The STRANGE Jenson Huang Exit, and the ＂Pick Another Protein＂ Win, with Sean Davis and Sohrab Ahmari, Plus Shock Chris Watts Prison Behavior ｜ Ep. 1440
00:08:20They don't need they don't need, you know, something that lofty in order to stick a spy on you.1.00
00:08:27But he has fallen in the equivalent of, you know, two seconds in corporate time.
00:08:33And he's literally one of the most powerful men in the world, Sean.0.77
00:08:37So I don't I see why smart minds are asking for a bit more, because it's really hard to believe that the alleged fair with the second lady who's an American.0.53
00:08:49her name is Kimberly Powell, and she's working for him, is the straw that broke the camel's back.0.51
00:08:55Like, really? I mean, seriously? In 2026 America?
00:09:00Yeah, so I'll just disclose at the very beginning, I'm not an AI expert. I'm not a semiconductor
00:09:06expert. I don't own NVIDIA. I don't own AMD. I don't own any individual stocks, and I don't have
00:09:11time to track all that stuff. One thing I do understand, though, is how coordinated attempts
00:09:46to take down somebody's political rival. I watched this thing with Jensen Huang.
00:09:52And I got to tell you, something doesn't add up here. So we've seen lots of assertions and
00:09:58allegations, generally third or fourth hand, that somebody saw something from someone,
00:10:03from someone in intel that this person was a spy. I would like to see the evidence that this person
00:10:08was a spy, because that seems to be a pretty important fact. It doesn't appear to be in
00:10:13dispute that he was having an affair with one or two or 10 or however many women. I don't know.
00:10:18But I would like to see the evidence that this person was a spy because Huang was out there
00:10:23for a long time talking about wanting to ease export controls. He thought it was bad for the
00:10:28industry. He thought it was bad for the country. Again, I don't have an opinion on that. I just
00:10:31haven't done enough research. So he was out there in the open talking about this. And all of this
00:10:37just happening so quickly. By the way, this morning, Anthropic announced its IPO. I'm sure
00:10:42that's totally coincidental. For all of this to happen in a matter of days, you get drop one that
00:10:47he's having an affair, drop two, it's with a Chinese spy, drop three, he was having an affair
00:10:52with a direct report, drop four, he's out. And then it's all happened on the same day that one
00:10:57of their major non-open source competitors just happens to be dropping its IPO. I smell a rat.
00:11:04None of this adds up. It all seems like a coordinated attempt to take down somebody
00:11:08who's very powerful and very rich running a very important company. And I'm just not satisfied at
00:11:14all with any of the actual evidence and facts we've seen. What do you make of it, Soreb? It's
00:11:21just reading a little from Arnaud's report here that Glenn linked to. He writes the following,
00:11:26just to underscore it. This is the biggest irony of the whole Alice Wong NVIDIA saga.
00:11:32The Chinese government actually doesn't want NVIDIA chips and is actively keeping them out
00:11:38of the country. And he points out that NVIDIA explicitly framed this as a threat to its business
00:11:45in its latest annual report to the SEC, which is an official filing with the government where
00:11:50NVIDIA had written, quote, the Chinese government has encouraged customers to purchase from our
00:11:56China-based competitors and has discouraged customers from purchasing, importing, or using
00:12:02our data center products. Continues our nod. Why does China do that? Because every NVIDIA chip
00:12:08a Chinese company buys is one that the Chinese companies do not sell. And domestic chips can0.98
00:12:16only catch up in China if people actually buy them, which means that the notion that the Chinese
00:12:23intelligence was running honey traps to get more NVIDIA chips into China gets the whole thing
00:12:30exactly backward. So I'm going to come down more on the side of the mainstream account of this.
00:12:38I should note Arnaud Bertrand can be a very insightful analyst, but it's worth noting that he's a Frenchman who lives in China and almost always presents, broadly speaking, Beijing's point of view.
00:12:56Now, that doesn't mean that he's wrong in this case, but it's important context to know it.
00:13:04And again, sometimes he can be very, very insightful, but it's it's it's worthwhile context.
00:13:10In terms of, you know, what this woman was up to, obviously, right, we're all in the dark.
00:13:16All we have to go by is reporting in the mainstream media, including the Financial Times, which is quite reliable and a good paper and the New York Times.
00:13:26that which in turn rely on u.s intelligence sources apparently uh but look i mean the idea
00:13:32that this person i mean so the idea that this woman this other one uh i love the my former
00:13:40colleagues at the new york post gave it the headline and the day of when it broke um wong
00:13:44bang bang wong wong i can't remember which way they had it but it's it was it was good um but
00:13:52But but at any rate, the idea that, you know, this person was running a honey trap operation to get a CEO, it needn't just be about export controls.
00:14:01It could also be about industrial espionage is plausible, given the modus operandi of the of the Beijing regime.
00:14:10So, you know, in terms of why he fell, I think the Occam's razor explanation is not the fact that, you know, he had too many affairs or that this latest one with one of his own direct reports.
00:14:26Powell, Kimberly Powell, a name I remember because my best friend from zero to nine was named Kimberly Powell.
00:14:32In fact, in Syracuse, New York, so much so that I looked up just to see what the age of this Kimberly Powell is to see if it might be my best friend all grown up.
00:14:50And the one that I think would be troubling from the point of view of NVIDIA's shareholders, from the point of view of the U.S. intelligence community, is the Wong lady, not the Kimberly Powell.
00:15:01The Kimberly Powell one is really a question of, like, management and Jensen Huang's relationship with his own wife, et cetera, et cetera.
00:15:08By the way, as I said on Twitter, this is like a classic case of you cannot beat the book of Proverbs.
00:15:14You know, something like 50 percent of the Proverbs in the book of Proverbs are something along the lines of beware the strange woman.
00:15:23You know, like she that way lies ruin.1.00
00:15:28and it like always is vindicated like just just keep it within marriage and you're not going to
00:15:34be in this situation like poor jensen huang whether or not if he's been set up or actually
00:15:39fallen you know in thrall to a to a chinese spy but but like the the basic mainstream account is
00:15:45what i'm trying to say is not implausible given what we know the fact that the chinese have
00:15:50for decades tried to get ahead through industrial espionage and really it's like our qualitative0.64
00:15:57edge in when it comes to these kinds of chips is only a few months ahead at a time, as far as I
00:16:03understand. And so, you know, any marginal advancement, whether that's through getting
00:16:08the chips or getting the sort of the schemata or whatever it might be that goes into producing them0.88
00:16:13would help them in this kind of industrial war that we're locked in with China. And it's a kind0.86
00:16:19of bipartisan recognition that that this is our main priority. I get that. But here's here's my
00:16:25question. If you accept all of that, why, why are we getting rid of him? Why are we bounce passing
00:16:31him out of this company? He definitely effed up. If, if this woman really Alice Wong and Jensen
00:16:36Wong, they're all Wong. Um, if they actually had an affair and she's actually, well, he's admitting
00:16:43the affair now, even though he denied it publicly, but, uh, and she's actually a Chinese spy.
00:16:48He, he effed up royally, Sean, there's no question. That's a, that's a massive F up.
00:16:52And then he apparently schdupped a gal who works for him. That's a violation of company policy from what they tell us. I mean, can't there be I realize the Chinese spy thing is bad, but like he seems to be one of our best and brightest.
00:17:06It's like, you know, the equivalent of firing Steve Jobs from Apple.
00:17:34President Trump is out there tweeting this morning saying the obvious choice is Tim Cook.
00:17:38He didn't want Jensen fired to begin with.
00:17:40But like there's no succession plan there.
00:17:43I have no idea whether Tim Cook wants to come out of retirement and do this at all.
00:17:46I mean, it's a severe lapse in judgment.0.97
00:17:48And if he's prone to having, you know, sort of made that lapse once, I think it's not it's not crazy or unreasonable to worry that he might do it again or whether or not there were more instances of the kind with other Chinese nationals.
00:18:04I mean, this is a sort of paramount issue of United States national security.0.82
00:18:18There's no there's no suggestion, Sean, that he was complicit or he was actually trying to help the Chinese unless that's coming, in which case, for sure, he needs to be fired and also put in prison.
00:18:29Yeah, well, I remember we had a similar story about a woman named Feng Feng a couple of years ago who is getting busy with U.S. congressmen on the Intel Committee overseas.
00:18:41All this stuff gets an incredible amount of classified information. And what we got from the media in that instance was a collective yawn.
00:18:48And so looking at the differences between these two situations, I think to me is a fascinating case study in how media hysteria and hype cycles work.
00:19:00I often joke that I wish I had started a PR company and I would call it, how about you do nothing?
00:19:07And the advice I would give to every single person who finds themselves in these frenzied loops is, all right, I get that you're freaked out.
00:19:18because the reality of these hype cycles is they have a shelf life. It's usually one to two to
00:19:24three days. In the most extreme circumstances, it might last a week. But if you're able to survive
00:19:30the hype cycle and not make any crazy decisions driven by hysteria and panic and emotion,
00:19:37you usually can survive them. At least you can get to the point where you can make a rational
00:19:42decision based on good information. You can think through the long-term consequences.
00:19:45But in every one of these media hype cycles, the features are always the same. The rhetoric is ramped up. They're targeted at one person. They're designed to make that person hysterical and irrational and force them into a decision in the midst of panic that they wouldn't otherwise make.
00:20:04So again, I don't know if this woman was a spy. I agree with Sorov. It's totally plausible. Of course, it's plausible. This is how the CCP works. But we don't have this evidence. And whenever I see one of these hype cycles, they're designed to make people into to make decisions under pressure. Like when you're walking into a car dealership, they're always telling you, well, the sale ends today. You can't walk out today.
00:20:28They're designed to manipulate you into making decisions you wouldn't otherwise make.
00:20:33And why this guy, one of the richest people on earth, one of the biggest brains behind
00:20:37the semiconductor and AI boom, why he would do this, I just genuinely don't understand.
00:21:20I think there must be another shoe to drop.
00:21:22That's my gut instinct. Like there's something else coming, because to me, even though it's bad, I mean, hell, on paper, oh, he had an affair with a Chinese spy who may have gotten all these NVIDIA secrets and given them back to China.
00:21:34That's bad. But really, that's that's weakness on his part for the honeypot Chinese gal.0.96
00:21:40It's not nefarious conduct. It's like someone took advantage of him.0.83
00:21:45someone performed a crime against him and okay you can make the case that we need a ceo who's
00:21:52got the moral integrity to resist affairs and i get all that but like are you going to find one
00:21:57better than jensen wong now i mean if you want somebody who's got the moral integrity to resist
00:22:02an affair he's probably at the peak of those capabilities like more so than virtually any
00:22:07other man because fool me once almost jeopardized my whole company you know the u.s economy um not
00:22:14to mention my marriage and my family. I got it now. So I don't know. We'll see. We'll continue
00:22:20to keep an eye on it. I want to keep going and hit some politics with you guys. We're now a week
00:22:26and two days after the Tuesday evening slaughter of the GOP party. And one of my favorites is Jesse
00:22:37Kelly. And he came on last week and made such good points about how, well, in this case,
00:22:45we played a soundbite of Mark Thiessen, who was ripping on J.D. Vance, saying, why did he just say
00:22:52that the Iran war was to blame? Where was his statement about what a courageous decision it
00:22:58was for President Trump? And Jesse, in a bite that went viral, went off saying, your damn,1.00
00:23:05quote, courage just cost us Texas. I used to live in a red state. Now it's blue. You endangered my1.00
00:23:12life. You endangered my children's lives. So spare me. You don't get to do your little courageous
00:23:16act. This is to the neocon war hawks over the lives of my children. Well, enter Rick Santorum,
00:23:26who is definitely of the GOP's neocon wing, though he also had a lot of very good ideas
00:23:32when it came to reviving the manufacturing industry.
00:26:19And he kind of pioneered populism in his 2012 campaign.
00:26:23And many of those themes then became the original kind of brand of pro-worker populism that Donald Trump in 2016 picked up.
00:26:33And he's a really good guy and a serious man of faith.
00:26:37But I do disagree with him because, look, I've seen videos of truck drivers saying, I cannot go on.
00:26:45i'm basically not moving my truck which is my source of income because i get paid let's say a
00:26:51thousand dollars for a trip and my diesel filling it up costs uh three hundred dollars it's now six
00:26:57hundred add all the other expenses and i am being driven to ruin so it it like to say to that person
00:27:04like just suck it up for a region of the world the middle east that is increasingly of less and
00:27:10less important to U.S. national security, to U.S. energy security. We're the world's number one
00:27:17net energy exporter. We don't need oil. We don't need gas for ourselves. And, you know, frankly,
00:27:22the region itself, compared to China, which we talked about in the last segment, is of much
00:27:27less importance. So to tell that person, and I've seen enough of these videos, which then you
00:27:34combine with the data from the election, that it breaks my heart to hear, if I were to put myself
00:27:40in the shoes of the farmer who's struggling because of diesel prices, or the truck driver
00:27:45who has had to basically park his car in the garage because they can't rationally operate
00:27:52their business. And now their mortgage payments mount, healthcare bills mount. I just can't bring
00:27:58myself to share Rick's point of view when it comes to those people. And I will say that here's the
00:28:04warning, is that the Republican Party that Rick represented, even though he was, by the way, in
00:28:09some ways a dissident from it in 2012 and so on but that party was headed to becoming a rump
00:28:15regional party meaning it was no longer a viable national party trump came in and once more made
00:28:22it a national party not least by saying we're not going to get into dumb wars in the middle east
00:28:28we're not going to jump into quagmires and we're going to emphasize the working men and women of
00:28:33this country here. Unfortunately, I'm afraid that thanks to the hawks, right now the GOP is on a
00:28:41trajectory of once more becoming a rump regional party, a party of, you know, evangelical megachurches,
00:28:49which tend to be very hawkish and very pro-Israel, and like your prototypical car dealer, but not
00:28:55those working class and lower middle class people who voted for Trump in 2016, and then in 2024,
00:29:00And in a kind of multiracial way, by the way, that party is being lost. And the path to regaining a kind of national influence for the Republican Party seems it seems like a very uphill route.
00:29:16And that's where the kind of Rick Santorum worldview brought us. And it's bringing us again.
00:29:21those truckers you're talking about are listening to us right now i hear from them every week in our
00:29:27show email because they listen to us on sirius xm as they drive across the country and they are
00:29:32suffering these are not rich men and women um and the the diesel situation has been absolutely
00:29:40devastating to the trucking industry out there but so many industries beyond it's so
00:29:46short-sighted. I'll use a nice term for Rick Santorum, who I also like. But a couple of
00:29:53other come to mind. Boneheaded is another nice way of saying it, to suggest that they just have
00:29:58to suck it up. I mean, these are industries across the globe, but certainly here in America,
00:30:03where we're worried about our fellow Americans, that suffer when these prices go up. Here is,
00:30:07we've played this before, but it's Doug, my husband, Doug Brunt, who wrote a book called
00:30:14the mysterious case of rudolph diesel most people before doug wrote this book a couple of years ago
00:30:19didn't even know that diesel should be capitalized it's a proper noun it's a man the diesel engine
00:30:24was created around you know the late 1800s turn of the 20th century and um it was by this german
00:30:32kid named rudolph diesel who was raised mostly in france who was a genius when it came to
00:30:37engineering even though he's very poor and he came up with this new engine that was so magical in its
00:30:44ability to not combust and not catch on fire, that it would become the dominant engine for
00:30:53boats, for tractors, for big rigs, all across the world. And those are the ones who pull up
00:31:00and fill their cars with diesel gas. They have diesel engines. That's why they need it.
00:31:04Here's Doug explaining it better than I just did.
00:31:07this is the guy whose engine power it's the it's the most important power source over the last
00:31:14hundred years in the world and continues to be our most important power source when you consider
00:31:19a piece of fruit grown in a tropical region all of the farm equipment used to grow that fruit
00:31:24is diesel powered it gets loaded onto a truck anything larger than a passenger car and a third
00:31:30of the passenger cars also is diesel powered it goes down to port where a crane diesel powered
00:31:35loads it onto a cargo ship, 100% of cargo ships.
00:31:38I think there's one Russian nuclear cargo ship
00:34:24The other thing that Trump made his name on, that's the only area that when you ask people what they approve of, that they picked Republicans over Democrats, it was on immigration enforcement.
00:34:34No, the reality is that the war in Iran cost Republicans their majority.
00:34:42The war in Iran cost Republican seats in Mississippi, in Kansas, in South Carolina, and in Iowa, places that really should not have been on anyone's map for party flips.0.85
00:34:53The Iran war caused this. And the thing about politics is if you do not represent the values and the interests of the people, they are not going to elect you to represent them. That is what happened. I get that there are people who.
00:35:06Sean, can I just follow up on this? You and I both know if they really believed that Iran was
00:35:14about to launch a nuke, the American people would be behind what Trump did on February 28th of this
00:35:21year. They actually would have supported it. They didn't believe him. They still don't believe him.
00:35:27We know it was a lie. We know that. And the reason we know is because we know that the previous June
00:35:33He bombed their nuclear sites to smithereens. We know that from him. We know that when this Iran
00:35:39war that he launched in late February started to flounder, he said, we don't have to worry about
00:35:43nuclear. We took out their nuclear facilities last June anyway. So he reiterated it, even though he
00:35:48had denied that the threat had been extinguished when he was first trying to justify the war when
00:35:53it wasn't going well and he wanted to sort of peace out. He confessed, OK, it's true. We don't0.52
00:35:59don't worry about it. We already took care of their nuclear program where, you know, people like us
00:36:02were like, we know we've been saying that for months. You've been calling us anti-Semites
00:36:06for saying that. And they know because the explanation for the war was shifting every0.77
00:36:12two seconds, whereas it would not have been if this actually were an acute threat that was
00:36:16building that our intel was behind. We know that they weren't. Tulsi Gabbard told us that like
00:36:20they just know it's a lie. So it's like the people are patriotic. They love the country.
00:36:25They will sacrifice for a long time if they feel it's genuinely needed. But they they don't feel
00:36:32that way. Right. And I think what is really rubbing people the wrong way, look, if you believe
00:36:36that Iran needs to be taken out, fine, that you believe it, you're not going to change people's
00:36:41beliefs on that. But to come to someone who is having a tough time making ends meet because0.98
00:36:47COVID and the Biden admin drove prices through the roof, and now gas is twice as expensive as it was
00:36:52a year ago to tell them, you know what, I've decided that your finances are worth sacrificing.
00:36:57that is a deeply insulting thing to do. And one thing I've not heard from anyone saying,
00:37:02you know, it's worth paying a dollar or $2 or $3 a gallon more of gas. Okay. Well then you can pay
00:37:08for my gas. None of them has offered that. You can pay for my heating bill. Okay. You can pay
00:37:14for my airline ticket, which is now twice as much as it used to be because I've got to fly somewhere
00:37:18for work. You do it. And none of them are offering to sacrifice. There's a, there's a whole lot of
00:37:22talk about how I need to sacrifice and you need to sacrifice. But none of the people saying that
00:37:28are willing to sacrifice for me or you or anyone else. And everyone can see through that. Everyone
00:37:33can see, look, it's not actually about the nuclear program because if it were, it would have been
00:37:37done a year ago. You thought you were going to get a quick, easy regime change like you did in
00:37:41Venezuela. It didn't happen. And now we're all paying the price. And say what you will about
00:37:46George W. Bush and the disastrous Iraq war, how it gave us Obama. It eventually gave us Biden.
00:37:51It wreaked havoc on our influence all over the globe.
00:38:06We got a State of the Union from the president in February that barely even mentioned Iran.
00:38:10And it sure didn't mention that we were about to go to war there.
00:38:13And it sure didn't ask the people to go along with it and agree to sacrifice.
00:38:17It was dropped on us with no notice after a campaign of no new wars.
00:38:20And anybody who is shocked by the country rejecting that is completely clueless.
00:38:26Mm hmm. Yes. The it's not dissimilar to the reason the Republicans just lost that Senate seat in Mississippi.
00:38:36It's official now that seat will go to a Democrat. Mississippi has elected a Democrat to take over for the Republican seat held by or the seat that was held by a Republican.
00:38:48Cindy Hyde-Smith, by this guy who seems incredibly talented politically, Scott Colom,
00:38:55who exploited masterfully her ridiculous comment at a debate earlier in the campaign season
00:39:05where she was asked about the fact that red meat was costing a lot and people couldn't afford it.0.70
00:39:13And she actually said, well, pick another protein.
00:39:16And so not only did he do an ad about this, which I'm going to show, we've played it before, but he used the best people in this ad.
00:39:25It's like regular people who you'd want to know, who you've had at your house, who like they talk the way we all talk behind the scenes.
00:39:33And he didn't bleep it like he leaned into.
00:39:36This is what normal people heard when she said that.
00:40:08I don't actually have friends in Mississippi,
00:40:09but my brother lives in Georgia, which is close enough.
00:40:12And that is exactly the accent. All of it. It was perfect. Those are real voters who were like, this is ridiculous. It's just it resonated perfectly. So, you know, and like that is why we now have a Democratic senator from Mississippi instead of the Republican Cindy Hyde Smith.
00:40:30Yeah, you really begin to think that this version of the Republican Party, and I really thought, I think you and Sean did as well, that we had moved beyond this version of the Republican Party has a death wish, like a political death wish.
00:40:46You know, Sigmund Freud said that in addition to the drive to pleasure, human beings have a death wish.
00:40:51At some point, you want to enter the life of non-living things and blend in with them.
00:40:56And the Republican this version of the Republican Party has a political version of the death wish who says eat another meat like how how does that go through or go through because say, hey, I'm going to I'm going to fight to end this war as quickly as possible.
00:41:13I'm going to push for whatever. But to say don't eat red meat, I'm sorry. They deserve it. And I, you know, I mean, I can't help but cheer that outcome because people, a politician who is stupid enough to say pick another protein, also callous enough to say that because I bet she can eat red meat whenever she wants to, doesn't deserve high office.
00:41:38sorry and i i look forward to seeing what what um um cologne puts forward yes she deserves to lose0.85
00:41:47she did lose as did the republicans in a devastating event there's just one more on him
00:41:51because he he i think this guy he's he's got a future in front of him he could be in the
00:41:58presidential mix next time around after his uh six years or possibly 32 comes is that six years away
00:42:04I don't want to do the math today. Yes, I guess it is. OK, yes. So maybe that presidential race.
00:42:09But here he is talking to Trump rally goers as they're on the rope line waiting to get in.
00:42:15Stop five. How are you doing, sir? Can I introduce myself?
00:42:18Bill Calvin. I'm Scott Colon, Bill. Good to meet you for your service.
00:42:21Thank you. Absolutely. What matters to you as a veteran right now?
00:42:24Second Amendment, right? Second Amendment. I'm big on that.
00:43:58And there are people in this party on the right who will say, well, populism is wrong. Populism is bad. We have to be better than this. The whole point of democracy is that you let people pick their leaders so that their leaders represent them in the way they want to be represented. And the Republican Party has lost its mind.
00:44:16You know, Sorab said it has a death wish. I don't think it's quite there yet. It has a minority wish
00:44:21because Republicans love being in the minority. When you're in the minority, everyone has to call
00:44:27you senator. You still get taken to the front of the line at the airport in front of all the plebs1.00
00:44:31so you can get on the plane first. You still get fed it at all the galas and all the parties and1.00
00:44:36all the cocktail hours. But what you don't have to do when you're in the minority in Washington
00:44:40is anything. You don't have to do anything. If nothing happens, it's not your fault. Well,
00:44:45I'm just in the minority. Talk to those guys. They're in the minority. They get all the perks
00:44:49of power. They get all the benefits of being in Washington without any of the responsibility
00:44:53and the accountability. So I guarantee you the Republican Senate leadership right now
00:44:58is thrilled with what happened because they never wanted to be in charge.
00:45:02John Thune spent the last year crying about people telling him to pass a voter ID bill.
00:45:07He had a majority. He had 53 votes. Instead of actually doing the work, he spent a year and a
00:45:11half making excuses for why he couldn't do the work. Well, John Thune hit the jackpot because
00:45:15now as minority leader, he doesn't have to make excuses anymore. He just gets to be there and
00:45:19exist. And nothing's expected of him. Nothing is is accountable anymore. So this is the dream for
00:45:26Republicans in Washington. They don't have to do anything and they're not accountable to anyone.
00:45:31He didn't have a 60 vote majority and he didn't want to get rid of the filibuster,
00:45:36which feels like a good decision now that the Republicans are going into the minority.
00:45:41However, there's a real question about whether it's going to how much longer it can possibly survive anyway, because, you know, both sides are now threatening to get rid of it.
00:45:49And I honestly like my concern is because like the Democrats may win the White House in 28 and then if they don't win a 60 vote majority in the Senate, which is possible thanks to what happened last Tuesday, that they will.
00:46:02But if they don't, they're almost certainly going to get rid of it.
00:46:04They're going to there's no reason to do it now because they don't have the White House.
00:46:07But when we get to 28, if they don't get a 60 vote majority in the Senate and they do win the White House, it's very possible they'll get rid of it.
00:46:16Trump today pulled Vice President Vance off of trying to settle the Iran war, which is technically still ongoing.
00:46:26We're not in the midst of a bombing campaign, but we're still we have a blockade on the Strait of Hormuz.
00:46:32who's my friend and hairstylist, Sarah, hates when we talk about Iran.
00:46:38She's like, I don't care about the Strait of Hormuth.
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00:54:28Sean Davis and Saurabh Amari are back with me now. We've got an update for you in this case
00:54:33of the two Mississippi, the Ole Miss students, two of them accused of racist acts because they
00:54:42walked by the door of an apartment in which black female students lived and were caught on the ring
00:54:49cam making monkey gestures and sounds. The first young woman we told you about yesterday in the0.99
00:54:57video, we'll show it to you in a second. She says she had no idea that black women lived inside this
00:55:03apartment and that they had been doing this to at least four random apartments. The black women1.00
00:55:10inside the apartment gave an interview to CBS Mornings and they said they came out of their
00:55:17apartment, they confronted the girls, and that the second girl you will see in the video continued
00:55:23making the monkey gestures and sounds to her face. The first girl has apologized, saying,
00:55:30I did not know that there were black women inside, and I never would have done those gestures if I
00:55:34had known. She's left the university. The second girl, whose name is now known, it's Lauren Mayfield,
00:55:42has started a GoFundMe because obviously she's facing, you know, probably all sorts of threats0.97
00:55:49and potential civil suits. This isn't criminal. I mean, I suppose you could make a case it's
00:55:55harassment, but I don't see a crime here. In any event, she started a GoFundMe and she's the one0.94
00:56:03who allegedly continued the behavior face-to-face with these women. Those are allegations now we
00:56:08haven't heard her defense. Here's the video, without further ado.
00:56:27So, this, Sean, was everywhere. It was everywhere over the past day and a half,
00:56:36including ABC Nightly News, CBS's Big Morning Show, every paper, CNN, every publication basically
00:56:48that absolutely ignored the murder of Irina Zarutska on the North Carolina light rail train0.58
00:56:57by a black deranged lunatic who has been found incompetent to stand trial, ran with this story.
00:57:05They were not interested at all when this sweet, this is such a sad picture of her cowering on the train, not understanding what had just happened to her.0.97
00:57:15This is after he had basically killed her, but before she died, she didn't know why.
00:57:21She probably didn't understand she was about to die.1.00
00:57:24And then he was heard saying, I got that white bitch.1.00
00:57:27Like, I mean, it's just, okay, they ignored it.1.00
00:57:30has run with this story as though those white girls assassinated the girls inside.
00:57:36Like the level of news this has generated is breathtaking.
00:57:41And we said yesterday, if you want to do this, like we can do this.
00:57:45But most of us in the news, whether it's at The Federalist or Unheard or here at the MK Show,
00:57:49most of us, out of a sense of decorum and an unwillingness to just gratuitously drive up racial hatred,
00:57:56don't spend a lot of time talking about the black on white crime rate or the black on black crime0.96
00:58:03rate, because that's exactly what it would do. There's a sort of a societal resistance0.56
00:58:10to playing up this very unfortunate dynamic that does exist in our country. But if they're going
00:58:17to make us get into racism and crime and offense caused by one group against another, then OK,
00:58:26And I said yesterday, you're not going to like how that ends. And this is how it ends. Check the FBI statistics just for 2025. Blacks killed by whites were 318. How many whites were killed by blacks? Double, double, 640, almost exactly double.
00:58:46White people were killed by black people, which is really saying something since it's almost always black men, not black women.0.98
00:58:54Women aren't really responsible for a high portion of murders.0.98
00:58:56So that means six percent of the population caused double the murder rate against whites, which are a much larger section of the population.0.94
00:59:05When you look at general violent crime, so go beyond murder and look at rape, sexual assault, robbery, aggravated assault, and so on, the crime rate committed by blacks against whites is nearly 10 times the number of crimes committed by whites against blacks.
00:59:23White offenders against black victims is about 57,000 numbers of those in 2024.0.56
00:59:29This is blacks against whites, 536,000.0.67
01:02:36No one has any excuse for being a fat uggo in today's day and age anyway, between Ozempic, Accutane, lasers, like, you know, you don't have to live like that.0.99
01:02:48Trust me, you don't you don't. Here are just a couple of examples.0.88
01:02:52We pulled some of the videos, OK, of the things that haven't made anywhere near the level of news of these two girls making sounds on camera.
01:03:04Um, at York college in Pennsylvania, September, 2026. Um, hold on a second. Looking for the
01:03:12writeup of it. Yeah. This is several female Pennsylvania college students were brutally
01:03:17assaulted by a mob of agitators. This is black on white crime who had invaded their off campus0.64
01:03:22house during an apparent illegal street takeover. Let's watch some of that here in, uh, SOT 12.0.54
01:06:26She was burned over 60 percent of her body. He just came over to her. He started dumping liquid all over her head and body before attempting to light her on fire.
01:06:39She knew what was happening. She tried to get away, fight him off. She ran to the front of the train.
01:06:44He lit the bottle in his hand on fire and used it to set her on fire.
01:06:51She attempted to save herself by rolling around on the ground.
01:07:07He was yelling, burn, bitch, burn alive, bitch.1.00
01:07:11The guy had a lengthy criminal record, 72 arrests, eight felony convictions, seven misdemeanor1.00
01:07:16convictions, a total of 32 years in and out of the criminal justice system.
01:07:20And weirdly, I didn't see that all over CNN or on ABC Nightly News or on any of the publications, the published, the written ones that are playing up this Mississippi story.
01:07:34Black and white violence, including setting someone on fire, beating the shit out of women at polling stations and on subways, doesn't rate.1.00
01:07:56I was especially struck by the footage you showed of the street takeover.
01:08:00Those are really, really serious and dangerous.
01:08:03And they implicate people who are just trying to drive.
01:08:06Often, by the way, these are in New York City where I live.
01:08:09It's in parts of Queens and Brooklyn where a lot of the people who are victimized by it are also people of color.0.96
01:08:16Right. And they're just trying to go about their day. And suddenly there's like a kind of a circle of young people, some of them on bikes, some of them on foot will jump on your car and menace you.
01:08:27I mean, it's extremely violent and dangerous. And so, yeah, I'm with you.
01:08:33I got to say, like, you know, some somebody did something like they were acting out after a night of drinking at a college.
01:08:40Like, you know, is this is, you know, to make it such a national story.
01:08:45And I think I'm sorry, but there is a disparity in terms of the coverage with like the kinds of street crimes that you show.
01:08:53I mean, obviously, a lot of it, by the way, again, in places like New York City, places like a lot of a lot of blue cities, the both the perpetrators and the and the victims of people of color.
01:09:04no one elevates that kind of thing except a few publications right like the new york post where i
01:09:11live is is just unwilling to look unflinchingly as at where crime happens who does it fair but
01:09:18like many others don't and so to like you know again to create a nash is this really
01:09:23it you know what i mean and even if you're a progressive like amid amid the mess of the iran
01:09:29war you know the build out of ai with all of its potential prosperity potential for prosperity but
01:09:35also the downsides for working people to like devote this much attention to a drunken night
01:09:41of revelry um people just and and of course you can find the reverse scenario in 10 000 ways
01:09:47so i and i just think look we're i don't know look the democrats just got elected so that
01:09:54that is obviously a sign that the right was not doing the right things and all three of us here
01:09:58would agree with that. But that is not a license to try to resurrect 2020. 2020 is racial politics,
01:10:052020 is oversensitivity. And this, you know, we had all sorts of warnings in the first half of
01:10:10the segment to the right, to the Republican Party, to not be stupid. The easiest way for the left0.99
01:10:16to go back to being clobbered by the next conservative force, whatever that may look
01:10:22like or whoever it might lead it is to resurrect this kind of symbolic politics of so true people0.98
01:10:29being drunk and say something stupid whatever like we're over that as i just saying there has
01:10:34to be some final settlement of these kinds of issues be like we're done with that there are0.99
01:10:38real problems yeah there is you know ai might render a lot of us jobless what do we do with
01:10:44iran china's a serious competitor like serious news organization and be like we're not going to
01:10:50cover BS. It's tiresome. It's tiresome. No one cares. Yes. And again, like, you know, if you're0.97
01:10:57on the right, this is what you want the left to do. This is the kind of obsession that helps the
01:11:02right when the left gets all up in this kind of nonsense. It's very true. Oh, there was there was
01:11:09an Elon post the other day on the subject of AI that was so depressing. So it was like right now,
01:11:16you know like it wasn't an elon post it was somebody talking about uh something elon had said
01:11:20where it was like and and he was just being honest this was just his take but it was like
01:11:24make sure your kids start an ai company where they can control an ai bot like an ai program
01:11:34in some way shape or form like that's the future like basically there's no other job that that is
01:11:41the only way that they will maintain employment this is after the ceo of anthropic was uh quoted
01:11:48in an interview as being like all the jobs are going to be gone from the white collar world like
01:11:52there'll be no young lawyers there'll be no young consultants there'll be no um young like doctors0.52
01:11:59that they're it's all going to be taken over by ai and just so cavalier as he marches toward his
01:12:04first trillion and you know elon's reaction is like i'm just being honest with you like if you're
01:12:09not an AI, you're F'd, your kids is, I don't want my kids to be an AI. What if I, what if they don't
01:12:13want to be an AI? You know, like it's, it is so aggravating to see this like truly oligarch class
01:12:21just run, run us toward the oblivion of jobs for young people and maybe old people too. I don't
01:12:29know. Like, I guess a few working class people will still have jobs because not all the trucks1.00
01:12:35can be self-driving the toilets can't be self-fixing you know every electrical problem you0.98
01:12:41have may need a pro an actual live human but it's the field of where we're going to need humans
01:12:46according to these tech oligarchs who are ruling us are getting smaller by the second and we're
01:12:51all i get you know there were actually a lot of people who agreed with the comment but when i
01:12:56tweeted out about it and but you know the defenders are like what's the alternative what would you
01:13:00have them do i don't know but i'm fucking pissed off about it yeah look we we should have a
01:13:06political discussion automation is an old human dream going back to aristotle he said if there0.92
01:13:13were you know sort of no if if harps could play themselves and shuttles could weave on their own
01:13:19then masters would have no need of slaves meaning the division between employer and employee slave
01:13:25and master and so on is a product of scarcity so if we're going to move toward a world of really
01:13:31really cheap automation and robots directing other robots etc then we need to have a political
01:13:36discussion a serious political discussion about what do the machines own and the people who own
01:13:42the machines what do they owe to working class people middle class people and what kind of a
01:13:47settlement are we getting these are the kind of political questions by the way that the historic
01:13:51left the old labor left has good answers to and ways of of dealing with i would it would just
01:13:58break my heart is if if we're gonna spend the next several years going back to kind of 2020
01:14:05i don't think we are i think a lot of the progressives are smarter now than they were in
01:14:092020 but the obsession over this oldness like drunken whatever is is is not a promising sign
01:17:03So she tried to stave off the investigation.
01:17:05And now she's relaunched with this puff piece in People magazine, espousing like her desire to be an example to women and how, you know, you can you can just pick yourself up and dust yourself off and overcoming adversity.
01:18:05It's a betting site out of Curacao, and apparently you can't even, like, you can spend your money there, but you can't actually make money off of them.
01:20:51What do you make of it? I'll start with you on that one. So like the attempt to come back as the heroine who's overcome all the adversity without acknowledging any of the bad behavior or even sticking around for the Times's investigation and not one word of true contrition.
01:21:10I just have one line, and it comes from the great veteran New York Times executive editor, Abe Rosenthal, who faced such a situation with a reporter. And he said famously, infamously, I don't care if you fuck the elephants, but if you do, you can't cover the circus. And I just think that Mr. Sini's time covering the circus is over.0.98
01:21:32yes yes there can be no redemption arc sean without the the acknowledgement of what you've
01:21:42done yeah how is she a real person i mean how is that statement real i thought i thought someone
01:21:48was doing a bit oh i've had all these conversations really were they in bed uh were they on pillows
01:21:54were these pillow talk conversations were you clothed during these conversations it's funny to
01:21:59to watch the transformation of sports reporting because it's always been the place where like
01:22:05people who couldn't hack it and other reporting went like people who are really they you can tell
01:22:09watching sports reporting how many people actually hate sports it's weird and then it attracts people
01:22:14who hate sports oddly but we've we've seen political journalism now morph into sports
01:22:20journalism and I feel like the coup de gras there is a reporter sleeping with sources because that's
01:22:26been rampant in political circles for years. I mean, think of the New York Times reporter
01:22:31Allie Watkins, who was sleeping with a Senate staffer, James Wolfe, and getting whispered0.64
01:22:37sweet nothings. And oh, also completely classified FISA warrants given to her. I think she might be
01:22:43at NBC News now. Who knows? You had Biden staffers in the White House at the very top sleeping with
01:22:49reporters. This has happened forever in political reporting. So I just it's kind of sad to see it
01:22:55end up in sports reporting. But, but I apologize that I feel like this has become my role on the
01:23:02show is the prude. No one has ever gotten in trouble ever in the history of the world by
01:23:09keeping it in their pants. Okay. So Jensen Fong, Mike Vrabel, just keep it in your pants. Like
01:23:16there is no limit to the problems you will never have to face. If you just keep it in your pants,
01:23:22I do not understand this obsession with, like, sleeping with Strange all around.
01:25:19The experience of cheating, getting caught, and not just cheating in your marriage and
01:25:24potentially having another man's baby, unconfirmed, but blowing up your whole career because you1.00
01:25:31had the colossally stupid judgment that told you to do this if you're going to go outside1.00
01:25:37your marriage with somebody you're covering, which literally we all know we can never do.0.99
01:25:42Now, look, I haven't had a lot of sources that I'm covering for stories offer to sleep with me, but I did have a very well-known Republican senator who had been through a cancer battle tell me when I was very young in my career at Fox that I, quote, gave him his libido back, who kept asking me out with him.
01:26:05and this person was very powerful, very, very powerful
01:26:35And I just think like for anybody out there, because she clearly wants to be like this example to us all, girl boss, like I did it, they shot me down, but look at me, I've risen again.0.99
01:26:44You have to fucking admit what you've done.0.86
01:26:48There is no redemption arc without the acknowledgement of the sin.0.99
01:26:53Like come out and say, I am so embarrassed.
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01:33:29Chris Watts, a killer that we've been covering here at the MK Show for a while.
01:33:36This is probably the most disgusting family annihilator that anybody's heard of in the
01:33:43past couple of decades. I mean, anybody who does that to their family is despicable. But what Chris0.81
01:33:48Watts did to Shanann Watts and their two little girls is in a special, hellacious, evil league.
01:33:57He, of course, strangled Shanon after she came back from a business trip in the night
01:34:02and then disposed of her body and killed their two little girls in the car right in front of the other.
01:34:13Each girl, the one watched as he killed the other and then put their bodies in oil tanks in a field.
01:34:23And he ultimately would confess all of this.
01:34:26Meantime, he had gone on with local news claiming he had no idea where Shanann was, and he was desperate to find Shanann, and, you know, he just wanted her to come home.
01:34:35They had had a tough conversation, he claimed, that night, so she allegedly left with the girls without, you know, any of their belongings.0.98