The Megyn Kelly Show - Megyn Kelly Makes the Reluctant Case For Cuomo, and Winsome Earle-Sears on the Racism and Misogyny of the Left ｜ Ep. 1178

00:00:00.440 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east.

00:00:12.140 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Thursday.

00:00:16.900 Later today we have Virginia Lieutenant Governor Winsome Earl Sears.

00:00:21.440 She is in a very tight race to become the next governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia.

00:00:26.620 Just 12 days to go until Election Day and she has got the entire Democratic Party plus the media against her. 1.00

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00:02:10.440 I'm going to start with a few stories in the news on my own.

00:02:13.760 I'm going to just talk about what's going on.

00:02:15.260 I don't know if you watch, you probably didn't watch the New York City mayoral race last night,

00:02:20.600 the debate.

00:02:22.200 It was the last debate between these three guys.

00:02:24.820 And I'm sorry, but it's poor New York.

00:02:28.020 Poor New York. 0.91

00:02:29.940 We're about to elect a guy who looks like a radical Muslim socialist

00:02:36.740 as the mayor of the greatest city in the world.

00:02:39.520 And this guy, this question of this imam who we talked about yesterday, didn't even come up.

00:02:46.280 It wasn't even a thing.

00:02:47.920 Like, no one's making a thing out of that on the debate stage.

00:02:51.060 So he actually, like, actually physically embraced this imam who testified for the defense

00:02:59.100 at the trial of the blind sheikh in 1993 after the first bombing of the World Trade Center.

00:03:03.820 He literally was a defense witness.

00:03:07.160 And Zoran Mamdani's got his arms around him, smiling in a photo, calls him, just recently,

00:03:13.140 a pillar of the New York community.

00:03:14.980 And no one seems to think this is important.

00:03:18.720 Now, Andrew Cuomo did bring up this other person.

00:03:21.880 He was photographed when he went to Uganda for his wedding at his palace.

00:03:27.020 He wants to pretend he's working class. 0.86

00:03:28.940 He's not working class. 0.99

00:03:29.780 Look, here he is standing with this woman.

00:03:31.900 Her name is Rebecca Kadaga.

00:03:34.560 And Andrew Cuomo laid into him for this, which was a fine attack.

00:03:38.300 I don't know why we didn't hear about the imam.

00:03:40.220 But here's what Cuomo said about this woman.

00:03:44.180 Take a picture with Rebecca Kadaga, deputy prime minister of Uganda.

00:03:49.880 You take a picture with your father.

00:03:52.160 You're smiling.

00:03:53.380 He's smiling.

00:03:54.160 She's known as Rebecca Gay Killer Kadaga. 0.99

00:03:59.440 You're a citizen of Uganda.

00:04:01.660 You took the picture.

00:04:02.560 You said you didn't know who she was.

00:04:04.440 It turns out you did.

00:04:05.760 How do you not renounce your citizenship or demand BDS against Uganda for imprisoning people 0.57

00:04:16.420 who are gay just by their sexual orientation?

00:04:21.440 Isn't that a basic violation of human rights?

00:04:23.680 My politics is consistent and my politics is built on a belief in human rights for all

00:04:35.700 people.

00:04:36.280 And that extends to queer and trans New Yorkers and it extends to queer and trans Ugandans.

00:04:41.960 And had I known that the first deputy minister was the architect of that legislation, I would

00:04:47.060 not have taken that photo.

00:04:49.100 Okay.

00:04:50.120 So he's from Uganda.

00:04:52.020 The guy's a citizen of Uganda.

00:04:53.940 And he doesn't know that this woman who is at the top of the leadership structure in Uganda

00:04:59.020 is so far anti-LGBTQ rights that she looks like she's basically like a David Duke type on those issues. 0.70

00:05:09.580 She pushed harsh, harsh anti-LGBTQ policies that included life imprisonment for gay people just for being gay.

00:05:19.580 Anyway, that's the story in Uganda.

00:05:23.320 In 2012, then Speaker Kadaga infamously said she was passing a draconian law imposing severe penalties

00:05:28.860 against practicing homosexuals as a Christmas gift for supporters. 0.98

00:05:33.000 Um, she said, you want that law as a Christmas gift?

00:05:36.740 We're giving it to you.

00:05:37.740 So she wants and passed a law that, um, made it a life imprisonment offense for people who are gay.

00:05:47.160 That's terrific.

00:05:48.140 What a nice lady who he was posing with for photos. 1.00

00:05:50.540 This is not like some random, it's not like you were yours truly going like through Uganda on a tourist trip

00:05:56.280 and posing, you know, with some random person who turns out to be really harshly anti-gay.

00:06:01.140 This is his country. 0.61

00:06:03.300 Okay, it's his country.

00:06:04.880 She's a very well-known politician. 1.00

00:06:07.140 And, um, the laws in Uganda in general are terrible, terrible for gays. 0.75

00:06:11.620 It's got one of the world's harshest laws for gay people.

00:06:14.740 Same-sex activity is illegal for both men and women in Uganda and does require life imprisonment

00:06:19.900 thanks to his good buddy who he posed in the photos with.

00:06:24.020 Chris Lynn, who's the co-founder of the Stonewall Democratic Club in New York.

00:06:28.640 This is the city's first LGBTQ club. 0.95

00:06:31.560 Said he's either a liar or incredibly ill-informed. 0.98

00:06:34.520 Come on. 0.85

00:06:35.040 No one thinks he's that ill-informed.

00:06:37.080 He knew.

00:06:38.400 And this imam he was with, who's like, totally pro-terror, pillar of the community. 0.87

00:06:44.320 Oh, he hasn't even tried to distance himself from that.

00:06:47.340 He hasn't even tried to say, I didn't know about that one.

00:06:49.700 He's like, yeah, pillar.

00:06:51.440 Okay, that's who we're about to elect.

00:06:53.180 I'm sorry.

00:06:55.060 It's, there's no choice right now.

00:06:59.420 You're going to have to vote Cuomo.

00:07:01.040 I'm sorry.

00:07:02.140 I, with all due respect to Curtis Lewa, I can't stand Cuomo.

00:07:06.360 But Curtis can't win.

00:07:07.400 And we're now so tight in terms of the election.

00:07:10.900 You got to get real.

00:07:12.580 How are we going to elect this guy, this imam-loving, this terror-loving imam-loving 0.93

00:07:18.100 Momdani as the next mayor of New York?

00:07:22.000 Look, Curtis Lewa, I respect.

00:07:24.960 It's just, he wasn't able to get it done.

00:07:27.000 His numbers are too low.

00:07:28.080 He's not a realistic candidate.

00:07:29.140 That's the truth.

00:07:30.700 So I'm sorry.

00:07:32.160 It's disgusting. 0.98

00:07:33.140 But I have to go with the guy who's going to like harass me and kill off grannies over 1.00

00:07:39.400 the guy who wants to like potentially actively turn New York into one big mosque. 0.80

00:07:45.380 I just like, okay, here is an extraordinary exchange.

00:07:49.960 Poor Curtis.

00:07:50.600 I mean, he's really in the thick of it and I feel for him, but he called into, we mentioned

00:07:54.020 this yesterday and I'll get to the debate in one second.

00:07:56.320 He called into WABC, his radio station where he has a radio show and got into it with Sid

00:08:00.940 Rosenberg.

00:08:01.500 We had part of it yesterday.

00:08:02.740 Now we've heard more.

00:08:04.220 Listen to this exchange between these two guys as they went at it.

00:08:07.960 You're like you're running against Momdani anymore.

00:08:10.180 I really don't.

00:08:11.420 This hatred for Cuomo, which you've got a hundred times over, like Janice Dean has, has enveloped

00:08:18.660 you to the point where I think you're losing sight of who you're running against.

00:08:22.440 I go to your page. 0.99

00:08:23.780 I got to go 12 goddamn tweets before I see Momdani's name. 0.98

00:08:28.080 Let me tell you, I'm talking to WABC now. 0.99

00:08:31.620 I'm hurt.

00:08:32.540 I have armed security guards now protecting my life and Nancy's life.

00:08:38.540 I've been bribed by the billionaires to drop out of here.

00:08:41.660 If anything happens to me or anything happens to my wife because of this frenzy that I hear

00:08:48.740 constantly coming from some of your colleagues here at WABC, it's on you guys and you gals.

00:08:55.840 Even when the Gotti's and Gambino's put a hit on me, five hollow point bullets, I never 0.97

00:09:01.380 had armed security.

00:09:03.500 The frenzy that is coming out of people's mouths.

00:09:07.580 He's running a horrible campaign, Sid.

00:09:09.840 Can you at least acknowledge that?

00:09:11.520 No, I don't know because I want you or him to win.

00:09:14.640 Now we're 10 minutes in and you're still talking about Cuomo.

00:09:17.940 I mean, what's wrong with you?

00:09:19.300 You've got to beat Momdani.

00:09:20.880 You've got to get over it.

00:09:21.660 You're going to lose and you're going to lose badly, embarrassingly.

00:09:25.260 Do you know this?

00:09:26.100 You're the one who said that Cuomo would win the primary, didn't you?

00:09:30.100 No, no, no.

00:09:30.640 First, yes, I did.

00:09:31.600 And everybody else because nobody saw Momdani coming.

00:09:34.260 So stop with the Cuomo.

00:09:35.280 I saw Momdani coming.

00:09:36.500 Curtis, I talked to you.

00:09:37.520 No, you didn't.

00:09:38.400 No, you didn't.

00:09:39.660 WABC has turned on me.

00:09:41.140 This is not about ABC.

00:09:42.140 It's about Sid.

00:09:42.820 Forget about ABC.

00:09:43.540 No, no, no.

00:09:44.180 This is about WABC.

00:09:45.160 Curtis, you made your point about the station.

00:09:51.580 Now it's Sid and Curtis trying to have an adult conversation.

00:09:54.460 The way you're running your campaign right now, you're going to lose and lose badly.

00:09:58.260 You're still not talking about Momdani.

00:10:00.120 You're talking about WABC and Cuomo. 1.00

00:10:02.940 That's not going to win you this goddamn race. 0.99

00:10:04.920 So this is the position that New Yorkers are in. 0.99

00:10:10.580 You can hear Sid's frustration because he knows what we all know, which is Curtis is going

00:10:14.460 to lose and Momdani is going to win.

00:10:16.900 And the only possible way of stopping it at this point is for Curtis to drop out and to

00:10:21.000 beg his supporters to vote for Cuomo and for Cuomo to give Curtis a role high up in the

00:10:26.520 Cuomo administration if he were able to pull it off.

00:10:29.000 But even the polls suggest that even if he got every single one of the Curtis voters,

00:10:33.100 he'd still be behind Momdani.

00:10:35.220 So even that is not a guarantee.

00:10:36.740 This is all like desperation by the non Momdani fans to try to stop his momentum because he's 0.52

00:10:43.700 a wolf in sheep's clothing and he's charming and he smiles a lot.

00:10:47.420 He's a lot like Barack Obama, only I think far more radical.

00:10:50.700 This is a scary time for America, for New York.

00:10:56.580 You know, we've we've got got a Muslim mayor of Dearborn, Michigan, who's threatening to 1.00

00:11:01.340 throw out white people who object to certain disturbing behaviors over in the community, 0.79

00:11:08.200 calling them racists. 0.87

00:11:10.000 We've got Omar Fateh running for Minneapolis mayor.

00:11:13.600 This guy also Muslim.

00:11:15.340 Like, are these people what what exactly are they going to do to Minneapolis?

00:11:20.160 I mean, truly, because the Midwest is becoming heavily Muslim.

00:11:23.240 Do we care?

00:11:23.980 Does anyone care that Islam is not consistent with the patriotic goals of the First Amendment,

00:11:30.120 the Bill of Rights and the fundamental Judeo-Christian foundation of this country?

00:11:35.660 Does anyone care?

00:11:37.200 OK, you can call me a bigot.

00:11:38.860 I've been called it before.

00:11:39.600 I don't care.

00:11:40.640 This is not what we want.

00:11:42.000 We do not want city after city turning Muslim and electing Muslim leaders. 1.00

00:11:47.060 I just watched a half an hour interview with Momdani last night.

00:11:50.160 Where he was going on and on about the mosques in New York and driving up the Muslim population

00:11:56.980 and how it's his dream to see the BDS movement spread far and wide, you know, condemning Israel

00:12:03.440 and boycotting Israel and how his his whole reason for becoming a politician was Palestinian

00:12:08.880 rights.

00:12:09.960 That's the thing he cared most about, Palestinian rights.

00:12:12.200 By the time he actually got going on the mayoral campaign, he realized he had to start

00:12:16.160 had to start stop saying things like that.

00:12:19.020 He had to start saying, oh, all I care about is economic inequality in New York.

00:12:22.820 No, he actually said that was his number one thing, Palestinian rights.

00:12:26.680 And his dream was to bring more politicians like that into the fold in New York.

00:12:31.900 This is going to be the New York mayor.

00:12:33.100 So, I mean, it's go time on the decisions.

00:12:37.380 And don't like if this can happen in New York, this can happen in your city.

00:12:43.360 I'm sorry, but it's time to just say no.

00:12:45.920 I respectfully dissent.

00:12:48.100 You want to come over here as a Muslim. 1.00

00:12:49.980 You want to be raised as a Muslim. 1.00

00:12:51.040 You want to totally assimilate to American culture and values.

00:12:56.560 You're welcome.

00:12:57.240 But you talk about how your number one thing is Palestinian rights and your big push is

00:13:03.140 to boycott and divest from Israel and you want to run for mayor as New York while you're 0.99

00:13:08.980 literally embracing a terror-supporting imam and on a debate stage questioning why others

00:13:14.740 haven't been to this mosque or that in New York as though that's a requirement to become

00:13:21.640 mayor.

00:13:22.100 You're out.

00:13:22.680 Cuomo, his biggest shot at Momdani last night sounded just like his other big shot at Momdani

00:13:35.860 in the last debate.

00:13:37.300 Here it is in Sop 21.

00:13:39.580 And I allocated more funding for housing than any governor in the history of the state of

00:13:44.360 New York.

00:13:45.200 All right.

00:13:46.000 I did things.

00:13:47.280 You have never had a job.

00:13:49.180 You've never accomplished anything.

00:13:50.720 There's no reason to believe you have any merit or qualification for eight and a half million

00:13:55.500 lives.

00:13:56.200 You don't know how to run a government.

00:13:57.760 You don't know how to handle an emergency.

00:13:59.820 And you've literally never proposed a bill on anything that you're not talking about in

00:14:04.340 your campaign.

00:14:05.260 You had the worst attendance record in the assembly and you gave yourselves the highest raise in

00:14:11.380 the United States of America.

00:14:13.120 You went from $110,000 to $140,000.

00:14:15.780 And then you never showed up for work and you missed 80% of the votes.

00:14:20.000 Shame on you. 0.70

00:14:20.960 Shame on you.

00:14:22.780 It was good.

00:14:24.140 And it was more fiery than he was in the last debate.

00:14:25.940 But it wasn't great.

00:14:27.040 Where is the stuff I just said?

00:14:28.220 That's actually what's going to animate New Yorkers.

00:14:30.940 You're not going to get any one of the 9% Muslim voters, Andrew Cuomo.

00:14:35.600 Not one.

00:14:36.320 So don't bother pandering.

00:14:38.760 Like, just say what's real.

00:14:39.960 We all know what's real.

00:14:40.840 This guy is so radical.

00:14:44.520 It's incredible to me.

00:14:46.480 I feel like the voters of San Francisco would reject this guy.

00:14:50.420 And New York City, the main target of 9-11, is about to elect this guy who's not even sorry

00:14:59.100 for his bestie, imam, pillar of the community comments.

00:15:03.760 Here's what Mom Domi had to say about Cuomo.

00:15:09.540 He brought up the sex pest allegations, which, of course, of course he did.

00:15:13.540 It was a smart thing to do.

00:15:14.760 And he did it.

00:15:15.500 Sot 20.

00:15:16.340 One of those women, Charlotte Bennett, is here in the audience this evening. 0.99

00:15:23.980 You sought to access her private gynecological records.

00:15:29.240 She cannot speak up for herself because you lodged a defamation case against her.

00:15:34.720 I, however, can speak.

00:15:36.620 What do you say to the 13 women that you sexually harassed?

00:15:39.900 If you want to be in government, then you have to be serious and mature.

00:15:54.560 There were allegations of sexual harassment.

00:15:58.760 They were then, went to five district attorneys, fully litigated for four years.

00:16:03.600 The cases were dropped, right?

00:16:05.680 You know that as a fact.

00:16:07.300 So everything you just stated, you just said, was a misstatement.

00:16:11.740 Okay, just because a prosecutor didn't see crimes that were committed doesn't mean he

00:16:16.760 didn't do it.

00:16:17.560 Noticeably absent from his defense was, I didn't do it.

00:16:22.620 It isn't true.

00:16:24.840 Like, that would be a good place to start.

00:16:27.000 He can't say that, obviously.

00:16:28.600 We know why.

00:16:31.380 I don't, I mean, I think we all know what's going to happen in this race, and it's going 0.99

00:16:34.560 to be positively devastating for New York, and I'm very sad about it, really sad that

00:16:38.560 we're in this position.

00:16:39.180 It's a crown jewel of the United States, and we're about to hand it over to a radically

00:16:48.720 left person.

00:16:50.900 Some Republicans are excited about it because they're looking forward to making the point

00:16:54.120 about how radical Democrats are for this guy's term.

00:16:58.400 I get it, but it's not worth it.

00:17:00.460 And some Democrats are looking forward to it because they want socialism.

00:17:03.680 They actually think it's going to work no matter how many examples you give to them

00:17:06.860 of it not working, and you will run out of other people's money.

00:17:09.680 There's not enough.

00:17:10.560 Already, millionaires and billionaires are fleeing New York.

00:17:13.480 I told you the story the other day.

00:17:14.840 Even our apartment, which we sold in 2021, has lost 30% of its value just over the last

00:17:19.860 four years.

00:17:20.800 It's on the market again, and we saw that it's down 30% in the asking price from when

00:17:25.240 we sold it.

00:17:27.080 30%, almost like over 30%.

00:17:29.820 That's because people are fleeing.

00:17:31.280 They'll take any price right now to get out of the city.

00:17:35.800 Say a prayer for New York.

00:17:37.900 Okay, let's keep going.

00:17:40.620 Amazingly, in the news, the attacks on J.D. Vance have begun.

00:17:44.840 We're not even a year into Donald Trump's presidency, and already the left is laying the foundation,

00:17:50.700 which we knew they would, but it's already starting, that J.D. Vance is even scarier.

00:17:54.680 He's even more radical than Donald Trump.

00:17:57.060 But he's really the one that we have to fear. 0.96

00:17:59.560 This is Jen Psaki, who appeared on this crazy-ass podcast, which we talked about yesterday. 0.56

00:18:08.600 And I don't even know this person. 0.92

00:18:10.940 It's, I can't remember her name, but she's very radical. 0.98

00:18:13.740 Jennifer Welsh, is that her name? 0.81

00:18:15.920 Yeah. 1.00

00:18:16.220 She's a nutcase. 1.00

00:18:17.000 And she's been getting more and more vocal because she says really radical, weird, leftist things. 1.00

00:18:22.200 She's a moron. 1.00

00:18:23.200 She literally has no political background or anything else to recommend her opinion. 1.00

00:18:27.180 But here she is hosting Jen Psaki, and here are Jen Psaki's deep thoughts on J.D. Vance, Sot 16.

00:18:31.780 I think the little Manchurian candidate, J.D. Vance, wants to be president more than anything else.

00:18:42.280 I always wonder what's going on in the mind of his wife.

00:18:45.000 Like, are you okay?

00:18:45.960 Please blink four times.

00:18:47.360 We'll come over here.

00:18:49.040 We'll save you. 1.00

00:18:50.520 You're a bitch. 1.00

00:18:51.340 And that he's willing to do anything to get there. 1.00

00:18:53.380 I mean, he's scarier in certain ways.

00:18:55.820 He's smarter.

00:18:56.360 In some ways.

00:18:57.100 And he's young.

00:18:58.220 And ambitious.

00:18:59.280 And ambitious.

00:19:00.440 And agile in the sense that he is a chameleon who makes himself into whatever he thinks the audience wants to hear from him.

00:19:09.880 Now, what's also true, though, is J.D. Vance is not – he's in some ways goodish on paper, if you like what he believes in.

00:19:18.420 I don't know.

00:19:19.280 But I don't know that he can take the whole movement with him.

00:19:22.340 No way.

00:19:22.860 No way.

00:19:23.100 I don't think so either.

00:19:24.280 There's no risk.

00:19:25.320 These women know nothing. 0.99

00:19:26.360 He is, right?

00:19:27.140 And he's got – he just is a little odd.

00:19:30.680 And so Trump's odd in a different way.

00:19:33.080 So I'm skeptical of that.

00:19:34.460 So, yeah, he's got to – I mean, everything going on right now, and I think we have to be very clear-eyed about this, is about trying to manipulate the public around elections.

00:19:45.860 There's so much to digest there.

00:19:47.400 Okay.

00:19:48.220 The fact that these two far leftists – I don't know who the other Nimrod is next to that first hateful person.

00:19:52.860 But the fact that these two blonde women, these two Trump-hating blonde women whose only badge of honor is their hatred of Trump, their TDS, they're going to weigh in. 0.58

00:20:01.160 No way, J.D. Vance.

00:20:02.540 You don't know shit, you absolute fucking morons. 1.00

00:20:05.180 You know nothing. 1.00

00:20:05.860 You know nothing about MAGA.

00:20:06.860 You know nothing about J.D.

00:20:07.760 You know nothing about Trump. 1.00

00:20:09.160 And I love, love, love that some portion of the left is being misled by these three losers. 1.00

00:20:14.340 This is great. 0.97

00:20:15.060 This is wonderful for Team Sanity.

00:20:17.800 J.D. Vance 100% can do it.

00:20:19.520 He's going to do it.

00:20:20.540 Sorry to break it to you, ladies.

00:20:21.980 He's going to.

00:20:22.680 Why is a 46-year-old woman, Jen Psaki, using the term riz? 0.89

00:20:27.180 That's already been rejected by my 12-year-old.

00:20:30.100 Okay, so get with the program.

00:20:31.680 You only sound old when you try to sound like a prepubescent teenage boy or girl.

00:20:39.460 Okay, Jen, Dora, Dora the Explorer, that's how we see Jen Psaki. 1.00

00:20:45.260 Um, so she doesn't know what she's talking about.

00:20:47.980 She, the nerve of her to describe Usha as some sort of a hostage.

00:20:52.020 Now, listen, first of all, you're a white woman and you should not be talking about a brown woman this way.

00:20:57.380 Your party sets these rules and you have to live by them.

00:20:59.840 When a brown person has opinion of any kind, you have to put on your listening ears and maybe take a beat. 1.00

00:21:06.620 We've heard that from your side, all right?

00:21:09.120 So you are not allowed to say that Usha Vance is in a hostage situation just because she's married to the current vice president, whom she happens to adore.

00:21:18.260 Jen Psaki, I guarantee you don't know Usha Vance.

00:21:21.200 You've never spent two minutes with Usha Vance.

00:21:23.240 Those of us who have know one of the first things you notice about her is how deeply in love she is with her husband.

00:21:29.400 Why don't you read Hillbilly Elegy?

00:21:31.200 Why don't you listen to two minutes of what J.D. Vance has said in his public interviews?

00:21:34.280 These two have a classic, wonderful, moving, deep American love story.

00:21:41.280 In many ways, Usha saved J.D.

00:21:43.760 His whole life is a story of women coming to his rescue.

00:21:47.780 His big sister, Lindsay, when his mom was hooked on heroin and drugs and bringing man after man into their home, it was a rough upbringing.

00:21:55.680 His aunt, we, his grandma, of course, his mamaw, who was the primary and dominant figure in his life.

00:22:04.900 And then he went off to law school and it was Amy Chua, professor there, and Usha who saved him from the demons that can come from a lifetime of being brought up in that kind of an environment.

00:22:17.280 And those two have a relationship that will never be broken.

00:22:22.020 Usha is far from a hostage.

00:22:23.760 If anything, she's a rescuer.

00:22:25.620 She's somebody who swooped in and was exactly what J.D. Vance needed at exactly the right time.

00:22:31.000 And he had, I'm sure, and she hasn't spoken to me about this personally, but I'm sure, J.D.'s bare-knuckle brawling, you know, background and self-effacing personality and approach to life was probably very appealing to her.

00:22:49.480 She's from more of a buttoned-up background. 0.99

00:22:51.240 So, fuck off, Jen Psaki, for trying to psychoanalyze Usha as a hostage, which, again, according to the rules from your side, you're not allowed to do. 1.00

00:23:00.140 Put on your listening ears and maybe take a beat. 1.00

00:23:03.760 Then she refers to J.D. as a Manchurian candidate.

00:23:06.020 What does that mean?

00:23:07.420 Manchurian candidate is somebody who gets, like, sneaked into the presidential role and is controlled by a foreign country.

00:23:12.700 What foreign country is J.D. Vance controlled by?

00:23:14.900 Who's controlling him?

00:23:16.260 J.D. Vance is actually very focused on the United States of America.

00:23:19.460 He's the one, more than Trump even.

00:23:21.240 Who doesn't want us to get involved in these international conflicts and create situations where we might have no choice but to put American boots on the ground?

00:23:29.540 Who is controlling him?

00:23:31.500 Who is it?

00:23:32.560 You fail to say. 0.99

00:23:33.500 You just pass gratuitous insults off as somehow sophisticated political analysis, and the two morons across from you had no idea what you were saying, so they let it slide. 1.00

00:23:45.900 He's a chameleon. 0.99

00:23:46.980 She has the nerve to say he, J.D. Vance, is a chameleon. 0.73

00:23:49.780 This from Jen Psaki, whose nominee for the presidency a few months back was Kamala Harris. 0.95

00:23:56.840 Have you no decency, man?

00:23:59.560 Oh, my sorrow.

00:24:03.380 Joy cometh in the morning.

00:24:05.540 That, that Kamala Harris, I think you have your chameleons confused, Jen Psaki. 1.00

00:24:12.860 So, that's what's happening over on the left.

00:24:16.640 And by the way, a gratuitous insult that he's ambitious.

00:24:19.500 Right.

00:24:20.200 Like, literally every person who ever ran for vice president or president.

00:24:24.840 Okay.

00:24:25.100 I guess we can pretend it's just a J.D. Vance thing.

00:24:28.320 Whatever floats your boat.

00:24:30.060 Okay.

00:24:30.820 Let's keep going.

00:24:31.720 Sunny Hostin is out there with some comments about the white people in her neighborhood.

00:24:36.660 Now, not for nothing, but if you take a picture, if you take a look at Sunny Hostin over the years, she's getting progressively whiter.

00:24:43.300 Like, over and over in these pictures, she, I don't know what she's doing with her makeup or whatever, but she lives in a white neighborhood.

00:24:49.520 And she looks like, time after time, you see these photos of her where her makeup is about as light as mine is.

00:24:56.900 So, I don't know how she feels about white people, but every time she speaks out about them publicly, she's got the blonde hair tips and nine out of her ten appearances and whatever, she's ripping on them as racist. 0.99

00:25:07.280 So, I'm kind of confused about where she stands on whites.

00:25:10.900 The whites who live in her very tony neighborhood in Purchase, New York, she thinks are racists. 0.77

00:25:16.160 She surrounded herself with a bunch of racists and chosen to raise her children around a bunch of racists. 0.98

00:25:24.620 How do I know? 0.90

00:25:25.340 She just told us.

00:25:27.200 She was talking about how she allegedly had to go out there and warn the cops in her neighborhood about her son, who was running and training for the Junior Olympics, who is black, that he's hers.

00:25:43.440 Well, I'll let her tell you.

00:25:44.440 Watch. 0.68

00:25:46.060 As a mother of black children, I know that black boys are not given the presumption of innocence and the presumption of youth. 0.90

00:25:53.720 She's calling the police and saying they're trying to steal her car and they're 11 years old. 0.94

00:25:56.900 They don't know how to drive.

00:25:58.180 And so, for me, what was interesting was I have had to be in the position where I have gone to my local police department because I know my son is going to be training for the Junior Olympics, running around the neighborhood in an all-white neighborhood.

00:26:09.120 And I have brought him to the police and said, he belongs to me.

00:26:12.740 This is my son.

00:26:13.980 Do not harass him.

00:26:14.820 Do not stop him.

00:26:15.500 Okay.

00:26:17.140 She was talking about this new Netflix show that is called The Perfect Neighbor that documents a white woman shooting and killing dead her black neighbor through a closed door.

00:26:28.800 They had been having some sort of a dispute, and it had been getting more and more heated, and the black neighbor's children had bothered in some way the white woman. 0.84

00:26:39.560 They had a heated exchange, and the black mother came over to, you know, settle the dispute in some way, and this white woman shot her through the front door. 1.00

00:26:48.640 By the way, the woman was charged with manslaughter with a firearm.

00:26:52.940 She tried to argue self-defense and stand your ground.

00:26:55.440 It didn't work.

00:26:56.100 The jury found her guilty.

00:26:56.940 She was sentenced to 25 years in prison, so that's what happened in that case, and Sunny Hostin wants to liken her neighborhood, and apparently her neighbors, to this woman, talking about how I guess she thinks she's surrounded by racists, and she had to go down to the local police to say, he's mine.

00:27:14.440 What does this mean?

00:27:15.380 He's mine?

00:27:16.620 So I guess he gets, like, her son went to Harvard.

00:27:19.500 She's still trying to pass him off like he's a Trayvon Martin character.

00:27:24.060 Would you take a seat and calm down? 0.98

00:27:25.820 If you think you're surrounded by so many white racists and racist cops, why don't you move? 1.00

00:27:32.960 You don't need to live. 0.99

00:27:33.720 Oh, I'll tell you why.

00:27:34.700 Because she's living in a multi-million dollar mansion. 0.99

00:27:37.400 Here's the video.

00:27:38.580 She sat for, she let People Magazine come in and take video of it.

00:27:42.820 Look at this palace. 0.99

00:27:43.620 This is poor Sunny Hostin, who basically wants you to think she's living in some, you know, working class, terrible white neighborhood with a bunch of white racist backwaters who hate black kids with their white racist cop force who wants to kill her black boy who's just jogging through the neighborhood. 1.00

00:28:05.000 This is such a bunch of bullshit. 1.00

00:28:06.720 She lives like a queen. 1.00

00:28:08.740 Her son went to Harvard.

00:28:10.620 They're fine.

00:28:11.900 Most people would give their eye teeth to get a house like this and purchase New York.

00:28:15.800 So why doesn't she just S-T-F-U? 0.99

00:28:19.300 I've had it with these fakers who have all the advantages of being born and living in America and the American dream coming true for them. 1.00

00:28:27.300 She's a successful attorney.

00:28:28.620 In addition to this job on The Viewer, she gets millions of dollars a year and still can't let go of this underprivileged status. 1.00

00:28:37.280 Like, I'm just a victim of racism everywhere, and my poor Harvard-educated son is too, and these racist cops would have killed him.

00:28:46.440 They would have shot him on his runs had I not paid a visit to say, he is mine, Sunny Hostin, so this one you have to let live.

00:28:55.220 What world is she living in? 0.74

00:28:57.980 It's completely made up.

00:29:00.980 It's made up.

00:29:02.800 There's no gratitude for what this country's given her.

00:29:05.440 Zero.

00:29:06.360 She's not grateful, just like Michelle Obama.

00:29:09.360 Not grateful at all.

00:29:11.900 She's another Corrine Jean-Pierre.

00:29:13.680 All about race. 0.87

00:29:14.960 It's all about her race. 1.00

00:29:16.160 That's what leads for her whenever she enters a room, no matter how many blessings the country has bestowed on her, and it's pathetic.

00:29:24.780 All right, we've got to move on because my next guest is in a very, very heated race, and the future of the Commonwealth of Virginia does depend on her winning it. 0.97

00:29:34.380 But, unfortunately, her adversary, who appears to actually be a true coward. 0.57

00:29:40.260 I mean, you watch this Abigail Spanberger in these debates, and all you think is this is a coward. 0.78

00:29:46.280 She won't stand up for girls' rights or women's rights when it comes to the trans issue.

00:29:50.220 She won't stand up for the rights of Virginians versus illegals, and she won't even stand up for people who are across the aisle from her who are being threatened with murder, or their children are, by the radical who's running to be attorney general on the same ticket she's on, the Dems.

00:30:10.200 So, up next is Virginia governor candidate, the current lieutenant governor of Virginia, Winsome Earl Sears.

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00:34:00.600 All month, we've been telling you about the fallout of Democrat Virginia Attorney General

00:34:12.060 candidate Jay Jones's sick texts, where he fantasizes about the murder of a Republican

00:34:17.780 colleague and the murder of that colleague's children.

00:34:21.020 The scandal's having a big impact in the Virginia attorney general's race and has led to a tightening

00:34:27.640 at the gubernatorial level as well.

00:34:30.340 Here's a reminder of the viral moment from the October 9th debate between Republican

00:34:36.560 Winsome Earl Sears and Democrat Abigail Spanberger, both running for governor.

00:34:41.440 Why my opponent won't say beyond its abhorrent and disgusting, why she won't say it is not

00:34:52.340 okay and that he must leave the race because Jay Jones advocated the murder, Abigail, the

00:34:58.820 murder of a man, a former speaker, as well as his children who were two years, two and

00:35:06.100 five years old.

00:35:06.980 You have little girls.

00:35:08.420 What would it take him pulling the trigger?

00:35:11.320 Is that what would do it?

00:35:12.760 And then you would say he needs to get out of the race, Abigail? 0.82

00:35:16.600 You have nothing to say, Abigail?

00:35:20.760 What if he said it about your two children, your three children?

00:35:24.920 Is that when you would say he should get out of the race, Abigail?

00:35:30.420 You're running to be governor.

00:35:33.460 For the listening audience, Abigail Spanberger just stands staring blankly ahead.

00:35:38.880 Does not look at Winsome Sears, does not make a comment, has no comment, and that's

00:35:43.760 clear.

00:35:44.700 The polls have tightened a bit since the scandal erupted, but the Democrat Spanberger still

00:35:48.800 leads by about six points in the Real Clear Politics average of polls.

00:35:53.060 Here now to tell us what to expect in the final 12 days before the election, Lieutenant Governor

00:35:57.320 of Virginia Winsome Earl Sears.

00:36:00.140 Thank you so much for coming on, Lieutenant Governor.

00:36:02.080 It's a pleasure to meet you.

00:36:03.220 I'm worried.

00:36:04.880 I'm worried because I want you to win, but she's been leading in every single poll that's

00:36:09.140 been taken.

00:36:09.720 I can't find one in which you're leading.

00:36:11.140 So what can be done in 12 days?

00:36:14.200 Well, you saw what happened in one night, and there are all kinds of things that are

00:36:19.480 happening.

00:36:20.380 But we have the poll, and the poll, and she's not acting, by the way, Abigail Spanberger is 1.00

00:36:25.320 not acting like she's seven points ahead.

00:36:27.760 You look at her, and she knows that her polls are telling her what our polls are telling

00:36:32.600 us, that we're either minus two, we're break-even, or I'm up two.

00:36:38.740 And that's why you see that she's doing all she's doing.

00:36:41.080 She's pulling out all the stops.

00:36:42.320 She's bringing everybody in the world that she thinks she will help her, but it won't

00:36:46.780 help her because it really comes back down to common sense.

00:36:50.220 It comes back down to she is not supportive of a different political side.

00:36:55.520 You know, her nominee for Attorney General, Jay Jones, advocated for political murder.

00:37:02.160 And she says, what?

00:37:04.120 She's disgusted.

00:37:05.040 Is that all?

00:37:05.800 She's disgusted about political murder.

00:37:08.700 Well, yeah, she's not going to make it because the people of Virginia want somebody with a 1.00

00:37:13.280 backbone and not cunning.

00:37:16.180 After that debate, she went on just the other day with Katie Couric, and this subject came

00:37:19.980 up again, and she seemed more irritated about how the texts came out than she did about the

00:37:25.760 content of them.

00:37:26.700 Let me play you, Sat 36.

00:37:29.480 He wrote some texts, and they were released basically advocating for political violence

00:37:35.900 against his opponent.

00:37:37.420 And the Democrats in your state and other states, I understand, have renounced his rhetoric,

00:37:43.920 but they have not called for him to drop out of the race.

00:37:48.920 And I'm just curious, why is that?

00:37:51.760 I think there's a couple elements here, and I'll speak broadly, but also reflecting my own

00:37:56.600 opinions.

00:37:57.080 You know, these texts are years old, and so they have been held for years and not released

00:38:06.820 over the summer, where it would have been a valuable bit of information for voters to

00:38:11.820 have.

00:38:12.780 There could have been a different name put on the ballot.

00:38:15.860 And so people can choose how they view these texts and view, frankly, the actions of the

00:38:25.900 last four years of our current attorney general, who's running for re-election.

00:38:30.700 And certainly, you know, I make no bones about it.

00:38:33.980 The decision is harder.

00:38:36.220 These texts were abhorrent.

00:38:38.140 But it is ultimately up to individual voters to make a decision at this moment in terms of

00:38:44.160 how they wish to proceed.

00:38:46.220 Your thoughts on that answer?

00:38:48.760 Yeah.

00:38:49.440 So what you saw there is Abigail Spamberger is not a profile in courage.

00:38:53.140 And all she cares about is when the text came out.

00:38:56.560 What does it matter?

00:38:57.640 It matters that murder was advocated for one's political opponent, Jay Jones.

00:39:02.900 And Jay Jones also advocated for the murder, two bullets to the head, of his little children,

00:39:09.040 two and five years old at the time.

00:39:10.960 And she's concerned about when it came.

00:39:14.040 You know what?

00:39:14.580 What I think about now is that Katie Couric's sister was a senator, a state senator right

00:39:21.960 here in Virginia.

00:39:23.300 And certainly I'm thinking that Katie is thinking there's something incongruent with all this.

00:39:29.840 That as a matter of fact, we had a Democratic governor, Ralph Northam, and he was found to

00:39:37.840 be either the one under the KKK sheets or the one in blackface. 0.71

00:39:43.740 And that was 30 some years ago.

00:39:45.680 And still the Democrats called for him to leave office.

00:39:49.320 These text messages advocating for murder were three years old.

00:39:53.680 And we're still talking about murder.

00:39:56.100 And Abigail, instead of her saying, well, you know, we've just got to get you out of the

00:40:00.740 race.

00:40:01.100 No, no, no.

00:40:01.700 She says the people of Virginia must decide.

00:40:04.560 Again, not a profile in courage.

00:40:07.160 She knows what to do.

00:40:08.620 So it doesn't mean that as a Republican, we are not safe.

00:40:11.380 But remember, Abigail is also the one who told her supporters, let your rage fuel you.

00:40:17.820 What rage, Abigail? 0.95

00:40:19.340 And fuel what, Abigail? 0.61

00:40:21.480 And against whom or to what end, Abigail?

00:40:24.320 You're running to be governor.

00:40:26.080 These people who say, these Democrats who say that they love everyone more than any Republican,

00:40:31.700 ever could.

00:40:33.200 Actually, they don't.

00:40:34.700 And the ones who say, these Democrats, that they are so very tolerant, aren't exactly tolerant.

00:40:40.800 Unless, of course, you believe their own views.

00:40:44.400 We can't have somebody like this in Virginia.

00:40:46.920 So that's why you see the polls have tightened.

00:40:49.760 She knows the truth.

00:40:51.140 We're going to win this.

00:40:53.520 What do you make of the fact that she refuses to be clear on whether she would rescind Governor

00:40:59.500 Youngkin's executive order banning boys from girls' spaces, saying you cannot have boys

00:41:04.800 in girls' locker rooms and bathrooms and so on.

00:41:06.620 She seems to want to have it both ways because her position, if you sift through it and it

00:41:11.860 takes some time, seems to be, I think it's up to the locals.

00:41:15.360 Let the locals decide.

00:41:16.740 But she won't just come out and say, I'm going to rescind the order.

00:41:19.740 She wants to sort of pacify.

00:41:21.380 So what do you make of that?

00:41:22.640 And what will happen on that issue if she becomes governor? 1.00

00:41:26.400 We already know what's going to happen.

00:41:28.280 She's going to make sure that all of Virginia adheres to boys being fully undressed in locker 0.95

00:41:34.740 rooms with girls and men also, because it's happening in Virginia where adult men are now

00:41:39.840 going into girls' locker rooms and bathrooms, et cetera.

00:41:43.500 And the reason I say that is because she didn't just support that idea.

00:41:47.880 She voted for it.

00:41:49.360 So let's just see what the voting record says.

00:41:53.380 And she's trying to run from that record. 0.87

00:41:55.880 So let's not ask if she supports.

00:41:57.780 She voted for it.

00:41:58.620 It's what she wants.

00:41:59.460 And when I asked her point blank on the debate stage, what if your young child, your little

00:42:04.620 girl came to you crying that she was forced to undress in front of a man in the locker room?

00:42:09.780 What would you say to her?

00:42:11.340 And Abigail said nothing.

00:42:13.780 She had a smirk on her face.

00:42:15.300 She adjusted her posture and, you know, like, who are you to talk to me?

00:42:19.780 Who are you?

00:42:20.380 You know, but that's why we're going to win, because people see the real Abigail and it 0.78

00:42:27.820 doesn't look like she cares.

00:42:29.720 Well, that's I can't believe she's doing as well as she's doing.

00:42:32.420 I realize Virginia has gone blue and Trump didn't win Virginia, though it was tight, tighter

00:42:38.960 than expected, but it's just gotten so blue from all those D.C.

00:42:43.540 federal government workers who live in northern Virginia.

00:42:46.620 But given everything that's happened in Loudoun County with the girl being the victim of a

00:42:51.600 sexual assault in a bathroom by a boy, we've had a couple of incidents there.

00:42:56.500 There's another big case in the news where a so-called trans boy, a girl pretending to

00:43:00.580 be a boy, went into a boy's locker room and started recording actual boys.

00:43:04.640 And the and the boys got suspended from school for objecting to like Virginia's lost its mind

00:43:10.600 on this issue.

00:43:11.360 I can't believe there's not still a majority who see the insanity and are ready to vote

00:43:16.400 for you and not her.

00:43:17.580 This must be a deal breaker.

00:43:19.920 Well, some people in Virginia have lost their minds, but the people with common sense haven't.

00:43:24.560 And my policies will work for Democrats, children, independents, children, Republicans,

00:43:29.960 children.

00:43:31.080 Here's what we do know to be true in Virginia.

00:43:33.560 When the real polls are being looked at, and that's where people are actually showing up

00:43:39.020 because, you know, we've early voting started way in September 19th, those polls that are

00:43:44.380 Republican leaning, we are showing up at 80 to 90 percent to vote.

00:43:50.300 In the Democratic polls, they are showing up at 50 to 60 percent.

00:43:56.040 So those are the polls that really matter.

00:43:58.220 And we have been winning every single week since voting started.

00:44:03.180 And we are still converting people.

00:44:05.240 The debate is converting people.

00:44:07.640 Subsequent actions after the debate still converting people.

00:44:11.640 And just today I was hearing about one gentleman.

00:44:14.860 He said there are five women who are Democrats in his office, absolute Democrats.

00:44:19.100 And one of them came and said, I'm going to vote for Winsome.

00:44:22.240 And another few are not far behind.

00:44:25.320 So we are turning hearts and minds because people just want to live in peace.

00:44:30.380 You know, you do what you want to do and let me live, too.

00:44:33.760 Don't want to control my life.

00:44:35.780 What is really turning people, I think, also are the pocketbook issues.

00:44:39.940 I don't want to pay more in taxes.

00:44:41.580 I worked hard for this money.

00:44:43.720 I ought to be able to keep as much of it as possible.

00:44:46.180 We've returned nine billion dollars back to Virginians.

00:44:48.980 B, nine billion.

00:44:50.160 They like that.

00:44:51.340 Abigail was never a part of any of that.

00:44:52.960 Doesn't know how to do it.

00:44:54.200 We brought all these jobs to Virginia.

00:44:56.280 Just announced a three three point five billion dollar Merck investment in Virginia.

00:45:01.260 A four point five billion dollar investment from AstraZeneca.

00:45:05.760 A five billion dollar investment in Virginia from Eli Lilly.

00:45:10.140 These are real jobs.

00:45:11.620 These are real families.

00:45:12.960 This is creating generational wealth.

00:45:15.540 Buy a house.

00:45:16.300 Get on the path to having a will so we can have something to fight over.

00:45:21.300 I mean, these are real issues.

00:45:23.480 Keeping people safe.

00:45:24.680 No sanctuary state in Virginia.

00:45:26.620 We have found four thousand criminals who are illegally here on their way to some form

00:45:32.180 of deportation.

00:45:33.240 The number three MS-13 gang leader right here.

00:45:36.440 Trandaragua.

00:45:37.680 Cartels coming in as Chinese party leaders.

00:45:40.220 They are gone.

00:45:41.280 My opponent, Abigail Spanberger, has voted to keep every single one of them here when 0.91

00:45:45.980 she voted against the Lincoln Riley Act.

00:45:48.060 Let me play.

00:45:48.600 Let me play her on this issue on whether the local police and the state police should cooperate

00:45:53.660 with ICE.

00:45:54.840 This is her in June.

00:45:56.300 Sup 40.

00:45:58.000 Anyone who has violated the law, committed a crime should be prosecuted.

00:46:03.960 And ultimately, if they don't have legal status, deported after that.

00:46:08.080 Right.

00:46:08.220 That's in the criminal space.

00:46:10.120 But the use of local police and state police resources to enforce civil immigration infractions,

00:46:20.260 not only is it not actually doing the work of ensuring that those who have committed crimes

00:46:28.280 are out of our communities or held accountable.

00:46:31.300 But it's actually a distraction of resources, both in terms of personnel hours and money from

00:46:39.900 actually keeping our community safe from, you know, any sort of community, you know, by

00:46:44.260 ensuring any type of community policing, let alone any sort of law enforcement action.

00:46:49.760 What's your response to that, that it's a distraction that the cops should focus on local crime?

00:46:54.540 Yeah.

00:46:54.860 Oh, my God, Megan.

00:46:55.680 I'm surprised that you even know what she said.

00:46:57.960 It's a word salad.

00:46:59.520 I mean, where do we even start?

00:47:01.160 And then there's also the fact, I mean, she seems so tortured, tortured.

00:47:05.000 I was exhausted watching her.

00:47:06.900 I mean, her whole body.

00:47:08.660 It's very simple.

00:47:10.240 If you're a criminal and you're illegally here, you've got to go. 0.99

00:47:13.880 Why do we want you? 1.00

00:47:14.900 And we're talking about the worst kinds of criminals, pedophiles, murderers, rapists, 1.00

00:47:19.400 Abigail's hamburger. 1.00

00:47:20.420 This isn't hard.

00:47:21.900 You've got to go.

00:47:22.660 Why do we want to keep criminals here?

00:47:25.120 You said you came, well, for an opportunity, but you didn't.

00:47:28.940 You're taking the opportunity to prey on us.

00:47:31.180 And ICE wants them gone.

00:47:32.580 We want them gone.

00:47:33.500 We must live in peace.

00:47:34.800 Our children must be able to walk the streets.

00:47:36.600 Our business inventory must be safe, et cetera.

00:47:39.580 We can't have her.

00:47:41.000 Abigail doesn't know how any of this works.

00:47:43.280 As a matter of fact, she's going to need on-the-job training, but she's not going to get it because

00:47:47.180 I've been doing the work.

00:47:48.800 Where has Abigail been?

00:47:49.960 Oh, that's right.

00:47:50.960 Hiding.

00:47:51.460 One of 435 in Congress.

00:47:53.860 And now she has to stand on her own.

00:47:55.960 She can't do it.

00:47:57.100 I'm ready to take command on day one.

00:47:59.580 I'm a Marine.

00:48:00.380 I know how to do this.

00:48:01.360 I love that, that you served your country honorably for a few years and the United States Marine

00:48:05.420 Corps.

00:48:05.820 Thank you for doing that.

00:48:07.320 I wanted to, unlike, we did a segment before you came on talking about a little bit about

00:48:12.120 Corrine Jean-Pierre and Sonny Hostin too, who always, always lead with race.

00:48:16.580 They're obsessed with their own race.

00:48:18.400 Corrine Jean-Pierre has failed to not, she has made sure to mention the fact that she is 0.97

00:48:22.980 black and quote queer. 0.97

00:48:24.480 In every interview she's done to promote her book, you're the opposite. 0.99

00:48:28.300 You happen to be black. 0.93

00:48:29.180 I never hear you make an issue out of this. 0.90

00:48:31.360 It seems like a totally different approach to race and the fact that you, you know,

00:48:36.000 your, your blackness is incidental to who you are. 0.97

00:48:38.760 Can you just speak to that a bit?

00:48:40.200 Because I'm overwhelmed with the obsession on this issue of, on the left.

00:48:45.660 Let me tell you, you know, who always reminds me that I'm black?

00:48:49.000 The Democrats.

00:48:50.260 And it's in some racist form or other.

00:48:53.060 And yet they're the ones who supposedly love black people than more than Republicans.

00:48:57.960 And they're supposed to love women more than Republicans.

00:49:00.500 And apparently there's also supposed to love immigrants more than Republicans.

00:49:04.660 Well, where is the love?

00:49:06.600 Show me the love.

00:49:07.720 Don't tell me you love me.

00:49:09.080 Show me.

00:49:09.540 But of course we know it's not true.

00:49:11.840 You know, these Democrats, thankfully it's not all of them, but some of them, they're fighting

00:49:16.900 the civil war all over again.

00:49:19.120 They will never let the wounds heal.

00:49:21.360 They keep ripping the scab off, ripping the bandage off because it serves their own purpose.

00:49:27.420 Meanwhile, the rest of us, we just want to get on with our lives.

00:49:30.380 I mean, here I am.

00:49:31.360 Here I am, Megan.

00:49:32.340 In Virginia, I have to win my own race as lieutenant governor on my own.

00:49:37.240 The governor does not choose me.

00:49:38.960 The people of Virginia choose me.

00:49:41.100 And so the Republican Party nominated me.

00:49:43.860 Think about that. 0.67

00:49:44.440 The big, bad Republicans nominated me, a female Black immigrant.

00:49:49.200 And then the people of Virginia chose me.

00:49:52.020 I am second in command, Reagan, in the former capital of the Confederate states.

00:49:57.340 My God, have we not changed?

00:49:59.480 Have we not changed?

00:50:00.820 Why do we keep doing this to each other?

00:50:02.880 Let's just get on with our lives.

00:50:04.360 Let's live long and prosper.

00:50:06.000 You know, I'm a Star Trek fan.

00:50:07.700 Let's allow people to be.

00:50:09.800 We care about the pocketbook issues again.

00:50:12.520 Are my children being educated?

00:50:14.500 Am I going to be safe?

00:50:16.040 How are you going to help me?

00:50:17.600 Are you going to make my life harder than it already is?

00:50:20.260 Are you going to break down the barriers?

00:50:22.760 What are you going to do?

00:50:24.220 That's what the people want to know.

00:50:25.660 Not these constants, you know, race, race, race, and more race. 0.95

00:50:29.580 And overcomer.

00:50:31.080 And, you know, all this nonsense.

00:50:33.000 Come on.

00:50:34.740 I am an overcomer.

00:50:36.120 Our children are overcomers.

00:50:37.660 Typical of the left, however, the people who have been hurling racist insults at you have

00:50:44.440 been leftists.

00:50:45.300 We saw this sign at a rally held up by a leftist that reads, hey, Winsome, if trans can't share 0.99

00:50:52.060 your bathroom, then blacks can't share my water fountain. 1.00

00:50:55.860 Not sure it gets more racist than that. 0.98

00:50:58.520 Then there was this leftist at a ball game the other day who offered the following, forgive

00:51:05.020 me for playing it.

00:51:06.000 This guy's name is Scott Pogarik, and shouted that you should go back to Haiti, from which

00:51:12.800 you do not hail, but let's just look at it.

00:51:14.740 It's at 39.

00:51:15.260 Turns out this guy works for Lockheed Martin, which is now looking into these allegations.

00:51:33.480 He's, I think, suspended for the time being.

00:51:35.140 Your thoughts on what you've been subjected to by the tolerant left?

00:51:39.480 It's not anything new to me, actually.

00:51:41.660 When I first ran for office 20-some years ago, 2001, I ran for our house, and I was told

00:51:49.500 the very same things back then.

00:51:51.420 And in fact, I was called everything but a child of God.

00:51:54.340 And all I was doing was running for office.

00:51:57.320 And by the way, I had death threats back then, and they were so credible that my house and

00:52:02.220 my phones were wired by the state police.

00:52:04.180 I had children. 0.96

00:52:05.520 And my mother called me from Jamaica and said, they're going to kill you. 0.82

00:52:08.640 And I said, no, Mom, they don't do that in America.

00:52:11.020 So, you know, I've had the brunt of this.

00:52:13.660 I even had to take a protective order out against my opponent's supporter.

00:52:17.580 And he violated it and was subsequently jailed.

00:52:20.720 And guess who his attorney was?

00:52:22.480 My opponent.

00:52:24.280 And so, you see, this is nothing new.

00:52:26.240 I'm used to this.

00:52:27.300 I'm back into politics after being gone for 20 years.

00:52:30.660 And apparently, we still need a whole lot of prayer, Megan.

00:52:33.700 So, you're a woman running against a woman. 0.79

00:52:37.320 Enter another woman, Mika Brzezinski, with this searing analysis.

00:52:41.340 Take a listen to this one.

00:52:42.900 It's not 35.

00:52:43.400 It really is incredible when you have Abigail Spanberg or Mikey Sherrill, her background,

00:52:48.400 all the different jobs that she has held in the military.

00:52:53.560 And also, like, Alyssa Slotkin.

00:52:55.880 I mean, my God, these women are incredible. 1.00

00:52:58.680 And to them, I would say, fight, fight, fight.

00:53:02.140 Because we need them.

00:53:04.320 I mean, this is something that a lot of Democrats are grappling with right now.

00:53:07.240 So, they've nominated women two of the last three elections for the presidency, lost both. 0.96

00:53:12.500 There are some who say, well, we can't do that again.

00:53:14.580 The stakes are too high.

00:53:15.820 But, of course, that does fall into the same misogynistic trap.

00:53:18.660 Other countries have no problem electing women. 1.00

00:53:23.880 Your thoughts on how this applies to you, who she mentioned?

00:53:27.920 Apparently, I'm not a woman.

00:53:29.600 Is that right?

00:53:30.440 Misogynists think that we're not elected.

00:53:32.400 I mean, Megan, I know I'm a woman.

00:53:35.800 Nobody has to tell me that.

00:53:37.240 I know I'm a woman.

00:53:38.220 I can spot a woman. 1.00

00:53:39.600 I mean, this is nonsense.

00:53:41.500 Do they think that Republican women don't count? 0.95

00:53:44.600 And what about the credibility of being in running for office?

00:53:48.360 I mean, I led a men's prison ministry.

00:53:50.620 I had a women's homeless shelter. 0.98

00:53:52.660 Mopped the floors at a food pantry.

00:53:55.040 But had my own business.

00:53:56.580 I've been the CEO of businesses.

00:53:58.760 A Marine Corps veteran.

00:54:00.360 I mean, I have done it, you name it.

00:54:02.660 Now, Chamber of Commerce, you know, led programs, et cetera.

00:54:05.840 Worked for other politicians.

00:54:08.060 I mean, come on.

00:54:09.380 What else do I need to do to prove that I'm quite capable?

00:54:13.560 And here I am also, Lieutenant Governor.

00:54:16.920 Is that not enough?

00:54:18.360 And then I was elected again 20 years ago to the House of Delegates and got bills passed bipartisan?

00:54:26.980 You know, these Democrats, I don't think they stand for anything.

00:54:30.080 Apparently, Republican women don't count. 1.00

00:54:33.740 How helpful would it be to get an explicit Trump endorsement?

00:54:37.060 He said very nice things about you.

00:54:38.980 He said the Republican candidate is very good.

00:54:40.920 She should win.

00:54:41.860 He definitely wants you to win.

00:54:43.320 But he hasn't done the full Trump endorsement like on True Social.

00:54:47.240 And I mean, I don't even know.

00:54:48.780 Would it be helpful for Trump to do any campaigning for you, given how purple Virginia is and how

00:54:54.680 he didn't ultimately win the state?

00:54:56.940 This can cut both ways for a Republican.

00:54:58.440 Well, we welcome whatever strategy that the president has.

00:55:05.440 You know, he's got a lot of people advising him, and that's good.

00:55:08.120 Trying to keep these microphones and they don't want to say it.

00:55:12.000 But yes, whatever opportunities are available with the president, we welcome them.

00:55:17.760 You know, look, people understand what the parameters of this campaign are all about.

00:55:23.620 It is not lost on them that I have supported President Trump.

00:55:26.840 And so and even if it were, my opponent has been telling everyone that anyway.

00:55:32.480 So we all know what's happening.

00:55:35.160 We're going to win.

00:55:36.260 We're going to win because we have the right ideas.

00:55:38.600 And again, the right ideas and the common sense ideas where they're trying to paint me,

00:55:43.100 the Democrats, as, you know, somebody who will not look out for the people.

00:55:47.080 But of course, the people know better.

00:55:49.000 Again, I didn't run a men's prison ministry for two years if I didn't care.

00:55:53.100 I am not soft on crime, not by any stretch.

00:55:56.040 But I don't believe in throwing people away either.

00:55:58.880 So we're going to hold you accountable.

00:56:00.540 But then we're going to make sure that you leave incarceration better than you came in.

00:56:04.720 Because we need you to be the moms and dads that your children need to be.

00:56:07.780 What what most concerns you, before I let you go, about the possibility of a Spanberger victory?

00:56:16.600 I am not concerned because she's not going to win.

00:56:19.560 We're making it.

00:56:20.640 As I said, we're making the case.

00:56:22.420 The people are showing us that they're coming to the polls and they're thinking.

00:56:26.380 They know that we were the ones, the Yankin Sears administration,

00:56:31.140 that provided all the economic benefits that they're seeing.

00:56:35.040 She, Abigail, was never a part of any of this.

00:56:37.620 She's going to drive businesses away. 1.00

00:56:39.380 She's going to force everybody to join a union, whether they want to or not. 1.00

00:56:43.880 She's gotten over, what, $1.5 million now from unions.

00:56:48.180 Winsome has gotten zero, which means they know, the unions know,

00:56:51.720 who will force people to join unions.

00:56:53.920 My opponent, Abigail, has voted for that in Congress.

00:56:57.040 They know that they're not going to be safe with her because she's going to get rid of our police. 0.90

00:57:01.920 She's going to defund them and she's going to get rid of their qualified immunity, 0.98

00:57:05.080 which is why I have 81 different sheriffs, a historic number, supporting me.

00:57:12.220 And they're Democrats, Republicans, and independents.

00:57:14.720 I mean, all the signs are pointing to that we're going to win despite these polls.

00:57:20.340 Well, we will continue watching it.

00:57:22.980 We wish you all the best of luck, Lieutenant Governor Winsome Earl Sears.

00:57:26.160 Thanks so much for being here.

00:57:28.360 Thank you.

00:57:28.980 Wow, that's a big one, Virginia.

00:57:32.900 Go out and vote.

00:57:36.440 How can you go from Glenn Youngkin to Abigail Spanberger?

00:57:41.480 Truly, like, how could you do it?

00:57:43.760 Talk about a downgrade.

00:57:46.240 And not for nothing, I think I told this story, but I'm just going to remind you,

00:57:49.180 this is what a good man Glenn Youngkin is.

00:57:51.460 When I went to the Charlie Kirk event at Virginia Tech,

00:57:54.320 and by the way, Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin did not need to go to that.

00:57:57.380 This was right after Charlie died, and it was two weeks after.

00:58:02.180 And tensions were still high, and he showed up anyway.

00:58:06.100 And he did not have to do that.

00:58:07.900 You know, originally, it was just going to be yours, truly, and Charlie.

00:58:09.860 So he was a late hitter, and he went willingly.

00:58:13.760 And he shows up there.

00:58:15.780 I think I told you this.

00:58:16.660 He led us in a prayer before we went out there,

00:58:18.440 which really settled everybody's nerves.

00:58:20.220 And then on top of that, when he left, he came with a great security force,

00:58:23.220 because he's the sitting governor.

00:58:24.300 When he left, he left the security force for me.

00:58:27.380 He was so sweet.

00:58:29.240 I mean, he's the governor, right?

00:58:31.060 But he wanted me to feel safe and be safe.

00:58:34.260 Total classy, great guy.

00:58:36.480 You're going to follow up that act with Abigail Spanberger? 1.00

00:58:42.000 Why not go for the person who will carry on the Youngkin legacy? 0.98

00:58:47.200 Winsome Earl Sears has shown courage.

00:58:49.600 She served our country honorably.

00:58:51.060 She's standing up for girls and for women.

00:58:54.240 She will protect Virginians against the crime being committed by illegals and by others, 1.00

00:58:59.440 because she's in favor of a robust police force. 1.00

00:59:02.660 There's no contest here.

00:59:05.020 Just, I really hope the Republicans who are sitting on the couch and thinking it doesn't matter,

00:59:11.740 get off the couch and make sure they go and cast their vote for her. 1.00

00:59:15.300 She needs the help.

00:59:16.100 You know, I know she says the internal polls, but let's be honest, those rarely come through in the end.

00:59:21.880 The public polling has her behind in every poll, but she doesn't have to stay behind. 0.87

00:59:26.480 There are 12 days yet to go.

00:59:28.040 You can get off your couch and go vote for her.

00:59:30.240 And I urge you to do it.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - October 23, 2025

Megyn Kelly Makes the Reluctant Case For Cuomo, and Winsome Earle-Sears on the Racism and Misogyny of the Left ｜ Ep. 1178

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