The Megyn Kelly Show - August 07, 2026


The Missing Intern & The Congressman: The Man in the Park — Ep. 4 | MK Confidential


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00:01:00.000 On the evening of May 14th, 2001, Hallie Schilling ties back her blonde hair, grabs her yellow Walkman, and drives down to Rock Creek Park for a run.
00:01:10.520 She is 30, a journalist, athletic, 5'10", and she has been running for nearly 20 years. 0.87
00:01:18.360 She is not a woman who rattles easily.
00:01:21.280 In the parking lot near the old Pierce Mill, she notices a young Hispanic man sitting on a curb watching her.
00:01:29.380 He makes her uncomfortable, but men stare at Hallie, she thinks, and she starts on her jog anyway.
00:01:37.040 She heads up an empty trail that vanishes into the trees.
00:01:40.740 Near the rise above the creek, the sun disappears behind the clouds.
00:01:44.460 It feels ominous, enough so that she picks up a stick off the ground for protection,
00:01:49.960 but it's rotten and she tosses it back. 0.95
00:01:53.620 Then she realizes the Hispanic man is jogging behind her, closing fast. 0.95
00:01:59.380 She keeps looking back over her shoulder, and he is always there. 0.96
00:02:03.100 She speeds up, he speeds up.
00:02:05.320 She slows down, he's still there.
00:02:08.320 Then he sprints and closes the distance, grabbing her,
00:02:11.700 and throws her off the path and down into the trees.
00:02:14.820 He has a knife.
00:02:16.020 His arms lock around her neck, and something in Hallie flips like a switch.
00:02:22.660 two things hit her mind at once. The first is that the traffic on Beach Drive across the creek
00:02:28.300 is loud enough to bury any sound she makes. No one will hear her scream. The second is a decision.
00:02:36.740 There is no way she's going to let this man have her without a fight. A huge fight. She goes
00:02:43.440 berserk. She screams, she twists, and she sees the flash of the knife. He tries to shush her,
00:02:50.140 and that more than the knife blade is what enrages her. Years before Hallie Schilling took a
00:02:56.640 self-defense class, the thing she has never forgotten is the instructor's helper, a man in
00:03:02.760 a padded rubber suit who stood there in body armor at the end of each session and let the students
00:03:09.000 hit him so they would know what it feels like to strike another human being. On the ground in Rock
00:03:14.980 Creek Park, that feeling comes back to Hallie. She goes for his eyes, misses, then works a hand
00:03:22.000 into his mouth and digs her fingernails into the soft flesh under his tongue. He bites down on her 0.99
00:03:27.560 fingers hard, but she is already tearing loose when to her own shock he turns and runs off the
00:03:35.340 way he came. Hallie is up and she is running up the slope. She makes her way to the park police
00:03:42.160 station with help from two other runners she meets minutes after she breaks loose. She walks 0.52
00:03:47.880 into the station house wild-haired, and the officers move at once. A wall of police rushes
00:03:54.480 out onto the trail after the man with the knife. It is fast and professional. The one thing that
00:04:00.560 needles her, Hallie will write later, is that the officer taking her statement keeps calling her
00:04:06.220 over the radio, the victim. She fought, she thinks, and she is alive. Two weeks earlier in this same
00:04:15.520 park, Chandra Levy disappeared. She would be found on a wooded slope about half a mile from the trail
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00:05:41.720 use the link in the description the first female jogger um the one who was attacked about 700
00:05:48.200 yards from where levy's body was found said she saw guandique in the pierce mill parking lodge
00:05:54.340 And if you look at where Chandra Levy lived, the logical route would have taken her right through the Pierce Mill parking lot.
00:06:00.920 For a year, the search for Chandra Levy points at a congressman.
00:06:05.920 But while the whole country watches Gary Condit, something else is happening on the trails of Rock Creek Park.
00:06:12.300 That spring, in a sudden burst, a man is attacking women in the park, one after another.
00:06:18.260 Yet somehow, no one connects any of it to Chandra.
00:06:22.500 One of the women he grabs will tell her story in public.
00:06:26.360 Holly Schilling, the runner at the start of the episode, is a journalist.
00:06:30.960 And in the spring of 2002, she publishes a first-person account of her attack in the Washington Post,
00:06:38.220 describing how that self-defense class saved her life on a Rock Creek Park trail.
00:06:44.740 Polly does not name the man who came at her with a knife because at the time,
00:06:49.040 no one has connected him to anything larger.
00:06:52.520 What she writes is that these days, she sticks to a gym treadmill instead of the park trails,
00:06:58.100 but takes comfort in one thing.
00:07:00.140 The man who attacked her is off the streets.
00:07:03.380 He was caught weeks later after he went after another woman, Christy Weigand,
00:07:08.960 near the same stretch of trail, and the park police tied the two attacks.
00:07:13.920 together. On May 22nd, 2002, five weeks after Hallie's essay runs in the post, a man walking
00:07:22.280 his dog finds a human skull in Rock Creek Park, half a mile from where Hallie was attacked.
00:07:28.720 The connection is not lost on her. She reads the coverage and understands,
00:07:33.900 that could have been me. It is not lost on reporters either. Guandique's name has surfaced
00:07:40.140 in Roll Call, the newspaper that covers Capitol Hill. Reporters pull the court file, find the
00:07:46.380 names of the women he attacked, and dig through databases until they turn up Hallie's article.
00:07:52.220 They are on her doorstep within days. The detectives working Chandra Levy's murder
00:07:57.720 are not. For the seven years after reporting her attack from 2001 to 2008, Hallie Schilling
00:08:05.680 waits for a call from the D.C. police, a call that does not come, and cannot understand why
00:08:12.480 the detectives on the most notorious murder in the city seem so uninterested in a woman who
00:08:18.220 survived an attack in the same park two weeks after Chandra vanished. It is not until December
00:08:25.060 2008, after the Washington Post's 13-part series Who Killed Chandra Levy, forces the case back
00:08:33.300 open that the Levy detectives come to Hallie Schilling. They bring her into Rock Creek Park
00:08:39.660 and walk with her up the trail to the spot where the man attacked her, and she takes them through
00:08:44.280 it. Her father stands a few feet away, silent. As he watches, he finds himself shaking with anger,
00:08:52.240 understanding for the first time how close he came to losing his daughter. The next day,
00:08:58.140 investigators call Hallie before a grand jury, weighing whether to charge Guandique with Chandra
00:09:03.720 Levy's murder. Hallie's own attack had been prosecuted years earlier. Now prosecutors want
00:09:09.700 the jury to hear what Guandique did to another woman on those same trails. More than seven years
00:09:16.420 after Hallie escaped him, D.C. detectives and the prosecutor apologize for never interviewing her
00:09:23.380 as part of the Levy investigation.
00:09:26.320 One investigator shakes his head
00:09:27.740 and says he cannot believe Gary Condit was ever a suspect.
00:09:32.720 That summer of 2002, after Chandra's remains are found,
00:09:36.700 an FBI agent named Brad Garrett
00:09:38.860 and a D.C. detective named Jim Trainham
00:09:41.620 bring a geographic profiler into the case.
00:09:44.940 A man named Kim Rosmo,
00:09:47.320 whose studies where violent crimes happen
00:09:49.220 and what the pattern of their locations
00:09:51.340 can tell you about the perpetrator.
00:09:54.080 Kim's really good at looking at a crime scene and helping you understand
00:09:58.200 what is it about the scene that kind of contributed to the crime occurring at that location.
00:10:04.420 Rossmo lays out a map of Rock Creek Park and marks the attacks on lone women from the spring of 2001.
00:10:11.880 For me, one of the most important early questions was how common are these attacks in Rock Creek Park?
00:10:17.640 We took a look at the data from the park's police about their crimes in an 18-month period living up to there,
00:10:25.000 and it was very clear that crimes of this nature were just so rare.
00:10:30.400 One stretch of the park lights up, an isolated run of trail near the Pierce Mill.
00:10:36.420 The attacks cluster there over a matter of weeks.
00:10:40.460 Then they stop all at once.
00:10:42.760 They stop the week a single man is arrested on those trails and taken to jail.
00:10:49.660 That man is already in prison.
00:10:51.740 He has been since the summer of 2001, serving 10 years for attacking Hallie Schilling and
00:10:57.460 Christy Wigand in Rock Creek Park, a man at whom no one working the Levy case has ever
00:11:03.980 seriously looked.
00:11:05.560 His name is Ingmar Gwondike.
00:11:08.600 Rossmo says a violent offender is not random.
00:11:11.620 He tends to strike where he feels safe, on ground he knows.
00:11:15.620 We break a crime down to its constituent parts.
00:11:18.620 So for murder, we're going to have an encounter,
00:11:20.620 the place where the offender first sees the victim.
00:11:23.620 Then we're going to have the point where he first attacks her.
00:11:25.620 Then we have the actual murder scene itself.
00:11:27.620 Then finally, we have where the body gets disposed of.
00:11:30.620 So Rossmo takes a hard look at Rock Creek Park.
00:11:33.620 Years later, he will lay out what he found in a documentary
00:11:36.620 on Chandra Levy for investigation discovery.
00:11:41.580 Rosmo goes to the attack scenes, three of them,
00:11:44.840 Chandra's and the two women who lived.
00:11:47.700 Each is the same kind of place,
00:11:49.740 a secluded spot near a ravine or a steep bank,
00:11:53.620 hidden from the trail behind dense brush.
00:11:56.840 Each of the women had been carrying a Walkman. 1.00
00:11:59.960 The Hispanic man demanded nothing and took nothing. 1.00
00:12:03.660 No money, no jewelry.
00:12:05.560 To Rosmo, these are not robberies.
00:12:08.540 They are attempted sexual assaults.
00:12:10.620 and he comes to believe the same thing was done to Shondra Levy.
00:12:14.220 Look at how remote this is. It's quiet. There aren't any other witnesses.
00:12:18.020 So this is an ideal spot for a predator to attack somebody.
00:12:21.940 When Rossmo lays the attacks out by date,
00:12:24.480 they fall into a tight cluster in the spring of 2001
00:12:28.440 on that one isolated stretch of trail near the Pierce Mill.
00:12:33.220 Holly Schilling attacked in mid-May, two weeks after that.
00:12:36.600 A man exposing himself to a massage therapist on the same ground that same month.
00:12:43.600 Christy Weigand pulled into a ravine on the 1st of July.
00:12:47.600 And then nothing.
00:12:49.600 The attacks end completely the week the man is caught.
00:12:53.600 We took a look at the location where Shana's body was found.
00:12:58.600 And then we looked at the locations where the attacks on the two female joggers had occurred.
00:13:03.600 There's no one else around.
00:13:05.600 Attacks like that in the park are really rare.
00:13:07.760 And when you've got three of them in a very short time period,
00:13:10.580 that calls for them to be looked at as being connected crimes.
00:13:15.300 We know that he lived just to the east of Rock Creek Park.
00:13:19.540 And there were no similar attacks after the arrest of him.
00:13:24.540 It made Guandiki stand out like a neon sign.
00:13:27.500 He had to be considered a viable suspect and needed to be explored further.
00:13:32.200 There is one more thing the map shows.
00:13:34.240 The place where the man attacked Hallie Schilling is about half a mile from the ravine where Chandra's remains are found.
00:13:41.320 Seven weeks after those remains turn up, in July of 2002,
00:13:46.120 Levy detectives finally walked the ground where Hallie fought free.
00:13:50.460 And they put it in their investigative report in plain words,
00:13:53.820 quote,
00:13:54.660 So what do we know about the man already in prison?
00:14:02.660 Guandique came to the United States illegally from El Salvador.
00:14:07.440 He made his way through Mexico.
00:14:09.740 He swam across the Rio Grande into Texas.
00:14:12.460 He made his way to Houston.
00:14:14.320 And then he made his way to Washington, D.C.
00:14:18.280 He's got a family in El Salvador that's deeply impoverished.
00:14:22.800 He was born in 1981 in the early years of El Salvador's civil war,
00:14:27.360 which takes his father before he's born.
00:14:30.520 When Guandique's mother is three months pregnant, his father is killed by a government death squad.
00:14:35.920 The boy grows up in a house with a dirt floor.
00:14:38.940 His mother remarries, and Guandique will later say his stepfather and mother beat him.
00:14:44.940 He struggles in school and drops out in the seventh grade.
00:14:48.240 At 14, he is working in the fields.
00:14:50.880 Now, in Washington, D.C., Guandique is 19 and takes whatever work a man without papers can find
00:14:57.340 and for a while holds it together, but not for long.
00:15:02.180 He drinks heavily.
00:15:03.860 He smokes marijuana and snorts cocaine when he can get it.
00:15:07.260 He drifts from job to job.
00:15:09.880 By the time the D.C. detectives come looking for him,
00:15:12.740 Guandique has been in and out of the prison system for years,
00:15:15.960 moving from one facility to the next.
00:15:18.480 In one prison, he mails obscene drawings to a woman he's never met.
00:15:23.840 In another, he exposes himself to the female guards.
00:15:27.340 Somewhere along the way, he joins MS-13, the violent Salvadoran gang.
00:15:32.920 This is the man to whom Rosmo's map keeps pointing back.
00:15:38.300 Then there is the 1st of May, 2001.
00:15:41.480 On the day Chandra Levy vanishes, Guandique does not show up for work.
00:15:46.420 Days later, his landlady sees him with a fat lip, a bloody eye, scratches at his throat.
00:15:52.820 She asks him what happened.
00:15:54.500 He tells her he got in a fight with his girlfriend.
00:15:57.340 that she hit him. The landlady doesn't believe him because she knows they broke up and his
00:16:03.600 girlfriend is small. Whoever did this fought back hard. 17 months later, in October of 2002,
00:16:12.840 a pair of snipers begins shooting people out the back of a car across the Washington, D.C. area.
00:16:19.360 Spoiler alert, we are covering this story on MK Confidential soon. The FBI pulls Brad Garrett
00:16:25.340 off the Levy case to help hunt the D.C. snipers. The press goes to. The Levy case recedes once
00:16:34.120 again. Guandique sits in prison for the two park attacks. No one is building a murder case against
00:16:40.900 him. Law enforcement is not focused on Chandra Levy, and her case goes cold again. Five years
00:16:49.560 later, the Chandra Levy case is revived thanks to a new police chief and a newspaper. Charles Ramsey
00:16:57.740 is gone, replaced by Kathy Lanier. In 2007, soon after she takes over, Lanier meets Susan Levy at
00:17:06.480 police headquarters. When Susan holds out her hand, Lanier hugs her instead and comes out of the
00:17:12.940 meeting vowing to solve the Chandra case. One of the two original detectives has retired.
00:17:20.180 Lanier removes the other, Ralph Durant, and hands the case to two veterans, Todd Williams and Anthony
00:17:26.760 Brigidini. The new detectives pull Chandra's clothing and Guandique's as well out of the
00:17:32.560 evidence lockers and send both for the DNA testing no one had run in 2001. And they start monitoring
00:17:40.260 Guandique's mail and phone calls from prison. When the results come back, the DNA does not
00:17:46.860 establish a tie between Guandique and Chandra. The testing that was supposed to break the case
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00:19:36.040 In the summer of 2008,
00:19:38.540 the Washington Post runs a 13-part investigation.
00:19:42.640 Who killed Chandra Levy?
00:19:45.420 By Sari Horwitz, Scott Higgum, and Sylvia Moreno.
00:19:49.420 Not enough attention was being paid to a suspect
00:19:52.180 who was hiding in plain sight.
00:19:54.920 The series clears Gary Condit
00:19:56.700 and names Guandique as the most likely killer,
00:19:59.640 though it offers little in the way of hard evidence. It puts the reinvestigation and
00:20:04.640 everything the police had missed on the front page for 13 straight days. A few days before
00:20:11.040 it starts, Horwitz asks Police Chief Lanier what she hopes it will do. Stir things up,
00:20:17.120 Lanier says. Sometimes people do come forward. It was the first time anyone from the outside
00:20:23.760 had really exposed what was going on with this case and some of the mistakes that led
00:20:28.800 the case to go cold. The reinvestigation also surfaces something buried since 2001. When the
00:20:35.900 park police first arrested Guandique, he told an officer he had seen Chandra Levy in Rock Creek
00:20:42.880 Park and that he found her pretty. The officer remembered it, but for seven years that information
00:20:49.320 never made it into any report. Through all of it, one thing never changes. Guandique does not leave
00:20:56.660 prison. From his arrest in the summer of 2001, through the cold years and the reinvestigation,
00:21:02.680 he stays locked up for the two park attacks. When the detectives finally go looking for their man,
00:21:09.880 they already have him in a cell in California. In September of 2008, two months after the series
00:21:17.000 of articles, a team of D.C. detectives flies to the federal prison at Victorville in the California
00:21:22.880 desert, where Guandique is finishing his sentence for those park attacks. The detectives have done
00:21:29.040 their homework. They have read the park police reports from 2001, and they know how an officer
00:21:34.880 named Joe Green once talked Guandique into admitting the two park attacks by offering him
00:21:41.280 a less despicable version of the story. They sit Guandique down. They ask him for a DNA sample,
00:21:48.280 and then they run a bluff. They tell him they already have his DNA on evidence from the Chandra
00:21:54.360 Levy case, and they wait. Guandique doesn't flinch. If they have his DNA, he tells them,
00:22:01.740 they should charge him with murder. They press him. Why would his DNA be on Chandra Levy's things?
00:22:08.060 He gives them a line the detectives will not forget, one that is not a confession
00:22:12.780 and not quite a denial either. So what if I touched her? It is the closest thing to an
00:22:20.160 admission anyone will ever get from Guandique. Not, I never met her. Not, I never touched her.
00:22:27.340 Not, who's Chandra Levy? Instead, so what if I did? The detectives write it down word for word.
00:22:35.580 It's nowhere near enough to charge a man with murder, but it is the first time Guandique has
00:22:40.080 placed himself anywhere near Chandra Levy, and he's done it in his own words. The detectives
00:22:47.280 turn to the fat lip and the scratches from May 1st, 2001, seven years earlier. He tells them
00:22:54.100 two men robbed him. They remind him he had told his landlady it was his girlfriend.
00:23:00.440 Guandique splits the difference. The lip from the robbery, the scratches from the girlfriend.
00:23:05.580 While the detectives are in the room with him, prison officials are searching his cell.
00:23:12.040 Tucked among his things, kept by his bed, they find a photograph of Chandra clipped from a magazine.
00:23:20.180 It is an odd thing for someone with allegedly no connection to her to have bedside seven years after she vanished from a city 2,000 miles away.
00:23:28.920 They saw a photo of Chandra Levy in his cell right by his bed, which was very odd.
00:23:35.580 And as they were talking to Guandique, they saw something else that really struck them as odd.
00:23:40.540 They saw a tattoo of a woman on his body.
00:23:42.980 And as they looked at this tattoo, they believed that it resembled Chandra Levy.
00:23:48.740 There is one more thing they learn about the man at Victorville.
00:23:52.020 In early 2009, as the murder case against him is coming together,
00:23:56.900 an inmate tips off prison officials that Guandique is planning to break out.
00:24:02.640 On February 26, guards pull him from his cell and search it.
00:24:07.500 They find the makings of a weapon and an escape kit.
00:24:10.860 Loose razor blades, a AA battery, a filed-down sliver of toenail clipper, and a homemade knife.
00:24:18.400 Two of the blades lashed together with strips of plastic.
00:24:21.480 Guandique will not be going anywhere.
00:24:24.240 So the detectives move on to the one thing that could actually make a case.
00:24:28.740 A witness.
00:24:30.160 That witness is a man named Armando Morales, and you'll be hearing quite a bit about him.
00:24:37.500 Armando Morales is a Fresno, California native, a lifetime criminal with a long record of violent crimes, guns, drugs, and so on.
00:24:47.200 He was a cellmate of Ingmar Guandique in Kentucky in 2006.
00:24:54.760 Morales comes forward in 2009 while the reopened Levy case is searching for anyone who can tie
00:25:00.780 Guandique to the killing. He's been in federal prison since the 1990s, serving a long sentence
00:25:07.040 on drug charges, a lifelong criminal with a violent record, and Morales is not the kind of
00:25:12.580 man juries usually trust. What makes prosecutors listen is that Morales asks for nothing. He is
00:25:19.920 also not the first inmate to say Guandique has talked. Over the years, several jailhouse witnesses
00:25:25.980 did, and their stories did not always match. Guandique's defense will seize on this fact later.
00:25:32.600 But Morales is the witness around whom the prosecution decides to build its case.
00:25:37.440 Guandique and Morales belong to allied gangs, and for six weeks in a Kentucky cell, they talked.
00:25:44.040 Armando Morales and Imar Guandique belonged to a similar gang affiliation.
00:25:49.940 And as a result, they considered themselves brothers.
00:25:52.720 They were honest with each other.
00:25:53.960 They looked out for each other in prison.
00:25:56.140 They talked about everything together.
00:25:58.240 According to Armando Morales, one of the things they talked about was the whole Sean Jalivi case.
00:26:04.020 According to Morales, Guandique was desperate to correct one thing in particular.
00:26:09.140 In prison, a man marked as a rapist is a target. 0.50
00:26:12.140 and Guandique knew the word was he had raped and killed the intern. 0.53
00:26:17.560 Morales said Guandique wanted Morales to understand
00:26:20.440 that he had only done one of those two things, the killing.
00:26:25.100 Morales' account carries one detail in particular on which prosecutors seize.
00:26:30.680 He says Guandique confessed that he grabbed Chandra from behind on the trail,
00:26:35.880 dragged her into the bushes, and took her fanny pack before he ran.
00:26:40.240 To prosecutor Amanda Haynes, that fanny pack is critical.
00:26:44.420 She argues it is exactly the kind of inside detail only the killer could know,
00:26:49.380 and that Morales could only have gotten it from the man who committed the crime.
00:26:54.020 However, even Haynes does not actually know whether Chandra was carrying a fanny pack.
00:27:00.040 None has ever recovered, not at the scene, not anywhere.
00:27:03.060 nothing in the physical evidence and no witness other than Morales ever establishes that Chandra
00:27:09.060 was carrying one that day. The single source for the detail the prosecution sees as so damning
00:27:15.480 is Morales. There is no corroboration that there ever was a fanny pack, never mind that Guandique
00:27:22.140 took it. On the stand, he tells the jury he wants nothing for his testimony, that he is here only
00:27:28.320 to give a grieving family its answer, and that he has never been an informant before in his life.
00:27:35.000 Hold on to that last part. So what about Gary Condit? For a year, the congressman was the story.
00:27:42.220 By the time the Guandique case reaches trial, investigators no longer treat Gary Condit as a
00:27:47.960 suspect in Chandra's murder. Police had checked his account of his whereabouts on May 1st,
00:27:53.760 And it held. No physical evidence ever tied him to her death. The DNA in Chandra's underwear
00:28:00.180 supported what Condit had spent the summer of 2001 denying that he and Chandra had been
00:28:06.020 sexually involved, but nothing beyond that. On March 3rd, 2009, Police Chief Lanier stands at
00:28:13.540 a lectern at police headquarters, flanked by the D.C. mayor, the U.S. attorney, and the three
00:28:19.480 detectives who built the case. She announces that Ingmar Guandique will be charged with the first
00:28:25.420 degree murder of Chandra Ann Levy. She says that she called Bob and Susan Levy that morning to
00:28:31.600 prepare them. Today we make a very significant announcement. We announced that the Metropolitan
00:28:37.060 Police Department have secured an arrest warrant and homicide in 2001 of Chandra Levy. The arrestee
00:28:45.140 is Ingmar Wendike. With that, Lanier does something the department has not done
00:28:50.600 in eight years. She points the case at another man, and she never once says the name Gary Condit.
00:28:58.820 Congressman Condit was never charged with anything. He was interviewed multiple times.
00:29:03.320 I interviewed him with my FBI partner. Did people think that he was a real possibility? Sure.
00:29:09.200 Did it ever make any sense to me? The answer is no. The trial opens in Washington on October 25th,
00:29:15.140 2010, more than nine years after Chandra disappeared, the lead prosecutor, Amanda Haynes.
00:29:22.320 Amanda Haynes was one of the most senior homicide prosecutors in Washington, D.C.
00:29:26.300 She was so good, they put her on the most difficult assignments, and that's cold cases. 0.87
00:29:31.700 Amanda Haynes had a way of relating to the jury. 0.59
00:29:35.100 She can tell a story and make people see the crime scene and see the final moments of the victims' lives.
00:29:41.300 In her opening, Haynes names the thing that had cost the case so many years.
00:29:47.380 The investigation, she tells the jury, had been pulled off course by the affair between the intern and the congressman.
00:29:54.600 This case, she says, is also about the secrets of a man named Gary Condit.
00:29:59.740 Then she sets Condit aside and turns to the man in the defendant's chair.
00:30:04.560 This is not an easy case to prove.
00:30:07.180 There is no physical evidence tying Guandique to the scene.
00:30:10.080 She admits that.
00:30:11.300 There is no confession on the record.
00:30:12.900 The medical examiner, working from remains that lay out in the open for more than a year,
00:30:18.840 could never determine how Chandra died, only that it was a homicide.
00:30:22.840 What the state has is the pattern in the park, Guandique's own shifting stories,
00:30:28.760 and a jailhouse witness named Morales, who says the defendant told him he did it.
00:30:34.800 Morales is the case.
00:30:36.700 When Armando Morales took the witness stand,
00:30:38.740 he was the only piece of evidence that directly linked
00:30:42.280 Ingmar Guandique to the death of Chandra Levy.
00:30:46.080 To reporters watching in the courtroom,
00:30:48.300 Morales is strong on the stand.
00:30:50.280 He is calm, he's specific, and his story does not flatter anyone.
00:30:55.140 He tells the jury Guandique insisted he had not raped Chandra,
00:30:59.360 only killed her, an account that cuts against the defendant
00:31:02.680 and against the prosecution's own earlier assumption
00:31:05.740 that Chandra had been sexually assaulted, which is exactly why it lands. For the jurors, it will
00:31:12.600 come down to whether they believe Morales. There is no weapon to hold up, no fingerprints,
00:31:18.640 no video, no DNA linking him to the crime. There is the pattern in the park, and there is the man
00:31:24.900 from the Kentucky cell. The defense tells a very different story. Guandique's public defenders
00:31:30.780 argue that the government has taken a man guilty of two ugly park attacks and used those crimes to
00:31:36.540 pin a murder on him it could not otherwise solve. It's not a hard story to tell. For years, the
00:31:43.460 police have chased the wrong man in full public view and have been mocked mercilessly in the
00:31:48.580 media. Now the defense says they need a conviction, so they've reached for the easiest target,
00:31:55.080 an illegal immigrant with no alibi and a record of violence in that very park.
00:32:00.780 Morales, they say, is a career criminal, telling a jailhouse story no one can verify in a case
00:32:07.220 with no cause of death, no physical evidence, and no confession anyone recorded. Suspicion
00:32:13.200 is not proof, they tell the jury. Similarity is not identity. The defense has one more card.
00:32:21.220 A small amount of DNA from an unknown man was found on Chandra's leggings,
00:32:25.960 matching no one who was tested, not Guandique, not Condit, not the technicians who handled the
00:32:33.060 leggings. The prosecution calls it contamination. The defense asked the jury to consider that it
00:32:39.320 might belong to the actual killer. In her closing argument, prosecutor Amanda Haynes tells the jury
00:32:45.720 how she thinks Chandra died. It is a story Haynes tells with confidence, but one Chandra's remains
00:32:52.120 could never prove. She describes a young woman attacked on the trail, bound and gagged, Haynes
00:32:57.800 theorizes, left unable to call for help, dying alone in the ravine of exposure and thirst.
00:33:04.560 Then Haynes says the thing the defense will seize upon. No one really knows how Chandra Levy died.
00:33:12.200 What Haynes asks the jury to know is who killed her. The jury takes the case on a Friday.
00:33:19.300 Deliberations run into a third day, then a fourth.
00:33:22.600 Notes come out of the room.
00:33:24.240 Everyone in the courthouse starts watching the jury room door.
00:33:27.460 A lot of people thought that this was going to be a hung jury.
00:33:31.560 We did not think all 12 jurors would be able to come back with a verdict.
00:33:35.440 Much to our surprise, three and a half days later, they come back.
00:33:38.180 On November 22, 2010, after three and a half days, the jury comes back with a verdict.
00:33:45.220 Guilty of first-degree murder.
00:33:47.800 Guandique tears the translation headphones from his ears.
00:33:51.540 Outside the courtroom, Chandra's mother, Susan Levy, speaks.
00:33:55.260 She has waited nine years for this.
00:33:58.400 The result of the verdict may be guilty,
00:34:02.380 but I have a lifetime sentence of a lost limb missing from our family tree.
00:34:09.420 Three months later, on February 11, 2011, Guandique is sentenced to 60 years in prison.
00:34:16.520 At the hearing, Susan Levy stands a few feet from him
00:34:19.380 and speaks to him directly.
00:34:21.440 She looked him in the eye and she said, 1.00
00:34:25.660 you know, you are a hideous creature. 1.00
00:34:28.480 You are lower than a cockroach. 1.00
00:34:30.560 You should rot in hell. 1.00
00:34:32.740 And it was very dramatic. 1.00
00:34:35.340 She then pleaded for the truth about Chandra's murder.
00:34:38.500 Did you really take her, she asked.
00:34:40.680 Look into my eyes right now and tell me.
00:34:43.480 Guandique shakes his head.
00:34:44.780 the judge interrupts and tells susan she cannot speak to guandique directly susan looks at the
00:34:51.360 judge then back to the man convicted of killing her baby girl she adds one line and finally 0.99
00:34:58.360 fuck you and then she sits down when his turn comes guandique tells the court he is sorry for 0.99
00:35:05.360 what happened to chandra levy but that he had nothing to do with it for the levy family after 1.00
00:35:11.300 nine years and nine months, it is the closest thing to an answer anyone has ever handed them.
00:35:17.800 A jury heard the case and found that the man in the park killed their daughter. Bob and Susan
00:35:23.440 Levy fly home to Modesto, believing it's finally over. But the whole of that verdict rests on the
00:35:30.900 word of one man, Armando Morales. He has told the jury he wanted nothing for his testimony.
00:35:37.960 He has told the jury he had never been an informant in his life.
00:35:43.340 Neither of those things was true.
00:35:46.300 That man has not told the jury everything.
00:35:49.980 Next time on MK Confidential, a woman with seven hours of secret recordings, a letter
00:35:56.620 the prosecution never turned over, and a conviction nine years in the making undone by a single
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