The Megyn Kelly Show - Nancy Guthrie Ransom Deadline Passes, Maxwell Takes Fifth, Musk Pivots to Moon City： AM Update 2⧸10

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00:00:30.000 Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly.

00:00:34.860 It's Tuesday, February 10th, 2026, and this is your AM Update.

00:00:39.380 We believe our mom is still out there. We need your help.

00:00:42.800 The search for missing 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie enters its 10th day

00:00:46.960 as the ransom deadline passes with no proof of life

00:00:50.780 and Savannah Guthrie issues a new plea.

00:00:53.520 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer this question.

00:00:58.580 And any related questions.

00:01:01.540 Ghislaine Maxwell pleads the fifth in an oversight committee deposition.

00:01:05.800 The Trump administration pushing back on a new report suggesting its immigration crackdown

00:01:10.320 is missing the worst of the worst.

00:01:13.220 And Elon Musk hitting pause on his mission to Mars,

00:01:17.120 shifting SpaceX toward building a lunar city.

00:01:19.900 All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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00:02:27.800 The search for missing 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie entering its 10th day

00:02:32.060 with no sign of the missing mother of NBC News host Savannah Guthrie.

00:02:36.740 As of 5 p.m. Mountain Time last night,

00:02:38.960 the alleged kidnapper's deadline to pay $6 million in Bitcoin ransom came and went.

00:02:46.580 Just hours before that deadline, Savannah Guthrie posting a new video on her Instagram account,

00:02:52.080 this one addressing the public instead of the abductor or abductors.

00:02:56.140 I wanted to come on and just share a few thoughts as we enter into another week of this nightmare.

00:03:06.660 I just want to say, first of all, thank you so much for all of the prayers

00:03:12.140 and the love that we have felt, my sister and brother and I,

00:03:18.340 and that our mom has felt,

00:03:19.640 because we believe that somehow, someway, she is feeling these prayers

00:03:24.860 and that God is lifting her even in this moment and in this darkest place.

00:03:29.060 We believe our mom is still out there.

00:03:31.920 We need your help.

00:03:33.780 She was taken and we don't know where.

00:03:36.320 And we need your help.

00:03:37.900 So I'm coming on just to ask you,

00:03:40.460 not just for your prayers,

00:03:41.860 but no matter where you are,

00:03:43.880 even if you're far from Tucson,

00:03:45.960 if you see anything,

00:03:47.320 if you hear anything,

00:03:48.300 if there's anything at all that seems strange to you,

00:03:52.660 that you report to law enforcement,

00:03:55.100 we are at an hour of desperation.

00:03:58.220 Many noting a markedly more natural cadence in her latest message,

00:04:02.260 a shift from earlier.

00:04:04.160 The Pima County Sheriff's Office yesterday issuing yet another update

00:04:07.500 without much of an update at all.

00:04:10.100 Journalist Brian Enten reporting the FBI says

00:04:12.780 it is not aware of any continued communication between the Guthrie family

00:04:16.500 and the suspected kidnappers,

00:04:19.040 nor have they identified any suspects or persons of interest at this time.

00:04:23.760 Veteran homicide investigator Paul Cialino telling the New York Post

00:04:27.140 he does not think the ransom notes were legitimate.

00:04:30.600 I don't think she was kidnapped.

00:04:31.760 We would have heard, listen,

00:04:32.700 there would have been a video,

00:04:33.660 there would have been a photograph,

00:04:34.980 there would have been something,

00:04:36.080 a lock of hair,

00:04:37.980 a drop of blood,

00:04:39.800 something mailed to somebody so they could verify,

00:04:42.380 yes, in fact, these people have my mother.

00:04:44.680 Kidnappers want to get paid quickly.

00:04:47.120 They don't want this thing to linger.

00:04:49.100 If you're negotiating with another drug dealer in South America somewhere,

00:04:52.680 it could go on for a few weeks, a month,

00:04:55.160 until they get bored

00:04:55.980 and decide this is not worth it. 0.99

00:04:58.600 And it's either pay up or we're going to kill this person. 0.97

00:05:01.560 And it's always a negotiation, right?

00:05:03.700 The first figure that I threw out is never what actually gets paid,

00:05:06.980 like any good business deal.

00:05:09.060 There's going to be a negotiation,

00:05:11.300 but it's going to be a fast and hard one.

00:05:13.520 And there's been no negotiations.

00:05:16.440 No one's called up and said,

00:05:17.580 hey, where was my money?

00:05:19.480 That hasn't happened.

00:05:20.740 For a simple reason is nobody's kidnapped her, I don't think.

00:05:23.900 If you're a good kidnapper,

00:05:24.800 you're going to grab the medication on the way out the door

00:05:26.720 because you're going to have to take care of her.

00:05:28.980 You're going to have to keep her alive and healthy, right?

00:05:32.260 So it shows a total lack of planning.

00:05:35.000 Major questions still remain,

00:05:36.760 including what Nancy's full pacemaker data shows,

00:05:40.120 what proof exists that Nancy did in fact return home on Saturday night,

00:05:45.080 and why investigators returned to daughter Annie's home over the weekend,

00:05:49.480 taking photographs for several hours in the dark of the evening,

00:05:53.520 a location the local sheriff's office said

00:05:55.560 they intended to return to again last night.

00:05:59.220 MK True Crime host Phil Holloway is on the ground for us in Tucson.

00:06:02.640 He'll bring exclusive reporting to The Megyn Kelly Show later this afternoon.

00:06:06.760 Convicted Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell

00:06:10.740 appearing virtually before the House Oversight Committee yesterday

00:06:13.980 for a deposition tied to the committee's bipartisan investigation

00:06:17.660 into the DOJ's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case.

00:06:21.500 As expected, Maxwell pleading the fifth,

00:06:23.600 declining to answer any questions.

00:06:25.920 Maxwell currently serving a 20-year prison sentence

00:06:28.580 for her role in Jeffrey Epstein's sexual abuse

00:06:31.380 and her own misconduct as well.

00:06:33.780 Here, a moment from the taped deposition.

00:06:35.860 On the advice of counsel,

00:06:38.300 I respectfully decline to answer this question

00:06:41.100 and any related questions.

00:06:44.220 My habeas petition is pending in the Southern District of New York.

00:06:48.600 I therefore invoke my right to silence

00:06:51.000 under the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

00:06:55.080 Maxwell filing a habeas petition,

00:06:57.380 challenging her conviction in December,

00:06:59.200 a last-ditch, long-shot legal effort,

00:07:01.520 after the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear her appeal in October.

00:07:06.100 Congressman Andy Biggs, Republican from Arizona,

00:07:08.740 and Chairman James Comer yesterday

00:07:10.560 describing Maxwell's deposition to reporters.

00:07:13.960 The attorney for Ms. Maxwell said that

00:07:18.120 she has no indication and would say that

00:07:21.720 neither Presidents Trump or Clinton

00:07:24.960 are culpable for any wrongdoing.

00:07:27.440 And that's one thing they said in his opening statement to us today.

00:07:31.940 Just to be clear, what her attorney said,

00:07:34.500 Maxwell didn't say her attorney said

00:07:36.220 that she would answer questions

00:07:38.420 if she were granted clemency

00:07:40.360 by the President Trump.

00:07:43.360 Maxwell's attorney, David Oscar Marcus,

00:07:46.340 posting to X, quote,

00:07:47.820 Ms. Maxwell is prepared to speak fully and honestly

00:07:50.620 if granted clemency by President Trump.

00:07:54.360 Only she can provide the complete account.

00:07:57.000 Some may not like what they hear,

00:07:58.620 but the truth matters.

00:08:00.460 Oversight Committee Democrats

00:08:01.520 now blaming President Trump

00:08:02.940 for Maxwell's continued refusal to cooperate.

00:08:05.920 Here, Congressman James Walkinshaw of Virginia,

00:08:08.920 Congressman Suhas Subramanian of Virginia,

00:08:11.420 and Congresswoman Melanie Stansbury of New Mexico.

00:08:14.420 What we did get was another episode

00:08:18.300 in her long-running campaign for clemency

00:08:22.080 from President Trump.

00:08:23.860 And President Trump could end that today.

00:08:26.180 He could rule out clemency

00:08:27.700 for Ghislaine Maxwell the monster.

00:08:30.300 Ghislaine Maxwell should have no hope

00:08:32.700 of ever getting out of prison.

00:08:34.000 And so we will continue to call for this president

00:08:36.420 to completely rule out a pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell.

00:08:40.660 She is not being released from jail

00:08:43.480 unless, of course, Donald Trump buys what she's selling.

00:08:47.020 She is exactly where she's supposed to be

00:08:49.180 in terms of her conviction,

00:08:50.240 and she needs to go back to the prison where she belongs. 1.00

00:08:53.860 President Trump aboard Air Force One in November

00:08:56.220 had this to say about a possible pardon.

00:08:58.540 Have you pulled out a pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell?

00:09:02.540 I haven't even thought about it.

00:09:03.980 I mean, I haven't thought about it for months.

00:09:07.640 Maybe I haven't thought about it at all.

00:09:09.200 You're just asking me a question.

00:09:10.920 But I don't talk about that.

00:09:12.200 I don't rule it in or out.

00:09:13.400 I don't even think about it.

00:09:15.280 Maxwell transferred in August

00:09:16.540 to a lower-security federal prison camp in Texas,

00:09:19.900 an apparent concession for earlier cooperation,

00:09:22.420 in an interview with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche.

00:09:25.260 The Oversight Committee's investigation continues.

00:09:28.380 Many depositions set for the coming weeks,

00:09:30.380 including former Victoria's Secret CEO

00:09:33.440 Les Wexner on February 18th.

00:09:36.600 That ought to be a good one.

00:09:38.000 And Hillary and Bill Clinton

00:09:39.420 on February 26th and 27th, respectively.

00:09:44.140 Coming up, the Trump administration

00:09:45.940 responding to a new report suggesting

00:09:47.780 the admin is not, as it claims,

00:09:50.960 targeting the worst of the worst

00:09:52.740 in its immigration crackdown.

00:09:54.240 And Elon Musk's SpaceX mission to Mars delayed

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00:11:12.180 The Trump administration sparring with CBS News

00:11:15.220 over the framing of a report on whether ICE

00:11:17.560 is, in fact, targeting the, quote,

00:11:20.240 worst of the worst.

00:11:22.200 CBS News reporting, quote,

00:11:23.760 less than 14% of those arrested by ICE

00:11:26.400 in Trump's first year back in office

00:11:28.120 had violent criminal records,

00:11:30.640 basing its report on an internal DHS memo.

00:11:33.380 The report stating, quote,

00:11:35.360 the internal DHS figures undermine frequent assertions

00:11:38.720 by the Trump administration

00:11:39.760 that its crackdown on illegal immigration

00:11:42.060 is primarily targeting dangerous and violent criminals

00:11:45.340 living in the U.S. illegally,

00:11:47.500 people Mr. Trump and his lieutenants

00:11:49.340 have regularly called the worst of the worst.

00:11:52.800 CBS's immigration correspondent,

00:11:55.040 Camilo Montoya-Galvez,

00:11:56.980 digging deeper into the findings.

00:11:58.520 The internal DHS document that we obtained here at CBS News

00:12:01.560 shows that over the past year,

00:12:03.080 the second Trump administration,

00:12:04.740 specifically ICE,

00:12:05.720 has arrested about 400,000 individuals

00:12:08.140 who are suspected of being in the country illegally.

00:12:10.480 About 40% of those 400,000 immigrants

00:12:13.780 did not have any criminal record here in the U.S.,

00:12:16.760 meaning that they were being held solely

00:12:18.120 because of civil immigration violations,

00:12:19.900 like living in the country without permission.

00:12:22.240 About 60% did have some kind of criminal charge

00:12:24.680 or conviction,

00:12:25.820 but the numbers show that most of those criminal offenses

00:12:29.040 were non-violent in nature,

00:12:31.080 and only 14% included violent crimes

00:12:33.920 like murder, homicide, and sexual assault.

00:12:37.300 According to CBS,

00:12:38.700 10.9% of those arrested by ICE

00:12:41.180 had assault charges or convictions,

00:12:43.780 with smaller percentages for crimes

00:12:45.440 like homicide and robbery.

00:12:47.680 The Trump administration pushing back hard

00:12:49.580 on CBS's interpretation of those numbers.

00:12:52.680 DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin

00:12:54.860 writing on X, quote,

00:12:55.840 "...drug trafficking, distribution of child pornography,

00:12:59.500 burglary, fraud, DUI, embezzlement,

00:13:02.520 solicitation of a minor, human smuggling,

00:13:05.000 are all categorized as non-violent crimes." 0.67

00:13:09.000 McLaughlin also writing that about 70%

00:13:11.160 of illegal immigrants arrested under President Trump

00:13:13.740 and Secretary Noem

00:13:14.880 have pending criminal charges or prior convictions.

00:13:19.180 We asked McLaughlin about the discrepancy

00:13:21.240 between her numbers and the alleged memo

00:13:23.540 CBS has in its hands.

00:13:24.960 She told us the department is not familiar

00:13:27.440 with the specific document CBS is referencing,

00:13:30.420 saying it has not been shared with DHS

00:13:32.480 by the news outlet.

00:13:34.100 Fox News reporter Bill Malusian

00:13:35.620 adding further context on X,

00:13:37.740 posting, quote,

00:13:38.760 "...none of Lakin Riley, Jocelyn Nangare,

00:13:41.680 and Rachel Morin's illegal alien killers

00:13:43.920 had any violent criminal history beforehand." 0.74

00:13:48.000 President Trump getting re-elected in 2024

00:13:50.000 while promising to conduct

00:13:51.620 the largest mass deportation effort

00:13:53.660 in human history following years of an open border

00:13:57.020 under President Joe Biden.

00:13:59.320 NBC News reporting yesterday on a June interview

00:14:02.340 with President Trump's border czar, Tom Homan,

00:14:04.920 featured in the forthcoming book,

00:14:06.860 Undue Process,

00:14:07.880 the inside story of Trump's mass deportation program.

00:14:11.120 In that interview,

00:14:12.240 Homan stressing the importance

00:14:13.380 of prioritizing criminal offenders,

00:14:15.620 saying, quote,

00:14:16.120 "...I think the vast majority

00:14:17.240 of the American people think

00:14:18.620 criminal illegal aliens need to leave, 1.00

00:14:21.540 and if we stick to that prioritization,

00:14:23.880 I think we keep the faith of the American people,

00:14:26.380 and we've got to do it in a humane manner." 0.70

00:14:29.060 Homan arriving in Minnesota last month

00:14:31.000 effectively replacing Border Patrol commander Greg Bovino,

00:14:34.280 whose more aggressive public-facing enforcement

00:14:36.340 drew backlash and political fallout.

00:14:38.920 Homan now working to increase cooperation

00:14:41.500 with local authorities

00:14:42.620 while emphasizing a continued focus

00:14:45.000 on targeting criminal offenders.

00:14:47.820 President Trump in an interview

00:14:49.040 with NBC News last week,

00:14:50.960 reflecting on how the fallout from Minnesota

00:14:52.840 is influencing who the administration targets

00:14:55.900 for deportation.

00:14:57.360 I learned that maybe we can use

00:15:00.740 a little bit of a softer touch,

00:15:03.000 but you still have to be tough.

00:15:04.380 These are criminals.

00:15:04.960 We're dealing with really hard criminals.

00:15:09.160 SpaceX founder Elon Musk

00:15:10.920 delaying the rocket company's mission

00:15:12.800 to colonize Mars,

00:15:14.660 now focusing on, quote,

00:15:16.260 "...building a self-growing city on the moon.

00:15:19.100 My goal is to walk more." 0.87

00:15:21.420 Musk founding SpaceX back in 2002

00:15:23.620 with the goal of reducing the cost of space travel

00:15:26.060 and ultimately enabling humans to live on Mars.

00:15:29.840 Eight months ago,

00:15:30.640 Musk announcing plans to launch

00:15:31.900 five unmanned ships to Mars

00:15:34.080 as early as this year.

00:15:36.000 Musk previously describing

00:15:37.180 the massive logistical challenge

00:15:38.740 of building a self-sustaining

00:15:40.540 civilization on the Red Planet

00:15:42.360 during a SpaceX town hall.

00:15:44.840 We need to get about a million tons,

00:15:47.020 is my guess,

00:15:48.260 to the surface of Mars

00:15:49.540 to make a civilization on Mars

00:15:51.420 self-sustaining

00:15:52.200 and get to that critical point

00:15:54.460 where if the resupply shifts

00:15:56.360 from Earth stop coming for any reason,

00:15:58.100 Mars still succeeds.

00:15:59.780 Mars can still grow.

00:16:01.160 And so you can't be missing anything.

00:16:02.720 You can't be missing even, like,

00:16:03.800 the equivalent of vitamin C or anything.

00:16:05.240 You've got to have everything you need

00:16:06.300 for Mars to grow.

00:16:08.120 That's essential.

00:16:09.000 So my guess is that's about a million tons,

00:16:10.680 but it might be 10 million tons.

00:16:12.360 I hope it's not 100 million tons.

00:16:14.560 That'd be a lot.

00:16:15.560 But we want to try to get to that point

00:16:17.720 and secure the future of civilization

00:16:19.520 as quickly as possible.

00:16:21.280 On Friday,

00:16:21.920 the Wall Street Journal reporting,

00:16:23.180 SpaceX has now told investors

00:16:24.680 it is pivoting,

00:16:26.160 aiming first to establish a city on the moon

00:16:28.360 before we colonize Mars.

00:16:30.980 The move marking a notable reversal,

00:16:33.500 Musk last year calling the moon,

00:16:35.120 quote,

00:16:35.400 a distraction,

00:16:36.440 writing on X,

00:16:37.160 quote,

00:16:37.360 we're going straight to Mars.

00:16:39.140 But in a post-Sunday night,

00:16:40.720 Musk now arguing

00:16:41.520 a self-growing moon city

00:16:43.540 could be achieved in under 10 years,

00:16:46.220 compared with more than 20 years

00:16:47.660 for the Mars outpost.

00:16:49.560 From Musk,

00:16:50.300 quote,

00:16:50.920 it is only possible to travel to Mars

00:16:52.720 when the planets align

00:16:53.720 every 26 months,

00:16:55.660 six-month trip time,

00:16:57.440 whereas we can launch to the moon

00:16:58.900 every 10 days,

00:17:00.240 two-day trip time.

00:17:01.640 This means we can iterate

00:17:02.660 much faster to complete a moon city

00:17:04.800 than a Mars city.

00:17:06.880 The post ending,

00:17:07.940 quote,

00:17:08.040 SpaceX will also strive

00:17:09.460 to build a Mars city

00:17:10.480 and begin doing so

00:17:11.700 in about five to seven years.

00:17:13.380 But the overriding priority

00:17:14.540 is securing the future

00:17:15.740 of civilization,

00:17:17.060 and the moon is faster.

00:17:19.320 The announcement coming

00:17:20.100 as NASA encourages

00:17:21.100 increased competition

00:17:22.160 between SpaceX

00:17:23.240 and Jeff Bezos'

00:17:24.780 Blue Origin

00:17:25.660 to assist NASA

00:17:26.920 as it races to land humans

00:17:28.600 on the moon

00:17:29.220 as early as 2028.

00:17:31.940 Gail! 0.98

00:17:32.460 Gail King!

00:17:33.280 They need you!

00:17:35.040 The last time

00:17:36.060 man landed on the moon

00:17:37.100 was in 1972.

00:17:41.240 And that'll do it

00:17:42.160 for your AM Update.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - February 10, 2026

Nancy Guthrie Ransom Deadline Passes, Maxwell Takes Fifth, Musk Pivots to Moon City： AM Update 2⧸10

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