The Megyn Kelly Show - June 04, 2025


Boulder Terror Suspect's Family in ICE Custody, Jeffrey Epstein's Brother Speaks Out: AM Update 6⧸4


Episode Stats

Length

16 minutes

Words per Minute

174.01378

Word Count

2,929

Sentence Count

183

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary

The brother of Jeffrey Epstein reacts to FBI Director Cash Patel and Deputy Director Dan Bongino s declaration that his brother s cause of death was indeed a suicide. A security guard involved in the Intercontinental Hotel incident between Sean Diddy and Cassie Ventura takes the stand. And Caroline Levitt calls out the Washington Post s reporting on a mysterious drop in fentanyl seizures along the southern border. All that and more coming up in just a moment on Your AM Update.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. It's Wednesday, June 4th, 2025. And this is your
00:00:08.200 AM update. We're also investigating to what extent his family knew about this horrific
00:00:12.780 attack. The family of the Boulder, Colorado terror suspect in custody. I'd like to see
00:00:18.140 what they have seen to make him come to that determination. The brother of Jeffrey Epstein
00:00:23.480 reacts to FBI Director Cash Patel and Deputy Director Dan Bongino's declaration that his
00:00:28.660 brother's cause of death was indeed a suicide. A security guard involved in the Intercontinental
00:00:34.660 Hotel incident between Sean Diddy Combs and Cassie Ventura takes the stand. And Caroline
00:00:40.120 Levitt calls out the Washington Post's reporting on the so-called mysterious drop in fentanyl
00:00:45.480 seizures along the southern border. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM update.
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00:02:07.080 The Department of Homeland Security confirming on Tuesday the wife and five children of the Boulder,
00:02:15.640 Colorado terror suspect are now in the custody of ICE and are being processed for expedited removal,
00:02:22.700 allowing for rapid deportation without a hearing before an immigration judge.
00:02:26.780 The suspect, an Egyptian national accused of launching Molotov cocktails into a crowd at a
00:02:32.400 pro-Israel gathering, overstayed a tourist visa and temporary work permit granted under the Biden
00:02:38.120 administration. Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Monday posting, in light of yesterday's horrific
00:02:43.640 attack, all terrorists, their family members, and terrorist sympathizers here on a visa should know
00:02:49.820 that under the Trump administration, we will find you, revoke your visa, and deport you.
00:02:54.940 In an interview with investigators, the suspect saying he left a phone at his home with messages to
00:03:00.020 his family. Authorities recovered the phone from the residence with cooperation from the suspect's
00:03:04.700 wife. The suspect, Mohammed Salaman, reportedly told police he, quote, wanted to kill all Zionist
00:03:10.800 people and said he would conduct the attack again if he could. He's now charged with a federal hate
00:03:16.500 crime and 16 state counts, including attempted murder. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem on
00:03:22.040 Tuesday posting this video on X. We're also investigating to what extent his family knew about this horrific
00:03:28.340 attack. If they had any knowledge of it or if they provided support to it, justice will be served.
00:03:35.100 We will continue tracking the story.
00:03:38.820 The FBI's top two officials saying last week they believe disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein did in
00:03:45.260 fact kill himself. Kash Patel and Dan Bongino have not been shy in their pre-government life
00:03:50.380 about demanding answers in the Epstein case.
00:03:53.260 You know, it's the same thing with Epstein's list. It's like, what the hell are these Republicans doing?
00:03:57.060 I don't care about the list itself, but it released the names, right? What the hell are the House
00:04:00.940 Republicans doing? They have the majority. You can't get the list? Put on your big boy pants and
00:04:07.320 let us know who the pedophiles are. Epstein is alleged to have videos of this with a lot of
00:04:12.800 these famous people. And yet it's the craziest thing. You don't hear anything about this.
00:04:17.240 Now that they're number one and two at the FBI, they are not mincing words. They say they've
00:04:22.300 looked at all the facts that Epstein took his own life and that there's zero evidence to the
00:04:27.720 contrary. You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide. As someone who has worked as a public
00:04:34.280 defender, as a prosecutor, who's been in that prison system, who's been in the Metropolitan
00:04:37.700 Detention Center, who's been in segregated housing, you know a suicide when you see one,
00:04:42.920 and that's what that was. He killed himself. Again, you want me to? I've seen the whole file.
00:04:48.960 He killed himself. Epstein died in prison in August 2019. The Justice Department saying at the time it
00:04:55.400 was a suicide, a claim doubted by many, including Epstein's brother, Mark Epstein, who told us he
00:05:02.400 still has more questions than answers. I'd like to see what they have seen to make him come to that
00:05:08.240 determination, because everybody that's seen the facts that I've been able to get my hands on
00:05:13.460 thinks it was a homicide. People that did the actual autopsy, they came out of the autopsy room
00:05:18.640 saying that they couldn't call it a suicide because it looked too much like a homicide.
00:05:23.900 And then a few days later, Dr. Sampson, who was the chief pathologist in New York,
00:05:29.480 she determines it was a suicide and has yet to determine or to state what made her come to that
00:05:35.720 conclusion after the two pathologists that actually did the autopsy couldn't call it a suicide.
00:05:41.700 The day of the autopsy and the initial death certificate, the cause of death said pending further
00:05:48.000 study. Most pathologists I talk to say that when it says pending further study, you usually don't
00:05:54.260 get an answer for weeks because they're studying, they're investigating what study was done for her
00:06:00.040 to change it. Mark hired famed pathologist Dr. Michael Bodden to conduct an autopsy of his brother
00:06:06.080 Jeffrey. Bodden said the findings were more consistent with homicide than with suicide. The New York City
00:06:12.020 chief medical officer concluded it was a suicide that Epstein hanged himself. Mark has not made any
00:06:18.960 requests of Trump 2.0, but says his many previous asks over the years have gone unfulfilled.
00:06:25.560 Why I can't get the video footage that I'm requesting? Why I can't get the medical records from the
00:06:30.220 hospital? I'm the next of kin. I'm the only next of kin. These medical records should be available to me.
00:06:35.500 This doesn't pass the last thing. What happened to the PCR report? We know the EMTs were there because
00:06:41.060 there's a photograph of them taking Jeff out of the prison on a gurney. They take him to the hospital
00:06:46.820 and he's intubated. He has a neck brace on and he's intubated. You know, they're squeezing like
00:06:51.660 an air balloon to put air into his lungs. Now we know from the autopsy he was dead for at least two
00:06:56.340 hours. So the question is, why were they putting on the charade to make it look like he was alive or
00:07:02.900 revivable? None of this makes sense. The camera inside the cell block where Epstein was kept was
00:07:08.320 mysteriously non-functioning at the time, though officials say it had been broken since before
00:07:13.700 Epstein was housed there. The guards outside of the cell say they were surfing the net and later
00:07:19.200 fell asleep rather than checking on Epstein every 30 minutes as required. Deputy Director Bongino says
00:07:25.500 there is videotape that will be released very soon showing that no one entered or even approached
00:07:31.900 Epstein's cell that Epstein was clearly alone. But Mark Epstein has another theory.
00:07:37.780 The tear is you go into a door and you face like a long corridor and you can see four cells on either
00:07:44.380 side of the corridor. You know, it's four on the left, four on the right. Jeff was alone in his cell
00:07:49.460 and I don't think all the other cells were full. So I think there were somewhere like 11 or 12 other
00:07:55.020 inmates. What I would like to know is who they are, when did they get there, and where are they now?
00:08:03.540 Because if Jeff was killed, he was either killed by somebody on the tier or he was killed by the
00:08:10.100 unnamed guards when they locked up the tier at 10 o'clock at night. And I have been told through a
00:08:14.980 source that cell doors were left unlocked that night. Somebody could have went from one cell to
00:08:19.220 another, killed somebody and gone back into their cell and it was done. You didn't have to go in and out of
00:08:23.600 the tier. Among the video Mark is seeking, footage from the infirmary where Epstein's body was taken
00:08:29.540 after discovery of his death. They were supposed to get the medical examiner there, but they violated
00:08:35.040 all codes and they moved them to the infirmary. I also would like to see the video footage by the
00:08:39.920 infirmary because we know there's cameras all over that place. Who was directing the show there?
00:08:44.320 When I asked for that footage, they initially told me they couldn't give it to me because it was part of
00:08:48.580 an ongoing investigation. That was, you know, a few years ago. Now that the investigation is over,
00:08:53.600 now they're saying that the cameras that were working don't show that area. That's the last
00:08:59.000 excuse I got. First, they couldn't show it to me because it was part of the investigation. And now
00:09:04.040 the last comment was the cameras don't show that area. This doesn't make, it doesn't pass the laugh
00:09:09.560 test. We reached out to the FBI for comment, but did not hear back. We will update the story as soon
00:09:14.580 as that videotape is made public. Coming up, the security guard who took money to delete that infamous
00:09:22.720 tape of Sean Diddy Combs beating star witness Cassie Ventura at the Intercontinental Hotel
00:09:28.080 takes the stand. And weeks after the New York Times reports that fentanyl labs are disappearing in
00:09:34.540 Mexico thanks to Trump's tariffs, the Washington Post questions why fentanyl seizures are dropping
00:09:40.460 at the border. Caroline Levitt provides a fact check.
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00:10:49.240 the stand Tuesday in the Sean Diddy Combs criminal trial was former security guard at the Intercontinental
00:10:54.040 Hotel, Eddie Garcia, who was granted immunity to testify. Garcia testifying to being alerted to a
00:11:00.540 domestic dispute on March 5th, 2016, the day of the now infamous moment showing a towel-clad Combs
00:11:06.620 caught on security footage, knocking star witness Cassie Ventura to the floor, then kicking, hitting,
00:11:12.940 and dragging her. Garcia saying when he initially watched the footage, he did not recognize Combs
00:11:17.920 or Ventura, but later learned of their identities. Garcia testifying he understood that law enforcement
00:11:23.360 was not called to the scene because, quote, Ms. Ventura did not request the presence of police
00:11:28.380 or medical attention. Garcia testifying that Combs' then chief of staff, Christina Coram,
00:11:35.040 asked if there was a way to view the video because, quote, Mr. Combs had been intoxicated
00:11:40.340 and didn't remember. The witness testifying he directed Coram to hotel management or to get a
00:11:46.120 subpoena, but he told her, quote, off the record, it's bad. Garcia saying later that night, Coram called
00:11:52.120 the security desk again, this time putting Combs directly on the phone. According to Garcia,
00:11:57.500 Combs sounded very nervous, saying he'd had too much to drink. He knew how bad the video was,
00:12:02.820 and if it got out, it would ruin Combs' career. Garcia attesting to also referring Combs to either
00:12:08.960 hotel management or to the subpoena process, then writing up the phone call in an email to his
00:12:14.220 general manager and the head of security. The witness saying later that night when he was home,
00:12:19.560 he got another call, this time on his personal cell phone from Coram, who again passed the phone to
00:12:24.940 Combs. Garcia saying, quote, he stated that I sounded like a good guy, that I sounded like
00:12:30.100 I wanted to help, that something like this could ruin him. Combs then offering to take care of
00:12:35.480 Garcia, which Garcia took to mean financially. The witness testifying to calling his boss about the
00:12:40.380 video, his boss telling Garcia they could get Combs the video for $50,000. The next day,
00:12:47.040 Garcia's boss provided him with a thumb drive containing the footage, and Garcia delivered it
00:12:52.380 to Combs. Garcia attesting Combs was, quote, smiling, excited, just looked happy. Combs referring
00:12:58.860 to Garcia as, Eddie, my angel. Combs asked for assurance that the video on the thumb drive was
00:13:05.180 the only copy. Garcia then contacting his boss, who assured Combs it had been removed entirely from
00:13:11.540 the server. Garcia says he expressed concern to Combs about what might happen if Ventura later filed a
00:13:17.800 police report. Quote, he said, I didn't have to worry about that, that she knew about it and she
00:13:22.620 wanted the video gone too. Combs FaceTiming Ventura, who then told Garcia directly, she had a movie coming
00:13:29.240 out and she wanted this to go away. Combs then asking Garcia to sign a non-disclosure agreement,
00:13:34.720 stating Garcia would pay $1 million if the video was leaked. Garcia says Combs counted out $100,000 in cash,
00:13:42.400 Garcia assuming $50,000 for his boss and $50,000 to split between Garcia and another guard. Garcia
00:13:50.060 testifying that he split the money with the other security officer on duty after the incident. He said
00:13:55.980 Combs likely believed that he was buying off not only Garcia, but the guard with whom Combs initially dealt
00:14:03.120 after the beating, Israel Flores. Unfortunately for Combs, Mr. Flores did not take any money, but did make his
00:14:11.460 own video of the security footage. Garcia said that when the video resurfaced in 2024, originally obtained
00:14:18.040 by CNN, he was questioned by law enforcement, but was not initially honest about his own involvement.
00:14:24.680 The witness saying he was later appointed legal counsel, and only then did he disclose that Combs
00:14:29.640 had paid him for the tape. On Saturday, the Washington Post reporting on, quote, the mysterious drop in
00:14:37.360 fentanyl seizures on the U.S.-Mexico border. From the piece, quote, after years of confiscating
00:14:42.600 rising amounts of fentanyl, U.S. officials are confronting a new and puzzling reality at the
00:14:47.400 Mexican border. Fentanyl seizures are plummeting. The report vaguely citing, quote, some security
00:14:53.300 officials who think cartels could be seeking ways to get around border security forces. Other possible
00:14:59.240 theories from the article, a war within two factions of the Sinaloa cartel, or a shortage in fentanyl
00:15:05.480 ingredients. Press Secretary Caroline Levitt offering another explanation at a Tuesday press
00:15:10.540 conference. On the topic of immigration, the Washington Post just ran one of the most ridiculous
00:15:15.880 headlines ever, the mysterious drop in fentanyl seizures on the U.S.-Mexico border. How is this
00:15:23.240 mysterious? There is no mystery about why there is a decrease in fentanyl coming into the United States.
00:15:29.260 This administration's strong border policies are the reason there has been a decrease in fentanyl
00:15:33.800 trafficking. His strengthened relationship with Mexican President Scheinbaum and all of the
00:15:39.420 measures he has been taking to deter illegal human and drug trafficking at our United States
00:15:44.460 southern border is the reason for plummeting fentanyl seizures at the U.S. border. There is
00:15:49.980 nothing mysterious about that, and we'd like to see the Washington Post update their headline
00:15:54.280 accordingly. Our office responded to this inquiry. We provided a whole host of the reasons that
00:16:00.280 fentanyl seizures at the southern border have dropped, and the Washington Post refused to run
00:16:03.920 them, and that's despicable. The Post only including this comment from the White House in
00:16:08.480 its report. Quote, the White House says the drop is thanks to President Trump's policies empowering
00:16:13.620 law enforcement officials to dismantle drug trafficking networks. While the Washington Post remains befuddled at
00:16:19.900 the drop in fentanyl seizures, even its progressive counterpart up north, the New York Times, reported months ago
00:16:25.980 that Mr. Trump's tariffs on Mexico caused President Scheinbaum to crack down on fentanyl labs, which were
00:16:32.520 promptly drying up in Mexico. Reporting the Washington Post appears to have missed.
00:16:38.820 And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show,
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