Time Magazine has a new piece that takes a look at the influence of foreign countries on American politics, including Israel and its use of social media to influence our elected officials. Plus, a new Timbits flavor and ice cream flavor collaboration.
00:09:11.260And to some extent, that was true, but it wasn't all recycled information.
00:09:16.180I mean, it was great, frankly, to hear the president of the United States zero in on China and its constant spying on us and attempted manipulations of American citizens.
00:09:29.880I mean, the foreign influence conversation when it comes to election integrity is a really important conversation.
00:09:40.520It's just, it's about China and it's about Israel and it's about so many others.
00:09:45.860And we just have to be super honest about this.
00:12:26.300And Alex is a political advisor for President Trump.
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00:13:35.360Well, it was quite in-depth, and I'm looking forward to our conversation around that.
00:13:42.240And thank you for mentioning President Trump's historic speech last night, highlighting the foreign influence in the 2020 election.
00:13:49.920I think for starters, all of those, including myself, who had questions and concerns around the 2020 election, were vindicated last night by the president's speech.
00:13:59.300I think we've been vindicated over the years through all of the different pieces of evidence that have come out.
00:14:03.940I think people like former SISA head Chris Krebs, who went on television right after the 2020 election and said that the 2020 election was the most secure election in history, should probably be questioned and investigated for why he was so quick to spread those claims.
00:14:22.940And the president has been very passionate about this since the beginning.
00:14:28.080A lot of people have told him to move on, but I don't think it's important.
00:17:24.100So perhaps they don't want to secure American elections.
00:17:28.740As the president said yesterday, the only reason that Congress wouldn't want to pass
00:17:32.900the Save America Act would be because they want to cheat. And certain elements in our country
00:17:39.720want to cheat. Perhaps the mainstream media also falls in that bucket. But I think the American
00:17:44.900people, they overwhelmingly supported President Trump again. And one of his core messages on the
00:17:51.5202024 campaign trail was securing American elections. And I'm confident that the administration
00:17:57.960is about to do just that. Well, I think, you know, one of the theories is that the president was
00:18:04.620doing all of this in order to ramp up support for the Save America Act amongst Congress. He doesn't
00:18:10.160have to ramp it up amongst the American people. They already favor this thing. They favor secure
00:18:15.960elections and voter ID. Like it's something like an 80 plus percent issue. I actually think it's
00:18:22.000over 90 percent of the american uh public who want to see voter id universally and yet you wouldn't
00:18:32.240know that if you looked at the response to the save america act in congress they treat it like
00:18:37.440it's not popular like something you know that there's going to be backlash against them if
00:18:42.400they vote for it and it makes no sense whatsoever unless yeah as you point out they're in favor of
00:18:47.800the cheating. They want people who are not citizens to be voting. And that only favors
00:18:51.780one party. Let me just give you one soundbite from the president last night.
00:18:55.940Here he is in sought one on influence in our elections over a period of years,
00:19:02.920starting during the 2020 election cycle, the People's Republic of China carried out what
00:19:09.220is believed to be the largest compromise of election data in history, resulting in China's
00:19:16.200elicit acquisition of 220 million U.S. voter files. That information includes names, addresses,
00:19:25.620phone numbers, political party preferences, and other sensitive data that would be needed to
00:19:31.720register to vote and engage in other nefarious activities, which is exactly what was happening.
00:19:39.400This data loss presents an unprecedented election security nightmare.
00:19:44.020okay now you would think the average american would say i don't want that i don't want the1.00
00:19:51.140chinese accessing my personal information to try to figure out how to manipulate me0.96
00:19:56.580but what if you read the papers today they're all like uh the chinese have had access to our emails0.63
00:20:04.580and our personal data for a long time that's the response alex there is not not nobody's like
00:20:11.440thank God somebody's finally calling attention to this.
00:20:15.140Right. And the president's been trying to raise awareness about this for almost six years now.
00:20:19.120And that's been the response that the that the media has had since the beginning. They don't
00:20:23.200want to look at what took place. They want to continue to dismiss the concerns of the American
00:20:28.300people. They say that everyone or anyone who has questions related to the election are conspiracy
00:20:34.200theorists or threats to democracy. But I truly believe that the threats to democracy are those
00:20:39.360who refuse to want to get to the bottom of this, refuse to want to secure our elections.
00:20:44.820The White House keeps hammering home the message that American elections should be
00:20:48.660decided by Americans. I don't think that's a controversial opinion. I think that is a
00:20:52.200common sense opinion. They must want to cheat because the point is simply if you're if you're
00:20:58.340against cracking down on the CCP, accessing America's private information, what would be
00:21:03.780the reason why like that. Why would Democrats be in favor of that? Well, the answer is they're not.
00:21:10.140It's just once you lift the dress up a little on election integrity, now you're on your way to the
00:21:15.600Save Act, which they really oppose. And the reason they oppose it was espoused explicitly by Michigan
00:21:23.440Democratic Senator Elise Slotkin this week. Listen to her. The other thing that we blocked yesterday
00:21:29.800was the SAVE Act, right? Which was literally allow this administration to rig our democracy
00:21:43.600so that it would be hard for any Democrat in any state to win any election and disenfranchise1.00
00:21:49.620all married women in the meantime, by the way. You'd have to show your birth certificate at1.00
00:21:54.180the polls if you have a married name. So there it is. She uses the word rig, but she's basically
00:21:59.860saying if we pass the Save America Act, we'll never win again. We Democrats will never win
00:22:04.480again because of course it would lead to a cleanup of the voting rolls. Yeah, I don't think she was0.66
00:22:09.880supposed to say that part out loud. I think that the Democrat leadership was probably upset with
00:22:14.000her that she said it. And she doesn't seem to be the strongest candidate. I mean, she's trailing
00:22:18.100Mike Rogers right now in that Senate race. But I'm grateful that she said it. It's a perfect
00:22:22.660campaign ad because it's exactly what the Democrats believe. It's also why the Democrats
00:22:26.880fight us on the census. We don't want to count illegal aliens in the census. And the Democrats1.00
00:22:33.020think that's an outrage because it helps them with certain seats in California or Illinois or New
00:22:39.700York. And so their whole game is not a fair game. And I think that they're upset now because
00:22:47.100the American people are wise to it. They're paying attention to it. And as you mentioned,
00:22:51.800the Save America Act is an 80, 20, maybe 90, 10 issue. And I'm hopeful that the Republican
00:22:59.320Senate will do the right thing and get it done. We shall see. The administration's pushing hard
00:23:03.640on it. But Slack can give away the game there. They need illegals and certain elements of
00:23:10.480manipulation to win elections. And we cannot allow that to continue in our country. And that's
00:23:15.780why I'm very supportive of what President Trump is doing and what he did last night.
00:23:18.960yeah she's not running against rogers they're trying to figure out who's going to run against
00:23:24.540rogers um but she's already oh i forget seat unfortunately but she's the one alex i don't
00:23:30.480know if you remember but when pete hegseth was going through his confirmation hearing she's she0.73
00:23:35.400was literally the most annoying person in the room and and that room included maizey hirono0.96
00:23:41.020okay so it's saying something exactly right yeah i mean it's actually kind of impressive but she
00:23:46.480was like, I know you've done your genuflection to President Trump. She was speaking down to him
00:23:53.020like he was a nothing. And his three tours of duty were meaningless to her or that she was
00:23:59.880somehow equivalent to him because she'd served in the CIA. Okay, look, I find you can serve in the
00:24:06.260CIA, respect your service, but please don't lecture an actual combat veteran about what it's
00:24:12.960like to be a member in the active duty military she was insufferable so there she is as you say
00:24:19.060saying the quiet part out loud all right so let's turn to this time magazine piece the vice president
00:24:24.520went on with joe rogan uh this week and he he called attention to this and uh here's him doing
00:24:31.260that in part and sought six i definitely think you have seen this very discreet extremely well
00:24:38.220funded campaign to try to derail the negotiation and try to derail the deal. And, you know, there
00:24:45.360was again, there's this time article that came out yesterday, a friend sent it to me. It's like
00:24:49.900worth reading, because it lists a bunch of people who have quite literally been paid by a former
00:24:57.920Trump campaign person who was himself paid by certain elements within the Israeli government.
00:25:03.960And those people are attacking me viciously for quite literally trying to accomplish the negotiation objective that the president set for the country.
00:31:49.020is now working to divide Americans from one another.
00:31:51.780when he should be working to unite us as opposed to helping get the president elected and pursue
00:31:56.380his agenda the way he did in 2016 and tried to in 2020. He now is appears to be undermining
00:32:03.660the president's agenda with this influence campaign if it if it doesn't dovetail with
00:32:09.280what Israel wants. And we are divided from Israel right now. At the moment, we're picking this war
00:32:16.880back up with Iran. But Israel's been all over President Trump for the past month as he tries
00:32:20.620to put this war to bed. So in the same way that Brad Parscale and his influencer campaign wouldn't
00:32:26.520hesitate to try to destroy you or me or anyone who speaks up against Israel, we're going to get
00:32:31.460really clear on Brad Parscale's issues to unabashedly and unafraid. Well, it certainly is
00:32:38.100your program. And and so, as you've mentioned, this is the largest far a contract in history,
00:32:46.200this $50 million contract that has gone to Brad's firm, which is unique given the fact that he has
00:32:51.880never had prior lobbying experience. And again, he also doesn't have a relationship with President
00:32:59.100Trump. The Time Magazine article I found to be quite damning and the Wall Street Journal backed
00:33:05.500up similar statements and ended up. So I think the Time Magazine piece said he got paid $1.5
00:33:12.760million a month. The Wall Street Journal the next day said it's been actually closer to $45 million
00:33:17.860that he's been paid, which makes it the largest contract for one entity in FARA history.
00:33:22.980And I've been pretty critical of this contract. I have been probably for the past month because
00:33:29.140I have a lot of questions around it. If you read the initial draft contract
00:33:34.620on FARA's website between his firm, Clocktower X, and an organization out of Germany called
00:33:42.040Havis Media Group, it showcases a set of deliverables. And some of those deliverables
00:33:48.280include language that is reminiscent of the language that he puts in contracts for his
00:33:54.680influencer marketing campaigns, including the guaranteed of 50 million impressions,
00:34:00.340thousands and thousands of pieces of content being delivered each month.
00:34:04.960And I had a lot of questions and concerns around another part of language in there that said he's
00:34:10.360going to integrate narrative messaging into Salem media properties. And so I've been raising
00:34:16.400awareness about this. I was on Tucker Carlson's podcast, which I had a unique response from
00:34:22.580certain people online. And I've been raising awareness about this. I've been asking Brad,
00:34:28.220can you please provide some transparency around what you're actually doing with this money?
00:34:32.460and Brad has denied that he's been paid to undermine the administration's efforts on social
00:34:41.440media, specifically related to opposing the MOU. And he's denied it in the Time article.
00:34:49.720He denied it on social media. And actually last night he called me. I think he learned that I was
00:34:55.840coming on your program and he called me. And again, he denied it to me. We ended up speaking
00:35:01.400for a substantial period of time, and we discussed kind of the ins and outs of the
00:35:09.220contract. He said that after submitting that initial contract to the nation of Israel,
00:35:17.600he learned that he actually couldn't deliver those services. He said that he can't legally
00:35:24.660integrate messaging into Salem Properties. He said if he were to pay influencers through this
00:35:33.460Habes Media Group contract, he would need to disclose every single payment made.
00:35:39.480And he said that through this particular contract with the nation of Israel,
00:35:44.880he has not paid influencers. So I said, well, Brad, can you understand why people would have
00:35:50.700questions related to your draft contract because there's no other contract out. And he was obviously
00:35:57.640understanding of where I was coming from. And I said, Brad, can you please explain to me the
00:36:02.520services that you're providing? And he said, we are simply only doing SMS text messaging.
00:36:09.040and so uh there's there's certain um there's there's certain texts that are going out to
00:36:19.820americans uh on behalf of israel where they are they were supposed to be combating anti-semitism
00:36:28.300but and i pushed back on brad on that i said brad well i received a text a couple of days ago
00:36:34.380from your entity that was basically trying to coach Americans into supporting more of a prolonged
00:36:45.180conflict. So how can how can you say that only your techs are your techs are only going to
00:36:52.180combat anti-Semitism? And we had a back and forth discussion for about an hour.
00:36:57.960He holds the position that he does not pay influencers through this contract.
00:37:04.380So the Time Magazine piece is totally wrong. So he should sue them. I look forward to watching
00:37:09.160his defamation last year. I'm not saying that the Time Magazine piece is totally wrong because the
00:37:10.980Time Magazine piece- Well, no, no, no. If he's right, then the Time Magazine piece is wrong.
00:37:14.440It doesn't actually, it also highlights that Brad has been paid by, and firms of his have been paid
00:37:21.740by pro-Israel groups and pro-Israel influencers have been paid for pro-Israel content through
00:37:30.360brad's firms just not necessarily through this contract uh and so brad can't so this is what
00:37:38.800we call splitting hairs so i understand uh why people are confused i'm also confused by this
00:37:47.020uh there was one influencer in particular who was identified in the time magazine piece his name's
00:37:53.520Ayel Yacobi. And he was identified as one of the influencers who has been compensated
00:38:00.320by Brad's firm in the past for promoting Israel-related issues, according to the Time
00:38:07.580Magazine piece. And so I think there's a lot of transparency questions and concerns that are still
00:38:13.580lingering. And just because I had a conversation with Brad last night,
00:38:18.560It doesn't mean I'm going to pull off of this.
00:38:24.880I'm very well aware that there is a heavily funded coordinated effort online to undermine efforts in the administration.
00:38:36.600This heavily funded coordinated effort I've also been tracking for over a year because it's been used to attack voices on social media who were critical of the war.
00:38:48.560Um, and, and, uh, I think that you are a target, uh, of this. Absolutely. I think Tucker was a
00:38:56.260target of this. Absolutely. And to be honest, I have strongly disagreed with a lot of the things
00:39:02.380that you have said and that Tucker has said. Um, but I also don't think it's right to have these
00:39:09.680heavily funded, manipulated campaigns, uh, you know, trying to discredit you, uh, or attack you
00:39:17.040on a regular basis. And so that's why I didn't speak out about it for the first year. And I'm
00:39:23.860sorry about that. But again, I disagree with a lot of what you've said. But I spoke out about it
00:39:29.480about a month ago after the vice president appeared on your program. And when the vice
00:39:35.560president came on your program, all of these influencers who I've been tracking as part of
00:39:41.400this coordinated effort, all pushed the same talking points. How, oh, the vice president's
00:39:48.200great, but you can't talk to Meghan. This is a major mistake. And he kept talking over and over
00:39:53.580again. And then shortly after that, all of these same influencers started attacking the president's
00:39:59.340MOU. And so I asked Brad about that. And Brad agreed with me, and he's an expert on this,
00:40:06.840that what we're witnessing is not organic.
00:40:10.440He just says that he is not funding it through his contract with Israel.
00:40:18.200And he admitted that he's paid folks like Iyel Yacobi,
00:40:22.880but he said that they haven't been paid for some time.
00:40:26.260So we're still deeply investigating this.
00:40:32.880And these influencers who are being compensated, I believe they're violating many CFTC laws by not being transparent around their compensation.
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00:44:05.200And I played part of our interview in that show.
00:44:12.460And this is right after Brad had just reached out to me.
00:44:15.720And what happened? Some of those influencers immediately started attacking me.
00:44:20.280Suddenly, suddenly I was otherized simply because I wanted to set the record straight on where Charlie was.
00:44:29.900And I knew all of that, not from some secret gleaning of Charlie's mind, but because he was on camera with me saying it.
00:44:38.800And I felt I owed it to him to replay for the audience what he actually felt, because it was right there in his own words. And from that point forward, this same cabal has been literally trying to destroy me in this show, and they have failed. They have utterly failed.
00:44:59.160That is not a figment of your imagination. I want to make that clear. You have absolutely been the target of a well-coordinated online digital campaign, and that is not particularly fun. And I think that a lot of these people, they also don't have the president's best interests at mind or at heart.
00:45:16.700And I think a lot of their attacks on you have maybe even pushed you away from the president more.
00:45:24.140But those attacks aren't coming from our apparatus or our operation.
00:48:17.020And so, you know, Charlie understood the strength of the Israeli lobby, but he also understood that they were becoming a bit more unpopular with young people in our country for certain reasons.
00:48:33.460And I don't believe Charlie was anti-Semitic.
00:48:38.020I don't believe that Charlie had any hate in his heart for Israel, but he saw where it was going.
00:48:46.060I've supported their country for as long as I've been in politics, and I still support their country today.
00:48:53.080I just don't support certain actions of their government.
00:48:56.040And one of the actions that I don't support is the attempts to influence American discourse online and through, you know, even text messaging.
00:49:16.060I think that foreign money should be out of politics permanently.
00:49:20.440And I'm aware that Israel has been trying to run influencer campaigns on social media since at least June of 2025 because somebody connected to the Israeli government personally texted me, the president's social media guy, asking if I would help them do a social network strategy related to Iran.
00:49:41.600And I said, with all due respect, I can't get involved with this one because I don't do foreign work. And so they didn't hire me.
00:49:51.060And correct me if I'm wrong, but it was three months after that, that Brad Parscale signed his deal with the Israelis, giving him forty five million dollars a year, according to The Wall Street Journal.
00:49:59.680Correct. Correct. But also around that time, a group called Project Esther came out and they were paying influencers northwards of $7,000 per post.
00:50:14.160No, no, no. I was universally mocked for saying that on this show, that this same group was out there mocking me at every turn saying I made that up out of whole cloth. You're telling me Project Esther was real.
00:50:24.800It's real. And I wouldn't be shocked if some form of it is still alive today. And that was not run
00:50:32.520through Brad's firm. So there. Yeah, no, they're separate. That's separate. And so I would not be
00:50:38.780shocked if if that program is still running in some capacity or other programs. The Wall Street
00:50:47.160Journal said that Israel has designated hundreds of millions of dollars to help shape American
00:50:55.620public opinion related to the war and related to improving their image in the United States
00:51:04.060with. And just to be clear, just so the audience understands when we were talking about American
00:51:08.460public opinion, if you are a conservative who is over the age of 50, we mean you. That's who
00:51:15.720were talking about. They have lost everyone else. The last group that supports Israel in America
00:51:23.420are conservatives over 50. And the support among that group is waning too. They've lost some,
00:51:29.660now it's down, what is it? Maybe 70, 30 issue with that group. I'll have to go back and check
00:51:34.820the latest polls, but that's who they're now targeting that you are the target. And so if
00:51:40.520you've received positive messages about israel or you know attacking it could be me it could be
00:51:46.540tucker it could be any whatever there is a high likelihood that israel its influencers or its
00:51:52.980paid advocates are behind these attempts to manipulate your opinion because they can't lose
00:51:58.740you they can't lose you you're right um and i think that's i think that's terrible i'm an ally
00:52:05.060of israel i want to see america have a great and strong relationship with israel for many years to
00:52:09.300come. I don't want to see us having issues. I think America needs more allies, not less allies.
00:52:16.000And as you mentioned earlier, in certain times, they don't behave like allies, which is
00:52:19.980unfortunate. But I actually spoke at the Jerusalem Post conference at the beginning of June
00:52:25.120with that same exact message. I said, you know, I'm appalled by the rise of anti-Semitic attacks.
00:52:32.460As an ally of Israel, you know, I'm troubled by the reports that Republicans under the age of
00:52:39.20030 have really broken from the nation of Israel. And I actually said the reason why isn't because
00:52:48.320of podcasters like you, Megan, or Tucker. And yes, you guys can be quite critical and, you know,
00:52:55.340aggressive. But I don't think you guys are the reason necessarily that people are moving away.
00:53:00.320I think some of their biggest advocates in America do more harm for them than good. I think the
00:53:06.900influencer operation that they have engaged in, where all of these people move as a unit and
00:53:12.860attack anyone who's remotely critical of the nation of Israel as anti-Semitic, has done them
00:53:18.180a tremendous disservice. I think mouthpieces like Mark Levin, who is not particularly an appealing
00:53:25.500salesperson to young men in America, when he opens his mouth as an advocate and champion of Israel,
00:53:32.420does he hurt the cause or help the cause? I think he hurts the cause. Same with people like
01:05:35.900However, this industry has been totally hijacked by special interest groups who use them to shill against certain policies of the administration or certain congressional legislation, and also by foreign entities and foreign nations.
01:05:59.960And so I think it's been there used to be this organic element to to the right wing social media sphere.
01:06:07.220And also, I want to just say it's not only a right wing problem.
01:06:10.860The left wing also has their cabal of influencers, but their cabal of influencers are subsidized in large part by some of their donors.
01:06:20.860You know, there's a organization on the left called Midas Touch.
01:06:24.620And I actually think that they do a good job for the left at social media content.
01:06:30.760But Alex Soros wrote them a substantial check, $55 million check into Midas Touch.
01:13:10.900Does he have somebody else running as a guy?
01:13:12.700So there's all of these people who almost get no reach,
01:13:17.460but they have the ability to tweet all day every day so in in in my business in my own in my
01:13:26.880experience i assume that there's someone subsidizing in some way shape or form that content
01:13:33.860and so what i'm going to be doing i think this is kind of the final straw for me this israeli
01:13:41.080operation. I've been actually working with Congresswoman Ana Paulina Luna around cracking
01:13:47.160down on transparency disclosures related to foreign influence. But I think we need it more
01:13:52.440broadly. I think that there needs to be influencer disclosures for all types of online campaigns.
01:13:59.720I don't think that politics should be, you know, I don't think that the political industry0.87
01:14:06.720should have a different set of rules than people who promote bikinis or gambling or sports betting
01:14:13.100or cozy earth, right? I think that if you are compensated for posts related to politics,
01:14:20.420there should absolutely be disclosure laws required. And so I'll be working with
01:14:25.460Congresswoman Ana Paulina Luna and potentially the CFTC on strengthening those disclosure laws.
01:14:30.860I think that I think that to have a the Republican Party would be better served if Republican influencers went back to more of an organic feel rather than being compensated and subsidized by such special interest groups and potentially foreign countries.
01:14:47.380And so what you're seeing online all day, every day is not particularly organic.
01:17:20.220I was, you know, this actually, so Randy Fine is denying it, but this all started because
01:17:26.980Tucker Carlson referred to him with some negative comments when I appeared on Tucker's show.
01:17:34.000And I simply said that I do not agree with statements that Randy Fein has made.
01:17:40.560I said that he has tweeted some ugly things, which he absolutely has, and that he does not speak for the administration and I do not share his beliefs.
01:17:56.080He took to X. He called me a Jew hater.
01:17:58.700um and and i also want to say that i actually defended randy in that interview i said that
01:18:05.740he has a better personality than ted cruz and for whatever reason he didn't say thank you alex for
01:18:12.120saying i have a better personality than ted cruz he said that alex wasn't softened like i yeah it's
01:18:18.620so vile what a vile thing to say right i said i defended the guy and ted cruz or tucker was shocked
01:18:25.680that I said I think he has a better personality than Ted Cruz and I said I genuinely believe that
01:18:29.980to this day even with the fact that he's trying to get me fired I believe that Randy has a better
01:18:34.700personality but for whatever reason that wasn't good enough for him and so he started texting me
01:18:40.440things after he tweeted that I was a Jew hater and he started referring to the president in past
01:18:45.800texts as my former boss and I was like that's interesting you know good luck with all of that
01:18:50.560randy but he absolutely was calling the white house he absolutely was trying to get me fired
01:18:56.140and he's been doing that for almost two weeks but last week i was in the oval office with the
01:19:00.180president having a nice conversation and i think it's disgusting that if he's because he has a
01:19:05.460disagreement with something i said on social media that he's threatening to tank the republican agenda
01:19:10.160and i've heard from dozens and dozens of congress members saying alex we're with you you know just0.62
01:19:15.760keep hold the line randy's being ridiculous which which he absolutely is he he claims to be
01:19:22.180a defender of our values and the trump agenda but he because he doesn't like me he's threatening to
01:19:29.280tank every house rule he's threatening to vote against the save america i think that's very
01:19:34.680inappropriate i don't think i think he's the report just so the audience knows what we're
01:19:38.620talking about there's a publication called notice and they reported that not only does he want you
01:19:43.080fired. They reported that he's told the White House officials that he plans to vote against
01:19:47.680every rule that comes across the House floor until Trump removes you. And he was the sole
01:19:54.460Republican to vote against the rule, laying out how the House will proceed on certain bills this
01:19:58.160week. And then they referred to how this started. TMZ confronted Representative Fine about this
01:20:07.760notice report about you and here's what he said. You're strong arming Trump. No, you are. It sounds
01:20:15.900like you're saying I'm not voting for Save America or for anything until Alex Brunowitz is out of the
01:20:22.840Oval Office. He's one of Trump's top advisers. Well, that's obviously not true. I voted for
01:20:27.380the Save America Act yesterday. Did you see me quoted in the report? No. Look, I have real
01:20:33.980concerns about about anti-semitic adjacent people inside our party are you going to be holding out
01:20:41.660on voting for things that president trump would ideally want until alex bernowitz is out of the
01:20:46.860oval office or stops advising trump i have never voted against the priority of the president
01:20:52.540and i don't plan to start there it is good times i'm having to be asked i'm having a lot of fun
01:20:59.580with this. And I also love having TMZ in Washington, DC. I think they are a absolute
01:21:05.180value add to political discourse. They're great. And Jacob, other than not knowing how to pronounce
01:21:10.380your last name, but it is, it's a tricky last name. They totally butchered my last name and
01:21:14.120not once, but twice, but I forgive them. I wish Randy would just be honest with it. He absolutely
01:21:20.620has been trying to get me fired thus far to. Right. Why hide from it? Yeah. Why hide from it?
01:21:27.600That's that's exactly it. I mean, he but look, I don't hate Randy Fine.
01:21:32.060I disagree with what he says, you know, and and I would, you know, would rather have somebody like Randy Fine in that seat.
01:21:39.220It's a deep Republican seat than a Democrat. But I think he really needs to become more of someone that wants to help the Republican Party.
01:21:47.180And some of the statements that he says on social media certainly doesn't do that, especially it pushes people away.
01:21:53.500that President Trump had a historic coalition in 2024.
01:21:57.640President Trump won Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan.
01:22:00.260He won Jews, a historic percentage of Jews in New York.
01:22:06.520We had young people, we had crypto bros.
01:22:09.000We had a historic gain actually with young women0.91
01:28:12.280How the messaging operation works. They report three people familiar, describe an operation run through a network of interconnected firms overseen by Parscale or other firms he owns or created, such as Campaign Nucleus and Influensible, in which he now has a minority stake.
01:28:28.580through private group chats. They say conservative influencers receive suggested language for posts
01:28:34.700on social media sites, such as X, Instagram, and TikTok. They were then compensated based
01:28:40.240on the impressions and engagement their content generated. It remains unclear how much Pascal's
01:28:47.340office outfits paid creators as part of the Israel campaign. So, I mean, whatever he told you,
01:28:53.600and he and i'll read his statement as we reached out to him and this yeah y'all yacobi literally
01:29:00.080nobody knows who you are y'all um but in any event we reached out for a statement and they may be
01:29:06.480denying it but i mean this is explicit he denied it strongly to me um but i think he has a lot of
01:29:12.520i think he needs to answer a lot of questions not just to me but to the american people i look
01:29:16.340forward to his lawsuit if somebody printed this about me that i actually was unleashing a foreign
01:29:22.040country's influence campaign in this. I would sue their asses so fast. It would make your head spin0.99
01:29:28.320so fast. And honestly, like if Brad Parscale, if what they wrote about you is untrue,
01:29:34.780you should sue Time magazine right now. We will cover it fully and you can come on this show and
01:29:40.200you can tell us all about how they disparaged you again. He knew you were coming on this program
01:29:45.300last night. He knows me. He's got my text number. He didn't call me. Why do you think that is,
01:29:50.960Alex, why do you think it has anything to do with my legal background or my intolerance for1.00
01:29:57.460fucking bullshit? Well, I actually encouraged him to go on your program. And I think you're0.99
01:30:03.120actually the one who made Brad Parscale famous in the first place. So ultimately, Megan, if he's in
01:30:09.820fact doing that, perhaps you're the reason why that there's an Israel influencer campaign that's
01:30:15.440taking place in America. No. And so all roads lead back to Megan. But look, I have a lot of.
01:30:23.640No, let's hope that's not true. I'm kidding. But I have a lot of concerns and questions still
01:30:27.760around what Brad is doing specifically with that money. And I don't think that the reporter at
01:30:33.860Time magazine would have lied. Eric Cordalessa, I think he's a left leaning guy, but I also don't
01:30:40.480think he's a dishonest person necessarily. He's interviewed the president for multiple cover
01:30:44.900stories. And he seems to be well-sourced in the administration. And he spoke to senior U.S.
01:30:53.360intelligence officials for that piece as well. So I'm not on here saying that I think Brad Parscale
01:31:00.040is innocent and doing anything wrong. I'm just repeating that. He denied it to me. He said that
01:31:05.680he's focusing on text messages. But you played the Bibi clip earlier. It is evident that Bibi
01:31:12.780acted on those comments and those remarks that the battlefield is now on x and on tiktok
01:31:20.080there has been a major influx of coordinated pro-israel content by american content creators
01:31:28.580who's paying them that is the great mystery but it's absolutely happening and so i think it's
01:31:36.820important to to at least call out that this paid operation is taking place i also want to for the
01:31:43.100record state that israel is not the only country doing this a lot of countries participate in these
01:31:49.060types of campaigns and activities i'm against them all and i call them all out it's just the numbers
01:31:54.820i saw just correct me if i'm wrong alex but our information is it's just the the amount like
01:31:59.260there's there was one um gosh i pulled it here i have so much information on this so i'm just
01:32:05.300swimming in a sea of info there was one that's paying um another company i always do uh 60 grand
01:32:12.300a month um which is a pretty good nut but it's pales in comparison to what the israelis are
01:32:18.740paying hold on a second i'm gonna find it page six standby lots of info here it is um yeah it's
01:32:27.180that the Israeli government, no, no, sorry. Saudi Arabia pays Ballard, which is another group,
01:32:36.640one of the most connected firms in Trump's Washington, 60,000 bucks a month. So that's
01:32:42.92060 grand. The Wall Street Journal reported that as it was reporting that Brad Parscale got $40
01:32:47.780million in lobbying from the Israelis. Yeah, that Saudi Arabia pays one of the most connected firms
01:32:55.700in Washington, 60 grand a month, which, I mean, Brad Parscale is getting millions, millions a
01:33:01.860month. It just pales in comparison. Yeah, it's no doubt. Brad's contract with Israel is a record
01:33:07.320setting contract. It is the largest FAR contract for one entity in history, almost by a few
01:33:16.720multiples. So it's quite substantial. It's quite large. And there's great mystery around specifically
01:33:22.820how he's allocating that cash. What he told me was it's strictly on text messages. I've actually
01:33:29.020encouraged him to come on your program and, and have a conversation with you about it. Maybe he
01:33:33.900will, probably he won't, but I told him he should have a conversation with you and at least open up
01:33:39.020the American people. But, but, but he should, because unlike, unlike him, I have always been
01:33:44.540very good to Brad Parscale. I truly have always been very good to him and I've been an admirer
01:33:50.420of his. But there is no question that he is meddling now in American elections on behalf
01:33:56.420of Israel. He's disclosed it. It's undoubtable. I mean, it's all there black and white in writing
01:34:04.360from him. And perhaps he's behind all the influencers targeting Tucker, J.D. Vance,
01:34:12.840the Trump administration on this MOU, not to mention yours truly. I guess there's a chance
01:34:18.260he's not, but it's all certainly very coincidental that Netanyahu made his intentions clear.
01:34:24.060They reached out to you. You rejected them. Brad gets hired that very same month of September.
01:34:28.920That's the same month that some of these folks started attacking me for playing those Charlie
01:34:32.580soundbites. It's never led up thereafter. And this same network that that comments universally in the
01:34:40.620same words on any issue that touches Israel is the same group of people that's been ripping all
01:34:47.880those individuals i just named right here's jd vance with a little bit more uh on joe rogan
01:34:53.680in sat seven and like i should be clear um you know like i don't actually mind i don't mind
01:35:03.820that the you know let's say certain elements of the israeli government want to criticize the deal
01:35:12.140or have disagreements about the deal. I don't even mind an effort to try to influence, you know,
01:35:19.160foreign governments try to influence the United States all the time. You know, Israel does it,
01:35:22.880other countries do it. It's just sort of the nature of the beast. What bothers me is actually0.91
01:35:28.800when Americans allow, meaning American leadership, allows that influence to affect their judgment
01:35:36.800and to affect what they are advocating for.
01:36:00.160many of the people who were receiving that money
01:36:01.960were actually attacking me in completely dishonest ways.0.99
01:36:05.700you know, my response to that is, well, go to hell. I'm going to do what I have to do for the0.99
01:36:09.520American people. I represent Americans first. And that's the way that I've tried to do this job.
01:36:17.240Right on. I mean, he couldn't said it better myself. Your thoughts on that?
01:36:22.260I think the vice president is an incredibly effective messenger. I think he's spot on
01:36:25.860with his comments related to that. I think it's quite troubling if politicians are changing
01:36:35.400the way that they vote or their beliefs based on what they see on social media because of
01:36:42.080how manipulated social media has become.
01:36:45.960And I've actually had meetings with the Republican Study Committee and other large organizations
01:36:52.220in Congress telling them to be very careful about overreacting to pressure campaigns online.
01:37:01.260if you see certain influencers tweeting about certain issues, you can assume that there's
01:37:07.000funding behind it. If a random influencer who has never tweeted about, say, a farm bill before
01:37:13.020is very learned in the ins and outs of a text related to a farm bill, you can probably assume
01:37:22.120that that is coming from a place that is inorganic. And so I think that a lot of these
01:37:30.140social media campaigns have been successful in the past. I'm sure foreign countries have been
01:37:35.480successful in the past at using these types of tactics. But I'm raising awareness about it now
01:37:43.920because I think it's gone too far. And we cannot allow people, specifically people in power,
01:37:51.800to be swayed by manipulated talking points on social media. I don't want to see it change the
01:37:57.980way people vote. I don't want to see a change the way people talk about issues, because there's a
01:38:04.440lot of powerful people who are very focused on what's happening on X. And it's quite easy to
01:38:13.780manipulate public perception on that platform. And so I'm very grateful that the vice president
01:38:19.280raised awareness about it on the biggest podcast in the world. And I think it was a very important
01:38:24.860discussion. I think there'll be continuing discussions around these types of influence
01:38:30.060campaigns over the course of the next couple of months. Me too. You mark my words. There will be
01:38:36.760a lawsuit at some point by someone and all of it will come out. We'll know all of it. They can't
01:38:42.920keep it a secret. It's just, there's too many ways of tracing it. You get these people under oath at
01:38:48.760a deposition and it's a totally different ball game. And that'll be great because we should know
01:38:53.620We should absolutely know who's engaging in this campaign of harassment, defamation, and destruction, attempted destruction, including of the vice president of the United States in particular.
01:39:08.640But the president himself has come under this, not to mention others.
01:39:12.860So, Alex, I think you're doing the Lord's work.
01:39:15.180And I've been a fan long before you were speaking out about this, as you know.
01:39:19.240And I really appreciate your friendship with Charlie and some of the stories you've told me behind the scenes. Seems like you two were close and shared a lot as you were up and coming with no followers and built both of your empires brick by brick. I admire you. All the best.
01:46:31.780of the kind of dishonest squirreliness
01:46:34.120you would expect from these influencers.
01:46:36.420I have never received a dime from the Israeli, American, or any government, nor was I paid to ask basic questions about the MOU.
01:46:49.560Okay, what Time reports is that they, you heard it, that they're in these private chat groups with Parscale or his groups, and that the messaging is then suggested.
01:46:59.300And if they want to tweet that and can generate a certain, if you read the whole Time Magazine
01:47:04.240piece, it lays it out, a certain number of likes or supporting comments, et cetera, they