The Megyn Kelly Show - Sham Political NYC Sentencing, and Trump and Obama Laugh While Kamala Snubbed, with Viva Frei and Jesse Kelly

00:00:00.500 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:12.120 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Friday.

00:00:17.000 Well, the Democrats finally got what they wanted, or so they think.

00:00:20.780 Donald Trump is now officially a, quote, convicted felon.

00:00:23.520 He's also our next president, so you should probably include that term in your celebratory smashes of the football on the left.

00:00:34.080 I mean, great. And by the way, one of the reasons he is going to be our next president is because of all this nonsensical lawfare.

00:00:43.100 So go ahead. I think it's the ultimate Pyrrhic victory.

00:00:46.480 In a New York City courtroom this morning, Judge Juan Mershon handed down the sentence of an unconditional discharge to President Trump.

00:00:56.220 This means no jail time or any other punishment, and many believe the conviction will eventually be thrown out on appeal.

00:01:01.800 It will be thrown out on appeal. Mark my words. It's going to be thrown out on appeal.

00:01:07.420 It actually stands a very decent chance of being thrown out by the New York appellate court right above this guy, Mershon.

00:01:14.980 And I believe the New York State Court of Appeals, like this is eventually going away.

00:01:20.100 So enjoy it while you can. You can say convicted felon right after you refer to him as Mr. President.

00:01:25.800 And it will be a limited period of months, and then it will get reversed, and so will that label.

00:01:31.240 And you helped get him elected. So with this lawfare, I hope that makes you feel good at night.

00:01:37.380 Like, I'm not exactly sure why the Democrats feel so smug about this.

00:01:41.920 None of this stopped the prosecutor of Donald Trump in the New York State Supreme case, Joshua Steinglass, from droning on.

00:01:51.720 This man is ridiculous about just how terrible of a man he thinks Donald Trump is. Watch.

00:01:58.720 The defendant's conduct before, during, and after this trial also merits consideration.

00:02:07.080 Instead of preserving, protecting, and defending our constitutionally established system of criminal justice,

00:02:14.780 the defendant, the once and future president of the United States,

00:02:19.240 has engaged in a coordinated campaign to undermine its legitimacy.

00:02:23.220 Far from expressing any kind of remorse for his criminal conduct,

00:02:30.000 the defendant has purposefully bred disdain for our judicial institutions and the rule of law.

00:02:37.700 Such threats are designed to have a chilling effect,

00:02:42.420 to intimidate those who have the responsibility to enforce our laws.

00:02:47.760 Put simply, this defendant has caused enduring damage to public perception of the criminal justice system

00:02:56.720 and has placed officers of the court in harm's way.

00:03:01.200 Sentencing the defendant permits this court to enter judgment,

00:03:05.860 to cement the defendant's status as a convicted felon.

00:03:09.440 And that's what it was all about.

00:03:13.800 That the nerve of this guy to say it's Donald Trump who caused damage to the institution,

00:03:23.440 to the court, to the justice system, with his reaction to this case.

00:03:28.960 The absolute nerve.

00:03:32.040 Talk about putting the cart before the horse.

00:03:34.620 You, sir, are to blame for all of that.

00:03:36.580 You, Donald Trump, called it out for the joke,

00:03:41.660 the absolute insulting joke of a proceeding that it was.

00:03:46.940 You caused the lack of trust in an institution that had been mostly previously respected.

00:03:54.680 Even President Biden, when he pardoned his son Hunter,

00:03:59.600 called out how he doesn't trust the justice system.

00:04:02.640 So please spare me.

00:04:05.240 This whole thing was rushed to sentencing by a judge who was determined to be able to call Trump

00:04:13.960 a convicted felon for that reason only.

00:04:16.260 Because it's been about politics from the start.

00:04:20.400 These losers wrapping themselves in sanctimony.

00:04:25.780 Alvin Bragg was out there.

00:04:27.160 You know, the will of the jury must be, must be heard, must be done.

00:04:32.660 We, you know, who am I to interfere with the jury process?

00:04:36.740 The judge, too.

00:04:37.960 Like, we just, you know, we're just like public service servants who have to do what the jury said.

00:04:43.520 Otherwise, it'd be a real insult.

00:04:45.040 Give me a break.

00:04:46.120 You two orchestrated this from the beginning.

00:04:48.060 You've been working hand in hand to make sure you could just get this label on him.

00:04:53.780 You wanted it so much earlier.

00:04:55.760 I know, sweethearts.

00:04:57.700 It was so important.

00:04:58.920 You desperately wanted it earlier so that maybe it could affect the election.

00:05:03.180 But you failed.

00:05:04.340 You got your conviction.

00:05:05.220 No one gave a shit.

00:05:06.800 Even the left-wing media recognized that this case was a joke.

00:05:09.860 So you failed utterly in doing anything other than creating sympathy for Donald Trump and making yourselves look like idiots.

00:05:15.920 And then rather than just saying, like, let's walk it back.

00:05:21.000 We've had enough embarrassment.

00:05:23.080 You rushed to try to get this declaration as though it was going to be meaningful.

00:05:29.580 And it means nothing other than you've additionally irritated the next president.

00:05:35.320 Let's see how that works out for you.

00:05:36.520 I look forward to watching it, frankly.

00:05:38.520 And it probably created more sympathy for many people in looking at Trump, seeing how unfair this is.

00:05:44.120 You know, you got CNN's top legal analysts saying this whole thing is unconstitutional.

00:05:49.400 These charges are probably unconstitutional.

00:05:51.400 Okay, so it's not going well for you, Mr. Steinglass, or for you, Judge Mershon.

00:05:57.480 In addition to making this sentencing hearing happen, which didn't have to, and Steinglass and his boss, Alvin Bragg, pursuing it all the way up to the Supreme Court, because Trump tried to stop the sentencing, saying, for the same reasons you can't try a president for official acts because he's immune, thanks to that Supreme Court ruling.

00:06:16.640 You can't come after a president-elect like this and make him sit for sentencing.

00:06:20.460 He's got other things he's got to do for the nation.

00:06:22.300 And ultimately, the U.S. Supreme Court said in a ruling, no, we're going to let this play out.

00:06:28.340 The harm to you is minimal.

00:06:30.300 It was Amy Coney Barrett and Chief Justice Roberts who did not side with the four other conservatives costing Trump that decision.

00:06:37.000 And she's getting more and more like Roberts every day, and that's not a good thing in any event.

00:06:44.140 So he had to sit for it, and he had to be sentenced.

00:06:46.540 But that's why they wanted it so desperately today.

00:06:49.340 There was no reason.

00:06:50.800 Judge Mershon had said, I'm not going to impose jail time.

00:06:55.300 He telegraphed.

00:06:56.200 It's basically, I'm just going to slap him on the wrist.

00:06:57.520 The whole point of doing this was so that we can call him a convicted felon.

00:07:00.440 We really, really worked so hard to be able to call him a convicted felon.

00:07:03.520 So that's what we're going to do.

00:07:04.540 So, okay, you got it.

00:07:07.940 Now, President Trump was allowed to appear over Zoom, which is unusual.

00:07:13.000 That's great.

00:07:13.600 Thank you for accommodating the next president of the United States.

00:07:15.820 He's down there meeting with Zuckerberg and Bill Gates, all of whom have come in and bent the knee.

00:07:23.540 Do it.

00:07:24.400 Good.

00:07:25.480 Jeff Bezos left his prostitute-looking wife for two minutes, or soon to be, to go over and bend the knee.

00:07:32.160 Have you seen the pictures of this woman down in St. Barrett?

00:07:34.040 I'm sorry.

00:07:34.760 She dresses like a prostitute.

00:07:37.260 They're all bending the knee for Donald Trump.

00:07:40.000 So he's busy, Judge Mershon.

00:07:42.060 He doesn't have a whole lot of shit ton of time to deal with you and your political theater.

00:07:46.780 But he appeared via Zoom, and then the judge did something he hasn't done before in this whole process, adding to the theater, which was he released the audio.

00:07:56.240 That's how we just got to hear Steinglass.

00:07:58.980 None of this thing was on camera or on audio, remember?

00:08:01.600 We didn't get to hear audio of Stormy Daniels.

00:08:04.580 We saw the sketch artist painting of her.

00:08:07.560 And she took the stand.

00:08:08.180 But today, Judge Mershon really, you know, he waxed poetic about the case from the bench.

00:08:17.420 And I think he knew he was going to say something truly profound that America would want to hear.

00:08:21.640 And maybe they'd want to hear Steinglass talk about what a shit Trump is and what, like, a really important case this was and how poorly the justice system has been treated by Trump.

00:08:34.220 So they released the audio.

00:08:37.900 Meantime, that included the audio of Donald Trump, who was participating in the whole thing from Florida, where he said that he is completely innocent and that this case was a political witch hunt from the start.

00:08:53.060 Watch.

00:08:54.520 It's been a political witch hunt.

00:08:56.720 It was done to damage my reputation so that I'd lose the election.

00:09:01.300 And obviously that didn't work.

00:09:02.780 I'm totally innocent.

00:09:05.120 I did nothing wrong.

00:09:07.160 They talked about business records and the business records were extremely accurately counted.

00:09:12.660 I had nothing to do with them.

00:09:13.800 Any of that was done by an accountant.

00:09:15.500 This has been a weaponization of government.

00:09:17.640 They call it lawfare.

00:09:19.080 Never happened to any extent like this, but never happened in our country before.

00:09:24.060 And I'd just like to explain that I was treated very, very unfairly.

00:09:28.240 Judge Mershon, who, again, you know, he could have done this, not at all, could have done this with no audio, but or he could have done this if necessary after Trump's presidency.

00:09:42.480 But no, rushed it on.

00:09:44.440 He could have given the evil Trump who interfered with an election.

00:09:50.100 That's what Steinglass said.

00:09:51.220 He made this from a stupid business records case in which he wrote down legal expenses for money he gave to a lawyer to make a nasty complainant go away.

00:10:00.640 That sounds like a legal expense to me.

00:10:02.960 They turned it from a business records case into a hush money case into a federal election interference case, one that the feds refused to bring.

00:10:14.300 He could have given him up to four years in prison.

00:10:16.400 That's serious business.

00:10:17.700 You interfere with an election.

00:10:19.340 The scheme that he was actually accused of, lying to the American public, committing fraud so that they wouldn't know what they were electing.

00:10:26.480 It was all lies.

00:10:28.160 All of it was freaking lies.

00:10:30.640 So, but if you follow their logic, he deserved four years in prison, right?

00:10:36.020 So why did we have a DA go in there and say, I consent that there should be no prison time?

00:10:41.840 Because they had to.

00:10:43.180 They had to in order to get this thing held before the inauguration because they knew Trump would appeal it.

00:10:51.620 And one of the reasons the Supreme Court said, we're not going to hear this right now.

00:10:54.620 We're kind of not interested.

00:10:55.580 Trump can take this case up on appeal.

00:10:57.320 By the way, it's going to be reversed.

00:10:58.920 They didn't say that, but I'm sure it will be.

00:11:01.640 One of the reasons the Supreme Court said, we're not going to take it right now.

00:11:04.400 There's no urgency is because they said, look, the judge is telegraphing.

00:11:07.260 He's not getting any jail time.

00:11:08.420 So we don't need to get involved yet.

00:11:10.040 So that's why the prosecutor and the judge were both like, there'll be no prison time.

00:11:14.700 Please let us hold our hearing in which we get to label him.

00:11:17.400 We want the big CF label.

00:11:20.080 Don't interfere.

00:11:22.860 OK, so he could have given him four years in prison.

00:11:25.160 He said in advance he wouldn't and he didn't.

00:11:28.400 And he he said he was distinguishing between Trump, the citizen and Trump, the president.

00:11:35.640 To be clear, the protections afforded the office of the president are not a mitigating factor.

00:11:44.640 However, they do not reduce the seriousness, seriousness of the crime or justify its commission in any way.

00:11:53.180 The protections are, however, a legal mandate, which pursuant to the rule of law, this court must respect and follow.

00:12:04.120 Therefore, this court has determined that the only lawful sentence that permits entry of a judgment of conviction without encroaching upon the highest office in the land is an unconditional discharge,

00:12:18.980 which the New York State legislature has determined is a lawful and permissible sentence for the crime of falsifying business records in the first degree.

00:12:28.680 Therefore, at this time, I impose that sentence to cover all 34 counts.

00:12:37.360 Sir, I wish you Godspeed as you assume your second term in office.

00:12:41.200 Please.

00:12:41.540 Thank you.

00:12:42.500 Fuck you.

00:12:43.600 Sorry.

00:12:44.640 Give me a break.

00:12:45.960 I wish you Godspeed.

00:12:48.260 Bullshit.

00:12:49.620 This is such a farce.

00:12:51.940 Joining me now to react to all of this is attorney and Rumble host, Viva Frye.

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00:14:09.340 Viva, great to have you today.

00:14:10.940 This is just so...

00:14:12.800 Outrageous, is it not?

00:14:15.360 It's when you appreciate what they did.

00:14:18.060 And they took a 30...

00:14:19.380 They turned what would otherwise have been a misdemeanor bookkeeping error, a time-barred misdemeanor,

00:14:25.540 into a 34-count felony charge indictment conviction to then give an unconditional discharge just so that they could call him a convicted felon.

00:14:34.780 It was a scam from the beginning.

00:14:37.060 The judge...

00:14:38.560 The only reason he gave the unconditional discharge is because any other sanction would have been...

00:14:42.800 Obviously, immediately appealed or unenforceable because Trump takes office in a week and a half.

00:14:46.580 And so they get that header.

00:14:47.820 The only question now is, these scoundrels, what do they do with it?

00:14:50.960 Do they go for an impeachment 3.0 now that they actually have a crime to claim?

00:14:55.420 Is the high crime and misdemeanor to go impeach him a third time?

00:14:58.320 But it's corruption of the highest order, and you pointed it out.

00:15:02.760 The audacity of them to accuse Trump of being the one who discredited the legal system.

00:15:07.340 These people are Darvo narcissists.

00:15:09.760 Darvo, deny attack, reverse victim and offender.

00:15:12.060 The victimizers pretending to be the victims and pretending that the victim is the one who caused the distrust in the system when it's everything that they have done from day one.

00:15:19.640 To make people realize, the legal system, at least in New York, is so corrupt, you've got to get your stuff and pack up and leave.

00:15:25.980 Because nobody is safe in New York.

00:15:28.820 First of all, I love how you pronounce misdemeanor, misdemeanor, like it's a contestant in one of Trump's beauty contests.

00:15:37.140 A misdemeanor sounds like...

00:15:39.220 That sounds like I'm misgendering the misdemeanor.

00:15:42.640 A misdemeanor sounds like a feminist demeanor contestant.

00:15:46.640 I think it's the Quebec way of doing it.

00:15:49.480 But it was a time-barred misdemeanor at worst.

00:15:53.780 And they don't even know what they predicated the felony predicate acts on.

00:15:57.960 Like, you asked the jury, what did you convict him on?

00:16:00.120 I don't know.

00:16:00.660 It was a bookkeeping error.

00:16:02.540 How did you bump it up to a felony?

00:16:04.040 Yeah.

00:16:04.660 But when the judge said, you don't even have to identify which of the underlying felonies this predicate act was based on,

00:16:12.540 you know that you're dealing with an outcome-driven process.

00:16:16.640 And not a justice-driven process.

00:16:18.420 I just thought that that judge, and as much as he's an idiot, a totally corrupt hack,

00:16:22.360 whose daughter, worth mentioning every time we talk about him,

00:16:24.920 his daughter was fundraising off of this prosecution.

00:16:27.560 That discredits the system.

00:16:28.980 But I thought he had a little bit more savvy to say,

00:16:31.160 all right, after the Supreme Court came down and said you can't admit evidence that is a juice from presidential acts,

00:16:36.700 he would say, okay, I've got to vacate the verdict and blame the Supreme Court.

00:16:39.760 No.

00:16:40.200 Yeah, because we definitely did that.

00:16:41.560 Without a question.

00:16:43.720 And in his ruling, he says, look, none of the evidence related to presidential acts

00:16:47.720 because it was all in furtherance of a private act of fraud.

00:16:50.560 Bull crap.

00:16:51.260 But even if it were, he says, the error would be harmless because of the overwhelming evidence of guilt.

00:16:56.560 I mean, this is like, this is communist level.

00:16:58.720 Find me the man.

00:16:59.480 I will find you the crime.

00:17:00.700 Presumption of guilt, not innocence.

00:17:02.020 But I thought he would have the good sense to say, okay, I can vacate this verdict, save my own face on appeal because it will get overturned on appeal.

00:17:08.980 I agree with you on that.

00:17:09.980 And blame the Supreme Court.

00:17:11.200 No.

00:17:11.700 He went full throttle.

00:17:13.240 And Amy Coney Barrett, the turncoat that Robert Barnes on our show Sunday night, warned about.

00:17:18.340 She was the turncoat.

00:17:19.640 And they say, because this corrupt hack of a judge undertook informally not to impose a prison sentence,

00:17:26.300 we'll go ahead and allow the sentencing.

00:17:27.660 He could have given Trump money in that sentence, and they should not have allowed the judge to proceed with the sentencing.

00:17:32.880 I agree.

00:17:33.300 The Supreme Court should have stepped in here to say, this is not going to happen.

00:17:37.040 We just issued a ruling on presidential immunity.

00:17:39.520 We just issued a ruling saying that you can't even use evidence of a president's official conduct against him in a criminal trial,

00:17:45.280 which was definitely done in this case.

00:17:46.920 And we are staying this proceeding until we are able to handle the appeal or until post-presidency,

00:17:54.100 until post-presidency, in which case it can follow the normal course.

00:17:56.940 Yeah, and not just that also.

00:17:58.940 And shame on you, Murchant, for not respecting our Supreme Court ruling.

00:18:02.240 This is a Supreme Court, at least with Roberts and Amy Coney Barrett, who have no respect for their own rulings.

00:18:07.500 They've made that, you know, public now.

00:18:09.460 They issued a ruling.

00:18:10.620 It said, you know, presidential immunity for core constitutional acts,

00:18:14.200 presumption of immunity for in-the-middle acts, and no immunity for personal acts.

00:18:17.700 But you cannot adduce as evidence, evidence that was adduced as presidential conduct,

00:18:21.800 which correspondence with chief of staff and press secretary obviously was on its face.

00:18:26.380 And so what they basically said is, we have no respect for our rulings either.

00:18:29.840 Go ahead, Murchant, and take a judicial dump on our ruling and go ahead with your sentencing

00:18:35.100 because you've undertaken not to jail him.

00:18:37.620 We'll let you do it.

00:18:38.660 They have discredited themselves.

00:18:40.800 And we see, unfortunately, the true colors of Amy Coney Barrett.

00:18:44.380 I'm worried about her.

00:18:47.140 She's a little squishy, and it's, you know, concerning.

00:18:50.940 I'll tell you, just like as a female who leans right, kind of sick of like the female conservatives

00:18:58.040 who get appointed to the Supreme Court, Sandra Day, O'Connor, now Amy Coney Barrett, like being

00:19:03.100 too squishy.

00:19:04.160 Why can't we just get like this judge Aileen Cannon down in Florida?

00:19:08.560 Get a female Alito on there.

00:19:10.700 Get somebody with some, you know, rhetorical balls who will hold as fiercely to conservative

00:19:18.200 principles in the judiciary as the left wing does, as Elena Kagan does to the liberal principles.

00:19:25.440 Why are the women so squishy when they get up there on the right?

00:19:27.700 Well, Roberts is squishy as well, so who knows how he identifies?

00:19:31.820 But the bottom line, and she's also, she's young.

00:19:33.620 She's there for a long time.

00:19:34.660 But you imagine the rationale, they said, yeah, we issued this ruling that the evidence

00:19:38.480 was inadmissible if, but because the judge announced his intention not to jail, we'll

00:19:43.860 let him go through a sentencing?

00:19:45.200 No.

00:19:45.820 That was weird.

00:19:47.020 Yeah, the judge desecrated the ruling of the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court said,

00:19:51.640 we don't really care.

00:19:52.560 That's what it's worth.

00:19:53.380 And now you get your convicted felon title, so you can do Lord knows what with.

00:19:58.800 I do wonder if-

00:19:59.680 But that's an interesting, okay, let's talk about that.

00:20:01.140 You raise an interesting point, as you always do, Viva.

00:20:03.660 You know, is it more than just the label?

00:20:08.280 Do you think the next move, because here we are, what, January 10th, we got 10 days

00:20:12.880 until the inauguration.

00:20:14.580 Do you think they actually do try yet another maneuver of insurrectionist, or I don't know

00:20:20.060 what they're going to say, but you know, they've done a lot of legal gymnastics to try to get

00:20:23.640 him and stop him from taking the oath.

00:20:26.360 Well, Megan, remember the legal gymnastics.

00:20:28.220 Back in impeachment 1.0, that was the quid pro quo, where Democrat, left-leaning, lawless

00:20:34.380 lawyers and members of Congress said, we don't even need a crime to impeach.

00:20:38.320 It's a purely political process.

00:20:39.660 We can impeach him for the color of his tie.

00:20:41.960 And that was to get around the fact that there was no crime committed with that quid pro quo

00:20:45.840 conversation.

00:20:47.460 Second time-

00:20:48.400 Yeah, the perfect phone call.

00:20:49.500 There was no crime there.

00:20:50.680 And so they had to say, well, impeachment, sure, it says for other high crimes and misdemeanors,

00:20:55.200 but it's a political process.

00:20:56.780 He doesn't actually have to commit a crime.

00:20:58.160 That's what they said in 1.0.

00:20:59.400 In 2.0, for the insurrection, they then had at least on its face, on paper, a crime.

00:21:05.060 Now they have a confirmed crime, a convicted felon.

00:21:08.560 So now they don't have to make the argument, oh, it's not a political process.

00:21:11.460 This is now a judicial one.

00:21:12.500 We've got the convicted felon status so we can go for impeachment 3.0 because we can

00:21:17.040 now point to the actual crime upon which this impeachment 3.0 might be based.

00:21:22.260 They are that stupid and that kamikaze reckless in their pursuit of opposing Trump.

00:21:27.880 Jamie Raskin, who was infamously caught on that mic saying, we might have to declare civil

00:21:34.000 war conditions when we disqualify Trump because of the insurrection clause.

00:21:37.840 Well, Supreme Court came down 9-0 and said, no, you can't do that.

00:21:40.280 So let's find another way to do it, either impeach him before he takes office or impeach

00:21:45.060 him right after he takes office.

00:21:46.540 I don't think there's the political will to do it or the public support to tolerate it,

00:21:50.920 but they're doing something.

00:21:52.180 You're dealing with scoundrel scheme artists.

00:21:54.980 And the only question is, what are they scheming about now behind closed doors?

00:21:58.320 This is one indication of what they could do with this convicted felon because I think

00:22:02.160 it is a little bit more than just the title for the next 10 days.

00:22:06.400 Because, I mean, they don't control the House and they're not going to control the House.

00:22:10.660 They didn't before and they don't in the new Congress.

00:22:13.060 So they can't impeach him.

00:22:14.900 They don't have the votes to impeach him.

00:22:17.480 And they certainly don't.

00:22:18.360 Now they don't control the Senate either.

00:22:19.680 So they're not going to be able to, even in some weird world in which the House lost

00:22:22.800 its mind and impeach Trump, they could never get a conviction.

00:22:25.380 So I don't know that the move is political in the body of Congress or if there's some legal

00:22:31.920 maneuver in a court, they still think they could pull off.

00:22:34.960 That was another thing I'm wondering.

00:22:36.740 When Ratskin comes out and says, we got to disqualify him for insurrection, maybe they're

00:22:42.560 going to try something to, they had to certify the Electoral College results because they didn't

00:22:47.280 get the conviction in time for that.

00:22:49.380 Maybe they try to disqualify him now for being a convicted felon.

00:22:52.080 I mean, it's settled law, but settled law has never stopped them from trying.

00:22:55.020 So they're definitely going to try something else.

00:22:58.960 The only question is what?

00:23:00.400 And for the, in the meantime, we talk about the, on this front, we, they are trying to

00:23:04.240 get the Jack Smith report of just how bad Trump was, you know, he's, he's, he owes this

00:23:12.360 report to Joe Biden or to Merrick Garland.

00:23:15.080 And Trump has so far successfully stopped that report from getting released.

00:23:19.980 He's like, these cases have been dismissed.

00:23:22.760 So just stop.

00:23:24.060 But there is some saber rattling that he's going to submit it.

00:23:28.820 And we're going like that.

00:23:30.500 Now you're back in the insurrection lane and, you know, a possible legal challenge on, oh,

00:23:36.820 no, no, no.

00:23:37.580 Just because the case got thrown out doesn't mean he's not an insurrectionist who is not

00:23:41.980 capable of taking office.

00:23:43.580 Well, especially since the impeachment process, you know, it doesn't require a conviction of

00:23:47.880 a high crime.

00:23:48.460 It just requires one to have allegedly have been committed.

00:23:50.980 And so they say, well, sure, it got tossed at the court level.

00:23:53.920 But this report shows insurrectiony behavior.

00:23:57.180 It's so preposterous and unlawful and lawless that they want to release portions of a report

00:24:02.580 that was produced in the context of charges that should never have been brought, that

00:24:07.020 themselves were predicated on evidence that was falsified by the FBI that raided with

00:24:11.800 authorization to use lethal force.

00:24:13.900 The former president and leading presidential candidate at the time, this is, I don't know

00:24:19.120 if it's communist is the right word, but it is lawlessness of the highest order.

00:24:23.240 The people who need to be behind bars and need to be tried, convicted in jail or the

00:24:27.400 Jack Smiths of the world or the Merrick Garland's of the world or the Mayorkas, just because

00:24:31.480 I dislike him as well, but are the rascals of the world, the ones who publicly announced

00:24:35.400 after a fair trial, they would get in any realm of a lawful universe convicted.

00:24:41.100 But Jack Smith, the hired mercenary who was unlawfully appointed from the get go, citizen

00:24:46.640 Jack Smith now wants to release portions of a report because Merrick Garland says it's the

00:24:51.880 interest of the public's best interest to see portions of a report that was prepared in

00:24:55.940 a bogus, lawless prosecution.

00:24:58.400 Garland is a criminal as well, in my humble opinion, hashtag no defamation.

00:25:02.400 I believe the man is a criminal and he's, he's, he's deliberately trying to undermine justice

00:25:06.420 and doing everything he can to lay whatever groundwork they can do to either frustrate,

00:25:10.740 attempt another impeachment.

00:25:11.900 Hey, go a third time.

00:25:13.360 They broke the glass once and twice.

00:25:15.040 They've turned the impeachment process into Halloween candy.

00:25:18.640 Just go for a third time.

00:25:19.620 What's, what's to lose?

00:25:21.380 Well, I mean, unless they're going to use that Jack Smith report, if they get their hands

00:25:24.720 on it to, to, again, say he's an insurrectionist and therefore shouldn't be allowed to take

00:25:29.880 the oath of office, then it's utterly pointless.

00:25:32.160 Then we're back in the land of what are you doing?

00:25:35.280 You lost.

00:25:36.480 He won the presidency.

00:25:38.460 No one gives a shit.

00:25:40.680 No, but they're trying to burn it down so they can rule over the ashes or at least piss

00:25:44.120 on the ashes.

00:25:45.140 The only, the only silver lining in drawing our attention back to the report and January 6th

00:25:50.140 is it's a reminder that Trump takes office on January 20th.

00:25:52.880 The first thing he does is pardon all of the Jan Sixers, pardon all of them.

00:25:56.660 They made a mockery of impeachment process.

00:25:59.060 Joe Biden has desecrated the pardon process.

00:26:01.640 You'll pardon the actual victims of lawfare and political persecution.

00:26:05.180 But no, they are, they are the, the, the, a group of people.

00:26:08.520 They will pop the ball if they don't like the fact that they're losing the game and storm

00:26:11.580 off the field.

00:26:13.740 Let's go back to just for one more minute, this, this warning by this judge, because we're

00:26:18.860 going to hear a lot more about this, sorry, by this prosecutor, that there's the, he's

00:26:22.940 mad that Trump is remorseless.

00:26:25.760 I mean, it's just absurd.

00:26:27.340 He's really, he's talking about him.

00:26:29.360 I heard Trey Gowdy saying this, who's a criminal prosecutor, now a Fox news anchor saying he

00:26:33.720 was talking about him.

00:26:34.580 Like he's like, they're weighing the death penalty.

00:26:37.140 You know, he's shown no remorse for his crimes.

00:26:39.700 You're on.

00:26:40.120 It's like, okay, this is a misdemeanor business records case.

00:26:43.620 Stop it.

00:26:44.320 And Trump has maintained his innocence, which is real from the beginning.

00:26:48.540 He's no remorse for the people he's hurt.

00:26:51.080 Who again?

00:26:51.900 Who are those people?

00:26:53.840 Then, then going, going on to he's spread disdain for our institutions and the rule of

00:27:00.180 law.

00:27:00.680 He's caused enduring damage to public perception of the criminal justice system.

00:27:06.900 I mean, the gall, Viva, the gall of these guys to put that on Trump.

00:27:12.780 Megan, it's confession through projection is they are accusing their adversaries of what

00:27:17.660 they are guilty of, either for creating confusion or for just projecting off their own guilt.

00:27:23.980 Audacity.

00:27:24.980 You know, you know what takes what is compromising the judge's daughter working, raising money

00:27:30.760 for Kamala Harris, Democrat PACs, Adam Schiff off of this prosecution.

00:27:36.000 What, what, what, what caused millions, tens of millions.

00:27:38.320 Judge Juan Marchand, you know, she's talking about her dad having disdain for Trump and

00:27:42.880 his use of social media.

00:27:44.740 It's, it's just confession through projection.

00:27:46.720 There's no other way to describe it, but they get out there and they get the soundbites

00:27:50.040 out there.

00:27:50.520 So your joy reads, your, the views of the world can run with the soundbites.

00:27:54.920 Can you imagine what did Trump do that violated or undermined anything as relates to the constitution,

00:28:01.060 exercise freedom of speech to, to, to, to raise awareness of the corruption of the court

00:28:05.040 system.

00:28:05.400 They gagged Trump in the context of this case to prevent him from raising awareness for

00:28:09.460 the corruption and then fault him for talking about the judge's family.

00:28:13.980 Well, maybe if the judge's family wasn't intimately involved with this entire prosecution process,

00:28:18.260 he wouldn't be talking about the judge's family.

00:28:20.460 And so they fault the victim for raising awareness of the corruption, but this will get overturned.

00:28:26.240 I think it does go nowhere and people see it for what it is, but it's just, it's a wholesale

00:28:30.420 desecration of the, of one of the pillars of a civilized society, which is why, you know,

00:28:34.580 New York is turning into a place where everyone should pull their assets, pull their investments

00:28:38.640 and don't drive through when you're driving from Montreal to Florida.

00:28:42.240 Yeah.

00:28:42.840 I mean, it's not only, of course, this prosecution against him, but the civil case brought by

00:28:47.640 Letitia James for, you know, now cost Trump half a billion dollars, which is currently being

00:28:54.100 laughed out of the appellate courts.

00:28:55.840 I mean, that, I don't, I think when all is said and done, absolutely none of these will stand.

00:29:00.520 Fannie Willis got bounced.

00:29:01.960 Jack Smith was forced to dismiss both of his federal cases against Trump.

00:29:05.880 The New York case is what it is.

00:29:07.500 We've discussed that for the last half hour.

00:29:09.180 And then there's the Tish James civil case against him.

00:29:12.720 The E. Jean Carroll thing, unfortunately, is not going anywhere.

00:29:15.240 That one's going to stand, I think.

00:29:17.380 But the Tish James one is going away.

00:29:19.900 They might reduce the quantum on the E. Jean Carroll case.

00:29:23.580 But you want to talk about undermining the faith in the judicial system.

00:29:27.020 You have, I call him, colloquially, New York nipple judge Engeron, the guy who's posting

00:29:31.140 topless selfies on his website page.

00:29:33.600 Ew, it's true.

00:29:34.220 It's horrendous, where he's bragging about the orders that he's issuing against Eric

00:29:39.220 Trump, where he's on record, on video, 10 years ago, talking about the tools that he

00:29:43.740 has at his disposal to come to the judicial findings that fit with his preconceived biases.

00:29:48.720 I mean, but what's amazing is, in as much as Trump in 2016 revealed the insidiousness

00:29:54.660 of the corruption of mainstream media and the fake news, he has done so as well in revealing

00:29:58.880 the wholesale weaponization of all levels of prosecution, Department of Justice, court

00:30:04.600 systems of certain states.

00:30:05.820 The real question is, he gets into office, he's got to right some of these wrongs and

00:30:09.420 reestablish some faith in the system, and he's got to pick the proper course of action

00:30:12.800 to make that happen.

00:30:13.560 Hmm, I can't wait to see what he does.

00:30:16.480 A word before I let you go, as you say, Juan Marchand properly, I'm reminded that you're

00:30:23.240 from Canada, OG.

00:30:25.040 Not now.

00:30:25.460 From French Canada.

00:30:26.720 Yeah.

00:30:27.120 So yeah, so you've got a connection up there.

00:30:29.960 And what do you make of Justin Trudeau finally waving the white flag and admitting everyone

00:30:36.600 hates him and he has to step down?

00:30:38.380 Well, he's announced his intention to step down, prorogued Parliament, so there's no

00:30:43.100 government in session until March 24.

00:30:44.860 They're going to hold internal leadership races to find his replacement.

00:30:48.640 I've said it before, too little, too late, but better late than never.

00:30:52.640 I made a joke, you know, sort of when I put out an update after that happened.

00:30:56.420 It's like, imagine being so hated that everyone on earth is happy that you're resigning or

00:31:02.220 announced your intention to resign, except perhaps your ex-wife who might have to spend more

00:31:07.240 time with you now once you're out of office.

00:31:08.820 Everybody hates the men, even people within his own party and especially people within

00:31:12.760 his own party.

00:31:13.760 So it is too little, too late.

00:31:15.260 The replacement will probably be, you know, new boss will be just as bad as the old and

00:31:18.940 the devil we know is probably, you know, going to be maybe even less bad than the devil we

00:31:23.340 don't.

00:31:24.100 His replacements, Chrystia Freeland, who is Ukraine first, board of trustees of the WEF, would

00:31:30.320 be no better, probably worse as a leader.

00:31:32.540 Mark Carney, another, you know, globalist WEF stooge, probably no better.

00:31:37.280 But it's an indication that the Liberal Party is in free fall.

00:31:40.300 Internal fighting is always fun to see when it's the other side.

00:31:43.920 And, you know, good riddance to bad rubbish when it comes to Justin Trudeau.

00:31:46.800 He truly will go down as the darkest stain on Canadian history, closely followed by his

00:31:53.300 father, Pierre Elliott.

00:31:54.960 You know, it's funny because sometimes when you see these people in the news go, whether

00:32:00.040 it's like a news anchor being fired or a leader falling, you know, normally you have like

00:32:05.380 a mixed emotion where you think, goodbye, but come on, I'm kind of going to miss criticizing

00:32:11.000 them.

00:32:11.420 You know, like, this is how I felt when Stelter got fired from CNN.

00:32:15.400 I was just, I was going to say him in particular.

00:32:18.020 I was going to say, I kind of felt bad for him, you know, he's an innocent looking potato

00:32:21.700 head.

00:32:22.520 Well, I didn't feel bad for him, but I was going to, I felt bad for me because I wasn't

00:32:26.460 going to be having his editorial to rip on.

00:32:29.360 But then they brought him back.

00:32:30.420 So it's great.

00:32:31.040 But anyway, with Trudeau, I don't feel like that.

00:32:33.200 I'm like, get rid of him.

00:32:34.660 He's such a pernicious, terrible force that even our, our friends up north who voted for

00:32:40.820 him, even those people do not deserve him.

00:32:44.980 They voted for him.

00:32:46.160 Not, not once.

00:32:47.420 I believe it was thrice, but it's, he, he's really, it's indescribable how destructive a

00:32:53.760 force he has been for Canada.

00:32:54.820 And he was bad before COVID and then COVID really released the inner tyrant censorship,

00:33:00.620 uh, division, identity politics, full on tyranny with, with, with, with government responses

00:33:06.760 to COVID.

00:33:07.700 He's a, he's a very, very bad man.

00:33:10.240 Um, and he will be remembered as such.

00:33:12.460 The only problem is his replacement will probably be no better.

00:33:15.440 So we got to hope for, uh, you know, it's going to be a conservative majority government,

00:33:19.520 whether you like Pierre Poilievre or not.

00:33:21.400 I'm just hoping that some people from my party that I ran for the People's Party of Canada

00:33:25.580 can get some seats into parliament to have some meaningful opposition voices and some good

00:33:29.840 common sense that is nationalist in the good sense of protecting Canada and having Canada

00:33:35.120 come first, not Canada come second, third, and fourth to a variety of other international

00:33:39.520 globalist interests.

00:33:41.260 Well, if not, it could come 51st as our, as our latest state says, president Trump, he

00:33:46.520 has to keep paying $2 billion to it.

00:33:50.040 He'll have to make four States out of it.

00:33:51.840 He'll have to have the Maritimes.

00:33:53.000 He'll have to have French Canada and Quebec be a separate state.

00:33:55.460 They're going to want to separate Ontario, the liberal state.

00:33:58.080 And then you have Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, which would be sort of the Texas, uh, Texas

00:34:02.820 affiliate States, but it'd have to be more than one additional state.

00:34:05.460 Because otherwise we're just, it's just like adding, you know, one of these left wing

00:34:08.700 groups that they get like making DC a state so that they can have two more senators on

00:34:12.700 the left.

00:34:12.980 We don't need that.

00:34:13.600 We got enough problems.

00:34:14.860 Viva and pleasure as always.

00:34:16.900 Megan, thank you very much for having me.

00:34:19.320 Okay.

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00:35:53.820 Yeah.

00:35:54.500 I will never apologize for standing up for an LGDP, LGT, LBG, LGBTQ2+.

00:36:05.780 And what do you and your family do to cut back on plastics?

00:36:11.240 We have recently switched to drinking water bottles out of, water out of, when we have

00:36:18.740 water bottles out of plastic, sorry, away from plastic towards paper, like drink box water

00:36:27.740 bottles sort of things.

00:36:28.720 I actually never take selfies.

00:36:30.780 Everyone else takes selfies.

00:36:31.960 I don't take selfies.

00:36:33.600 Maternal love is the love that's going to change the future of mankind.

00:36:38.960 So we'd like you to.

00:36:40.220 We'd like to say people kind, not necessarily mankind.

00:36:43.540 If people want to wear a mask, that is okay.

00:36:47.120 It prevents you from breathing or speaking moistly on them.

00:36:53.600 What a terrible image.

00:36:54.660 I appreciate calling it makeup, but it was blackface.

00:36:57.420 Have you since been made aware or remembered of other instances?

00:36:59.900 And if so, how many?

00:37:00.840 I am wary of, of, of, uh, being definitive about this.

00:37:08.260 It is exactly the example of the kinds of things you need to do to counter the she, the

00:37:15.420 she session and turn it into a she coverage.

00:37:17.740 I will never apologize for standing up for an lgdp, lgbt, lbg, lgbtq2 plus.

00:37:30.000 Bye, Justin.

00:37:31.520 Well, we will miss you a little.

00:37:33.660 The she session and turn it into a she coverage.

00:37:38.440 That's a real person who exists and was running Canada.

00:37:42.780 I mean, currently is running Canada.

00:37:44.520 Welcome back to the Megan Kelly show.

00:37:47.520 Unbelievable.

00:37:48.820 Uh, back here, we have our own absurd leaders.

00:37:51.040 As you know, just take a look at California right now.

00:37:53.720 The LA fires continue to rage on and the failure of mayor Karen Bass is becoming more and more

00:38:01.600 obvious by the day.

00:38:03.140 She's refusing to take any accountability for the devastation.

00:38:07.060 I mean, none plus president Trump chatting it up and laughing with former president Obama

00:38:11.940 at president Carter's funeral yesterday.

00:38:14.840 Did you see this tape?

00:38:15.500 It went everywhere.

00:38:16.260 It's very, very telling.

00:38:17.700 Hitler's so funny.

00:38:18.720 He's hilarious.

00:38:19.520 Hitler's just a barrel of laughs.

00:38:22.060 We're going to get to it all with my next guest.

00:38:23.700 Jesse Kelly is here here.

00:38:25.180 He's host of the Jesse Kelly show.

00:38:26.920 And also I'm right, which you can find at youtube.com slash Jesse Kelly, D C Jesse.

00:38:33.380 Welcome back.

00:38:33.900 Great to have you.

00:38:34.480 It's great to be here, Megan.

00:38:36.660 Thank you for that barrel of laughs watching Justin Trudeau.

00:38:40.880 Just man, our friends up North, congratulations.

00:38:44.220 You finally get to be rid of that turd.

00:38:46.980 You know, it's like the people who say it's herstory instead of history.

00:38:51.500 It's one of those guys.

00:38:53.020 This is not one of your guys, Jesse, who you'd be having a beer with.

00:38:57.400 No, you know what's funny, Megan?

00:39:00.180 It's funny.

00:39:00.860 And it's also sad.

00:39:01.920 And as you mentioned, when you were laughing about it, you mentioned, and that's the guy

00:39:06.320 who was running Canada.

00:39:07.360 And then you pointed to our own leaders and L.A. and things like that.

00:39:11.440 I think, at least for me, I think we do this thing that's very, very natural and that we

00:39:18.680 look at these absurd people and we assume, yeah, they're ridiculous, they're dumb, they're

00:39:23.240 absurd, they're commies, they're all these things.

00:39:25.400 But we assume if the beep hits the fan that at least, surely there are competent people

00:39:30.940 around them.

00:39:32.060 There are people who will figure it out.

00:39:34.800 If it gets bad, if there's a wildfire, if there's a this, if there is that, surely they

00:39:39.640 have someone they can turn to.

00:39:41.140 Yeah, that guy's like a caricature, but surely there's someone.

00:39:44.660 But the truth is, that's not true.

00:39:46.380 That's not true at all.

00:39:47.940 The worst, dumbest, most despicable people in the world now run every aspect of Western

00:39:54.900 society.

00:39:55.520 And it's frightening when you think about it.

00:39:56.940 So we don't think about it.

00:39:57.920 We lie to ourselves and tell ourselves that there are competent people there.

00:40:01.260 There aren't.

00:40:01.920 There aren't.

00:40:02.280 We're in a lot of trouble.

00:40:04.420 The situation in L.A. and the leadership vacuum is becoming more and more apparent every

00:40:09.100 day.

00:40:09.780 So you have Gavin Newsom on camera when asked, hey, what about the fact that the fire hydrants

00:40:14.400 didn't have any water in them?

00:40:16.660 Says, oh, you know, the local leaders, they're going to comment on that.

00:40:19.440 The local leaders respond to that.

00:40:20.980 The local leaders were in Ghana, or we now find out the deputy mayor was on leave for allegedly

00:40:29.740 calling in a fake bomb threat.

00:40:32.580 So those are the local leaders, Jesse.

00:40:36.420 Nowhere to be found.

00:40:37.960 And you know what was happening at the fire department, where now we know that the top

00:40:44.020 three leaders in charge look more like a cabal of Smith attendees than tough, grizzled firemen

00:40:53.760 ready to put out fires.

00:40:54.840 I mean, every single I think everybody in the L.A. F.D. management is a lesbian who is

00:41:01.080 bragging about her lesbianism and really, really proud of her short haircut and short stature

00:41:06.880 and inability to rescue men from burning buildings.

00:41:11.280 Yeah.

00:41:11.880 And not even hot lesbians either, which is super disappointing.

00:41:14.980 No, not the lipstick.

00:41:15.780 This is what.

00:41:16.740 Yes.

00:41:17.400 This is what happens under Democrat rule.

00:41:20.700 And that's kind of what I was alluding to earlier.

00:41:23.100 There are real consequences in places like California, which I actually love.

00:41:27.760 I know it's fashionable to dump on California, but it's just so beautiful.

00:41:30.740 And I have so many friends that I love it so much.

00:41:32.920 It's paradise.

00:41:33.760 And it breaks my heart what has happened to it.

00:41:36.080 I don't enjoy watching beauty turn ugly.

00:41:39.520 I don't enjoy watching it at all.

00:41:42.140 But this is the consequence of voting Democrat.

00:41:45.200 And legions of people in California, when they go out to cocktail parties, they get with

00:41:50.640 friends.

00:41:51.400 It's just what you do.

00:41:52.580 Of course you vote Democrat.

00:41:54.140 Yeah, we voted Democrat.

00:41:55.320 We voted for this Democrat.

00:41:56.520 We voted for that Democrat.

00:41:58.100 And it's just kind of always taught or thought of as this throwaway line.

00:42:02.000 Yes, we vote blue.

00:42:03.420 Ha ha ha.

00:42:04.100 We're so Democrat.

00:42:05.240 Well, if you do that for long enough, you will have these weapons grade morons take positions

00:42:10.960 of power up and up and up and up and up the chain.

00:42:13.920 And soon the entire chain is hot, stinky garbage.

00:42:17.380 And you have one of the great cities in the United States of America put to the torch and

00:42:22.540 no one seems to be able to stop it.

00:42:25.480 These are consequences that are downstream of the behavior of voters.

00:42:30.440 It's really the point I keep trying to make over and over and over again.

00:42:34.400 The consequences of neglecting your elections, of just sitting it out.

00:42:39.580 I'm not interested.

00:42:40.500 I vote Democrat.

00:42:41.660 Ha ha ha.

00:42:42.280 Look how live I am.

00:42:43.620 Well, the consequences of that are you wake up one morning and Los Angeles looks like something

00:42:48.220 out of a Mad Max film.

00:42:49.560 That's what you get.

00:42:50.340 But yeah, totally on the subject of the fire chief, it's getting worse by the minute.

00:42:56.580 So you've got the fire chief who is, I mean, first line of her bio touting her gayness and

00:43:01.860 the fact that she's a woman.

00:43:03.340 Okay.

00:43:03.560 What?

00:43:03.820 No one cares.

00:43:04.520 And then you've got her second in command who is named.

00:43:08.440 Okay.

00:43:08.540 So the first lady is Christina Crowley.

00:43:10.420 She's the first LGBTQ fire chief salary, 439,000 plus.

00:43:15.000 Then her second in command is Christina Kepner.

00:43:18.240 The, this person, by the way, then the person who's, I think, third in command or high up

00:43:23.700 is the first black.

00:43:25.900 Okay.

00:43:26.420 So second, let me just get it straight.

00:43:28.500 Christina Crowley, first LGBTQ fire chief.

00:43:30.660 Then under her is Christina Kepner.

00:43:32.480 First, first lesbian assistant chief.

00:43:35.740 Then under her is Christine Larson.

00:43:38.440 They're all Christina, Christina.

00:43:40.580 She's also a lesbian.

00:43:42.460 She's also a lesbian.

00:43:46.540 I don't know why.

00:43:47.540 And she's also black and she's in charge of equity within the FD.

00:43:53.580 I don't know why.

00:43:55.060 And she also makes more than the assistant chief.

00:43:58.060 She makes almost 400,000, 399,000.

00:44:00.940 So these, they're making 439,000, 265,000, 399,000.

00:44:07.240 And what we get is Christina, Christina, Christina, lesbian, lesbian, lesbian.

00:44:12.540 Why, Jesse?

00:44:13.760 You tell me why.

00:44:14.860 Well, because the object of this is an assault, a never-ending, relentless assault on white

00:44:20.800 men, white Christian men that has been institutionalized throughout the United States of America.

00:44:25.880 And I don't know why it's controversial to talk about this at all.

00:44:29.040 Corporate America, the education system.

00:44:31.740 I mean, the government itself under Joe Biden has been very honest about this thing.

00:44:36.300 You brought up the L.A. Fire Department.

00:44:38.340 I'm sure you've played the videos on your show.

00:44:40.920 I've been out of town, but I'm sure you've played them.

00:44:43.120 I've seen them on social media.

00:44:45.080 These people running ad campaigns bragging about this is how many women we're going to hire.

00:44:50.300 This is how many gays we're going to hire.

00:44:52.020 This is what would you do things like that?

00:44:53.640 What you're announcing is we are taking a certain demographic and we're just simply cutting them

00:45:00.100 out of the equation.

00:45:01.740 And beyond the rampant lesbianism, where apparently, to find the leadership of the L.A. Fire Department,

00:45:07.000 they went to the local softball team.

00:45:09.240 Apparently, they focused on hiring women as well as firefighters.

00:45:14.640 Now, I am as pro-woman as anybody underneath the sun, but why are we focusing on women?

00:45:21.900 This is a physical, brutal job that involves wearing a lot of weight, carrying a lot of weight,

00:45:28.260 doing physical things.

00:45:29.520 You see those dudes out there in L.A. hauling people out, hauling equipment out?

00:45:33.840 It's a brutally physical job.

00:45:35.980 So why in the world would you focus on the person who's physically weaker?

00:45:39.820 Well, the only reason you would do that is you're a psychopathic, cultural Marxist interested

00:45:45.220 in burning everything down, and you really don't care if Los Angeles burns as long as

00:45:50.720 you get to hire you and all your lesbian friends for $499,000 a year.

00:45:55.380 It's pathetic.

00:45:56.520 And there are consequences to it.

00:45:58.340 I keep coming back to this.

00:45:59.900 We like to point at this stuff and we laugh.

00:46:01.980 Megan, you laugh.

00:46:02.900 I laugh.

00:46:03.520 It's hysterical.

00:46:04.580 Why do we need this?

00:46:05.800 Why do we need that?

00:46:06.320 We laugh.

00:46:07.360 But downstream of that, people die.

00:46:09.820 That's the thing.

00:46:10.940 There are real, genuine consequences to setting aside merit and focusing on box checking and

00:46:17.640 checking this.

00:46:18.300 But she checked that box.

00:46:19.720 We got enough gays.

00:46:21.040 Have we got enough women?

00:46:22.340 We laugh.

00:46:23.700 We even call it woke.

00:46:24.920 I've been guilty of that before.

00:46:26.280 I actually have grown to hate that word because it really presents like, oh, they're just so

00:46:31.400 goofy.

00:46:31.920 They're kind of woke.

00:46:32.680 It's not that.

00:46:33.320 It's freaking evil.

00:46:34.500 It's discriminatory.

00:46:36.000 It's evil.

00:46:36.720 And people die because of it.

00:46:38.480 But it's like the NBA having a DEI program where they're prioritizing short people.

00:46:45.740 We don't have enough short people.

00:46:47.260 We got it.

00:46:47.800 And OK, without asking, why don't we have that many short people in the NBA?

00:46:54.140 Right.

00:46:54.380 Why don't we have more women in the fire department?

00:46:57.100 There's a really good reason.

00:46:58.820 Most of them cannot pass the test unless you lower the standards.

00:47:02.220 Strapping 60 pound of gear on your back and then climbing up a ladder and then going into

00:47:07.220 a house.

00:47:07.740 And on top of all that, rescuing a grown man takes a lot of strength that most women,

00:47:13.320 99 percent, do not have.

00:47:15.400 Or it's like a police department having a DEI program that prioritizes people in wheelchairs.

00:47:21.820 Like there is a reason why it's not a good fit.

00:47:25.280 It doesn't mean you're discriminatory against or can't stand or hate people in wheelchairs

00:47:30.900 or short people.

00:47:32.000 It means it's not a good fit for this particular job.

00:47:34.440 And while women probably great, equal, if not better in some cases than men at being

00:47:40.140 an EMS, right, can do all the life saving procedures that happen in a hospital or once

00:47:44.040 you get the body out of the house, 100 percent, of course, let's be honest, of course they

00:47:48.260 can do that.

00:47:49.120 But why do we have to pretend in the name of, you know, equity, whatever, that women are

00:47:53.860 equal to men when it comes to actually doing the job of a firefighter, whatever.

00:47:56.840 All this is academic because we don't know whether it played any role.

00:47:59.680 All we know is that the LAFD was very, very focused on DEI and hiring women and not so

00:48:05.800 focused on the fire hydrants.

00:48:07.760 But listen, I want to show you one thing.

00:48:10.180 So the second woman, Christina Crowley, the first LGBTQ, sorry, there's Christine, Kristen

00:48:16.060 Crowley, the chief, then Christina Kepner, the first lesbian assistant chief.

00:48:20.820 It's just ridiculous.

00:48:22.260 In this video of hers going viral where she was asked about the job and these potential

00:48:29.380 problems in rescuing people who are much larger than your average woman.

00:48:33.240 I don't know about whether they're average, whether they're bigger than Christina Kepner.

00:48:37.940 Watch.

00:48:39.540 You want to see somebody that responds to your house, your emergency, whether it's a medical

00:48:44.500 call or a fire call that looks like you.

00:48:46.580 It gives that person a little bit more ease knowing that somebody might understand their

00:48:50.860 situation better.

00:48:52.060 Is she strong enough to do this?

00:48:53.680 Or you couldn't carry my husband out of a fire, which my response is he got himself in the

00:48:58.180 wrong place if I have to carry him out of a fire.

00:49:02.320 Only about 5% of working firefighters are women.

00:49:05.060 This is what they're calling attention to.

00:49:06.240 By the way, correction, that was one of the other Christines.

00:49:08.360 That was Christine Larson, the first black lesbian equity bureau chief.

00:49:13.340 She was basically saying, Jesse, if somebody like you finds himself in a fire, F off, you're

00:49:18.960 to blame.

00:49:20.440 Well, the religious zealots, as we talked about many times, Megan and religious zealots will

00:49:24.640 kill people and let people die on behalf of their religion.

00:49:27.960 People in America have a hard time understanding that the far left radical types like that

00:49:33.400 are.

00:49:34.280 I mean, how many people would have to die for them to come around to your side?

00:49:37.900 All of them, all of them.

00:49:39.180 They are serving a cause they view as higher than putting out fires at a fire department

00:49:43.700 or Los Angeles.

00:49:44.800 And if people have to die because of it, it's no sweat off their back.

00:49:48.660 And in fact, they put themselves on video bragging about it.

00:49:51.680 It's really quite something.

00:49:52.800 It's amazing.

00:49:54.520 You got the one who's like, I'm a woman and I'm gay.

00:49:57.060 You're hired.

00:49:57.860 And then the assistant, I'm a woman and I'm gay.

00:50:00.100 Well, you're hired.

00:50:00.820 Then you got this third person coming in saying, I'm a woman and I'm gay and I'm black.

00:50:05.360 And that person will probably be the next chief if they continue along the way they've

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00:50:31.860 Jesse, uh, the LA fire chief, the top Kristen female lesbian, uh, was on CBS news with Nora

00:50:43.500 O'Donnell trying to defend the, this disaster that we're looking at out in California.

00:50:48.780 And she was asked about the fact that the mayor cut 17 million from their budget, the fire

00:50:55.000 department's budget.

00:50:55.940 And the fire chief herself had been jumping up and down about that earlier saying, this

00:51:00.580 is going to cost essential services.

00:51:02.460 Now that the shit has hit the fan, she tried to engage in revisionism like, huh?

00:51:08.540 Who?

00:51:08.980 What?

00:51:09.420 No.

00:51:10.300 And to her credit, Nora O'Donnell followed up and here's what happened.

00:51:13.540 Would that $17 million that had been cut from your budget have made a difference in this

00:51:19.880 fight?

00:51:20.100 I would say with the lean forward posture that we took, knowing that a $17 million cut we

00:51:27.480 had to take from somewhere.

00:51:28.840 And that was from the non-essential duties and responsibilities that as the fire department

00:51:33.400 we have taken on over the past many, many years.

00:51:36.520 But with all due respect, in December, you had warned that the budget cuts would severely

00:51:41.160 limit your ability to respond to large scale emergencies.

00:51:45.380 Is that true or not?

00:51:46.700 Yes.

00:51:47.480 Yes.

00:51:47.920 So I would say, yes, we were limited to a certain factor.

00:51:50.680 Yes.

00:51:52.400 Do you believe that smarmy snake oil shit?

00:51:56.760 You know, this is part of what bothers me about a lot of things, Megan, but we can make

00:52:02.680 this about LA because that's what we're talking about here.

00:52:05.380 The leaders in our society now, I mean, so many of them, you see this all throughout the

00:52:09.560 military, whatnot.

00:52:11.200 Where's the sense of pride and sense of duty?

00:52:14.380 Why do none of these people ever resign?

00:52:18.180 Why do none of these people ever own anything?

00:52:20.080 I'm talking about mayors.

00:52:21.120 I'm talking about fire chiefs.

00:52:22.320 I'm talking about generals.

00:52:23.380 I'm talking about CEOs.

00:52:24.760 I'm talking, where is the sense of honor?

00:52:26.940 You know, if you look back at what, like World War II is actually a great example of this.

00:52:31.940 How many commanders, generals and admirals resigned because they were sad about a battle or

00:52:37.440 men they had lost?

00:52:38.480 We had generals and admirals, not that I'm encouraging this, killing themselves, committing

00:52:42.720 suicide.

00:52:43.680 They got so many letters.

00:52:44.780 They were so sad about troops who died under their command.

00:52:47.540 They felt such a heart that they just killed themselves.

00:52:50.000 They couldn't live with the shame of it.

00:52:51.260 We fought a 20-year GWAT war in Afghanistan and Iraq, and nobody can name for me a single

00:52:57.680 general or admiral who resigned in disgrace.

00:53:00.760 Nobody.

00:53:01.260 Not one of them.

00:53:02.040 It's just not even thought of anymore.

00:53:03.920 And you see this in the wake of, honestly, are we calling this a natural disaster, Megan?

00:53:08.440 I think that's probably not true to call it that.

00:53:11.980 Well, let's just go with that for now, even though it's not true.

00:53:14.580 This is the greatest natural disaster as far as property damage goes in the history of the

00:53:19.540 United States of America.

00:53:21.000 It's comparable to the Chicago fire, I believe.

00:53:24.300 And no one has resigned.

00:53:26.060 And in fact, nobody has even shown contrition.

00:53:28.600 Not mayors.

00:53:29.580 Not the fire chief.

00:53:30.300 No one's even gone on the news and said, well, look, I own this.

00:53:33.920 My heart is broken for my city.

00:53:35.600 This is going to be on me.

00:53:36.720 I'm going to get this cleaned up as best I can.

00:53:38.900 And then I'm going to resign.

00:53:39.860 The people deserve better.

00:53:41.120 And in fact, the fact that I just said this, everyone's probably laughing right now because

00:53:44.240 the thought of that is so ridiculous.

00:53:46.140 But that's what leadership is.

00:53:48.000 And that's what we used to have.

00:53:49.540 But immediately, you just saw that hag there on television.

00:53:52.540 She's turtling up.

00:53:53.740 Got to protect Democrats.

00:53:54.980 Got to protect the brand.

00:53:56.080 And everyone just tries to protect the system now instead of having any duty and honor.

00:54:01.360 It drives me crazy.

00:54:02.700 I'm sorry, but you just listened to this woman.

00:54:04.580 And I'm all for women in leadership positions.

00:54:06.460 I used to know a Secret Service agent when I lived in Virginia.

00:54:09.140 And she lived in my same development.

00:54:10.920 She was like six foot two.

00:54:12.780 She was strong.

00:54:14.240 She was a badass.

00:54:15.660 And I would hire that woman to protect President Trump, to work at the fire department, to do

00:54:20.140 any number of things that men can do.

00:54:22.120 She's probably in the 0.05 percentage point when it comes to women and their physical abilities.

00:54:29.660 I'm not saying it can never happen.

00:54:31.420 But as a rule, it doesn't happen.

00:54:33.140 As a rule, women are too weak for these particular jobs and should not have the standards lowered

00:54:38.380 so that they can do them.

00:54:40.000 This woman doesn't look strong.

00:54:41.380 This woman, to be honest, I'm not trying to be mean, but she looks portly.

00:54:44.760 She doesn't look in shape at all.

00:54:46.520 Neither does that other woman who we showed, the black lesbian Christine.

00:54:49.980 She looks obese.

00:54:52.780 These are firefighters.

00:54:54.140 They're supposed to be in great shape.

00:54:55.780 And that woman, the one who was like, well, that your husband, if I had to carry your husband

00:54:59.780 out of a fire, he's done something wrong.

00:55:01.960 Hello, that's your job.

00:55:03.840 Would you, what are you saying?

00:55:05.780 The fact that, like, everybody who finds themselves sitting in a burning house is not to blame

00:55:11.900 for the fire.

00:55:13.000 What are you, like, what a weird dodge.

00:55:15.720 So you've got these out of shape, portly looking, short, in some cases, the other woman looked

00:55:23.000 tall, lesbians who touted their sexuality, running LAFD, who won't take responsibility.

00:55:29.900 Then you've got what is clearly a DEI hire mayor, because you have so many Californians

00:55:35.120 saying, I voted for her because I couldn't vote for the white guy over the black woman,

00:55:38.240 Karen Bass.

00:55:38.700 And here's what she was saying yesterday.

00:55:41.700 No, they were like, oh, there's no way.

00:55:43.100 I'm not voting for a white guy over a black woman.

00:55:46.880 And so here she is after she finally got back from Ghana, where she did nothing.

00:55:51.360 Why does the mayor of LA have to be in Ghana for the inauguration of an African prime minister?

00:55:58.140 So she gets, okay, she gets grilled, yes, by CBS reporter John Vigliotti.

00:56:06.440 I think he's local.

00:56:07.620 And here's what she says.

00:56:09.380 Listen to us out there, team.

00:56:10.400 My crew and I arrived shortly after it started.

00:56:13.100 And for several hours, we watched as hundreds of homes in a neighborhood burned to the ground.

00:56:18.940 We did not see a single fire engine.

00:56:21.580 You were out of the country at the time.

00:56:23.480 My question to you is, what explains this lack of preparation and rapid response?

00:56:29.060 Let me just say, first and foremost, my number one focus, and I think the focus of all of

00:56:34.960 us here with one voice, is that we have to protect lives, we have to save lives, and we

00:56:41.900 have to save homes.

00:56:44.240 Rest assured that when that, rest assured, let me finish, rest assured, when that is done,

00:56:51.400 when we are safe, when lives have been saved and homes have been saved, we will absolutely

00:56:57.340 do an evaluation to look at what worked, what didn't work, and to correct or to hold accountable

00:57:05.040 any body, department, individual, et cetera.

00:57:08.940 Do you think your leadership was effective while responding to this disaster?

00:57:13.180 I just said what I believe is the most important thing for us to do right now.

00:57:18.340 The answer's no, madam.

00:57:21.300 And by the way, Jessie, so that's another, that's like, we'll create it like a commission

00:57:24.540 at some point, and many months down the line, the commission will tell us whether any errors

00:57:30.320 were made, you know, passive voice.

00:57:32.520 She won't speak to it.

00:57:33.640 And by the way, just to put the lie to what she's saying, Jessie, her head of waterworks,

00:57:37.820 Janice Quinones, was already out there at least trying to say why the fire hydrants didn't

00:57:44.260 have water.

00:57:44.800 It wasn't a satisfactory explanation, but at least she was speaking to it.

00:57:47.440 So the notion that we must pretend one cannot engage in thought about how the problems that

00:57:54.160 are stopping the fires from getting put out are happening, like you can't engage in any

00:58:01.060 explanation of that right now while it's happening, is bullshit.

00:58:04.080 Her own administration is doing it.

00:58:05.980 She just won't do it.

00:58:08.080 This is what they do.

00:58:09.760 And this is what happens when you have a society that focuses on a bunch of things that don't

00:58:15.580 matter at all.

00:58:16.740 It's like if I was a runner or I was signing up to run a marathon and I never worked out,

00:58:25.260 never ran.

00:58:25.960 I just sat around eating pizzas and tacos the whole time, never worked out, no cardio

00:58:29.680 at all.

00:58:30.440 And then it comes time for race day and I get up there and I say, I am extremely focused

00:58:34.700 on running the race.

00:58:35.860 I can't wait to run the race.

00:58:37.180 I'm going to run as hard as I can.

00:58:38.740 And looking back at any of the behavior I did leading up to this race is completely

00:58:44.580 inappropriate because it's race day.

00:58:46.800 No, it's extremely inappropriate.

00:58:48.640 If one of the biggest cities, the second biggest city in the United States of America, with all

00:58:54.220 that wealth, all that infrastructure, somehow failed its citizens.

00:58:59.260 And clearly it did in ways that entire neighborhoods are gone.

00:59:03.880 We're not talking blocks or individual homes.

00:59:06.660 Entire neighborhoods are gone.

00:59:08.640 If the second biggest city in the United States of America failed and is currently failing its

00:59:13.660 citizens that badly, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:59:16.900 Accountability starts now because you're exactly right, Megan.

00:59:19.600 This is what the scumbags in the government, federal, state, and local do all across this

00:59:23.680 country.

00:59:24.400 They try to wait until the anger dies down because you and I both know about 48 hours from

00:59:29.800 now the fires will be gone, Lord willing, and everyone will be on their phones.

00:59:33.880 Hooked on whatever the newest outrage is and people will move on.

00:59:37.340 And then a month after that, they'll have a commission.

00:59:40.140 They'll have an investigation where they will investigate themselves.

00:59:43.820 And another month or two after that, they'll put something out there that'll get printed

00:59:47.840 on page 45 of the LA Times saying, well, I mean, we're not going to name anyone individually,

00:59:54.020 but clearly we have a couple of things we should do here and there.

00:59:57.460 You know what?

00:59:57.800 We probably need more money.

00:59:59.460 And then that's the last anyone will ever hear of it.

01:00:02.360 And you have all these people who've lost everything.

01:00:04.760 And what I'm trying to get through to the American people is we have to start punishing

01:00:09.580 the politicians who run us by taking their power away from them.

01:00:13.500 There is no second option.

01:00:16.320 They'll blame one woman and one woman only.

01:00:18.840 And that woman is Santa Ana.

01:00:20.760 That's the one.

01:00:21.720 It was her fault and her fault alone.

01:00:24.340 And definitely not the fault of Karen Bass or any one of these Kristen's or Christine's

01:00:28.800 or Christina's trying to run the FD in Los Angeles.

01:00:33.300 Here is, by the way, the fire chief on CBS responding to the criticism of the DEI thing.

01:00:40.740 Has that effort at diversity been over your efforts in order to fight these fires?

01:00:46.480 Because that's been the criticism.

01:00:47.900 You know it's out there.

01:00:48.680 Absolutely not.

01:00:50.960 Absolutely not.

01:00:51.800 Again, my number one priority is making sure that we can take care of the community that

01:00:56.160 we took an oath to take care of.

01:00:58.080 And with that is our ability to respond to emergency.

01:01:01.280 Number one priority is to make sure that we provide 911 services, EMS, and fire.

01:01:07.620 Well, you didn't.

01:01:08.560 But that's not true.

01:01:09.280 And by the way, what a lame question, right?

01:01:10.860 Like, were your DEI efforts at the expense of planning to fight fires?

01:01:15.840 That's not the...

01:01:16.640 What do you think she's going to say, right?

01:01:18.220 And just one other point.

01:01:19.560 She seems like this is a woman I would expect to see when I go in for my parent-child-teacher

01:01:23.760 conference, right?

01:01:24.960 Like, kind of sweet, nice manner.

01:01:28.440 Like, does that woman instill confidence in you as the person in charge of fighting this,

01:01:34.600 one of the most disastrous blazes the country has ever seen?

01:01:38.100 She doesn't even seem...

01:01:39.020 Like, I want somebody who looks grizzled, sounds grizzled, and is like,

01:01:43.640 Nora, I don't have time for this shit, but I'm going to give you my top five points in

01:01:49.240 what we're doing.

01:01:50.100 Goodbye.

01:01:50.420 No, I want my fire chief to be some 60-year-old man who has to put out his Marlboro Red before

01:01:58.100 he goes on television to tell me about all the training he's got put in for his guys.

01:02:02.960 But what she just said there is a lie.

01:02:04.620 She lied the same way Karen Bass lied.

01:02:06.560 She knows right now, now that they're under fire, she has to get up here and say,

01:02:10.080 that's my number one priority.

01:02:11.760 But again, back to my marathon analogy, that was not your number one priority.

01:02:15.840 You've been on videotape discussing how your priorities were.

01:02:19.720 We need to stuff more women and more LGBTQ Air Force types and all these people in the

01:02:24.780 positions of power.

01:02:25.560 That's been your number one priority leading up to the fire.

01:02:29.220 And now that the fire's here and everyone's angry, you know you're supposed to go on television

01:02:32.900 and say that's your number one priority.

01:02:35.420 But that's not these people's number one priority.

01:02:37.940 It never is.

01:02:38.720 It's their number one priority is pushing their sick demonic religion in every single

01:02:43.700 part of this society.

01:02:45.420 And if society has to burn down, well, the revolution is all that matters.

01:02:50.420 Revolution without end, as Mao always said.

01:02:52.920 You always keep the revolution going.

01:02:55.240 Doesn't matter how many planes fall from the sky or houses burn or wars we lose.

01:03:00.020 You keep moving forward.

01:03:02.220 And this is why the right has got to develop some teeth.

01:03:05.280 We really have to sharpen our teeth a lot because the right has been in love with tolerance for

01:03:10.480 the longest time.

01:03:11.480 But we have to be nice.

01:03:12.720 We're better than that.

01:03:13.880 That's not who we are.

01:03:15.360 That has been the language of nursery rhyme conservatism for my 43 years on the planet.

01:03:20.220 No, these are evil, psychopathic, demonic children.

01:03:23.220 And they have to be put in their place in order to preserve a polite society.

01:03:27.860 Otherwise, you get to watch one of America's cities burn.

01:03:30.560 You watch the real life carnage.

01:03:34.340 I mean, the aerials are just absolutely devastating.

01:03:36.920 It's awful.

01:03:37.400 Palisades, Pacific Palisades looks like Gaza.

01:03:39.500 Looks like Gaza now.

01:03:40.360 I mean, it completely leveled.

01:03:43.400 And you see some of the videos.

01:03:45.720 I'm actually going to talk to you for a second about some of the celeb videos that have come

01:03:48.600 out because it's, there's a couple who are really sweet and who I like.

01:03:51.960 And I just feel, I feel so bad.

01:03:53.360 We talked to James Woods.

01:03:54.220 We talked to Adam Carolla.

01:03:55.720 We're still waiting to find out whether their houses are standing.

01:03:58.080 Um, but it's the real people who really tug at your heartstrings.

01:04:02.100 You know what I mean?

01:04:02.560 Like the non-celebs who are like, holy shit.

01:04:05.120 And this woman, Fran, this is actually tweeted out by J.D. Vance this morning.

01:04:09.580 She's, her name is Fran.

01:04:10.740 She's a resident of Altadena.

01:04:12.900 And she's speaking with Brian Enten of News Nation about what she's looking at as she gets

01:04:17.740 back to see her house destroyed.

01:04:20.120 Look at this.

01:04:21.680 This is your house?

01:04:22.960 This was my house.

01:04:26.200 This one right here.

01:04:28.080 We moved in 26 years ago and we did the floors and we put in windows and doors and painted

01:04:36.760 and just put, my grandchildren loved it.

01:04:41.260 My son and my daughter and my family, we hosted Christmas Eve and Christmas Day here.

01:04:46.260 And everybody was here.

01:04:49.020 My little house that I loved.

01:04:51.240 We poured everything into it.

01:04:52.480 We have nowhere to go.

01:04:56.240 We were close neighbors.

01:04:58.920 Buzz and Todd.

01:05:00.860 His mom passed away and they took over the house.

01:05:03.520 John just lost his wife that he adored.

01:05:05.980 But was taking care of that house.

01:05:08.660 She was a superior court judge.

01:05:10.700 And Beverly and John, such, so much love.

01:05:14.480 She was so incredible.

01:05:16.180 And the house, they're all gone.

01:05:18.480 See, Debbie and us and Tina, our children went to school together from kindergarten.

01:05:23.820 Our kids are in there 47 years old.

01:05:25.860 And Debbie's 47-year-old son tragically passed away last August.

01:05:32.700 Her grief is so deep.

01:05:34.060 I can't imagine.

01:05:34.760 It's awful.

01:05:38.500 This incompetence costs lives.

01:05:41.940 It costs lives in more ways than one.

01:05:44.460 It does.

01:05:45.580 And your heart breaks because when you think about a home, especially, I mean, that lady,

01:05:50.340 26 years in that home, think about all the memories.

01:05:53.980 I'm, as you well know, Megan, we're friends.

01:05:56.540 I'm not exactly the softest, cuddliest type full of emotions.

01:06:00.040 But I've moved my whole life.

01:06:01.600 We lived in 10 houses in 10 years.

01:06:03.080 That's just kind of how I grew up.

01:06:04.120 We're always moving around.

01:06:05.740 And to this day, when I move, whether I'm leaving an apartment or a house, I get, I mean,

01:06:11.520 I don't get choked up, but I have to take a moment and say goodbye because you're looking

01:06:16.820 at it.

01:06:17.260 That's the living room where I play Legos with my sons, right?

01:06:20.800 That's the kitchen where I come home and harass my wife while she's making dinner.

01:06:25.080 That's that you, there are so many memories that are built into those walls.

01:06:30.380 And I mean, that's one story, right?

01:06:32.140 We have the video of it.

01:06:33.180 How many stories like that are out of Los Angeles?

01:06:36.700 And I just, I don't want to beat it.

01:06:39.480 I don't want to beat a dead horse, but I keep coming back to, these are the consequences of

01:06:43.980 voting Democrat.

01:06:45.220 They really genuinely are.

01:06:47.600 You vote Democrat forever.

01:06:48.480 In the case of Adam and James Woods, you know, they didn't, you know, it's like, not that

01:06:53.240 it's a comfort to see the liberals lose their houses, but you know, at least you'd have

01:06:57.720 the peace of mind of saying, at least I didn't vote for this.

01:07:00.320 At least maybe if my guy had gotten in there, we would have stood a fighting chance.

01:07:03.700 At least others might finally see the light here.

01:07:05.840 Um, I will say this one actor, I don't know what his political stripes are.

01:07:11.900 I've interviewed him a couple of times on NBC.

01:07:14.120 I really liked this show, this actor and this guy, his name is Milo Ventimiglia.

01:07:19.320 And he was for, um, the Gilmore girls fans.

01:07:23.640 He played in that.

01:07:25.360 And then he became the star of, uh, this is us, a huge NBC hit show in which they tell

01:07:32.380 you upfront that like the beginning of the series that his character, the dad, his name

01:07:37.520 is Jack dies.

01:07:39.680 And so you, then the series goes on and you fall in love with Jack and you, the whole

01:07:44.980 time you're watching the series fall in love with the family, you're like, well, how did

01:07:48.620 Jack die?

01:07:49.320 Like what, why is Jack no longer here?

01:07:51.100 You can see like future versions of the children older and they talk about the missing dad.

01:07:55.340 Then you have the flashbacks to the scenes with Milo and you're, and Jack's alive.

01:07:58.640 You're like, anyway, the whole thing is around Jack and how did he die?

01:08:02.400 And then the big reveal spoiler alert, this has been out for many years.

01:08:05.080 So, uh, is that Jack died when a slow cooker caught fire in the family home that now you've

01:08:14.580 seen five seasons of by the time you find this out, it's just terrible.

01:08:18.360 It was like a devastating moment in TV history when you found this out.

01:08:23.080 Anyway, this is a good guy.

01:08:25.280 His house burned down in, in real life this week.

01:08:30.120 And here he is on camera speaking to CBS news about it.

01:08:33.960 You were aware the house was gone.

01:08:37.680 What's it like to then stand here?

01:08:39.680 Heavy.

01:08:40.920 You know, you, you start thinking about, man, hits it so quick.

01:08:44.960 You start thinking about all the memories in different parts of the house and whatnot.

01:08:49.360 And then you see your neighbor's houses and everything kind of around, um, and your heart

01:08:55.280 just breaks.

01:08:55.880 He and his wife evacuated on Tuesday, watched on security cameras as the flames took over.

01:09:02.260 I think there's a kind of shock moment where you going, oh, this is real and this is happening.

01:09:07.520 And, and then at a certain point we just turned it off.

01:09:10.100 It's like, what, what good is it to continue watching?

01:09:12.880 You know, we kind of accepted the loss.

01:09:15.520 We got good friends and we got good people we're working with and, uh, we'll make do.

01:09:21.840 Yeah.

01:09:22.480 We'll make do.

01:09:23.460 Wife and, wife and baby and dog, most important.

01:09:26.820 Hmm.

01:09:27.540 He has another baby.

01:09:28.620 He has a baby do any day now.

01:09:31.000 He was talking about how they had just decorated the nursery.

01:09:34.580 You know, it doesn't matter whether you have money or you don't have money, the loss of

01:09:38.940 your home and everything in it and all the memories you made already and were building

01:09:43.420 is real and it's profound.

01:09:45.760 And I like, I just can't tolerate the, you know, after I'm done saving all the lives,

01:09:52.480 then you can question me.

01:09:53.400 First of all, you were in damn Ghana.

01:09:55.260 And that's the other thing, Jesse.

01:09:56.340 Now the reporting is coming out from Breitbart, from Jim Garrity at national review.

01:10:01.020 She knew Karen Bass had been warned for days.

01:10:05.560 The national weather service was jumping up and down saying severe fire warning.

01:10:11.580 We are going to have massive fires in LA.

01:10:15.920 These Santa Ana winds are at epic levels.

01:10:19.980 It's not safe.

01:10:21.720 And what did she do?

01:10:22.520 And that was the Friday before, the Saturday before where she heard them and got on a plane

01:10:27.940 to Ghana.

01:10:28.880 It's not like going to Seattle from LA.

01:10:31.720 She went to Ghana.

01:10:33.820 Sunday, the same.

01:10:35.260 She didn't come back early.

01:10:36.520 Monday, the same.

01:10:37.480 She didn't come back early.

01:10:38.600 Tuesday, as her city burned.

01:10:41.560 Finally, she comes back Wednesday.

01:10:44.540 And she wants credit in her soundbite for, I took the fastest route home.

01:10:50.820 Well, she's certainly not going to postpone a cross-world trip to Ghana for a little thing

01:10:57.340 like her city, Megan.

01:10:58.540 I mean, I've said this for the longest time about politicians.

01:11:01.660 Most of these people become politicians because they want access to the things rich people

01:11:08.060 have without having the ability to actually acquire wealth.

01:11:11.580 So they take positions of power and then they bloodsuck off the taxpayer.

01:11:15.780 They do this all the time.

01:11:16.720 These mayors, she's not even alone in this.

01:11:18.580 These mayors, small town mayors will do this.

01:11:20.860 Oh, no, we're on a fact-finding mission in Madrid this week.

01:11:24.700 Oh, of course the taxpayer pays for that.

01:11:26.480 These dirt balls in Congress do it all the time.

01:11:29.820 You just saw Dome, sorry, Kamala Harris, they've got like 15 minutes left in the White House.

01:11:35.400 She has no responsibilities and never had any whatsoever.

01:11:38.240 But she's going on a round-the-world trip, one final vacation on the taxpayer dime to Singapore

01:11:44.580 and all these other beautiful places.

01:11:46.480 What's she doing?

01:11:47.520 Is it some sort of critical diplomacy?

01:11:49.360 No, she's living it up because she finally has that taxpayer-funded credit card and it

01:11:55.620 always clears and that's what they do.

01:11:58.260 That's why these people take, that's why they even want to be politicians because otherwise

01:12:01.880 being a politician would suck.

01:12:03.900 You have to ask people for money all the time.

01:12:06.100 People are always mad at you, screaming at you.

01:12:08.380 So why would you take the job?

01:12:09.920 You take the job because you want access to the things wealthy people have, but you're a

01:12:14.240 dirt ball with no talent.

01:12:15.840 So you can't get those things except for running for office.

01:12:18.800 It's very funny.

01:12:22.920 I had not actually heard the Jesse Kelly explanation of that, but it makes a lot of sense, explains

01:12:28.680 a lot of things.

01:12:30.480 All right.

01:12:31.020 Speaking of Kamala Harris, let's lighten it up a minute.

01:12:34.360 Lighten it up with the funeral of Jimmy Carter.

01:12:37.000 It's always sad when somebody passes, but he was 100 years old.

01:12:39.320 I mean, you know, he had a long, fruitful life.

01:12:42.440 The most interesting dynamic was in the audience, right?

01:12:45.200 It was in the audience as all these former presidents took their seats.

01:12:48.560 With their wives and the dynamics between them.

01:12:52.360 And since we were talking about Kamala Harris, we'll start with this as we are going to get

01:12:56.580 to the Trump and Obama moment, which I'll show separately.

01:12:58.620 But Kamala appears to be looking back at those two, Trump and Obama, yucking it up.

01:13:04.080 And she does not look happy.

01:13:06.940 Like, here she is.

01:13:08.560 She's looking forward next to Doug Emhoff.

01:13:10.160 She can see the two of them talking.

01:13:11.220 She turns back.

01:13:14.160 It looks like a deep sigh.

01:13:16.800 Looks down.

01:13:18.460 She's like, what in the actual F?

01:13:22.820 Look at her.

01:13:23.560 Look at her.

01:13:24.820 What do you think is going through that thought bubble, Jesse Kelly?

01:13:27.880 Well, I think Kamala Harris, who is, I mean, this is saying a lot, maybe the most nakedly

01:13:36.260 ambitious politician I've ever seen her entire career.

01:13:40.060 It's just been one endless ladder climb.

01:13:42.500 Say anything.

01:13:43.260 Do anything.

01:13:43.900 Take any position on any issue in order to get the next thing.

01:13:48.020 So this that's the kind of person we're dealing with here.

01:13:50.200 Well, what happened, the dynamics are Barack Obama was the one who engineered the coup.

01:13:55.760 He was the one who engineered the coup to get Joe Biden out of the White House.

01:14:00.120 And not only did he engineer the coup to get Joe Biden out of the White House, he's the

01:14:04.620 one who vouched for Kamala Harris with his vast donor network, billionaire after billionaire

01:14:10.820 after billionaire.

01:14:12.120 He knifed Joe Biden in the ribs, shoved him out the back of the White House, and then picked

01:14:16.700 up the phone and organized $1.5 billion with a bee to be given to Kamala Harris for her

01:14:23.980 campaign, where she proceeded to not only embarrass herself the entire time, she embarrassed

01:14:30.460 him.

01:14:31.220 When you vouch for somebody with a bunch of billionaires and they flame out as badly as

01:14:37.600 she flames out, well, he is not going to do that again.

01:14:42.700 And without Barack Obama, without Daddy Barack carrying her, Kamala Harris is never, ever,

01:14:49.480 ever, ever, ever going to be able to launch a significant presidential run again in her

01:14:54.480 life.

01:14:54.840 Will she run again in the 2028 primary?

01:14:57.260 Of course she will.

01:14:58.640 But she'll get the 1% to 2% before she has to embarrassingly drop out the exact same way

01:15:04.020 she did last time before Daddy Barack brought her.

01:15:06.940 Now, think about all that when you think about Kamala Harris looking over her shoulder back

01:15:12.940 at Barack Obama.

01:15:14.560 You know, I wouldn't put it past Trump to say a little bit too loudly, hey, how'd she work

01:15:20.700 out for you?

01:15:21.460 Or in the very least, if he didn't say it, I bet you Kamala Harris is thinking he said

01:15:25.660 it.

01:15:25.780 That's a very interesting point I haven't heard anybody else make about how she, what

01:15:34.100 does her future look like without the full-throated backing of Barack Obama, who definitely, you're

01:15:39.960 right, has realized what an inept politician she was, apparently had some hesitancy about

01:15:43.940 her being the nominee anyway, but realized this is where this train is going, but now has lived

01:15:48.160 it for, you know, firsthand the way we all had to.

01:15:51.240 So, yeah, her, you know, so much has fallen apart for Kamala Harris.

01:15:55.680 She reached too high, too fast, and failed upward.

01:15:59.000 Okay, but the more interesting thing is what she's seeing behind her, what those two guys

01:16:03.360 are doing behind her.

01:16:04.320 And before we zero in on the muckety-mucking that's happening between Obama and Trump,

01:16:10.420 I want people to remember what former President Obama was saying about Trump literally in October,

01:16:17.440 okay, three months ago.

01:16:21.320 Listen here, SOT 22.

01:16:23.880 He acts so crazy, and it's become so common that people no longer take it seriously.

01:16:32.140 I'm here to explain to you, just because he acts goofy does not mean his presidency wouldn't

01:16:38.420 be dangerous.

01:16:39.040 And you do not have to take my word for it.

01:16:44.740 Lately, some of the people who know Donald Trump best have been saying in no uncertain

01:16:51.960 terms that he should not be president again.

01:16:54.480 The other day, General John Kelly, Donald Trump's former chief of staff, said that Trump told

01:17:03.460 him, he wanted his generals to be like Hitler's generals.

01:17:09.020 Now, don't boo.

01:17:11.640 Vote.

01:17:14.340 So he wants Hitler's generals to take over, and he's genuinely dangerous.

01:17:22.480 Cut to yesterday and the two of them.

01:17:28.880 There they are chatting.

01:17:30.220 Barack's laughing, genuinely laughing, to where, like, his body is shaking.

01:17:36.880 Hitler's so funny, Jesse.

01:17:38.640 Hitler's quite charming when you spend time with him one-on-one.

01:17:43.120 Well, you know who should be mad about that?

01:17:45.640 But they won't be.

01:17:46.760 But who should be mad about that are the little drones who vote Democrat every single time.

01:17:50.840 Because these people lie to your face all the time.

01:17:54.040 None of these people think Trump is actually Hitler or a Nazi or a white supremacist.

01:17:58.540 And before Donald Trump started running for president, he was a lifelong Democrat who was

01:18:03.140 chumming up with these people at every single cocktail party out there.

01:18:06.860 And they all loved him.

01:18:07.880 They had Chuck Schumer, all these guys.

01:18:09.460 They all loved him.

01:18:10.160 They all talked to him.

01:18:11.380 And Trump is an insanely charming and, yes, very funny individual.

01:18:15.620 And they were all laughing at his jokes.

01:18:17.440 And they know exactly who he is.

01:18:19.060 But then when election season comes up, they know they have to ramp up the mindless drones

01:18:23.940 into an endless panic that Hitler's coming back.

01:18:27.860 And so they stand up and they tell people, Hitler's coming, Hitler's coming, Hitler's coming.

01:18:31.860 And you have all these single women on anti-anxiety meds freaking out.

01:18:35.800 Oh, my gosh, the world's going to end.

01:18:37.920 And then as soon as the election's over, they go yuck it up and talk about the meat lover's

01:18:42.020 pizza they're going to share that night.

01:18:43.640 I'd be mad if my politicians lie to me all the time like that.

01:18:46.620 I get mad when the GOP lies to me, which they do routinely.

01:18:49.900 So maybe Democrats should do the same.

01:18:53.060 Here is one drone who is upset about all the warnings that this was Hitler.

01:18:59.520 And his takeaway is not, they said he was Hitler and it was a lie.

01:19:04.200 His takeaway is, he is Hitler.

01:19:08.080 And why is no one talking about how I am now going to be protected?

01:19:12.420 Before I play this soundbite, the guy's name is Anand Giridardus.

01:19:18.680 He's an NYU, I think, adjunct professor at the journalism school.

01:19:25.980 Watch.

01:19:26.080 What a shock.

01:19:27.700 I think people may be wrong to pick the proxy fight of Obama should not laugh at a joke.

01:19:32.540 But I think we have to take seriously the emotion of feeling undefended.

01:19:36.680 Did this administration rightly warn throughout the last year that Donald Trump represented

01:19:42.600 the singular authoritarian threat to America?

01:19:45.900 Have we been provided by this White House in its last weeks any practical guidance for

01:19:51.620 how to live under what it claimed was fascism around the corner?

01:19:54.260 I am being warned and told that the apocalypse is near.

01:19:58.180 But in actual ways, I am not defended by anybody.

01:20:04.220 I need practical guidance and I need to be defended.

01:20:07.740 Can you imagine being a man and speaking like that?

01:20:10.800 Yeah, well, that's how that's I mean, you're half a man if you vote Democrat anyway.

01:20:14.560 But I don't understand that mentality anyway, Megan.

01:20:18.080 If somebody told me that I couldn't go on the lawn, my front lawn, because there were landmines

01:20:23.520 on the lawn, and then I turn around and that person was walking around the lawn drinking

01:20:28.080 a cup of coffee, I would think that person is a horrific liar who perhaps didn't have

01:20:32.680 my best interest at heart.

01:20:34.240 Yet these people get lied to repeatedly and all they do, maybe it's a Democrat thing, is

01:20:39.380 bend over and say, thank you, sir.

01:20:40.960 May I have another?

01:20:41.900 I don't understand that way of thinking.

01:20:43.900 I can't relate to it at all.

01:20:45.420 But whatever, have a miserable life, sick freaks.

01:20:49.480 Anand, you really shouldn't be teaching this shit to journalism students in particular,

01:20:53.500 that you need the government to protect you from the Hitler who just won re-election.

01:20:59.620 Like, this is the message, I guess, to the incoming class of journalists, which means we're going

01:21:04.120 to have a lot more of what we have had.

01:21:05.960 I will say this in defense of male Democrats.

01:21:08.800 The normal ones who are not woke or evil, whatever we're calling the wokesters these days,

01:21:14.400 they have all sorts of reasons why I understand they vote for Democrats.

01:21:18.260 And I know and love a lot of them.

01:21:20.960 But I do think if you're looking around at this world as it stands now and thinking that

01:21:26.000 you're getting better policies and better results with all Democrat rule, whether it's

01:21:31.020 a place like Canada or it's a place like California, you're blind.

01:21:35.120 You're blind.

01:21:36.060 It's not that you deserve to have your home burned down, but you are going to get a lot

01:21:41.320 more just like that if you continue voting against your own self-interest to make yourself

01:21:48.020 feel like a better person.

01:21:50.760 Jesse Kelly, you're a better person.

01:21:53.660 That's why it's always a pleasure talking to you.

01:21:55.500 Always learn something and always get a different POV.

01:21:57.760 Thanks for being here.

01:21:59.300 Appreciate you, Megan.

01:22:01.000 All right.

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01:23:20.640 A couple of other important stories to get to.

01:23:26.840 Do you remember the day last year when Joe Biden reversed Title IX with a wave of his magic

01:23:37.880 administrative wand where he took a statute that was passed by Congress to protect girls

01:23:45.260 and women in sport and with the magic wand completely gutted it.

01:23:50.820 Just saying, you know, oh, all it is is an administrative rule enforcing Title IX.

01:23:54.680 That's all we did.

01:23:55.380 It's just like, this is just guidance on how we're going to enforce it.

01:24:00.200 But really what he did was completely gut the entire statute by saying Title IX no longer

01:24:05.540 just applied to girls and women.

01:24:06.720 It applies to boys and men pretending to be girls and women.

01:24:12.180 I mean, it completely stood the rule on its head because one of the main fights, the, no,

01:24:17.680 the main fight that's happening under Title IX right now for the protection of girls and

01:24:22.300 women is to keep men pretending to be us out of our sports and our sports facilities and

01:24:27.920 our private spaces in school.

01:24:29.160 And this affects K through college.

01:24:32.940 Well, Joe Biden thought he knew better.

01:24:34.520 Joe Biden, who's having tranny show up on the White House lawn and show off their fake tits.

01:24:38.120 Sorry.

01:24:39.440 Thought he would, he would do better on this than the U.S. Congress, which had duly passed

01:24:45.160 the law and decided or someone pretending to be the weekend at Bernie's president pushed

01:24:51.460 through this rule change, which completely undermined the rule of law and the principles behind

01:24:58.900 it.

01:24:59.540 And it was a before and after moment for me personally, because it was the first time I've

01:25:04.560 ever come out on the air in public and said who I voted for in an election.

01:25:12.180 I had never done that.

01:25:13.200 And frankly, it started a path that got me ultimately speaking for Trump the night before

01:25:18.300 the election.

01:25:19.000 You know, once I had crossed that line, it wasn't so hard to cross the next line to say

01:25:22.200 like, and this is who I'm voting for in the next election and why I think you should

01:25:24.540 vote as I do.

01:25:25.700 And so like this Title IX thing is very deep and personal to me and to most women I know

01:25:32.320 and most dads, not just women, men too, who have daughters in the system and who are worried

01:25:37.980 about this issue.

01:25:39.460 So just as a flashback, here is the day it came out.

01:25:43.200 We had thrown out our show and decided to just talk about this abomination.

01:25:47.860 And here's what happened.

01:25:51.320 It must be undone.

01:25:56.080 Do not comply.

01:25:59.020 The rules don't take effect until August.

01:26:03.340 Don't comply.

01:26:04.800 Don't use their language.

01:26:06.720 Protect your daughters.

01:26:08.160 Fight.

01:26:09.000 Protect your sons.

01:26:11.480 Speak up.

01:26:12.540 Don't comply.

01:26:13.700 Don't comply.

01:26:14.720 Don't let your child play the pronoun game.

01:26:17.940 Don't you play it.

01:26:19.420 This is going to be taken up.

01:26:21.100 They're not going to get away with this.

01:26:24.260 And indeed, now, that was April in January of 2025.

01:26:29.500 It has been taken up and the rule has been struck down nationwide.

01:26:36.500 The rule is dead.

01:26:37.740 God bless the judge who did it and the states who brought the lawsuit.

01:26:43.960 State after state after state joined together to say, absolutely not.

01:26:51.280 They want you to believe Trump is lawless.

01:26:55.480 Trump has made a mockery of the justice system.

01:26:59.380 Joe Biden tried to rewrite the definition of women without a single lawmaker weighing in.

01:27:07.000 You know, never mind that it's God's decision and it's been rendered.

01:27:12.760 He tried to do this behind closed doors and just say it was all about equity and you were a bigot if you disagreed.

01:27:19.880 Well, Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio, Indiana, Virginia, West Virginia joined together and said, no, we are filing legal challenges to this absolute nonsense.

01:27:33.620 And one of those lawsuits that they all joined in on led to this decision yesterday on Thursday.

01:27:39.940 The rule had already been temporarily blocked in 26 states as a result of these more red states joining together.

01:27:49.060 But now it's officially stopped.

01:27:52.620 It's been definitively ruled against thanks to a judge named Danny C.

01:27:58.460 Reeves, R-E-E-V-E-S of the Eastern District of Kentucky in a 15 page opinion, which just excoriates Miguel Cardona and the Department of Education for trying to do this.

01:28:12.840 Saying, you may not lawfully expand the definition of Title IX to prohibit discrimination based on gender identity as opposed to sex, which is the governing standard, which means male or female.

01:28:30.920 Female are protected by Title IX.

01:28:33.080 And expanding it to people who identify as female guts the rule.

01:28:38.640 That's what the judge found.

01:28:40.860 The entire point, he wrote, of Title IX is to prevent discrimination based on sex.

01:28:48.500 Throwing gender identity into the mix eviscerates the statute and renders it largely meaningless.

01:28:56.140 Right on.

01:28:57.760 Right on.

01:28:58.720 Reading more here from the New York Times write-up of the decision.

01:29:04.940 Citing the courts, the Supreme Court's sweeping decision in Loper Bright Enterprises versus Raimondo last year, which limited the regulatory power of federal agencies.

01:29:16.000 Remember, we talked about this, how the Supreme Court ruled last term.

01:29:19.500 The days of, like, letting these administrative agencies, also known as the deep state,

01:29:23.300 have this sweeping sort of legislative power that nobody voted that they could have, are over.

01:29:29.360 This sort of Chevron deference, as it was known.

01:29:31.840 We're not doing that anymore.

01:29:33.680 You don't, these are unelected bureaucrats.

01:29:35.760 They don't get to gut federal legislation because, you know, finger in the air, all the times have changed.

01:29:41.740 We think men are women now.

01:29:43.360 No, that's not the way it works.

01:29:44.880 So, continuing here, citing the court's sweeping decision, which limited the regulatory power of federal agencies,

01:29:52.980 Judge Reeves wrote that the Biden administration had overstepped when it sought to enforce its new interpretation of Title IX through federal rulemaking.

01:30:02.740 But more significantly, the judge also rejected, listen up, this is important to you,

01:30:09.200 the revised rule on free speech grounds.

01:30:15.040 Okay, so it wasn't just, you don't have the power to legislate.

01:30:17.960 You're a bunch of unelected bureaucrats.

01:30:19.460 That was a part of it.

01:30:21.160 But equally important was the First Amendment piece of the ruling,

01:30:24.240 which affects all of us when it comes to these ridiculous preferred pronouns that are being forced down our throats,

01:30:32.540 not just in the Title IX context, not just you will call him a her and let him play softball against your daughter,

01:30:41.220 but in the work context, in every context, state after state, including New York, including Connecticut,

01:30:47.760 are trying to make it amount to, statutorily, either under the civil rights laws or for civil liability purposes,

01:30:56.780 hostile work environment, if you don't call the he's a she at their request.

01:31:02.780 They're trying to mandate the preferred pronoun thing into mandatory pronouns in order to be equitable and kind.

01:31:12.940 And they don't care that you're eliminating, you're erasing women and girls and doing it.

01:31:18.340 Well, no more.

01:31:20.020 Not according to this judge.

01:31:21.620 And we'll see whether this goes up.

01:31:23.880 Good luck.

01:31:24.380 I hope you do appeal it.

01:31:25.560 I hope in the time Joe Biden has left, they file an appeal of this.

01:31:30.680 Because I'd love to see this reinforced by the Supreme Court.

01:31:33.880 It already really was in 303 Creative.

01:31:36.080 It really already was.

01:31:37.200 You remember that case where the woman refused to do the wedding website for the gay couple?

01:31:42.620 And they came out and said, this is free speech.

01:31:44.640 She's allowed to say, I don't stand for this.

01:31:46.640 I don't support this.

01:31:48.260 Okay.

01:31:48.580 They say, this is the Times right up.

01:31:51.960 More significantly, the judge also rejected the revised rule on free speech grounds, writing

01:31:57.560 that it, quote, offends the First Amendment by potentially requiring educators to use names and pronouns associated with a student's chosen gender identity.

01:32:08.440 Not just the pronouns, but the names, the names, the new fake names that these schools are suddenly, oh, okay.

01:32:16.180 Joe is suddenly Georgina.

01:32:18.260 And we're going to have to go along with that.

01:32:19.440 No.

01:32:20.060 If you're a teacher who says, I don't believe in that.

01:32:22.140 I'm a Christian.

01:32:22.920 My God tells me he doesn't make mistakes.

01:32:25.240 He doesn't make a boy secretly a girl.

01:32:27.880 I'm not doing that.

01:32:29.560 You're protected under this ruling so long as it doesn't get reversed and it's not going to.

01:32:34.360 Don't worry.

01:32:37.120 Put simply, the First Amendment does not permit the government to chill speech or compel affirmance of a belief with which the speaker disagrees in this manner.

01:32:47.020 Yes.

01:32:47.860 Yes.

01:32:48.660 Right on, Judge Reeves.

01:32:51.740 Right on.

01:32:53.100 Here's some more.

01:32:53.960 Here, the court goes on to say, the court remains persuaded that the final rule offends the First Amendment for the reasons explained earlier in a prior memorandum.

01:33:03.800 To recap briefly, the final rule's definitions of sex discrimination and sex-based harassment combined with the diminishing, whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, let's see, require Title IX recipients, including teachers, to use names and pronouns associated with a student's asserted gender identity.

01:33:20.760 While the department insists that this is not necessarily the case, the new subjective harassment standard that need only limit participation in an educational program or activity quite clearly compels this result.

01:33:32.040 So that's them saying, you can't say that this is not really happening.

01:33:35.600 You're making teachers engage in this fallacy.

01:33:38.360 And they shouldn't be, you can't compel them to do that.

01:33:40.580 Now, look, this is a federal district ruling, federal district court, that's not the Supreme Court, that's two tiers down from the Supreme Court.

01:33:47.720 But this decision had such weight in gutting the actual rule that no one's disputing it has nationwide effect, that the Title IX rule is officially done, as Joe Biden tried to revise it.

01:34:01.500 And now what we have to see is whether it gets appealed, whether that ruling gets appealed.

01:34:06.700 And here's the really interesting thing.

01:34:08.840 In 10 days, Donald Trump is going to be the president.

01:34:11.740 Hallelujah.

01:34:13.100 And what are the odds that his DOJ appeals this?

01:34:18.260 I don't think any.

01:34:19.600 I don't think they will appeal it.

01:34:20.680 Even just to get it to the Supreme Court right now, I don't think they'd do that.

01:34:24.860 This ruling stands, and it will be used by many other plaintiffs and other courts who are trying to challenge mandatory pronouns like this.

01:34:32.160 And that's a plus.

01:34:33.340 That's a benefit.

01:34:34.480 And over the next four years or plus, right, like anybody who tries to file a challenge trying to force these pronouns down our throats or tries to redefine the definition of women and girls does so at great risk.

01:34:47.060 With this Supreme Court, rulings like this, one after the other, get on the books.

01:34:52.040 And don't forget, we're already waiting for a ruling from this Supreme Court that's related in this lane.

01:34:56.900 So my point is simply that the lawfare, same as the lawfare against Trump, is failing for the left.

01:35:05.200 The ACLU is failing in its attempts to make boys girls legally and to make the rest of us pretend we agree with that.

01:35:14.300 And the Supreme Court, I think, is weeks or months away from doing the same.

01:35:20.980 Thank God.

01:35:22.880 Thank God.

01:35:25.640 Thank God.

01:35:26.340 Thank God.

01:35:26.700 Thank God.

01:35:27.000 Thank God for these lawyers, these attorneys general who went in there and did what was right.

01:35:33.220 Thank God for the presidents who have appointed rational judges who understand the law and not identity politics as a filter through which they view the law.

01:35:46.460 And thank God President Trump won, because when he gets in there, he is going to undo the Biden changes to Title IX anyway.

01:35:54.040 Let's not forget, there's a lot of problems with that law.

01:35:56.140 He not only completely effed over women and girls, he also effed over young men on college campuses, remember, by completely lowering the standards by which they can be accused and convicted of being sexual assaulters or harassers and thrown off campus.

01:36:10.080 President Trump's going to restore all of those protections.

01:36:12.000 He, all of them, he's going to restore due process in Title IX, and he's going to actually change the wording of the rule officially back to what it was.

01:36:22.220 But this is just one small area.

01:36:24.540 He's going, there's no more, there's not gonna be any more pressure or guidance from the federal government guaranteed that it's a hostile work environment if you choose not to say somebody's preferred pronouns.

01:36:35.420 All that shit is ending.

01:36:36.680 These are, I think in most people's minds, the minor victories of Trump, you know, like, most importantly, let's get the criminal killers out of our country who crossed the border illegally.

01:36:47.020 That's, yes, that's number one.

01:36:48.180 We're going to be seeing all that on day one.

01:36:50.100 You know, let's make America great again.

01:36:51.800 Let's restore economic prosperity for all groups across all spectrums, irrespective of race and identity and all that stuff.

01:36:58.760 Um, but this is big too, and there are a bunch of us who've been fighting for these changes.

01:37:04.480 The list is too long.

01:37:05.720 So many great women and men, but I'm just thinking of so many women who have devoted themselves to this issue over the past 10 plus years.

01:37:11.740 And the legal eagles who have been devoting themselves, including Alliance Defending Freedom, which is involved in this, and these attorney generals, who have made the difference here.

01:37:19.600 And by the way, those of you who make donations to these groups, you know, the Independent Women's Forum, they've been amazing, ADF amazing, to try to get the funding for these lawsuits so that we can get these right rulings to protect our daughters.

01:37:32.800 Well, it's happening.

01:37:34.660 So man alive, that's great news, is it not?

01:37:38.660 I'm thrilled about that.

01:37:40.840 All right.

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01:38:28.980 And last but not least, thank you for putting up with what has been a kind of fuzzy-headed, thick-tongued week for me, given this ridiculous, cold, flu.

01:38:44.040 I don't know what I had, people, but it's been a rough one.

01:38:47.380 But I'm feeling better.

01:38:49.220 My roid rage is non-existent.

01:38:51.920 It's good.

01:38:52.360 I took the steroid back.

01:38:54.920 Doug made it through on scathe, so that's good for him.

01:38:56.960 And I would say just make sure that you wash your hands when you're out in the public, because that's what happened.

01:39:04.320 I ventured out to Montana, went to a lot of restaurants, and before you knew it, I wasn't feeling too great.

01:39:11.720 On the bright side, Doug's been a champion.

01:39:13.980 I've been doing a lot of work with the kids and doing, like, the drive so that nobody gets sick with me in the small car.

01:39:18.680 And I finally started True Detective Season 1 with Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson, which is excellent, though disturbing.

01:39:27.400 And I watched some very weird show about, it was called Sweet Bobby, about a guy who was catfished.

01:39:37.440 That's interesting.

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