06.400 And also Van Jones

00:58:07.880 was in my

00:58:08.800 No Safe Spaces movie.

00:58:10.880 Oh, that's right.

00:58:11.460 With Dennis Prager

00:58:12.200 as well.

00:58:13.180 That's right.

00:58:13.640 So I know Van Jones

00:58:14.820 a bit.

00:58:15.460 And yes, he's a sensible

00:58:17.400 guy for the most part.

00:58:19.900 Although he was on

00:58:20.720 Marr two weeks ago

00:58:21.980 and we were talking

00:58:22.760 about recalling

00:58:23.860 Gavin Newsom.

00:58:24.860 He just shouted out

00:58:25.780 that's a QAnon

00:58:26.780 conspiracy thing.

00:58:29.060 And it's like,

00:58:29.520 no, it's not.

00:58:30.800 He's a horrible governor.

00:58:32.180 We're trying to recall him.

00:58:33.760 Well, it's got over

00:58:34.420 1.3 million signatures.

00:58:35.660 And they only need 1.5.

00:58:38.600 I know.

00:58:39.200 I don't know why Van Jones

00:58:40.280 yelled out QAnon

00:58:41.320 conspiracy.

00:58:42.040 I think the new deal

00:58:43.260 with people on the left

00:58:44.320 is anything you disagree

00:58:45.400 with, you just yell

00:58:46.340 QAnon conspiracy.

00:58:48.540 Oh, I'm going to do that.

00:58:49.640 That's actually pretty good.

00:58:50.880 I like that.

00:58:51.460 Thank you for the tip.

00:58:52.540 Everybody's got

00:58:53.040 political disagreements.

00:58:53.900 As Van Jones

00:58:54.520 once said to me

00:58:55.880 privately,

00:58:56.660 because we're friends,

00:58:57.440 something like,

00:58:58.300 let's disagree 23 hours

00:58:59.900 of the day.

00:59:00.820 And I like that, right?

00:59:01.720 Like, let's have a beer

00:59:02.940 the other hour.

00:59:03.720 Let's be cool.

00:59:04.540 Let's see each other's

00:59:05.300 humanity.

00:59:06.440 Anyway, my point is

00:59:07.340 he goes on The View.

00:59:09.020 Now, as I say,

00:59:09.800 he's doing this thing,

00:59:10.780 this effort,

00:59:11.660 bipartisanship,

00:59:12.620 whatever,

00:59:13.100 with Meghan McCain,

00:59:14.260 who's a co-host of The View.

00:59:16.040 So he goes over there

00:59:16.720 to talk about it.

00:59:17.520 Right.

00:59:17.940 Anna Navarro.

00:59:19.080 This is another one

00:59:19.780 of those fake Republicans

00:59:20.680 like Nicole Wallace.

00:59:21.660 is so hateful now.

00:59:23.920 And they killed Van Jones.

00:59:26.980 We have a clip.

00:59:28.120 Take a listen.

00:59:28.740 All of a sudden,

00:59:29.760 you show up

00:59:30.740 working with

00:59:32.240 Nepotism Barbie

00:59:33.360 and Nepotism Ken.

00:59:34.920 And you work

00:59:35.360 and showing up,

00:59:36.380 you know,

00:59:36.960 in pictures with Eric Trump

00:59:38.500 and with Candace Owens.

00:59:39.920 And so I think

00:59:40.440 there's people who wonder,

00:59:41.940 and I'm one of them,

00:59:43.380 how did that evolution happen?

00:59:45.740 There's no evolution.

00:59:47.680 When Obama was in office,

00:59:49.920 I was working

00:59:50.480 with Newt Gingrich.

00:59:51.540 I was working

00:59:52.160 with Republicans then

00:59:53.260 to get people out of prison.

00:59:55.200 There are those

00:59:55.840 who really accuse you

00:59:56.780 of being a political opportunist,

00:59:58.540 a chameleon,

00:59:59.320 so to speak,

00:59:59.920 who provided a racial cover

01:00:01.620 for a former disgraced,

01:00:03.240 twice impeached

01:00:04.060 President Trump.

01:00:04.960 People in the black community

01:00:06.520 don't trust you anymore.

01:00:08.360 What is your response?

01:00:10.280 Well, A,

01:00:11.020 I don't think that that's true.

01:00:13.100 Van, take a nap.

01:00:14.780 We'll be right back.

01:00:15.480 The point that ladies

01:00:20.700 of The View

01:00:21.160 were trying to make is

01:00:22.160 how dare you

01:00:23.680 reach across the aisle

01:00:25.160 and work with anybody

01:00:26.940 in that Trump White House,

01:00:28.340 even if it means

01:00:29.080 getting people of color

01:00:30.180 out of jail early.

01:00:32.360 Screw you, Van Jones,

01:00:34.020 because you worked with,

01:00:35.180 quote,

01:00:35.500 nepotism Barbie and Ken.

01:00:37.740 Right.

01:00:38.420 Which basically shows

01:00:40.100 they're not interested

01:00:41.700 in whatever it is

01:00:42.900 they say they're interested in.

01:00:44.720 You know what I mean?

01:00:45.320 You know,

01:00:46.120 whatever their deal is.

01:00:48.420 It's kind of like

01:00:49.140 Black Lives Matter.

01:00:50.400 Like,

01:00:50.560 they're not really interested

01:00:51.960 in what they say

01:00:54.360 they're interested in.

01:00:55.620 And neither is The View.

01:00:57.280 You know,

01:00:57.540 they're always talking

01:00:58.400 about unity

01:00:59.320 and uniting

01:01:00.460 the country

01:01:01.540 and reaching

01:01:02.540 across the aisle

01:01:03.680 and civility

01:01:05.340 and all.

01:01:05.720 they're interested in

01:01:07.340 they're interested

01:01:08.660 in their terms

01:01:09.840 100%.

01:01:11.480 Their idea of unity

01:01:13.180 is 100%

01:01:14.440 their way

01:01:15.240 or the highway.

01:01:16.640 Yep.

01:01:17.080 They're all so

01:01:17.960 thin-skinned.

01:01:20.080 You know what I mean?

01:01:20.660 Like,

01:01:21.200 hey,

01:01:22.160 Your Highness,

01:01:23.280 is anyone allowed

01:01:24.520 to disagree

01:01:25.280 with the way you think?

01:01:27.360 I mean,

01:01:27.640 you have to think

01:01:28.260 about all these people.

01:01:29.700 First off,

01:01:30.120 they're intellectually

01:01:31.040 idiots,

01:01:31.980 most of them.

01:01:32.760 And the rules are

01:01:34.480 all of society

01:01:35.960 must just join in

01:01:37.380 and lockstep behind them

01:01:38.660 and think exactly

01:01:39.600 how they think.

01:01:40.580 Otherwise,

01:01:41.140 they need to be cast,

01:01:42.460 you know,

01:01:42.660 they need to be banished

01:01:43.800 and cast out

01:01:45.100 into the cornfield.

01:01:46.660 It's complete

01:01:47.860 and utter narcissism.

01:01:50.080 You know,

01:01:50.460 or,

01:01:51.080 you know,

01:01:51.620 you must be,

01:01:53.880 Fox must be canceled

01:01:55.400 because they disagree

01:01:56.780 with us.

01:01:58.260 I mean,

01:01:58.480 just think about that.

01:02:00.040 Think about the crazed

01:02:01.380 narcissism

01:02:02.500 of saying

01:02:03.800 you disagree

01:02:05.320 with me

01:02:06.200 so you're bad

01:02:07.640 and you must

01:02:08.660 not exist.

01:02:10.360 Yep.

01:02:11.200 And it's working.

01:02:12.500 That's what's really scary

01:02:13.500 is it's,

01:02:14.900 they're not going

01:02:15.340 to get rid of Fox.

01:02:16.140 That's not happening.

01:02:16.900 But,

01:02:17.620 you know,

01:02:17.800 these little,

01:02:19.060 these,

01:02:19.580 it's death by a thousand cuts,

01:02:21.080 right?

01:02:21.340 Like the one minute

01:02:22.020 Hachette goes

01:02:22.920 and something like

01:02:25.140 600 publishing staffers

01:02:26.880 wrote a letter

01:02:27.660 last month saying

01:02:28.460 there'll be no books

01:02:29.760 by anybody

01:02:31.080 from the Trump administration

01:02:32.700 who,

01:02:33.160 or who supported

01:02:34.140 the violence

01:02:34.840 at the Capitol,

01:02:35.520 which really means

01:02:36.180 didn't totally accept

01:02:38.100 the election result

01:02:39.220 as non-fraudulent.

01:02:40.340 It happens just here,

01:02:42.200 there,

01:02:42.860 everywhere.

01:02:43.660 Now,

01:02:44.080 Van Jones tries

01:02:45.060 to reach across the aisle,

01:02:46.720 get criminal justice reform done,

01:02:48.060 something the left

01:02:48.580 would normally be cheering for.

01:02:49.980 No,

01:02:50.380 he gets shamed for it

01:02:51.460 on The View.

01:02:52.220 He gets shamed

01:02:52.780 for taking a picture

01:02:53.580 with Candace Owens

01:02:54.340 with whom he probably agrees

01:02:55.920 on absolutely nothing,

01:02:57.240 absolutely nothing.

01:02:58.240 But just being in a picture

01:02:59.340 with her

01:02:59.800 is enough for them

01:03:01.400 to give him a hard time.

01:03:03.200 And it doesn't matter

01:03:03.760 that Van himself

01:03:04.540 is black,

01:03:05.800 liberal,

01:03:06.620 hard left liberal,

01:03:07.740 you know,

01:03:08.020 for most of his history.

01:03:09.340 No,

01:03:10.240 doesn't matter.

01:03:10.940 You got to toe the line,

01:03:11.800 you got to toe it

01:03:12.200 every second of every day

01:03:13.220 or you're out.

01:03:15.320 I think it's one of the reasons

01:03:16.500 why, Adam,

01:03:16.900 people look at like

01:03:17.760 even the impeachment

01:03:18.800 happening this week

01:03:19.900 and they're like,

01:03:20.800 we're over you

01:03:21.860 and your hysterical

01:03:22.940 overreactions

01:03:23.820 to everything.

01:03:25.080 They talk,

01:03:25.720 I'm not defending

01:03:26.420 the Capitol Hill riot

01:03:27.420 at all,

01:03:28.820 but they talk about it

01:03:30.340 like it was like

01:03:32.040 another 1776

01:03:33.700 all-out

01:03:34.920 revolutionary war.

01:03:37.160 And it's not to say

01:03:38.280 it wasn't bad.

01:03:39.220 It was bad.

01:03:40.340 But, you know,

01:03:41.680 the difference in rhetoric

01:03:42.860 when they talk about

01:03:43.580 the riots we've seen

01:03:44.420 over this year

01:03:45.140 versus what we saw

01:03:45.940 that day

01:03:46.480 is obvious to anybody.

01:03:48.840 Oh, my God.

01:03:49.920 Did you hear

01:03:50.480 AOC's tearful?

01:03:52.780 And by the way,

01:03:53.640 the deuce

01:03:54.120 just picks it up

01:03:54.940 and runs with it.

01:03:56.180 Harrowing experience,

01:03:57.480 you know,

01:03:57.900 this thing where,

01:03:59.320 I mean,

01:03:59.900 the white cop,

01:04:02.040 she couldn't trust him.

01:04:03.580 I mean,

01:04:03.860 it's insane.

01:04:05.240 It's racist.

01:04:06.020 We're in a completely different,

01:04:08.180 it's racist.

01:04:08.980 Of course it's racist.

01:04:09.920 Well, by the way,

01:04:11.420 everything those people do

01:04:13.540 essentially

01:04:14.180 while they're calling

01:04:15.200 everyone else a racist

01:04:16.320 is in fact racist.

01:04:18.260 Yep.

01:04:20.100 Of course,

01:04:21.520 that's who they are.

01:04:22.780 And this is,

01:04:25.040 it is a new era

01:04:27.420 we're in

01:04:28.300 and it's pretty damn insane

01:04:31.240 that we have people

01:04:33.580 like AOC

01:04:34.240 who are so fear-based

01:04:36.100 and so panic-based.

01:04:38.140 I mean,

01:04:38.360 these are our leaders.

01:04:40.120 She's a leader.

01:04:41.480 Just telling her,

01:04:42.680 she was telling everyone

01:04:43.600 she was locked herself

01:04:44.820 in the bathroom

01:04:45.660 and was scared to come out

01:04:47.480 and fearful of her life.

01:04:49.720 Like,

01:04:50.280 that's a leader?

01:04:52.200 She wasn't even

01:04:53.180 in the main building?

01:04:54.700 No,

01:04:55.100 she wasn't even

01:04:55.680 in the main building.

01:04:57.080 Meanwhile,

01:04:57.520 can I just point out,

01:04:58.280 we had Steve Scalise

01:04:59.200 on the show

01:04:59.840 who actually took a bullet

01:05:01.560 on a baseball field

01:05:03.260 a couple of years ago

01:05:04.200 by some lunatic

01:05:05.320 Bernie Sanders supporter

01:05:06.620 and he was cool

01:05:09.160 and he was cool

01:05:09.180 as a cucumber.

01:05:10.220 You know,

01:05:10.400 it wasn't good.

01:05:11.380 We got to deal with it

01:05:12.380 but, you know,

01:05:13.300 we got to lower the temperature

01:05:14.300 but if anybody had the right

01:05:16.200 to go out there

01:05:16.700 and play the victim,

01:05:17.780 right,

01:05:18.420 it was him.

01:05:19.980 I just,

01:05:20.440 for me,

01:05:21.360 AOC constantly runs

01:05:23.000 to playing the victim.

01:05:24.360 I make no comments

01:05:26.080 on her revelation

01:05:27.340 that she was

01:05:28.120 the sexual violence victim.

01:05:30.020 I have only empathy

01:05:31.520 for her on that

01:05:32.300 but the thing is

01:05:33.720 she's always

01:05:35.360 running to victimhood

01:05:36.740 and it's just

01:05:37.680 a massive turnoff

01:05:38.940 so I'm exempting

01:05:41.600 that particular thing

01:05:43.020 but no matter

01:05:44.440 what happens

01:05:45.060 to AOC,

01:05:46.140 she overplays it.

01:05:47.200 Like,

01:05:47.320 Ted Cruz did not

01:05:48.200 try to have her murdered

01:05:49.320 and the more

01:05:50.020 she engages

01:05:50.600 in that nonsense,

01:05:52.200 the more it

01:05:52.860 ramps up the rhetoric

01:05:54.560 rather than tones it down

01:05:55.840 which is what smart people

01:05:56.760 like Scalise

01:05:57.260 are calling for

01:05:57.900 and makes you look

01:05:59.620 at her as

01:06:00.160 you're weak

01:06:01.380 and you're exploiting

01:06:02.840 how divided

01:06:03.400 the country is

01:06:04.040 right now.

01:06:04.960 Yes.

01:06:05.600 A,

01:06:05.900 you make yourself

01:06:06.600 look like

01:06:07.340 whatever the opposite

01:06:08.320 is of a leader,

01:06:09.940 you are displaying

01:06:11.500 all the qualities

01:06:12.360 of a non-leader

01:06:13.520 and people are

01:06:15.740 agitated enough

01:06:17.020 and all you're doing,

01:06:18.500 and by the way,

01:06:19.260 it's all narcissism.

01:06:20.960 You're drawing

01:06:21.920 attention

01:06:23.020 and focus

01:06:23.700 on yourself.

01:06:25.080 This is,

01:06:26.240 as far as

01:06:27.240 AOC's experience

01:06:29.180 of this whole thing,

01:06:30.700 this should be

01:06:32.360 a non-starter.

01:06:33.600 It really,

01:06:34.140 it really should be.

01:06:35.820 I mean,

01:06:36.480 she wasn't even

01:06:37.340 in the same facility.

01:06:39.280 So,

01:06:39.860 for you,

01:06:40.940 you're allowed,

01:06:41.620 AOC's allowed

01:06:42.280 to have opinions

01:06:43.280 on it,

01:06:43.940 but to feel like

01:06:44.960 she was in fear

01:06:46.660 of her life

01:06:47.240 and to do

01:06:47.600 the whole fearful thing

01:06:48.600 and essentially

01:06:49.280 just,

01:06:49.920 it just,

01:06:50.400 essentially,

01:06:51.140 she's just a,

01:06:51.860 she's an out-of-control

01:06:53.280 narcissist.

01:06:54.360 That's all this.

01:06:55.580 I mean,

01:06:55.840 it's pure and simple.

01:06:57.240 No one historically

01:06:58.520 would talk about

01:06:59.400 themselves

01:06:59.960 in such a way.

01:07:01.660 And for some reason,

01:07:03.560 the victimhood thing

01:07:05.700 has become

01:07:07.040 the leader

01:07:08.780 in the clubhouse

01:07:09.740 when it comes

01:07:10.380 to narcissism,

01:07:11.780 whereas in the past,

01:07:13.580 it was about,

01:07:14.840 well,

01:07:15.440 here's how many medals

01:07:17.140 I've won

01:07:17.800 and here's the dragons

01:07:19.100 I've slayed.

01:07:19.980 You know,

01:07:20.200 now it's here,

01:07:21.080 who was the most scared?

01:07:23.080 Whoever was the most scared

01:07:24.260 is going to get

01:07:24.840 the most kudos?

01:07:26.420 I don't know.

01:07:27.120 Is that what you want

01:07:27.900 in a leader?

01:07:28.760 Like,

01:07:28.960 what if there was a war?

01:07:30.700 The general,

01:07:31.860 who was the most frightened,

01:07:33.260 he would be the most

01:07:33.980 highly decorated?

01:07:36.840 Because that's where we're at.

01:07:38.040 True.

01:07:40.220 All right,

01:07:40.680 let me shift gears

01:07:41.680 with you

01:07:42.020 and throw you

01:07:42.720 something out of left field

01:07:44.240 because I just kind of

01:07:45.440 wanted to ask

01:07:46.280 for your take

01:07:47.140 on Marilyn Manson.

01:07:50.180 Now,

01:07:50.640 I haven't closely

01:07:51.740 followed the career

01:07:52.540 of Marilyn Manson

01:07:53.280 other than the guy

01:07:53.940 looks absolutely

01:07:54.860 freaking bizarre

01:07:55.660 and

01:07:56.800 was always like

01:07:58.820 with these beautiful women

01:07:59.780 and I was always like,

01:08:00.520 how is that possible?

01:08:01.440 He's so disgusting.

01:08:02.960 How is he getting

01:08:03.480 all these beautiful,

01:08:04.700 beautiful women

01:08:05.200 to be by,

01:08:05.680 but you know,

01:08:06.140 he's a rock star

01:08:06.800 so it happens

01:08:07.480 and now it turns out

01:08:09.020 he's been accused

01:08:09.600 by more than nine women

01:08:11.180 or nine,

01:08:11.860 at least nine women

01:08:12.780 of like very dark harassment,

01:08:16.680 sexual violence,

01:08:18.460 torture.

01:08:19.780 He denies it all

01:08:20.860 but I,

01:08:21.400 you know,

01:08:21.600 you can't help but look

01:08:22.500 at the guy

01:08:22.840 and be like,

01:08:23.520 I mean,

01:08:24.640 it makes some sense.

01:08:26.220 I don't know.

01:08:26.700 What,

01:08:26.980 do you have any thoughts

01:08:27.600 on it?

01:08:29.000 I know him a little bit.

01:08:31.040 you know,

01:08:33.420 he's a kind of troubled guy.

01:08:36.700 There's probably

01:08:37.480 some substance,

01:08:39.120 you know,

01:08:39.800 sprinkled in there.

01:08:42.020 He,

01:08:42.980 you know,

01:08:43.820 he probably

01:08:45.460 has these relationships

01:08:47.680 and then gets into

01:08:48.940 this role-playing stuff

01:08:50.520 and then,

01:08:52.060 you know,

01:08:52.640 if you do the role-playing

01:08:54.080 right,

01:08:54.820 I guess the lines

01:08:55.840 get a little blurry,

01:08:57.780 you know,

01:08:58.560 and then you start,

01:08:59.840 you know,

01:09:00.640 once you start

01:09:01.520 getting into the substance

01:09:03.140 and you start getting

01:09:04.260 into the role-playing,

01:09:05.960 then who the hell knows

01:09:08.060 what version of everything

01:09:09.600 is,

01:09:10.040 is,

01:09:10.380 is reality

01:09:11.440 versus,

01:09:12.720 you know,

01:09:14.360 his version of it is,

01:09:16.040 is everything's consensual,

01:09:17.500 it's role-playing,

01:09:18.540 their version of it is,

01:09:21.000 it was beyond role-playing.

01:09:23.380 I don't know how you prove that,

01:09:25.800 you know,

01:09:26.240 I mean,

01:09:26.460 once you've,

01:09:27.060 once you've both,

01:09:28.900 once both,

01:09:29.840 parties have consented

01:09:31.600 to the role-playing,

01:09:34.000 now it gets

01:09:35.240 kind of

01:09:36.360 blurry

01:09:38.620 as to like

01:09:39.900 where that line

01:09:41.660 was crossed,

01:09:42.900 you know what I'm saying?

01:09:44.300 When you had nine women

01:09:45.560 coming out

01:09:46.320 accusing you,

01:09:47.020 you're doing the role-playing

01:09:48.000 wrong.

01:09:48.780 You've,

01:09:49.500 you,

01:09:49.780 your acting career is over.

01:09:51.300 Stick to singing,

01:09:52.480 you're gonna have to find

01:09:53.440 some other way

01:09:54.280 of approaching your sex life

01:09:55.480 because clearly

01:09:56.160 what you're doing

01:09:56.780 ain't working.

01:09:57.680 or you're so good

01:09:59.540 at it

01:10:00.100 that you're

01:10:01.660 that deep

01:10:02.340 into it.

01:10:03.620 Oh,

01:10:04.120 he was,

01:10:04.700 he was method?

01:10:05.940 That's not gonna fly.

01:10:07.060 Yeah,

01:10:07.340 he's gone whole method.

01:10:08.820 Yeah,

01:10:09.180 I agree.

01:10:09.820 I'm not defending him.

01:10:10.960 I'm just,

01:10:11.360 that's my speculation.

01:10:13.020 No,

01:10:13.280 I was just curious.

01:10:13.920 I thought,

01:10:14.420 by the way,

01:10:15.080 when you say you know him a bit,

01:10:16.100 have you seen him

01:10:16.600 without the makeup?

01:10:17.240 Like when you see

01:10:17.860 Marilyn Manson

01:10:18.600 in real life,

01:10:19.540 does he wear the makeup?

01:10:21.100 No,

01:10:21.440 when you see him

01:10:22.140 in real life,

01:10:23.260 he looks like

01:10:24.020 Ted McGinley Jr.

01:10:25.880 from The Love Boat

01:10:27.500 and Nerds movie.

01:10:28.360 What are you,

01:10:28.740 that guy was good looking.

01:10:30.460 Ted McGinley Jr.

01:10:31.380 was a handsome man.

01:10:33.420 Okay,

01:10:33.980 I got confused for a second there.

01:10:35.560 I'm making a joke.

01:10:37.340 I picked the whitest,

01:10:38.800 blondest,

01:10:39.340 best looking guy

01:10:40.380 from the 90s

01:10:41.900 that I could think of.

01:10:44.080 Meanwhile,

01:10:44.840 not like,

01:10:45.400 most of the audience here

01:10:46.660 I think is pretty young

01:10:47.840 and probably none of them

01:10:48.980 got what the hell

01:10:49.700 you just referenced.

01:10:50.980 Although I'm old.

01:10:52.720 Google Ted McGinley Jr.

01:10:56.140 And,

01:10:56.660 and also,

01:10:58.020 we should start

01:10:59.240 an internet rumor

01:11:01.440 that he's your biological brother.

01:11:04.100 Because,

01:11:05.060 if Megyn Kelly

01:11:06.700 has a brother out there,

01:11:09.940 a male counterpart,

01:11:12.260 a doppelganger,

01:11:13.620 I think Ted

01:11:15.280 would be

01:11:16.040 the best we could do

01:11:17.620 in that department.

01:11:18.600 And that's a compliment

01:11:19.500 to you and Ted.

01:11:21.460 I'm flattered.

01:11:22.420 I mean,

01:11:22.800 thank you for that.

01:11:24.040 I do have a brother.

01:11:25.260 He's not a,

01:11:26.140 I would say his personality

01:11:27.320 is close to a doppelganger.

01:11:30.060 And by the way,

01:11:31.000 not for nothing,

01:11:31.540 but I actually just went down

01:11:32.600 and saw him in Georgia

01:11:33.640 because his son got married.

01:11:35.520 And that's another,

01:11:36.220 unlike California,

01:11:37.940 people went to the wedding.

01:11:39.400 People were out on the streets.

01:11:40.740 People were living their lives.

01:11:41.880 It's a southern state,

01:11:42.740 right?

01:11:42.900 It's a red state

01:11:43.600 where like people just,

01:11:44.660 I think they see risk differently.

01:11:46.360 We went to the wedding.

01:11:47.780 And guess what?

01:11:48.920 It wasn't a super spreader event.

01:11:50.320 As far as we know,

01:11:50.940 my brother's been checking in.

01:11:52.040 Nobody got COVID.

01:11:53.000 We didn't get COVID.

01:11:53.900 We brought our kids.

01:11:54.960 People were responsible.

01:11:56.120 It all worked out in the end.

01:11:59.960 All right,

01:12:00.360 which leads me,

01:12:01.220 leads me to my last question.

01:12:02.600 So California

01:12:03.340 is not a red state.

01:12:06.220 And

01:12:06.600 we've had a lot of,

01:12:09.480 we asked our listeners

01:12:10.460 to write in

01:12:10.960 if they had any questions for you.

01:12:11.920 And the one question

01:12:12.500 we kept getting over and over is,

01:12:13.820 is Adam going to leave California?

01:12:15.460 So what's the answer?

01:12:17.400 Well,

01:12:17.900 you know,

01:12:19.120 I'm in Malibu right now

01:12:21.120 and it's so damn beautiful.

01:12:23.260 I'm just staring at the ocean.

01:12:25.900 But yes,

01:12:27.280 well,

01:12:28.160 look,

01:12:28.600 here's,

01:12:29.140 here's the deal.

01:12:29.940 We'll either have to have

01:12:31.600 a Giuliani

01:12:32.940 type referendum

01:12:34.200 to California

01:12:35.440 and just completely

01:12:36.620 shake the place up.

01:12:39.200 Or

01:12:39.720 people

01:12:40.940 who have jobs

01:12:42.520 and pay taxes

01:12:43.520 and want to raise their kids

01:12:44.780 are going to have to leave.

01:12:46.440 I mean,

01:12:46.860 it'll,

01:12:47.160 it'll be one or the other.

01:12:48.200 So

01:12:48.400 my kids are

01:12:49.900 in the ninth grade.

01:12:51.380 They've got a few more years.

01:12:53.120 Well,

01:12:53.380 they're not in the ninth grade.

01:12:54.800 They're sort of

01:12:55.280 next to the ninth grade

01:12:56.700 because

01:12:57.080 they're,

01:12:58.520 they're not allowed

01:12:59.320 to go to school

01:13:00.060 in California.

01:13:00.760 But

01:13:01.180 they're,

01:13:03.280 they will

01:13:04.720 graduate high school

01:13:06.660 and then

01:13:07.580 we will leave

01:13:09.300 unless

01:13:10.540 something happens.

01:13:12.760 I mean,

01:13:13.060 maybe there'll be

01:13:13.680 some kind of turnaround.

01:13:14.980 Maybe there'll be

01:13:15.520 some sort of renaissance

01:13:16.720 or awakening.

01:13:19.140 Maybe we'll get somebody,

01:13:21.460 you know,

01:13:21.780 maybe we'll get rid of Newsom

01:13:23.080 and get somebody,

01:13:24.260 Falconer,

01:13:25.200 I think,

01:13:25.680 in from San Diego.

01:13:27.220 Like someone who wants to run

01:13:28.580 the state

01:13:30.220 like it's a business

01:13:31.320 and make it better,

01:13:33.480 make a better climate

01:13:34.440 and,

01:13:35.400 you know,

01:13:35.680 focus on homelessness

01:13:37.040 and traffic

01:13:37.940 and all the stuff

01:13:38.800 that plagues it

01:13:39.500 and then maybe I'll stack.

01:13:40.940 But it's not looking like it.

01:13:42.420 Is Falconer attractive?

01:13:44.100 He's not Ted McGinley attractive,

01:13:46.820 if that's what you're talking about.

01:13:48.380 Well,

01:13:48.620 you know,

01:13:48.820 my husband,

01:13:49.320 Doug,

01:13:49.480 has this whole theory

01:13:50.220 about how like

01:13:50.800 we really need

01:13:51.500 unattractive politicians

01:13:52.640 and Supreme Court justices

01:13:53.980 because otherwise

01:13:54.800 they're really,

01:13:55.840 they start getting drunk

01:13:56.540 on their own wine.

01:13:57.680 They need the approval

01:13:58.640 of like sort of

01:13:59.820 the Georgetown cocktail parties

01:14:01.360 or in your case,

01:14:02.640 the San Francisco cocktail parties

01:14:04.440 and that's a bad thing.

01:14:05.400 We need people

01:14:05.920 who are like,

01:14:06.540 I'm a little grizzly.

01:14:08.100 I'm fine with it.

01:14:09.080 I'll get ahead

01:14:09.660 based on my character

01:14:10.620 and personality.

01:14:12.060 Yeah.

01:14:12.520 I got to see

01:14:13.420 if Falconer

01:14:13.940 looks like.

01:14:15.400 I don't,

01:14:15.960 I don't think

01:14:16.840 he's going to win

01:14:17.500 any bathing suit competition.

01:14:19.580 So.

01:14:20.340 Perfect.

01:14:21.360 Well,

01:14:21.940 I like to think,

01:14:23.020 you know,

01:14:23.680 this is one of my own

01:14:24.740 secrets to success

01:14:26.320 in my life

01:14:26.800 is that

01:14:27.100 I wound up,

01:14:28.880 you know,

01:14:29.420 okay,

01:14:29.860 fine.

01:14:30.180 It's not fishing

01:14:31.560 for compliments.

01:14:32.180 I wound up

01:14:32.780 relatively attractive,

01:14:34.060 but I was not

01:14:35.400 an attractive child

01:14:36.560 and that was important

01:14:38.100 to my success in life.

01:14:40.000 You got to get ahead

01:14:40.760 on your personality.

01:14:42.040 You got to learn

01:14:42.740 how to be funny.

01:14:43.880 You have to try.

01:14:45.300 You actually

01:14:46.020 are not the one

01:14:47.460 who was told

01:14:48.080 she had to just sit there

01:14:48.920 and look pretty.

01:14:49.800 It wasn't going to work.

01:14:51.600 So I think

01:14:52.260 ugly politicians

01:14:53.420 and ugliness in general

01:14:54.960 as a child

01:14:55.380 is not such a bad thing.

01:14:56.900 See,

01:14:57.180 conversely,

01:14:58.020 I was super hot

01:14:59.440 until I was 30

01:15:00.660 and now I'm a pig.

01:15:02.140 So I got all the wrong

01:15:03.520 messaging growing up.

01:15:06.620 But you developed

01:15:07.500 your brain

01:15:08.000 and that's attractive.

01:15:10.680 Yes.

01:15:11.260 Thank you for acknowledging

01:15:12.540 that, Megan.

01:15:15.420 Adam,

01:15:15.880 it's always a pleasure.

01:15:16.800 If you decide to leave,

01:15:18.140 don't come to New York City

01:15:19.420 because it's no better,

01:15:20.380 but maybe we'll find a place

01:15:21.460 in between

01:15:22.000 and I'll see you there.

01:15:23.080 I look forward

01:15:23.660 to talking to you soon, Megan.

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01:16:02.220 called Prey

01:16:03.600 P-R-E-Y

01:16:05.080 and she has taken

01:16:06.320 a very hard look

01:16:07.560 at the crazy surge

01:16:10.560 in violence against women

01:16:12.880 and strange

01:16:15.320 customary changes

01:16:17.720 for women

01:16:18.380 in Europe

01:16:19.160 as a result

01:16:20.360 of all this

01:16:21.100 mass migration

01:16:22.040 we saw

01:16:22.720 starting in particular

01:16:24.400 there in 2015

01:16:25.220 there was a huge spike

01:16:26.220 remember Germany

01:16:27.000 and these other countries

01:16:27.720 were taking all these

01:16:28.440 it was supposed to be

01:16:29.480 to help refugees

01:16:30.180 from the Syrian war

01:16:31.240 but what happened

01:16:32.240 was a lot of countries

01:16:33.340 and she's open about this

01:16:35.620 you know

01:16:35.900 Ayaan is an atheist now

01:16:37.700 but she was raised Muslim

01:16:38.780 but where Muslim men

01:16:40.740 have immigrated

01:16:42.520 into some of these

01:16:43.240 European countries

01:16:44.160 and haven't assimilated

01:16:45.680 they have been bringing

01:16:46.960 in some cases

01:16:47.760 in far too many cases

01:16:48.940 attitudes about women

01:16:50.400 that have proven

01:16:51.500 very dangerous

01:16:52.360 very problematic

01:16:53.920 and how the courts

01:16:55.620 and society

01:16:57.300 and the media

01:16:58.160 is helping

01:16:59.700 they're all helping

01:17:00.980 instead of

01:17:01.880 stopping the madness

01:17:03.640 everyone's too afraid

01:17:05.500 to say

01:17:06.100 you're gonna have

01:17:07.460 to assimilate

01:17:08.020 we're not gonna

01:17:08.680 assimilate to your views

01:17:09.820 of women being

01:17:10.440 second class citizens

01:17:11.360 you're gonna have

01:17:12.380 to assimilate

01:17:12.800 to our way of life

01:17:13.660 where women can

01:17:14.720 be prime minister

01:17:15.580 alright

01:17:16.140 anyway

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01:17:19.760 Ayaan of course

01:17:20.460 has always done her homework

01:17:21.500 and I think

01:17:21.940 you're gonna be

01:17:22.980 fascinated and

01:17:23.920 slightly concerned

01:17:25.920 at the end of it

01:17:27.180 in the meantime though

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The Megyn Kelly Show - February 12, 2021

Adam Carolla on COVID Madness, AOC, and Whether He'll Leave California ｜ Ep. 63

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