The Megyn Kelly Show - November 25, 2025


Judge Dismisses Comey and James Cases, Pentagon Investigating Sen. Mark Kelly： AM Update 11⧸25


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A federal judge dismisses the indictments against former FBI Director James Comey and New York State Attorney General Letitia James, ruling in a pair of nearly identical opinions that the prosecutor who brought both cases was never lawfully appointed. All that and more coming up in today s AM Update.

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00:00:30.000 Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly.
00:00:34.920 It's Tuesday, November 25th, 2025, and this is your AM Update.
00:00:39.600 I'm grateful that the court ended the case against me,
00:00:42.180 which was a prosecution based on malevolence and incompetence.
00:00:46.300 As former FBI Director James Comey celebrates a recent court ruling tossing his indictment,
00:00:51.800 Attorney Will Chamberlain says not so fast.
00:00:54.460 You can't have a functioning military if there's disorder and chaos within the ranks.
00:01:00.000 The Pentagon announces an investigation into U.S. Senator from Arizona Mark Kelly,
00:01:04.760 connected to his participation in a video urging military members to disobey hypothetical unlawful
00:01:11.160 orders.
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00:02:38.000 A federal judge dismissing the indictments against former FBI Director James Comey
00:02:42.720 and New York State Attorney General Letitia James,
00:02:45.840 ruling in a pair of nearly identical opinions,
00:02:48.740 that the prosecutor who brought both cases was never lawfully appointed.
00:02:52.560 Both indictments brought by acting U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia,
00:02:57.380 Lindsay Halligan.
00:02:58.540 Halligan put in her position by A.G. Pam Bondi in September,
00:03:02.220 after Halligan's predecessor, Eric Siebert, resigned.
00:03:05.660 Siebert originally nabbed this role thanks to an appointment by the A.G.'s office,
00:03:09.580 but these temporary appointments are only good for 120 days.
00:03:14.140 When that period ended, Siebert was reappointed by federal judges,
00:03:18.360 which the controlling statute says is fine.
00:03:20.960 It's fine, but is it required?
00:03:23.800 That's the question in this case.
00:03:25.920 Comey argues that when Siebert resigned,
00:03:28.440 his interim successor could be chosen only by federal judges.
00:03:33.300 The DOJ says either judges or the Attorney General's office could do it.
00:03:37.760 Last month, both Comey and James separately moving to dismiss the cases,
00:03:42.600 arguing A.G. Bondi did not have the power to appoint Halligan to this post.
00:03:47.420 Clinton appointed U.S. District Judge Cameron McGowan-Curry,
00:03:50.740 siding with Comey and with James,
00:03:52.880 finding Halligan's appointment to be, quote,
00:03:54.820 invalid, and therefore, quote,
00:03:56.580 all actions flowing from Ms. Halligan's defective appointment
00:03:59.460 constitute unlawful exercises of executive power and must be set aside.
00:04:04.380 James, responding to the ruling with a statement, quote,
00:04:07.720 I am heartened by today's victory
00:04:09.480 and grateful for the prayers and support I have received from around the country.
00:04:14.240 I remain fearless in the face of these baseless charges.
00:04:18.600 She went on,
00:04:19.720 and I deeply admire myself for my courage.
00:04:23.220 She didn't really say that, but she did call herself fearless.
00:04:27.160 Comey taking to social media, naturally,
00:04:29.400 posting this video to Instagram.
00:04:31.020 I'm grateful that the court ended the case against me,
00:04:34.240 which was a prosecution based on malevolence and incompetence
00:04:38.200 and a reflection of what the Department of Justice has become under Donald Trump,
00:04:42.440 which is heartbreaking.
00:04:43.800 The message has to be sent that the president of the United States
00:04:47.380 cannot use the Department of Justice to target his political enemies.
00:04:52.160 I don't care what your politics are.
00:04:54.080 You have to see that as fundamentally un-American 0.98
00:04:56.680 and a threat to the rule of law that keeps all of us free.
00:04:59.940 Judge Curry dismissing both cases without prejudice,
00:05:04.100 meaning prosecutors can try again.
00:05:06.600 But with Comey's allegedly false statements to Congress now
00:05:09.360 beyond the statute of limitations,
00:05:12.000 the question in his case, unlike Letitia James's,
00:05:15.520 is whether they still can be refiled.
00:05:18.340 We spoke with senior counsel at the Article 3 project, Will Chamberlain,
00:05:22.040 who outlines a number of issues with this ruling,
00:05:24.420 telling us Comey is far from in the clear.
00:05:27.440 It means, first off, obviously the DOJ can simply appeal,
00:05:31.320 and if they win like they will, this won't matter.
00:05:33.560 But even if they lose on appeal, there's a statute, 18 U.S.C. Section 3288,
00:05:38.640 which says that whenever an indictment charging a felony is dismissed for any reason,
00:05:43.900 after the statute of limitations runs,
00:05:46.100 the DOJ has six calendar buffs to refile the indictment.
00:05:49.800 And so this is for any reason.
00:05:51.600 There's only a couple of exceptions to it.
00:05:53.500 One of them is, if the reason that your indictment got dismissed
00:05:57.560 is because the statute of limitations had expired,
00:06:00.360 you can't refile it later on.
00:06:02.420 But that's not the argument here.
00:06:03.820 This was dismissed for a different reason,
00:06:05.660 namely the fact that Lindsay Halligan, in Judge Curry's view,
00:06:09.440 was not properly appointed.
00:06:10.520 So there's no reason DOJ shouldn't be able to re-indict
00:06:13.540 within the next six months.
00:06:15.180 In other words, Comey should not pop the champagne just yet.
00:06:18.240 Judge Curry ruling that once the AG uses that 120-day window one time,
00:06:24.820 in this case for Halligan's predecessor, Siebert,
00:06:27.860 the power to appoint an interim U.S. attorney
00:06:30.340 shifts exclusively to the federal judges in that district.
00:06:35.220 Chamberlain argues that interpretation of the statute is not only incorrect,
00:06:39.060 it creates larger constitutional issues.
00:06:41.580 It's wrong on two levels.
00:06:43.520 First off, it's wrong as a matter of just plain language of the statute,
00:06:46.400 which says very clearly that the attorney general may appoint a U.S. attorney
00:06:50.820 if the relevant office is vacant.
00:06:54.080 And the only exception to that is that the attorney general
00:06:56.860 may not appoint someone who has been affirmatively outright rejected by the Senate.
00:07:01.080 Second, even if the statute were ambiguous,
00:07:04.080 she should err on the side of not ruling in a way
00:07:06.720 that creates constitutional questions.
00:07:08.580 And the problem with Judge Curry's opinion,
00:07:12.200 and specifically on this point,
00:07:13.800 is that if you grant the authority to appoint executive branch officials to the judiciary
00:07:20.720 exclusively, then that's a separation of powers violation
00:07:24.480 because the prosecutorial authority is the most quintessentially executive function there is.
00:07:30.220 And so that can't belong to the judiciary.
00:07:33.760 A.G. Bondi telling reporters yesterday the DOJ is immediately appealing this ruling.
00:07:39.280 We asked Chamberlain what he predicts will happen next.
00:07:41.840 That's just not going to pass constitutional muster,
00:07:44.280 especially after this last year of Supreme Court jurisprudence,
00:07:48.600 where the Supreme Court has basically dismissed all these attempts to
00:07:52.620 uphold these independent agencies and prevent President Trump from firing
00:07:56.280 members of, for example, the FCC.
00:07:58.820 The Supreme Court has rejected all of those as unconstitutional.
00:08:02.480 This clearly also would be unconstitutional under the same logic.
00:08:05.640 With the administration vowing to appeal and similar disputes popping up in other districts,
00:08:10.520 the question may ultimately require a definitive answer from the Supreme Court.
00:08:16.200 The Pentagon yesterday announcing an investigation into U.S. Senator from Arizona Mark Kelly,
00:08:21.920 a Democrat, quote,
00:08:23.000 The Department of War has received serious allegations of misconduct against retired Captain Mark
00:08:28.680 Kelly. A thorough review of these allegations has been initiated to determine further actions,
00:08:34.000 which may include recall to active duty for court-martial proceedings or administrative measures.
00:08:39.860 Last week, Senator Kelly participating in a video posted on X with five other Democrat lawmakers
00:08:45.640 urging military service members to ignore hypothetical unlawful orders.
00:08:50.920 We want to speak directly to members of the military.
00:08:53.980 This administration is pitting our uniformed military
00:08:56.800 and intelligence community professionals
00:08:58.700 against American citizens.
00:09:00.520 Our laws are clear.
00:09:01.780 You can refuse illegal orders.
00:09:04.000 The Pentagon now investigating whether Kelly's participation in the video amounts to
00:09:08.700 undermining good order and discipline in violation of a federal law that carries up to 10 years in prison.
00:09:15.520 President Trump accusing the Democrat lawmakers of sedition, calling for their imprisonment.
00:09:20.020 Secretary of War Pete Hegseth weighing in yesterday on X, quote,
00:09:24.340 The video made by the Seditious Six was despicable, reckless, and false.
00:09:29.880 Their foolish screed sows doubt and confusion, which only puts our warriors in danger.
00:09:35.520 Mark Kelly is still subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and he knows that.
00:09:40.980 Secretary Hegseth saying the other members do not fall under this military's purview
00:09:45.540 and therefore are not being investigated.
00:09:48.100 Senator Kelly firing back on social media, quote,
00:09:50.860 I swore an oath to the Constitution in 1986.
00:09:54.460 I have upheld it through 25 years of service and every day since I retired.
00:09:58.740 If Trump's trying to intimidate me, it won't work.
00:10:01.580 I've given too much to our country to be silenced by bullies who care more about power than the
00:10:06.700 Constitution.
00:10:07.720 White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt pointing to the lawmakers' inability to name an actual illegal
00:10:13.080 order from President Trump as evidence of their bad faith.
00:10:17.040 Senator Mark Kelly well knows the rules of the military and the respect that one must have for
00:10:22.720 the chain of command and that all lawful, all orders, lawful orders are presumed to be legal
00:10:27.440 by our service members.
00:10:28.540 You can't have a functioning military if there is disorder and chaos within the ranks.
00:10:33.680 And that's what these Democrat members were encouraging.
00:10:36.680 It's very clear.
00:10:37.440 And not a single one of them, since they've been pressed by the media, and I'll give you
00:10:41.520 guys credit for that, can point to a single illegal order that this administration has
00:10:45.680 given down because it does not exist.
00:10:48.120 They knew what they were doing in this video, and Senator Mark Kelly and all of them should
00:10:52.000 be held accountable for that.
00:10:53.400 Political commentator John Podoritz, who is a former presidential speechwriter but not an
00:10:58.260 attorney, suggesting Senator Kelly's comments are protected under the Speech and Debate Clause
00:11:03.320 of the Constitution, protecting members of Congress from legal action for things they say
00:11:08.100 as part of their legislative acts.
00:11:11.020 This protection does not typically apply to social media posts, which are generally considered
00:11:15.720 political in nature, not part of the legislative process.
00:11:19.780 Attorney Will Chamberlain weighs in here.
00:11:22.120 It's immunity for activities that fall within the sphere of legitimate legislative activity.
00:11:27.920 So that can't include more than just what you say on the floor.
00:11:30.680 You know, it can include committee investigations, but not only here is this just a public statement
00:11:35.120 that he's making with political ramifications, but he's admitted that he doesn't know of
00:11:39.680 any unlawful orders that have been issued that would then be the subject of an investigation
00:11:43.360 of some sort.
00:11:44.200 So I don't think he has any reasonable grounds to claim that this would fall under the protection
00:11:48.540 of the Speech and Debate Clause.
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00:13:15.300 A Campbell Soup Company vice president allegedly secretly recorded making shocking claims about
00:13:23.020 his employer's food quality, in addition to a series of offensive comments about his colleagues
00:13:27.660 and mocking Campbell's customers, too.
00:13:30.620 Former cybersecurity analyst Robert Garza says he captured the hour-plus-long tirade coming
00:13:37.140 from Campbell's VP and chief information security officer Martin Bally in a salary meeting the
00:13:42.780 two had last year.
00:13:43.800 Garza says he was fired just weeks after informing his manager about the comments made by Bally,
00:13:49.900 despite no prior disciplinary record, and he is now suing the company seeking compensation
00:13:54.680 for alleged emotional, reputational, and economic harm, in addition to attorney's fees.
00:14:00.380 After filing the lawsuit last week in Michigan, Garza and his attorney releasing the audio to
00:14:05.540 Detroit's Local 4 News.
00:14:07.560 We have shit for fucking poor people.
00:14:10.520 Who buys our shit? 0.81
00:14:11.800 I don't buy shit out of these products.
00:14:13.700 It's barely anymore.
00:14:14.500 It's so healthy.
00:14:15.440 Now that I know what the fuck is in it, even in Louisiana soup, I look at it, look at me.
00:14:19.680 Pop bioengineered meat.
00:14:22.100 I don't want to eat a piece of chicken that came from a 3D printer, you.
00:14:26.660 The Daily Mail reporting, quote, bioengineered meat, also called cultured, cell-based, or lab-grown
00:14:33.760 meat, is real animal meat, produced by taking a sample of animal cells, cultivating them in a
00:14:39.760 nutrient-rich solution within bioreactors, and then structuring the resulting muscle and fat
00:14:45.920 tissues into a food product.
00:14:50.140 Gross.
00:14:51.460 Campbell's responding to the claim, quote, the chicken meat used in our soups comes from
00:14:56.360 long-trusted, USDA-approved U.S. suppliers and meets our high-quality standards.
00:15:04.580 Is that a denial?
00:15:06.360 In other parts of the recording, Bally allegedly heard referring to Indian colleagues saying, quote,
00:15:11.580 effing Indians don't know an effing thing. 1.00
00:15:13.860 They couldn't think for their effing selves.
00:15:15.920 According to Campbell's, the company was not aware of the recording prior to when it
00:15:19.960 aired on the news, and Bally is now temporarily on leave due to an investigation.
00:15:25.320 Campbell's adding, quote, if the comments were in fact made, they are unacceptable.
00:15:29.500 They do not reflect our values and the culture of our company.
00:15:32.460 We are proud of the food we make, the people who make it, and the high-quality ingredients
00:15:36.280 we use.
00:15:37.460 The comments heard on the recording about our food are not only inaccurate, they are patently
00:15:43.140 absurd.
00:15:43.940 Campbell's also saying Bally, as an IT employee, had nothing to do with making the food.
00:15:49.920 Florida Attorney General James Uthmeyer weighing in on the lawsuit, posting to X, quote,
00:15:54.780 Florida law bans lab-grown meat.
00:15:57.400 Our Consumer Protection Division is launching an investigation and will demand answers from
00:16:02.280 Campbell's.
00:16:02.800 As a record number of Americans prepare to travel for Thanksgiving, the National Weather
00:16:08.600 Service, or NWS, warning an early-season blast of Arctic air is set to stretch across much
00:16:14.920 of the country.
00:16:16.060 Below-normal temperatures expected to begin settling in today, stretching through the end
00:16:20.240 of the month, linked to a disruption in the polar vortex swirling high above the Arctic.
00:16:24.840 The chill expected to impact the Pacific Northwest, northern Rockies, Great Plains, parts of Texas,
00:16:31.160 and the interior Mid-Atlantic.
00:16:33.500 The NWS predicting a snow system will enter into the northern plains this morning, spreading
00:16:38.580 across the upper Midwest through Wednesday, with a potential for heavy snowfall in parts
00:16:43.100 of North Dakota, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and parts of Michigan.
00:16:46.440 The agency warning the heavy snow and gusty winds could bring icy roads and dangerous travel
00:16:51.740 conditions.
00:16:52.800 CNN breaking down the counterintuitive science driving this polar vortex.
00:16:56.960 The polar vortex is about to upend weather patterns across the northern hemisphere, setting
00:17:02.100 the stage for what could be a cold and snowy December.
00:17:05.880 The polar vortex usually acts like a shield that keeps ultra-cold air trapped above the North
00:17:11.660 Pole.
00:17:11.960 But temperatures high in the atmosphere are forecast to dramatically spike, disrupting
00:17:17.440 the polar vortex and reshaping the jet stream that steers high-impact weather events around
00:17:23.060 the globe.
00:17:23.940 It's counterintuitive to think that warming temperatures high above the Arctic could mean
00:17:28.660 wintry weather where we live.
00:17:30.980 But think of it like opening a freezer door, allowing all that frigid air to spill south into
00:17:36.460 areas where people live.
00:17:37.920 The chilly temps arriving as AAA reports a record 82 million Americans expected to hit
00:17:43.400 the road for Thanksgiving, and TSA anticipating more than 17.8 million people set to fly over
00:17:49.260 the holiday, marking the busiest travel period in 15 years.
00:17:53.940 Good luck out there, and bundle up.
00:17:55.760 That'll do it for your AM update.
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