Alleged Kirk Assassin's Ideology and Connections, Erika Continuing Charlie's Mission： AM Update 9⧸15
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The suspect accused of murdering Irina Zarutska is out of jail and undergoing a court-ordered mental competency exam. Utah Governor Spencer Cox confirms that Charlie Kirk s alleged assassin was, quote, deeply indoctrinated in leftist ideology. as new dark details of the suspect s personal life come to light.
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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. It's Monday, September 15th, 2025. And this is your
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AM update. If this was MAGA and a radicalized MAGA person, I would be saying that as well.
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If the friends were saying that, I would be sharing that as well. That's not what they're
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sharing. Utah Governor Cox confirms that Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin was, quote,
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deeply indoctrinated in leftist ideology as new dark details of the suspect's personal life come
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to light. The evildoers responsible for my husband's assassination have no idea what they have done.
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Charlie's widow Erica says her husband's mission will not end with his death. And the suspect
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accused of murdering Irina Zarutska is out of jail and undergoing a court-ordered mental competency exam.
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What that could mean for justice. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM update.
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Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old suspect accused of assassinating Charlie Kirk,
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due in court tomorrow. This as we're learning more about Robinson and his lifestyle.
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Fox News first report the suspect was living with a transgender roommate,
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a male pretending to be a female with whom he was in a romantic relationship. Utah Governor Spencer
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Cox confirming the roommate, named by the Daily Mail as Lance Twiggs, is cooperating with authorities,
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though Robinson is not. Law enforcement recovering bullet cartridges nearby the scene with anti-fascist
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engravings, and one, the casing to the round that killed Charlie, that read, quote, notices bulges,
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end quote, a reference to furry culture. That's a subculture in which people claim to identify as
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animals, with many overlapping ties to the trans community. Some on the left and in the media
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attempting to obfuscate Robinson's political beliefs. He was registered unaffiliated because
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his parents are registered Republicans who like guns, claiming instead the furry reference is simply
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a meme within the gaming community. Imagine their surprise when the Daily Mail broke the news
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that Robinson is in fact linked to the so-called furry lifestyle with an account on a website where
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people in animal costumes pose sexually. Robinson's trans male-to-female boyfriend is also pictured
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elsewhere on the web in multiple different animal costumes. While Robinson is not cooperating with
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authorities, Governor Cox on CNN confirming interviews with those who know him say he is a leftist.
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You told the Wall Street Journal that it is, quote, very clear to us and to the investigators
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that this was a person who was deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology. Can you elaborate on that
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Well, sure. So that information comes from the people around him, from his family members and
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friends. That's how we got that information. I mean, there are conversations that were discussed
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specifically about Charlie Kirk, other conversations about the direction that this was going. And look,
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my job is just to tell people, I really don't have a dog in this fight. If this was MAGA and a
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radicalized MAGA person, I would be saying that as well. If the friends were saying that, I would
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be sharing that as well. That's not what they're sharing.
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Cox going on to say a note written by Robinson was recovered by authorities, the details of which are
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set to be released Tuesday in the charging documents. Independent journalist Andy Ngo uncovering the
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social media accounts he says belong to Robinson's partner, confirming his transgender identity.
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One of Robinson's neighbors telling The Sun, Robinson and his trans roommate, were in a romantic
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For those who have never seen the roommate, describe that person to us.
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He, so he did have freckles on his face. For the haircut, he did have, it was a weird haircut. I can't
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quite, it was kind of a mushroom shaped one. Yeah, he was, I would say, he didn't come out much.
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There's some published reports out there that this individual, the roommate, may have been
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transitioning. Did that correlate with what you saw?
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Are you sure that they were a couple, but you have only seen them together once?
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the way, I mean, random guys don't hold hands and definitely don't kiss.
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According to Axios, Robinson's boyfriend was, quote, aghast at the murder and turned over Tyler's
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text messages, some of which authorities say referenced the murder weapon and rounds and
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casings with messages on them, all of which law enforcement found in the woods nearby the shooting.
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It appears the boyfriend Twigs did not contact authorities upon receipt of these messages,
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but turned them over only when cops found Twigs. At the same time, the New York Times obtaining
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screenshots of a group chat on Discord, a messaging platform popular in the gaming community,
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including Robinson as well as approximately 20 others, where Robinson jokes about the assassination
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after it occurred. Shortly after the FBI released photos of Robinson, someone tagged him, messaging
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WYA, or where you at, with a skull emoji. Robinson replying his doppelganger was trying to, quote,
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get me in trouble. Another user chiming in, quote, Tyler killed Charlie. One user joking about turning
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Robinson in to collect the $100,000 reward offered by the FBI. Robinson replying, quote,
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only if I get a cut. One user writing, quote, whatever you do, don't go to a McDonald's,
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referencing Luigi Mangione, who is accused of assassinating the United Healthcare CEO
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and was arrested at one of the fast food joints. Robinson then replying, quote, better also get rid
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of this manifesto and exact copy rifle I have lying around. Following Robinson's arrest, some in the
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group chat appearing to be in disbelief. One user writing, quote, I truly cannot distinguish if this is
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for real. Axios reporting federal and state investigators are examining leftist groups
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in Utah and online, determining whether anyone else knew of Robinson's plans ahead of time
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or helped him after the shooting. The New York Post reporting the probe also includes a pro-trans
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organization called Armed Queers SLC. The group took down their Instagram after the shooting,
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the Post reports. The group's logo includes two rifle rounds similar to the one that killed Charlie,
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with the words Armed Queers on one and Salt Lake City on the other. A resurfaced flyer for the event
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obtained by Young America's Foundation shows hammer and sickle, rainbow flag, and a woman armed with an AK-47
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and two ammo belts. Some social media users surfacing posts from anonymous trans-supporting accounts
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appearing to predict something ominous ahead of Charlie's appearance at Utah Valley. A neighbor
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telling the New York Post two weeks ago several people driving cars with out-of-state license plates
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were seen going in and out of Robinson's apartment. That neighbor telling the Post, quote,
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they did not give off a good vibe. CNN spoke with a man who recently worked with Robinson,
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describing him as, quote, a little abnormal, didn't talk to anyone, he was a quiet dude,
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and he didn't like talking unless spoken to. He stays in the back, and I knew from word of mouth
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from coworkers that he was not fond of Trump or Charlie Kirk, obviously. A fact his own family
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verified to authorities. Robinson is being held on suspicion of aggravated murder, felony discharge of
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a firearm causing serious bodily harm, and obstruction of justice. He is expected to be formally charged
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on Tuesday. Governor Cox previously indicating the state does intend to seek the death penalty.
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Erica Kirk, Charlie's widow, speaking out publicly Friday night, her first remarks since her husband's
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murder. Erica opening her remarks, thanking law enforcement, the first responders who attempted
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to save Charlie's life, as well as those who worked with Charlie and offered their prayers and support
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since his murder. Reflecting on his commitment to his faith and love for his work, Erica delivered this
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The evildoers responsible for my husband's assassination have no idea what they have done.
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They killed Charlie because he preached a message of patriotism, faith, and of God's merciful love.
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But they should all know this. If you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before,
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you have no idea. You have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country
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and this world. You have no idea. You have no idea the fire that you have ignited within this wife.
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The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry. To everyone listening tonight
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across America, the movement my husband built will not die. It won't. I refuse to let that happen.
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It will not die. All of us will refuse to let that happen. No one will ever forget my husband's name
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and I will make sure of it. Charlie was assassinated at the first stop of his fall series,
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the American Comeback Tour. On previous tours, he went from campus to campus urging college students
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to debate every hot button issue under the sun, especially those who disagreed with him.
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In the days since his death, the question hanging in the air, what comes next? Erica declaring
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Charlie's life's work will carry on. Our campus tour this fall will continue. There will be even more
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tours in the years to come. America Fest here in Phoenix this December will go on. It will be
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greater than ever. The radio and podcast show that he was so proud of will go on. And in a world filled
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with chaos, doubt and uncertainty, my husband's voice will remain and it will ring out louder and more
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clearly than ever. And his wisdom will endure. On Sunday, CNN's chief data analyst, Harry Enten,
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examining Charlie's influence on the 2024 election and his role in delivering the youth vote for
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President Trump. Well, let's take a look at 18 to 24 year olds who voted for Donald Trump. In 2016,
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it was just 34 percent. Jump ahead to 2020, it was just 31 percent. But look in this past presidential
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election. In 2024, Donald Trump's percentage of voters under the age of 25 jumped all the way up
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to 43 percent of the vote. We can say that Trump had the best performance for any Republican nominee
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for president this entire century among voters under the age of 25. 86 percent of Generation Z prefers to
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get its news through digital media. So that advice that Charlie Kirk gave to Donald Trump to bypass
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the traditional media to reach out to younger voters, it was a really smart piece of advice.
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Of course, it wasn't Kirk merely advising Donald Trump to bypass the traditional media to reach out
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to younger voters. Charlie Kirk did it himself. The Charlie Kirk show podcast ranking, well, this past
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quarter, it ranked in the top 10 in news, ranked in the top 10. So it wasn't just that Charlie Kirk was
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advising Donald Trump. It was, of course, that Charlie Kirk was meeting the younger voters where they were
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and trying to persuade them to his side of the aisle. And based upon the 2024 election results,
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I think we could say that Charlie Kirk was quite successful.
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Late Saturday night, executive producer of the Charlie Kirk show, Andrew Colvitt, posting on X,
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quote, TPUSA has received over 32,000 inquiries in the last 48 hours to start new campus chapters.
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To put that in perspective, TPUSA currently has 900 official college chapters and around 1,200 high
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school chapters with a presence on 3,500 total. Charlie's vision to have a Club America chapter,
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our high school brand, in every high school in America, around 23,000, will come true much faster than
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he could ever possibly have imagined. Colvitt following up on that post with, quote,
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This is The Turning Point. Turning Point USA will hold a public memorial service for Charlie this
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coming Sunday, September 21st, at State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona. That's a football stadium
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with a capacity of more than 60,000. President Trump over the weekend telling members at his
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Bedminster, New Jersey club that he has plans to honor Charlie at the memorial.
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He was a really special guy. So I'm going to be going to Charlie's, I guess you'd call it a funeral.
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There's a small one. I said, can we do the big one? Because we're going to give him the
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Presidential Medal of Freedom, which is a big deal. It's the civil version.
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It's the highest you can get. It's the equivalent of the Congressional Medal of Honor.
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Vice President J.D. Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio also reportedly planning to attend.
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Coming up, the man charged in the brutal killing of Irina Zarutska now undergoing a court-ordered
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psychiatric evaluation. What comes next in the case?
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The man accused of murdering 23-year-old Irina Zarutska on a Charlotte, North Carolina,
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light rail train, is out of jail and in a psych hospital, undergoing a court-ordered mental
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competency evaluation, the results of which could affect whether he ultimately goes to trial for his
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actions. On August 22nd, surveillance footage showing Zarutska taking a seat on the train,
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one row ahead of DeCarlos Brown Jr. The assailant takes out a knife from his pocket,
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then out of nowhere, stabs the victim quickly and repeatedly multiple times, including in her neck.
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Zarutska dying from the injuries just moments later. On August 29th, one week after the unprovoked
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slaying, Judge Roy Wiggins signing an order committing DeCarlos Brown Jr. to a psychiatric
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hospital to determine his mental fitness to stay on trial. If he's not mentally fit,
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he could be involuntarily committed to a state psychiatric facility indefinitely.
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Court documents show the evaluation cannot exceed 60 days. WBTV in Charlotte interviewing the statewide
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Director of Forensic Services, Dr. Robert Cochran, who oversees all court-ordered evaluations in North
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Carolina, on how the process works. There are often quite extensive assessments of the individual
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before the evaluator determines whether the person, one, suffers from a mental illness or defect,
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and secondly then, if so, if they're capable to proceed in their trial or not. The system is built
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around having hearings, making determination, cross-examining witnesses, having the individual
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evaluated by another professional or even a third professional to get other opinions so that the
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right decision, the right call is made at the end of the day. Brown broke the law many times before
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this one, including a 2013 conviction for larceny and breaking and entering, and a 2015 conviction for
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robbery with a dangerous weapon. He was well-known by law enforcement and known to have schizophrenia
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before Irina's killing. At the time of the attack, Brown still faced charges from a January arrest,
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officials charging him then with misusing 911 after he repeatedly called to report he had been
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implanted with, quote, man-made material controlling how he walked, talked, and ate. In July, Judge
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Wiggins ordering a mental evaluation at the request of a public defender, but he notably did not detain
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Brown pending the evaluation despite obvious signs of severe mental illness. That was seven months after
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Brown's initial arrest for the crime and the decision by magistrate judge Teresa Stokes, whom Judge
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Wiggins oversees, not to detain Brown nor to order a psych evaluation then. Brown's mother telling local
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outlet WSOC she believes the system failed her son and that he never should have been released after
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his January arrest. Online court records indicate the next hearing is set for September 19th, though
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it remains unclear whether that date will stand. DeCarlos Brown Jr. is charged with first-degree murder in
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state court and one federal count of committing an act causing death on a mass transportation system.
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He faces a maximum of life without parole or the death penalty. That's two innocent victims whose
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murder by catastrophic neck injury was international news last week. The video of each seen millions of
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times, especially Charlie's gunshot wound. Representative Anna Paulina Luna of Florida,
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a Republican, is pushing social media companies to take down the video of Charlie's murder.
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TikTok has agreed. Others online, including yours truly, have advocated that the video not be censored
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because it reveals the depths of the leftist insanity here, about which too many have been
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in denial. Mike Benz, whose group Foundation for Freedom Online backs a free and open internet,
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Honestly, it was very important for me to see the video, which did something in me that cannot be
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expressed by a simple write-up in the New York Times, which is the history the world will be left
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with without the video. Although some sick people are celebrating the video, many of us have the
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mindset of Jackie Kennedy after her husband, JFK, was assassinated and they urged her to change out of
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her bloodied pink Chanel suit before the swearing-in ceremony for Lyndon B. Johnson. She refused, saying to
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those around her, let them see what they've done.
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And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show,
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where we will have Dan Bongino, the deputy director of the FBI, on the latest in the Charlie Kirk
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