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00:00:31.280 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:33.120 Live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:42.700 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:46.020 One week to go until Election Day. Can you believe it?

00:00:49.640 People are getting tense. Can you feel it?

00:00:51.400 I don't know. I'm not that tense, I have to say.

00:00:53.000 Like, I'm watching it and I have a result that I would prefer,

00:00:57.740 but I don't, like, I am sleeping like a baby again at night.

00:01:01.700 My team was right. It was just the amount of news that was on me.

00:01:04.380 I, like, I'm, I want a result, but I'm confident.

00:01:08.940 Well, I think my life will be okay if she wins, and I think the country is going to change dramatically,

00:01:20.540 but there are, there are ways of limiting her agenda.

00:01:24.480 And frankly, if she wins, we're prepared to walk you through all those ways.

00:01:28.540 So try to take a deep breath. Take a deep breath. Root for your preferred outcome.

00:01:35.760 If you really, really want a certain outcome, get out there and work for it.

00:01:39.180 It's not too late to volunteer to drive a bus around Pennsylvania or Georgia or North Carolina,

00:01:45.460 any of these states where we need to get people to the polls.

00:01:48.080 But just the, the, the downright panic and meltdowns I'm seeing on the left,

00:01:55.760 I got to admit, they're kind of amusing to me.

00:01:58.260 And I just, I'd hate to see conservatives behave like this.

00:02:01.340 I just think we've typically been the more reasoned side, and this is no time to lose that.

00:02:08.560 If you want, if you tune into MSNBC these days, and you should just, I think you'll enjoy it.

00:02:13.900 I mean, you can definitely tell they think she's losing. I don't know whether she is losing,

00:02:18.180 but you can tell they think she's losing. They're, they're talking about how

00:02:22.240 they're deeply concerned that Trump is going to throw them in prison.

00:02:26.000 He's going to, I guess that's, he's going to get the Navy SEAL to your house.

00:02:30.320 And if you look like Nicole Wallace, he will grab you and he will place you in some sort of a gulag.

00:02:38.760 So this kind of rhetoric pushed every morning, by the way, by Mika Brzezinski,

00:02:42.320 got her an invitation to go over to The View. ABC was like, yes, we want to hear that on our

00:02:47.800 airwaves. So she goes over to The View and she, I guess, sensing her big moment with a different

00:02:53.380 audience, tries to dial it up. She didn't think she was incendiary enough over on the morning show

00:02:58.900 on MS. So she produced what looked like fake tears and got super emotional about Donald Trump

00:03:07.960 because she's really trying to scare the hell out of the American people as much as possible as she

00:03:12.620 demonizes half the country and the ladies of The View. Yeah. Preach, Mika. They love it. I mean,

00:03:19.900 what, is there anybody on that panel that supports Trump? The one gal who used to work for Trump,

00:03:24.240 she can't stand him. The other gal at one point was a conservative. Best I can tell,

00:03:28.620 she might be Christian, but like doesn't stand up for any of our values. So I don't know.

00:03:33.420 There's nobody over there who stands up for Trump. Like that would be so much more interesting if they

00:03:38.280 had an actual Trump supporter on the panel. But instead, what they do is bring on a guest that

00:03:43.020 looks like Mika Brzezinski, who's in the midst of a full meltdown. Meantime, Jeff Bezos and The

00:03:50.100 Washington Post are having their own meltdown. And it might be my favorite story of the week. I

00:03:54.520 like all of your least favorite people are quitting The Washington Post. Nobody knows who

00:04:01.520 works there, but they're upset. Your least favorite people are upset with The Washington

00:04:05.440 Post for not endorsing. And here's what I love. They are quitting and canceling their subscriptions.

00:04:12.380 And now, meantime, we've seen the LA Times do the same. They did it first. And now USA Today did the

00:04:23.300 same. Like these people must be feeling so stupid. It's become a last minute trend. They say it's

00:04:28.660 because they're finding their spines and realizing that it's not good to be partisan and that they're

00:04:32.460 losing too many subscribers. So they're going to be like more moderate or neutral now, which is a lie.

00:04:38.400 They know Trump is going to win. They believe he's going to win. And they're, I think, trying to curry

00:04:43.840 favor with him. They don't want to, at the last minute, endorse his opponent when they don't really

00:04:48.420 have to. And they think she's a lost cause. And all these people who resigned like in protest,

00:04:55.660 they'll be totally forgotten. They already are almost totally forgotten. So good luck finding another job

00:05:00.640 because your industry is already hemorrhaging and no one knows who you are. So you're not going to make

00:05:04.800 it in podcasting or independent media. So all the best to you people. Okay. In just a bit,

00:05:10.440 our second hour, we're going to be joined by Selena Zito. She's going to update us on the crucial state

00:05:14.500 of Pennsylvania. But first I'm joined by my pal, Glenn Beck. This show encourages honest

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00:06:20.660 to take back control of the news you consume. He's hosted the Glenn Beck program on blaze TV. He's also

00:06:27.480 author of the new book propaganda wars, how the global elite control what you see, think, and feel,

00:06:35.160 which is out right now. And man, as usual, Glenn Beck, do you have excellent timing on your book and

00:06:43.000 the things you write about? I mean, you nailed it with Bezos and the LA times. I mean, the, the,

00:06:51.040 for them to come out and say, you know, we've, we've just spotted something here recently.

00:06:57.680 This may not be the best for our business. Right. Right. Uh, everybody knows that, uh, you,

00:07:05.360 you don't want a president, especially one that you actually think might make an enemies list,

00:07:11.040 which he's not going to do. He's not that way. He's already talking about, and I don't like this,

00:07:15.860 uh, letting, uh, Hunter Biden off the hook. He's not that guy, but, uh, he does have a long memory

00:07:23.580 of, you know, who helped him, who didn't help him. Uh, and I, uh, I, I think all these places are

00:07:29.580 like, well, let's, let's, let's, let's not have this on our record, uh, that we also at the last

00:07:36.480 minute went all in on a candidate that was going to lose. Cause I think you're right. That's exactly

00:07:42.240 how they feel, but the propaganda doesn't stop. I don't know if you saw the op-ed from the Washington

00:07:48.020 post from the Washington post that says most Americans agree with Kamala Harris. They just

00:07:55.900 don't know it. Take our poll. And you're like, what? And they, so they put a list together.

00:08:03.520 Have you seen this? They put a list together of eight things that when you answer these,

00:08:09.380 honestly, it'll show you that you're, you're, you're right with, uh, Kamala Harris. Well,

00:08:15.760 I took a couple of my friends took it. Stu just took it. No, no, it's still, we're still against

00:08:22.580 Kamala's, uh, uh, uh, platform. They're so absolutely, uh, not self-aware. They have no idea

00:08:34.560 that they actually live in a bubble. And if it is a bubble to them, they think everyone outside of

00:08:41.020 that bubble is just stupid or racist or a Nazi. Yeah, we're not. So, so on the subject of the,

00:08:50.660 uh, the Washington post, the meltdown over there, which I've just, I mean, I, I honestly,

00:08:54.300 I've been enjoying the whole thing. I've been liking it a lot. Um, Jeff Bezos publishes a piece

00:09:00.040 in WAPO. He owns it late last night. It hits today called the hard truth. Americans don't

00:09:06.800 trust the news media. Now you and I could have written, you and I could have written a piece

00:09:11.800 that starts that way. We're, we're so far, we're eyeball to eyeball, Jeff. Yes, we totally agree.

00:09:16.380 We could have done it 20 years ago, by the way. Yes. We must be believed to be accurate. It's a bitter

00:09:23.780 pill to swallow, but we are failing on the second requirement. So far, we are all in agreement.

00:09:28.720 You are failing. You are not believed to be accurate. Reality is an undefeated.

00:09:34.620 They're, they're, they're failing on the second one because they're failing on the first one.

00:09:39.260 Yes, of course. It's not like we just don't believe them.

00:09:41.680 Stand by. Let me, let me just give, let me tee it up. Reality is an undefeated champion. It would

00:09:46.420 be easy to blame others for our long and continuing fall in credibility and therefore decline in

00:09:51.120 impact, but a victim mentality will not help. Right on, sir. Complaining is not a strategy. We must work

00:09:56.880 harder to control what we can control to increase our credibility. All right. So first of all,

00:10:05.440 he's trying to say we've lost credibility without going through the list of how they've misreported,

00:10:11.460 intentionally misled and what the plan is, because what he's doing here is trying to justify his

00:10:17.140 decision not to endorse any candidate. And without taking ownership, Glenn, of the many, many errors,

00:10:26.240 lies, repeated false stories that they have pushed over the past eight, nine years. He, this is a Jeff

00:10:33.400 Bezos' ass covering. This is not a mea culpa designed to actually bring back in anybody right

00:10:39.240 of center. No, this is, this is like the three-step program from AA. I mean, you, you have to admit

00:10:48.080 that what you have been doing isn't working. You have to, you have to lay out all of the things that

00:10:55.180 you have done and make sure that you make amends for those things. You can't just say, yeah, I'm an

00:11:02.300 alcoholic. And, uh, you know what? I, my real problem is, is people now know I'm an alcoholic.

00:11:11.040 Uh, and that's the real part. No, that's not the real problem. The real problem is you've done this,

00:11:16.100 this, this, this, this, and this, and that's what led to your alcoholism. Yeah. No, it's like the

00:11:21.400 alcoholic being like, nobody wants to be around me. My breath smells bad. I keep falling asleep in

00:11:27.780 the middle of work and it seems to be turning people off. So I'm going to stop doing those

00:11:32.200 things, but no mention of the drinking. We're not going to work on that at all. No, no, of the cause

00:11:37.840 you've got to go to the root cause. Uh, and I don't know, is it because he's afraid of his own

00:11:43.580 people because for them to, uh, quit over this, do you really think anybody who reads the Washington

00:11:51.900 post is not aware of the Washington post, uh, desire to have Kamala Harris? I mean, look at the

00:12:00.520 op-ed that I just showed you. They're still doing that. I mean, everybody knows. Yes. Okay. So he goes

00:12:08.440 on to say as follows, uh, presidential endorsements do nothing to tip the scales on election. Agreed.

00:12:14.080 No undecided voters in Pennsylvania are going to say, I'm going with newspaper A's endorsement.

00:12:18.060 None agreed. What they actually do is create a perception of bias. I mean, yes, but it's already

00:12:23.600 there. A perception of non-independence. I hate to break it to you, Jeff. That was riddled all over

00:12:29.720 your magazine or your newspaper long before endorsements, ending them as a principal decision

00:12:34.680 and it's the right one. Well, I'm glad you agree with yourself. Uh, then he goes on to say this,

00:12:38.820 Glenn, get buckle up. Ready? So funny. I just love it. Yeah. Many people are turning to off the cuff

00:12:46.380 podcasts, inaccurate social media posts and other unverified news sources, which can quickly spread

00:12:54.680 misinformation and deepen divisions. The Washington post and the New York times win prizes, but increasingly

00:13:03.860 we talk only to a certain elite while I do not, and will not push my personal interest. I will also

00:13:11.500 not allow this paper to stay on autopilot and fade into irrelevance overtaken by unresearched podcasts

00:13:21.820 and social media barbs, not without a fight. It's too important. That's it. Oh my gosh. You

00:13:29.780 self-important gob of vomit. Um, look, they, they, uh, they don't understand that. I, I believe, uh,

00:13:41.740 that the way Trump is seeing this right now is he's actually open and authentic and he is talking to

00:13:49.420 the regular people through these podcasts. Nobody relates to ABC, NBC, CBS anymore. And they're,

00:13:56.420 they're anchors who listens to those people anymore. And yet they're the ones doing the debates.

00:14:02.200 They're the ones that are doing the important interviews that end up being edited, uh, one way

00:14:08.340 or another. These, these podcasts that, that Donald Trump is coming on like Joe Rogan, I think will,

00:14:16.780 will be the replacement for the media in four years. I think if Trump wins, it will largely be because

00:14:25.020 he, he, he understood where trust is. Standby audience. We will fix the audio with Glenn and

00:14:32.500 we shall resume with Glenn in just two minutes while we get that fixed. But while I have you all,

00:14:37.460 um, the, the nonsense that Jeff Bezos spews in this piece is truly stomach turning unresearched

00:14:44.520 podcasts or social media barbs. You can tell this is a man know who knows he's lost irrelevance

00:14:50.520 clinging to the last vestiges of it. The golden days when WAPO used to be a thing, Woodward and

00:14:57.660 Bernstein, when they can control the neighbor, the narrative and bring down a president, those days

00:15:02.500 are gone. And he knows it. The Rogan interview of Trump right now has 37 million views, 37 million

00:15:10.300 views. And that's not with all due respect to X where I post my own stuff too, but X will count

00:15:16.940 a view. If you just scroll by it on YouTube, you've actually got to see it to get a view.

00:15:21.160 You've got to click on it. And that's 37 million. The Washington post as of 2023 had 136,000 print

00:15:31.560 sub, uh, subscriptions, 136,000. That's, that's not a lot. And digital subscriptions, they had 2.5

00:15:39.820 million. Okay. I have more than that to my YouTube channel. It's I'm sure Glenn does too.

00:15:46.040 They're irrelevant. No one's listening to them anymore. And Jeff Bezos knows it. And so this,

00:15:52.860 I'm not going to endorse because I'm going to resurrect my paper makes no sense. They've already

00:15:59.620 sold their credibility up there, up the river. They know it. And this is him desperately trying

00:16:05.640 to hold on to any sort of pat on the head ability he can get from Donald Trump. I think we've got

00:16:10.460 Glenn back with us. Sorry, Glenn, we lost you for a minute. You can only lose so much credibility and

00:16:15.860 you can, I mean, they've made themselves irrelevant. Nobody needs the, uh, Ivy league expert to ask

00:16:25.000 questions that no American is asking. Uh, January 6th is one of them. If they bring up January 6th,

00:16:32.040 one more time over the possibility of, I don't know, sending my son or daughter to nuclear war,

00:16:37.920 uh, over in Ukraine or Taiwan or wherever else they will want to gin up a war. I don't know.

00:16:45.300 I think that's more important than January 6th when you want to bring up January 6th. If you didn't

00:16:49.880 have a record of bringing up the burning down of say just Minneapolis or Portland, you don't have any

00:16:55.940 credibility at all. So why would I be listening to you on that? Joe Rogan was asking the question,

00:17:02.020 that the average person wanted to know. Um, and these guys are just like, I think you are,

00:17:09.980 I hope I am, but we're more like the average person. Now you're very well educated. I'm pretty

00:17:17.860 much a dope, but, uh, Joe Rogan, the people are, are, they relate to him. And that's why the ABC,

00:17:27.660 NBC, CBS doesn't work. They don't relate at all. You know, it's like, um, I'm a big TV history buff.

00:17:35.620 And Sid Caesar did your show of shows back in the 1950s. It had Woody Allen as a writer. Uh,

00:17:42.360 it had Carl Reiner as a writer, Mel Brooks as a writer. It lost every week lost to the Lawrence

00:17:52.080 Welk show. And here's why they were making jokes about Shakespeare and things that were on Broadway.

00:18:00.320 The rest of the country could not relate at all. So miss some really good comedy because it wasn't

00:18:06.740 aimed. It was aimed just for their little click that doesn't work. And that's what the media has

00:18:13.480 become. Let's just talk about our, our, what our friends at our cocktail parties on, on, uh,

00:18:19.300 Madison Avenue or on central park West are talking about that's not America. You you've got to relate

00:18:27.200 to Americans and let the candidates talk. I really, truly believe, uh, this is the last election.

00:18:34.880 I could be wrong, but I, I don't think so. I really think by 2028, if he wins by 2028,

00:18:41.380 you're not going to see the mainstream media have the debates. They're going to be farmed out,

00:18:48.300 uh, to whoever, whoever has the biggest audience and is the most relatable. Uh, you might have

00:18:55.500 journalists doing it, but they're not going to be from ABC, NBC, the Washington post only.

00:19:00.760 They will also include other people because this system doesn't work anymore where they're,

00:19:06.680 they're fighting to bring back the three network system. It's work. It's too late. I mean,

00:19:13.780 they're the, the, the three networks are as dead as the fake skeletons I have in my front yard right

00:19:19.180 now. They are, they are that dead. You can put a wig on them. Like I did. You can put a dress or a

00:19:24.200 suit on them. Like I did, but they're dead and they're not coming back. Listen to this, Glenn,

00:19:28.980 um, Canadian Debbie just sent me a couple of examples of the Washington post. Now see,

00:19:34.160 even without their presidential endorsement, if you can guess which side the Washington post is on

00:19:40.880 in this presidential election. Okay. Got a few for you. Here's one, um, Trump and allies plot revenge

00:19:49.300 justice department control in a second term. Here's another one. Trump's promise to exact revenge

00:19:55.720 won't be hindered by mere laws. Wow. There's another Trump wants revenge in 2024. And here's

00:20:02.840 yet another one. Trump doesn't just want to win. He wants revenge. That's just a couple over the last

00:20:09.480 few days. And that is crazy going. He's not, he is. I don't know if you've seen him. He is the opposite.

00:20:18.100 No, he's, let me say it this way. He's exactly what I think, uh, Republicans and independents

00:20:24.540 didn't think he would be in this election back in 2020, 21, when people were talking about Donald

00:20:31.820 Trump running again, we're like, Oh no, it's all going to be about 2020. And I lost in what they've

00:20:36.960 done to me, et cetera, et cetera. He's not. In fact, I think he's running the best. Yeah. He's running the

00:20:43.240 best, uh, campaign I have seen any Republican run. He's happy. He's optimistic. He has the spirit

00:20:50.800 kind of Ronald Reagan. He's got huge, huge vision. And all they're relying on is he's Hitler.

00:20:59.060 I don't think you win an election with that. He's Hitler. Don't think so.

00:21:04.820 No, you're so right. Glenn, because remember when he first started running and of course it's been a

00:21:09.080 two-year campaign. So we're going back a while. He, he was still grievancy about the 2020 election.

00:21:15.380 And a lot of us were saying like, if this is what he's going to do, he's going to lose.

00:21:18.980 And then he totally dumped it. He, I'm sure he's not actually over it in his mind,

00:21:24.660 but he has stopped raising it. He'll talk about it in response to questions,

00:21:28.560 but he has stopped raising 2020 and the, and the election loss on his own. He's focused on the

00:21:33.580 American people now. So tell me, why do you think they're doing it? I mean, I have a,

00:21:38.380 I have a theory that, uh, the hope thing or the joy thing worked while everybody was like,

00:21:45.640 whoo, thank God, it's not going to be Joe Biden. Cause that would have been a disaster.

00:21:49.780 And so they had this great relief. It's anyone, but Joe Biden, then that started to fade when they

00:21:55.620 realized, Oh, but it's her, we know who she is. Uh, and so, uh, they had to change gears because it

00:22:03.320 wasn't with it. There was nobody left to get, and her base was starting to go away. So go back to

00:22:09.620 recharging her base by saying Hitler, Hitler, Hitler. Um, and I, and I think that does one of a theory.

00:22:17.560 Okay, go ahead. So I think number one, yeah, orange man, bad has worked for them in the past.

00:22:23.380 And, uh, so that's an oldie, but a goodie. So might as well try it when, um, joy is not working.

00:22:30.220 But I also think Len that they're laying the foundation to stop him from actually assuming

00:22:37.960 office if, and when he wins. Yep. You could not write, you, you could go on chat GPT and say,

00:22:45.760 give me a speech against my opponent and convince people he needs to either, uh, be taken down

00:22:55.500 legally or assassinated before he, and you would come up with this campaign. It, it, they are doing

00:23:02.180 everything they can to make either someone reach out and try to kill him or just go to the street

00:23:10.140 in violence, whether he wins or not, just go out in the street and cause all kinds of chaos.

00:23:15.760 Or, or the Jamie Raskin, like he's an insurrectionist and he has to be stopped.

00:23:21.280 Like, yep. Everything depends on stopping him.

00:23:24.240 To me, that says that they are desperate.

00:23:26.160 In both ways. So what do they have to lose?

00:23:28.000 Yep. Yep. They think they're going to lose and they have to set the stage for the next phase,

00:23:33.120 which is at all costs, take him out. That's frightening. It's frightening.

00:23:38.500 No, it is frightening. And, uh, I, I agree with you. I feel like they're, they've gone so over

00:23:44.400 the top in the rhetoric. What else would explain it? Like they're in a true panic. He's going to win

00:23:49.260 and I, not for nothing, but like technically MSNBC is still a news organization. Technically,

00:23:55.960 this is what they want us to believe. So the hysterics that they're allowing over there on

00:24:01.620 that morning show, I like, even, I cannot believe how far they're letting people go. CNN too.

00:24:07.660 They're almost as bad just today. Um, here's, was this CNN, Philippe Raines? He's Hillary Clinton's

00:24:15.200 top guy. This is last night on MSNBC. Listen to him. I'm going to give you a couple. Um, we'll get

00:24:20.740 to know Nicole Wallace too. Here he is speaking to the journalists, quote unquote, surrounding him

00:24:26.320 on MSNBC. Listen to this. Journalists, you and I might be sharing a cell and, and, you know,

00:24:31.600 six months from now and you know, but people laugh it off. It's not funny and they need to listen to

00:24:37.060 what he's saying. And they need to realize this time that there's an apparatus around him that is

00:24:44.000 more competent and more focused than 2016. So it says to Jen Psaki, yeah, it says to Jen Psaki,

00:24:53.340 you and I could be sharing a cell in six months because you know, Trump. So here's what, uh, I

00:25:01.080 mean, I know everybody has finally come to this conclusion. They always tell you what they're

00:25:05.680 doing. You know, it's like when they always go look there, you know what they're setting up. It's

00:25:10.340 like, no, I think I just saw you at that cookie jar. Um, so they always just watch Steve Bannon emerge

00:25:17.940 from prison and Peter Navarro just emerge from prison. Yes. Yes. Yes. And you know, you do have

00:25:25.420 Donald trucks, Trump saying lock her up, but then you have the evidence that he didn't when he could

00:25:31.260 have last time he didn't go. And why didn't he do it? Because he thought it was bad for the Republic.

00:25:36.660 That's why he didn't lock her up. I kind of disagree with that. If you committed real crimes,

00:25:42.340 you should be locked up, but he thought it was bad for the Republic. Okay. So you have that evidence

00:25:48.940 that he doesn't do it. And at the same time, you have your candidate talking about, we will hold you

00:25:55.700 responsible if you are giving mis and disinformation and defining mis and disinformation really as

00:26:02.620 something that disagrees with the medical community or with the government. Well, that's not

00:26:09.420 mis or disinformation. That's Americans questioning their government and demanding answers that make

00:26:16.420 sense. That, that is the quintessential aspect of, uh, of the first amendment question your government.

00:26:26.980 You cannot have the government being the arbiter of truth. Oh, we just accept what they say. What,

00:26:33.840 what kind of 1984 novel did you just walk out of? You don't do that. So if you look at their actions,

00:26:41.820 honestly, you know, you said you opened the show, uh, Megan with pretty hopeful, you know, I don't

00:26:49.780 think it's going to be that bad if they win. I'm with you on that. I, I don't think, but I can't tell

00:26:58.860 you nothing will happen if they get their way. They're not going to shut down shows like, Oh my,

00:27:04.960 they shut it down right in the middle of Glenn's sentence. The power they're already starting.

00:27:10.980 So my apologies to the audience. Clearly we haven't totally worked out our audio issues.

00:27:14.480 We'll take a break and we will do that, uh, with the one and only Glenn back their power. My God,

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00:28:50.540 Here with me again, Glenn Beck, author of Propaganda Wars. So let me reset that conversation with my

00:28:57.440 Nicole Wallace Sotman. You take it from there. She's equally hysterical. That soundbite from

00:29:02.360 Philippe Raines was from Jen Psaki's show, but here's Nicole Wallace, equally freaked out.

00:29:07.620 Michelle Obama isn't messing around anymore because with women's reproductive health care

00:29:13.120 and freedoms hanging in the balance next Tuesday, the stakes literally are life and death for every

00:29:19.020 woman in America. It's not hyperbole. It's not an exaggeration. It's what happens next week.

00:29:25.320 Literally, literally, literally life and death for every woman. And I don't know if that includes

00:29:32.220 trans women as well. I mean, that is. Yeah. Trans women are women, Glenn. That's it. That's the tweet.

00:29:40.160 Oh, yeah. No, I know that. I was just saying, you know, for the dumb hicks out there that just hate

00:29:45.340 this is. If you look at what they have been doing already, because this started with do we,

00:29:59.220 you know, are they going to shut down our voices because Donald Trump, they say, is a Nazi and he's

00:30:05.500 going to imprison people. In fact, Whoopi said, I think it was yesterday, that she was going to

00:30:11.240 say that Donald Trump would break up interracial marriages. This is this is mental illness. But if

00:30:19.760 you look at what Kamala is saying, you see what the Biden administration has done. They've already

00:30:25.840 silenced people by putting you behind a digital wall, a ghetto, a digital ghetto. They already are

00:30:32.760 silencing people's voices through algorithms. It's it's not a leap to think if the government

00:30:40.160 is the arbiter of all truth, which is so incredibly dangerous. If they're the arbiter of all truth,

00:30:49.320 anything that they disagree with has to go away, especially in a in a an emergency situation.

00:30:57.680 I talk about this in in propaganda wars. They are already doing this. The five eyes, which is the

00:31:03.880 spy agency of our five biggest allies, the five eyes, we already share information about our own

00:31:11.500 citizens. So England is spying on our citizens and giving us the information. We're spying on their

00:31:17.260 citizens and giving them the information. And they're colluding together. For instance, the first

00:31:22.680 time I saw this was in Brazil, trying to shut down voices. Anybody who disagrees with their immigration

00:31:29.520 policy or any of their other policies, shut them down. That's why the whole world now on the left

00:31:36.620 is going for Elon Musk, trying to shut Elon Musk down. I mean, this is this is Galileo in the tower.

00:31:45.400 This is insanity. He was the most popular man ever on the left because he was saving the planet. He was

00:31:52.380 so crazy about it. He said, we got to get off this planet and start a colony on Mars before we destroy

00:31:59.520 ourselves. How did that guy, the hero of the left, and I contend probably the the greatest scientific

00:32:07.480 mind of our of our generation, maybe of the century as an entrepreneur. How is he all of a sudden an enemy

00:32:17.260 just because he says? The side that I was on is lying to you. It's not telling you the truth about the

00:32:26.620 vaccines. It's not telling you the truth about the real threat to democracy. It's a cabal. And it's all in bed

00:32:34.200 with all of these countries. And they are trying to turn capitalism and the entire Western world upside down

00:32:42.220 inside out. How is that that guy who everybody loved now suddenly enemy number one? I can buy it with

00:32:54.420 the with the government, but it's the media and the government. It is the media is nothing but a

00:33:01.200 propaganda machine. It is nothing more than Pravda. You can't we can't keep calling it the mainstream

00:33:09.500 media. It is the propaganda industrial complex. It's in bed with the government and they don't

00:33:17.060 care. This is something I talked about years ago where I said there was going to come a time where

00:33:22.460 the government was going to be in trouble with the people. The media would be in trouble with the

00:33:27.840 people. The banks and central banks would be in trouble with the people and social media would be in

00:33:35.200 trouble with the people because they've all discredited themselves and they're going to need

00:33:40.180 each other. I should have added science and big pharma, but they're all going to need each other.

00:33:45.220 So they'll all collude with one another to make sure that none of us get our way. And that's what

00:33:53.140 it is happening. It just for the listening audience, this is outlined in Glenn's new book called

00:33:57.520 Propaganda Wars, How the Global Elite Control What You See, Think and Feel. This is why it's just such a

00:34:04.400 perfect thing to discuss on the day. The Bezos piece drops trying to defend his paper and saying

00:34:11.080 he will not be overtaken by unresearched podcasts. Let me tell you what some of his researched

00:34:19.600 Washington Post pieces have shoved at us over the last few years. OK, here's WAPO 2016 editorial board,

00:34:28.120 Donald Trump, Putin's puppet 2021. They had to retract two stories written in March of

00:34:34.380 17 and February of 19, which were based on the discredited Steele dossier. September 2021,

00:34:41.180 we conducted the largest study on masks and covid. They work. October 2020, a powerful argument for

00:34:49.440 wearing a mask in visual form. November 2020, wearing a mask isn't just about protecting other

00:34:54.780 people. It can help you and might prevent lockdowns. There was another one from

00:35:01.260 March of 2021 saying that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines being deployed right now are robustly

00:35:11.620 effective in preventing infection with the covid vaccine virus. That's his researched paper that he's

00:35:21.660 trying to protect from those of us in the disinformation, unresearched podcast space.

00:35:28.580 I know that's not true. I know the number of staffers you guys have at the Blaze. I've got the

00:35:33.580 best producers in the business working on this show, which is why we are supremely factual.

00:35:38.900 Jeff, sorry, but that's just not going to fly it. Everything that they have said from ESG,

00:35:47.080 the World Economic Forum, everything that starts out as a conspiracy theory, they say it's a

00:35:54.360 conspiracy theory. They run with that for a while and they're like, OK, well, it's true, but it's not

00:35:58.640 that. OK, well, we are doing it, but it's not as bad to. Yeah, it's good that we're doing it.

00:36:05.760 I mean, it's the same pattern over and over and over again. You can only do that so long.

00:36:13.440 And that's why they have to collude with one another and bring all the entire team to the

00:36:19.940 field. It's a machine and they have to bring the entire machine and bring it online.

00:36:25.400 They've really completed it. The only thing they haven't done yet, and they will if they win this

00:36:30.700 next election, is turn that machine on full blast. When that machine is really cranking,

00:36:37.800 our voices either go away or we are so hard to find that we can't make any kind of impact.

00:36:45.880 That's the digital ghetto.

00:36:48.160 Did you see today, Glenn, did you see the Ben Shapiro and Tucker tweets that were posted

00:36:54.700 showing that the New York Times is doing a deep dive on their alleged disinformation on YouTube

00:37:02.560 about the election in particular? And it feels and smells very much like an attempt by the New York

00:37:09.300 Times by its own statement, relying on media matters, a hate group against conservatives to try

00:37:18.300 to get certain voices silenced either before this election next week or right after, just in case

00:37:27.480 there are contests by the GOP side. This is just it smells bad. It's too coincidental.

00:37:33.980 So there have been meetings with the World Economic Forum and leaders all over the world about

00:37:39.340 what to do in emergency situations. Let's say you have a banking collapse, that there's a huge

00:37:49.180 2008 event that happens, or there's a war that happens, or there's great civil unrest, maybe because

00:37:58.360 an election goes horribly. In their own documents, it said voices that disagree with the banks or

00:38:07.740 governments or the United Nations or the World Economic Forum must be silenced in their own

00:38:15.320 countries as they will only add to the instability. So that means they're already planning. This isn't

00:38:23.300 Donald Trump. This is the left. This is the system that the left is embracing. Why do you think they

00:38:29.660 hate Donald Trump so much? It is because of America first. And what that means is we're not going to do

00:38:37.740 what the rest of the world is doing because they tell us to. We're going to do what's right for

00:38:44.300 America. And what's right for America may not be right for France, may not be right for Germany,

00:38:49.960 but we're different. We have the first, second, all the way up. We have all these amendments to our

00:38:57.660 constitution that you guys over in Europe don't have. And we're going to live by those rules.

00:39:03.660 That's why he must be stopped. They have worked for this moment for 50 years, maybe longer,

00:39:12.660 all building to this moment where they have captured the machine. They've captured the education. They've

00:39:19.680 captured the big business. They've captured the banks. They've captured the judiciary, everything.

00:39:26.140 But what's happening today is, and I know you've got the global perspective, but this is like

00:39:30.940 happening right now. You and I could be on the receiving end of one of these letters at any

00:39:35.100 moment. And I mean, I will say that Tucker handled it absolutely perfectly. He gets this. It's a writer

00:39:42.880 for the New York times by the name of Nico Grant, a technology correspondent for the New York times

00:39:48.140 based in San Francisco. I'm shocked, shocked. He reached out to at least these two saying,

00:39:53.400 I want to give you an opportunity to comment for an upcoming article that takes a look at how

00:39:56.540 political commentators have discussed the upcoming election on YouTube. And he says,

00:40:01.940 we rely on an analysis conducted by researchers at media matters for America, truly a hate group.

00:40:06.760 They've, they've tried to take us all down. All they do is sit around and watch our shows,

00:40:10.640 take clips out of context and circulate these dishonest clips or clips to people. So this guy

00:40:18.200 bites, New York times, Nico Grant bites. And he says, um, media matters identified 286 YouTube

00:40:26.700 videos between May and August that contained election misinformation, including narratives

00:40:31.880 that have been debunked or are not supported with credible evidence. First of all, if you listen to

00:40:38.100 Ben, Ben has been saying that Trump lost the 2020 election since 2020. Ben is not in any way

00:40:44.980 an election denier or however you want to phrase it. Uh, the example they use for Tucker is him

00:40:50.420 saying all the sadness we've seen after the clearly stolen election, all these bad things happen,

00:40:55.960 but people I know love each other more. So stolen could mean a number of things. I haven't heard

00:41:01.500 Tucker. In fact, Tucker was one of the ones who debunked the Sidney Powell claims about actual stealing

00:41:06.260 of votes. Um, but the point is they're trying to threaten these guys and potentially, potentially get

00:41:12.360 their YouTube shut down. Here's the Tucker response. He writes back to Nico Grant. So the New York times

00:41:17.980 is working with a left wing hate group to silence critics of the democratic party. Please ask yourself

00:41:22.400 why you're participating in it. This is why you got into journalism. It's shameful. I hope you're

00:41:26.880 filled with guilt and self-loathing for sending me a text like this. Please quote me grant. Thank you for

00:41:32.600 your prompt response. Would you like to address any of the points or questions above grant? You sound

00:41:36.680 like AI. Tucker, would I like to participate in your attempt to censor me? No, thanks. But I do hope

00:41:42.480 you'll quote what I wrote above and also note that I told you to fuck off, which I am now doing. Thanks.

00:41:54.900 Oh man, this is so nuts. I can't believe we're living in these days.

00:41:58.300 They're turning up the dial, Glenn. Oh, I know. And next week, if we are getting, uh, if, if, if,

00:42:05.920 if we don't have an answer that night and we won't, unless it's a landslide, um, they are going to start

00:42:13.060 doing everything they can. It'll be very, very dicey. We will be on the air. Like we always are

00:42:19.100 saying, keep calm, keep cool, but anybody does anything, they will take us and blame us. They will

00:42:26.360 take us off the air. I mean, one of the things Megan in, uh, propaganda wars, I lay out how we

00:42:32.820 do our research. I've never done that. Cause I've never thought it was really important for people

00:42:37.180 to know how to find, who do you trust? How do you find out if this story is true? We put this all in

00:42:43.120 there. Cause I think there is a chance our voices go away and the, and the average person must know how

00:42:50.200 to find the truth. It's really scary. I mean, this is absurd, like, because the New York

00:42:56.280 Times doesn't have power over your listeners or mine, but they do have power over YouTube.

00:43:00.740 They do. And if they do some long hit piece on how YouTube is, you know, fomenting violence,

00:43:06.400 thanks to election denialism. And it's part of a long pattern. See earlier article regarding Tucker

00:43:12.500 regarding Ben. I don't know how strong YouTube is. I don't have a lot of hope that they're going to

00:43:18.640 stand behind most conservative broadcasters. Um, this is part of an effort to get the muzzle put on

00:43:27.100 and it will be tightened just as soon as shit goes wrong next week. That is why Elon Musk is probably

00:43:34.380 the most important man in the world. And as, uh, Der Spiegel said of the, uh, a second, uh, on the

00:43:42.540 assassination list, they have to shut him down because he, he will make sure that that pipeline

00:43:50.780 stays open. Uh, if he can, that's why they're so mad at Elon Musk. He's empowering people to

00:43:59.240 actually speak their mind. How do you make progress if you don't have people questioning,

00:44:06.000 uh, what the truth is? And wait a minute, I disagree with that opinion. I think it's more like this.

00:44:11.740 That's how humanity grows. When you have a guy like Elon Musk and you want to shut him down and

00:44:18.980 shut all the voices, there is absolutely no growth. There cannot be progress. And that's what the

00:44:27.160 progressives want. Yeah. By the way, uh, those just tuning in, the book is propaganda wars, how the

00:44:34.800 global elite control what you see, think, and feel. And you can sense the consternation we mentioned

00:44:42.380 inside the Washington post because they won't endorse because they do have a sense of self

00:44:46.940 importance. Glenn, they are part of the elite. Bezos is correct here where he says, um, the Washington

00:44:53.220 post and New York times win prizes, but increasingly we talk only to a certain elite. And those elite are not

00:45:01.040 only their readers, but their workers. These are not journalists who have a healthy disdain for people

00:45:07.980 in power, at least not when they're Democrats, they are part of the elite. They're going to all the

00:45:13.480 cocktail parties. They, they require the right invitations from exactly the same people that

00:45:17.840 they're covering. And then you could hear it. I, we pulled just a little bit of the reaction when,

00:45:22.360 when Bezos made the decision not to endorse, here's Joan Walsh. She's, Oh,

00:45:27.120 I just canceled my subscription to at Washington post and you should too. Karen Atiyah, who is,

00:45:33.480 um, uh, she's been an insane lunatic on the Israel conflict. I mean, she, she's one of those who

00:45:39.560 thought this is what decolonization looks like on 10, eight, the day after that's Karen Atiyah

00:45:45.980 today has been an absolute stab in the back. What an insult to those of us who have literally put our

00:45:53.220 careers and lives on the line to call out threats to human rights and democracy.

00:45:59.580 That's cute here.

00:46:01.640 Right. She's, she's basically Marcus Luttrell.

00:46:05.200 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She is just, she's a hero.

00:46:09.260 Ambassador Susan Rice, uh, she tweets out, this is the most hypocritical chicken shit move from a

00:46:14.940 publication that is supposed to hold people in power to account. An op-ed by 18 post-opinion

00:46:21.260 columnists in the Washington post with more Woodward and Bernstein. Um, we, they've used the,

00:46:28.660 the newspapers, abundant resources to rigorously, rigorously investigate the danger and damage that

00:46:33.900 a second Trump presidency could cause. And, uh, that makes this decision even more surprising

00:46:38.780 and disappointing, uh, then there's Brian Stelter with this. Oh my God.

00:46:44.960 This is known by some scholars as anticipatory obedience. The idea that some people obey in

00:46:53.000 advance to curry favor with aspiring authoritarians. You see, you need to get, you need to get blessed

00:46:59.940 by the aspiring authoritarian. They had the editor at large, Robert Kagan resigned on Friday to more

00:47:07.240 jumped ship today. And nobody knows where this ends. They've lost some 200,000 subscribers

00:47:15.800 in their digital lane, which I said, they only had 2.5 million. Uh, and now you've got, you know,

00:47:22.760 person after person like Jen Rubin, Jen Rubin said, if, if, um, you had any self-respect out at the,

00:47:29.940 uh, the LA times you'd quit as a reporter, then her newspaper failed to endorse. Guess who didn't quit?

00:47:35.420 Jen Rubin. Okay. Of course she didn't. Of course she needs her paycheck and her influence,

00:47:44.060 Glenn, her influence. Right. Right. These, these people are just, they're crazy. You know, it's,

00:47:50.480 it's, uh, they're, they're so self, uh, self unaware. They have no idea. When you listen to NPR,

00:47:57.300 you know who they're talking to and they're not talking to the average person. They are talking to

00:48:02.620 another class of people that think in a certain way. And then they blame us for the bubble that

00:48:09.640 they're in the biggest bubble. I, I, I listen to the New York times. I read the New York times. I

00:48:14.880 read the Washington post. I know what they're saying, but they have no idea what we're saying.

00:48:20.560 They've never taken the time to truly understand why people are rising up to follow Donald.

00:48:28.520 They have no clue, no clue. Well, how do you reflect? Remember you are the fourth branch

00:48:36.840 supposedly of government. You're supposed to protect the people. They, I believe despise

00:48:43.580 the average person. They despise them. Um, they think they're stupid. They think they're nothing

00:48:48.820 but Hicks. They're backward. Uh, and so they don't protect. They're supposed to protect

00:48:55.360 us from the government. Instead, they're helping push more government on us. No, no, thank you.

00:49:04.600 No, thank you. Which one of us has changed. You know, you used to be with us saying that,

00:49:10.560 you know, you shouldn't cut off body parts of kids, uh, that, you know, having transgender,

00:49:15.280 you know, drag queen story hour in preschool would be a bad influence. I still believe that

00:49:22.880 what new information did you get press? Did you on the left get what new information that you

00:49:30.200 apparently didn't share with us? I think what, what happens is they just look at you and me over

00:49:35.320 here where we were. Well, I was too far left, but you know, maintaining sanity and saying, all right,

00:49:41.520 all right, far, right. Stand by, um, coming right back to Glenn Beck and we'll continue our all right

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00:51:08.320 and the family you love. I want to tell you that we have a special election night show planned for you

00:51:19.520 a week from tonight. We'll be live covering all the election results as they come in live on Sirius XM

00:51:26.380 Triumph Channel 111 and live as well on youtube.com slash Megan Kelly. We start at 8 p.m. Eastern time.

00:51:34.460 We've got all of your favorites right here in the studio and via remote. So all the guests that you love

00:51:40.520 on the Megan Kelly show, you will see here on the program that night as the results come in. We've got

00:51:46.740 political analysis covered. We've got data researchers coming in with, you know, to walk us through what

00:51:52.700 we're seeing and what it means. We've got cultural commentators. Uh, you will not see them anywhere

00:51:58.340 else. So come to the Megan Kelly show starting 8 p.m. Eastern time on election night, unless all hell

00:52:04.780 breaks loose prior to that, in which case, you know, us will go live. Um, and we can talk about it all

00:52:09.620 our goodbyes to Glenn Beck. And don't forget to buy his new book, propaganda wars, how the global

00:52:16.860 elite control what you see, think, and feel so timely. And in just a bit, we'll be joined by

00:52:23.540 Selena Zito reporter who knows Pennsylvania better than any other. And she'll give us an update as to

00:52:28.640 how it's looking there. Okay. But I want to keep going with a couple of the media meltdowns and other

00:52:34.040 things that we're seeing in the news first. So I mentioned Mika Brzezinski. I mean, honestly,

00:52:38.880 like at this point, it's like, she cries. It's a day ending. And why she crying? She's crying,

00:52:45.400 sir. There's no crying. There's no crying in politics. Name that movie. She's crying, sir.

00:52:53.620 I, you know, we meant to give you a little update on like our, my other move movie trivia clues. We

00:52:59.120 got to do that. Cause we actually did pull the clips for you to do the big reveals. Um, maybe we'll

00:53:04.160 do that in a post-show extra. Anyway, email me if you know that one, Megan at Megan Kelly.com.

00:53:09.420 So she goes over to the view and, uh, boy, did she let it rip. Watch sock 15.

00:53:17.160 Nobody gets a pass trashing America. Yeah.

00:53:20.500 Puerto Rican Americans. Nobody gets a pass degrading people. Nobody gets a pass degrading

00:53:27.220 legal migrants and terrorizing people. Nobody gets a pass threatening his enemies with using the

00:53:34.620 military against, against them. Nobody gets a pass on inciting an insurrection. Nobody gets a pass

00:53:42.220 on saying he fancies Hitler and wants to have generals like his. Nobody gets a pass on insulting

00:53:50.440 veterans and saying those who died for our country are suckers and losers except for convicted felon

00:54:00.580 Donald Trump. This is called normalization. Yes. This is the descent into fascism. If we so choose.

00:54:10.120 Okay. She, she says we're fighting 24 seven. We are in crisis. These are the final hours. We need you.

00:54:17.940 We need all of you. We need all of you to vote. Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, the descent into

00:54:25.140 fascism, normalizing January 6th. It's a day of love. I'll say it again and again and again,

00:54:31.580 normalizing enemy from within. Um, she goes on. She's very focused on abortion. We've got to wake up.

00:54:39.820 And then the defense of poor sweet Kamala. This is the continuing the Michelle Obama argument. Like

00:54:45.620 we are setting the bar too high. Read between the lines is because she's a person of color and

00:54:51.700 she's a woman. Uh, that's what we're doing only for her. These impossible standards. We expect her

00:54:56.360 to dazzle us. Michelle Obama said, and here's Mika Brzezinski on how she's done everything we've asked of

00:55:02.120 her. She has the experience and I don't know why, uh, Donald Trump can vomit racism and his supporters

00:55:10.300 clap. Meanwhile, she's asked to do everything in this campaign in three months. She has done

00:55:16.380 everything that's been asked of her and more. And she's trying with the help of others to take us

00:55:23.040 away from a very dangerous path. We're on the edge of a cliff. This is the final hour.

00:55:28.400 She's done everything we've asked of her. Like, like to put two sentences together without sounding dumb

00:55:34.080 to actually ask, answer questions that are pretty simple. She hasn't done that, Mika.

00:55:40.500 We've been really following it very closely here. I, I, I think I can safely say she hasn't done that.

00:55:47.560 It's a real problem and it's directly led to her crappy poll numbers and no amount of hysteria on

00:55:54.440 your part. Just take a deep breath, sister. Okay. As Hammer used to say, sim the mer, my dear,

00:55:59.600 sim the mer. I did not like it when he would say that. So there you go. Anyway, um, you need to

00:56:06.760 calm down my friend. Uh, so yesterday's claims today was all about the Trump. He's a fascist,

00:56:12.720 blah, blah, blah. Yesterday she was off on abortion and we're hearing this more and more. You heard the

00:56:16.620 Nicole Wallace clip. The stakes literally are life and death for every woman in America. It's not

00:56:24.140 hyperbole. It's not an exaggeration. And here's what's so sick. Here is what's so sick. Let me

00:56:30.640 tell you, she's talking about abortion. Let me tell you, Nicole Wallace, how are all of your

00:56:36.600 Democrat friends going to be able to run and get their abortions? If they've been murdered in the

00:56:43.420 street, if they've been killed on their college campuses by illegals, how, however, will they get

00:56:51.980 their abortions? If they're beaten to death during a rape by some criminal who's here because of the

00:57:00.700 open border or not in jail because of these soft on crime DAs that the Democrats keep installing.

00:57:06.320 Explain that to me because I know we're really super focused on being able to snuff out life in the

00:57:11.900 womb, but shouldn't we at least try to keep those women alive long enough to be impregnated so they can

00:57:17.220 make that decision? That also seems kind of important in this election. Team Trump has put

00:57:23.460 out two very effective ads over the past 24, 36 hours trying to get at this point. And one of them

00:57:31.300 involves sweet Jocelyn Nungare, whose name I mentioned in a discussion with Bill Maher on his show the

00:57:39.280 other night, um, we got into why I'm voting for, for Trump. And I told him, you know, among other

00:57:47.600 reasons, illegal immigration and the trans stuff. And because of people like Lake and Riley, who was

00:57:53.240 of course killed on the college campus down in Georgia by an illegal and Jocelyn who was 12 when

00:57:59.480 she was taken by two illegals and thrown over a bridge after two hours of torture. Her mother

00:58:05.920 has been an outspoken critic of the Biden-Harris open immigration policies and helped make this ad,

00:58:14.000 which we've cut in part, for Trump. Watch.

00:58:17.520 Under her being vice president of this country, my daughter's life was ripped away from her.

00:58:25.680 She had her entire life of head of hurt. Happy birthday, dear Jocelyn.

00:58:33.600 My daughter is six feet in the ground based off of policies that she allowed to keep.

00:58:41.200 Kamala Harris did have one job and she not only failed, not me, she failed my daughter,

00:58:49.920 she failed Jocelyn. You know, she was only 12. President Trump reached out, gave me his sincerest

00:58:58.960 condolences as not a former president, but just as a father, someone who cares. I believe Donald Trump

00:59:06.560 needs to be back in office. I can at least know that my next child will be safe in this country.

00:59:19.920 I can at least know that my next child will be safe in this country.

00:59:27.040 Incredibly powerful and incredibly sad. Let me replay what Nicole Wallace said on her show. Watch.

00:59:34.000 Michelle Obama isn't messing around anymore because with women's reproductive health care and freedoms

00:59:40.000 hanging in the balance next Tuesday, the stakes literally are life and death for every woman in America.

00:59:46.320 It's not hyperbole. It's not an exaggeration. It's what happens next week.

00:59:52.480 How about Jocelyn Nungare, Nicole? She never got to have the decision about whether she would keep

01:00:00.320 an unplanned pregnancy because she was murdered by two illegals who tied her wrists together and her

01:00:07.040 ankles together and threw her off a bridge at age 12. Okay, because you're right in the last part of

01:00:14.880 your statement. Women's lives are on the line, but it's not because of reproductive rights. If you

01:00:20.800 want an abortion in America, you can get it. Abortion has gone up, not down post Dobbs, which you would

01:00:28.800 know if you would pay attention. Women are getting abortions, a lot of abortions, and they're also dying

01:00:35.200 in the street thanks to illegals committing crimes. Young, beautiful women with promising futures ahead

01:00:42.080 of them. Do we care about Jocelyn, Nicole, Mika? And she's not the only one. Just yesterday, this news hit

01:00:53.760 from Volusa County, Florida. Here's what happened per the sheriff, and we're going to show you the video.

01:00:59.280 9-1-1 got a call from a woman ordering a pizza close to 4 a.m. What the dispatcher quickly figured

01:01:05.360 out was that the caller was actually in danger. It seems to have been a ruse to convince her attacker

01:01:10.960 she was calling a pizza when in fact she was trying to seek help, and she called 9-1-1. The police showed

01:01:16.160 up right as the woman was about to get raped. The defendant who we're about to show you is Luis Diego

01:01:24.400 Hernandez-Mancayo, who was in this country illegally and just applied for asylum the day before this

01:01:33.200 occurred. The day before this occurred. Now he's in jail, charged with attempted sexual battery,

01:01:39.040 battery by strangulation and false imprisonment with an immigration detainer from the U.S. Border Patrol.

01:01:46.880 Take a look at what happened to this poor woman thanks to this illegal.

01:01:50.480 Do we care about her, Nicole? Do we care about that woman and her right not to be raped in a field

01:02:19.280 by some guy who has no business being in this country? I am sick of the obsessive focus on

01:02:27.920 abortion. If you want an abortion, you can get one in America. It's actually pretty easy. It may not be

01:02:34.560 as easy as it was pre-Dobbs, especially for women in deep red states. That's not a huge news flash,

01:02:41.200 but you can still get an abortion. The women who are walking through the fields, the women who are

01:02:48.000 kids who make stupid decisions to go out and talk to the wrong guy because they still are too trusting.

01:02:57.520 Those are the ones we have to worry about. Those are the ones who get surprised by these criminals

01:03:03.680 who have no right to be here. And what Bill Maher said to me was, don't Americans commit these crimes

01:03:10.080 to. And I said to him, that's not the point. We have to deal with the Americans. They have a right

01:03:15.280 to be in this country. We don't have to deal with illegals from Venezuela like the ones who attacked

01:03:21.760 and killed Jocelyn. Trump will shut down that border. Was his attempt to do so perfect? No,

01:03:28.880 it wasn't. But I'll take 2.3 million illegals coming over four years, any day over 10.4 million

01:03:35.600 minimum. And Trump's right. It's probably double that. We know 10.4 does not include the gotaways.

01:03:41.360 I'll take that any day of the week, not to mention the soft on crime DAs who add to our problems. I'm

01:03:47.440 just, I'm over these women cloaking themselves in some sort of Gloria Steinem odor as though they're

01:03:53.600 our champions. They don't want anything to happen to us when we try to abort our babies. It's just

01:03:59.760 absolutely nonsensical. Um, okay. There's more Joe Rogan, a mystery has been solved.

01:04:07.840 He did want Kamala Harris to come on the show. And now he's announcing that she hasn't like officially

01:04:14.060 said no. What she said was, according to Rogan, she won't fly to Austin, Texas, where his show is

01:04:21.780 based. And she won't sit for three hours, which is what he does with his guests. She said, you come to

01:04:27.620 me and I'll give you one. How obnoxious is she? I, and then you've got people like, um,

01:04:35.400 former, uh, ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul out there tweeting at Joe Rogan saying, come on,

01:04:39.860 her schedule a lot busier than yours is Joe get on a private plane and go to where she is.

01:04:45.560 And Joe said, I really think my show works best from its home base. And she's got a wide open

01:04:51.120 invitation to come anytime. She won't do it. First of all, is there a person on earth who thinks

01:04:57.380 Kamala Harris can handle a three hour interview with Joe Rogan? I mean, she knows she can't her

01:05:01.680 team knows she can't. And so they said, okay, maybe just an hour to try to make it a deal breaker so

01:05:06.820 that he would be the one to say no. And they said, you have to come to us, which again, they're,

01:05:10.660 they're setting these impossible conditions so that he'll say no. And he's just standing there

01:05:15.320 saying, this is the Joe Rogan show. You do it here in my studio. I'll fly you down. Uh, we sit,

01:05:22.180 we chat for three hours. Like that's the show. I don't change the show for you.

01:05:27.120 You either want to do it or you don't. It's the way it's being offered to you. And she won't do it.

01:05:32.020 And it's just, I mean, Trump did it. You don't think Trump's busy. Trump did it on Friday. He was

01:05:36.320 late, which then he got panned by the media for to his Michigan rally because it went on for three

01:05:41.860 hours. And he sat there without complaint and did it. She won't do it because she knows she can't.

01:05:48.980 Oh, and by the way, she knows the ratings would not hold a candle to those that Donald Trump got.

01:05:54.080 There is a report out today that now JD Vance is going to do. Okay. I've got to say, it's a little

01:05:59.360 weird. It'll probably get great ratings, but it's a little weird to have the warmup act come after

01:06:03.160 the star. It's a, it's a little like should have gone the other way, but if I'm team Trump,

01:06:08.220 I'm probably doing that too. Anyway, right? Like get them out there, get an unvarnished view between

01:06:13.300 JD Vance and Joe Rogan's massive audience who've been misled about him, about Trump. Yes. So

01:06:20.740 she's not going to do it. And I don't think any of us is particularly shocked. She's not going to do

01:06:26.700 it. Now she did do an interview with Shannon Sharp. Who's got a podcast called, what is it?

01:06:33.420 Shea Shea. I don't know what she said. Club Shea Shea. Okay. So it's a no to Joe Rogan,

01:06:42.240 but it's a yes to Club Shea Shea where she knows with all due respect to Mr. Sharp,

01:06:48.280 she's not going to get any sharp questioning. Um, and I would submit to you all that it didn't go

01:06:55.220 particularly well. She brought her same awkwardness and discomfort to this interview that she brings to

01:07:01.720 all of them. I give you sought one. What's a typical day like for you now, once you've been

01:07:06.700 thrust into this, what time are you normally getting to bed? What time are you getting up?

01:07:10.320 And what's some of the activities that you do on a given day? I, I'm having, I'd probably estimate

01:07:16.120 14 hour, 15 hour days. Okay. Um, when I wake up, no matter how little sleep or how much sleep I've

01:07:23.620 had, I work out every morning. Okay. Okay. You know, you know, it's like mind, body and spirit,

01:07:29.360 right? 14 hour days. I mean, so what, like you wake up at seven and you go to bed at nine.

01:07:37.520 How is that like an impressive thing to offer when you're trying to say, Oh, you know, I'm so busy.

01:07:44.820 That's how busy she is. She can't go down to Austin to sit with Joe Rogan. Cause she's doing

01:07:49.460 14 hour days. I mean, I presumably she means out there, like out on the campaign trail and maybe

01:07:56.200 some padding after that, but I, I'm not sure to be honest with you. Um, then he asked her about

01:08:03.300 advice she'd give to her 18 year old self. And Oh my God, she dredged up one of our least favorite

01:08:09.540 Harris isms. Watch. I would probably encourage myself at 18 to remember that you have a lot of

01:08:20.800 people who are supporting you, even if they don't know you, you know, that's what I mentor a lot of

01:08:25.340 people, Shannon. So this is what I'm really reflecting on. We're not alone in that room for it. And that

01:08:29.560 you must therefore walk in that room, chin up, shoulders back, knowing we're all there applauding

01:08:35.100 you. Um, when I mentor young women and men, I remind them that you are often going to be told,

01:08:42.860 well, it's not your time, not your turn. You're too young. Nobody like you has done this before.

01:08:50.580 And I tell them, you know, don't you ever listen to that. I like to say, I eat no for breakfast.

01:08:56.800 I don't hear. No, you asked me what I eat for breakfast. I eat no for breakfast. I don't hear it.

01:09:02.240 Right. And, um, that's part of what are my life lessons that I try to share.

01:09:08.980 I eat yogurt, but okay. And I feel the need to keep telling everybody every day. I know for

01:09:15.320 breakfast. Yeah. Tough guy. We've basically got another Schwarzenegger right here. That's how tough

01:09:21.680 she is. You got Rambo is now running on the democratic ticket. I know for breakfast. Okay.

01:09:27.880 Do you, cause you're, you're too chicken shit to even answer a question directly. So I'm kind of not

01:09:32.800 feeling the tough guy routine, but love to take you at your word. Speaking of her word,

01:09:38.980 we did of course get another recitation of her favorite canned lines, more Harris isms. Take a

01:09:46.400 listen to Sot Six. Americans in general, regardless of their race or gender, we have ambition. We have

01:09:53.340 aspirations. We have dreams, but not everyone has access to the opportunity to let some actually

01:09:59.700 accomplish that. And back to the way I was raised. I know that the children of the community are the

01:10:06.540 children of the community. Look, I did it. And it means, you know, trying to cook for an elder to

01:10:13.500 make something they feel like eating right. To help them put on a sweater, a sweater. She got it

01:10:18.940 nailed. She has no original thoughts. She's got her few canned stories. She looks for how she can jam

01:10:24.780 it into any question she's asked. And she makes damn sure she will never tread new ground. She is so

01:10:31.340 risk averse and not a deep thinker. So there's no ability to just think on your feet. I mean,

01:10:37.880 you know how many interviews anybody in the public eye has given? And yeah, you got to come up with

01:10:42.760 new stories to keep things interesting because you don't want the same audience just hear the

01:10:46.540 same stories over and over and over again. Of course there'll be some repetition, but like any

01:10:49.900 person who like continues to lead an interesting life, like let's say if they become the vice president

01:10:54.420 should have more than enough material. She either has a bad memory, doesn't stay in touch with like

01:11:01.480 herself and her reactions to her life experiences, or she's just incredibly timid and thin. I think

01:11:07.980 it's the last thin intellectually. Um, it's on, on display and virtually evident every interview she

01:11:15.160 gives, which is why she cannot possibly do something like Rogan. Whereas we discussed yesterday, Trump went

01:11:19.940 from what's happening to the whales in the water because of the windmills. There's some alliteration

01:11:25.140 for you to what's happening in the UFC to do we have aliens to how did you defeat ISIS to tell us

01:11:33.240 about the white house, um, enemy within all this, like everything, everything. She, there's not a chance

01:11:40.740 she could do it and she won't do it. Um, then she had this little ditty. This is on a different,

01:11:46.840 uh, campaign stop where she went to Ann Arbor, Michigan and she's done this once before that I

01:11:54.040 know of. We, we saw a clip of it last week and I was like, what is she doing? It failed miserably.

01:11:57.940 And she's so clueless. She, she did it again. Like, you know, like a comedian, they'll try out a bit.

01:12:05.140 And if it fails, then they eliminate it from their set. Sometimes I'll make fun of Doug in front of like

01:12:12.980 our friends and he'll give me a hard time and I'll say, what do you mean? That's part of my bit.

01:12:17.980 Then he'll tell me to eliminate it from my, from my act. Anyway, she doesn't understand when you get

01:12:24.140 negative feedback, you should remove it from your bit. It didn't work. And man, oh man, it didn't

01:12:29.100 work again in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Let's watch SOT 9. Okay. Now I want each of you to tell your own

01:12:45.180 name. Do that. Cause it's about all of us. It's about all of us. Nothing. What is she saying?

01:12:55.220 They're shouting, Kamala, Kamala. And then she says, now I want each of you to shout your name.

01:13:00.840 So everybody's out there going, Megan, the Steves and Debbie Kelley. Like what? Why would she think

01:13:08.460 that that would be, you could hear the crowd's confusion. There's just like kind of a pause.

01:13:12.940 There's like murmuring. No one's doing it. They're like, what is she asking? She's so dumb.

01:13:19.040 She's just not good with people at all. And there's no reason to think she's good without the people

01:13:24.280 either. She doesn't seem to be particularly good behind the scenes either. While she was in

01:13:30.440 Michigan, she went to a semiconductor plant. And this moment reminded me of so many of the SOTs

01:13:38.720 we've seen of her. SOT is sound on tape. It's short for, it's a soundbite, where she tries to explain

01:13:46.060 to us what outer space is. Talk about school buses like this. Try to explain that Ukraine

01:13:57.100 is a country. That, Kamala, showed up at the semiconductor plant and the following happened.

01:14:05.300 Here is actually a harvested hue rod. We actually do grow it. So this is what it looks like when it

01:14:11.560 comes out. Do not touch it. Do not touch it. Please do not touch any of the following. It's very sharp.

01:14:19.900 Yeah, it's very sharp. So with that being said. Oh God, it's shiny. It's a shiny. That's literally

01:14:26.780 what you say when you're trying to mock somebody. Why would she do that to herself? It's shiny. Can I

01:14:32.360 touch it? No, do not. By the way, in her defense, where are her briefers? Like, you know, you think

01:14:37.600 that her staff would say, Hey, Madam Vice President, we're going to go in there. You don't want to look

01:14:41.040 stupid. So like, don't, don't touch any of this stuff. It could actually hurt you. What? She doesn't

01:14:45.340 listen. This is a theme in her life. This is why half her staff left more, more is like 90% of her

01:14:51.400 staff left in the first term, um, in the Biden presidency, because she doesn't, she didn't do her

01:14:57.360 homework. This is when the left wing press was still reporting on her. Honestly, she didn't do her

01:15:01.340 homework. Then she would yell at everybody for her being unprepared. Here she is again. I'll bet

01:15:05.660 you they did tell her don't touch it. It can hurt you. Can I touch it? It's shiny. That's going to be

01:15:11.160 the person in charge of the nuclear football. I don't think so. I don't, I, I don't think so. Um,

01:15:17.320 okay. Before we bring on Selena, I wanted to say another word about the Bill Maher appearance,

01:15:22.560 which was very fun. I went out to LA on Friday and, uh, did his show and I appreciated him inviting me

01:15:29.040 because it's a chance to speak to a new audience who probably doesn't watch the show. And I think

01:15:34.100 speak some sense to them on items that they don't normally hear discussed. Bill, uh, I appreciate

01:15:41.380 gave me the form to do it and it, it was great. We had some spicy moments and we had some things on

01:15:46.740 which we agreed. And I'm going to show you a couple of sound bites on that. The thing about Bill is

01:15:53.360 he's a non woke liberal, not leftist liberal, but he definitely has some serious hatred for Donald

01:16:02.420 Trump. Some say he has TDS. He loathes the man. So he's kind of an interesting combination of things.

01:16:10.840 And we got into it about Trump, you know, being a fascist and Trump, his economy. And I'll show you

01:16:18.020 just a little bit of, um, the latter in top 25. Trump has incendiary rhetoric. There's no question,

01:16:24.320 but we have four years to judge him by. And the country was going pretty well when Trump was in

01:16:28.860 there. Unlike the four years we've had under these two. Well, I mean, I could argue with that too.

01:16:34.000 Actually, if, if, if, if, if, if Trump had this economy and I could go through all the stats,

01:16:43.380 the stock market is through the roof, wages are up or as high as it was under, under Trump.

01:16:48.540 Well, first of all, Trump inherited somebody else's economy. That's what, that's what Barack

01:16:53.000 Obama would like. Well, it's true. Okay. It's really on day one, everything changed. So just

01:16:57.780 walk me through it. So, so Trump has Obama to thank his economy, but Biden can't thank Trump for

01:17:03.360 anything. Okay. Let's get off this. Um, because it's not what I really want to get to.

01:17:13.380 Um, you see where I'm going with it, right? Like that's TDS, right? That's what's happening

01:17:21.780 there. And I get it. Bill and Trump have a very, very negative history, uh, between the two of them.

01:17:27.460 And, you know, a lot of people don't like Trump, but ideally when you're making a presidential

01:17:32.100 decision, you can check, you know, your personal feelings about a guy and, and make a call. And I

01:17:36.360 think Bill thinks he's doing that. Bill thinks I, he told me on air, he thinks I will regret voting

01:17:40.920 for Donald Trump and defending his quote, fascism, which I told him, I don't think,

01:17:45.560 I don't believe any of those charges. And I, I think the Democrats are the ones who are locking

01:17:50.080 their enemies up. You know, to think about it, it's like who, who called parents domestic terrorists

01:17:55.740 because they stood up at their school board meetings to fight for their children to go to

01:17:59.100 school at all. Nevermind, not wearing masks. That was the Biden administration, right? Like who

01:18:05.120 locked up people who worked in the prior administration? That was the Biden administration.

01:18:10.000 Speaking of Bannon and Navarro, like the only two people who, who have gone to prison for

01:18:15.900 congressional contempt. They didn't put Eric Holder in jail. He did it. He did the same thing

01:18:20.200 those guys did. They didn't put the current attorney general in jail. He did the same thing,

01:18:25.140 right? And, um, they, they only, that was the Biden administration who prosecuted

01:18:30.920 multiple cases against their chief political rival. That was the Biden Harris administration,

01:18:37.340 Donald Trump. I saw something in the daily mail the other day, trying to fact check me on this

01:18:42.260 thing. That's not true. They did that. The Biden administration wasn't being had. Hello, daily

01:18:45.560 mail. They have two federal prosecutions against Donald Trump, two, two DOJ investigations against

01:18:51.200 him. And then two state investigations against him. And the DOJ sent its number three official,

01:18:55.820 Matthew Colangelo to go run herd on the one that was happening in the state of New York.

01:18:59.600 So don't tell me the Biden administration was not involved in any of these.

01:19:02.540 All right. They brought in this outside counsel, Jack Smith to go after Donald Trump so that he

01:19:08.260 could have an air of, I had nothing to do with it. Joe Biden did, but there were many reports about

01:19:13.360 how he was aggravated on how he wanted it to go faster. That Jack Smith was under pressure from

01:19:18.260 the white house to put the pedal to the metal so they could get these things tried before the election.

01:19:22.500 There's plenty of evidence that shows his fingers or fingerprints are all over it. So

01:19:27.320 that's this administration, not Trump. Trump did not do any of that. I don't believe this fascist

01:19:34.360 claim. I'm sure this audience doesn't either, but it's everywhere. So, so Mar and I tussled about

01:19:39.300 it. Um, when I was on the show, I think there's some of that in Sot 34.

01:19:47.480 Trump did strategic stripes strikes that had people on their heels. They didn't know what

01:19:52.480 he might do to them. And we did not have Putin invade Ukraine. It's what he might do to us that

01:19:57.100 I'm a little more worried about. I just, I just, I feel like you. What if we've had four years of

01:20:04.860 Trump? We've had four years of Trump. Yeah. Trump did not go after his political enemies with the

01:20:09.200 Department of Justice. Right. That was Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Well, we had four, we had Hitler

01:20:13.860 in the thirties and things were okay. And then we had Hitler in the forties and it got way worse.

01:20:17.800 Just because we had him. He hit his Hitlerism the first four years and it's going to come out in

01:20:22.220 full force. He tried to do things like that. He tried to do dictatorial fascist things and he was

01:20:27.200 stopped. Joe Biden has flouted the law when it comes to these, these student loan, uh, giveaway

01:20:33.360 programs. He's flouted the law, the law, Supreme court opinions that told him he didn't have the right

01:20:37.800 to do it. And he openly said, I will get around the Supreme court. He did it with respect to rent

01:20:42.320 abatement programs, the same exact thing. And then he and Kamala Harris unleashed this Department

01:20:47.640 of Justice against their political enemy, Donald Trump, their number one chief rival for the

01:20:52.380 presidency. Okay. Well, is it funny? Cause they did it. You want to talk fascism? That's fascist.

01:21:01.600 So the audience wasn't with me, but that's fine. I don't, I don't care. Uh, it was important that

01:21:07.160 they hear it. And last but not least, Bill and I got into the trans issue and I think he and I are on

01:21:11.780 exactly the same page when it comes to that issue. His audience, however, seemed unaware. Watch.

01:21:18.900 Um, we are chopping off the healthy body parts of young children without a 100% we are doing that.

01:21:25.300 Well, we are definitely doing that without any inquisition. That's what it is. So I don't know

01:21:29.260 what the owing is. I don't, I don't either pay attention because I'm about to give you a truth

01:21:32.900 bomb that now kids who are suffering from bullying or who have been sexually assaulted or who are going

01:21:37.620 through normal puberty and feel uncomfortable in their bodies will say to their parents, I'm not

01:21:42.120 sure. Maybe I'm gender confused. They will send them into a psychiatrist or psychologist who are

01:21:46.520 told by our organizations, the American psychiatry association, all the others that run their

01:21:51.500 licensing. You must affirm a firm is the only standard. And so the child gets told you're right.

01:21:57.580 You are secretly a boy or vice versa. And the child gets put on puberty blockers into cross sex hormones,

01:22:03.220 which sterilize a child and deprive the child of any chance of sexual pleasure for the rest of his

01:22:08.960 or her life. We're talking about nine, 10, 11 year olds who cannot give informed consent.

01:22:14.100 Then they have body parts chopped off by a medical establishment and by parents who mean well,

01:22:19.620 but believe in these doctors and they shouldn't. And when they inevitably get past the awkwardness of

01:22:25.160 puberty or what have you, and they want to turn around and detransition, those who love bomb them on

01:22:30.520 Reddit saying, come on in, the water's fine. Abandon them. They are depressed. They have

01:22:35.680 changed their bodies forever in a way that is irreversible. And we are all sitting back saying,

01:22:41.720 it's a remote issue. As Kamala Harris said, it's not remote. It's the issue of our time,

01:22:47.820 both with respect to children and women's rights.

01:22:53.460 And I think Bill was in complete agreement with me on that. And I think his audience

01:22:56.660 maybe learned a thing or two. Some actually came up to me after the fact and said it was

01:23:01.500 eyeopening. And I really hope that's true. And for that, I thank Bill Maher because he does have

01:23:06.060 a much different audience. I think it's obviously much more left leaning, but I think he's got

01:23:09.700 conservatives who watch him too. He's very funny. His jokes and his new rules are absolutely hilarious.

01:23:14.960 He still wants to make you laugh irrespective of your political differences with him. He's not in

01:23:20.440 it for the applause. He really is in it for the laughs, which I appreciate. And after it was all said

01:23:24.640 done, we all went back to his green room where there's a bar and we had a drink and we talked

01:23:28.400 and we laughed and we had a good time. And I appreciated the invitation and Bill's willingness

01:23:34.020 to have conversations with people who disagree with him, with whom he disagrees. It's one of

01:23:40.180 the reasons why he's still an important voice, very important in our American politics. So in any

01:23:46.780 event, in case you missed it, wanted to give you the highlights and give my thanks to him. So we're

01:23:51.960 going to take a break. We're going to be back with Selena Zito and we're going to learn all

01:23:54.940 things Pennsylvania and what you need to know about how it's going there, looking there so

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01:26:06.240 Details apply. One week to go till election day. We're going to take you to the epicenter and

01:26:15.140 that's Pennsylvania. It has 19 juicy electoral college votes and it's where both the Trump and

01:26:22.960 Harris campaigns have spent the most time and resources. Last night, former president Barack

01:26:27.060 Obama was campaigning for Harris in Philadelphia and had yet another condescending message for men

01:26:32.160 daring to vote for Donald Trump. And I've noticed this, especially with some men who seem to think

01:26:40.220 Trump's behavior is somehow a sign of strength. You know, sort of the macho, fake macho thing. And

01:26:48.420 you know, I'm here to tell you that's not what real strength is. It never has been real strength

01:27:00.200 about working hard, real strength about taking responsibility. Real strength is about telling

01:27:07.020 the truth, even when it's inconvenient. Real strength is about being confident enough to treat

01:27:15.840 everybody with dignity and respect. Real strength is about helping people who need it and standing up

01:27:27.480 for those who can't always stand up for themselves.

01:27:34.340 Joining us now to break down the latest in Pennsylvania is a woman who knows it

01:27:38.240 very well. She knows the politics there perhaps better than anyone. Washington Examiner's national

01:27:43.380 political reporter, Selena Zito. Selena, great to have you back on. So how do you see things right now

01:27:49.220 in Pennsylvania? Well, thanks for having me on. And I am so glad that you brought up Obama's

01:27:56.560 appearance in Philadelphia. He had an appearance in Pittsburgh just a couple of weeks ago with the

01:28:02.100 same sort of condescending tone. And and I just think people need to remember something important about

01:28:10.100 my state in that in 2008, Barack Obama won my state handily. I was almost 11 percentage points.

01:28:16.500 But by 2012, he he went from aspirational and hope and change and kept the New Deal coalition

01:28:23.040 as part of his coalition. He shed that coalition for the the ascended coalition and became very

01:28:30.680 condescending, very mocking and and sort of that same tone that you just heard in in that speech.

01:28:38.740 And he left 286,000 voters on the table. They just did not vote for him again in 2012. Didn't vote for Mitt

01:28:48.680 Romney either. They just stayed home. And so I think it's a really big mistake to bring him in to

01:28:56.800 Pennsylvania for the closing because it's such a negative tone that he is sort of selling for the for the

01:29:07.500 final message. So I just want to make sure that I said that. But, you know, in this state, we've seen

01:29:13.320 the polls. It's tied. It's tied. It's tied. However, I would give I would rather be Donald Trump in these

01:29:20.820 closing days than I would be with with Harris. She has struggled to in this state. She's not particularly

01:29:29.080 a good fit for this state. And and it has showed in the events that she has had, which have been almost

01:29:38.280 all invite only. There's not a real sense of what the enthusiasm is. And and and the message,

01:29:47.420 you know, has been has been not one that earns voters trust. Right. The skepticism of her in

01:29:56.200 Pennsylvania is her positions on a number a number of things. And let's just let's just focus on energy

01:30:03.020 at this moment. Energy in natural gas industry. It's it it employs directly and indirectly a couple

01:30:11.060 hundred thousand people. That's a lot of people. And she keeps saying, oh, well, I changed my mind on

01:30:18.100 fracking. Well, if you changed your mind on fracking, then why have you not gone to President Biden and

01:30:27.420 said, hey, we kind of need to lift this ban we put on liquid natural gas because, you know, it creates

01:30:34.640 uncertainty and uncertainty in the industry. It makes you skeptical as to what you're going to continue

01:30:42.520 to do with the industry. It impacts the workers, but it also impacts farmers. Farmers collect royalties

01:30:50.800 for their leases on their land from gas wells. You are also impacting the farmer community. So it impacts

01:30:58.740 our two of our biggest industries in our state, which is agriculture and energy, which are intrinsically

01:31:04.980 related. What's going on, Selena, with respect to I mean, Pennsylvania last time changed its voting

01:31:12.500 rules to allow all these mail in balloting. And then they allowed the mail in ballots to be counted,

01:31:18.660 even if they arrived after Election Day, if they were postmarked after Election Day. It was there was so

01:31:24.600 much stuff about Pennsylvania that still has Trump upset. Has any of that been cured, changed or just give

01:31:32.900 us a view of the voting setup in Pennsylvania right now? So I believe that most of it has been cured

01:31:41.740 and settled that you have to have, in fact, I think there's going to be a Supreme Court ruling today,

01:31:48.540 this afternoon, on that, whether you can accept a ballot that comes in, that's not in its security

01:31:56.660 second envelope, that doesn't have a signature and or doesn't have the correct date on it. I think we'll

01:32:03.420 know more about this this afternoon. But it seems to tend to be that you got to stick within the rules

01:32:09.480 with everything in this cycle. And Republicans have done an extraordinary job, not just in getting

01:32:19.140 voters who have been reluctant about mail in balloting to participate, but also the amount of new

01:32:28.280 registered Republicans in my state has been astounding. They're now under 200,000 plus difference between the

01:32:38.160 amount of registered Republicans to register Democrats. That number used to be a million.

01:32:44.840 That's amazing. Yeah, we had Scott Pressler on the show who was talking about how he and others helped

01:32:49.740 do that. All that legwork has been going into this race long before November 5th.

01:32:55.360 You're talking about Trump's appeal versus Kamala's appeal to regular Pennsylvanians. It does occur to me

01:33:02.000 that with the suburban women, you know, people, you know, who live kind of where my mother-in-law

01:33:07.460 lives right outside of Philadelphia, she's doing better. But with the more working class, middle

01:33:12.400 class Pennsylvanians, Trump's got the advantage. And John Fetterman, who is U.S. Senator from the state

01:33:18.320 of Pennsylvania, the Commonwealth, he talked about Trump's strength in your state just the other day,

01:33:24.520 this weekend. Listen to Stop 45. Everybody thought that Clinton was going to just kill him. And of

01:33:32.640 course, no. And people thought that in 2020, Biden was going to have like five, five points. And I'm

01:33:39.380 like, no, this isn't going to be a five point race here. And it wasn't. And it was incredibly close.

01:33:45.260 And that same thing has been replicated now. And the only thing that's changed is he's more popular

01:33:52.660 even. And hey, you know, you have Elon Musk standing right next to him, too. And so I'm not

01:33:59.860 sure what else has changed, except if anything, Trump has become more capable to withstand whatever,

01:34:09.960 you know, whether it was the trials or the assassination or all of those things. But here he is.

01:34:17.200 So you agree with that? Yeah, absolutely. You know, it's really interesting. Back in 2016,

01:34:24.880 John and I had the same conversation. He was the mayor then of Braddock. So now many people paid

01:34:30.460 attention to his insights about the election. But he said the exact same thing to me in an interview

01:34:37.580 in 2016. And he's not wrong. I would argue that Trump's support has grown. You know, it is interesting

01:34:46.740 to me that this election cycle may be decided. And I've written about this by a cosmetologist,

01:34:53.540 a welder, a fireman, someone with a small HVAC company, right, as opposed to the educated elites

01:35:02.400 in the cities of Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. And I also caution to assume that suburban women are going

01:35:11.380 to vote for Harris when a lot of suburban moms, I've had conversations with them, have really deep

01:35:18.940 concerns about all this sort of gender that you were talking about with with Mar and and also

01:35:27.160 biological males participating in in their girl sports. I was the mom of a of a very good soccer

01:35:37.220 player. And and the goal was that, you know, if if her talents and her dedication continued,

01:35:43.840 then she would maybe go to college and it would help offset the cost for me as a single mom.

01:35:50.360 And so there was a lot of weekends that I didn't have because it was at a soccer tournament. There

01:35:55.660 was a lot of money that I could have used for something else that went into our equipment or hotels

01:35:59.960 or traveling, whatever it may be. But, you know, you talk to soccer moms privately or or moms that

01:36:07.800 are of swimmers or whatever the case may be. If they're dedicating all this into their daughter

01:36:13.220 being competitive with other girls and then have to go competitive with a biological male,

01:36:20.220 their their worldview is a lot different than people assume it would be, you know, and it would

01:36:27.300 be towards the Democrats. Pennsylvania is, you know, the epicenter of this election. And one of

01:36:35.320 the controversies around the way you all vote in Pennsylvania is like many states, they allow the

01:36:42.200 mail in ballots, but they will not count any of them until Election Day, the mail in or the absentee

01:36:48.860 ballots until Election Day. And so this is one of the reasons why many people believe, Selena, we're not

01:36:54.080 going to know who won the election on next Tuesday because you don't have enough people to count,

01:37:00.400 you know, the perhaps million who knows how many ballots are going to come through hundreds of

01:37:06.000 thousands of envelopes that are sitting there in some bin. So there's a lot of counties that have

01:37:12.980 really gotten it right from the get go. And I would point to Allegheny County there. They have those

01:37:19.080 mail-in ballots ready the minute the polls close. They're done. They're counted. They immediately go

01:37:24.600 online. The other can and each county does it differently. However, a lot of the other counties

01:37:30.000 have now adopted the same system that Allegheny County has. And I suspect that the county will

01:37:38.420 probably be waiting on forever will be Philadelphia because for some reason or another, they never they

01:37:45.160 they they they are challenged to to do that efficiently. Maybe it'll be different this year.

01:37:49.960 It's like Lucy with the football. Yeah, you're kind of hoping it will having Charlie Brown with the

01:37:54.960 football. You you hope that that that that happens. But you can see that in a lot of the sort of not

01:38:01.640 big name counties where they've gotten their act together and and they are ready to have that done

01:38:09.220 when the when when the polls close. Yeah. Well, that would be that would be spectacular.

01:38:17.700 They are saying, as you know, as goes Pennsylvania, we'll go this election. So as somebody who's been,

01:38:22.980 I mean, as close to this election as you can get, you were literally on the ground, almost shot by a

01:38:28.800 bullet at the Butler, Pennsylvania rally with Trump. That was incredibly dramatic video,

01:38:34.640 which we talked about before. What do you what is your gut tell you is going to happen? I won't hold

01:38:40.600 you to it. My gut tells me that I would rather be Trump than Harris at this moment. I think that

01:38:48.860 the working class voter has moved from the Democratic Party. It used to be part of the New Deal

01:38:54.960 coalition. It is in the center. These are voters that also voted for John Fetterman and Josh Shapiro,

01:39:02.940 but find that Harris's policies are too far left. But also, she has not proven to them

01:39:10.440 the competency that they expect from someone running for the presidency.

01:39:17.300 And what about her ground game, Selena? Is that, you know, we hear about her vaunted

01:39:20.740 ground game and she just has more bodies getting people out to the polls and getting them registered

01:39:25.560 and so on? Well, Democrats, they didn't do a good job then because the Republicans out registered

01:39:33.180 voters by a lot. And the Republicans sort of have this ground game that no one's talking about. It's

01:39:41.220 sort of done by by non not the RNC, but by other entities. And I can tell you, they're knocking on

01:39:51.800 doors in my area all the time. And, you know, there are them or my phone is getting pinged a

01:39:59.300 thousand times a day. You cannot express to you how much how difficult it is to live in the state

01:40:04.400 of Pennsylvania in terms of if you want to watch the Hallmark Channel and all you see are worth a

01:40:09.420 class. Yeah, you can't buy yet space. It's all been sold to the campaigns. I have a ton of friends

01:40:16.140 and relatives in Pennsylvania. They're all saying the same thing as you. Like, they can't wait for this to

01:40:20.940 be over. They want to just go vote early just so they can get the canvassers off their backs. Like,

01:40:25.220 I voted. Leave me alone for the love of God. But voiding the television commercials, that's we haven't

01:40:30.740 figured out that challenge other than go streaming because you're finding find a way around.

01:40:35.000 Selena, thank you. Hopefully we'll talk to you more as as election night draws draws close because

01:40:40.780 it's all going to come down to you guys. All the best. Sounds great. Thanks.

01:40:45.040 And don't forget, we will be covering that election live right here on Sirius XM Triumph Channel 111 and

01:40:53.120 on YouTube.com slash Megan Kelly. You can follow all our coverage live with all your Megan Kelly show

01:40:58.880 favorites. Why would you spend time with these mainstream media outlets that hate you? We would

01:41:05.780 love to have you and it'll be a great and interesting night. You can trust us not to mislead you.

01:41:09.660 We're back tomorrow with our friend Charlie Kirk. He's one of the guys that is making sure there's

01:41:16.120 a ground game that works for Trump. And he'll give us a look at how everything is going with early

01:41:21.160 voting and his turning point ground game. Plus, we will recap tonight's big closing message from

01:41:27.640 Kamala Harris. We didn't even get to that. The closing message is going to be on the ellipse.

01:41:31.880 Kamala Harris is there. She's going to have some. They said she had to up her permit request from

01:41:36.720 20,000 to 40,000 attendees. One thing I will tell you, whether it's on Trump's side or her side,

01:41:43.180 and you've heard this before, I assume, do not read into crowd sizes for anything, for anything.

01:41:51.540 Even if you think Joe Biden really lost in 2020, his crowd sites had like eight people at them,

01:41:58.600 half the country, at least, you know, 75 million people voted for Joe Biden. And I remember those

01:42:03.400 Mitt Romney crown sizes in 2020. They were stunning. He lost. So don't read too much into it. We will

01:42:10.460 watch, however, what she says and have full analysis of it for you tomorrow. I predict we will be hearing

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