The Megyn Kelly Show - Megyn's Tribute to Her Sister, and Media Lying to Cover for Fetterman： Part One with Sean Parnell ｜ Ep. 421

00:00:00.480 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.

00:00:11.560 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:15.220 We have got a lot of news to get to today, and we intend to do just that.

00:00:20.340 But first, if you'll permit me, a personal moment.

00:00:23.260 But my sister, Suzanne Crosley, was a firecracker. 1.00

00:00:29.940 Strong, funny, wise, but still vulnerable.

00:00:34.760 She was born on June 5th, 1964, in Nyack, New York, just north of New York City.

00:00:40.140 My mom grew up not far from there, and my dad was from Brooklyn.

00:00:43.380 They met and they married young while my mom was in nursing school.

00:00:46.620 My sister was their firstborn, and from the start, Suzanne was beautiful.

00:00:50.880 Big, blue eyes, perfect alabaster skin.

00:00:54.820 She used to pride herself on having a great nose and perfect feet, and she was right.

00:00:59.620 My brother Pete came along 13 months later, and I followed five years after that.

00:01:05.060 So there were about six and a half years between my sister and me.

00:01:09.220 She often felt more like a mother figure than a sister.

00:01:13.000 When I was little, she was an incredible caretaker to me.

00:01:16.480 My mom was in school and working full-time getting her degrees in psychiatric nursing.

00:01:21.220 My sister would later look at any school photo of me where my hair was combed nicely,

00:01:24.860 or I was in a cute outfit, and say,

00:01:26.540 That's thanks to me!

00:01:28.560 I made sure you look good, like my hair here and my cute little dress.

00:01:33.020 My mom laughed and agreed.

00:01:34.860 It was just one of the many ways in which Sue took care of me. 1.00

00:01:38.360 She helped teach me how to tie my shoes, how to read, how to find and apply the right makeup when I was a teenager, botching it.

00:01:47.020 From letting me sleep on her floor when I had nightmares as a kid,

00:01:50.140 to introducing me to the wonders of Robbie Benson, John Travolta, and Sean Cassidy,

00:01:56.340 my sister often found ways to improve my life. 0.87

00:01:58.900 One time when I was in second grade, I wrote about this in my book,

00:02:03.440 I was looking forward to bringing home the class bear, Clancy.

00:02:07.520 Each kid got to take Clancy home on successive Fridays,

00:02:11.280 and my turn had finally arrived.

00:02:13.060 Except I didn't feel well that day,

00:02:15.680 and I told Miss Clancy, who had named the bear after her,

00:02:19.460 that I felt nauseous and I wanted to go to the nurse.

00:02:22.620 She didn't believe me.

00:02:24.420 Well, sure enough, I soon threw up in front of everyone.

00:02:28.580 I was embarrassed.

00:02:30.220 And Miss Clancy was angry. 0.88

00:02:32.980 She sent me to the nurse's office, and I asked her if I could still take Clancy.

00:02:36.800 No, she said coldly.

00:02:39.120 I was devastated.

00:02:40.220 When I got home and told my then 13-year-old sister what had happened,

00:02:44.820 she was outraged.

00:02:46.360 She went right down to the mall and bought me my own Clancy.

00:02:51.200 It was an exact replica.

00:02:53.800 I couldn't believe it.

00:02:55.660 I was absolutely thrilled.

00:02:58.520 My very own Clancy that I didn't even have to share.

00:03:01.820 Suzanne had erased the sting of my teacher's cruelty.

00:03:05.340 One time, she was babysitting me and my friend at the friend's house.

00:03:11.180 The friend's parents were out to dinner,

00:03:12.940 and my sister let us watch Saturday Night Fever,

00:03:16.160 which was rated R,

00:03:17.540 but we were dying to see it,

00:03:19.100 and it happened to be on TV that night.

00:03:21.400 The parents unexpectedly came home while it was on,

00:03:24.960 and my friend's stepfather was visibly angry.

00:03:27.620 He grabbed my friend by the arm and yelled,

00:03:30.300 Get upstairs!

00:03:30.940 The sleepover is done!

00:03:32.860 I started upstairs, too, to get my stuff.

00:03:36.320 He threatened my friend on the way up,

00:03:37.980 saying,

00:03:38.380 You are gonna get it! 1.00

00:03:40.120 I couldn't believe his anger over a stupid movie 1.00

00:03:42.520 a couple of nine-year-old girls sneaked on the TV, 1.00

00:03:45.180 and Suzanne went right over to him and said, 1.00

00:03:48.080 Don't you touch my sister! 1.00

00:03:50.220 Meg, let's go.

00:03:52.200 Off we went,

00:03:53.020 and as I so often did,

00:03:55.160 I felt relief that my sister was there.

00:03:58.720 It was Suzanne,

00:04:00.300 who was home with me and my mom

00:04:02.200 the night our 45-year-old father died,

00:04:04.980 December 15, 1985.

00:04:07.540 It was near midnight when she shook me in my bed,

00:04:10.060 saying,

00:04:10.380 Wake up!

00:04:11.140 Daddy had a heart attack.

00:04:13.240 What followed was the most painful night of our lives.

00:04:16.660 I was 15,

00:04:17.440 she was 22,

00:04:19.100 and it was the beginning of a very hard year.

00:04:23.020 Suzanne and I would find ways to make our mom laugh,

00:04:26.180 to commiserate when we felt powerless,

00:04:28.640 to help her to pick up the slack around the house

00:04:31.160 when my mom was in too much pain to do it.

00:04:34.700 Whenever I needed to feel better about things,

00:04:36.980 I called Suzanne.

00:04:38.700 She had this special power of knowing exactly what to say.

00:04:42.460 She had institutional knowledge of me

00:04:44.660 and used it in just the right ways,

00:04:46.940 whether it was in grieving our dad

00:04:48.840 or anything else,

00:04:50.740 for all the days of my life.

00:04:53.020 So far.

00:04:55.540 She went back to college after my dad's death

00:04:58.200 and invited me to visit.

00:05:00.140 She took me and my best friend out

00:05:01.840 and let us sneak a drink

00:05:02.900 and feel like grown-ups.

00:05:04.820 She was so pretty.

00:05:06.600 Her feathered blonde hair and beautiful smile

00:05:08.640 could catch the attention of anyone in any room,

00:05:11.260 and her acerbic wit could level you

00:05:13.800 with its clever edge.

00:05:15.000 More than anything,

00:05:17.220 she loved to make fun of herself and of others.

00:05:20.180 A skill she came by honestly thanks to our mom.

00:05:24.020 As much as Suzanne loved her own feet,

00:05:26.800 she hated mine.

00:05:28.220 She used to say,

00:05:28.960 your toes look like fingers,

00:05:30.460 and my fingers were even worse.

00:05:32.600 We used to sleep in the same bed

00:05:33.980 when we slept at my Nana's house.

00:05:35.300 Stay away from me with those spidery fingers, 0.96

00:05:37.760 she used to say.

00:05:40.020 Those summers we would spend at my Nana's house,

00:05:42.980 Nan and Pop had a boatyard,

00:05:45.120 were magical.

00:05:47.100 Suzanne and I would play waitress

00:05:48.380 with our grandparents' spare order pads

00:05:50.880 and make ice cream floats

00:05:52.380 for our brother and his friends.

00:05:54.560 She always included me in her fun plans.

00:05:57.580 We would watch Elvis Presley movies together

00:05:59.520 or eat TV dinners in front of the Brady Bunch.

00:06:02.560 We watched The Waltons

00:06:03.760 and Little House on the Prairie religiously.

00:06:07.180 We went to the annual carnival together.

00:06:10.000 We laughed,

00:06:11.280 and she taught me the ropes of life.

00:06:14.580 When I was in law school,

00:06:16.420 my sister was a young teacher,

00:06:17.980 newly married and with no money.

00:06:19.540 I had even less

00:06:21.160 and was leaving her house one time

00:06:23.220 with no gas

00:06:24.080 and no spare change

00:06:25.240 to get even a gallon.

00:06:26.920 She reached into her purse

00:06:28.260 and pulled out a 20.

00:06:30.020 It might as well have been $1,000.

00:06:32.660 I was so grateful.

00:06:34.640 I knew she didn't have it to spare,

00:06:36.280 but it got me home

00:06:37.100 and kept my tank filled for days,

00:06:39.260 and I never forgot it.

00:06:42.100 I moved to Chicago

00:06:43.220 after becoming a lawyer,

00:06:44.540 and she and my mom came

00:06:46.000 for what would be a visit

00:06:46.920 we'd never forget.

00:06:48.260 Not because anything extraordinary

00:06:49.500 happened,

00:06:50.000 but just because

00:06:50.600 we had so much fun together.

00:06:53.760 I will always remember

00:06:54.920 sitting in my car,

00:06:56.280 the three of us,

00:06:57.020 blasting Billy Idol's

00:06:58.580 dancing with myself,

00:06:59.900 singing and laughing so hard

00:07:01.940 our stomachs hurt.

00:07:04.060 This would become

00:07:04.940 one of my favorite memories

00:07:06.060 in life.

00:07:08.160 Suzanne was always quick to laugh. 1.00

00:07:11.960 Life was not easy

00:07:13.080 for my sister.

00:07:14.880 Her marriage ultimately fell apart

00:07:16.460 under very trying circumstances.

00:07:18.800 She raised her three kids

00:07:20.240 by herself.

00:07:21.700 She had given up teaching

00:07:22.940 to be a homemaker

00:07:23.780 and had next to no money.

00:07:26.660 Life threw many challenges at her.

00:07:29.340 She got swept up

00:07:30.240 in the opioid crisis

00:07:31.300 thanks to a doctor

00:07:32.220 who told her

00:07:33.340 a minor painkiller

00:07:34.340 was not addictive.

00:07:36.380 Later,

00:07:36.960 she got clean and sober

00:07:38.000 and rebuilt her life.

00:07:40.320 I once asked her

00:07:41.280 if I could talk about this publicly,

00:07:42.900 and she said it was okay.

00:07:44.120 We actually had plans

00:07:46.380 for her to come on

00:07:47.120 and talk about it all

00:07:48.340 right here one day.

00:07:50.700 She told me shortly

00:07:51.660 after I launched the show

00:07:52.740 that she wanted

00:07:53.680 to tell her story,

00:07:54.880 that she thought

00:07:55.880 it might help people.

00:07:57.960 I always imagined us

00:07:59.300 having that conversation

00:08:01.220 and it being

00:08:02.440 a triumphant moment for her,

00:08:04.640 a time she could tell the world

00:08:05.940 that like so many,

00:08:07.800 she had faced real struggle

00:08:09.240 but had survived

00:08:10.400 and even thrived.

00:08:12.760 We never got around to it.

00:08:15.500 The tabloids attacked her 0.73

00:08:17.160 as I became a public figure.

00:08:20.000 I got wind

00:08:20.640 that one publication

00:08:21.520 was preparing a hit piece

00:08:22.780 on her

00:08:23.360 from when she was still

00:08:24.860 suffering with addiction.

00:08:26.920 I called in every favor

00:08:27.960 to stop it

00:08:28.600 and thought I had.

00:08:30.380 Later,

00:08:30.820 I found out

00:08:31.440 they ran it anyway.

00:08:33.500 My sister never told me.

00:08:35.800 She protected me

00:08:36.820 even then.

00:08:38.000 Her children

00:08:40.460 were her greatest

00:08:41.140 source of happiness

00:08:42.100 bar none.

00:08:43.820 Throughout her ups and downs,

00:08:45.300 she loved them deeply.

00:08:47.000 She would light up

00:08:47.820 talking about her kids.

00:08:49.380 She was so proud

00:08:50.320 of each one of them.

00:08:51.920 Emily,

00:08:52.380 the spitfire

00:08:53.160 whose moxie 1.00

00:08:54.420 is matched

00:08:54.860 by her deeply

00:08:55.780 caring nature.

00:08:57.520 Brian,

00:08:58.060 the whip-smart

00:08:58.840 middle child,

00:08:59.660 accomplished,

00:09:00.620 reflective,

00:09:01.980 soulful.

00:09:03.140 And Chris,

00:09:04.180 the eldest,

00:09:05.280 like his mom,

00:09:06.100 funny,

00:09:06.700 direct,

00:09:07.040 no-nonsense

00:09:07.940 and now

00:09:09.020 a strong

00:09:09.540 and loving parent

00:09:10.300 himself.

00:09:12.140 In our adult years,

00:09:13.860 as challenges

00:09:14.800 kept coming

00:09:15.480 her way 0.96

00:09:16.140 and my career

00:09:17.360 took off,

00:09:17.960 we had a bit

00:09:18.420 of a role reversal.

00:09:20.180 I became more

00:09:21.220 of the caretaker,

00:09:22.380 which she did not love

00:09:23.660 but seemed resigned

00:09:25.240 to accept.

00:09:26.720 It was an adjustment

00:09:27.760 for both of us.

00:09:29.860 She never stopped

00:09:30.980 with her kindnesses.

00:09:32.400 She took in

00:09:33.080 my vicious dog,

00:09:34.120 Bailey,

00:09:34.760 who bit all of us,

00:09:35.980 but who I did not

00:09:37.160 have the heart

00:09:37.920 to put down

00:09:38.720 and who she loved,

00:09:40.120 too.

00:09:41.400 She'd send my kids 0.81

00:09:42.380 gifts she made,

00:09:43.880 little dough ornaments

00:09:44.860 for the Christmas tree,

00:09:46.060 or a family portrait

00:09:47.280 she had drawn.

00:09:49.160 She would come to visit

00:09:50.300 with games in tow.

00:09:52.480 On one recent Thanksgiving,

00:09:54.100 she had us play this game 0.96

00:09:55.160 where we filled tissue boxes

00:09:56.280 with ping-pong balls,

00:09:57.700 strapped them to our waists,

00:09:59.120 and then danced vigorously

00:10:00.480 to music.

00:10:01.040 the first one

00:10:02.260 to get all the ping-pong balls

00:10:03.940 out of the tissue box

00:10:05.600 won.

00:10:06.580 Again,

00:10:07.160 crying,

00:10:07.920 we laughed so hard.

00:10:09.240 Luckily,

00:10:10.160 someone got

00:10:10.820 some of those laughs

00:10:11.880 on tape.

00:10:13.060 so much fun

00:10:35.700 to watch now.

00:10:38.500 Shortly after that,

00:10:40.320 my sister's health

00:10:41.100 took a turn.

00:10:42.840 Liver enzymes

00:10:43.520 didn't look right.

00:10:44.640 Legs started swelling.

00:10:46.440 She saw specialist

00:10:47.220 after specialist.

00:10:48.140 Was it cancer?

00:10:49.360 A heart ailment?

00:10:50.460 No.

00:10:51.420 No,

00:10:51.720 they told us.

00:10:52.800 Test after test

00:10:53.660 and no diagnosis.

00:10:56.220 She was real thin 1.00

00:10:57.360 and eating was tough.

00:11:00.480 Over the past year,

00:11:01.340 she was in and out

00:11:02.020 of the hospital

00:11:02.560 as we tried to figure out

00:11:04.000 what was going on.

00:11:05.600 She was released

00:11:06.640 after a short stay

00:11:07.820 just last month.

00:11:09.140 The main direction

00:11:10.880 was for her to eat.

00:11:12.480 We needed to get

00:11:13.080 some nutrients in her. 0.86

00:11:15.140 And then came last Friday

00:11:16.520 when my mom found her

00:11:17.720 unresponsive.

00:11:19.440 My poor mom

00:11:20.620 who lived with Suzanne.

00:11:22.760 They became like 0.87

00:11:23.760 frickin' frack

00:11:24.440 up there in Albany 0.97

00:11:25.260 watching reruns

00:11:26.480 of Gunsmoke

00:11:27.380 and arguing over

00:11:28.340 the volume on the TV.

00:11:30.580 We had always imagined

00:11:31.860 my sister taking care

00:11:33.020 of our mom

00:11:33.540 in my mom's

00:11:34.760 later years.

00:11:35.580 We joked that Sue

00:11:36.380 would do it

00:11:36.900 and my brother Pete

00:11:37.580 and I would pay for it.

00:11:39.580 We'd never foreseen

00:11:40.880 that my 81-year-old mother

00:11:42.340 would be the caretaker

00:11:43.500 for Suzanne.

00:11:45.800 But that's how it goes,

00:11:47.020 right?

00:11:48.120 Moms never stop caretaking. 1.00

00:11:50.800 When Suzanne

00:11:51.480 started feeling ill,

00:11:52.440 my mom swooped right in. 1.00

00:11:54.460 I don't know

00:11:54.840 how many doctor's visits

00:11:55.820 my mom went to

00:11:56.700 with my sister.

00:11:57.840 And Lord help the doctor

00:11:59.060 who took too long

00:11:59.900 to tell my mother

00:12:00.580 upon meeting her

00:12:01.360 that she does not

00:12:02.120 look 81.

00:12:02.700 We thought Suzanne

00:12:05.620 was on the mend.

00:12:07.220 She looked ill,

00:12:08.460 but she'd been released

00:12:09.600 and was looking forward

00:12:10.380 to the holidays.

00:12:11.860 I hadn't seen her

00:12:12.860 in a few months.

00:12:14.240 She had suggested

00:12:15.200 a visit in August,

00:12:16.480 but we were too busy

00:12:17.920 and I told her

00:12:19.260 I couldn't do it.

00:12:21.540 How I wish

00:12:22.260 I could have that one back.

00:12:23.440 Suzanne collapsed 0.97

00:12:32.940 on Friday,

00:12:33.920 October 21st.

00:12:35.800 The ambulance came

00:12:36.960 and took her to the hospital

00:12:37.980 where she had

00:12:39.020 a heart attack.

00:12:40.400 I was with her

00:12:41.220 at the end,

00:12:41.840 holding her hand.

00:12:43.460 She wouldn't have liked

00:12:44.160 my spidery fingers on her.

00:12:46.340 I did it anyway.

00:12:48.820 I told her

00:12:49.540 it was okay

00:12:50.040 for her to rest,

00:12:51.360 to be with our dad

00:12:52.700 and our nana

00:12:53.640 who she loved so much.

00:12:56.080 And then she was gone.

00:12:59.140 She won't be

00:12:59.880 at Emily's wedding.

00:13:00.920 She won't meet

00:13:01.440 her future grandchildren.

00:13:03.520 Her kids don't know 0.83

00:13:04.420 what they're going to do

00:13:05.060 without her advice.

00:13:06.880 And I feel the same.

00:13:08.900 Who's going to make

00:13:09.680 fun of me now

00:13:10.360 in a loving,

00:13:11.340 don't-take-yourself-too-seriously

00:13:12.680 kind of way?

00:13:14.300 Who's going to tell me

00:13:15.120 to put on our favorite movie,

00:13:16.320 Willy Wonka,

00:13:17.080 when the rough patches come

00:13:18.240 in my own life?

00:13:19.600 We were supposed

00:13:21.440 to take care

00:13:22.020 of our mom together,

00:13:23.120 to commiserate

00:13:24.540 on life's challenges,

00:13:25.560 to watch our kids

00:13:26.240 grow up

00:13:26.680 and become parents

00:13:27.440 themselves.

00:13:28.640 She left too early.

00:13:32.440 The love of a sibling

00:13:33.760 is more complicated

00:13:34.920 than that of a parent.

00:13:36.720 The relationship

00:13:37.320 has different layers

00:13:38.140 to it.

00:13:39.340 How I wish

00:13:40.160 I had nurtured

00:13:40.840 our connection

00:13:41.540 more recently.

00:13:43.820 You get busy

00:13:44.840 with your own stuff.

00:13:46.540 Focus on your job,

00:13:47.780 your kids,

00:13:48.280 your marriage,

00:13:49.720 your siblings

00:13:50.360 aren't at the top

00:13:51.920 of the list

00:13:52.320 on a daily basis.

00:13:53.400 That's the natural

00:13:54.180 life cycle.

00:13:56.040 You're not expecting

00:13:57.040 it to suddenly end,

00:13:58.300 not in your 50s.

00:14:00.840 I know my sister

00:14:01.900 would have wanted me

00:14:02.640 to have a happy life,

00:14:04.100 to thrive,

00:14:05.520 to laugh at myself.

00:14:07.800 She would have wanted 0.97

00:14:08.720 you to know

00:14:09.140 about the time

00:14:09.620 I tried to host

00:14:10.320 Thanksgiving dinner

00:14:11.100 and didn't take

00:14:11.640 the turkey out of the freezer

00:14:12.680 until 10 a.m.

00:14:13.520 the day of

00:14:14.100 we had to have

00:14:15.420 rotisserie chicken.

00:14:16.240 She would have

00:14:18.480 wanted you to laugh

00:14:19.440 if I or anyone else

00:14:21.180 for that matter

00:14:21.660 trips in front of you.

00:14:23.740 She might have 0.95

00:14:24.440 pressed your bruise

00:14:25.240 and says,

00:14:25.660 does it hurt

00:14:26.040 when I do this?

00:14:28.560 She definitely 0.92

00:14:29.380 would not have

00:14:30.060 wanted me

00:14:30.580 sitting around

00:14:31.320 feeling sad.

00:14:33.560 I told my husband

00:14:34.520 Doug at her funeral

00:14:35.760 as the sad music played,

00:14:37.140 I don't want this

00:14:37.960 at my funeral.

00:14:39.200 I want Tone Loke

00:14:40.200 or MC Hammer.

00:14:42.300 Seriously,

00:14:42.800 he said.

00:14:44.100 Seriously,

00:14:44.940 yes.

00:14:46.580 When I remember

00:14:47.440 my sister,

00:14:48.120 I will play

00:14:48.800 Billy Idol.

00:14:50.280 I will play 0.91

00:14:51.060 silly games. 0.93

00:14:52.420 I will make 0.99

00:14:53.040 doughy

00:14:54.020 Christmas ornaments.

00:14:56.180 I will love on

00:14:57.420 but also rip on 0.98

00:14:58.460 my mother

00:14:59.000 and her purple hair. 0.93

00:15:00.680 I will help

00:15:01.480 my sister's children

00:15:02.360 and I will adore

00:15:04.000 my own.

00:15:05.640 And I will keep

00:15:06.380 reminding people,

00:15:07.420 including myself,

00:15:09.100 that life is too short.

00:15:11.540 This whole thing

00:15:12.440 is fleeting.

00:15:14.780 Don't wait

00:15:15.520 until tomorrow

00:15:16.220 to reach out

00:15:16.880 to your loved ones.

00:15:19.180 Make time

00:15:19.640 for the visits.

00:15:21.180 You never know

00:15:21.760 if it could be

00:15:22.220 the last.

00:15:25.140 Suzanne never

00:15:25.900 got to take

00:15:26.400 that victory lap

00:15:27.180 with all of you

00:15:27.880 to tell you

00:15:29.340 her story

00:15:29.980 of great struggle

00:15:31.240 and triumph,

00:15:32.420 of a life

00:15:33.340 not adorned

00:15:34.800 with material riches

00:15:35.800 but filled

00:15:36.820 with emotional treasure,

00:15:38.480 of a sisterhood

00:15:40.080 in which roles

00:15:41.240 evolved over time,

00:15:42.440 but one

00:15:43.300 in which

00:15:43.620 one thing

00:15:44.180 remained

00:15:44.880 constant.

00:15:46.720 Love

00:15:47.120 was always

00:15:47.820 present.

00:15:49.620 She didn't

00:15:50.320 get to tell you

00:15:51.000 any of that.

00:15:53.460 I hope

00:15:54.060 you feel it

00:15:54.540 anyway.

00:15:56.380 We'll be right

00:15:57.040 back.

00:15:57.280 Oh my God,

00:16:02.900 I don't know

00:16:03.280 about you,

00:16:03.700 but I'm really

00:16:04.080 glad we had

00:16:04.520 a commercial

00:16:04.840 break there. 0.76

00:16:05.820 I'm really glad

00:16:06.480 we had a commercial

00:16:06.940 break.

00:16:09.060 Now I want to

00:16:09.660 get to the news.

00:16:10.360 Okay,

00:16:10.560 the cleanup effort

00:16:11.240 is now well

00:16:12.180 underway.

00:16:13.140 Has President Biden,

00:16:14.180 Vice President

00:16:14.620 Harris,

00:16:15.020 and former

00:16:15.620 President Obama

00:16:16.660 all plan

00:16:17.980 on making

00:16:18.620 campaign stops

00:16:19.500 in Pennsylvania,

00:16:21.040 trying to undo

00:16:21.840 the damage

00:16:22.580 from John Fetterman's

00:16:23.900 debate performance

00:16:24.680 the other night.

00:16:25.860 We have yet to

00:16:26.820 see updated

00:16:27.460 reputable polling

00:16:28.480 in that key

00:16:29.280 Senate race,

00:16:29.920 and it's a big

00:16:30.400 one,

00:16:30.720 but even before

00:16:31.580 the debate,

00:16:32.180 the polls were

00:16:32.800 tightening,

00:16:33.760 showing Fetterman

00:16:34.360 up by just

00:16:35.160 1.3% in the

00:16:37.040 real clear

00:16:37.540 average of all

00:16:39.340 polls,

00:16:39.800 real clear

00:16:40.080 politics average

00:16:40.960 over Dr.

00:16:42.400 Oz.

00:16:43.380 Well,

00:16:43.620 my guest today

00:16:44.220 very well could

00:16:44.980 have been running

00:16:45.700 against John

00:16:46.860 Fetterman.

00:16:47.620 He was the

00:16:48.200 frontrunner for

00:16:48.880 the Republicans

00:16:49.500 until personal

00:16:50.780 issues forced him

00:16:51.680 to withdraw

00:16:52.180 from the race.

00:16:53.960 Today,

00:16:54.360 he is here to

00:16:54.940 publicly discuss

00:16:55.780 all of that

00:16:56.300 for the very

00:16:56.880 first time.

00:16:58.740 Sean Parnell

00:16:59.240 is a former

00:16:59.900 Republican Senate

00:17:00.880 candidate in

00:17:01.440 Pennsylvania,

00:17:02.560 a decorated

00:17:03.100 combat veteran,

00:17:04.560 and best-selling

00:17:05.160 author.

00:17:06.540 Sean,

00:17:06.780 welcome back

00:17:07.180 to the show.

00:17:08.160 Hey,

00:17:08.480 Megan,

00:17:09.000 thank you so

00:17:09.620 much for having

00:17:10.320 me.

00:17:10.640 It is,

00:17:11.340 it's great

00:17:12.200 to be back.

00:17:13.600 It's great

00:17:13.920 to see you.

00:17:14.560 You look great,

00:17:15.480 and I've been

00:17:16.100 following your story

00:17:16.980 and sending you

00:17:18.000 much support

00:17:18.820 along the way.

00:17:19.500 I know it's

00:17:19.720 been a rough,

00:17:20.480 rough year.

00:17:21.320 I think you

00:17:21.640 were last

00:17:21.940 on August

00:17:22.660 of 2021,

00:17:25.620 and it was

00:17:27.500 an exciting

00:17:27.940 time.

00:17:28.540 You had just

00:17:29.020 announced,

00:17:29.820 and you were

00:17:30.280 looking really

00:17:30.840 good for that

00:17:31.420 race,

00:17:31.840 and it's just

00:17:32.280 like you wonder

00:17:33.400 what life would

00:17:34.080 be like right

00:17:34.620 now if it

00:17:35.580 were Parnell

00:17:36.520 versus Fetterman

00:17:37.500 instead of Oz

00:17:38.640 versus Fetterman,

00:17:39.780 you know?

00:17:41.000 Yeah,

00:17:41.460 yeah,

00:17:41.820 I do.

00:17:42.240 I mean,

00:17:42.540 I'm not going

00:17:44.280 to lie to you.

00:17:44.960 Watching from

00:17:45.580 the sidelines

00:17:46.820 is tough,

00:17:47.780 but I don't

00:17:49.160 regret the

00:17:49.620 decision at

00:17:50.120 all.

00:17:50.540 I knew that

00:17:53.000 my kids

00:17:54.080 needed me

00:17:55.120 more than

00:17:56.200 at any other

00:17:56.780 time in their

00:17:57.220 life in that

00:17:57.920 moment,

00:17:58.260 and I needed

00:17:58.600 to be there

00:17:59.040 for them.

00:18:00.180 And Melanie

00:18:02.180 and I,

00:18:02.640 like my future

00:18:03.140 wife,

00:18:03.660 we're working

00:18:04.160 hard to blend

00:18:04.900 our families,

00:18:05.760 and that is

00:18:06.720 no small

00:18:07.720 challenge,

00:18:08.240 but she's got

00:18:08.780 amazing little

00:18:09.620 girls of her own.

00:18:10.860 They're not my

00:18:11.140 biological kids,

00:18:12.120 but I love them

00:18:12.600 like they're my

00:18:13.100 daughters.

00:18:13.440 They had

00:18:15.440 just lost

00:18:15.820 their dad

00:18:16.240 in the middle

00:18:16.600 of that

00:18:16.900 custody trial

00:18:17.580 as well.

00:18:18.160 He passed

00:18:18.620 away from

00:18:19.000 COVID,

00:18:19.780 and I knew

00:18:20.200 that they

00:18:20.480 were going

00:18:20.720 to need

00:18:20.940 me as

00:18:21.240 well,

00:18:21.960 and the

00:18:23.140 Senate race

00:18:23.540 could wait.

00:18:24.620 And so

00:18:25.060 I've been

00:18:26.500 focused on my

00:18:27.060 family for the

00:18:27.580 last year,

00:18:28.680 and again,

00:18:29.640 although it's

00:18:30.020 hard to watch

00:18:30.480 from the

00:18:30.740 sidelines,

00:18:31.520 I don't

00:18:31.740 regret it

00:18:32.140 at all.

00:18:32.480 There were

00:18:34.300 some very

00:18:35.160 unfortunate

00:18:35.600 allegations made

00:18:36.540 between your

00:18:37.400 ex-wife and

00:18:38.340 you and this

00:18:38.860 whole thing,

00:18:39.360 and we'll get

00:18:39.680 to all that

00:18:40.280 because that

00:18:40.540 was a quote

00:18:41.740 scandal,

00:18:42.600 and just

00:18:43.780 things turned

00:18:44.280 very ugly,

00:18:45.120 so we'll talk

00:18:45.520 about that in

00:18:45.940 a minute,

00:18:46.220 but let's just

00:18:46.660 start with the

00:18:47.420 news because

00:18:47.880 Pennsylvania is

00:18:48.840 crazy. 0.99

00:18:49.960 It's the most 0.63

00:18:50.280 interesting state

00:18:50.960 in the nation

00:18:51.400 right now.

00:18:52.180 What's happening

00:18:52.860 with these guys?

00:18:53.500 I assume you

00:18:54.160 watched the

00:18:54.580 debate the

00:18:55.040 other night.

00:18:55.520 What did

00:18:55.760 you think?

00:18:57.140 Oh,

00:18:57.680 I couldn't

00:18:59.100 believe it.

00:18:59.980 Hello,

00:19:00.240 everybody.

00:19:00.760 Good night.

00:19:01.420 From that

00:19:02.920 moment on,

00:19:03.780 I mean,

00:19:03.980 if it were a

00:19:04.560 boxing match,

00:19:05.440 they would have

00:19:05.800 thrown in the

00:19:06.220 towel after the

00:19:06.860 first round.

00:19:07.560 I couldn't

00:19:08.040 believe it,

00:19:08.600 and a couple

00:19:09.120 things on this.

00:19:10.860 John Fetterman's

00:19:11.660 health was a

00:19:13.060 lot worse

00:19:14.260 than I thought,

00:19:15.660 and I live in

00:19:16.260 the state,

00:19:16.720 and I'm wired

00:19:17.180 into the

00:19:18.020 political apparatus

00:19:19.440 here,

00:19:20.260 and boy,

00:19:21.780 what an

00:19:22.260 indictment on

00:19:22.760 the media

00:19:23.200 trying to

00:19:24.340 cover for him

00:19:25.400 since the

00:19:26.240 primary.

00:19:27.080 Absolutely

00:19:27.640 unbelievable.

00:19:29.700 It's also,

00:19:30.440 I think,

00:19:30.600 an indictment

00:19:31.440 on the

00:19:31.720 Pennsylvania

00:19:32.100 Democrat

00:19:32.560 Party,

00:19:33.340 and maybe

00:19:33.940 even on

00:19:34.640 John Fetterman

00:19:35.260 himself and

00:19:35.860 his family.

00:19:36.540 I don't

00:19:37.220 understand how

00:19:39.120 they could put

00:19:41.340 him through that

00:19:42.520 in good conscience,

00:19:43.600 although at the

00:19:44.400 end of the day,

00:19:44.900 it's his choice.

00:19:46.060 And so it was

00:19:48.660 probably one of the

00:19:49.460 worst debate

00:19:49.960 performances that

00:19:51.100 I've ever seen.

00:19:52.460 And when you

00:19:53.500 watch the post-debate

00:19:55.100 spin, that was

00:19:56.820 also extremely

00:19:58.600 interesting to

00:19:59.820 me.

00:20:00.440 You have all

00:20:00.880 these blue

00:20:01.160 checks on

00:20:01.700 Twitter talking

00:20:02.640 about the

00:20:03.600 debate as if

00:20:04.440 nothing were

00:20:05.040 wrong.

00:20:05.380 If you read

00:20:05.860 the ABC

00:20:06.340 coverage of

00:20:06.880 the debate,

00:20:07.420 you would

00:20:07.880 think that

00:20:08.320 there were

00:20:08.600 no issues

00:20:09.100 with John

00:20:09.600 Fetterman's

00:20:10.540 cognitive state.

00:20:11.700 If you read

00:20:12.200 Reuters, you'd

00:20:12.980 think there's

00:20:13.300 no issues

00:20:13.820 with John

00:20:14.240 Fetterman's

00:20:14.740 cognitive state.

00:20:15.980 They are

00:20:16.560 still totally

00:20:17.540 covering for

00:20:18.280 him, even

00:20:18.900 now.

00:20:19.820 And you

00:20:21.080 look at,

00:20:21.760 you watch how

00:20:22.560 his staff

00:20:23.180 reacted.

00:20:24.580 It's like

00:20:25.100 their entire

00:20:25.960 response to

00:20:27.000 the debate

00:20:27.560 was a

00:20:28.240 Chumbawamba

00:20:28.800 song.

00:20:29.500 You know,

00:20:29.900 John Fetterman

00:20:30.520 gets knocked

00:20:31.060 down, but

00:20:31.640 he gets up

00:20:32.200 again, but

00:20:32.920 nobody's going

00:20:33.500 to keep

00:20:33.780 John Fetterman

00:20:34.400 down.

00:20:35.180 And then

00:20:35.540 the media

00:20:36.440 regurgitated

00:20:37.660 that over

00:20:38.360 and over

00:20:38.920 and over

00:20:39.340 again.

00:20:39.700 It was an

00:20:40.080 absolute

00:20:40.540 disaster in

00:20:41.300 every way.

00:20:42.200 And you

00:20:43.400 are right.

00:20:44.020 Pennsylvania

00:20:44.340 is a very,

00:20:45.740 very difficult

00:20:46.440 state to

00:20:47.600 read.

00:20:48.900 It's a state

00:20:49.560 that closes

00:20:50.480 late and

00:20:51.200 closes fast.

00:20:52.220 Democrats

00:20:53.760 have a

00:20:54.500 520-plus

00:20:55.700 thousand-person

00:20:56.700 voter registration

00:20:57.500 advantage.

00:20:58.120 There are

00:20:58.280 1.2 million

00:20:59.040 independents.

00:21:00.580 Republicans

00:21:01.040 simply cannot

00:21:02.020 win in this

00:21:02.920 state without

00:21:03.780 some crossover

00:21:04.680 support.

00:21:05.420 But the

00:21:05.900 independents who

00:21:06.580 are still on

00:21:07.020 the fence,

00:21:07.400 and I think

00:21:07.720 a lot of

00:21:08.040 those Democrats

00:21:08.900 who have

00:21:10.740 been voting

00:21:11.560 Republicans since

00:21:12.480 President Trump

00:21:13.160 brought them

00:21:13.640 into the

00:21:14.000 fold, I

00:21:15.540 think their

00:21:15.880 minds are

00:21:16.240 made up after

00:21:17.580 that debate.

00:21:18.580 I think odds

00:21:19.140 runs away.

00:21:19.620 It's going to

00:21:19.900 be close.

00:21:20.360 Obviously,

00:21:20.660 it's Pennsylvania.

00:21:21.140 But I think

00:21:21.840 Oz is going 0.97

00:21:22.680 to win this

00:21:23.120 thing.

00:21:24.160 Wow.

00:21:24.660 What do you

00:21:25.820 make of the

00:21:26.500 early voting,

00:21:27.360 though?

00:21:27.620 Because there

00:21:28.840 was a reason

00:21:29.520 that they

00:21:30.500 didn't agree

00:21:31.240 to do this

00:21:31.720 debate until

00:21:32.260 October 25th.

00:21:34.020 Early voting

00:21:34.540 has been

00:21:34.840 underway in

00:21:35.440 Pennsylvania for

00:21:36.160 weeks now.

00:21:37.360 And I heard

00:21:37.760 a report

00:21:38.320 saying that

00:21:40.060 some 700,000

00:21:41.860 ballots had

00:21:42.540 been cast

00:21:43.140 already,

00:21:43.820 500,000 of

00:21:44.920 which have

00:21:45.340 come in from

00:21:45.900 registered

00:21:46.380 Dems, who

00:21:48.040 they believe

00:21:48.620 would be

00:21:49.080 Democratic votes,

00:21:50.020 that there's a

00:21:50.760 massive advantage

00:21:51.740 for Fetterman

00:21:52.760 in the early

00:21:53.800 vote.

00:21:54.560 And that's

00:21:55.380 by design.

00:21:56.060 To me,

00:21:56.580 this feels

00:21:57.140 like cheating

00:21:58.840 because they

00:21:59.700 knew something

00:22:00.320 about him

00:22:00.980 that they

00:22:01.760 kept secret.

00:22:03.460 And last two

00:22:05.220 nights ago was

00:22:05.880 the big reveal.

00:22:07.000 And the big

00:22:07.380 reveal is he

00:22:08.760 can't put two

00:22:09.520 words together.

00:22:10.320 He cannot put

00:22:10.880 two sentences

00:22:11.420 together without

00:22:12.520 fudging his

00:22:13.080 words,

00:22:14.060 misunderstanding,

00:22:15.460 merging his

00:22:16.400 thoughts.

00:22:17.220 Like you said,

00:22:18.080 he began the

00:22:18.800 debate with a

00:22:19.460 good night,

00:22:19.820 everyone.

00:22:20.460 I mean,

00:22:21.200 something's

00:22:22.340 gone wrong

00:22:23.000 cognitively and

00:22:25.040 they hid it so

00:22:26.240 they can bank

00:22:26.760 those votes.

00:22:28.140 Yeah,

00:22:28.380 absolutely.

00:22:29.220 And there's no

00:22:29.900 question about it

00:22:30.860 that that John

00:22:32.020 Fetterman and the

00:22:33.120 entire Pennsylvania

00:22:34.240 Democrat Party

00:22:34.980 wanted a debate

00:22:36.100 with Oz as late

00:22:37.780 as humanly

00:22:38.260 possible so that

00:22:39.000 they could bank

00:22:39.520 as many early

00:22:40.120 votes as possible.

00:22:41.280 In Pennsylvania,

00:22:42.340 I think people

00:22:42.740 have been voting

00:22:43.220 here for the

00:22:43.740 better part of a

00:22:44.340 month now.

00:22:44.840 And you're

00:22:45.060 right.

00:22:45.300 I think John

00:22:46.040 Fetterman has

00:22:46.520 got 75 plus

00:22:47.840 percent of

00:22:48.620 those early

00:22:49.280 votes.

00:22:49.620 700,000 people

00:22:50.500 have already

00:22:50.880 voted already.

00:22:51.640 And to me,

00:22:52.900 this sort of

00:22:54.340 is emblematic

00:22:55.400 of the problem

00:22:56.340 with early

00:22:57.080 voting.

00:22:57.700 I wonder how

00:22:58.700 many of the

00:22:59.520 400,000 plus

00:23:00.940 people who

00:23:01.900 early voted

00:23:03.120 for Fetterman

00:23:03.820 maybe want to

00:23:04.440 mulligan on

00:23:04.860 that vote.

00:23:05.680 You know,

00:23:06.060 and, you

00:23:08.120 know,

00:23:08.300 that's why I'm

00:23:09.900 in favor of

00:23:10.920 voting on

00:23:11.480 election day

00:23:12.380 so that people

00:23:13.900 have all the

00:23:14.400 information that

00:23:15.200 all the

00:23:16.660 current

00:23:17.060 information that

00:23:17.840 they need to

00:23:18.400 cast their

00:23:18.800 ballot.

00:23:19.680 And, you

00:23:20.800 know, part

00:23:23.020 of me feels

00:23:23.440 bad for John

00:23:24.400 Fetterman, you

00:23:25.260 know, but part

00:23:26.220 of me doesn't.

00:23:27.300 You know, he

00:23:27.660 chose this, he

00:23:29.360 chose to run

00:23:30.000 with it, the

00:23:30.420 media covered

00:23:31.080 for him, and

00:23:31.700 now the

00:23:32.980 people of this

00:23:33.660 state are the

00:23:35.180 ones that could

00:23:36.080 potentially be

00:23:36.720 left with a

00:23:37.620 senator who

00:23:38.320 can't string

00:23:39.960 together two

00:23:40.580 words, but

00:23:41.620 whose votes

00:23:42.360 will be cast

00:23:43.300 on behalf of

00:23:44.300 not only the

00:23:44.820 people of this

00:23:45.340 commonwealth, but

00:23:46.000 millions and

00:23:46.900 millions of

00:23:47.400 people all

00:23:48.400 across this

00:23:48.960 country.

00:23:49.560 And John

00:23:50.240 Fetterman has

00:23:50.880 been open about

00:23:52.180 his positions on

00:23:53.460 being the 51st

00:23:54.760 vote to do away

00:23:55.540 with the

00:23:55.820 filibuster, packing

00:23:56.980 the Supreme

00:23:57.540 Court.

00:23:58.320 He's basically

00:23:59.240 Bernie Sanders

00:24:00.580 through and

00:24:01.080 through, although

00:24:01.520 somehow more

00:24:02.200 extreme.

00:24:03.500 And so I

00:24:05.320 think, and

00:24:05.980 frankly, Megan,

00:24:07.020 I think the

00:24:07.660 people of

00:24:08.080 Pennsylvania are

00:24:08.740 finally starting

00:24:09.500 to see that.

00:24:11.040 And again,

00:24:11.900 after that

00:24:12.460 debate performance,

00:24:13.580 I really do

00:24:15.260 think that this

00:24:16.140 race is going 0.95

00:24:16.920 to break

00:24:17.440 Oz's way. 0.97

00:24:18.840 I just do.

00:24:20.540 All right.

00:24:20.700 So let's just

00:24:21.420 take a look back

00:24:22.260 because you talk

00:24:22.960 about the media

00:24:23.540 and how they've

00:24:24.040 been covering

00:24:24.440 for him.

00:24:25.260 Maybe they'll

00:24:26.040 thrill to have

00:24:27.080 all those votes

00:24:28.220 banked and to

00:24:29.340 have it gone

00:24:29.760 this way.

00:24:30.140 They're totally,

00:24:30.880 I'm sorry, in

00:24:31.700 on it.

00:24:32.120 I know that

00:24:32.460 sounds like

00:24:33.160 a weird conspiracy,

00:24:33.700 but you have

00:24:34.800 them working

00:24:35.820 together without

00:24:36.460 it being an

00:24:36.980 open agreement.

00:24:38.700 And that's

00:24:39.000 what's been

00:24:39.380 happening between

00:24:39.980 the Fetterman

00:24:40.440 campaign and

00:24:41.100 the press.

00:24:41.560 I take you

00:24:43.420 back to the

00:24:43.980 interview that

00:24:45.060 was done by

00:24:45.480 the NBC

00:24:46.000 reporter Dasha

00:24:46.900 Burns.

00:24:47.680 She did the

00:24:48.340 interview and

00:24:48.980 it was clear

00:24:49.500 that he had

00:24:50.740 to use the

00:24:51.360 same closed

00:24:52.120 captioning system.

00:24:53.500 And then she

00:24:53.920 added, as any

00:24:56.080 good reporter

00:24:56.820 would do.

00:24:57.460 I mean, let me

00:24:57.860 tell you, when I

00:24:58.240 got back from

00:24:58.680 interviewing Putin

00:24:59.520 a couple of

00:25:00.040 different times,

00:25:00.660 it wasn't all

00:25:01.560 about the

00:25:01.980 exchange with

00:25:02.740 Vladimir Putin.

00:25:03.660 I would also

00:25:04.280 explain to the

00:25:05.140 audience this is

00:25:05.720 what it was

00:25:06.080 like.

00:25:06.440 This is what

00:25:06.860 he was like.

00:25:07.600 That's absolutely

00:25:08.900 part of

00:25:09.960 reporting.

00:25:10.880 So Dasha

00:25:11.940 Burns, with

00:25:12.480 the story with

00:25:13.360 John Fetterman,

00:25:14.040 is not that

00:25:14.540 he's in the

00:25:15.220 Kremlin.

00:25:15.940 It's that he

00:25:17.320 just had a

00:25:18.040 massive stroke

00:25:18.640 and we're all

00:25:19.160 wondering how

00:25:19.860 he's doing.

00:25:21.020 And he's given

00:25:22.140 no face-to-face

00:25:23.220 interviews, no

00:25:23.820 on-camera

00:25:24.540 interviews, so

00:25:25.300 she gets one,

00:25:26.800 responsibly comes

00:25:27.820 out to try to

00:25:28.440 tell us what

00:25:29.020 she saw.

00:25:29.820 I think we

00:25:30.240 have the

00:25:30.540 soundbite.

00:25:31.120 Let's listen

00:25:31.500 to it.

00:25:32.880 The screen

00:25:33.780 that he was

00:25:34.280 looking at

00:25:34.900 was transcribing

00:25:36.280 my questions so

00:25:37.300 he could read

00:25:38.060 them in real

00:25:39.440 time.

00:25:40.060 Because of

00:25:40.880 that auditory

00:25:41.500 processing issue,

00:25:42.520 he has a hard

00:25:42.980 time understanding

00:25:43.880 what people are

00:25:44.900 saying.

00:25:45.540 Once he can

00:25:45.940 read it,

00:25:46.420 though, he

00:25:46.820 can understand.

00:25:48.840 But I'll say

00:25:49.340 even those

00:25:50.120 small moments,

00:25:51.060 as you know,

00:25:51.520 Peter, behind

00:25:52.160 the scenes,

00:25:52.740 when you're

00:25:53.120 having some

00:25:53.800 of that small

00:25:54.300 talk before an

00:25:55.200 interview, during

00:25:56.040 some of those

00:25:56.540 conversations before

00:25:58.220 the closed

00:25:59.100 captioning was

00:25:59.840 rolling, it 0.77

00:26:00.380 wasn't clear that

00:26:01.160 he could

00:26:01.520 understand what

00:26:02.940 we were saying.

00:26:03.680 Well, she got

00:26:05.660 pilloried for

00:26:06.240 this, pilloried.

00:26:07.560 I mean, she

00:26:08.200 was accused of

00:26:09.000 ableism.

00:26:10.760 This is not

00:26:11.660 ableism.

00:26:12.520 This is not

00:26:12.860 mocking someone

00:26:13.600 for their

00:26:14.100 inborn disability.

00:26:15.520 This is trying to

00:26:16.180 figure out whether

00:26:16.640 someone is competent

00:26:17.500 to hold a U.S.

00:26:18.500 Senate seat.

00:26:19.100 That is an

00:26:19.520 entirely different

00:26:20.240 matter.

00:26:21.420 And I'll just

00:26:22.000 give you a couple

00:26:22.400 of examples.

00:26:23.220 Okay, Rebecca

00:26:23.700 Traster of New York

00:26:24.460 Magazine and the

00:26:25.060 Cut, she tweeted

00:26:25.840 she had recently

00:26:26.480 interviewed Fetterman

00:26:27.180 and found his

00:26:27.660 comprehension is,

00:26:28.460 quote, not at

00:26:29.860 all impaired.

00:26:31.320 He understands

00:26:32.120 everything.

00:26:32.700 It's just that he

00:26:33.260 reads it, which

00:26:34.760 requires extra

00:26:36.020 acuity, I would

00:26:37.400 argue, and

00:26:38.420 responds in real

00:26:39.220 time.

00:26:40.460 Podcaster Kara

00:26:41.400 Swisher, sorry 1.00

00:26:42.800 to say, but I

00:26:43.960 talked to John

00:26:44.660 Fetterman for over

00:26:45.420 an hour without

00:26:46.240 stop or any

00:26:47.440 aids, and this

00:26:48.520 is just nonsense.

00:26:51.160 Maybe this

00:26:51.540 reporter is just

00:26:52.400 bad at small

00:26:53.240 talk.

00:26:54.300 Molly Jong Fast,

00:26:55.340 another journalist

00:26:55.880 and podcast host,

00:26:56.600 said she too

00:26:57.100 recently interviewed

00:26:57.880 Fetterman.

00:26:58.680 He understood

00:26:59.260 everything I was

00:27:00.580 saying, and he

00:27:01.740 was funny.

00:27:02.900 And then when

00:27:03.280 there was any

00:27:03.720 pushback, saying,

00:27:06.000 you know, maybe

00:27:06.320 this is an

00:27:07.120 important comment

00:27:08.020 and Pennsylvanians

00:27:09.140 might care, you

00:27:10.660 get things like

00:27:11.200 this from Robert

00:27:11.960 Sherham, director

00:27:12.780 of University of

00:27:13.520 Southern California

00:27:14.100 Center for the

00:27:14.800 Political Future.

00:27:15.820 I thought or

00:27:16.720 hoped we had

00:27:17.300 passed this kind

00:27:18.260 of prejudice to

00:27:20.240 just even ask,

00:27:21.140 all right?

00:27:21.340 And Stephen

00:27:21.640 Orley, reporter

00:27:22.300 for Politico,

00:27:22.960 suggesting this

00:27:24.040 feels a hell of a

00:27:24.800 lot like ableism.

00:27:26.560 On and on it

00:27:27.380 goes.

00:27:28.420 OK, then we

00:27:29.880 see him come out

00:27:30.880 the other night.

00:27:31.580 OK, he was

00:27:32.260 fine.

00:27:32.960 He was fine.

00:27:34.340 There's something

00:27:34.720 wrong with your

00:27:35.320 small talk, you 1.00

00:27:36.480 moron. 1.00

00:27:37.360 Here's what we 1.00

00:27:38.020 saw.

00:27:38.460 OK, watch.

00:27:39.240 Here's what we

00:27:39.820 saw.

00:27:40.340 This is soundbite

00:27:41.700 one.

00:27:43.580 Hi.

00:27:44.060 Good night,

00:27:44.440 everybody.

00:27:45.320 You know, he has

00:27:45.920 never met an air

00:27:47.000 or an oil company

00:27:48.940 that he doesn't

00:27:49.560 swipe right about.

00:27:50.700 It's about

00:27:51.300 supporting and

00:27:52.300 helping, you know,

00:27:53.300 young earners,

00:27:55.180 excuse me, young

00:27:55.900 young, young,

00:27:57.980 young, you know,

00:28:00.200 students to give

00:28:01.540 them a break.

00:28:02.220 I believe that

00:28:03.220 that supporting

00:28:04.880 I do support

00:28:07.180 fracking and

00:28:08.600 I don't I

00:28:11.300 don't.

00:28:11.680 I support

00:28:13.280 fracking and

00:28:14.120 I stand and

00:28:14.880 I do support

00:28:15.540 fracking.

00:28:16.020 It's just the

00:28:16.560 same way that

00:28:17.320 university for

00:28:18.420 degrees as well

00:28:19.360 too.

00:28:19.560 But going to

00:28:20.120 those kind of

00:28:20.560 vocational

00:28:20.980 schools, able

00:28:22.220 to create a

00:28:22.740 career to

00:28:23.280 weigh, to

00:28:24.520 excuse me, to

00:28:25.440 weigh and

00:28:26.280 reach a lot of

00:28:27.500 a high salary

00:28:28.700 and again

00:28:29.340 supporting to

00:28:30.240 reduce those

00:28:30.700 costs are

00:28:31.180 critical too.

00:28:31.720 I want to

00:28:32.320 look into

00:28:33.440 the face

00:28:34.140 of every

00:28:35.000 woman in

00:28:36.080 Pennsylvania.

00:28:36.580 I believe if

00:28:38.300 my doctor

00:28:39.060 believes that

00:28:40.220 I'm fit to

00:28:40.920 serve and

00:28:42.020 and that's

00:28:42.720 what I believe

00:28:43.360 is appropriate,

00:28:44.360 they all believe

00:28:45.040 that I'm ready

00:28:45.520 to be served.

00:28:46.180 We can't be

00:28:46.760 held, you

00:28:47.640 know, ransom

00:28:49.340 to somebody

00:28:49.960 like Russia.

00:28:50.780 I made the

00:28:51.200 opportunity to

00:28:52.020 defend our

00:28:52.580 community as

00:28:53.380 the chief law

00:28:54.120 enforcement officer

00:28:54.920 there.

00:28:55.600 Everybody in

00:28:56.180 Braddock, an

00:28:56.980 overwhelming majority

00:28:58.460 community of

00:28:59.820 black

00:29:00.520 community and

00:29:02.440 I've always

00:29:02.860 believed that

00:29:03.360 the choice

00:29:03.740 believes women

00:29:05.040 and their

00:29:05.560 doctors and

00:29:06.720 again, it's

00:29:07.500 the Oz

00:29:07.900 rule.

00:29:08.600 He's on TV

00:29:09.580 and he's

00:29:09.960 lying.

00:29:10.540 I never

00:29:10.880 supported any

00:29:13.000 of that thing.

00:29:13.620 His family's

00:29:14.200 company was

00:29:15.140 levied the

00:29:16.840 largest fine

00:29:17.840 for ingratian

00:29:19.480 hiring of

00:29:20.960 immigrant

00:29:22.460 illegals.

00:29:24.880 Not at all

00:29:25.880 impaired.

00:29:26.540 These reporters

00:29:27.200 look like 1.00

00:29:28.080 liars. 1.00

00:29:28.840 They look like 1.00

00:29:29.360 partisan ideologues

00:29:30.520 who have a

00:29:31.320 horse in

00:29:31.740 this race

00:29:32.280 who were

00:29:33.040 part of

00:29:33.620 the effort

00:29:34.460 to obscure

00:29:35.520 the truth

00:29:36.240 until it was

00:29:37.160 staring us

00:29:37.940 right in the

00:29:38.760 face two

00:29:39.260 nights ago.

00:29:41.220 No question

00:29:42.420 about it.

00:29:43.120 They're all

00:29:43.640 partisan hacks.

00:29:44.960 And just to

00:29:46.240 be direct,

00:29:46.960 I mean,

00:29:47.340 not to mention

00:29:48.460 that John

00:29:48.880 Fetterman is

00:29:50.220 the sitting

00:29:50.860 lieutenant

00:29:51.320 governor.

00:29:51.980 He has a

00:29:52.580 constitutional

00:29:53.240 obligation to

00:29:54.300 let the people

00:29:55.080 of the

00:29:55.360 Commonwealth know

00:29:56.200 the condition

00:29:56.840 of his health.

00:29:57.600 when he had

00:29:58.500 the stroke

00:29:58.940 just prior to

00:30:01.320 the primary,

00:30:02.180 they covered

00:30:02.720 it up.

00:30:03.200 They said it

00:30:03.600 was just a

00:30:04.080 minor hiccup

00:30:06.340 in his health.

00:30:07.960 The media

00:30:08.380 then helped

00:30:09.020 him cover

00:30:09.520 that up.

00:30:10.380 And when you

00:30:10.600 look at the

00:30:12.560 juxtaposition

00:30:13.400 between the

00:30:15.300 way that

00:30:15.780 John Fetterman

00:30:16.500 was treated

00:30:17.740 back then

00:30:18.300 and the way

00:30:18.620 that I was

00:30:19.060 treated,

00:30:19.440 I had

00:30:19.760 multi-million

00:30:20.680 dollar media

00:30:21.640 companies

00:30:22.560 suing to

00:30:23.720 sit in on

00:30:24.640 my custody

00:30:25.380 trial,

00:30:25.780 suing me

00:30:26.280 to sit

00:30:26.600 on my

00:30:26.840 custody

00:30:27.080 trial as

00:30:27.540 a private

00:30:28.340 citizen.

00:30:29.160 Yet they

00:30:29.600 can't even

00:30:30.260 ask basic

00:30:31.560 questions about

00:30:32.800 a sitting

00:30:33.220 lieutenant

00:30:33.560 governor's

00:30:34.080 health that

00:30:35.080 in the

00:30:37.440 most important

00:30:38.860 Senate race

00:30:39.820 in the

00:30:40.320 country.

00:30:41.240 And I think

00:30:41.540 there's no

00:30:42.020 question that

00:30:42.840 all of these

00:30:43.580 reporters who

00:30:44.380 then went

00:30:45.020 after Dasha,

00:30:46.320 right,

00:30:46.560 that's her 0.84

00:30:46.880 name,

00:30:47.380 they owe

00:30:48.580 her an

00:30:48.920 apology,

00:30:49.680 no question

00:30:50.280 about it,

00:30:51.300 and with

00:30:52.480 regards to

00:30:53.260 the Senate

00:30:53.640 race.

00:30:54.040 And the

00:30:54.880 questions that

00:30:55.860 I think

00:30:56.200 people of

00:30:56.760 Pennsylvania

00:30:57.040 need to

00:30:57.440 ask right

00:30:57.940 now after

00:30:58.420 having watched

00:30:59.240 that debate

00:31:00.240 was if

00:31:02.520 John Fetterman

00:31:03.320 were in the

00:31:03.960 NFL's concussion

00:31:04.900 protocol,

00:31:05.580 would you let

00:31:05.960 him play on

00:31:06.400 Sunday?

00:31:07.080 I think the

00:31:07.460 answer is no.

00:31:08.580 Would you

00:31:09.180 let John

00:31:09.840 Fetterman drive

00:31:11.020 your children to

00:31:11.840 school?

00:31:12.720 I think the

00:31:13.200 answer to that

00:31:13.680 question is no.

00:31:14.660 Would you let

00:31:15.060 John Fetterman

00:31:15.900 administer his

00:31:16.840 own medication?

00:31:18.060 I think the

00:31:18.680 answer to that

00:31:19.240 question is no.

00:31:20.120 So why then

00:31:21.260 would we vote

00:31:22.880 to send him

00:31:23.680 to the

00:31:24.100 Senate,

00:31:24.780 which by

00:31:25.400 the way,

00:31:26.500 I don't know

00:31:26.860 if you've

00:31:27.180 talked to

00:31:27.640 senators,

00:31:28.100 but they

00:31:28.340 have a

00:31:28.660 fairly

00:31:28.960 arduous

00:31:29.560 schedule down

00:31:30.340 there.

00:31:30.600 It's a

00:31:30.780 six-year

00:31:31.180 term.

00:31:31.700 There are

00:31:31.960 constant

00:31:32.420 debates.

00:31:33.400 How is

00:31:33.760 he expected

00:31:34.520 to serve

00:31:35.760 in the

00:31:36.120 United States

00:31:36.740 Senate

00:31:37.140 for six

00:31:38.340 years?

00:31:39.280 And I

00:31:39.480 think the

00:31:39.800 people forget

00:31:41.800 that I too

00:31:43.060 had a brain

00:31:43.600 injury.

00:31:43.960 I fractured

00:31:44.360 my skull

00:31:44.820 in Afghanistan.

00:31:45.420 I know

00:31:46.180 how difficult

00:31:46.960 the rehab

00:31:48.140 for something

00:31:48.640 like that

00:31:49.160 can be.

00:31:49.700 The left

00:31:50.480 showed me

00:31:51.060 no quarter

00:31:52.380 when I ran

00:31:53.640 for Congress

00:31:54.220 and I ran

00:31:54.740 for Senate.

00:31:55.280 There were

00:31:55.480 no comments

00:31:56.320 about me

00:31:57.380 about ableism

00:31:58.640 back then.

00:31:59.720 So these

00:32:02.140 reporters,

00:32:02.880 they covered

00:32:03.780 for him.

00:32:04.580 And I think

00:32:05.040 they were,

00:32:06.880 I mean,

00:32:07.400 I think by

00:32:08.000 and large

00:32:08.320 Republicans

00:32:08.920 and a lot

00:32:09.460 of independents

00:32:10.040 don't trust

00:32:10.740 the legacy

00:32:11.620 media as it

00:32:12.520 is.

00:32:13.200 But this

00:32:14.520 cover-up of

00:32:15.120 John Fetterman's

00:32:15.800 health certainly

00:32:16.620 didn't help the

00:32:17.220 situation.

00:32:17.700 You know,

00:32:18.480 that's what

00:32:18.860 it's been.

00:32:19.340 It's been a

00:32:19.800 cover-up.

00:32:20.440 They have

00:32:20.940 kept him

00:32:21.360 under wraps.

00:32:22.120 The press,

00:32:23.020 with just a few

00:32:23.660 exceptions,

00:32:24.340 I tip my hat

00:32:25.040 to the

00:32:25.320 Washington Post,

00:32:26.460 did not demand

00:32:27.340 that this man

00:32:28.360 make himself

00:32:29.160 available publicly

00:32:30.100 so that we

00:32:30.980 could see

00:32:31.520 what we were

00:32:32.060 evaluating in

00:32:32.880 terms of this

00:32:33.340 race.

00:32:34.060 And he only

00:32:35.080 agreed to do

00:32:35.640 this one

00:32:36.060 debate late

00:32:36.800 in the process

00:32:37.420 under enormous

00:32:38.100 pressure.

00:32:39.060 And I'm sure

00:32:39.400 they're now

00:32:39.780 wishing that

00:32:40.340 they had not

00:32:40.980 done it.

00:32:41.720 But now that

00:32:42.240 they've done

00:32:42.560 it, it's

00:32:42.800 almost like the

00:32:43.280 issue has

00:32:43.720 shifted from

00:32:44.840 his health

00:32:45.940 or his,

00:32:47.000 you know,

00:32:47.480 positions to

00:32:49.180 his lies,

00:32:50.920 his cover-up

00:32:51.640 that he just

00:32:52.080 tried to pull.

00:32:52.580 The fast one,

00:32:53.800 he, his wife,

00:32:54.560 and his campaign

00:32:55.200 team just tried

00:32:56.340 to pull on the

00:32:57.620 people of

00:32:58.060 Pennsylvania,

00:32:58.760 not to mention

00:32:59.280 the American

00:32:59.820 people.

00:33:00.340 It's a question

00:33:01.000 of honesty

00:33:01.580 at this point.

00:33:02.900 Yeah, there's

00:33:03.340 no question

00:33:03.780 about it.

00:33:04.260 The media

00:33:04.680 have been

00:33:05.340 along with

00:33:06.760 the Fetterman

00:33:07.200 campaign for

00:33:07.880 the ride

00:33:08.220 the whole way.

00:33:09.680 And now here

00:33:10.560 we are a week

00:33:11.160 from Election

00:33:11.660 Day, 700,000

00:33:12.800 plus early

00:33:13.400 votes cast.

00:33:14.960 The race is

00:33:15.720 going to be

00:33:16.000 close in

00:33:16.380 Pennsylvania.

00:33:17.100 It's always,

00:33:17.660 it was always

00:33:18.300 going to be

00:33:18.940 close.

00:33:19.480 But like I

00:33:20.080 said, I think

00:33:20.460 Oz is going 0.97

00:33:20.920 to win.

00:33:21.620 But the fact

00:33:22.460 that it's even

00:33:23.320 close should,

00:33:25.040 it should tell

00:33:25.800 you something.

00:33:26.700 I mean, this,

00:33:27.500 this is why

00:33:28.320 the people of

00:33:29.640 this country,

00:33:30.080 well, let me

00:33:30.620 just say this.

00:33:31.500 This is why

00:33:32.360 President Trump

00:33:33.380 for a very

00:33:34.180 long time

00:33:35.120 called the media

00:33:36.400 the enemy

00:33:36.840 of the people.

00:33:38.000 This, this is

00:33:39.180 a very good

00:33:39.980 example of

00:33:40.780 exactly what

00:33:41.880 he means.

00:33:42.500 Now, are

00:33:43.460 there good

00:33:43.860 journalists out

00:33:44.420 there?

00:33:44.540 Like you

00:33:44.760 mentioned the

00:33:45.120 Washington Post

00:33:45.740 with regards

00:33:46.220 to this

00:33:46.480 Fetterman story.

00:33:47.140 Yes, I

00:33:47.640 agree with

00:33:48.360 you.

00:33:48.980 There are

00:33:49.440 good journals

00:33:49.920 out there.

00:33:50.720 There are

00:33:51.120 good media

00:33:52.120 companies out

00:33:52.720 there that do

00:33:53.300 the right

00:33:53.620 thing all the

00:33:54.360 time.

00:33:54.660 But when

00:33:55.500 President Trump

00:33:56.220 says that the

00:33:57.220 media is the

00:33:58.460 enemy of the

00:33:59.000 people, this is

00:33:59.580 exactly what he

00:34:00.300 means.

00:34:00.960 Because if they

00:34:01.480 were doing

00:34:02.060 their job and

00:34:03.080 doing it the

00:34:03.980 right way,

00:34:04.980 they would have

00:34:05.660 been asked

00:34:06.340 asking relentlessly

00:34:07.580 about John

00:34:08.680 Fetterman's

00:34:09.180 health.

00:34:09.460 And now there

00:34:09.820 was a question

00:34:10.380 during the

00:34:10.780 debate about

00:34:11.280 whether or not

00:34:11.740 he would release

00:34:12.320 his health

00:34:12.720 records.

00:34:14.320 And I don't

00:34:15.440 think we need

00:34:15.880 him to do

00:34:16.200 that now.

00:34:16.660 I think people

00:34:17.120 have all the

00:34:17.700 information that

00:34:18.280 they need to

00:34:18.780 pull that lever

00:34:19.400 in a week.

00:34:20.380 And I think a

00:34:21.660 lot of people,

00:34:22.960 I think his

00:34:23.520 performance in

00:34:24.060 that debate

00:34:24.480 is going to be

00:34:25.640 outcome

00:34:25.900 determinative.

00:34:26.640 And I think

00:34:26.940 that's why I

00:34:27.640 think this race

00:34:28.140 is going to

00:34:28.400 break Oz.

00:34:28.900 I'm going to

00:34:35.500 bring you the

00:34:37.620 latest edition of

00:34:38.520 our mailbag.

00:34:39.740 And you can

00:34:40.060 email me now at

00:34:41.220 Megan at

00:34:42.200 MeganKelley.com.

00:34:43.720 I got so many

00:34:44.740 nice messages from

00:34:45.520 you all this week.

00:34:46.200 Thank you all so

00:34:47.460 much.

00:34:48.040 And every week I'll

00:34:48.840 continue reading a

00:34:49.500 few and I'll read

00:34:51.640 them on air.

00:34:52.240 I mean a few on

00:34:53.000 air and be part of

00:34:53.800 our MK Mailbag

00:34:54.960 segment.

00:34:56.140 All right, so let's

00:34:57.200 dive right in.

00:34:58.320 Here is one that

00:34:59.920 actually jumped out

00:35:00.500 at me.

00:35:00.680 This is from Sam.

00:35:01.820 It says, requesting

00:35:02.440 guidance in not

00:35:03.900 feeling like a

00:35:04.780 victim.

00:35:05.600 Hello, Megan.

00:35:06.200 I hope all's well

00:35:06.940 with you.

00:35:07.220 I'm writing to you

00:35:07.800 to get some

00:35:08.220 pointers on how

00:35:08.820 you deal with

00:35:09.280 stressors.

00:35:10.380 I am currently a

00:35:11.020 full-time worker

00:35:11.740 and in graduate

00:35:12.640 school.

00:35:13.160 Every time something

00:35:13.780 happens, I go into

00:35:15.300 this spiral of

00:35:16.260 feeling like a

00:35:17.220 victim.

00:35:18.000 For example, if I

00:35:18.980 had parents, this

00:35:20.040 wouldn't happen.

00:35:20.860 Or if I had

00:35:21.440 millions of dollars

00:35:22.360 of money, I could

00:35:23.520 be a full-time

00:35:24.080 student, etc.

00:35:25.080 I have recently

00:35:26.100 become your number

00:35:26.780 one fan.

00:35:27.360 I admire how

00:35:27.860 you handle

00:35:28.220 stressors of

00:35:28.760 life.

00:35:29.080 Can you please

00:35:29.500 share how you

00:35:29.980 handle difficult

00:35:30.820 situations?

00:35:32.380 What advice would

00:35:33.120 you give me to

00:35:34.440 not feel like a

00:35:35.860 victim?

00:35:36.320 Thank you.

00:35:37.100 Okay, I

00:35:37.500 appreciate this,

00:35:38.560 Sam, because that

00:35:39.100 is a terrible

00:35:39.520 feeling and you

00:35:40.320 would be looking

00:35:40.780 to change it if

00:35:41.640 that were your

00:35:42.420 go-to.

00:35:43.580 And I would

00:35:43.900 say, first of

00:35:44.700 all, you have to

00:35:45.520 change your

00:35:46.320 mentality.

00:35:47.280 Don't stop using

00:35:48.140 words like unfair

00:35:49.200 or bad luck.

00:35:51.260 And stop using

00:35:53.020 terms like victim.

00:35:54.340 Just completely

00:35:55.340 get rid of those

00:35:56.140 words.

00:35:56.540 Sometimes I'll

00:35:57.540 catch myself

00:35:58.040 saying it's

00:35:58.600 just really

00:35:58.900 unfair.

00:35:59.980 And then I

00:36:00.500 immediately say

00:36:01.380 like, no, fine.

00:36:03.040 I mean, it may

00:36:03.600 be, but don't

00:36:04.400 get mired in

00:36:05.100 that.

00:36:05.920 You should

00:36:06.240 always be

00:36:06.780 thinking about

00:36:07.460 massive challenges

00:36:08.420 being thrown

00:36:08.920 your way as a

00:36:09.500 gift.

00:36:10.780 You know, even

00:36:11.520 the worst

00:36:12.000 possible challenges,

00:36:13.000 not to say

00:36:13.360 they're not sad,

00:36:14.140 they're not hard,

00:36:14.980 or that they're

00:36:15.720 fair, but they

00:36:16.880 are in a way a

00:36:17.680 gift.

00:36:18.320 Because you

00:36:18.860 will never

00:36:19.400 become strong,

00:36:20.440 ever, unless you

00:36:21.480 have hard things

00:36:22.440 thrown at you, and

00:36:23.920 then you deal with

00:36:24.880 them.

00:36:25.660 That's the only

00:36:26.440 way to getting

00:36:27.400 courageous, to

00:36:28.240 getting strong, to

00:36:29.480 getting just

00:36:30.800 confident in your

00:36:31.680 own skin that you

00:36:32.260 can handle life's

00:36:33.100 challenges.

00:36:33.580 So you've got to

00:36:35.080 accept them, and

00:36:35.680 you've got to say,

00:36:36.120 great, here's an

00:36:36.620 opportunity for me to

00:36:37.360 grow, for me to

00:36:38.120 do better, for me to

00:36:39.240 see if I can get

00:36:39.740 from A to B on my

00:36:40.540 own.

00:36:40.920 And once you do,

00:36:41.620 you should give

00:36:42.020 yourself a moment of

00:36:42.700 patting yourself on

00:36:43.340 the back.

00:36:45.020 If you have

00:36:45.860 disadvantages like

00:36:47.040 no parents,

00:36:48.320 my heart goes out

00:36:49.660 to you, but that's

00:36:50.820 as much time as

00:36:51.840 we're going to

00:36:52.200 spend on it.

00:36:53.440 No good comes from

00:36:54.680 staying stuck in

00:36:56.060 poor me.

00:36:57.700 But it's almost an

00:36:58.880 advantage in a way to

00:37:00.000 have a lot of stuff

00:37:01.240 like that in your

00:37:02.140 life.

00:37:02.820 You will wind up, if

00:37:03.820 you just keep

00:37:04.460 rowing, you will

00:37:05.960 wind up stronger than

00:37:06.940 everyone who didn't

00:37:08.480 have to go through

00:37:08.960 those challenges.

00:37:10.220 So instead of

00:37:10.980 saying poor me,

00:37:12.480 say thank you.

00:37:13.800 Another chance to

00:37:15.360 figure out how to

00:37:15.980 deal with adversity

00:37:16.780 and move off of 0.97

00:37:18.420 victimizing words and

00:37:20.320 thoughts immediately.

00:37:21.580 If you can't do it

00:37:22.320 easily, use cognitive

00:37:23.680 behavioral therapy to

00:37:24.760 think about something

00:37:25.380 else, whatever your

00:37:26.520 go-to is.

00:37:27.920 You know, as I've said

00:37:28.720 before, it was my old

00:37:29.840 sweet dog, Bosh's face.

00:37:31.280 That's so cute and it

00:37:32.280 really helps me rejigger

00:37:33.560 my brain when I get

00:37:34.440 stuck on something bad.

00:37:35.560 But you find your own

00:37:36.500 and then be religious

00:37:37.940 about it because

00:37:38.640 staying stuck in

00:37:39.680 victim mentality keeps

00:37:41.120 your life stuck in

00:37:42.240 victim mentality and

00:37:43.640 you know, victim

00:37:44.620 ology begets 0.99

00:37:46.400 victim ology.

00:37:47.440 So you do have to

00:37:48.160 move on.

00:37:48.700 All right, let's see.

00:37:50.600 Okay, this is a

00:37:52.200 line from Eric

00:37:54.280 Rostad.

00:37:54.780 He says, good

00:37:55.160 evening, Megan.

00:37:55.720 I enjoy your no

00:37:56.420 nonsense approach to

00:37:57.320 news and that you

00:37:58.420 don't let people get

00:37:59.080 away with shenanigans

00:37:59.900 on your show.

00:38:00.880 I'm taking your

00:38:01.740 advice this election

00:38:02.440 and starting out

00:38:03.460 myself as an

00:38:04.420 independent.

00:38:05.240 I've always leaned

00:38:05.820 right because of my

00:38:06.540 military service and

00:38:07.300 appreciation.

00:38:08.000 Ironically, Tulsi was

00:38:08.820 the first Democrat I

00:38:09.600 actually liked.

00:38:10.640 I'm sure you noticed

00:38:11.240 how we can't even

00:38:12.520 agree on words and

00:38:15.020 what they mean

00:38:15.500 anymore, like the

00:38:16.620 word woman.

00:38:17.640 But I can't even

00:38:18.300 define Republican or

00:38:19.420 Democrat.

00:38:20.060 I've tried.

00:38:20.980 The dictionary

00:38:21.400 doesn't help.

00:38:21.980 It says they're both

00:38:22.540 governments of the

00:38:23.320 people elected by the

00:38:24.300 people.

00:38:24.640 Maybe you can help

00:38:25.220 us out by defining

00:38:26.540 democracy, Democrat,

00:38:27.820 Republican, and so

00:38:29.340 on.

00:38:29.960 Thanks for the great

00:38:30.580 work.

00:38:31.520 Eric, I wish I

00:38:32.160 could.

00:38:32.960 I wish I could, but

00:38:34.420 do we really know at

00:38:36.000 this point?

00:38:36.660 What does it mean to

00:38:37.460 be a Republican?

00:38:39.040 Does it mean to be

00:38:40.440 pro-free trade?

00:38:43.460 Does it mean to be

00:38:44.520 pro-military and

00:38:46.120 strong intervention?

00:38:47.260 Does it mean to be

00:38:48.020 pro-national security

00:38:49.440 state?

00:38:50.000 I don't think so.

00:38:52.380 Those things have

00:38:53.160 all changed.

00:38:54.360 And what does it

00:38:54.920 mean to be a

00:38:55.320 Democrat or to be

00:38:56.360 even liberal, right?

00:38:57.380 Does it mean to be

00:38:58.780 pro-woman? 0.93

00:39:01.780 Does it mean to be

00:39:02.960 anti-people's skin

00:39:05.860 color being used

00:39:07.560 against them?

00:39:08.080 I don't think so.

00:39:10.260 Right?

00:39:10.520 So forget the

00:39:11.460 labels.

00:39:12.300 It's one of the

00:39:12.900 reasons why I am

00:39:13.580 registered independent.

00:39:14.760 Forget that nonsense.

00:39:16.240 Just vote however

00:39:17.860 your heart is aligned.

00:39:19.880 Don't vote for 0.99

00:39:20.560 douchebags and don't 0.99

00:39:22.040 vote for people who 0.78

00:39:22.840 you don't think you

00:39:23.380 can trust, right?

00:39:24.560 And don't get hung

00:39:25.480 up on party labels

00:39:26.320 unless you really want

00:39:27.460 to vote in the

00:39:27.820 primary and you have

00:39:29.140 to be registered in

00:39:30.420 that party's party in

00:39:32.080 order to cast that

00:39:32.980 vote.

00:39:33.320 And then that's the

00:39:34.040 moment of truth.

00:39:34.620 But what you call

00:39:35.980 yourself is up to

00:39:36.820 you.

00:39:37.480 How you identify

00:39:38.260 more generally is up

00:39:39.680 to you.

00:39:40.560 I'm not a big fan of

00:39:41.640 wearing people's team

00:39:42.360 jerseys.

00:39:43.180 You know, you wear the

00:39:44.380 one that makes the

00:39:44.920 most sense and then

00:39:45.680 you do what feels

00:39:46.560 right to you and

00:39:47.200 your God.

00:39:48.100 Thank you for

00:39:49.320 writing in and keep

00:39:50.260 them coming.

00:39:51.900 Well, unfortunately,

00:39:53.520 our connection with

00:39:54.940 Sean Parnell went

00:39:56.880 down and it went

00:39:57.820 down hard.

00:39:59.080 And we were never

00:39:59.920 able to reestablish

00:40:01.260 that connection.

00:40:02.000 And we're still not

00:40:03.560 able to reestablish

00:40:04.380 that connection.

00:40:04.960 So hence, we've

00:40:06.440 labeled this podcast

00:40:07.800 part one because we

00:40:10.040 will deliver part two.

00:40:11.180 There's so much to go

00:40:11.900 over and we're

00:40:12.700 actually really

00:40:13.580 flattered that Sean

00:40:14.940 trusted us with this

00:40:15.980 interview in which

00:40:17.220 we're going to go

00:40:17.760 into the reasons why

00:40:19.440 he withdrew from that

00:40:20.260 race and everything

00:40:20.980 that happened with

00:40:21.640 his family and so on.

00:40:23.000 But we're going to

00:40:23.740 pause it here as we

00:40:25.540 try to solve those

00:40:26.500 technical difficulties

00:40:27.380 and then bring you

00:40:28.660 part two.

00:40:29.240 It may not be

00:40:29.800 tomorrow, but it'll

00:40:30.520 be soon.

00:40:31.000 And I promise we

00:40:32.120 will bring it to

00:40:32.760 you and hopefully

00:40:33.700 tomorrow we will

00:40:35.340 have solved all of

00:40:36.080 our technical issues

00:40:36.840 and everything will

00:40:37.740 be just as smooth

00:40:39.080 as it always is.

00:40:40.300 Thank you for

00:40:40.940 listening.

00:40:44.000 Thanks for listening

00:40:44.860 to The Megyn Kelly

00:40:45.560 Show.

00:40:46.160 No BS, no agenda,

00:40:47.860 and no fear.

The Megyn Kelly Show - October 27, 2022

Megyn's Tribute to Her Sister, and Media Lying to Cover for Fetterman： Part One with Sean Parnell ｜ Ep. 421

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