The Megyn Kelly Show - Dems Call Anti-ICE Riots “Peaceful,” and ABC Suspends Journalist for Trump Tweet, with Charlie Kirk

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00:00:31.200 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:42.600 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:45.920 We begin today with breaking news out of Los Angeles,

00:00:48.460 where the nation's second largest city has descended into chaos,

00:00:52.880 with riots for the third straight night causing massive destruction by lighting cars on fire,

00:00:58.860 destroying property, and attacking law enforcement.

00:01:01.980 All this ostensibly to voice opposition to recent arrests of people who have broken the law.

00:01:11.540 Illegal immigrants who may just be illegals and may have committed other crimes.

00:01:16.740 In most instances, what we're finding on these arrests is, well, some 118 of them have committed

00:01:22.540 the most heinous crimes one can commit in this country.

00:01:26.120 So you'd think that the Angelenos, the mayor keeps talking about,

00:01:31.320 would really like these people to be removed,

00:01:33.860 but she and her governor appear to be on their side and not on the side of law enforcement.

00:01:39.860 Here are some of the scenes of the last three days.

00:02:09.860 It's total bedlam for the listening audience. It's total. There, there's some absolute

00:02:24.380 asshole standing there throwing large rocks at full force at cars as they speed by. I mean,

00:02:33.060 you literally could kill somebody doing that. And there are multiple instances of people behaving

00:02:38.480 exactly this way in a depraved manner. You would be charged with murder. If that person went off

00:02:46.040 the road and had an accident and somebody died, it's absurd what they've, what they're allowing,

00:02:51.500 what they're allowing in Los Angeles. The Trump administration has ramped up immigration

00:02:57.100 enforcement in the city. As I mentioned, they've announced 118 arrests of illegals last week,

00:03:03.120 including those, most of them, I believe with criminal histories. In addition to breaking

00:03:08.220 the immigration laws that include second degree murder, like murder, it's a problem,

00:03:13.520 drug trafficking. Of course, these guys always have crimes against children. They're big fans of

00:03:19.360 exploiting, raping, molesting children as a rule. If you're going to go collect some huge group of

00:03:26.940 illegal immigrants here on Tom Homan's watch, the odds are you're going to find child sexual predators.

00:03:32.580 Again, keep that in mind as we get to the Los Angeles mayor's reaction.

00:03:38.040 The demonstrations began on Friday after ICE officers executed multiple search warrants

00:03:43.580 at workplaces, including a clothing warehouse in the city's fashion district with protesters

00:03:50.280 attempting to block the agents from doing their jobs. The same day, hundreds of protesters gathering

00:03:56.340 around a federal building after rumors that authorities were holding detainees in the basement of that

00:04:01.480 building. DHS officers fired pepper balls at the protesters before the LAPD dispersed the crowd,

00:04:09.320 acting ICE director Todd Lyons saying it looked or it took the LAPD two hours to respond. I mean,

00:04:16.440 why? What's happening in city after city is they're letting the looters have their fun because they think

00:04:24.260 it's better not to escalate. It's the same thing as we've been seeing at CVS's since BLM. Remember,

00:04:32.460 there was that viral video of the CVS clerk actually trying to enforce the anti-shoplifting laws,

00:04:39.300 meaning theft laws. And that person got blowback because the people who were looting or stealing

00:04:44.800 from the CVS in that case happened to be black. And now you have to get a CVS attendant to get deodorant

00:04:51.720 out of the locked shelf because it's considered escalation if you involve the police when someone's

00:04:58.660 breaking the law. Only now it's spread to actual cops not doing their jobs because cops doing what

00:05:06.220 cops are supposed to do is an escalation. All right, on Saturday, the situation got even worse.

00:05:13.480 The protests spreading to nearby Paramount and Compton, California. We just talked about this video,

00:05:20.100 but we need to reshow it. Look at this. You see a man picking up heavy rocks and whipping them at

00:05:25.700 drivers inside federal vehicles as they drive by. This is attempted murder. Look at this.

00:05:33.000 The depravity to human life is, I don't know, is it stunning? I don't know what it is. It's stomach

00:05:38.820 turning. He did it over and over and over with some of the vehicles trying to swerve to get out of the

00:05:43.940 way. This isn't the presidential motorcade with the beast. They don't have bulletproof

00:05:47.860 glass on the front of those trucks. These guys are there trying to keep these assholes safe.

00:05:54.940 In this video, a man riding a motorcycle, look at this guy, around a burning car while holding up

00:06:02.220 the Mexican flag. Has there ever been a better picture of what we're up against? A lot of the

00:06:08.220 protesters carried Mexican flags with them. Go home. You love Mexico so much.

00:06:13.760 Adios. Get out. Literally, what are you doing? Why are you here? Get out. What other country in

00:06:22.380 the world would stand for this BS? You come here, in most cases, illegally. You set our things on fire.

00:06:30.320 You threaten our law enforcement agents. And then you want to parade around with your flag like

00:06:35.280 that's the be all in. Then go home. Get out. Go make your living home in Mexico. We won't miss you.

00:06:41.500 They don't want you either, but that shouldn't be our problem. Get out. I think Americans are sick of

00:06:48.220 this. They're sick of this BS. Why do we have to live with these people? They don't assimilate.

00:06:53.720 They don't like or respect our way of life. They feel entitled to be here, to our public benefits,

00:07:01.140 to health care. We're supposed to take care of them as they burn our cities and harass our cops.

00:07:09.020 Waving your Mexican flag, then get out. You love Mexico so much. Go back to it.

00:07:15.080 All this, not surprisingly, was enough for President Trump to take action. And thank God,

00:07:21.600 issuing a directive to send in 2000 members of the National Guard to protect ICE agents and restore

00:07:28.500 order. Why didn't you do that, Governor Newsom? Why didn't Karen Bass mobilize the LAPD to protect

00:07:37.620 ICE agents and restore order? Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth also putting the Marines

00:07:42.680 at nearby Camp Pendleton on, quote, high alert if the violence continues, some 500 of them

00:07:47.860 by latest reports. Rather than expressing thanks for the help, Governor Gavin Newsom called sending in

00:07:56.540 the National Guard, quote, purposefully inflammatory, and said that Secretary of Defense Hegseth's threat

00:08:03.260 to send in the Marines was, quote, deranged behavior. But President Trump says this is about

00:08:08.840 law and order. Watch. What is the bar for sending Marines? The bar is what I think it is. I mean,

00:08:15.380 if we see danger to our country and to our citizens, we'll be very, very strong in terms of law and order.

00:08:21.040 It's about law and order. Governor Newsom has now formally requested that Mr. Trump

00:08:25.760 pull out the National Guard troops. It's unbelievable here. He says he'll sue. He's going to sue if Trump

00:08:33.200 doesn't. Because Newsom says this is not about immigration enforcement. It's about Trump's, quote,

00:08:38.940 authoritarian tendencies. Here's what he told MSNBC last night. Watch.

00:08:44.300 All of this is about immigration enforcement and the type of... Well, go ahead. Feel free to speak.

00:08:51.600 No, I mean, I don't mean even to cut you off. I think it's about something much more.

00:08:55.260 This is about authoritarian tendencies. This is about command and control. This is about power. This

00:09:00.800 is about ego. My way or the highway. This is a consistent pattern of practice of recklessness.

00:09:08.380 This guy has abandoned the core principles of this great democracy. He's threatening to go after

00:09:17.960 judges he disagrees with, cut off funding to institutions of higher learning. He's on a

00:09:23.220 cultural binge. He's rewriting history, censoring historical facts. I mean, this is something

00:09:31.320 completely different. And this is part of that ongoing play that is unfolding in front of our

00:09:39.700 eyes. It is a serious moment under the guise of immigration, but it's much deeper than that.

00:09:45.280 Of course, giving an interview to NBC's Jacob Soboroff, who also has spent the past eight years

00:09:50.300 running cover for illegals. Very, very concerned about children of illegals being separated from their

00:09:57.720 families under President Trump, under President Biden, did not appear to give two shits about it.

00:10:02.980 I didn't see the lead NBC News report last week, as we heard about the number of them who are now being

00:10:11.000 found in the hands of the so-called sponsors the Biden administration found for them, who are molesting

00:10:16.920 them. See, Jacob Soboroff, in my opinion, only cares about the illegal children when it can hurt

00:10:23.400 President Trump. Then it's helpful to him. But if President Biden placed them in danger

00:10:28.200 intentionally, who would give them to sponsors who had not been vetted, who are single men,

00:10:34.380 who are also illegals? Does that sound like a good idea to anybody? NBC loses interest.

00:10:39.820 President Trump has said officials will face charges if they get in the way of law and order.

00:10:45.660 Governor Newsom, who landed last night in L.A. to manage the response to the riots.

00:10:50.120 Nice to finally see you, sir. Great. It's been going on for days.

00:10:54.420 Also had a message for border czar Tom Holman. Watch.

00:10:58.800 Get your hands off these poor people. They're just trying to live their lives, man.

00:11:03.220 Trying to live their lives, paying their taxes. Been here 10 years. The fear, the horror. The hell is

00:11:09.440 this guy? Come after me. Arrest me. Let's just get it over with. Tough guy. You know, I don't give a

00:11:15.640 damn. But I care about my community. I care about this community. The hell are they doing? These guys

00:11:21.700 need to grow up. They need to stop. And we need to push back. And I'm sorry to be so clear, but

00:11:27.160 that kind of bloviating is exhausting. So Tom, arrest me. Let's go.

00:11:32.180 He's such an actor. I mean, he's like, that man doesn't have a sincere bone in his body. He's such

00:11:39.380 an actor. The hell are they doing? I'm like, what? Okay. Tough guy. He's got like Matthew

00:11:46.580 McConaughey vibes. And I don't mean that flatteringly. Kamala Harris, because of course everybody was

00:11:53.700 wondering, what does Kamala Harris think? I can't think of a subject on which I would actually ask

00:12:01.240 myself that question. Maybe when somebody tried out a crappy Jamaican accent, like I might be

00:12:06.200 interested. When somebody used the phrase duality or unburdened by what has been, she might come to

00:12:12.120 mind like, hmm, that's it. Not here. But she's decided to be Chief Angeleno. She's an L.A. resident

00:12:21.580 speaking out, saying the ICE arrests are, quote, part of the Trump administration's cruel calculated

00:12:27.280 agenda to spread panic and division. Trump is the one responsible for division out there in L.A.

00:12:37.140 Okay. He's trying to get rid of criminals so that your children and mine don't have to grow up in

00:12:46.580 cities like L.A., where they're running around behaving criminally with impunity. She claimed the

00:12:54.060 National Guard deployment, quote, is a dangerous escalation meant to provoke chaos. And she called

00:12:59.860 the protests, of course, this is the cherry on top of the sundae, overwhelmingly peaceful, overwhelmingly

00:13:06.640 peaceful. There is a line after like car after car after car that has been set on fire. They are

00:13:16.480 literally launching commercial grade fireworks at law enforcement. That's according to the L.A.

00:13:24.500 police chief. Overwhelmingly peaceful. Tell it to the cop who gets hit in the heart by a commercial

00:13:31.380 grade firework. You cretin. Similarly, Spartacus, Cory Booker, as of yesterday, was still calling protests,

00:13:38.480 quote, peaceful. Elizabeth Warren, chief lies a lot, was still talking about the right to peacefully

00:13:44.200 protest. I mean, she does. She lies a lot. She's doing it right here. Does this look peaceful?

00:13:48.660 Look at your screen. Okay. This all happened yesterday. Just watch this. For the listening

00:13:53.520 audience, you have around 2000 anti ice rioters who took over the L.A. one on one, the freeway,

00:14:01.760 causing the road to be shut down for over an hour before police could disperse the crowd. Here's video

00:14:07.540 of protesters throwing objects at California highway patrol vehicles from an overpass. Do you know

00:14:14.660 how dangerous this is? This is you are asking for people to die. This is lethal behavior, a total

00:14:23.500 disregard for law enforcement, for life. LAPD's police chief saying about the riots, quote, we are

00:14:32.160 overwhelmed. Okay, we're overwhelmed. But you've got Harris and Newsom ripping on Trump. He's trying

00:14:39.460 to sow chaos. This wasn't necessary. We had it. We had it in hand. Your police chief says you're

00:14:45.440 overwhelmed. He's overwhelmed. The cops there are overwhelmed. They're facing a lethal threat and

00:14:52.000 getting no help. That video, by the way, was taken by Cam Higbee, a local freelance reporter on the scene

00:14:56.860 who's been providing invaluable updates over the weekend. Go Cam. Riders also targeting these Waymo

00:15:04.040 self-driving taxis owned by Google's parent company, smashing their windows. Okay, great. I mean, remember,

00:15:11.680 we're not supposed to care about destruction of property. We learned that during BLM. You're not

00:15:16.460 allowed to care. If it's just a car or a building or a storefront that's actually owned by a live

00:15:22.600 human. Well, it doesn't matter. You're not allowed to care or you're a racist. Lighting them all on

00:15:27.280 fire. Unbelievable. A spokesperson for Waymo says the company cut off service to the area. Cool. Good

00:15:34.440 call. And is removing vehicles from the streets due to all the destruction. Look at this photo. This

00:15:42.160 sums up everything. You listening audience, you got to go 10 minutes into the show and look at this on

00:15:47.760 YouTube. It sums up the whole thing. A rioter smashing one of these Waymo cars while another

00:15:52.960 burns nearby with other protesters in the background where the Mexican flag can be seen. And the person

00:15:59.240 on top of the car is shirtless with some sort of a bizarre S&M looking mask. I don't, I'm not sure

00:16:06.940 what's going on here. I think we're working through a lot of people's fetishes, damaged childhoods,

00:16:12.700 and those childhoods more often than not, were probably in Mexico. Here to help break it all

00:16:18.760 down, founder and CEO of Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action, host of the Charlie Kirk show,

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00:17:46.960 unbelievable. Your thoughts? Thank you. It truly is. Wonderful open, by the way, Megan. Very, very

00:17:52.520 powerful stuff. And I completely agree. If you're going to come to America and you're going to fly a

00:17:58.460 foreign flag while you are burning cars, assaulting police officers, and thwarting immigration

00:18:04.140 enforcement, the most moderate solution to all this is deportation. And understand this, that it's so

00:18:11.360 funny when you hear them, they're like, well, these are wonderful people. Don't you understand?

00:18:15.160 They're just trying to pay their taxes. If they were wonderful people, why is all of a sudden we

00:18:19.380 have all this violence everywhere? Why are we seeing widespread arson and widespread destruction?

00:18:25.720 Understand this. California has had this pent up problem for quite some time, and only President

00:18:30.060 Trump has the moral courage to go about and face it and to fix it. In California, one in four people

00:18:37.520 in California were born outside of the United States. That doesn't mean they're all illegal.

00:18:41.760 I'm just saying that one in four people in California were born outside of the United States,

00:18:45.680 the highest of any in the country. And these are riots. They are not protests. We must be very clear

00:18:52.700 with our language. When you start burning police vehicles and Waymo vehicles, when you start,

00:18:56.840 as you aptly put, launching rocks and boulders at police officers in an attempt to get them killed.

00:19:04.840 And the media is at it again. They're saying, well, these are mostly peaceful protests

00:19:08.240 as Los Angeles is under siege. And the final point on this that I want to make, which I think is

00:19:14.660 very important, which a lot of Republicans currently do not have the stomach for mass deportations.

00:19:21.680 I think that is changing, Megan. I think this display, even though it is egregious and it is

00:19:27.120 infuriating and it is maddening, I think it's also motivating them. I think this is going to build

00:19:32.400 consensus for Trump's big, beautiful bill. I think that this shows that we need more ICE officers,

00:19:37.380 that we need to secure and strengthen our southern border, that we cannot allow a foreign power

00:19:43.120 to come onto our turf and basically taunt us. That's what we were seeing, Megan.

00:19:48.060 We were seeing the taunting of invaders and foreign nationals who leech off of welfare and

00:19:54.420 leech in our school system and flood our hospital system. And we have a big heart in this country,

00:19:59.360 and we should never stop having a big heart and helping those in need. What you saw there,

00:20:04.020 Megan, they're not in need. They're driving around with $30,000 motorcycles,

00:20:08.600 lighting police officer vehicles on fire. These are not the downtrodden or the sojourner of South

00:20:15.060 and Central America. There's something much more sinister going on here, and we're going to take

00:20:19.300 back the country. And praise God, President Trump is at the helm to do just that.

00:20:23.580 Yes, I look at this and I think all I want to hear from Karen Bass is thank you and I'm sorry.

00:20:30.360 But instead, this is what we're hearing from the L.A. mayor, who already has utterly failed her city

00:20:36.180 as she sat there watching it burn from Africa. But now she says she senses a political opportunity to

00:20:43.220 be opposed to Trump, even though he's trying to keep people safe. And here's what she said in SOT 12.

00:20:49.980 We are going to fight for all Angelenos, regardless of when they got here, whether they have papers or

00:20:56.820 not. We are a city of immigrants, and this impacts hundreds of thousands of Angelenos.

00:21:04.780 We're going to fight for all Angelenos.

00:21:06.860 How is whether they have papers? People are killed. Their children are getting molested.

00:21:12.980 No, it's just as if this is some sort of clerical error, Megan, whether they have papers or not.

00:21:18.460 Yeah, that's right. It's just some administrative error. We lost we lost your your form in the mail.

00:21:24.240 No, no, no. They're illegal. The DMV. They're in violation. Yes, exactly.

00:21:28.340 They're in violation of eight U.S.C. 1312 in addition to many other federal laws.

00:21:33.000 But here's what I find most fascinating is that Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom, you could tell that

00:21:38.780 they're being held hostage by a force. We don't quite know what this force is, but it is the power

00:21:44.660 of intersectionality. If you look at some of these riots, yes, we have kind of the cartel

00:21:49.440 Villa Raza types. They want open borders. They want occupation. They want destruction. But you've also

00:21:56.640 started to see another type of force and political dynamic pop up in these protests, which is you are

00:22:03.580 starting to see the Palestinian Gaza headwear start to pop open, right? As if that's what this is all

00:22:09.640 about, right? Somehow this is about Gaza. They'll make it about Gaza. And then thirdly, you start to

00:22:14.320 see the white liberal. All of a sudden, you're starting to see a bunch of white liberals show up

00:22:17.320 because, you know, they need purpose in their life. They don't go to church. They're not getting

00:22:20.220 married. They don't have kids. So they need something to keep them going. And boy, they're bringing the band

00:22:24.500 back together after the summer of love in 2020. So did someone say that we're burning a Wendy's

00:22:28.800 tonight? Count me in. And all of a sudden, they start mobilizing. And that trifecta of a political

00:22:33.500 force obviously is bigger than we have realized, because any leader who cares about their people

00:22:40.760 would stand up to this group of bandits and this mob that is engulfing Los Angeles yet again.

00:22:48.820 Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass, they feel as if they have an obligation to the law,

00:22:54.500 they have an obligation to this insurgency. And it is very revealing that the base of the

00:23:01.660 Democrat Party, not some sort of fringe element, but the base, the fundamental ingredient of the

00:23:07.280 Democrat Party is street violence. I wish it wasn't that case, Megan, because she should be saying,

00:23:13.520 we want LAPD. We're going to go after these riots. Thank you for sending in the National Guard.

00:23:18.160 Instead, she's acting like it's a paperwork error. Gavin Newsom is suing President Trump.

00:23:22.760 Again, he should be saying, thank you, President Trump, for sending the Marines and sending the

00:23:26.380 federal government. Instead, we are seeing two high profile political leaders pander to the most

00:23:32.840 sinister and dark elements of the Democrat Party. I want to make sure I get this in so I don't forget

00:23:36.680 it. Under no circumstances, I'm calling the shot right now, should Los Angeles be allowed to host the

00:23:42.120 2028 Olympics, period. Hard stop. We should pull it. It should go to some other American city,

00:23:48.060 go to Dallas, go to Miami, go anywhere but L.A. But if you cannot put out fires while you

00:23:53.620 intentionally ignore them and you elevate DEI, you know, fire practices over the well-being of your

00:23:59.780 citizens. And if you basically cheer on the incineration of your city, that is a mockery.

00:24:05.340 It should not be put on the world's display under any circumstances whatsoever.

00:24:09.760 Yes. I mean, I there we're looking at a very powerful set of pictures here of Los Angeles

00:24:15.820 burning and the Mexican flag everywhere. I mean, it's really crazy how emboldened they are to fly

00:24:20.660 their Mexican flag. What are they doing here? What? Why are they here? Because they want to take

00:24:25.520 advantage of our dollars, our economy and our health care and other public benefits that they get.

00:24:34.920 That we're giving them. So it's like they're on the public dole, most of them. And we're fine with

00:24:40.240 that, apparently, or at least Californians seem to be. But they hate us. They want they actually

00:24:44.920 miss Mexico. We'll go home. It's like two hours by car at most. You're good. It's so easy for you to

00:24:50.360 go back home to the people you seem to love so much. And so here's another sample, just because I love

00:24:56.480 the sound that shows you how people are feeling. This is California representative Norma Torres,

00:25:02.200 who it's it's it's quick, but she's got thoughts on ICE coming in to try to clean up her city.

00:25:08.120 SOT 11. I skip a fuck out of L.A. so that order can be stored.

00:25:16.200 OK, get the out. Right. Elected representative of the people. Right. This is what they want. So

00:25:22.960 this is how all the left is going to paint this, you know, from Karen Bass to Gavin Newsom to this

00:25:27.540 nutcase Norma Torres and beyond, because we're already seeing federal officials like senators

00:25:32.460 weigh in on this as it's it's President Trump who's over the top with his knee jerk authoritarian

00:25:40.340 response. The New York Times today with a similar sort of take. Hold on. I want to find it.

00:25:46.900 They wrote as follows. Trump invoked this rarely used provision of the U.S. code. No one can argue

00:25:53.160 it's not legal because it's very clearly legal what he's doing. They say he can do it if there's

00:25:57.660 a rebellion against the authority of the government of the United States, which is the federal

00:26:01.140 government, which is what Trump's saying we're seeing here. No such rebellions underway, says

00:26:05.720 the Times. As the governor, spokesman and others have noted, Americans in cities routinely cause

00:26:10.980 more property damage after their sports teams win or lose. Trump's idea of law and order is

00:26:16.000 strong handed disproportionate intervention that adds chaos, anxiety and risk to already tense

00:26:22.620 situations. That's going to be the left wing line on it. We've heard a couple people make that point

00:26:27.740 about looks like an Eagles game, you know, the aftermath of an Eagles game. I my husband's an Eagles

00:26:33.700 fan. We always laugh at the and also roll our eyes at the over the top behavior after the Eagles games.

00:26:40.780 I don't remember anyone trying to kill police officers and law enforcement as they just drove

00:26:47.120 their cars by like car after car, throwing dangerous materials over the overpass at them

00:26:53.260 directly with full force as they pass or commercial grade fireworks at their bodies that I don't recall

00:26:59.620 that. No, not at all. And this is, of course, they're trying to minimize it. And it's that old

00:27:07.680 celebration parallax, right, that Michael Anton instructed us, who's phenomenal. It's not happening,

00:27:14.360 but it's good that it is. So it's not happening that they're burning down the city, but it's good

00:27:18.840 that it is because it's about time that someone fights back against Trump. You're like, wait a second,

00:27:22.880 I thought you just said it wasn't happening. They're going to try to make the spread to cities

00:27:26.800 across. No, exactly. They're going to try to make the spread to cities across the country.

00:27:30.980 And this is a reaction to a couple of things. Of course, the beginning of mass deportations,

00:27:36.260 and you better believe we're only going to ratchet up more. We're going to go into more

00:27:39.580 neighborhoods. We're going to find more criminal gang bangers. We're going to find more cartel

00:27:43.560 members because it looks like we're barely touching the surface. Based on what we saw yesterday,

00:27:47.740 we are barely touching the surface. But number two, and I think this is very important,

00:27:53.100 Claudia Steinman Steinbaum. Yeah, the Steinbaum, the president of Mexico. Yeah, that's right.

00:27:59.480 Yeah. She said the big, beautiful bill needs massive, widespread response that we're going to

00:28:05.600 activate in America. Interesting. It's funny that a president of a foreign nation is able to activate

00:28:11.320 sleeper cells in our country because in the big, beautiful bill is a tax on remittances.

00:28:17.540 Understand that remittances are tens of billions of dollars a year, which is people that come to the

00:28:22.680 United States illegally. They'll work and steal jobs from native born Americans, send back money from

00:28:28.620 America to Mexico, basically in a parasitic type relationship. We're going to extract money from

00:28:34.800 America and send it to Mexico. And they know that this is a major part of the Mexican economy. And finally,

00:28:42.400 the big, beautiful bill is going to tax that. Sorry, if you're here illegally and you're going to send

00:28:47.600 money back to Mexico, we're not going to put up with that. But look, why are they here, Megan? Why is it that

00:28:53.360 they're waving the Mexican flag? It's not because they love America. They care about our values. They don't believe in

00:28:58.960 e pluribus unum or liberty. They don't know Thomas Jefferson from George Washington. They're here for one reason,

00:29:04.620 because we're rich. That's it. It's because we're rich and we're suckers. That's it. We have a wealthy nation that was

00:29:11.560 and we are suckers that just keep on writing checks. And again, we're a generous nation. We're a Christian nation. We should

00:29:19.400 continue to be those things. But nowhere does it say in the scriptures should you allow yourself to be

00:29:24.900 repeatedly taken advantage of while you are mocked and while they are taunting you for taking money from

00:29:32.240 you and taking treasure while your own people are suffering in great measure and great number. And so

00:29:38.040 this really is a early moment with very powerful aesthetics and visuals and optics that shows the two

00:29:45.040 camps in this country. One wants law, order and a prioritization of American citizens first. The

00:29:51.500 other is an open border criminal first type agenda that prioritizes arson and the disorder deconstruction

00:29:59.620 of the United States of America. And you finally have a president who's going to fight back against

00:30:04.440 this. Trump is saying this is not going to happen. We're not letting this go like this is not going to

00:30:09.380 be another BLM 2020 situation. Correct. We are going to make sure that we take a handle on these

00:30:14.780 things and you're not going to be permitted to come into this country and cause damage to our law

00:30:19.420 enforcement, cause damage to our property and get away with it. Here you've said twice now that this

00:30:24.220 is going to spread and that's what the Democrats want. And we actually have proof of that. Here's

00:30:30.020 Democratic Senator Chris Murphy yesterday from or maybe is it today? It's today on Morning Joe this

00:30:38.740 morning. Take a listen. I saw this. Yeah. My first message is to keep it peaceful. I mean,

00:30:43.500 obviously this is a moment where we have to be on the streets all over the country to protest what's

00:30:47.940 happening to our immigrant community, but more broadly to protest what's happening to our

00:30:52.400 democracy. This is the most corrupt administration in the history of the country. And we are going to

00:30:58.160 rise to this moment by being out there on the streets. There's nothing in what he is doing that

00:31:03.060 is about peace or about restoring order. And he's trying to turn a protest that is pretty small

00:31:08.500 into something that involves an even bigger confrontation so that he might actually be

00:31:12.980 able to invoke the insurrection act. So he wants more. They get away. They say we,

00:31:18.000 well, we want it to be peaceful, but he knows very well how it will go if we get more.

00:31:22.920 Yeah, of course. And that's why I fully support president Trump meeting it at the intensity that

00:31:28.340 it's at. I think we should be unafraid to sign the 1807 insurrection act. If this continues,

00:31:32.740 we cannot allow what happened in 2020 where we said, well, you know, local state officials,

00:31:37.340 nope, not going to happen. We are going to meet force with force. You're going after police officers.

00:31:41.780 We'll bring in the national guard. We'll bring in the Marines. If you remember the 1992 may of

00:31:46.100 1992, Rodney King riots, they were engulfing Los Angeles, HW Bush signs the insurrection act

00:31:52.260 within like half an hour, all of those thugs and all of those bandits went home and scattered

00:31:58.660 because they, they were met with the one thing they understand. The only thing that what you are

00:32:03.480 seeing on the streets right now, they understand it's not reason. It's not persuasion. It's not

00:32:08.180 acquiescence. It's not surrender. It is force. That's it. They need to see a stronger hand than

00:32:14.800 that they have. And unfortunately there is an underbelly of America that wants to see the world

00:32:20.920 burn. Like Joker said in the dark night, some people just want to watch the world burn. That is the

00:32:27.040 Democrat party. They've never had gratitude for America. They've never loved our history.

00:32:31.720 They've never loved our culture, our institutions. I'm not saying every Democrat in the country

00:32:36.120 believes this. I'm not even saying every Democrat politician does. I am saying this though,

00:32:40.240 that ideology is holding the entire Democrat party hostage. As you can see, it is dominant.

00:32:45.740 And in LA, one of the, once one of the greatest cities in America is a captured and a fallen place.

00:32:51.640 I'm confident that we can liberate it because I actually believe deep down,

00:32:54.740 the vast majority of America is so on board with president Trump is doing.

00:32:59.200 It's one of the reasons why he won a popular vote majority. This is why he won electoral vote

00:33:02.720 landslide. One of the major fundamental reasons is that president Trump was standing up against

00:33:08.940 these elements of darkness. People want deportations. They want these criminals and these thugs out of

00:33:14.400 the country. And again, if all the people that we were deporting were just, you know, nuns at the

00:33:20.080 local Catholic church, then we wouldn't be seeing what we're seeing in the streets. Instead,

00:33:24.540 it shows that there's a widespread, well-connected and fierce network of criminals that we must remove

00:33:30.300 from this country. The, um, the nerve of Gavin Newsom to try to say, as he did yesterday in an

00:33:37.440 ex post that Trump is hoping for chaos and is trying to manufacture a crisis. There's absolutely

00:33:43.840 no reason for Trump to manufacture a crisis. Trump's approval rate approval ratings are higher than

00:33:48.360 they've ever been. They are higher at this point in his presidency than Obama had, then George W.

00:33:54.140 Bush had, then, then, uh, Biden had. So what, what incentive does Trump have to manufacture a crisis?

00:34:03.060 Things are actually going quite well for Donald Trump right now. He's just trying to help the city

00:34:08.800 of Los Angeles and the people out there. And also to send a message to other potential rioters and

00:34:14.260 other cities. Don't start. Don't even think about it. I'll kill it in its crib.

00:34:20.620 Totally. Let's play this out. So if he was who they say he was, wouldn't he just let LA burn?

00:34:26.840 They didn't vote for him. None of these people like him apparently, right? Just let it burn. Who cares

00:34:32.300 about LA? No, but he's actually a president for all Americans. It's not just about seeking revenge

00:34:37.340 and prioritizing your friends. No, LA is one of the bluest cities in the country.

00:34:42.800 Just for the listening audience, we're looking at a picture of National Guard troops, uh, getting

00:34:46.820 ready and at a staging area in front of a building that has had death to America spelled A M E R I K K

00:34:53.720 A. Of course. They're so dumb. They don't even realize that there's supposed to be three K's in

00:34:58.080 the KKK. If we're going to do it, please do it right without spelling errors. Anyway. Um,

00:35:03.760 that's what we're up against. Sorry, Charlie, for the interruption.

00:35:05.600 No, no, no. It's, it's very astute. You point that out because again, this goes back to one of

00:35:11.200 my life themes, which is I, I see that. And I hear that on college campuses all the time that

00:35:16.860 varies while they usually add the K, but that's a separate issue. But meaning what happens on college

00:35:21.780 campuses will soon happen in the halls of Congress and in the streets. This is all an outgrowth of

00:35:26.120 ideology that is formed and festered, tried and incubated on college campuses. Now, what is the core

00:35:31.960 contention? Understand the core contention of what's animating them is they think California

00:35:36.200 is theirs. La Raza is a group that has been around in America for quite some time. They believe it.

00:35:41.920 La Raza is an insurgency Mexican group that thinks that California is still Mexico. Yeah. As if Mexico

00:35:46.640 would do a great job with California, Mexico is a big country. Do you guys have anything close to

00:35:50.440 California as far as the wealth and the prestige? No, there's something different between the United

00:35:54.540 States and Mexico. And we should appreciate that. That's why there's a lot more Mexicans that try to

00:36:00.180 get into California than Californians that try to get into Mexico. And I'm not even necessarily even

00:36:04.720 against Mexicans as people. You and I both know wonderful people that are from Mexico. The point

00:36:09.540 is this, is that there is a parasitic ideology. And I want to try to educate the audience quickly on this

00:36:14.900 because in 2020, we had to try to learn about critical race theory. Remember we went deep and we

00:36:19.600 learned about CRT and BLM and postmodernism, poststructuralism. And we learned about Robin

00:36:24.360 D'Angelo and we read about Derrick Bell and Kimberly Crenshaw. I want to open your audience's eyes to

00:36:29.680 another type of idea toxin. It's similar to CRT, but it's different. It is the open border ideology.

00:36:37.080 It's closer to critical legal theory. It is that the world should have no borders. It is anti-colonialist

00:36:42.780 at its core. Anti-colonialism is the base of the modern Democrat party, that there is no such

00:36:49.500 thing as America. How many times have we heard that, which is we're living on conquered and stolen

00:36:54.340 land. When you guys hear land acknowledgements, remember that whole kind of goofy thing you've

00:36:58.680 heard for years, Megan, where I want to acknowledge that we're on the Uroquois land or the novel.

00:37:03.780 That's where that's where this leads, which is that California is not America. Who are you to say

00:37:08.600 that we're here illegally? No person is illegal. You're here on stolen land. And you allow these idea

00:37:13.360 toxins to manifest and to then grow with momentum unchallenged. You are then met with a huge portion

00:37:21.540 of the Los Angeles population that doesn't believe in America, but they'll certainly take money from

00:37:27.060 the U.S. government. They don't believe in our country, don't believe in our creed, and they are

00:37:31.300 occupants on a land that they detest because they think that this place is actually theirs. And I believe

00:37:39.680 that we're going to see in the next coming months and maybe years a resurgence the same way that we

00:37:45.540 saw CRT and wokeism spread throughout our institutions. They're going to attempt to do

00:37:50.960 the same with anti-colonialism throughout so many of the power centers. Very poorly timed,

00:37:56.020 very poorly timed because the American people are overwhelmingly in favor of what Trump's doing

00:37:59.760 on the deportations, not just at the border, but on the actual deportations. But what do you make of

00:38:05.060 my theory that this is what's happening? Like, why did the LAPD sit around for two hours letting this

00:38:09.080 happen? I think it's the CVS theory that I was telling the audience about at the top where

00:38:14.000 we actually pulled the video. Do you remember this moment? It happened in 2020 in the BLM riots,

00:38:19.160 and it was just one of a million incidents that we've covered where law enforcement was going to

00:38:24.980 be brought in. But the person thinking about bringing them in to stop crime was shamed about

00:38:30.240 doing it as like, if you call a cop, you're anti-black, you're an anti-black racist. And I firmly believe this

00:38:37.840 is why we've seen in so many pockets the erosion of law enforcement, the unwillingness to call them

00:38:42.620 now, because you get shamed out of calling law enforcement if you're a civilian or being law

00:38:48.580 enforcement and doing your job if you're a cop. Here was the moment in Washington, D.C. in 2020.

00:38:53.780 And you decided to call the police on two black people that stole, that allegedly took something

00:39:00.380 from the store, because you're willing to uphold the policy, and they could have lost their lives.

00:39:06.660 I followed my company's policies, not your policies, where I can appreciate your concerns.

00:39:10.660 So you're willing to risk someone's life for, what, $30,000 a year? That's...

00:39:14.880 There was no risk, in my opinion. Thank you. You have a great night.

00:39:18.600 What is your name? My name is the store manager.

00:39:22.320 No, what is his name? No one's gonna tell you my name when you're sitting here videotaping us

00:39:26.700 so that you can try and elicit some sort of violence against you. It's not gonna happen.

00:39:30.220 Elicit violence against you? You just elicited violence against two black men by calling the

00:39:34.520 police on them. We got to walk away when one of them had a warrant and could have been arrested,

00:39:37.940 and the cops still let him go. Just listen to yourself. You work with black folks. You just remember that.

00:39:41.980 Oh, blood boiling. But that's what... I believe this is why the LAPD sat there for two hours

00:39:49.360 not doing anything. Totally. I want you to remember back in 2020, there was this book

00:39:56.360 written by someone, Hertzweil, that NPR wrote, The Case for Looting. The Western norms that you and I

00:40:04.580 share, Megan, are not necessarily... They're trying to deconstruct all of it. That is what the Democrat

00:40:09.500 party stands for, is that they don't believe in private property. They also... It is... The LAPD,

00:40:15.400 I don't know, was it a stand-down order given by Karen Bass? We should look into all that. I would

00:40:20.260 like to think the rank and file actually are really embarrassed by what's happening, and they want...

00:40:25.100 Definitely. I would like to think that they're just maddened and angry at this, and again,

00:40:30.400 I could tell you that this dog would not hunt in many cities across the country, in Dallas or in

00:40:37.200 Houston. Try this. Yeah. Why don't we try this in Lubbock, Texas and see how it goes?

00:40:42.060 Yeah, exactly. Right? Or I think in Florida, they wouldn't put up with this nonsense, right?

00:40:45.960 Yeah. And so... Not coming to Tampa near you.

00:40:49.480 Totally. Yeah, that's right. And so a tied and true rule, a tied and true rule is if you...

00:40:57.100 What you put up with is what you get. What you put up with... What you permit, you promote.

00:41:01.960 And... Exactly. And so with this, with the rank and file of these criminal gangs, which by the way,

00:41:09.640 let's just talk about for a second. These are... They're operating kind of like gangs, honestly,

00:41:14.120 right? I mean, this is... These are not the best that Los Angeles has to offer. You shut down a highway

00:41:20.300 and you start lobbing granite stones at police officers. And so the lack of repudiation from

00:41:29.860 the major networks and from the media, it's as if they want another summer where the country goes up

00:41:35.400 in flames. I would like to believe, though, as horrible as this is, this will only make President

00:41:40.640 Trump's approval rating go up. I'm sad to say that because I don't want to see my country burn. I don't

00:41:45.060 like saying that Los Angeles is some sort of occupied city, but it is. And as you can see

00:41:50.520 the footage on screen right now, do these people look like the best that we're... Does this look

00:41:55.520 like the people we want? Or is that guy assimilating as he's punching right into the car? No, of course

00:42:01.020 not. And if you import the third world, you get the third world. You see this in third worlds all the

00:42:08.240 time. Massive mobs get what they want. They burn the nice stuff. It takes no talent whatsoever to go burn.

00:42:15.060 To go destroy. My two-year-old is really good at destroying. It takes a lot of talent. In fact,

00:42:20.160 it is unique in human history to build, to have wealth, to be rich. And America has done that.

00:42:25.960 And it's confounded the world. And now the third world wants to come here. And the only thing we

00:42:30.580 ask when you come here is be grateful and assimilate. And apparently that's too much to ask.

00:42:35.480 Instead, they are leeching off of our country and they are filled with ingratitude and venom. And as you

00:42:41.960 can see with widespread chaos in our streets. And disregard for human life. Like no normal person

00:42:49.940 would ever throw cinder blocks or rocks off an overpass at the cars below. That's who we're

00:42:55.900 importing. That's sick. I mean, that's true. And frankly, I really don't care whether they're

00:43:00.440 illegal or they're American. I really don't care. You need law enforcement to come and protect the ICE

00:43:05.780 agents who are there doing their job. That is depraved indifference to life. Here's Maxine Waters,

00:43:11.220 always to be counted on for an absurd take, representing her party, the Democrats reacting

00:43:17.760 to it all and the National Guard coming into town. Sot 16.

00:43:22.480 I don't know why we have guns. What are those guns for? Are they the shoot protesters? I mean,

00:43:29.140 there's no reason to be here with the National Guard. The president of the United States is a cruel,

00:43:35.580 this honorable human being. We'll just assume they shoot somebody down. But I don't want that to

00:43:40.980 happen. Okay. It's, it's, it's not just her, by the way. Okay. It's, it, there was another one,

00:43:48.440 an LA city council member, Eunice Hernandez, who went even further than Maxine. Take a listen to

00:43:55.980 this person in Sot 15. They know how quickly we mobilize. That's why they're changing tactics

00:44:02.640 because community defense works and our resistance has slowed them down before. And if they're

00:44:07.080 escalating their tactics, then so are we. When they show up, when they show up, we got to show up even

00:44:15.920 stronger. And there are signs behind her that read, no deportation. I can't do, no deportation.

00:44:24.340 So you can't deport anybody. And when ICE steps up its tactics, this little lady, I think,

00:44:31.660 Eunice Hernandez is going to step up her tactics against ICE. And then they wonder, Maxine Waters

00:44:37.800 wonders what the National Guard is doing here. I don't know why they're here with their guns.

00:44:42.200 You should talk to Eunice, Maxine. You, you, you girls should have a chat.

00:44:48.520 Yes. And again, the reason that they have guns is the only thing these people understand is more

00:44:53.400 force is a bigger weapon. That's all they understand. There's no reasoning with them. By the way,

00:44:58.680 we're not going to give them anything that they want. We're not going to stop the deportations.

00:45:02.440 There'll only be even more after this. We need to get to four to five to 6,000 a day and understand

00:45:08.660 this is that the LA field office was really lagging in deportations for a couple months.

00:45:13.340 Very obvious that the deportation officers there didn't really know what they were doing because

00:45:17.380 they didn't have to do this for the last couple of months. And it's been publicly reported, but

00:45:20.800 Stephen Miller basically started screaming at the ICE guys being like, where are your numbers to get

00:45:25.720 them up? And this is really prompted by the guys getting into the field. And all of a sudden,

00:45:30.020 you're like, you can't touch our people. Actually, we can. And we will. And you're going back to

00:45:33.500 Mexico since you love it so much. And in fact, we'll buy you a plane ticket. You can go back.

00:45:37.000 And since the border is secure, you're not going to be able to come back in. And that's also what

00:45:40.800 they understand is that in a prior administration, okay, you get deported. You just come right back,

00:45:44.800 right? Remember how many times we heard, Megan, oh, he's been six times deported, seven times

00:45:47.940 deported. You just kind of come on back. It's a little bit of a logistical inconvenience. Now the

00:45:52.300 border is completely secure. It is totally secure. So there's no more coming back in. And then the

00:45:59.060 question is how many illegals are actually in this country? Is it 20, 25 million, 30 million? Is it 10%

00:46:05.380 of our country? Nobody knows. And nobody actually even cares to try to find out. And there you have

00:46:12.200 elected leaders that are citing who is their constituency. Their constituency are not Americans.

00:46:18.520 And then you failed to be a nation when your constituency is foreigners.

00:46:23.720 Why? Why are her signs in Spanish? No deportation. I think we get to decide that. Not Eunice. You don't

00:46:30.180 get to decide that. Sorry. We had a whole election where the entire country voted that we don't want

00:46:35.360 illegals in this country. You lost. You lost. Here is Maxine Waters was causing all sorts of antics

00:46:42.300 yesterday because she loves to see her face on camera. But there was the SEIU president, the union

00:46:48.080 president, this guy, David Huerta out there who thought it would be a great idea to try to obstruct,

00:46:55.580 allegedly, the access of these federal agents at a work site, right? They're going place to place.

00:47:00.600 Tom Homan and his guys are going place to place to try to find illegals and get them out of here.

00:47:05.200 And this guy, David Huerta, is accused of, SEIU president, trying to interfere with that at a work

00:47:12.000 site, according to the U.S. attorney for the Central District of California. And he got arrested.

00:47:17.500 So they arrested the SEIU president out there for interfering in this behavior. And then Maxine tried to

00:47:24.020 inject herself into the scenario by going to the facility, the federal facility where he's being

00:47:31.120 held and trying to force her way in in the midst of all this chaos. OK, like all the law enforcement,

00:47:35.860 including those managing this facility, have enough to deal with, right, with actual criminals who are

00:47:40.340 getting arrested, trying to hurt law enforcement agents, you know, throwing the bricks, all the

00:47:44.300 stuff, lighting cars on fire. And she decides now would be a great opportunity for a photo app,

00:47:49.060 photo app for her to go to this facility and try to check on David. She wants to check on him.

00:47:53.740 And she got exactly the treatment she should get. And anyone like her should get who tries to

00:47:59.700 interfere in the midst of a crisis with what our cops are doing. Here's what happened.

00:48:05.260 Congresswoman walked. I just came and used my congressional icon.

00:48:12.500 Ma'am, I'll be secure right now to all visitors.

00:48:15.020 Excuse me, I need to get in.

00:48:16.500 Contact our public apparel office.

00:48:17.600 I need to get in.

00:48:18.660 She tried to stick her hand in the door as they closed it. And to their credit,

00:48:27.200 they closed it anyway. She had to pull her hand out. And then she gave an interview after the fact

00:48:30.860 playing the victim, Charlie.

00:48:33.820 It's just the theatrics is just so tired and just dumb.

00:48:38.120 Right.

00:48:38.340 And this is, again, this is the state of the Democrat party. I mean.

00:48:42.280 Wait, can I ask you? I'm sorry to interrupt you. I asked you. But like.

00:48:44.440 Yes, please.

00:48:44.820 You said theatrics. How about Gavin or Newsom? The hell?

00:48:48.700 Oh, no.

00:48:49.220 The hell is.

00:48:51.640 Like, who's a better actor? I'm not sure. They're both up for an award.

00:48:55.540 I was watching him on MSNBC. He's got a new hand motion. I was going to text him. It's the it's this.

00:49:00.600 It's got like, you know, usually it's kind of this.

00:49:02.980 And then he's doing this thing on MSNBC. He's doing this whole thing. Look, he is he is the

00:49:09.320 fakest person I think I've ever met in my entire life. So since that and honestly, that's very

00:49:14.440 dangerous, like incredibly dangerous. Like he's the type of person that could just like stare like,

00:49:20.080 oh, yeah, I voted for Trump and just like pass a lie detector test that that is very, very,

00:49:24.780 you know, just stone cold, just like no, no inhibitions whatsoever when it comes the deceit

00:49:32.540 or lying or misleading. But again, Gavin wants to be president. So this is this is him trying to

00:49:37.840 recover from, you know, the damage that he got after the podcast I had with him. Remember,

00:49:41.900 I asked him, what do you know about transports? He did nothing and all that. And he got a huge

00:49:44.760 left flank. So how do you this is very instructive. How do you get yourself back into the Democrat

00:49:49.780 primary circle? How do you win back support? You let your city burn. Nothing gets you back into

00:49:55.520 the good wishes of the Democrat Party. Nothing makes you a popular Democrat.

00:50:00.720 Then the smell of ashes and burning, burning city. In fact, remember Gwen Waltz, who said,

00:50:08.580 I rolled down my window after Minneapolis was burning and the smell of tires was invigorating

00:50:15.500 because it smelled like people were joking that Gwen Waltz is booking a plane ticket to L.A.

00:50:20.020 right now. All right. Oh, no, because she loves the smell of napalm in the morning. But this time

00:50:25.980 it's the smell of rioting in the morning. Standby. Quick ad. Charlie stays with us for the full show.

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00:54:09.540 Charlie, weighing in on Trump and his staff, and in particular Stephen Miller, who is the architect

00:54:22.720 of the very popular policy when it comes to illegals, is ABC News' Terry Moran, their senior

00:54:30.720 national correspondent. This guy's been with ABC since 1997. He was the chief White House correspondent

00:54:36.420 under W, under Clinton as well. He was co-anchor of Nightline from 05 to 13. He was ABC News' chief

00:54:44.220 foreign correspondent from 13 to 18, and he's been senior national correspondent for the past

00:54:50.620 almost, well, I don't know, seven, eight years now. He also leads the network's Supreme Court coverage.

00:54:57.260 This guy is as rabidly partisan as they come. Correct. He fits in perfectly at ABC News.

00:55:06.420 Perfectly. And in a moment that was kind of stunning, but the sentiment not surprising from

00:55:14.520 him, he got on X at 12.06 a.m. Sunday, meaning six after midnight, Saturday night. Guarantee you the

00:55:22.880 guy. A little bit of a drunk. Yeah. I mean, what else would let him, would make him take the mask

00:55:27.480 down? Like, the veil's down. The sentiments are as they always have been. But the veil came down,

00:55:32.940 and he decided to post the following on X. The thing about, like, just out of the blue, or maybe

00:55:37.960 it's because of the L.A. riots. The thing about Stephen Miller is not that he's the brains behind

00:55:42.840 Trumpism. Yes, he is one of the people who conceptualizes the impulses of the Trumpist

00:55:47.000 movement and translates them into policy. But that's not what's interesting about Miller.

00:55:51.820 So far, we're OK. So far, he hasn't said anything he could say. What's interesting about him is that

00:55:56.200 he's a great orator, and he can sell it better than anybody. That tweet could have landed in a place

00:56:00.340 that wouldn't have gotten him in trouble. But that's not where it went. He went on to say,

00:56:04.080 it's not brains. It's bile. Miller is a man who is richly endowed with the capacity for hatred.

00:56:13.080 He is a world-class hater. You can see this just by looking at him, because you can see that his

00:56:20.100 hatreds are his spiritual nourishment. He eats his hate. Trump is a world-class hater. But his hatred

00:56:31.060 is only a means to an end, and that end is his own glorification. That's his spiritual nourishment.

00:56:40.600 So this is supposed to be an objective, unbiased, right down the middle, not just correspondent,

00:56:47.840 but chief national correspondent, a leader within ABC News. And I posted this on X after I saw it. He

00:56:55.420 later deleted it, when he probably sobered up, that he should have been fired immediately. There

00:57:01.140 shouldn't have even been a discussion. This is beyond question a fireable offense for anyone

00:57:07.420 whose job it is to maintain objectivity and to be trusted by the entire country, not just half of it.

00:57:13.420 ABC News, having seen lots of tweets and feedback like that, announced the next day and told the

00:57:19.680 Megyn Kelly show directly, quote, ABC News stands for objectivity and impartiality

00:57:26.200 in its news coverage and does not condone subjective personal attacks on others.

00:57:32.700 The post does not reflect the views of ABC News and violated our standards. As a result,

00:57:36.500 Terry Moran has been suspended pending further evaluation from an ABC News spokesperson. Suspended,

00:57:43.400 not fired, no apology to Stephen Miller, nor to President Trump from either Moran or ABC,

00:57:52.120 because let's face it, they all agree and are secretly applauding what he wrote.

00:57:57.520 Of course, every major journalist in the D.C. press corps, with maybe one or two exceptions,

00:58:03.020 believes exactly what Terry Moran wrote. And what was his big contention? Was it evidence-based? Was it

00:58:08.860 cited? No, it's how he looks. That's right, Megan. He says you could just tell. Okay, well, Terry Moran,

00:58:16.480 we could just tell a lot by looking at you, but that's not relevant to this discussion, actually.

00:58:20.680 You're a deeply unhappy person who's rage tweeting at six minutes past midnight against the deputy chief

00:58:27.840 of staff because you don't agree with him politically. I mean, okay, but media trust is at

00:58:36.120 an all-time low, and it's only going lower. President Trump has an amazing ability to break

00:58:39.760 these people and to really show them as a mask-soft moment. And ABC has been at the forefront of the

00:58:46.560 peddling of so many hoaxes the last couple of years. I'll be curious your thoughts, Megan. I

00:58:52.460 actually think he's probably going to be brought back because I don't think they want to try to show

00:58:56.420 that, you know, MAGA got a scalp. He'll be, you know, be in the wilderness for two or three years

00:59:01.300 and two or three months, try to recover a little bit and come back and say, you know, I was, at the

00:59:06.480 time, I was a little inebriated and said stuff I shouldn't, and boom, he's back and act as if

00:59:11.140 nothing happened. But at its fundamental core, the journalists are activists. They're not, they're

00:59:17.700 not trying to explore truth. They're not trying to challenge authority. These are activists. These

00:59:24.120 are people, remember, that actively covered up the biggest political scandal in modern American

00:59:31.540 history, if not American history, which was Biden's cognitive decline, which was who was running the

00:59:36.580 country, who was signing the documents. And people like Terry Moran were actively calling people like

00:59:42.540 me a conspiracy theorist and you, Megan, for even saying that he's not running the country and that

00:59:48.080 it's a unelected Politburo. So I'm actually kind of glad to see this. Terry Moran and his

00:59:53.880 like deserve to be publicly humiliated because the fact that he actually put this out in a tweet

01:00:00.400 goes to show that the private feelings are finally made being made public. Make no mistake,

01:00:05.160 almost every single journalist that you are reading in the New York Times or CNN

01:00:08.880 shares every sentiment that Terry Moran said publicly. 100%. They hate Stephen Miller. The first

01:00:15.720 term, there were countless articles about how he's an alleged white supremacist just because he wants

01:00:21.020 to enforce our borders. And that's really what Moran has to be referring to because that's been the

01:00:25.980 most out front position for Miller in Trump 2.02. And that's why he says you can see he's a world

01:00:32.700 class hater. You can see it just by looking at him because you can see that his hatreds are his

01:00:39.100 spiritual nourishment. He eats his hate. I think there's a bit of reflection there, right? Or

01:00:46.280 transference, my mom would say it's called. Totally. In any event, where it's like his own hatred,

01:00:50.440 it's his TDS right there, which I can see all over him. It's eating him up and he's projecting it or

01:00:57.080 transferring it onto Stephen Miller. Here, let me tell you a little bit about Terry Moran. Terry

01:01:02.900 Moran, just a couple of examples of his past coverage of Trump. In 2021, he referred to Trump

01:01:09.180 as the Fuhrer in the Republican Party during ABC's coverage of the Trump impeachment trial,

01:01:16.840 saying- Sounds impartial. Yeah, that's what Trump reminded him of, that Trump has the Republican

01:01:23.840 Party as a personalized power like we have never seen. It's a caudillo. It's a Caesar. It's a Fuhrer.

01:01:29.740 We don't see that in this country. We do now. He invoked Nazi-adjacent comparisons when describing

01:01:35.660 Trump after his first inaugural address in January of 17. It carries with it overtones from the 1930s,

01:01:41.660 when an anti-Semitic movement said, we don't want to get involved in Europe's war. It's the

01:01:47.080 Jews' fault in Germany. Charles Lindbergh led them. It's a term, as he defined it in his way,

01:01:53.000 but the words carry ugly echoes in our history. That's how he interpreted Trump's inaugural address.

01:01:59.020 And then let's just see, maybe he's tough on all presidents, Charlie. Maybe he's just got like an

01:02:02.820 anti-authority strain, which is healthy in a reporter. Let's see what he did with Barack Obama

01:02:06.700 when he was taking the office as president back in 2009. Oh, here's the quote. Barack Obama is the

01:02:13.340 first president since George Washington to be taking a step down into the Oval Office.

01:02:20.420 Unbelievable.

01:02:20.900 He's above the Oval, you see. Barack Obama had accomplished absolutely nothing other than being

01:02:29.840 an Illinois senator and then a U.S. senator for one term. For like 18 months. Yes. Yes. And actually

01:02:34.860 had absolutely nothing to point to as an accomplishment in that role. But see, he was

01:02:39.280 taking a step down into the Oval because he's above the presidency, whereas Trump is the Fuhrer who's

01:02:46.380 echoing Nazi language from the 1930s in his inaugural address. He got it. So to no one's

01:02:52.340 surprise, he sees Trump and his chief deputy on policy as full of hate that's eating them alive.

01:02:59.560 And and again, I want to just repeat this, that every single one of those people in those briefing

01:03:04.340 room who pretend to be objective, they're they're they're identical to his viewpoint. And Megan,

01:03:11.160 this is why I think my podcast is growing and why your podcast is growing is the American people

01:03:16.020 realize that they have these supercomputers in the right hand pocket, their iPhones. Why do I have

01:03:20.600 to listen to you, Terry Moran? Why do I have to listen to you, David Muir? Why do I have to listen

01:03:25.300 to you, NBC? I don't even have Lester Holt is still there. I can't keep track of who's on what.

01:03:28.920 And I literally don't watch any of the networks. Yeah, I don't watch CBS. I don't watch ABC. I don't

01:03:34.520 watch NBC. The only time I ever see them is when there's like a bubble up of something crazy that they

01:03:39.440 say, like Margaret Brennan, when J.D. Vance kind of delivered the truth to her. And but the the most

01:03:46.320 important element of this is I wish we actually had a functioning media. It would be good for our

01:03:51.500 country. It'd be good if people like Terry Moran weren't actually in charge as a senior national

01:03:56.420 correspondent or someone that was in charge of the news flow in our country. We would have a much

01:04:02.120 better nation. We would have a much stronger country. But instead, the press corps has done nothing

01:04:07.720 to earn our trust. They never apologized after Russiagate, one of the greatest scandals.

01:04:12.500 They actively covered up Joe Biden. They lied and lied and lied during covid six feet to slow the

01:04:17.520 spread. The vaccine is safe and effective. You got to get mask and vax to save your grandma's life. And

01:04:22.020 we got to shut down schools. And these people have never apologized. They've shown no contrition

01:04:26.960 whatsoever. And instead, they have hostility, not just to Stephen Miller, but to Trump's voters.

01:04:33.560 And you could tell, I mean, Terry Moran, that kind of rage tweet at like six minutes past

01:04:38.400 midnight. He's like obsessed with Stephen Miller. Like this guy is living rent free in your head

01:04:43.740 that like Stephen Miller's existence is a threat to Terry Moran's inner peace. He's a deeply troubled

01:04:50.660 person who's very unhappy, whose meaning is trying to destroy the lives of others. And that's the other

01:04:56.160 sad part. Megan, I agree. If you're kind of like an equal opportunity offender and you kind of go after

01:05:00.960 everybody and expose Republicans, Democrats, fine, that's actually healthy in a reporter.

01:05:04.700 But if you seek to be a reporter to make others, people's success go away or to destroy others,

01:05:12.200 you're a masochist. That that that is that is at its core, one of the more dark elements of the

01:05:19.900 modern media core where they don't want to actually expose stories. They want to take people out

01:05:24.220 specifically. Yeah, they're there. They're in costume. They're in costume as they pose as the

01:05:29.520 reporters of yesteryear when it would would have been unheard of. Brit Hume, my mentor at Fox News,

01:05:36.580 was the chief White House correspondent for ABC News at its heyday covering Ronald Reagan,

01:05:42.820 the Cold War, you know, tossing back to Peter Jennings, who was relentless on his factual pursuit and

01:05:49.080 would just beat up Brit all the time. Brit would talk about it. And Brit brought that same gift to

01:05:54.320 our newsroom and to me. And I've greatly benefited from all of it. But he would never. You know how

01:06:00.600 fast Brit would have been fired at ABC back in the day if he had posted anything like that?

01:06:07.700 It would not have been. And that's why I know ABC News is not going to fire Terry Moran.

01:06:13.900 They don't need to investigate anything. We already know what the sin was. We read it. It's not like

01:06:18.440 what they need time. They just don't think it's a fireable offense. And I'll tell I'll show you

01:06:22.820 why they don't think it's a fireable offense. Here is their chief news anchor, the face of the network

01:06:31.500 who they love and promoted every chance. David Muir in a moment that will be very familiar to

01:06:37.460 you in our audience. Mr. President, for three and a half years after you lost the 2020 election,

01:06:42.680 you repeatedly falsely claimed that you won many times saying you won in a landslide.

01:06:47.360 In the past couple of weeks leading up to this debate, you have said, quote,

01:06:51.360 you lost by a whisker, that you, quote, didn't quite make it, that you came up a little bit short.

01:06:56.440 Are you now acknowledging that you lost in 2020?

01:06:59.600 No, I don't acknowledge that at all. I said that sarcastically. You know that.

01:07:03.100 We said, oh, we lost by a whisker. That was said sarcastically. Look, there's so much proof.

01:07:08.740 All you have to do is look at it. And they should have sent it back to the legislatures for approval.

01:07:13.360 I did watch all of these pieces of video. I didn't detect the sarcasm lost by a whisker.

01:07:18.760 We didn't quite make it. And we should just point out here as clarification. And you know this,

01:07:22.420 you and your allies, 60 cases in front of many judges, many of them Republican.

01:07:25.980 No judge looked at it.

01:07:26.920 And said they said we didn't have standing.

01:07:29.100 OK, he didn't detect the sarcasm at a presidential debate because he's a human lie detector and also

01:07:33.740 feelings are. And I'll give you one more. Here's their chief anchor. That's how they refer to him.

01:07:38.020 I think he used to be chief political. Now he's just chief anchor, I guess,

01:07:40.800 because they got too much heat. But here's their other favorite, favorite anchor at ABC News. I'm

01:07:46.500 not talking ABC, which would include The View. Don't get me started. These are newsmen,

01:07:51.920 ostensibly, at ABC News. Here's their other favorite.

01:07:56.200 You've endorsed Donald Trump for president. Judges and two separate juries have found him liable for

01:08:01.480 rape. Donald Trump has been found liable for rape by a jury. I'm asking you a question about

01:08:06.580 why you endorse someone who's been found liable for rape. Someone who's been found liable for

01:08:10.880 rape. You have to answer the question. Why are you supporting someone who's been found liable for

01:08:14.920 rape? They are afraid to come forward, as you said, because they are defamed by those who commit

01:08:19.420 the rape. You don't find it offensive that Donald Trump has been found liable for rape. Well,

01:08:22.900 actually, what you're doing is defending a man who's been found liable for rape. I don't understand

01:08:27.060 how you can do that. The judge affirmed that it was in fact rape. Donald Trump was found to

01:08:32.860 have committed rape. That's just a fact. It's not a fact. What George Stephanopoulos said was

01:08:38.840 defamatory, and it cost ABC News $15 million. Neither man was fired, Charlie, and Terry Moran

01:08:45.360 won't be fired either. No. If I remember the case details, it was that he was found liable for,

01:08:50.700 like, defamation regarding the case with E. Jean Carroll. Anyway, I- And he was found liable on the

01:08:57.260 underlying claim for committing a sexual assault against E. Jean Carroll, but not for rape. There

01:09:04.500 was a box on the jury form, did he commit rape? And it was checked, no. Stephanopoulos was totally

01:09:10.380 wrong. You had an activist left-wing judge who, in writing up what happened in the case,

01:09:15.180 later tried to say, well, by saying sexual assault, they meant rape. But that was bullshit. They actually

01:09:21.240 did not find rape, and that's why ABC News had to pay $15 million, but didn't fire the anchor.

01:09:29.140 Of course not. And that's why I don't think Terry Moran will be fired. And by the way,

01:09:33.520 the David Muir thing, there was many other highlights from that, or lowlights from that

01:09:37.800 debate with Kamala Harris, where President Trump had to debate literally two people at once. ABC,

01:09:44.280 just like all the other networks, CBS and NBC, of course they should not be trusted. I'm interested

01:09:49.160 to see, as their viewership continues to go down, will they ever adjust their model? They are so

01:09:57.100 activist-driven. They are so concerned with trying to put forward an ideological agenda,

01:10:05.580 not trying to inform the public, not trying to, quote-unquote, get both sides. And I had to go

01:10:12.440 back to Terry Moran. What was he thinking? That's who he is, though. And again, during moments like this,

01:10:18.220 we have these great reveals where we always knew he felt that way. You could always just tell,

01:10:24.440 because, you know, Megan, that's how it works now. We could just tell by looking at him that

01:10:28.480 there's something discontent when it comes to President Trump. And I want to live in a country

01:10:36.500 where we can trust ABC and CBS and NBC, but they have committed suicide. And because of that,

01:10:42.880 we are seeing ascendant alternative media. And I think the country is better because of it.

01:10:47.920 Here's the thing. You mentioned in your previous answer about how their disdain,

01:10:54.840 the press, and the Democrats, is not just for Trump. It's for his voters. And that is true,

01:11:01.560 which is why, like, they don't care. That's why Terry Moran didn't care about making that post

01:11:06.660 at 12.06 a.m. He was like, F these disgusting people. I don't want them watching ABC news.

01:11:12.880 And by the way, I didn't even mention Jimmy Kimmel, who's their late night host, who has

01:11:16.860 actually said, I don't care if you don't watch me. If you don't watch me because I, of my stance on the

01:11:21.640 Second Amendment, good riddance to you. And then he corrected himself. Well, not good riddance,

01:11:25.660 riddance, but riddance, riddance to you. They don't care. And then out of nowhere, you get

01:11:31.760 Jason Bateman, okay, who, for the most part, I think, has done a decent job of keeping himself

01:11:38.940 out of the political lane until he launched this aptly named show, Smartless, in which he's got

01:11:46.700 two other celeb partners, and they talk about Hollywood, and they interview their Hollywood

01:11:51.960 buddies. And I don't listen to Smartless, but it seems clear to me that they're liberals,

01:11:58.180 which, fine, no one cares. You can be a liberal. Being a stupid liberal who says inane things about

01:12:02.960 the country and about Trump supporters, now we're going to talk. Now you're going to make it onto

01:12:07.600 the Megyn Kelly show, and Charlie Kirk is going to have some thoughts on you. And this is what he said.

01:12:12.920 He went on Nicole Wallace's podcast called The Best People. It's called The Best People.

01:12:21.160 And so she puts him on, and listen to what this guy, who the whole country, not just lefties,

01:12:29.380 lefties, righties, Trump supporters, and others, made a multimillionaire, made a household name.

01:12:35.900 Listen to the arrogance of this guy. Do you ever see a day, and I know this is kind of a third rail

01:12:41.960 for politics, but at what point, if ever, do you think this story would change from reporting on

01:12:48.660 the outrageousness of Trump and his actions, his decisions, his words, and instead move to the

01:12:54.600 people that have voted for him twice? And I know that goes back to the whole story of deplorables,

01:12:59.420 and as soon as that happened, everyone just backed off, and don't ever talk bad about America and the

01:13:05.980 80 million. But he's never changed. He's always been the same. He didn't do a 180 and dupe everybody

01:13:12.560 when he got to the White House. It's the people that have put him there and then put him there

01:13:17.220 again that really deserve a great deal of responsibility and a talking to. I'm sorry. And

01:13:23.960 I say that with love. A talking to. It's everything we've been talking about. They either don't believe

01:13:28.140 the bad things. They think Democrats are worse. They found something they really didn't like about

01:13:33.240 Biden and then Harris. They deserve a talking to because they are the problem, Trump voters, Charlie.

01:13:39.540 Hey, shut up, Marty Bird. That's all I have to say. I mean, it's just I, the, if you understand

01:13:44.740 the Ozark reference, I mean, look, so first of all, Nicole Wallace is totally insufferable. Like who

01:13:49.920 would voluntarily spend time listening to her podcast? We'll see if it succeeds. I have my doubts. But

01:13:56.020 look, the, the, what Bateman is getting at, though, is a, is a condemnation of America, which kind of

01:14:04.180 connects with our immigration topic. They hate the country. They, and a country is made up of its

01:14:10.280 people. And he, he has like this belief that if you, if you were to go into a diner in Midland, Texas,

01:14:17.520 he has contempt for those people, people that go to church, people that own guns, people that actually

01:14:23.580 make the country work. And it is the pomposity that is embedded. And it's nothing really new.

01:14:29.320 We've seen this over the last couple of years, but instead of trying to seek to understand

01:14:34.540 why they're losing the country, to seek to understand why people are voting for president

01:14:39.440 Trump, no, they'll keep on attacking them as deplorables or clingers, or as Joe Biden called

01:14:45.220 them garbage. If you remember that right before the election. And it was my Halloween costume that year.

01:14:51.520 Yeah, I, it was, uh, and when president Trump won, wore the garbage outfit in Wisconsin,

01:14:56.140 it was one of the more legendary moments. And, and here's where the, again, I'm not here to give

01:15:00.940 Democrats political advice, but if the, if you say this, then you're part of the problem. Quote,

01:15:07.180 everyone I know hates Donald Trump. You're part of the problem. If everybody, you know,

01:15:12.660 hates the current president who won a popular vote majority and an electoral vote landslide,

01:15:19.620 you're, you are incapable of understanding the country, especially if you are a journalist,

01:15:24.360 especially if you're a journalist. Charlie, but what about the fact that like he, to me,

01:15:28.860 he's just like Michelle Obama. Like we made you rich beyond your wildest imagination.

01:15:35.920 This country gave you so much in riches and rewards and let you do the thing that you love so much

01:15:43.200 to act for money. That's something a lot of people would do for free. A Gavin Newsom and, uh,

01:15:49.620 and, um, who's the other one who, uh, what's her name? We're like amazing actors,

01:15:54.560 Maxine waters in their little bits. They they're doing it practically for free,

01:15:58.080 but Justin Bateman had from his time on little house on the Prairie to Ozark and everything in

01:16:05.400 between has received nothing but love from yes, the right half of this country who never gave two

01:16:11.340 shits about his politics and whether he shared theirs or understood them. And what is their reward?

01:16:18.800 Once he gets to the so-called top, he feels the need to take a massive dump all over them.

01:16:25.300 It's so offensive. It's so out of touch. It's so ungrateful.

01:16:31.280 Yeah. And again, it's just, there, there's so many elements and wrinkles to this.

01:16:34.980 Just to, to reiterate it further, the country cannot continue. Yeah. The country cannot continue

01:16:43.840 if the cultural and political and media elites just don't even seek to understand the half of

01:16:51.940 the country that is falling away from them. And what is so interesting is that almost every single

01:16:57.640 Trump supporter knows people that voted for Kamala Harris, but a lot of Kamala Harris voters don't know

01:17:03.740 anybody that voted for Donald Trump. And I encourage people to run that test. I guarantee you that

01:17:09.480 the, and, and, and if you sever a relationship with someone who voted for Donald Trump, you're a bad

01:17:13.880 person. If you are going to sever a relationship based on politics, there's something deeply wrong

01:17:19.040 with you. You're, you're sick, especially, Oh, Megan, the worst thing, the worst part of my job.

01:17:24.640 And I travel the country all the time. I have an amazing job, super blessed to speak across the

01:17:28.300 country. The worst part of my job is moms that come up to me and they say, I can't see

01:17:33.720 my grandkids because my son says I'm a Trump supporter. So I'm cut off from seeing my grandkids.

01:17:39.320 It's happening all the time, Megan, that people are holding their grandkids hostage based on

01:17:43.980 political views. And you could extrapolate that in any possible way imaginable. And so I'm not even

01:17:50.160 sure how we're going to heal this. We have to just push, we have to push through it. And, and one,

01:17:55.400 one side note on Michelle Obama, can we just note how overrated she is and like all the hype around

01:18:00.800 Michelle Obama, Oh, she's going to run for office. And she's just, I don't want to get into the

01:18:05.820 aesthetics of all of it, but the presentation of her podcast is terrible. She's just whining all the

01:18:11.320 time and she's complaining, right? Again, I'm not trying to look at people's looks. That's not what

01:18:14.980 I'm doing. I'm just saying the whole aura of it to use a Gen Z term is terrible. It's negative.

01:18:20.460 It's just kind of her lamenting. And then she's obviously there's problems with her daughters and

01:18:25.040 all that. I don't want to get into that, but we, we built up on the right. Michelle Obama is going to be

01:18:29.440 the hardest person ever to run against. And her book sold so many copies. And my goodness,

01:18:34.800 you want to talk about the most overrated political hype of a generation. It would go

01:18:40.240 to Michelle Obama. Anyway, that's just the side note that's been on my mind for a while.

01:18:43.500 I'm happy to make fun of her. Look, it's very strange. I'm, it was Benny Johnson who dubbed

01:18:47.660 that one hairstyle. I'm not, I'm not getting into that. She's like three bumps on the back.

01:18:52.420 Stegosaurus. It's very strange. Um, speaking of Michelle Obama and her podcast

01:18:57.820 and Democrats who diminish Republican voters as a bunch of know nothings or villains. And Jason,

01:19:05.000 Jason Bateman's, uh, case, by the way, I'm on team Justine Bateman. She's the best Bateman. Um,

01:19:11.260 here is Michelle Obama. I don't within the past week or so. I've been trying to get to the sound

01:19:16.480 bite for a couple of days now on Trump voters, female voters in particular. This is a woman who's

01:19:21.960 supposed to understand America and the women of America and she supports other women. She's a

01:19:26.940 feminist hero. Here she is. Can't wait to hear this. This is why I implore, implore the, the men

01:19:35.160 in, in the world who have women that they say they care about, um, daughters that they are raising,

01:19:41.640 um, uh, that this is their issue too. I mean, to, to, for, for men to sit on their hands over this

01:19:50.460 issue and trade out women's health for a tax break or whatever it is, um, is a sad statement about

01:19:59.320 that, that, that, that man's level of value of the women in their lives. Um, and there are a lot of

01:20:06.820 men who have, uh, they have big chairs at their, their tables. You know, there are a lot of women

01:20:13.300 who vote the way their man is going to vote. Um, what it happened in this election.

01:20:20.980 Got it. Republican women are too dumb to make up their own minds about president. They did it

01:20:26.240 because they're men told them to after that ridiculous, remember that ad the Democrats ran

01:20:30.980 with Julia Roberts voiceover where the women like secretly. It's our little secret. Yeah. This is

01:20:35.980 what they think of Republican women. Of course. I mean, look, first of all,

01:20:41.060 just like the embedded kind of just, um, implied chauvinism that all of our relationships in the

01:20:47.820 Trump world are like, we tell our wives exactly what to do. It's like, okay, no, we, we all have

01:20:52.500 agency. Okay. Secondly, I just have to comment on this. She's really lost a step just embedded in

01:20:59.320 her language is like, she's really let Donald Trump break her. I mean, she used to have, don't you

01:21:04.920 agree? She used to present a lot better and with like more zest and more energy and more intensity.

01:21:10.720 It's like this Michelle Obama just looks broken. And she, she's kind of doing the wine mom thing.

01:21:16.620 And she's just kind of like, I'm just like, just kind of meandering through life. Um, anyway,

01:21:22.120 I'm not upset about it.

01:21:23.000 Populated like every 30 seconds with what about me? No one asks about totally exactly. Or I mean,

01:21:29.560 just, I mean, for, and Megan, I know, I know you'll take this in good stride, but she's like,

01:21:33.280 we black women need to complain more. Yeah. That's the problem with black women is not enough

01:21:37.260 complaining. She said that like a couple of weeks ago. I mean, look, it just, I'll put that aside

01:21:41.020 that people can, that's definitely the problem in the black community, right? Not enough complaining.

01:21:45.280 Um, but anyway, to her, she's doing more than her fair share. Oh yes. No, she, she's, she's at,

01:21:52.340 she's at her complaining quotient, but I guess she's talking about abortion there as if like,

01:21:57.720 Oh, you know, woman's health. But let me, let me just be clear. Not a single Trump voting male

01:22:03.680 in the world is ever going to be, been one, be one over by complaining Michelle Obama,

01:22:08.360 just to make sure we're all keeping score here. Right. Just there, there, there's not,

01:22:12.580 there's not a welder right now in Des Moines, Iowa. That's like, you're right. I'm going to go

01:22:16.440 vote for the Democrat party because Michelle Obama makes such a great case and a great point.

01:22:21.740 But what an insult as Michelle Obama is silent on this, the, the stealing of women's championships

01:22:28.140 from men, as if there's just like one issue that we have to hyper focus on. And the Democrat party

01:22:34.860 tried that this last November and it failed because it turns out that there is a lot more issues than

01:22:40.300 that one that Michelle Obama wants us to hyper fixate on. Here's, uh, here's the, the other

01:22:47.200 thing about Michelle Obama. She is an, at every turn, she is talking about how much she can't stand

01:22:52.420 her husband. Uh, she can't stand marriage and she can't, she can't stand. I could talk about

01:22:59.620 Michelle Obama for an hour. I think this is hilarious. I just think it's great. It's truly

01:23:03.620 amazing. So, but like, it's not just what's interesting about her. Yes. Is how you're right.

01:23:07.380 She's lost his step and we all thought she'd be way more quote fierce than she turned out to be,

01:23:12.580 but she is a mouthpiece for the Democrat party, both officially and unofficially. And the unofficial

01:23:18.220 part is what's interesting. Like in the same way, Terry Moran gave us a view behind the veil

01:23:22.000 on how journalists behave. She gave us a view on how the vast majority of her party does feel

01:23:27.060 about Republicans, about Republican women. Like it's, it's actually not that surprising to see

01:23:32.800 how much she can't stand us. And I mentioned that ad, that ad that was put out by Democrats.

01:23:39.360 They wanted us to see it. They, it was all about how women should disobey their overbearing Republican

01:23:45.680 husbands. No, that's right. I forgot about that. That's exactly right. We pulled it. Yes. Here it is.

01:23:50.020 This is the Democrats and Julia Roberts.

01:23:56.260 Your turn, honey.

01:23:57.780 In the one place in America where women still have a right to choose.

01:24:03.860 You can vote any way you want.

01:24:06.920 Two women are looking at each other with a pen covering over Tim Walz.

01:24:11.320 Kamala. And they fell out for Kamala.

01:24:13.320 Did you make the right choice?

01:24:14.600 Sure did, honey.

01:24:15.860 Remember, what happens in the booth stays in the booth.

01:24:20.020 Terry Moran, Justin Bateman, Julia Roberts, Michelle Obama. It's a Democrat problem.

01:24:29.200 Yes. And I just, as a side note to that ad, it is so destructive and bad. You want to know why we

01:24:35.100 have a rebellion, Michelle Obama? Because in every caricature of white men, they come across as

01:24:40.740 space cadets. In every fictional caricature, right? They're dumb. They're kind of, you know,

01:24:46.260 happy, go, I don't know what's going on. Right. And you want to, we as men are tired of being

01:24:51.240 portrayed that way. You can kind of tell these just kind of like, oh, you know, did you vote for

01:24:55.220 the right person? Just they're trying to make it look as if he's kind of clueless and that there's

01:24:59.260 really no marital bond there. Yes, exactly. And I just, I really, I find it so objectionable

01:25:06.980 as a, as an American man who wants to see, you know, a resurgence of the best form of masculinity

01:25:12.360 is just that sort of, you know, that beating down of the lowest form of man is really, really bad.

01:25:20.000 And it needs to stop. And we can, we see it in all sorts of fictional telling of it's always the

01:25:25.120 dad who kind of doesn't know what's going on, doesn't pay the bills. He's like mildly overweight

01:25:28.780 anyway, but no, the, at its core, Michelle Obama is a very interesting story because

01:25:34.740 the Democrats thought that she would save them at some point because they're so celebrity focused

01:25:40.160 on the Democrat party. And hilariously, we, as Republicans have never been celebrity focused.

01:25:45.140 We just happened to get Donald Trump who kind of came down the escalator and kind of just

01:25:49.160 reinvigorated the Republican party in a way we never could. But now the Democrat party, I look around,

01:25:54.160 who are they going to turn to? And again, that's a whole deeper and more, you know, robust conversation,

01:25:59.180 but the America does not want someone who is just going to kind of emotionalist complain their way

01:26:07.840 to the, the, the future of the Democrat party. And yeah, one last note on that ad, not only did it

01:26:14.400 not work, I think it backfired in a major way. I think a lot of moms and a lot of wives found it to be

01:26:19.720 so insulting that marriages are just kind of like these kind of separate domains and they're not

01:26:26.400 a covenant between, um, husband and wife. And I remember I came out really hard against that ad,

01:26:31.400 Megan. And so many libs were like, I'm never going to tell my husband who I vote for. It's none of his

01:26:37.040 business. I'm like, yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure that marriage is going to last really long.

01:26:41.280 Right. Right. That, that, that, that, that's, that sounds like a recipe for success,

01:26:45.820 but that's what they think of Republicans that they think if you have a traditional marriage,

01:26:49.440 let's say, or, or a one in which the husband is the primary wage earner and the mom is a more

01:26:54.960 traditional stay-at-home wife that she's controlled by the husband. Like you say, she has no agency.

01:27:00.640 She's not her own person. She can't make up her own mind or make it come to her own decisions.

01:27:04.580 She's a know-nothing Neanderthal. And this is female empowerment in their view to, to paint

01:27:09.760 Republican women who choose a different path from Michelle Obama as absolute nimrods who can't

01:27:15.600 make up their own minds or just controlled by their husbands and really just need to be coaxed

01:27:19.420 into that voting box to have one moment of empowerment. And it would be to vote for Kamala

01:27:23.220 Harris. It's not, as I point out, this is a, this is a, this is all of them. I mean, I keep calling

01:27:28.240 him Justin Bateman because I really want to make him into Justine, who's the good Bateman. He's Jason,

01:27:32.880 but it's not just Jason Bateman. It's not just Michelle Obama. It's not just Terry Moran,

01:27:37.680 all these people, these Democrat spokesmen, both the officials and the unofficials, the celebs,

01:27:42.680 the non-celebs that that is how they see the right half of the country. And we have to stop

01:27:46.520 patronizing their films, their television projects, their podcasts and making them rich. Why are we

01:27:53.240 helping them? You know, George Clooney is the latest, of course, who was totally complicit in covering up

01:27:59.220 the Joe Biden mental infirmity until he imploded. And his loser play is now being aired on CNN

01:28:06.100 because I guess they haven't gotten enough eyeballs on it. So they aired it on Saturday

01:28:10.300 night. Apparently nobody watched except for Brian Stelter. Brian Stelter watched it and thought it

01:28:14.200 was deeply profound, Charlie. It was deeply profound. And then he gave an interview, George Clooney did,

01:28:20.620 on CNN. And here's a clip from his predictions. I know you were waiting. You think you're close to

01:28:25.720 Trump world? He's even, he's even closer. He's got the inside scoop on what's going to happen with

01:28:30.640 Trumpism post Donald Trump. It's top 31. Do you think Trumpism lasts beyond this term?

01:28:40.520 Don't think so. I think, I think it'd be very hard to do it. Remember this, Donald Trump is a celebrity.

01:28:45.880 That's what he is. I mean, he's got a, you know, he has a star on Hollywood Boulevard. I don't have a

01:28:50.400 star on Hollywood Boulevard. He's, I'm not lobbying for one. I'm just saying, you know,

01:28:55.120 seems like an oversight, by the way. What's going on? He's a celebrity and he's the president

01:29:01.000 of the United States. And so he has been elected, duly elected, fair deal. I'm not complaining about

01:29:05.880 that. That's how it works. That's how this democracy works. But he's also a celebrity and

01:29:11.040 he is charming. And to the people who like him, they think he's funny. To a great many others,

01:29:17.520 they don't. And so when he is finished and he will be finished, they're going to have to go looking

01:29:22.960 for someone who can deliver the message that he delivered, uh, with the same kind of charisma.

01:29:29.300 And they don't have that. Thoughts? Well, first of all, I have to say, I hate how good of an actor

01:29:35.060 he is. I'm sorry. I just have to say it. He's like, actually a good actor. I know people might

01:29:39.360 disagree, but I, I do think he's a good actor. Number two, that's a little bit actually more of

01:29:44.660 a watered down Clooney than I would have expected before watching that. Meaning he like acknowledged

01:29:49.440 Trump won. And it was, it was a little less like rage induced. It was better than the Bateman clip.

01:29:54.400 Let me put it that way. It was much better than the Bateman one. But the third one, I think that,

01:29:58.380 uh, Clooney of course is wrong about the fundamental thing. I think, I think that Trumpism or MAGAism,

01:30:05.640 which is a better way of putting it is here to stay. We have JD Vance. We have this whole network

01:30:10.440 of decentralized truth tellers. You're one of them, Megan. I'm one of them. Tucker's, you know,

01:30:15.080 we have this incredible network that is going to push this forward. And I, that is big time

01:30:21.240 Democrat cope. If they think that this is just celebrity, it's a lot deeper than that. There

01:30:27.240 is a philosophical, there's a philosophical worldview under the Trump movement, and it might

01:30:33.640 shift a little bit. It might adjust, but it would, it is what our nation matters more than abstract

01:30:40.360 globalist ideology that we don't want men and female sports. You can call it common sense,

01:30:44.940 but a return to the normal life, a return to the good life in America, which is you're able to get

01:30:51.520 married and have children out. Be worried that your eight year old is going to have transgender

01:30:55.480 pornography presented to them that they want. We want to have a border. We don't want to have endless

01:31:00.840 war. I don't think that those sentiments are going anywhere, Megan. In fact, I think they are here to

01:31:06.360 stay. I think that they've taken over the Republican party and George Clooney can wish it and can hope

01:31:11.940 for it, but it is a major cope to just think that Donald Trump's ascent and popularity is simply due

01:31:18.540 to his popularity as a celebrity. I think it's a lot deeper than that. It's about a worldview that has

01:31:24.540 become very popular with the American people. Yeah. You just wait and find out George Clooney.

01:31:30.020 You just wait and see if it was just Donald Trump. That's right. Mark the moment. We're on the

01:31:35.940 subject of Broadway with George Clooney, so I've got to show you because this ties in perfectly.

01:31:39.980 Another reason why Donald Trump is not going to be a person specific phenomenon is the Democrats

01:31:46.360 have lost their mind culturally. Last night was the Tony Awards. You know, these are the awards like

01:31:52.260 we have the Emmys for television, we have the Oscars for movies, and we have the Tonys for Broadway.

01:31:57.300 And the person who won for best actor, which is interesting, that is a gendered term,

01:32:02.500 best actor in a play, is someone named Cole Escola. And now I am showing you a picture of

01:32:08.540 Cole Escola, which from afar you might not recognize as anything controversial. But if you zoom in on his

01:32:14.240 silver dress with a massive train, you will see something there, Charlie Kirk. Do you see it?

01:32:19.220 You might see it in the morning every day when you maybe shave your face. There's a lot of chest hair

01:32:24.540 down below because you're a man and so is Cole in a dress accepting for best actor, but a showing off

01:32:33.100 the decolletage area with full male chest hair because he's a they, them, but he accepts the award

01:32:41.980 for best actor. He's starring in Oh, Mary, where of course he has been cast as Mary Todd Lincoln.

01:32:48.400 They've chosen a male actor. As I told the audience, I've seen this myself in Macbeth,

01:32:52.460 where they had a female playing the son of the king. And she was somebody who had a blue Mohawk.

01:32:58.560 Okay. This is Broadway in today's day and age, except for operation mincemeat, which people

01:33:02.360 should run to see. And let me give you another cultural problem. The media continuing our same

01:33:07.880 themes, the Washington post voted Coles. One of the nine best looks on the red carpet Sunday night,

01:33:14.260 quote, from the Gibson girl updo to the impeccably groomed chest hair, all the way down to the saucy

01:33:23.760 bustle at the back. This whole look is a plucky style move befitting a trailblazing Broadway star.

01:33:32.040 People magazine to Escola wore a showstopping Cinderella blue gown inspired by the gown Bernadette

01:33:38.780 Peters wore to the 1999 ceremony showstopping and praising the look as one of the best with all of

01:33:46.140 the male hair. Oh, it's showstopping. It's definitely it's definitely showstopping. This is

01:33:53.560 this is a very important topic, and we probably don't have enough time to cover it. But the great

01:33:57.580 Roger Scruton, who was really big into aesthetics and art, and he was a conservative in the 20th

01:34:03.340 century, early 21st century, he would talk about how cultural degradation is ugly. And boy, is that

01:34:10.200 true. It's just, again, I'm not going to go after like the physical looks of this guy. It's just the

01:34:15.480 whole appearance is just such an affront to our senses. Nothing about that is elevating or pleasing

01:34:21.120 to look at a dude in a dress. I think that's a biological and I can't keep track. Biological

01:34:25.700 guy in a dress. I'm pretty sure it's a biological man. But he's wearing a dress with chest hair all over.

01:34:31.120 And the fact that the media and the critics like it goes to show that it's not about a appreciation

01:34:38.780 of the of what would be considered to be beautiful. Instead, it is about deconstruction. It's about

01:34:47.120 taking apart. Oh, wow. A man with chest hair in a dress that is boundary pushing. And you are only

01:34:53.360 continuing in the spiral of chaos and destruction. And again, it just goes to show like who wants to

01:34:59.840 look at that. I mean, you had that up on screen here. It's just gross. It's just kind of objectionable.

01:35:05.620 But that is the left. The left is visually ugly on the outside and they are philosophically ugly on

01:35:14.360 the inside. Well, I'm sorry, but I'm gonna have to bring up Kathy Griffin. I mean, a week after we

01:35:19.880 were great. What a rock star. I'm sorry. You're never going to come back at this rate. But

01:35:23.920 a week after we were forced to revisit the Rosie O'Donnell examination of her herpes sore,

01:35:29.580 which she blamed on President Trump, we have to talk about Kathy Griffin, who I'm just going to

01:35:33.380 be honest, isn't she's not doing her best. That's obvious. The Daily Mail ran photographs of Kathy

01:35:38.920 Griffin out on a walk the other day, and she was unrecognizable. She looks like she has aged

01:35:43.560 to twice her actual age out there walking in the wilderness. I'm not sure what's going on with her

01:35:48.640 other than deep unhappiness. We'll put the picture on the board as soon as my team gets it.

01:35:53.260 But she's not doing very well. Okay, so this is her actually just sitting in an interview. This

01:35:57.820 isn't it, but I'll show you in a minute. Then she goes over to the Don Lemon podcast. That's,

01:36:02.720 of course, what you're going to get over on Don Lemon. And they said the thing you're not allowed

01:36:06.480 to say, Charlie. You're definitely, I am assured you are not allowed to say this thing, but they said

01:36:10.680 the thing only in a different way. So it is allowed. You'll follow what I mean when you hear

01:36:14.880 Sat 35. Are you ready for a tinfoil hat moment? Yes. Okay, I'm just going to be bold and say this.

01:36:22.160 And, you know, you can take issue with this all you want. I do not think he won in a free and fair

01:36:28.780 election. How do you like that, lefties? Yeah, I said it. I'm Kathy Griffin, and I do not think

01:36:36.260 Trump won in a free and fair election. I believe there was tampering. I don't know. I don't know if it

01:36:42.800 was the Elon connection. Your gut is telling you something. My gut is telling me that something

01:36:48.060 was up with that. You're not far off. I won't say that I disagree with you. But, you know, I'm an

01:36:54.440 evidence person. I'd like to see the evidence. I think something was off. And especially, you know,

01:36:58.880 when someone said, oh, we've got this. And, you know, how do you know that? Okay, Don Lemon,

01:37:05.380 you literally thought that that missing Malaysia flight went into a black hole. So I don't think you

01:37:10.020 call yourself. I love this person. Yeah. So Trump stole the election.

01:37:15.080 They are such they are threats to democracy. Both of them. How dare they they they this is this is

01:37:21.820 this is this is the stuff insurrections is made of. Can we also just pause and say how bad the left is

01:37:27.020 at the podcast game? Once you take these people off of the the corporate funded cable news box,

01:37:35.400 it tells you a lot about whether or not that person has talent. Megan, to your great credit,

01:37:40.360 you're thriving even more on the podcast space because you have real talent and you really pursue

01:37:45.700 truth and people love listening to you. No one's listening to Don Lemon because he doesn't know

01:37:50.780 talent. He was just the divert. He was just diversity pick you put up on CNN and you could

01:37:55.300 you could see this with Brian Stelter. He failed or Chuck Todd. He's doing his party. Nobody's listening

01:37:59.900 to any of their stuff because because they they were nothing more than just a teleprompter reader

01:38:06.700 for their assigned network. That's all they were. Just read, you know, read it and you're done.

01:38:11.820 And then as soon as you take them outside of the box and they have to go survive out in the wild,

01:38:17.640 their shows don't do well. Nobody cares about it. No one actually wants to watch that content

01:38:23.320 because the the way that that cable works, especially CNN and MSNBC, those two networks

01:38:30.880 in particular, is that it's not meritocratic. It's not. It's that it's very much you climb the

01:38:36.900 ladder based on if you can appease your boss and if you can kind of trade favors. As soon as you get

01:38:42.800 into the podcast space, none of that matters. Your audience will be brutal to you. You're not

01:38:48.640 interesting. I'm done. You're not making sense. You're not going after the stories I like. And so

01:38:53.480 every day you and I probably get reports, Megan, downloads, uniques. How are we doing on the podcast

01:38:58.500 charts? Like it's very, very, very metric driven. And now Don Lamont and Kathy Griffin just goes to

01:39:04.220 show they actually have never had any talent. You take them out of that corporate funded environment,

01:39:09.520 they fail. And then as far as the the election denial goes, I just I just laugh for four years. We were

01:39:15.940 all called the worst people in the world because an election for 42,000 votes determined a presidential

01:39:21.600 election across three states, 10,000 votes in Arizona, 11,000 votes in Georgia and 21,000 votes

01:39:27.120 in Wisconsin in a way where mass mail-in voting was never embraced ever before. We had mass verifiable

01:39:32.400 censorship of the Hunter Biden laptop and Molly Hemingway's, you know, terrific book. And we just

01:39:37.380 asked questions and we were we were being told we were a threat to democracy. But now Kathy Griffin thinks

01:39:41.980 that what Elon satellites help Donald Trump win. Yeah. Keep going, Kathy Griffin. You look great.

01:39:47.800 Speaking of Elon, what's your take on the Elon Trump feud? You know, I've I know both of them

01:39:53.940 quite well. I think that at some point they're going to reconcile. I actually spoke to the president

01:39:59.160 yesterday and I didn't speak about that in particular, but we spoke about a lot of stuff

01:40:03.260 and he's in great spirits trying to end wars and trying to, you know, get the country back into a

01:40:07.760 better place. We did talk about the riots. I told him we stand behind him 100 percent.

01:40:10.700 I hope they reconcile. I think that they're much stronger together. Elon's already deleted those

01:40:15.760 tweets and you can already see he's signaling kind of more support for the Trump administration on his

01:40:20.940 Twitter. Yeah. In the last 24 hours. I would not be shocked if and again, I made this prediction the

01:40:26.660 day it all happened and people made fun of me and there were media articles against me. I said,

01:40:31.120 don't be surprised if Elon Musk stops by Mar-a-Lago for two scoops of ice cream before Christmas.

01:40:36.520 People said, oh, no way. I said, look, I know both these guys. And I also I know men. I know men when

01:40:42.340 they fight in a super intense way. It's almost very funny. Like men are like they get angry very,

01:40:48.640 very quick, but they also forgive very quick. I mean, I've seen fights of men where they are

01:40:52.440 saying the worst possible things and they're out getting beers afterwards and they kind of just

01:40:56.700 reconcile quite easily. And so I am hopeful optimistic. I'm doing everything I possibly can

01:41:01.680 try to bring this back together because I think we are stronger together. And look, I want to thank

01:41:07.220 Elon for buying X and liberating X. I think he's done some great stuff with Doge. Obviously, I don't

01:41:11.660 like what he said on X and I don't agree with a lot of it. In fact, he deleted it. So I don't know if

01:41:15.680 he even agrees with some of the stuff now that it's a couple of days later. So I hope these two

01:41:19.600 titans can come together to keep trying to save America. I totally agree with every word you said.

01:41:24.160 It was my take on it when it happened as well. They're going to make up. This is not permanent.

01:41:27.800 And there's a total fight and especially people with big egos and big responsibilities and big

01:41:32.920 personalities. And it's temporary. And he's not going to be a Democrat and supporting Democrat

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The Megyn Kelly Show - June 09, 2025

Dems Call Anti-ICE Riots “Peaceful,” and ABC Suspends Journalist for Trump Tweet, with Charlie Kirk ｜ Ep. 1089

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