The Megyn Kelly Show - August 28, 2025


Instant Politicization of Tragic Shooting, Investigators Speak Out on Haro Arrest： AM Update 8⧸28


Episode Stats

Length

17 minutes

Words per Minute

158.1898

Word Count

2,737

Sentence Count

195

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

5


Summary

On August 28th, 2019, a gunman opened fire at an Annunciation Catholic Church and K-8 school in Minneapolis. Two children, ages 8 and 10, were killed and 14 more were wounded, including three adults in their 80s.


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly.
00:00:35.520 It's Thursday, August 28th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.
00:00:40.360 Anybody who is using this as an opportunity to villainize our trans community
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00:00:48.760 A mass shooting targeting Christian children at a Catholic school and church,
00:00:52.680 and the left quit to excoriate guns and prayer.
00:00:56.280 Baby Emanuel was abused. Because of that abuse, he succumbed to those injuries.
00:01:01.940 Investigators speaking out for the first time about the arrest of missing baby Emanuel Harrell's parents
00:01:06.580 and the evidence they have against them.
00:01:09.480 And as Democrats struggle to appeal to voters, new polling insights offer an easy win.
00:01:14.980 Crack down on crime.
00:01:16.720 But will they?
00:01:17.460 All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.
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00:02:33.760 New details about the horrifying attack on a Catholic church
00:02:40.000 and private K-8 school in Minneapolis.
00:02:43.420 Students and staff of Annunciation Church
00:02:45.920 celebrating the first mass of the school year
00:02:48.660 when a shooter opened fire from outside,
00:02:51.360 raining bullets through the stained glass windows.
00:02:54.340 Two children, ages 8 and 10, were killed.
00:02:57.500 14 more children wounded, along with three adults in their 80s.
00:03:02.560 All those injured are expected to survive, thank God.
00:03:06.300 A fifth-grade student telling Fox 9 News what he experienced.
00:03:09.920 It was very scary.
00:03:13.220 It was like my friend got shot in the back.
00:03:17.080 He's in the hospital right now.
00:03:18.520 I think he's going to be okay.
00:03:20.000 He was, like, laying on top of me,
00:03:21.860 like, making sure I was safe, and he got hit.
00:03:24.480 So that was really brave of him.
00:03:27.500 It was super scary because, like,
00:03:31.000 we've never practiced it in the church.
00:03:33.680 We've only practiced it in the main school.
00:03:37.560 So we really didn't know what to do.
00:03:40.140 We just got into the pews,
00:03:41.560 and he shot through the stained glass windows.
00:03:44.120 We've only practiced it in the main school.
00:03:47.300 Our poor kids having to grow up like this.
00:03:50.460 The alleged suspect,
00:03:52.200 whose name we choose not to report
00:03:53.900 because doing so provides the infamy
00:03:55.840 these mass shooters seek,
00:03:57.920 is a 23-year-old male who identified as female.
00:04:01.280 He turned the gun on himself at the scene.
00:04:04.140 According to a yearbook obtained by CNN,
00:04:06.220 he graduated from the school in 2017.
00:04:09.160 His mother reportedly worked there
00:04:10.540 until her 2021 retirement.
00:04:13.080 Authorities say he had no prior criminal record,
00:04:15.660 but a pair of YouTube videos he appears to have posted
00:04:18.340 revealing a deeply disturbed individual.
00:04:21.640 The videos show a demented, handwritten diary
00:04:24.420 with a sketch of the presumed killer
00:04:26.720 staring into a mirror,
00:04:28.540 seeing the devil's reflection in return.
00:04:31.500 Another shows him stabbing,
00:04:33.300 a hand-drawn picture of a church,
00:04:36.280 and shows a shooting target
00:04:38.180 that has Jesus in its center.
00:04:41.360 Also in the videos,
00:04:42.460 the shooter showing off multiple weapons,
00:04:44.560 graffitied with phrases like,
00:04:46.120 kill Trump,
00:04:47.120 where is your God,
00:04:48.660 and for the children.
00:04:50.740 FBI Director Cash Patel posting to X,
00:04:53.160 quote,
00:04:53.720 the FBI is investigating this shooting
00:04:55.580 as an act of domestic terrorism
00:04:57.240 and hate crime targeting Catholics.
00:04:59.360 Minnesota Police Chief Brian O'Hara
00:05:01.880 Wednesday afternoon
00:05:02.800 with details on the investigation.
00:05:05.140 As to the weapons used to perpetrate
00:05:07.300 this horrific attack,
00:05:09.020 there was a rifle,
00:05:10.160 a shotgun,
00:05:11.060 and a pistol.
00:05:12.260 All three had been lawfully purchased
00:05:14.360 by the shooter.
00:05:16.100 At this stage,
00:05:16.940 we believe that the shooter had acted alone.
00:05:19.460 There is no indication of other suspects
00:05:21.440 directly involved in carrying out this attack.
00:05:24.820 Our investigators are working with other agencies
00:05:27.600 in the process of executing four search warrants.
00:05:30.980 One is for the church itself
00:05:32.620 where this crime occurred.
00:05:34.600 The other three are residences nearby in the metro
00:05:38.740 that are related to this shooter.
00:05:41.220 Additional firearms are being recovered
00:05:43.520 from those three residential locations
00:05:45.700 as we speak.
00:05:47.100 Independent journalist Andy Ngo,
00:05:48.840 posting to X,
00:05:49.700 quote,
00:05:50.020 today's killing of Christian children
00:05:51.620 at a church in Minneapolis,
00:05:53.460 occurred in the context of a surge
00:05:55.160 in far-left trans propaganda.
00:05:57.600 Encouraging Trantifa and other leftists
00:06:00.120 to take up arms to kill transphobes
00:06:02.400 and fascists.
00:06:04.100 Their targets?
00:06:05.020 Christians and conservatives.
00:06:07.140 I have been warning and reporting
00:06:08.460 on this phenomenon for years
00:06:09.960 and am called a liar by liberal media
00:06:11.980 and targeted with death threats
00:06:13.940 by the far left.
00:06:15.500 Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry on Wednesday
00:06:17.960 attempting to deflect from the facts.
00:06:20.420 I have heard about a whole lot of hate
00:06:22.980 that's being directed at our trans community.
00:06:25.600 Anybody who is using this as an opportunity
00:06:29.300 to villainize our trans community
00:06:31.480 or any other community out there
00:06:33.960 has lost their sense of common humanity.
00:06:37.200 We should not be operating out of a place
00:06:39.720 of hate for anyone.
00:06:41.920 We should be operating from a place
00:06:43.840 of love for our kids.
00:06:46.020 Earlier in the day,
00:06:47.320 Fry chastising Christians
00:06:48.780 and others who would dare turn to prayer
00:06:50.780 in the wake of this horrific act.
00:06:53.300 Don't just say this is about thoughts
00:06:54.780 and prayers right now.
00:06:55.840 These kids were literally praying.
00:06:58.040 It was the first week of school.
00:07:00.700 They were in a church.
00:07:02.760 These are kids that should be learning
00:07:04.940 with their friends.
00:07:06.620 Of course, Mayor Fry had no trouble
00:07:08.380 kneeling in front of George Floyd's
00:07:10.640 gold casket back in 2020.
00:07:12.300 He seemed to understand the value of prayer then.
00:07:16.480 MSNBC, MSNOW, I guess we're really doing that.
00:07:20.120 Host Jen Psaki ranting on X, quote,
00:07:23.280 Prayer is not freaking enough.
00:07:25.400 Prayer does not end school shootings.
00:07:27.660 Prayers do not make parents feel safe
00:07:29.320 sending their kid to school.
00:07:31.080 Prayer does not bring these kids back.
00:07:33.060 Enough with the thoughts and prayers.
00:07:35.100 As if conservatives advocate for no change
00:07:38.180 in the wake of these tragedies,
00:07:40.300 but simply want more prayer.
00:07:42.300 Which is entirely untrue.
00:07:44.040 They want soft targets like schools
00:07:46.560 to be better protected, for one thing, Jen.
00:07:49.920 And the suggestion that prayer is useless
00:07:52.080 is equally wrong.
00:07:54.260 Archbishop Bernard Hebda oversees
00:07:56.600 the Catholic communities of St. Paul
00:07:58.040 in Minneapolis.
00:07:59.240 On Wednesday, he offered
00:08:00.380 a very different message.
00:08:02.120 Brothers and sisters,
00:08:02.980 we have to be men and women of hope.
00:08:06.660 Already today, I've been receiving messages
00:08:08.800 from all over our country
00:08:10.480 promising prayers.
00:08:12.360 And I think it's the prayers of the feet
00:08:13.980 as well, Principal.
00:08:15.360 That is, for me, is a source of hope.
00:08:17.780 Just as we see families stepping forward
00:08:20.560 to help those who have been impacted
00:08:22.880 by this terrible tragedy.
00:08:25.540 Very grateful that Principal DeVore
00:08:27.280 spoke about prayer.
00:08:29.320 Certainly that the bell in the Catholic Church
00:08:32.040 is always a call to prayer.
00:08:33.420 And so it's a reminder for us,
00:08:35.460 for sure, to be praying.
00:08:37.640 And we have to recognize
00:08:38.940 that it's through prayer
00:08:40.520 and through that prayer of the feet,
00:08:42.060 through that action,
00:08:43.280 that we can indeed make a difference.
00:08:45.180 That has to be the source of our hope.
00:08:49.980 Coming up, authorities reveal
00:08:51.760 what they believe was the cause of death
00:08:53.460 in the case of missing baby Emmanuel Harrow.
00:08:56.080 And why Democrats,
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00:10:12.960 Authorities in Riverside
00:10:14.320 and San Bernardino counties
00:10:15.700 in California
00:10:16.500 speaking out for the first time
00:10:18.180 about the case against the parents
00:10:19.880 of missing seven-month-old baby
00:10:21.780 Emmanuel Harrow.
00:10:23.640 32-year-old Jake
00:10:24.720 and 41-year-old Rebecca Harrow
00:10:26.420 behind bars,
00:10:27.740 each charged with murder
00:10:29.040 and filing a false police report, too,
00:10:31.860 in connection with the disappearance
00:10:33.020 of their infant son,
00:10:34.520 whom investigators presume is dead.
00:10:37.220 Authorities arresting the pair
00:10:38.260 Friday morning
00:10:38.960 after determining baby Emmanuel
00:10:40.740 was not kidnapped
00:10:41.700 as originally claimed
00:10:43.240 by Rebecca on August 14th.
00:10:45.820 Riverside County DA Mike Hester
00:10:47.560 on what they believe
00:10:48.640 happened to Emmanuel.
00:10:49.960 The filing in this case
00:10:51.960 reflects our belief
00:10:53.920 that baby Emmanuel was abused,
00:10:56.980 victim of child abuse,
00:10:58.440 over time,
00:10:59.480 and that eventually,
00:11:01.180 because of that abuse,
00:11:02.160 he succumbed to those injuries.
00:11:03.800 That's what we believe.
00:11:05.100 Hester telling the press
00:11:06.060 investigators believe
00:11:07.100 they know where to look
00:11:08.080 for the remains,
00:11:08.960 but stressing that
00:11:09.720 even without recovering
00:11:11.160 Emmanuel's body,
00:11:12.620 prosecutors are confident
00:11:13.720 they can secure a conviction.
00:11:15.920 A no-body homicide
00:11:17.040 is always difficult,
00:11:18.020 but obviously with an infant,
00:11:19.960 we know that baby Emmanuel
00:11:21.500 didn't leave on his own
00:11:23.500 or didn't leave town.
00:11:25.540 Obviously, it's a little different
00:11:27.080 when you're talking
00:11:27.540 about an infant,
00:11:28.700 but we have a lot of experience
00:11:30.780 in this county
00:11:31.780 trying no-body homicides,
00:11:33.780 and we're confident
00:11:34.940 that we can gain convictions
00:11:36.220 in this case.
00:11:37.540 San Bernardino County Sheriff
00:11:39.140 Shannon Dykus
00:11:40.000 elaborating on cooperation
00:11:41.500 from the parents
00:11:42.780 after Jake was spotted
00:11:44.260 with a search team
00:11:45.200 on Sunday in Moreno Valley.
00:11:47.240 I'm not going to go
00:11:48.260 into grave detail about that,
00:11:49.620 but there is some level
00:11:50.460 of cooperation
00:11:51.220 with the suspects
00:11:51.920 involved in this,
00:11:52.820 and our job is
00:11:53.360 to follow every lead.
00:11:54.760 We have to understand
00:11:55.640 what you're dealing with
00:11:56.580 is an experienced
00:11:57.700 child abuser
00:11:58.720 that is aware
00:11:59.920 of a previous case,
00:12:01.760 that is aware
00:12:02.460 of evidentiary things
00:12:03.680 that we are certainly
00:12:04.580 concerned with.
00:12:05.380 So we're going to take
00:12:06.080 every step
00:12:06.900 to not only work
00:12:08.500 with any suspect
00:12:10.060 or witness involved
00:12:11.020 in this,
00:12:11.920 because at the end
00:12:12.600 of the day,
00:12:13.080 we have to bring
00:12:13.740 a case to Mike
00:12:14.640 and they have to charge it,
00:12:15.780 and we have to make sure
00:12:16.500 that every single thing,
00:12:17.660 no matter what is told
00:12:18.600 to us or what we discover
00:12:19.780 in terms of evidence,
00:12:20.920 is the right thing
00:12:22.080 and that we follow it
00:12:22.880 up extensively.
00:12:24.240 On Wednesday,
00:12:25.200 reports surfacing
00:12:25.940 that Jake confessed
00:12:26.860 from behind bars
00:12:27.740 to killing Emmanuel,
00:12:29.260 D.A. Hester flatly
00:12:30.340 denying those reports,
00:12:32.080 then saying his office
00:12:33.100 is not interested
00:12:33.880 in a plea bargain
00:12:35.000 with either Jake
00:12:35.960 or Rebecca.
00:12:37.180 Both parents do back
00:12:38.160 in court on September 4th,
00:12:39.860 where they are expected
00:12:40.660 to enter a plea.
00:12:42.080 Bail is set
00:12:42.640 at $1 million each.
00:12:44.220 Democrats reportedly
00:12:47.440 considering a national convention
00:12:49.100 before the 2026 midterms
00:12:51.420 as the party struggles
00:12:52.800 to gain traction
00:12:53.580 with voters,
00:12:54.780 an unusual move
00:12:55.740 as national conventions
00:12:57.180 are typically tied
00:12:58.320 to presidential election cycles.
00:13:01.200 Axios reporting
00:13:01.960 the event would allow
00:13:02.780 Democrats to fundraise
00:13:03.960 and score media attention
00:13:05.200 in their bid
00:13:06.280 to win back control
00:13:07.140 of Congress in 2026
00:13:08.600 and could double
00:13:09.740 as a launching pad
00:13:11.060 for the potential
00:13:12.140 2028 presidential candidates
00:13:13.980 on Team Blue.
00:13:15.500 This is Democrats
00:13:16.280 suffer from record
00:13:17.260 low favorability,
00:13:18.800 a Wall Street Journal
00:13:19.460 poll from July
00:13:20.420 finding 63% of voters
00:13:22.820 hold an unfavorable view
00:13:24.980 of the party
00:13:25.860 compared to 33%
00:13:27.640 who say their view
00:13:28.880 is favorable.
00:13:30.040 That is the worst showing
00:13:31.100 for Democrats
00:13:31.760 in 35 years.
00:13:33.940 On Sunday,
00:13:34.680 CNN data analyst
00:13:35.900 Harry Enten
00:13:36.580 spelling out
00:13:37.220 more troubling statistics
00:13:38.640 for Dems.
00:13:39.840 Republicans are dominating
00:13:41.360 voter registration
00:13:42.340 in swing states.
00:13:43.980 Look, the Democratic brand
00:13:45.260 right now
00:13:45.780 has about the appeal
00:13:46.920 with the American voter
00:13:48.100 as the Crack-O-Barrel
00:13:49.240 rebrand has
00:13:50.600 with the American consumers.
00:13:52.400 Bad, bad, bad.
00:13:53.940 What are you doing?
00:13:55.000 Look, the Republican party
00:13:56.000 is in their best position
00:13:57.220 at this point in the cycle
00:13:58.320 since at least 2005
00:14:00.720 in all four
00:14:01.880 of these key battleground states.
00:14:03.480 Well, let's compare it
00:14:04.240 to this point
00:14:04.820 during their first
00:14:05.560 Trump administration
00:14:06.460 all the way back in 2017.
00:14:08.440 Arizona,
00:14:09.140 you got a Republican gain
00:14:10.260 of three points.
00:14:11.340 Okay, how about Nevada?
00:14:12.760 Up the hill we go,
00:14:13.900 even though we're sticking
00:14:14.560 in the Southwest,
00:14:15.700 a gain of six points.
00:14:16.680 How about, again,
00:14:17.380 we come to the East Coast,
00:14:19.060 North Carolina,
00:14:19.720 a gain of eight points
00:14:20.780 for the Republicans.
00:14:21.760 And in the Keystone State,
00:14:23.140 in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania,
00:14:24.560 again, we're talking
00:14:25.340 about a gain of eight points.
00:14:27.080 My goodness gracious
00:14:28.160 for Republicans,
00:14:29.320 they are converting
00:14:30.340 old former Democrats
00:14:32.540 to their side of the ledger
00:14:33.780 as well as picking up
00:14:34.980 new voters,
00:14:35.620 registering new voters,
00:14:36.500 and it absolutely paid off
00:14:37.800 for them back
00:14:38.780 in the 2024 election.
00:14:41.440 This comes as many top Dems
00:14:42.880 are vocally opposing
00:14:44.000 the Trump administration's
00:14:45.240 crime crackdown in D.C.,
00:14:47.240 something Mr. Trump
00:14:48.120 would like to expand
00:14:49.020 to other cities and states.
00:14:51.360 One speaker from
00:14:52.120 a criminal justice
00:14:52.940 reform institute
00:14:53.880 telling fellow Dems
00:14:55.000 at the DNC summer meeting
00:14:56.240 to lean into the debate,
00:14:58.360 but not to get distracted
00:14:59.860 by things that don't
00:15:01.040 actually matter to Americans,
00:15:03.220 like carjackings.
00:15:04.940 Call out what Trump is doing
00:15:06.500 and say the reason crime
00:15:08.120 is going down our communities
00:15:09.280 and they're becoming safer
00:15:10.060 is because of us.
00:15:11.780 Where does Trump go?
00:15:13.180 Migrant crime, carjackings,
00:15:14.960 the really lurid, awful stuff
00:15:16.860 that is a crazy, crazy visual.
00:15:19.160 Don't take the bait
00:15:20.000 because most Americans
00:15:21.340 are more worried about
00:15:22.640 how are we going to address
00:15:23.740 mental health issues,
00:15:25.520 the visible homelessness
00:15:26.680 that we see on streets,
00:15:29.040 and how do we deal
00:15:30.600 with mental health
00:15:31.760 and other issues
00:15:32.640 that drive the sort of
00:15:33.640 random incidents
00:15:34.500 that scare all of us.
00:15:35.760 That's what you should
00:15:37.060 be talking about.
00:15:38.080 That's where you should
00:15:38.680 be focused.
00:15:39.220 Don't take the bait
00:15:40.040 in talking about
00:15:40.720 migrant crime or carjackings
00:15:43.000 or the things that
00:15:43.720 actually don't matter
00:15:44.780 to that many Americans.
00:15:46.360 As it turns out,
00:15:47.480 new AP polling showing
00:15:48.780 81% of Americans
00:15:50.620 are in fact deeply concerned
00:15:52.920 about crime in big cities.
00:15:55.400 55% say deploying
00:15:56.760 the National Guard
00:15:57.560 to assist local police
00:15:58.960 is acceptable,
00:16:00.280 compared to 37% who disagree.
00:16:03.220 President Trump's
00:16:03.880 federal takeover
00:16:04.660 of D.C. police
00:16:05.740 and reported plans
00:16:07.060 to mobilize
00:16:07.980 the National Guard
00:16:08.980 to more troubled cities
00:16:10.560 whose state governors
00:16:11.860 invite them,
00:16:13.080 appearing to boost
00:16:14.000 his favorability.
00:16:15.400 Mr. Trump's overall
00:16:16.300 approval rating
00:16:17.020 rising from 40% in July
00:16:18.980 to 45% today,
00:16:20.980 his highest ever
00:16:21.900 in that poll,
00:16:23.020 with 53% of adults
00:16:24.660 approving of Mr. Trump's
00:16:26.140 handling of crime.
00:16:28.020 It's actually
00:16:28.640 his best issue.
00:16:29.680 And that'll do it
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