The Megyn Kelly Show - October 22, 2026


The Ilhan Omar Web of Lies, and Her Shock "Not To My Knowledge" Answer About Marrying Her Brother, with Viva Frei | 1424

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00:00:30.660 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.
00:00:42.360 Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.
00:00:45.360 Oh, my gosh. We have a lot to talk about.
00:00:48.860 Ilhan Omar went on with Chris Hayes on MS Now last night, and what a debacle.
00:00:57.060 Holy cow. The principal question, or at least one of the very principal questions in the case
00:01:06.900 was posed to her messily, pathetically, poorly by Chris Hayes in his level best effort to
00:01:16.960 diminish the whole story. And she couldn't answer it with a straight answer. It's unbelievable.
00:01:24.420 He did ask her about her brusband, one of the longstanding allegations that she married her biological brother who'd been living in the UK in an attempt to get him a green card.
00:01:37.800 This is the same guy who did get married to her, got a temporary green card and then decided to apply for a permanent green card.
00:01:46.300 And when immigration authorities started asking questions about his marriage to what they believed was a U.S. citizen, Ilhan Omar, he withdrew the application.
00:01:56.480 That same guy.
00:01:58.480 Chris Hayes did his level best to give her a complete pass on it, but clearly he knew he would be an absolute laughingstock if he didn't raise it.
00:02:09.680 It was truly the only substantive exchange of the entire half an hour interview.
00:02:14.840 he completely fell down on the job that's another thing which i'll get to in a second 0.71
00:02:20.080 but here in his one meager pathetic attempt at journalism he raises the issue of the brusband 0.79
00:02:29.220 and she completely whiffed it watch this there are right-wing people who believe that this man 0.94
00:02:37.700 was your brother right you have called it a disgusting lie well you who who was this man
00:02:43.700 that was your husband when did they start saying that he was your brother why i started with the
00:02:50.100 somali blog um uh that i don't know if it still exists but somebody put in there that you know
00:02:57.100 that he had to have been my brother or something to that effect and um right-wing conspiracy
00:03:04.060 theorists in minneapolis got a hold of it and they just kind of went and like found random people
00:03:09.860 who are like she introduced us uh you know she introduced him to us and said he was her brother
00:03:16.420 um which is you know it's insane i mean i don't i don't know those people that they
00:03:22.260 talk about he was you were not related to him at all not that there's not like there's not some
00:03:27.900 weird kernel of truth that through some game of my knowledge that was the big gotcha right in
00:03:32.800 terms of what you're talking about promising like we're gonna nail her on the marriage yeah that was
00:03:37.080 the source of the immigration fraud. That no longer seems to be the issue that they are
00:03:42.060 putatively investigating, right? Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Not to my knowledge.
00:03:48.780 That's unbelievable. I mean, that's literally unbelievable. There's a reason she phrased it
00:03:53.540 that way. She is trying to avoid criminal liability. That's why she said that. Knowing
00:03:59.240 is an element of the crime that she's potentially looking at their statute of limitations or not
00:04:05.360 to prove that she knew he was her relative would be an element of the crime. And she's
00:04:10.200 clearly told the federal investigators that it's not to her knowledge that she married her brother,
00:04:16.300 which is her only escape because she very much did, according to all of the evidence
00:04:20.760 that has been assembled by very strong reporters like Scott Johnson of Powerline
00:04:25.360 and our friend from Alpha News the other day. The evidence appears overwhelming that she married
00:04:32.020 her brother. And now when the cameras are on her, that's the best she can come up with.
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00:05:50.240 Before she was facing federal raids and a potential arrest and her sister's phone and her phone being in the hands of the DOJ, she was giving different answers.
00:06:06.660 She was more explicit, clearly between just a month ago and now she's been briefed by a legal team on her exposure because Lindell, you know, Mike Lindell of MyPillow fame, he has his little TV outlet and he has reporters who go to Capitol Hill and ask questions and so on.
00:06:31.500 And one of them asked Ilhan Omar last month, September of 2026, if she married her brother
00:06:38.960 and listen to what she said.
00:06:41.360 Can you just tell us straight up, did you marry your brother?
00:06:43.320 Absolutely not. 1.00
00:06:44.260 What a ridiculous thing to ask. 0.99
00:06:45.840 Did you marry your brother? 1.00
00:06:47.580 Absolutely not.
00:06:48.440 Absolutely not.
00:06:49.300 That's disgusting.
00:06:50.400 Nobody should be doing that.
00:06:51.600 Why are you being criminally investigated?
00:06:52.880 I am not.
00:06:53.780 Yes, you are.
00:06:54.440 I am not.
00:06:55.480 Well, then Tom Homan's a liar or what? 0.94
00:06:56.940 He is. 1.00
00:06:57.680 He's been saying some dumb shit like you. 1.00
00:06:59.740 Oh, thank you, Congresswoman. 1.00
00:07:01.500 good job to that reporter and to lindell tv absolutely not that's disgusting that is what
00:07:09.760 we call in the deception detection business a convincing statement and it's problematic and
00:07:16.200 it's a tell that you're a liar ask phil houston you guys know he and i go way back we've had him
00:07:20.600 on the show many times he's the human lie detector cia 25 years discovering double agents working 0.97
00:07:26.700 against the United States for half of it and discovering double agents within the CIA at Langley
00:07:33.860 for the other half. He wrote the books by the lie. I've taken his class many times. One of the main
00:07:40.120 indicators of deception is convincing statements. Megyn Kelly, did you marry your brother? No.
00:07:49.260 No. No. I married Doug Brunt. No relation. Seriously, think about it, you guys. Would
00:07:59.560 you then feel the need to ask, that's disgusting, in the high inflection? Would you feel the
00:08:08.300 need to convince someone that it's disgusting to marry your sibling? Absolutely. You would 0.98
00:08:14.440 not, you would say no. Nope. Watch. Watch it again. Can you just tell us straight up,
00:08:24.160 did you marry your brother? Absolutely not. What a ridiculous thing to ask.
00:08:27.620 Did you marry your brother? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. That's disgusting. 1.00
00:08:32.220 Nobody should be doing that. Why are you being criminally 0.60
00:08:34.240 investigated? I am not. Yes, you are. I am not.
00:08:37.300 Well, then Tom Homan's a liar or what? He is. He's saying some dumb shit like you. 0.94
00:08:41.600 Oh, thank you, Congresswoman. 1.00
00:08:44.440 OK, so that's disgusting. Nobody should be doing that. Again, it's a convincing statement. And then the third indicator of deception there is. He's a dumb bitch like you. Attacking aggression against the questioner and attacking the question and the questioner. 0.99
00:09:05.860 These are classic signs of deception. Trust me, I know Phil Houston very well. I know his course material very well. I've sat for hours, I mean, almost 20 hours in his classes. It's called a cluster.
00:09:22.280 The signs of deception have to happen within the first five seconds of when the question was asked.
00:09:27.060 And they did.
00:09:29.080 The high-pitched inflection, the that's disgusting, a convincing statement.
00:09:35.960 Nobody should be doing that, a convincing statement, and attacking the questioner in the question. 1.00
00:09:41.680 He's a dumb shit like you. 1.00
00:09:43.520 Okay, this is classic lying. 1.00
00:09:46.980 That's what we just saw there.
00:09:48.520 And now listen to her in the Chris Hayes interview, where she's clearly been briefed by lawyers.
00:09:55.400 Watch.
00:09:56.300 There are right wing people who believe that this man was your brother. 0.70
00:10:00.660 You have called it a disgusting lie.
00:10:03.100 Who was this man that was your husband?
00:10:06.000 When did they start saying that he was your brother?
00:10:08.460 Why?
00:10:09.980 I started with the Somali blog that I don't know if it still exists,
00:10:16.340 but somebody put in there that you know that he had to have been my brother or something to that
00:10:21.540 effect and um right-wing conspiracy theorists in minneapolis got a hold of it and they just kind
00:10:29.400 of went and like found random people who are like she introduced us uh you know she introduced him
00:10:35.460 to us and said he was her brother um which is you know just insane i mean i don't i don't know
00:10:42.500 those people that they talk about he was you were not related to him at all not that there's
00:10:48.900 not some weird kernel of truth that's through some game of my knowledge so it is a felony
00:10:55.440 to lie to federal investigators and she clearly told them that it's she didn't marry her brother
00:11:04.880 to her knowledge. And she's trying not to tell a new lie, because if you lie to federal
00:11:13.120 investigators, it's a felony. She's trying not to do that because she doesn't want to rejigger 0.99
00:11:17.320 the five-year statute of limitations on perjury, on lying to federal investigators, which they've
00:11:24.340 gotten, you know, that's what they got Mike Flynn on. So she's got to stick with that new story,
00:11:29.940 not to my knowledge, when she's sitting across from MSNBC's Chris Hayes. It's as plain as the
00:11:35.340 nose on your face. It is a very obvious lie. I'm going to get to Chris Hayes in a minute.
00:11:41.300 I don't want to forget. I'm making a note to come back to him. There's a reason we included his
00:11:45.740 non-follow-up in the exchange that we just showed you. Okay, back to him in a second,
00:11:51.360 but let's stay over the target. Ilhan Omar did marry her brother. She did. And there is
00:11:58.180 overwhelming evidence of this, okay? First, let me refer you back to our guest, Preya Samson-Dar,
00:12:08.400 formerly of Alpha News, who was just on the program the other day. She was here on Tuesday.
00:12:14.020 She's one of the three reporters who's been owning the Omar story for the past 10 years,
00:12:18.340 10 years, okay? Scott Johnson is the other one, and David Steinberg of Powerline, the latter tier
00:12:25.520 with Powerline for the past 10 years. So these are the people who know more about this than
00:12:29.340 anyone. And Preya told us, remember on Tuesday when she was with Alpha News in 2016, she discovered
00:12:36.600 the brother, the Bresbans, resume online. And she tracked him down via email and asked him
00:12:46.360 about his marriage to his sister, Ilhan Omar. And his response on the record in an email was,
00:12:54.720 she reported, quote, no way am I affiliated with anyone in your articles, nor do I recall
00:13:02.600 being married to anyone, at least from what I remember. What? Nor do I recall being married
00:13:13.460 to anyone, at least from what I remember. This is the man she's corresponding with who was married
00:13:22.240 to Ilhan Omar. His name is Ahmed, it's a long name, Ahmed Nur Syed Elmi.
00:13:34.140 Ahmed Nur Syed Elmi. That's the man who was her brusband. And that's the man saying in an email,
00:13:43.080 no way am I affiliated with anyone in your articles, nor do I recall being married to anyone,
00:13:49.880 at least from what I remember. Now, there is no dispute that the name of Ilhan Omar's
00:13:57.540 second husband, she married Hersey in a Muslim ceremony, but not a legal one. So that marriage
00:14:04.280 was not legal years and years ago. Then two years later, or some years later, a few years later,
00:14:10.940 she married a man named Ahmed Noor Syed Elmi. There's no question about that. That's who she
00:14:17.960 married a man named Ahmed Noor Saeed Elmi in 2009. And in 2011, she was claiming their marriage,
00:14:27.880 like their abandonment or they weren't together or something like that. And she
00:14:31.240 got back together with Elmi and they wound up filing joint tax returns together, even though
00:14:36.900 she was legally married to Ahmed Noor Saeed Elmi still when she did that, which caused some legal
00:14:43.040 problems for her later. Then finally, she got a proper divorce from Elmi in 2017. And it is Elmi
00:14:50.480 who then got his temporary green card when he married her and then sought a more permanent one
00:14:56.540 and then withdrew the papers, the request, when the immigration authorities started asking
00:15:01.540 questions about that marriage. So the real question is, it's not that was she married
00:15:06.780 to Ahmed Noor Syed Elmi.
00:15:10.000 She was.
00:15:11.360 The only question is,
00:15:12.680 was that her brother?
00:15:15.040 Okay, that's the one.
00:15:15.660 Not to her knowledge.
00:15:16.900 Well, there is a lot of proof
00:15:20.100 that that man she married
00:15:22.040 was indeed her brother,
00:15:24.320 thanks to those three reporters
00:15:25.440 that I just told you about.
00:15:26.660 Here is one.
00:15:28.420 And this is a lot of Preya's reporting.
00:15:31.740 There is one Instagram screenshot
00:15:34.320 saved by Powerline.
00:15:35.560 Okay, so this is actually not Preya.
00:15:36.780 his power line is the other two, Steinberg and Johnson, showing that one day after Ilhan Omar's
00:15:42.880 daughter was born in 2012, he, Ahmed Elmi, posted a picture to his Instagram account of him holding 1.00
00:15:51.540 a baby with the caption, nieces, this is his caption, no shit, quote, fresh out of the vagina. 0.99
00:15:57.500 And there he is holding a little baby. 0.99
00:16:04.120 And we are told by the reporting on Powerline that Ilhan Omar liked the post.
00:16:10.860 OK, this is 2012.
00:16:13.560 Keep in mind, she's not yet a public figure.
00:16:16.380 She's she hasn't even yet run for Minnesota statehouse representative.
00:16:21.900 So they're being a lot bolder with their social media.
00:16:26.360 That's him.
00:16:27.500 One day after her daughter was born in 2012, and she's married to him at this point, but 0.98
00:16:34.120 he posted a picture to his Instagram saying, nieces fresh out of the vagina, and she reportedly 0.98
00:16:40.660 liked it. 0.99
00:16:41.860 Let's fast forward to four years later, August of 2016.
00:16:46.580 This is Preya's reporting from when she was with Alpha News.
00:16:49.060 She found an Instagram post, again, by Ahmed, calling two young twin girls with a backpack from a primary school in Camden, England, his nieces.
00:17:05.160 Ilan's Instagram account loved the post.
00:17:09.300 Okay, so Ilan Omar loved this post.
00:17:12.220 Again, they are still married at this point, and the twin girls who he's celebrating here
00:17:19.460 are indeed his nieces.
00:17:22.300 They're not Ilan's children.
00:17:24.300 They're not Sarah's children, which is another sister of theirs who came with Ilan to the
00:17:29.100 United States in 1995.
00:17:31.080 They are Layla Nur Said Elmi's children.
00:17:35.440 Layla is their biggest, their eldest sister.
00:17:40.080 She has twin daughters.
00:17:42.220 So Ahmed called these two twin girls his nieces in a 2016 post.
00:17:50.180 So he is saying that Ilhan's daughter is his niece and Leila's twin daughters are his nieces. 0.79
00:17:56.700 And that is true because he is the brother of Ilhan Omar and of Leila Nur-Said Elmi.
00:18:08.320 He is the brother of both of them.
00:18:10.280 And again, Ilhan Omar loved his post. She's related to them. She is loving the post that he is doing over in the UK because he's her brother.
00:18:23.460 And she doesn't think anybody knows anything about the fact that while they have this technically legal marriage, only because they hadn't outed their actual blood relationship, that he's her brother, he's her family member.
00:18:38.260 She's celebrating the birth of children and the celebration of her sister's children and so on.
00:18:42.800 And she doesn't think anybody's going to find this out.
00:18:46.000 Okay, there's more.
00:18:46.760 In 2015, a year before that, there was a post from Ilhan Omar about Layla's twins, who are on two horses with Ilhan Omar in the picture, being her nieces.
00:19:00.260 Again, the only sister she's owned up to is Sarah, the one who's doing a book tour right now, who moved to Africa eventually.
00:19:07.160 But she came over with Ilhan and Ilhan's dad in 1995.
00:19:11.440 It was just the three of them.
00:19:13.140 The family reportedly split.
00:19:15.200 Layla, the eldest sister, she went to the U.K. with Ahmed and another brother, we believe, named Muhammad.
00:19:23.980 I don't know much about the other one.
00:19:26.420 But for sure, Layla was over in the U.K. with Ahmed and raising him.
00:19:30.500 Ahmed, by my calculation, was two years younger than Ilan.
00:19:33.260 He was 10 when she was 12.
00:19:36.840 And he stayed in the U.K. and was raised by Layla, who I think was 22 at the time.
00:19:41.400 and late and there are social media posts again outed um by preya in which leila and ahmed are
00:19:51.680 calling each other mom and son and there's a close-up picture of his face and it's the same
00:19:57.700 guy quite clearly we see later identified as ilan's husband this guy is calling his big sister
00:20:06.080 his mom, because when half of the family, the mother died when the children were young.
00:20:11.720 So when the dad, Ilan, and Sarah fled to the United States and got refugee status in 1995,
00:20:19.440 we believe without him disclosing his role as a colonel in this murderous regime over in Somalia,
00:20:27.220 three of them stayed in the UK, Leila, Ahmed, and Mohammed. And so they're all over social media.
00:20:36.080 acknowledging one another as siblings, as siblings prior to Ilhan Omar running for office.
00:20:45.160 Okay, and that's not all. I want to get into this Powerline article that we haven't yet
00:20:49.120 dissected by David Steinberg in 2019. He writes that in 2009, Omar was a 26-year-old alleged
00:20:58.240 U.S. citizen because she had, quote, naturalized in 2000. So she was 29 years old.
00:21:08.440 In 1995, she had entered the U.S., he writes, as a fraudulent member of the Omar family
00:21:14.740 because Ilhan Omar's last name is not Omar. She has us believe that that's her maiden name,
00:21:22.160 But it's not. It's Elmi. It's the same last name as we are now seeing in all of these other publications about her family. It's Nur Saeed Elmi. Nur Saeed Elmi. Nur Saeed Elmi.
00:21:39.740 And what happened, according to these reporters, is there was the Omar family in Somalia, and they were getting refugee status here in the United States, and they could take a couple of the Elmys.
00:21:54.720 And that's why Ilhan went at age 12, and her sister Sara went, who was also young, and it appears the dad went.
00:22:02.740 And we're suddenly now Omars, not Elmys.
00:22:06.140 and and that too may be under investigation as immigration fraud um so this is what he writes
00:22:14.700 that she she came into the united states as a fraudulent member of the omar family that is not
00:22:20.100 her family the omar family is a second unrelated family which was being granted asylum by the united
00:22:25.040 states the omars allowed ilan her genetic sister sarah and her genetic father nurse saeed to use
00:22:33.200 false names to apply for asylums as members of the Omar family. The above three received asylum
00:22:40.420 in the U.S., while Ilan's three other siblings, using their real names, managed to get asylum
00:22:45.680 in the U.K. Ilan Omar's fame before applying for asylum was Ilan Nur Saeed Elmi. And let me just
00:22:57.500 tell you something. There's a new court filing in the current case against her by the DOJ. 0.97
00:23:04.980 By the way, it got assigned to Judge Boesberg. Fucking nightmare. You know that Judge Jeb 1.00
00:23:10.980 Boesberg has been trying to shut down Trump's immigration authority and his crackdown on other
00:23:17.200 improperly stationed in the United States people like Mahmoud Khalil. There's been all sorts of
00:23:23.000 cases, Judge Bozberg cannot stand Donald Trump. So this is an unfortunate pull for the administration,
00:23:28.460 but it is what it is. And it was his magistrate judge who works under him who granted that search
00:23:32.520 warrant. But in any event, the principal judge will be Judge Bozberg. But the judge, he's conducting
00:23:39.280 these proceedings. And the DOJ just filed a three-page filing yesterday because there was a
00:23:46.780 motion by the media to unseal the search warrant of Elon's home. Of course, yes, we want to see it.
00:23:52.640 What is this? Like, why is this under seal? There's no reason for it. So the media does what it normally does, which is to say we have a First Amendment right and the public has a First Amendment right to see the search warrant. Unseal this. Judicial proceedings are not normally secret. And the DOJ filed a response to this. And here is how they captioned their response.
00:24:14.320 Before the court are three applications to unseal ex parte materials and proceedings relating to a federal search warrant for the personal residence in the District of Columbia of Congresswoman Ilhan Nur Said Elmi, a.k.a. Ilhan Abdullah Omar, the subject.
00:24:34.440 So the DOJ has outed her real name, Ilhan Nur-Said Elmi, Nur-Said Elmi, like Ahmed Nur-Said Elmi, the brother in the UK, who she married in 2009.
00:24:50.540 This is the DOJ telegraphing to the world that she committed immigration fraud when she got here. 0.83
00:24:56.360 She's not an Omar.
00:24:58.080 She's an Elmi. 0.98
00:24:59.420 The father committed it, and she committed it. 0.99
00:25:01.860 She was a minor, but she got in under the father and then got naturalized under Omar.
00:25:07.880 And if the father was committing immigration fraud when he came in, then there's a real
00:25:12.060 question about when he was naturalized, if he was naturalized.
00:25:16.080 Five years later in 2000, it was lawful.
00:25:19.340 And if his naturalization wasn't lawful, query whether hers could have been because hers
00:25:23.780 was derivative, all separate and apart from the issue of whether she was actually a minor
00:25:28.140 in 2000, which she would have had to be to get naturalization under a derivative status.
00:25:37.260 So all of those are questions floating, but the DOJ has finally put in a court filing for us all
00:25:41.600 to see that Ilhan Omar's real name is Ilhan Nur Saeed Elmi. And refer back to all those social
00:25:50.960 media posts I just walked you through. Where the F was this information, Chris Hayes,
00:25:57.220 when you were questioning this woman? Standby. Back to the Powerline report by Steinberg in 2019.
00:26:09.880 He reports that Ilan and Ahmed married in 2009, presumably to benefit in some way from a fraudulent
00:26:17.140 marriage. Um, in December, 2016, Elon reported, Oh, this is very interesting. Okay. This is
00:26:25.220 interesting. This is an acknowledgement that Layla is in fact, Elon's sister. So it's not,
00:26:31.440 I mean, those social media posts are enough to draw the conclusion, but there's more evidence
00:26:35.760 and some intrepid reporters all pitched into tracking this down. In December, 2016, Elon
00:26:42.780 reported that she was harassed by a cab driver while in Washington, D.C., attending meetings.
00:26:49.520 She claimed that the cab driver called her ISIS and threatened to remove her hijab. A few days
00:26:54.980 later, Ilan filed a report with the D.C. Department of For Hire Vehicles and the D.C. Office of Human
00:27:00.600 Rights. Reading from the Steinberg report in Powerline, Ilan initially stated that she was
00:27:06.760 accompanied in the cab by her, quote, sister. This is Ilhan Omar. I mean, we now know that's
00:27:13.780 not the name, Ilhan Nur Said Elmi, in her complaint about being discriminated against
00:27:20.760 and targeted. She referred to being in the cab by her, quote, sister. So Steinberg reports,
00:27:28.540 I received a copy of Ilhan's report via a FOIA request. The description of the person who Ilhan
00:27:35.340 had been in the cab with was redacted. Now, why is that redacted? This person's an eyewitness to
00:27:42.700 this alleged crime. Who redacted it and why? But Suleiman Akso is a frequent host of social events
00:27:51.760 for the Washington, D.C., Somali-American community. And on December 9th, 2016, Suleiman
00:28:00.820 Axo stated online, quote, on Wednesday night, I had an opportunity to have dinner with state
00:28:08.460 representative elect Ilhan Omar and her lovely sister, Leila Elmi. 2016, this is someone from
00:28:18.020 the Somali American community posting online, not realizing that there was an issue here,
00:28:23.680 that he was with Ilhan Omar and her lovely sister, Leila Elmi. Now, who would have told him that
00:28:30.160 Leila Elmi was Ilan's sister. Obviously, it was Ilan Omar, also known as Ilan Nur Saeed Elmi.
00:28:38.800 This was posted in 2016 while Ilan was married to Ahmed Nur Saeed Elmi. Okay, they're being very
00:28:48.300 loose with all of this because they think they've gotten away with it and they don't think anybody's
00:28:52.260 ever going to come track any of this down. He goes on to write as follows, it is not plausible
00:28:57.720 that AXO simply made a mistake.
00:29:00.280 One would have had to believe
00:29:01.140 that AXO had dinner with Ilan and a second woman,
00:29:03.580 that the woman was introduced to him
00:29:05.180 as any other person alive,
00:29:07.760 and that a couple days later,
00:29:09.000 he made the one in seven billion mistake
00:29:11.200 of misremembering this woman
00:29:12.500 as Ilan Omar's lovely sister, Leila Elmi.
00:29:17.280 He writes as follows,
00:29:18.340 Ilan has steadfastly refused to give media
00:29:21.300 the names of any of her siblings besides Sarah Noor.
00:29:26.200 That Noor, I believe is her married name.
00:29:27.720 That's the sister who came over with her, who wrote the book, who's on the book tour, who's now missing and is blowing off the book tour events.
00:29:33.940 The only rational explanation, quote, Leila Elmi was in the United States to visit Ilhan Omar, attended this dinner with her, and Ilhan introduced her, just as AXO describes.
00:29:48.420 We now have verifiable evidence that Ilhan Omar, Sarah Noor, and Leila Elmi are siblings, with a father named Nur Saeed Elmi.
00:29:58.080 All that remains is to verify our source's claims, he's writing here in 2019, that Ahmed
00:30:03.680 Nur Saeed Elmi is indeed Layla Nur Saeed Elmi's brother.
00:30:10.200 We have a great easy start, he writes.
00:30:13.460 Layla and Ahmed already appear to be two of the only three Nur Saeed Elmis in the United
00:30:22.160 Kingdom.
00:30:22.680 And you remember when Preya was here on Tuesday and she explained to us the Somali naming process.
00:30:30.220 Each of those names, Nur, Saeed, Elmi, comes from the paternal line from Ilhan's father, the grandfather, the great-grandfather.
00:30:39.300 Nur, Saeed, Elmi.
00:30:40.400 There are only three in the United Kingdom, and Layla and Ahmed are two of them.
00:30:47.980 Next, Layla's marriage certificate attests that Layla Noor Saeed Elmi lived in Camden, England,
00:30:56.180 a borough of London, in 1997, and she was 24 years old at the time. So I was right. In 1995,
00:31:02.360 when Ilan came here, her big sister was 22. Yeah, 22. She stayed in the UK,
00:31:10.860 And she raised Ahmed as her son. Ahmed Nur Said Elmi was 12 in 1997. So that would have made him 10 in 1995 when Ilan was 12. She's two years older than he is. Per his own admission, he attended a school where? In Camden, London, England, for students aged 11 to 18, Haverstock School.
00:31:34.600 um then again then here they reference the fact that the prayers reporting that in august of 16
00:31:44.180 ahmed called two young twin girls with backpacks in camden his nieces and ilan omar liked it
00:31:50.340 and then ilan's instagram post picturing herself with the same twin girls years later now on horses
00:31:55.580 um marking her location as camden lock village in england and she also called the daughters
00:32:03.080 her nieces. Those twin girls are indeed the daughters of Layla Nur Said Elmi.
00:32:09.060 This can be confirmed by anyone through posts that are currently active
00:32:12.720 on Muhammad Nur Said Elmi's Facebook account. We believe that's the father. It's unclear to me
00:32:19.140 whether there's a third brother named Muhammad or it's just the dad. It's kind of irrelevant
00:32:22.920 for right now. So he concludes, we now have verifiable evidence that Sarah Noor, Ilhan Omar,
00:32:28.840 and Layla Elmi are siblings with a father named Nur Saeed Elmi. Layla Elmi and Ahmed Nur Saeed
00:32:34.760 Elmi both lived in the same neighborhood of London and know one another and are all over
00:32:39.720 the internet calling each other mom and son. And they both refer to Layla's children as, well,
00:32:50.060 he refers to Layla's children as his nieces, a post Ilan liked. He referred to Ilan's daughter
00:32:55.600 as his niece. Both Ilan and Ahmed call Layla's Elmi, Layla Elmi's children, their nieces.
00:33:04.560 Okay. That's, it's, it's just, it's overwhelming. It is absolutely overwhelming. And Ilan Omar is
00:33:13.440 all over the record as, you know, lying about this relationship. Each one of those would be 0.92
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00:34:52.700 that he made a joke out of the allegations about the brother and then failed to follow up when she
00:34:59.160 said, not to my knowledge, any reporter worth their salt, all it would take is not to your
00:35:04.120 knowledge. What do you mean? Everyone knows whether they married a sibling. What do you
00:35:09.220 mean not to your knowledge? Was he your brother or wasn't he? Pin her down. Just one fucking
00:35:15.440 follow up, but he wouldn't do it. And let me tell you something. Do you recall when Pete Hegseth was 0.99
00:35:20.800 in the running for defense secretary, now secretary of war, and the ridiculous CBS report 0.89
00:35:27.700 claiming that he had raped a woman hit and he was cross-examined about whether he was a rapist by 0.96
00:35:32.980 every reporter in the United States. And we went through the report, the police report,
00:35:38.500 like tooth and nail. And it was very clear this woman was lying. They had had an interlude,
00:35:43.140 but it was clearly voluntary. Her husband and children were down the hall asleep. She was
00:35:47.300 obviously mortified. And she came up with a lie. In any event, you remember when that happened?
00:35:52.860 And then I got an exclusive interview with Pete shortly thereafter. But before he was confirmed,
00:35:57.940 I went down to D.C., we aired it on this program, and I had to ask him all the questions about whether he raped that woman and the truth of his behavior toward her and other women, too.
00:36:13.240 Pete was a friend of mine from Fox.
00:36:15.800 I didn't believe he did it.
00:36:17.680 I think he was very grateful to me for the fair and balanced coverage we gave him on this show.
00:36:21.260 But did I, when I sat across from him, give him a complete pass, laugh off all the allegations and not inquire as to whether this was possible and get factual responses to the factual allegations that were standing against him?
00:36:38.420 Absolutely not.
00:36:39.560 I did my job.
00:36:42.040 Was it pleasant?
00:36:43.340 Did I want to make Pete look bad?
00:36:44.960 Did I enjoy confronting him with allegations? 0.99
00:36:47.520 I strongly believed were absolute bullshit that were the nastiest allegations you can make against 0.99
00:36:53.480 a man. No, I did not enjoy it, but I did my duty. Chris Hayes, what a disgusting simp. 0.99
00:37:03.360 Honestly, the way the joke and the the attempt to run cover for her with the who was this? 0.84
00:37:10.280 When did they start alleging this and why? The compound question was obviously an attempt to let her just choose one. The simple question, who was this? Would have been absolutely damning. Who is Ahmed Noor Saeed Elmi? Ask that. What is your real name?
00:37:32.620 Because just today, madam, the DOJ filed a brief saying your actual name is Ilan Nur Saeed Elmi.
00:37:42.080 Where was that question?
00:37:43.700 What a dereliction.
00:37:46.180 And then the follow up, you know, this like, oh, it's insane, right?
00:37:51.300 I mean, this is insane.
00:37:52.360 You're not related to him at all, right?
00:37:54.860 And not to my knowledge.
00:37:57.560 And no follow up.
00:37:59.060 That's why we included his follow-up response, which was just yucking it up.
00:38:03.720 Not, not, what do you mean not to your knowledge?
00:38:08.460 What?
00:38:09.260 Any reporter worth his or her salt would have heard it and followed up.
00:38:14.020 He, he didn't want to go there.
00:38:16.940 He's convinced himself it is bigoted to ask because that's what she's been telling people.
00:38:23.180 Okay, I played you her response to the Mike Lindell reporter.
00:38:27.540 Absolutely not. 0.95
00:38:28.440 And then she attacked the questioner and then tried to say, that's disgusting.
00:38:33.740 OK, but here are some of her other answers on this, which if you know and you're Chris Hayes that you're going to ask this question, you have to have the prior statements in your hand. 1.00
00:38:41.640 You idiot. He's not an idiot. He's biased. He's a left wing hack. 1.00
00:38:47.900 Only a hack would behave that way in this interview.
00:38:52.200 This is what she told NPR. I think this is Minnesota Public Radio in 2016.
00:38:58.440 because this was starting to bubble up.
00:39:01.640 She said, I have yet to legally divorce Ahmed Noor Saeed Elmi,
00:39:06.460 but I'm in the process of doing so.
00:39:09.520 Insinuations that Ahmed Noor Saeed Elmi is my brother
00:39:12.940 are absurd and offensive.
00:39:15.200 FYI, that's not a denial.
00:39:17.120 The insinuations are absurd and denial
00:39:19.660 and absurd and offensive.
00:39:22.240 But are they true?
00:39:25.140 Are they true?
00:39:25.800 I mean, this is like, again, this is a liar's way of issuing a denial.
00:39:30.300 If I say to you, did you marry your sibling?
00:39:33.040 You would say no.
00:39:35.600 You would not respond with insinuations that this man is my brother are absurd and offensive. 0.92
00:39:44.700 That's liar talk. 0.78
00:39:46.420 That's what that is.
00:39:48.300 Here's the Minnesota Minneapolis Star Tribune, same year, 2016.
00:39:53.380 The campaign would not make either Omar or Hersey, meaning her original husband, like the Muslim guy who she had the Muslim ceremony with, who she would eventually legally marry after her divorce from her brother alleged was complete.
00:40:12.480 The campaign would not make either Ilhan Omar or the husband Hersey available for comment, releasing a statement from Omar instead, quote, a number of baseless, absurd rumors that don't bear repeating have been made recently about my personal life and family.
00:40:28.500 Just a number of absurd rumors.
00:40:31.340 Let me be clear.
00:40:32.120 They are categorically false.
00:40:33.560 Again, this is not what that could be about some other rumor that that doesn't hit it.
00:40:38.040 Don't forget, a truth teller gets right over the target.
00:40:41.240 he or she sits there because the truth is their ally. Think about it. Did you marry your sibling?
00:40:49.440 No, no, no. And not only that, you might say, and there'll be no blood test, DNA test,
00:40:59.260 or any other proof whatsoever that I married my sibling because he's not.
00:41:03.360 Bye. That's it. Not, it's absurd. It is an offensive insinuation. You are a shit. That is disgusting. This is what we've been getting from her. Here's Minneapolis Star Tribune in 2018, or sorry, 19, when it came up again.
00:41:23.740 Uh, it's really, really, it's, it's a really strange, right?
00:41:31.620 No, it's really strange, right?
00:41:33.200 To prove a negative, uh, quote, if someone was asking me, do I have a brother by that
00:41:40.180 name?
00:41:40.740 I don't.
00:41:43.600 So here she is denying that she has a brother by that name, Ahmed Noor Saeed Elmi.
00:41:51.460 But she does. And the jig is almost up, my friends. I don't know whether this DOJ probe is all about the brother or about the brother husband at all. I'm sure it's a piece of it, because if she married her brother and said he wasn't and then went on to try to help him get a green card, temporary and then permanent, that's all immigration fraud.
00:42:17.040 All of those are felonies. And then the number of times that she lied about it, potentially as she filled out forms, are felonies. And it's, of course, why she's trying to say not to my knowledge now so she doesn't commit a current felony, which would be inside the statute of limitations.
00:42:32.260 The statute of limitations on all those items, those previous felonies, appears to have run.
00:42:37.560 So I don't know whether the DOJ is circling in on this.
00:42:40.680 There is speculation online from an online commentator who goes by Shipwrecked Crew, very smart lawyer, that what they may be zeroing in on now, hold on, I want to get it in front of me,
00:42:52.780 could be the theory that she was not related to the person she claimed was her father.
00:43:03.340 So, you know, this person who brought her over was not, in fact, her father.
00:43:11.660 He's positing and that therefore couldn't have gotten her citizenship.
00:43:16.960 He writes, he reminds us that there's reporting that this all kicked off recently over a group text message in her sister's phone.
00:43:24.980 We do know that her sister's phone was seized in a separate, I don't know if it was at a raid or was it a proceeding where they got it from her.
00:43:34.440 But the sister's phone was seized and the sister has reportedly given an interview to investigators and they have the sister's phone.
00:43:42.700 And he's positing that this was the basis for the warrant to get Ilhan Omar's phone and the raid.
00:43:49.520 And he says there is reporting that this all kicked off recently over a group text message on the sister's phone likely obtained in connection with the fraud investigations in Minneapolis that involve her sister.
00:43:58.660 His sister's got her own sketchy connections in the Minnesota Somali community that was committing fraud.
00:44:05.040 He writes the message must reveal some information about them not being part of the same family.
00:44:09.560 if she, meaning the dad,
00:44:13.840 because the sister and Ilan do appear to be actual sisters.
00:44:16.840 If she acknowledged knowing that this was the case,
00:44:20.120 then she has lied numerous times as an adult
00:44:21.980 about what she knew about her lineage
00:44:23.740 and whether she was naturalized.
00:44:25.740 Lying about citizenship is a federal crime.
00:44:29.360 Lying about citizenship is a federal crime.
00:44:33.540 Now, she was asked what they seized
00:44:37.140 when the feds raided her home.
00:44:39.280 in this Chris Hayes interview.
00:44:42.620 And she denied that any DNA sources
00:44:45.520 like a toothbrush or a hairbrush were taken.
00:44:48.320 Though we are told by a Fox News report
00:44:50.820 and a News Nation report, they already have her DNA.
00:44:53.680 So they could have gotten it via a number of means.
00:44:57.780 You know, any trash bag that you throw away
00:45:00.520 with a Q-tip in it or, you know, old hair from a hairbrush,
00:45:03.940 once you discard your trash,
00:45:05.560 it's considered no longer your property.
00:45:08.220 It's like fair game.
00:45:10.040 And so it's very possible that they did get her garbage at some earlier point.
00:45:13.760 News Nation reported that they did do a dumpster dive on her.
00:45:16.620 Fox News reported that that's not their information.
00:45:19.300 Leland Vittert is standing by his reporting.
00:45:21.340 So I don't know what the truth is, but it does appear they have Ilan's DNA.
00:45:25.140 But she was asked by Chris Hayes about whether they see something relating to DNA.
00:45:28.620 And then she went on to list the items that they took.
00:45:32.800 And she says they have to give you the list so that you have a receipt of the things of yours that they've taken.
00:45:37.380 And here is that answer.
00:45:39.280 So then they start searching the house, right? Um, what, where did they go and what did they
00:45:44.680 take? They went room by room. Um, and they took 17 items. Um, yeah. Those include a number of
00:45:58.040 phones, right? Including your personal phone. Yeah. They took my phone, um, an old phone,
00:46:04.860 I believe that was a travel phone of mine, my youngest daughter's first phone that was also old, sitting in her room,
00:46:17.640 and then a phone that I'd just gotten replaced that was still in mine.
00:46:24.480 There was reporting they took DNA?
00:46:26.860 No.
00:46:28.160 They did not?
00:46:28.900 No.
00:46:30.060 Do you know that for a fact that they didn't take, like, a toothbrush or a comb or something like that?
00:46:33.980 and none of that was listed okay in the because they have to give you a receipt of the items
00:46:38.840 the receipts um so i would have seen if they did take anything that had uh contained dna and they
00:46:45.640 didn't like make a request for you of like a swab or anything like no okay so there you have it they
00:46:52.900 wanted the phone they wanted the actual phone they wanted to see for themselves the text messaging
00:46:58.260 And don't forget, they have a technology that will download your phone and all sorts of things that you think you've deleted.
00:47:07.120 And there's no doubt that Quantico is already doing that, and they're going to know everything that was on that phone, whether she's deleted it or not.
00:47:13.960 They've got the cloud.
00:47:15.020 They have a search warrant, a federal criminal search warrant, which is no unserious business.
00:47:20.820 i mean you you should be scared if the feds show up on your door and seize your phone
00:47:26.300 if you've done something unlawful because they're gonna find out um then she tried to claim that
00:47:34.900 her citizenship is a settled matter here in stop 13 watch this do you think it's true he doesn't
00:47:41.380 have anything to do with it oh absolutely not i mean he's got everything to do with it um
00:47:46.960 You know, this goes back to 2019 when he was screaming about the fact that, you know, I need to be sent back.
00:47:58.240 I need to be deported, which then he ordered his Department of Homeland Security to investigate me.
00:48:06.440 And in that investigation, they produced a one page memo saying, you know, her citizenship is solid.
00:48:16.960 there's nothing for us to look at. And at that time, they even looked at my father because he
00:48:22.740 was still alive. And so for them to, you know, say that, like, my status as a citizen in this
00:48:31.860 country was solid. And then to have that same department now saying there's something wrong
00:48:38.600 tells you how political this whole investigation is.
00:48:44.120 OK, that is a reference to the Washington Post report with which we dealt last Friday, which is as to say it's as thin as this paper, I mean, would be to understate the thinness of the Washington Post's attempted exoneration of Ilhan Omar on this.
00:49:01.500 They had one former Homeland Security official saying, I think her citizenship was in order and said that there was a memo that they never circulated by email.
00:49:14.300 They only discussed it in a meeting and he thinks the citizenship was in order.
00:49:19.780 That's it.
00:49:20.840 Notwithstanding the fact that fact under Joe Biden, the DOJ reopened an investigation into Ilhan Omar.
00:49:28.740 Why did they do that if everything was in order?
00:49:32.220 And now it's finally been reopened again.
00:49:35.280 Now we're going to get to the bottom of this one way or another.
00:49:38.240 But that Washington Post report was a joke.
00:49:41.400 Go back and look at Friday's show if you care to hear the details.
00:49:44.760 Here she was asked about whether she's feeling good about avoiding criminal charges here.
00:49:52.200 Listen to Sat 14 and the answer.
00:49:54.620 Are you confident that you're going to come out on the other side of this with your freedom intact?
00:50:04.360 I'm confident in my truth. I'm confident in the fact that I didn't do anything wrong.
00:50:09.680 I'm confident in the fact that, you know, if there were real people who are not politically motivated,
00:50:16.820 it like there were real people in 2019 and there were real people in 2024 when they looked at my
00:50:24.960 husband and my finances, that, yeah, there would be no indictment. There would be, you know,
00:50:33.600 no continuation of this. I'm confident in my truth. What a tell. What a ridiculous answer.
00:50:45.700 How better to communicate that you are not confident 0.99
00:50:48.820 and that you believe you have something to hide.
00:50:51.760 I believe, I'm confident in my truth.
00:50:55.740 This is, this was a disaster. 0.59
00:50:58.500 It was a disastrous interview for her.
00:51:01.240 All of this can and will be used against her.
00:51:03.880 And I do want to get to her answer
00:51:06.000 on the financial fraud that's been alleged.
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00:54:55.800 Continuing now on our Ilhan Omar update and joining me for this piece is Viva Fry. He's
00:55:08.940 Rumble creator and former litigator who's been following this case as well. Viva, great to see
00:55:14.340 you. So we'll get into this in a second and we'll talk about Chris Hayes. But here was the other
00:55:20.520 soundbite that I want to show from the exchange that where he he deigned to touch on the serious
00:55:26.520 questions about her financial disclosures and what sort of funny business happened when she
00:55:33.120 first listed a business that had almost zero value. The next year said it had between six
00:55:39.140 and thirty million dollars in value. And then when an investigation into that enormous wealth spike
00:55:45.060 was commenced, revised the numbers back down to zero value when it comes to her husband's
00:55:52.480 businesses, which do not, as far as we can tell, appear to have been legitimate corporate concerns
00:55:59.420 at any point, making wine or doing real investments from people, and have been the subject of multiple
00:56:05.300 litigations from investors. A reporter was here yesterday explaining to us that notwithstanding
00:56:10.480 the fact that these businesses made no money and apparently had no money, everybody who sues them
00:56:16.220 continues to get multi-million dollar payouts. Like they go away with big payouts, which is
00:56:22.600 another piece of the mystery around the Omar Minet, that's the husband's finances. He owns
00:56:28.980 reportedly one third of those businesses. Here was the entirety of Chris Hayes' treatment of
00:56:35.900 that piece of her scandal in SOT-12. They cited a financial disclosure for Congress that initially
00:56:43.200 said that your husband's firm was worth $30 million. That was before an accountant put
00:56:48.700 in the liabilities of that firm, which then brought the $30 million down to like
00:56:52.380 essentially net zero, $20,000, which did make me worry a little about your husband's business,
00:56:58.280 to be honest. He's not in them anymore. I was like, well, that seems like a big difference
00:57:03.540 It should be $30 million and $20,000.
00:57:05.780 There was a congressional oversight body that voted that there was no wrongdoing,
00:57:10.320 there was no evidence of wrongdoing.
00:57:12.160 What is your financial situation?
00:57:14.860 I mean, it's, you know, working class, I guess, like paycheck to paycheck still.
00:57:19.480 You know, we've got four kids.
00:57:22.540 And, you know, we live, I think, like a basic life.
00:57:26.700 I have a Toyota Camry that's from 2016.
00:57:30.500 It's my only car.
00:57:31.380 um i rent my dc place and my minneapolis place and so i mean i don't know that that sounds
00:57:39.200 like you know not majority of congress but there's some of us that are that don't come
00:57:44.820 from wealth and don't have wealth okay there's a lot to unpack first of all members of congress 0.60
00:57:50.020 make 175 000 a year that's not working class stop it right now it's ridiculous that is not 0.97
00:57:56.020 working class fucking retarded that's just that's not a fact secondly the joking nature of the whole 0.97
00:58:05.380 thing viva not no actual attempt to get to the bottom of what is absolutely under investigation 0.99
00:58:12.400 by janine pirro right now just yucking it up like ha ha ha it makes me a little worried about your
00:58:17.680 husband's business but not because it's potentially fraudulent because he didn't make money according 0.61
00:58:22.140 to her and chris hayes megan do you understand like i'm not an economic aficionado but if you
00:58:26.860 have uh you know if you offset to zero because of 30 million in liabilities that implies that you
00:58:32.680 have 30 million in assets what was the 30 million in assets that the company allegedly had and what
00:58:38.320 is the 30 million in liabilities to offset it to zero this is bearing in my good question it's it's
00:58:44.040 it's basic accounting chris hayes is is a joke of a journalist to just yuck it up and well i'd be
00:58:49.880 I'd be worried about it, too.
00:58:51.540 In fact, I'd be worried about the fact that, you know, her husband, Manette, it's sort of like a Manette field or a minefield.
00:58:57.060 I screwed that up, you know, that he got by people that he promised 300 percent return on their investment into his wine company.
00:59:03.960 And then when they get, you know, their original three hundred thousand dollar loan back, they sue for the 300 percent or 200 percent interest.
00:59:10.400 And it turns out that this wine company, which was like named the brand of the year in 2022, seemingly has no assets, allegedly selling empty barrels.
00:59:18.040 But, you know, just laugh it up, Chris Hayes. Yeah, 30 million in liabilities. What might those liabilities have been? And what were the assets if it wasn't all just a shell game of, you know, Bernie Madoff or Enron accounting type proportions? What the hell is going on in there? And instead, you know, move on. She drives a Camry. Boo hoo. She's the victim in this.
00:59:38.040 That is so absurd. 0.99
00:59:39.820 She drives a camera.
00:59:40.800 Like when I was a young lawyer and I was making good money, I wasn't actually even that young.
00:59:45.980 It was one of my like, I don't know, I was maybe a fifth year lawyer.
00:59:48.660 I was driving a Toyota, too, and it was great.
00:59:51.700 Love my Toyota.
00:59:52.440 This is a nice car.
00:59:53.600 Well, what is she talking?
00:59:54.760 It's like I'm driving an old jalopy and I'm making 30 grand a year. 0.74
00:59:58.920 She's making one hundred and seventy five thousand dollars a year. 0.79
01:00:02.280 Just stop. 1.00
01:00:03.200 And that's without the husband. 1.00
01:00:04.500 So like she is that is not working class. It's a lie. And, you know, he's not in them anymore. Why? What happened? Why did he? And we had our reporter yesterday was saying, what accountant would ever do a business valuation without including the liabilities? 1.00
01:00:24.840 again like that that's such a lie too megan none of it makes any sense when you understand that
01:00:31.700 interview was basically a pr damage control and they couldn't even do the proper pr damage control
01:00:38.140 everything about that interview was intended to make her look like the victim oh she's the victim
01:00:42.900 of the weaponization of government right now as though she wasn't the one celebrating the same
01:00:47.200 weaponization against roger stone back in the day no one is above the law when it came to donald 1.00
01:00:51.180 trump but she's the big bad you know the big baby victim in all of this uh and she's poor because
01:00:56.460 you know there's richer people in congress yeah there's a problem of wealth insider trading in 0.99
01:01:00.480 congress uh she's part of that problem and the fact that her husband's businesses can be you
01:01:05.640 know varying in in terms of value to the order of tens of millions of dollars just overnight
01:01:10.200 you know that is cause for concern i don't care that congressional in that whatever the hell that
01:01:15.240 was that they investigated and said no wrongdoing that's good they're not the authorities they're 0.83
01:01:19.200 not the feds any other citizen engages in that type of chicanery in terms of either overvaluing 0.65
01:01:23.980 or undervaluing and by the way not for nothing when they went after trump for overvaluing his
01:01:28.520 assets to get preferential interest rates from the bank other than the fact that that was between
01:01:32.080 two sophisticated private lenders and borrowers there's a good reason why her husband might have
01:01:36.760 had a vested interest to overvalue the assets of the company if he's trying to sell an impossible
01:01:40.920 rate of return to sucker investors who he takes the money from so there's actual nefarious reasons
01:01:46.000 for which this might have been done above and beyond, 0.77
01:01:48.260 you know, she's just, she's so cute.
01:01:49.640 She smiles, she laughs, she has no idea
01:01:51.080 if she's related to her husband.
01:01:52.300 It's wild what that interview has done.
01:01:55.500 Yeah, absolutely.
01:01:56.240 And what did you make of not to my knowledge?
01:01:59.720 Well, if you had, not you, Megan,
01:02:02.440 but others are saying, well,
01:02:03.380 she was just saying that to the kernel of truth question.
01:02:05.580 Well, if Chris Hayes could actually be a journalist
01:02:07.580 and let her answer the question he initially asked,
01:02:09.840 which was, are you related to him?
01:02:11.540 And she started saying not that I,
01:02:13.320 and then he interrupted her.
01:02:14.480 She was gonna say, not that I know of.
01:02:16.000 And, you know, plausible deniability because we don't know where her second husband came from.
01:02:21.100 He's allegedly a British citizen, but they can't find his, you know, country of birth.
01:02:24.960 If this is precisely also the problem in terms of illegal or, you know, unauthorized migration,
01:02:30.560 illegal immigration, people coming from countries where you don't have records to even verify who
01:02:35.280 they are. And so she could say, not to my knowledge, because he's got no birth certificate,
01:02:38.920 because he came from a part of the world where they have such poor records. We can't identify
01:02:41.940 if he's my brother.
01:02:43.480 And then, you know,
01:02:44.000 the engaging in relations
01:02:45.340 with her husband.
01:02:46.600 Nobody cares about 0.65
01:02:47.500 intimacy issues here.
01:02:48.600 The question is whether or not 0.95
01:02:49.480 she fraudulently married
01:02:50.640 someone who was her brother
01:02:51.480 to facilitate his immigration
01:02:52.880 to Canada.
01:02:53.780 And not to my knowledge,
01:02:55.180 well, that is an open invitation
01:02:57.000 for people to look into it
01:02:58.120 to, you know,
01:02:58.700 increase your knowledge, Ilhan.
01:03:00.720 Yeah, his immigration to America.
01:03:02.600 Yes, she's going to get 0.84
01:03:04.300 under oath at some point.
01:03:05.380 And unless she asserts the fifth
01:03:07.060 at every turn,
01:03:07.980 she'll be asked questions like,
01:03:09.140 how did you meet Mr. Elmy?
01:03:11.940 Who set you up? Under what circumstances was the meeting? How did you fall in love?
01:03:16.360 What was it about him? Did you consummate the marriage? How many times? You claimed two years
01:03:22.100 into the marriage that he had abandoned you, and yet there's all sorts of social media contact
01:03:26.740 between the two of you. Why is that? Why is he referring to your daughter as his niece?
01:03:31.880 Is Layla Elmi your sister in the UK? Why are you liking posts? Why are there pictures of you with
01:03:39.120 her two daughters, with you calling them your nieces. She's just cooked. If any one of the
01:03:47.360 pieces done by Powerline or Alpha News, which have been on this for the past 10 years, is true. I mean,
01:03:53.000 if any one piece of their social media exposés, and I should mention to the audience that those
01:03:58.580 social media posts, once these reports came out, like the Powerline report, they took down their
01:04:06.300 social media scrubbed these references and then reposted the social media having removed these
01:04:12.460 but they were already captured by these diligent journalists without whom we wouldn't have any of
01:04:16.720 this proof but all of it is going to be laid bare what i find amazing also is her just her
01:04:23.020 blanket like i don't know those people talking about what you know the people that were interviewed
01:04:27.700 this is i don't the behavior panel the body language guys they they need to look at this
01:04:32.740 Because when I'm looking at this, I notice a change in inflection in her voice when she says things that are true that she thinks makes her look like a victim and then says things which I don't think are true when it comes to, I don't know who those people are, as if to say, well, you know, disregard it all.
01:04:47.160 It's just some Somali blog and some far right, you know, conservative conspiracy theorists.
01:04:52.440 You know, this is not an issue of where there's smoke, there's fire or find me the person, I'll find you the crime. 0.94
01:04:57.260 There have been credible, legitimate questions asked and her answers are wholly unsatisfactory.
01:05:02.740 And the fact that you can't trace anything to confirm the origins of her second husband,
01:05:08.180 how has it not been investigated before?
01:05:11.080 Other than the fact that, you know, the Biden administration opened something,
01:05:13.820 but then they realize, oh, crap, we're opening something that's going to be very damning into an ally.
01:05:18.140 Let's shut it down before the next administration comes in. 0.95
01:05:21.340 As their borders were open and they were trying to make the sob story case for refugees in Ohio who were downtrodden
01:05:28.900 And we just needed to open our border to that was the last piece of information they needed to come out, that this alleged refugee was actually the daughter of somebody helping a warlord and had been going under an assumed name for years and might possibly be here entirely illegally.
01:05:42.900 Like that was the last piece of information they needed to come out. But it's interesting. You should mention the body language and the inflection, the up the up voice suggesting to you deception, because before she sat down with Chris Hayes yesterday, she posted a video of herself in a car asking for money.
01:05:58.060 She wants donations. And the New York Post actually got a body language expert to weigh in on this thing. Her name is Lillian Glass. And this woman is legit. She has apparently testified in state and federal courts based on her expertise on body language.
01:06:18.120 And she has serious questions about Ilhan Omar's deception in that piece, including this statement here.
01:06:27.740 And listen for listen for the inflection on the word me.
01:06:31.580 Sat 16 for trying to intimidate me and so many people right before the midterm elections.
01:06:40.500 and she suggests that she goes upward in her inflection on the word me as she says quote
01:06:47.380 trying to intimidate me as though she is asking a question this is significant and a signal of
01:06:53.200 deception she also pointed to omar's lick lip lip licking in the video as a sign that 0.98
01:06:59.500 her automatic nervous system is kicking in she pointed out that her nervous smile had lips 0.97
01:07:06.800 curved downward. The raising of her eyebrows reflect that she is questioning her own words.
01:07:12.640 And again, this is a woman who's been an expert witness in federal and state courts on behavioral
01:07:16.220 analysis. Her raised eyebrows also mean surprise as what has happened to her as she did not expect
01:07:22.480 this. So that is a professional's analysis just of her fundraising pitch, Viva. I can't wait to
01:07:27.780 hear what Lillian Glass has to say in response to the Chris Hayes interview. Well, it's funny.
01:07:33.320 i did actually comment on her i think they call it up talking like ending each sentence of them
01:07:37.500 look whether or not it indicates deception it's annoying as hell and indicates someone who's
01:07:43.260 insincere at best but you know i look or nerves well i mean if i were her i'd be nervous as well
01:07:48.600 because you know there are very serious issues that she's going to face right now and i appreciate
01:07:53.600 the argument that some people are going to say you can't hold a kid accountable for the sins of
01:07:57.520 the father she was 17 when her father came in and may or may not have lied about being a refugee or
01:08:02.540 the perpetrator of atrocities then the question is going to be if you want to put a statute of
01:08:07.380 limitations which doesn't exist on what she may or may not have lied about when she was 18 or 19
01:08:11.240 when she signed off that she was 17 so she could benefit from the naturalization status of her dad
01:08:15.460 the question is going to be what has she been up to recently because i said like if something's
01:08:19.460 happened once before it's happened again and by the something i mean corrupt criminal fraudulent 0.50
01:08:23.900 behavior did she try to go and intimidate witnesses recently about what happened 17 years ago what the 1.00
01:08:29.500 hell's going on with her husband's business i mean there are like it's not that uh she's a scoundrel 0.99
01:08:34.580 and i think she's a scoundrel there she must be one she's a proven scoundrel and proven scoundrel 1.00
01:08:39.440 who has relished in the weaponization of the federal government against her ideological and 0.99
01:08:44.040 political adversaries now crying a river because the exact same thing is being done to her and i
01:08:48.800 don't say fight fire with fire if she had been apologetic about it at the time or defending the
01:08:54.200 rights of peter navarro roger stone donald trump james o'keefe all the people who got pre-dawn
01:08:58.800 raids, then people could have some sympathy for her now. She relished it then. And she appears
01:09:03.860 prima facie to have done certain things that warrant an investigation. Nobody's going to shed
01:09:07.260 a tear for her now. Absolutely right. Notwithstanding this whitewash by MS now, Chris Hayes ought to be
01:09:14.720 ashamed of himself. Ashamed. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.
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