The Megyn Kelly Show - November 09, 2026


Calley Means Unloads on Trumpworld, Schumer Faces Revolt, Pilot's Father Speaks Out： AM Update 11⧸9

A Second Look： Megyn's 2023 Sitdown with Gov. Ron DeSantis

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00:00:32.580 Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. It's Monday, November 9th, 2026, and this is your AM update.
00:00:38.480 He had severe poor advice from people, I think, who treated him like a baby in many respects and used him.
00:00:47.860 Former Maha advisor Callie Means going public about some of President Trump's closest current and now former advisors putting corporate interests ahead of his agenda.
00:00:57.500 We can't forget about these folks that are causing harm.
00:01:01.380 Democrats plotting a wave of investigations into President Trump's administration as they prepare to take control of Congress.
00:01:08.260 Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer facing resistance from fellow Democrats as he seeks to reclaim the Senate Majority Leader's post in January.
00:01:16.200 And the father of the 20-year-old co-pilot killed in that horrific Florida plane crash,
00:01:22.280 speaking out, defending his daughter's qualifications and praising her courage
00:01:26.580 in the final moments of the flight. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM update.
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00:02:30.980 Former Trump administration advisor Callie Means launching a sweeping attack on some of the most
00:02:38.620 powerful figures in President Trump's inner circle, accusing them of putting corporate
00:02:43.100 interests and political fundraising ahead of the agenda Americans voted to enact.
00:02:48.780 Means, a leading voice in the Make America Healthy Again movement, or MAHA, and former
00:02:54.400 senior advisor to Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., resigning
00:02:59.300 from the admin in late October, frustrated by what he describes as deliberate efforts to undermine
00:03:05.040 the president's health priorities. Means directing some of his most serious accusations at Susie
00:03:11.000 Wiles, who stepped down as White House chief of staff following Republicans' devastating midterm
00:03:16.040 election losses, just as Means appeared with Joe Rogan on the Spotify hosts podcast. President
00:03:22.280 Trump announcing Friday that deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller would replace Wiles. In the two-hour
00:03:27.660 Rogan's sit-down means accusing a small group of unelected advisors of wielding extraordinary
00:03:33.080 influence over White House policy, routinely standing in the way of initiatives he believes
00:03:37.940 President Trump and Kennedy were elected to pursue. Means also accusing several of those
00:03:43.220 advisors of maintaining financial ties to the very industries the Maha movement was seeking
00:03:48.940 to challenge. Susie Wiles is the most powerful chief of staff in modern American history.
00:03:53.220 No policy decision gets done without her office giving it the okay. 1.00
00:03:58.360 She has a couple deputies.
00:04:01.100 The deputies are, it was James Blair, another guy named Walker Barrett, and another guy who recently came and named Richard Walters.
00:04:12.940 These are the most powerful people in the country.
00:04:15.120 James Blair, who was the head of political operations, is her friend from Florida.
00:04:20.720 and a long-term political consultant has taken a lot of money from industries like the sugar
00:04:27.100 industry. Tony Fabrizio, he's Trump's chief pollster. Every single policy issue goes through
00:04:33.440 him because he tells the team whether it's politically appropriate to do or not based on
00:04:38.000 his polling. He takes money from Pepsi. He takes money from pharmaceutical companies.
00:04:42.960 He takes money from almost every single industry we're fighting against right now to this day.
00:04:47.480 Among the firm's Means singled out, Ballard Partners, the prominent Washington lobbying
00:04:53.220 firm where Wiles previously worked. According to lobbying disclosures cited by CBS News,
00:04:59.500 Ballard recording extraordinary growth during President Trump's second term,
00:05:04.100 becoming one of the most lucrative lobbying operations in Washington.
00:05:08.300 Means alleging that companies hired the firm to gain access to Wiles
00:05:12.080 and influence White House policy decisions. Means also detailing specific policy fights in which
00:05:18.040 he believes corporate interests prevailed over the admin's Maha priorities. One of those fights
00:05:24.400 involving the administration's failure to establish a federal definition of ultra-processed
00:05:30.340 foods. The proposed designation intended to lay the groundwork for new nutrition policies
00:05:35.760 and greater scrutiny of products that make up a substantial portion of the American diet.
00:05:41.160 Means alleging White House advisors repeatedly blocked Maha initiatives to protect powerful
00:05:46.600 industry interests, particularly as Republicans sought to raise money ahead of the midterm
00:05:51.500 elections.
00:05:52.460 More here from Means on Rogan.
00:05:54.660 Everyone in D.C. convinced themselves that money is more important than voters.
00:05:58.160 So you have all these things marketed to kids with high sugar.
00:06:00.840 They're actually legally responsible for having studies showing how the amount of sugar that
00:06:05.940 they're recommending for daily use for kids actually doesn't harm kids.
00:06:10.000 I would imagine they don't have that.
00:06:11.680 They're legally required to have that.
00:06:13.160 This would open up a door to start that conversation, getting the truth out.
00:06:16.840 Nothing regulatory.
00:06:18.980 We did a 60 Minutes.
00:06:20.280 We got full White House approval.
00:06:21.700 We went through the interagency process.
00:06:23.220 And we were going to do a big initiative on basic food safety, asking whether the amount
00:06:26.860 of sugar in a children's diet was appropriate.
00:06:30.360 And that's where Susie told me, we can't do that. 0.78
00:06:32.760 I need the sugar industry money.
00:06:34.120 Means describing a similar conflict involving former Deputy Chief of Staff James Blair
00:06:39.340 accusing Blair of pushing policies favorable to the vaping industry while attempting to justify
00:06:45.140 those decisions as politically advantageous. Means saying Blair advocated for the approval of
00:06:51.080 fruit-flavored vaping products, arguing that access to those products was an important issue
00:06:56.760 for younger male voters ahead of the midterms. Blair, who took a leave of absence from his
00:07:02.200 White House position earlier this year to work on Republican midterm efforts,
00:07:06.120 disputing that characterization. In a lengthy response posted to X, Blair denying that he
00:07:12.120 pushed vaping as a major midterm issue, insisting his involvement focused on getting the FDA to
00:07:17.320 process nicotine product applications within the deadlines required by law. Former FDA Commissioner
00:07:24.060 Marty McCary, however, telling CBS News that tobacco industry interests repeatedly pressured
00:07:30.560 him to approve fruit-flavored vaping products. The dispute escalating Saturday as means publicly
00:07:37.000 accused Wiles and Blair of harassing him with calls and texts following the Rogan interview.
00:07:43.280 Ballard Partners founder Brian Ballard also pushing back yesterday, denying that his firm
00:07:48.140 lobbied White House officials to approve fruit-flavored vapes or influence the admin's
00:07:53.000 position on glyphosate. The confrontation unfolding amid a major leadership shakeup
00:07:58.300 in the White House. In addition to Wiles' departure, Deputy Chief of Staff Richard Walters,
00:08:03.560 one of Wiles' closest political allies, also submitting his resignation Friday.
00:08:08.700 Means continuing his criticism yesterday during an appearance on CBS, doubling down on his
00:08:13.660 accusations against Wiles and the advisors he believes were acting against Maha's interests.
00:08:19.680 I think he had severe poor advice from people, I think, who treated him like a baby in many
00:08:27.140 respects and used him. The president's staff treat him like a bait. Of course, they would block
00:08:33.860 access to and information him all the time. I would be not surprised at all. You know,
00:08:39.840 they had very short conversations on these issues, you know, where the president's extremely busy
00:08:44.340 and the president said, OK, whatever. And then he's not interested. Yeah. Then they use that
00:08:49.500 like it's all it was all like the president wants this. Means expressing considerable optimism
00:08:55.820 after the appointment of Stephen Miller,
00:08:58.240 describing him as someone who understands
00:08:59.940 the influence of corporate interests in Washington.
00:09:03.000 Means arguing that Miller intends to restore
00:09:05.240 the America First priorities
00:09:06.760 that brought President Trump back to the White House
00:09:09.160 and break the influence of lobbying firms
00:09:11.420 over federal policy.
00:09:13.260 Several of the officials named by Means
00:09:15.260 denying his allegations,
00:09:17.340 whilst defending the administration's Maha record,
00:09:20.440 telling CBS that President Trump
00:09:21.980 has accomplished more for the movement
00:09:23.580 than any previous president.
00:09:25.820 which is kind of like saying you are the thinnest kid at fat camp.
00:09:30.840 Democrats preparing to launch a wave of congressional investigations into President
00:09:35.000 Trump's administration as they get ready to take control of both the House and Senate in January.
00:09:40.820 The DOJ expected to face particularly intense scrutiny as Democrat lawmakers prepare to use
00:09:46.180 their subpoena powers to investigate Attorney General Todd Blanche and other senior administration
00:09:51.560 officials. According to The Washington Post, congressional committees are already hiring
00:09:56.000 investigators, including former federal prosecutors who were fired or left the Justice Department
00:10:00.980 during President Trump's second term. Among the issues, Democrats plan to investigate a
00:10:06.040 settlement involving President Trump's lawsuit against the IRS over the leaking of his tax
00:10:11.340 returns. They're also expected to revisit the DOJ's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein files,
00:10:16.920 examine the prosecution of President Trump's political opponents, and investigate the
00:10:21.460 lobbying industry surrounding presidential pardons. Congressman Robert Garcia of California,
00:10:28.000 a potential contender to lead the House Oversight Committee, already putting Stephen Miller on
00:10:32.660 notice. Garcia warning on X that Miller should, quote, lawyer up, suggesting he could become a
00:10:38.320 target of congressional investigations. A.G. Todd Blanche firing back yesterday on CNN.
00:10:44.340 If they try to come after Stephen Miller for these, whatever it is that Garcia thinks he's
00:10:48.360 going to do instead of actually just conducting oversight and leading, of course, the Department
00:10:52.460 of Justice will be there to defend him, just like if they went after any cabinet secretary or any
00:10:57.260 person in government. We do it all the time. Department of Justice lawyers represent members
00:11:01.980 of the executive. And the fact that Congressman Garcia is critical of that shows a remarkable
00:11:07.340 lack of understanding of how government works. And I would be very worried if I was a member
00:11:11.280 on that committee. Congressman Garcia appearing Saturday at Crooked Media's Crooked Con conference,
00:11:17.280 warning that even former Trump administration officials could face investigations.
00:11:22.700 Just because you're Kimberly Goldfoyle or you're Kristi Noem or you're Pam Bondi
00:11:26.920 and you're no longer in office, that doesn't mean that we're still not interested
00:11:32.120 in accountability for all of your crimes and grift.
00:11:35.660 We're not going to forget, like, we can't forget about these folks that are causing harm.
00:11:42.040 Like, you know, I think it's like, I mean, maybe it's because I'm like, I'm gay,
00:11:46.760 but like, you know, like, pettiness is a thing. Like, I'm mad. Democrats also facing growing
00:11:53.880 pressure to pursue impeachment proceedings. House Democrat leader Hakeem Jeffries throwing his
00:11:59.160 support behind the effort to impeach Secretary of War Pete Hegseth, telling ABC yesterday that he is
00:12:04.660 a, quote, hard yes on that issue. Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont warning that Democrats cannot
00:12:10.620 afford to spend the next two years consumed by investigations into President Trump. Do we want
00:12:16.460 to hold the Trump administration accountable for their corruption, for their illegal,
00:12:21.480 unconstitutional actions? Absolutely. But at the end of the day, when you got the highest rate of
00:12:27.580 childhood poverty in America of any major country, when 20 percent of our seniors are trying to
00:12:32.740 survive on $15,000 a year, we cannot spend all of our time investigating Trump. We got to stand up
00:12:38.640 for working-class families, make a real difference in their lives.
00:12:45.180 Coming up, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer insisting he will remain the chamber's top
00:12:50.000 Democrat, despite several newly elected senators calling for a change in leadership. And the
00:12:55.800 grieving father of the young co-pilot killed in last weekend's deadly Learjet crash, pushing back
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00:14:27.120 Senate Democrat leader Chuck Schumer facing resistance within his own party
00:14:33.180 as he prepares to reclaim the majority leader's position. Democrats capturing control of the
00:14:38.280 Senate in last week's midterm elections, flipping at least seven Republican-held seats and securing
00:14:43.580 a majority of at least 54 members. Senator Schumer taking credit for helping engineer
00:14:48.960 those victories, expressing confidence that his colleagues will keep him in charge when
00:14:53.500 the new Congress convenes in January. Speaking to reporters Wednesday, Mr. Schumer brushing
00:14:58.260 aside questions about newly elected senators who have publicly vowed to oppose him.
00:15:03.300 How do you deal with those candidates who won, who said they're not going to vote for you? Adam
00:15:06.840 Hamilton, Troy Jackson. Again, to repeat the answer, the issue is not me. I'll be reelected
00:15:13.960 as majority leader. But the issue is focusing on the American people and what they want.
00:15:21.900 The senator telling The New York Times he does not expect to face any opposition,
00:15:26.740 arguing his caucus is united following its election victories.
00:15:30.600 Still, several incoming senators are withholding their support,
00:15:34.080 including Senator-elect Abdul El-Sayed of Michigan,
00:15:37.420 who has openly discussed supporting a different candidate, El-Sayed yesterday on ABC.
00:15:43.200 A vote is a choice between two or more options. I don't know what those options are.
00:15:47.060 I want to support somebody who is ready to take action on day one.
00:15:51.620 I have not been impressed by what we've been able to do. Let's see where we can go from here.
00:15:55.700 We may very well have a 56 seat majority that is unprecedented. So if we squander that opportunity, it'll have been wasted.
00:16:03.320 We've got to treat this as the floor, not the ceiling. And the question to me is, who wants to be the leader who's going to make sure that we deliver on the mandate that we just got?
00:16:11.080 I want to see who else is in the running. I have been very, very committed to somebody like Senator Chris Van Hollen, who I know has his eyes set on other goals. But let's see.
00:16:20.480 That potential alternative, Senator Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, has also joined the calls
00:16:25.860 for Democrats to reconsider their leadership. Speaking at Crooked Media's conference in
00:16:31.080 Washington Saturday, Senator Van Hollen arguing Mr. Schumer should not be handed the position
00:16:36.240 without first explaining how he intends to use the party's new powers.
00:16:40.740 Mr. Van Hollen, however, telling CNN that running for a majority leader is not his focus.
00:16:46.260 Another potential contender, Senator Alyssa Slotkin of Michigan,
00:16:50.000 who has repeatedly called for a new generation of Democrat leaders, 1.00
00:16:53.980 you know, the kind like she is,
00:16:55.880 who want to go after young teenagers who volunteer to work for President Trump.
00:17:00.300 Senator Slotkin declining to endorse Schumer during the same conference
00:17:03.360 and not ruling out running herself.
00:17:06.260 Are you planning to vote for Chuck Schumer to be the Senate Majority Leader?
00:17:11.220 Well, look, I've been very vocal that I think we need a new generation of leadership.
00:17:20.440 If he wants to be a majority leader, what is your plan for the first 100 days?
00:17:25.940 You sure sound like you have ideas about what a majority leader is to do.
00:17:28.740 Why don't you run for Senate Majority Leader?
00:17:30.580 Well, look, I think we're quite literally on text chains right now,
00:17:33.940 still counting the votes in Alaska and Mississippi.
00:17:36.740 But I think this is like it's an open field.
00:17:38.940 And I think those conversations are happening rapidly.
00:17:43.480 The resistance extending to several other Democrats who helped deliver the party's unexpected Senate majority.
00:17:49.880 Among them, Kansas Senator-elect Adam Hamilton, becoming the first Dem elected to the Senate from his state since 1932.
00:17:57.380 A former Republican, Mr. Hamilton, campaigning as a moderate, focused on bipartisanship, telling NBC yesterday why he believes Democrats need a new leader.
00:18:06.620 I mean, no disrespect for Chuck Schumer.
00:18:08.500 I just really don't. And I've told him that as well. But I think at least where I live in Kansas, he's a kind of polarizing figure. So again, no disrespect for Chuck Schumer, just it feels like there's time for it is a time for fresh and new ideas and somebody who can unite us instead of dividing us.
00:18:25.060 Hamilton joining incoming senators Troy Jackson of Maine, Annie Andrews of South Carolina and Peggy Flanagan of Minnesota in calling for new leadership.
00:18:33.260 The father of the 20-year-old co-pilot killed in last weekend's deadly Learjet crash in Florida
00:18:41.900 speaking out, defending his daughter's qualifications and praising her courage
00:18:46.440 in the final moments of the doomed flight. Alan Filgueiras, holding an emotional press
00:18:52.340 conference Friday in Coral Gables, Florida, pushing back against criticism directed at
00:18:57.280 his daughter Natalia after recordings of her final communications with air traffic control
00:19:02.280 circulated widely online. The Learjet traveling from Texas to the Bahamas when it encountered
00:19:07.780 severe thunderstorms over Florida, Natalia reporting ice accumulating on the aircraft
00:19:13.520 and turbulence so intense the plane was being tossed up and down by as much as 700 feet.
00:19:19.620 Natalia maintaining remarkable composure as she radioed air traffic controllers,
00:19:24.600 declaring an emergency. We're descending 8,000, Mayday, Mayday. We're descending 10,000 feet
00:19:29.440 per minute. We are in an overseas condition, descending 20,000 feet per minute. We're going
00:19:35.120 to crash into the ground, 733 Baba Delta. We are descending 22,000 feet, and we are banking 60 1.00
00:19:42.460 degrees. The harrowing recordings going viral in the aftermath of the crash, fueling speculation
00:19:49.340 about what went wrong, and leading to criticism by some of the young co-pilot's experience.
00:19:55.200 Some questioning whether a 20-year-old woman had enough experience to be in the cockpit
00:19:59.180 of a private jet. Her father and his attorney, Stuart Grossman, pushing back against that,
00:20:05.280 arguing that Natalia had earned her position through years of rigorous training. Despite
00:20:09.860 her young age, Natalia, accumulating more than 1,300 hours of flight experience, and according
00:20:15.360 to her attorney, consistently finishing at the top of her class. Her passion for aviation beginning
00:20:21.220 at just 12 years old, when her father first introduced her to flying. By 17, she had earned
00:20:26.820 her private pilot's license before she even had a driver's license. Eventually, Natalia becoming
00:20:32.080 an instructor herself, even putting her father, a fellow pilot, through challenging flight exercises
00:20:37.540 to sharpen his skills. For Natalia, flying, becoming more than a career, her father recalling
00:20:44.040 just how much she loved being in the cockpit. You know, she said, Dad, can you believe, can you
00:20:51.280 believe that I would pay for this, but they're actually paying me, you know? I would pay for
00:20:57.580 this, but I'm actually getting paid. So it was her happiest moment to fly.
00:21:05.000 Fulgeris describing his daughter as his soulmate and recalling the agony of knowing she was
00:21:10.520 fighting for her life in the cockpit while he could do nothing to help. After listening to
00:21:15.180 her final radio transmissions repeatedly, the grieving father finding pride in the
00:21:20.300 determination he heard in her voice. She made me so proud. She showed me what it is to be a hero
00:21:28.060 because once you see that coming, a lot of the big boys, military or whatever, they can't handle.
00:21:37.960 And she was the one over there to the last minute fighting. And I did listen to that
00:21:45.900 many times, trying to find a clue in my head how that happened. And wow, she's tough.
00:21:57.020 The National Transportation Safety Board still investigating what caused the crash,
00:22:02.060 recovering pieces of the jet's tail nearly four miles from the impact site. Investigators
00:22:07.220 confirming that portions of the aircraft broke apart in midair, but have not determined whether
00:22:12.120 that contributed to the crash or happened as the plane was already plunging toward the ground.
00:22:17.680 Grossman stressing the family has not filed a lawsuit or accused anyone of wrongdoing,
00:22:22.520 explaining they intend to review the NTSB's findings before determining
00:22:26.280 whether to pursue legal action. The crash also claiming the lives of Captain Jeff Gregory and
00:22:32.380 seven passengers, including Austin technology entrepreneur Adam Robinson, his wife Helen
00:22:38.100 Sharp, their two young children, the family's nanny, and two close friends.
00:22:44.540 And that'll do it for your AM Update. I'm Megan Kelly. Join me back here for the MK Show,
00:22:49.380 live on SiriusXM's The Megan Kelly Channel, 111 at noon east,
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