The Megyn Kelly Show - Society Marginalizing Biological Women, Shakira Defending Men, and Lizzo's Entitlement, with Maureen Callahan ｜ Ep. 757

00:00:00.600 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:12.420 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We have a special episode

00:00:16.560 for you this morning, and there's a lot to get to. J.K. Rowling continues to speak the truth about

00:00:21.260 transgender, quote, women, after Scotland's hate crime law went into effect that criminalizes

00:00:28.020 threatening, abusive, or insulting behavior. Plus, Shakira speaks out on behalf of her sons over

00:00:35.620 the hugely popular Barbie movie, and Meghan Markle remains in the spotlight. I wonder how that

00:00:41.820 happened. We'll bring you the very latest. Here to discuss it all and more, Daily Mail columnist and

00:00:46.980 one of our very favorites on all things culture, Maureen Callahan. With me, right here in the studio.

00:00:52.580 Hi. Hi. Great to see you. Great to see you. So I love that J.K. Rowling saw this so-called hate law

00:01:02.180 and said, she was out of Scotland at the time, but said, bring it on, and actually said,

00:01:07.980 I'm saying all the things, like made a point of tweeting all the things and said, I'm coming back,

00:01:11.920 arrest me, to the point where the police had to be like, we're not going to arrest you.

00:01:16.020 She called their bluff. Right. We hope it's a bluff. Right. It might not be a bluff if you're not a 0.99

00:01:20.560 billionaire with her Twitter following. But what do you make of this nonsense?

00:01:24.700 It's so interesting. I think J.K. Rowling actually really was hoping to be arrested.

00:01:29.880 I really do. I think this is one of the most incredible second acts we've ever seen

00:01:35.460 with someone who is already such a cultural powerhouse. I mean, this will be in the top of

00:01:44.120 her obituary someday, what she did in terms of advocating for biological women. And what she is

00:01:52.020 pointing out is the inherent absurdity of this hate crime law, which went into effect on April Fool's

00:01:59.900 Day, which provides protections for every single group but women. Right. But women. So, you know, 0.99

00:02:08.560 the two examples that she was sure to bring to the fore, which were one was a convicted rapist had 0.96

00:02:16.980 raped two women. And while awaiting sentencing had decided he was going to change gender, even his

00:02:24.660 ex-wife said, never expressed an iota of interest in becoming a woman, by the way, raped me while we 0.98

00:02:31.840 were married. And the second was a convicted pedophile who had been what he had assaulted a 0.98

00:02:39.060 10 year old girl in a bathroom and and was also saying, hey, now I'm a woman and I'd like to be 0.62

00:02:45.080 housed in a female jail. You know, wonder why. So the notion that she should be pilloried for 1.00

00:02:53.680 standing up for women when those voices are few and far between is absurd. Yeah. You know, it's so 0.99

00:03:01.100 crazy. This just I was just reminded years ago. I don't even think I had a show in the prime time

00:03:07.500 of Fox. I went on O'Reilly and we were talking about this trans prisoner. It was a man who was

00:03:14.060 demanding. I think the state of California pay for his sex reassignment surgery, so-called. And I mean,

00:03:19.640 this is the as as somebody once said, ugly as a man, outrageous as a woman. And this is like the 0.98

00:03:27.240 most unattractive person you've ever laid eyes on. And I commented on that on Fox News and media

00:03:33.200 matters must have devoted. I don't know how many pages and updates to what a disgusting person I 0.86

00:03:38.020 was because I was pointing out how ugly this man was. And he was in prison for life. He had committed 0.87

00:03:42.880 murder. It was like, could you please keep your eye on the ball? And I'm having that same feeling

00:03:48.000 right now. We're talking about convicted pedophiles, convicted rapists being put into a woman's prison.

00:03:53.960 And I don't care if they identified as a woman for the past 20 years. You're not. You've been 0.99

00:03:58.840 living your life as male. And the you know, but the late conversion makes it even more in your face

00:04:04.080 to the point where if we can't speak out about it, it's not just offensive to us. It's endangering.

00:04:10.420 You know, so this may sound tangential, but I do think it's relevant. And I was thinking about this

00:04:15.200 knowing we were going to be discussing this. One of my favorite books and one that I think

00:04:19.820 every woman should read is the gift of fear by Gavin DeBecker. I love that book.

00:04:24.700 It's incredible. And in that book, he talks about

00:04:28.020 as a woman moving through the world, you should know that anytime a man makes you feel uncomfortable,

00:04:35.580 whether it's I'll help you with your bags or I'll give you a lift. I don't know you. I don't want to

00:04:41.560 hurt your feelings. That's how we've been conditioned as women, that there is no decent man on the planet 0.98

00:04:47.160 who would ever want a woman to feel uncomfortable. So that should be your warning sign. Number one. 1.00

00:04:52.300 So my question would be for any man who late in life is transitioning,

00:04:58.120 knowing that you're going into female centric spaces and you are making those women uncomfortable. 0.98

00:05:06.300 Why is it on the women to make sure you are comfortable? Yeah. You know, we're talking about 1.00

00:05:12.760 the NCAA lawsuit, which was just filed. Riley Gaines and others saying, why did you make us

00:05:19.340 compete against men? Right. And Leah Thomas, who is intact in the locker room, you know, 1.00

00:05:28.720 according to several women, they're proudly displaying her genitalia, knowing it was making 1.00

00:05:35.920 the other females uncomfortable. Some of whom went and changed in the janitor's closet for privacy. 0.98

00:05:41.560 In what world is this fair to women, to girls and women? Yeah. This is what we saw recently at

00:05:49.940 Planet Fitness. Libs of TikTok exposed this, where this man was in there, a 12 year old girl was in

00:05:55.660 the locker room and he was posing as a woman as he shaved his beard. He's shaving his, he looks like

00:06:02.260 a man. There's not even an attempt to look female. And he's shaving his whiskers off of his face while

00:06:07.500 this young prepubescent girl is sitting a stone's throw away. And a woman, a grown woman was also 1.00

00:06:14.420 there, took a picture of him. They yanked her, her membership, right? Her membership got yanked.

00:06:19.880 You know, the women get in trouble for complaining as they're about to get arrested in Scotland for 1.00

00:06:24.820 complaining. And these fake women get protection. That's why it's so outrageous that women aren't 1.00

00:06:30.880 protected in the Scotland bill. It's not that we necessarily need more protection or whatever.

00:06:34.500 I don't know. Fine. Cause they're like, well, we'll do another bill. It's not, it's not about

00:06:38.140 that. It's that by elevating the trans rights and not doing anything for the women, you've truly 0.94

00:06:43.480 elevated them over us. And we already need laws that make clear they're not over us. That if anybody

00:06:49.480 gets a right to reject or say no, it's us because these are not women, they're men. But it's not just

00:06:56.940 even the protections. It's the sort of gaslighting, at least in America, that is sociologically now

00:07:03.960 accepted, right? It's another way of silencing women. There was that famous story last year, 1.00

00:07:09.460 and I'm sure it's still ongoing of the sorority, which had a trans member who was demonstrably male

00:07:16.340 and really sort of, it felt like a woman in drag. There's, you know, this kind of Dylan Mulvaney-ish

00:07:21.340 mocking a bit of femininity. And they all said, we're uncomfortable. But if we say we're uncomfortable,

00:07:29.320 we're the bigots. We're the ones who get tarred and feathered and canceled. And the notion that

00:07:36.620 women and girls have been put so far back so quickly, I mean, I would never have foreseen this

00:07:45.160 10 years ago. It's horrifying. Well, that's like, is it Wisconsin's governor? I think it's Wisconsin

00:07:50.740 governor. I have it here, Tony Evers. He just refused to sign the law that would protect athletes,

00:07:58.360 female athletes. Yeah. Tony Evers rejected a proposal Tuesday to ban, via the Hill and the

00:08:02.720 Daily Mail, to ban transgender student athletes from competing on sports teams consistent with

00:08:07.920 their gender identity, which basically is the green light to boys to cheat. He says it's hateful

00:08:14.580 and discriminatory and says as follows. I believe this bill fails to comport with our Wisconsin values.

00:08:21.020 We expect our kids to treat each other with kindness, respect, empathy, and compassion.

00:08:28.140 But he does not mean that we need to treat the girls that way. He means only trans students or

00:08:34.820 so-called trans students. He doesn't give a damn about empathy or respect for the girls who don't want 0.97

00:08:40.680 to change next to a penis. It's, um, it's astonishing that I can't imagine that these schools do not have 0.99

00:08:50.100 legal teams that say you are one lawsuit away from complete ruin if a girl is assaulted here. 1.00

00:08:58.360 Right. You know, I mean, so I recently wrote, um, in yesterday's column or Monday's column about this JK

00:09:04.760 rallying latest, uh, kerfluffle, whatever you want to call it in Nassau County on Long Island,

00:09:11.580 there's an executive called Bruce Blakeman, I believe who signed into order. It was an executive

00:09:17.920 order, not a law protecting biological girls sports and saying, this is unfair to girls to have to compete 1.00

00:09:26.700 against boys. They are, they are stronger. They are, they have more muscle mass. They have more

00:09:33.020 testosterone. They have all of these advantages. And that was assailed by none other than Letitia 0.95

00:09:39.680 James, New York's first female attorney general. What a turncoat. On the one hand, she's all about 1.00

00:09:48.920 let's take Trump down. You know, he's a misogynist. He's all of these things. And yet on the other hand, 0.98

00:09:55.820 she's throwing young girls under the bus. You're so right. She was behind the Harvey Weinstein

00:10:01.240 prosecutions. Yeah, you're exactly right. When it comes, when the chips are down, you're talking

00:10:05.600 about minor females, her woke bona fides matter more than her actual caring for women, for, for 1.00

00:10:13.960 girls. There is a case in the news right now. Okay. This is, I want to make sure I get it right.

00:10:19.100 Athlete CeCe Teflor, born Craig, uh, and CeCe Teflor, Teflor, displaced college women in the finals of a 1.00

00:10:30.900 women's invitational meet in Boston last month. We're talking about track and field, uh, Teflor,

00:10:36.000 the first openly trans identifying male, meaning a man who identifies as a female to win a women's 0.79

00:10:44.840 NCAA national title in the 400 meter hurdles, ran unattached with it, which I think means not

00:10:53.580 backed by a school. Uh, they, he bumped a female athlete out of the finals and then went on from

00:10:59.860 there. He has been running track since grade school. He is, well, let me, I'm not even going

00:11:07.220 to give you a description. Let me just show you the picture. You see, if you can guess which one

00:11:11.520 is formerly Craig now CC, which one of these might be a man. Hmm. Is it hard to tell? Could it be the

00:11:23.560 one who's six foot two? Yeah, that's Craig. And Craig is, uh, was on the university's male track and

00:11:34.940 field team at university of New Hampshire for three years. This is not somebody who like is

00:11:41.380 prepubescent where the bodies actually are closer to the same, um, ran for university of New Hampshire,

00:11:48.280 uh, as a man ranked 200th and 390th respectively among division two men in the 400 hurdles.

00:11:57.820 And after transitioning, as I pointed out, qualified for the NCAA women's division to outdoor track and 0.88

00:12:04.000 field championships during his senior year, the senior year, like right after finishing it up,

00:12:09.500 uh, let's run.com reports that Telfer ran slightly faster in the 400 hurdles competing as a man than

00:12:16.980 as a woman. So he was a teensy, like a second better when he was running male 57.34 seconds versus 0.70

00:12:24.060 57.53 seconds. So I mean, barely. So the point is he lost nothing right in his transition. Uh, and

00:12:32.260 that's even though the men's hurdles are six inches taller than the women's, but when he ran as a man,

00:12:38.340 he did not even score at the conference meet. And then, um, when he ran as a woman, he became

00:12:46.340 a record setter, NCAA winner and so on. Now, by the way, according to the daily mail, CC formerly Craig

00:12:53.660 is set to release a memoir later this year, celebrating how quote, she became the first openly

00:13:01.600 trans quote woman to win an NCAA title. This is cheating. It's, you know, all you have to do Megan 1.00

00:13:08.580 is look, I was looking at that picture that you just put up the body language, the demeanor,

00:13:14.160 the expressions of the two female athletes on either side. They're already defeated. They know

00:13:19.960 they have no shot to see that again. They have no shot. What are they working for and sacrificing for

00:13:26.820 and just putting up, look at this, look at this. Why, why are they being put through this pantomime

00:13:35.040 through this? It just, it's, it, the race is over, is over before it's begun. We know who's going to

00:13:41.800 win and the, and the demeanor of CC, which is just sort of like, well, it's all, it's all powerful.

00:13:47.440 It's all, I'm here. Here's a video. He's jumping up and down. He's psyched. He's ready to go.

00:13:54.080 And these, the hair flip is key. They look like little people next to him. Oh yeah. They look

00:14:00.220 like children. Yeah. Next to this grown man who they have to run against. Otherwise like Leah Thomas

00:14:06.640 and what he put people like Riley gains through their lives will be ruined. They'll be called

00:14:11.480 bigots. They won't get job offers, et cetera. Exactly. Exactly. And you wonder about the integrity

00:14:17.780 athletically and otherwise of anyone who could compete knowing that the chips are so stacked in their

00:14:23.780 favor and against these girls. Again, I don't understand it. You know, you were talking about

00:14:30.400 this a few days ago. You never see this the other way around. We don't see it the other way around,

00:14:36.920 which should tell us a lot. And I just wonder, you know, that clip that you just played of Hillary, 0.95

00:14:43.120 who's out there promoting suffs, right? Which sounds like just the worst Broadway musical ever. 0.58

00:14:48.420 Suffragists. Oh my God. Where is she on this? Yeah. Where are our leading female voices on this 1.00

00:14:58.400 crisis? Where's our JK Rowling? Where's our JK Rowling? Great question. There's Martina Navarrola who 1.00

00:15:05.820 stuck a toe in these waters and then got shamed, then immediately dialed it back. She's a leftist. 1.00

00:15:11.900 So it would be nice if she would maintain the voice, right? But she eventually came back around,

00:15:16.340 right? After many other women did it. She finally found the stones to actually do something about it. 1.00

00:15:20.840 Okay, fine. We'll take her support. Um, who, where are billionaires? Where's fucking Oprah? 1.00

00:15:26.900 Where is Oprah? Well, she's doing her ozempic apology tour right now. So maybe when she's done 1.00

00:15:32.900 with that, where's Michelle Obama? Oh, where's Michelle? Yeah. Where, where are all of our female 1.00

00:15:38.720 billionaires like JK Rowling, right? She's not one of ours from the UK, right? Where are the American 0.93

00:15:43.600 female billionaires to come out and say something about this? No one. We don't have that person. 1.00

00:15:49.660 We don't. It's, it's, it's, it's, this is where we are culturally. We are, we live in Wokistan.

00:15:56.500 And I don't know at what point the, the needle will be forced backwards, but you know, even to see Joe

00:16:05.600 Biden back on his heels a bit, you know, over this Easter weekend. It was interesting.

00:16:11.380 Right. Trans day of visibility, which apparently 15 years ago was designated as March 31st. But this

00:16:16.800 year it happened to fall on Easter. He sent out a tweet celebrate. I see you. I value you to all

00:16:22.660 the trans people on Easter Sunday. I understand it wasn't scheduled by him, but he did it. He 0.98

00:16:28.420 celebrated it on this holy holiday for Christians without apology and really just kind of said,

00:16:34.780 it wasn't, it wasn't my idea, but I did it. Right. But he, he felt the need to, to backtrack.

00:16:40.620 Yeah. You know, I mean, we're seeing all the sort of, uh, the winds of change as the election gets

00:16:46.300 closer and closer. And it struck me that instead of doubling down, he backed off a little bit.

00:16:53.440 Interesting. Because he put out the statement saying, I didn't create it. It wasn't my,

00:16:56.280 wasn't me. It wasn't me. It was, you know, my staff that's really running the show. We all know

00:17:00.260 that, you know, we have a side of it. Hold on. Let's watch. Speaker Johnson said you betrayed

00:17:06.020 the 10 of Easter by proclaiming Sunday, Easter Sunday as transgender day. He called it outrageous 0.97

00:17:12.140 and abhorrent. What do you say to Speaker Johnson? He's thoroughly uninformed. Uninformed. How?

00:17:17.680 I didn't do that. I mean, I don't know what to say. He's, you think he's getting the

00:17:26.100 message? No, I just think he's confused at any given moment. And you know,

00:17:32.220 we can't read too much into it. I don't, I mean, I, I, I was actually more struck by

00:17:38.280 him standing shoulder to shoulder with Hunter on the white house lawn on Easter. Yeah. And Hunter's

00:17:44.460 just sort of complete pride and arrogance and being there instead of, you know, the political

00:17:51.400 liability that he is. The nerve, the nerve to invite him and have him around people's, you know,

00:17:57.040 children. Yeah. Like I wouldn't bring my 15 year old kid if I were you. I wouldn't bring my 15

00:18:02.540 year old kid around either one of them. Hair sniffing Joe Hunter with his own peccadilloes. No,

00:18:09.880 absolutely not. No, he was interviewed by Al Roker and he said like, what's your favorite memory of

00:18:13.600 these things? And Joe Biden was like, my favorite memory was this little girl. I'm like, Oh God.

00:18:18.480 Oh my God. And he went from there. Uh, yeah. So that was trans day of visibility. Uh, while we're 0.81

00:18:26.400 on the subject of women and, and successful ones, Shakira, I like Shakira. I actually, I almost never

00:18:34.000 go to concerts, but I have been to a Shakira concert. Um, I'm not over the fact that I was

00:18:40.900 forced to see Shakira's vag at the Superbowl performance a couple of years ago with my then

00:18:45.920 six year old in the room, but I'll forgive her. I'll forgive her, I guess, because I like what

00:18:53.040 she's saying here where she spoke out about the movie Barbie and she saw the movie Barbie and had

00:18:58.220 some thoughts, which she shared. Um, here's a, here's a clip from the movie. So you can see where

00:19:04.300 she's coming from. Okay. So she gives an interview to a lure. The title of the piece is Shakira's she

00:19:24.920 wolf feminism pointing out. She's the mother of two boys. She separated from their father. Um, 0.99

00:19:31.320 they broke up amid allegations that he was cheating on her. And in the piece, she's asked

00:19:34.980 about this movie. Now I can't help, but ask a question that's been on my mind since we began

00:19:39.600 this conversation. Did you watch the movie Barbie? Like, why would you ask that? Okay. But anyway,

00:19:44.220 I watched it. Yeah. Long pause. And my sons absolutely hated it. They felt it was emasculating

00:19:51.660 and I agree to a certain extent. I'm raising two boys. I want them to feel powerful too.

00:19:56.400 While respecting women. I like pop culture when it attempts to empower women without robbing men of

00:20:01.600 their possibility to be men, to also protect and provide. I believe in giving women all the tools

00:20:06.700 and the trust that we can do it all without losing our essence, without losing our femininity.

00:20:11.380 I think that men have a purpose in society and women have another purpose as well. We compliment

00:20:15.860 each other and that compliment should not be lost. Question. Just because a woman can do it all 1.00

00:20:21.140 doesn't mean she should. Why not share the load? And this is her. Okay. Why not share the load with

00:20:27.500 people who deserve to carry it, who have a duty to carry it as well? Uh, blah, blah, blah. Okay.

00:20:31.800 It goes on from there. So she's been getting some blowback for this. I think, you know, most

00:20:37.880 conservatives like what she's saying, but I, it's no coincidence, probably Maureen, that she's like a 0.85

00:20:43.260 Latin woman, you know, I think like they're fine with more of traditional roles in this country. 1.00

00:20:48.800 We shame young women who feel any attraction to that as somehow, somehow wrong, other or backward.

00:20:55.260 Yeah. I mean, I, first of all, I love an original take on something that the hive mind has already

00:21:03.100 come to an agreement upon. And I love someone who's sort of willing to go against that sort of

00:21:09.380 prevailing opinion. Um, my biggest problem with Barbie is I thought it was mediocre and dull.

00:21:16.440 And if I had to hear one more time, the valorization of that soliloquy in there, that America Ferrara 1.00

00:21:22.980 soliloquy about, Oh, if you're, if you're a woman, if you're, you're aggressive, you're a bitch. But if a 1.00

00:21:27.900 man does it, he's strong. It's like, that is the horriest thing that has been going around since the

00:21:33.080 early seventies. And it was treated as though Greta Gerwig had like gone to the Mount and God

00:21:39.340 had given her this on a tablet and she came back down. And then we all had to sit through the Oscars

00:21:45.860 in which Barbie, which won, I think nothing, maybe one award maybe, but was at every turn at every

00:21:54.400 turn. It was Barbie, this Barbie, that Barbie, this Barbie, that, and it wasn't the best movie

00:21:58.780 of the year by a long shot. You know, I think Barbie was sort of attempting to sort of be this

00:22:04.660 overcorrection for girls and women of feeling, you know, yes, you can do it all. Or, you know,

00:22:10.740 if women ran the world, what, what sort of utopia that might be like, but wonder woman also came 1.00

00:22:16.100 out several years ago. And that was sort of that message as well. And I just think that

00:22:21.140 there is something to what Shakira is saying, the sort of the, the, the way that the men were sort 1.00

00:22:28.180 of portrayed as bumbling idiots. Yeah. You know, um, you can fight back against this. You really 1.00

00:22:35.340 can. I never saw Barbie, but my daughter did. And before she went, we talked about, you know,

00:22:40.240 what I'd heard about the movie and, you know, sort of what to look out for. And she came back and she

00:22:45.520 was like, eh, she was like, it seemed very anti boy. Interesting. Yeah. That, that was her takeaway.

00:22:52.180 That is fascinating. And she's got two brothers and a father who she loves. It's like you,

00:22:57.180 you, you can sort of turn it. We don't have to go hardcore. I don't, I'm not trying to turn my kids

00:23:00.920 into activists at all, but I do want them to be aware of these messages as they're coming across

00:23:07.060 the transom. And I also think that moms of both girls and boys are going to be the solution in 0.92

00:23:12.700 part to this problem. Right. Cause like, I don't want my daughter to get sexually harassed. I don't 1.00

00:23:17.100 want her to have her job staked on her sleeping with a boss. Um, but I also don't want my sons to go

00:23:23.020 through college having to sign consent agreements with women before they have their sexual experiences 0.67

00:23:28.140 or whatever it is they choose to have in college. Right. Right. Absolutely. So, you know, the problem

00:23:34.400 with Barbie per Shakira is when it feels less like an entertainment and more like a polemic. Right.

00:23:42.760 Yeah. And I think there is something to that. And I think we're going to see a little bit more of it

00:23:49.100 because apparently there's going to be a Barbie too. Oh God. I mean, it made over a billion dollars.

00:23:53.860 So here we are. We're going to have Barbie too. And I'd love to see what they're going to do to Ken 0.78

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00:25:04.500 James Carvel comes out and, you know, he's one of those Democrats who's, he hasn't gone woke.

00:25:11.720 He's not like annoyingly sanctimonious and lecturing us all the time. Um, and he is pretty

00:25:17.820 good at diagnosing what problems the Democrats are facing. And he posted the following on his

00:25:23.800 YouTube show the other day. Watch this. You know, I've been very vocal about this. Uh, it's,

00:25:29.080 it's horrifying. Our numbers among younger voters, uh, uh, particularly, uh, uh, black, 0.66

00:25:38.380 younger blacks, younger Latinos or whatever, but whatever younger, I don't like that younger 1.00

00:25:44.700 people are coming, particularly males. We're not shedding them that they're leaving in the droves.

00:25:52.920 Okay. So he doesn't spit it out as articulately as perhaps we'd, we'd like, but he's not wrong,

00:25:59.980 right? The younger voters, the men in particular are leaving white, black, Hispanic. And I, it's not 0.88

00:26:08.340 directly related to Barbie, but it's kind of all part of the same problem. What do you think it is

00:26:15.140 particularly with the Democrats and their messaging right now? I think they're sanctimonious

00:26:19.000 lecturing, scolding men are bad. I mean, that's really like what man wants to watch Ken and hear

00:26:24.960 that messaging, you know, like who gets a kick out of that. And I think it's also like we were looking

00:26:29.960 at the podcast numbers the other day morning and our show is doing great. Thank God. Thank God. And

00:26:34.600 thanks to all of you. But you look at like Joe Rogan, right? Monster, monster. His downloads are like

00:26:40.960 in the, I don't know, several, several double digit millions and everybody else is way below.

00:26:46.340 But most of the top podcasters are men who are speaking to these guys who feel disaffected,

00:26:56.220 rejected, blamed for everything. You know, they're the scourge of everything. Like Jordan Peterson is

00:27:02.460 very popular, I think for the same reason. And I do think it is mostly leftist women who are pushing 1.00

00:27:10.000 this message. You know, conservative women, they're not out there bashing men at every turn. It's like 1.00

00:27:13.740 these Upper West Side liberals who are like, you know, down with the patriarchy. It's not to say

00:27:18.660 you and I've talked many times. It's not to say that women don't have real problems, right? That 1.00

00:27:21.940 we've cleaned up all work environments and that we have all the same advantages, perfectly equal.

00:27:25.920 We don't. There's definitely some more work to be done, but we we've overcorrected in some areas

00:27:30.980 to now where the message is just assume men are the problem. Just assume your boy's not getting into

00:27:36.380 college because he's a boy. Yeah. And nevermind if he's a white boy. Yeah. Like, 0.64

00:27:39.500 and I think they're feeling it. They're feeling it across all age groups. You know, I remember

00:27:45.700 having this conversation with you. I don't remember if it was on air or not, but I was talking about

00:27:51.260 one of my best friends who she and her family left Brooklyn several years ago for New Jersey. And she

00:27:58.740 said, I am not going to have my child, my son educated in a system that tells him because he is a

00:28:06.020 young, white, blonde, blue eyed, straight male that he is the problem. And I thought, wow, like to

00:28:13.420 identify that so early and to know that that is what's coming down the pike for him. And I think 0.67

00:28:19.220 you're right. I think there is. And it's, it's, it's akin to what we were talking about earlier.

00:28:26.020 Whereas women, we sometimes feel, oh, when it comes to something like the trans issue, if we speak up

00:28:31.540 about it, we're bigots, we're transphobes. I've been called every name in the book. I'm sure you

00:28:35.800 have too. And I feel like for men, it's must be this silent majority of like, but we're not the

00:28:42.700 problem. Why don't we get to be men? Why are, why even there was just an amazing story I was reading

00:28:51.180 about the, um, the rise in, in blue collar work and the push for more vocational schools

00:28:59.740 instead of this constant push down the line for a higher education, for four-year college or

00:29:06.520 university. And those jobs will never be going away. You know, as we, as we've seen in America,

00:29:12.980 all too recently, our infrastructure is crumbling. And yet these are not a, this is not a cohort that 0.98

00:29:23.480 the Democrats want to talk to anymore. They're not talking to them. They're not talking at them.

00:29:28.440 They're just bypassing them. And I think that's exactly who James Carville is talking about.

00:29:33.940 And also when it comes to shedding blacks, Latinos, like let's talk about the anti-cop movement. 1.00

00:29:42.280 Let's talk about the soft on crime movement. Who is that hurting the most? That's hurting

00:29:48.740 young, poor, dispossessed blacks and Latinos the most. Look at the view the other day.

00:29:58.080 Let's pull this soundbite over guys. Whoopi Goldberg was angry when, uh, Alyssa Farah, 0.98

00:30:05.300 who's the sort of, sort of conservative conservative. Yeah. Um, Alyssa pointed out that Trump went to the

00:30:11.780 funeral, um, of officer Diller on Long Island and Joe Biden went to a podcast. Yes. And look at

00:30:19.520 Whoopi Goldberg's reaction to Trump doing that while, while Biden was out, you know, getting more

00:30:25.760 campaign donations and promoting himself on that podcast. Look at this.

00:30:30.180 This past week, he had a brief, good political moment for a Republican. He attended a slain NYPD

00:30:36.020 officer's funeral to juxtapose, you know, what he was framing as Biden hobnobbing with celebrities.

00:30:41.480 Choose what you like there. But for Republicans, it was good imagery.

00:30:44.180 Really? One day later. Yes.

00:30:46.760 And I'm asking that because I was so offended because this man, because you know who showed

00:30:53.760 up and he was, whether he was asked or not, this is a man who didn't, didn't care what happened to

00:31:00.960 the officers on January 6th. Okay. She promotes Joe Biden and Kamala Harris every day on that show.

00:31:13.280 Kamala Harris called Jacob Blake, a hero. Kamala Harris was getting involved on the side of the

00:31:20.420 rebel rousers, the accused criminals during the BLM riots that Jacob Blake pulled a knife on cops.

00:31:28.200 It was admitted on her network, ABC, in an interview with Michael Strahan.

00:31:33.140 They can't tolerate a moment of a politician paying his respects to a fallen cop because Trump

00:31:41.640 wasn't supportive enough of the cops who were, yes, in danger on J6. How does that explain their

00:31:47.380 behavior on a daily basis toward Harris, toward Biden, toward AOC, toward all of the left,

00:31:54.500 including their own show, Sonny Hostin, who supported the BLM riots, endangering and hurting

00:32:01.120 thousands of cops, thousands of them. The hypocrisy is rank. 0.95

00:32:07.160 The hypocrisy is rank. Whataboutism is the refuge of cowards. I hate it when something comes up in it. 1.00

00:32:13.460 So what about this? What about that? Trump, there were, there were a couple of things about that

00:32:20.100 this weekend, again, and this took place over Easter weekend and it was incredibly tragic.

00:32:25.680 Trump went to that wake and was welcomed there, spoke to the widow, spoke to the family.

00:32:32.020 When he was asked what possible good could come out of this tragedy, he said the only good thing that

00:32:40.400 could come out of this is that there are stronger and tougher laws on the books to keep criminals like

00:32:45.740 this off the streets. This guy had a record. This was a traffic stop. This was the father of a one-year-old.

00:32:54.380 Yeah. Contrast that with Kathy Hochul showing up at that wake and she was not wanted and she was

00:33:03.620 filmed outside that funeral home. And there was somebody who attended that wake who had words with

00:33:09.960 her, who was very upset. And we later learned, basically, she was told you have blood on your

00:33:15.700 hands. This is not enough to get New York's governor, assembly, legislature. Nobody will move on this stuff.

00:33:23.840 Nobody will move on these soft on crime policies. I'm sure you see this every day. Every day in New

00:33:28.560 York, women are getting punched in the face, walking down the streets. This is now the cost of doing 1.00

00:33:35.440 business for being a woman in New York City. Yeah. It comes at random, unexpected times. You get

00:33:41.820 attacked from behind, from the front with massive blows. It's not that any punch would be enjoyable, but

00:33:47.760 massive blows to the face where women have welts as big as this. Even Bethany Frankel came out 1.00

00:33:53.660 and tweeted that she had been attacked. I mean, she's well known. I don't know. Then she deleted

00:33:58.360 I'm suspect of Bethany. I think if Bethany Frankel had been attacked, she would have been live streaming

00:34:03.440 from her nearest five-star urgent clinic. That's just me. Fair enough. Fair enough. But the point is,

00:34:10.100 it's happening in this city, which is just completely dangerous now. And in a way, you know,

00:34:14.000 I had the fifth column on last week and we were talking about this. We're talking about how terrifying

00:34:17.860 the subways are now. And Michael Moynihan, who's part of the fifth column, texted me later that day

00:34:23.620 or the next day, a video of him on the subway with lunatics on there, threatening the passengers,

00:34:29.220 behaving in a very disturbing manner. It's just, that's because of Whoopi's side of the aisle. I'm

00:34:34.980 sorry, but that the people that she supports on a day-to-day basis are the ones who put these no cash

00:34:41.600 bail, you know, policies in place and soft on crime prosecutors in place where these people

00:34:46.720 just go in. And before the cops can fill out the paperwork, they're already back out. So I really

00:34:52.020 don't want to hear her indignation about January 6th. I don't support what happened on January 6th.

00:34:57.980 And I've been, you know, critical of it from the beginning, but this is ridiculous because she 0.98

00:35:03.340 doesn't give two shits about the thousands, literally thousands of cops who've been hurt since 0.98

00:35:07.660 the beginning of BLM. It's just, it's infuriating. Anyway. Okay. So that's, that's them. Something 0.96

00:35:13.940 else. Yes. I know this is weird, but I told Abby before you came, make sure you get the article to

00:35:21.000 Maureen about the man with a penis and a vagina. She did. She got it to me. She's like, got it. 1.00

00:35:28.940 Get Maureen, the man with the penis and the vagina. Can I tell you my first reaction? Overachiever. 1.00

00:35:33.520 My book is called Settle for More. Well, there you go. Maybe, maybe took a lesson,

00:35:40.880 maybe book noted some stuff. Okay. So I did not bring this up exactly in the trans discussion

00:35:45.860 because to me, this is about a bigger, different thing. So this is in Canada where they've truly

00:35:50.800 gone crazy on these issues. In Canada, a quote, non-binary person who is 33 years old is from the

00:35:57.080 Daily Mail, uh, wants the taxpayers to fund his, it's a biological male, $70,000 surgery to get a 0.95

00:36:07.220 vagina. And he wants to keep his penis. Right, right, right. Wants to keep the P. Uh, he lives in 1.00

00:36:15.180 Ontario. He's 33 born male identifies as non-binary says he's literally a mix. That's not a thing. And, 0.57

00:36:23.400 um, got originally denied the taxpayer money because it's taxpayer healthcare out there denied.

00:36:31.580 And then, uh, uh, an appellate court overruled the denial and said, you should get it. Uh, and now

00:36:38.500 he's appealing it or the other side's appealing. One of them's appealing it. So it's not, it's not

00:36:41.980 yet settled. Uh, this is what his lawyer writes. It is very important for KS, which is how he's going

00:36:48.120 to have a vagina for her personal interpretation of her gender expression. Okay. No female has to 1.00

00:36:56.820 petition a court for her vagina. It comes along with everything else. It has to petition the court 1.00

00:37:03.780 for a vagina. It's very important for her personal interpretation of her gender expression, but she 1.00

00:37:09.720 also wishes to maintain her penis, her penis writes the doctor who's supporting KS. KS is trans feminine, 1.00

00:37:19.940 but not completely on the feminine end of the spectrum. And for this reason, it's important 0.99

00:37:25.600 for her to have a vagina while maintaining a penis. Okay. There's so many places that you could go 1.00

00:37:33.460 with this piece of news. Um, the place that I, that I went to it when I read this article, Maureen was

00:37:41.140 we are in some sort of bizarre other world now on what we're doing to one another. Like that this

00:37:49.720 is somehow acceptable because this person wants to get this surgery in the United States at a clinic

00:37:57.440 in Texas, which says it does about 10 of these a year. Wow. In Austin, Texas. So there are multiple

00:38:05.280 people walking around right now by choice, having created some artificial penis to match the vagina 1.00

00:38:13.740 or artificial vagina to match the penis. Both are there. Both are somewhat functional. 1.00

00:38:18.780 And I, I can't help, but think back to the warnings that seemed extreme at the time from people like

00:38:28.020 O'Reilly on Fox. Like we start going down this line, we're going to wind up saying yes to some very

00:38:34.860 extreme behaviors that nobody wants to normalize. And I have to say, this seems like one of them,

00:38:40.340 this as a moral, as an ethical, as a religious, I can't like matter should not be allowed. We should

00:38:49.300 not be a society that says, sure, have all the body parts you want. Uh, there's another trend to get rid

00:38:55.100 of your belly button and also a trend to get rid of all genitals. You have no genitals whatsoever. 1.00

00:39:01.180 So it's Ken, right? Exactly. He has nothing. Good point. He has nothing. Yeah. This, I don't mean to 0.99

00:39:07.780 be mean, but this is freaky. This is downright freaky. It's disturbing. This person could be

00:39:13.740 teaching your kid in school. This person could be moving in next door to you. And next thing you know,

00:39:18.800 at a cocktail party, he's telling you all about his penis and vagina. I miss the days when there 1.00

00:39:25.020 were societal norms against this most extreme behavior. Now we've crossed over to where it's

00:39:31.320 taxpayer funded. It's so, it's so crazy. I did not know that there was a place in Texas that was

00:39:38.780 performing about 10 of these a year. And my, my initial thing is sort of, you know, surgery is

00:39:46.100 surgery. It's serious business. And it really should be sort of your last option, no matter what

00:39:53.080 is going on. Um, it's the percentage of people. I would love to know the percentage of people because

00:40:00.260 what this automatically made me think of, I was doing a little reading on my way here and it was

00:40:05.860 making me think of, you know, and these are again, like, um, it's a very marginal number, but the number

00:40:11.100 of children say who are born intersex, right? Yeah. Born with both genitalia. And what they used to do 1.00

00:40:17.460 was the doctors would decide upon birth, which sex the baby should be. They would be raised that

00:40:23.140 way. And then later in life, they would have gender confusion and they would say, I feel more

00:40:27.180 this. And it would, they would learn what happened to them. And I think just for, for those, those

00:40:31.080 intersex people, I don't think they have both a penis and a vagina. I think generally they have 0.98

00:40:34.380 female sex organs and a penis. I don't know for sure. I haven't actually done a deep dive on this, 1.00

00:40:39.740 but that's my understanding of intersex. I don't know that you have both an active penis and a vagina. 1.00

00:40:44.180 I don't know that you do. I think that there also may be testes that 0.99

00:40:47.400 don't drop something like that. That's one thing. If you, if, if through some genetic issue in,

00:40:53.640 in utero, you are born like that. Those people deserve empathy and kindness. This is like a

00:41:00.440 surgical creation by a doctor. Who's got a Hippocratic oath to do no harm. And you know,

00:41:06.920 when you want to go male to female in the operation department, they usually take your penis, 1.00

00:41:12.980 just cut it off, forgive me guys, and try to transform it into something that looks like a 1.00

00:41:18.080 vag. Here, they've got to take all that tissue because this guy wants to have it all from the

00:41:23.780 colon, from the abdomen. And this is, we've seen, it's been reported a 16 year old boy die when they

00:41:31.640 tried to create a vagina out of a penis. Cause he didn't have enough penile material, thanks to all 1.00

00:41:40.700 the cross-sex hormones and the, and the puberty blockers. And when they take that material from 0.92

00:41:44.720 a colon, you can die. So this is a dangerous thing to have done to yourself too. And we're treating it

00:41:49.440 like it's a nose job. Right, right, right. We're treating it sort of like you're going to your

00:41:54.320 dermatologist and getting a little lip filler and what have you. It's a laser tweakments, you know?

00:41:59.520 And I think, I think a lot of this will, you know, we're seeing this in Europe and I, I love seeing

00:42:05.340 this in Europe because there's a, a branch of, of the American elite that love to look at Europe as

00:42:12.120 so superior to us in every way. And they have pulled way back on medicalizing children and

00:42:18.500 teenagers. They won't do it. They won't do it. And France is the latest country to begin really 0.81

00:42:22.680 pulling back and saying like, no, this is too damaging. It's causing harm. We should be coming at

00:42:28.740 this as a mental, emotional, psychological issue first. And in America, we're not there yet,

00:42:34.960 you know? And I was so struck. I don't know if you saw this by the New York times, that piece that

00:42:40.100 Pamela Paul wrote that it was like four pages long on detransitioning. And these young people who said

00:42:48.380 as a teenager or young, like adolescent pubescent went to my doctor, exhibited confusion,

00:42:56.140 the medical industrial complex, put me on a conveyor belt. This was the answer. This was the

00:43:02.660 only answer. It's a firm, a firm, a firm. And you're talking about children and teenagers with

00:43:09.220 incredibly plastic minds. Anybody who's been through adolescence knows it's one of the traumatic

00:43:14.360 things, most traumatic things you can ever go through. Yeah. Can you imagine making a decision

00:43:18.160 that's going to affect you medically for the rest of your life? No, no. And the parents who allow it.

00:43:23.820 Yeah. It's just like, I'm sorry, but this is, you know, I'm not like somebody who's very preachy

00:43:30.620 when it comes to religion. But to me, this feels like evil somehow, that there'd be a doctor who

00:43:37.000 would do this to a person who's obviously sick, as like a medical complex that says,

00:43:42.720 we'll support you in this obvious, severe mental illness. And then this person walking around with

00:43:49.440 this secret that we all are supposed to pretend is totally normal and fine. I just like, no,

00:43:57.560 I mean, we've got lines. And for me, they're important lines and we should uphold them.

00:44:01.920 Okay. Which weirdly leads me to Lizzo. So Lizzo it's, I, I, the transition works because Lizzo is

00:44:09.160 somebody who's been trying to say, it's healthy to be this fat, like body positivity. Right. And okay,

00:44:15.560 that's fine. It's like redefining. I don't believe that it's not healthy, but she's working it to the

00:44:21.060 tune of, I'm sure, you know, over a hundred million dollars probably at this point. And she's got,

00:44:24.820 um, all these advantages, right? She's got so many blessings. She gets asked, gets asked to perform at

00:44:31.400 Joe Biden's fundraiser last Friday night. She does it. And within 24 hours, she quits music. She sends

00:44:39.060 out her little post. I'm, I'm done. I'm sick of being criticized in the internet. All I try to do

00:44:44.700 is put positivity out there into the world. And what do I get? I get trolled. I quit. Well, that

00:44:50.320 lasted about two minutes. She's back. Okay. Uh, I didn't quit music. I just quit haters. Okay. No,

00:44:57.640 she quit, right? Yeah. She's got whatever she rethought it. But to me, Maureen, this shows something

00:45:03.180 you write about all the time, which is her disgusting sense of entitlement. This is a person 0.72

00:45:07.860 who has won Emmys. She's won Grammys. She has her own fashion line. She's now making movies. She had a

00:45:14.380 reality TV series. She is lauded as a, as an icon by every magazine and every entertainment, uh, show

00:45:22.740 and publication. Um, she's made probably, like I said, hundreds of millions or at least over a hundred

00:45:28.560 million. She's got double platinum, quadruple platinum, seven time platinum albums. She gets

00:45:36.160 celebrated at every turn. She gets asked to appear before three presidents. It's not enough

00:45:41.440 because some people dared to criticize her online. She's got to throw a fit like a little brat and say, 1.00

00:45:48.840 I quit. And she's going to be begged back into the business by all of her adoring fans because she 1.00

00:45:55.360 doesn't want to traffic in hate. I'm sorry. She went political. She's constantly lecturing us about

00:46:01.120 the body. So it's fine to talk about the body and whether what she's saying is true. And she,

00:46:07.000 like so many of these celebrities think that they're, you know, what doesn't stink and we're not allowed

00:46:12.920 to weigh in on their controversial behavior or just say, we don't like them. Right. Right.

00:46:18.560 You know what I thought when I saw that announcement, I quit. I thought what is really going on?

00:46:25.360 Behind the scenes. Do you remember several months ago, that lawsuit that was filed by all those

00:46:32.440 backup dancers and they were alleging that there was weird sexual stuff going on and hostile work

00:46:37.140 and, and, you know, that really took her back like that. You could tell that there was something

00:46:44.000 really amiss in the house of Lizzo and which, by the way, all of those accomplishments that you just

00:46:49.460 listed that belong to her are exceedingly vanishingly rare in the cultural landscape to

00:46:55.760 break through all the noise in this incredibly fragmented culture and become a mainstream pop

00:47:02.420 star. It's incredibly difficult. So she's already in the 1% of the 1%. Yeah. So that was initially my

00:47:10.180 thought. And because it also came on the tail end of all of this, these far more explosive

00:47:16.840 allegations against Sean Diddy Combs. And I thought somebody's trying to get ahead of something and

00:47:23.980 perhaps then perhaps having been on stage and ratified by Obama and Clinton and Biden and being

00:47:33.000 among this, you know, rarefied crowd sort of made her rethink withdrawing from the public eye. I mean,

00:47:39.640 who knows, it feels very schizophrenic. It doesn't feel like the most sober judgments one might be

00:47:45.440 making within the span of 48 hours. Good point. Yeah. Well, look, I, all I want to hear from Lizzo

00:47:51.080 is thank you. That's it. It's not that hard. Thanks so much. Really appreciate all my many blessings.

00:47:57.280 I don't want to hear about how she doesn't like online negative comments, Meghan Markle. I mean,

00:48:01.600 that's the problem. Like you put yourself in the public eye, you want fame and fortune. There's a downside.

00:48:05.760 We all know it. Most of us take it like men or women and don't go whining and quit. I'm taking my ball and

00:48:11.640 going home. So as it turns out, she wants more of your money because she's back in the business. 0.99

00:48:16.520 Okay. Speaking of Meghan Markle, she decided to show up at a children's hospital, Los Angeles and do 0.87

00:48:22.160 a reading to support literacy. Uh, I guess it was, Oh no, it was a literal annual fundraising at the

00:48:29.740 hospital that aims to create hope and build healthier futures. And she did a little reading,

00:48:37.800 which you can see here. This is one of my favorite. Her great, great aunt Rose was a true dynamo

00:48:44.300 who'd worked building airplanes a long time ago. That night as Rosie lay wide-eyed in bed, a daring

00:48:50.960 idea cracked into her head. Did you know that cheddar cheese spray keeps the snakes away?

00:48:56.440 So have you ever done a charity event and then you run and make sure that everybody gets to see it,

00:49:07.300 uh, in the video and promote it and make sure they know you did the charity event? Cause that

00:49:13.320 seems to be her pattern. I'm amazed. She's not reading from the bench. Her children's book

00:49:18.920 about her husband being the greatest father on the planet. I mean, no, no, and no. And also I think

00:49:27.140 I cannot look, this may say more about me than it does about her. I doubt it, but I will offer that

00:49:32.840 disclaimer. I cannot look at anything she does without looking at it through the prism of who

00:49:39.100 and what she's trying to poke. Kate Middleton, as we know, is very sick with cancer. This one shows up 0.99

00:49:47.340 at a children's hospital. You know, it just, it feels cynical. It feels like, look at me,

00:49:54.040 look how magnanimous I am. You know, this is the same woman who uninvited took a camera crew down to 0.97

00:50:00.700 Uvalde. You want to talk about a sacred space. That is a sacred space. She had zero business being there.

00:50:07.980 You want to help? Why don't you cut a check? You want to help? Why don't you talk to some of your

00:50:11.700 very famous, powerful friends and see what you can do behind the scenes quietly? Yeah.

00:50:16.800 Everything she does has a camera attached to it. And there's a reason. I mean, there, look, 0.94

00:50:21.380 I'm a public figure. I do charitable work. I don't put it all over the internet unless the person says

00:50:26.660 to me, would you promote it to draw attention? Then I'll do it. But there are a lot of charitable

00:50:31.500 things that I do that I'm sure you do that other well-known people do. And you don't see us saying,

00:50:36.980 I really would love you to give me credit for it because what I'm doing here is really

00:50:41.620 promoting myself. That's what she is doing in my view. That's what she always does. You can take

00:50:48.200 it to the bank. Oh, it's the famous Steinbrenner quote, right? Like George Steinbrenner, one of the

00:50:52.880 great bullies of New York, but who did a lot of charitable work behind the scenes. And I don't know

00:50:57.500 if this was his original saying, but it went something like, if you do something good for somebody else

00:51:03.380 and more than two people know, you did it for the wrong reason. And I love that.

00:51:08.020 That's so good. It's so perfect. And we know everything. I don't think she says yes,

00:51:12.960 unless she knows there's going to be a camera there. Maureen Callahan, amazing as always.

00:51:17.540 Thanks, Megan. Thank you so much for having me. It's so fun.

00:51:20.300 And why is it whenever you come here, there's terrible weather outside?

00:51:23.840 There's terrible weather. But before we wrap up, because we didn't really get into

00:51:28.040 American Riviera Orchard, which Megan's forthcoming lifestyle brand. I think we're all

00:51:36.500 refreshing constantly, right? When is the product line? When is the product line?

00:51:41.880 I did the most digging I could do, and I did find something. And I thought,

00:51:47.320 if anyone should have it, you should have it. Oh, God. So I brought it for you.

00:51:50.900 You brought presents? Just nothing big. But it's a little teaser to come of

00:51:57.500 what Megan has in store for us. I've got to see this. Oh, my God. Valentino. All right.

00:52:04.080 What is in here? 1.00

00:52:09.820 American fucking grifters. Montecito. 1.00

00:52:16.360 This is going in my main powder room today. Oh, my God. A place of honor. Oh, my God.

00:52:24.160 Everyone's going to want these. Where can we get these, Maureen? This is specially made.

00:52:26.980 This was specially made. Indeed. I have to give a shout out to some anonymous hero on Reddit who

00:52:33.780 very swiftly took the American Riviera Orchard calligraphy and grafted it onto the logo.

00:52:43.560 This is beautiful. This is so clever. Yes, this is a website I would go to.

00:52:47.600 Absolutely. I'd buy a million of those things. Let's face it. When they really get hers up and 1.00

00:52:52.160 running, we're going to be there every day. She's just the gift that keeps on giving.

00:52:55.620 Greatest performance artist of our time. Bye, lady. Thanks to Maureen and thanks to all of you

00:53:01.580 for joining me back again later today. See you then.

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00:53:29.220 We're fugitives from interval. Like Bonnie and Clyde with better snacks.

00:53:33.220 Espionage? You still as good a shot as you used to be?

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The Megyn Kelly Show - April 04, 2024

Society Marginalizing Biological Women, Shakira Defending Men, and Lizzo's Entitlement, with Maureen Callahan ｜ Ep. 757

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