The Megyn Kelly Show - August 17, 2026


Jason Arday Found Dead, Mangione Pleads Guilty in Federal Case, USS Lincoln Relief: AM Update 8⧸17


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00:00:30.000 Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. It's Monday, August 17th, 2026, and this is your AM
00:00:35.420 Update. Former Cambridge professor Jason Arde found dead days after resigning amid allegations
00:00:42.200 of plagiarism and lying. New York law does not permit a person to be prosecuted and punished
00:00:48.580 twice for the exact same crime. Luigi Mangione pleading guilty in federal court to stalking
00:00:55.220 charges in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, then moving to get his separate
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00:01:07.140 replaced with another very similar ship. The USS George Washington heading to the Middle East to
00:01:12.760 relieve the USS Abraham Lincoln amid growing scrutiny over conditions aboard the carrier.
00:01:18.740 And CBS News correspondent Matt Guttman facing workplace harassment allegations in a new wrongful
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00:03:10.180 former cambridge university professor jason arday found dead at his london home friday
00:03:17.780 little more than a week after resigning amid mounting allegations of plagiarism and
00:03:22.720 lying about his biography central to the extraordinary personal story that helped
00:03:27.860 make him famous arday's memoir great and unfortunate things hitting bookstores last
00:03:33.360 week the 41 year old reportedly found unresponsive at a home in the battersea neighborhood of south
00:03:40.080 London. Police describing his death as unexpected but saying it is not suspicious, and with no cause
00:03:46.000 of death publicly announced, it is believed to have been a suicide. Arday becoming an international
00:03:51.540 academic celebrity in 2023 when, at 37, he was named Cambridge University's youngest ever Black
00:03:58.780 professor. His rise powered by an extraordinary, unbelievable, alleged life story. The son of
00:04:06.860 Ghanaian immigrants, Ardeh said he was diagnosed with autism as a child, that he did not speak
00:04:12.480 until he was almost 12, could not read or write until 18, and nevertheless went on to earn a
00:04:18.580 doctorate before becoming a professor at one of the world's most prestigious universities.
00:04:24.180 Over the years, Ardeh claiming he survived a remarkable series of medical and personal
00:04:28.720 challenges, including epilepsy, cancer, a brain tumor, a stroke, and more, while simultaneously
00:04:35.480 becoming one of the world's most elite endurance athletes and distance runners, not to mention
00:04:41.800 prolific charity fundraiser. Then the dam broke. Over the past several weeks, substantial parts
00:04:47.920 of his origin story beginning to come undone. The controversy initially centering on plagiarism
00:04:53.900 allegations involving Arde's doctoral dissertation, questions then spreading well beyond his academic
00:04:59.720 record to virtually every part of his bio. The Washington Free Beacon reporting last week that
00:05:05.440 several dramatic episodes presented as true in Arde's newly released memoir bear striking
00:05:11.640 similarities to storylines from movies and television programs he had previously discussed
00:05:16.740 enjoying. Those disputed accounts reportedly including stories surrounding his childhood
00:05:21.720 disabilities and an alleged violent attack Arde said left him with epilepsy, but in which
00:05:28.500 he became the hero, forgiving his attackers and becoming godfather to one of their children.
00:05:34.820 Cambridge initially defending Arday after saying the plagiarism allegations were for his doctoral
00:05:39.960 university to handle, before opening a new investigation earlier this month after receiving
00:05:45.660 what the university described as additional information. Arday resigning that same day
00:05:51.280 without admitting wrongdoing. In an open resignation letter, Arday writing, quote,
00:05:55.740 I no longer wish to feel as though I am living under a constant spotlight
00:05:59.600 where every aspect of my life is subject to public examination and judgment.
00:06:04.880 In a statement released through Simon & Schuster UK following his death,
00:06:09.000 his family accusing critics of subjecting Arde to what they called a years-long, quote,
00:06:13.860 campaign of sustained abuse, arguing a, quote, campaign of misinformation had ultimately become
00:06:20.140 too much for him. British Prime Minister Andy Burnham reacting to the news of Arde's death.
00:06:25.740 It's a tragedy on so many levels, but particularly just for everybody who knew Jason, his family, obviously, his friends, we think of them today.
00:06:39.920 It's not a moment for any rushing to judgment. It's a moment for reflection, I would say.
00:06:44.640 The university's vice chancellor saying Cambridge is now focused on supporting its community following Arde's death.
00:06:51.840 Others arguing Arde's death should force scrutiny not just of the accusations against him,
00:06:56.780 but of Cambridge's decision to elevate him in the first place, making him a target.
00:07:02.060 We'll have more on this later today on the MK Show.
00:07:06.320 Luigi Mangione pleading guilty on Friday to federal stalking charges in the killing of
00:07:11.180 UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, then immediately moving to use that conviction
00:07:16.420 to try to wipe out the separate murder case against him in New York State Court.
00:07:21.240 Mangione facing two federal counts of stalking, resulting in death over the December 2024 killing.
00:07:28.040 Prosecutors accuse him of tracking down Thompson before shooting him outside a Manhattan hotel.
00:07:33.820 28-year-old Mangione appearing in federal court in Manhattan Friday in a beige prison uniform and
00:07:39.400 ankle shackles, telling Judge Margaret Garnett his mind was clear and that he understood he
00:07:44.740 could face as much as life in prison. Mangione entering the guilty plea without any deal in
00:07:50.120 place with federal prosecutors, leaving his sentence entirely up to the judge. Prosecutors
00:07:55.760 calculating the federal sentencing guidelines at roughly 24 to 30 years, Judge Garnett saying
00:08:01.520 she will determine the appropriate sentence herself. Mangione giving the court his own
00:08:06.180 account of the crime, describing years of back pain, saying he learned UnitedHealthcare would
00:08:11.060 hold its annual investor conference in Manhattan in December 2024, and that he researched where
00:08:17.280 it would take place. Mangione telling the judge, quote, in November of 2024, I traveled from
00:08:22.820 outside of New York State to Manhattan. Mangione adding that he emailed United Healthcare
00:08:28.460 Leadership, quote, posing as an investor at a firm managing over $50 billion in assets
00:08:34.080 and requesting information about the conference. Mangione saying he received a response within
00:08:39.740 an hour, the statement concluding, quote, I shot Mr. Thompson in Manhattan and he died.
00:08:45.400 I knew what I was doing was illegal. CNN reports Thompson's widow became visibly
00:08:51.000 emotional as Mangione entered his plea. Mangione's federal sentencing now set for
00:08:55.960 December 18th. Almost immediately after the proceeding, Mangione's attorneys filing a
00:09:01.700 motion asking a New York state judge to dismiss the separate state charges against him. Defense
00:09:07.820 attorney Karen Friedman Agnifolo speaking outside court. It was a single tragic event,
00:09:13.600 yet he's being prosecuted twice for the same conduct.
00:09:17.640 Despite this being a single isolated event,
00:09:20.580 Mr. Mangione has been unfairly treated since the outset in every way
00:09:24.620 and has successfully fought off terrorism charges and the death penalty
00:09:29.700 while also fighting at the same time two simultaneous prosecutions in two jurisdictions
00:09:35.560 who are trying to punish him twice for the exact conduct.
00:09:39.620 New York law does not permit a person to be prosecuted and punished twice for the exact
00:09:45.860 same crime under a statute that governs successive prosecutions. It's also known as the double
00:09:52.380 jeopardy law. Today's guilty plea triggers this statute. The Manhattan DA's office sees the
00:09:59.640 matter very differently, insisting the state murder case can and will move forward. The major
00:10:05.280 legal question now shifting to whether Mangione's federal guilty plea can actually block New York
00:10:10.540 from prosecuting him over the same killing. We spoke with the MK True Crime Show co-host Phil
00:10:16.340 Holloway, who tells us Mangione's attorneys made the strongest move available to them.
00:10:21.600 I've got to hand it to his lawyers because Mangione's lawyers did probably the best thing
00:10:27.480 they could have done for their client considering that he gunned someone down in the street right
00:10:33.400 there in the public for everyone to see. As this plays out, you know, they're trying to get the
00:10:39.980 federal charges to essentially supersede the state charges. And if the state charges go away,
00:10:45.680 then he's simply left with federal sentencing, which could be as little as 20 years, but could
00:10:51.960 also be up to like life in prison. With Mangione now convicted federally, Holloway breaking down
00:10:57.540 the narrower question facing the state court, whether New York can still prosecute the same
00:11:02.680 killing under a different charge. New York law basically says if the federal government has
00:11:08.440 prosecuted someone for a certain crime, then New York will not prosecute them for the same
00:11:14.480 transaction or occurrence. And that's the key words, transaction or occurrence. Well, clearly,
00:11:21.120 this is the same criminal transaction. Now, there are a few exceptions that the prosecutors in New
00:11:29.700 York will say apply to keep the New York case alive. Certain things like if there's a different
00:11:36.740 element or certain factual differences, different harms that the different criminal statutes are
00:11:43.520 trying to prevent against, there's an argument to be made that double jeopardy will not apply.
00:11:49.440 But I think it's an uphill swim for the prosecutors in New York. I think that in all likelihood,
00:11:57.000 we may very well see the New York case dismissed eventually on double jeopardy ground.
00:12:02.440 If the state case does survive, Holloway says Mangione's own words in federal court
00:12:07.280 could become a major problem for his defense.
00:12:10.300 In the event that the New York state trial does go forward,
00:12:14.840 every word uttered by Mangione in federal court,
00:12:18.620 specifically the parts where he admitted to gunning down his victim in cold blood,
00:12:23.980 Those were his words.
00:12:25.500 Everything you say in court can and will be used against you, right?
00:12:29.220 So that's the way that's going to play out.
00:12:31.120 He absolutely will have his own words used against him.
00:12:35.500 So I think that the defense, the Mangione defense, is betting the farm on double jeopardy
00:12:41.600 because at this point, there's really no way unless you get a rogue juror of some kind of stealth juror
00:12:48.980 who's hell-bent to derail the trial.
00:12:51.120 There's just no way he can win the New York case now.
00:12:54.680 Even after the federal case and New York murder case are resolved,
00:12:58.680 Mangione still has another prosecution waiting for him in Pennsylvania,
00:13:02.720 stemming from his arrest there five days after Thompson's killing.
00:13:06.400 Holloway tells us what to expect after the New York case is resolved.
00:13:10.400 It's important to remember that he's still facing very serious charges in the state of Pennsylvania.
00:13:15.460 And, of course, there is no double jeopardy considerations with regard to the Pennsylvania charges.
00:13:21.880 And they're very serious.
00:13:23.160 He's charged with felony forgery, carrying a firearm without a license, which is also a felony, various misdemeanors, including tampering with records, possessing instruments of a crime, and false identification.
00:13:36.060 He's facing, theoretically, up to a maximum of 28 years in the Pennsylvania case.
00:13:42.120 So once New York and the federal courts get finished with Luigi Mangione off to Pennsylvania, he goes for Pennsylvania prosecution.
00:13:53.200 Coming up, the USS Abraham Lincoln finally heading home after an extended Middle East deployment as sailors and their families speak out about conditions aboard the carrier.
00:14:03.840 and a former ABC News producer accusing now CBS News correspondent Matt Guttman
00:14:10.120 of workplace harassment in a new lawsuit.
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00:15:11.840 The USS George Washington aircraft carrier now heading to the Middle East
00:15:16.200 to relieve the USS Abraham Lincoln, ending an unusually long wartime stretch for the Lincoln
00:15:22.040 amid growing scrutiny over conditions aboard the carrier. U.S. officials telling the Wall
00:15:27.880 Street Journal, the rotation was already planned before those concerns began drawing widespread
00:15:32.600 attention. The Lincoln leaving San Diego for what was initially expected to be a roughly
00:15:37.700 seven-month deployment last November to the Pacific, before being redirected to the Middle
00:15:42.800 East in January ahead of the war with Iran. The carrier playing a major role in Operation Epic
00:15:49.220 Fury and remaining in the region to support the ongoing blockade of Iranian ports. The ship now
00:15:55.500 deployed for more than 250 days, including more than 200 days without a port call, according to
00:16:01.660 Democrat Senator Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut. That extended stretch at sea, increasingly
00:16:07.100 becoming the focus of reports about conditions aboard the Lincoln. Earlier this month, MSNOW
00:16:12.700 reporting that a dozen family members described shortages of fresh food and basic hygiene supplies,
00:16:18.860 along with plumbing problems, mold, and growing concern about the strain on sailors.
00:16:24.800 CNN reporting one sailor went overboard August 3rd, wearing a life vest.
00:16:30.080 That sailor rescued, medically evaluated, and later taken off the ship for additional care.
00:16:36.000 The Navy reportedly treating the incident as a mental health incident.
00:16:40.180 Military Times separately reporting, based on accounts from family members,
00:16:44.080 that multiple sailors have attempted to go overboard during the extended deployment.
00:16:49.400 President Trump addressing the controversy on Friday,
00:16:51.800 confirming to reporters the Lincoln would soon be replaced.
00:16:56.080 Family members of U.S. service members are concerned about the conditions on war
00:17:00.560 as Lincoln.
00:17:01.480 Well, no, that ship is moving. No, they're not.
00:17:03.660 That ship is moving right now, or very shortly, and it's being replaced with another very
00:17:09.020 similar ship.
00:17:09.680 Have the deployment gone off too long?
00:17:11.780 No, no, no. Not nearly long enough. Thank you, everybody.
00:17:16.320 Secretary of War Pete Hegseth calling the reports, quote,
00:17:19.740 completely misrepresented.
00:17:21.800 one wife of a service member aboard the Lincoln,
00:17:24.820 telling CNN on Friday she believes the administration is dismissing
00:17:28.700 legitimate concerns from sailors and their families.
00:17:32.400 Have some sympathy, some empathy, take some accountability
00:17:35.840 for what's going on with your military, your ships, in your war, in your war.
00:17:43.200 It's infuriating.
00:17:44.520 I mean, we heard what Hegseth said yesterday,
00:17:48.440 What the president is saying today, it's infuriating, essentially saying that families are lying and service members are lying, even though the proof is right here on my phone.
00:17:58.880 It is not fabricated. Nobody is lying.
00:18:02.040 Everybody is infuriating that they're not taking accountability and not having any sort of sympathy for our service members.
00:18:12.800 Although some of the most dramatic reports have focused on food, supplies, and plumbing,
00:18:18.460 CNN's Pamela Brown describing a more nuanced picture after she spent several days aboard the Lincoln last month.
00:18:25.300 Brown speaking with sailors who openly described low morale and the strain of the extended deployment,
00:18:31.240 while also hearing from crew members who spoke positively about their shipmates and their work.
00:18:36.280 In a text to Brown, one sailor writing, quote,
00:18:38.720 Yeah, we have days where it was bad, but I feel like they're showing all the bad and no good.
00:18:44.700 But another sailor telling Brown the bigger frustration was the repeated extension of a
00:18:49.040 deployment that was never expected to become a months-long combat mission. Officials telling
00:18:54.560 the Wall Street Journal the conditions described aboard the Lincoln are not necessarily unusual
00:18:59.300 during wartime, while acknowledging that going months without a port call can take a significant
00:19:04.920 toll on a crew. CENTCOM Commander Admiral Brad Cooper releasing a statement yesterday following
00:19:11.040 a trip aboard the Lincoln on Saturday, writing in part, quote, of the U.S. Navy's 11 active
00:19:16.580 aircraft carriers, the Lincoln currently has among the lowest number of cases related to
00:19:21.520 mental health. Admiral Cooper continuing, quote, this does not mean that all is perfect. Find any
00:19:27.360 of the nearly 4 million Navy veterans in America today and they will likely tell you that service
00:19:32.160 at sea for long periods is not for everyone. The CENTCOM commander adding that mental health
00:19:38.000 is another aspect of health, just like physical and spiritual health, and that it is a leadership
00:19:43.540 priority. CBS News correspondent Matt Guttman facing allegations of workplace harassment from
00:19:52.040 his old job brought by a former ABC News producer in a wrongful termination hostile work environment
00:19:58.600 lawsuit filed against Guttman, ABC News, and its parent company, Disney. Guttman now works at CBS
00:20:05.800 News after nearly two decades at ABC, joining CBS in January as one of the first major on-air
00:20:11.740 hires under editor-in-chief Barry Weiss. According to The Hollywood Reporter, now former ABC News
00:20:18.940 field producer Sumira Saeed, alleges Guttman created a hostile work environment during two
00:20:25.160 incidents while they worked together at the network. Saeed working at ABC from 2021 until
00:20:30.880 she was fired in March of 2025, with the lawsuit reportedly alleging that during one assignment,
00:20:36.580 she was the only woman on a team of men when Gutman began discussing the appearance of a
00:20:41.500 female correspondent. According to the suit, Gutman allegedly began rating the women's looks
00:20:46.820 numerically, with other male members of the crew joining in and discussing her body and appearance.
00:20:52.920 The lawsuit claiming the men then tried to bring Saeed into the conversation,
00:20:56.500 though she reportedly refused and told them the discussion was not appropriate.
00:21:00.960 Saeed alleging a second incident while she and Gutman were covering a press event for a movie
00:21:06.120 release, apparently in New York City. According to the lawsuit, the two disagreed over whether
00:21:11.320 the crew should leave the location when Gutman allegedly suggested Saeed must have a date in the
00:21:17.080 city, and that was why she wanted to stay. From the lawsuit, quote, the remark made audibly to
00:21:22.980 others demeaned Saeed and reduced her professional judgment to a sexualized stereotype. The lawsuit
00:21:29.560 now bringing renewed attention to Gutman's previous controversies during his years at ABC.
00:21:35.080 Last year, Gutman facing widespread backlash while covering the assassination of Charlie Kirk
00:21:40.520 after describing text messages between accused killer Tyler Robinson and his romantic partner,
00:21:46.240 furry trans person lance twiggs as follows it was very touching in a way that i think many of us
00:21:52.640 didn't expect a very intimate portrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and
00:21:59.640 the suspect himself with him repeatedly calling his roommate who was transitioning uh calling him
00:22:05.760 my love and i want to protect you my love um so it was this duality of someone who the attorney said
00:22:11.360 not only jeopardized the life of charlie kirk and the crowd but was doing it in front of children
00:22:15.620 which is one of the aggravating circumstances of this case.
00:22:18.420 And on the other hand, he was, you know, speaking so lovingly about his partner.
00:22:22.980 Gutman apologizing for those remarks the following day.
00:22:26.400 Saeed now seeking compensatory and punitive damages as well as attorney's fees.
00:22:31.360 CBS News declining to comment to The Hollywood Reporter,
00:22:34.500 while the outlet reports representatives for ABC News and Gutman also did not respond.
00:22:40.300 We will have legal analysis today on The MK Show.
00:22:43.240 and that'll do it for your am update i'm megan kelly join me back here for the mk show live on
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