The Megyn Kelly Show - July 21, 2026


The JonBenét Conspiracies: The Nightmare After Christmas — Ep. 1 | MK Confidential


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In Colorado, it has all the makings of a classic murder mystery: a murder mystery, a ransom note, a dead body, strange twists and turns. For nearly 30 years, the murder of JonBenet Ramsey has haunted America. Not just because she was a beautiful six-year-old girl, not just because her body was found dead inside her own home the day after Christmas, but because almost every piece of this case seems to point in two directions at once: Was it an intruder, or was it the family?

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00:00:00.000 In Colorado, it has all the makings of a classic murder mystery, a ransom note, a dead body, strange twists and turns.
00:00:06.860 For nearly 30 years, the murder of JonBenet Ramsey has haunted America.
00:00:11.840 Not just because she was a beautiful six-year-old girl,
00:00:15.420 not just because she was found dead inside her own home the day after Christmas,
00:00:20.140 but because almost every piece of this case seems to point in two directions at once.
00:00:25.520 Was there an intruder? Or was the family in fob?
00:00:28.540 I did not kill my daughter, JonBenet.
00:00:32.120 What parent would ever strangle their own child?
00:00:35.760 Over the next five episodes, we will go back to the beginning of the JonBenet Ramsey case.
00:00:40.640 And we'll be back every day for the next eight weeks with many more cases.
00:00:45.360 This is true crime like you've never heard it before. 0.56
00:00:47.980 This is MK Confidential.
00:00:49.420 there have been suspects confessions theories explosive accusations and more tv documentaries
00:00:58.880 on john benet ramsey than we can count but underneath all of that noise is the story of
00:01:05.520 a six-year-old girl whose death became a national obsession to much of america john benet first
00:01:12.160 appeared not as a child, but as a pageant image. Big hair, makeup, sequined costumes, a practice
00:01:20.320 smile beneath the stage lights. Her mother Patsy had been a pageant queen herself, Miss West 0.85
00:01:26.400 Virginia, and JonBenet was following in her footsteps. After her death, the videos played
00:01:31.860 over and over on a loop. JonBenet waving from a parade float, JonBenet singing in a sparkling
00:01:39.400 outfit. Those images fascinated the country and in some ways distorted the case right from the start
00:01:46.200 because the pageant girl America saw on TV was only one version of this little girl. She was 0.75
00:01:53.160 also a kindergartner, a daughter, a little sister, a six-year-old kid who played with friends and
00:02:00.160 loved to perform. She just had this effervescent personality, just like Patsy. I mean, just
00:02:05.600 And ta-da, here I am, you know?
00:02:07.740 That Christmas, she asked her father for one more turn on her brand new bike.
00:02:12.560 She wanted to keep riding her bike.
00:02:14.780 And I said, well, we'll do it later.
00:02:18.360 And of course, there wasn't a later.
00:02:20.900 Within days of her killing, JonBenet was no longer simply a murdered child.
00:02:25.540 She'd become a symbol.
00:02:27.460 The child beauty queen. 0.89
00:02:29.160 The little girl in makeup.
00:02:30.480 The face on every supermarket tabloid and television screen in America.
00:02:35.600 And while the country argued over her parents and her pageants and her family's private life, the most important fact remained unchanged. Someone had killed her.
00:02:46.820 Someone killed this six-year-old child. We know that.
00:02:51.540 This is the story of a murdered child and the family, the police, the lawyers and community forever changed by what happened inside that house.
00:03:02.040 She did mean something in this world.
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00:04:14.080 9-8-9-8-9-8. It's the day after Christmas, December 26th, 1996. It is a clear, chilly
00:04:25.640 morning in Boulder, Colorado, less than four degrees outside. Candy canes line the winding
00:04:31.820 walkway to the Ramsey house at 755 15th street. It's a large brick Tudor style home in a well-to-do
00:04:39.660 neighborhood, elegantly decorated for Christmas. John Ramsey is up before dawn, puttering around.
00:04:47.160 He talked about that morning with CNN. We were planning to get up early and fly to Michigan
00:04:52.660 to meet my older kids for like a second Christmas. Our normal routine like that, if we're going to
00:05:00.880 go somewhere, is let the kids stay in bed. And then when we're ready to go, we get them up and
00:05:07.140 then we go. They might stay in their pajamas in the car. The Ramsey's private plane is prepped
00:05:13.220 for the trip to Michigan, loaded with presents. John's a tech entrepreneur and CEO worth $7
00:05:19.400 million. His company, Access Graphics, just cleared $1 billion in annual profits. John met
00:05:27.160 his wife Patsy in Atlanta back in 1979. They married a year later. He hesitated at first due
00:05:34.120 to their 13-year age gap, but he eventually asked the beauty queen out for a date, and the rest is
00:05:40.340 history. Patsy was a former pageant queen, crowned Miss West Virginia in 1977. Their six-year-old 0.79
00:05:47.680 daughter, John Benet, seems to be following in Patsy's footsteps and is already active in child
00:05:53.480 beauty pageants. John had been married before Patsy. He was divorced and brought three kids
00:05:59.460 into their marriage. When JonBenet was born, she had four siblings, two older sisters, Beth and
00:06:05.660 Melinda, and an older brother, John Andrew, all from Jon's first marriage. Patsy gave birth to
00:06:12.420 JonBenet's older brother, Burke, in 1987. Burke is nine years old at Christmastime, just one month
00:06:20.260 shy of the big double-digit birthday. That night, before bed, Burke asks his dad to help put together
00:06:27.000 one of his new toys. John sits with him and the two build it together. The Ramsey family had
00:06:33.100 already endured extraordinary loss. John's eldest daughter, Beth, died in a car accident a few years
00:06:39.720 earlier. I spoke with John about this. I got a phone call from my brother and he said, John,
00:06:45.980 Beth is gone. She's killed. And there's nothing I could do. I couldn't get her to the best doctors.
00:06:52.340 I couldn't rush to her side. It was over. More of that conversation as we move deeper
00:06:57.880 into this case. Shortly after Beth's accident, Patsy received a life-threatening diagnosis.
00:07:04.560 She spoke with Barbara Walters about it on ABC back in 2000. I'm a cancer survivor of stage four
00:07:10.300 cancer. John has lost a child in an automobile accident. That completely changes your outlook.
00:07:16.740 When you are standing on the brink of death with a terminal illness, your priorities suddenly line
00:07:22.080 up in a row, and you know exactly what the important things are in life. John elaborated
00:07:27.640 on that when we spoke. Patsy didn't say it, but I know she was trying to pack a lot of mother-daughter 0.68
00:07:34.020 time into what she maybe felt was a limited lifetime. Patsy underwent a grueling course 0.99
00:07:40.680 of experimental chemotherapy. At a time when few women successfully fought off ovarian cancer,
00:07:46.720 she beat the odds and went into remission. By Christmas of 1996, the Ramseys see themselves 0.75
00:07:55.380 as fortunate, healthy again, financially secure, surrounded by family, and preparing for another
00:08:01.560 Christmas celebration in Michigan. That is the life they believed that they were waking up to.
00:08:08.160 But downstairs, on a narrow back staircase near the kitchen, three sheets of lined white legal
00:08:14.840 paper are waiting. Patsy spoke with CNN a week after the murder. It was quite early in the
00:08:22.180 morning, and I'd gotten dressed and was on my way to the kitchen to make some coffee.
00:08:31.020 And we have a back staircase from the bedroom areas, and I always come down that staircase,
00:08:40.280 and I'm usually the first one down and the note was lying across the three pages across
00:08:51.840 the run of one of the stair treads and it was kind of dimly lit because it was very early in
00:09:02.580 morning and I started to read it and it was addressed to John. Here's how John told it to me.
00:09:11.500 You know, I was getting ready to get dressed and she screamed. I could tell from the scream it was
00:09:18.560 something was very, very wrong. And I ran down and she had this ransom note and
00:09:26.280 And, you know, it was just an unbelievable thing.
00:09:36.200 The ransom note is incredibly long, one of the longest in the history of kidnapping.
00:09:42.960 Mr. Ramsey, listen carefully with an exclamation point. 0.93
00:09:46.840 We are a group of individuals that represent a small foreign faction. 0.92
00:09:51.360 We respect your business. 0.99
00:09:53.200 Business is misspelled.
00:09:54.480 but not the country that it serves.
00:09:57.700 At this time, we have your daughter in our possession, also misspelled.
00:10:02.200 She is safe and unharmed, and if you want her to see 1997,
00:10:06.260 you must follow our instructions to the letter.
00:10:10.000 Patsy's reaction was one of sheer panic.
00:10:13.260 I can't remember exactly what the first few lines said,
00:10:17.780 but somewhere it said, we have your daughter, and it clicked, you know.
00:10:24.480 your daughter and I just bounded back up the steps and threw her door open
00:10:34.200 and she was not in her bed the note continues you will withdraw 118 thousand dollars from
00:10:43.380 your account 100,000 will be in $100 bills and the remaining 18,000 in $20 bills make sure that
00:10:51.560 you bring an adequate size attache to the bank. When you get home, you will put the money in a
00:10:57.460 brown paper bag. I will call you between 8 and 10 a.m. tomorrow to instruct you on delivery.
00:11:04.260 The delivery will be exhausting, so I advise you to be rested. If we monitor you getting the money
00:11:09.800 early, we might call you early to arrange an earlier delivery of the money, and hence an
00:11:14.980 earlier pickup of your daughter. Any deviation of my instructions will result in the immediate
00:11:20.920 execution of your daughter. You will also be denied her remains for proper burial. The two
00:11:27.520 gentlemen watching over your daughter do not particularly like you, so I advise you not to
00:11:32.540 provoke them. Speaking to anyone about your situation, such as police, FBI, etc., will result
00:11:39.340 in your daughter being beheaded. If we catch you talking to a stray dog, she dies. If you alert 1.00
00:11:46.460 bank authorities, she dies. If the money is in any way marked or tampered with, she dies. You will be
00:11:52.360 scanned for electronic devices, and if any are found, she dies. You can try to deceive us, but be
00:11:58.600 warned that we are familiar with law enforcement countermeasures and tactics. You stand a 99%
00:12:04.460 chance of killing your daughter if you try to outsmart us. Follow our instructions, and you 0.99
00:12:10.280 stand a 100% chance of getting her back. You and your family are under constant scrutiny, as well
00:12:16.360 as the authorities. That was the worst moment. It was suddenly realizing that someone had your
00:12:25.360 daughter, your child, and has taken her. And she was gone. And we didn't know where she was. And
00:12:31.900 it was dark. It was cold outside. Don't try to grow a brain, John. You are not the only fat cat
00:12:39.400 around. So don't think that killing will be difficult. Don't underestimate us, John. Use 0.98
00:12:45.980 that good Southern common sense of yours. It is up to you now, John. The note is signed
00:12:52.320 victory with an exclamation point and then the letters S-B-T-C. Just told Patsy to call
00:13:01.100 the police, call the police, call 9-1-1. At 5.52 a.m., Patsy calls 9-1-1 from the Ramsey
00:13:07.340 home landline John's heart sank you have this instinctive just
00:13:36.740 horrible feeling in her stomach that, you know, where's my child? After hanging up with 9-1-1,
00:13:41.780 Patsy calls two couples who are close to the family and asks them to come over.
00:13:47.180 I called our friends that we had had dinner with the night before.
00:13:53.520 And just kind of, you know, Jambonet is missing, you know, can you come over or help, you know?
00:13:59.380 And then I called another couple, close friend of ours, and they came right over.
00:14:07.480 Within minutes of the 911 call, the first Boulder PD officer pulls up in front of the Ramseys.
00:14:13.040 Officer Rick French shuts off his engine in the pre-dawn dark.
00:14:17.500 John and Patsy meet him at the front door and tell him what's happening.
00:14:21.160 They show him the ransom note, which now lays on the wooden floor outside the kitchen.
00:14:25.620 Their son, Burke, is still sleeping upstairs.
00:14:28.520 Officer French later describes Patsy as visibly shaken and frantic, while John seems calm and under control.
00:14:35.900 That morning with John Bonet, it wasn't over yet.
00:14:39.600 I could get her back if I kept my wits about me and focused on getting her back to whatever I could possibly do.
00:14:48.180 I didn't, I was focused on getting her back and I felt I could get her back.
00:14:55.380 Officer French conducts a quick search of the house,
00:14:57.780 looking for a possible exit route the kidnapper might have used.
00:15:01.540 In the basement, he comes to a door secured with a makeshift latch.
00:15:06.360 He stops in front of the door and studies it.
00:15:09.080 He stops, but does not open it.
00:15:11.740 He will later defend that decision by saying he did not think it was a way out of the home.
00:15:17.720 Police ask John and Patsy if John Benet could have just run away from home.
00:15:22.140 but John is adamant she's six years old it is dark and it's freezing cold outside no she did
00:15:29.320 not just run away John and Patsy are thinking we need to close the roads we need to deploy road
00:15:35.160 blocks close the airport but they assume the police know what they're doing the Ramsey's
00:15:40.400 friends arrive Fleet and Priscilla White John and Barbara Fernie the women take the nearly
00:15:46.720 hysterical Patsy into the sunroom victim advocates arrive at the house as well bringing
00:15:51.960 bagels and coffee. They all try to help the Ramseys, washing dishes, cleaning countertops, 0.97
00:15:58.740 anything to help pass the time while waiting for the kidnappers' promised phone call.
00:16:03.640 John talked about this moment with Barbara Walters back in 2000.
00:16:06.920 People were making toast in the kitchen. And yes, a kidnapping is a crime scene,
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00:17:29.500 Whitson pulls up to the Ramsey house. He parks and quickly reads the ransom note. He thinks about
00:17:35.420 the unusual nature of a child being held for ransom. The first he's heard of this in 22 years
00:17:42.200 on the force. He calls in the FBI. John takes Burke to a nearby friend's house. He phones a
00:17:48.320 banker friend who raises his credit limit to $118,000, the exact amount of the ransom,
00:17:55.320 and they wait. Hours go by, but no word from the kidnappers.
00:17:59.840 If you're with your child and you're at a department store or grocery store and you look
00:18:04.680 around and the child's gone, it's a terrible feeling. I think all parents have experienced
00:18:08.840 that and that was the feeling we had and you know it went on for until under one in the afternoon
00:18:17.400 from the road the ramses is kind of a deceiving house outside it doesn't look that big but inside
00:18:23.640 it's huge the house sprawls across more than 6 500 square feet with multiple floors additions
00:18:30.680 staircases narrow hallways and rooms that do not connect in any obvious way john and patsy had
00:18:37.560 converted the top floor into their master suite, JonBenet's bedroom is one level below near Burke's
00:18:43.780 room and almost across the house from her parents. A sound in the middle of the night would be
00:18:49.480 nearly impossible to hear. Soon more police arrive, including detectives and a forensics team.
00:18:56.520 They dust the house for fingerprints and search for other clues, but find no obvious signs of a
00:19:01.640 struggle and no clear crime scene. A phone call is made and police put a canine unit with a tracking
00:19:08.620 dog on standby. The dog is never called to the house. Sergeant Robert Whitson goes upstairs and
00:19:17.460 looks in JonBenet's bedroom. It appears largely undisturbed. Her clothes and toys are there.
00:19:24.480 The bed is not made and has clearly been slept in, but no JonBenet. He shuts her door, has officers
00:19:31.420 seal it with yellow and black crime scene tape and tells John Ramsey nobody goes in there. The
00:19:38.060 police do not cordon off the rest of the house. Below all the bedrooms lies the main living level,
00:19:45.080 the kitchen, dining areas, and the back spiral staircase the family uses every day.
00:19:50.260 And then there's the basement, a maze of storage rooms, utility spaces, and passages. Burke keeps
00:19:57.960 an electric train set in the basement in what's known as the train room. Nearby is a small windowless
00:20:03.920 storage room the family calls the wine cellar, even though no wine is kept there. This is the
00:20:09.300 room Officer French passed in his early morning search without opening the door. Officers ask
00:20:17.040 for handwriting samples from John and Patsy to compare to the ransom note. John provides two
00:20:22.940 notepads, one with his writing, one with Patsy's. The Boulder PD handwriting expert, Detective
00:20:29.100 Jeff Kithcart, finds something immediately interesting. Behind the obvious sample of
00:20:35.420 Patsy's handwriting, one page of the notepad contains a partial phrase, Mr. and Mrs., followed
00:20:43.460 by a black vertical line. To Kithcart, this line looks very much like the beginnings of an R and
00:20:51.300 like this page is the first draft of the ransom note. Suddenly, it seems the ransom note was
00:20:57.640 written inside the Ramsey home, using the family's very own scribble pad. The ransom note had promised
00:21:05.460 that the kidnapper or kidnappers would call between 8 and 10 a.m. 8 a.m. rolls around, 8.30.
00:21:13.620 John paces the floor. 9 a.m. comes and goes. The mood in the house becomes increasingly tense.
00:21:21.300 10 a.m. and still nothing.
00:21:24.820 Patsy sits with her friends in the sunroom.
00:21:28.020 At one point I said, well, what are we doing here?
00:21:31.420 You know, what's the plan of action?
00:21:33.900 You're so frustrated because you don't, I mean, you want the whole world to just stop right there so that you can go find this baby.
00:21:41.620 It's now early afternoon.
00:21:43.320 The forensics team and other officers have packed up and left.
00:21:47.220 Detective Linda Arndt finds herself the only law enforcement officer at the house
00:21:51.360 to control seven civilians, John and Patsy, four family friends,
00:21:55.440 and the Ramseys' pastor, the Reverend Roll Hoverstock of St. John's Episcopal Church.
00:22:02.980 These people have been in and all over the house.
00:22:06.100 You've got bagels everywhere, orange juice, coffee,
00:22:09.460 people preparing food and drinks throughout the day, cleaning up the place.
00:22:13.580 John paces around the living room, and Patsy sits, virtually motionless, in a chair.
00:22:19.460 Arndt calls for police backup to help control the scene, but no one arrives.
00:22:24.740 She expressed her frustration to ABC in 1999.
00:22:28.740 Both times I was told everybody's in a meeting, they got your message, and that was it.
00:22:37.740 Around 1 p.m., in an effort to keep John occupied, Arndt pulls him and one of his friends aside.
00:22:44.420 She tells them to conduct a top-to-bottom search of the house to see if anything is amiss.
00:22:50.160 We went to the basement, which to me was a logical place to start.
00:22:54.060 Third floor, you couldn't get into the third floor from outside.
00:22:58.080 So we went to the basement and went into what we call the train room, where the kids had a train set up.
00:23:04.480 and there was an open window and a suitcase propped up under the window
00:23:11.260 as if it were to be a step.
00:23:13.280 And I told my friend, I said, that suitcase should not be there.
00:23:16.840 That's way out of place.
00:23:18.260 We wouldn't have put it there.
00:23:19.760 The only other room in that basement was this, we called it a wine cellar,
00:23:25.480 but it was an old coal cellar, dark, one door going into it,
00:23:31.740 no entrances from the outside.
00:23:34.480 And I opened the door and, of course, immediately found JonBenet.
00:23:38.880 JonBenet's body lies in a pile, covered with a white blanket.
00:23:43.360 There's duct tape over her mouth.
00:23:45.420 I knew instantly, instantly what I'd found.
00:23:48.100 I'd found my daughter.
00:23:49.380 Jon pulls the tape off and throws it aside.
00:23:52.220 His friend bolts up the stairs yelling for someone to call 911.
00:23:56.140 Jon tries to loosen the bindings on JonBenet's wrists, but they're tied too tightly.
00:24:01.000 So I just picked her up and carried her screaming.
00:24:06.200 Actually, I was screaming to upstairs to take her to help.
00:24:13.080 Detective Arndt hears John scream from the basement and runs to meet him at the top of the stairs.
00:24:18.400 She quickly tells him to put JonBenet's body down.
00:24:21.240 Then she moves it next to the Christmas tree.
00:24:24.420 And he asked if she was dead.
00:24:26.820 And I said, yes, she's dead.
00:24:29.400 John stays close to JonBenet, repeating the phrase,
00:24:32.600 my little angel, my little angel.
00:24:35.680 The Ramsey's pastor sees JonBenet's body and begins praying aloud.
00:24:40.660 Patsy heard Jon scream from the basement and her friends held her back.
00:24:44.980 And I said, what? You know, what is it?
00:24:48.300 And Barbara, my friend, just grabbed me and said, no, just stay.
00:24:56.580 Just stay right here.
00:24:57.860 And I kept saying, what, what, what is it, what is it?
00:25:01.340 And, um, um, and I think, um, we walked into the living room, and she was there, and John said, she's, she's gone.
00:25:27.540 Patsy throws her body over JonBenet's.
00:25:30.800 I remember walking in and seeing her lying there in front of the Christmas tree.
00:25:37.980 I knelt down over her and just laid my body on her body and my cheek against her cheek.
00:25:46.620 And it was cold.
00:25:49.800 And Father Ra was there.
00:25:52.360 and um he started saying the last rites i believe and i just kept saying no no you know ask god
00:26:06.860 ask god to raise her detective arndt asks john to call 9-1-1 and then calls it herself
00:26:18.740 She declares a code black.
00:26:21.400 In other words, a murder.
00:26:23.320 The ambulance arrives about 15 minutes later.
00:26:26.860 Law enforcement and the forensics team rush back to the Ramsey house,
00:26:30.940 though moving the body twice presents a unique challenge for evidence collection.
00:26:36.600 Officers hurry to clear the scene so John and Patsy relocate to a friend's house in South Boulder.
00:26:42.020 We rushered out of the house pretty quickly, and we never went back in that home.
00:26:49.320 That was the last time we were in that home.
00:26:52.100 Past Santa Claus in his sleigh and a double row of candy canes,
00:26:56.480 deputy coroners brought the body of six-year-old JonBenet Ramsey from her upscale home.
00:27:01.680 Someone inside this house had made a 911 call saying that little JonBenet had been kidnapped.
00:27:07.120 Well, when police got here, they went inside the house,
00:27:09.640 And a short time later, they found the little girl's body.
00:27:12.880 The Boulder County coroner arrives at the Ramsey home around 8 p.m. on December 26th.
00:27:18.260 His examination is short, lasting about 10 minutes.
00:27:21.960 But several things become clear right away.
00:27:25.120 According to the autopsy, whoever killed JonBenet took white olefin cord and tied her wrists together.
00:27:33.380 The person used the same cord to make what's commonly known as a garrote or a ligature.
00:27:39.640 to strangle JonBenet. A garrote is a brutally simple mechanism. It uses a cord around the neck
00:27:45.800 and some kind of handle to twist that cord tighter. The more it's twisted, the more pressure
00:27:51.660 it puts on the neck, cutting off air and blood flow. It's similar to a tourniquet, but with a
00:27:57.120 deadly purpose. Police say the knot on this garrote was tied by someone who understood how a garrote
00:28:03.420 is made, and the fact that her hair and her gold cross necklace are tangled in it suggests that
00:28:10.680 JonBenet was alive when it happened. JonBenet also has very distinct red marks below her throat
00:28:18.200 that match the shape of her own fingers. It looks like she tried to claw on the cord wrapped around
00:28:24.620 her neck as it choked the very life out of her. The cord is wrapped around JonBenet's neck so
00:28:31.260 tightly that it has caught a deep furrow into the skin. It was so deeply embedded in her skin
00:28:37.280 that I didn't see it. The cord is knotted and attached to a broken stick at the back of Jon
00:28:43.520 Benet's neck. That broken stick was part of a paintbrush handle from Patsy's art supplies
00:28:49.460 stored in the basement near the room where Jon Benet's body was found. The coroner performs
00:28:55.820 JonBenet's full autopsy the following morning at 8.15 a.m. He lists two causes of death,
00:29:02.820 either strangulation or a blow to the head. He can't determine which happened first,
00:29:07.900 but either would have killed her. There are also microscopic fibers of the paintbrush handle
00:29:18.300 from the garrote found in JonBenet's vagina, as well as signs of injury to the interior tissue.
00:29:25.400 This leads investigators to believe JonBenet was sexually assaulted with the paintbrush handle.
00:29:31.300 The tiny blood vessels inside JonBenet's eyelids had burst, and investigators find surprisingly
00:29:37.680 little bleeding from the massive wound to her head. There's an eight-inch crack in her skull,
00:29:43.400 attributed to blunt force trauma. Putting those two facts together, some experts believe
00:29:48.200 the strangulation happened first, meaning that by the time she was struck in the head,
00:29:53.020 her heart may have already stopped or was barely pumping. Boulder police find two items that they
00:29:59.800 think might be involved in the head injury, a baseball bat found outside the Ramsey's house
00:30:05.260 and a maglite flashlight found in the kitchen. But there is no physical evidence on either one,
00:30:11.940 no useful fingerprints, no DNA, nothing. It's two weeks after the murder and Boulder chief of
00:30:19.240 police Tom Kobe holds a town hall to answer reporters' questions about the ongoing investigation.
00:30:25.800 JonBenet's death was the first murder reported in Boulder for 1996, and it happened with just
00:30:31.420 five days left in the year. That lack of homicide experience matters, as there have been major
00:30:37.900 mistakes at the crime scene, mistakes that cannot be undone. Did police search the house after the
00:30:44.780 911 call but before the body was found. They did a preliminary search of the house and remember
00:30:52.580 this is a very big house. Did they look in the room where John Ramsey said the girl's body was
00:30:58.880 or did they not? It doesn't appear that they got down. That room was down in a part of the basement
00:31:06.820 that doesn't appear that they got to. But one person has zero doubt in her mind about who the
00:31:13.640 killer is, Boulder Detective Linda Arndt. And John leaned down opposite me, and his face was
00:31:24.520 just inches from mine. And we had a nonverbal exchange that I will never forget.
00:31:34.920 As we looked at each other, I remember, and I wore a shoulder holster,
00:31:39.660 tucking my gun right next to me
00:31:44.240 and consciously counting I've got 18 bullets
00:31:47.520 because I didn't know if we'd all be alive
00:31:50.000 when people showed up.
00:31:51.620 I knew what happened.
00:31:53.280 You were afraid because you thought
00:31:54.560 the killer was still in the house.
00:31:59.200 I knew it.
00:32:01.600 Absolutely?
00:32:02.740 Absolutely.
00:32:04.480 And she's not the only one.
00:32:07.360 Join me tomorrow for the next chapter in our story
00:32:09.640 on MK Confidential.