00:03:37.440And we covered it on AM Update, where when he first hit the scene, some website called or Twitter account called Progressive Victory immediately tweeted out.
00:05:20.660So Progressive Victory puts out this tweet,
00:05:22.900and this is a far-left Twitter account,
00:05:25.800so you're like, oh, wow, I guess it's not going to be this guy Troy Jackson.
00:05:28.940Well, a couple days later, once the party seems to be settling on him,
00:05:32.580They withdraw. Well, they don't withdraw the tweet, but they amend saying, oh, we sent that out in a panic when we were just really scared that he was going to be another Plattner.
00:05:43.560But we since realized that it's unverified and that was irresponsible of us.
00:05:48.360So they don't crap on the reporting like they have no idea whether it's true.
00:05:52.340They just say it was irresponsible to send it out without confirmation.
00:05:55.980And we did it in a panic because we don't want another abuser.
00:05:58.680Well, now we get the piece. The Washington Post has just dropped the piece with the information about that incident and many more.
00:06:11.140OK, and before I give you the details on it, let me give you the Mark Halperin post, because Mark Halperin always knows what's what.
00:06:16.780And he had this little ditty up his sleeve. And last night at 7 p.m., 7, 18 p.m. Eastern, he tweeted out the following, quote,
00:06:25.800So, normal length, competitive campaigns for U.S. Senate nominations include ample time to have the press and political opponents vet the top choices.
00:06:37.840Short campaigns do not allow for that.
00:06:41.100Ask yourself why Republicans, including the National Republican Senatorial Committee, have not engaged in oppo efforts to slow down Troy Jackson.
00:06:53.660So then this morning, what does the Washington Post drop? And I guarantee you, this is just the latest in or this is just the opening salvo because this is not a GOP controlled publication. And God only knows what the Republicans have on this guy.
00:07:11.900This is what the Democrat newspaper dropped now days before he officially secures the nomination, which is this weekend.
00:11:35.580Troy Jackson, a powerful Maine legislator now running for Senate, once angrily threw a water
00:11:41.680bottle in a meeting he couldn't persuade a law when he wouldn't persuade a lawmaker to vote
00:11:46.840his way. He yelled at another lawmaker, prompting her to post on social media that straight men
00:11:52.260were too emotional to be in politics. And he cursed and shouted in a meeting with the speaker
00:11:57.640of Maine's statehouse until she kicked him out of her office. During the six years, Jackson
00:12:03.080presided over Main Senate until he left office in 2024. This is not ancient history. His temper
00:12:11.060was a feature of his leadership. That's an interesting way to phrase it. Was Mitt Romney's
00:12:18.060misogyny a feature of his leadership? What does that mean? And one the Democratic lawmakers
00:12:24.480discussed among themselves as a problem and even raised with the governor. That's according to a
00:12:30.400reported of his leadership drawn from interviews with more than two dozen people who spoke to the
00:12:33.880Washington Post. Some remained anonymous. Jackson himself declined to be interviewed.
00:12:39.260B.J. McAllister, a campaign advisor, acknowledged, quote, moments when he let his frustration get
00:12:43.020the better of him, but said Jackson took responsibility and apologized when it happened.
00:12:47.800Troy regrets the moments when disagreements became too heated, said McAllister, but passion
00:12:52.500for the issues he advocates for should not be confused with physical intimidation or bullying.
00:12:56.860OK, now here we go. Ready? Incident with the then speaker of the main house. So this person is a black woman who is the first speaker of the main house. This then this is what this guy's running on the Democrat ticket. May I remind you, Troy Jackson.
00:13:15.460In 2024, Jackson became enraged in a meeting with then House Speaker Rachel Talbot Ross's office when the two Democrats disagreed about tactics on passing a gun control measure.
00:13:28.960Jackson banged on the table, cursed, and then got close to Talbot Ross's face after he said he was done talking to the leader, according to two people.
00:13:37.440Talbot Ross, a civil rights advocate and the first black woman elected to the main legislature, kicked him out of her office.
00:13:44.140Another person in the room connected to the Post by the Jackson campaign disputed that he was face to face with her or that he slammed his hand on a table and cursed.
00:13:53.820But they did note that they had a heated argument.
00:13:58.600But I mean, I'm going to guess screaming in the face of the first black person woman elected to the main legislature would be probably devastating if a if a Republican had done it in the eyes of The Washington Post or Maine Democrats.
00:14:12.680but let's keep going. Water bottle incident. In 2021, again, that's five years ago. Post-COVID.
00:14:20.900He had an argument with a member of his caucus and then state Senator Heather Sanborn,
00:14:29.120a Democrat. It became legend in Augusta, Maine, where lawmakers of both parties gossiped about
00:14:34.900Jackson's enraged confrontation with her. References to the incident with spare details
00:15:08.020Jackson grew angry with Sanborn and confronted her, said three people in the room that day, and multiple people briefed on the fight.
00:15:14.220At one point, he threw a water bottle in anger.
00:15:17.800Quote, he was an inch from her nose, screaming and hollering and haranguing her.
00:15:23.260One of Jackson's former legislative colleagues who was in the room said, yeah, that person said.
00:15:32.200So they said they didn't have physical contact, but he was an inch from her nose, screaming and hollering and haranguing her.
00:15:36.160May I refer you back to the incident with the black speaker of the house in whose face he allegedly got where the one said that he he banged on the table.
00:15:44.460He cursed and he got close to her face and his aide said, well, he wasn't face to face with her and he didn't slam his hand.
00:15:52.000Do we believe that now that we see with this other person?
00:15:55.000He was in her face an inch from her nose, screaming and hollering and haranguing her.
00:16:00.280I would say it gives credence to report number one, maybe a pattern.
00:16:03.180Multiple former lawmakers record that Sanborn, the woman whose face he was, at whom he allegedly threw the water bottle, left the Senate that day and did not return for several days.
00:16:15.020Quote, it was pretty intense, said one source.
00:16:17.360I haven't seen anything like that before or since.
00:16:20.920Jackson's campaign advisor acknowledged that the candidate did throw a plastic water bottle, but said he was not targeting anyone.
00:16:30.340Guys, it was not, it was just mad at the wall.
00:25:23.920video of Katie Porter cursing at her staffer.
00:25:26.220This video tells us everything we need to know
00:25:27.900about former congressman porter she is unfit to serve period well i look forward to barbara boxer
00:25:34.060coming out and speaking out about troy jackson guys do you i mean i i think we're three two one
00:25:39.700until this leader of the democrat party this you know senator emeritus as nancy pelosi wants to be
00:25:45.200called speaker emeritus which is not a thing she i look forward to her leading her party out of the
00:25:50.980troy jackson rabbit hole because of his terrible temper in the same way she made katie porter
00:25:56.140suffer. Megan, I wouldn't get your hopes up, because what we've learned in our career in
00:26:01.120politics, and Ashbrook mentions it all the time, is the only time you learn bad things about a
00:26:05.640Democrat is when it benefits another Democrat. And unfortunately, in Maine, for the Maine
00:26:09.760Democrats, is they don't have any other options. No, they're all fresh out. At this point,
00:26:14.260they don't have any other options. So they're going to circle the wagons around Troy Jackson,
00:26:17.900I think. I think if you're waiting for her to issue a statement opposing Troy Jackson,
00:26:22.820And I think we're going to be waiting for some time.
00:26:25.400Yeah, it's worth rewinding the tape a little bit just to the Plattner and the end of the Plattner deal.
00:26:30.180It were all these allegations that were ultimately made about him were known and they were known in Democratic politics.
00:26:35.180And some of it had surfaced out privately.
00:26:37.460And then other parts with the New York Times article that did just a shoddy job of trying to I mean, they were basically trying to paper over serious allegations against him.
00:26:47.500But all that stuff started to come out, and not a single Democrat had any problem with it.
00:26:53.020He went down, Graham Plattner went down to D.C. to meet with Chuck Schumer and the entirety of the Senate Democratic Conference to try to do a little damage control when none was needed.
00:27:03.160And the reason none was needed was because he was up five points in the polls.
00:27:07.620Now, over the next week to 10 days, that five-point lead went into a five-point deficit, at which time, all of a sudden, these are very troubling allegations.
00:27:16.580And they just so happen to coincide with a 72-hour window where they could still do something about it.
00:27:22.640Now is the time to do what you need to do to get somebody, a statesman like Troy Jackson, who all he's done is throw a couple of water bottles around or something.
00:27:44.460But here's my next question in this whole saga. Why is the Washington Post doing this article? To me, this has the stench of the New York Times Lindsay Fifield article about Plattner. Remember, the New York Times did basically a catch and kill on the worst of the Graham Plattner allegations.
00:28:05.260They did a whitewash. They chose a couple of allegations that they knew were not going to tank him and put those up.
00:28:12.440And they had spoken with the rape accuser, but allegedly couldn't get her to go on the record.
00:28:17.880And I heard them talking, the reporters talking about this on The Daily, the New York Times podcast.
00:28:21.980And they they were saying we spoke with her. She just wouldn't go on the record with those accusations, which suggested they knew the accusations.
00:28:31.000They just couldn't convince her to go on the record, which I have to tell you, if you know that there is a serious rape accusation against somebody you're doing a Me Too piece on, and the only reason you can't print it is because the woman's not yet there, you know, where she'll say it on the record, the tone of your piece would normally sound very different from what the New York Times ultimately went with.
00:28:52.580So that it was a catch and kill. It definitely had the feel of a catch and kill. And I just wonder, given that Mark Halperin tweet, whether The Washington Post may have just done something similar for, as you point out, the only candidate left, because it's not going to be Ashley Webb.
00:29:16.860yeah yeah can't wait you're probably you're probably most well-equipped to explain uh journalism
00:29:23.760well i think megan i think you're exactly right i think this it's it's an old tactic
00:29:28.580right you mentioned the new york times trying it in this exact same senate race just a few months
00:29:34.340ago but every single cycle we see the same thing from these major papers and then some of the big
00:29:40.900broadcast networks they have great ties into the democratic party they want to boost those
00:29:46.280candidates because they're all Democrats. And it's a tactic that we've seen. I mean,
00:29:51.360we've worked in campaign politics for 20 years, tale as old as time. But what's different now
00:29:57.080is the media environment. They used to control, and Michael Duncan touched on this just a few
00:30:02.060minutes ago, they used to absolutely control, start to finish the conversation about politics
00:30:07.620in this country. That's not the case anymore. There's shows like the Megyn Kelly show,
00:30:11.860Shows like the Ruthless Variety Program. So you get balance in media in a way that never happened 10 years ago within the course of our careers. And I don't think Democrats are equipped to figure out how to how to manage their candidates and their messaging in this new environment, because what was so easy for them for so long is now increasingly difficult.
00:30:36.640They can't pull the wool over everybody's eyes.
00:30:40.240And in the case of the state of Maine, you have to ask yourself, well, why has Susan Collins gotten elected over and over and over again?
00:30:49.420I mean, all the Republicans and conservatives around the country find things to complain about with her voting record.
00:30:55.740But the people in Maine seem to like it.
00:30:57.680She's helping them outkick their coverage in the United States Senate.
00:31:01.600And this is a place where it's like Jessica Fletcher and Sheriff Amos Cuppert.
00:31:06.180this is not a place where people are throwing water bottles at women murder she wrote is that
00:31:11.300where you went with that well that's exactly right this is maine is a wonderful place with the name
00:31:18.100first and last name of the angela lansbury character what a deep track that is that's
00:31:23.940the type of color you get on the ruthless variety program but his next level he's illustrating a
00:31:30.340good point you look at somebody like susan collins who's a very competent politician
00:31:34.820and you're like man it it always seems like she's trailing in the polling i mean look at the
00:31:40.000sarah gideon race last time where she was trailing throughout yeah in 2020 and then won with margin
00:31:46.580in 2020 and the reason why is because there's parochial issues in a state like maine whenever
00:31:53.020you have a rural small state things like saving the lobster industry or like shipyard jobs things
00:31:59.920like that that don't make the front page of any newspaper delivering on stuff like that is huge
00:32:06.080and that's why susan collins has been so successful she's been a perfect ideological fit for maine and
00:32:10.320of course that's not an ideal logical fit for all of conservative america by any stretch of the
00:32:15.600imagination but she's always done things the right way by her constituents and yeah maine is not
00:32:21.200mississippi right and then you contrast that with this clown show and it's like i don't know does he
00:32:27.040beat women does he not beat women the other guy is accused of raping women i don't like it really
00:32:32.580are we having this conversation at the table the table to the floor okay just stop you i mean you
00:32:39.800guys are the political experts but my guess is like when you were explaining the bottle it hit
00:32:44.160the table it not not the lady at whom he was yelling an inch from her face that's not a win
00:32:51.320You're you're on quicksand, my brother. Like, this is not a great place to be. And let me tell you something else about that New York Times catch and kill on Graham Plattner. It didn't work. Why didn't it work? Because the main woman whose story they effectively buried and, you know, downplayed was pissed.
00:33:11.720she felt like she was lied to by the times so did lindsey fiefield who was told she was going to be
00:33:18.720a bit player in the times's piece and she wound up being the center of it and they dismissed her
00:33:24.240all of the left and basically the times too as a conservative operative which she knew was going
00:33:30.520to happen i mean she's such a she hates liberals so badly why was she sleeping with graham plattner
00:33:34.880you know it's like that doesn't make sense right but but okay whatever right so but it didn't work
00:33:40.060because the women were pissed at how the times handled it and they would not be shut up and let
00:33:45.500me tell you i am really wondering whether the three women highlighted in this washington post
00:33:51.260article who are on the wrong side of this troy jackson are going to be okay with how those
00:33:57.700incidents were portrayed the table i okay was it the table or did it hit this actual woman who if
00:34:06.080it hit what's her name uh heather sanborn i bet we're gonna find out about it if the first black
00:34:12.400woman elected to the main legislator legislature house speaker rachel talbot ross has been
00:34:18.260misrepresented and he really was in her face i bet we're gonna hear about it and then there was
00:34:24.340that other one who he got in the face of like i just think this isn't gonna do it you can't you
00:34:29.260really can't catch and kill anymore like people have figured it out so they won't be silenced
00:34:34.580yeah so i'm looking forward to part two the one thing that you can bet your bottom dollar on
00:34:39.260though megan is that there are democratic operatives crawling all over the uh inboxes
00:34:43.840of those three women that you just discussed ensuring that they will never work in democratic
00:34:47.920politics again if they try to surface any of that right and and well that kind of gets to be risky
00:34:54.880business too because if they go forward they're not only going forward with the the reality that
00:34:59.860they experience, but also the intimidation that they experience to not tell the story. So I think
00:35:05.440you're right. I think it's extremely difficult to keep reality out of the lens of politics these
00:35:10.680days, and thank God for it. Well, notwithstanding the best efforts of Ashley Webb, who very much
00:35:19.320tried to keep reality out of the lens. We're using that term so loosely. Ashley Webb, for those who
00:35:29.020aren't aware um is i think jack jack webb was the original name if i'm correct this person ran for
00:35:35.740office in new hampshire and lost and um now goes by ashley and wants us even though it's literally
00:35:44.140meatloaf reincarnated wants us to believe that that he is a she he looks just he looked just
00:41:29.480But and so this upcoming weekend is the official. OK, Troy Jackson's our nominee. But they allowed that Ashley Webb to join the others on stage and debate. And I suppose they're they're going to they're proud of this, I guess. They they think this is a badge of honor. They think this is going to reel in more people to their party.
00:41:48.140Like, again, like we've talked about this on the show. Many, many voters are not thrilled with the economy. Right. And they're holding against President Trump and will likely hold it against Republicans come the midterms. And they're thinking, I can't. I'm not going to vote for these guys. They didn't do. Whoa. Whoa. Never mind. I'm staying. I'm going to stay right where I am. I am not meandering over to Team Blue.
00:42:10.460I think you put your finger on a very interesting distinction. I mean, you look at the wave elections, 94, 2006, 2010, to a certain extent, 2018, to a certain extent, all of these midterm elections that have become incredibly difficult for parties in power, have an opposition that has solidified, at least if not a majority, a plurality, in terms of their overall favorability for the party.
00:42:38.980But Democrats are in the opposite situation where there's a huge majority of Americans
00:42:44.840that disapprove of everything in the country right now.
00:42:48.580And President Trump, obviously, by running the country and Republicans being in charge,
00:44:51.680Because they were focused on fixing Washington.
00:44:54.280You had a lot of Democrats out there saying, you know what?
00:44:56.960the party in charge the republicans aren't doing enough on border security they were touching on
00:45:01.940issues that your average voter actually cared about and so they were very successful and today
00:45:08.200they are all talking about issues that their donors in california in some parts of manhattan
00:45:13.800care about and they're missing the boat and it's why they won't succeed as much as they could and
00:45:19.600it's why it's not a referendum it's a choice they're they're actually the ones who needed to
00:45:24.440be a referendum to your point, but they're the ones who are also making this a choice just by
00:45:29.300virtue of their stupid positions. So I want to tell you something, something sad and something
00:45:35.800interesting. First, something sad. Back to Katie Porter. I'm just going to give you one soundbite
00:45:41.960just because it could be the last time we ever get to ever get to watch it. Here's here's soundbite
00:45:47.26060. That we're going to lose more than half a million Californians dying prematurely to air
00:45:54.140pollution and other problems and the state could lose get out of my fucking shot
00:46:00.520it's not that it's electric vehicles it's that if we don't need the commitments under the
00:46:07.380paris climate accord okay it does okay you also were in my shot before that
00:46:12.800stay out of my shot okay i'm going to start again with um electric vehicle saving us money perfect
00:46:20.680i mean now now we're sorry we gave her such a hard time over that clip because today in an
00:46:31.160interview with a sacramento bee quote i am closing the door on being a candidate i cannot foresee
00:46:39.020that path back she's done and she says she's now going to use one of her two social media accounts
00:46:48.160to discuss a different passion. Books. Hi, it's Katie Porter with a non-political post. I'm done
00:46:57.440for now with politics and campaigning. But one thing that's always been a constant from when I
00:47:03.680was a little kid to now is to love to read and taking a lot of solace and heart and joy, pleasure
00:47:11.320in reading so i'm rebranding this account as katie porter turns the page it's partly a reference to
00:47:18.760a new chapter in my life to the change but also to something i do a lot which is turn the page
00:47:24.120when i'm reading i'm a fast reader and so stay tuned for book recommendations book ideas and
00:47:30.140author content thanks so much she's now going to be a bookworm i like books a book club head
00:47:43.360uh i don't know but can you imagine if you disagree with her take on you know like little
00:47:50.520women or sense and sensibility i i have some recommendations for her new book group oh
00:47:57.720anger management book how to win friends and influence people
00:48:02.500well it's a real shame power of positive thinking yeah there we go it's a real shame because it's
00:48:08.840such a bull market for these abusive unattractive menaces that are political candidates out there
00:48:15.920i mean she's missing the boat her party loves them right look at troy katie move to maine
00:48:22.760Maybe that's the problem. She was in California. She should be in Maine. I'm sad that she's leaving. But here's the interesting news, which is AOC to Politico yesterday in a headline I missed says, quote, are you are you running for president? Quote, I can't say I've ruled it out.
00:48:43.760Yeah. That is the closest she's come. She's always played it down. She's refused to answer. She's dodged, gotten out of bounds. That's the closest she's ever come to saying, yeah, I might or yeah, I will. So what do you make of that? What does that tell us, guys?
00:48:58.040Yeah, I mean, we've been saying this for, I don't know, six, eight months, that one, she's definitely running for president. Two, she is the heir apparent to the Bernie movement, which, if not for Democratic shenanigans, probably won in 2016. Certainly had huge influence before Democrat shenanigans in 2020. And then it basically operated the entire ideological policy agenda of the Biden administration as a concession to get him into office.
00:49:24.640so she's the heir apparent to all of that but i also will say this as dumb as she comes off
00:49:30.820to people reasonable people and you know her ahistorical sort of ridiculous conception of
00:49:38.200what america is notwithstanding she's got real talent and she and she does have eq and if you
00:49:44.900notice what she's doing where she has colleagues that are sort of running themselves into these
00:49:49.860long-term meat grinders, she's avoiding them a bit. And so she would not endorse Plattner.
00:49:56.460Yeah. I would caution people who just easily hand wave AOC away and say that she's not a
00:50:03.380serious candidate. She's a deadly serious candidate. There was also the story in Axios
00:50:08.020a couple days ago, I don't know if you guys saw it, where they were drawing parallels between
00:50:12.140some of her recent rhetoric and Barack Obama's rhetoric. We played the soundbites yesterday.
00:50:16.700Yeah. So she is studious about maintaining this image as a potential bridge builder for her party, recognizing the fact that her party is as divided as hell. You've got the radical communists on one side and then you have the old school Democrats who are trying to get elected on the other side. And she is presenting herself as a potential bridge to pull those two sides together. You can see her working to try to make this happen.
00:50:43.140There was one other quote from AOC that I saw yesterday that I thought it was pretty instructive to this dynamic where she's trying to triangulate between the Bernie Sanders wing and your sort of run-of-the-mill Democrat.
00:50:57.700They were talking about the DSA, and she said, you know, growing up, I didn't come from a militant leftist family.
00:54:58.160I'm just glad, Megan, that they didn't try to recreate that picture of them dancing in their swimming suits right after the Paula Jones scandal back in the 90s.
00:55:06.960Remember the one that was on every tabloid front page trying to show that their marriage was strong?
00:55:24.820So that, you know, tip of the cap to them together after all these years.
00:55:29.280I do think, Megan, can I just say, the MAGA adjacent hat is very interesting to me because in 2024, I think we all remember when Bill Clinton was on the stump in Georgia talking about how important it was that Democrats start talking about the border again.
00:55:45.340And all the lefties were like, how dare you say that?
00:56:22.740And we were just talking about AOC and her pathway to the White House. It was Bill Clinton's political advisor last week, Jim Carville, who said it's not going to happen. She'll never get there. So if those guys still have hive mind in some level, they don't like the left wing lurch of that party.
00:56:39.160Oh, that's interesting. I wonder if he's telegraphing a message there like, you know, you can be MAGA adjacent and that might be preferable. It might be a better way to run for office as a dem than far left, you know, get rid of the U.S. Senate, get rid of the Pentagon, get rid of police, get rid of prisons, all that mania, which is not me being unfair to them. That's actually the DSA's platform.
00:57:04.660OK, the second item is about Joe Biden. He is still to this moment fighting to stop the release of the audios, the audio recordings from his interview with Robert Herr, the special counsel who is investigating whether he shared classified information inappropriately with his ghostwriter or the co-writer or whatever on his book.
00:57:28.640and Robert Heard found that he had, he had done that,
00:57:33.180but that he was not going to prosecute him
00:57:34.800because he was a well-meaning elderly man
00:57:36.560with a poor memory and that's how a jury would see him.
00:57:58.640He and his team do not want that out. Now that he's not even in office, it's truly like, well, what's the point? The point is he doesn't want us to know with our ears how bad he was.
00:58:10.180It's yet another piece of evidence that puts the lie to the lies we were told by the media and his team for all those years.
00:58:17.100So what's happened now is a federal appeals court, the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, has rejected a request by Biden to block the release of audio recordings and transcripts of interviews he did with a memoir ghostwriter prior to being elected president.
00:58:29.280The three-judge panel from the D.C. Circuit suspended its decision on the matter until August 3rd to allow Biden more time to consider another appeal.
00:58:40.340He can ask for an en banc review, like every judge on the D.C. Circuit to come together and review this.
00:58:44.860Or you can go right to the Supreme Court and ask them for a review.
00:58:47.760Neither one's going to pan out for him.
00:58:49.820But here is what the two-judge majority said.
00:58:53.920We conclude that any remaining incursion on personal privacy from disclosure of the now redacted materials likely does not outweigh the public interest in disclosure.
00:59:03.600So this, it looks like, guys, is going to come out.
00:59:07.940And I wonder if you're a Democrat, if you were if you're thinking, just let it come out now.
00:59:14.080Just like just look at July is better than mid-August, right?
00:59:20.300Like the closer we get to midterms, the worse it is.
00:59:23.780And maybe, like, if he petitions for an en banc review, that'll get us through probably till September 3rd.
00:59:31.500Whatever body he petitions next is going to say no, and they're going to say no quickly.
00:59:35.680But the longer he delays this, the more it's going to hurt when it comes out.
00:59:41.440Because the audio is probably coming out, and we're all going to feast on it.
00:59:44.680And I'm sure the, you know, the party, which much would much prefer at this point, he just roll over and take his licks on July 21st, as opposed to October 31st.
01:07:15.980We're all talking about, everyone's talking about my big interview.
01:07:18.580She played every privileged card she could. And in the other clip, she also mentions that he's now a Yale researcher and then teaches fourth graders. All of it.
01:07:28.240What happened to the important thing about not letting somebody off from a crime they've allegedly committed is sending a message to all the other would be, in this case, trespassers.
01:07:39.060And you heard there, she mentioned 1500 people have been pardoned. And she didn't say like, OK, I can give you the ones who just trespassed. She had no problem with those people going to jail or being punished disproportionately, by the way, in the criminal justice. None whatsoever. No sympathy whatsoever. But Harvard's son, he needs to go away. He needs to be exempted from going away because he's her son, guys.
01:08:04.660Harvard, Yale, former federal prosecutor on TV with a big interview. You see how the thing works?
01:08:10.260Yeah. Has there ever been a bigger own goal in the history of politics than the left wing
01:08:17.020lunatics demanding body cams on police officers? They would have the American people believe that
01:08:24.760every police officer is some racist, bloodthirsty lunatic trying to shoot black people. And every
01:08:32.880time we see the body cam footage you always are greeted by these police officers who are nothing
01:08:37.640but polite and are just trying to de-escalate a situation here you know so like that that is
01:08:43.620always what struck me as the funniest part of all of these things is like blm and in 2020 with the
01:08:49.960george floyd protests and everything they made you think that there was a genocide against black
01:08:54.760people in this country and now all these years later the american people have seen so much body
01:08:59.960cam footage it's like you know what maybe maybe it's the left-wing lunatics who are the problem
01:09:04.960not the police officers that's really well said i i also think by the way you know who they
01:09:09.760interviewed on june 16th jd vance so she was clearly trying to play up i'm an important person
01:09:17.920big interview today everyone's talking about it i mean how disgusting is she she she was trying to
01:09:24.800play the view card there. I'm a TV person. I do interviews and everyone knows me. And my kid,
01:09:33.520this kid, this 24-year-old man, you know, he's never been in trouble before. Okay, that's fine.
01:09:38.580You can say he'd never been in trouble before. The Harvard-Yale thing was hit repeatedly
01:09:43.320because of her privilege. Honestly, she's so blind to the fact that she's swimming in it.
01:09:50.960She's dripping with it. It's coming out of her eyeballs, her privilege. All she can see is the white privilege that she finds everywhere, including the neighborhood she chose to move to right before she told the world they were a bunch of racists who are probably going to target her son with a phone call just because he was running while black.
01:10:10.160Yeah. No, I mean, it goes to your point, Duncan. You can only imagine what that story would have looked like if there was not body cam. Right. Right. That would have been a feature on The View for quite some time.
01:11:19.920Like one of those fourth grade boys from, you know, one of the boroughs that he's allegedly tutoring, if if they'd been caught, if let's say it's like their 13 year older brother who got caught on those railroad tracks by himself, who didn't have a former federal prosecutor view host mom to call those cops, they probably would have just given them the citation, whatever, and they would have been in the criminal justice system.
01:11:40.940Her son got off with a lesser penalty because it was going to be a misdemeanor because they were being nice.
01:11:47.220They were being nice to him because she played so many cards.
01:12:54.160Something is not adding up to me, and I know you guys are going to agree with me.
01:12:57.340Look, we have taken stills of where he said he was out walking at 8 p.m. and a wife beater in this weird area by the train tracks.
01:13:06.000Now, there are gorgeous neighborhoods, gorgeous neighborhoods in this town.
01:13:11.140Why are you out behind a warehouse in this industrial area by the train tracks at sunset where there's alleged drug and other criminal activity?
01:13:21.120So much so that the police came in droves to the scene of the crime.
01:13:26.080And we have this diagram we put up on here.
01:13:28.320You can look at this diagram, right, where the cops stop him, where you have the no trespassing sign, where they meet the officers and we have the body cam footage.
01:13:48.080If this had been, I don't know, pick your, like, Don Trump Jr. or Barron Trump when he was just a candidate and he was running, Trump Sr., do you think the media might follow up?
01:14:00.560I think we'd probably get to the bottom.
01:14:03.560And, you know, I was sitting here listening to the conversation and thinking all along, like, why the hell didn't he just pay the $200 fine or the go online and pay the, you know, put his credit card in for the $75 fine?
01:16:36.500Okay. Now, while we're talking about individual figures in the news, we got to touch on Tom Brady.
01:16:43.120I have been wondering about Tom Brady for a while because I noticed in my own just, you know, observation, he's overexposed.
01:16:52.620And it's a strange decision for someone that famous and talented and accomplished to need overexposure, to need like the daily clicks as badly as he seems to.
01:17:10.520So I saw Dave Portnoy draw attention to this because Tom Brady did this stunt.
01:25:22.920Whitlock posits that everything started going south when he divorced Giselle.
01:25:28.420that when a man has a wife and a family to come home to every night they ground him in in the
01:25:37.660best sense and they give him something to strive for like the respect of that family the earned
01:25:44.200respect the values that you're trying to teach your children and as the head of that family like
01:25:48.380all the things that run through a man's mind when he goes off to work or you know sits down at his
01:25:54.480desk to work are no longer really motivating Tom Brady. He's like allegedly sleeping with Alex
01:26:01.640Earl or this other model or that model. He's, you know, from party to party, from red carpet event
01:26:09.560to red carpet event. And I do think for like a younger man in his twenties, that might sound
01:26:14.160very sexy. I think when you're what, 47, how old is he? He's right up there, years old, 48. And
01:26:22.260you've lost you've lost the greatest supermodel in the world and full-time custody of your kids
01:26:27.740after a couple years which it's been now since they divorced and she's off with another great
01:26:32.300looking guy just had a sweet baby boy with him maybe you start to realize you can't fill all
01:26:38.580these holes in you with another red carpet event or influencer stunt or yet another 10 hundred
01:26:44.920million there's only one way of filling it and it actually does take the toiling work of building a
01:26:50.600family, being faithful, making your meals together, going to church on Sundays, all the stuff that
01:26:55.900your average American does in order to find happiness. Yeah, Whitlock is, his observations
01:27:00.740are always astute. And he has a way of conveying stuff in a very simple manner that I think
01:27:09.060everybody sort of digests and appreciates. I mean, I won't pretend to know what's going through
01:27:13.880Brady's mind. But I do know that if I went home every night and just scrolled TikTok and then
01:27:19.360woke up the next morning i'd be like well where the hell did my night go because that wasn't
01:27:23.120worthwhile i mean it you can you can easily see calories it is it is and it's like it's what's it
01:27:29.740for like oh another video oh great oh that person was fine i mean maybe you get a couple of laughs
01:27:34.240there's there's value in having a couple of yucks but like spending a lot of time on social media
01:27:40.140and tiktok it's just not yeah let me take let me take a counterpoint on some of it uh oh uh
01:27:48.660Look, this is a guy who had everything, and obviously we mentioned the Giselle thing, and late in life he becomes America's most eligible bachelor.
01:28:11.020The theory is that he is actually not enjoying that as much as he would have us believe.
01:28:16.540Well, maybe, but I also think that the other component of this is your representation. When you get to be that big of a deal, you're surrounded by teams of people that manage your image.
01:28:28.600What has happened to Tom Brady is he's got some element of his team that, for self-serving reasons, wants to book him on all of these things and wants to keep him relevant to younger audiences.
01:28:41.360Because they get paid and they create those connections that they can use for other clients and other things and their own future, whatever.
01:28:49.440And there's nobody sitting atop of Tom Brady Enterprises underneath Tom himself who is saying like, dude, this is the greatest quarterback of our generation.
01:28:58.120What in the hell are you doing putting him with a TikTok influencer who's like most noteworthy latest thing is fighting Mike Tyson when he's 65 years old.
01:29:07.440like of course this is all joke and this is all ridiculous but nobody's managing that for him
01:29:13.740and i feel badly for him as a result he really is the greatest quarterback of his generation
01:29:18.360and he's getting totally underrepresented in my view well said i totally agree thank you for
01:29:24.840saying that because i was this morning i was like it's the i bet it's the people around him
01:29:28.520looking to cash in on every dollar he can make and he can make an endless amount of them so
01:29:33.420they're like cashing cashing but this is not some nfl football player who played you know the first
01:29:38.240three-year contract of his life at 200 000 bucks and then left and you have to really capitalize on
01:29:43.120your fame for the two minutes you have it you know because you're not going to play football ever
01:29:46.080again this is tom brady and like whitlock was saying you don't see messy doing this um or was
01:29:54.220it portnoy you don't see beckham doing this look at novak jokovic he's i think i think he's we can
01:30:01.780say he's the GOAT. Federer's right up there. Nadal's right up there. There's a whole collection
01:30:06.540that's right under him. But if you just look at Grand Slams 1 and tournaments 1, Djokovic is the
01:30:11.500GOAT. And he doesn't do this crap. You know what you see on Djokovic's social media? Him with his
01:30:16.960wife and his kids. That's what you see. That's how he spends his time. And I will tell you,
01:30:22.460I know somebody who knew Tom and Giselle when they were married. And this person told me that
01:30:28.700that Giselle very much wanted him to be a stay at home kind of spouse, like be with her in the
01:30:37.180evenings and be with the family. And that he was very interested in going out and being more of a
01:30:42.240party boy. And she's more of a traditional, you know, she's from Brazil. She's like, those women
01:30:48.140like their men to be more traditional, you know, and I'm sure she did want him to be home as head
01:30:54.160household not like home never leaving but like the default is we're all at home at night and his
01:31:00.000default according to this person was he wanted to go out he wanted a party she didn't want it
01:31:04.900and they it drove a wedge between the two of them and i just think that has such a limited short
01:31:09.100shelf life you know it's like you can't i i'll i guarantee you he's he's having second thoughts
01:31:16.140about that divorce right now especially as he sees this stunning woman with her sweet baby boy
01:31:20.780in these little pictures and the new you know the new husband's not bad either he's the jiu-jitsu
01:31:26.340instructor i think it's not like she didn't land the plane suit instructors this is i don't allow
01:31:33.840it don't it's a no honey i don't mind if you put on a few extra pounds i love you just as you are
01:31:40.200you repeat after me we're gonna take a quick break more with the fellas right after this
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