The Megyn Kelly Show - October 27, 2022


Megyn's Tribute to Her Sister, and Media Lying to Cover for Fetterman： Part One with Sean Parnell ｜ Ep. 421


Episode Stats

Length

40 minutes

Words per Minute

168.45535

Word Count

6,875

Sentence Count

490

Misogynist Sentences

29

Hate Speech Sentences

7


Summary

Suzanne Crosley was a firecracker. Strong, funny, wise, but still vulnerable. She was born on June 5th, 1964, in Nyack, New York, just north of New York City. My mom grew up not far from there and my dad was from Brooklyn. They met and married young while my mom was in nursing school. My sister was their firstborn, and from the start, Suzanne was beautiful. She used to pride herself on having a great nose and perfect feet. And she was right. My brother Pete came along 13 months later, and I followed five years after that. So there was about six and a half years between my sister and me. And as I so often did, I felt relief that my sister was there.


Transcript

00:00:00.480 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.
00:00:11.560 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.
00:00:15.220 We have got a lot of news to get to today, and we intend to do just that.
00:00:20.340 But first, if you'll permit me, a personal moment.
00:00:23.260 But my sister, Suzanne Crosley, was a firecracker.
00:00:29.940 Strong, funny, wise, but still vulnerable.
00:00:34.760 She was born on June 5th, 1964, in Nyack, New York, just north of New York City.
00:00:40.140 My mom grew up not far from there, and my dad was from Brooklyn.
00:00:43.380 They met and they married young while my mom was in nursing school.
00:00:46.620 My sister was their firstborn, and from the start, Suzanne was beautiful.
00:00:50.880 Big, blue eyes, perfect alabaster skin.
00:00:54.820 She used to pride herself on having a great nose and perfect feet, and she was right.
00:00:59.620 My brother Pete came along 13 months later, and I followed five years after that.
00:01:05.060 So there were about six and a half years between my sister and me.
00:01:09.220 She often felt more like a mother figure than a sister.
00:01:13.000 When I was little, she was an incredible caretaker to me.
00:01:16.480 My mom was in school and working full-time getting her degrees in psychiatric nursing.
00:01:21.220 My sister would later look at any school photo of me where my hair was combed nicely,
00:01:24.860 or I was in a cute outfit, and say,
00:01:26.540 That's thanks to me!
00:01:28.560 I made sure you look good, like my hair here and my cute little dress.
00:01:33.020 My mom laughed and agreed.
00:01:34.860 It was just one of the many ways in which Sue took care of me.
00:01:38.360 She helped teach me how to tie my shoes, how to read, how to find and apply the right makeup when I was a teenager, botching it.
00:01:47.020 From letting me sleep on her floor when I had nightmares as a kid,
00:01:50.140 to introducing me to the wonders of Robbie Benson, John Travolta, and Sean Cassidy,
00:01:56.340 my sister often found ways to improve my life.
00:01:58.900 One time when I was in second grade, I wrote about this in my book,
00:02:03.440 I was looking forward to bringing home the class bear, Clancy.
00:02:07.520 Each kid got to take Clancy home on successive Fridays,
00:02:11.280 and my turn had finally arrived.
00:02:13.060 Except I didn't feel well that day,
00:02:15.680 and I told Miss Clancy, who had named the bear after her,
00:02:19.460 that I felt nauseous and I wanted to go to the nurse.
00:02:22.620 She didn't believe me.
00:02:24.420 Well, sure enough, I soon threw up in front of everyone.
00:02:28.580 I was embarrassed.
00:02:30.220 And Miss Clancy was angry.
00:02:32.980 She sent me to the nurse's office, and I asked her if I could still take Clancy.
00:02:36.800 No, she said coldly.
00:02:39.120 I was devastated.
00:02:40.220 When I got home and told my then 13-year-old sister what had happened,
00:02:44.820 she was outraged.
00:02:46.360 She went right down to the mall and bought me my own Clancy.
00:02:51.200 It was an exact replica.
00:02:53.800 I couldn't believe it.
00:02:55.660 I was absolutely thrilled.
00:02:58.520 My very own Clancy that I didn't even have to share.
00:03:01.820 Suzanne had erased the sting of my teacher's cruelty.
00:03:05.340 One time, she was babysitting me and my friend at the friend's house.
00:03:11.180 The friend's parents were out to dinner,
00:03:12.940 and my sister let us watch Saturday Night Fever,
00:03:16.160 which was rated R,
00:03:17.540 but we were dying to see it,
00:03:19.100 and it happened to be on TV that night.
00:03:21.400 The parents unexpectedly came home while it was on,
00:03:24.960 and my friend's stepfather was visibly angry.
00:03:27.620 He grabbed my friend by the arm and yelled,
00:03:30.300 Get upstairs!
00:03:30.940 The sleepover is done!
00:03:32.860 I started upstairs, too, to get my stuff.
00:03:36.320 He threatened my friend on the way up,
00:03:37.980 saying,
00:03:38.380 You are gonna get it!
00:03:40.120 I couldn't believe his anger over a stupid movie
00:03:42.520 a couple of nine-year-old girls sneaked on the TV,
00:03:45.180 and Suzanne went right over to him and said,
00:03:48.080 Don't you touch my sister!
00:03:50.220 Meg, let's go.
00:03:52.200 Off we went,
00:03:53.020 and as I so often did,
00:03:55.160 I felt relief that my sister was there.
00:03:58.720 It was Suzanne,
00:04:00.300 who was home with me and my mom
00:04:02.200 the night our 45-year-old father died,
00:04:04.980 December 15, 1985.
00:04:07.540 It was near midnight when she shook me in my bed,
00:04:10.060 saying,
00:04:10.380 Wake up!
00:04:11.140 Daddy had a heart attack.
00:04:13.240 What followed was the most painful night of our lives.
00:04:16.660 I was 15,
00:04:17.440 she was 22,
00:04:19.100 and it was the beginning of a very hard year.
00:04:23.020 Suzanne and I would find ways to make our mom laugh,
00:04:26.180 to commiserate when we felt powerless,
00:04:28.640 to help her to pick up the slack around the house
00:04:31.160 when my mom was in too much pain to do it.
00:04:34.700 Whenever I needed to feel better about things,
00:04:36.980 I called Suzanne.
00:04:38.700 She had this special power of knowing exactly what to say.
00:04:42.460 She had institutional knowledge of me
00:04:44.660 and used it in just the right ways,
00:04:46.940 whether it was in grieving our dad
00:04:48.840 or anything else,
00:04:50.740 for all the days of my life.
00:04:53.020 So far.
00:04:55.540 She went back to college after my dad's death
00:04:58.200 and invited me to visit.
00:05:00.140 She took me and my best friend out
00:05:01.840 and let us sneak a drink
00:05:02.900 and feel like grown-ups.
00:05:04.820 She was so pretty.
00:05:06.600 Her feathered blonde hair and beautiful smile
00:05:08.640 could catch the attention of anyone in any room,
00:05:11.260 and her acerbic wit could level you
00:05:13.800 with its clever edge.
00:05:15.000 More than anything,
00:05:17.220 she loved to make fun of herself and of others.
00:05:20.180 A skill she came by honestly thanks to our mom.
00:05:24.020 As much as Suzanne loved her own feet,
00:05:26.800 she hated mine.
00:05:28.220 She used to say,
00:05:28.960 your toes look like fingers,
00:05:30.460 and my fingers were even worse.
00:05:32.600 We used to sleep in the same bed
00:05:33.980 when we slept at my Nana's house.
00:05:35.300 Stay away from me with those spidery fingers,
00:05:37.760 she used to say.
00:05:40.020 Those summers we would spend at my Nana's house,
00:05:42.980 Nan and Pop had a boatyard,
00:05:45.120 were magical.
00:05:47.100 Suzanne and I would play waitress
00:05:48.380 with our grandparents' spare order pads
00:05:50.880 and make ice cream floats
00:05:52.380 for our brother and his friends.
00:05:54.560 She always included me in her fun plans.
00:05:57.580 We would watch Elvis Presley movies together
00:05:59.520 or eat TV dinners in front of the Brady Bunch.
00:06:02.560 We watched The Waltons
00:06:03.760 and Little House on the Prairie religiously.
00:06:07.180 We went to the annual carnival together.
00:06:10.000 We laughed,
00:06:11.280 and she taught me the ropes of life.
00:06:14.580 When I was in law school,
00:06:16.420 my sister was a young teacher,
00:06:17.980 newly married and with no money.
00:06:19.540 I had even less
00:06:21.160 and was leaving her house one time
00:06:23.220 with no gas
00:06:24.080 and no spare change
00:06:25.240 to get even a gallon.
00:06:26.920 She reached into her purse
00:06:28.260 and pulled out a 20.
00:06:30.020 It might as well have been $1,000.
00:06:32.660 I was so grateful.
00:06:34.640 I knew she didn't have it to spare,
00:06:36.280 but it got me home
00:06:37.100 and kept my tank filled for days,
00:06:39.260 and I never forgot it.
00:06:42.100 I moved to Chicago
00:06:43.220 after becoming a lawyer,
00:06:44.540 and she and my mom came
00:06:46.000 for what would be a visit
00:06:46.920 we'd never forget.
00:06:48.260 Not because anything extraordinary
00:06:49.500 happened,
00:06:50.000 but just because
00:06:50.600 we had so much fun together.
00:06:53.760 I will always remember
00:06:54.920 sitting in my car,
00:06:56.280 the three of us,
00:06:57.020 blasting Billy Idol's
00:06:58.580 dancing with myself,
00:06:59.900 singing and laughing so hard
00:07:01.940 our stomachs hurt.
00:07:04.060 This would become
00:07:04.940 one of my favorite memories
00:07:06.060 in life.
00:07:08.160 Suzanne was always quick to laugh.
00:07:11.960 Life was not easy
00:07:13.080 for my sister.
00:07:14.880 Her marriage ultimately fell apart
00:07:16.460 under very trying circumstances.
00:07:18.800 She raised her three kids
00:07:20.240 by herself.
00:07:21.700 She had given up teaching
00:07:22.940 to be a homemaker
00:07:23.780 and had next to no money.
00:07:26.660 Life threw many challenges at her.
00:07:29.340 She got swept up
00:07:30.240 in the opioid crisis
00:07:31.300 thanks to a doctor
00:07:32.220 who told her
00:07:33.340 a minor painkiller
00:07:34.340 was not addictive.
00:07:36.380 Later,
00:07:36.960 she got clean and sober
00:07:38.000 and rebuilt her life.
00:07:40.320 I once asked her
00:07:41.280 if I could talk about this publicly,
00:07:42.900 and she said it was okay.
00:07:44.120 We actually had plans
00:07:46.380 for her to come on
00:07:47.120 and talk about it all
00:07:48.340 right here one day.
00:07:50.700 She told me shortly
00:07:51.660 after I launched the show
00:07:52.740 that she wanted
00:07:53.680 to tell her story,
00:07:54.880 that she thought
00:07:55.880 it might help people.
00:07:57.960 I always imagined us
00:07:59.300 having that conversation
00:08:01.220 and it being
00:08:02.440 a triumphant moment for her,
00:08:04.640 a time she could tell the world
00:08:05.940 that like so many,
00:08:07.800 she had faced real struggle
00:08:09.240 but had survived
00:08:10.400 and even thrived.
00:08:12.760 We never got around to it.
00:08:15.500 The tabloids attacked her
00:08:17.160 as I became a public figure.
00:08:20.000 I got wind
00:08:20.640 that one publication
00:08:21.520 was preparing a hit piece
00:08:22.780 on her
00:08:23.360 from when she was still
00:08:24.860 suffering with addiction.
00:08:26.920 I called in every favor
00:08:27.960 to stop it
00:08:28.600 and thought I had.
00:08:30.380 Later,
00:08:30.820 I found out
00:08:31.440 they ran it anyway.
00:08:33.500 My sister never told me.
00:08:35.800 She protected me
00:08:36.820 even then.
00:08:38.000 Her children
00:08:40.460 were her greatest
00:08:41.140 source of happiness
00:08:42.100 bar none.
00:08:43.820 Throughout her ups and downs,
00:08:45.300 she loved them deeply.
00:08:47.000 She would light up
00:08:47.820 talking about her kids.
00:08:49.380 She was so proud
00:08:50.320 of each one of them.
00:08:51.920 Emily,
00:08:52.380 the spitfire
00:08:53.160 whose moxie
00:08:54.420 is matched
00:08:54.860 by her deeply
00:08:55.780 caring nature.
00:08:57.520 Brian,
00:08:58.060 the whip-smart
00:08:58.840 middle child,
00:08:59.660 accomplished,
00:09:00.620 reflective,
00:09:01.980 soulful.
00:09:03.140 And Chris,
00:09:04.180 the eldest,
00:09:05.280 like his mom,
00:09:06.100 funny,
00:09:06.700 direct,
00:09:07.040 no-nonsense
00:09:07.940 and now
00:09:09.020 a strong
00:09:09.540 and loving parent
00:09:10.300 himself.
00:09:12.140 In our adult years,
00:09:13.860 as challenges
00:09:14.800 kept coming
00:09:15.480 her way
00:09:16.140 and my career
00:09:17.360 took off,
00:09:17.960 we had a bit
00:09:18.420 of a role reversal.
00:09:20.180 I became more
00:09:21.220 of the caretaker,
00:09:22.380 which she did not love
00:09:23.660 but seemed resigned
00:09:25.240 to accept.
00:09:26.720 It was an adjustment
00:09:27.760 for both of us.
00:09:29.860 She never stopped
00:09:30.980 with her kindnesses.
00:09:32.400 She took in
00:09:33.080 my vicious dog,
00:09:34.120 Bailey,
00:09:34.760 who bit all of us,
00:09:35.980 but who I did not
00:09:37.160 have the heart
00:09:37.920 to put down
00:09:38.720 and who she loved,
00:09:40.120 too.
00:09:41.400 She'd send my kids
00:09:42.380 gifts she made,
00:09:43.880 little dough ornaments
00:09:44.860 for the Christmas tree,
00:09:46.060 or a family portrait
00:09:47.280 she had drawn.
00:09:49.160 She would come to visit
00:09:50.300 with games in tow.
00:09:52.480 On one recent Thanksgiving,
00:09:54.100 she had us play this game
00:09:55.160 where we filled tissue boxes
00:09:56.280 with ping-pong balls,
00:09:57.700 strapped them to our waists,
00:09:59.120 and then danced vigorously
00:10:00.480 to music.
00:10:01.040 the first one
00:10:02.260 to get all the ping-pong balls
00:10:03.940 out of the tissue box
00:10:05.600 won.
00:10:06.580 Again,
00:10:07.160 crying,
00:10:07.920 we laughed so hard.
00:10:09.240 Luckily,
00:10:10.160 someone got
00:10:10.820 some of those laughs
00:10:11.880 on tape.
00:10:13.060 so much fun
00:10:35.700 to watch now.
00:10:38.500 Shortly after that,
00:10:40.320 my sister's health
00:10:41.100 took a turn.
00:10:42.840 Liver enzymes
00:10:43.520 didn't look right.
00:10:44.640 Legs started swelling.
00:10:46.440 She saw specialist
00:10:47.220 after specialist.
00:10:48.140 Was it cancer?
00:10:49.360 A heart ailment?
00:10:50.460 No.
00:10:51.420 No,
00:10:51.720 they told us.
00:10:52.800 Test after test
00:10:53.660 and no diagnosis.
00:10:56.220 She was real thin
00:10:57.360 and eating was tough.
00:11:00.480 Over the past year,
00:11:01.340 she was in and out
00:11:02.020 of the hospital
00:11:02.560 as we tried to figure out
00:11:04.000 what was going on.
00:11:05.600 She was released
00:11:06.640 after a short stay
00:11:07.820 just last month.
00:11:09.140 The main direction
00:11:10.880 was for her to eat.
00:11:12.480 We needed to get
00:11:13.080 some nutrients in her.
00:11:15.140 And then came last Friday
00:11:16.520 when my mom found her
00:11:17.720 unresponsive.
00:11:19.440 My poor mom
00:11:20.620 who lived with Suzanne.
00:11:22.760 They became like
00:11:23.760 frickin' frack
00:11:24.440 up there in Albany
00:11:25.260 watching reruns
00:11:26.480 of Gunsmoke
00:11:27.380 and arguing over
00:11:28.340 the volume on the TV.
00:11:30.580 We had always imagined
00:11:31.860 my sister taking care
00:11:33.020 of our mom
00:11:33.540 in my mom's
00:11:34.760 later years.
00:11:35.580 We joked that Sue
00:11:36.380 would do it
00:11:36.900 and my brother Pete
00:11:37.580 and I would pay for it.
00:11:39.580 We'd never foreseen
00:11:40.880 that my 81-year-old mother
00:11:42.340 would be the caretaker
00:11:43.500 for Suzanne.
00:11:45.800 But that's how it goes,
00:11:47.020 right?
00:11:48.120 Moms never stop caretaking.
00:11:50.800 When Suzanne
00:11:51.480 started feeling ill,
00:11:52.440 my mom swooped right in.
00:11:54.460 I don't know
00:11:54.840 how many doctor's visits
00:11:55.820 my mom went to
00:11:56.700 with my sister.
00:11:57.840 And Lord help the doctor
00:11:59.060 who took too long
00:11:59.900 to tell my mother
00:12:00.580 upon meeting her
00:12:01.360 that she does not
00:12:02.120 look 81.
00:12:02.700 We thought Suzanne
00:12:05.620 was on the mend.
00:12:07.220 She looked ill,
00:12:08.460 but she'd been released
00:12:09.600 and was looking forward
00:12:10.380 to the holidays.
00:12:11.860 I hadn't seen her
00:12:12.860 in a few months.
00:12:14.240 She had suggested
00:12:15.200 a visit in August,
00:12:16.480 but we were too busy
00:12:17.920 and I told her
00:12:19.260 I couldn't do it.
00:12:21.540 How I wish
00:12:22.260 I could have that one back.
00:12:23.440 Suzanne collapsed
00:12:32.940 on Friday,
00:12:33.920 October 21st.
00:12:35.800 The ambulance came
00:12:36.960 and took her to the hospital
00:12:37.980 where she had
00:12:39.020 a heart attack.
00:12:40.400 I was with her
00:12:41.220 at the end,
00:12:41.840 holding her hand.
00:12:43.460 She wouldn't have liked
00:12:44.160 my spidery fingers on her.
00:12:46.340 I did it anyway.
00:12:48.820 I told her
00:12:49.540 it was okay
00:12:50.040 for her to rest,
00:12:51.360 to be with our dad
00:12:52.700 and our nana
00:12:53.640 who she loved so much.
00:12:56.080 And then she was gone.
00:12:59.140 She won't be
00:12:59.880 at Emily's wedding.
00:13:00.920 She won't meet
00:13:01.440 her future grandchildren.
00:13:03.520 Her kids don't know
00:13:04.420 what they're going to do
00:13:05.060 without her advice.
00:13:06.880 And I feel the same.
00:13:08.900 Who's going to make
00:13:09.680 fun of me now
00:13:10.360 in a loving,
00:13:11.340 don't-take-yourself-too-seriously
00:13:12.680 kind of way?
00:13:14.300 Who's going to tell me
00:13:15.120 to put on our favorite movie,
00:13:16.320 Willy Wonka,
00:13:17.080 when the rough patches come
00:13:18.240 in my own life?
00:13:19.600 We were supposed
00:13:21.440 to take care
00:13:22.020 of our mom together,
00:13:23.120 to commiserate
00:13:24.540 on life's challenges,
00:13:25.560 to watch our kids
00:13:26.240 grow up
00:13:26.680 and become parents
00:13:27.440 themselves.
00:13:28.640 She left too early.
00:13:32.440 The love of a sibling
00:13:33.760 is more complicated
00:13:34.920 than that of a parent.
00:13:36.720 The relationship
00:13:37.320 has different layers
00:13:38.140 to it.
00:13:39.340 How I wish
00:13:40.160 I had nurtured
00:13:40.840 our connection
00:13:41.540 more recently.
00:13:43.820 You get busy
00:13:44.840 with your own stuff.
00:13:46.540 Focus on your job,
00:13:47.780 your kids,
00:13:48.280 your marriage,
00:13:49.720 your siblings
00:13:50.360 aren't at the top
00:13:51.920 of the list
00:13:52.320 on a daily basis.
00:13:53.400 That's the natural
00:13:54.180 life cycle.
00:13:56.040 You're not expecting
00:13:57.040 it to suddenly end,
00:13:58.300 not in your 50s.
00:14:00.840 I know my sister
00:14:01.900 would have wanted me
00:14:02.640 to have a happy life,
00:14:04.100 to thrive,
00:14:05.520 to laugh at myself.
00:14:07.800 She would have wanted
00:14:08.720 you to know
00:14:09.140 about the time
00:14:09.620 I tried to host
00:14:10.320 Thanksgiving dinner
00:14:11.100 and didn't take
00:14:11.640 the turkey out of the freezer
00:14:12.680 until 10 a.m.
00:14:13.520 the day of
00:14:14.100 we had to have
00:14:15.420 rotisserie chicken.
00:14:16.240 She would have
00:14:18.480 wanted you to laugh
00:14:19.440 if I or anyone else
00:14:21.180 for that matter
00:14:21.660 trips in front of you.
00:14:23.740 She might have
00:14:24.440 pressed your bruise
00:14:25.240 and says,
00:14:25.660 does it hurt
00:14:26.040 when I do this?
00:14:28.560 She definitely
00:14:29.380 would not have
00:14:30.060 wanted me
00:14:30.580 sitting around
00:14:31.320 feeling sad.
00:14:33.560 I told my husband
00:14:34.520 Doug at her funeral
00:14:35.760 as the sad music played,
00:14:37.140 I don't want this
00:14:37.960 at my funeral.
00:14:39.200 I want Tone Loke
00:14:40.200 or MC Hammer.
00:14:42.300 Seriously,
00:14:42.800 he said.
00:14:44.100 Seriously,
00:14:44.940 yes.
00:14:46.580 When I remember
00:14:47.440 my sister,
00:14:48.120 I will play
00:14:48.800 Billy Idol.
00:14:50.280 I will play
00:14:51.060 silly games.
00:14:52.420 I will make
00:14:53.040 doughy
00:14:54.020 Christmas ornaments.
00:14:56.180 I will love on
00:14:57.420 but also rip on
00:14:58.460 my mother
00:14:59.000 and her purple hair.
00:15:00.680 I will help
00:15:01.480 my sister's children
00:15:02.360 and I will adore
00:15:04.000 my own.
00:15:05.640 And I will keep
00:15:06.380 reminding people,
00:15:07.420 including myself,
00:15:09.100 that life is too short.
00:15:11.540 This whole thing
00:15:12.440 is fleeting.
00:15:14.780 Don't wait
00:15:15.520 until tomorrow
00:15:16.220 to reach out
00:15:16.880 to your loved ones.
00:15:19.180 Make time
00:15:19.640 for the visits.
00:15:21.180 You never know
00:15:21.760 if it could be
00:15:22.220 the last.
00:15:25.140 Suzanne never
00:15:25.900 got to take
00:15:26.400 that victory lap
00:15:27.180 with all of you
00:15:27.880 to tell you
00:15:29.340 her story
00:15:29.980 of great struggle
00:15:31.240 and triumph,
00:15:32.420 of a life
00:15:33.340 not adorned
00:15:34.800 with material riches
00:15:35.800 but filled
00:15:36.820 with emotional treasure,
00:15:38.480 of a sisterhood
00:15:40.080 in which roles
00:15:41.240 evolved over time,
00:15:42.440 but one
00:15:43.300 in which
00:15:43.620 one thing
00:15:44.180 remained
00:15:44.880 constant.
00:15:46.720 Love
00:15:47.120 was always
00:15:47.820 present.
00:15:49.620 She didn't
00:15:50.320 get to tell you
00:15:51.000 any of that.
00:15:53.460 I hope
00:15:54.060 you feel it
00:15:54.540 anyway.
00:15:56.380 We'll be right
00:15:57.040 back.
00:15:57.280 Oh my God,
00:16:02.900 I don't know
00:16:03.280 about you,
00:16:03.700 but I'm really
00:16:04.080 glad we had
00:16:04.520 a commercial
00:16:04.840 break there.
00:16:05.820 I'm really glad
00:16:06.480 we had a commercial
00:16:06.940 break.
00:16:09.060 Now I want to
00:16:09.660 get to the news.
00:16:10.360 Okay,
00:16:10.560 the cleanup effort
00:16:11.240 is now well
00:16:12.180 underway.
00:16:13.140 Has President Biden,
00:16:14.180 Vice President
00:16:14.620 Harris,
00:16:15.020 and former
00:16:15.620 President Obama
00:16:16.660 all plan
00:16:17.980 on making
00:16:18.620 campaign stops
00:16:19.500 in Pennsylvania,
00:16:21.040 trying to undo
00:16:21.840 the damage
00:16:22.580 from John Fetterman's
00:16:23.900 debate performance
00:16:24.680 the other night.
00:16:25.860 We have yet to
00:16:26.820 see updated
00:16:27.460 reputable polling
00:16:28.480 in that key
00:16:29.280 Senate race,
00:16:29.920 and it's a big
00:16:30.400 one,
00:16:30.720 but even before
00:16:31.580 the debate,
00:16:32.180 the polls were
00:16:32.800 tightening,
00:16:33.760 showing Fetterman
00:16:34.360 up by just
00:16:35.160 1.3% in the
00:16:37.040 real clear
00:16:37.540 average of all
00:16:39.340 polls,
00:16:39.800 real clear
00:16:40.080 politics average
00:16:40.960 over Dr.
00:16:42.400 Oz.
00:16:43.380 Well,
00:16:43.620 my guest today
00:16:44.220 very well could
00:16:44.980 have been running
00:16:45.700 against John
00:16:46.860 Fetterman.
00:16:47.620 He was the
00:16:48.200 frontrunner for
00:16:48.880 the Republicans
00:16:49.500 until personal
00:16:50.780 issues forced him
00:16:51.680 to withdraw
00:16:52.180 from the race.
00:16:53.960 Today,
00:16:54.360 he is here to
00:16:54.940 publicly discuss
00:16:55.780 all of that
00:16:56.300 for the very
00:16:56.880 first time.
00:16:58.740 Sean Parnell
00:16:59.240 is a former
00:16:59.900 Republican Senate
00:17:00.880 candidate in
00:17:01.440 Pennsylvania,
00:17:02.560 a decorated
00:17:03.100 combat veteran,
00:17:04.560 and best-selling
00:17:05.160 author.
00:17:06.540 Sean,
00:17:06.780 welcome back
00:17:07.180 to the show.
00:17:08.160 Hey,
00:17:08.480 Megan,
00:17:09.000 thank you so
00:17:09.620 much for having
00:17:10.320 me.
00:17:10.640 It is,
00:17:11.340 it's great
00:17:12.200 to be back.
00:17:13.600 It's great
00:17:13.920 to see you.
00:17:14.560 You look great,
00:17:15.480 and I've been
00:17:16.100 following your story
00:17:16.980 and sending you
00:17:18.000 much support
00:17:18.820 along the way.
00:17:19.500 I know it's
00:17:19.720 been a rough,
00:17:20.480 rough year.
00:17:21.320 I think you
00:17:21.640 were last
00:17:21.940 on August
00:17:22.660 of 2021,
00:17:25.620 and it was
00:17:27.500 an exciting
00:17:27.940 time.
00:17:28.540 You had just
00:17:29.020 announced,
00:17:29.820 and you were
00:17:30.280 looking really
00:17:30.840 good for that
00:17:31.420 race,
00:17:31.840 and it's just
00:17:32.280 like you wonder
00:17:33.400 what life would
00:17:34.080 be like right
00:17:34.620 now if it
00:17:35.580 were Parnell
00:17:36.520 versus Fetterman
00:17:37.500 instead of Oz
00:17:38.640 versus Fetterman,
00:17:39.780 you know?
00:17:41.000 Yeah,
00:17:41.460 yeah,
00:17:41.820 I do.
00:17:42.240 I mean,
00:17:42.540 I'm not going
00:17:44.280 to lie to you.
00:17:44.960 Watching from
00:17:45.580 the sidelines
00:17:46.820 is tough,
00:17:47.780 but I don't
00:17:49.160 regret the
00:17:49.620 decision at
00:17:50.120 all.
00:17:50.540 I knew that
00:17:53.000 my kids
00:17:54.080 needed me
00:17:55.120 more than
00:17:56.200 at any other
00:17:56.780 time in their
00:17:57.220 life in that
00:17:57.920 moment,
00:17:58.260 and I needed
00:17:58.600 to be there
00:17:59.040 for them.
00:18:00.180 And Melanie
00:18:02.180 and I,
00:18:02.640 like my future
00:18:03.140 wife,
00:18:03.660 we're working
00:18:04.160 hard to blend
00:18:04.900 our families,
00:18:05.760 and that is
00:18:06.720 no small
00:18:07.720 challenge,
00:18:08.240 but she's got
00:18:08.780 amazing little
00:18:09.620 girls of her own.
00:18:10.860 They're not my
00:18:11.140 biological kids,
00:18:12.120 but I love them
00:18:12.600 like they're my
00:18:13.100 daughters.
00:18:13.440 They had
00:18:15.440 just lost
00:18:15.820 their dad
00:18:16.240 in the middle
00:18:16.600 of that
00:18:16.900 custody trial
00:18:17.580 as well.
00:18:18.160 He passed
00:18:18.620 away from
00:18:19.000 COVID,
00:18:19.780 and I knew
00:18:20.200 that they
00:18:20.480 were going
00:18:20.720 to need
00:18:20.940 me as
00:18:21.240 well,
00:18:21.960 and the
00:18:23.140 Senate race
00:18:23.540 could wait.
00:18:24.620 And so
00:18:25.060 I've been
00:18:26.500 focused on my
00:18:27.060 family for the
00:18:27.580 last year,
00:18:28.680 and again,
00:18:29.640 although it's
00:18:30.020 hard to watch
00:18:30.480 from the
00:18:30.740 sidelines,
00:18:31.520 I don't
00:18:31.740 regret it
00:18:32.140 at all.
00:18:32.480 There were
00:18:34.300 some very
00:18:35.160 unfortunate
00:18:35.600 allegations made
00:18:36.540 between your
00:18:37.400 ex-wife and
00:18:38.340 you and this
00:18:38.860 whole thing,
00:18:39.360 and we'll get
00:18:39.680 to all that
00:18:40.280 because that
00:18:40.540 was a quote
00:18:41.740 scandal,
00:18:42.600 and just
00:18:43.780 things turned
00:18:44.280 very ugly,
00:18:45.120 so we'll talk
00:18:45.520 about that in
00:18:45.940 a minute,
00:18:46.220 but let's just
00:18:46.660 start with the
00:18:47.420 news because
00:18:47.880 Pennsylvania is
00:18:48.840 crazy.
00:18:49.960 It's the most
00:18:50.280 interesting state
00:18:50.960 in the nation
00:18:51.400 right now.
00:18:52.180 What's happening
00:18:52.860 with these guys?
00:18:53.500 I assume you
00:18:54.160 watched the
00:18:54.580 debate the
00:18:55.040 other night.
00:18:55.520 What did
00:18:55.760 you think?
00:18:57.140 Oh,
00:18:57.680 I couldn't
00:18:59.100 believe it.
00:18:59.980 Hello,
00:19:00.240 everybody.
00:19:00.760 Good night.
00:19:01.420 From that
00:19:02.920 moment on,
00:19:03.780 I mean,
00:19:03.980 if it were a
00:19:04.560 boxing match,
00:19:05.440 they would have
00:19:05.800 thrown in the
00:19:06.220 towel after the
00:19:06.860 first round.
00:19:07.560 I couldn't
00:19:08.040 believe it,
00:19:08.600 and a couple
00:19:09.120 things on this.
00:19:10.860 John Fetterman's
00:19:11.660 health was a
00:19:13.060 lot worse
00:19:14.260 than I thought,
00:19:15.660 and I live in
00:19:16.260 the state,
00:19:16.720 and I'm wired
00:19:17.180 into the
00:19:18.020 political apparatus
00:19:19.440 here,
00:19:20.260 and boy,
00:19:21.780 what an
00:19:22.260 indictment on
00:19:22.760 the media
00:19:23.200 trying to
00:19:24.340 cover for him
00:19:25.400 since the
00:19:26.240 primary.
00:19:27.080 Absolutely
00:19:27.640 unbelievable.
00:19:29.700 It's also,
00:19:30.440 I think,
00:19:30.600 an indictment
00:19:31.440 on the
00:19:31.720 Pennsylvania
00:19:32.100 Democrat
00:19:32.560 Party,
00:19:33.340 and maybe
00:19:33.940 even on
00:19:34.640 John Fetterman
00:19:35.260 himself and
00:19:35.860 his family.
00:19:36.540 I don't
00:19:37.220 understand how
00:19:39.120 they could put
00:19:41.340 him through that
00:19:42.520 in good conscience,
00:19:43.600 although at the
00:19:44.400 end of the day,
00:19:44.900 it's his choice.
00:19:46.060 And so it was
00:19:48.660 probably one of the
00:19:49.460 worst debate
00:19:49.960 performances that
00:19:51.100 I've ever seen.
00:19:52.460 And when you
00:19:53.500 watch the post-debate
00:19:55.100 spin, that was
00:19:56.820 also extremely
00:19:58.600 interesting to
00:19:59.820 me.
00:20:00.440 You have all
00:20:00.880 these blue
00:20:01.160 checks on
00:20:01.700 Twitter talking
00:20:02.640 about the
00:20:03.600 debate as if
00:20:04.440 nothing were
00:20:05.040 wrong.
00:20:05.380 If you read
00:20:05.860 the ABC
00:20:06.340 coverage of
00:20:06.880 the debate,
00:20:07.420 you would
00:20:07.880 think that
00:20:08.320 there were
00:20:08.600 no issues
00:20:09.100 with John
00:20:09.600 Fetterman's
00:20:10.540 cognitive state.
00:20:11.700 If you read
00:20:12.200 Reuters, you'd
00:20:12.980 think there's
00:20:13.300 no issues
00:20:13.820 with John
00:20:14.240 Fetterman's
00:20:14.740 cognitive state.
00:20:15.980 They are
00:20:16.560 still totally
00:20:17.540 covering for
00:20:18.280 him, even
00:20:18.900 now.
00:20:19.820 And you
00:20:21.080 look at,
00:20:21.760 you watch how
00:20:22.560 his staff
00:20:23.180 reacted.
00:20:24.580 It's like
00:20:25.100 their entire
00:20:25.960 response to
00:20:27.000 the debate
00:20:27.560 was a
00:20:28.240 Chumbawamba
00:20:28.800 song.
00:20:29.500 You know,
00:20:29.900 John Fetterman
00:20:30.520 gets knocked
00:20:31.060 down, but
00:20:31.640 he gets up
00:20:32.200 again, but
00:20:32.920 nobody's going
00:20:33.500 to keep
00:20:33.780 John Fetterman
00:20:34.400 down.
00:20:35.180 And then
00:20:35.540 the media
00:20:36.440 regurgitated
00:20:37.660 that over
00:20:38.360 and over
00:20:38.920 and over
00:20:39.340 again.
00:20:39.700 It was an
00:20:40.080 absolute
00:20:40.540 disaster in
00:20:41.300 every way.
00:20:42.200 And you
00:20:43.400 are right.
00:20:44.020 Pennsylvania
00:20:44.340 is a very,
00:20:45.740 very difficult
00:20:46.440 state to
00:20:47.600 read.
00:20:48.900 It's a state
00:20:49.560 that closes
00:20:50.480 late and
00:20:51.200 closes fast.
00:20:52.220 Democrats
00:20:53.760 have a
00:20:54.500 520-plus
00:20:55.700 thousand-person
00:20:56.700 voter registration
00:20:57.500 advantage.
00:20:58.120 There are
00:20:58.280 1.2 million
00:20:59.040 independents.
00:21:00.580 Republicans
00:21:01.040 simply cannot
00:21:02.020 win in this
00:21:02.920 state without
00:21:03.780 some crossover
00:21:04.680 support.
00:21:05.420 But the
00:21:05.900 independents who
00:21:06.580 are still on
00:21:07.020 the fence,
00:21:07.400 and I think
00:21:07.720 a lot of
00:21:08.040 those Democrats
00:21:08.900 who have
00:21:10.740 been voting
00:21:11.560 Republicans since
00:21:12.480 President Trump
00:21:13.160 brought them
00:21:13.640 into the
00:21:14.000 fold, I
00:21:15.540 think their
00:21:15.880 minds are
00:21:16.240 made up after
00:21:17.580 that debate.
00:21:18.580 I think odds
00:21:19.140 runs away.
00:21:19.620 It's going to
00:21:19.900 be close.
00:21:20.360 Obviously,
00:21:20.660 it's Pennsylvania.
00:21:21.140 But I think
00:21:21.840 Oz is going
00:21:22.680 to win this
00:21:23.120 thing.
00:21:24.160 Wow.
00:21:24.660 What do you
00:21:25.820 make of the
00:21:26.500 early voting,
00:21:27.360 though?
00:21:27.620 Because there
00:21:28.840 was a reason
00:21:29.520 that they
00:21:30.500 didn't agree
00:21:31.240 to do this
00:21:31.720 debate until
00:21:32.260 October 25th.
00:21:34.020 Early voting
00:21:34.540 has been
00:21:34.840 underway in
00:21:35.440 Pennsylvania for
00:21:36.160 weeks now.
00:21:37.360 And I heard
00:21:37.760 a report
00:21:38.320 saying that
00:21:40.060 some 700,000
00:21:41.860 ballots had
00:21:42.540 been cast
00:21:43.140 already,
00:21:43.820 500,000 of
00:21:44.920 which have
00:21:45.340 come in from
00:21:45.900 registered
00:21:46.380 Dems, who
00:21:48.040 they believe
00:21:48.620 would be
00:21:49.080 Democratic votes,
00:21:50.020 that there's a
00:21:50.760 massive advantage
00:21:51.740 for Fetterman
00:21:52.760 in the early
00:21:53.800 vote.
00:21:54.560 And that's
00:21:55.380 by design.
00:21:56.060 To me,
00:21:56.580 this feels
00:21:57.140 like cheating
00:21:58.840 because they
00:21:59.700 knew something
00:22:00.320 about him
00:22:00.980 that they
00:22:01.760 kept secret.
00:22:03.460 And last two
00:22:05.220 nights ago was
00:22:05.880 the big reveal.
00:22:07.000 And the big
00:22:07.380 reveal is he
00:22:08.760 can't put two
00:22:09.520 words together.
00:22:10.320 He cannot put
00:22:10.880 two sentences
00:22:11.420 together without
00:22:12.520 fudging his
00:22:13.080 words,
00:22:14.060 misunderstanding,
00:22:15.460 merging his
00:22:16.400 thoughts.
00:22:17.220 Like you said,
00:22:18.080 he began the
00:22:18.800 debate with a
00:22:19.460 good night,
00:22:19.820 everyone.
00:22:20.460 I mean,
00:22:21.200 something's
00:22:22.340 gone wrong
00:22:23.000 cognitively and
00:22:25.040 they hid it so
00:22:26.240 they can bank
00:22:26.760 those votes.
00:22:28.140 Yeah,
00:22:28.380 absolutely.
00:22:29.220 And there's no
00:22:29.900 question about it
00:22:30.860 that that John
00:22:32.020 Fetterman and the
00:22:33.120 entire Pennsylvania
00:22:34.240 Democrat Party
00:22:34.980 wanted a debate
00:22:36.100 with Oz as late
00:22:37.780 as humanly
00:22:38.260 possible so that
00:22:39.000 they could bank
00:22:39.520 as many early
00:22:40.120 votes as possible.
00:22:41.280 In Pennsylvania,
00:22:42.340 I think people
00:22:42.740 have been voting
00:22:43.220 here for the
00:22:43.740 better part of a
00:22:44.340 month now.
00:22:44.840 And you're
00:22:45.060 right.
00:22:45.300 I think John
00:22:46.040 Fetterman has
00:22:46.520 got 75 plus
00:22:47.840 percent of
00:22:48.620 those early
00:22:49.280 votes.
00:22:49.620 700,000 people
00:22:50.500 have already
00:22:50.880 voted already.
00:22:51.640 And to me,
00:22:52.900 this sort of
00:22:54.340 is emblematic
00:22:55.400 of the problem
00:22:56.340 with early
00:22:57.080 voting.
00:22:57.700 I wonder how
00:22:58.700 many of the
00:22:59.520 400,000 plus
00:23:00.940 people who
00:23:01.900 early voted
00:23:03.120 for Fetterman
00:23:03.820 maybe want to
00:23:04.440 mulligan on
00:23:04.860 that vote.
00:23:05.680 You know,
00:23:06.060 and, you
00:23:08.120 know,
00:23:08.300 that's why I'm
00:23:09.900 in favor of
00:23:10.920 voting on
00:23:11.480 election day
00:23:12.380 so that people
00:23:13.900 have all the
00:23:14.400 information that
00:23:15.200 all the
00:23:16.660 current
00:23:17.060 information that
00:23:17.840 they need to
00:23:18.400 cast their
00:23:18.800 ballot.
00:23:19.680 And, you
00:23:20.800 know, part
00:23:23.020 of me feels
00:23:23.440 bad for John
00:23:24.400 Fetterman, you
00:23:25.260 know, but part
00:23:26.220 of me doesn't.
00:23:27.300 You know, he
00:23:27.660 chose this, he
00:23:29.360 chose to run
00:23:30.000 with it, the
00:23:30.420 media covered
00:23:31.080 for him, and
00:23:31.700 now the
00:23:32.980 people of this
00:23:33.660 state are the
00:23:35.180 ones that could
00:23:36.080 potentially be
00:23:36.720 left with a
00:23:37.620 senator who
00:23:38.320 can't string
00:23:39.960 together two
00:23:40.580 words, but
00:23:41.620 whose votes
00:23:42.360 will be cast
00:23:43.300 on behalf of
00:23:44.300 not only the
00:23:44.820 people of this
00:23:45.340 commonwealth, but
00:23:46.000 millions and
00:23:46.900 millions of
00:23:47.400 people all
00:23:48.400 across this
00:23:48.960 country.
00:23:49.560 And John
00:23:50.240 Fetterman has
00:23:50.880 been open about
00:23:52.180 his positions on
00:23:53.460 being the 51st
00:23:54.760 vote to do away
00:23:55.540 with the
00:23:55.820 filibuster, packing
00:23:56.980 the Supreme
00:23:57.540 Court.
00:23:58.320 He's basically
00:23:59.240 Bernie Sanders
00:24:00.580 through and
00:24:01.080 through, although
00:24:01.520 somehow more
00:24:02.200 extreme.
00:24:03.500 And so I
00:24:05.320 think, and
00:24:05.980 frankly, Megan,
00:24:07.020 I think the
00:24:07.660 people of
00:24:08.080 Pennsylvania are
00:24:08.740 finally starting
00:24:09.500 to see that.
00:24:11.040 And again,
00:24:11.900 after that
00:24:12.460 debate performance,
00:24:13.580 I really do
00:24:15.260 think that this
00:24:16.140 race is going
00:24:16.920 to break
00:24:17.440 Oz's way.
00:24:18.840 I just do.
00:24:20.540 All right.
00:24:20.700 So let's just
00:24:21.420 take a look back
00:24:22.260 because you talk
00:24:22.960 about the media
00:24:23.540 and how they've
00:24:24.040 been covering
00:24:24.440 for him.
00:24:25.260 Maybe they'll
00:24:26.040 thrill to have
00:24:27.080 all those votes
00:24:28.220 banked and to
00:24:29.340 have it gone
00:24:29.760 this way.
00:24:30.140 They're totally,
00:24:30.880 I'm sorry, in
00:24:31.700 on it.
00:24:32.120 I know that
00:24:32.460 sounds like
00:24:33.160 a weird conspiracy,
00:24:33.700 but you have
00:24:34.800 them working
00:24:35.820 together without
00:24:36.460 it being an
00:24:36.980 open agreement.
00:24:38.700 And that's
00:24:39.000 what's been
00:24:39.380 happening between
00:24:39.980 the Fetterman
00:24:40.440 campaign and
00:24:41.100 the press.
00:24:41.560 I take you
00:24:43.420 back to the
00:24:43.980 interview that
00:24:45.060 was done by
00:24:45.480 the NBC
00:24:46.000 reporter Dasha
00:24:46.900 Burns.
00:24:47.680 She did the
00:24:48.340 interview and
00:24:48.980 it was clear
00:24:49.500 that he had
00:24:50.740 to use the
00:24:51.360 same closed
00:24:52.120 captioning system.
00:24:53.500 And then she
00:24:53.920 added, as any
00:24:56.080 good reporter
00:24:56.820 would do.
00:24:57.460 I mean, let me
00:24:57.860 tell you, when I
00:24:58.240 got back from
00:24:58.680 interviewing Putin
00:24:59.520 a couple of
00:25:00.040 different times,
00:25:00.660 it wasn't all
00:25:01.560 about the
00:25:01.980 exchange with
00:25:02.740 Vladimir Putin.
00:25:03.660 I would also
00:25:04.280 explain to the
00:25:05.140 audience this is
00:25:05.720 what it was
00:25:06.080 like.
00:25:06.440 This is what
00:25:06.860 he was like.
00:25:07.600 That's absolutely
00:25:08.900 part of
00:25:09.960 reporting.
00:25:10.880 So Dasha
00:25:11.940 Burns, with
00:25:12.480 the story with
00:25:13.360 John Fetterman,
00:25:14.040 is not that
00:25:14.540 he's in the
00:25:15.220 Kremlin.
00:25:15.940 It's that he
00:25:17.320 just had a
00:25:18.040 massive stroke
00:25:18.640 and we're all
00:25:19.160 wondering how
00:25:19.860 he's doing.
00:25:21.020 And he's given
00:25:22.140 no face-to-face
00:25:23.220 interviews, no
00:25:23.820 on-camera
00:25:24.540 interviews, so
00:25:25.300 she gets one,
00:25:26.800 responsibly comes
00:25:27.820 out to try to
00:25:28.440 tell us what
00:25:29.020 she saw.
00:25:29.820 I think we
00:25:30.240 have the
00:25:30.540 soundbite.
00:25:31.120 Let's listen
00:25:31.500 to it.
00:25:32.880 The screen
00:25:33.780 that he was
00:25:34.280 looking at
00:25:34.900 was transcribing
00:25:36.280 my questions so
00:25:37.300 he could read
00:25:38.060 them in real
00:25:39.440 time.
00:25:40.060 Because of
00:25:40.880 that auditory
00:25:41.500 processing issue,
00:25:42.520 he has a hard
00:25:42.980 time understanding
00:25:43.880 what people are
00:25:44.900 saying.
00:25:45.540 Once he can
00:25:45.940 read it,
00:25:46.420 though, he
00:25:46.820 can understand.
00:25:48.840 But I'll say
00:25:49.340 even those
00:25:50.120 small moments,
00:25:51.060 as you know,
00:25:51.520 Peter, behind
00:25:52.160 the scenes,
00:25:52.740 when you're
00:25:53.120 having some
00:25:53.800 of that small
00:25:54.300 talk before an
00:25:55.200 interview, during
00:25:56.040 some of those
00:25:56.540 conversations before
00:25:58.220 the closed
00:25:59.100 captioning was
00:25:59.840 rolling, it
00:26:00.380 wasn't clear that
00:26:01.160 he could
00:26:01.520 understand what
00:26:02.940 we were saying.
00:26:03.680 Well, she got
00:26:05.660 pilloried for
00:26:06.240 this, pilloried.
00:26:07.560 I mean, she
00:26:08.200 was accused of
00:26:09.000 ableism.
00:26:10.760 This is not
00:26:11.660 ableism.
00:26:12.520 This is not
00:26:12.860 mocking someone
00:26:13.600 for their
00:26:14.100 inborn disability.
00:26:15.520 This is trying to
00:26:16.180 figure out whether
00:26:16.640 someone is competent
00:26:17.500 to hold a U.S.
00:26:18.500 Senate seat.
00:26:19.100 That is an
00:26:19.520 entirely different
00:26:20.240 matter.
00:26:21.420 And I'll just
00:26:22.000 give you a couple
00:26:22.400 of examples.
00:26:23.220 Okay, Rebecca
00:26:23.700 Traster of New York
00:26:24.460 Magazine and the
00:26:25.060 Cut, she tweeted
00:26:25.840 she had recently
00:26:26.480 interviewed Fetterman
00:26:27.180 and found his
00:26:27.660 comprehension is,
00:26:28.460 quote, not at
00:26:29.860 all impaired.
00:26:31.320 He understands
00:26:32.120 everything.
00:26:32.700 It's just that he
00:26:33.260 reads it, which
00:26:34.760 requires extra
00:26:36.020 acuity, I would
00:26:37.400 argue, and
00:26:38.420 responds in real
00:26:39.220 time.
00:26:40.460 Podcaster Kara
00:26:41.400 Swisher, sorry
00:26:42.800 to say, but I
00:26:43.960 talked to John
00:26:44.660 Fetterman for over
00:26:45.420 an hour without
00:26:46.240 stop or any
00:26:47.440 aids, and this
00:26:48.520 is just nonsense.
00:26:51.160 Maybe this
00:26:51.540 reporter is just
00:26:52.400 bad at small
00:26:53.240 talk.
00:26:54.300 Molly Jong Fast,
00:26:55.340 another journalist
00:26:55.880 and podcast host,
00:26:56.600 said she too
00:26:57.100 recently interviewed
00:26:57.880 Fetterman.
00:26:58.680 He understood
00:26:59.260 everything I was
00:27:00.580 saying, and he
00:27:01.740 was funny.
00:27:02.900 And then when
00:27:03.280 there was any
00:27:03.720 pushback, saying,
00:27:06.000 you know, maybe
00:27:06.320 this is an
00:27:07.120 important comment
00:27:08.020 and Pennsylvanians
00:27:09.140 might care, you
00:27:10.660 get things like
00:27:11.200 this from Robert
00:27:11.960 Sherham, director
00:27:12.780 of University of
00:27:13.520 Southern California
00:27:14.100 Center for the
00:27:14.800 Political Future.
00:27:15.820 I thought or
00:27:16.720 hoped we had
00:27:17.300 passed this kind
00:27:18.260 of prejudice to
00:27:20.240 just even ask,
00:27:21.140 all right?
00:27:21.340 And Stephen
00:27:21.640 Orley, reporter
00:27:22.300 for Politico,
00:27:22.960 suggesting this
00:27:24.040 feels a hell of a
00:27:24.800 lot like ableism.
00:27:26.560 On and on it
00:27:27.380 goes.
00:27:28.420 OK, then we
00:27:29.880 see him come out
00:27:30.880 the other night.
00:27:31.580 OK, he was
00:27:32.260 fine.
00:27:32.960 He was fine.
00:27:34.340 There's something
00:27:34.720 wrong with your
00:27:35.320 small talk, you
00:27:36.480 moron.
00:27:37.360 Here's what we
00:27:38.020 saw.
00:27:38.460 OK, watch.
00:27:39.240 Here's what we
00:27:39.820 saw.
00:27:40.340 This is soundbite
00:27:41.700 one.
00:27:43.580 Hi.
00:27:44.060 Good night,
00:27:44.440 everybody.
00:27:45.320 You know, he has
00:27:45.920 never met an air
00:27:47.000 or an oil company
00:27:48.940 that he doesn't
00:27:49.560 swipe right about.
00:27:50.700 It's about
00:27:51.300 supporting and
00:27:52.300 helping, you know,
00:27:53.300 young earners,
00:27:55.180 excuse me, young
00:27:55.900 young, young,
00:27:57.980 young, you know,
00:28:00.200 students to give
00:28:01.540 them a break.
00:28:02.220 I believe that
00:28:03.220 that supporting
00:28:04.880 I do support
00:28:07.180 fracking and
00:28:08.600 I don't I
00:28:11.300 don't.
00:28:11.680 I support
00:28:13.280 fracking and
00:28:14.120 I stand and
00:28:14.880 I do support
00:28:15.540 fracking.
00:28:16.020 It's just the
00:28:16.560 same way that
00:28:17.320 university for
00:28:18.420 degrees as well
00:28:19.360 too.
00:28:19.560 But going to
00:28:20.120 those kind of
00:28:20.560 vocational
00:28:20.980 schools, able
00:28:22.220 to create a
00:28:22.740 career to
00:28:23.280 weigh, to
00:28:24.520 excuse me, to
00:28:25.440 weigh and
00:28:26.280 reach a lot of
00:28:27.500 a high salary
00:28:28.700 and again
00:28:29.340 supporting to
00:28:30.240 reduce those
00:28:30.700 costs are
00:28:31.180 critical too.
00:28:31.720 I want to
00:28:32.320 look into
00:28:33.440 the face
00:28:34.140 of every
00:28:35.000 woman in
00:28:36.080 Pennsylvania.
00:28:36.580 I believe if
00:28:38.300 my doctor
00:28:39.060 believes that
00:28:40.220 I'm fit to
00:28:40.920 serve and
00:28:42.020 and that's
00:28:42.720 what I believe
00:28:43.360 is appropriate,
00:28:44.360 they all believe
00:28:45.040 that I'm ready
00:28:45.520 to be served.
00:28:46.180 We can't be
00:28:46.760 held, you
00:28:47.640 know, ransom
00:28:49.340 to somebody
00:28:49.960 like Russia.
00:28:50.780 I made the
00:28:51.200 opportunity to
00:28:52.020 defend our
00:28:52.580 community as
00:28:53.380 the chief law
00:28:54.120 enforcement officer
00:28:54.920 there.
00:28:55.600 Everybody in
00:28:56.180 Braddock, an
00:28:56.980 overwhelming majority
00:28:58.460 community of
00:28:59.820 black
00:29:00.520 community and
00:29:02.440 I've always
00:29:02.860 believed that
00:29:03.360 the choice
00:29:03.740 believes women
00:29:05.040 and their
00:29:05.560 doctors and
00:29:06.720 again, it's
00:29:07.500 the Oz
00:29:07.900 rule.
00:29:08.600 He's on TV
00:29:09.580 and he's
00:29:09.960 lying.
00:29:10.540 I never
00:29:10.880 supported any
00:29:13.000 of that thing.
00:29:13.620 His family's
00:29:14.200 company was
00:29:15.140 levied the
00:29:16.840 largest fine
00:29:17.840 for ingratian
00:29:19.480 hiring of
00:29:20.960 immigrant
00:29:22.460 illegals.
00:29:24.880 Not at all
00:29:25.880 impaired.
00:29:26.540 These reporters
00:29:27.200 look like
00:29:28.080 liars.
00:29:28.840 They look like
00:29:29.360 partisan ideologues
00:29:30.520 who have a
00:29:31.320 horse in
00:29:31.740 this race
00:29:32.280 who were
00:29:33.040 part of
00:29:33.620 the effort
00:29:34.460 to obscure
00:29:35.520 the truth
00:29:36.240 until it was
00:29:37.160 staring us
00:29:37.940 right in the
00:29:38.760 face two
00:29:39.260 nights ago.
00:29:41.220 No question
00:29:42.420 about it.
00:29:43.120 They're all
00:29:43.640 partisan hacks.
00:29:44.960 And just to
00:29:46.240 be direct,
00:29:46.960 I mean,
00:29:47.340 not to mention
00:29:48.460 that John
00:29:48.880 Fetterman is
00:29:50.220 the sitting
00:29:50.860 lieutenant
00:29:51.320 governor.
00:29:51.980 He has a
00:29:52.580 constitutional
00:29:53.240 obligation to
00:29:54.300 let the people
00:29:55.080 of the
00:29:55.360 Commonwealth know
00:29:56.200 the condition
00:29:56.840 of his health.
00:29:57.600 when he had
00:29:58.500 the stroke
00:29:58.940 just prior to
00:30:01.320 the primary,
00:30:02.180 they covered
00:30:02.720 it up.
00:30:03.200 They said it
00:30:03.600 was just a
00:30:04.080 minor hiccup
00:30:06.340 in his health.
00:30:07.960 The media
00:30:08.380 then helped
00:30:09.020 him cover
00:30:09.520 that up.
00:30:10.380 And when you
00:30:10.600 look at the
00:30:12.560 juxtaposition
00:30:13.400 between the
00:30:15.300 way that
00:30:15.780 John Fetterman
00:30:16.500 was treated
00:30:17.740 back then
00:30:18.300 and the way
00:30:18.620 that I was
00:30:19.060 treated,
00:30:19.440 I had
00:30:19.760 multi-million
00:30:20.680 dollar media
00:30:21.640 companies
00:30:22.560 suing to
00:30:23.720 sit in on
00:30:24.640 my custody
00:30:25.380 trial,
00:30:25.780 suing me
00:30:26.280 to sit
00:30:26.600 on my
00:30:26.840 custody
00:30:27.080 trial as
00:30:27.540 a private
00:30:28.340 citizen.
00:30:29.160 Yet they
00:30:29.600 can't even
00:30:30.260 ask basic
00:30:31.560 questions about
00:30:32.800 a sitting
00:30:33.220 lieutenant
00:30:33.560 governor's
00:30:34.080 health that
00:30:35.080 in the
00:30:37.440 most important
00:30:38.860 Senate race
00:30:39.820 in the
00:30:40.320 country.
00:30:41.240 And I think
00:30:41.540 there's no
00:30:42.020 question that
00:30:42.840 all of these
00:30:43.580 reporters who
00:30:44.380 then went
00:30:45.020 after Dasha,
00:30:46.320 right,
00:30:46.560 that's her
00:30:46.880 name,
00:30:47.380 they owe
00:30:48.580 her an
00:30:48.920 apology,
00:30:49.680 no question
00:30:50.280 about it,
00:30:51.300 and with
00:30:52.480 regards to
00:30:53.260 the Senate
00:30:53.640 race.
00:30:54.040 And the
00:30:54.880 questions that
00:30:55.860 I think
00:30:56.200 people of
00:30:56.760 Pennsylvania
00:30:57.040 need to
00:30:57.440 ask right
00:30:57.940 now after
00:30:58.420 having watched
00:30:59.240 that debate
00:31:00.240 was if
00:31:02.520 John Fetterman
00:31:03.320 were in the
00:31:03.960 NFL's concussion
00:31:04.900 protocol,
00:31:05.580 would you let
00:31:05.960 him play on
00:31:06.400 Sunday?
00:31:07.080 I think the
00:31:07.460 answer is no.
00:31:08.580 Would you
00:31:09.180 let John
00:31:09.840 Fetterman drive
00:31:11.020 your children to
00:31:11.840 school?
00:31:12.720 I think the
00:31:13.200 answer to that
00:31:13.680 question is no.
00:31:14.660 Would you let
00:31:15.060 John Fetterman
00:31:15.900 administer his
00:31:16.840 own medication?
00:31:18.060 I think the
00:31:18.680 answer to that
00:31:19.240 question is no.
00:31:20.120 So why then
00:31:21.260 would we vote
00:31:22.880 to send him
00:31:23.680 to the
00:31:24.100 Senate,
00:31:24.780 which by
00:31:25.400 the way,
00:31:26.500 I don't know
00:31:26.860 if you've
00:31:27.180 talked to
00:31:27.640 senators,
00:31:28.100 but they
00:31:28.340 have a
00:31:28.660 fairly
00:31:28.960 arduous
00:31:29.560 schedule down
00:31:30.340 there.
00:31:30.600 It's a
00:31:30.780 six-year
00:31:31.180 term.
00:31:31.700 There are
00:31:31.960 constant
00:31:32.420 debates.
00:31:33.400 How is
00:31:33.760 he expected
00:31:34.520 to serve
00:31:35.760 in the
00:31:36.120 United States
00:31:36.740 Senate
00:31:37.140 for six
00:31:38.340 years?
00:31:39.280 And I
00:31:39.480 think the
00:31:39.800 people forget
00:31:41.800 that I too
00:31:43.060 had a brain
00:31:43.600 injury.
00:31:43.960 I fractured
00:31:44.360 my skull
00:31:44.820 in Afghanistan.
00:31:45.420 I know
00:31:46.180 how difficult
00:31:46.960 the rehab
00:31:48.140 for something
00:31:48.640 like that
00:31:49.160 can be.
00:31:49.700 The left
00:31:50.480 showed me
00:31:51.060 no quarter
00:31:52.380 when I ran
00:31:53.640 for Congress
00:31:54.220 and I ran
00:31:54.740 for Senate.
00:31:55.280 There were
00:31:55.480 no comments
00:31:56.320 about me
00:31:57.380 about ableism
00:31:58.640 back then.
00:31:59.720 So these
00:32:02.140 reporters,
00:32:02.880 they covered
00:32:03.780 for him.
00:32:04.580 And I think
00:32:05.040 they were,
00:32:06.880 I mean,
00:32:07.400 I think by
00:32:08.000 and large
00:32:08.320 Republicans
00:32:08.920 and a lot
00:32:09.460 of independents
00:32:10.040 don't trust
00:32:10.740 the legacy
00:32:11.620 media as it
00:32:12.520 is.
00:32:13.200 But this
00:32:14.520 cover-up of
00:32:15.120 John Fetterman's
00:32:15.800 health certainly
00:32:16.620 didn't help the
00:32:17.220 situation.
00:32:17.700 You know,
00:32:18.480 that's what
00:32:18.860 it's been.
00:32:19.340 It's been a
00:32:19.800 cover-up.
00:32:20.440 They have
00:32:20.940 kept him
00:32:21.360 under wraps.
00:32:22.120 The press,
00:32:23.020 with just a few
00:32:23.660 exceptions,
00:32:24.340 I tip my hat
00:32:25.040 to the
00:32:25.320 Washington Post,
00:32:26.460 did not demand
00:32:27.340 that this man
00:32:28.360 make himself
00:32:29.160 available publicly
00:32:30.100 so that we
00:32:30.980 could see
00:32:31.520 what we were
00:32:32.060 evaluating in
00:32:32.880 terms of this
00:32:33.340 race.
00:32:34.060 And he only
00:32:35.080 agreed to do
00:32:35.640 this one
00:32:36.060 debate late
00:32:36.800 in the process
00:32:37.420 under enormous
00:32:38.100 pressure.
00:32:39.060 And I'm sure
00:32:39.400 they're now
00:32:39.780 wishing that
00:32:40.340 they had not
00:32:40.980 done it.
00:32:41.720 But now that
00:32:42.240 they've done
00:32:42.560 it, it's
00:32:42.800 almost like the
00:32:43.280 issue has
00:32:43.720 shifted from
00:32:44.840 his health
00:32:45.940 or his,
00:32:47.000 you know,
00:32:47.480 positions to
00:32:49.180 his lies,
00:32:50.920 his cover-up
00:32:51.640 that he just
00:32:52.080 tried to pull.
00:32:52.580 The fast one,
00:32:53.800 he, his wife,
00:32:54.560 and his campaign
00:32:55.200 team just tried
00:32:56.340 to pull on the
00:32:57.620 people of
00:32:58.060 Pennsylvania,
00:32:58.760 not to mention
00:32:59.280 the American
00:32:59.820 people.
00:33:00.340 It's a question
00:33:01.000 of honesty
00:33:01.580 at this point.
00:33:02.900 Yeah, there's
00:33:03.340 no question
00:33:03.780 about it.
00:33:04.260 The media
00:33:04.680 have been
00:33:05.340 along with
00:33:06.760 the Fetterman
00:33:07.200 campaign for
00:33:07.880 the ride
00:33:08.220 the whole way.
00:33:09.680 And now here
00:33:10.560 we are a week
00:33:11.160 from Election
00:33:11.660 Day, 700,000
00:33:12.800 plus early
00:33:13.400 votes cast.
00:33:14.960 The race is
00:33:15.720 going to be
00:33:16.000 close in
00:33:16.380 Pennsylvania.
00:33:17.100 It's always,
00:33:17.660 it was always
00:33:18.300 going to be
00:33:18.940 close.
00:33:19.480 But like I
00:33:20.080 said, I think
00:33:20.460 Oz is going
00:33:20.920 to win.
00:33:21.620 But the fact
00:33:22.460 that it's even
00:33:23.320 close should,
00:33:25.040 it should tell
00:33:25.800 you something.
00:33:26.700 I mean, this,
00:33:27.500 this is why
00:33:28.320 the people of
00:33:29.640 this country,
00:33:30.080 well, let me
00:33:30.620 just say this.
00:33:31.500 This is why
00:33:32.360 President Trump
00:33:33.380 for a very
00:33:34.180 long time
00:33:35.120 called the media
00:33:36.400 the enemy
00:33:36.840 of the people.
00:33:38.000 This, this is
00:33:39.180 a very good
00:33:39.980 example of
00:33:40.780 exactly what
00:33:41.880 he means.
00:33:42.500 Now, are
00:33:43.460 there good
00:33:43.860 journalists out
00:33:44.420 there?
00:33:44.540 Like you
00:33:44.760 mentioned the
00:33:45.120 Washington Post
00:33:45.740 with regards
00:33:46.220 to this
00:33:46.480 Fetterman story.
00:33:47.140 Yes, I
00:33:47.640 agree with
00:33:48.360 you.
00:33:48.980 There are
00:33:49.440 good journals
00:33:49.920 out there.
00:33:50.720 There are
00:33:51.120 good media
00:33:52.120 companies out
00:33:52.720 there that do
00:33:53.300 the right
00:33:53.620 thing all the
00:33:54.360 time.
00:33:54.660 But when
00:33:55.500 President Trump
00:33:56.220 says that the
00:33:57.220 media is the
00:33:58.460 enemy of the
00:33:59.000 people, this is
00:33:59.580 exactly what he
00:34:00.300 means.
00:34:00.960 Because if they
00:34:01.480 were doing
00:34:02.060 their job and
00:34:03.080 doing it the
00:34:03.980 right way,
00:34:04.980 they would have
00:34:05.660 been asked
00:34:06.340 asking relentlessly
00:34:07.580 about John
00:34:08.680 Fetterman's
00:34:09.180 health.
00:34:09.460 And now there
00:34:09.820 was a question
00:34:10.380 during the
00:34:10.780 debate about
00:34:11.280 whether or not
00:34:11.740 he would release
00:34:12.320 his health
00:34:12.720 records.
00:34:14.320 And I don't
00:34:15.440 think we need
00:34:15.880 him to do
00:34:16.200 that now.
00:34:16.660 I think people
00:34:17.120 have all the
00:34:17.700 information that
00:34:18.280 they need to
00:34:18.780 pull that lever
00:34:19.400 in a week.
00:34:20.380 And I think a
00:34:21.660 lot of people,
00:34:22.960 I think his
00:34:23.520 performance in
00:34:24.060 that debate
00:34:24.480 is going to be
00:34:25.640 outcome
00:34:25.900 determinative.
00:34:26.640 And I think
00:34:26.940 that's why I
00:34:27.640 think this race
00:34:28.140 is going to
00:34:28.400 break Oz.
00:34:28.900 I'm going to
00:34:35.500 bring you the
00:34:37.620 latest edition of
00:34:38.520 our mailbag.
00:34:39.740 And you can
00:34:40.060 email me now at
00:34:41.220 Megan at
00:34:42.200 MeganKelley.com.
00:34:43.720 I got so many
00:34:44.740 nice messages from
00:34:45.520 you all this week.
00:34:46.200 Thank you all so
00:34:47.460 much.
00:34:48.040 And every week I'll
00:34:48.840 continue reading a
00:34:49.500 few and I'll read
00:34:51.640 them on air.
00:34:52.240 I mean a few on
00:34:53.000 air and be part of
00:34:53.800 our MK Mailbag
00:34:54.960 segment.
00:34:56.140 All right, so let's
00:34:57.200 dive right in.
00:34:58.320 Here is one that
00:34:59.920 actually jumped out
00:35:00.500 at me.
00:35:00.680 This is from Sam.
00:35:01.820 It says, requesting
00:35:02.440 guidance in not
00:35:03.900 feeling like a
00:35:04.780 victim.
00:35:05.600 Hello, Megan.
00:35:06.200 I hope all's well
00:35:06.940 with you.
00:35:07.220 I'm writing to you
00:35:07.800 to get some
00:35:08.220 pointers on how
00:35:08.820 you deal with
00:35:09.280 stressors.
00:35:10.380 I am currently a
00:35:11.020 full-time worker
00:35:11.740 and in graduate
00:35:12.640 school.
00:35:13.160 Every time something
00:35:13.780 happens, I go into
00:35:15.300 this spiral of
00:35:16.260 feeling like a
00:35:17.220 victim.
00:35:18.000 For example, if I
00:35:18.980 had parents, this
00:35:20.040 wouldn't happen.
00:35:20.860 Or if I had
00:35:21.440 millions of dollars
00:35:22.360 of money, I could
00:35:23.520 be a full-time
00:35:24.080 student, etc.
00:35:25.080 I have recently
00:35:26.100 become your number
00:35:26.780 one fan.
00:35:27.360 I admire how
00:35:27.860 you handle
00:35:28.220 stressors of
00:35:28.760 life.
00:35:29.080 Can you please
00:35:29.500 share how you
00:35:29.980 handle difficult
00:35:30.820 situations?
00:35:32.380 What advice would
00:35:33.120 you give me to
00:35:34.440 not feel like a
00:35:35.860 victim?
00:35:36.320 Thank you.
00:35:37.100 Okay, I
00:35:37.500 appreciate this,
00:35:38.560 Sam, because that
00:35:39.100 is a terrible
00:35:39.520 feeling and you
00:35:40.320 would be looking
00:35:40.780 to change it if
00:35:41.640 that were your
00:35:42.420 go-to.
00:35:43.580 And I would
00:35:43.900 say, first of
00:35:44.700 all, you have to
00:35:45.520 change your
00:35:46.320 mentality.
00:35:47.280 Don't stop using
00:35:48.140 words like unfair
00:35:49.200 or bad luck.
00:35:51.260 And stop using
00:35:53.020 terms like victim.
00:35:54.340 Just completely
00:35:55.340 get rid of those
00:35:56.140 words.
00:35:56.540 Sometimes I'll
00:35:57.540 catch myself
00:35:58.040 saying it's
00:35:58.600 just really
00:35:58.900 unfair.
00:35:59.980 And then I
00:36:00.500 immediately say
00:36:01.380 like, no, fine.
00:36:03.040 I mean, it may
00:36:03.600 be, but don't
00:36:04.400 get mired in
00:36:05.100 that.
00:36:05.920 You should
00:36:06.240 always be
00:36:06.780 thinking about
00:36:07.460 massive challenges
00:36:08.420 being thrown
00:36:08.920 your way as a
00:36:09.500 gift.
00:36:10.780 You know, even
00:36:11.520 the worst
00:36:12.000 possible challenges,
00:36:13.000 not to say
00:36:13.360 they're not sad,
00:36:14.140 they're not hard,
00:36:14.980 or that they're
00:36:15.720 fair, but they
00:36:16.880 are in a way a
00:36:17.680 gift.
00:36:18.320 Because you
00:36:18.860 will never
00:36:19.400 become strong,
00:36:20.440 ever, unless you
00:36:21.480 have hard things
00:36:22.440 thrown at you, and
00:36:23.920 then you deal with
00:36:24.880 them.
00:36:25.660 That's the only
00:36:26.440 way to getting
00:36:27.400 courageous, to
00:36:28.240 getting strong, to
00:36:29.480 getting just
00:36:30.800 confident in your
00:36:31.680 own skin that you
00:36:32.260 can handle life's
00:36:33.100 challenges.
00:36:33.580 So you've got to
00:36:35.080 accept them, and
00:36:35.680 you've got to say,
00:36:36.120 great, here's an
00:36:36.620 opportunity for me to
00:36:37.360 grow, for me to
00:36:38.120 do better, for me to
00:36:39.240 see if I can get
00:36:39.740 from A to B on my
00:36:40.540 own.
00:36:40.920 And once you do,
00:36:41.620 you should give
00:36:42.020 yourself a moment of
00:36:42.700 patting yourself on
00:36:43.340 the back.
00:36:45.020 If you have
00:36:45.860 disadvantages like
00:36:47.040 no parents,
00:36:48.320 my heart goes out
00:36:49.660 to you, but that's
00:36:50.820 as much time as
00:36:51.840 we're going to
00:36:52.200 spend on it.
00:36:53.440 No good comes from
00:36:54.680 staying stuck in
00:36:56.060 poor me.
00:36:57.700 But it's almost an
00:36:58.880 advantage in a way to
00:37:00.000 have a lot of stuff
00:37:01.240 like that in your
00:37:02.140 life.
00:37:02.820 You will wind up, if
00:37:03.820 you just keep
00:37:04.460 rowing, you will
00:37:05.960 wind up stronger than
00:37:06.940 everyone who didn't
00:37:08.480 have to go through
00:37:08.960 those challenges.
00:37:10.220 So instead of
00:37:10.980 saying poor me,
00:37:12.480 say thank you.
00:37:13.800 Another chance to
00:37:15.360 figure out how to
00:37:15.980 deal with adversity
00:37:16.780 and move off of
00:37:18.420 victimizing words and
00:37:20.320 thoughts immediately.
00:37:21.580 If you can't do it
00:37:22.320 easily, use cognitive
00:37:23.680 behavioral therapy to
00:37:24.760 think about something
00:37:25.380 else, whatever your
00:37:26.520 go-to is.
00:37:27.920 You know, as I've said
00:37:28.720 before, it was my old
00:37:29.840 sweet dog, Bosh's face.
00:37:31.280 That's so cute and it
00:37:32.280 really helps me rejigger
00:37:33.560 my brain when I get
00:37:34.440 stuck on something bad.
00:37:35.560 But you find your own
00:37:36.500 and then be religious
00:37:37.940 about it because
00:37:38.640 staying stuck in
00:37:39.680 victim mentality keeps
00:37:41.120 your life stuck in
00:37:42.240 victim mentality and
00:37:43.640 you know, victim
00:37:44.620 ology begets
00:37:46.400 victim ology.
00:37:47.440 So you do have to
00:37:48.160 move on.
00:37:48.700 All right, let's see.
00:37:50.600 Okay, this is a
00:37:52.200 line from Eric
00:37:54.280 Rostad.
00:37:54.780 He says, good
00:37:55.160 evening, Megan.
00:37:55.720 I enjoy your no
00:37:56.420 nonsense approach to
00:37:57.320 news and that you
00:37:58.420 don't let people get
00:37:59.080 away with shenanigans
00:37:59.900 on your show.
00:38:00.880 I'm taking your
00:38:01.740 advice this election
00:38:02.440 and starting out
00:38:03.460 myself as an
00:38:04.420 independent.
00:38:05.240 I've always leaned
00:38:05.820 right because of my
00:38:06.540 military service and
00:38:07.300 appreciation.
00:38:08.000 Ironically, Tulsi was
00:38:08.820 the first Democrat I
00:38:09.600 actually liked.
00:38:10.640 I'm sure you noticed
00:38:11.240 how we can't even
00:38:12.520 agree on words and
00:38:15.020 what they mean
00:38:15.500 anymore, like the
00:38:16.620 word woman.
00:38:17.640 But I can't even
00:38:18.300 define Republican or
00:38:19.420 Democrat.
00:38:20.060 I've tried.
00:38:20.980 The dictionary
00:38:21.400 doesn't help.
00:38:21.980 It says they're both
00:38:22.540 governments of the
00:38:23.320 people elected by the
00:38:24.300 people.
00:38:24.640 Maybe you can help
00:38:25.220 us out by defining
00:38:26.540 democracy, Democrat,
00:38:27.820 Republican, and so
00:38:29.340 on.
00:38:29.960 Thanks for the great
00:38:30.580 work.
00:38:31.520 Eric, I wish I
00:38:32.160 could.
00:38:32.960 I wish I could, but
00:38:34.420 do we really know at
00:38:36.000 this point?
00:38:36.660 What does it mean to
00:38:37.460 be a Republican?
00:38:39.040 Does it mean to be
00:38:40.440 pro-free trade?
00:38:43.460 Does it mean to be
00:38:44.520 pro-military and
00:38:46.120 strong intervention?
00:38:47.260 Does it mean to be
00:38:48.020 pro-national security
00:38:49.440 state?
00:38:50.000 I don't think so.
00:38:52.380 Those things have
00:38:53.160 all changed.
00:38:54.360 And what does it
00:38:54.920 mean to be a
00:38:55.320 Democrat or to be
00:38:56.360 even liberal, right?
00:38:57.380 Does it mean to be
00:38:58.780 pro-woman?
00:39:01.780 Does it mean to be
00:39:02.960 anti-people's skin
00:39:05.860 color being used
00:39:07.560 against them?
00:39:08.080 I don't think so.
00:39:10.260 Right?
00:39:10.520 So forget the
00:39:11.460 labels.
00:39:12.300 It's one of the
00:39:12.900 reasons why I am
00:39:13.580 registered independent.
00:39:14.760 Forget that nonsense.
00:39:16.240 Just vote however
00:39:17.860 your heart is aligned.
00:39:19.880 Don't vote for
00:39:20.560 douchebags and don't
00:39:22.040 vote for people who
00:39:22.840 you don't think you
00:39:23.380 can trust, right?
00:39:24.560 And don't get hung
00:39:25.480 up on party labels
00:39:26.320 unless you really want
00:39:27.460 to vote in the
00:39:27.820 primary and you have
00:39:29.140 to be registered in
00:39:30.420 that party's party in
00:39:32.080 order to cast that
00:39:32.980 vote.
00:39:33.320 And then that's the
00:39:34.040 moment of truth.
00:39:34.620 But what you call
00:39:35.980 yourself is up to
00:39:36.820 you.
00:39:37.480 How you identify
00:39:38.260 more generally is up
00:39:39.680 to you.
00:39:40.560 I'm not a big fan of
00:39:41.640 wearing people's team
00:39:42.360 jerseys.
00:39:43.180 You know, you wear the
00:39:44.380 one that makes the
00:39:44.920 most sense and then
00:39:45.680 you do what feels
00:39:46.560 right to you and
00:39:47.200 your God.
00:39:48.100 Thank you for
00:39:49.320 writing in and keep
00:39:50.260 them coming.
00:39:51.900 Well, unfortunately,
00:39:53.520 our connection with
00:39:54.940 Sean Parnell went
00:39:56.880 down and it went
00:39:57.820 down hard.
00:39:59.080 And we were never
00:39:59.920 able to reestablish
00:40:01.260 that connection.
00:40:02.000 And we're still not
00:40:03.560 able to reestablish
00:40:04.380 that connection.
00:40:04.960 So hence, we've
00:40:06.440 labeled this podcast
00:40:07.800 part one because we
00:40:10.040 will deliver part two.
00:40:11.180 There's so much to go
00:40:11.900 over and we're
00:40:12.700 actually really
00:40:13.580 flattered that Sean
00:40:14.940 trusted us with this
00:40:15.980 interview in which
00:40:17.220 we're going to go
00:40:17.760 into the reasons why
00:40:19.440 he withdrew from that
00:40:20.260 race and everything
00:40:20.980 that happened with
00:40:21.640 his family and so on.
00:40:23.000 But we're going to
00:40:23.740 pause it here as we
00:40:25.540 try to solve those
00:40:26.500 technical difficulties
00:40:27.380 and then bring you
00:40:28.660 part two.
00:40:29.240 It may not be
00:40:29.800 tomorrow, but it'll
00:40:30.520 be soon.
00:40:31.000 And I promise we
00:40:32.120 will bring it to
00:40:32.760 you and hopefully
00:40:33.700 tomorrow we will
00:40:35.340 have solved all of
00:40:36.080 our technical issues
00:40:36.840 and everything will
00:40:37.740 be just as smooth
00:40:39.080 as it always is.
00:40:40.300 Thank you for
00:40:40.940 listening.
00:40:44.000 Thanks for listening
00:40:44.860 to The Megyn Kelly
00:40:45.560 Show.
00:40:46.160 No BS, no agenda,
00:40:47.860 and no fear.