The Megyn Kelly Show - Alleged Kirk Assassin's Ideology and Connections, Erika Continuing Charlie's Mission： AM Update 9⧸15

00:00:00.000 Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. It's Monday, September 15th, 2025. And this is your

00:00:08.560 AM update. If this was MAGA and a radicalized MAGA person, I would be saying that as well.

00:00:13.840 If the friends were saying that, I would be sharing that as well. That's not what they're

00:00:17.680 sharing. Utah Governor Cox confirms that Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin was, quote,

00:00:22.840 deeply indoctrinated in leftist ideology as new dark details of the suspect's personal life come

00:00:30.760 to light. The evildoers responsible for my husband's assassination have no idea what they have done.

00:00:39.220 Charlie's widow Erica says her husband's mission will not end with his death. And the suspect

00:00:44.820 accused of murdering Irina Zarutska is out of jail and undergoing a court-ordered mental competency exam.

00:00:52.100 What that could mean for justice. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM update.

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00:01:57.040 Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old suspect accused of assassinating Charlie Kirk,

00:02:06.420 due in court tomorrow. This as we're learning more about Robinson and his lifestyle.

00:02:11.760 Fox News first report the suspect was living with a transgender roommate,

00:02:16.220 a male pretending to be a female with whom he was in a romantic relationship. Utah Governor Spencer

00:02:22.960 Cox confirming the roommate, named by the Daily Mail as Lance Twiggs, is cooperating with authorities,

00:02:29.480 though Robinson is not. Law enforcement recovering bullet cartridges nearby the scene with anti-fascist

00:02:35.860 engravings, and one, the casing to the round that killed Charlie, that read, quote, notices bulges,

00:02:43.620 end quote, a reference to furry culture. That's a subculture in which people claim to identify as

00:02:51.180 animals, with many overlapping ties to the trans community. Some on the left and in the media

00:02:56.880 attempting to obfuscate Robinson's political beliefs. He was registered unaffiliated because

00:03:02.900 his parents are registered Republicans who like guns, claiming instead the furry reference is simply

00:03:08.560 a meme within the gaming community. Imagine their surprise when the Daily Mail broke the news

00:03:13.480 that Robinson is in fact linked to the so-called furry lifestyle with an account on a website where

00:03:20.360 people in animal costumes pose sexually. Robinson's trans male-to-female boyfriend is also pictured

00:03:28.000 elsewhere on the web in multiple different animal costumes. While Robinson is not cooperating with

00:03:34.100 authorities, Governor Cox on CNN confirming interviews with those who know him say he is a leftist.

00:03:40.740 You told the Wall Street Journal that it is, quote, very clear to us and to the investigators

00:03:45.800 that this was a person who was deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology. Can you elaborate on that

00:03:52.100 and be more specific?

00:03:53.440 Well, sure. So that information comes from the people around him, from his family members and

00:03:59.680 friends. That's how we got that information. I mean, there are conversations that were discussed

00:04:05.940 specifically about Charlie Kirk, other conversations about the direction that this was going. And look,

00:04:12.280 my job is just to tell people, I really don't have a dog in this fight. If this was MAGA and a

00:04:18.580 radicalized MAGA person, I would be saying that as well. If the friends were saying that, I would

00:04:22.860 be sharing that as well. That's not what they're sharing.

00:04:26.140 Cox going on to say a note written by Robinson was recovered by authorities, the details of which are

00:04:31.300 set to be released Tuesday in the charging documents. Independent journalist Andy Ngo uncovering the

00:04:37.160 social media accounts he says belong to Robinson's partner, confirming his transgender identity.

00:04:43.740 One of Robinson's neighbors telling The Sun, Robinson and his trans roommate, were in a romantic

00:04:50.060 relationship.

00:04:51.180 For those who have never seen the roommate, describe that person to us.

00:04:54.620 He, so he did have freckles on his face. For the haircut, he did have, it was a weird haircut. I can't

00:05:02.140 quite, it was kind of a mushroom shaped one. Yeah, he was, I would say, he didn't come out much.

00:05:09.560 There's some published reports out there that this individual, the roommate, may have been

00:05:13.400 transitioning. Did that correlate with what you saw?

00:05:18.280 Yeah, definitely.

00:05:20.000 Are you sure that they were a couple, but you have only seen them together once?

00:05:23.040 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the way, I mean, random guys don't hold hands and definitely don't kiss.

00:05:31.100 According to Axios, Robinson's boyfriend was, quote, aghast at the murder and turned over Tyler's

00:05:37.460 text messages, some of which authorities say referenced the murder weapon and rounds and

00:05:43.160 casings with messages on them, all of which law enforcement found in the woods nearby the shooting.

00:05:48.600 It appears the boyfriend Twigs did not contact authorities upon receipt of these messages,

00:05:54.020 but turned them over only when cops found Twigs. At the same time, the New York Times obtaining

00:06:00.000 screenshots of a group chat on Discord, a messaging platform popular in the gaming community,

00:06:05.860 including Robinson as well as approximately 20 others, where Robinson jokes about the assassination

00:06:11.420 after it occurred. Shortly after the FBI released photos of Robinson, someone tagged him, messaging

00:06:18.500 WYA, or where you at, with a skull emoji. Robinson replying his doppelganger was trying to, quote,

00:06:26.020 get me in trouble. Another user chiming in, quote, Tyler killed Charlie. One user joking about turning

00:06:32.620 Robinson in to collect the $100,000 reward offered by the FBI. Robinson replying, quote,

00:06:38.380 only if I get a cut. One user writing, quote, whatever you do, don't go to a McDonald's,

00:06:44.040 referencing Luigi Mangione, who is accused of assassinating the United Healthcare CEO

00:06:48.740 and was arrested at one of the fast food joints. Robinson then replying, quote, better also get rid

00:06:54.640 of this manifesto and exact copy rifle I have lying around. Following Robinson's arrest, some in the

00:07:01.720 group chat appearing to be in disbelief. One user writing, quote, I truly cannot distinguish if this is

00:07:07.340 for real. Axios reporting federal and state investigators are examining leftist groups

00:07:12.980 in Utah and online, determining whether anyone else knew of Robinson's plans ahead of time

00:07:18.900 or helped him after the shooting. The New York Post reporting the probe also includes a pro-trans

00:07:24.940 organization called Armed Queers SLC. The group took down their Instagram after the shooting,

00:07:31.640 the Post reports. The group's logo includes two rifle rounds similar to the one that killed Charlie,

00:07:37.820 with the words Armed Queers on one and Salt Lake City on the other. A resurfaced flyer for the event

00:07:44.880 obtained by Young America's Foundation shows hammer and sickle, rainbow flag, and a woman armed with an AK-47

00:07:52.120 and two ammo belts. Some social media users surfacing posts from anonymous trans-supporting accounts

00:07:59.120 appearing to predict something ominous ahead of Charlie's appearance at Utah Valley. A neighbor

00:08:05.020 telling the New York Post two weeks ago several people driving cars with out-of-state license plates

00:08:10.260 were seen going in and out of Robinson's apartment. That neighbor telling the Post, quote,

00:08:15.440 they did not give off a good vibe. CNN spoke with a man who recently worked with Robinson,

00:08:20.300 describing him as, quote, a little abnormal, didn't talk to anyone, he was a quiet dude,

00:08:25.920 and he didn't like talking unless spoken to. He stays in the back, and I knew from word of mouth

00:08:30.540 from coworkers that he was not fond of Trump or Charlie Kirk, obviously. A fact his own family

00:08:37.440 verified to authorities. Robinson is being held on suspicion of aggravated murder, felony discharge of

00:08:44.060 a firearm causing serious bodily harm, and obstruction of justice. He is expected to be formally charged

00:08:50.060 on Tuesday. Governor Cox previously indicating the state does intend to seek the death penalty.

00:08:57.680 Erica Kirk, Charlie's widow, speaking out publicly Friday night, her first remarks since her husband's

00:09:03.440 murder. Erica opening her remarks, thanking law enforcement, the first responders who attempted

00:09:08.820 to save Charlie's life, as well as those who worked with Charlie and offered their prayers and support

00:09:13.680 since his murder. Reflecting on his commitment to his faith and love for his work, Erica delivered this

00:09:20.200 solemn vow.

00:09:21.300 The evildoers responsible for my husband's assassination have no idea what they have done. 0.97

00:09:29.960 They killed Charlie because he preached a message of patriotism, faith, and of God's merciful love.

00:09:37.660 But they should all know this. If you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before,

00:09:45.780 you have no idea. You have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country

00:09:52.400 and this world. You have no idea. You have no idea the fire that you have ignited within this wife.

00:10:00.180 The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry. To everyone listening tonight

00:10:08.700 across America, the movement my husband built will not die. It won't. I refuse to let that happen.

00:10:17.140 It will not die. All of us will refuse to let that happen. No one will ever forget my husband's name

00:10:26.280 and I will make sure of it. Charlie was assassinated at the first stop of his fall series,

00:10:31.640 the American Comeback Tour. On previous tours, he went from campus to campus urging college students

00:10:36.900 to debate every hot button issue under the sun, especially those who disagreed with him.

00:10:42.120 In the days since his death, the question hanging in the air, what comes next? Erica declaring

00:10:47.580 Charlie's life's work will carry on. Our campus tour this fall will continue. There will be even more

00:10:54.660 tours in the years to come. America Fest here in Phoenix this December will go on. It will be

00:11:01.780 greater than ever. The radio and podcast show that he was so proud of will go on. And in a world filled

00:11:10.700 with chaos, doubt and uncertainty, my husband's voice will remain and it will ring out louder and more

00:11:16.940 clearly than ever. And his wisdom will endure. On Sunday, CNN's chief data analyst, Harry Enten,

00:11:23.820 examining Charlie's influence on the 2024 election and his role in delivering the youth vote for

00:11:29.420 President Trump. Well, let's take a look at 18 to 24 year olds who voted for Donald Trump. In 2016,

00:11:35.060 it was just 34 percent. Jump ahead to 2020, it was just 31 percent. But look in this past presidential

00:11:40.980 election. In 2024, Donald Trump's percentage of voters under the age of 25 jumped all the way up

00:11:47.240 to 43 percent of the vote. We can say that Trump had the best performance for any Republican nominee

00:11:53.720 for president this entire century among voters under the age of 25. 86 percent of Generation Z prefers to

00:12:02.660 get its news through digital media. So that advice that Charlie Kirk gave to Donald Trump to bypass

00:12:08.140 the traditional media to reach out to younger voters, it was a really smart piece of advice.

00:12:13.980 Of course, it wasn't Kirk merely advising Donald Trump to bypass the traditional media to reach out

00:12:18.900 to younger voters. Charlie Kirk did it himself. The Charlie Kirk show podcast ranking, well, this past

00:12:24.900 quarter, it ranked in the top 10 in news, ranked in the top 10. So it wasn't just that Charlie Kirk was

00:12:31.540 advising Donald Trump. It was, of course, that Charlie Kirk was meeting the younger voters where they were

00:12:36.740 and trying to persuade them to his side of the aisle. And based upon the 2024 election results,

00:12:41.680 I think we could say that Charlie Kirk was quite successful.

00:12:45.160 Late Saturday night, executive producer of the Charlie Kirk show, Andrew Colvitt, posting on X,

00:12:50.000 quote, TPUSA has received over 32,000 inquiries in the last 48 hours to start new campus chapters.

00:12:58.720 To put that in perspective, TPUSA currently has 900 official college chapters and around 1,200 high

00:13:06.400 school chapters with a presence on 3,500 total. Charlie's vision to have a Club America chapter,

00:13:13.400 our high school brand, in every high school in America, around 23,000, will come true much faster than

00:13:19.760 he could ever possibly have imagined. Colvitt following up on that post with, quote,

00:13:24.720 This is The Turning Point. Turning Point USA will hold a public memorial service for Charlie this

00:13:31.240 coming Sunday, September 21st, at State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona. That's a football stadium

00:13:37.120 with a capacity of more than 60,000. President Trump over the weekend telling members at his

00:13:42.640 Bedminster, New Jersey club that he has plans to honor Charlie at the memorial.

00:13:47.520 He was a really special guy. So I'm going to be going to Charlie's, I guess you'd call it a funeral.

00:13:53.420 There's a small one. I said, can we do the big one? Because we're going to give him the

00:13:57.960 Presidential Medal of Freedom, which is a big deal. It's the civil version. 0.51

00:14:03.760 It's the highest you can get. It's the equivalent of the Congressional Medal of Honor.

00:14:09.740 Vice President J.D. Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio also reportedly planning to attend.

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00:15:42.400 The man accused of murdering 23-year-old Irina Zarutska on a Charlotte, North Carolina,

00:15:47.780 light rail train, is out of jail and in a psych hospital, undergoing a court-ordered mental

00:15:53.560 competency evaluation, the results of which could affect whether he ultimately goes to trial for his

00:15:58.500 actions. On August 22nd, surveillance footage showing Zarutska taking a seat on the train, 0.94

00:16:04.040 one row ahead of DeCarlos Brown Jr. The assailant takes out a knife from his pocket,

00:16:09.200 then out of nowhere, stabs the victim quickly and repeatedly multiple times, including in her neck.

00:16:14.960 Zarutska dying from the injuries just moments later. On August 29th, one week after the unprovoked

00:16:21.620 slaying, Judge Roy Wiggins signing an order committing DeCarlos Brown Jr. to a psychiatric

00:16:26.860 hospital to determine his mental fitness to stay on trial. If he's not mentally fit,

00:16:32.180 he could be involuntarily committed to a state psychiatric facility indefinitely.

00:16:37.140 Court documents show the evaluation cannot exceed 60 days. WBTV in Charlotte interviewing the statewide

00:16:43.680 Director of Forensic Services, Dr. Robert Cochran, who oversees all court-ordered evaluations in North

00:16:50.040 Carolina, on how the process works. There are often quite extensive assessments of the individual

00:16:55.300 before the evaluator determines whether the person, one, suffers from a mental illness or defect,

00:17:01.620 and secondly then, if so, if they're capable to proceed in their trial or not. The system is built

00:17:07.280 around having hearings, making determination, cross-examining witnesses, having the individual

00:17:13.220 evaluated by another professional or even a third professional to get other opinions so that the

00:17:19.440 right decision, the right call is made at the end of the day. Brown broke the law many times before

00:17:24.780 this one, including a 2013 conviction for larceny and breaking and entering, and a 2015 conviction for

00:17:30.860 robbery with a dangerous weapon. He was well-known by law enforcement and known to have schizophrenia

00:17:36.500 before Irina's killing. At the time of the attack, Brown still faced charges from a January arrest,

00:17:43.240 officials charging him then with misusing 911 after he repeatedly called to report he had been

00:17:48.580 implanted with, quote, man-made material controlling how he walked, talked, and ate. In July, Judge

00:17:55.660 Wiggins ordering a mental evaluation at the request of a public defender, but he notably did not detain

00:18:01.800 Brown pending the evaluation despite obvious signs of severe mental illness. That was seven months after

00:18:08.860 Brown's initial arrest for the crime and the decision by magistrate judge Teresa Stokes, whom Judge

00:18:14.840 Wiggins oversees, not to detain Brown nor to order a psych evaluation then. Brown's mother telling local

00:18:21.660 outlet WSOC she believes the system failed her son and that he never should have been released after

00:18:27.080 his January arrest. Online court records indicate the next hearing is set for September 19th, though

00:18:33.000 it remains unclear whether that date will stand. DeCarlos Brown Jr. is charged with first-degree murder in

00:18:38.940 state court and one federal count of committing an act causing death on a mass transportation system.

00:18:44.960 He faces a maximum of life without parole or the death penalty. That's two innocent victims whose

00:18:51.380 murder by catastrophic neck injury was international news last week. The video of each seen millions of

00:18:57.820 times, especially Charlie's gunshot wound. Representative Anna Paulina Luna of Florida,

00:19:03.460 a Republican, is pushing social media companies to take down the video of Charlie's murder.

00:19:08.820 TikTok has agreed. Others online, including yours truly, have advocated that the video not be censored

00:19:15.360 because it reveals the depths of the leftist insanity here, about which too many have been

00:19:20.880 in denial. Mike Benz, whose group Foundation for Freedom Online backs a free and open internet,

00:19:27.480 wrote, quote,

00:19:27.960 Honestly, it was very important for me to see the video, which did something in me that cannot be

00:19:33.740 expressed by a simple write-up in the New York Times, which is the history the world will be left

00:19:39.240 with without the video. Although some sick people are celebrating the video, many of us have the

00:19:45.480 mindset of Jackie Kennedy after her husband, JFK, was assassinated and they urged her to change out of

00:19:52.120 her bloodied pink Chanel suit before the swearing-in ceremony for Lyndon B. Johnson. She refused, saying to

00:19:59.760 those around her, let them see what they've done.

00:20:04.040 And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show,

00:20:08.760 where we will have Dan Bongino, the deputy director of the FBI, on the latest in the Charlie Kirk

00:20:14.520 investigation. Live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 111 at noon east, on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly,

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Alleged Kirk Assassin's Ideology and Connections, Erika Continuing Charlie's Mission： AM Update 9⧸15

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