The Megyn Kelly Show - Left's Sports Lies Exposed, Trump's FAFO Portrait, and Why Dems are Losing Black Voters, with Link Lauren and Stephen A. Smith

00:00:00.540 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east.

00:00:11.700 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:14.840 The issue of men and boys and women's sports is back in the news just in time for Pride Month,

00:00:19.580 which is being celebrated by Sesame Street, because nothing says hello and welcome to children like celebrating the trans people.

00:00:28.340 And then there's new reporting about the Algerian male boxer that we brought you extensive reporting on back in August of last year.

00:00:36.900 We're going to do this starting at the top of our second hour when Stephen A. Smith is here.

00:00:41.440 But let me just tell you something. You may remember, we came on camera when this controversy broke before anyone else.

00:00:49.860 Others came to the party, but we were there first saying, this is a male.

00:00:55.240 This is a biologically male boxer who's boxing in women's boxing and pummeling the hell out of women.

00:01:03.100 And publication after publication came after this show, from The Daily Show to Media Matters calling us transphobes and bigots

00:01:13.520 and saying we were wrong on the facts, which is what really gets my goat.

00:01:18.160 You can call me names all day long. It doesn't bother me. I'm used to it.

00:01:20.880 But don't tell me I'm wrong on the facts. Just ask Jake Tapper how that goes.

00:01:25.180 OK, we were not wrong. We were out on a limb because no one else would tell the truth.

00:01:30.480 And we put on the reporter who had seen a main caliph's genetics test, the chromosomal test.

00:01:39.140 He had laid his own eyes on it and we put him on for you and he told you what he saw.

00:01:45.120 And still people disputed our facts, saying we had it wrong.

00:01:51.080 Well, we didn't. Yet again, we've been proven right.

00:01:55.120 And the so-called mainstream has been proven entirely wrong as they spewed allegations of bigotry

00:02:03.020 and having incorrect facts at us.

00:02:07.320 The irony of it, the irony, how wrong they were and how freely they throw around those terms

00:02:14.280 just to shut you up when you are reporting facts.

00:02:17.640 We're going to have a full report laid out in our second hour with the sound and the reminders

00:02:23.560 and we'll name names on the disgusting perpetrators of those attacks, not just against us, but in general,

00:02:30.000 and trying to defend this male boxer who was beating the hell out of other women and stole the gold medal

00:02:37.420 in the Olympic Games. Stole it.

00:02:40.560 It is happening at the Olympics and it's happening in college and it's happening at the high school level.

00:02:49.180 Those are the facts.

00:02:52.020 It was all over the news this past weekend, all over.

00:02:56.300 That runner, I mean, he's not really a runner.

00:02:59.620 He's a high jumper and a long jumper out in California.

00:03:02.560 He won first place in, I can't remember his high jumper, long jump, but he won first place in one of them

00:03:11.180 and they made the actual first place winner, the girl, share the top podium with him.

00:03:16.540 This was their great solution.

00:03:19.040 Let's just kick it off there.

00:03:20.200 I'm joined today, very happy to be joined by Link Lauren.

00:03:23.180 He's the host of Spot On with Link Lauren on the MK Media Podcast Network.

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00:04:46.520 Link, wonderful to have you.

00:04:49.900 This shit pisses me off to no end.

00:04:54.060 I mean, it's at the height of sport, at the Olympic level,

00:04:59.000 all the way down to girls who are still in puberty

00:05:03.480 having to deal with a boy out in California.

00:05:06.220 And it's not just California.

00:05:07.380 It's Washington State.

00:05:08.580 It's actually, we have quite a few examples teed up

00:05:10.480 of these boys running in the girls' track meets

00:05:13.580 and participating in the girls' sports and this ridiculous accommodation

00:05:18.040 by California to try to get out of the thumb

00:05:20.660 that President Trump put down on them last Tuesday

00:05:22.740 by saying, okay, if a male wins the girls' race or event,

00:05:30.260 they're both going to get a first place medal.

00:05:32.480 Everyone's a winner.

00:05:33.560 And they're both going to literally have to stand atop the highest platform.

00:05:37.740 The girls have to share it with a fake girl like she belongs there

00:05:41.960 instead of being there alone as the clear best.

00:05:47.780 No one's saying at a woman's event,

00:05:49.580 they're the best in the world at everything.

00:05:51.040 They're saying amongst women, women who play this sport,

00:05:54.680 they're the best.

00:05:55.760 You know, right now it's Egas Viatek,

00:05:58.280 but Coco Gauff is making her way up or watching the French Open.

00:06:01.400 Like there's only one is the number one girl.

00:06:05.660 And it's a lie what's happening in California.

00:06:07.980 This is a bullshit accommodation,

00:06:09.240 which Gavin Newsom is all too happy with

00:06:11.480 because somehow he thinks this is like the fairness thing

00:06:14.540 that he just couldn't come up with.

00:06:15.720 He thought about it for two minutes,

00:06:16.680 just couldn't come up with anything better.

00:06:18.520 And an attempt to skirt the big hand of big daddy,

00:06:21.860 Trump, who is ready to rain hell down on these guys.

00:06:24.400 What do you make of it?

00:06:25.760 Well, it's funny you brought up Iman Khalif.

00:06:27.880 I just remembered months ago,

00:06:29.600 and that whole situation happened with the boxer.

00:06:32.000 Taylor Lorenz, of all people,

00:06:33.620 direct messaged me on Instagram and said,

00:06:35.860 you should take your post down because you're wrong.

00:06:37.940 That's not a biological man.

00:06:39.560 That's fake information.

00:06:41.020 And I was like, Taylor, are you sure?

00:06:42.900 I don't know.

00:06:43.660 But I was scared of getting canceled.

00:06:45.140 Turns out we were right.

00:06:46.760 And I thought, you know, it walks like a duck,

00:06:48.560 talks like a duck.

00:06:49.380 It looks like a man.

00:06:50.700 And my rule is always, you know,

00:06:52.220 do you have shoulders like a linebacker

00:06:53.740 and an Adam's apple the size of Alabama?

00:06:55.900 You are probably a man.

00:06:57.580 Okay, my eyes do not deceive me.

00:06:59.480 I know a thing or two.

00:07:00.700 So no, that was funny that Taylor Lorenz told me

00:07:02.860 to take my post down about the boxer

00:07:04.880 and that I was wrong and spreading misinformation.

00:07:06.860 And we are always vindicated time and time again.

00:07:11.480 And when it comes to California and Gavin Newsom,

00:07:13.600 does he not remember his little podcast with Charlie Kirk

00:07:16.440 when he was doing his sort of rebranding reinvention tour,

00:07:19.360 which lasted two minutes?

00:07:20.600 And he said it was a fairness issue.

00:07:22.460 He said men should not be in women's sports.

00:07:24.520 And I question Gavin Newsom as a father, right?

00:07:27.020 He has daughters.

00:07:28.040 He has a wife.

00:07:29.020 Do you want your daughter getting beat up on?

00:07:31.100 You wouldn't want your daughter sharing a locker room

00:07:32.980 with a man.

00:07:33.540 These people are full of crap.

00:07:34.780 Gavin Newsom, it's the rules for thee, not for me.

00:07:37.520 There's no way these men want their daughters

00:07:39.600 going through the same thing,

00:07:40.740 but they're so scared of this liberal progressive mob,

00:07:44.140 this minority in their party,

00:07:45.580 that is actually just so loud

00:07:46.940 that they constantly capitulate to them.

00:07:49.420 I think Gavin Newsom, if he wants to run in 2028,

00:07:52.080 he's going to have to move more to the middle.

00:07:54.100 Pete Buttigieg is trying to rebrand.

00:07:55.840 Tim Walls is trying to rebrand.

00:07:57.260 But we will be here holding them to account

00:07:59.280 because we remember how radical these guys are

00:08:01.660 and that they would not protect women.

00:08:04.340 Let that be a lesson to everybody to listen to this show

00:08:06.700 and not to Taylor Lorenz.

00:08:08.900 A lesson nobody needs.

00:08:10.380 Literally nobody listening to that needs that.

00:08:12.660 This needs that.

00:08:13.740 Yeah, she's wrong on everything.

00:08:15.060 I mean, everything she writes

00:08:16.620 is guided by her very strange emotional state

00:08:19.400 as opposed to a commitment to facts.

00:08:22.220 And I will say, look, it's even harder

00:08:23.940 to stick to real facts

00:08:25.280 when everybody's coming down on you,

00:08:27.080 as you are feeling.

00:08:27.700 But those who can do it

00:08:29.760 will establish a name for themselves

00:08:31.340 and credibility in this industry.

00:08:32.860 And those who bend the knee will not.

00:08:34.940 Same thing happened with Tampon Tim.

00:08:37.260 Tampon Tim definitely signed a law

00:08:39.120 saying that girls and boys,

00:08:42.060 all the bathrooms,

00:08:42.900 had to make tampons available

00:08:44.600 in the Minnesota schools.

00:08:46.200 And they tried to deny it.

00:08:47.200 And the Star Tribune,

00:08:48.260 which is a disgustingly far-left

00:08:50.140 partisan hack paper,

00:08:52.240 tried to say we were wrong,

00:08:53.360 and we weren't.

00:08:53.920 We were not wrong.

00:08:55.240 And we showed the audience

00:08:56.780 the videotape of the lawmakers

00:08:58.220 having the debate.

00:08:58.960 The trans lawmaker out there

00:09:00.440 was the biggest evidence

00:09:02.220 I had from my side.

00:09:03.760 This person was all over the debate

00:09:05.140 saying, no, in the boys' rooms too.

00:09:07.260 And I mean business.

00:09:08.900 Anyway, let's go back

00:09:10.380 to what happened in California.

00:09:11.480 So this A.B. Hernandez,

00:09:13.900 who, I'm sorry,

00:09:15.320 I'm sure this is somebody

00:09:17.200 who's very confused,

00:09:18.540 but there's something very strange

00:09:20.160 about this person.

00:09:21.240 He looks like a boy

00:09:23.120 trying to look like a girl.

00:09:25.440 And it wears like

00:09:26.600 almost kabuki makeup.

00:09:28.360 I don't know what's with the kabuki.

00:09:29.720 What's going on

00:09:30.320 with the kabuki makeup?

00:09:31.460 Right, Link?

00:09:32.180 You know what I'm saying?

00:09:32.820 Like it's weirdly clowny.

00:09:33.800 It's like drag queen makeup

00:09:34.480 at the track.

00:09:35.300 Yeah.

00:09:35.680 It's really crazy.

00:09:36.520 It's like super white.

00:09:38.440 Like this is what I joke with Doug

00:09:40.440 that he's trying to psych out

00:09:41.780 his tennis opponents

00:09:42.520 because he never runs in his,

00:09:44.100 rubs in his sunscreen.

00:09:46.020 It's like he's trying to freak

00:09:47.440 his opponents out.

00:09:48.440 Like kabuki.

00:09:49.120 I don't know what's that.

00:09:49.880 Like a gay show.

00:09:50.480 You look whiter than I do.

00:09:52.080 It's a lot.

00:09:52.900 Right, right.

00:09:54.280 So anyway,

00:09:55.260 I don't know what the

00:09:56.200 A.B. Hernandez approach here is,

00:09:58.280 but I do know he's winning.

00:09:59.880 So he was allowed to compete

00:10:01.340 at the States.

00:10:01.960 This is state championships.

00:10:03.860 He won first place

00:10:05.020 in the triple jump,

00:10:06.540 took home gold,

00:10:07.660 finishing with a jump

00:10:08.300 of 42 feet and two inches.

00:10:09.880 The real winner,

00:10:10.560 who was a girl,

00:10:11.340 Kira Hatcher,

00:10:12.520 placed 40 feet,

00:10:14.880 five inches.

00:10:15.460 So two feet behind him.

00:10:16.880 I mean,

00:10:17.080 that's a lot.

00:10:18.160 He beat her by two feet

00:10:20.200 in the,

00:10:21.580 sorry,

00:10:23.880 I'm good.

00:10:24.220 I'm mixing.

00:10:25.160 Okay.

00:10:25.360 In the triple jump,

00:10:26.720 Hernandez jumped 42 feet

00:10:29.180 and two inches,

00:10:29.700 right?

00:10:29.880 And Kira Hatcher,

00:10:30.980 she jumped 40 feet,

00:10:32.900 five inches.

00:10:33.360 So she was two feet behind him.

00:10:35.300 And they were both forced

00:10:36.840 to share the podium.

00:10:37.940 In the high jump,

00:10:39.920 he and two actual girls

00:10:42.080 all hit five feet,

00:10:43.360 seven inches.

00:10:43.860 So those two girls

00:10:45.080 who actually did tie

00:10:46.340 one another for first

00:10:47.340 had to share it

00:10:48.260 with yet a third person,

00:10:49.360 a boy,

00:10:50.640 A.B. Hernandez,

00:10:51.680 who tied them.

00:10:52.840 And A.B. Hernandez

00:10:53.760 took second place

00:10:54.800 in the long jump.

00:10:56.320 An actual girl

00:10:57.220 did finish ahead of him.

00:10:59.220 Her name was Lauren Webster.

00:11:00.940 She was the only female

00:11:01.860 to finish ahead of Hernandez

00:11:02.900 in any competition

00:11:03.920 in which the trans athlete

00:11:05.680 competed this past weekend.

00:11:07.360 She was the only one.

00:11:09.760 And he shared the podium

00:11:12.780 with the second place winner,

00:11:15.120 Brooke White,

00:11:16.080 who didn't get to have

00:11:16.760 second place on her own

00:11:17.720 but had to share it with him.

00:11:19.560 So he,

00:11:20.200 ahead of Saturday's competition,

00:11:21.340 was caught on camera

00:11:22.060 by NBC4 in Los Angeles

00:11:23.820 talking about how

00:11:25.120 there was this rule change

00:11:26.260 where he,

00:11:27.720 if he won,

00:11:28.180 was going to have to share

00:11:28.840 the podium.

00:11:29.440 And here's what he said.

00:11:31.500 I'm just nervous right now,

00:11:32.660 you know,

00:11:33.120 state finals,

00:11:34.080 back here again.

00:11:35.960 Just like,

00:11:37.400 trying not to get in my head

00:11:38.720 and just relax.

00:11:39.840 But it's a little harder

00:11:41.300 this year.

00:11:41.760 They should have just

00:11:42.760 left it alone this year

00:11:44.060 and try and fix it next year.

00:11:47.340 I see.

00:11:48.260 He should have been allowed

00:11:49.220 to win everything.

00:11:50.340 That's the bottom line, Link.

00:11:52.460 Well, I'm happy to see

00:11:53.820 more and more girls revolting.

00:11:55.340 I saw a video of girls

00:11:56.280 walking away.

00:11:57.120 I think they're going to start

00:11:58.260 fighting back very loudly

00:12:00.120 because they have people

00:12:00.980 like us in their corner.

00:12:02.120 They have the internet

00:12:02.680 in their corner.

00:12:03.620 They are on the 80%

00:12:04.860 of this 80-20 issue.

00:12:06.260 So I'm happy to see

00:12:07.140 these high school girls.

00:12:08.300 They're going to start

00:12:09.140 pushing back,

00:12:09.740 and it's going to become

00:12:10.580 more aggressive.

00:12:11.360 And I will be right there

00:12:12.120 with them cheering them on.

00:12:13.620 But what's the hypocrisy

00:12:14.720 that we're seeing right now

00:12:15.700 is that Gavin Newsom

00:12:16.960 and all these leftists,

00:12:17.860 they're about DEI,

00:12:19.200 feminism,

00:12:19.940 protecting women,

00:12:20.940 women supporting women.

00:12:22.120 But then they're fine

00:12:23.040 with girls getting beat up,

00:12:24.600 losing out on gold medals

00:12:25.600 and scholarships.

00:12:26.780 And also,

00:12:27.520 there are girls

00:12:27.980 across the country

00:12:28.660 who might not be in California.

00:12:29.780 They might not be

00:12:30.480 in a big city.

00:12:31.320 And for them,

00:12:32.160 winning that medal

00:12:32.860 is the scholarship

00:12:33.660 to get out of their small town

00:12:34.960 and to go off to college

00:12:36.060 and to expand their worldview.

00:12:37.940 And when they're losing

00:12:38.620 out to men,

00:12:39.820 they're stripping them

00:12:40.720 of their future

00:12:41.400 that they've worked so hard

00:12:42.380 for getting up at 4 a.m.

00:12:43.680 every single day.

00:12:44.940 And then selfishly,

00:12:45.980 I don't know anything

00:12:47.040 about sports.

00:12:47.840 And every time a man

00:12:48.840 is in a sports competition

00:12:50.040 stealing it from a woman,

00:12:51.240 I have to do copious

00:12:52.160 amounts of research.

00:12:53.120 I'm like,

00:12:53.460 what is the CIF,

00:12:55.000 long jump,

00:12:55.700 high jump?

00:12:56.160 I don't know

00:12:56.660 what all this is.

00:12:57.620 So if they could stop

00:12:58.360 putting men and women's sports

00:12:59.480 because I'm having to learn

00:13:00.720 all about sports

00:13:01.880 when I know nothing,

00:13:02.840 okay?

00:13:03.240 Can you please stop?

00:13:04.020 Just having to learn

00:13:04.800 that sports takes a lot.

00:13:06.480 Never try to keep track

00:13:08.020 who's female,

00:13:08.740 who's male,

00:13:09.560 or in the Olympic boxer,

00:13:11.040 you know,

00:13:11.420 who's got which chromosomes

00:13:12.580 exactly and what happened

00:13:13.840 to them.

00:13:14.880 I have a packet in front of me

00:13:16.580 in preparation for today.

00:13:18.380 This all happened

00:13:19.340 over the past weekend.

00:13:20.220 We had examples of this

00:13:21.280 in California,

00:13:22.440 in Washington State,

00:13:23.800 in Oregon,

00:13:25.240 in Minnesota.

00:13:26.500 I could go on.

00:13:27.360 I mean,

00:13:27.900 it's happening

00:13:28.340 in state after state

00:13:29.440 after state.

00:13:30.160 Again,

00:13:30.540 there was a teacher

00:13:31.180 at my daughter's school

00:13:32.120 who just told her

00:13:33.180 two weeks ago

00:13:33.980 that there are only

00:13:35.160 10 of these trans athletes

00:13:37.040 participating in girls' sports.

00:13:38.540 It's a lie.

00:13:39.660 It's not true.

00:13:41.180 It's happening

00:13:41.840 every week

00:13:43.200 in every school

00:13:44.440 in practically every city

00:13:46.040 across the country.

00:13:46.760 Now,

00:13:47.340 I wanted to spend

00:13:48.240 one minute

00:13:48.740 on the messaging

00:13:49.860 around this A.B. Hernandez

00:13:51.040 because his mother

00:13:52.940 came out

00:13:54.120 and, of course,

00:13:55.420 cloaks her son in glory,

00:13:56.780 doesn't acknowledge

00:13:57.420 that he's cheating.

00:13:58.720 He's cheating.

00:13:59.280 He's got

00:13:59.760 a male testosterone

00:14:01.140 advantage

00:14:01.900 and he's got

00:14:02.600 male limbs advantage

00:14:04.000 and the jumping ability

00:14:05.720 and the height ability

00:14:06.560 and all the advantages

00:14:07.400 that your average male

00:14:08.200 has over the average female.

00:14:10.380 So she gives an interview

00:14:11.140 the same...

00:14:12.280 I would still lose.

00:14:14.900 Every case.

00:14:16.260 She gives an interview

00:14:17.240 to that same NBC affiliate

00:14:18.580 and every single trope

00:14:20.380 that the trans community

00:14:21.220 offers up to justify this

00:14:22.820 was offered here.

00:14:23.660 Listen.

00:14:23.840 When you see

00:14:26.100 how happy

00:14:26.800 this kid is

00:14:28.640 being herself,

00:14:29.900 you know,

00:14:30.200 the first time

00:14:30.700 I saw her come out

00:14:31.760 dressed as a girl

00:14:33.200 that she didn't have

00:14:34.000 to hide it from me,

00:14:35.440 I saw it in her face

00:14:36.620 so I was like,

00:14:37.820 this is it.

00:14:38.900 This is what she wants.

00:14:39.920 I'm going to support it.

00:14:41.200 Behind A.B.'s

00:14:41.940 every move

00:14:42.700 is her mother,

00:14:43.660 Nereida,

00:14:44.160 who has been watching

00:14:45.060 from the crowd

00:14:45.800 and protecting

00:14:46.420 her 16-year-old daughter

00:14:47.640 from nearby protesters

00:14:49.140 both on the ground

00:14:50.460 and in the sky.

00:14:51.660 I'm not losing my child

00:14:53.200 because of my stubbornness

00:14:55.120 and for me being

00:14:56.100 close-minded.

00:14:57.520 Like,

00:14:58.120 I'd rather embrace

00:14:59.760 our times together

00:15:01.000 even if it's been

00:15:01.840 this difficult

00:15:02.540 than going to a cemetery

00:15:04.440 and crying

00:15:05.500 because I couldn't

00:15:07.040 accept something.

00:15:09.060 So everyone uses

00:15:10.400 the female pronouns.

00:15:11.620 This is how you lose

00:15:12.320 the argument.

00:15:12.860 NBC saying

00:15:14.460 she's protecting

00:15:15.580 her daughter

00:15:16.260 who,

00:15:17.660 if you,

00:15:18.760 imagine how confused

00:15:19.780 the audience is out there.

00:15:21.320 Why is this all this

00:15:22.380 hubbub

00:15:22.840 about a girl

00:15:24.060 running in the girls' events,

00:15:25.980 about her daughter

00:15:26.920 participating in girls' sports,

00:15:28.960 and then just the added

00:15:30.180 cherry on top

00:15:31.040 is she's going to

00:15:32.500 commit suicide

00:15:33.120 if we don't let her do this.

00:15:34.500 All of you

00:15:35.320 are trying to make

00:15:36.120 my daughter

00:15:36.660 kill herself

00:15:37.700 by standing up

00:15:39.300 for fairness

00:15:39.700 and safety

00:15:40.500 in girls' sports.

00:15:41.960 Well,

00:15:42.400 that's what the medical

00:15:43.120 lobby does.

00:15:43.840 There are these sick

00:15:44.420 doctors who tell

00:15:45.280 the parents of young kids,

00:15:46.740 you know,

00:15:46.920 some of them are

00:15:47.420 single digits,

00:15:48.180 they're 12,

00:15:48.580 13,

00:15:48.940 14,

00:15:49.400 if you don't buy

00:15:50.280 into your kids'

00:15:51.160 gender dysphoria

00:15:51.860 and put them

00:15:52.500 on the cross-sex hormones

00:15:53.640 and go through that process,

00:15:55.000 they could take

00:15:55.580 their own life.

00:15:56.160 That's kind of the go-to

00:15:57.220 and we've seen it

00:15:57.780 time and time again.

00:15:59.920 Honestly,

00:16:00.420 I think puberty

00:16:01.000 is probably the best

00:16:02.040 healer or panacea

00:16:03.620 for gender dysphoria.

00:16:05.260 Let those hormones

00:16:05.960 come in,

00:16:06.740 go through puberty,

00:16:07.500 and if you're 18,

00:16:08.760 19,

00:16:09.140 20,

00:16:09.420 and you still

00:16:10.000 really feel like

00:16:10.900 you're trans,

00:16:11.660 then you're an adult,

00:16:12.540 go make that decision.

00:16:13.740 But in this case

00:16:14.380 with the mother,

00:16:15.080 I feel like

00:16:15.580 if the child

00:16:16.140 is underage

00:16:16.840 and the mom

00:16:17.260 is pushing the kid

00:16:18.000 to transition,

00:16:18.940 the kid should probably

00:16:19.720 be taken from you.

00:16:20.680 It's sort of the opposite

00:16:21.500 of the Tim Walls model.

00:16:22.740 If you're pushing

00:16:23.440 your kid to transition

00:16:24.460 and be injected

00:16:25.100 with hormones,

00:16:25.900 I question you

00:16:26.640 as a parent,

00:16:27.140 and that's when I think

00:16:27.900 the government

00:16:28.320 should step in

00:16:28.960 and protect these children

00:16:29.940 because there are

00:16:30.900 sick parents

00:16:31.520 who are injecting

00:16:32.340 their kids

00:16:32.720 with hormones.

00:16:33.520 There are countless

00:16:34.320 teenage girls

00:16:35.040 getting mastectomies.

00:16:36.040 I don't care

00:16:36.480 what the liberals

00:16:36.940 say in my comments.

00:16:38.000 You can look up

00:16:38.560 the statistics.

00:16:39.460 There's no reason

00:16:40.180 16-year-old girls

00:16:41.080 should be getting

00:16:41.540 their breasts cut off

00:16:42.380 in the name

00:16:43.060 of gender dysphoria.

00:16:43.860 So in this case,

00:16:44.960 A.B. Hernandez,

00:16:45.760 you are a victim

00:16:46.740 and I feel sorry for you

00:16:48.020 and have empathy for you

00:16:49.120 and California

00:16:49.880 should step in

00:16:50.580 because your mom

00:16:51.260 is buying into

00:16:52.000 this hysteria as well

00:16:53.340 and listening to the doctors

00:16:54.620 who are probably

00:16:55.400 liberal,

00:16:55.960 progressive,

00:16:56.540 socialist,

00:16:57.180 and pushing trans

00:16:58.040 every single day.

00:16:59.420 Yes.

00:17:00.160 And the news media

00:17:01.760 is part of the problem.

00:17:03.740 I worked at NBC.

00:17:05.300 I was part of the problem

00:17:06.620 while there.

00:17:07.560 I've talked to my audience

00:17:08.640 about this.

00:17:09.640 It was early on

00:17:10.500 in this whole thing,

00:17:11.320 but it was,

00:17:12.000 you know,

00:17:12.580 frankly,

00:17:13.080 it was late enough

00:17:13.620 that I should have

00:17:14.080 known better,

00:17:14.680 but the whole thing

00:17:15.540 hadn't exploded

00:17:16.220 in the way it has

00:17:17.080 and this was back

00:17:18.120 in 2018.

00:17:20.460 However,

00:17:21.020 NBC has learned nothing.

00:17:22.360 They've learned nothing

00:17:23.360 from the explosion

00:17:24.180 of this ideology

00:17:24.840 amongst children

00:17:25.560 and the detransitioners

00:17:26.560 and their testimonials

00:17:27.380 and the data we now have

00:17:28.820 on what puberty blockers

00:17:30.680 into cross-sex hormones

00:17:31.800 does to a young girl's

00:17:33.360 or boy's fertility

00:17:34.320 and sexual function.

00:17:36.720 Nothing.

00:17:37.280 They've paid zero attention.

00:17:38.900 It's all about

00:17:39.420 you have to affirm

00:17:40.120 or you're a bigot

00:17:40.820 and they refuse

00:17:42.180 to use biologically

00:17:45.140 based language,

00:17:47.160 pronouns,

00:17:47.860 and words

00:17:48.400 like daughter

00:17:49.120 should not have been

00:17:50.040 in that NBC News piece

00:17:51.100 and there was a great example

00:17:53.020 of fighting back

00:17:54.060 against this

00:17:54.660 on CNN over the weekend.

00:17:56.340 It happened on Friday.

00:17:57.600 It circulated on X

00:17:58.640 over the weekend.

00:17:59.640 It was attorney

00:18:00.820 Julie Hamill

00:18:01.720 who confronted

00:18:02.860 far-left activist

00:18:04.880 Brianna Keillor

00:18:05.940 who poses

00:18:06.520 as a neutral news anchor

00:18:08.220 but is really

00:18:09.060 just a partisan hack

00:18:10.340 and Julie Hamill

00:18:13.300 in like

00:18:13.820 sort of stone-cold fashion

00:18:16.180 just called out

00:18:18.020 Brianna Keillor's

00:18:19.360 nonsense

00:18:20.220 and a factual

00:18:22.000 discussions.

00:18:23.340 Here's a clip.

00:18:25.620 What would make

00:18:26.820 this fair

00:18:27.800 for her

00:18:30.000 to compete

00:18:30.680 for those

00:18:31.680 who are competing

00:18:32.340 against her?

00:18:33.120 What would that

00:18:34.020 kind of structure

00:18:35.700 in competition

00:18:37.580 look like?

00:18:40.320 Who is her?

00:18:42.460 A.B.

00:18:43.040 A.B.

00:18:45.960 Okay.

00:18:46.560 A.B.

00:18:46.860 Hernandez

00:18:47.200 is a male

00:18:47.920 who identifies

00:18:48.600 as a female.

00:18:50.180 What would be fair

00:18:51.440 is to have

00:18:52.600 Hernandez

00:18:53.160 competing

00:18:53.800 in the male category.

00:18:55.260 It is not fair

00:18:56.060 to the females

00:18:56.960 competing

00:18:57.560 to have to compete

00:18:58.960 with a male.

00:19:02.060 That's how it's done.

00:19:04.120 Yes.

00:19:05.000 That's so us too.

00:19:07.080 You know what's funny

00:19:07.960 is I actually got

00:19:08.660 an email I'm remembering

00:19:09.620 now from Media Matters.

00:19:11.240 Apparently they're upset

00:19:12.320 because last time

00:19:13.200 I was on your show

00:19:13.920 we referred to

00:19:14.660 Dylan Mulvaney

00:19:15.320 as a he

00:19:15.940 or something

00:19:16.780 and so they're mad

00:19:17.600 at me

00:19:17.980 like Lauren

00:19:18.680 and Megan Kelly.

00:19:19.480 Yeah, something like that.

00:19:20.860 And so why are we

00:19:21.820 getting raked over the coals

00:19:22.940 for using biological pronouns?

00:19:24.720 Also, I'm going to say it

00:19:25.980 and I get attacked

00:19:26.940 for saying it.

00:19:27.860 If you're a man

00:19:28.660 and you feel like

00:19:29.460 you should become a woman

00:19:30.360 you have to really sit

00:19:31.860 and reflect and think

00:19:32.860 am I going to make

00:19:33.960 a pretty girl?

00:19:35.620 Some of these guys

00:19:36.440 who transition

00:19:37.100 you got to be

00:19:38.040 metacognitive.

00:19:38.940 You know, we all know

00:19:39.520 what we're good at

00:19:40.140 and what we're not.

00:19:40.820 I know I'm not a six foot two athlete.

00:19:42.540 Communication is my skill.

00:19:43.820 That is going to help you

00:19:44.860 move into adulthood

00:19:45.620 figuring out who you are

00:19:46.820 and what you're good at.

00:19:47.760 So some of these men

00:19:48.500 who are like

00:19:48.860 you know what

00:19:49.460 even though I've got shoulders

00:19:50.580 like a linebacker

00:19:51.480 and an Adam's apple

00:19:52.440 the size of Alabama

00:19:53.280 I'm going to transition

00:19:54.420 and put on a dress and heels.

00:19:55.780 Some of you

00:19:56.400 aren't meant to become women.

00:19:58.200 I know Media Matters

00:19:59.260 is going to shit themselves

00:20:00.160 over that comment

00:20:01.000 but it's true.

00:20:01.900 You're not meant to be women.

00:20:03.260 It's just not the case.

00:20:04.900 No, it's like a line

00:20:06.800 that was once dropped

00:20:08.380 on my husband

00:20:08.860 as they were talking

00:20:09.540 about this trans person

00:20:11.460 who is a man

00:20:12.300 trying to look like a female

00:20:13.540 and this person said

00:20:15.280 to my husband

00:20:15.800 ugly as a man

00:20:18.100 outrageous as a woman.

00:20:21.420 It doesn't tend to like

00:20:23.160 improve your appearance

00:20:24.820 to go from an unattractive man

00:20:26.460 into a fake woman.

00:20:27.760 Like that guy

00:20:28.400 who keeps running around

00:20:29.200 to all the restaurants

00:20:29.940 getting fake mad

00:20:31.540 that they're misgendering him.

00:20:33.020 I mean he looks like

00:20:33.880 a professional wrestler

00:20:35.200 and he shows up

00:20:36.360 with this huge Adam's apple

00:20:37.420 as you point out

00:20:38.040 and his deep voice

00:20:38.880 and he's like

00:20:39.460 it's man!

00:20:40.380 It's man!

00:20:41.400 Okay, so back to the track

00:20:42.820 and field.

00:20:43.080 Billy Contino, yes.

00:20:44.960 Yeah, is that who it is?

00:20:45.760 Okay, so back to the track

00:20:47.800 and field.

00:20:48.180 Now moving on

00:20:48.960 from California

00:20:49.880 to Washington State,

00:20:52.240 there is for the second year

00:20:53.800 in a row

00:20:54.240 someone named

00:20:55.020 Logan Veronica Garcia.

00:20:58.500 Okay.

00:20:59.300 Mm-hmm.

00:21:00.200 Veronica, there's something about it.

00:21:02.260 Who won the girls

00:21:03.420 400 meter race.

00:21:05.460 This Garcia is 17 years old

00:21:07.280 and runs for

00:21:07.880 East Valley High School.

00:21:09.000 his time

00:21:10.980 put him ahead

00:21:11.620 of the actual

00:21:13.140 first place girl

00:21:14.200 Lauren Matthew

00:21:15.460 by nearly a full second

00:21:17.980 and he,

00:21:20.080 Veronica Garcia,

00:21:22.020 beat his time

00:21:22.820 from last year's

00:21:23.620 state final

00:21:24.140 by .05 seconds.

00:21:25.780 So he's been doing this

00:21:26.780 for a couple of years now.

00:21:28.540 Oh yay.

00:21:30.500 He, let's see,

00:21:32.280 when he was announced

00:21:33.180 as the winner,

00:21:34.720 boos rang out

00:21:36.360 and the audience

00:21:37.400 cheered for Lauren Matthews

00:21:39.340 who they knew,

00:21:40.500 Matthew,

00:21:41.120 who they knew

00:21:41.780 was the rightful winner.

00:21:43.300 Let's watch

00:21:43.840 a bit of that here.

00:21:46.280 Second place,

00:21:47.440 Lauren Matthews.

00:21:51.880 And first place,

00:21:53.980 their 2025 winner

00:21:55.380 in a time of 55.70

00:21:58.620 from East Valley of Spokane,

00:22:01.060 Veronica Garcia.

00:22:02.460 Yeah.

00:22:02.860 Yeah.

00:22:03.460 Yeah.

00:22:03.960 Yeah.

00:22:04.460 Yeah.

00:22:04.520 Yeah.

00:22:04.960 Yeah.

00:22:05.460 Yeah.

00:22:05.960 Yeah.

00:22:06.460 Yeah.

00:22:06.520 Yeah.

00:22:07.820 Wow.

00:22:10.100 Your girls,

00:22:11.800 400 meter.

00:22:13.980 That's amazing,

00:22:15.220 Link.

00:22:15.480 In Washington state,

00:22:17.620 this isn't Texas.

00:22:18.960 This is not Alabama.

00:22:20.660 This is pretty blue

00:22:22.100 and they've had it.

00:22:24.900 No,

00:22:25.660 everyone has had it

00:22:26.820 and I know we keep saying

00:22:27.760 it's an 80-20 issue

00:22:28.840 but I know President Trump

00:22:29.760 is like,

00:22:30.160 it's really a 95-5 issue.

00:22:32.240 It's a 99-1 issue.

00:22:33.780 I think that's right.

00:22:33.940 It's just this small radical mob

00:22:36.740 that's constantly being pushed on us

00:22:38.460 and I really feel like

00:22:39.640 from the far left,

00:22:40.460 I'm not going to lump everybody

00:22:42.320 on the left into this category.

00:22:43.560 They're incredible Democrats

00:22:44.620 who may be watching this

00:22:45.620 but there seems to be

00:22:46.620 this sort of systemic erasure

00:22:48.140 of the nuclear family,

00:22:50.140 of, you know,

00:22:50.740 family values,

00:22:52.020 of women's rights,

00:22:53.220 women's spaces

00:22:53.920 and this was supposed to be

00:22:54.800 the party of women's rights

00:22:56.000 and now they're perfectly fine

00:22:57.280 with men coming in

00:22:58.080 and stealing all their gold medals

00:22:59.240 and trophies.

00:22:59.920 So I am glad people are booing.

00:23:01.600 They need to get more aggressive

00:23:02.980 and get out there

00:23:03.860 and fight back

00:23:04.520 and fight back

00:23:05.200 and fight back.

00:23:06.100 I also think

00:23:06.880 the Democrats

00:23:07.400 are just going to continue losing

00:23:08.760 if they come down

00:23:09.820 on the side

00:23:10.460 of the 20%

00:23:11.440 of these 80-20 issues

00:23:12.600 and all of the insanity.

00:23:14.840 Okay,

00:23:15.320 one more for you here.

00:23:17.180 Oregon.

00:23:18.180 In Oregon,

00:23:19.100 I mean,

00:23:19.300 remember,

00:23:19.640 this teacher at my school

00:23:21.120 said it's only having 10,

00:23:22.800 just 10.

00:23:23.580 Oh, really?

00:23:24.020 I mean,

00:23:24.220 like,

00:23:24.560 this is,

00:23:25.120 we're going through multiple

00:23:25.980 just this past weekend,

00:23:27.240 just in a couple of states.

00:23:28.440 Never mind.

00:23:28.780 I think he was referring

00:23:30.400 to the NCAA,

00:23:31.760 which,

00:23:32.140 whose president said,

00:23:33.060 I'm only aware of 10

00:23:34.440 who are actively competing

00:23:36.140 right now,

00:23:36.620 which is,

00:23:37.360 yeah,

00:23:37.580 exactly.

00:23:38.300 It's a trans-demic,

00:23:39.660 which we dismantled anyway.

00:23:42.480 That claimed about only 10

00:23:43.380 at the NCAA level as well.

00:23:44.860 Okay,

00:23:45.080 so this is in Oregon.

00:23:46.840 Female athletes there

00:23:48.380 were in the state championship

00:23:50.400 for track and field

00:23:51.380 and the video obtained

00:23:53.940 by Fox News Digital

00:23:54.760 shows two high school seniors,

00:23:57.160 Reese Eckerd of Sherwood High School

00:23:59.040 and Alexa Anderson

00:24:00.760 of Tigard High School

00:24:02.620 stepped down

00:24:04.400 from their respective spots

00:24:06.180 on the podium

00:24:06.840 next to the trans athlete

00:24:09.780 and faced the other way.

00:24:12.040 Anderson had placed third,

00:24:13.580 Eckerd had placed fourth.

00:24:15.280 The trans athlete there

00:24:16.420 had actually come in fifth,

00:24:18.020 but these two girls

00:24:19.640 were sick of it.

00:24:20.800 They understood

00:24:21.300 that there should be

00:24:22.380 a rightful girl

00:24:23.460 in the fifth place spot

00:24:25.240 and they were not having it.

00:24:27.300 They did not forget

00:24:28.040 the girls

00:24:28.560 who got screwed over

00:24:29.860 by this boy

00:24:30.920 pretending here they were.

00:24:31.880 They hopped down,

00:24:33.660 they turned their backs

00:24:34.780 and then an official

00:24:37.600 confronted them

00:24:38.680 and gestured for them

00:24:39.620 to move away.

00:24:41.080 They were then seen

00:24:41.640 walking away,

00:24:42.320 standing off to the side.

00:24:43.620 The one who came in fifth

00:24:45.140 taking the rightful spot

00:24:46.420 of an actual girl

00:24:47.860 goes by Leah Rose.

00:24:49.460 His real name is Zachary

00:24:50.840 and he's a boy

00:24:52.020 and he competed as a boy

00:24:53.340 in 2023 and 2024.

00:24:56.980 And you know this guy

00:24:58.400 was middling

00:24:59.120 and probably stunk,

00:25:01.720 but he wanted to compete

00:25:05.280 and do better

00:25:05.720 and went over to the girls

00:25:06.520 and was allowed

00:25:06.980 to do it immediately.

00:25:08.500 These two girls

00:25:09.320 who stepped down

00:25:10.220 from the podium

00:25:10.620 said we didn't do it

00:25:11.320 out of hate.

00:25:11.800 We did it because

00:25:12.300 someone has to say

00:25:13.020 this isn't right.

00:25:14.080 In order to protect

00:25:14.980 the integrity

00:25:15.520 and fairness of girls sports,

00:25:17.100 we must stand up

00:25:18.380 for what is right.

00:25:20.700 And just as an aside,

00:25:21.840 back to the Washington State

00:25:24.120 example that we just went through

00:25:26.120 and this Garcia,

00:25:28.540 Veronica,

00:25:29.700 this person

00:25:30.600 said last year

00:25:33.480 in June

00:25:34.200 as he won

00:25:35.000 in that particular competition,

00:25:38.160 said he was somewhat hurt

00:25:40.100 that his peers

00:25:41.960 did not offer him

00:25:43.220 congratulations

00:25:43.980 for his big win.

00:25:45.840 Quote,

00:25:46.300 I guess maybe I expected

00:25:47.660 sportsmanship

00:25:48.580 because I was cheering

00:25:50.160 the rest of them on

00:25:51.140 when they were called,

00:25:52.160 so I expected that

00:25:53.760 to get reciprocated,

00:25:55.260 but I didn't get it.

00:25:56.920 So he shocked,

00:25:58.440 shocked, Link,

00:25:59.640 that the girls,

00:26:01.220 like as we also saw

00:26:02.800 there in Oregon,

00:26:03.660 are not more excited

00:26:06.320 to lose their medals

00:26:07.820 and their first place spots

00:26:09.180 to these boys.

00:26:10.140 Well, it's interesting.

00:26:12.120 None of these guys

00:26:12.920 could hack it

00:26:13.700 in the men's category.

00:26:14.940 So they have to come over

00:26:15.960 and hijack

00:26:16.920 the women's category.

00:26:17.920 And what's also interesting

00:26:18.780 is they just want

00:26:20.140 to erase

00:26:20.820 these women's spaces.

00:26:22.360 And I know I keep saying it

00:26:23.440 time and time again,

00:26:24.440 but that's really

00:26:24.960 what's happening.

00:26:26.000 And what used to be

00:26:27.000 the LGBT movement

00:26:27.980 was we want equal rights.

00:26:29.760 We want equal treatment.

00:26:31.240 Well, now the trans movement

00:26:32.380 is we want special treatment.

00:26:34.340 We want to be able

00:26:34.900 to do whatever we want,

00:26:36.260 whenever we want.

00:26:37.160 If we identify as a guy

00:26:38.400 on a Monday,

00:26:38.920 we're going to identify

00:26:39.720 as a girl on a Tuesday

00:26:40.760 and you just have to accept that.

00:26:42.480 Call us the right pronouns.

00:26:43.760 Let us into your locker rooms.

00:26:45.100 Let us on to your sports teams.

00:26:46.600 What happened to equal rights?

00:26:48.360 It's like you give them an inch,

00:26:49.620 they're going to want 10.

00:26:50.660 You know what I'm saying?

00:26:51.360 That's the LGBT community.

00:26:52.880 They're going to want more

00:26:53.680 and more and more.

00:26:55.080 And the whole gay rights movement

00:26:56.200 for decades was

00:26:57.040 we want gay marriage.

00:26:58.580 Well, 10 years ago this summer,

00:27:00.000 you got the Obergefell

00:27:00.960 Supreme Court decision.

00:27:02.260 You got gay marriage.

00:27:03.300 But then all these non-profits

00:27:04.840 like Human Rights Campaign

00:27:06.040 and hundreds of non-profits

00:27:07.320 across the country,

00:27:08.100 they needed a new grift

00:27:09.520 to continue fundraising

00:27:10.740 because their whole fundraising plan

00:27:12.300 was we need to fight

00:27:13.380 to get gay rights.

00:27:14.460 Well, now it's trans rights.

00:27:15.980 These are not rights, okay?

00:27:17.780 There are no rights

00:27:18.560 in this country

00:27:19.080 trans people do not have.

00:27:20.560 They say,

00:27:21.180 Trump is transphobic.

00:27:22.360 He's taking trans rights away.

00:27:23.900 You did not lose any rights

00:27:25.220 on November 5th,

00:27:26.320 January 20th

00:27:27.260 at the inauguration.

00:27:28.380 We are only saying

00:27:29.440 you can't push trans onto kids.

00:27:31.320 You can't just come

00:27:32.100 into women's sports.

00:27:33.140 You can't go into

00:27:34.160 girls' bathrooms

00:27:34.860 and locker rooms.

00:27:35.480 You can't expose yourself.

00:27:36.480 If you want to be

00:27:37.080 a normal trans adult,

00:27:38.540 whatever floats your boat

00:27:39.460 and coats your throat,

00:27:40.340 come one,

00:27:40.680 come all to the Halloween ball,

00:27:42.100 do what you want to do.

00:27:43.140 But you can't come

00:27:44.000 into women's spaces

00:27:44.960 and you guys constantly

00:27:46.120 want special treatment

00:27:47.360 and we're sick of it.

00:27:48.460 That's what it is.

00:27:50.360 That's exactly right.

00:27:51.560 And, you know,

00:27:52.200 I mean, for the record,

00:27:52.940 I've said this before,

00:27:53.560 but I really,

00:27:54.260 I used to be much more

00:27:55.820 of the mind of like,

00:27:57.060 do you do you

00:27:57.640 if that's what you,

00:27:58.140 I'm really not.

00:27:59.160 I really kind of had,

00:28:00.120 like, I think it's

00:28:00.720 very kind of creepy.

00:28:01.660 I don't want to see

00:28:02.500 a man dressed as a woman.

00:28:03.420 I'm not a dress.

00:28:04.160 I'm not your fucking costume.

00:28:05.460 I'm not.

00:28:06.100 Like, if you've got,

00:28:07.700 no, but I'm just saying,

00:28:08.420 like, there is like

00:28:09.240 a general attitude

00:28:10.880 amongst everybody.

00:28:12.000 Not, not,

00:28:12.920 I'm not blaming this on you,

00:28:13.740 but like the thing to say

00:28:15.500 is I'm fine.

00:28:17.060 Like, if you want,

00:28:17.660 whatever you do

00:28:18.120 in your own private world

00:28:19.060 is your business.

00:28:19.780 Like adults,

00:28:20.480 go ahead if you want

00:28:21.180 to be trans.

00:28:22.080 I really,

00:28:22.900 I've got to be honest.

00:28:23.760 I actually do have

00:28:24.520 a problem with it.

00:28:25.380 I am not your costume.

00:28:27.340 To me,

00:28:27.980 it's the same thing

00:28:28.740 as black people

00:28:29.580 who don't want people

00:28:30.660 wearing blackface.

00:28:31.920 I, I'm not a costume.

00:28:34.120 Women are not a costume.

00:28:35.640 We're not a dress.

00:28:37.000 You can't embody

00:28:38.040 what it is

00:28:38.740 and means to be a woman

00:28:39.880 by pulling a Dylan Mulvaney

00:28:42.160 and prancing around

00:28:43.500 like some overly

00:28:44.980 femme-bot version

00:28:46.700 of women

00:28:47.740 that a man dreamed up.

00:28:49.500 It's,

00:28:49.700 it's insulting.

00:28:50.920 It's demeaning

00:28:52.000 and it makes me

00:28:53.280 very uncomfortable.

00:28:53.880 And the truth is

00:28:54.960 the larger and weirder

00:28:56.320 the man,

00:28:56.940 the more uncomfortable.

00:28:57.600 That's the honest truth.

00:28:58.920 Right now,

00:29:00.720 I was just thinking

00:29:01.240 of some of the trans

00:29:02.120 conservatives out there

00:29:03.000 who are like,

00:29:03.640 we don't care

00:29:04.160 if you call us

00:29:04.680 the wrong pronoun.

00:29:05.540 We'll do our own thing.

00:29:06.560 We just want to blend in

00:29:07.520 and be adults.

00:29:08.300 You guys,

00:29:08.780 I'm fine with.

00:29:09.340 But a majority of you

00:29:10.240 like Dylan Mulvaney,

00:29:11.440 you came up on the internet

00:29:12.800 making a mockery

00:29:13.960 of the female experience.

00:29:15.260 Dylan Mulvaney went viral

00:29:16.360 because he was like,

00:29:17.160 oh, I chipped a nail.

00:29:18.360 I'm a woman now.

00:29:19.360 I wrote an angry email.

00:29:20.720 I know what it's like

00:29:21.420 to be a woman.

00:29:22.260 I can tell you

00:29:22.820 that is certainly

00:29:23.560 not the case.

00:29:24.420 I work with women

00:29:25.040 every single day,

00:29:25.860 was raised by a strong woman.

00:29:27.380 You're an incredibly strong woman

00:29:28.580 I look up to.

00:29:29.320 That is not what it means

00:29:30.660 to be a woman.

00:29:31.240 So there are folks

00:29:31.900 like Dylan Mulvaney

00:29:32.560 who are making a mockery

00:29:33.760 of the female experience.

00:29:34.840 And it's unfortunate

00:29:35.720 that those are the ones

00:29:36.680 with millions of followers

00:29:37.720 and these huge platforms.

00:29:39.440 Yeah,

00:29:39.640 and getting like endorsement deal

00:29:40.900 after endorsement deal.

00:29:41.920 No,

00:29:42.140 I had somebody,

00:29:43.900 I don't want to get specific

00:29:45.200 because I don't mean

00:29:46.600 this person ill will,

00:29:47.600 but this person was a,

00:29:48.800 let's say,

00:29:49.320 provider in my life

00:29:51.540 of,

00:29:52.500 you know,

00:29:52.920 certain services.

00:29:54.260 And it was a man

00:29:56.460 one day

00:29:57.260 and then I went back

00:29:58.060 to see him

00:29:58.620 and he was dressed

00:29:59.880 as a female

00:30:00.600 and had quote transitioned.

00:30:02.420 And I was shocked.

00:30:03.860 I was not expecting it.

00:30:05.280 Nobody had warned me

00:30:06.500 on his staff

00:30:07.680 that I was walking

00:30:08.700 into somebody

00:30:09.140 who was now going

00:30:09.740 to try to look

00:30:10.680 like a woman.

00:30:11.660 Didn't,

00:30:12.340 but was clearly trying.

00:30:14.040 And we had a discussion

00:30:15.220 about it

00:30:15.860 and literally

00:30:17.280 in that first discussion

00:30:18.940 he tried to tell me

00:30:20.160 that he had been

00:30:20.980 me too'd

00:30:22.320 in his first two weeks

00:30:24.480 of being a woman

00:30:25.640 that some man

00:30:27.240 had quote grabbed

00:30:28.320 his breast,

00:30:29.440 which was non-existent.

00:30:31.080 I'm like,

00:30:31.760 this is so ridiculous.

00:30:33.180 Like the glomming

00:30:35.100 onto every,

00:30:35.800 like,

00:30:36.200 okay,

00:30:36.640 that,

00:30:37.000 that too is sort of a

00:30:38.440 part of the sickness,

00:30:39.680 right?

00:30:40.120 Like these guys

00:30:41.680 who pretend

00:30:42.100 they get a period,

00:30:43.520 these guys who pretend

00:30:44.280 they've been me too'd,

00:30:45.820 that they've been

00:30:46.620 like sexually assaulted

00:30:48.360 like because they're a woman.

00:30:50.520 It's just,

00:30:51.120 it's so creepy

00:30:52.540 and it's all part

00:30:53.680 of my,

00:30:54.200 just take,

00:30:55.320 you,

00:30:55.780 you take your own illness

00:30:57.340 or whatever's going on

00:30:58.200 with you.

00:30:58.680 You work it out

00:30:59.380 with your doctor.

00:31:00.140 I'm not engaging.

00:31:01.300 I'm not supportive.

00:31:02.420 I'm not,

00:31:03.020 I won't bully you

00:31:04.140 to your face.

00:31:04.820 I'm not going to see you

00:31:05.600 and try to make you feel bad,

00:31:06.780 but I'm not,

00:31:07.800 I'm not participating

00:31:08.680 in any way.

00:31:10.080 Well,

00:31:10.500 absolutely.

00:31:10.820 I'm not saying

00:31:11.300 I'm like the biggest,

00:31:12.440 anybody who watches me

00:31:13.700 knows I'm not the biggest

00:31:14.720 trans cheerleader.

00:31:15.720 I was just saying yesterday,

00:31:17.100 what's unfortunate

00:31:17.900 with pride month

00:31:18.760 is us normal gays

00:31:20.360 are being lumped in

00:31:21.320 with these radical T's

00:31:22.740 and we are sick of it.

00:31:23.820 It's wrong.

00:31:23.860 We don't want to be lumped in

00:31:25.180 and that's what I,

00:31:25.980 that's what I was trying

00:31:26.540 to explain.

00:31:27.040 It's like for decades,

00:31:28.040 we just wanted gay marriage.

00:31:29.580 We got gay marriage

00:31:30.440 and now everybody else

00:31:32.120 is ruining it

00:31:32.760 for the rest of us.

00:31:33.540 We were fine after that.

00:31:34.700 Let us be,

00:31:35.420 let us live our lives.

00:31:36.680 Now it's like,

00:31:37.180 we want to be

00:31:37.680 in women's bathrooms.

00:31:38.840 We want to dress like women.

00:31:40.060 We want to have,

00:31:40.580 you know what you were saying,

00:31:41.360 fake periods

00:31:42.020 and performative womanhood.

00:31:43.780 We were fine being normal

00:31:45.200 and now we're all being lumped in

00:31:46.460 with the LGBTQR2D2

00:31:48.820 that we want nothing to do with,

00:31:50.360 honestly.

00:31:50.660 It's so true.

00:31:51.240 And no one has the balls

00:31:51.920 to say it.

00:31:53.780 What, what does,

00:31:55.980 I mean, I know you saw this,

00:31:57.800 these numbers,

00:31:58.620 but there was just a poll out

00:31:59.740 on Abergefell

00:32:00.380 and how people are feeling

00:32:02.060 about gay marriage

00:32:02.820 10 years after

00:32:03.560 the Supreme Court ruling.

00:32:04.480 Right.

00:32:04.820 And the numbers show

00:32:05.880 that Democrats are overwhelmingly

00:32:07.100 in favor of it still.

00:32:09.440 Independents are some,

00:32:10.500 they're exactly where

00:32:11.240 they've always been,

00:32:11.920 was like 74%.

00:32:12.880 I think the Democrats

00:32:13.540 are 92% in favor.

00:32:15.100 And the Republicans

00:32:16.080 have gone way down.

00:32:17.980 They were like at 55% support

00:32:19.600 a few years ago

00:32:20.400 and now they're at 41%.

00:32:23.040 So to what do we attribute

00:32:25.840 the fall in Republican support

00:32:28.940 for gay marriage?

00:32:30.180 So I've gotten so many messages

00:32:32.220 about this from liberals

00:32:33.360 saying,

00:32:33.860 how could you be friends

00:32:34.820 with Republicans?

00:32:35.600 How could you be conservative?

00:32:36.780 How could you go

00:32:37.360 on Megyn Kelly's show?

00:32:38.360 How could you like

00:32:39.000 President Trump?

00:32:39.860 I never look down

00:32:41.440 on voters.

00:32:42.320 I will attack Kamala Harris.

00:32:43.740 I will attack public figures.

00:32:45.920 I am never going to look down

00:32:47.480 on Republican voters.

00:32:48.880 In fact,

00:32:49.180 I try to understand them.

00:32:50.820 I do not blame them

00:32:51.800 whatsoever for saying,

00:32:52.980 you know what?

00:32:53.720 We are a little bit tired

00:32:55.040 of the LGBT stuff.

00:32:56.580 And I think that's what

00:32:57.260 you're seeing in the polls.

00:32:58.600 Years ago,

00:32:59.260 people were fine with it.

00:33:00.460 They got gay marriage.

00:33:01.560 Go do what you want to do.

00:33:02.900 You want to get married.

00:33:03.760 It was a great day

00:33:04.460 for gay divorce lawyers

00:33:05.600 as well,

00:33:06.340 the Obergefell decision.

00:33:07.760 That's right.

00:33:08.060 When you look at these polls,

00:33:10.080 I think what's really

00:33:10.880 coming out in the polls

00:33:11.980 is that all the trans stuff

00:33:13.520 is being shoved down

00:33:14.320 our throats every day

00:33:15.160 on social media.

00:33:16.180 You turn on TV

00:33:17.160 and the trans voices

00:33:18.020 that are the loudest

00:33:18.860 are the ones with blue hair

00:33:20.160 screaming,

00:33:20.920 they're shrill,

00:33:21.580 they're invading women's spaces.

00:33:23.040 So I don't blame

00:33:23.900 Republican voters

00:33:24.700 for saying,

00:33:25.380 uh-uh,

00:33:25.820 we're tired of it.

00:33:26.640 Nope, nope, nope.

00:33:27.560 We gave you what you wanted,

00:33:28.560 but now we're tired of it.

00:33:29.560 So I don't blame them

00:33:30.320 whatsoever.

00:33:31.060 And I know that upsets

00:33:31.960 a lot of liberal LGBT people.

00:33:33.960 They want me to be the one

00:33:34.880 to come out here

00:33:35.540 and say,

00:33:35.880 you guys,

00:33:36.420 get on board with us.

00:33:37.240 But I think a lot of LGBT people

00:33:39.500 need to do some self-reflection.

00:33:41.620 You have to take culpability

00:33:42.740 for what you have done.

00:33:44.220 And the trans people out there

00:33:45.480 like Dylan Mulvaney and others,

00:33:46.900 they're ruining it

00:33:47.580 for the rest of us.

00:33:48.540 The radicals invading women's spaces,

00:33:50.440 they're ruining it

00:33:51.100 for the rest of us.

00:33:52.060 That's what's happening.

00:33:52.880 So if you guys can't look

00:33:53.800 in the mirror

00:33:54.200 and be self-reflective,

00:33:55.280 I can't help you.

00:33:56.200 But I do not blame

00:33:57.100 the voters whatsoever

00:33:57.980 for saying they're

00:33:58.620 a little fatigued

00:33:59.600 with all the LGBTQ plus nonsense.

00:34:02.880 What do you make of,

00:34:04.300 because I've seen a lot of this,

00:34:06.120 I mean, I have a lot

00:34:07.200 of gay and lesbian friends

00:34:08.960 who are married

00:34:10.080 and who have kids.

00:34:11.500 And there has been an uptick

00:34:13.920 in my anecdotal observation

00:34:15.760 of opinions and messaging

00:34:18.460 on the conservative side

00:34:20.280 against, in particular,

00:34:22.920 gay adoption.

00:34:23.920 Like showing two gay men

00:34:25.840 in like a hospital

00:34:27.780 receiving a baby

00:34:29.720 born by surrogate.

00:34:31.380 It may be one of the male's sperm,

00:34:33.160 or it may have

00:34:34.360 no biological connection

00:34:35.660 to the men.

00:34:36.440 You know, it can be done

00:34:37.220 any way.

00:34:39.740 But a lot of conservatives

00:34:41.200 who I really like

00:34:42.080 and respect

00:34:42.660 will circulate these videos

00:34:44.560 in very harsh terms,

00:34:46.820 you know, referring to it

00:34:47.620 as like almost theft

00:34:49.220 of a baby

00:34:49.760 and the denial

00:34:50.880 of a baby's right

00:34:52.420 and need to be

00:34:53.180 with its mother

00:34:54.080 right after the baby's born.

00:34:57.100 I confess to you, Link,

00:34:58.300 I see these videos

00:34:59.000 and I always,

00:34:59.620 I'm like, oh God,

00:35:00.540 because I have lots of gay men

00:35:02.700 who in my life

00:35:03.540 who I adore

00:35:04.060 who have kids

00:35:04.900 and I know

00:35:05.440 they're wonderful parents

00:35:06.380 and lesbians too

00:35:07.440 who are raising

00:35:07.960 wonderful children.

00:35:09.080 But I, as a mom,

00:35:10.380 I'm also like,

00:35:11.280 you know,

00:35:13.000 they, little babies,

00:35:14.040 they do need their mama.

00:35:15.280 They need breast milk.

00:35:16.700 They need, like,

00:35:17.080 I don't know.

00:35:17.660 I, I'm going to admit

00:35:19.160 to being torn,

00:35:20.220 but I feel like this is

00:35:21.180 playing a role

00:35:21.680 in these numbers.

00:35:23.280 Absolutely.

00:35:23.740 And what's interesting

00:35:24.240 is I'm torn too.

00:35:25.540 And that's what I love

00:35:26.080 about social media

00:35:27.000 and my platform

00:35:27.720 is like I'm in my 20s

00:35:29.000 and my audience

00:35:29.620 can see me grow up

00:35:30.660 and figure out

00:35:31.260 where I stand on issues too

00:35:32.640 because I'm seeing

00:35:33.460 all the same videos

00:35:34.240 and I'm in my head going,

00:35:35.460 they're taking,

00:35:36.720 like, the woman's

00:35:37.340 in the other room,

00:35:38.040 the surrogate,

00:35:38.640 she just gave birth

00:35:39.520 and the baby's being,

00:35:40.660 you know,

00:35:40.940 rushed into the other room

00:35:42.180 with these guys

00:35:42.860 and I think maybe

00:35:44.000 the baby does need

00:35:44.880 some nourishment.

00:35:45.600 It needs to latch.

00:35:46.860 It might want to have

00:35:47.920 that bond with the mother.

00:35:49.400 But then again,

00:35:50.520 the guys want to have the baby.

00:35:51.700 So it's like you're down the middle

00:35:52.760 and it's really confusing.

00:35:54.000 But I do think

00:35:54.560 there are gay guys

00:35:55.280 who use their babies as props.

00:35:57.040 There are a lot of gay couples.

00:35:58.000 I see you have babies

00:35:59.120 and they want to dress them up

00:36:00.480 and trot them out

00:36:01.220 on social media

00:36:01.980 like almost, you know,

00:36:02.980 a puppy or something like that.

00:36:04.580 That's also what makes me sick.

00:36:06.120 I saw a gay couple online recently.

00:36:08.120 I think the guy's name

00:36:08.860 was Mike Del Moro

00:36:09.720 and he's a big influencer.

00:36:12.160 His partner's a big influencer

00:36:13.360 and they kept doing

00:36:14.720 this like brand deal

00:36:15.920 or sponsorship

00:36:16.600 and I'm not alleging anything.

00:36:18.140 This is just my personal take.

00:36:19.820 I felt like they got

00:36:20.760 a brand deal sponsorship

00:36:21.940 to adopt a baby.

00:36:23.480 They had a surrogate

00:36:24.840 and they somehow used

00:36:25.940 some surrogacy service

00:36:26.920 that was giving them a discount

00:36:28.100 for doing an Instagram reel

00:36:29.580 and that just made me feel so sick.

00:36:32.040 I'm like,

00:36:32.300 I think they're getting

00:36:33.280 a discount on the baby

00:36:34.600 because they're promoting

00:36:35.820 the surrogacy service

00:36:37.460 for gay men.

00:36:38.280 So I'm with you too.

00:36:39.340 I'm torn

00:36:40.120 because I know

00:36:41.020 my bond with my mom

00:36:42.580 is so strong

00:36:43.460 but then I know

00:36:44.240 gay couples

00:36:44.880 who have beautiful kids

00:36:46.400 that they're raising

00:36:47.120 and they have

00:36:48.000 a beautiful family.

00:36:49.320 I think if I were

00:36:50.080 going to have kids,

00:36:50.840 I would just want to make sure

00:36:51.900 that they're strong women

00:36:54.180 in the kid's life

00:36:55.200 because you need

00:36:56.080 that balance, okay?

00:36:57.280 You can't just have

00:36:57.940 the guys in the house

00:36:58.820 all the time.

00:36:59.340 They need to be exposed

00:37:00.120 to other people

00:37:00.800 who are interesting

00:37:01.560 and strong women

00:37:02.540 and I would make sure

00:37:03.260 to have that

00:37:03.800 but I'm like you.

00:37:04.800 I'm figuring out

00:37:05.280 where I stand on the issue.

00:37:06.440 Luckily,

00:37:06.760 I don't have to cross

00:37:07.460 that bridge anytime soon.

00:37:09.420 Yes, you're still young.

00:37:10.480 You have your whole life

00:37:11.680 ahead of you.

00:37:13.220 Yeah, and that's,

00:37:14.100 I mean, it's interesting

00:37:14.780 because Obergefell

00:37:15.640 obviously is the law of the land

00:37:16.740 but those numbers

00:37:17.860 are going down, down, down

00:37:18.900 on the Republican side

00:37:19.680 and I do wonder

00:37:20.320 whether it will result

00:37:21.980 in any sort of policy change.

00:37:23.780 Like, the law is the law.

00:37:24.980 The Supreme Court decision,

00:37:26.520 I mean, it is what it is

00:37:27.400 until it isn't.

00:37:28.160 Like, I can say

00:37:29.120 it would never be reversed

00:37:30.180 because we just saw

00:37:30.800 Roe versus Wade reversed

00:37:31.820 and there's a strain

00:37:33.080 of conservatives

00:37:33.720 who believe it was founded

00:37:35.300 on the same, you know,

00:37:36.620 faulty principles

00:37:37.400 that Roe versus Wade

00:37:38.500 was founded

00:37:39.360 so it could potentially go away

00:37:41.140 though I think

00:37:41.540 it's highly unlikely.

00:37:43.000 Totally.

00:37:43.280 If I could chime in

00:37:43.840 on one last thing on this,

00:37:45.220 the kids who I'm perfectly fine

00:37:46.560 with being adopted,

00:37:47.360 there are a lot of kids

00:37:48.160 who are toddlers,

00:37:49.380 they're tweens,

00:37:50.380 they're stuck

00:37:50.820 in the foster care system

00:37:52.000 being jostled around,

00:37:53.260 they have no stability,

00:37:54.520 they don't have

00:37:54.960 a stable education system

00:37:56.340 and there are affluent

00:37:57.800 gay couples, right?

00:37:58.880 Gay couples make a lot of money.

00:38:00.340 You've got two guys

00:38:01.080 in the household

00:38:01.680 so if they really want a child

00:38:03.680 and the kid is being pushed

00:38:05.120 around to foster care systems

00:38:06.520 and they have a safe home,

00:38:07.960 that I'm perfectly fine with

00:38:09.240 but I agree,

00:38:10.080 I see the videos

00:38:10.860 of these babies

00:38:11.600 being taken

00:38:12.320 the second they're born

00:38:13.380 into the other room

00:38:14.420 to the guys

00:38:14.980 and I think,

00:38:15.700 oh God,

00:38:16.140 what about all those hormones

00:38:17.220 and the connection

00:38:17.900 and the umbilical cord

00:38:19.300 and it just is really complicated.

00:38:22.160 It really is.

00:38:23.440 Okay, let's switch

00:38:24.400 and talk a little politics

00:38:25.720 because I want to get into

00:38:26.780 some news that's out there.

00:38:28.440 So President Trump,

00:38:30.360 the White House,

00:38:31.480 just unveiled

00:38:32.840 his new presidential portrait.

00:38:36.220 It's a picture of him

00:38:37.240 for 2025 America

00:38:39.180 and I'm sorry,

00:38:41.180 but it's badass.

00:38:42.520 I love it.

00:38:44.040 It's so good.

00:38:45.360 It's unlike any other

00:38:46.560 presidential portrait

00:38:47.580 we've ever seen.

00:38:48.700 It doesn't show him

00:38:49.760 in front of a flag,

00:38:50.720 which is unusual.

00:38:51.540 For the listening audience,

00:38:52.880 it's like Trump's got

00:38:54.380 maybe like a hint of a smile

00:38:57.080 on his face here.

00:38:58.820 It's not like a big smile.

00:39:00.520 He's got like the serious eyebrows

00:39:02.420 that look almost slightly furrowed,

00:39:05.140 but he doesn't look mean.

00:39:06.600 You know,

00:39:06.720 like it captures so much about him

00:39:08.960 where he has zero Fs to give,

00:39:12.240 but he's still in good humor.

00:39:14.980 He's tough.

00:39:16.280 He's been through a lot

00:39:17.680 and is still standing

00:39:18.700 and he looks wiser in this photo

00:39:22.320 than, you know,

00:39:23.120 a lot of the other portraits

00:39:24.260 would project.

00:39:25.260 You know,

00:39:25.480 there's something about,

00:39:26.940 it's a very,

00:39:27.800 very effective picture of him

00:39:29.500 because it does show

00:39:30.500 so many aspects of his personality.

00:39:32.660 What do you think of it?

00:39:34.020 Well, it's interesting

00:39:34.960 how life kind of runs in parallels

00:39:36.680 because I remember being

00:39:37.760 on your show six months ago

00:39:39.200 and they unveiled

00:39:39.880 the official White House portrait

00:39:41.440 that morning

00:39:42.000 and we came on to talk about it.

00:39:43.360 So it's interesting

00:39:43.920 how life comes around full circle.

00:39:45.520 But no,

00:39:46.020 that picture was taken

00:39:46.740 by Daniel Turok,

00:39:47.720 who's actually a good friend of mine.

00:39:49.340 And I've loved having a front row seat

00:39:50.800 to seeing him flourish and grow.

00:39:52.800 And there's so many unsung heroes

00:39:54.380 behind the scenes

00:39:55.040 at the White House

00:39:55.700 whose names we would not know,

00:39:57.400 but he always takes

00:39:58.200 the most incredible pictures

00:39:59.880 of President Trump.

00:40:00.760 There's always been this narrative

00:40:02.240 in liberal media.

00:40:03.220 President Trump has no internal monologue

00:40:05.100 or no internal life

00:40:06.340 or if he's not engaged,

00:40:07.840 there's nothing going on.

00:40:09.080 That's certainly not the case

00:40:10.280 because when we look

00:40:10.980 at these portraits,

00:40:12.040 you can see a man

00:40:12.840 who's been through the lawfare,

00:40:14.920 assassination attempts.

00:40:16.140 He's been through the ringer.

00:40:17.420 There's no one in public life

00:40:19.040 who could take the hits

00:40:20.120 President Trump has

00:40:21.040 and still get back up

00:40:22.300 with a smile on their face

00:40:23.420 who's feeling jovial

00:40:24.460 and jubilant and happy.

00:40:26.160 And that's what I felt

00:40:26.780 we got from the picture.

00:40:28.040 And then it was a cherry on top

00:40:29.240 that President Trump's hair

00:40:30.300 also looked great.

00:40:31.620 I will say that.

00:40:32.840 President Trump's hair looked great.

00:40:34.300 The skin looked great.

00:40:35.400 The coloring looked great.

00:40:36.500 So shout out to you, Daniel.

00:40:37.880 This is not a topic that I planned.

00:40:39.500 You guys chose this topic,

00:40:41.060 but the picture is incredible.

00:40:42.860 No, I love the picture.

00:40:44.380 I've never seen quite a shot

00:40:46.160 like that of Trump

00:40:47.000 because it's easy to show him

00:40:48.540 just looking tough guy

00:40:49.640 and it's easy to show him jovial

00:40:51.680 with the YMCA.

00:40:53.040 You know, he's got that side,

00:40:54.260 but it's not easy to capture it all

00:40:56.820 in one shot.

00:40:58.600 They must have been very pleased

00:40:59.700 when they saw that on film.

00:41:02.020 Because even if you see it

00:41:02.800 in real life,

00:41:03.380 can you capture it on camera?

00:41:04.660 Can you actually get the moment?

00:41:06.160 Is the lighting going to work?

00:41:07.460 Are his eyes going to be open?

00:41:08.300 There's so many, you know,

00:41:09.120 contingencies.

00:41:10.140 And this one is a,

00:41:10.900 it's a really beautiful,

00:41:12.120 powerful photo.

00:41:12.920 And to me,

00:41:13.980 it just happened,

00:41:14.640 it hit just as this viral shot

00:41:17.280 of Joe Rogan was going around.

00:41:19.580 Don Jr. tweeted it out on X.

00:41:22.200 And it was from last week.

00:41:23.600 And I'm like,

00:41:24.580 this picture matches,

00:41:27.020 if it had a soundbite

00:41:28.740 that could play underneath it,

00:41:30.420 you know,

00:41:30.940 in like a virtual experience

00:41:32.840 as you walk through the White House,

00:41:34.120 this might be the soundbite

00:41:35.460 from Joe Rogan.

00:41:36.180 Watch.

00:41:37.580 It's also like,

00:41:38.600 they're like,

00:41:38.860 oh, he's a crazy person.

00:41:40.140 Like, yeah,

00:41:40.980 that's the only kind of person

00:41:43.000 that would survive

00:41:43.820 what you try to do to him.

00:41:45.480 Right.

00:41:46.100 That's the only kind of guy

00:41:47.640 that gets through.

00:41:48.680 Like, you want a perfect person?

00:41:50.020 A perfect person morally falls apart

00:41:52.460 by the time they've been indicted

00:41:55.220 and they have 34 counts,

00:41:57.040 felony counts.

00:41:57.780 Like, your whole body

00:41:58.900 is just destroyed

00:41:59.840 by the stress of you

00:42:00.780 possibly going to jail

00:42:02.000 for the rest of your life.

00:42:03.000 You have to be a fucking insane person

00:42:05.100 to ride that out

00:42:06.320 and not look like anything even happened.

00:42:08.200 Then you get shot.

00:42:09.780 Yeah.

00:42:10.180 You get up after you got shot.

00:42:12.280 You're fucking bleeding from your ear

00:42:13.920 and you go fight, fight, fight.

00:42:15.520 You gotta be a crazy person

00:42:17.020 to get through.

00:42:18.000 He's a nightmare

00:42:19.340 for anybody

00:42:20.460 that's trying to rig a system.

00:42:22.020 Like, that guy's the nightmare.

00:42:23.740 He's the final boss

00:42:25.000 of fuck you.

00:42:27.620 There it is, Link.

00:42:29.040 Yes.

00:42:30.860 Absolutely.

00:42:31.540 No, I feel like that picture

00:42:32.820 perfectly encapsulates

00:42:34.380 the final boss of F you.

00:42:36.100 And I've been calling this

00:42:37.040 the FAFO administration,

00:42:38.940 the F around

00:42:39.520 and find out administration.

00:42:41.240 Because when you look at everybody,

00:42:42.980 these are people

00:42:43.640 you do not want to cross.

00:42:44.960 You've got Stephen Chung.

00:42:46.200 Does this look like a person

00:42:47.220 you want to cross on a bad day?

00:42:49.160 No.

00:42:49.680 You've got Stephen Miller.

00:42:50.800 He will bite your head off.

00:42:51.760 Like, this is the FAFO administration.

00:42:53.880 You've got Bobby Kennedy in there

00:42:55.140 who wants to tear down the system

00:42:56.360 and make us healthier.

00:42:57.300 So I couldn't be happier.

00:42:58.900 And that's one of the things

00:42:59.660 I love so much about President Trump.

00:43:01.200 And people get upset with me.

00:43:02.420 Oh, you're too sycophantic.

00:43:03.540 You're too supportive of President Trump.

00:43:05.420 This is someone who we should all look up to

00:43:07.100 who has taken the hits,

00:43:08.360 taken the shots, literally,

00:43:09.880 and still gets back up every single day.

00:43:12.380 And he just sort of starts each day again

00:43:14.180 almost like a video game character

00:43:15.780 where, okay, we're starting again.

00:43:17.620 Yesterday, barrage of bad press,

00:43:19.380 got shot at,

00:43:20.240 something horrible happened.

00:43:21.300 But what are we doing today

00:43:22.480 to make the country better?

00:43:23.700 And I think that's incredible.

00:43:25.880 Trump's approval rating right now

00:43:27.440 is up eight points,

00:43:29.000 according to Trafalgar.

00:43:30.960 It's really amazing.

00:43:32.580 He's doing extremely well.

00:43:34.480 He was down a little bit

00:43:35.980 during the whole tariff, Palooza.

00:43:38.400 But Trafalgar's got his numbers as of June,

00:43:40.940 now up eight percentage points.

00:43:43.780 How do you feel about President Trump

00:43:45.040 and how he's handling his job?

00:43:46.640 Strongly approve, 42.1.

00:43:49.180 Approve, 11.6.

00:43:51.920 So that's 53, almost 54% approval rating.

00:43:57.460 We've never seen that for him, never.

00:43:59.140 That's crazy high for any president

00:44:02.380 in today's day and age

00:44:03.680 and really high for President Trump,

00:44:05.820 who's all he gets is Nazi, Hitler, fascist.

00:44:10.080 He doesn't get positive media coverage.

00:44:12.380 The American public has learned

00:44:13.920 to totally discount the media

00:44:17.040 when it comes to Trump.

00:44:18.700 They know about TDS.

00:44:21.760 Well, absolutely.

00:44:22.740 I think the legacy media

00:44:23.640 just has less power than ever.

00:44:25.300 I mean, even Jake Tapper,

00:44:26.340 he's on this huge book tour,

00:44:27.480 but he has his lowest ratings in 10 years.

00:44:29.680 You know, he's doing less than 100,000

00:44:31.340 in the key demo.

00:44:32.440 So it's not that these people

00:44:33.380 don't have influence.

00:44:34.480 It's just that nobody is watching.

00:44:36.000 I hate to say it.

00:44:36.960 MSNBC, their ratings are in the gutter.

00:44:39.080 CNN, your ratings are in the gutter.

00:44:40.760 So even if you guys started reporting

00:44:42.500 the real news

00:44:43.300 and you weren't partisan hacks,

00:44:44.760 I just don't think anyone's watching, right?

00:44:46.920 No one gives a rap.

00:44:47.660 We want to scroll through our phones.

00:44:50.260 We want to listen to a podcast.

00:44:51.580 We want to get the news on X.

00:44:52.880 We don't want to watch you.

00:44:54.360 And you guys also unmasked yourselves

00:44:55.920 as liars because you told us for years

00:44:58.020 Joe Biden was in great shape.

00:44:59.560 We found out you were liars.

00:45:00.920 And then overnight,

00:45:01.740 the same people who covered for Biden

00:45:03.240 are telling us Kamala

00:45:04.320 is going to save democracy.

00:45:05.700 And we're like, no,

00:45:06.740 she seems like a drunk wine mom

00:45:08.700 who can barely form a coherent sentence,

00:45:10.680 but they tried to gaslight us.

00:45:12.640 So no, President Trump has gotten nothing

00:45:14.140 but negative press for 10 years

00:45:16.160 since he jumped into the race in 2015.

00:45:18.060 But he's still on top

00:45:19.400 because unlike the left,

00:45:20.760 he's doing exactly what he campaigned on.

00:45:23.280 If you have followed Trump

00:45:24.400 every single day for years,

00:45:26.080 he's been talking about the tariffs

00:45:27.560 decades ago on Oprah.

00:45:29.460 He was talking about the tariffs.

00:45:30.960 He ran on securing the border.

00:45:32.740 He said, we don't need this big package.

00:45:34.740 All we need is a new president.

00:45:36.080 The border is more secure than ever.

00:45:37.800 He ran on getting men out of women's sports.

00:45:39.520 So what does he do

00:45:40.140 one of his first weeks in office?

00:45:41.740 Beautiful executive order

00:45:43.020 surrounded by all the young women.

00:45:44.960 Incredible day.

00:45:45.980 The executive order

00:45:46.660 to get men out of women's sports.

00:45:47.920 So I think the left,

00:45:48.880 their heads are reeling

00:45:49.740 because they're just so used to lying

00:45:51.560 and giving empty promises to the public.

00:45:53.580 And he came in and said,

00:45:54.740 this is what I ran on.

00:45:56.040 I'm going to do what I ran on

00:45:57.300 and I have nothing to lose

00:45:58.360 because I'm one term

00:45:59.460 and I've been through hell to get here.

00:46:00.980 So all of you can F off.

00:46:02.260 That I think is President Trump's mindset.

00:46:04.640 Okay.

00:46:05.500 Speaking of leftist empty vapidity,

00:46:09.300 Meghan Markle is out there

00:46:12.180 with some medical advice.

00:46:16.200 She's giving medical advice now.

00:46:18.060 Yeah, Link.

00:46:19.040 And she had on

00:46:20.140 Confessions of a Female Founder,

00:46:23.140 her podcast.

00:46:23.940 I'm a founder,

00:46:24.640 just in case you didn't know.

00:46:26.080 She had on Beyonce's mother.

00:46:29.440 And here we go into Dr. Meghan Markle.

00:46:33.100 Watch.

00:46:35.460 My allergies are...

00:46:37.160 Oh, no.

00:46:38.320 Do you eat local honey?

00:46:39.680 That can help.

00:46:40.780 You know, I used to

00:46:42.160 and it really does work.

00:46:44.360 I have to get back to that.

00:46:45.940 You have to get back on that

00:46:47.340 because I just...

00:46:48.360 The other day,

00:46:49.040 one of Archie's little friends at school,

00:46:51.260 this little girl has such bad allergies

00:46:52.640 and I said,

00:46:53.180 hold on a minute.

00:46:53.700 We have bees.

00:46:54.400 Let me give you a jar of our honey.

00:46:55.960 For allergies,

00:46:57.460 helpful because the local,

00:46:58.980 you know,

00:46:59.300 if it's local honey.

00:47:00.740 Yes.

00:47:01.720 Get that,

00:47:02.140 all the pollen,

00:47:03.060 all the same things in your system

00:47:04.320 and then it desensitizes allergies.

00:47:06.260 But I'm sorry.

00:47:07.160 Oh, well, thank you.

00:47:07.880 That's no fun.

00:47:10.220 How weird is it

00:47:11.180 that she kept that in,

00:47:12.120 first of all,

00:47:12.640 when your guest starts having

00:47:13.640 some sort of a sneezing

00:47:15.220 or coughing attack

00:47:16.100 and you're on tape?

00:47:17.040 I'm sorry, Megan.

00:47:18.480 The reason she kept that in

00:47:20.020 and left Beyonce's mothers

00:47:21.580 hacking in there for her audience

00:47:23.340 is because she thinks

00:47:23.900 it makes her look empathetic

00:47:25.260 and super smart

00:47:26.320 to spew her bullshit nonsense

00:47:27.960 about honey,

00:47:28.960 which, by the way,

00:47:29.500 there's been studies on this

00:47:30.740 and she's wrong, shockingly.

00:47:32.660 But, you know,

00:47:33.240 Dr. Meghan Markle's

00:47:34.500 got all the answers, Link.

00:47:36.360 She's a jack-of-all-trades.

00:47:38.260 She can't do anything well,

00:47:39.880 but she tries to do everything.

00:47:41.920 That is Megan Markle.

00:47:43.300 So, no,

00:47:43.680 she acts like she invented

00:47:44.720 manuka honey

00:47:45.680 or some of these

00:47:46.340 homeopathic remedies.

00:47:47.940 Also, there's just this

00:47:48.820 undertone of elitism

00:47:50.340 to everything

00:47:50.980 Megan Markle does

00:47:51.820 because how many times

00:47:52.920 recently

00:47:53.360 have we had to see

00:47:54.380 videos and pictures

00:47:55.260 of this farm

00:47:56.740 she has for bees

00:47:57.840 on her property

00:47:58.600 and she has her

00:47:59.340 beekeeper outfit.

00:48:00.200 She really wants

00:48:01.380 to remind us

00:48:01.980 every single day

00:48:02.780 that she has bees,

00:48:04.220 she's mother nature,

00:48:05.340 she's down home,

00:48:06.380 mother of the earth.

00:48:07.340 We are sick

00:48:07.960 of hearing about it.

00:48:09.240 You know what I'm saying?

00:48:09.960 We are tired of seeing her

00:48:11.300 in her beekeeper costume.

00:48:13.280 And it's like,

00:48:13.740 can't you get any outfits

00:48:14.900 that look good on you?

00:48:15.920 How come the beekeeper outfit

00:48:17.060 is the most perfectly

00:48:18.360 form-fitting outfit

00:48:19.340 you own?

00:48:19.980 Everything else is wrinkled

00:48:21.060 and misshapen

00:48:21.740 and two sizes too big.

00:48:23.180 So, no,

00:48:23.580 I would not be taking

00:48:24.460 medical advice

00:48:25.340 from Meghan Markle

00:48:26.700 whatsoever.

00:48:27.580 Only we had found her

00:48:28.740 during Maha.

00:48:29.560 Only if we had found her

00:48:30.520 on the campaign

00:48:31.080 she would have been

00:48:31.460 a great surrogate.

00:48:32.980 Like, literally,

00:48:33.520 this person was saying

00:48:34.340 that she was seriously

00:48:35.660 considering, like,

00:48:36.820 suicide a couple of years ago

00:48:38.940 because some of the royal family

00:48:40.200 were mean to her.

00:48:41.000 I don't think we should

00:48:41.580 be looking to her

00:48:42.320 for any sort of wellness

00:48:43.720 advice or counsel

00:48:45.140 whatsoever.

00:48:45.900 And the notion,

00:48:46.940 you're so right

00:48:47.420 about the elitism thing

00:48:48.400 because it's like,

00:48:49.860 in her stupid show

00:48:51.380 that they're pretending

00:48:51.980 got renewed by Netflix

00:48:53.180 as ever or with love,

00:48:54.780 whatever it is,

00:48:55.320 she's, like,

00:48:57.820 constantly saying,

00:48:58.660 have you been

00:49:00.220 to your local beekeeper?

00:49:02.000 No.

00:49:02.500 I haven't been

00:49:03.300 in my local,

00:49:03.860 no.

00:49:04.480 Literally nobody's been

00:49:05.500 to their local beekeeper.

00:49:06.760 We have jobs.

00:49:07.480 We have kids.

00:49:08.640 We have things

00:49:09.080 that actually keep us busy

00:49:10.540 that stop us from,

00:49:11.940 A, having our own beehive

00:49:13.540 and, B, if we don't,

00:49:15.920 going to our local beekeeper

00:49:17.300 for anything.

00:49:18.300 I'm lucky if I can get

00:49:19.180 to the Acme.

00:49:20.000 I think I speak for everyone.

00:49:22.320 No, absolutely.

00:49:23.240 There's just this

00:49:23.800 undertone of elitism

00:49:24.780 and something she never

00:49:25.620 talks about

00:49:26.140 because we don't see

00:49:26.880 them on camera.

00:49:27.760 She has a full staff, okay?

00:49:29.640 She has a full staff

00:49:30.800 and she only has two kids.

00:49:32.020 It's not like she's

00:49:32.460 raising the Brady Bunch here.

00:49:33.700 She doesn't need

00:49:34.260 15 andes and drivers

00:49:35.720 and chauffeurs,

00:49:36.560 but she has this

00:49:37.400 full entire staff.

00:49:38.700 She has a farm for bees.

00:49:40.200 She has another property

00:49:41.240 that's not even her home

00:49:42.400 that she just goes

00:49:43.140 to film the show in.

00:49:44.600 So then she tries

00:49:45.240 to opine and tell us

00:49:46.340 how to live our lives.

00:49:47.380 You're full of crap,

00:49:48.440 Meghan Markle,

00:49:48.880 but I think this is

00:49:49.760 Meghan Markle's journey.

00:49:50.900 Just keep becoming

00:49:51.900 more and more

00:49:52.960 out of touch,

00:49:53.680 but remind us

00:49:54.560 that you grew up

00:49:55.260 over a garage

00:49:55.980 with no money

00:49:56.740 in Compton.

00:49:57.620 Yeah, you really

00:49:58.120 changed quickly.

00:49:59.280 It's always these people

00:50:00.060 who can flip overnight,

00:50:01.400 but I think Meghan Markle

00:50:02.260 become more and more

00:50:03.460 out of touch

00:50:04.040 because it's just insane

00:50:05.040 and it gives us

00:50:05.580 good fodder to talk about.

00:50:07.120 Yeah, it's true.

00:50:07.800 I don't want to stand

00:50:08.300 in her way for one minute.

00:50:09.480 You go, girl.

00:50:10.080 You go, founder.

00:50:11.840 Okay.

00:50:12.840 Link Lauren is the founder

00:50:13.740 of Spot On

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00:51:17.220 Another leftist lie falls apart

00:51:23.420 and this show called BS on it

00:51:25.300 from the very beginning.

00:51:26.560 The saga began last August

00:51:28.200 during the Olympics in Paris.

00:51:30.460 That's when the world witnessed

00:51:31.460 a biologically male boxer

00:51:33.200 pummel a female boxer.

00:51:35.400 It took only 46 seconds

00:51:36.740 for the woman to withdraw

00:51:38.620 from the fight,

00:51:39.700 which was supposed to be

00:51:40.800 between two women.

00:51:42.120 The female boxer then fell to her knees,

00:51:44.180 threw her helmet, yelling,

00:51:45.680 this is unjust.

00:51:47.220 Later telling the media,

00:51:48.620 I've never taken a punch like that.

00:51:50.680 It was a prime example

00:51:51.900 of what female athletes

00:51:53.200 from high school

00:51:54.080 all the way to the Olympics

00:51:55.940 are up against

00:51:57.080 when the powers that be

00:51:58.160 cower to rabid gender activists.

00:52:01.480 The male boxer

00:52:02.460 is Algeria's Imane Khalif.

00:52:04.820 Here is what we said on this show

00:52:06.760 just hours after that fight ended.

00:52:09.340 With the whole world watching,

00:52:11.220 we have just witnessed

00:52:12.080 a biological woman,

00:52:13.540 also known as just a woman,

00:52:15.640 in a fight with a boxer

00:52:16.940 who was not allowed

00:52:18.860 to compete against women last year

00:52:20.660 because it's a man.

00:52:22.740 The person's splitting hairs,

00:52:24.580 everyone's splitting hairs

00:52:25.660 around this person,

00:52:26.800 saying, well, you know,

00:52:28.240 he has XY chromosomes,

00:52:30.320 but I guess we can't call him a man

00:52:31.860 because he calls himself a woman.

00:52:33.740 I don't give a shit.

00:52:35.200 You have XY chromosomes,

00:52:36.880 you're a man.

00:52:38.000 Khalif had been disqualified

00:52:39.860 from the 2023

00:52:40.980 Women's World Championships

00:52:42.720 for failing chromosome testing.

00:52:45.640 Another male boxer

00:52:46.740 at the Women's Games,

00:52:48.140 Lin-Yu Ting from Taiwan,

00:52:49.940 also failed the same test.

00:52:51.860 Some had speculated

00:52:52.760 that they were intersex,

00:52:54.640 meaning they have male chromosomes,

00:52:58.020 they have male internal organs,

00:53:00.220 but they might have a vagina.

00:53:02.980 However, they would never develop breasts,

00:53:06.240 they would never have a period

00:53:07.440 because they don't have a uterus,

00:53:09.160 they don't have ovaries,

00:53:10.520 and they are genetically male,

00:53:13.480 which includes male advantage.

00:53:16.460 That's why a main Khalif

00:53:17.660 looks just like a man,

00:53:19.920 is as large as a man,

00:53:21.540 has the testosterone

00:53:22.760 and body strength

00:53:23.600 and limb length

00:53:25.120 and wingspan of a man.

00:53:27.940 Okay?

00:53:28.240 No one cares

00:53:28.940 what's actually between his legs.

00:53:31.020 We're talking about fairness

00:53:32.160 and safety.

00:53:34.220 All right?

00:53:34.460 But no one would publicly discuss it.

00:53:37.160 In fact, Khalif is adamant

00:53:38.600 that he is 100% a woman,

00:53:40.800 saying during the games,

00:53:41.900 I am a woman,

00:53:43.520 like any other woman.

00:53:45.780 He has called anyone questioning that

00:53:47.400 enemies of success.

00:53:49.440 These guys were both able

00:53:50.960 to get into the Olympics,

00:53:52.140 even though the International

00:53:53.260 Olympic Committee

00:53:54.180 knew that they had been barred

00:53:56.660 from the championships

00:53:57.740 for testing positive

00:53:58.880 for XY chromosomes.

00:54:00.800 They are not XX.

00:54:02.740 That's female.

00:54:03.600 XX is female.

00:54:05.100 XY is male.

00:54:06.820 The IOC said the pair

00:54:07.860 had competed

00:54:08.360 in the 2021 Tokyo Olympics

00:54:10.160 as women,

00:54:11.760 and after all,

00:54:13.040 their passports

00:54:13.960 state that they are female.

00:54:17.380 Competing in the women's category

00:54:19.200 is participating along,

00:54:23.600 following,

00:54:24.320 complying with the competition

00:54:25.600 eligibility rules.

00:54:26.860 They are women

00:54:28.220 in their passports,

00:54:29.240 and it's stated

00:54:29.900 that that is the case,

00:54:31.880 that they are female.

00:54:33.960 Well,

00:54:34.720 the passport says it.

00:54:36.100 It must be true.

00:54:37.580 An Olympic boxing trainer

00:54:38.960 in Spain

00:54:39.600 came forward

00:54:40.160 to reveal that Khalif

00:54:41.400 was considered too dangerous

00:54:43.020 for women to fight

00:54:43.960 in that country,

00:54:45.420 saying,

00:54:45.780 quote,

00:54:45.980 whoever we put Khalif with

00:54:47.580 was injured.

00:54:49.160 The tests,

00:54:50.380 the warnings,

00:54:51.420 all ignored by the IOC,

00:54:52.980 and both men

00:54:53.700 went on to win

00:54:54.720 gold medals.

00:54:56.820 The female Olympians

00:54:59.060 after years

00:55:00.000 of incredibly hard work

00:55:02.960 and devotion

00:55:03.720 to the sport

00:55:04.480 basically told,

00:55:06.260 we don't give a damn.

00:55:08.620 Just stop your crying.

00:55:10.740 In fact,

00:55:11.440 the female boxer,

00:55:12.460 Khalif,

00:55:12.760 took down

00:55:13.240 in just 46 seconds,

00:55:14.660 later came out

00:55:15.860 and said she felt

00:55:17.220 sorry for him

00:55:17.880 and apologized

00:55:18.840 for not shaking his hand

00:55:20.340 after the match.

00:55:21.260 Such was the pressure

00:55:22.180 on everyone

00:55:23.220 in her sport

00:55:24.060 and those commenting

00:55:25.120 on it

00:55:25.720 to take a knee

00:55:26.800 on this issue

00:55:27.800 and just accept

00:55:28.660 this is a female.

00:55:30.760 At the same time,

00:55:32.440 many took aim

00:55:33.580 at this show

00:55:34.840 for daring

00:55:35.640 to speak the truth.

00:55:37.260 The Daily Show

00:55:38.100 directly taking aim

00:55:39.800 at yours truly

00:55:40.640 and my womanhood.

00:55:43.560 Seems pretty open

00:55:44.480 and shut to me,

00:55:45.280 right?

00:55:45.620 She was born a woman,

00:55:46.580 lives as a woman,

00:55:47.280 and boxes other women.

00:55:48.640 So what is the argument

00:55:49.460 against that?

00:55:50.580 This is such an outrage.

00:55:52.520 Look at this.

00:55:52.980 This is a man.

00:55:54.140 This is a man

00:55:55.160 who is competing

00:55:56.260 in the boxing tournament

00:55:57.660 for women.

00:55:58.680 No, she's not.

00:55:59.980 She's a woman.

00:56:01.660 She's a woman like you,

00:56:03.000 Megyn Kelly,

00:56:03.580 a woman at the peak

00:56:04.580 of her career,

00:56:05.420 unlike Megyn Kelly,

00:56:06.600 but she...

00:56:09.200 She...

00:56:12.020 Okay,

00:56:12.580 I literally have no idea

00:56:13.480 who that person is,

00:56:14.340 so fine.

00:56:16.220 The leftist outlet Salon

00:56:18.340 loved that segment.

00:56:19.540 Instead of doing

00:56:20.080 any real reporting

00:56:20.860 of its own,

00:56:21.380 the outlet just wrote

00:56:22.080 up an article

00:56:22.540 declaring The Daily Show

00:56:23.560 calls out Megyn Kelly

00:56:24.380 for misgendering

00:56:25.480 Olympic boxer.

00:56:27.100 I didn't misgender

00:56:28.060 him at all.

00:56:30.020 Media Matters

00:56:30.700 also taking aim

00:56:31.660 at this show,

00:56:32.200 writing a headline,

00:56:32.900 Megyn Kelly misgenders

00:56:34.320 Olympic boxer

00:56:35.660 a main caliph.

00:56:37.260 And listen to this segment

00:56:38.460 on The Young Turks

00:56:39.560 where yours truly

00:56:40.760 was labeled

00:56:41.380 garbage person

00:56:42.640 of the week

00:56:43.320 simply for telling

00:56:44.660 the truth.

00:56:45.160 my garbage person

00:56:47.680 of the week

00:56:48.520 is Megyn Kelly.

00:56:50.120 And in the extended

00:56:50.960 commentary,

00:56:51.900 both Carrie,

00:56:52.800 which you saw,

00:56:53.540 and Megyn Kelly

00:56:54.280 intentionally misgender

00:56:56.200 Amani Khalif.

00:56:57.940 Like a month

00:56:59.100 after they know

00:57:01.120 that Amani Khalif

00:57:02.260 is a woman.

00:57:04.120 Objectively,

00:57:04.940 according to all

00:57:05.980 of their weirdly

00:57:07.580 specific definitional

00:57:09.040 requirements,

00:57:10.380 is a woman,

00:57:11.440 has always been a woman,

00:57:12.720 will always be a woman.

00:57:13.980 And they're still

00:57:15.460 misgendering her

00:57:16.400 a month later.

00:57:17.380 They know

00:57:18.100 that their audiences

00:57:19.400 are all men.

00:57:21.320 And they're men

00:57:22.220 that want to see

00:57:23.620 these women

00:57:24.560 attack and demean

00:57:26.260 and belittle

00:57:26.680 other women.

00:57:29.700 Literally not one word

00:57:30.780 of that is right.

00:57:31.560 Right.

00:57:31.820 Not one word.

00:57:32.680 Again,

00:57:32.920 another person

00:57:33.360 I've never seen

00:57:34.120 or heard of.

00:57:34.800 But the list of attacks

00:57:36.440 did not end there.

00:57:37.960 The media took aim

00:57:38.700 at anyone

00:57:39.240 in conservative media

00:57:40.600 telling the truth

00:57:41.720 about these two boxers.

00:57:43.300 Former ESPN anchor

00:57:44.740 Jemele Hill

00:57:45.340 writing on X,

00:57:46.360 I hope Khalif

00:57:46.940 sues some people

00:57:47.940 over their reckless remarks.

00:57:49.800 All this story did

00:57:50.520 was expose

00:57:51.020 ugliness,

00:57:51.760 hatred,

00:57:52.220 and transphobia.

00:57:53.980 Hill then went on CNN

00:57:54.960 where she and one

00:57:55.800 of the network's hosts,

00:57:57.160 Laura Coates,

00:57:57.740 continued to stand up

00:57:59.140 for Khalif.

00:58:00.700 People jumped the gun

00:58:02.000 on this before

00:58:03.060 knowing the full story.

00:58:05.180 Conservative right

00:58:05.920 being at the top

00:58:07.120 of the list

00:58:07.600 are weaponizing

00:58:08.960 trans women

00:58:10.040 and the trans community

00:58:11.140 and using that

00:58:12.220 as part of their

00:58:13.380 ongoing culture wars.

00:58:14.940 That there is

00:58:15.700 certainly a huge issue

00:58:18.340 with transphobia

00:58:19.220 in our country.

00:58:20.280 All it boiled down to

00:58:21.480 was that the woman

00:58:22.500 that she competed again

00:58:23.600 realized after getting hit

00:58:25.400 she couldn't compete.

00:58:26.980 And rather than

00:58:27.620 accept that gracefully

00:58:29.340 as a competitor,

00:58:30.880 she chose

00:58:31.640 to weaponize

00:58:33.240 this further

00:58:34.020 by crying.

00:58:35.320 There was nothing

00:58:35.860 unjust about it.

00:58:36.760 I mean,

00:58:37.360 to be frank,

00:58:38.260 you just got your butt beat

00:58:39.400 and that's the end

00:58:40.680 of what happened.

00:58:42.320 If you want to protect

00:58:43.060 women and daughters,

00:58:44.980 she is a woman,

00:58:45.960 she is somebody's daughter,

00:58:47.220 and she's a woman

00:58:47.880 in sports.

00:58:48.800 It gets conjured

00:58:49.560 up that old statement,

00:58:51.060 ain't I a woman?

00:58:53.320 This is unbelievable.

00:58:55.080 It's unbelievable

00:58:55.800 that the cover

00:58:56.960 that these women ran

00:58:57.900 for a main Khalif

00:58:59.120 who is male.

00:59:00.940 The list goes on

00:59:02.000 and it's long.

00:59:03.400 All right?

00:59:03.840 Just listen.

00:59:04.640 ESPN analyst

00:59:05.460 Mina Kimes

00:59:06.300 shared a similar message.

00:59:07.860 This story has reached

00:59:08.740 thermonuclear levels

00:59:09.820 of BS and grift-fueled hate.

00:59:12.140 Of course,

00:59:12.760 Megan Rapinoe,

00:59:13.940 soccer star,

00:59:15.040 naturally came to

00:59:16.180 a man's defense

00:59:17.200 in female sports

00:59:18.140 now that she's made

00:59:18.860 her millions.

00:59:19.780 She doesn't give a shit

00:59:20.520 about the young girls

00:59:21.360 and others coming up

00:59:22.400 behind her.

00:59:23.240 Reportedly sharing a post

00:59:24.260 by Edge of Sports

00:59:25.260 that read,

00:59:25.860 Khalif deserves so much better

00:59:27.140 than this tsunami

00:59:28.440 of racism,

00:59:29.960 misogyny,

00:59:30.640 misogyny,

00:59:31.660 and transphobia

00:59:32.460 being heaped upon her

00:59:33.620 by a coterie

00:59:34.500 of fascists,

00:59:35.440 right-wingers,

00:59:36.000 and useful idiots.

00:59:37.360 The New York Times

00:59:38.200 writing in a headline,

00:59:39.480 Boxer in Controversy

00:59:40.840 Over Eligibility

00:59:41.720 Lets Her Gloves

00:59:43.960 Do the Talking.

00:59:45.660 Wired,

00:59:46.680 which was the absolute worst.

00:59:49.160 For some reason,

00:59:50.000 they decided

00:59:50.580 their background in tech

00:59:52.180 enabled them

00:59:53.240 to declare once and for all

00:59:54.640 whether someone is a man

00:59:55.620 or a woman.

00:59:56.420 And of course,

00:59:57.120 not surprisingly,

00:59:57.860 they got it wrong.

00:59:59.080 They tweeted,

01:00:00.180 Imane Khalif

01:00:00.820 has always defined herself

01:00:02.660 as a woman

01:00:03.440 and has every right

01:00:04.740 to compete.

01:00:05.460 USA Today

01:00:06.080 called it

01:00:06.580 an unhinged controversy.

01:00:08.280 Bloomberg called it

01:00:09.160 all a manufactured controversy.

01:00:11.340 The Intercept

01:00:12.080 deemed it nothing more

01:00:13.080 than, quote,

01:00:13.480 a right-wing campaign

01:00:14.840 to purge women

01:00:16.300 from women's sports.

01:00:18.320 The Associated Press

01:00:19.480 managed to bring race

01:00:20.600 into the controversy,

01:00:21.880 writing, quote,

01:00:22.500 for female athletes

01:00:23.520 of color,

01:00:24.620 scrutiny around

01:00:25.480 gender rules

01:00:26.460 and identity

01:00:27.020 is part of a long trend.

01:00:28.780 So now you're a racist

01:00:30.500 if you identify someone

01:00:32.720 with XY chromosomes

01:00:34.260 as male.

01:00:36.100 After the gold medal win,

01:00:37.660 Khalif was then showered

01:00:38.860 with attention,

01:00:40.360 appearing on the cover

01:00:41.220 of Vogue Arabia,

01:00:43.220 going to Milan Fashion Week

01:00:45.340 and sitting front row

01:00:46.600 at the Bottega Veneta show,

01:00:48.940 Vogue writing up

01:00:49.620 an article about it

01:00:50.420 that read,

01:00:51.460 for her foray

01:00:52.460 into high fashion,

01:00:53.800 the gold medalist

01:00:54.940 donning a mustard yellow

01:00:56.740 button-up leather shacket,

01:00:58.580 which is apparently a thing,

01:01:00.140 along with a pair

01:01:00.920 of black leather trousers.

01:01:02.600 While she left

01:01:03.260 her medal at home,

01:01:04.720 Khalif wore a pair

01:01:05.500 of the Italian house's

01:01:06.560 viral drop earrings

01:01:07.620 in gold, of course.

01:01:10.120 So that is a long wind-up

01:01:11.500 for what I'm about

01:01:12.120 to tell you.

01:01:13.280 Nearly a year after

01:01:14.480 Khalif took gold,

01:01:16.440 stole gold,

01:01:18.960 leaked lab results

01:01:20.100 confirm Khalif is male.

01:01:22.700 The lab results,

01:01:23.960 the ones that got Khalif

01:01:24.860 banned from the 2023

01:01:26.320 World Championships,

01:01:27.560 were obtained

01:01:28.140 and published

01:01:28.880 by Three Wire Sports.

01:01:30.780 It is the premier

01:01:32.020 Olympics-focused media outlet.

01:01:34.180 It's run by former NBC

01:01:35.460 and LA Times reporter

01:01:36.700 Alan Abrahamson.

01:01:39.320 Abrahamson came forward

01:01:40.540 last year, you see,

01:01:41.440 during the Olympics

01:01:42.120 to say,

01:01:43.300 look,

01:01:44.160 I personally have seen

01:01:46.000 these test results

01:01:47.960 for a main Khalif

01:01:49.880 that showed Khalif

01:01:51.240 was male,

01:01:52.880 but no one cared.

01:01:54.180 no one would listen to him.

01:01:57.140 We did.

01:01:58.400 Because unlike most

01:01:59.260 in the media,

01:02:00.180 we interviewed

01:02:01.060 Abrahamson back in August

01:02:03.180 regarding what he,

01:02:05.160 an eyewitness,

01:02:06.180 first person,

01:02:07.320 to those test results,

01:02:08.760 had seen.

01:02:09.880 Watch.

01:02:10.180 And then it says

01:02:12.200 result.

01:02:14.820 It says abnormal.

01:02:16.700 And then it says

01:02:17.800 evidence of male

01:02:19.080 karyotype.

01:02:20.780 So,

01:02:21.340 a karyotype

01:02:22.020 refers to

01:02:23.980 your chromosomal evidence.

01:02:26.080 And here it says

01:02:26.700 male,

01:02:27.460 with a capital M,

01:02:28.300 male.

01:02:30.500 Oh,

01:02:31.040 you mean the passport

01:02:31.920 wasn't the final

01:02:32.820 source?

01:02:35.180 We shouldn't have

01:02:35.900 trusted it?

01:02:36.420 Gee,

01:02:37.400 tell it to Mark Adams

01:02:38.220 of the IOC.

01:02:39.980 Now,

01:02:40.640 here is what is new.

01:02:42.300 Abrahamson has now

01:02:43.260 actually published

01:02:44.680 the results.

01:02:46.060 They state exactly

01:02:47.320 what he said

01:02:48.320 they did

01:02:48.740 on this show.

01:02:49.620 Quote,

01:02:49.980 analysis reveals

01:02:51.240 male karyotype,

01:02:53.820 which means

01:02:54.480 X,

01:02:55.460 Y,

01:02:56.060 chromosomes.

01:02:57.580 A male.

01:02:59.580 Abrahamson

01:03:00.100 is also reporting

01:03:01.200 that Khalif

01:03:01.700 is being told

01:03:02.260 by World Boxing

01:03:03.120 that he must

01:03:04.080 take a chromosome

01:03:04.780 test to prove

01:03:05.780 eligibility

01:03:06.240 before returning

01:03:07.160 to competition.

01:03:08.740 Khalif is hoping

01:03:09.340 to compete

01:03:09.780 in a boxing match

01:03:10.580 next week,

01:03:11.660 but no test,

01:03:12.660 no match.

01:03:13.820 As for Lin Yuting,

01:03:15.240 last November,

01:03:15.940 the boxer pulled out

01:03:17.020 of an international

01:03:18.120 competition in the UK

01:03:19.380 after the organizers

01:03:20.760 questioned

01:03:21.480 his gender

01:03:22.380 eligibility.

01:03:23.840 Both of these two,

01:03:24.920 when actually pressed,

01:03:26.680 saying you can't compete

01:03:28.040 because you appear

01:03:28.700 to be a male,

01:03:29.460 have not challenged it.

01:03:30.960 What does that tell you?

01:03:32.460 What does that tell you?

01:03:33.920 And what about

01:03:34.600 Khalif's gold medal?

01:03:36.420 Will he be forced

01:03:37.180 to give it back?

01:03:37.840 He should.

01:03:39.440 However,

01:03:39.840 there are zero rumblings

01:03:40.860 of that actually happening.

01:03:42.920 And Khalif has said

01:03:43.680 he plans to defend

01:03:44.560 his Olympic gold

01:03:45.380 when the games return

01:03:46.680 to Los Angeles

01:03:47.360 in 2028.

01:03:48.680 He wants all

01:03:49.440 the women's golds,

01:03:50.320 all of them,

01:03:51.120 in boxing.

01:03:52.400 And he's not worried

01:03:53.280 about President Trump's

01:03:54.120 stance on men

01:03:55.500 competing in female sports

01:03:56.700 because in March,

01:03:57.920 Khalif told ITV,

01:03:58.940 a media outlet

01:03:59.540 in the UK,

01:04:00.380 quote,

01:04:00.500 the U.S. president

01:04:01.160 issued a decision

01:04:01.980 related to transgender

01:04:03.800 policies in America.

01:04:05.360 I'm not transgender.

01:04:07.500 This does not concern me

01:04:08.760 and it does not intimidate me.

01:04:10.600 Completely skirting

01:04:11.580 the issue

01:04:12.500 that he appears

01:04:14.300 to be intersex

01:04:15.760 and irrespective

01:04:17.280 of exactly what

01:04:18.120 his particular gender

01:04:19.160 problem is,

01:04:20.400 he's a biological male,

01:04:22.640 which is the problem.

01:04:25.720 Separately,

01:04:26.320 the IOC

01:04:26.920 is about to get

01:04:28.260 a new president.

01:04:29.860 Zimbabwean

01:04:30.380 Christy Coventry

01:04:31.320 set to take over

01:04:32.240 the job on June 23rd.

01:04:33.720 She's been vocal

01:04:34.320 in her support

01:04:34.940 for a blanket ban

01:04:35.920 on men competing

01:04:37.400 in female sports

01:04:38.200 at the games.

01:04:39.140 However,

01:04:40.260 she was part of

01:04:41.220 the IOC executive board

01:04:42.400 that allowed Khalif

01:04:43.300 and Lynn Yutin

01:04:44.600 to compete

01:04:45.240 in the first place,

01:04:46.820 knowing what

01:04:47.500 they already knew

01:04:48.300 about world boxing

01:04:49.760 and them being banned.

01:04:51.760 So to all

01:04:52.720 the female boxers

01:04:53.640 training for the

01:04:54.800 next Olympics,

01:04:55.340 you better

01:04:56.180 find your voices

01:04:58.160 now to stop it

01:05:00.300 or lace up your gloves

01:05:02.280 and get ready

01:05:03.180 for a quick

01:05:04.060 and easy

01:05:04.860 and likely dangerous

01:05:06.300 knockout.

01:05:08.540 Joining me now,

01:05:10.140 Stephen A. Smith,

01:05:10.920 ESPN host

01:05:11.660 and also the host

01:05:12.480 of his own digital show,

01:05:13.480 The Stephen A. Smith Show.

01:05:15.300 Stephen A.,

01:05:15.660 great to have you back.

01:05:16.680 What do you make

01:05:17.440 of the name Khalif?

01:05:18.940 Great to see you too.

01:05:19.580 Well, first of all,

01:05:20.900 your opening monologue

01:05:22.160 was absolutely spot on.

01:05:24.080 Way to go.

01:05:25.160 There's no disagreement

01:05:26.000 here.

01:05:27.200 The, you know,

01:05:28.340 the facts are the facts

01:05:29.980 and, you know,

01:05:31.260 he has XY chromosome.

01:05:32.720 That's what the tests show.

01:05:33.940 So what you had been

01:05:35.000 saying originally

01:05:35.840 was right on point

01:05:37.540 and there's a lot

01:05:38.960 of people that owe you

01:05:39.820 an apology.

01:05:40.520 I appreciate where

01:05:41.280 you were coming from,

01:05:42.120 but I also love the fact

01:05:43.240 that you kept receipts

01:05:44.060 and you pointed out folks

01:05:45.060 that were talking

01:05:45.560 a lot of smack about you

01:05:46.700 because the reality

01:05:48.160 is that when we saw

01:05:49.420 in swimming,

01:05:50.780 for example,

01:05:51.340 with Leah Thomas

01:05:52.160 and how she,

01:05:53.500 you know,

01:05:53.940 he transitioned

01:05:54.960 into being a woman

01:05:57.220 and competing

01:05:57.940 and swimming

01:05:58.680 and ultimately

01:05:59.220 won a national championship

01:06:00.760 when it was hard

01:06:02.080 for him to be ranked

01:06:03.020 in the top 300

01:06:03.980 or 400 in the world

01:06:05.120 when you were competing

01:06:05.820 against males,

01:06:06.540 for crying out loud.

01:06:07.240 If there is a disadvantage

01:06:09.080 in swimming,

01:06:10.500 if there is a disadvantage

01:06:12.160 in something like volleyball

01:06:13.700 or whatever

01:06:14.440 or basketball,

01:06:15.780 what in God's name

01:06:16.540 makes anybody think

01:06:17.480 there wouldn't be

01:06:18.100 a decisive disadvantage

01:06:19.420 for females,

01:06:20.700 born female,

01:06:22.100 in a boxing ring?

01:06:23.300 That is a violent sport.

01:06:25.240 That is a pugilistic sport.

01:06:26.660 And so the level

01:06:27.180 of sensitivity

01:06:27.840 that you've articulated

01:06:29.480 about this subject,

01:06:31.080 I certainly never disagreed

01:06:32.800 with you on it,

01:06:33.860 but the points

01:06:34.960 that you've made

01:06:35.640 in your opening monologue,

01:06:36.740 how on point you were

01:06:38.220 and how you kept receipts

01:06:39.340 of people who attacked

01:06:40.480 you personally

01:06:41.320 for saying what you had said

01:06:43.620 when in fact

01:06:44.720 the facts have borne out

01:06:46.880 and have shown

01:06:47.500 that you were on point

01:06:48.420 more so than they do,

01:06:49.940 if they're adults,

01:06:51.280 they will come on

01:06:52.120 and they'll re-air

01:06:52.920 those tapes themselves

01:06:53.940 and they'll say she's right.

01:06:55.500 Megyn Kelly was right.

01:06:56.560 I owe her an apology.

01:06:57.880 That's not Stephen A. saying it

01:06:59.260 because I don't owe you

01:07:00.400 an apology for that

01:07:01.180 because I never disagreed

01:07:02.040 with you to begin with.

01:07:02.860 You had me on the show

01:07:03.880 at that time

01:07:04.520 discussing it

01:07:05.580 and I stand with you

01:07:06.960 on that.

01:07:07.660 You're absolutely right.

01:07:08.740 One thousand percent.

01:07:10.400 It's crazy

01:07:11.180 because it's one thing

01:07:12.140 to see these men

01:07:13.060 running in track meets

01:07:14.640 and clearly they're faster

01:07:16.280 than the women

01:07:16.960 and they can jump higher

01:07:17.800 than the women

01:07:18.340 to no one's surprise,

01:07:19.680 but it's another thing

01:07:20.680 entirely to see them

01:07:21.980 competing in rugby

01:07:24.000 or ice hockey

01:07:25.380 or field hockey

01:07:27.720 or boxing.

01:07:28.580 Physical sports.

01:07:28.880 Boxing.

01:07:30.160 Boxing for God's sake.

01:07:31.540 If we're going to allow that,

01:07:32.400 we'll allow anything.

01:07:34.040 Yeah.

01:07:34.400 Think about it.

01:07:35.060 What if Ronda Rousey

01:07:37.180 when she was fighting

01:07:38.120 in the UFC

01:07:38.840 had to go up

01:07:40.380 against a Conor McGregor

01:07:41.480 or somebody?

01:07:42.100 How would that have looked?

01:07:43.320 We see,

01:07:43.640 we got to take things

01:07:44.560 She would have gotten killed.

01:07:45.420 Yes, she would have.

01:07:46.680 And so you have to look

01:07:47.460 at things from that standpoint.

01:07:48.200 I remember one time

01:07:48.860 she joked around

01:07:49.460 and I have so much respect

01:07:50.360 for her

01:07:50.760 and what she brought

01:07:52.080 to the octagon

01:07:52.900 in her star-studded days

01:07:54.900 before she ultimately

01:07:56.400 went on a loser streak

01:07:57.360 and ultimately retired

01:07:58.200 from the sport.

01:07:59.120 I remember one time

01:08:00.020 she was talking about

01:08:01.000 fighting Floyd Money Mayweather

01:08:02.940 and I was like,

01:08:03.760 pump the brakes now.

01:08:04.720 Calm down.

01:08:05.380 Now let's pump the brakes

01:08:06.780 and calm down.

01:08:07.820 This is something

01:08:08.740 a little bit extra.

01:08:09.580 You're talking about

01:08:10.100 one of the greatest fighters

01:08:11.040 in the history of the sport

01:08:12.640 who's around your weight class

01:08:14.940 and he's a man.

01:08:16.200 He will do some things to you.

01:08:17.640 Yeah, before you could think

01:08:18.960 about grabbing him

01:08:19.780 there's things he could do.

01:08:21.080 So let's be careful

01:08:21.800 about stuff like that

01:08:22.840 but people laughed about it

01:08:24.080 and they shrugged it off

01:08:25.180 not recognizing the fact

01:08:27.200 that you had individuals

01:08:28.320 within the transgender community

01:08:29.720 that were looking

01:08:31.020 to partake in such actions

01:08:32.700 in terms of, you know,

01:08:33.900 being in a boxing ring

01:08:34.960 or being on a basketball court

01:08:36.300 or being in a swimming competition

01:08:37.640 or what have you.

01:08:39.360 You're male or you're female

01:08:41.160 and a lot of times

01:08:42.340 I think that as a black man

01:08:43.600 one of the things

01:08:44.160 that I religiously point to,

01:08:46.080 Megan, is that

01:08:46.520 it's one thing for people

01:08:48.440 for us to fight

01:08:49.460 on behalf of every human being

01:08:51.860 for their civil rights,

01:08:53.180 their civil liberties

01:08:53.940 and the right to be left alone.

01:08:56.420 But people in today's day and age

01:08:58.680 act like you have to be liked.

01:09:00.840 You know, and as a black man

01:09:02.300 I expect not to be liked

01:09:03.640 by people sometimes.

01:09:04.620 Not just because of the color

01:09:05.600 of my skin

01:09:06.000 but because they may not

01:09:06.840 like my personality or whatever.

01:09:08.380 I don't walk around

01:09:09.280 looking for approval.

01:09:10.320 I'm sure you don't.

01:09:11.480 We do what we do.

01:09:12.660 And a lot of times

01:09:13.420 you see people

01:09:14.040 from different communities

01:09:15.060 whether it would be

01:09:16.500 an ethnic community

01:09:17.660 or it would be something else

01:09:18.860 where they're looking

01:09:20.020 and demanding acceptance.

01:09:22.540 Not just approval

01:09:23.520 but acceptance.

01:09:24.900 And that's not the real world.

01:09:26.860 You know,

01:09:27.380 your civil liberties

01:09:28.260 and your right to live your life

01:09:29.640 and be what you want to be.

01:09:30.460 I said this the other day

01:09:31.360 on television

01:09:31.900 if I remember correctly.

01:09:33.100 I said, hey,

01:09:34.100 you know what?

01:09:34.640 You're a transgender athlete.

01:09:36.080 Compete against other

01:09:36.680 transgender athletes.

01:09:37.980 How about that?

01:09:38.500 Right.

01:09:38.920 There are other,

01:09:39.540 you ain't the only person

01:09:40.780 that's transitioning

01:09:42.580 that might want to be

01:09:43.380 in a boxing ring.

01:09:44.400 Find enough of them

01:09:45.200 and compete against one another.

01:09:46.900 Let the ladies compete

01:09:47.660 against the ladies.

01:09:48.300 Let the males compete

01:09:48.960 against the males

01:09:49.500 and let the transgenders

01:09:50.460 compete against the transgenders.

01:09:51.960 We understand it.

01:09:52.600 It's no problem.

01:09:53.460 It's no big deal.

01:09:54.060 Do it that way.

01:09:55.100 And I think that,

01:09:55.860 you know,

01:09:56.420 that just went in the folks' ear

01:09:57.860 and then out the other.

01:09:59.200 But I'm pointing to fairness

01:10:01.240 where there's no discrepancy.

01:10:02.840 There's nothing up in the air

01:10:04.280 making you wonder

01:10:05.400 about the fairness

01:10:06.780 of the competition.

01:10:08.540 And we also live

01:10:09.800 in a society

01:10:10.800 where for so long

01:10:12.960 we've highlighted

01:10:13.880 how women

01:10:15.920 have been mistreated.

01:10:17.220 And I'm not just talking

01:10:18.060 about stuff like

01:10:18.720 domestic violence

01:10:19.480 and things.

01:10:19.800 That is obvious.

01:10:20.560 But also in terms

01:10:22.080 of just fairness.

01:10:23.580 Title IX, for example,

01:10:24.660 exists for a reason.

01:10:26.120 Well, how do we pay

01:10:27.760 so much attention to that

01:10:29.040 to get stuff

01:10:30.520 implemented

01:10:31.660 legislatively

01:10:32.980 and what have you

01:10:34.140 and then turn around

01:10:35.100 and ignore that

01:10:36.240 with something like this?

01:10:38.300 It makes no sense

01:10:39.520 because I'm thinking

01:10:40.200 about the young ladies

01:10:41.080 out there

01:10:41.560 who have protested,

01:10:43.020 who have felt

01:10:43.800 it was grossly unfair

01:10:45.320 to them

01:10:46.180 to have to compete

01:10:47.340 under such circumstances.

01:10:48.600 And the same women

01:10:50.020 we supposedly

01:10:50.860 want to protect

01:10:51.680 so much

01:10:52.200 are the same ladies

01:10:53.500 we're ignoring

01:10:54.200 when they're making

01:10:55.440 salient points

01:10:56.460 about who they're

01:10:58.160 going up against

01:10:58.900 and how unfair

01:11:00.060 the competition is.

01:11:01.600 I don't understand it.

01:11:02.600 Let me ask you something

01:11:02.640 as a sports guy.

01:11:03.940 Yes.

01:11:05.060 You tell me,

01:11:05.700 like Caitlin Clark

01:11:06.380 is said to be

01:11:07.260 like a Michael Jordan

01:11:08.500 of women's basketball.

01:11:10.460 Steph Curry.

01:11:11.040 Steph Curry.

01:11:11.680 She's a real good,

01:11:12.380 she's a really great shooter.

01:11:13.500 Yeah.

01:11:13.960 All right.

01:11:14.200 So if you took

01:11:15.160 the actual Steph Curry

01:11:16.300 and put him up

01:11:17.980 against Caitlin

01:11:18.600 in a one-on-one contest

01:11:20.200 where they both

01:11:21.160 went at it

01:11:21.980 with all their physical gifts

01:11:24.360 and their gifts

01:11:25.120 on the basketball court,

01:11:26.220 what would happen?

01:11:28.140 Well, the likelihood

01:11:28.880 is that she would lose,

01:11:30.260 but it's less harmful

01:11:32.140 because if, for example,

01:11:34.620 Sabrina Unescu

01:11:35.440 showed up all-star weekend

01:11:37.440 and she competed

01:11:38.040 against Steph Curry

01:11:38.840 in a three-point

01:11:39.460 shooting contest, right?

01:11:40.640 And it was a really

01:11:41.780 ratings bonanza

01:11:42.720 and it came across

01:11:45.380 very, very well,

01:11:46.280 but they were just

01:11:46.880 shooting the basketball.

01:11:47.880 I saw that.

01:11:48.700 I saw that.

01:11:49.760 And by the way,

01:11:50.840 she lost to Steph Curry,

01:11:52.620 but she had tied

01:11:53.980 or beaten

01:11:54.640 all the other males

01:11:56.480 in terms of their score

01:11:58.000 that they had registered

01:11:58.980 before her and Steph Curry

01:12:00.400 showed up on the court.

01:12:01.520 So you're talking

01:12:02.340 about shooting the basketball.

01:12:03.620 It's not that big of a deal.

01:12:04.640 But if you're talking

01:12:05.480 about competing

01:12:06.360 against one another,

01:12:07.600 where physicality

01:12:08.560 comes into play,

01:12:09.440 the likelihood

01:12:09.880 is that she's going

01:12:10.680 to be at a decisive disadvantage.

01:12:12.620 And I'll give you

01:12:13.180 another example.

01:12:14.100 Dave Chappelle

01:12:14.720 joked about this.

01:12:15.940 He joked about this

01:12:16.780 and the transgender community,

01:12:18.420 if I recall,

01:12:19.020 were up in arms about this.

01:12:21.080 Dave Chappelle,

01:12:22.320 the noted comedian,

01:12:23.300 said,

01:12:24.040 what if LeBron James,

01:12:25.740 essentially,

01:12:26.040 I'm paraphrasing here,

01:12:27.060 what if LeBron James

01:12:28.040 had decided to transition

01:12:29.300 to being a woman?

01:12:31.720 He'd average

01:12:32.480 800 points a game.

01:12:34.560 Who's going to stop him?

01:12:36.160 You know,

01:12:36.440 that's what he brought up.

01:12:38.020 He said,

01:12:38.220 so we think

01:12:39.580 that we're being fair.

01:12:41.880 We think that we're being

01:12:43.020 okay with our thinking,

01:12:44.280 but we're not taking

01:12:45.360 it into total consideration

01:12:48.480 in terms of how

01:12:49.320 it really,

01:12:49.740 really registers with us.

01:12:50.740 And so when somebody

01:12:51.320 like you comes along

01:12:52.300 and you're very,

01:12:53.520 very passionate about it

01:12:54.780 and you're going at folks

01:12:56.300 for okaying this stuff,

01:12:57.560 they want to attack you.

01:12:59.280 And I'm sitting there

01:13:00.160 saying to myself,

01:13:00.820 you can't find

01:13:02.140 something better to do.

01:13:03.180 I mean,

01:13:03.560 listen,

01:13:04.020 Megyn Kelly's on a game,

01:13:05.020 but you certainly

01:13:06.400 ain't going to win

01:13:06.820 this argument

01:13:07.400 because we're watching

01:13:08.860 and we see,

01:13:10.180 I mean,

01:13:10.460 who couldn't see

01:13:11.500 that you were right?

01:13:13.140 It was people

01:13:14.020 who didn't want to see

01:13:15.380 and that's the real problem.

01:13:17.780 You didn't want to see it

01:13:19.180 so you ignored the facts

01:13:20.740 and Megyn Kelly

01:13:21.840 wanted to see it

01:13:22.620 and you have it.

01:13:23.660 It was like Joe Biden.

01:13:23.960 It was like Biden's

01:13:24.640 mental infirmity.

01:13:25.540 You know,

01:13:25.820 we saw it.

01:13:27.480 You didn't need an expert.

01:13:28.900 You didn't need

01:13:29.280 a medical diagnosis.

01:13:30.940 You didn't need

01:13:31.640 Tapper and Thompson

01:13:32.540 with the big revealing book.

01:13:34.260 You just needed

01:13:35.140 eyes and ears.

01:13:36.180 Same thing with this male boxer

01:13:37.800 was very obvious

01:13:39.020 taking a look at him.

01:13:40.500 I do want to just mention this

01:13:41.720 to the audience.

01:13:42.280 They know this story,

01:13:43.020 but it's just so telling.

01:13:46.040 After my daughter

01:13:46.940 was misinformed

01:13:47.700 by her teacher

01:13:48.580 that there are only 10

01:13:49.660 of these trans athletes

01:13:51.140 competing in women's sports,

01:13:52.320 which is not true,

01:13:53.420 I wrote her

01:13:54.340 a very long note

01:13:55.940 setting the record straight

01:13:57.500 and giving her

01:13:58.220 the actual facts

01:13:59.160 so she would not be misled

01:14:00.820 by this person

01:14:01.740 with an agenda.

01:14:02.840 And at the end

01:14:03.360 of the note,

01:14:04.700 I included the following

01:14:05.620 because it's true.

01:14:07.000 In 1998,

01:14:08.420 Serena and Venus Williams

01:14:09.480 said they could beat

01:14:10.280 any male player

01:14:11.240 outside of the top 200 men.

01:14:14.380 Karsten Broshk

01:14:15.600 ranked 203rd

01:14:17.440 in the world,

01:14:18.700 and they were in the top 10,

01:14:19.760 both of them at the time,

01:14:20.820 in the women's,

01:14:21.560 took up the challenge

01:14:22.760 and easily beat

01:14:24.120 both sisters,

01:14:25.180 6-1, 6-2.

01:14:26.980 It crushed them.

01:14:28.260 In 2017,

01:14:29.220 the U.S. Women's

01:14:30.420 National Soccer Team

01:14:31.220 agreed to play

01:14:31.880 a Dallas-Texas

01:14:32.760 under-15 boys team.

01:14:35.260 Under-15.

01:14:36.020 So we're talking

01:14:36.300 about 14-year-olds.

01:14:37.380 These must be

01:14:37.940 8th graders.

01:14:40.020 And lost.

01:14:41.340 Okay,

01:14:41.580 the U.S. Women's

01:14:42.260 National Soccer Team

01:14:42.880 lost 5-2

01:14:45.260 against a bunch

01:14:46.320 of 14-year-olds.

01:14:47.640 It happened again

01:14:48.400 in 2023

01:14:49.040 when a group

01:14:49.740 of 18-20-year-old men,

01:14:51.640 amateurs,

01:14:52.740 beat a collection

01:14:53.440 of women's

01:14:54.060 all-star,

01:14:55.400 former national players,

01:14:56.960 5-0.

01:14:58.260 And there's just

01:14:59.640 no question

01:15:00.500 that male advantage

01:15:02.120 in sport is real.

01:15:03.900 And if we continue

01:15:04.800 pretending,

01:15:05.420 especially in the

01:15:06.080 contact sports,

01:15:06.840 that it isn't,

01:15:07.720 I'm telling you,

01:15:08.560 it's just a matter

01:15:09.160 of time

01:15:09.540 before a woman

01:15:10.720 gets killed.

01:15:12.000 It's just a matter

01:15:12.940 of time.

01:15:13.840 Well, first of all,

01:15:14.600 again,

01:15:15.100 you're absolutely right.

01:15:16.540 Clarissa Shields

01:15:17.500 is a fabulous boxer.

01:15:19.360 Layla Ali,

01:15:20.380 the wonderful,

01:15:21.220 marvelous daughter

01:15:21.880 of the late,

01:15:22.640 great Muhammad Ali,

01:15:23.920 was a marvelous fighter.

01:15:25.500 you don't want

01:15:27.120 to put them

01:15:27.760 in the ring

01:15:28.360 with a male

01:15:29.800 in their weight class

01:15:31.200 to box.

01:15:32.480 That would be a problem.

01:15:34.040 You know,

01:15:34.400 there's no question

01:15:35.300 about that.

01:15:35.820 And you have to take

01:15:36.360 that into consideration

01:15:37.220 as well.

01:15:37.760 And in terms of

01:15:38.380 what your daughter

01:15:39.400 was informed about,

01:15:41.080 that statement

01:15:42.160 about no,

01:15:43.660 you know,

01:15:44.140 no less than 10

01:15:45.580 transgender athletes,

01:15:47.320 that statement

01:15:48.260 came directly

01:15:49.320 from the president

01:15:50.440 of the NCAA

01:15:51.480 at the time,

01:15:52.860 just so you know.

01:15:54.300 No, I'm aware.

01:15:55.120 I'm aware,

01:15:55.520 which is also not right

01:15:56.480 because also,

01:15:57.940 and this is another thing

01:15:59.000 that we discussed,

01:16:00.520 an LGBTQ group

01:16:05.000 actually came out

01:16:05.920 with the numbers.

01:16:07.000 And first of all,

01:16:07.980 they said that

01:16:09.340 Out Sports said,

01:16:10.460 if anything,

01:16:11.280 the numbers of trans athletes

01:16:12.340 in the NCAA

01:16:12.860 are being understated

01:16:13.980 because a lot of them

01:16:14.920 are not out as trans.

01:16:16.500 They don't want to be out

01:16:17.480 because they don't want

01:16:18.060 to be the next

01:16:18.520 Amin Khalif or Leah Thomas.

01:16:20.260 They just want to win

01:16:20.920 the medals quietly

01:16:22.120 pretending to be women

01:16:23.020 and the schools

01:16:23.820 are only too happy

01:16:24.460 to let them

01:16:25.000 because a lot of these schools

01:16:26.960 enjoy the fact

01:16:28.180 that they're beneficiaries

01:16:29.580 of the male advantage.

01:16:30.780 The men can win

01:16:31.800 more easily than the women

01:16:32.720 and these schools

01:16:33.720 are like,

01:16:34.140 great,

01:16:34.480 it's just another gold medal

01:16:35.380 for us.

01:16:36.320 But then it goes on

01:16:37.420 to say that,

01:16:38.120 my note,

01:16:40.180 when I did my research,

01:16:41.320 UCLA School of Law

01:16:42.720 put out these estimates

01:16:43.680 in just this past February,

01:16:45.000 2025.

01:16:45.940 We estimate that there

01:16:46.640 are as many as

01:16:47.180 122,000

01:16:49.080 transgender youth

01:16:50.460 ages 13 to 14

01:16:51.860 who could be participating

01:16:53.260 in high school level

01:16:54.620 team athletics.

01:16:57.140 122,000.

01:16:59.540 So,

01:17:00.040 which would explain

01:17:01.120 all we've seen

01:17:02.020 this past weekend alone

01:17:02.980 in California

01:17:03.600 and in Oregon

01:17:05.120 and Washington State.

01:17:06.200 And I didn't even mention,

01:17:07.060 listen to this one,

01:17:08.080 Minnesota,

01:17:09.500 a girls' softball team

01:17:11.220 which could not win,

01:17:13.160 Stephen A.

01:17:13.480 They thought that this team

01:17:14.720 was like cursed.

01:17:17.180 Champlin Park.

01:17:18.640 Well,

01:17:19.280 guess what?

01:17:20.040 They're now headed

01:17:20.640 to the state tournament

01:17:21.560 for the first time.

01:17:22.740 Yay,

01:17:22.960 everybody's so excited.

01:17:24.540 How did it happen?

01:17:25.940 I'll tell you how it happened.

01:17:27.320 There is a pitcher

01:17:28.540 who goes by

01:17:29.780 Marissa

01:17:30.620 who is

01:17:32.020 a man.

01:17:33.700 His actual name

01:17:34.720 is Charlie Dean.

01:17:36.060 He now goes by

01:17:37.100 Melissa Rothenberger.

01:17:38.760 Here he is

01:17:39.360 pitching

01:17:40.080 and crushing it.

01:17:42.140 And now

01:17:43.540 this guy

01:17:44.400 is going to carry

01:17:45.360 Champlin Park

01:17:46.320 all the way

01:17:46.920 to the state tournament.

01:17:48.160 And here,

01:17:48.840 for the first time ever,

01:17:50.160 here,

01:17:50.520 by the way,

01:17:50.860 he pitched

01:17:51.540 all seven innings

01:17:52.640 in both games.

01:17:53.820 It was a 14,

01:17:55.120 it was 14 shutout innings

01:17:57.100 against the defending

01:17:58.460 state champions

01:18:00.040 that this guy pitched.

01:18:01.620 And here's the coverage

01:18:02.520 from the Minneapolis

01:18:03.160 Star Tribune.

01:18:04.180 The ending could scarcely

01:18:05.540 have been more fitting.

01:18:06.780 The Champlin Park

01:18:07.420 softball team,

01:18:08.760 perennial bridesmaids

01:18:09.960 for most of the past decade,

01:18:11.840 finally scaled a hump

01:18:13.020 that had grown mountainous,

01:18:15.000 leaning on the right arm

01:18:16.380 of lanky junior pitcher

01:18:18.520 Marissa Rothenberger

01:18:20.020 to defeat Rogers 1-0

01:18:21.800 in the Class 4A

01:18:22.820 Section 5 Championship

01:18:23.780 on Thursday.

01:18:25.020 Rothenberger was

01:18:26.000 masterful.

01:18:27.720 What's missing

01:18:28.260 from the coverage?

01:18:29.400 The fact that this is a boy

01:18:30.700 posing as a girl

01:18:32.040 with all the male advantage

01:18:33.600 that comes to any boy.

01:18:35.020 Of course he was masterful.

01:18:37.100 I knew nothing

01:18:38.420 of that story.

01:18:39.920 Shame on me.

01:18:40.560 What I would tell you

01:18:41.740 is that had I been

01:18:43.600 the one covering that story,

01:18:45.240 it would have been

01:18:46.500 a lot different

01:18:47.220 than what you just read

01:18:48.520 because of what you highlighted.

01:18:51.480 It's a boy.

01:18:52.840 And this is the thing

01:18:54.080 that I think is very,

01:18:55.120 very important

01:18:55.640 for us to understand,

01:18:56.800 Megan.

01:18:58.120 You have folks out there

01:18:59.860 from the transgender community

01:19:02.380 and those who support

01:19:03.720 the transgender community

01:19:04.940 that are looking at subject

01:19:07.540 matters like this

01:19:08.900 as an indictment

01:19:10.860 against them

01:19:11.680 instead of seeing it

01:19:13.420 the way that I see it

01:19:14.580 and I think the way

01:19:15.960 that you see it,

01:19:17.340 which is pointing out

01:19:18.680 how unfair it is

01:19:21.420 to the young ladies

01:19:22.880 competing against them.

01:19:24.680 And so when we bring it home

01:19:26.400 to that point,

01:19:27.540 that's where our sensitivity

01:19:29.500 needs to elevate.

01:19:30.900 There are a bunch

01:19:32.660 of young ladies

01:19:33.520 out there

01:19:34.100 in the world of sports,

01:19:36.360 born ladies,

01:19:37.900 naturally,

01:19:38.760 they're female,

01:19:39.720 and they've worked

01:19:40.780 their tails off

01:19:41.900 to compete.

01:19:43.800 We have laws

01:19:45.040 like Title IX

01:19:46.080 in effect

01:19:46.620 to ensure

01:19:47.440 that fairness

01:19:48.220 and equity

01:19:48.740 is accorded

01:19:49.520 to these young ladies.

01:19:50.740 and then all of a sudden

01:19:52.640 this kind of issue

01:19:54.660 has come about

01:19:55.520 where that's being circumvented

01:19:57.960 and the people

01:19:59.120 that are circumventing

01:20:00.360 the rules

01:20:01.020 are finding a way

01:20:03.420 or folks are finding

01:20:04.580 a way to make them

01:20:05.700 look like victims

01:20:06.740 instead of the young ladies

01:20:08.800 who are having

01:20:10.860 their level of competition

01:20:12.160 compromised

01:20:12.780 because they're not going up

01:20:14.380 against other young ladies.

01:20:15.820 It doesn't matter

01:20:16.800 whether it's 10,

01:20:18.100 100,

01:20:18.800 120,

01:20:19.460 200 or whatever.

01:20:21.260 What matters

01:20:21.840 is that it shouldn't happen.

01:20:23.740 Males should compete

01:20:24.440 against males.

01:20:25.220 Females should compete

01:20:25.940 against females.

01:20:26.880 Transgenders should compete

01:20:27.900 against transgenders.

01:20:29.860 It's just that simple

01:20:30.900 because that's what

01:20:32.200 you're talking about,

01:20:32.980 fairness and equity

01:20:33.640 and competition.

01:20:34.620 Let's take gambling

01:20:35.500 into consideration.

01:20:36.460 If you were

01:20:38.100 in a position

01:20:39.060 where you had

01:20:40.240 the prowess

01:20:41.160 as an athlete

01:20:43.220 to dictate an outcome

01:20:44.700 and you

01:20:46.100 gambled

01:20:47.460 on your own sport

01:20:48.800 or gambled

01:20:49.640 against your team

01:20:50.700 or whatever it was

01:20:52.000 to compromise competition,

01:20:53.860 you'd be banned

01:20:54.680 because the issue

01:20:56.820 of competition

01:20:57.660 comes raining through.

01:20:59.160 It's very prolific.

01:21:00.420 It's very potent.

01:21:01.440 You can't do that

01:21:02.520 because anything

01:21:04.200 that compromises competition

01:21:06.160 in any way

01:21:07.220 threatens to compromise

01:21:08.720 the overall integrity

01:21:09.820 of the sport.

01:21:10.880 If we're thinking

01:21:12.180 that way

01:21:12.700 about issues like that,

01:21:14.440 how could you not

01:21:15.200 think about that

01:21:15.880 with issues like this?

01:21:16.940 It makes no sense.

01:21:18.780 You know, today,

01:21:19.380 before we came on the air,

01:21:20.500 I was on X

01:21:21.080 and I saw a video.

01:21:22.460 You probably know

01:21:23.060 this story,

01:21:24.380 but I have no idea.

01:21:25.360 I don't follow sports,

01:21:26.180 as you know,

01:21:26.500 but it was a guy

01:21:27.760 at like the triple A

01:21:28.840 league level

01:21:29.580 in baseball

01:21:30.160 who played for,

01:21:31.100 he had a shirt

01:21:31.660 that read Tacoma.

01:21:33.280 So I guess he's

01:21:33.940 Tacoma, Washington.

01:21:34.920 And he was notified

01:21:36.540 by the coach

01:21:38.380 of his team

01:21:39.080 that he wasn't

01:21:40.100 going to be there

01:21:40.740 the next day

01:21:41.600 because he'd been

01:21:42.600 called up

01:21:43.160 to the big show

01:21:44.760 to go play

01:21:45.640 for Seattle.

01:21:46.620 And it was just

01:21:47.440 this really sweet moment

01:21:48.660 as sports,

01:21:49.440 as you know,

01:21:50.020 like this is the stuff

01:21:51.100 that can draw somebody

01:21:51.900 like me into sports

01:21:52.980 where, you know,

01:21:54.040 somebody who's worked

01:21:54.940 that hard makes it.

01:21:57.080 They make it,

01:21:57.880 you know,

01:21:58.080 and you see him

01:21:59.100 like stunned

01:22:00.180 when he gets the news

01:22:01.180 he's been called up

01:22:01.900 and every guy

01:22:02.820 on the team

01:22:03.360 is giving him

01:22:04.180 a huge hug

01:22:05.180 and a high five.

01:22:06.240 They're all so happy

01:22:07.400 for him.

01:22:07.840 This is like

01:22:08.320 all of their dream.

01:22:10.200 And that to me,

01:22:11.300 like separate and apart

01:22:12.060 from the fact

01:22:12.500 that somebody's

01:22:12.960 going to get hurt

01:22:13.520 or worse

01:22:14.220 and the fact

01:22:15.600 that it's just not fair,

01:22:17.040 you know,

01:22:17.340 to make them compete

01:22:18.300 against somebody

01:22:18.780 who has so many advantages

01:22:19.800 that they don't have.

01:22:20.880 I just feel like

01:22:21.900 you're denying

01:22:22.640 these girls

01:22:23.480 the glorious joy

01:22:24.760 of winning,

01:22:26.800 of excellence,

01:22:28.100 of being the one

01:22:30.460 to get that tap

01:22:31.900 on the shoulder,

01:22:32.860 not having to share

01:22:34.280 the top podium.

01:22:35.940 You know what I mean?

01:22:36.900 That's fair

01:22:37.460 because it's what

01:22:37.960 you play for.

01:22:38.540 And that's what

01:22:39.600 it's what you play for.

01:22:40.460 Love sports, right?

01:22:41.160 You explain it to me.

01:22:42.440 Part of the joy

01:22:43.220 of watching sports

01:22:44.280 is to see that moment.

01:22:46.680 Not everybody's a winner.

01:22:48.600 Not participation trophy.

01:22:50.220 There are real,

01:22:51.200 actual winners

01:22:51.820 that show who's best.

01:22:53.840 I'll give you an example

01:22:54.760 that's closer to home.

01:22:57.160 So I think it was 2017

01:22:59.200 was the year.

01:23:00.060 It was a trash can

01:23:01.960 controversy in baseball.

01:23:04.300 And essentially,

01:23:05.300 the Houston Astros

01:23:06.100 was in the postseason

01:23:07.140 for Major League Baseball.

01:23:08.540 They're going against

01:23:09.220 the Yankees.

01:23:10.280 And then ultimately,

01:23:11.040 they're going against

01:23:11.740 the Dodgers.

01:23:13.160 And, you know,

01:23:14.500 when they capture

01:23:15.280 the championship,

01:23:16.440 what they would do

01:23:17.420 is they would make

01:23:18.260 these sounds,

01:23:19.980 Megan,

01:23:20.400 on the trash can

01:23:21.560 to give you an indication

01:23:22.980 of what pitch

01:23:23.780 was being thrown

01:23:24.660 or what happened.

01:23:26.060 They would, like,

01:23:26.540 give you a heads up.

01:23:28.280 And so,

01:23:29.020 it was acknowledged,

01:23:31.860 but you had people

01:23:33.000 thinking that their championship

01:23:34.440 should have been confiscated.

01:23:35.660 You had a New York Yankees

01:23:36.720 team that thought

01:23:37.220 they would have been

01:23:37.680 in the World Series.

01:23:38.440 You had a Dodgers team

01:23:39.260 that thought they should

01:23:39.820 have been the champions,

01:23:40.980 okay,

01:23:41.380 and that their level

01:23:42.520 of success was compromised

01:23:43.720 because somehow,

01:23:45.480 some way,

01:23:46.060 it gave them

01:23:46.780 an unfair advantage.

01:23:47.940 My only point

01:23:48.720 in bringing that up,

01:23:50.060 you can bring up

01:23:50.500 trash cans,

01:23:51.520 you can bring up

01:23:51.880 gambling,

01:23:53.020 you can bring up

01:23:53.640 performance-enhancing

01:23:54.620 drug use,

01:23:55.920 anything,

01:23:56.700 and I mean anything,

01:23:58.760 that we deem

01:23:59.780 in our society

01:24:00.760 that compromises

01:24:02.320 fair competition

01:24:04.220 is called out.

01:24:06.100 It's condemned.

01:24:07.500 Which is why,

01:24:08.580 for the life of me,

01:24:09.380 I couldn't understand

01:24:10.540 how when you were going off

01:24:12.860 about Khalif

01:24:14.140 in the boxing ring,

01:24:15.460 and remember,

01:24:16.560 she hit,

01:24:17.220 he,

01:24:17.840 she hit

01:24:18.820 her competitor

01:24:20.900 with one shot,

01:24:22.700 one shot,

01:24:23.740 and she said,

01:24:24.240 uh-uh,

01:24:24.880 this is not normal.

01:24:26.320 I've never been hit

01:24:27.380 like that before.

01:24:28.380 Now, in fairness,

01:24:29.780 I've seen male boxes

01:24:30.880 like when George Foreman,

01:24:31.860 the late,

01:24:32.180 great George Foreman

01:24:32.760 got arrested,

01:24:33.200 so he hit some people,

01:24:34.480 I mean,

01:24:34.820 they ain't never been

01:24:35.500 hit like that either,

01:24:36.340 and they were males.

01:24:37.180 I mean,

01:24:37.440 one time,

01:24:38.260 Joe Frazier turned around

01:24:39.320 and ran from him,

01:24:40.060 and he knocked him

01:24:40.780 upside,

01:24:41.120 literally on the top

01:24:41.860 of his head,

01:24:42.440 and dropped him.

01:24:43.100 He dropped him

01:24:43.620 about six,

01:24:44.180 seven times,

01:24:44.720 okay?

01:24:45.240 Nobody's one of

01:24:45.900 the most powerful

01:24:46.740 punches in the history

01:24:47.460 of boxing,

01:24:48.040 so we understand that,

01:24:49.460 but clearly,

01:24:50.260 you're looking at Khalif,

01:24:51.620 and you're seeing

01:24:52.260 somebody who looks male,

01:24:54.220 you're seeing somebody

01:24:55.300 that feels like

01:24:56.420 she's a male,

01:24:57.160 you have a competitor

01:24:58.340 going against us

01:24:59.200 swearing she was a male,

01:25:00.800 you talked,

01:25:01.420 you called it out,

01:25:02.360 and then the evidence

01:25:04.340 is proven that you were right.

01:25:05.840 My point is,

01:25:07.480 all of these little things

01:25:08.620 that you could point to

01:25:09.500 are things that we

01:25:11.300 wholeheartedly condemn

01:25:12.760 in sports.

01:25:14.660 Anything that compromises

01:25:16.420 legitimate competition,

01:25:18.320 we called out.

01:25:19.400 So I don't understand

01:25:20.360 for the life of me

01:25:21.080 how a whole bunch of people

01:25:22.220 were against you

01:25:23.460 on this issue,

01:25:24.320 when you look

01:25:25.360 and you saw

01:25:26.120 what you saw.

01:25:27.500 I don't get it.

01:25:28.200 I really, really don't.

01:25:29.240 It doesn't make sense.

01:25:29.840 It's ideology,

01:25:30.820 it's an attempt by some

01:25:32.060 to be empathetic,

01:25:33.920 but it's like,

01:25:35.120 where's your empathy

01:25:35.740 for the girls?

01:25:36.580 Where's your empathy

01:25:37.240 for the women

01:25:37.800 who are in danger

01:25:38.840 fighting this kind of thing?

01:25:39.380 That's the argument

01:25:40.000 to make.

01:25:40.580 That's the argument.

01:25:41.220 Standby.

01:25:41.440 I'm going to take

01:25:41.960 a quick break,

01:25:42.720 and we're going to come back

01:25:43.820 and turn the page

01:25:45.200 from this issue.

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01:28:44.260 You would think

01:28:45.240 after all of the waves,

01:28:47.100 Kate Baldwin,

01:28:47.720 after the last few months,

01:28:48.760 the first five months

01:28:49.760 of the Donald Trump presidency,

01:28:51.280 that you expect

01:28:51.800 that Democrats

01:28:52.460 would have this massive lead

01:28:53.700 on the economy.

01:28:54.920 It ain't so.

01:28:55.720 It ain't so.

01:28:56.480 The party that is closest

01:28:57.460 to your economic views,

01:28:58.780 in November of 2023,

01:29:00.020 it was the Republicans

01:29:00.620 by 11 points.

01:29:01.760 Now it's still

01:29:02.620 within that range,

01:29:03.380 still within that margin of error,

01:29:04.960 plus eight point advantage

01:29:06.360 for the Republican Party.

01:29:07.920 How is that possible,

01:29:09.160 Democrats?

01:29:09.580 How is that possible

01:29:10.480 after all the recession fears,

01:29:12.080 after the stock market's

01:29:13.160 been doing all of this,

01:29:14.380 after all the terrorists

01:29:15.420 that Americans are against,

01:29:16.520 and Republicans still hold

01:29:17.640 an eight point lead

01:29:18.500 on the economy?

01:29:19.340 Are you kidding me?

01:29:20.420 Take a look at Reuters' Ipsos.

01:29:22.160 What do we see here?

01:29:23.320 Party with a better economic plan.

01:29:25.240 Well, in May of 2024,

01:29:26.660 Republicans had a nine point advantage.

01:29:28.520 Look at where we are now

01:29:29.500 in May of 2025.

01:29:31.380 The advantage actually went up

01:29:33.240 by three points.

01:29:34.280 Now Republicans have a 12 point advantage

01:29:36.580 when it comes to the party

01:29:37.900 with a better economic plan.

01:29:39.860 Welcome back to the Megyn Kelly Show.

01:29:41.420 Here with me now,

01:29:42.100 Stephen A. Smith,

01:29:42.820 host of the Stephen A. Smith Show.

01:29:45.400 So Trump's numbers

01:29:46.220 are going up across the board.

01:29:47.740 Republicans' numbers are going up

01:29:49.060 when it comes to the economy.

01:29:50.420 Which was a shocker,

01:29:52.340 you could see there,

01:29:53.100 to the CNN team.

01:29:55.400 Love that, Harry Enten.

01:29:56.560 But they thought it would go down

01:29:57.920 because of the tariffs

01:29:58.700 and all the coverage of Trump

01:30:00.460 on the economy so far

01:30:01.740 has been negative,

01:30:02.620 saying he doesn't know

01:30:03.140 what he's doing

01:30:03.640 and why isn't he fighting prices.

01:30:05.240 Meanwhile, inflation's down.

01:30:06.760 I think it's 2.3% now.

01:30:08.700 In any event,

01:30:09.380 what do you make of the turn

01:30:10.660 in fortunes for him?

01:30:12.320 We talked about in the first hour,

01:30:13.600 Trafalgar now has him up

01:30:15.140 eight percentage points

01:30:16.360 in his approval rating

01:30:17.280 to a net of 54%,

01:30:18.960 which he's never hit before.

01:30:21.660 Well, to me,

01:30:22.380 it's an indictment

01:30:23.020 against the Democratic Party.

01:30:24.300 And I think that a lot of times

01:30:25.780 people are looking at me, Megan,

01:30:27.040 and they're saying,

01:30:27.780 well, you know what,

01:30:28.280 he's just attacking Democrats

01:30:29.740 or what have you.

01:30:30.760 And I said,

01:30:31.560 it's not just that simple.

01:30:33.600 And I'm going to tell you this, Megan,

01:30:35.560 and I never had this conversation

01:30:37.060 with you before,

01:30:37.920 but I think that

01:30:38.760 what people don't realize

01:30:40.820 is that

01:30:41.480 as a black man,

01:30:44.400 you do find yourself

01:30:45.760 getting offended

01:30:46.640 at what we've seen

01:30:49.460 from the Democratic Party.

01:30:51.020 So since 1964,

01:30:52.540 since you had Civil Rights Act

01:30:54.040 and then ultimately

01:30:54.600 the Voting Rights Act

01:30:55.560 and then, you know,

01:30:56.500 the Fair Housing in 1968

01:30:58.140 and stuff like that,

01:30:59.640 we heard quotes supposedly,

01:31:02.020 purportedly,

01:31:02.540 from Lyndon B. Johnson

01:31:03.340 at the time that,

01:31:04.140 you know what,

01:31:04.460 we passed this in the law

01:31:06.180 that we'll have the Negroes

01:31:07.580 voting for us

01:31:08.220 for the next 200 years.

01:31:10.260 Well, it's been over 50,

01:31:11.940 over 60, actually.

01:31:13.380 And for the most part,

01:31:14.660 they've been right.

01:31:15.820 And so when you,

01:31:17.320 I've often said this,

01:31:19.180 because we've been

01:31:20.660 so transparent

01:31:21.620 in our support

01:31:22.400 for the Democratic Party,

01:31:24.360 there's a reason

01:31:25.100 why the black community

01:31:26.300 by and large

01:31:27.260 has been considered

01:31:28.140 disenfranchised.

01:31:29.420 Because on one hand,

01:31:30.500 we have a party

01:31:31.220 that takes us for granted

01:31:32.200 because they know

01:31:32.840 they're going to get our vote

01:31:33.900 and they never really,

01:31:34.720 really had to cater to us.

01:31:36.100 And on the other side,

01:31:37.220 we've alienated

01:31:38.140 a party

01:31:38.660 who, by the way,

01:31:40.040 played a role

01:31:40.940 in pushing civil rights

01:31:42.260 and voting rights legislation

01:31:43.340 in the law in the 60s.

01:31:44.660 And we basically said,

01:31:46.020 we basically said,

01:31:47.000 to hell with you.

01:31:47.640 So as a result,

01:31:48.400 they turned around and said,

01:31:49.180 we're not going to have

01:31:49.780 their support anyway.

01:31:51.020 So you have one party

01:31:52.240 taking us for granted.

01:31:53.040 You have another party

01:31:54.080 assuming they'll never

01:31:55.040 get our support

01:31:55.680 and we get no representation.

01:31:57.640 What I like about

01:31:58.540 what's transpiring right now

01:32:00.160 with Trump's ascension

01:32:02.080 or return to the White House,

01:32:03.620 what I do like

01:32:04.520 about what has transpired

01:32:06.320 is that it's put

01:32:07.460 the Democratic Party

01:32:08.460 in a position

01:32:09.300 where you no longer

01:32:10.640 get to take us

01:32:11.600 or various communities

01:32:12.860 for granted.

01:32:14.400 You got to go out there

01:32:15.380 and earn our vote.

01:32:16.700 You can't get moralistic

01:32:17.860 and sit on your

01:32:19.660 sanctimonious chair

01:32:20.600 and acting as if

01:32:21.740 you're above reproach.

01:32:23.300 I watched you

01:32:24.060 and I've watched you

01:32:24.980 interview many, many people.

01:32:26.240 And again,

01:32:26.520 I don't agree with you

01:32:27.240 100% of the time.

01:32:28.020 I don't expect you

01:32:28.460 to agree with me

01:32:29.060 100% of the time.

01:32:30.240 But I respect the hell

01:32:31.080 out of your integrity

01:32:31.840 and what you bring

01:32:32.520 to your show every day.

01:32:33.420 And I watch it

01:32:34.040 every chance I get

01:32:34.880 to be quite honest with you

01:32:35.880 because I'm always

01:32:36.700 learning something.

01:32:37.800 But I love how

01:32:38.860 you are not afraid

01:32:40.700 to hold people accountable

01:32:43.000 on a personal level

01:32:44.920 in terms of how

01:32:45.840 they make you feel

01:32:47.020 about things

01:32:48.500 that they say,

01:32:49.400 the policies

01:32:49.980 that they push forth,

01:32:51.180 the things that

01:32:51.640 they've tried to implement.

01:32:52.940 And that's what

01:32:53.500 I'm paying attention to now.

01:32:55.140 Do I like Doge

01:32:56.660 with Elon Musk

01:32:58.080 and his sore

01:32:58.960 and what he was

01:32:59.660 and how he was?

01:33:00.160 I don't like that visual.

01:33:01.220 I sense a flagrant

01:33:03.920 level of insensitivity

01:33:05.240 to federal employees

01:33:07.500 and others

01:33:08.160 who rely on those jobs

01:33:10.460 and what have you.

01:33:11.500 But with $37 trillion

01:33:12.940 in debt,

01:33:14.260 there is no question

01:33:15.420 that waste, fraud,

01:33:16.980 et cetera, exist

01:33:17.840 and it needed

01:33:18.460 to be addressed.

01:33:19.860 Did he do the right things?

01:33:21.400 Did he point out

01:33:22.220 the right targets?

01:33:23.040 I don't know.

01:33:24.480 History will show us

01:33:25.520 whether he was accurate

01:33:26.520 in doing so or not.

01:33:27.840 We're looking at Trump,

01:33:29.300 his war on tariffs.

01:33:30.120 I told you from Jump Street,

01:33:31.460 Megan, I didn't like that.

01:33:32.520 I didn't like the fact

01:33:33.040 that he was going after everybody.

01:33:33.760 Go out to China.

01:33:34.480 Go out to China.

01:33:35.040 Go out to China.

01:33:35.660 But don't turn allies

01:33:36.920 into enemies

01:33:37.620 that could potentially

01:33:38.280 side with China.

01:33:39.260 He made me nervous with that.

01:33:40.600 Now, again, I don't know.

01:33:42.100 It's what I was seeing

01:33:43.040 and saying, wait a minute,

01:33:43.880 I'm a bit worried here.

01:33:44.960 Don't know if this is accurate or not.

01:33:46.760 But then when I see

01:33:47.820 so many pundits from the left

01:33:49.680 and they're talking about

01:33:50.460 how awful all of this was,

01:33:52.360 I took the liberty

01:33:53.400 of just looking at some things

01:33:55.380 and I'm saying, you know what?

01:33:56.360 You're not going to cut

01:33:57.200 but so much into spending

01:33:59.080 when it's $37 trillion in debt.

01:34:01.660 You're creating new jobs.

01:34:03.060 You got $8 trillion

01:34:03.960 in commitments from corporations, okay?

01:34:06.040 You got oil that's, you know,

01:34:07.680 we're drilling here

01:34:09.360 in the States as they say.

01:34:10.760 There's a plethora of other things

01:34:12.060 that's taking place

01:34:12.860 that are going to contribute

01:34:13.740 to the economy,

01:34:14.640 that's going to contribute

01:34:15.320 to other people being employed.

01:34:16.800 This is what we're hoping for.

01:34:18.400 If it doesn't work,

01:34:19.800 I'll be up here saying,

01:34:20.980 it didn't work.

01:34:21.840 I think Megyn Kelly

01:34:22.680 will be up here saying,

01:34:23.640 it didn't work, damn it.

01:34:24.840 But we can't knock them for trying

01:34:26.660 because what was

01:34:27.760 the other side doing?

01:34:29.320 Building debt

01:34:30.200 and while you were doing so,

01:34:31.940 you were trying to guilt us

01:34:33.780 into voting for you

01:34:35.340 by throwing as much haterade

01:34:37.220 as possible on that guy

01:34:38.860 instead of highlighting,

01:34:40.540 instead of highlighting for us

01:34:42.040 what made you

01:34:43.380 the better candidate.

01:34:44.760 And when I think about it

01:34:46.020 from that perspective,

01:34:46.960 I get really, really upset

01:34:48.820 and I know a lot of Black folks

01:34:50.440 and a lot of minorities

01:34:51.280 in this country

01:34:51.920 who get very, very upset

01:34:53.860 because we want to get

01:34:55.340 to a point where

01:34:56.360 your policy

01:34:57.700 against their policy,

01:34:59.520 what's best for America?

01:35:01.100 What you got?

01:35:02.100 And we're not seeing that.

01:35:04.040 And as a result,

01:35:04.980 Trump's able to come in there

01:35:06.080 and say to hell

01:35:06.920 with all of y'all,

01:35:07.540 this is what I'm going to do.

01:35:08.620 And there's little

01:35:09.140 than anybody can say

01:35:10.020 until we show us fails.

01:35:11.360 They can't stick with

01:35:12.320 a haterade forever.

01:35:13.280 You know, every once in a while

01:35:14.160 you need some nice tea.

01:35:16.960 That's right.

01:35:17.780 However, we're getting

01:35:18.700 something very different still

01:35:19.680 from top Democrats

01:35:20.700 like Tim Walz,

01:35:22.760 who has got a different plan

01:35:24.060 for the Democrats

01:35:24.660 to improve on these numbers.

01:35:26.180 And here is part of it.

01:35:27.980 Sot 17.

01:35:30.100 Called out on this

01:35:31.160 because I called Donald Trump

01:35:32.960 a wannabe dictator.

01:35:34.640 It's because he is.

01:35:36.460 It's because he is.

01:35:38.140 The governor's being mean

01:35:39.860 and the governor's

01:35:40.680 speaking out on that.

01:35:41.840 Well, maybe it's time

01:35:42.600 for us to be a little meaner.

01:35:44.060 Maybe it's time for us

01:35:45.160 to be a little more fierce.

01:35:47.360 We have to ferociously

01:35:49.200 push back on this.

01:35:50.180 And again, I'll speak

01:35:51.260 to my teacher colleagues

01:35:52.420 in here.

01:35:53.480 The thing that bothers

01:35:54.820 a teacher more than anything

01:35:55.980 is to watch a bully.

01:35:57.580 To watch this bully

01:35:58.860 and to stop it.

01:35:59.980 And when it's a child,

01:36:01.620 you talk to them

01:36:02.560 and you tell them

01:36:03.520 why bullying's wrong.

01:36:04.920 But when it's adult

01:36:05.840 like Donald Trump,

01:36:06.860 you bully the shit

01:36:07.760 out of him back.

01:36:08.720 You push back.

01:36:11.500 You make sure they know

01:36:13.020 it's not there.

01:36:14.000 Because at heart,

01:36:15.640 at heart,

01:36:16.520 this is a weak,

01:36:18.920 cruel man

01:36:19.620 that takes it out

01:36:20.720 and punches down

01:36:21.720 on people.

01:36:23.920 Here we go again,

01:36:25.100 Stephen A.

01:36:25.800 He's a wannabe dictator.

01:36:27.480 You need to bully

01:36:28.060 the shit out of him.

01:36:29.460 We need to be meaner.

01:36:30.980 We need to be fierce,

01:36:32.480 which is literally

01:36:33.160 like a word

01:36:33.900 that my young children

01:36:35.100 rejected about

01:36:35.840 three years ago.

01:36:37.460 I don't mind.

01:36:38.440 I don't mind, Megan,

01:36:39.900 to be honest with you,

01:36:41.120 as long as you have

01:36:41.980 policies to back it up.

01:36:43.560 Because you see,

01:36:44.780 we can talk about

01:36:45.740 Donald Trump

01:36:46.300 bloviating all we want to.

01:36:47.620 And by the way,

01:36:48.240 I don't like him

01:36:49.200 suing media

01:36:49.940 and going after folks

01:36:51.240 and feeling as if

01:36:52.520 you're compelled

01:36:53.240 to agree with him

01:36:54.160 and to not insult him.

01:36:55.460 Otherwise,

01:36:55.920 he's going to target you.

01:36:57.100 I do think that's petty

01:36:58.040 from time to time.

01:36:59.220 And I do think that

01:37:00.060 he should be better than that.

01:37:01.720 But in the same breath,

01:37:03.060 if I'm looking at you

01:37:04.040 and I'm saying,

01:37:04.700 like I told you,

01:37:05.540 I wrote stuff down.

01:37:06.460 This is a big,

01:37:07.280 beautiful new deal

01:37:08.360 and all of this other stuff.

01:37:09.380 Well, guess what?

01:37:10.520 Eight trillion

01:37:11.080 in pledge U.S. jobs,

01:37:12.300 tax cuts on small businesses,

01:37:13.860 fair trade,

01:37:14.420 no tax on tips,

01:37:15.300 no tax on overtime,

01:37:16.620 makes 2017,

01:37:18.100 you know,

01:37:18.560 tax breaks are permanent,

01:37:19.780 deregulation,

01:37:20.940 no more green energy subsidies.

01:37:22.760 These are the kind of things

01:37:23.660 that I just wrote down.

01:37:24.540 If I'm wrong about anything

01:37:25.360 that I said, Megan,

01:37:26.740 please tell me

01:37:27.540 and I'll correct myself.

01:37:28.800 But when I hear that,

01:37:30.540 I'm like,

01:37:31.060 okay,

01:37:31.940 I don't like

01:37:32.880 how he acts sometimes.

01:37:34.900 I don't like

01:37:35.520 how juvenile

01:37:36.120 he comes across sometimes.

01:37:38.060 But I know

01:37:38.480 it's more important

01:37:39.080 than I hear that

01:37:39.800 when I just read off to you.

01:37:41.240 I know it's more important

01:37:42.100 to the American citizen.

01:37:43.300 I know it's more important

01:37:44.120 to the voter.

01:37:45.140 And what do you have to offer

01:37:47.220 if you're the other side?

01:37:48.920 See,

01:37:49.180 that's the whole point.

01:37:50.520 We're fierce.

01:37:52.120 Well, listen,

01:37:52.800 you talk about being fierce.

01:37:54.260 Well,

01:37:54.880 you just got your ass

01:37:55.760 kicked in the election.

01:37:57.180 Okay?

01:37:57.640 I mean,

01:37:58.160 I don't really want to hear that.

01:37:58.840 Bill Harris was literally

01:37:59.580 out there last week

01:38:00.660 in Australia saying,

01:38:01.520 I eat no for breakfast.

01:38:03.140 Okay,

01:38:03.340 you were delivered no

01:38:04.300 on a silver platter

01:38:05.160 by the American voters.

01:38:06.620 And here's the deal.

01:38:07.820 And here's the deal.

01:38:08.340 But this is what

01:38:08.940 they're holding on to.

01:38:10.120 He got 49.8% of the vote.

01:38:12.620 We got 48.3.

01:38:14.380 We only lost

01:38:15.400 by one and a half

01:38:16.320 percentage points

01:38:17.040 and neither side

01:38:18.100 got 50% of the vote.

01:38:20.380 So guess what?

01:38:21.100 It's not a mandate.

01:38:22.220 The man won

01:38:23.120 young voters.

01:38:24.900 He got more black voters.

01:38:26.500 He got more young voters.

01:38:27.800 He won every swing state.

01:38:29.280 He won the popular vote

01:38:30.480 for the Republican Party

01:38:31.500 for the first time

01:38:32.100 since 2004.

01:38:33.260 I mean,

01:38:33.640 Dan,

01:38:33.900 what do you need

01:38:35.000 in order for there

01:38:36.120 to be labeled a mandate?

01:38:37.680 I don't understand it.

01:38:38.840 But nevertheless,

01:38:40.320 in a loss,

01:38:41.720 to reflect upon the loss

01:38:43.560 and to talk about

01:38:44.500 pushing back,

01:38:45.300 pushing back,

01:38:46.120 pushing back on them,

01:38:47.200 that's all you got?

01:38:48.560 And oh,

01:38:48.920 by the way,

01:38:49.780 if that is what

01:38:50.780 you really,

01:38:51.360 really feel,

01:38:52.460 how come you didn't do it

01:38:53.340 during the campaign?

01:38:54.640 How come you didn't do it

01:38:55.540 when you were on the debate stage

01:38:56.780 versus J.D. Vance?

01:38:57.860 I mean,

01:38:58.240 if there was ever

01:38:58.940 a kumbaya moment

01:39:01.100 in politics,

01:39:02.300 it was him

01:39:03.240 against J.D. Vance.

01:39:04.300 I mean,

01:39:04.620 they did everything

01:39:05.200 about hugging

01:39:05.560 and kissing one another.

01:39:06.540 I mean,

01:39:06.760 this is what was going on.

01:39:08.000 They even parodied it

01:39:08.940 on Saturday Night Live.

01:39:10.380 I mean,

01:39:10.660 this is how funny it was.

01:39:12.320 And so when you're looking

01:39:13.120 at it from that standpoint,

01:39:14.560 where was all of that

01:39:15.540 when you had the ear

01:39:17.120 of the Democratic

01:39:18.940 presidential nominee

01:39:20.080 that is Kamala Harris?

01:39:21.880 Where was all of that then?

01:39:23.420 We don't want,

01:39:23.840 I respect Tim Walsh,

01:39:26.920 you're the governor

01:39:27.320 of Minnesota.

01:39:27.700 I get what you bring

01:39:28.620 to the table,

01:39:29.220 whatever that may be.

01:39:30.400 God bless you.

01:39:31.220 But you had an opportunity

01:39:32.240 to make all of this noise before.

01:39:34.340 And if you missed out on it,

01:39:36.360 we certainly don't want

01:39:37.360 to hear from you now.

01:39:38.340 That in sports parlance,

01:39:39.880 Megan,

01:39:39.980 that is the equivalent

01:39:41.020 of losing the championship

01:39:43.520 by getting swept

01:39:45.380 and then going to talk shit

01:39:47.200 about the opponent.

01:39:48.220 How'd that work?

01:39:49.580 You had an opportunity

01:39:50.420 to beat him.

01:39:51.800 They ran by calling Trump

01:39:53.440 a dictator,

01:39:54.240 comparing him to a Nazi,

01:39:56.000 calling him Hitler.

01:39:57.420 Like,

01:39:57.620 how much meaner

01:39:58.580 do they think

01:39:59.020 they should get?

01:39:59.720 I don't understand

01:40:00.380 where's the extra room

01:40:02.580 for them to get

01:40:03.240 even meaner,

01:40:04.480 a little meaner,

01:40:05.420 more fierce,

01:40:06.580 and to bully

01:40:07.900 the shit out of him.

01:40:08.660 How do you do that

01:40:09.460 in a way that

01:40:10.040 they didn't already do that?

01:40:10.940 I don't know how

01:40:11.540 you're going to do that,

01:40:12.900 but more importantly,

01:40:13.860 I don't know why

01:40:14.600 you would think

01:40:15.180 that would work

01:40:16.060 considering

01:40:16.840 how we've shown you,

01:40:18.820 we felt about you

01:40:19.960 during the election.

01:40:21.960 Even people like me

01:40:23.220 who voted for her,

01:40:24.440 I voted,

01:40:25.020 I didn't like

01:40:25.760 his incivility.

01:40:26.720 I thought the presidency

01:40:27.560 was a statesmanship position,

01:40:29.180 but in the same breath,

01:40:30.260 I was hopeful

01:40:30.780 that she would be somebody

01:40:31.800 that would work

01:40:32.320 across the aisle

01:40:33.020 and that you would be able

01:40:34.140 to police some things

01:40:35.900 that was going on

01:40:36.920 on the left.

01:40:37.520 I regret that,

01:40:38.960 okay?

01:40:39.420 Not to say that

01:40:40.180 I would vote for him,

01:40:41.060 but I certainly don't like

01:40:42.340 the thought of voting

01:40:43.300 for her.

01:40:44.340 This is such a fun thread.

01:40:45.740 But we only have

01:40:47.880 16 seconds left,

01:40:48.840 so we've got to put

01:40:49.640 a pin in this one

01:40:50.320 and pick it back up

01:40:50.980 the next time

01:40:51.480 because I'm running

01:40:51.900 out of time.

01:40:52.060 We have to put it back up.

01:40:52.940 We have to pick it back up

01:40:54.360 another time,

01:40:54.960 no doubt about that,

01:40:55.800 but I don't like

01:40:57.260 what I'm seeing

01:40:57.600 from the left.

01:40:58.160 I really, really don't.

01:40:59.820 Well, you should be

01:41:00.580 very happy that that vote

01:41:01.660 did not put her in office

01:41:02.720 because, my God,

01:41:03.740 I don't know what

01:41:04.280 we'd be facing right now,

01:41:05.800 but we dodged that vote.

01:41:07.180 They thought I didn't talk.

01:41:07.860 Very happy.

01:41:08.320 I get you.

01:41:09.600 Stephen A. Smith,

01:41:10.360 a pleasure as always.

01:41:11.340 Thanks for being here.

01:41:12.660 My pleasure, Megan.

01:41:13.340 You take care of yourself,

01:41:14.140 all right?

01:41:14.640 Talk to you soon.

01:41:15.060 All right, you too.

01:41:15.900 We're back tomorrow

01:41:16.540 with Next Up Hope,

01:41:17.560 host Mark Halperin,

01:41:19.640 along with his

01:41:20.260 morning meeting crew.

01:41:21.600 That'll be fun.

01:41:22.440 Tune in for that.

01:41:26.100 Thanks for listening

01:41:26.880 to The Megyn Kelly Show.

01:41:28.220 No BS,

01:41:29.080 no agenda,

01:41:29.820 and no fear.

The Megyn Kelly Show - June 03, 2025

Left's Sports Lies Exposed, Trump's FAFO Portrait, and Why Dems are Losing Black Voters, with Link Lauren and Stephen A. Smith ｜ Ep. 1085

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