The Megyn Kelly Show - November 10, 2026


Shock Call to Execute Elon Musk, Hegseth Impeachment Push, and Truth About Absurd Puff Piece, with Matt Taibbi | Ep. 1438

Calley Means Unloads on Trumpworld, Schumer Faces Revolt, Pilot's Father Speaks Out: AM Update 11⧸9 Russell Brand's Friend on the TRUTH, Meghan Markle's Father Back in Jail, and Diversity Over Excellence in Culture, with Heather Mac Donald | Ep. 1439

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00:00:00 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.
00:00:12 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Tuesday.
00:00:16 There is more fallout from insane podcaster Jennifer Welsh's despicable comments about Charlie Kirk, 0.99
00:00:24 plus Kara Swisher's co-host.
00:00:28 This guy's unbelievable.
00:00:29 He was on this show once, Scott Galloway.
00:00:32 He seemed kind of reasonable and professorial and had a lot of thoughts on things like young
00:00:38 men and what their problems were.
00:00:39 And we provided him with a forum to say all that stuff.
00:00:43 He has since gone insane, like there's something seriously wrong with him now.
00:00:48 He has been repeatedly pushing for Elon Musk to be executed.
00:00:54 That, and he is openly bragging that before he sold his Tesla, so disgusted was he with
00:01:03 Elon, he actually defecated in it and then sold it to some innocent consumer. 0.98
00:01:10 This is the host with Kara Swisher, the hateful, disgusting Kara Swisher, both of them. 0.96
00:01:18 And their commentary is about the level of what he left on the passenger seat of that 0.93
00:01:23 Tesla. This is disgusting. These people are so disgusting. What's with all the calls for
00:01:29 violence on the left and the, and the, you know, let's just kill our enemies talk from that insane 1.00
00:01:35 podcaster, the ugly Jennifer Welsh. And I mean that term in every when, in every sense, 1.00
00:01:41 Dave Chappelle, a disgusting fool. And now this Scott Galloway. I like, and everybody around him 1.00
00:01:49 is like fine with it. Ha ha ha. So funny. I mean, it's like it's disgusting. It's pathetic. And it
00:01:56 really does speak to the corrosion of our society and our civil bounds that we used to operate
00:02:05 within when having political disputes. I mean, been around for a long time. We've been having
00:02:10 these political disputes for a long time and heartfelt, tough ones like about the Iraq war.
00:02:16 I don't recall it ever being quite this unhinged.
00:02:21 And now today we have the effort to impeach Secretary of War Pete Hegseth, which is heating up, and he may be in a lot of trouble.
00:02:29 Ted Cruz, actually, of all people, offering some commentary on where this is likely to go and was not predicting a good outcome for Hegseth.
00:02:38 Joining me now, Matt Taibbi. He's founder of Racket News on Substack.
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00:03:46 Matt, welcome back. Great to have you. Thanks. We'll get to all the crazy-ass calls for
00:03:53 killing people in a second, but let's just start with the Hegseth thing. And I'll give you what's 0.93
00:03:59 the headline is that Thomas Mathey has introduced, Massey, eight articles of impeachment against
00:04:04 Pete Hegseth, for what it's worth, Jonathan Turley says he doesn't think much of six of them, but two of them he thinks may have some legs.
00:04:14 But Ted Cruz. Now, I think this is kind of interesting, the thing about Ted Cruz, because now keep in mind, Ted Cruz is likely going to run for president in 28.
00:04:22 And there's some buzz that Pete Hegseth may have eyes on running for the presidency in 28.
00:04:29 So he could be looking at him as a potential competitor. 0.74
00:04:32 Um, they also have a lot in common because they're both very pro war, very pro war, very pro Israel. So I would have expected him to have Pete's back potentially, but I don't know because they could be political rivals just trying to factor in alleged or potential biases here.
00:04:52 But here's what Ted Cruz said on his own podcast on the 9th, which is yesterday, right? Today's the 10th, about Pete's chances. Watch.
00:05:04 Listen, one of the reasons the House has been out of session for a couple of months,
00:05:07 and the reason they've been out of session is because they didn't have the votes
00:05:12 to stop a Hegseth impeachment back in September.
00:05:17 Either Hegseth is going to step down, either he will resign voluntarily or Trump will fire him,
00:05:23 or if that does not happen, I think it is extremely likely, if not certain,
00:05:29 that the House will impeach him, because on the face of it, the votes are there.
00:05:32 If that happens, it then goes to the Senate, and the Senate has the responsibility of conducting the trial.
00:05:38 Now, if it happens now during the lame duck, it's possible that the majority still under Republican control could dispose of it.
00:05:45 If he resigns now and the president nominates a new defense secretary, we can confirm the new defense secretary.
00:05:53 If he resigns or is fired next year, we can't confirm a replacement.
00:05:59 okay so he's making a push to he's saying pete's toast and saying let's just get it over with now
00:06:08 while we have control of the senate we can control the up or down vote on his replacement pete
00:06:13 came out today in a presser and just went at it uh here's a bit in slot six i'll get right to it
00:06:22 What one disgruntled and defeated congressman is attempting is not oversight, and it's not accountability.
00:06:30 It's a political spectacle, a personal manifesto driven by ego and resentment.
00:06:36 Time for one man's final days in Congress to try to do damage to this president, this country, and most irresponsibly, the warriors who defend it.
00:06:47 it's a farce and it's a stunt and everybody knows it one final point pete in his clever move
00:06:58 tried to paint this about criminalizing the actions of our soldiers among the other items
00:07:04 that have been raised in the impeachment articles are the attacks on the venezuelan
00:07:08 drug boats uh the iran war and the alleged quote kidnapping of nicholas maduro out of venezuela
00:07:17 Those are all actions that our troops have participated in.
00:07:20 But Thomas Massey is taking issue with the commands, not the issue, not the behavior of the troops.
00:07:28 That's not to say that the Democrats might not go there if this floodgate is opened.
00:07:34 I don't know. But here's just Pete trying to really talk about how this endangers our warriors.
00:07:41 Sot 9.
00:07:43 To be clear about what this resolution actually does.
00:07:45 It tells our enemies, Iran, the cartels, every adversary watching that the United States will 0.68
00:07:52 actually punish its own warriors and its own civilian leadership for successfully executing 0.77
00:07:58 lawful military operations. It tells them that a single rogue legislator loaded with personal
00:08:05 animus for the president can attempt to veto national security decisions made by the duly
00:08:11 elected commander-in-chief. It puts a target on the backs of American warriors by signaling that
00:08:18 Congress will undermine their missions in real time. This is not patriotism. This is sabotage.
00:08:28 You know, five years ago, America was humiliated in Kabul, Afghanistan, and every enemy on earth
00:08:33 took notice. But somehow, as the president pointed out yesterday, no impeachment vote
00:08:39 for lloyd austin for that terrible withdrawal fair point uh certainly on that last point so
00:08:46 what do you make of the attempted impeachment of pete hegseth well it's a it's a fascinating case
00:08:54 um i'm a little torn on the issue because on one hand we have been um sort of skirting the uh
00:09:04 rule that basically the Congress has to have some oversight over decisions to go to war
00:09:11 for my entire lifetime. The specific conditions that HEGSF is being charged
00:09:19 with misusing, the Article II powers of the Constitution have been used over and over again
00:09:26 for unapproved, congressionally unapproved military strikes dating back to the 80s.
00:09:33 We've had a whole slew of military actions since 9-11 that were approved under the AUMF.
00:09:42 Now, that doesn't come into play with these Hegseth cases, but in none of these, was there any kind of proper congressional oversight?
00:09:54 And the thing that Hegseth is talking about, where you might have a civilian official who's punished for essentially legally executing a legal order, that wouldn't happen if we had followed the procedure that we've historically followed, which is Congress approves our decision to go to war in some fashion or another.
00:10:19 So but what's hypocritical about this is that nobody ever said a thing before when it was Biden or Obama or Bush or Clinton or Reagan or any of a dozen, you know, a number of other presidents doing essentially the same thing.
00:10:36 Right. I mean, as for the Venezuelan drug boat strikes, at least they weren't Americans. That's who Barack Obama was killing without any congressional approval. Like he didn't get impeached. Like his secretary of war didn't get it. Defense at the time didn't get impeached. It feels a little selective.
00:10:56 The Obama case is really instructive because, you know, in that case, the administration essentially wrote itself a legal memo and it got around the Fifth Amendment requirement for due process by saying that a process that may not involve the defendant is still some kind of due process.
00:11:19 In other words, as long as we discuss it amongst ourselves before we drone somebody to death who might be an American citizen and his son, that counts as due process.
00:11:32 And that somehow nobody said a word.
00:11:34 There was no discussion about impeaching the president after that.
00:11:40 And that was crazy.
00:11:41 I will grant that, you know, no lawyer that I've spoken to has said that they can think of any kind of legal justification that would cover the Venezuelan drug boat bombings.
00:11:55 However, that's still better than assassinating an American citizen without trial.
00:12:01 Mm hmm. Mm hmm. I mean, I don't know. Ted Cruz has got an interesting point, you know, that they're definitely going to have the votes to impeach Pete once the Democrats take over.
00:12:14 I mean, clearly they've won control of the House and it seems like it's going to wind up right now that they're still counting in a lot of jurisdictions.
00:12:21 We've got some 40-seat majority, but it's going to go up, we think, double that for the Democrats.
00:12:26 So there's going to be zero problem impeaching Pete Hegseth once the Democrats take over.
00:12:31 And I know the audience knows this, but just as a reminder, an impeachment is basically an accusation, like an indictment.
00:12:37 Excuse me, the actual trial on the charges would happen in the Senate.
00:12:41 And you need two-thirds of the sitting U.S. senators, which is 66 senators, and they're not going to have that.
00:12:48 I mean, the Democrats are going to have 54, maybe 56 to get an extra 10 from the Republican side to vote to impeach the sitting secretary of war.
00:12:58 I mean, to vote to convict. I just I don't know about that.
00:13:03 But there is a concern. There's a concern that there will be enough Republicans rattled by this last, you know, election.
00:13:12 and worried about some of those not entirely kosher actions by the Department of War
00:13:20 or, like, not obviously kosher, you know, not beyond all question,
00:13:26 that they might actually vote with the Dems and convict him.
00:13:31 Because, like, just the impeachment doesn't get rid of him.
00:13:34 You have to be convicted, and that would get rid of him.
00:13:37 Right. There would be a trial, I think,
00:13:39 And Jonathan Turley pointed to two of the eight charges that would be probably the most likely to come close to passing or resulting in a conviction would be the extrajudicial killings in the Venezuelan boats.
00:13:57 And the other one would be the the the threatening Mark Kelly.
00:14:03 Yeah. And, you know, if they if they win a conviction in those cases, it's very, very unlikely.
00:14:14 But what I'd be most curious to see is whether they go back to instituting some kind of hard and fast rule about not doing that in the future or whether this is a one off about punishing just members of the Trump administration. 0.96
00:14:30 I think this is very dumb politically. 0.93
00:14:33 Like this is, it's Massey. 0.99
00:14:35 It's not a Democrat. 0.98
00:14:36 I mean, I think it's dumb for Massey too. 0.89
00:14:39 Massey has staked out this ground. 0.94
00:14:40 Obviously he's bitter because he got primaried
00:14:42 by a Trump candidate and lost.
00:14:43 But like Massey has staked out this area
00:14:48 that's been proven correct.
00:14:51 He tried, he demanded justice on Epstein
00:14:53 and more disclosure.
00:14:54 He won that.
00:14:55 But now the bill that was passed as a result of him has enough holes that you could drive a truck through it.
00:15:02 But at least we got it. We got it thanks to him.
00:15:05 And then the Iran war, which he was also right about. 0.84
00:15:10 Why do this?
00:15:12 Like, why not let the Democrats just come in and do what they're going to do?
00:15:16 Why take this on as an outgoing Republican congressman?
00:15:21 Like, it just I think it makes you look petty.
00:15:23 it will, I think, have the effect of rallying the Trump base to some extent. That's kind of mad at
00:15:30 Trump right now, but they're not going to like this. They don't want to start to see Republicans
00:15:33 impeaching Republicans. I mean, it's getting a little exhausting. How many times has Trump
00:15:40 been impeached? If this becomes a thing that just happens willy nilly with every administration that
00:15:46 comes in uh you know the public is going to get tired of it uh very quickly in fact i think that
00:15:54 was a lot of what was going on with election night last week is just the frustration over the
00:16:00 the back and forth between the two parties um so yeah i agree i'm not sure that this would be a
00:16:06 politically winning move but uh you know uh it's been hard to predict what what wouldn't
00:16:13 wouldn't that be popular in this this environment i don't think this is going to be popular i just
00:16:19 i feel like i i don't get it i genuinely don't get it and by the way whatever pete's done he's
00:16:25 done at the request of trump so this is just this is kind of like when the republicans impeached
00:16:30 mayorkas as dhs secretary it was like okay if he's definitely not enforcing the border that's for
00:16:38 sure. But it's because of the old man with, you know, putting for a brain who's technically in
00:16:45 the White House and in charge of these policies who, when he was still somewhat there, had said
00:16:50 he was erasing all of Trump's policies at the border. He undid all executive orders with his
00:16:55 own executive orders. So it's like we're kind of engaging in a fiction here that Pete Hegseth is
00:17:01 to blame when these are the policies of Donald Trump. Yeah, and I think the public would be
00:17:07 all in favor of a permanent move back toward having some kind of a process that would be more 0.70
00:17:14 formalized for going to war. I mean, most people don't even know where we have military actions in
00:17:21 the world now. I remember, you know, in the last, actually, I think it was in the 2016 election
00:17:28 cycle, we had active military operations in over six countries at the time of the election. And
00:17:34 Most people didn't even know where we were, and that's because we no longer have national debates about it.
00:17:40 People would probably approve of a system that didn't allow us to just, on a whim, go into any country we wanted to.
00:17:50 But if it's just about Donald Trump and just about Pete Hegseth, then this becomes a much weaker maneuver, I think.
00:17:59 Well, you need congressional approval if you're going to declare war, which they don't.
00:18:03 And they just do these sort of little military incursions, incursions, Matt, interest like like like the Iran war, which is a war, although Mark Levin is out there still trying to say it's not.
00:18:18 It's just a military operation. That's all just an operation. Oh, OK. All right.
00:18:22 I mean, dropped a bunch of bombs on them. We destroyed their navy. Feels a little worry.
00:18:27 But OK, so on that front of the Iran war, Pete Hegseth, one of the things he spoke to today was J.D. Vance saying the day after the midterms, we lost because of the war, because our party wants more distance between us and Israel, wants America first and wants this war to end.
00:18:53 And Pete Hegseth spoke to that a bit in Sot 12.
00:18:56 I respect the vice president greatly, and I'm certainly not going to exchange any finger-pointing.
00:19:00 And thankfully, politics is not really my thing.
00:19:03 I do the Department of War, making sure we're prepared and ready.
00:19:06 So a lot of people are going to look at the conflict and assess it.
00:19:10 And the vice president has been a critical member of the team in every aspect of this,
00:19:14 and we're grateful for all the input he's given me personally in our department.
00:19:18 And I think going forward, we're going to learn all those lessons and apply them.
00:19:22 But I I agree with what the president said when he said, hey, if if I had to do this all over again, would we do it again?
00:19:28 Absolutely. It's it was done for the right reasons to ensure Iran never gets a nuclear weapon there.
00:19:35 As Marco Rubio said, I think quite well, it's not necessarily popular, but it may have been necessary.
00:19:43 And that's the line that's being pushed by President Trump himself.
00:19:46 Like, you know, people were reacting to it, but it was the right move.
00:19:53 I don't know how that's going to fly with the electorate between now and 2028.
00:20:00 And I would suggest, Matt, that they're going to need to abandon that talking point as a front and center piece of their rhetoric.
00:20:07 I mean, I really think I realize they can't.
00:20:10 And President Trump's incapable of coming out and saying I made the wrong decision.
00:20:13 But I think people are so angry over the war that if Pete Hexeth actually does have hopes of running for president or Marco Rubio, who was also out there defending it.
00:20:25 In fact, let me play you what he said at CPAC Mar-a-Lago the other day because he weighed in.
00:20:31 All these potential 2028 contenders are weighing in.
00:20:34 And here's Rubio in SOT 20.
00:20:38 This is November 6th.
00:20:39 The most important thing the president can do for a country is to keep it safe.
00:20:43 And there are people around the world that want to destroy you.
00:20:46 They want to destroy our country.
00:20:47 They want to destroy our way of life.
00:20:49 He was elected to do the hard things.
00:20:51 The hard things.
00:20:53 It would have been very easy to do what multiple presidents before him have done,
00:20:56 which is ignore the Iran thing, leave it for the next guy, put it aside and don't worry about it.
00:21:00 That would have been the easiest thing to do, honestly, to just basically say, leave it alone, who cares? 0.98
00:21:04 That's going to be someone's problem in the future.
00:21:06 But this president didn't do that. 0.95
00:21:08 He confronted it because what Iran wants to do is not just destroy our country, it's destroy our way of life. 0.97
00:21:13 and threaten our children. We cannot live in a world in which the most radical terroristic regime
00:21:18 on the planet possesses a weapon of mass destruction. And we've had president after
00:21:22 president ignore it and allow it to linger. But this president wasn't allowed, wasn't elected
00:21:26 to ignore it. And he wasn't elected to allow threats to linger. And he did it for you,
00:21:31 not for him, not for anybody else. He did it for you. Oh, please. He did it for Israel. That's so
00:21:36 obvious. We all know that. Marco Rubio is the one who told us that the day after we launched the
00:21:41 Iran war. And by the way, Matt, all that nonsense, that's a defense of what happened in June 2025,
00:21:49 not what happened on February 28th, 2026. So you've got Rubio now and Hegseth carving out the
00:21:57 it was the right move, irrespective of the electoral consequences. I mean, I'm sorry,
00:22:03 I don't agree with that, with the electoral consequences of that decision are so catastrophic,
00:22:08 We're only beginning to start to feel them.
00:22:11 But you can see lines are being drawn on 2028.
00:22:15 J.D.'s over here.
00:22:16 Those two are over here.
00:22:18 Yeah.
00:22:18 And I would argue that Trump was elected to not go to war.
00:22:24 That was the primary reason for the amount of support that he got in 2024.
00:22:33 war um some of the people who were uh key supporters of his in that election cycle and
00:22:40 also the the decision to make jd vance the nominee uh over rubio was because of a decision within
00:22:49 uh trump's team uh to send a signal in a more anti-war direction and there were two
00:23:01 you know very vocal uh groups within uh trump's camp and the people who wanted to
00:23:09 be a more isolationist uh run a more isolationist campaign won out and that's why
00:23:14 vance ended up being the nominee and not rubio um then the sort of national security state people
00:23:20 were very disappointed that that rubio did not become the nominee so um you know and and trump
00:23:27 By the way, in 2016, I remember watching this. He sort of picked up that every time he mentioned endless wars or pointless wars or made fun of NATO, every time he did that at the next speech, there would be more people in desert colored fatigues standing in the back of his presentations, watching his speeches.
00:23:52 And they ended up becoming a very important part of his electorate in 2016, returning veterans.
00:24:01 And so were people like Tulsi Gabbard and J.D. Vance in 2024.
00:24:07 So this decision, it's been catastrophic to his presidency.
00:24:12 There's no other way to look at it.
00:24:14 I agree.
00:24:18 Now, it's like out of the frying pan into the fire.
00:24:21 I don't know why Trump is now floating amnesty on the on the heels of this massive loss.
00:24:27 Right. Like the base already feels betrayed. Maybe there's no more base.
00:24:31 Maybe that's the reality here. I mean, I myself said this the day after Tuesday last week, also known as Wednesday, when I said, what what is MAGA?
00:24:41 If MAGA, it only exists when Trump is on the ballot, then MAGA's dead.
00:24:47 There is no MAGA.
00:24:48 There's nothing to MAGA electorally that we should be thinking about, talking about, or considering in any way, shape, or form.
00:24:55 They're irrelevant if Trump's not on the ballot.
00:24:57 So, okay, goodbye.
00:24:59 We've got to move on without them.
00:25:01 Um, but I do think that there's still Trump voters, shall we say, who felt very betrayed
00:25:08 over Epstein, felt very betrayed over the Iran war, felt very betrayed over the amount of grift
00:25:12 that we've seen in and around this administration and still reeling, you know, so disgusted were
00:25:20 they that they actually pulled the lever for Democrats. I mean, and they did. Whites pulled
00:25:24 the lever for Democrats. Men pulled the lever for Democrats. Young men and young people in general 0.91
00:25:29 Pulled the lever for Democrats, working class, non-college, under 50,000, under 100,000. 0.50
00:25:36 They all pulled the lever for Democrats.
00:25:37 All those groups were Trump voters and went for Democrats this time.
00:25:42 And Trump gets on 60 Minutes on Sunday night and basically promises amnesty.
00:25:49 I mean, he says, he doesn't say the word amnesty, but he's asked specifically what he's going to do.
00:25:55 Do we have this sound, but I'm looking at my list.
00:25:57 I played it yesterday. But in any event, maybe we can pull it over you guys. It's clear as day
00:26:04 where Trump says he's interested in striking a deal. He wants to think about the landscaper or
00:26:10 the house cleaner or the hotel cleaner, he said, who's been here for a long time. And the only
00:26:15 crime they committed was coming across the border illegally. And, you know, Douthat says,
00:26:23 do you mean allowing them to stay here? And he says, yes, yes, that's what I mean.
00:26:28 Then realizing that this is extremely unpopular and that he's caused quite a stir.
00:26:34 Here it is. Let's watch it.
00:26:36 So you think your deportation policy went too far?
00:26:39 It was too tough.
00:26:39 I think it might be too tough. Yeah.
00:26:41 What would happen? What does the deal look like with the Democrats?
00:26:43 Ultimately, that hurt me. Well, the deal would be we would work something out.
00:26:47 And I think it's something I think that's something that's actually doable,
00:26:50 doable to create some kind of some kind of legal status for the landscapers and yeah when you go
00:26:56 into a hotel and you have a woman that's worked there as a you know as a maid as a cleaner as a
00:27:02 this as a that as a waitress a lot of good things great jobs and all of a sudden they're being taken
00:27:08 out of the country it's tough it's a tough thing but there's a group of people that i would say on
00:27:13 the sort of pretty far right that would like everybody taken out do some of them group of
00:27:19 Do any of those people work in your administration?
00:27:22 Are they in the building with us right now?
00:27:23 No, no.
00:27:24 Well, there are a lot of those people.
00:27:25 Then there's also people that are more modified on that.
00:27:28 In other words, get the killers out, get all the rough ones out, get the drug dealers out.
00:27:34 But let the people that are here, and in some cases here for 10 and 15 years, work a deal for them.
00:27:42 I mean, it's unambiguous what he's talking about.
00:27:44 Work a deal.
00:27:46 Work a deal. 0.89
00:27:47 Work a deal.
00:27:47 We'll work out a deal.
00:27:49 And then realizing the pushback, Matt, he tries to come out at a White House briefing room presser yesterday and says the following.
00:27:59 We have a very strong deportation policy. There's no amnesty, no, no anything.
00:28:05 We keep that. But we focus on the worst of the worst.
00:28:09 We want to get the murderers out. We've got most of them out.
00:28:12 we've gotten most of the really bad you know they they allowed joe biden allowed 100 well
00:28:18 uh 25 million people to come in of that 11 888 murderers most of whom committed more than one
00:28:27 murder we've gotten most of them we want to get the worst of the worst and then we'll see what
00:28:32 happens but they came in illegally many of them have good jobs now they're productive some of
00:28:38 were even paying taxes. And we're seeing what's going to happen. There won't be amnesty. Somebody
00:28:43 suggested, will there be amnesty? No. But they came in, they knew the law. And we're working
00:28:49 with a lot of different groups to see whether or not. But my policy hasn't changed. What we are
00:28:54 doing is absolutely the worst of the worst. OK, that is amnesty. And everyone knows it. As James
00:29:02 Fishback posted on X, Trump. I love cheese on top of red sauce on top of dough. Us. Pizza? Trump.
00:29:09 I never said that. Yeah. So this is funny because he's done this several times before. I was
00:29:19 actually in a pool of reporters who were traveling with Trump in August of 2016 when he said there
00:29:27 certainly can be a softening uh because we don't want to hurt people and the very next night he
00:29:33 came out and said uh there's no amnesty as such there's no amnesty but we work with them um so it
00:29:40 was exactly the same process uh the i don't know why he does this because he always ends up back
00:29:46 in the place of zero tolerance and no amnesty but every now and then he does blurt out these things
00:29:53 about, you know, being willing to work with people who, you know, have been here for a long time.
00:30:02 Amnesty.
00:30:04 I mean, I just remember the reaction of other reporters saying, he said what?
00:30:09 And that was a long time ago.
00:30:11 That was already, you know, 10 years ago.
00:30:15 And now, you know, it seems like he's losing a little bit of his political instincts and just trying things out.
00:30:26 And that's much harder to do when you have an established political record as opposed to a new candidate, which is what he was in, you know, 10 years ago.
00:30:35 I mean, most of the political pundits I respect on the right agree that any kind of amnesty, any kind, will be a catastrophic event for the Republican Party from which they will not recover for years to come.
00:30:57 It doesn't matter how many Democrats support it, how many independents support it, or even how many sort of chamber of commerce Republicans support it.
00:31:06 It is so objectionable to the working class base of the Republican Party that it truly would devastate what is left of an already devastated party. 0.61
00:31:18 And like, I just think it doesn't matter because I was just looking at the polls and the polls show there is support. 0.80
00:31:25 Like here's Gallup, allowing immigrants living in the U.S. illegally the chance to become U.S. citizens if they meet certain requirements over a period of time.
00:31:33 Combined, either strongly support or favor, 75%.
00:31:37 Opposed, combined, 25%.
00:31:40 The problem for Trump is those 25% are all Republicans.
00:31:46 They just are.
00:31:48 and they will feel so betrayed and angry that it will absolutely forget it.
00:31:56 There'll be no Marco Rubio. There'll be no J.D. Vance.
00:31:59 There will be no Republican nominee from the Trump administration if this is what he tries to do.
00:32:05 And he thinks it'll help his legacy with like the left or the independent middle.
00:32:12 It won't. They hate him and they're going to continue hating him,
00:32:16 Even if they managed to use him to get a couple of their agenda items through.
00:32:21 Yeah. And the proof is in the pudding here with the behavior of the Democratic Party in the last election cycle in 2024, when Kamala Harris and the Biden administration completely backed off their own immigration policies in the last election year.
00:32:40 The polling was overwhelming.
00:32:42 It was abundantly clear that it was a winning issue for the Republicans in 2024, that it had been early in this Trump presidency.
00:32:56 So I have no idea what he's doing.
00:32:59 This is not a situation where he's going to win any votes by going back on those policies.
00:33:06 Maybe changing the execution of the policies might win some popularity.
00:33:13 I don't know.
00:33:14 But but not the policy itself, which was very popular.
00:33:18 I like the electorate sometimes sways like this, like that number is coming on the heels
00:33:24 of what we saw in Minnesota and nonstop media coverage condemning ICE as evil and so on.
00:33:30 I mean, the media was disgusting in the way it covered ICE trying to do its job.
00:33:36 not to say that there weren't controversial incidents, but I mean, it was like there was
00:33:39 nothing even attempting approaching fairness. But we saw the numbers exactly the other way
00:33:46 after four years of an open border under Joe Biden. So, you know, they sway back and forth.
00:33:51 But I do think like amnesty every other time we've tried it, it has led to more illegal
00:33:57 immigration. It is an invitation. It is a red carpet down in Mexico. I just think this will
00:34:03 be catastrophic. They absolutely should not do it. And it also doesn't make any sense. Why would
00:34:08 you make Stephen Miller your chief of staff if you're actually getting ready to do this? Now,
00:34:13 Trump is the boss and the chief of staff is not as powerful in a Trump administration as they have
00:34:17 been in other admins because he's so heavy handed a leader. So he'll tell Stephen Miller what the
00:34:23 policy is going to be, not the other way around. But I can't imagine Stephen Miller's not trying
00:34:27 to encourage him to reconsider this because he knows he knows very well what this will do
00:34:33 yeah who knows i mean maybe he's pulling some kind of andy kaufman routine on 60 minutes it's
00:34:40 hard to say what he's doing but um that's not going to help him politically i don't think what
00:34:46 that so now those of us who would like reason to prevail we want like normal people who aren't
00:34:57 going to fleece the American public once they get into office, who aren't going to be absolute
00:35:04 nutcases once they get in there, are just left in the wilderness because we're going to be ruled
00:35:09 by people like Peggy Flanagan and her land acknowledgments. Matt, it's a problem. And you
00:35:16 look over at the left, you know, when you're trying to like comfort yourself, like, all right,
00:35:21 divided government. I like divided government, to be honest. Like, I think most Americans like
00:35:25 divide a government because it stops them from doing anything. And I don't want them to do
00:35:30 anything because they're not. It's been a long time since they've done anything for us. They
00:35:33 usually do something to us that we don't like and that takes decades to reverse. So there's that.
00:35:40 But you look you look across the landscape over there at, you know, what's on the left and you
00:35:48 see people like Scott Galloway, Kara Swisher's podcast co-host, and I think a self-styled
00:35:58 intellectual in his own right. And he, again, as I said at the top, used to be kind of normal.
00:36:05 He's lost his mind. It's sad. Some people can't exist in the digital space without really losing
00:36:13 their tether on what the normal standards of behavior are, like what the normal bounds of
00:36:20 ideas and political combat look like. And that's him. So first, he is on his Pivot podcast with
00:36:30 Kara Swisher, and he says the following about Elon. This was on November 3rd, SOP 28.
00:36:37 The West Coast is littered with multi-trillion dollar companies. And you get to the Canadian
00:36:41 border, it stops. You get to the Mexican border, it stops. And yet these individuals are quick to
00:36:46 credit their grit and their character for their success and blame the government for their
00:36:50 failures. The fail is that we have begun believing through this ridiculous, unhealthy and dangerous 0.85
00:36:57 idolatry of innovators that they get to live by an entirely different standard. Elon Musk is a
00:37:03 traitor to the West. It's uncomfortable and weird because we've decided someone who's a trillionaire
00:37:08 makes a great EV and can land a rocket on scissors is held to a different standard. 0.93
00:37:14 We lined up the Rosenbergs against a wall. 0.99
00:37:18 This is a traitor to the West, and you should be held to the same standards as every other 0.99
00:37:24 traitor in the West. 0.98
00:37:27 Wow. 1.00
00:37:28 He didn't say let's kill him, but once again, it's a I want the food product that has red
00:37:34 sauce and cheese on top and dough underneath.
00:37:36 We know what that is.
00:37:37 We know exactly what you're saying. We know what happened to the Rosenbergs. He says it there himself. And then he says Elon Musk is just like them, a traitor who should face the same penalties. 0.71
00:37:48 And just in case you think it was a one off, like, oh, he, you know, was shooting off his mouth that like got ahead of himself.
00:37:54 Here he is again on the same day on a different podcast.
00:37:59 Sat-29. We took the Rosenbergs and put them up against a wall and executed them for being 0.98
00:38:06 traitors. And I realize this is an incendiary statement, but I'll make it and I believe it. 1.00
00:38:12 I think Elon Musk is a traitor to the West. And I think what is even more dangerous is this
00:38:18 zeitgeist within America that the idolatry of innovators and money has created a cloud cover
00:38:24 such that traders to the West are not seen as traders to the West, that if this had happened
00:38:31 in any other age where we were not obsessed with innovators and money, a much different reaction
00:38:38 would be playing out to Elon Musk. This is crazy, Matt. It's completely shocking. I think you're
00:38:48 right about the people in sort of the internet era and the podcast era uh almost daily we have
00:38:57 yet another person who sort of falls off um you know the plank of sanity uh into the ocean and
00:39:04 they're just gone for forever they're they're never coming back we do and you know i think back
00:39:12 to the early days of trump's first presidency when he went to helsinki and we had these banner
00:39:19 headlines everywhere saying treason um you know because he i guess didn't have a hostile enough
00:39:26 meeting with vladimir putin at a conference now treason has a very specific legal meaning uh it
00:39:35 only applies in very narrow circumstances it's a capital crime accusing somebody of being a traitor
00:39:41 is clearly liable like it's the kind of thing that i would never i would be terrified to do
00:39:47 in public um it clearly does not apply here there's no possible way you could make it fit
00:39:54 uh to call this treason it it doesn't even uh it's excluded legally like it only it happens
00:40:02 during in the middle of a declared war but even so even to colloquially claim that is
00:40:10 absolute lunacy uh incidentally i have my own differences with with elon but elon has has
00:40:17 among other things um been threatened uh you know by other countries they've tried to drag him in
00:40:23 for questioning um you know for failing to abide by uh foreign censorship rules uh and you know
00:40:32 he's not specifying galloway's not specifying any crime that he's committed uh he's been railing
00:40:40 about the starlink starlink the public starlink being shut down for ukraine to use to drop bombs
00:40:46 but the military version of starlink remained available to them like he's got an obligation
00:40:51 some legal obligation to leave starlink available i like this is what he's been railing about but
00:40:57 the truth is matt he doesn't like elon he and kara swisher can't stand elon they've been ripping
00:41:03 on him weekly since long before the ukraine thing well right that's all you have to do 0.98
00:41:09 doing on it with these audiences you just have to stand up and say this person sucks i hate this 0.98
00:41:14 person they should be shot and and in many cases it works um yeah then they are yeah in some cases 0.93
00:41:24 they are right and that's what's terrifying about this uh this environment that we're in um we have
00:41:31 uh you know again once upon a time i hate to be all back in the day about it but public figures
00:41:38 used to be very hesitant to use to accuse people of, you know, serious crimes, to accuse them of
00:41:46 sex crimes, to accuse them of all kinds of things without hardcore evidence, like confirmed 50 ways
00:41:53 over. And they don't even bother trying very hard anymore. They just simply lob out these things
00:42:01 because they know it's going to get a lot of clicks and because their derangement syndrome
00:42:09 is so all-consuming you know there is a trump derangement syndrome and there is an elon
00:42:15 derangement syndrome and both of those two have it in droves you you raise a good point you and
00:42:21 he had this whole falling out over the twitter files you don't have elon derangement syndrome
00:42:26 you can report on him fairly you can hit him if he needs to be hit you can defend if he needs
00:42:30 That's how I am with Trump. Like, I don't have any derangement syndrome. I can recognize the good things and I can recognize the bad things. Why is that so rare?
00:42:38 Well, what's so strange about it, I think, Megan, like, you and I just don't get emotionally involved with the news in the way that these people do. Like, this is almost like a religious thing for people who are, they pour their whole selves into these sort of debates between left or right, Republicans and Democrats.
00:43:04 and it means absolutely everything to them uh you know it has a significance that no sane person
00:43:11 would afford these issues like if you have an actual life if you have a you know a wife and
00:43:17 children or a family um you're not going to stay awake at night thinking about elon musk i mean
00:43:24 i'm sorry no right would you i mean it's no absolute insanity no matter how much you might
00:43:32 dislike the person, he should be well below 100 on your list of concerns on any given day,
00:43:42 but not for these people. For them, this is the most important thing in the world.
00:43:50 Well, and here's all the evidence we really need to see that Scott Galloway
00:43:56 has truly lost his mind.
00:43:58 Here he is describing what happened
00:44:01 when he sold his Tesla because of Elon.
00:44:06 I had a Tesla, great car. 0.96
00:44:09 You started shitposting me on Twitter, 0.96
00:44:11 so I sold it not before taking a giant dump 0.99
00:44:13 in the passenger seat.
00:44:15 True story.
00:44:16 Not good for resale value. 1.00
00:44:19 What a disgusting pig. 1.00
00:44:21 I mean, who would be that deranged? 1.00
00:44:23 What is he, six?
00:44:24 I mean, really, like that's witty. 1.00
00:44:29 It's stupid is what it is. 1.00
00:44:32 I mean, I'm all in favor of stupid humor. 1.00
00:44:35 You can go as as low as you want, as long as it's actually funny. 0.99
00:44:41 But that's not funny.
00:44:42 It's not even close to funny.
00:44:45 Could you imagine trying to pass that off as a as a witty line to somebody like Mark Twain or Oscar Wilde?
00:44:52 This guy imagines himself an intellectual. 1.00
00:44:54 that's just stupid and it shows that you yes you're you know a little bit you know out of 1.00
00:45:01 your mind at this point um yes you know what think of i mean a grown man car are you crazy 1.00
00:45:09 seriously so like that's that's what i can't get past like you're right there's a lack of
00:45:15 intellectualism there and he's treated like an intellectual so please pardon us for not agreeing
00:45:18 But the crude, disgusting nature of what he says is a true story that he did.
00:45:28 I mean, think about it.
00:45:29 He waited until he had to go.
00:45:31 He got into his own car.
00:45:33 He dropped trow, and then he dropped something else in his own car just to feel better about a man who is a stranger to him,
00:45:42 who is currently working on curing blindness and paralysis
00:45:47 has actually made progress with his Neuralink
00:45:50 in putting a chip in the brain of paralyzed people
00:45:54 and helping them communicate with their brain
00:45:58 onto the computer screen to reflect their thoughts.
00:46:02 It's miraculous.
00:46:03 I mean, this guy is changing the world
00:46:05 in so many profound and great ways, 0.99
00:46:08 but he would like him shot. 0.97
00:46:10 We knew the left wanted him locked up. 0.98
00:46:11 he wants him shot and then at some point he decided to sell this tesla so he had to go in 1.00
00:46:17 and clean up his own shit so the only one he really hurt was himself 0.99
00:46:24 and now wants credit for it i'm sorry but i'm just trying to imagine what was going on 0.99
00:46:35 in his mind as he was cleaning up um you know was he patting himself on the back i showed him
00:46:41 Like, yeah, exactly. Like, yeah, this is great. I'm on a real roll now. Like, what?
00:46:49 It's the same way, like Trump, like, destroys his most ardent enemies who truly have the TDS
00:46:58 without having to lift a finger. You know, like they catch the disease. It eats their own brains
00:47:04 and they self-destruct. That's what's happening to Scott Galloway in front of our very eyes.
00:47:09 And by the way, I actually have a really interesting legal question about whether said purchaser can now demand a refund and return the Tesla.
00:47:19 I actually am going to save this for a Kelly's court because I have a good feeling that they can get out of this deal.
00:47:25 That would be an interesting one.
00:47:29 I wonder if there are additional penalties that could be tacked on as well.
00:47:34 If he sold it as is, then no deal. 0.98
00:47:38 you can't return it but like if certain warranties were made like i didn't shit in it 0.94
00:47:43 which every car from scott scott galloway is gonna need now 0.88
00:47:50 then then he could get sued unbelievable it's just it's totally crazy and uh and people are
00:48:00 just they're down with it this is this is a rallying cry for folks um oh yeah they they
00:48:08 they laughed they clapped um of course it's not just scott galloway that was elon derangement
00:48:14 syndrome there which is plentiful on the left but we spoke on this program yesterday with the
00:48:19 audience about the dave chappelle comments on charlie kirk which were so despicable after after
00:48:26 charlie defended him after dave chappelle was attacked on stage and charlie actually got was
00:48:35 on Dave's side and really thought that there should be penalties to what happened. And Dave
00:48:40 Chappelle gets on stage at Madison Square Garden and says SOT 31. I feel fucked up saying this. 0.99
00:48:48 It's scary being a public speaker. And I mean, look, ever since that guy, Charlie Kirk got 0.99
00:48:58 murder and i i shouldn't say this publicly but i feel better
00:49:07 i know i shouldn't say that but it's just a feeling
00:49:14 i didn't ask to kill this way i'll just be driving around like why am i in such a good
00:49:19 it's a laugh riot matt yeah i mean i'm such a chapelle fan that i feel like giving him a
00:49:31 mulligan i'm not i'm not sure uh what he was going for there uh you know i read the full
00:49:37 context of that whole um diatribe i i guess he was trying to it doesn't make it better
00:49:46 It doesn't make it better. No, I read it, too. Yeah. And, you know, he's cloaking it in basically saying that after Charlie Kirk got murdered, it's been better for free speech somehow.
00:50:01 Now, I it doesn't make any sense, which is disappointing because Chappelle has been one of the few public figures who's been willing to stand up and say the unpopular thing during this this time period and be funny about it while doing.
00:50:16 And then he got up. But then and then a second later, he got up there and said, I know I'm sure Charlie's looking up at us right now, laughing so hard he can't breathe as if Charlie's in hell.
00:50:27 This wasn't like some light touch on Charlie about free speech.
00:50:30 It was about Charlie's dead, he's happy, and Charlie's burning in hell, 1.00
00:50:34 which is just so fucked up. 1.00
00:50:37 This is like, it's so insensitive. 1.00
00:50:39 It's just like Galloway to me and deeply offensive.
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00:52:06 a publication well worth your time. Matt, one person who did not find any humor in
00:52:13 dave chapelle's comments was charlemagne the god who's been on this program here's what he said
00:52:18 in sat 34 yeah i don't find the human people getting clapped okay any of us can be shot
00:52:24 and i don't want anybody getting shot because somebody disagrees with their opinion so yeah
00:52:27 you have the freedom to you know joke and talk about whatever you want to joke and talk about
00:52:31 but personally i don't want to deal with the energy of that like i don't wish stuff like that
00:52:35 on my worst enemy good for him i appreciate him saying that there was no one more deplorable
00:52:41 though, than the angry podcast lady, Jennifer Welsh. But you could say that about virtually
00:52:48 any topic on virtually every day. She's always got the most vile, crass, disgusting take 1.00
00:52:56 one can have. She's in trouble at the moment and losing advertisers by the second for what 1.00
00:53:04 she said about Charlie Kirk. That's not like, that's not even the most controversial thing
00:53:10 she has said she thought it was hilarious that charlie died she joked about it i guess we'll 0.98
00:53:15 start with that one here it is uh from her podcast november 5th with her idiot co-host 0.99
00:53:21 angie sullivan sat 35 uh dead morose says we're digging up charlie kirk and doing it again 0.99
00:53:27 i'm zooming into the fox
00:53:37 no comment no comment no comment on that other than he was shot by somebody that was
00:53:53 super maga family he was shot by a maga person right okay so right do that with what you will
00:53:59 white person, white MAGA family. Well, as I point out, that's not even close to 0.66
00:54:06 the most controversial thing that she has said. They have said, here's just a little in SOT 38.
00:54:12 So when you think about the Erica Kirks, the Life Church, the Joel Osteen of it all,
00:54:20 and their desire to accumulate wealth while hoodwinking their flock into thinking they're
00:54:27 super moral. This is a cancer. White evangelical Christianity is a cancer. These are the worst
00:54:36 of our country. These are the worst people in our country because they use their religion in two 1.00
00:54:43 ways, as a weapon and as a shield. They weaponize it whenever they want to and say, we're on the 0.97
00:54:49 moral high ground. You're a lesbian. You deserve to die. You're a lesbian. The cops shouldn't have 1.00
00:54:54 revived you. Oh, your parents are Mexicans and they brought you over here? Yeah, you should go 1.00
00:55:01 to jail and eat worm food. And then when you call them out on it, oh my God, they're after the
00:55:07 Christians. How dare they? How dare they? We're so oppressed. White Christians are so oppressed
00:55:14 in this country and they want it both ways. So white evangelical Christianity is a cancer 1.00
00:55:20 and white Christians celebrate when lesbians die. 1.00
00:55:25 That's not what happened. 0.97
00:55:26 I don't know if that's a reference to what happened in Minnesota,
00:55:29 but there was not a celebration that Renee Good died.
00:55:34 There was some defense of the officer who pulled the trigger.
00:55:38 But this is the kind of mind virus that this person operates under.
00:55:44 Here's one more, just a montage of some of her comments. 0.97
00:55:47 shockingly the conservatives that i thought were just crusty old white people have morphed into 0.92
00:55:54 this young group of misogynists and i can tell you when i'm around white people they test the 1.00
00:56:00 racist water they test it on people like you all steven miller is a nazi and he is a sociopath 0.99
00:56:08 he is a little insecure white supremacist this guy was bullied in high school and he's unattractive 0.99
00:56:16 and he's four foot ten and nobody likes him get to jd vance who is a failed drag queen because 0.97
00:56:22 little moses mike grinder johnson worships two things donald trump and his closeted life for
00:56:30 this dementia ridden diaper wearing sack of he started off his 60 minutes interview by saying
00:56:37 I am not a Nazi. 0.83
00:56:39 Okay?
00:56:40 He clearly, clearly is a Nazi. 0.95
00:56:43 People that triple Trump should be banned, boycotted from enjoying the best thing that 0.91
00:56:48 America has to offer, which is multiculturalism. 1.00
00:56:51 Get your fat asses out of the Mexican restaurant. 1.00
00:56:54 Get your fat asses over to Cracker Barrel because nobody wants to see your fucking smug 1.00
00:56:59 ass, teeny weeny, pink arm, big gut around. 1.00
00:57:04 Nobody wants to see that shit. 1.00
00:57:06 No one. 1.00
00:57:07 The real surprise that she hasn't been canceled before this, she's lost all of her advertisers.
00:57:13 I think all but, last I checked, Quince and one other had pulled, totaling well over an $8 million loss.
00:57:24 And here she is addressing it at Crooked Media's Crooked Con on November 9th, yesterday, SOT 37.
00:57:32 At first, I was just kind of like, you know, F them.
00:57:35 It was a joke.
00:57:36 Move on down the road.
00:57:37 Of course I condemn gun violence. I just oppose gun violence in all of its forms. So this morning
00:57:44 I decided, because I'm getting about 400 death threats a minute on my Instagram, and the death
00:57:50 threats from these people that are offended by my laughing at the joke are, I can't believe you
00:57:55 laughed at Charlie Kirk. We can't wait for you to die, C-U-N-T. So the selective outrage is on 1.00
00:58:04 them, but I'm responsible for me and me apologizing. Don't think I'm going soft. I, you know, I, I
00:58:10 still think TPSU, a TP USA, Charlie Kirk and their movement. I stand against everything. I want an
00:58:18 inclusive world, a nonviolent world. I want common sense gun reform, but it's better because I have 0.91
00:58:25 ascended and I have so many listeners. I want to keep my side of the street clean. Okay. I, 0.87
00:58:32 I follow the podcast charts. I know exactly where the top podcasts stand. She's never been there.
00:58:40 She's nowhere in the running. I don't think she is ascendant any place other than in her own mind.
00:58:47 And now she's lost virtually every single advertiser she had, which is appropriate.
00:58:53 She should be on her own. She should be on a direct to consumer basis.
00:58:57 if people want to pay $10, $15 a month to consume that garbage, they can. That'll be their 1.00
00:59:03 relationship with the devil. That's on them. But what kind of a sane advertiser would get behind
00:59:10 filth like that? Yeah, I don't know. When she said, she mentioned the best that America has
00:59:18 to offer, I thought she was going to say plastic surgery because she used to have had so much of
00:59:24 I mean, I'm sorry, I shouldn't go there, but it just, I mean, she's, it looks like someone, all she does is talk about people's looks, a winch handle in the back. It's, it's unbelievable. But the, yeah, this is a classic example of a person who, I mean, all they're about is just winding people up.
00:59:50 And then, you know, and then to plead for sympathy, her whole show, her whole act is ridiculous. 0.63
00:59:57 It was always shocking to me that it had even a temporary response. 1.00
01:00:03 But but who knows now, maybe they'll make a free speech martyr out of her now and she'll she'll find her way back.
01:00:11 I doubt it. But, you know, the other thing is, it feels like none of these people have ever watched Charlie Kirk's actual show.
01:00:18 I mean, of all the people to be upset about on the right, Kirk would have been the last person I would complain about if I were, you know, a hardcore leftist or a liberal.
01:00:33 He is exactly the wrong kind of person to caricaturize as, you know, a hater.
01:00:43 He was a discusser.
01:00:44 You might not have agreed with him, but he was civil, which is a big step up in this world. And it's remarkable that nobody seemed to bother to take the time to find that out. That's another enduring mystery of this whole thing.
01:01:01 They believe the lies of the New York Times and Nicole Hannah-Jones. 0.64
01:01:07 I guarantee you they read it and they believe that he was a racist who hated blacks, black women, and took all those contexts or all those quotes that Nicole Hannah-Jones put up there out of context without bothering to understand, for example, his remark about how he's going to feel when he sees a black pilot.
01:01:28 Now, thanks to these mandates by some of the airlines that they have at least 50 percent black pilots when we don't have even 50 percent black pilots in the potential pool of black pilots.
01:01:41 We have 13 percent black people. We have six percent black men in America and a very, very small percentage of those are going to pilot school.
01:01:49 So how are we going to make 50 percent of the pilots be black unless we lower standards? 0.80
01:01:54 That was Charlie's whole point, saying DEI is corrosive, and because they're doing this kind of thing, just playing with quotas, it's now going to make me and others get on planes.
01:02:04 And if they see a black pilot, instead of under the old system when you knew it was merit-based and you'd say he must have been a badass who went to the Navy or whatever, he earned his way here just like anybody else has, you're going to guess, did they lower the standards for him? 0.99
01:02:18 Oh, shit. It's a very honest point. It's actually not controversial at all, but it's been used to bastardize Charlie and his legacy for the better part of a year. 0.99
01:02:29 And honestly, it was used to bash him while he was alive by people with an agenda.
01:02:33 Yeah. And if I remember correctly, there was some misquoting that went on with him.
01:02:39 All the time.
01:02:40 You can disagree with that commentary if you want.
01:02:46 You could say he could have put it in a different way that would have made it a more accessible thought for people on the left.
01:02:56 But he didn't say it in the way that it was reported that he said it.
01:03:03 More than that, though, if you have any exposure to Charlie Kirk, if you watched any of his broadcasts, I mean, I was curious about him.
01:03:12 I had read lots of negative things about him and was very surprised when I watched him to find that he seemed to be trying to find some kind of middle ground with people when he talked to them, which is it's almost so rare now that it comes across as like a gimmick or it came across as a gimmick.
01:03:35 But it wasn't with him. I think he was he was a genuine person, which, again, is another thing that should have been celebrated at the time.
01:03:46 That's why this whole thing about rejoicing in Charlie Kirk's death is just mysterious.
01:03:52 Like, I have a hard time believing that Dave Chappelle actually watched Kirk's act.
01:03:58 I just don't think he did. He read maybe.
01:04:02 And he's a low information voter who should shut his mouth about a man who was a decent father to two babies who will grow up without their father now, thanks to that gun violence, which Jennifer Walsh wants to call the assassination, the political assassination of Charlie Kirk, that he should shut his mouth about it. 0.98
01:04:25 I don't want to hear another fucking word out of Dave Chappelle on Charlie Kirk unless it's on this show and he has the balls to say it to somebody who was actually friends with him. 0.99
01:04:33 Do you have the balls, Dave Chappelle? 1.00
01:04:35 Let's see. 0.99
01:04:36 Why don't you come on?
01:04:37 You have an open invitation.
01:04:38 You tell me the day.
01:04:39 I will clear the schedule.
01:04:41 You can come on here and say it directly to me.
01:04:43 He won't do that.
01:04:45 He'd rather say it to his people at Madison Square Garden who don't have the ability to fight back or the information.
01:04:51 Well, I am not a low information voter.
01:04:53 And I will be prepared with facts, Dave Chappelle. So come on any time. I feel very differently about him than you do, Matt. I didn't realize he was this disgusting. I really didn't. Thought he was like kind of non-woke and wasn't afraid to like poke the bear on things that were like, you know, untouchable like Michael Jackson or he dealt with the trans issue in a way that was brave.
01:05:20 I didn't think he was just cruel and a dick. 0.97
01:05:23 And that's what I saw in that clip. 0.96
01:05:25 Yeah, and it also felt more than a little bit like, you know, if I do this, I'm going to get some of this audience back, you know, which also wasn't really like him.
01:05:39 Like, if you go back in his past, he did a lot of it didn't said a lot of things that that, you know, he had to know we're going to lose him audience and did him anyway.
01:05:51 And so it's it's always shocking when somebody who has a history of not pandering to this or that political side starts doing it.
01:06:03 So, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
01:06:06 I'm not sure how to explain that one.
01:06:08 but yeah yeah um speaking of pilots in the sky just want to spend one minute on this because
01:06:15 we've been talking a lot about the learjet that went down and just it's so disturbing and a lot
01:06:20 of people's first instinct including my own to be honest when i heard it was a 20 year old female
01:06:26 co-pilot was is this the dei situation you know like was there incompetence in the air
01:06:32 and it very much looks like it had nothing to do with that that she was a very competent co-pilot
01:06:38 She had 1,300 hours under her belt.
01:06:40 She wasn't the pilot in charge.
01:06:42 She was the co-pilot.
01:06:43 And that audio tape of when that plane went down
01:06:46 showed her being, I mean, under the circumstances,
01:06:51 actually incredibly calm, cool, and collected.
01:06:54 You know, there were a couple of moments where she screamed,
01:06:57 which is human, given what was happening to her.
01:07:00 But to the last second,
01:07:02 this young woman relayed the circumstances
01:07:06 of what the plane was going through
01:07:08 so that air traffic control and of course the NTSB would know. And long after the pilot in
01:07:13 charge had switched to praying, she was still relaying information and trying to give data
01:07:20 that she had to know at that point would only be examined posthumously in her case.
01:07:24 So tip of the hat to her. I wanted to mention this because it was a sort of an extraordinary thing.
01:07:32 There is a meteorologist at NBC Orlando, and he's also a pilot. His name is Eric Burris. And he has a theory. He was basing it on another man's theory, another pilot, I think, who posited that there is a possibility because we had Captain Steve come on of YouTube and tell us ultimately he thinks that it was those thunderstorms, of course, that brought down this plane and the ice on the wings and so on.
01:07:58 but that it is ultimately the pilot's responsibility to see the weather like air
01:08:04 traffic control should tell you and should help you but when all is said and done it's the pilot's
01:08:11 responsibility to know what the weather situation is and behave accordingly and virtually every
01:08:17 pilot has said since like you just don't fly in a severe thunderstorm you definitely don't fly in
01:08:21 severe turbulence and the learjet in particular has some issues that would make you avoid that
01:08:25 like the plague. And now we've played audio of another plane approaching the thunderstorms and
01:08:30 being told to basically go into them by air traffic control and him saying, I'm not. No,
01:08:35 I refuse. And turning his jet around. You know, I don't know if these pilots just didn't have the
01:08:39 experience. The pilot in charge was 55 years old, but we don't know how long he'd been flying. He
01:08:45 certainly was licensed in 2016. I just don't know how long prior to that. In any event, here is the
01:08:51 theory of the Orlando meteorologist and pilot Eric Burris when it comes to how they may have
01:08:56 not seen those storms. One of the questions that has come up a lot is if this was a jet that had
01:09:04 Doppler radar or weather radar, how did they not see this thing? And there's a very interesting
01:09:10 kind of component to that. All right. So you're flying along and you're coming up on a thunderstorm.
01:09:15 If you're flying it straight ahead, especially if you're in a spot like they were, they were
01:09:19 more of an ice phase environment where it's not big, precipitable moisture or so. So they probably
01:09:25 got weak radar returns, if anything. But that onboard radar can tilt. And if they had tilted
01:09:31 down, they would have seen that stronger storm building up near the radar, super light returns.
01:09:38 But look if it would have been tilted down by about five degrees. Using the resampling of the
01:09:43 Doppler radar, they would have seen that storm build up out ahead of them just before they
01:09:48 penetrated the storm, the height was at 31,000 feet. As they penetrated it, it got to 40,000
01:09:55 feet above them. And then right after they went through, it went back down to about 33,000 feet.
01:10:01 So it was rapidly growing and then rapidly collapsing. In other words, there was winds
01:10:05 going rapidly up and down and they went right through it at perhaps the worst possible time.
01:10:11 More than likely, this aircraft was in instrument meteorological conditions. In other words,
01:10:17 they couldn't see out ahead. So just kind of super basic. Theoretically, they were operating
01:10:23 at about 35,000 feet, flight level 350. Their onboard radar showed this, not much ahead of them.
01:10:29 They couldn't see out front. And unfortunately, they were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
01:10:36 It's chilling, Matt. And it does make you think like, I don't know, when your number's up,
01:10:42 it's up yeah i i always feel thankful to any pilot who gets me from any place to any place
01:10:50 um always amazed by people who find ways to criticize the fact that they're able to get from
01:10:57 you know new york to san francisco in four and a half hours or whatever it is uh people can
01:11:04 they can find a way to be unhappy about anything uh pilots are amazing people who do you know who
01:11:11 drive trains are amazing. I mean, um, so yeah, I think we should have your mailman, your mailman
01:11:19 is amazing. I think we should just appreciate everybody who has a tough job just a little bit
01:11:24 more. How, how does the U S mail system get, you know, this, this communication from one place to
01:11:31 another for such a cheap cost? Like it still is like kind of a mystery to me. It's, it's a modern
01:11:37 miracle, but I will tell you of all the things that like that are out there that I just like,
01:11:40 can't quite understand. I don't, I genuinely don't get it is the telephone. I don't understand.
01:11:48 I don't understand how you can pick up your phone and you can talk into it and your voice
01:11:55 can be heard instantaneously in another country, a world away, like a second later. I don't
01:12:04 understand it. It's incredible. And I'll tell you one other thing, my Nana who lived, she was born
01:12:09 in 1915 she died in 2016 she was 101 i did ask her one time what was the most amazing invention
01:12:15 she had seen in that 101 years and i mean we've taught we had the airplane we had the computer
01:12:21 we had so many things and she said it was the garage door opener that's amazing but you'll
01:12:30 still see though people being upset at their phones if they momentarily lose their connection 0.99
01:12:36 In an airport, they'll be yelling at their cell phone like, oh, I've got a stupid thing. 0.91
01:12:44 Like you're speaking to somebody halfway around the world for almost nothing and you're upset about it. 0.99
01:12:51 You got out of bed upset.
01:12:53 You know, I mean, that's true.
01:12:56 You're an unhappy person.
01:12:58 That's really that's the bottom line.
01:13:00 Yes, I agree.
01:13:01 Okay. Back on this topic of journalists and how they perform their jobs. Diana Rossini. Now, Diana Rossini is probably not a name that is on the tip of the tongue for most of our audience. But she is a sports reporter. And the audience may remember she was in the news last April because she'd been working for the New York Times offshoot The Athletic, their sports offshoot.
01:13:27 her prior life had been with ESPN as a sports reporter, and she was all over the news because
01:13:33 it came out that she was obviously having an affair with the head coach of the Tennessee
01:13:40 Titans, Mike Vrabel. She was 43. He was 50. Thank you. Okay. And he moved on to the Patriots. Yes,
01:13:47 he moved to them to 2025. Football's not my world, but journalism is. And the New York Post
01:13:56 found pictures of the two of them
01:13:59 at this posh resort in Sedona.
01:14:03 We're showing the pictures now.
01:14:06 A boutique resort set against the breathtaking
01:14:08 Brins Mesa mountain range.
01:14:12 A page six by telling them that the pair had breakfast
01:14:15 on the patio of the hotel restaurant around 10.30 Saturday,
01:14:19 March 28th, before spending a leisurely hour or so together
01:14:23 at the pool and lounging side by side in a hot tub. Our spy spotted them again that evening
01:14:30 on the private rooftop of one of the hotel's bungalows. Roofs are only accessible from the
01:14:36 two-person bungalows, which cost up to $2,100 a night. Photos show the two hugging at sunset
01:14:44 and weaving their fingers together as they stand face to face. The spy said they saw the pair
01:14:49 briefly dance together. They insisted publicly that they were just there as friends. Matt,
01:14:57 you see, they're both married to other people with kids. They were there as just friends
01:15:02 and colleagues. She, of course, is a reporter and he is a coach. And I can't tell the audience how
01:15:09 many times you and I have been at a gig covering the same massive news event, interlacing our
01:15:14 fingers, briefly dancing together, hugging at sunset, hot tubbing together. 0.99
01:15:23 This was what we know in the business as bullshit. It was utter bullshit. They were clearly caught, 1.00
01:15:33 but it was a much bigger deal than just an affair, which let's face it happens in life.
01:15:38 The problem was she's a reporter and he is a subject slash source.
01:15:47 And the reason I'm bringing this up now is that The Athletic, to its credit, began an investigation, even though they were both denying it.
01:15:56 She was being indignant.
01:15:59 The coach first said to Page Six, these photos show a completely innocent interaction and any suggestion otherwise is laughable.
01:16:06 This doesn't deserve any further response.
01:16:09 Then Rossini said the photos don't represent the group of six people who are hanging out during the day.
01:16:15 Like most journalists in the NFL, reporters interact with sources away from stadiums and other venues. 0.96
01:16:22 Again, this is all spin bullshit. 0.70
01:16:25 Reporters do not behave like this with their sources. 0.97
01:16:27 I have never behaved like this with a source.
01:16:30 Everyone in the business knows this would be completely inappropriate to do.
01:16:34 So the Athletic at first backed her and said the photos are misleading, they lack context, and then it quickly shifted to, we're doing an investigation.
01:16:44 We've got to investigate this, and her coverage will be reviewed.
01:16:49 And ultimately, hold on a second, because this just came out, they, let's see, they did that investigation.
01:16:57 and The Athletic released a report from its internal investigation
01:17:03 that found the relationship gave the appearance of a conflict of interest
01:17:07 and was in clear violation of the publication's standards.
01:17:12 Prior to that, she pieced out of the publication saying,
01:17:16 I don't want an investigation.
01:17:19 In a huff back in April, she said,
01:17:23 accept this letter as my resignation.
01:17:25 It's with deep sadness, but with clarity about what's right for me.
01:17:29 The recent attacks against me have already been addressed between us.
01:17:34 I have nothing to add publicly to what we've said.
01:17:36 I have covered the NFL with professionalism.
01:17:39 She says, I'm over this self-feeding speculation that is simply unmoored from facts.
01:17:45 I have no interest in submitting to a public inquiry that has already caused far more damage than I'm willing to accept.
01:17:52 I've decided to step aside now before my contract expires.
01:17:55 I do so not because I accept the narrative that's been constructed around this episode,
01:18:00 but because I refuse to lend it further oxygen or let it define me in my career.
01:18:04 Mike Vrabel switched his tune to,
01:18:07 I've had some difficult conversations with people I care about, with my family, the coaches, the players.
01:18:13 Those have been positive in production.
01:18:16 I never want to be the cause of a distraction.
01:18:18 There are comments and questions I've answered for the team and with the team.
01:18:21 we'll keep those private. And then of course he sought counseling. Oh, because everybody goes to
01:18:28 counseling. Okay. So he sought counseling, uh, in order to move forward. Well, then it started to
01:18:35 come out that there were pictures of these two. This of course was April of 2026 that this broke,
01:18:41 but then it started to come out all these clips of her ripping on her husband in the nastiest ways
01:18:47 that she thought her husband was boring.
01:18:52 She thought he was average.
01:18:54 She's married to someone average.
01:18:56 If he was beautiful, he'd be all over social media.
01:18:59 She said she did things in Miami I haven't even told my husband.
01:19:02 She spoke about Mike Vrabel being head coach of the Patriots
01:19:06 on a podcast with Bill Simmons.
01:19:08 Talked about shoving Vrabel down your throat. 0.53
01:19:11 She made sure everyone knew she had to close her eyes 1.00
01:19:14 when she had sex with her average husband. 1.00
01:19:17 like multiple comments. And ultimately she had to face this tweet from August of 2021. Okay.
01:19:26 Which is not that long after, um, 2020, when it emerged that there was a picture of the two of
01:19:33 them in a bar getting very intimate with one another. Okay. So this is March of 2020 page
01:19:41 six obtained the, this is in the last spring, but somebody gave them to them after the fact
01:19:47 pictures of the two of them in the dimly lit Tribeca Tavern in the early hours of March 11th,
01:19:52 2020. They sat close to each other while conversing at the bar. They shared a kiss.
01:19:56 They were kissing. They were all over each other. They reported she was, he was already married and
01:20:01 she was engaged. She was going to get married six months later. Um, her legs were in between his,
01:20:07 it was a hole in the wall bar. They were having a glorious time. They were giving each other
01:20:11 pecs a bunch of pecs constantly there was no one in there no one knew who they were I don't even
01:20:16 think the bartenders were were aware said the source and this is when he was at a as the head
01:20:22 coach of the Tennessee Titans and she was an NFL reporter covering them and so this is six months
01:20:28 before she gets married then she gets married and in August of 2021 she tweeted out I keep looking
01:20:41 at my almost four-day-old son, Michael, Michael,
01:20:46 while trying to figure out who are the best Michaels
01:20:49 to ever play and coach in the NFL.
01:20:53 Well, August 2021 is a good amount after March of 2020,
01:20:59 when she was allegedly in that bar canoodling with Mike.
01:21:04 Yeah, with Mike Vrabel, six months before she got married.
01:21:09 And I'm just listing some of the reasons why this became such a big scandal.
01:21:14 It was a very big scandal.
01:21:16 They denied it.
01:21:16 If they had just said, we did something, it's private, don't want to discuss it publicly,
01:21:20 we're dealing with it with our spouses, people would have left them alone.
01:21:24 And then if she had said to The Athletic, I admit it, I'm sorry, and I'm stepping down,
01:21:28 people would have accepted that.
01:21:30 She didn't.
01:21:32 She got indignant.
01:21:32 She played the how dare you card, and this is not factual.
01:21:36 And we all know it is factual. It's obvious. And now she reemerges, Matt, in this puff piece in People magazine. Diana Rossini reveals new NFL projects seven months after Mike Rabel photo scandal. I'm not scared to get back in.
01:21:57 And this is some of the pablum that we read in People.
01:22:02 The best way to describe the last six months for me is heartbreaking.
01:22:07 At the beginning, it was a nightmare.
01:22:09 But People writes, with the support of her husband, Kevin Goldschmidt, who is, I guess, with Shake Shack and loved ones, Rossini navigated a turbulent stretch of her career and is now preparing to return to sports media.
01:22:24 Enter the Rossini Report, a one-hour show that will stream on Bet Us TV's website and an X account beginning Wednesday, November 11th.
01:22:33 This is what the show is going to be about.
01:22:37 It's going to feature somebody, or she will also be a featured contributor on some podcast with a guy named John Wiener, better known as Dugatz.
01:22:46 In a time when it was easy to pile on, and I think people were enjoying watching my career fall apart, John was really bold and loyal, and he was a friend to me.
01:22:57 He said something that stuck with her.
01:22:59 I need my friend to laugh again, and I want to help her laugh again.
01:23:04 I think this show is going to give me that opportunity.
01:23:07 She says she's also found support from dozens of people in the NFL,
01:23:10 team owners, agents, general managers, head coaches, and players,
01:23:14 including, she wants us to know, star quarterbacks.
01:23:17 The absolute best part of this situation has been the loyalty that the NFL has shown me.
01:23:23 They checked in with me almost daily while I wasn't working to make sure that I was staying
01:23:26 connected to football, to check on me as a person, and to just see how I was doing.
01:23:30 It became what Rossini describes as a motivational tour.
01:23:34 I felt like players were texting and calling me to say, get back to work. It's time. Okay,
01:23:40 it's been six months. I think it's pretty poetic that here I was all these years telling the story
01:23:45 about these players going through adversity, and then they became sort of the people that
01:23:50 I was learning from doing this. They didn't just call the week after things came out.
01:23:55 They called all the time just to say, let's go. According to Rossini, one player even texts her
01:24:01 on his way to work at 5 a.m. to ask what she's doing to better herself and reminds her that
01:24:08 you have to stay strong through hard times. I'm using that, she says, as motivation and it's why
01:24:16 I'm so energized. It's why I'm not scared to get back in because I know the people that I cover
01:24:21 are welcoming me back with open arms. And then she goes on to add the lies. They became so out
01:24:29 of control. This was a runaway train. There was nothing I could do to stop it. Once we realized
01:24:34 nothing was going to stop it, it became unhealthy for us to read it. So they unsubscribed from X.
01:24:40 One of the hard parts about this was that a lot of the work I was doing and the things that I've
01:24:47 accomplished got lost. It quickly went from just one moment that people felt was true and erased
01:24:54 years of work. I would not wish this experience on any person ever. But through it all,
01:25:01 I did get an opportunity to not just learn about myself, but my family and our priorities
01:25:07 and maybe some decisions and things I was doing in my career and putting it before
01:25:11 what I really wanted most, which was to be a mom. Okay. And then she finally adds,
01:25:19 the way I'm going to approach stories is going to be very different now. Oh, you mean you're
01:25:23 not going to be sleeping with your sources anymore. No, that's not it. She says, I have
01:25:27 an understanding and an empathy that I didn't have before. I would do stories in the past about
01:25:32 to the best of my ability. And sometimes now I reflect on those. And I don't know if I always
01:25:36 thought about how much this would affect, not just the player, but a team and organization,
01:25:41 the players' families. Now that I've been at the center of this attention and understanding,
01:25:45 this wasn't just something that shook me. It affected my 94-year-old grandmother,
01:25:50 my cousins, family members I haven't even spoken to in years. It just had a really lasting effect.
01:25:55 And I don't necessarily know if I ever really thought about that as much as I should. But
01:26:00 being out of the spotlight helped Rossini discover the best version of herself. I really hope I can
01:26:08 be someone other women see. You can pick yourself up, get back out there and not be afraid. Because
01:26:17 if you just do the work, Matt, and I hope to continue working at a high level. That's all
01:26:23 that's going to matter. And I hope that quiets the noise. Fuck off People Magazine and Diana
01:26:30 on this absurd, ridiculous, poisonous spin that takes zero responsibility for what she actually 1.00
01:26:39 did. I was going to say that's almost like that's got to be a Guinness record for not being 0.50
01:26:45 introspective at length um that that's more words not looking at your own conduct um in the middle
01:26:56 of a scandal than i i can remember anybody uh putting forward it's really amazing i mean look
01:27:04 it's a complete no-no for men or women you don't sleep with your sources like that you can't pay
01:27:10 yes you can't give favors to your sources um financial or otherwise right like it's usually
01:27:18 a career ender uh and for her to even be contemplating coming back this early uh is
01:27:25 remarkable uh you know also she talks about it like it's been 10 years in siberia and six months
01:27:32 she was off and like she's the victim in the whole thing um the the husband uh first of all
01:27:41 why he didn't boot her out the door the instant this happened is is is remarkable i i remember
01:27:47 being told this a young person that um you know somebody who cheats on you somebody who talks
01:27:54 about you behind your back those are both you know just end it immediately right like that's
01:27:59 If you have any self-respect to run her husband down as she's doing that, that's incredible. 1.00
01:28:06 But, you know, look, that's that's her private business.
01:28:09 But the the journalism aspect of it, for People Magazine to be celebrating a comeback as as if she were the victim of something is it's it's pretty amazing.
01:28:23 Where is the question?
01:28:24 Where's the question?
01:28:26 Did you do this?
01:28:27 Yeah.
01:28:27 Did you sleep with a source? Are you sorry? I mean, we're not really asking a lot of people. I know people go there for a puff job, but like, is that is basic journalism just two questions too much to ask?
01:28:41 No, because it's all about being seen, right? And self-affirmation and self-actualization. That's a storyline that you can have about almost any celebrity, and people will buy it. It doesn't have to make a lot of sense.
01:29:00 And it's disappointing, you know, it speaks to the low level of, you know, attention that's paid in our business to pretty serious ethical issues.
01:29:15 People make mistakes. Nobody cares. People, you know, will fail to call somebody for comment or, you know, will smear somebody, get something terribly wrong, not feel sorry about it, ruin somebody's life, not feel sorry, sleep with a source, upend their, you know, all kinds of lives.
01:29:40 they don't care it's all about them you know as long as they can't they come out all right in the
01:29:47 end i guess it doesn't matter well that's what like that's what's so galling because there there
01:29:52 was a way for this woman to come back in in like a credible way and that way was probably more than 0.99
01:29:59 six months off but in any event to come back and say i fucked up definitely caused a lot of pain 0.91
01:30:07 in my marriage and I'm very sorry for that. And that's a private matter. And everybody would say 0.93
01:30:11 we get that. Um, as for my journalistic failure, which I also committed, I've paid the price.
01:30:19 I was fired and I was basically forced out. She wasn't fired, but I was forced out
01:30:23 of my job at the athletic, a job I loved and I deserved it. And now I hope to rebuild the trust
01:30:29 of my audience. Um, you know, having come clean and having paid the price for a really
01:30:36 fucking stupid thing i did like i do think people are very forgiving and they understand human 0.84
01:30:42 frailty and failure but this this is the opposite of the way right we've had lots of media scandals 1.00
01:30:51 in the past where people do things that are questionable the you know we've had um
01:30:57 people who've lifted passages from other people's work sometimes inadvertently sometimes they did
01:31:04 on purpose and you know got busted and had to spend some time out in the wilderness and then
01:31:10 they come back chastened um talk about their mistakes you have to be open about it uh and
01:31:18 everybody wins in that situation uh because it's a learning experience for people uh but it's not
01:31:24 when nobody has to learn anything when you can just pick up where you left off
01:31:28 as if nothing happened um it's just such a strange universe that we live in it's uh it's like um
01:31:37 austin power is talking about how you know as long as we still live in a consequence
01:31:42 free environment i'm happy you know like that's what we're in we're in the consequence
01:31:47 environment it also is giving vibes of vanessa that's not mine no
01:31:55 We're pretty sure it's yours, Diana.
01:31:59 We know it's yours.
01:32:00 As long-time reporters, we've never behaved like this with a source.
01:32:05 It's not something that's done, not to get a story.
01:32:09 Maybe if you're a Chinese spy, you do it without meaning it,
01:32:12 or if you're actually having an affair with the person you are holding hands with,
01:32:16 then it makes sense.
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01:35:02 sirius xm app matt taibbi's back with me matt those grifters megan and harry um are over
01:35:15 in, where are they? They're in Europe. And she canceled her speech, but he went ahead and did it
01:35:27 at the European Parliament. And the reason she canceled is because her father was just arrested
01:35:33 for reams of child pornography, allegedly in his belongings in the Philippines, in Mexico,
01:35:40 and in the good old United States of America,
01:35:44 which according to our FBI includes pictures
01:35:46 of him with underage children.
01:35:50 It wasn't just consuming child pornography,
01:35:53 not that that's any better,
01:35:55 but it appears he was in the pictures
01:35:57 and obviously molesting children,
01:36:00 although he denies it and says this is all a smear job.
01:36:03 So he's been arrested now.
01:36:04 He's 82 years old.
01:36:06 And for once she did the right thing
01:36:08 and stopped herself from needing to be on camera
01:36:11 and in front of the microphones, at least.
01:36:12 She did make sure she was on camera 0.83
01:36:14 because they were set to deliver a speech
01:36:17 about child safety.
01:36:20 And while her father's sins are not her sins,
01:36:23 she came out when this broke two and a half weeks ago
01:36:26 that her father had allegedly stashes of this stuff,
01:36:29 according to her half-brother,
01:36:30 who was the one who outed him
01:36:32 after having found the first stash in the Philippines.
01:36:34 She ran to the presses to say,
01:36:37 I've known all along. I knew for eight years. I was told eight years ago. The only reason I
01:36:43 didn't say anything is because I was allegedly told by a metropolitan police officer in London
01:36:48 to stay mum while they investigated. Well, it's been eight years. We haven't been able to find
01:36:52 said metropolitan police officer who told her this. And even if one had eight years ago,
01:36:58 it's long past the time when an investigation would have wrapped up. And she knows that.
01:37:03 So she sat by. She was obviously more interested in protecting her brand than in protecting children.
01:37:09 And so was Harry, because he said nothing either.
01:37:12 And yet he took to the European Parliament and had the nerve to start speaking about the dangers of social media for children.
01:37:21 Here's just a sample in Sop 43.
01:37:23 I think the biggest point that I could probably pass on from all the parents that we've met is really firstly to the companies.
01:37:33 don't put, don't put anything in front of our children that you wouldn't put in front of your
01:37:39 own children. And I, I use that because the majority of these, of these companies, um,
01:37:47 they don't let their children on social media because they know the dangers.
01:37:53 So why would you create something that, you know, is going to harm someone else's child?
01:37:57 i mean he he went on he went on to say the children deserve to feel safe no matter where
01:38:08 they are look at this watch all children should be able to go online and discover something
01:38:13 wonderful a friend an interest that becomes a passion a place where they feel understood
01:38:20 they deserve to feel safe wherever they are in a classroom on a playground at any time no matter 1.00
01:38:29 where they are this was colossally stupid and tone deaf and again she did make sure she was 1.00
01:38:37 caught on camera giving just the right angles of her face looking like the concerned person but 1.00
01:38:42 you know she she deigned not to do the speech just given the circumstances matt these two grifters 0.77
01:38:48 cannot be stopped they are tone deaf they care only about their branding and their image and 0.99
01:38:54 it is outrageous that they were extended this invitation and it was allowed to stand not
01:39:01 withstanding what has just come out about them your thoughts so one of the most uh shocking
01:39:07 things that we found in the twitter files was an early draft of a report from the aspen institute
01:39:15 that had put together a committee on what it called information disorder.
01:39:23 It took people from all over the world, celebrities, people in the media,
01:39:32 speech activists, anti-disinformation activists.
01:39:35 But the central figure in that committee was Prince Harry.
01:39:39 And he was essentially going to be the front man for a report that was going to say that social media was something that was too important and too dangerous to be left in the hands of the general public, that it needed some kind of, you know, a watchdog figure in the government.
01:40:04 and the story is amazing because it shows why you can't do that because you know if you if you have
01:40:14 a watchdog who's the watchdog um there's always going to be a problem with somebody who's in
01:40:20 charge of overseeing your content uh the only remedy is to is to let everybody have their say
01:40:27 And, you know, it's very scary. And to see him posing as this kind of holier than thou, you know, protector of speech is is deeply offensive.
01:40:42 And especially as an American, the fact that he came over here, you know, a British royal with affecting to tell us how to how to do our business online.
01:40:53 And that's that's really obnoxious. Right. He's he was criticizing the First Amendment.
01:40:58 Yeah. These two want to style themselves as like the protectors of children and a free speech.
01:41:03 Meanwhile, they sue every media company. They did not protect children.
01:41:07 They, unlike the rest of us, knew, according to them, about Thomas Markle long before we did and did nothing, nothing by their own admission.
01:41:15 I reject fully their continuing attempt to style themselves as protectors of child safety.
01:41:23 It's a no.
01:41:24 Matt Taibbi, great to see you.
01:41:26 Thanks for coming on.
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