The Megyn Kelly Show - August 16, 2026


Claus von Bülow: The FULL MK Confidential Series


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00:02:54.980 clarendon court is one of the grandest houses on one of the grandest streets in america the
00:03:03.780 mansion's wrought iron gates form the backdrop of grace kelly's final movie before she retires to
00:03:09.380 become the princess of monaco a beautiful wealthy high-class woman marrying into aristocracy a kind
00:03:17.360 of modern fairy tale in 1980 the newport rhode island mansion belongs to a real life beautiful
00:03:24.300 wealthy, high-class woman and her aristocrat husband. But behind those wrought iron gates
00:03:30.480 and gold inlaid doors, the real tale is grim. It is the morning of December 21st. The winter sun
00:03:39.020 shines on the sandstone walls of Clarendon Court, an oceanfront property exposed to the bitter wind
00:03:44.820 off the water. Inside, a 49-year-old woman lies unconscious on the cold marble floor of her
00:03:51.580 bathroom. She liked to sleep in a cold room, and the night before, she had asked for her
00:03:56.920 windows to be left open to the Atlantic. With the wind chill well below zero, the room turned
00:04:02.220 frigid. By morning, she has gone ice cold to the touch. Her body temperature falls into the low
00:04:09.360 80s. Her heart stops. The paramedics bring her back, but only part of the way. Martha Von Bulow,
00:04:17.620 the woman everyone calls Sunny, falls into a coma. She will never regain consciousness.
00:04:25.240 This would be a private tragedy if not for an eerie wrinkle. This exact scene has happened
00:04:30.720 before. One year earlier, almost to the day, in the same house, in the same wing, the same woman
00:04:38.100 was found unconscious on the same floor. That time, a doctor reached her in time. That time,
00:04:45.240 she woke up. One woman, two Christmases, two comas, and in between them a husband, a devoted
00:04:53.520 maid, a locked closet, and a small black bag that the state of Rhode Island will one day hold up in
00:05:00.180 a courtroom and call the weapon. The man at the center of it is Sonny's husband, a Danish-born
00:05:07.340 aristocrat named Klaus von Bülow. Twice a jury will be asked whether he tried to murder his wife.
00:05:15.140 Twice, the jury will be shown nearly the same evidence.
00:05:19.460 This is the story of a case that ended and then ended again.
00:05:24.640 I'm Megan Kelly, and this is MK Confidential.
00:05:30.520 To understand how two medical emergencies one year apart become allegations of attempted murder,
00:05:37.440 we have to start with the marriage.
00:05:39.880 From the beginning, it is a match of opposites.
00:05:43.240 Klaus von Bülow is not born an aristocrat. 0.67
00:05:46.360 He is not even born a Bülow.
00:05:48.720 He comes into the world as Klaus Borberg in Copenhagen in the summer of 1926.
00:05:54.620 His father, Sven Borberg, is a Danish playwright and drama critic,
00:06:00.120 a clever, cultured man whose sympathy for Nazi Germany will destroy his life and reputation. 0.56
00:06:06.320 He admires the Germans, and he goes on admiring them after they occupied Denmark in 1940.
00:06:13.640 He dines, as his son will one day put it, with the wrong people.
00:06:18.220 In Klaus's own words, years later, his father, quote, gave a good name to a bad cause.
00:06:24.300 When the war ends, the reckoning comes.
00:06:27.320 Sven Borberg is tried as a Nazi collaborator and convicted.
00:06:31.120 The conviction is later overturned on appeal, but the name Borberg, once perfectly respectable,
00:06:37.600 has become an embarrassment.
00:06:39.920 So Klaus escapes it.
00:06:41.600 He takes the name of his mother's father, Fritz Bulow, a former Danish minister of justice,
00:06:48.280 a name that stands for precisely the respectability his father's name has lost.
00:06:53.820 Then there's the Vaughan.
00:06:56.200 It comes later, and how it got there has fascinated people ever since.
00:07:00.020 To much of the press, it is an embellishment, a whisper of old German nobility attached to a borrowed name by a man assembling himself for the world.
00:07:11.960 Klaus tells it differently.
00:07:14.160 He says the Bulos are entitled to the Vaughan by blood, and that it was Sonny who wanted her second husband to carry one.
00:07:21.660 Sonny's former in-laws, the von Auerzbergs, say he has no right to it at all. 0.89
00:07:26.920 What no one disputes is the effect.
00:07:30.020 By the time he reaches the drawing rooms of London and New York, the aristocrat is, at least in part, a work of his own composition.
00:07:38.880 He studies law at Cambridge, goes to work as an aide to J. Paul Getty, then the richest man in the world.
00:07:46.140 He is tall, polished, quick with a dry, cutting wit, the ideal plus one for a dinner party.
00:07:52.800 In society, they call the Copenhagen native the Great Dane.
00:07:57.380 Years later, on trial,
00:07:59.320 Klaus would itemize the ingredients of his own mystique
00:08:02.540 with the detachment of a collector.
00:08:05.240 I think there are certain aspects,
00:08:06.820 like the aura of the name Newport.
00:08:10.040 My wife's first marriage gives it a certain cutis.
00:08:13.960 My work years past for Mr. Getty
00:08:17.160 gives it a certain interest.
00:08:18.880 One of the lawyers who would eventually represent him,
00:08:21.600 Alan Dershowitz,
00:08:22.840 describes the two men inside Klaus.
00:08:25.660 It's almost as if there are two Klaus von Willow's, and he presses a button when he walks into a room.
00:08:29.340 There's the public austere Klaus von Willow, which he sits there, as his current woman friend put it,
00:08:36.040 as if he were a mortician with an umbrella up his back.
00:08:39.560 And then there's the warm Klaus von Willow, very caring.
00:08:43.140 Sunny is the money.
00:08:45.120 She's born Martha Sharp Crawford in 1931, the only child of a utilities magnate who dies when she is only four years old.
00:08:54.640 and leaves her something on the order of $75 million, a staggering fortune in any era,
00:09:01.720 and especially in the years this story takes place, an inheritance that would be worth nearly
00:09:06.640 $2 billion by today's standards. She is shy, private, and happiest out of the spotlight.
00:09:14.360 The writer Dominic Dunn knew her for years before she was found on that bathroom floor.
00:09:19.760 Sonny von Beulah was one of America's great heiresses. She was a very beautiful woman.
00:09:23.960 I had been to Sonny von Bulo's coming-out party when she was a debutante.
00:09:28.600 In 1957, Sonny marries an Austrian prince, Alfred von Auerzberg,
00:09:34.060 and has two children, Allah and Alexander.
00:09:37.920 By the mid-60s, thanks in part to his infidelities and her homesickness,
00:09:43.000 that marriage is over.
00:09:44.660 She brings her children to America, and in 1966, marries Klaus.
00:09:50.440 A year later, they have their own daughter, Cosima,
00:09:53.840 And away from the gowns and the society columns,
00:09:57.180 Sunny's days have an ordinary, regular routine to them.
00:10:01.040 She wakes late, near 11,
00:10:02.840 and spends the first hour of every morning on the telephone with her mother.
00:10:06.780 She shops, she lunches, she changes into lounging clothes and watches television.
00:10:12.580 She keeps to herself.
00:10:14.040 And at night, she sleeps surrounded by her dogs, a pair of Labradors up on the bed.
00:10:20.080 The family lives on Sunny's money.
00:10:22.440 Everyone in Newport understands the arithmetic,
00:10:25.300 which no one mentions until it is admitted inside a courtroom.
00:10:29.900 Clarendon Court, the oceanfront mansion, which they call a cottage, is hers.
00:10:36.160 The 14-room apartment on Fifth Avenue is hers.
00:10:39.800 The staff, the cars, the season in Newport,
00:10:42.180 the whole life among princes and industrialists, all of it is hers.
00:10:48.460 Klaus draws a comfortable income, about $120,000 a year, but it comes out of a trust she sets up for him,
00:10:56.140 which is another way of saying it is an allowance.
00:10:59.840 Among the old families, quietly, he is regarded as a kept man,
00:11:03.900 and there is between them a prenuptial agreement with terms that will one day prove enormously important.
00:11:11.820 If Klaus and Sonny divorce, Klaus walks away with almost nothing.
00:11:16.120 If Sonny dies, well, that is another matter entirely.
00:11:19.620 But if Sonny was dead, then he would have title to a house in Rhode Island,
00:11:25.960 a wonderful apartment in Manhattan, and a great deal of money.
00:11:31.240 Sonny's stepfather, the big game hunter Russell Aitken, does not hide his contempt.
00:11:38.340 He tells Dominic Dunn, on the record,
00:11:40.640 Klaus is a Cambridge-educated con man with legal training, 0.99
00:11:44.880 Amoral, greedy as a wolverine, and cold-blooded as a snake. 0.99
00:11:49.760 And I apologize, Aitken adds, to the snake. 0.91
00:11:53.260 One friend puts it to Dunn this way, quote,
00:11:55.540 The problem with Klaus is that he does not dwell in the palace of truth. 0.61
00:12:00.180 He's a fake. 0.90
00:12:01.440 Klaus is a Trump loi, a trick of the eye, something painted to look like what it is not. 0.98
00:12:08.340 One person sees this marriage from the inside every day.
00:12:11.600 Her name is Maria Schrollhammer, and she is Sonny's personal maid, a small, graying German woman who speaks in heavily accented English and has been at Sonny's side for 23 years.
00:12:25.420 She is fiercely loyal to Sonny.
00:12:28.240 So protective is she of Sonny's privacy that she will refuse to tell even Klaus's own lawyers that Sonny once had a facelift because she had promised Sonny she would never tell.
00:12:40.140 If anyone sees the marriage up close, it's Maria.
00:12:43.580 I'm not going to answer the question because I promised Mrs. Vombulo.
00:12:47.520 By the late 1970s, the Vombulo marriage is cold.
00:12:52.240 Separate bedrooms, separate routines, and Sunny is not well.
00:12:57.020 Her doctors diagnose reactive hypoglycemia.
00:13:00.660 Her blood sugar can crash on its own, and when it does, she turns confused and unsteady and slurred,
00:13:06.680 the way a person does when they've had far too much to drink.
00:13:10.720 She keeps herself going on sweets and aspirin and sedatives like Valium and Seconil,
00:13:16.800 and on alcohol her body can barely handle.
00:13:20.120 It is a real and documented illness, 0.57
00:13:22.640 and it will also one day give the defense a natural explanation for everything that happens to her. 1.00
00:13:29.340 And there is another woman.
00:13:31.820 By the late 70s, Klaus is having an affair with Alexandra Isles.
00:13:36.560 She is not just, as the papers will call her, a soap opera actress,
00:13:40.920 though she does play one on the gothic serial Dark Shadows.
00:13:44.880 Alexandra is royalty, the daughter of a countess, schooled alongside Sonny herself.
00:13:51.120 The family would learn of the affair and testify to how they found out.
00:13:56.120 Klaus told them.
00:13:57.080 I then asked him about Alexandra Isles specifically.
00:14:02.300 He told me that there had been a relationship.
00:14:04.860 And Isles, by most accounts, was pressing Klaus to make a choice.
00:14:09.180 I said, would six months be suitable?
00:14:14.700 He asked me to marry him.
00:14:15.880 That is the pressure Klaus is under by 1980.
00:14:19.120 A marriage that has gone cold and a mistress who wants a decision.
00:14:23.880 Leaving Sonny for another woman would mean leaving the life her money pays for. 0.85
00:14:28.700 Leaving Sonny dead would not.
00:14:30.640 Plenty of men have affairs and unhappy marriages and never harm anyone.
00:14:35.360 That alone proves nothing.
00:14:37.080 But it is the shape of a situation that investigators years later will recognize as motive.
00:14:44.260 The first collapse comes at Christmas 1979 at Clarendon Court.
00:14:49.640 Sunny fades over a long day and Maria, who has cared for her for two decades, can see her lady sinking.
00:14:56.500 I went to her and I saw that her right arm was hanging out of the bed and I took her arm and the arm was ice cold.
00:15:06.780 She hardly could breathe anymore and I thought she would stop any minute now.
00:15:13.360 I got very scared she would die and first I asked Mr. von Willow to help me to put her up and he said he couldn't help me.
00:15:23.360 So I just picked her up, and I was holding her in my arms until the doctor came.
00:15:30.040 Here's the chronology that will trouble everyone later.
00:15:33.320 By Maria's account, she urges Klaus for hours.
00:15:37.280 He first telephones the doctor only in the early afternoon and leaves a message.
00:15:41.620 When the doctor calls him back, Klaus tells him only that Sonny is sleeping off a night of drinking and is told to keep watching her.
00:15:49.160 Not until around six that evening, when her breathing turns to a rattle, does Klaus let
00:15:54.480 the doctor be called for real.
00:15:56.600 The local physician who answers, Dr. Janice Galitis, arrives at the same moment as the
00:16:02.240 ambulance.
00:16:03.240 Galitis clears Sonny's throat with his fingers, strikes her chest, and does CPR until Sonny's
00:16:09.200 heart restarts.
00:16:10.820 He saves her life by a matter of minutes.
00:16:13.440 Within a day, Sonny is awake and recovering.
00:16:16.480 And then Klaus does something a little strange.
00:16:19.160 Weeks later, on January 22nd, 1980, he sits down and writes the doctor a careful letter.
00:16:26.320 His mother-in-law feels he was slow to get help, so Klaus lays out the timeline his own way
00:16:32.060 and then asks the doctor two direct questions.
00:16:35.500 Have I stated everything fairly?
00:16:37.560 And was I to blame?
00:16:39.940 Two weeks later, Galetus writes back that the collapse was unpredictable
00:16:44.220 and that by recognizing the change in Sonny's condition
00:16:47.580 and calling him, Klaus saved her life.
00:16:51.240 To investigators who read it later,
00:16:52.900 this looks like a man collecting protection on paper
00:16:55.380 the way other men collect receipts.
00:16:58.200 In February 1980, Maria is cleaning a closet 0.75
00:17:01.940 in the Fifth Avenue apartment
00:17:03.360 when she comes across a soft traveling case
00:17:06.160 that Klaus carries back and forth to Newport each week.
00:17:10.040 It is open.
00:17:11.440 Inside it is a smaller case, black vinyl, about six inches long with a zipper around it.
00:17:18.140 Maria opens it.
00:17:19.920 Inside is a little pharmacy, pills and vials.
00:17:24.200 She calls in Sonny's daughter, Ala, and the two women take careful notes.
00:17:29.220 Prescriptions from a Madison Avenue pharmacy, one bottle made out to a Leslie Baxter,
00:17:35.060 another one made out to Klaus von Bülow at an address that does not exist.
00:17:39.920 Maria gets a little of the powder and liquid to Sonny's doctor of nearly 30 years, Dr. Richard Stock.
00:17:46.800 He identifies them, Valium and a barbiturate, Secobarbital.
00:17:52.160 In April, Sonny is hospitalized again, weak and disoriented.
00:17:56.960 The doctors point once more to her blood sugar.
00:17:59.700 Then on the Sunday after Thanksgiving, Maria goes back into the black bag.
00:18:04.960 This time, next to the familiar vials, there is something new.
00:18:08.720 A small bottle labeled insulin.
00:18:12.280 And syringes.
00:18:13.860 Neither Klaus nor Sonny is diabetic.
00:18:16.500 Maria takes the bottle to Sonny's son, Alexander.
00:18:19.880 There was a bottle of insulin added, a syringe, and needles.
00:18:26.300 I called Alexander insulin for what insulin?
00:18:30.420 Insulin is the reason this bag matters.
00:18:33.140 To the investigators who eventually build the case,
00:18:35.520 it looks almost ideal for a killer.
00:18:38.720 A large enough insulin dose can drive a person's blood sugar into a fatal coma.
00:18:44.560 And once it has done its work, it is very hard to prove after the fact that an injection ever happened.
00:18:50.640 For now, it is a bottle that has no business in this house,
00:18:54.440 sitting in the private bag of a man whose wife has already suffered one unexplained collapse that nearly killed her.
00:19:01.280 The insulin is not the only alarm that winter.
00:19:03.720 In early December, Sunny takes so much aspirin, she says for a sinus headache,
00:19:08.720 that she is hospitalized for about a week with aspirin poisoning around the same time there is
00:19:14.160 a night when klaus knocks on maria's door and tells her not to get excited but that something
00:19:19.920 has happened maria will later say she entered the room and found sunny in bed full with blood
00:19:27.040 with a wound at the back of her head and blood on the pillow and the carpet klaus says sunny got 0.77
00:19:32.640 dizzy and fell. Depending on who's telling it, this is either a woman being harmed inside her
00:19:38.260 own home or a fragile, sick woman leaning on pills and drink, coming apart on her own.
00:19:45.640 Then, almost a year to the day later, comes the second coma. December 20, 1980. The family is
00:19:54.120 together at Clarendon Court. Over dinner, Sonny insists on an ice cream sundae with caramel sauce,
00:20:00.900 exactly the kind of sugar her doctors have told her to avoid.
00:20:05.520 Afterward, they go out to the movies to see Dolly Parton in 9 to 5 and then come home.
00:20:11.760 Klaus goes off to his study.
00:20:13.740 Sunny stays up with Alexander and Cosima.
00:20:16.980 As the evening wears on, Sunny's speech starts to slur and thicken.
00:20:22.760 She can't quite hold a conversation.
00:20:25.200 Her son helps her up to her bedroom and gets her into bed.
00:20:28.160 then alexander goes back out to meet friends at a bar when he leaves his mother is unwell but
00:20:34.380 talking the next morning she does not come down sunny is a late sleeper but after 11 o'clock
00:20:42.160 klaus goes up to check on her he comes back down a few minutes later and motions to alexander
00:20:47.460 who follows him upstairs they find her on the marble floor of the bathroom unconscious her
00:20:54.960 head near the base of the toilet, her lips swollen and bleeding, the sink tap still running.
00:21:01.440 Klaus puts a finger under her nose and says she is still breathing and goes to call for
00:21:06.060 help.
00:21:07.160 Alexander touches his mother's neck, feels that she is ice cold, and covers her with
00:21:12.400 a fur throw.
00:21:14.260 The first responders would never forget the scene.
00:21:18.980 As soon as I walked in the room, knelt beside her.
00:21:21.680 She was in trouble.
00:21:22.660 There was no blood anywhere in the bathroom.
00:21:24.540 Six minutes later, the ambulance arrives and takes her, with Klaus riding along, to the Newport Hospital emergency room.
00:21:32.140 Sunny's body temperature is 81 degrees, her pulse barely there.
00:21:37.640 A few minutes after she arrives, her heart stops, and it takes two doctors to bring her back.
00:21:43.360 From Newport, she is moved to a specialist hospital in Boston, and the scans come back with the answer, no one wants.
00:21:51.820 What the responders remembered was the husband.
00:21:55.240 Mr. Von Bulo looked at this person, who he identified as his wife,
00:22:00.980 with ice-cold blue eyes, and there was absolutely no feeling.
00:22:07.820 He just sat there.
00:22:08.600 The doctors can restart Sonny's heart.
00:22:11.640 They cannot bring back the woman her children knew.
00:22:15.060 She's alive and breathing and gone.
00:22:18.240 And this time, there is no letter, no relief, no narrow escape.
00:22:25.000 There are only questions about what happened in that house the night before.
00:22:30.320 Sonny's family does not accept this as bad luck.
00:22:34.420 In the New York hospital where she is moved, a neurologist tells Alexander and Allah
00:22:38.880 that in his judgment, their mother's coma was caused by injected insulin.
00:22:43.380 And that winter of 1980 into 1981, their stepfather, Klaus, is on the phone with the two of them almost every day, urging them to agree to take Sonny off the machines, appealing by more than one account to their emotions and their finances.
00:23:02.120 The calls only stop when Sonny is taken off the respirator and keeps breathing on her own.
00:23:08.440 So the children decide to act.
00:23:11.380 It is Alexander who says out loud what the others are thinking.
00:23:14.680 Their half-sister, Cosima, is a teenager and she is living under the same roof
00:23:19.240 as the man they now suspect of trying to murder her mother.
00:23:23.520 Can they leave Cosima there?
00:23:25.820 My mother is a very trusting person.
00:23:28.060 I think nobody really could believe that somebody could be plotting to kill you
00:23:33.400 while at the same time they're being nice to you and telling you they love you.
00:23:39.100 The family's banker, Morris Gurley, urges caution.
00:23:43.120 Before anyone accuses anyone, he says,
00:23:45.460 they should do this quietly and properly and hire a professional.
00:23:49.320 So they hire Richard Q, a former district attorney of Manhattan.
00:23:54.780 His job is not to go to the police, not yet, and not to go to the press.
00:24:00.980 His job is to build the case the family believes is there, statement by statement.
00:24:06.840 They felt there was the need for somebody who knew something about criminal justice and who could conduct some further investigation and do it discreetly.
00:24:18.020 They wanted no publicity unless or until ultimately there was proof of Klaus's guilt.
00:24:26.040 Q sits down first with Alexandra and Ala, and then with Maria, and Maria tells him about that bag, the bottles, the syringes, the insulin with no patient.
00:24:40.080 Everything the family's suspicion has fastened onto keeps leading back to the same place, the small black case Klaus carries between the houses, and that Maria last saw inside a locked closet at Clarendon Court.
00:24:54.500 To prove anything, someone is going to have to open that closet.
00:24:58.300 Alex said he'd go up and look for the bag.
00:25:01.640 And we had a private investigator, a very skilled one, with whom I'd worked, Eddie Lambert.
00:25:06.540 And I said, no, we'd send Eddie with him, really to protect Alex in case anything untoward happened.
00:25:14.700 On a January day in 1981, they do it.
00:25:19.580 Alexander, the investigator, and a locksmith drive to the shuttered mansion,
00:25:24.940 and the locksmith opens the locked closet.
00:25:28.180 Inside is the bag.
00:25:30.240 In their haste, they take no photographs and lift no fingerprints,
00:25:34.300 a detail the defense will one day make a great deal of.
00:25:38.140 But for now, they simply take the black bag.
00:25:40.480 We knew that there was a pouch and a metal box in my stepfather's closet containing a needle,
00:25:45.900 which then turned out to have insulin and amobarbital on it there were several other
00:25:51.180 things that had led to suspicions everything put together made us believe that we had to go to the
00:25:56.160 police the family's own doctor tests the bag finds insulin on the used needle and tells them plainly
00:26:04.540 either you take this to the police or i will and so the case passes to the rhode island state police
00:26:10.320 and to a detective named Jack Reese, who starts over from the beginning.
00:26:16.780 When he interviews Alexander, one thing lands hard,
00:26:20.180 the young man's honesty about the limits of what he actually saw.
00:26:24.800 If he was so determined to build a case against his stepfather,
00:26:29.400 it would have been very easy for him to say, I saw the insulin.
00:26:32.640 He did not.
00:26:34.240 To me, that led to his credibility.
00:26:37.860 The detective talks to his partner and decides to set a trap for Klaus.
00:26:43.360 The police already have the black bag with a pharmacy inside.
00:26:47.020 They have the used needle and they have a husband who may still believe both are locked away inside Clarendon Court.
00:26:54.340 So Detective Jack Reese and his partner drive to the von Bülow's place in Manhattan and park outside the apartment and wait for Klaus, just watching for their chance.
00:27:06.100 Reese sits in his car, ready to confront Klaus,
00:27:08.700 to ask him a question, to push him,
00:27:11.080 and then watch and see what he does next.
00:27:13.840 What will Klaus do when he thinks no one is watching?
00:27:17.880 That's next time on MK Confidential.
00:27:29.520 Lieutenant Detective Jack Reese of the Rhode Island State Police
00:27:33.400 and his partner are staking out Klaus von Bülow. They are set up outside the von Bülow's place
00:27:39.280 in Manhattan. When Klaus finally comes up on the sidewalk outside the couple's Fifth Avenue
00:27:44.700 apartment, the detective quickly confronts him, questioning him with no warning and no lawyers
00:27:50.860 around. I didn't want an interview where he had an opportunity to think over what he would say
00:27:57.980 to us. So I thought that the best way to do that was to take him by surprise. He was obviously very
00:28:03.680 nervous. Near the end, the detective slips in one more question, almost an afterthought. Whether
00:28:10.480 Sonny would ever have had a reason to use insulin. Years later, Jack Reese describes the exchange to
00:28:17.580 journalist Bill Curtis. You know, I asked a kind of a ridiculous question. And I said, you don't 0.90
00:28:23.220 suppose that your wife uh were using insulin for any reason and he said by god that's the last 0.95
00:28:29.060 thing she would need that clinched it for the detective i said to my partner mark my way she's
00:28:36.180 going back for that black bag within three days detective reese's prediction comes true klaus
00:28:43.200 bombulo drives back up to newport rhode island to clarendon court the shuttered oceanfront mansion
00:28:49.460 where Sonny collapsed. The state police follow Klaus, this time with a warrant. Reese rings the
00:28:56.540 bell for a second interview, and while two detectives keep Klaus talking in one room,
00:29:01.720 other cops go through the house. During the search, officers make several observations.
00:29:07.600 On the desk in Klaus's study, one of them notices a scratch pad. Two words are written on it,
00:29:13.760 black box. Then officers come upon Klaus's closet, standing open and unlocked. Inside it,
00:29:21.640 police find a small black metal box, the one Maria had described, the box that held the little black
00:29:28.480 bag. Sometime during the police interview, Klaus excuses himself for a few minutes. When the
00:29:34.600 detectives look again, the closet has been relocked and the scratch pad is gone. But the bag
00:29:42.200 is not in that box.
00:29:44.620 It has not been for weeks.
00:29:46.660 Sonny's grown son from her first marriage,
00:29:48.980 Alexander, and a locksmith
00:29:50.540 have already carried it out.
00:29:53.040 And by now, it is in an evidence room in Providence.
00:29:56.560 Whatever Klaus went upstairs to do,
00:29:58.880 he came back down without it.
00:30:01.660 The way he surmised that he hadn't found the black bag
00:30:04.000 and he was probably a little concerned
00:30:06.600 that he may have misplaced it.
00:30:08.820 The detectives never saw Klaus open that closet,
00:30:11.440 and they never saw him reach for the bag.
00:30:14.600 What they had was a relocked door,
00:30:17.240 a now-missing notepad,
00:30:19.120 and a man who had driven 90 miles
00:30:21.060 to a closed-up house in January.
00:30:24.360 It is not proof,
00:30:26.000 but it's enough for Detective Jack Reese.
00:30:28.620 A year before, all the family had
00:30:30.560 was a maid's bad feeling about a case full of pills.
00:30:34.180 Now the state of Rhode Island has the bag,
00:30:36.580 the needle inside it,
00:30:38.180 and a suspect.
00:30:39.920 I'm Megan Kelly.
00:30:41.440 This is MK Confidential.
00:30:45.480 In July of 1981, a Rhode Island grand jury indicts Klaus von Bülow on two counts of assault with intent to murder.
00:30:54.660 One count for each of the two comas.
00:30:57.240 A week later, he surrenders for arraignment, pleads not guilty, and is released on $100,000 bail.
00:31:04.380 When Klaus is arraigned, he gives the only answer he will give in the entire case.
00:31:09.840 You are charged with two counts. Count one, assault and attempted murder. Count two, assault and attempted murder. How do you play it? I'm not guilty.
00:31:22.120 The trial opens in Newport in February of 1982. The state has to prove two separate crimes a year apart. The Christmas Sunny nearly died in 1979 and the Christmas she did not wake up in 1980.
00:31:38.300 State is ready to proceed?
00:31:39.720 Yes, Your Honor, the state is ready to proceed.
00:31:41.280 Been ready to proceed?
00:31:42.240 Yes, we are, Your Honor.
00:31:43.320 Rhode Island has just let television cameras into its courtrooms,
00:31:47.160 so the trial of Klaus von Bülow becomes something the country has never quite seen.
00:31:52.120 A crime story the whole nation can watch, nearly gavel to gavel, like a soap opera.
00:31:57.400 A maid, a mistress, a fortune, a needle, and an aristocratic, silent defendant,
00:32:05.960 The state calls an attempted murderer.
00:32:09.140 Downtown Newport becomes, in the words of one man who was there, a madhouse.
00:32:14.060 The old colonial statehouse beside the courthouse is turned into a press center.
00:32:18.320 Sketch artists and reporters fight for one of the 80 seats inside. 0.81
00:32:22.320 The jury that files in is not made up of Newport's summer people.
00:32:27.100 It is drawn from the year-round town, working Rhode Islanders, mostly Catholic.
00:32:32.860 It's the kind of jury Klaus's own side privately doubts can ever be a jury of his peers.
00:32:39.880 And at the center of it, ramrod straight and immaculate, sits Klaus von Bülow,
00:32:45.920 giving the reporters almost nothing, except now and then a dry line about the spectacle he has become.
00:32:53.640 This simply is the first time I'd ever been exposed to the media.
00:32:57.440 It was new to me, and I think I belong to the kind of people who like to be in the newspaper the day they are born, the day they get married, and the day they die.
00:33:07.000 I suddenly realized that this was a futile wish.
00:33:11.540 For weeks, The Trial is the best show in the country.
00:33:15.520 The networks carry it.
00:33:17.040 On CNN, more than 300,000 viewers routinely tune in, a lot for that time.
00:33:21.500 when actress Alexandra Isles of the hit TV show Dark Shadows takes the stand, the audience climbs
00:33:28.560 past 600,000. Newspaper artists sketch Klaus in his dark, well-cut suits, and strangers gather
00:33:36.580 on the courthouse steps, some of them wearing buttons that read, Free Klaus, others just as
00:33:42.200 sure he is exactly what the state says he is, an attempted murderer. The town of Newport itself
00:33:48.900 cannot agree. The old families who summer behind the same hedges are split down the middle over
00:33:54.940 whether the man is a wronged husband or a fortune hunter who finally reached too far, and they say
00:34:01.500 so, at their dinner tables and to any reporter who will write it down. Klaus has pleaded not guilty.
00:34:08.920 He makes one more choice that will shape the whole trial. He will never take the stand.
00:34:15.500 Across the whole trial, the jury, the 12 people deciding his fate,
00:34:19.240 will not hear a single word from the accused.
00:34:23.240 Inside the family, the sides are already fixed.
00:34:26.640 Sonny's two older children brought the case, Ala and Alexander.
00:34:30.740 The only person in the family standing with Klaus is Kosima,
00:34:34.800 the daughter he and Sonny had together, still just a teenager.
00:34:38.600 There was never a time where I doubted it.
00:34:40.960 And we would always talk openly about what was going on.
00:34:47.640 And just seeing him go through the anguish of it all and seeing him with the lawyers saying,
00:34:54.580 you can investigate anything, I really don't have anything to hide, was enough for me to believe it.
00:34:59.920 Klaus sits through it all with a stillness that unsettles the people around him.
00:35:05.380 He is unfailingly courteous to the reporters in the hallway.
00:35:09.580 Dominic Dunn covers the trial for Vanity Fair magazine, whose readers cannot get enough.
00:35:16.440 He describes a defendant who seems less like a man fighting for his life than a man watching with mild interest a drama about someone else.
00:35:26.640 The prosecutor is Stephen Famiglietti.
00:35:30.200 And in his opening, he tells the jury exactly what the state means to prove.
00:35:34.380 The stable pool was a clandestine, subtle, and ingenious attempt on the part of her husband, Klaus Van Dulo, to terminate her life, to murder her, by secretly injecting her with a drug called insulin.
00:35:49.580 It is a large promise, and Famiglietti knows the case is harder than it sounds.
00:35:55.180 No eyewitnesses, no confession, a woman in a coma who cannot testify, and weeks of medical testimony ahead of him.
00:36:03.400 I thought it was an extremely difficult case, and primarily because it was a circumstantial evidence case, meaning that there were no eyewitnesses to the alleged criminal conduct, and there was so much medical testimony.
00:36:17.140 The tougher job for the state is the first coma, the one from which Sonny recovered.
00:36:23.140 To make it a crime and not just a bad night, Famiglietti has to convince the jury that this was a first attempt, a rehearsal for the next Christmas when it worked.
00:36:34.620 The state's first witness is Sonny's own son, Alexander, who gives the jury the story of the marriage from the inside.
00:36:42.440 My stepfather said that after my younger sister was born, my mother was unable to have sex, and that he looked towards other women.
00:36:54.540 Did he mention any other woman, one woman in particular?
00:36:58.720 Alexandra Isles.
00:37:00.720 His sister, Allah, takes the stand and tells the jury why her mother had begun talking about a divorce.
00:37:07.060 She felt he was on the verge of a nervous breakdown, that he was blaming her for the fact that he'd been having no success in his professional life.
00:37:16.700 Then comes Maria Schralhammer, son he's made of 23 years.
00:37:22.200 Maria has never once sat in a witness box.
00:37:25.120 And when she climbs into one now in a Newport courtroom in front of the television cameras and a nation leaning in,
00:37:31.880 She describes the black bag, the vials, and the small bottle of insulin she says she found
00:37:53.200 among the belongings of a woman who had low blood sugar, which can be caused by too much
00:37:59.340 insulin and thus had no use for any more of it. Maria is a small, plain-spoken woman with a heavy
00:38:07.100 German accent, and by common agreement, she is the most important witness the state has. She does not 0.89
00:38:13.760 raise her voice. She just tells the jury what she saw. The defense cross-examines her over parts of
00:38:20.140 two days and does not move her a single inch. Then the doctors, Sonny's own physician of nearly
00:38:27.920 three decades, Dr. Richard Stock, tells the jury what he believed had been done to her.
00:38:33.940 It was the surreptitious administration of insulin. One of the country's foremost authorities on
00:38:39.620 insulin, Dr. George Cahill of Harvard, testifies that the second coma bears the mark of an
00:38:46.000 injection, one that no illness in Sonny's own body could produce. The state puts the physical
00:38:53.280 evidence beside him. The used needle from the black bag, which the family's own doctor has found
00:38:59.620 carried insulin at its tip. And it puts a number in front of the jury. A blood test drawn the
00:39:07.100 morning Sonny was admitted, showing an insulin level of 216, many times higher than normal,
00:39:14.540 next to a blood sugar that had crashed toward nothing. Then the family's banker, Morris Gurley,
00:39:21.100 The trust officer who ran Sonny's fortune gives the jury the arithmetic.
00:39:27.360 If Sonny dies, Klaus stands to inherit about $14 million.
00:39:32.240 If they divorce, the prenuptial agreement leaves him with almost nothing.
00:39:37.620 Sonny alive and divorced from Klaus is worth next to nothing to him.
00:39:42.940 Sonny dead is worth a fortune.
00:39:45.520 The black bag itself is entered into evidence.
00:39:48.160 It's small pharmacy laid out on a table for the jury to look at, the vials, the syringes, and the used needle the state calls the attempted murder weapon.
00:39:58.700 The medical case runs on for weeks.
00:40:01.440 Doctors for the state and doctors for the defense take the jury down into blood sugar readings and insulin levels and the exact chemistry of a body shutting down, each side certain of the opposite conclusion.
00:40:13.500 It is slow, technical, and fiercely disputed.
00:40:18.160 What the jurors can weigh more plainly is the maid, the money, and the black bag on the table
00:40:24.500 in front of them. Then the state calls the other woman. Alexandra Isles, the mistress,
00:40:31.400 takes the stand, and the prosecutor asks her in front of the cameras whether she still thinks
00:40:37.020 the charges against the man she loved are nonsense. You still think a speck of nonsense?
00:40:43.460 Don't know.
00:40:44.720 I didn't hear that answer.
00:40:46.140 I don't know.
00:40:47.920 Let me ask you this long last question, Mrs. Isles.
00:40:51.280 Maybe you can answer, do you still love the defender?
00:40:58.420 I don't know.
00:41:01.120 The defense is offered the chance to cross-examine her and turns it down.
00:41:06.040 Klaus's lead lawyer, Harold Price Ferringer,
00:41:09.500 tells the court he will not put Mrs. Isles through any more questioning.
00:41:13.800 The line going around the courthouse is that
00:41:15.700 a gentleman does not permit the cross-examination of his lover. 0.91
00:41:20.180 She steps down.
00:41:22.000 The defense's case is that there was no crime here at all.
00:41:26.300 That Sonny, with her drinking, her aspirin, her sedatives,
00:41:29.200 and her failing blood sugar, had done this to herself.
00:41:32.660 what happened to her was not anyone's fault but her own and that sad fact will emerge in this case
00:41:39.860 if the truth is to prevail to account for the insulin the defense calls a former exercise
00:41:46.220 instructor named joy o'neill who testifies that sunny once told her years earlier that she injected
00:41:53.620 insulin herself to keep her weight down it is the innocent account the defense has been looking for
00:41:59.120 Then the prosecution produces the exercise studio's own appointment cards.
00:42:05.020 They show O'Neill had given Sonny a handful of sessions only, not the hundreds she had just described under oath.
00:42:14.160 Beyond O'Neill, the defense is thin.
00:42:17.240 Klaus doesn't testify.
00:42:18.860 His lawyers spend most of their case picking at the state's witnesses rather than putting up their own defense and pressing the single argument they have.
00:42:26.960 that a secretive, self-medicating woman who drank and swallowed aspirin by the fistful
00:42:32.540 was the only person who ever did Sonny von Bülow any harm.
00:42:37.900 In his closing, defense attorney Faringer goes after the way the black bag was found,
00:42:43.320 a private search run by a family that already believed Klaus guilty,
00:42:48.440 with no police in the room and no fingerprints ever lifted.
00:42:51.860 Had fingerprints been taken off of that bag, off of those vials, off of those needles,
00:43:00.300 and Martha von Bülow's fingerprints were on those vials and on those needles,
00:43:04.680 wouldn't that be important to you?
00:43:06.500 It's a fair question, and it is the one the defense will build an entire second trial around.
00:43:12.560 But in this courtroom, the prosecutor answers it and gets the last word.
00:43:16.900 In his summation, Famiglietti reduces the case to one question.
00:43:35.960 Not a menu of innocent explanations, he tells the jurors.
00:43:39.540 One thing, true or false.
00:43:42.240 Did Klaus von Bülow try to murder his wife?
00:43:45.980 The jury goes out.
00:43:47.980 One day passes, then a second.
00:43:51.340 Outside the courthouse, the two camps sit.
00:43:53.820 Sonny's grown children wait on one side,
00:43:56.520 while Klaus's loyalists and the reporters who have covered every hour of the trial on the other.
00:44:02.060 No one can read the silence coming out of the jury room.
00:44:05.680 A third day, a fourth.
00:44:08.240 The longer it runs, the more the whispers start.
00:44:11.220 That the jury is divided.
00:44:12.980 That the case could end in a hung jury.
00:44:15.080 that after everything the state may not have convinced all 12 jurors a fifth day comes and
00:44:21.860 goes then on the sixth day a verdict the courtroom fills fast klaus in his usual chair his daughter
00:44:30.900 cosima not far away the camera's running it is the morning of march 16th 1982 the jury finds that
00:44:39.260 The defendant, Klaus van Buur, guilty.
00:44:42.700 Guilty on both counts.
00:44:45.520 There are audible gasps in the courtroom.
00:44:48.320 Klaus does not move.
00:44:50.540 The cameras catch only a flicker across his face, a small twitch, there and gone.
00:44:57.300 Weeks later, a judge will sentence him to 30 years, 10 for the 1979 coma and 20 for 1980,
00:45:04.660 and lets him stay free on a million-dollar bail while he appeals.
00:45:09.760 Outside the courthouse, Sonny's children say what they have believed from the start.
00:45:14.780 We feel very strongly that he tried twice to murder our mother.
00:45:19.820 We believe that he deprived her of life as we know it, deprived her of many years of happiness.
00:45:26.900 And that is the story.
00:45:29.040 A cash-poor Danish aristocrat marries a wealthy heiress, lives lavishly on her fortune,
00:45:34.580 falls in love with another woman and stands to inherit 14 million dollars if his wife
00:45:39.780 dies. Twice at Christmas in the same house, the state says he tried to collect. A maid
00:45:47.160 noticed the bottle that did not belong. The woman's children refused to let it go. And 0.59
00:45:53.800 12 ordinary people from Rhode Island looked past the title and the accent and convicted
00:45:59.740 him. The system worked. A rich man tried to murder his wife, and he was caught. Case closed.
00:46:07.700 Except it isn't, because the case does not end here. Not by a long shot. Everything the first
00:46:16.020 jury believed, the maid's memory, the needle, the blood test, the $14 million, is about to be
00:46:22.000 examined again, only this time by a Harvard law professor and 18 of his best and brightest
00:46:29.340 students. And they are going to find questions no one in that first courtroom even thought to ask.
00:46:37.420 Just over two weeks after the guilty verdict, before Klaus has even been sentenced,
00:46:42.500 the phone rings in the professor's office on April Fool's Day. The man on the line says
00:46:48.720 he has just been convicted of trying to murder his wife
00:46:51.940 and he wants the professor to take his case.
00:46:55.320 The professor is certain it is a prank.
00:46:58.560 He almost hangs up the phone.
00:47:01.440 But then?
00:47:03.360 That's next time on MK Confidential,
00:47:06.400 where we speak to the professor directly.
00:47:08.800 it is april 1st 1982 april fool's day the phone rings in the office of a harvard law professor
00:47:23.800 on the other end is a man the entire country has just watched get convicted of attempted murder
00:47:29.100 asking the professor to take his case the harvard man thinks it's a prank very nearly hangs up
00:47:36.660 but he doesn't. Over the next three years, that professor and 18 law students will take the most
00:47:44.180 famous conviction in America and turn it completely inside out. The professor's name
00:47:50.500 is Alan Dershowitz, a kid from Brooklyn, a graduate of Yale Law with a reputation as
00:47:56.720 the top lawyer of last resort and a friend of mine. So rather than tell you what happened
00:48:03.060 with Alan Dershowitz and his students, we decided to ask him directly. Coming up, Alan breaks it
00:48:09.620 down in his own words, the notes, the needle, the science, and any doubt he still carries.
00:48:16.920 I'm Megan Kelly, and this is MK Confidential.
00:48:22.900 A quick word about this episode. Most of what you're going to hear is a conversation. Yours
00:48:28.280 Truly and Alan Dershowitz, the man who engineered one of the most stunning reversals in American
00:48:34.080 legal history. You will also hear a few moments from the 1990 Oscar-winning film made based on
00:48:40.600 Alan's book, Reversal of Fortune, starring Jeremy Irons and Glenn Close. So let's start at the
00:48:47.760 beginning with your relationship with Klaus. He called you for the first time on April Fool's Day.
00:48:54.560 you did not believe it was actually Klaus von Bülow.
00:48:58.420 So what actually made you take Klaus von Bülow's case?
00:49:02.900 Well, first of all, my son, I thought it was him who called me.
00:49:06.120 My son, Ilan, always was calling me, pretending to be famous people.
00:49:10.180 He called me, pretending to be Michael Jackson.
00:49:12.480 I believed him.
00:49:13.860 And so I thought he was Klaus von Bülow.
00:49:16.240 But then when he told me, everybody thinks I'm guilty,
00:49:20.460 I said, that's my kind of case.
00:49:22.180 I'm going to do it.
00:49:23.000 And everybody said, there's no way you would win the appeal.
00:49:25.760 There's no way you'd win a retrial.
00:49:27.380 So it was a challenge, and I love challenges.
00:49:30.400 And this was not, to him, an ordinary appeal.
00:49:34.820 So what was at stake for Klaus?
00:49:37.280 Allen spoke to that.
00:49:38.640 He said, Allen, this is a capital case.
00:49:40.300 I said, but you haven't been sentenced to death.
00:49:42.520 You've been sentenced to 30 years.
00:49:43.800 He said, Allen, I'm not going into prison.
00:49:46.840 I'm going to do what a gentleman does.
00:49:48.720 if you don't reverse my conviction, I'm not going to prison. He was going to kill himself.
00:49:55.240 And so we did regard the case as a capital case because I know he meant it.
00:49:59.620 Allen has said that he would never even have been allowed into Newport, into Clarendon Court,
00:50:04.820 with all its glitz and glamour. But Klaus is the ultimate insider. The accent, the title,
00:50:11.620 the Fifth Avenue apartment. So why does Klaus von Bulow call a kid from Brooklyn to help him?
00:50:17.800 He was the man who recommended me to be his lawyer. I didn't know Klaus Rambiola, he didn't know me, but he sought a recommendation from a former Supreme Court justice of the United States, who was then retired.
00:50:33.620 And the justice said, I can't do it. I'm retired. But Dershowitz is a really good appellate lawyer. Hire him. And so actually the justice took notes on the side of the briefs. And I used some of his notes in my argument.
00:50:50.820 There's a famous scene in Reversal of Fortune where your character says to him something like,
00:50:57.620 you're very odd, Klaus.
00:50:59.580 And Jeremy Irons playing Klaus responds, you have no idea.
00:51:04.520 No idea.
00:51:05.000 Was he odd?
00:51:05.820 He was odd, but my son Elon wrote that line.
00:51:09.380 You're a very strange man.
00:51:12.300 You have no idea.
00:51:14.780 I had told my son Elon was one of the producers of the movie, and of course he knew me very well.
00:51:19.520 And I told him about my actual encounter with Klaus and that I said to him, you know, Klaus, I don't understand you.
00:51:27.760 You're I just we are totally different.
00:51:31.440 You seem so so weird and strange.
00:51:34.920 And he said back, yeah, but you don't really have any idea about how strange I am.
00:51:40.740 And then Ilan wrote it into you have no idea.
00:51:43.540 And they use that in The Lion King as well.
00:51:45.820 And it became kind of a famous line in motion picture.
00:51:49.100 But it was a very important line in the movie.
00:51:52.140 So you, like everybody else, when you'd been looking at it from the outside, thought for sure this guy is guilty.
00:51:57.640 Oh, of course.
00:51:58.160 Then you get on the inside.
00:52:00.280 And did you change your mind about his almost certain guilt?
00:52:05.920 Yeah, I changed it first from almost certain guilt to I'm not sure to finally there was no crime there.
00:52:13.740 There was just no crime.
00:52:15.340 She did it to herself.
00:52:16.680 we found all the evidence that she was self-destructive
00:52:20.900 and she was drinking and eating things
00:52:23.460 she wasn't supposed to drink and eat.
00:52:25.500 And then we were able to prove scientifically 0.84
00:52:27.260 that there was never any insulin
00:52:28.780 and the government's entire theory collapsed.
00:52:32.580 And at that point, I was fairly confident
00:52:35.020 that we'd win the appeal.
00:52:36.980 So you decide to assemble a dream team of lawyers
00:52:40.740 and lawyers in training from Harvard Law School,
00:52:43.520 where you have been a professor at that point
00:52:46.220 for years and ultimately for 50 years. It was it was a dream team, right? Am I right that
00:52:52.280 some of the people helping you have household names today?
00:52:56.080 Oh, yeah. You know, it was a real dream team, unlike the OJ case, which was a nightmare team.
00:53:02.200 Everybody fought with each other in the OJ case because they were trying to become the one who
00:53:07.240 got credit for the result. In the Ivan Bulow case, we all worked together very, very nicely.
00:53:13.320 I worked with Susan Estridge. I worked with some other professors. And then, of course, I assembled a group of great students, not only from the law school, but from the medical school as well, because this was very much a scientific case, a medical case.
00:53:27.020 I had been teaching for years the issue of law and science, how students, if they want to become really great criminal lawyers, have to really immerse themselves in science and technology and medicine.
00:53:38.120 And this was the perfect case to illustrate that.
00:53:40.400 all right so you've got your dream team uh assembled what what was the room actually like
00:53:45.420 because you broke them out into teams well i had a very large harvard house back in the day with
00:53:50.960 the basketball court in the backyard and the big yard and about i don't know 10 rooms and i would
00:53:57.900 divide the team into rooms this was the insulin room um this was the room for search and seizure
00:54:04.680 This was the case where they found the case.
00:54:09.240 So everybody was divided into a team.
00:54:11.560 And I was kind of the general.
00:54:14.340 And I would go from room to room asking them about their progress.
00:54:18.460 But the principle Dershowitz says pulled him in was bigger than one wealthy man's freedom.
00:54:23.660 In his telling years ago, it was about how this case had been built in the first place.
00:54:28.760 Here's Alan talking with journalist Bill Curtis in 1997.
00:54:31.740 They had paid for private prosecutors and private investigators and had circumvented the strictures of the Constitution, had done things that private people could do, but that public police and prosecutors could never do, withheld evidence, possibly planted evidence.
00:54:52.140 And it sounded intriguing to me.
00:54:54.000 But there is an obvious contradiction.
00:54:57.200 Dershowitz says a wealthy family had effectively built a private prosecution.
00:55:02.520 Klaus von Bülow was also wealthy and now buying the best defense money could buy.
00:55:07.200 Harvard students, expert witnesses, and one of the country's top appellate lawyers.
00:55:12.160 Dershowitz said years ago, that's not a defense of the system.
00:55:15.940 It is an indictment of it.
00:55:17.520 If Klaus von Bülow had been a poor butler charged with putting his wife into two comas, he would be in jail today.
00:55:26.280 There is no question in my mind that it took a lot of money paid to scientific experts, particularly, to be able to get justice in this case.
00:55:36.740 This is a terrible commentary on the American system of justice.
00:55:40.980 You knew early on that this case could turn on the notes of a man named Richard Q.
00:55:47.580 Right.
00:55:48.320 Who is Richard Q and why were you so sure that his notes were going to be so important?
00:55:53.320 Because I knew Dick Q. He was a friend of mine.
00:55:55.420 I actually supported him when he ran for district attorney against Bob Morgan, who ultimately became a close friend of mine years later.
00:56:01.860 But at the time, I supported Richard Q.
00:56:04.020 I liked him and I knew he was a good lawyer.
00:56:06.740 So I knew he was going to take very, very careful notes of what was said to him by the children and by others.
00:56:14.420 And I had a strong suspicion that these notes would show that there was no insult.
00:56:22.040 He didn't want to turn those notes over to you.
00:56:24.280 So as a lawyer, did your spidey sense go up as soon as he refused?
00:56:28.220 Oh, of course.
00:56:29.600 I mean, if there was nothing in the notes, he would have, of course, turned them over.
00:56:33.060 And once he said, I'm not turning over those notes, they're lawyer-client privilege.
00:56:36.280 They weren't lawyer-client privilege.
00:56:38.600 And we were entitled to those notes.
00:56:40.420 And under the Sixth Amendment, we're entitled to all exculpatory evidence.
00:56:45.080 And the court so ruled when we got the notes, we said, Eureka, you know, we now have the proof we needed.
00:56:52.220 And so, you know, it was a combination of using law and using science together.
00:56:59.520 And, you know, one reason why I was a successful teacher is because I brought the courtroom into the classroom.
00:57:06.740 And one reason I was a successful litigator is I brought the classroom into the courtroom.
00:57:11.880 And the von Bülow case was a perfect example of both.
00:57:15.420 I taught the case in class.
00:57:17.040 I got student input from brilliant, brilliant Harvard students who gave me advice about how to handle it and do things.
00:57:24.020 And I take the advice of students and we were able to use the classroom and bring it into the courtroom.
00:57:30.120 But Q had told you that there wasn't a scrap of paper in his possession that was exculpatory, so he didn't have to turn these notes over.
00:57:38.240 Then finally, he was ordered to turn them over to you.
00:57:42.320 And did your jaw drop when you read them explain what was so explosive about what was in those notes?
00:57:48.420 Well, the notes proved that there was no insulin and that there never was insulin.
00:57:52.900 How?
00:57:53.700 They had descriptions of what was found every time the maid looked into the little case.
00:58:01.000 And there was no mention of anything even resembling insulin.
00:58:04.980 Now, you know, I can't really blame Dick Q.
00:58:07.460 I think he honestly believed, because he believed that Bob Buehler was guilty, he honestly believed that it wasn't exculpatory.
00:58:14.860 But to a defense attorney, which I am, and by the way, Dick Q was at that point in his life, too.
00:58:20.740 He had been a prosecutor.
00:58:22.080 He would realize that even if you don't think it's exculpatory, you can use it in a way that raises doubts.
00:58:28.880 Remember, criminal defense lawyers don't have to prove anybody's innocence.
00:58:32.500 All they have to do is raise a reasonable doubt.
00:58:35.320 So in other words, if the children had genuinely believed that they found insulin in this bag and that it was used by Klaus to inject Sunny, causing her coma, one would think they would have mentioned that in their sit down with Q.
00:58:48.800 But that's not what happened.
00:58:49.880 Of course, that's exactly what we discovered. And the Court of Appeals agreed with us.
00:58:55.120 The Supreme Court of Rhode Island agreed with us and said, you know, turn over the material.
00:58:58.580 I don't know whether at the time they told them to turn over the material.
00:59:02.940 They knew how explosive the material was.
00:59:05.640 But as soon as we saw it, we realized that this was, you know, our ticket.
00:59:10.180 This was his get out of jail free card.
00:59:12.820 Q has always said that proves nothing.
00:59:15.900 Here he is.
00:59:16.920 What things I put in my notes of the original interview really have nothing to do with it.
00:59:22.980 If Alex and Ella had told me, as I'm sure they did, when preliminarily I interviewed them that this insulin was found,
00:59:31.880 the fact that in my notes of the first interview with Marianne, there were several, I didn't put down.
00:59:37.800 Maria says she saw insulin. No need to put it down. I'd already heard that.
00:59:43.040 Alan has said that looking at the state's evidence, the blood, the needle, the bag, he too would have voted to convict.
00:59:50.160 So we asked him to explain how he got from there to ultimately believing Klaus may have been innocent.
00:59:56.240 He started with the needle, whose tip the prosecution said was encrusted with insulin.
01:00:02.580 They had a needle, which they said had insulin on it.
01:00:07.280 And we were able to show that if that needle had been injected into a human body,
01:00:13.660 the body would act as a swab and the insulin would not be encrusted on the bottom,
01:00:18.320 but it would be encrusted near the top.
01:00:20.740 And we were able to prove that the insulin was at the very bottom,
01:00:24.320 showing that that needle had never been injected into any human being,
01:00:28.160 but that it had been dipped into insulin in order to create the impression
01:00:32.340 that this was an insulin-coated needle that Klaus von Bülow had injected his wife with.
01:00:36.940 The jury was very impressed with that demonstration.
01:00:40.260 Alan, what was the 216 insulin reading?
01:00:43.520 Do you remember that?
01:00:44.080 It sent a man to prison.
01:00:45.280 what was actually wrong with that number, 216 insulin?
01:00:48.680 Well, there were three readings
01:00:49.840 and they suppressed the most exculpatory reading
01:00:53.600 and just allowed the two readings,
01:00:56.040 both of which were consistent with guilt.
01:00:58.900 Once we were able to get at all the readings,
01:01:01.020 we were able to show that they were inconsistent readings.
01:01:04.160 Again, that doesn't prove his innocence.
01:01:06.040 That just raises a reasonable doubt.
01:01:08.200 And that's what we have to...
01:01:09.360 Of what the level of insulin was inside of Sonny von Buhler.
01:01:12.860 That's right.
01:01:13.240 And remember, everybody has some level of almost every chemical, so it's always a matter of how much and a matter of degree.
01:01:21.500 Dershowitz's team did not stop there.
01:01:24.200 They tested the laboratory itself, sending in needles containing different substances to see whether the lab could reliably identify insulin.
01:01:33.660 What we did is we sent them several needles.
01:01:37.540 One had insulin, one had saline solution, one had barbiturates, one had combinations.
01:01:44.680 And we wanted to see what the test results would be.
01:01:47.740 And they came back.
01:01:49.040 And many of them came back saying insulin when there was no insulin.
01:01:53.700 So there were false positives.
01:01:55.400 There was a second story about Sonny herself, the first jury, never really heard.
01:02:00.260 Not Sonny the victim, but Sonny the patient.
01:02:03.080 In the film that was based on Dershowitz's book, Reversal of Fortune, that other Sonny narrates the whole case from inside her coma.
01:02:12.720 On December 27th, 1979, I lay in bed all day.
01:02:19.180 Whether I was asleep or in a coma, later became a subject of dispute.
01:02:26.620 Do you believe that she injected herself with insulin or that there was no insulin in Sonny at all?
01:02:31.980 There was no insulin. But I have to tell you, Truman Capote told me that he gave her insulin and told her how to inject it as a kind of weight loss or something.
01:02:43.560 I don't know. But I never knew whether to believe Truman Capote. He invited me to his home.
01:02:49.120 He showed me a book he had given her. And he told me that he taught her how to self-inject.
01:02:55.980 We know she injected herself with B12 vitamins,
01:03:00.040 but he told me that she also injected herself with insulin.
01:03:03.400 But we had no proof of that.
01:03:04.420 We never found any evidence that there was ever any insulin
01:03:08.420 beyond the normal that's found in her body.
01:03:12.040 So what was the defense's theory about what actually put Sunny into a coma?
01:03:16.920 We asked the professor.
01:03:18.820 She was told she had reactive hypoglycemia
01:03:23.980 and she shouldn't be drinking sweet drinks and on Christmas Eve she was having one after the other
01:03:30.900 of these very very sweet Christmas drinks and we were convinced that she put herself into a coma.
01:03:37.620 Remember this was her second coma. She had one a year earlier and then they found her even though
01:03:42.920 she had been in a coma and told that she shouldn't smoke and she had oxygen around her they found her
01:03:48.660 smoking cigarettes right near the oxygen. She was self-destructed. She was an extraordinarily
01:03:54.080 unhappy woman. And I don't blame her. If I were married to Klaus von Bülow, I'd be a very unhappy
01:03:59.740 woman, too. He was a runaround and he had mistresses and weird tastes. But she was very, 0.98
01:04:08.020 very unhappy. He obviously married her for money, not for love. Not the first time that's ever
01:04:13.140 happened, but he was not a good husband. And she was very depressed and very, perhaps even
01:04:19.960 suicidal. We're not sure about that. Again, we don't have to prove anything. It's the government
01:04:25.140 that has the burden of proving everything. There was also a very public front to this case.
01:04:30.260 The trial was televised, and a reversal in a courtroom might not be enough to change the
01:04:35.080 public's mind. Waging that media war was a glamorous, relentless, Hungarian-born force of 1.00
01:04:41.660 nature named Andrea Reynolds. Reynolds worked the press like a switchboard. She phoned reporters who 0.96
01:04:48.460 covered the trial in a way she didn't like, and when that failed, she went over their heads to
01:04:53.160 their editors. While Dershowitz was in a library dismantling the evidence, Andrea Reynolds ran a
01:04:59.360 whole other campaign out in the open. Not a lawyer, but a fixer and a general. Access, energy, total 1.00
01:05:06.600 belief a woman who refused to let a guilty verdict be the last word. Allen has accused the children
01:05:13.220 of a, quote, benevolent frame up. We asked him to explain. Absolutely believe that Klaus Rambula
01:05:20.020 was guilty, but that he was too smart to be convicted. So they tampered with the evidence
01:05:24.840 and they allowed evidence to be submitted to the jury, which was not authentic. And we were able
01:05:34.800 to disprove that scientifically. There is a catch, he concedes. You can frame
01:05:41.040 a guilty man. A frame up would not mean Klaus von Bülow was innocent, which is why the blunt
01:05:47.420 question still has to be asked. But sitting here today, thinking back to your comment at the top
01:05:54.640 of the interview, you don't believe that Klaus von Bülow committed this crime. I don't. Is it
01:06:00.960 possible? It is. I don't believe it. The evidence points away from it. The evidence points very
01:06:06.760 strongly to a self-inflicted coma. That's the balance of evidence. So even if this were a civil
01:06:13.180 case, not a criminal case, I would say that you couldn't prove even civil liability by a
01:06:19.400 preponderance of the evidence. The preponderance favors innocence. That doesn't mean he's innocent.
01:06:24.760 that means the evidence isn't there to convict.
01:06:28.220 I don't know whether he's guilty,
01:06:30.840 and that's true of many of my clients.
01:06:33.620 When all was said and done,
01:06:35.560 there's a scene where you pull Klaus aside
01:06:38.520 after you've gotten his convictions overturned,
01:06:42.040 and you say...
01:06:43.380 One thing, Klaus.
01:06:45.160 Legally, this was an important victory.
01:06:47.940 Morally, you're on your own.
01:06:50.440 Did that happen?
01:06:51.320 And if so, why did you say that to him?
01:06:53.100 I did.
01:06:53.660 And because he wanted me to go on television and proclaim my absolute certainty in his innocence, and I couldn't do that.
01:07:03.680 I mean, there were many, many possible theories.
01:07:05.820 One possible theory that a lot of people who knew them told me, it's just a possible theory, is that she went into a coma.
01:07:14.860 He saw her, and he could easily have called the ambulance, and he didn't, because he was perfectly happy to have her die.
01:07:21.980 Now, that would be morally horrible, but legally not culpable.
01:07:27.260 Now, I didn't know what happened.
01:07:29.040 I almost never know what happens with my clients, because the first thing you know as a criminal defense lawyer is they all lie to you all the time.
01:07:36.360 You know, my first meeting with most of my defendants, the first meeting they say, oh, I didn't do anything.
01:07:42.620 I'm perfectly innocent and I should win the Nobel Prize.
01:07:46.540 Second meeting, they take the Nobel Prize off the table.
01:07:49.460 I didn't do anything.
01:07:50.300 Third meeting, well, I did a lot of bad things, but I didn't do this. The fourth meeting is I did this, but they can't prove it. So, you know, you have to know when you're dealing with these people and when you're a criminal defense lawyer, you're dealing 90 percent with guilty people. That's why the conviction rate is so high.
01:08:08.020 You know, I've been very, very lucky. I've won like 30 of my 32 or three homicide homicide related cases. But most of these cases result in in convictions and in many of the cases in justifiable convictions.
01:08:23.140 But the criminal defense lawyer has to do everything in their power,
01:08:27.600 ethically and morally, to bring about a reversal or an acquittal
01:08:32.100 of the best possible deal you can.
01:08:34.120 And a lot of people don't understand that.
01:08:36.600 And they think my job is to be his rabbi, his priest, his minister, his mother.
01:08:40.360 No, I'm his defense lawyer. That's all I do.
01:08:44.660 But the family has never wavered on their belief about Klaus's guilt.
01:08:49.160 Here is Sonny's son from her first marriage, Alexander.
01:08:52.020 Klaus von Bülow only succeeded in depriving our mother of meaningful life, and now he's gotten away with it. 0.58
01:08:59.340 In 1983, Dershowitz stood in front of the Rhode Island Supreme Court in the first appellate argument that state ever put on live television and asked five justices to do the most unpopular thing they could, erase a conviction the public strongly supported.
01:09:17.040 We argued it in front of the Supreme Court of Rhode Island, which was a very tough court.
01:09:25.100 And people told me that we would never win in front of that court.
01:09:29.140 Years after the trial, Dershowitz says he and his team realized the legal violation alone would not be enough to get a reversal.
01:09:37.080 We had to persuade them there had really been a miscarriage of justice, not merely a violation of the Constitution.
01:09:43.360 In April of 1984, the court gave its answer. Both counts reversed. On two grounds. First,
01:09:52.780 those Q notes. The family's lawyer could not hand pieces of his file to the state police
01:09:58.500 and attorney general and then hide the rest from Klaus's defense team behind assertions of
01:10:04.240 privilege. And second, the black bag. At the end of our previous episode, Sonny's son, Alexander,
01:10:11.660 Q, and a locksmith go to Clarendon Court. The locksmith opens Klaus's locked closet,
01:10:19.020 and inside is Klaus's black bag. They simply take it. The contents of that bag are then tested
01:10:25.000 by the von Oersberg's family doctor, and he finds insulin. The bag and its contents are then given
01:10:32.460 by the family to the Rhode Island State Police. The state police send all the bag's contents to
01:10:38.640 a lab for testing without getting a warrant. That gave the defense an opening. Dershowitz
01:10:45.680 had built the whole appeal on state law, Rhode Island's own constitution, which put the reversal
01:10:51.820 beyond the reach of the U.S. Supreme Court. The only question left was whether prosecutors would
01:10:58.160 seek a retrial. Because a reversal is not an acquittal. It doesn't send you home for good.
01:11:04.880 It sends you back to the starting line.
01:11:07.740 Klaus von Bülow was not a free man in the spring of 1984.
01:11:11.840 He was an unconvicted one.
01:11:14.140 And the state of Rhode Island still believed he was a would-be murderer and still intended to try him again.
01:11:21.220 Dershowitz says the greatest compliment he's received about this case actually came from the movie Reversal of Fortune, on which his own son was a producer.
01:11:29.200 What I loved about the movie, which my son helped to produce, was when we went to see it a few times in the theater, people would walk out arguing with each other as to whether he did it or not.
01:11:41.240 And that was the brilliance of the movie, I thought, that it didn't give you an absolute final resolution.
01:11:48.620 It lets you decide what you think.
01:11:51.880 So the case that ended restarts.
01:11:55.120 The trial moves from Newport to Providence.
01:11:58.060 Bambulo's defense changes hands.
01:12:00.500 And a reversal, remember, is not the same as proving a man innocent.
01:12:05.980 That distinction runs through this whole story.
01:12:09.180 This time, though, the Dream Team will not just play defense.
01:12:13.280 This time, they will try to prove there was never a crime at all.
01:12:17.820 That's next time on MK Confidential.
01:12:19.860 it is the spring of 1985 in a hospital bed in new york a woman named sunny von bulow has been
01:12:33.940 unconscious for more than four years and she is never going to wake up 90 miles away in rhode
01:12:41.040 island the man a jury once said put her in that coma is preparing to stand trial for a second time
01:12:47.760 Sonny's children speak as she cannot.
01:12:51.400 She's serving a life sentence.
01:12:53.640 She'll never open her eyes again or recognize anybody.
01:12:57.280 She'll never talk to her children.
01:12:58.780 She'll never see her grandchildren.
01:13:00.800 Three years ago, a Rhode Island jury found Klaus von Bülow guilty of trying to murder his wife.
01:13:07.440 A year ago, a higher court threw out that verdict.
01:13:11.040 Klaus, now free on bail, his first conviction erased,
01:13:15.380 wants one thing and says so to anyone with a camera.
01:13:19.840 Here he talks to Kiro Eyewitness News.
01:13:22.800 I admit to great fatigue and suffering during the last three years
01:13:27.220 and there are moments when I just wish it would go away.
01:13:30.420 So there's a dichotomy, but I want to get exonerated.
01:13:36.520 Exonerated is the word he keeps using.
01:13:38.780 not released on a technicality but rather cleared by a jury out loud. Now Klaus is back where he
01:13:46.880 started facing the same two counts of attempted murder but with a new direction for the defense
01:13:52.660 courtesy of the Dershowitz team in a new courthouse in Providence with a jury that has never heard the
01:13:59.720 case. If this jury convicts the appeal that freed him will have bought him nothing and he will likely
01:14:05.900 spend the rest of his life in prison. This time, the defense will not just argue that the state
01:14:11.940 cannot prove its case, but that there was never any crime at all. I'm Megan Kelly, and this is MK
01:14:20.160 Confidential. For the retrial, Klaus von Bülow has a new lead lawyer, and he is nothing like the
01:14:29.100 elegant defendant he represents. His name is Thomas Puccio. He made his reputation as a
01:14:35.500 federal prosecutor who ran the FBI sting operation Abscam, in which agents posed as wealthy Arab
01:14:41.900 businessmen to expose political corruption and put multiple congressmen in prison. He is not
01:14:48.460 a society lawyer. He is blunt and combative, a street fighter. Puccio takes over the courtroom
01:14:55.780 and Alan Dershowitz, who won the appeal, moves into the background. Puccio's plan is the opposite
01:15:02.580 of the first trial, the one that had been about money, a mistress, and an oceanfront mansion.
01:15:10.140 Puccio strips all of it away and tries the case as a single question of medicine. What actually
01:15:17.580 put Sonny von Bülow into a coma? And as before, Klaus von Bülow will not take the stand.
01:15:25.780 But moving into the background is not the same as stepping away.
01:15:30.020 Years later, Dershowitz would describe just how much of the second trial ran on the work he and his students had already done.
01:15:38.320 The whole retrial was based on our work.
01:15:42.120 In fact, my two main research assistants from the law school, Joanne Crispy and a guy from the medical school,
01:15:50.100 they sat with the trial lawyer and fed him all the information.
01:15:54.560 So I was very centrally involved in the trial.
01:15:58.160 I spoke to the legal team every single day.
01:16:01.320 And out of the courtroom, another figure is fighting for Klaus von Bülow and fighting the loudest.
01:16:08.200 Her name is Andrea Reynolds.
01:16:10.640 She's Hungarian-born and glamorous and still married to her television producer husband.
01:16:17.000 Andrea has known Klaus and Sonny socially for years,
01:16:19.520 but she and Klaus did not become lovers until after his first trial had ended.
01:16:24.560 That timing matters. The mistress the state built its motive around at the first trial was a different woman, the actress Alexandra Isles. Reynolds entered the story only afterward, so the companion the cameras now catch at Klaus's side was never part of the love and money case Rhode Island prosecutors once put to a jury.
01:16:46.400 Andrea Reynolds does not do subtle. 1.00
01:16:49.620 She courts the reporters covering the case, dines with them, drives them around and calls their editors when the coverage displeases her. 1.00
01:16:57.820 Barred from the courtroom, she watches the live feed from inside the CNN truck and slowly takes over the booth until the network finally asks her to leave.
01:17:07.000 It is Reynolds who decides Klaus needs a warmer face for the retrial.
01:17:12.800 That the cold, aristocratic figure the first jury saw was half the reason they convicted him.
01:17:18.920 She runs the campaign to clear his name like a military operation.
01:17:23.380 Andrea's own husband, watching all of it from the outside, offers the driest verdict of the whole affair.
01:17:30.260 If Klaus has to marry Andrea, he will wish he had been convicted.
01:17:34.840 On April 7th, Bombulo, his daughter Cosima, and his girlfriend Andrea Reynolds arrived at the Biltmore Hotel.
01:17:42.600 The next day, when Bombulo showed up at the courthouse for the first day of jury selection,
01:17:47.040 a small army of print and broadcast journalists from around the world surrounded him as he made his way into the building.
01:17:54.020 It takes nine days just to seat a jury, eight women and four men.
01:17:58.600 and Judge Corinne Grand orders them sequestered, kept together in a hotel, cut off from the outside
01:18:05.920 for the length of the trial. Before a word of testimony, they are loaded onto a bus and driven
01:18:11.560 to Newport, Rhode Island, to walk through Clarendon Court itself, the oceanfront mansion
01:18:17.560 where both comas happened. The press follows, filming the entire thing, rising above the
01:18:23.380 grounds in bucket trucks while helicopters circle overhead. And Klaus, who has not set foot in the
01:18:31.100 house in more than four years, steps onto the grounds, sees the dogs he used to walk, and for
01:18:37.760 a moment his composure breaks. He weeps briefly, then he collects himself and goes inside with the
01:18:46.420 jury. To see what Puccio is up against, remember what convinced the first jury. The state's medical
01:18:53.880 case rested on a simple, powerful chain. When Sunny was admitted for her comas, her blood sugar
01:19:00.640 was dangerously low. And after her final coma, the lab reported an enormous amount of insulin in her
01:19:08.040 blood. Low sugar, high insulin, which the state said could only mean insulin from outside her body.
01:19:16.420 from a needle. To get there in the first trial, the prosecution had called Dr. George Cahill of
01:19:22.100 Harvard, the man other doctors called the experts expert on blood sugar. Cahill told the jury that
01:19:29.160 only injected insulin could explain what the lab found. Doctor, do you have an opinion based upon
01:19:36.060 your review of the records and based upon your experience in your training and based upon a
01:19:40.540 reasonable degree of medical certainty as to whether or not the insulin was endogenous or
01:19:46.040 exogenous. Like all the data that I've looked at, it would be exogenous. And when the defense
01:19:52.220 suggested Sonny's barbiturates and drinking might have caused a coma on their own, Cahill did not
01:19:58.840 give an inch. Asked whether barbiturates can cause a coma, he answered they certainly can,
01:20:04.260 but not with a blood sugar of 29, sir. It was clean. It was confident. And the first time
01:20:11.620 around, it helped produce a sentence of 30 years in prison for Klaus von Bülow. Puccio's team goes
01:20:19.040 after that chain, one link at a time, starting with the image everyone carried out of the first
01:20:24.580 trial, the small black bag from von Bülow's closet and the used needle inside. It looked
01:20:32.220 like a murder weapon. But one of the young lawyers Dershowitz recruited, a Harvard law graduate
01:20:38.340 named Joanne Crispy, says the bag was never really the heart of the case. Here she is with
01:20:44.520 journalist Bill Curtis on American Justice. Well, a lot of people, you know, outside the case think
01:20:52.540 of the encrusted needles in the black bag or the black bag itself as the smoking gun. The black bag
01:20:59.880 was not the smoking gun in this case.
01:21:01.580 The smoking gun in this case
01:21:02.760 was the 216 insulin level
01:21:05.840 in Sonny von Buehler's blood.
01:21:09.540 216.
01:21:10.860 That's the number
01:21:11.880 on which this entire case rests.
01:21:14.960 An insulin reading so high,
01:21:16.900 the state's doctors said
01:21:18.240 it could only mean insulin
01:21:19.800 from outside her body,
01:21:21.980 from a needle.
01:21:23.680 Hold on to that 216 number, though,
01:21:26.060 because the defense will.
01:21:28.240 When Dershowitz,
01:21:29.140 Crispy and the team pull the laboratory's own records, they find something the first jury
01:21:34.340 never heard. The lab had run that same blood sample for insulin more than once and had gotten
01:21:40.780 wildly different answers. One reading came back at 216. Another came back at zero. A third at 350.
01:21:50.160 One sample tested again and again three vastly different results. To the defense, a number that
01:21:57.700 cannot be reproduced is not evidence of anything and should never have gone to a jury as the truth.
01:22:04.580 Then there is the needle itself, its tip encrusted with insulin. The prosecution in trial one said
01:22:12.220 that residue tied the weapon to the crime. The defense now says the residue tells the opposite
01:22:18.380 story. Dershowitz would later illustrate the argument on television with a glass of soda.
01:22:24.960 We did it with a turkey skewer and a glass of milk, but you can do it with anything.
01:22:30.700 If you stick something in a liquid, like my finger in this glass of soda,
01:22:35.280 and you just let it dry, you see the liquid goes to the very tip and is encrusted in that way.
01:22:44.420 And that's the way the insulin was found on the needle in this case.
01:22:48.360 If, on the other hand, what you were to do was to take a needle and inject it,
01:22:53.000 the liquid would spread all throughout. A needle pushed through skin wipes clean as it goes in,
01:23:00.420 the defense argues. A needle dipped in insulin and left dry collects it at the very tip. To the
01:23:08.060 defense, the incrustation is not proof the needle was used on Sunny. It's a sign the needle was
01:23:15.120 dipped, staged, to look like a weapon. And the team goes one step further. They put the testing
01:23:22.220 itself to the test. Labs are just people, and scientists are just people, and people make
01:23:29.580 mistakes all the time. So we decided, first of all, to test the lab. What we did is we sent them
01:23:35.800 several needles. One had insulin, one had saline solution, one had barbiturates, one had
01:23:44.160 combinations, and we wanted to see what the test results would be. And they came back,
01:23:49.540 And many of them came back saying insulin when there was no insulin.
01:23:54.500 So there were false positives.
01:23:56.460 Then the defense calls a witness who had testified for the prosecution the first time around.
01:24:01.680 Dr. Janice Galitis, the Newport physician who saved Sonny's life during her first coma back in 1979.
01:24:09.560 This time, Galitis tells the jury that in his own judgment, that first coma was not caused by insulin at all,
01:24:17.280 but by Sonny's airway closing and her aspirating while unconscious.
01:24:22.660 And the doctor testifies to something even more damaging,
01:24:26.060 that before the first trial, he had given the prosecutors that very opinion
01:24:30.720 and that they told him not to volunteer it on the stand.
01:24:35.440 If even one of Sonny's two comas was not an insulin injection,
01:24:40.160 the state's elegant chain begins to come apart.
01:24:44.200 This second jury also never hears the prosecution's clearest motive.
01:24:49.460 At the first trial, the state told a story of love and money.
01:24:54.000 First and foremost, a mistress pressing Klaus to marry her.
01:24:58.200 More on that in a minute.
01:24:59.960 Klaus's other alleged motive?
01:25:02.200 The roughly $14 million, equivalent to about $48 million today.
01:25:07.760 He stood to inherit under Sonny's will versus what he would get if he divorced her.
01:25:14.080 This time, Judge Grand bars the family's banker, Morris Gurley, from telling the jury about the money at all.
01:25:20.840 Her ruling is narrow, and at the time, it is one of the most criticized decisions of the trial.
01:25:27.040 Grand finds there is no foundation connecting financial gain to the specific acts the state alleges,
01:25:33.840 that, in her words, there is not a suggestion anywhere that financial gain drove the defendant
01:25:39.420 to do what the state says he did. To let a jury hear the $14 million anyway, she reasons,
01:25:46.340 would invite them to convict on a motive rather than on evidence. And because Klaus again does
01:25:52.920 not testify, the prosecution never gets another opportunity to introduce the inheritance evidence
01:25:59.100 in rebuttal. The motive that anchored the whole first trial, the idea that Sonny's fortune gave
01:26:06.580 Klaus a reason to want her dead, is a story this second jury simply never hears. And now the jury
01:26:14.940 hears about the Q notes. In our last episode, Alan Dershowitz pried loose the interview notes
01:26:21.220 that the family's own lawyer, the former Manhattan prosecutor Richard Q, had kept from the defense
01:26:27.100 for years by claiming they were privileged. At this trial, those notes finally come out
01:26:32.600 in open court. The defense argues that in the earliest interviews taken within days
01:26:38.560 of Sonny's coma, the insulin that would become the center of this entire case went unmentioned
01:26:45.340 and that the account changed over time, hardening into the version eventually presented to the
01:26:52.520 first jury. Q has always answered that omission means nothing, that he simply did not write down
01:26:59.060 everything he was told. This jury gets to weigh both. To Dershowitz, the notes were the entire
01:27:06.360 case. The notes proved that there was no insulin and that there never was insulin. And look, I
01:27:13.700 don't... How? They had descriptions of what was found every time the maid looked into the little
01:27:21.300 case, and there was no mention of anything even resembling insulin. The prosecution's other pillar
01:27:28.240 was the mistress, Alexandra Isles, the soap opera actress the state had cast as Von Bulo's reason
01:27:34.860 to kill in the first trial. She has fled the United States rather than face a second trial,
01:27:41.320 purportedly to visit her mother in Ireland, telling a former lover of hers that she has
01:27:45.800 no intention of returning to testify. For most of the second trial, Sonny's children remain
01:27:52.000 remote figures, staying out of sight. But upon hearing this news, that their stepfather's
01:27:58.080 former mistress is not coming back to testify, Alexander and Allah step forward in a blaze of
01:28:04.440 publicity. At a New York news conference, they appeal for Alexandra Isles to return and testify,
01:28:10.200 and they speak as they have all along
01:28:13.060 for the mother who cannot speak for herself.
01:28:16.640 Klaus von Hulow as a defender
01:28:18.100 is entitled to a fair trial.
01:28:20.720 But as a victim, so is our mother.
01:28:24.480 Our mother has been deprived in effect of her life.
01:28:28.260 Please don't let our mother be deprived of justice.
01:28:31.700 Alexandra Isles realizes
01:28:33.020 that her greatest star turn is upon her.
01:28:37.120 She ends her months of European seclusion
01:28:39.380 and returns to Rhode Island to take the stand against her former lover.
01:28:44.700 Even when Alexandra was starring on the TV show Dark Shadows,
01:28:48.480 she never made such a dramatic entrance.
01:28:52.180 Demurely yet firmly, she takes the stand at the second trial
01:28:56.260 and describes a 1980 phone call in which Klaus von Bülow confides in her
01:29:01.300 that he stood by and watched as his wife slipped deep into a coma.
01:29:06.820 He watched her, knowing that she was in a bad way all day, and watched her and watched her, and finally, when she was on the point of dying, he said that he couldn't go through with it, and he called and saved her life.
01:29:25.800 It is testimony that cuts both ways. In the same account, Klaus watches his wife
01:29:32.420 sink toward death and does nothing, and then at the last moment calls the help that saves Sonny's
01:29:38.980 life. The prosecution hears a near confession. The defense hears the opposite. A man who could
01:29:45.900 have a woman who tried to kill herself die and instead rescues her. But Puccio is not satisfied
01:29:54.360 with turning Alexandra's account into a rescue.
01:29:57.800 On cross-examination, he turns it back on her.
01:30:01.800 Well, you're saying that you wrote a letter
01:30:03.960 saying that you wanted a continue relationship.
01:30:05.820 Have you ever been in love?
01:30:07.560 I doubt it, but you do some crazy things.
01:30:11.020 Iles concedes that even after the first trial,
01:30:13.780 she had written to Klaus asking to continue the relationship.
01:30:18.680 That's Puccio's point.
01:30:20.780 A woman who truly believed this man had tried to murder his wife
01:30:24.240 would not have kept writing to him, wanting to be with him, asking him back.
01:30:29.900 After weeks of experts and lab reports and blood chemistry, the lawyers sum up.
01:30:35.920 Puccio zeroes in on the heart of the prosecution's case, the maid.
01:30:40.500 He turns the jury back to Maria Schralhammer, Sonny's devoted maid of 23 years
01:30:46.900 and the state's star witness in both trials.
01:30:51.140 Puccio argues that if Maria had really seen what she later swore she saw,
01:30:56.120 she would not have stayed quiet about it.
01:30:59.120 If, in fact, she saw, as she says she did,
01:31:03.660 a lot of it said insulin, needles, and syringes,
01:31:06.140 bells would have gone off.
01:31:09.320 Bells would have gone off,
01:31:10.780 and the whole world would have gone at that very moment.
01:31:14.420 The prosecutor, Mark DeSisto, gives the jury the other picture,
01:31:18.240 the one the state has believed from the start.
01:31:48.240 The case goes to the jury, and the waiting begins.
01:31:54.860 These 12 people have now been sequestered for roughly eight weeks,
01:31:59.080 kept together in a Providence Holiday Inn,
01:32:01.880 apart from husbands and wives and children, the entire time.
01:32:06.120 By now, the trial has disrupted not only their lives,
01:32:09.280 but the lives of the people waiting for them back at home.
01:32:11.980 We've been married 36 years, and I don't think we've ever been separated, what, five days.
01:32:16.380 So it's been a long while.
01:32:18.240 On June 10th, 1985, after roughly eight weeks of testimony and four days of deliberation,
01:32:25.560 the jury comes back into courtroom number eight in Providence, Rhode Island, and the clerk reads the two charges.
01:32:33.460 I see power on the charge of the defendant committed on December 27th, 1979.
01:32:39.180 The crime of assault and tension in that body of crime, guilty or not guilty?
01:32:43.320 Not guilty.
01:32:43.940 I actually count you on the charge of the Federal Committee on December 21st, 19-8,
01:32:52.760 the crime of assault, extension of it. How do you find it? Guilty or not guilty?
01:32:56.920 Not guilty.
01:33:01.840 Not guilty on both counts. Andrea Reynolds, the woman who spent three years fighting to free him,
01:33:08.780 begins to cry. Klaus von Bülow, convicted three years earlier and sentenced to 30 years in prison,
01:33:17.100 walks out of the courthouse a free man. That evening, Klaus sits down with Newswatch 10
01:33:22.880 for his first interview since the acquittal. When he is asked what he thinks actually happened to
01:33:28.380 his wife, his answer is not triumphant. I don't know. I know that I'm totally convinced by the
01:33:38.720 medical picture i know i didn't do anything an acquittal is not the same as innocence
01:33:45.620 a jury has found only that the state did not prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt
01:33:50.880 it has not found that no one harmed sonny von bulow and it answers none of the questions at
01:33:57.280 the center of this case dennis roberts the rhode island attorney general who prosecuted the first
01:34:03.220 trial, makes this distinction. It's important, I think, for our viewers to note that being found
01:34:10.240 not guilty because there is a reasonable doubt is a long way from being found innocent.
01:34:15.860 The trial judge, Corinne Grand, will say privately that in her view, it was not even a close case,
01:34:21.880 that Klaus simply did not try to kill Sonny. Sonny's children see it the other way around.
01:34:28.840 The day of the verdict, they step up to a bank of microphones.
01:34:32.360 We are disappointed with the jury's verdict, but we know that this jury was not permitted to hear all of the evidence that was admitted at the first trial.
01:34:39.800 At the start of the second trial, the jury had toured the darkened halls of Clarendon Court, walking the layout of the alleged crime scenes.
01:34:48.080 While that jury is out deliberating, Sonny's children, Ala and Alexander, invite journalist Dominic Dunn, who had known Sonny since she was a debutante and has covered the whole affair, to spend the night at Clarendon Court.
01:35:04.360 He finds Sonny's bedroom kept exactly as it was the night of the second coma.
01:35:09.500 He finds the twin beds pushed together and made up with Sonny's porto sheets.
01:35:14.060 An old photograph of Klaus looking almost noble in a silver frame on his side of the bed and in a closet beside her evening gowns, the Christmas presents from 1980, still wrapped, the festive paper gone faded and limp.
01:35:33.560 One from Sonny's oldest friend, one from her dead mother.
01:35:37.460 On Klaus's bedside table, there is a handsome box.
01:35:42.980 Dominic Dunn opens it.
01:35:45.240 Inside are cartridge shells, and underneath the shells, a used syringe.
01:35:52.240 Dunn thinks about that box for a long time afterward.
01:35:56.500 Twelve strangers saw Clarendon Court for an afternoon as evidence.
01:36:01.100 A reporter sees what it has truly become.
01:36:04.780 The night of the verdict, Klaus von Bülow can go anywhere he likes.
01:36:09.700 He's a free man, acquitted of the crime that made him famous.
01:36:14.280 Ninety miles away, in a room on the 10th floor of a New York hospital,
01:36:19.480 his wife Sunny lies exactly as she has since that second Christmas in 1980.
01:36:24.840 Her hair washed and set twice a week, and she will stay that way for the next 23 years,
01:36:31.520 like a doll, primped and perfectly coiffed, well-looked after, and all but dead,
01:36:40.380 confined to a life of no mobility nor consciousness. She is the silent center of a case the jury just
01:36:48.060 decided, without deciding anything about how she, in fact, got there. Next time, Sonny's children
01:36:56.720 have one more arrow in their quiver, and Klaus von Bülow begins his next life an ocean away.
01:37:05.280 I'm Megan Kelly, and this is MK Confidential.
01:37:13.700 June 1985. On the 10th floor of the Harkness Pavilion inside Columbia Presbyterian Medical
01:37:20.440 Center in New York, a woman lies in a private room she will never leave on her own. She's
01:37:26.680 not on a respirator. She breathes without help. A tube feeds her through her nose. Private nurses
01:37:33.220 watch her around the clock, and twice a week someone washes and sets her hair. There are
01:37:38.980 scented flowers on the table and music playing softly in the room. Her name is Martha Von Bulow.
01:37:46.120 Everyone who loves her calls her Sunny, and she has not spoken a word since the winter of 1980.
01:37:53.500 Ninety miles away in Providence, a jury has just told the world that the man accused of putting her in that bed is not guilty.
01:38:02.260 The Kloss von Bülow trial is finally over, and he is not guilty.
01:38:06.520 Von Bülow was tried twice in a soap opera setting for the attempted murder of his wealthy wife.
01:38:11.260 The first jury found him guilty, but he won a new trial, and this time he was cleared.
01:38:15.660 How do you find guilty or not guilty?
01:38:18.280 Not guilty.
01:38:18.860 so ended the second trial of klaus von bulow accused of trying to murder his wife
01:38:25.020 longer but not as dramatic as the first trial three years ago tonight klaus von bulow can go
01:38:31.140 anywhere he likes sunny cannot turn her head the murder trials are the part of this story that
01:38:37.820 ends relatively quickly hers is the part that does not her two children from her first marriage
01:38:45.040 alexander and ala von hoursberg turn their grief into something that will outlast the case
01:38:51.200 in 1985 they helped found a national organization for the victims of crime and they name it for
01:38:57.260 their mother the sunny von bulow national victim advocacy center in time it drops her name but it
01:39:04.400 grows into one of the largest victims rights groups in america known today as the national
01:39:09.040 Center for Victims of Crime. That becomes the legacy of Sonny von Bulow. That and the belief
01:39:15.180 that whatever a Rhode Island jury says, someone put her there, condemned her to unconscious bedrest
01:39:22.940 for the rest of her life. But Klaus does not walk away scot-free. I'm Megan Kelly,
01:39:30.080 and this is MK Confidential. Klaus von Bulow's acquittal ends the state's case. It does not end
01:39:38.060 his stepchildren's. Alexander and Allah cannot put him on trial for the crime again, so they do the 0.97
01:39:44.440 one thing the law still allows. They sue him in federal court in Manhattan in a civil case. 0.68
01:39:51.120 The number they seek is enormous, $56 million, and the claim behind it is the one the prosecution
01:39:57.360 made twice, that he tried to kill their mother for her money. The man who has just cleared his
01:40:03.420 name in a criminal court, now has to defend it again in a civil one. His appellate lawyer,
01:40:09.780 Alan Dershowitz, laid out the stakes back in 1986. Yeah, we see each other all the time. We
01:40:15.340 talk about his ongoing case. He's being sued by his stepchildren for $56 million. The case is
01:40:21.700 not over. And indeed, the American public still remains undecided. One of the reasons I wrote
01:40:26.640 this book is Klaus von Bülow not only wanted to be acquitted, he wanted to be vindicated.
01:40:30.740 In time, the civil case settles, and the settlement reads like a verdict of its own.
01:40:38.260 Under its reported terms, Klaus gives up every claim to Sonny's fortune, and agrees to divorce
01:40:44.720 his wife, who will never know she has been divorced. In exchange, the lawsuit against him
01:40:50.660 is dropped. He keeps his freedom, he gives up the money the state always said was his motive.
01:40:57.520 One person is caught between the two sides of the family,
01:41:01.200 Cosima, the only child of Klaus and Sonny,
01:41:04.460 who stood by her father through both trials, and it cost her.
01:41:09.500 Sonny's mother, Cosima's grandmother, Annie Laurie Aitken,
01:41:14.180 cuts Cosima out of her will,
01:41:16.480 an estate valued between $50 and more than $110 million.
01:41:21.000 Cosima lost a share worth about $25 million.
01:41:25.120 The exact figure was never the point.
01:41:28.040 The rift was about a daughter's loyalty to a man the rest of the family believed had tried to kill her mother.
01:41:35.080 The estrangement is real, and for years it holds.
01:41:39.320 Through both trials, Cosima and her half-sister, Ala, are not on speaking terms.
01:41:43.860 On the last day of the second trial, Dominic Dunn watches the two of them pass in a courthouse corridor,
01:41:50.800 the first time the two women have laid eyes on each other in three years and neither one says
01:41:56.840 a word later Allah tells him she's gotten so beautiful my mother would be very proud of her
01:42:03.560 the affection is still there the rupture is over money and loyalty and a father the rest of the
01:42:11.900 family cannot forgive what finally closes the rift is not a scene of forgiveness it's a legal
01:42:18.600 document. In December 1987, the same settlement that ends the $56 million lawsuit against Klaus
01:42:25.720 reinstates Cosima's inheritance. The grandmother who had cut Cosima out was dead and her will
01:42:33.620 stood. Ala and Alexander say they have no quarrel with Cosima at this point, and they agreed to
01:42:40.320 restore her to the one-third share their grandmother had first intended all three of them
01:42:45.880 to have. The thing that had split the three of them, Klaus's treatment of Sonny and her money,
01:42:51.820 is no longer a concern. The deeper reconciliation comes the way everything in this family finally
01:42:58.560 does, through Sonny. Whatever the three of them feel about Klaus, they are bound to the silent
01:43:04.820 woman in the hospital bed. And over the years, all three keep coming back to her room. When she dies
01:43:11.940 in 2008 after 28 years in that bed. Her children come together to bury her. Cosima would also spend
01:43:20.480 years caring for her own father, financing and following him when he moves out of the country.
01:43:26.800 She stays close to Klaus for the rest of his life. So what becomes of Klaus von Bülow? Free
01:43:33.760 and stripped of the fortune that made him who he wanted to be, he does not retreat. He gives
01:43:41.000 interviews, he goes to parties. He lets the notoriety settle over him and carries it almost
01:43:47.840 with relish. The image that fixes him in the public mind comes from the trial itself.
01:43:54.920 All through the second trial, while a jury is weighing whether or not he tried to murder his
01:43:59.360 wife, Klaus spends his weekends back in New York. There, his lover and public relations strategist,
01:44:06.140 Andrea Reynolds, has moved into Sonny's own 14-room apartment on Fifth Avenue.
01:44:12.360 There, in rooms still full of Sonny's things, the couple entertains. Dominic Dunn, who travels in
01:44:19.180 the same circles, sees what goes on inside. He described it in an interview with the Television
01:44:24.960 Academy Foundation. She had moved into Sonny Vambula's apartment on Fifth Avenue, one of the
01:44:31.680 most beautiful apartments and they gave a lunch party this is during a murder trial
01:44:38.800 with butlers with white gloves and and all this kind of stuff well i mean that's right up my alley
01:44:45.280 i have to tell you i mean and they and helmet newton the great photographer a wonderful man
01:44:54.000 genius i think and a great friend of mine he photographed klaus and andrea in black leather
01:45:01.600 I don't know if you remember those famous photographs he had during the trial.
01:45:07.660 The audacity is the point.
01:45:10.500 While on trial for trying to murder his wife, Klaus hosts a lunch party in her apartment
01:45:15.620 with white-gloved butlers serving the guests,
01:45:19.200 then poses in black leather for one of the world's most famous photographers.
01:45:25.260 And when the acquittal comes, society does not shut its doors to him.
01:45:30.340 In fact, it opens them.
01:45:32.420 Klaus and Andrea make one of their first appearances at a party given by Lady Jean Campbell,
01:45:38.280 a Duke's daughter and a former wife of Norman Mailer.
01:45:41.980 They take a box at the Metropolitan Opera on Monday nights,
01:45:45.560 the house's old society night, where white tie is still the custom,
01:45:50.560 and the same families fill the same boxes they always have.
01:45:54.800 Klaus and Andrea turn up at Mortimer's,
01:45:56.860 the restaurant where Manhattan goes to be seen. Not everyone will have him. At one dinner,
01:46:03.460 a magazine editor says she will walk out if she is seated at his table. But most of the
01:46:08.760 charmed circle takes him back. Dominic Dunn would write that Vambulo's dark and spacious
01:46:14.600 place in social history has been assured. It is Reynolds who has stage managed this whole
01:46:22.260 comeback. She's the one who decided that the cold, aristocratic figure the first jury saw
01:46:27.540 needed softening, and she remade his public image for the retrial. She calls their courtship a ballet
01:46:34.380 of seduction and says he needs a witness to account for his every move. But the romance
01:46:40.400 does not last. Within a few years of the verdict, Reynolds and Klaus quietly part ways. She goes on
01:46:47.620 to marry an English aristocrat, the Honorable Sean Plunkett. Klaus does not stay in New York
01:46:54.000 to be talked about. Dominic Dunn watches Klaus return to society and remains convinced the jury
01:46:59.920 got it wrong. Here he is again with the Television Academy Foundation. In your opinion, guilty? Oh,
01:47:06.880 yes, I felt so. And he hates me a lot the way I wrote about him. So Klaus moves to London,
01:47:14.680 the city where he first made his name, and settles back into its dinner parties and its
01:47:20.100 opera boxes, as though the last five years had been a long, unpleasant weekend. He takes a job
01:47:26.340 reviewing plays for a Catholic newspaper. He never again mounts a public campaign to prove his
01:47:32.120 innocence, and by all appearances, he never needs to. He has his verdict, and he is received in the
01:47:39.060 drawing rooms of London again, if not on the scale Sonny's money once paid for. He lives out
01:47:44.620 his years quietly and comfortably on Cosima's support. He follows the advice of his lawyer,
01:47:50.840 Alan Dershowitz, the same advice Alan's given every client who wins a case the public
01:47:55.840 desperately wants them to lose. Alan told me this when we spoke.
01:48:00.700 I gave him advice, the same advice I gave O.J. Simpson when we won both cases. I said,
01:48:06.280 disappear. Nobody wants to see your face. They hate your guts. Go away. And Klaus took my advice,
01:48:14.980 went to England, stayed out of the public light. Through it all, Klaus's reinvention and interviews
01:48:21.200 and parties, Sonny von Bulow does not change at all other than to age. While Klaus dines out first
01:48:29.340 in New York and then in London, his wife lies in the same hospital bed. And the argument over what
01:48:35.520 she was and what was done to her carries on above her head and she cannot say a word. Her care costs
01:48:43.500 a fortune, more than half a million dollars a year. Dr. Richard Stock, who has been her physician
01:48:50.260 for nearly 30 years, comes to see her several times a week. Her room is kept as for a wife
01:48:57.020 being welcomed home. Her own nightgowns, her own skin creams, music in the air, and her children
01:49:03.840 keep watch. Alexander and Allah visit their mother often. When Allah's own daughter is small,
01:49:10.500 she brings the little girl named Sunny for her grandmother into the room so that Sunny might 0.55
01:49:16.380 somehow know she has a granddaughter. They talk to her. They touch her. They tell her about their
01:49:22.940 lives. The years pass, far more of them than anyone imagined. In 1998, at age 67, Sunny is
01:49:32.660 moved to a Manhattan nursing home, her hair still set, her nightgowns still her own, fresh flowers
01:49:39.500 still by the bed. And on December 6, 2008, Sunny dies there without ever having woken up. She is
01:49:47.800 76. Her children release a short statement calling her a woman of grace and dignity and the most
01:49:54.420 loving mother imaginable. A woman lost 28 years of her life. Whoever decided to hurt Sunny von
01:50:02.360 Bulo that day in 1980, this can't possibly have been the desired outcome. As for the public
01:50:09.440 relations around her case, long before Sonny died, the case had already split into competing stories.
01:50:16.780 Alan Dershowitz wrote the defense account in a book called Reversal of Fortune. Reporters like
01:50:23.040 Dominic Dunn wrote the skeptical ones, among them Dunn's own fatal charm. And then came the version
01:50:30.340 most people would remember a hollywood movie the film also called reversal of fortune arrives in
01:50:37.300 1990 it does the one thing neither trial could it gives sonny a voice the filmmakers let her
01:50:45.220 narrate the story from inside the coma that silenced her this was my body on december 27
01:50:54.660 7th, 1979, I lay in bed all day. Whether I was asleep or in a coma, later became a subject of
01:51:05.460 dispute. Jeremy Irons plays Klaus and wins the Academy Award for it. He almost turned down the
01:51:13.740 part. He explained why to the Hudson Union Society in 2009. When the movie Reversal Fortune was
01:51:21.560 offered to me, I thought it was a very tasteless idea, because most of the family was still alive
01:51:26.660 and had been through a very difficult, awful time. And I thought to have a film made about that
01:51:34.300 is sort of a nightmare. So I passed on it a few times. And then my friend Glenn Close persuaded
01:51:41.280 me, she said quite rightly, if I didn't do it, someone else would.
01:51:44.820 Irons would go on to win the Oscar for Best Actor in a leading role in 1991.
01:51:49.780 This is great. Thank you, my co-stars, Ron Silver and Glenn, for finally persuading me to do it.
01:52:03.760 And lastly, if I may cut the call of a telephone to London, where my wife is trying to keep awake in a hotel bedroom,
01:52:14.300 I wish you were here to help me carry this, because you helped me win it. Thank you all.
01:52:19.780 The movie becomes the definitive version of the Von Bulow case.
01:52:24.140 It makes Sonny famous all over again and dramatizes the doubt at the heart of everything,
01:52:30.140 conveniently avoiding some of the more troubling facts for Klaus,
01:52:34.040 like his quick return to the Newport home three days after Detective Reese asks him about insulin.
01:52:40.940 What the movie fails to do is settle the doubt.
01:52:44.700 No film could possibly answer what two juries could not.
01:52:49.780 Those two juries did not judge the same case.
01:52:52.720 The first heard the state's motive, the mistress, and the $14 million Klaus stood to inherit.
01:52:58.180 The second jury heard none of that.
01:53:01.120 The judge in the second trial barred testimony from the family banker about the will,
01:53:06.760 citing a lack of foundation.
01:53:08.900 She said there was insufficient evidence that Klaus's potential financial gain
01:53:12.440 quote, impelled him to allegedly harm Sonny.
01:53:16.160 The move was widely criticized at the time.
01:53:19.060 The second jury did hear a medical defense the first jury never did, that the science behind
01:53:25.480 the insulin reading was not reliable, that one of Sonny's comas may not have involved insulin at
01:53:31.940 all, and that the needle with insulin found in the infamous black bag looked like it had been
01:53:38.180 dipped in insulin, not used to inject an actual person. One jury convicted Klaus von Bülow,
01:53:45.680 a higher court, threw out that conviction. A second jury acquitted him, and that verdict
01:53:51.680 was final. Two juries, two opposite conclusions, and in the end, only the acquittal stood.
01:54:00.560 Both were asked the same question. Did Klaus von Bülow try to kill his wife?
01:54:05.560 Beneath that question, a harder one. Was either coma caused intentionally at all?
01:54:12.280 Alan Dershowitz has never claimed to know the answer.
01:54:15.440 The evidence points very strongly to a self-inflicted coma.
01:54:21.240 That's the balance of evidence.
01:54:22.880 Even if this were a civil case, not a criminal case,
01:54:25.420 I would say that you couldn't prove even civil liability by a preponderance of the evidence.
01:54:31.320 The preponderance favors innocence.
01:54:34.180 That doesn't mean he's innocent.
01:54:35.840 That means the evidence isn't there to convict.
01:54:38.700 I don't know whether he's guilty.
01:54:41.820 Sonny von Bülow knew.
01:54:43.660 She was in the room both times.
01:54:46.020 The one witness who knew everything was unable to tell any of it.
01:54:50.860 Frozen instead in an unreachable state.
01:54:54.780 This is all you can know.
01:54:58.260 All you can be told.
01:55:00.980 When you get where I am, you will know the rest.
01:55:05.800 More than a century ago, an American writer published a story called The Lady or the Tiger.
01:55:13.260 In the tale, a barbaric king decides guilt or innocence through a public spectacle.
01:55:19.440 An accused person must choose between two identical doors.
01:55:23.720 Behind one waits a tiger that would kill him.
01:55:26.520 Behind the other, a woman he must immediately marry.
01:55:29.940 When the king discovers that his daughter is secretly in love with a young man on the royal court,
01:55:35.100 He sends the man into the arena to choose between a tiger and a beautiful woman his daughter deeply
01:55:41.340 resents. The princess learns which door is which. From inside the arena, her lover looks to her for
01:55:49.680 guidance. She signals toward the door on the right, and he opens it without hesitation.
01:55:55.820 The story ends without showing what lies beyond that open door. Did the princess save the man
01:56:02.760 she loved, knowing he would marry another woman, or did jealousy cause her to send him to the 0.89
01:56:08.980 tiger? The writer never tells us. Was it the lady or the tiger? The reader is left to decide.
01:56:17.680 The Von Bulow case has its own two doors. Behind one is the defense's version, an unhappy,
01:56:25.000 self-destructive woman whose medical crises became a murder case through fear, unreliable 0.86
01:56:31.120 memory and flawed science. Behind the prosecution's door, a husband who twice tried to kill his wife
01:56:38.300 and whose money built a defense powerful enough to escape a second conviction. The two juries in
01:56:45.380 this case opened two different doors, but neither could say what actually happened inside Clarendon
01:56:51.680 Court. The answer stayed forever with Sonny and Klaus, who died in London in 2019. Of course,
01:57:00.080 we all have our opinions. I have mine. What do you think happened to Sonny Von Bulow?
01:57:07.660 Send me an email at megan at megankelly.com. We'll be back Monday evening with another case,
01:57:14.180 this one out of the nation's capital. For MK Confidential, I'm Megan Kelly.