The Megyn Kelly Show - The TRUTH About Foreign Influence Campaigns in America, on Social Media and Beyond, with Alex Bruesewitz ｜ Ep. 1362

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00:01:00.520 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:01:12.200 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, and happy Friday.

00:01:16.060 We have a lot to get into today, including a bombshell Time magazine piece

00:01:19.760 about foreign influence and social media. This thing has taken the internet by storm,

00:01:25.740 and is behind one of the most viral moments between Vice President J.D. Vance and Joe Rogan

00:01:31.320 this week. Basically, we have, excuse me, a foreign country trying to interfere in the 1.00

00:01:39.260 American body politic. If you go on X, if you go on Instagram, if you go on TikTok, 1.00

00:01:44.680 you're being manipulated by Israel. They're not the only ones, but boy, they are the biggest. 0.98

00:01:51.820 That seems clear.

00:01:53.780 They're spending tens of millions of dollars to influence how you think.

00:01:58.640 If you have doubts about Israel's presence in America, about if you're skeptical about

00:02:04.220 just how much influence they should have over American politics and the congressman you

00:02:08.740 elect to serve your home district to worry about your pocketbook, you're an anti-Semite.

00:02:14.840 That's the campaign that they are unleashing.

00:02:17.760 They cloak it in the, oh, we're just trying to fight anti-Semitism lie.

00:02:22.780 That's not it.

00:02:24.040 They're trying to destroy anyone who raises questions about Israeli influence in America

00:02:28.800 over our president or when it comes to this Iran war. 0.97

00:02:32.700 It's disgusting. 1.00

00:02:34.100 Go worry about your own fucking politics and get out of the United States, okay? 1.00

00:02:41.060 This show has called out the Palestinians for their propaganda campaign from the start. 1.00

00:02:46.400 We are not under any delusions about how good Hamas is at propaganda. 0.98

00:02:52.300 We get it.

00:02:52.960 We've reported on it extensively.

00:02:55.460 However, there are select few programs and journalists or influencers who will be honest

00:03:03.800 about what Israel is doing. 0.97

00:03:06.220 And this is one of them.

00:03:07.840 So they don't get a pass just because they're an ally, because in many ways, they're not

00:03:12.600 behaving like it.

00:03:14.280 Look, they care about themselves.

00:03:16.400 I get it. We're supposed to care about ourselves. We're not supposed to be unleashing influence

00:03:22.220 campaigns against American citizens who have genuine good faith doubts about foreign policy

00:03:30.660 and the direction we're going. Israel shouldn't be able to manipulate American citizens with all 0.98

00:03:39.540 of its money in that way, but that's what it's doing. And they're using a guy who helped get 0.89

00:03:46.120 Trump elected in 2016. His name is Brad Parscale. We've told you about him before. This happens to

00:03:52.840 be a guy with whom I've had a very good relationship for many years. That is until I

00:03:57.740 expressed my own doubts about Israel's role in our politics and its influence over our foreign

00:04:06.620 affairs excursions. And then you'll be shocked, shocked to learn I appeared to have come within 0.64

00:04:12.920 the crosshairs of this man as well. But it's not about me. It's about many, many people on the

00:04:18.240 right who've expressed doubts on this issue. Israel no longer has majority support among

00:04:24.340 the country at all. All independents have turned against them. Virtually all Democrats have turned

00:04:30.080 against them. Virtually all young Republicans have turned against them. And by young, I mean

00:04:34.320 under 50. And now their approval rating in the over 50 crowd is waning. So it's a very large

00:04:44.580 group of Americans whom they'd have to target if they really want to turn around sentiment

00:04:49.020 on their behavior. And it's happening. And the galling part is they are using one of our own.

00:04:57.680 They're using an American conservative who helped get Trump elected in 2016, but hasn't spoken to

00:05:04.020 the president in six years. He's out. He's out now to do it. The White House is also now under

00:05:10.560 attack, reportedly from this guy, because he's pissed that they tried to settle the Iran war.

00:05:19.380 Trump tried in good faith to settle this thing with a memorandum of understanding.

00:05:24.900 And what happened? This guy used his little influencer army to attack the president. Now,

00:05:31.260 he's denying it, but it's obvious. And you don't have to believe me on any of this. Believe our

00:05:40.500 vice president. Believe J.D. Vance, who went on Joe Rogan and talked all about it based on this

00:05:46.360 in-depth Time magazine piece that outed a large part of this operation. We have been telling you

00:05:53.560 about this operation for quite some time. We told you about Brad Parscale. We told you he was getting

00:05:57.940 paid tens of millions. And we told you that there was an Israeli influence operation paying

00:06:02.480 some influencers as much as $7,000 a tweet. They mocked us. Oh, it's not true. Oh, you're

00:06:08.820 paranoid. It's true. It's true. Just Google it. I mean, it's all over the internet. This isn't

00:06:14.700 some figment of our imagination. We don't do that on this show, unlike so many others out there.

00:06:19.580 So it's just absurd. It's absurd what's going on. And it's deeply immoral. And I don't want

00:06:27.640 any foreign influence in our body politic. I really don't. I don't want the Palestinians 1.00

00:06:32.120 manipulating me and I don't want the Israelis manipulating me either. And if they're going to 0.99

00:06:37.840 use American citizens to do it, those American citizens should not only be required to register

00:06:43.280 under the Foreign Agent Registrations Act, which this guy Brad Parscale has done for his almost

00:06:49.460 $50 million a year he's getting from Israel to manipulate you. But they should have to disclose

00:06:57.180 exactly whom they're paying is that's where the system has been falling apart. He's paying tons

00:07:01.980 of influencers to do his dirty work, but he doesn't have to disclose exactly whom. So all

00:07:06.620 these others can say, oh, this is just my genuinely held good faith opinion. Bullshit. 1.00

00:07:12.860 Bull, let me see your tax returns. Let's see you disclose that you are being paid Israeli money. 1.00

00:07:20.360 Now we've gotten these milquetoast statements from some of them we're going to talk about today,

00:07:24.700 like, oh, I've never accepted money from Israel. Right. I know you got it from Brad Parscale who 0.73

00:07:29.720 got it from Israel and possibly from others. Again, they're denying that. But we'll show you

00:07:35.520 the evidence. So this is a situation in which we find ourselves where we now no longer have to

00:07:41.300 worry just about American super PACs with endless money, bottomless pockets who are out there

00:07:49.100 constantly trying to manipulate your opinion, but foreign, foreign influences who have decided that

00:07:56.340 whom whatever American can be bought and paid for are their quote, best weapons against whom

00:08:05.920 against, against us, against their fellow Americans. So it's a problem. All right,

00:08:12.200 we're going to get to it because president Trump himself last night at the white house

00:08:16.840 was lamenting foreign actors trying to influence American politics.

00:08:24.260 He was focused on China, among others and issues, talking about how China has been carrying out what

00:08:32.300 the president called the largest compromise of American election data in history. All these

00:08:38.580 foreign actors want to manipulate you at the ballot box. They don't care that you can't pay 1.00

00:08:45.760 your gas bill, that you can't pay your mortgage, that your credit card interest rates are well

00:08:52.600 into the double digits.

00:08:54.320 They only care about themselves and they will do what is necessary to push the American

00:09:00.720 electorate one way or another.

00:09:02.500 And what the president was saying about China was deeply disturbing.

00:09:05.780 I mean, he got hit from a lot of corners for sort of building this thing up and then it

00:09:09.780 sounded like recycled information.

00:09:11.260 And to some extent, that was true, but it wasn't all recycled information.

00:09:16.180 I mean, it was great, frankly, to hear the president of the United States zero in on China and its constant spying on us and attempted manipulations of American citizens.

00:09:29.880 I mean, the foreign influence conversation when it comes to election integrity is a really important conversation.

00:09:40.520 It's just, it's about China and it's about Israel and it's about so many others.

00:09:45.860 And we just have to be super honest about this.

00:09:48.020 I'm just sick of being manipulated.

00:09:51.340 Disclosures are required.

00:09:52.560 And when it comes to China, because they don't disclose anything, they just do it surreptitiously 0.86

00:09:58.180 and our spy agencies catch them. 0.71

00:10:00.020 And then they reported up the line and then we do nothing.

00:10:02.780 We do nothing.

00:10:04.380 The president reported that they'd been spying on the Joe Biden campaign, trying to manipulate

00:10:07.980 them.

00:10:08.400 not to mention the Trump campaign trying to undermine them and everybody. And then he

00:10:13.780 reported that our own intelligence agencies kept it from him, kept it from President Trump when he

00:10:19.420 was the sitting president about what had been done to him. OK, this is all totally unacceptable.

00:10:26.380 And the mainstream media would tell you it's not a big deal. Who cares? All this is just Trump being

00:10:29.980 his paranoid self by the 2020 election without actually examining the claims, the extraordinary

00:10:36.320 claims that he's making. Why don't we care? I, for one, think we should care. I don't care who

00:10:41.680 it is. I don't care what the foreign country is, you know, friend or foe. We need to, at a minimum, 0.99

00:10:48.560 shine some sunlight on it so it stops or so Americans are aware and they can discount

00:10:56.120 certain messages that just also happen to reflect so beautifully on said country.

00:11:03.020 Oh, maybe you're being manipulated.

00:11:06.680 You know, I think we've all, for example, gotten to the point where there's a healthy dose of skepticism

00:11:11.180 when you get some number on casualties from the Hamas information of health over there in Gaza. 0.79

00:11:17.720 All right, we know not to trust them. 0.94

00:11:20.660 Now, when the Israelis say that we've had 60,000 dead in Gaza, tens of thousands of whom are civilians, 0.99

00:11:28.540 I believe them because they have an interest in downplaying those numbers.

00:11:32.040 but they've they've put that number out there okay but we need to get more skeptical beyond that

00:11:37.560 well beyond that and when it comes to China I think the problem is much bigger we just have

00:11:42.920 to fight back against them we have to stop all the spying we don't appear inclined to actually

00:11:48.520 punish them for what they're doing because we're so dependent on them for things like

00:11:52.240 rare earth minerals which President Trump is trying to fight in a different way he's trying

00:11:56.700 to shore up our abilities to to mine those so that we're not so dependent on them but

00:12:01.880 Last night was a good first step.

00:12:04.100 You know, sunlight being the best disinfectant again.

00:12:07.120 So joining me today is somebody who has been sounding the alarm on this issue at every turn.

00:12:12.320 So much so that now some people whose names you will recognize are calling for him to be fired as a top Trump advisor.

00:12:22.200 He's a first time guest on this show.

00:12:24.080 His name is Alex Brujewicz.

00:12:26.300 And Alex is a political advisor for President Trump.

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00:13:28.400 Alex, welcome to the show.

00:13:30.560 Megan, what an opening. Thank you for having me.

00:13:33.660 All right, so where am I going wrong?

00:13:35.360 Well, it was quite in-depth, and I'm looking forward to our conversation around that.

00:13:42.240 And thank you for mentioning President Trump's historic speech last night, highlighting the foreign influence in the 2020 election.

00:13:49.920 I think for starters, all of those, including myself, who had questions and concerns around the 2020 election, were vindicated last night by the president's speech.

00:13:59.300 I think we've been vindicated over the years through all of the different pieces of evidence that have come out.

00:14:03.940 I think people like former SISA head Chris Krebs, who went on television right after the 2020 election and said that the 2020 election was the most secure election in history, should probably be questioned and investigated for why he was so quick to spread those claims.

00:14:22.940 And the president has been very passionate about this since the beginning.

00:14:28.080 A lot of people have told him to move on, but I don't think it's important.

00:14:31.780 I don't think he should move on.

00:14:32.840 I think that the American people deserve to know what takes place in their elections, who's influencing what, what countries are involved.

00:14:40.980 And the information that was released yesterday about the 220 million voter files being accessed by the CCP, that's quite troubling.

00:14:49.040 And every American should be concerned about that.

00:14:51.680 But it's important to note that China isn't the only country that meddles in our elections.

00:14:56.960 And there's different ways that you can meddle.

00:14:59.120 There's ways that you can use social media, accessing voter files.

00:15:03.420 And I think that it's very important that we get to the bottom of what took place in 2020 so it never happens again.

00:15:08.720 And this administration seems to be the only administration that cares about tackling foreign influence and securing American elections.

00:15:17.820 And so I think every American should support them.

00:15:20.040 And I also want to note that last night, ABC and NBC refused to air the president's primetime address, which was rare.

00:15:30.200 I don't think that cable television networks like them have ever refused to air a primetime address before.

00:15:38.880 And I'm a believer in a very important quote, Megan.

00:15:42.440 It's called, democracy dies in darkness.

00:15:45.340 And I heard that all day, every day, for years and years during the president's first term.

00:15:49.880 And to be honest, I'm a believer in that.

00:15:51.480 I think it's very important to shed light on things that are taking place in our country.

00:15:55.020 And last night, ABC and NBC threatened democracy, in my opinion, by refusing to air the president's

00:16:00.760 speech. 0.97

00:16:01.860 It's ridiculous. 0.96

00:16:03.320 And I think CBS cut away and CNN said they weren't going to air it until they had the 0.82

00:16:08.840 ability to fact check it.

00:16:10.320 this is like this babysitting of the commander in chief is so galling be be a grown-up if you

00:16:17.820 have fact checks that you want to do you do them afterward that's how presidential fact checks

00:16:23.900 have always worked in journalism right they treat president trump like he's a toddler

00:16:28.600 who and and all of us like we're toddlers right like we if we just hear the information

00:16:35.160 something terrible has happened to us and we can never get the information out of our head

00:16:40.260 with counter information or evaluate competing claims. We just we have to be shielded from the

00:16:45.860 words coming out of the president's mouth, notwithstanding the fact that majority of this

00:16:49.900 country elected this man to be our president and to speak to us directly from time to time. It's

00:16:55.460 it's galling, as I said. Absolutely. And one of the core promises that he campaigned on was

00:16:59.860 securing American elections. And he promised to raise awareness about what took place in 2020.

00:17:06.600 And the NBC and ABC and those networks didn't wait to fact check Chris Krebs' claims when

00:17:13.560 he was on television saying that the election was the most secure ever in history.

00:17:17.700 And so they seem to only want to wait to fact check one side of the argument, which I think

00:17:22.660 is quite troubling.

00:17:24.100 So perhaps they don't want to secure American elections.

00:17:28.740 As the president said yesterday, the only reason that Congress wouldn't want to pass

00:17:32.900 the Save America Act would be because they want to cheat. And certain elements in our country

00:17:39.720 want to cheat. Perhaps the mainstream media also falls in that bucket. But I think the American

00:17:44.900 people, they overwhelmingly supported President Trump again. And one of his core messages on the

00:17:51.520 2024 campaign trail was securing American elections. And I'm confident that the administration

00:17:57.960 is about to do just that. Well, I think, you know, one of the theories is that the president was

00:18:04.620 doing all of this in order to ramp up support for the Save America Act amongst Congress. He doesn't

00:18:10.160 have to ramp it up amongst the American people. They already favor this thing. They favor secure

00:18:15.960 elections and voter ID. Like it's something like an 80 plus percent issue. I actually think it's

00:18:22.000 over 90 percent of the american uh public who want to see voter id universally and yet you wouldn't

00:18:32.240 know that if you looked at the response to the save america act in congress they treat it like

00:18:37.440 it's not popular like something you know that there's going to be backlash against them if

00:18:42.400 they vote for it and it makes no sense whatsoever unless yeah as you point out they're in favor of

00:18:47.800 the cheating. They want people who are not citizens to be voting. And that only favors

00:18:51.780 one party. Let me just give you one soundbite from the president last night.

00:18:55.940 Here he is in sought one on influence in our elections over a period of years,

00:19:02.920 starting during the 2020 election cycle, the People's Republic of China carried out what

00:19:09.220 is believed to be the largest compromise of election data in history, resulting in China's

00:19:16.200 elicit acquisition of 220 million U.S. voter files. That information includes names, addresses,

00:19:25.620 phone numbers, political party preferences, and other sensitive data that would be needed to

00:19:31.720 register to vote and engage in other nefarious activities, which is exactly what was happening.

00:19:39.400 This data loss presents an unprecedented election security nightmare.

00:19:44.020 okay now you would think the average american would say i don't want that i don't want the 1.00

00:19:51.140 chinese accessing my personal information to try to figure out how to manipulate me 0.96

00:19:56.580 but what if you read the papers today they're all like uh the chinese have had access to our emails 0.63

00:20:04.580 and our personal data for a long time that's the response alex there is not not nobody's like

00:20:11.440 thank God somebody's finally calling attention to this.

00:20:15.140 Right. And the president's been trying to raise awareness about this for almost six years now.

00:20:19.120 And that's been the response that the that the media has had since the beginning. They don't

00:20:23.200 want to look at what took place. They want to continue to dismiss the concerns of the American

00:20:28.300 people. They say that everyone or anyone who has questions related to the election are conspiracy

00:20:34.200 theorists or threats to democracy. But I truly believe that the threats to democracy are those

00:20:39.360 who refuse to want to get to the bottom of this, refuse to want to secure our elections.

00:20:44.820 The White House keeps hammering home the message that American elections should be

00:20:48.660 decided by Americans. I don't think that's a controversial opinion. I think that is a

00:20:52.200 common sense opinion. They must want to cheat because the point is simply if you're if you're

00:20:58.340 against cracking down on the CCP, accessing America's private information, what would be

00:21:03.780 the reason why like that. Why would Democrats be in favor of that? Well, the answer is they're not.

00:21:10.140 It's just once you lift the dress up a little on election integrity, now you're on your way to the

00:21:15.600 Save Act, which they really oppose. And the reason they oppose it was espoused explicitly by Michigan

00:21:23.440 Democratic Senator Elise Slotkin this week. Listen to her. The other thing that we blocked yesterday

00:21:29.800 was the SAVE Act, right? Which was literally allow this administration to rig our democracy

00:21:43.600 so that it would be hard for any Democrat in any state to win any election and disenfranchise 1.00

00:21:49.620 all married women in the meantime, by the way. You'd have to show your birth certificate at 1.00

00:21:54.180 the polls if you have a married name. So there it is. She uses the word rig, but she's basically

00:21:59.860 saying if we pass the Save America Act, we'll never win again. We Democrats will never win

00:22:04.480 again because of course it would lead to a cleanup of the voting rolls. Yeah, I don't think she was 0.66

00:22:09.880 supposed to say that part out loud. I think that the Democrat leadership was probably upset with

00:22:14.000 her that she said it. And she doesn't seem to be the strongest candidate. I mean, she's trailing

00:22:18.100 Mike Rogers right now in that Senate race. But I'm grateful that she said it. It's a perfect

00:22:22.660 campaign ad because it's exactly what the Democrats believe. It's also why the Democrats

00:22:26.880 fight us on the census. We don't want to count illegal aliens in the census. And the Democrats 1.00

00:22:33.020 think that's an outrage because it helps them with certain seats in California or Illinois or New

00:22:39.700 York. And so their whole game is not a fair game. And I think that they're upset now because

00:22:47.100 the American people are wise to it. They're paying attention to it. And as you mentioned,

00:22:51.800 the Save America Act is an 80, 20, maybe 90, 10 issue. And I'm hopeful that the Republican

00:22:59.320 Senate will do the right thing and get it done. We shall see. The administration's pushing hard

00:23:03.640 on it. But Slack can give away the game there. They need illegals and certain elements of

00:23:10.480 manipulation to win elections. And we cannot allow that to continue in our country. And that's

00:23:15.780 why I'm very supportive of what President Trump is doing and what he did last night.

00:23:18.960 yeah she's not running against rogers they're trying to figure out who's going to run against

00:23:24.540 rogers um but she's already oh i forget seat unfortunately but she's the one alex i don't

00:23:30.480 know if you remember but when pete hegseth was going through his confirmation hearing she's she 0.73

00:23:35.400 was literally the most annoying person in the room and and that room included maizey hirono 0.96

00:23:41.020 okay so it's saying something exactly right yeah i mean it's actually kind of impressive but she

00:23:46.480 was like, I know you've done your genuflection to President Trump. She was speaking down to him

00:23:53.020 like he was a nothing. And his three tours of duty were meaningless to her or that she was

00:23:59.880 somehow equivalent to him because she'd served in the CIA. Okay, look, I find you can serve in the

00:24:06.260 CIA, respect your service, but please don't lecture an actual combat veteran about what it's

00:24:12.960 like to be a member in the active duty military she was insufferable so there she is as you say

00:24:19.060 saying the quiet part out loud all right so let's turn to this time magazine piece the vice president

00:24:24.520 went on with joe rogan uh this week and he he called attention to this and uh here's him doing

00:24:31.260 that in part and sought six i definitely think you have seen this very discreet extremely well

00:24:38.220 funded campaign to try to derail the negotiation and try to derail the deal. And, you know, there

00:24:45.360 was again, there's this time article that came out yesterday, a friend sent it to me. It's like

00:24:49.900 worth reading, because it lists a bunch of people who have quite literally been paid by a former

00:24:57.920 Trump campaign person who was himself paid by certain elements within the Israeli government.

00:25:03.960 And those people are attacking me viciously for quite literally trying to accomplish the negotiation objective that the president set for the country.

00:25:12.800 So what is their position?

00:25:14.080 Like, are they attacking you?

00:25:15.140 How?

00:25:15.660 Oh, it's it's social media posts.

00:25:18.220 It's you know, they're leaking to reporters.

00:25:20.140 They're attacking me obsessively saying that we should not be negotiating with Iran.

00:25:25.320 We should just keep the military campaign going indefinitely.

00:25:28.600 And that is that is their explicit position.

00:25:31.060 so this this is a reference to this time magazine piece which which focuses in on

00:25:38.860 brad parscale and brad parscale was in part responsible for getting trump elected in 2016

00:25:44.900 he worked for ivanka he was promoting her social media through social media her brands and things

00:25:50.980 like that and then he got sort of drafted over if memory serves uh into working for the trump

00:25:55.480 campaign and he was selling merch. And he I interviewed him a few times while at Fox and he

00:26:01.280 talked about how he noticed on the merch sales that Trump was really trending in certain areas

00:26:10.100 that they didn't expect to see as the Trump campaign. And they would then redirect their

00:26:15.540 efforts or send the candidate himself to these towns where he would gin up unexpected support

00:26:21.480 in swing states or get sort of the voting couch potatoes off the couch because they could tell

00:26:27.560 that they were motivated. They were buying Trump merch and so on for the first time.

00:26:30.300 And sure enough, Trump won. So he had a hand in that, no question. And he knows what he's doing

00:26:35.180 when it comes to social media manipulation. Then came 2020 and he was helping the Trump campaign

00:26:41.900 then, and it was going less well. And ultimately he got fired from the campaign in 2020. And then

00:26:47.940 he had a personal crisis that made the news. And Brad Parscale has a bit of an unfortunate history.

00:26:56.340 You're probably even too young to remember this, Alex, because you're very young. But

00:27:01.320 the police were called to Brad's home down in Florida. There's videotape of it. And his wife

00:27:09.400 accused him of beating her. She would later recant the allegations, but the police were called to

00:27:14.980 the scene and would report on the bruises that they found on his wife. I'll just read it to you.

00:27:22.080 This is a political article from September of 2020. Author Timothy Skaggs reported seeing bruises

00:27:26.960 on Candace Parscale's arms, which she said had occurred a few days ago during a physical 0.64

00:27:30.320 altercation with her husband. Stephen Smith, a SWAT team member who responded to the residence,

00:27:34.400 said in his report that when I asked how she received the bruising, Candace Parscale stated, 0.91

00:27:39.400 Brad Parscale hits her. When asked if he made the markings today, she said no,

00:27:43.500 that it had happened a couple of days ago but she said today he did forcibly smack her phone

00:27:47.980 out of her hand when she was attempting to call brad parscale's father they report that he lost

00:27:53.120 his job as trump's campaign manager in july amid questions about his leadership and the failed

00:27:59.080 optics of one of trump's campaign rallies um they had they found they reported to the house

00:28:05.400 in the midst of this uh because he was having a mental health issue and was threatening suicide

00:28:12.460 reportedly he was ranting he was pacing according to candace she heard what she thought was a gun

00:28:18.820 shot she was afraid he had shot himself she later concluded he had not because he continued to hear

00:28:23.480 she continued to hear him ranting and pacing through the house they showed up uh they found

00:28:28.520 him wearing only a pair of shorts wearing and holding what appeared to be a beer being thrown

00:28:32.960 to the ground by police after he agreed to come outside with a gun there's videotape of part of

00:28:37.680 this here it is came back out of his office like caught his hand and went back to the side and so

00:28:45.240 then i saw him i saw him like open the blinds in the front yard and then he closed him and then i

00:28:51.080 heard what i thought was a gunshot to the ground man i didn't do anything i didn't do anything

00:29:00.440 So he was, according to the wife, talking about shooting himself,

00:29:16.180 that he drinks and suffers from some sort of PTSD.

00:29:20.640 He was committed to a hospital under Florida's Baker Act after this.

00:29:27.720 And so I feel for Brad Parscale.

00:29:30.240 he's had he's had some troubles and i understand that a lot of a lot of people have troubles these

00:29:35.120 are pretty extraordinary ones again to reiterate that candace took back her allegations of abuse

00:29:40.040 notwithstanding what the police reported after speaking with her on site um so brad parscale

00:29:45.620 and i always got along he went on to become a senior executive at salem media which is

00:29:50.960 the company that produces uh i think hugh hewitt's podcast um who else did they do alex uh oh scott

00:29:58.940 Jennings, right? His show, um, town hall with Katie Pavlich. They, they own that, uh, publication,

00:30:06.420 I believe red state. So big and conservative media and amazingly, like stunningly to me,

00:30:12.760 I have to say, this is the same guy who now has taken $45 million a year from Israel in order to

00:30:22.300 peddle the Israeli interests into American politics. And if those conflict with the agenda

00:30:29.620 of his former boss, Donald Trump, so be it. Yes. So I want to remark quickly on the incident that

00:30:39.900 took place in 2020. I don't want to get in the mud or or or make certain personal remarks around

00:30:46.460 him. I believe he he went through some personal traumatic experiences during that time. And so

00:30:51.940 the claims of PTSD, I do believe. He tragically lost his two children shortly after they were

00:30:59.560 born. And so I can only imagine how difficult that was. And I don't want to excuse any of the

00:31:07.540 behavior that he's been accused of. But I also do want to highlight that I genuinely believe he's

00:31:14.120 become a Christian. He stopped drinking. And as a Christian, I do not hold his past allegations

00:31:21.780 and accusations against him.

00:31:24.480 However-

00:31:25.240 Nor do I, Alex, and I've been defensive

00:31:26.860 of Brad Parscale for 10 years.

00:31:29.460 However, it is a piece of his story

00:31:31.340 and it's relevant because he's had some serious troubles.

00:31:34.500 And honestly, to give such a man $50 million almost

00:31:38.420 to work on behalf of a foreign country

00:31:40.660 is potentially a reckless move. 0.99

00:31:42.600 And I think we're seeing the results of that right now

00:31:44.600 in our politics.

00:31:46.240 I really do.

00:31:46.840 I think Brad Parscale, in my opinion,

00:31:49.020 is now working to divide Americans from one another.

00:31:51.780 when he should be working to unite us as opposed to helping get the president elected and pursue

00:31:56.380 his agenda the way he did in 2016 and tried to in 2020. He now is appears to be undermining

00:32:03.660 the president's agenda with this influence campaign if it if it doesn't dovetail with

00:32:09.280 what Israel wants. And we are divided from Israel right now. At the moment, we're picking this war

00:32:16.880 back up with Iran. But Israel's been all over President Trump for the past month as he tries

00:32:20.620 to put this war to bed. So in the same way that Brad Parscale and his influencer campaign wouldn't

00:32:26.520 hesitate to try to destroy you or me or anyone who speaks up against Israel, we're going to get

00:32:31.460 really clear on Brad Parscale's issues to unabashedly and unafraid. Well, it certainly is

00:32:38.100 your program. And and so, as you've mentioned, this is the largest far a contract in history,

00:32:46.200 this $50 million contract that has gone to Brad's firm, which is unique given the fact that he has

00:32:51.880 never had prior lobbying experience. And again, he also doesn't have a relationship with President

00:32:59.100 Trump. The Time Magazine article I found to be quite damning and the Wall Street Journal backed

00:33:05.500 up similar statements and ended up. So I think the Time Magazine piece said he got paid $1.5

00:33:12.760 million a month. The Wall Street Journal the next day said it's been actually closer to $45 million

00:33:17.860 that he's been paid, which makes it the largest contract for one entity in FARA history.

00:33:22.980 And I've been pretty critical of this contract. I have been probably for the past month because

00:33:29.140 I have a lot of questions around it. If you read the initial draft contract

00:33:34.620 on FARA's website between his firm, Clocktower X, and an organization out of Germany called

00:33:42.040 Havis Media Group, it showcases a set of deliverables. And some of those deliverables

00:33:48.280 include language that is reminiscent of the language that he puts in contracts for his

00:33:54.680 influencer marketing campaigns, including the guaranteed of 50 million impressions,

00:34:00.340 thousands and thousands of pieces of content being delivered each month.

00:34:04.960 And I had a lot of questions and concerns around another part of language in there that said he's

00:34:10.360 going to integrate narrative messaging into Salem media properties. And so I've been raising

00:34:16.400 awareness about this. I was on Tucker Carlson's podcast, which I had a unique response from

00:34:22.580 certain people online. And I've been raising awareness about this. I've been asking Brad,

00:34:28.220 can you please provide some transparency around what you're actually doing with this money?

00:34:32.460 and Brad has denied that he's been paid to undermine the administration's efforts on social

00:34:41.440 media, specifically related to opposing the MOU. And he's denied it in the Time article.

00:34:49.720 He denied it on social media. And actually last night he called me. I think he learned that I was

00:34:55.840 coming on your program and he called me. And again, he denied it to me. We ended up speaking

00:35:01.400 for a substantial period of time, and we discussed kind of the ins and outs of the

00:35:09.220 contract. He said that after submitting that initial contract to the nation of Israel,

00:35:17.600 he learned that he actually couldn't deliver those services. He said that he can't legally

00:35:24.660 integrate messaging into Salem Properties. He said if he were to pay influencers through this

00:35:33.460 Habes Media Group contract, he would need to disclose every single payment made.

00:35:39.480 And he said that through this particular contract with the nation of Israel,

00:35:44.880 he has not paid influencers. So I said, well, Brad, can you understand why people would have

00:35:50.700 questions related to your draft contract because there's no other contract out. And he was obviously

00:35:57.640 understanding of where I was coming from. And I said, Brad, can you please explain to me the

00:36:02.520 services that you're providing? And he said, we are simply only doing SMS text messaging.

00:36:09.040 and so uh there's there's certain um there's there's certain texts that are going out to

00:36:19.820 americans uh on behalf of israel where they are they were supposed to be combating anti-semitism

00:36:28.300 but and i pushed back on brad on that i said brad well i received a text a couple of days ago

00:36:34.380 from your entity that was basically trying to coach Americans into supporting more of a prolonged

00:36:45.180 conflict. So how can how can you say that only your techs are your techs are only going to

00:36:52.180 combat anti-Semitism? And we had a back and forth discussion for about an hour.

00:36:57.960 He holds the position that he does not pay influencers through this contract.

00:37:04.380 So the Time Magazine piece is totally wrong. So he should sue them. I look forward to watching

00:37:09.160 his defamation last year. I'm not saying that the Time Magazine piece is totally wrong because the

00:37:10.980 Time Magazine piece- Well, no, no, no. If he's right, then the Time Magazine piece is wrong.

00:37:14.440 It doesn't actually, it also highlights that Brad has been paid by, and firms of his have been paid

00:37:21.740 by pro-Israel groups and pro-Israel influencers have been paid for pro-Israel content through

00:37:30.360 brad's firms just not necessarily through this contract uh and so brad can't so this is what

00:37:38.800 we call splitting hairs so i understand uh why people are confused i'm also confused by this

00:37:47.020 uh there was one influencer in particular who was identified in the time magazine piece his name's

00:37:53.520 Ayel Yacobi. And he was identified as one of the influencers who has been compensated

00:38:00.320 by Brad's firm in the past for promoting Israel-related issues, according to the Time

00:38:07.580 Magazine piece. And so I think there's a lot of transparency questions and concerns that are still

00:38:13.580 lingering. And just because I had a conversation with Brad last night,

00:38:18.560 It doesn't mean I'm going to pull off of this.

00:38:24.880 I'm very well aware that there is a heavily funded coordinated effort online to undermine efforts in the administration.

00:38:36.600 This heavily funded coordinated effort I've also been tracking for over a year because it's been used to attack voices on social media who were critical of the war.

00:38:48.560 Um, and, and, uh, I think that you are a target, uh, of this. Absolutely. I think Tucker was a

00:38:56.260 target of this. Absolutely. And to be honest, I have strongly disagreed with a lot of the things

00:39:02.380 that you have said and that Tucker has said. Um, but I also don't think it's right to have these

00:39:09.680 heavily funded, manipulated campaigns, uh, you know, trying to discredit you, uh, or attack you

00:39:17.040 on a regular basis. And so that's why I didn't speak out about it for the first year. And I'm

00:39:23.860 sorry about that. But again, I disagree with a lot of what you've said. But I spoke out about it

00:39:29.480 about a month ago after the vice president appeared on your program. And when the vice

00:39:35.560 president came on your program, all of these influencers who I've been tracking as part of

00:39:41.400 this coordinated effort, all pushed the same talking points. How, oh, the vice president's

00:39:48.200 great, but you can't talk to Meghan. This is a major mistake. And he kept talking over and over

00:39:53.580 again. And then shortly after that, all of these same influencers started attacking the president's

00:39:59.340 MOU. And so I asked Brad about that. And Brad agreed with me, and he's an expert on this,

00:40:06.840 that what we're witnessing is not organic.

00:40:10.440 He just says that he is not funding it through his contract with Israel.

00:40:18.200 And he admitted that he's paid folks like Iyel Yacobi,

00:40:22.880 but he said that they haven't been paid for some time.

00:40:26.260 So we're still deeply investigating this.

00:40:30.580 There's certainly money that's floating around.

00:40:32.880 And these influencers who are being compensated, I believe they're violating many CFTC laws by not being transparent around their compensation.

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00:42:35.020 the prime minister of israel has explicitly said that quote our influencers are their greatest

00:42:45.560 weapon yep and there's no question that the israeli government is depending on quote our

00:42:51.480 influencers to change American sentiment. It's interesting that Brad Parscale called you because

00:42:57.020 Brad Parscale has my number and we've been in touch via text and otherwise for years.

00:43:04.040 And in fact, the, uh, the last contact we had was in September, right after Charlie died,

00:43:12.700 when he reached out to me. And this is right around, I believe when he signed his deal to,

00:43:19.880 to to with israel to go do israel's bidding in american politics and he wanted to catch up

00:43:27.920 and it didn't happen and shortly thereafter it was uh september 16th i aired on this program

00:43:35.400 in the wake of charlie's death the fact that because there were questions about whether

00:43:40.560 israel could possibly have had anything to do with charlie's death and i wasn't weighing in on that

00:43:46.500 But I was weighing in on something that was immediately being debated, which is whether

00:43:51.460 Charlie was drifting from the pro-Israeli cause.

00:43:55.120 And I did have information on that because Charlie and I had spoken on August 6th.

00:44:00.940 So now we're September 16th.

00:44:03.540 He's been killed six days earlier.

00:44:05.200 And I played part of our interview in that show.

00:44:12.460 And this is right after Brad had just reached out to me.

00:44:15.720 And what happened? Some of those influencers immediately started attacking me.

00:44:20.280 Suddenly, suddenly I was otherized simply because I wanted to set the record straight on where Charlie was.

00:44:29.900 And I knew all of that, not from some secret gleaning of Charlie's mind, but because he was on camera with me saying it.

00:44:38.800 And I felt I owed it to him to replay for the audience what he actually felt, because it was right there in his own words. And from that point forward, this same cabal has been literally trying to destroy me in this show, and they have failed. They have utterly failed.

00:44:59.160 That is not a figment of your imagination. I want to make that clear. You have absolutely been the target of a well-coordinated online digital campaign, and that is not particularly fun. And I think that a lot of these people, they also don't have the president's best interests at mind or at heart.

00:45:16.700 And I think a lot of their attacks on you have maybe even pushed you away from the president more.

00:45:24.140 But those attacks aren't coming from our apparatus or our operation.

00:45:31.400 Oh, no, I know that.

00:45:32.240 There's been calls on me to disavow people like you or Tucker.

00:45:36.640 And I told Tucker to his face where I disagree with him because I have personal relationships with people.

00:45:43.660 If I have a personal relationship with someone, I'm not going to take to social media and call

00:45:48.300 them out online. I said the same thing about Laura Loomer on Tucker's podcast, and then Laura Loomer

00:45:52.740 decided to attack me, and I anticipate that she'll attack me over me appearing on you. And so I'm

00:45:58.140 probably not going to say that again about Loomer and lesson learned. But I still like her. I think

00:46:04.680 that she has a role to play in our movement. But I have that philosophy where if I know someone in

00:46:12.520 person. I'm not going to attack them on social media. And so you have been you have been the

00:46:17.720 target of one of these attacks. Tucker's been the target of these attacks. And I want to echo that

00:46:23.700 that Charlie when I I met Charlie when I was 17 in growing up in rural Wisconsin. He was growing

00:46:30.080 up in the Chicago suburbs. And I ended up starting a Turning Point USA chapter on my high school

00:46:36.960 campus. And Charlie sent me a box of buttons that said, big government sucks. And he sent me a bunch 0.99

00:46:42.920 of mini constitutions. And to be honest, I was a little too lazy to really dive deep in it. But it

00:46:48.800 was really at the infancy of what Charlie was doing with Turning Point USA. And so I've known

00:46:53.900 Charlie for a long time. And I've attended events with Charlie where the Prime Minister of Israel's

00:47:00.520 spoke at the Museum of the Bible in 2018 and 2019, Charlie used to be a major defender of

00:47:07.820 the pro-Israel cause. And I wouldn't say that Charlie became anti-Israel, but I believe that

00:47:15.220 Charlie had his finger on the pulse of the MAGA movement, perhaps better than anybody.

00:47:20.820 And he really understood where young people were going, perhaps better than anybody. And he was

00:47:26.120 picking up on the concerns that young people had with Israeli influence in our political system,

00:47:32.620 and he was raising awareness about it. And I actually had dinner with Charlie

00:47:37.080 four days before he was assassinated. And one of the topics of dinner actually happened to be

00:47:46.260 around foreign influence. And we were actually talking with a Korean woman who was like upset 1.00

00:47:53.660 because America doesn't care about everyday Korean issues.

00:47:58.600 And Charlie kind of riffed.

00:47:59.760 He's like, well, that's because Korea doesn't have a lobby.

00:48:03.340 And I was like, oh, that's a fascinating point.

00:48:06.360 And he's like, Israel, for example, has a great and effective lobby.

00:48:12.840 And Korea should potentially, if they're concerned about that,

00:48:16.000 why don't you emulate that?

00:48:17.020 And so, you know, Charlie understood the strength of the Israeli lobby, but he also understood that they were becoming a bit more unpopular with young people in our country for certain reasons.

00:48:33.460 And I don't believe Charlie was anti-Semitic.

00:48:38.020 I don't believe that Charlie had any hate in his heart for Israel, but he saw where it was going.

00:48:43.260 I consider myself an ally of Israel.

00:48:46.060 I've supported their country for as long as I've been in politics, and I still support their country today.

00:48:53.080 I just don't support certain actions of their government.

00:48:56.040 And one of the actions that I don't support is the attempts to influence American discourse online and through, you know, even text messaging.

00:49:08.000 And so I shared that with Brad.

00:49:10.380 I don't particularly like FAR contracts.

00:49:14.100 I don't take any foreign money.

00:49:16.060 I think that foreign money should be out of politics permanently.

00:49:20.440 And I'm aware that Israel has been trying to run influencer campaigns on social media since at least June of 2025 because somebody connected to the Israeli government personally texted me, the president's social media guy, asking if I would help them do a social network strategy related to Iran.

00:49:41.600 And I said, with all due respect, I can't get involved with this one because I don't do foreign work. And so they didn't hire me.

00:49:51.060 And correct me if I'm wrong, but it was three months after that, that Brad Parscale signed his deal with the Israelis, giving him forty five million dollars a year, according to The Wall Street Journal.

00:49:59.680 Correct. Correct. But also around that time, a group called Project Esther came out and they were paying influencers northwards of $7,000 per post.

00:50:14.160 No, no, no. I was universally mocked for saying that on this show, that this same group was out there mocking me at every turn saying I made that up out of whole cloth. You're telling me Project Esther was real.

00:50:24.800 It's real. And I wouldn't be shocked if some form of it is still alive today. And that was not run

00:50:32.520 through Brad's firm. So there. Yeah, no, they're separate. That's separate. And so I would not be

00:50:38.780 shocked if if that program is still running in some capacity or other programs. The Wall Street

00:50:47.160 Journal said that Israel has designated hundreds of millions of dollars to help shape American

00:50:55.620 public opinion related to the war and related to improving their image in the United States

00:51:04.060 with. And just to be clear, just so the audience understands when we were talking about American

00:51:08.460 public opinion, if you are a conservative who is over the age of 50, we mean you. That's who

00:51:15.720 were talking about. They have lost everyone else. The last group that supports Israel in America

00:51:23.420 are conservatives over 50. And the support among that group is waning too. They've lost some,

00:51:29.660 now it's down, what is it? Maybe 70, 30 issue with that group. I'll have to go back and check

00:51:34.820 the latest polls, but that's who they're now targeting that you are the target. And so if

00:51:40.520 you've received positive messages about israel or you know attacking it could be me it could be

00:51:46.540 tucker it could be any whatever there is a high likelihood that israel its influencers or its

00:51:52.980 paid advocates are behind these attempts to manipulate your opinion because they can't lose

00:51:58.740 you they can't lose you you're right um and i think that's i think that's terrible i'm an ally

00:52:05.060 of israel i want to see america have a great and strong relationship with israel for many years to

00:52:09.300 come. I don't want to see us having issues. I think America needs more allies, not less allies.

00:52:16.000 And as you mentioned earlier, in certain times, they don't behave like allies, which is

00:52:19.980 unfortunate. But I actually spoke at the Jerusalem Post conference at the beginning of June

00:52:25.120 with that same exact message. I said, you know, I'm appalled by the rise of anti-Semitic attacks.

00:52:32.460 As an ally of Israel, you know, I'm troubled by the reports that Republicans under the age of

00:52:39.200 30 have really broken from the nation of Israel. And I actually said the reason why isn't because

00:52:48.320 of podcasters like you, Megan, or Tucker. And yes, you guys can be quite critical and, you know,

00:52:55.340 aggressive. But I don't think you guys are the reason necessarily that people are moving away.

00:53:00.320 I think some of their biggest advocates in America do more harm for them than good. I think the

00:53:06.900 influencer operation that they have engaged in, where all of these people move as a unit and

00:53:12.860 attack anyone who's remotely critical of the nation of Israel as anti-Semitic, has done them

00:53:18.180 a tremendous disservice. I think mouthpieces like Mark Levin, who is not particularly an appealing

00:53:25.500 salesperson to young men in America, when he opens his mouth as an advocate and champion of Israel,

00:53:32.420 does he hurt the cause or help the cause? I think he hurts the cause. Same with people like

00:53:36.860 Ted Cruz. I specifically referenced

00:53:38.940 Ted Cruz in my speech at the Jerusalem

00:53:40.600 Post Conference. I said

00:53:42.940 when people like Ted Cruz do a podcast

00:53:45.200 interview with the Christian Broadcasting

00:53:47.200 Network, and he says, quote for

00:53:49.040 quote, the words,

00:53:50.760 the term Christ is King

00:53:52.860 is anti-Semitic, 1.00

00:53:55.020 is that going to make people more aligned with the

00:53:56.940 cause of Israel or against it? Of course 0.52

00:53:58.840 against it. And so I think they have terrible spokespeople

00:54:01.280 from Mark Levin

00:54:03.300 to Ted Cruz to 0.81

00:54:05.060 their ridiculous influencer network that is undoubtedly compensated in some capacity, 0.89

00:54:10.840 whether it's from their country of Israel directly or through their allies in the United States, 0.87

00:54:15.020 I think their entire PR strategy has been a total disaster. And, you know, they probably

00:54:23.180 wish I was able to engage with them in some sort of PR campaign when they tried to hire me in June

00:54:28.560 of 2025. But again, I don't do foreign work. And I'll just say, if I were to do foreign work,

00:54:34.620 I would have done the exact opposite of what they've done. 1.00

00:54:38.660 Yeah, I know it's unfortunate because, I mean, I personally, I started getting it when I wouldn't

00:54:44.320 defriend Tucker. I mean, it was a very strange thing. Like you say, you don't defriend your

00:54:48.700 friends over politics. Same, same, never. And so I can say that, you know, if Israel was pulling

00:54:58.780 the strings behind the pylon that this show suffered, it was because of our refusal to 0.60

00:55:03.960 defriend somebody because this is all long before the iran war right long before so it's very strange 1.00

00:55:09.540 and not to cut you and honestly very very dirty and disgusting it's like how can a foreign

00:55:15.000 government try to insert itself in trying because that was about tucker trying to ruin an american 0.78

00:55:20.640 podcaster and then i believe i was shrapnel around that as opposed to the direct target of

00:55:27.460 the the principal ire but that would come my way too and i didn't support the iran war i do want

00:55:33.520 to say this um in the time magazine piece a senior israeli official told time quote we're pissed at

00:55:40.060 brad parscale he was supposed to make things better we've paid him lots of money but what

00:55:44.980 did he do with it things have only gotten worse to the point that you just made that this this

00:55:51.340 campaign while it was very annoying is very annoying was utterly ineffective yeah that's a

00:55:58.500 ringing endorsement of the service is rendered and perhaps they will move in a different direction

00:56:03.940 now that the American people are kind of wise to what's taking place, or perhaps not. But Brad is

00:56:10.560 a drop in the bucket to the greater Israel influence operation that takes place every year 0.58

00:56:16.740 and every day in America. And you're exactly right. The campaign online started around when 0.78

00:56:25.780 you probably played that Charlie Kirk clip and also your refusal to denounce Tucker.

00:56:32.600 And they did the same thing on the American vice president. They demanded that the vice

00:56:40.480 president distance himself from Tucker Carlson, even though they're completely separate human

00:56:45.520 beings. And they also targeted Tucker's son. They demanded that Buckley be fired from the White

00:56:52.380 House. And to President Trump's credit, despite Tucker being one of the president's most vocal

00:56:59.800 critics and oftentimes saying things that were very lowbrow, the president never fired Tucker's

00:57:08.840 son. Buckley left the White House on his own court. I don't think the president would ever do

00:57:12.840 that. I would never think the president would do that. Right. Because the president isn't weak.

00:57:19.160 he isn't thin-skinned uh sometimes he might uh send a message on true social uh targeting some

00:57:26.760 folks and they might not like it but it's part of the process and it's part of the game it's part

00:57:31.380 and politics isn't beanbag you you know it's i get it that you can't obsess over president trump's

00:57:36.480 tweets so but i do want to say this um wait let me just tell you one thing that we pulled it via

00:57:41.600 Gallup in February. Among adults age 55 and older, 49% sympathize more with the Israelis,

00:57:49.620 31% with the Palestinians. The first time since 2005 that less than half of older Americans have

00:57:56.000 said their sympathies are with the Israelis. The 18 point lead for the Israelis also represents

00:58:01.940 the narrowest gap in sympathies ever recorded for this age group. So that's across all age 55 and

00:58:10.520 older. 49% sympathize with the Israeli, 31% with the Palestinians. And then the numbers are a little

00:58:16.580 better for the Israelis when you zero in on older conservatives. Go ahead.

00:58:19.940 Part of Israel's PR strategy, it seems, is that if you say those poll numbers out loud,

00:58:26.900 they'll say that you're paid for by Qatar. And I find actually one of the most entertaining 1.00

00:58:32.420 things I found about kind of this influencer Israel paid operation is they've all been

00:58:39.500 freaking out the last couple of days. Like, how dare you accuse us of being compensated by Israel

00:58:44.140 when there's substantially more evidence of paid for Israeli influence operations online when

00:58:50.820 they've spent the last two years calling everybody who's been remotely critical of Israel as a paid

00:58:57.320 operative of Qatar? It's very funny to me. I'll see that about myself sometimes too. Like I've 0.73

00:59:02.140 literally never taken a dollar from any foreign entity at all. Nothing, not $1 of advertising in

00:59:07.520 the show. And the only one who ever sought to buy into the show was on my tour. And those were

00:59:14.440 Israeli representatives, which is fine that they're allowed to try. We said no. But like, 1.00

00:59:23.200 I don't know anybody in Qatar. I'm not taking foreign money. I have my genuinely held opinions.

00:59:28.680 We barely even do a ton of foreign policy on this show. It's such a weird knee jerk response to be

00:59:34.340 like, you're bought and paid for by foreign influence. Go ahead. Who? Who exactly? Who paid 0.58

00:59:40.020 me? In what form? Like, honestly, if I had the time, I'd be suing all of these losers.

00:59:46.480 And I'll tell you what, it's just a matter of time before somebody sues Brad Parscale 0.89

00:59:51.120 and or Yal Jacoby and starts getting to the bottom of exactly who's paying whom for what,

00:59:58.920 what exactly those contracts allow, require, or have produced. I mean, this is so easy,

01:00:06.540 like one round of discovery in a litigation, and we will know it all. So they really better

01:00:14.260 tread carefully because a lot of these tweets are defamatory, absolute falsehoods meant to

01:00:20.980 disparage you. And sooner or later, they're going to cross the wrong person. And you mark my words,

01:00:27.800 there will be a litigation and we will see it all. Perhaps. And maybe that's ultimately what

01:00:33.900 what is needed to be done for the sake of transparency. I encourage Brad to to update

01:00:40.620 the American people and be as transparent as possible with with the deliverables that he's

01:00:45.620 offering for this contract, because the only contract that is out there is the contract that

01:00:51.220 I've repeatedly pointed to that shows the language about integration in the Salem media properties

01:00:58.440 And when I say when I highlight that, that's not me accusing everyone at Salem of being compensated.

01:01:04.560 And I think there's great people at Salem. I think people like Larry O'Connor is fantastic.

01:01:10.080 And he's been a great supporter of the president, you know, and O'Connor, too.

01:01:15.900 Yeah. You know, Larry Elder has been quite critical of the president's MOU, which I found that to be a little bit surprising.

01:01:22.200 But I'm not accusing everyone at Salem Media of being compensated, but a lot of Salem Media

01:01:28.200 personalities, including Josh Hammer, who has a podcast. I can't imagine he makes a lot of money

01:01:35.720 doing that podcast because he gets like 2,000 views. Literally, he gets like hundreds of

01:01:40.820 listeners. He has absolutely no following. He's backless and a loser. There's a lot of these

01:01:44.840 full-time content creators who target you and target the vice president, who they do it,

01:01:54.200 they post all day, every day. It's their full-time job. And to be honest, it's also my full-time job.

01:02:00.040 I have a pretty cool full-time job. I get paid to tweet and I get paid to help run

01:02:05.100 Twitter accounts that are supportive of the president of the United States.

01:02:08.820 If I told my mom 12 years ago that, mom, I'm going to become a professional tweeter for a 1.00

01:02:13.380 living, she would have probably told me, Alex, you're an idiot. You're not doing that. But I 1.00

01:02:18.060 ended up kind of paving away. And that's how you saw it. That that's that is how you saw it. I have

01:02:24.660 to say, like, those of us who have been at the center of this campaign and who cares what's

01:02:28.520 happening to me? It's really more about Trump and the vice president now because this operation has

01:02:33.180 turned on them. Anybody who's been at the center of this storm has felt it. And I I acknowledge it

01:02:40.800 publicly because I know my audience sees it when they go to, to comment on a social media post of

01:02:46.660 ours. And, and then they see all these nasty, you know, the same comments from accounts that have

01:02:52.920 two followers, you know, it's, it's so obvious, but it's unpleasant. They don't, I'm sure they're

01:02:57.320 like, what's this about? So I want them to know what's being done, that this is a calculated

01:03:01.540 effort. Um, but it's, it, when you turn, you know, on, on the government, it's a different story.

01:03:08.280 when you try to undermine the president's agenda, it's a different story. But you saw it even though

01:03:12.480 it wasn't happening to you because you were in this business. And so I would say from my

01:03:18.480 perspective, it's very validating to see somebody not at the center of this dorm say, wait, I see

01:03:23.140 the pattern. Not, not only am I in this business, I invented this business. I was the, you know,

01:03:27.400 the game of being a professional tweeter was invented by people like Charlie Kirk and myself

01:03:33.400 11 years ago yeah and so you know the the coordinated influencer operations are quite

01:03:40.480 easy for us to spot and and and so and also a lot of these influencers who i know have been

01:03:47.840 compensated for other projects that they've never disclosed and they act like it's the biggest 0.54

01:03:56.340 scandal in the world to accuse them of getting paid for posts i mean it's so it's so ridiculous 0.60

01:04:02.260 to me. And so I think, you know, to be honest, I think that this beast has kind of gotten out of

01:04:07.800 hand. The influencer marketing efforts in politics have totally gotten out of hand. Did you know

01:04:14.140 in politics, it's the only industry in America that you don't have to disclose if you were paid

01:04:19.480 for a post-it? If you get paid to promote a bikini, you have to say paid ad. If you get paid

01:04:25.760 to promote gambling markets, it says paid partnership. If you get paid to tank or attempt

01:04:32.580 to tank a specific piece of congressional legislation, you don't have to say anything.

01:04:38.900 And when it's happened, there used to be, Megan, there used to be an organic element of this.

01:04:44.860 And my focus was on identifying values aligned political candidates and partnering them with

01:04:54.300 social media influencers who believe the same things that they believe in.

01:05:01.280 And so if you look at my FEC reports, which I try to be as transparent as possible about

01:05:06.780 what clients I work with, it's no secret that I get paid to support President Donald

01:05:10.980 J. Trump online.

01:05:13.400 I support the president regardless and ultimately got hired by his team to help run social media

01:05:20.800 efforts.

01:05:22.240 So that's not a secret.

01:05:23.460 But we work with a lot of Republican candidates and politicians across the country to help amplify their voices on social media.

01:05:32.820 That has been my business since day one.

01:05:35.200 That's not a secret.

01:05:35.900 However, this industry has been totally hijacked by special interest groups who use them to shill against certain policies of the administration or certain congressional legislation, and also by foreign entities and foreign nations.

01:05:59.960 And so I think it's been there used to be this organic element to to the right wing social media sphere.

01:06:07.220 And also, I want to just say it's not only a right wing problem.

01:06:10.860 The left wing also has their cabal of influencers, but their cabal of influencers are subsidized in large part by some of their donors.

01:06:20.860 You know, there's a organization on the left called Midas Touch.

01:06:24.620 And I actually think that they do a good job for the left at social media content.

01:06:30.760 But Alex Soros wrote them a substantial check, $55 million check into Midas Touch.

01:06:38.620 Wow.

01:06:39.220 And so the left's online army.

01:06:42.840 Just for the record, that is another thing we've never accepted.

01:06:46.620 We have never taken donations from any partisan.

01:06:49.800 This company's owned entirely by me, 100% by me.

01:06:54.080 I've never taken money from anybody to run it, build it, grow it, et cetera.

01:06:59.180 It is all about Matt Moon, for better or for worse.

01:07:02.120 And that's a commitment I've made to my audience from the start, and I've lived up to that.

01:07:06.300 But too many have.

01:07:08.000 Too many have.

01:07:08.720 Even on the right, there are some well-known names who would love to have influence over

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01:07:19.240 and as soon as you take that money man you you've compromised yourself there are certain

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01:11:51.360 All right, I'll be hitting you up for your discount code after the interview, but

01:11:55.160 good for you. I'm not taking money from outsiders. But a lot of these content creators

01:12:02.060 kind of circle back to the present does this weave. So we're weaving back to what I was

01:12:06.680 talking about a couple of minutes ago. There's a lot of these content creators who make content

01:12:12.000 full time all day, every day, and they get no reach. And I think a great example of this is

01:12:20.040 this kid, Misfit Patriot. I don't even know if he's a kid. I think he's probably 20 years older

01:12:24.580 than I am, but Misfit Patriot, all he does every day is he sits in his basement and he makes a

01:12:31.620 podcast on Rumble like it's a thousand viewers. And oftentimes his commentary focuses around

01:12:40.700 Israel or focuses around anti-you or anti-Tucker. I'm very curious how this guy makes a living

01:12:49.440 because he's certainly not making it off of his Rumble viewership.

01:12:54.640 And he clearly is subsidized in some way, shape, or form

01:12:58.680 because he tweets so often.

01:13:01.080 He yelled, Jacoby, another one.

01:13:02.520 There's no way that this guy tweets 100 times a day

01:13:07.240 if he has a full-time job.

01:13:09.200 Maybe he has a job somewhere.

01:13:10.900 Does he have somebody else running as a guy?

01:13:12.700 So there's all of these people who almost get no reach,

01:13:17.460 but they have the ability to tweet all day every day so in in in my business in my own in my

01:13:26.880 experience i assume that there's someone subsidizing in some way shape or form that content

01:13:33.860 and so what i'm going to be doing i think this is kind of the final straw for me this israeli

01:13:41.080 operation. I've been actually working with Congresswoman Ana Paulina Luna around cracking

01:13:47.160 down on transparency disclosures related to foreign influence. But I think we need it more

01:13:52.440 broadly. I think that there needs to be influencer disclosures for all types of online campaigns.

01:13:59.720 I don't think that politics should be, you know, I don't think that the political industry 0.87

01:14:06.720 should have a different set of rules than people who promote bikinis or gambling or sports betting

01:14:13.100 or cozy earth, right? I think that if you are compensated for posts related to politics,

01:14:20.420 there should absolutely be disclosure laws required. And so I'll be working with

01:14:25.460 Congresswoman Ana Paulina Luna and potentially the CFTC on strengthening those disclosure laws.

01:14:30.860 I think that I think that to have a the Republican Party would be better served if Republican influencers went back to more of an organic feel rather than being compensated and subsidized by such special interest groups and potentially foreign countries.

01:14:47.380 And so what you're seeing online all day, every day is not particularly organic.

01:14:53.640 And I think that needs to change.

01:14:55.880 you um you mentioned uh something that sparked it in my mind but you're you are now in the

01:15:06.200 crosshairs because representative randy fine who's to say he's pro-israel would be the

01:15:12.140 understatement of the year seems to be his main concern kind of interesting for the voters of

01:15:16.800 Florida, but, um, he is now calling for reportedly calling for Trump to fire you because you've been

01:15:28.120 calling attention to this issue. Then, um, Mark Levin just weighed in saying he agreed with that,

01:15:36.420 that it was actually kind of interesting because, um, he denied it. Uh, well, he sort of denied it.

01:15:43.420 randy fine when confronted by somebody said oh i i don't i don't even know about that publication

01:15:48.120 i don't know anything about that publication he didn't say i don't want alex bruzowitz fired

01:15:52.960 which is what if you said to me mk are you lobbying the administration to have alex bruzowitz

01:15:57.940 fired i'd say no absolutely not what do you mean i've never lobbied you for them to fire anybody

01:16:01.400 um he was like well was it wasn't even on the record whatever that was whatever was published

01:16:07.580 in that publication i've never heard of was not even on the record okay that's that's not what a

01:16:11.580 truth teller sounds like and then we had mark levin weigh in and say randy fine's right there's

01:16:19.640 a lot of low-life bottom feeders who need to be kicked out of the conservative movement in advance

01:16:23.200 of the midterms so you know lending credibility to the report which randy fine had sort of tried

01:16:29.060 to deny right so now they want you fired from the trump administration for the work that you do

01:16:34.740 because of this issue.

01:16:37.160 This is so galling.

01:16:38.440 Yet another one,

01:16:39.820 yet another legitimate conservative fighter

01:16:44.640 who's been critical to the efforts

01:16:46.600 of this administration to win, to get ahead.

01:16:49.460 And honestly, I would put Tucker in that same boat.

01:16:52.340 I mean, to some extent, I'm there.

01:16:55.340 Many of these others,

01:16:56.960 they want you gone

01:16:58.480 because you're calling attention

01:17:01.180 and you're an Israel supporter.

01:17:02.640 And I have been an Israel supporter

01:17:04.000 Even in my whole year of, you know, growing apart from them, I've said repeatedly that 0.94

01:17:08.380 overall I support them.

01:17:10.700 They want you fired because of this issue.

01:17:14.420 So do you think Trump will listen?

01:17:17.180 You know, I'd be absolutely shocked.

01:17:20.220 I was, you know, this actually, so Randy Fine is denying it, but this all started because

01:17:26.980 Tucker Carlson referred to him with some negative comments when I appeared on Tucker's show.

01:17:34.000 And I simply said that I do not agree with statements that Randy Fein has made.

01:17:40.560 I said that he has tweeted some ugly things, which he absolutely has, and that he does not speak for the administration and I do not share his beliefs.

01:17:52.800 And he was outraged by that.

01:17:56.080 He took to X. He called me a Jew hater.

01:17:58.700 um and and i also want to say that i actually defended randy in that interview i said that

01:18:05.740 he has a better personality than ted cruz and for whatever reason he didn't say thank you alex for

01:18:12.120 saying i have a better personality than ted cruz he said that alex wasn't softened like i yeah it's

01:18:18.620 so vile what a vile thing to say right i said i defended the guy and ted cruz or tucker was shocked

01:18:25.680 that I said I think he has a better personality than Ted Cruz and I said I genuinely believe that

01:18:29.980 to this day even with the fact that he's trying to get me fired I believe that Randy has a better

01:18:34.700 personality but for whatever reason that wasn't good enough for him and so he started texting me

01:18:40.440 things after he tweeted that I was a Jew hater and he started referring to the president in past

01:18:45.800 texts as my former boss and I was like that's interesting you know good luck with all of that

01:18:50.560 randy but he absolutely was calling the white house he absolutely was trying to get me fired

01:18:56.140 and he's been doing that for almost two weeks but last week i was in the oval office with the

01:19:00.180 president having a nice conversation and i think it's disgusting that if he's because he has a

01:19:05.460 disagreement with something i said on social media that he's threatening to tank the republican agenda

01:19:10.160 and i've heard from dozens and dozens of congress members saying alex we're with you you know just 0.62

01:19:15.760 keep hold the line randy's being ridiculous which which he absolutely is he he claims to be

01:19:22.180 a defender of our values and the trump agenda but he because he doesn't like me he's threatening to

01:19:29.280 tank every house rule he's threatening to vote against the save america i think that's very

01:19:34.680 inappropriate i don't think i think he's the report just so the audience knows what we're

01:19:38.620 talking about there's a publication called notice and they reported that not only does he want you

01:19:43.080 fired. They reported that he's told the White House officials that he plans to vote against

01:19:47.680 every rule that comes across the House floor until Trump removes you. And he was the sole

01:19:54.460 Republican to vote against the rule, laying out how the House will proceed on certain bills this

01:19:58.160 week. And then they referred to how this started. TMZ confronted Representative Fine about this

01:20:07.760 notice report about you and here's what he said. You're strong arming Trump. No, you are. It sounds

01:20:15.900 like you're saying I'm not voting for Save America or for anything until Alex Brunowitz is out of the

01:20:22.840 Oval Office. He's one of Trump's top advisers. Well, that's obviously not true. I voted for

01:20:27.380 the Save America Act yesterday. Did you see me quoted in the report? No. Look, I have real

01:20:33.980 concerns about about anti-semitic adjacent people inside our party are you going to be holding out

01:20:41.660 on voting for things that president trump would ideally want until alex bernowitz is out of the

01:20:46.860 oval office or stops advising trump i have never voted against the priority of the president

01:20:52.540 and i don't plan to start there it is good times i'm having to be asked i'm having a lot of fun

01:20:59.580 with this. And I also love having TMZ in Washington, DC. I think they are a absolute

01:21:05.180 value add to political discourse. They're great. And Jacob, other than not knowing how to pronounce

01:21:10.380 your last name, but it is, it's a tricky last name. They totally butchered my last name and

01:21:14.120 not once, but twice, but I forgive them. I wish Randy would just be honest with it. He absolutely

01:21:20.620 has been trying to get me fired thus far to. Right. Why hide from it? Yeah. Why hide from it?

01:21:27.600 That's that's exactly it. I mean, he but look, I don't hate Randy Fine.

01:21:32.060 I disagree with what he says, you know, and and I would, you know, would rather have somebody like Randy Fine in that seat.

01:21:39.220 It's a deep Republican seat than a Democrat. But I think he really needs to become more of someone that wants to help the Republican Party.

01:21:47.180 And some of the statements that he says on social media certainly doesn't do that, especially it pushes people away.

01:21:53.500 that President Trump had a historic coalition in 2024.

01:21:57.640 President Trump won Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan.

01:22:00.260 He won Jews, a historic percentage of Jews in New York.

01:22:06.520 We had young people, we had crypto bros.

01:22:09.000 We had a historic gain actually with young women 0.91

01:22:12.520 that nobody wants to talk about.

01:22:13.640 We had a historic coalition that was put together.

01:22:16.480 And I don't believe when Randy Fine makes certain comments

01:22:19.800 about Muslim Americans that it is helpful to keeping our coalition together, especially in

01:22:27.180 states like Michigan. And so what he says is not a representative of what the president believes.

01:22:36.380 And so I do disagree with a lot of what Randy says, but that does not mean I hate him. It does

01:22:40.580 not mean I'm a Jew hater. And I think it's very inappropriate. That won't save you. Sorry to tell

01:22:45.460 you having been at this for a year it won't save you you i you know i loved ben shapiro i i loved

01:22:53.860 him as a friend i really considered him a dear friend and they like the the crew that makes 0.60

01:23:01.780 israel like the north star they don't give a shit if you say nice things about them if you have 0.77

01:23:08.460 genuinely kind and warm emotions toward them if you defend them when others attack them if you 0.97

01:23:14.040 try to broker peace between them and their adversaries, they don't care. They will crap on 0.93

01:23:20.560 you just as soon as look at you. If they think there's daylight between you and Israel, or if 0.99

01:23:26.760 you're willing even just to be critical at times of Israel, that's that ship has sailed for you

01:23:32.080 now, Alex, I'm sorry to break it to you. That's okay. I've grown up in this, in this space. I've 0.72

01:23:36.160 been in the Twitter wars, if you will, since I was 18. So I also grew up playing video games,

01:23:42.500 video game culture has helped me tremendously for politics. People ask me, like, what does that

01:23:47.740 mean? Well, I'll give you a little secret. You know, when Alex was 15 and 16 years old, I would

01:23:52.960 sit in my basement playing video games with my friends. And part of video game culture is when

01:23:58.300 you're being competitive, you think of the most heinous things to say to one another, and you 0.83

01:24:03.240 talk crap to each other for about eight hours every day after school. And then mom tells you 0.98

01:24:09.080 to get off of Xbox and go to sleep, but you spend eight hours talking crap to each other. 0.57

01:24:14.320 And then when you're done playing, you say, amazing time, great game. We'll be on again

01:24:20.620 tomorrow. And so for me on X, I have that same exact mindset. When I log on X, it's kind of like

01:24:28.480 a video game for me. When people say nasty things to me in comments, I understand that it's part of

01:24:34.940 the game. And I used to be much nastier personally on social media. That was kind of ultimately what

01:24:41.120 ended up getting me on the president's radar. I was very good at getting under the president's

01:24:45.340 adversary skins, people like Adam Kinzinger. I would make fun of Adam Kinzinger's stature and

01:24:51.380 potential homosexuality, but I don't do things like that anymore because I'm a lot more professional. 0.93

01:24:57.020 but um you know i i love the game i love the the game of being a a troll on social media and so

01:25:04.760 when i get trolled in a good faith troll i appreciate it i'm less i'm less um i'm less

01:25:11.680 of a fan of the organized coordinated heavily funded manipulated trolling than i am of a good

01:25:17.640 faith especially from a foreign country especially for a foreign from exactly i mean i do want to

01:25:24.000 There's a couple of things I want to get to.

01:25:25.520 This is Netanyahu.

01:25:27.460 And this is Bibi Netanyahu explicitly on record in September, September 27th, 2025, at the social media summit in New York City, SOT4.

01:25:38.200 How do we fight back our influencers?

01:25:41.500 I think you should also talk to them if you have a chance, to that community.

01:25:46.020 They're very important.

01:25:47.420 And secondly, we're going to have to use the tools of battle.

01:25:51.560 You know, the weapons change over time.

01:25:54.000 and the most important purchase

01:25:55.960 that is going on right now is

01:25:57.500 class

01:25:59.340 followers

01:25:59.720 TikTok

01:26:02.840 TikTok, number one

01:26:05.360 and I hope it goes through because

01:26:07.860 it can be consequential

01:26:10.000 and the other one, what's the other one

01:26:11.980 that's most important

01:26:12.940 X

01:26:14.140 very good

01:26:17.260 and you know, so we have to talk

01:26:19.960 to Elon, he's not an enemy

01:26:21.460 he's a friend we should talk to him now if we can get those two things we get a lot and i could go

01:26:27.480 on on other things but that's not the point right now we have to fight the fight that's september

01:26:34.140 2025 and that is reportedly when brad parscale signed this deal with israel which time magazine

01:26:40.640 reports as follows they say trump's aides expected his memorandum of understanding to be celebrated

01:26:47.000 by his supporters.

01:26:49.300 Instead, online influencers in Trump's MAGA movement

01:26:51.900 were excoriating it on social media.

01:26:53.940 Many of the posts appeared almost simultaneously

01:26:55.780 with similarities in language and tone.

01:26:58.600 Tracing tweets by prominent members of the online right,

01:27:00.700 the official came to believe there was an unlikely figure

01:27:02.720 at the center of all this criticism,

01:27:04.660 and that's Brad Parscale.

01:27:06.560 Last September, the global ad agency Havas

01:27:09.220 hired Parscale's firm, Clocktower X,

01:27:11.800 to conduct a digital campaign on behalf of the state of Israel,

01:27:16.180 according to the Foreign Agents Registration Act filings reviewed by Time.

01:27:21.020 Under that agreement, Parscale's operation would produce 100 original pieces of content each month

01:27:25.520 with at least 80% aimed at Gen Z audiences across TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, and podcasts.

01:27:32.140 In the services agreement draft, you spoke to this earlier,

01:27:35.840 he also pledged to amplify the campaign across social media

01:27:38.340 and through integration of narratives into Salem Media.

01:27:41.420 He tells you that he wasn't able to do that at Salem.

01:27:43.480 and aligned distribution channels.

01:27:46.120 Pascal vowed the effort would produce

01:27:47.720 at least 50 million digital impressions per month,

01:27:50.080 as well as influence how AI tools

01:27:52.220 such as OpenAI's ChatGPT and Claude and so on

01:27:55.400 would characterize Israel in the war.

01:27:58.360 Publicly, the campaign was framed as an effort

01:28:00.160 to combat rising anti-Semitism online.

01:28:03.300 An Israeli foreign ministry official

01:28:04.720 familiar with the arrangement says

01:28:05.980 there was another strategic aim,

01:28:07.800 preventing young conservatives

01:28:09.540 from turning against Israel.

01:28:12.280 How the messaging operation works. They report three people familiar, describe an operation run through a network of interconnected firms overseen by Parscale or other firms he owns or created, such as Campaign Nucleus and Influensible, in which he now has a minority stake.

01:28:28.580 through private group chats. They say conservative influencers receive suggested language for posts

01:28:34.700 on social media sites, such as X, Instagram, and TikTok. They were then compensated based

01:28:40.240 on the impressions and engagement their content generated. It remains unclear how much Pascal's

01:28:47.340 office outfits paid creators as part of the Israel campaign. So, I mean, whatever he told you,

01:28:53.600 and he and i'll read his statement as we reached out to him and this yeah y'all yacobi literally

01:29:00.080 nobody knows who you are y'all um but in any event we reached out for a statement and they may be

01:29:06.480 denying it but i mean this is explicit he denied it strongly to me um but i think he has a lot of

01:29:12.520 i think he needs to answer a lot of questions not just to me but to the american people i look

01:29:16.340 forward to his lawsuit if somebody printed this about me that i actually was unleashing a foreign

01:29:22.040 country's influence campaign in this. I would sue their asses so fast. It would make your head spin 0.99

01:29:28.320 so fast. And honestly, like if Brad Parscale, if what they wrote about you is untrue,

01:29:34.780 you should sue Time magazine right now. We will cover it fully and you can come on this show and

01:29:40.200 you can tell us all about how they disparaged you again. He knew you were coming on this program

01:29:45.300 last night. He knows me. He's got my text number. He didn't call me. Why do you think that is,

01:29:50.960 Alex, why do you think it has anything to do with my legal background or my intolerance for 1.00

01:29:57.460 fucking bullshit? Well, I actually encouraged him to go on your program. And I think you're 0.99

01:30:03.120 actually the one who made Brad Parscale famous in the first place. So ultimately, Megan, if he's in

01:30:09.820 fact doing that, perhaps you're the reason why that there's an Israel influencer campaign that's

01:30:15.440 taking place in America. No. And so all roads lead back to Megan. But look, I have a lot of.

01:30:23.640 No, let's hope that's not true. I'm kidding. But I have a lot of concerns and questions still

01:30:27.760 around what Brad is doing specifically with that money. And I don't think that the reporter at

01:30:33.860 Time magazine would have lied. Eric Cordalessa, I think he's a left leaning guy, but I also don't

01:30:40.480 think he's a dishonest person necessarily. He's interviewed the president for multiple cover

01:30:44.900 stories. And he seems to be well-sourced in the administration. And he spoke to senior U.S.

01:30:53.360 intelligence officials for that piece as well. So I'm not on here saying that I think Brad Parscale

01:31:00.040 is innocent and doing anything wrong. I'm just repeating that. He denied it to me. He said that

01:31:05.680 he's focusing on text messages. But you played the Bibi clip earlier. It is evident that Bibi

01:31:12.780 acted on those comments and those remarks that the battlefield is now on x and on tiktok

01:31:20.080 there has been a major influx of coordinated pro-israel content by american content creators

01:31:28.580 who's paying them that is the great mystery but it's absolutely happening and so i think it's

01:31:36.820 important to to at least call out that this paid operation is taking place i also want to for the

01:31:43.100 record state that israel is not the only country doing this a lot of countries participate in these

01:31:49.060 types of campaigns and activities i'm against them all and i call them all out it's just the numbers

01:31:54.820 i saw just correct me if i'm wrong alex but our information is it's just the the amount like

01:31:59.260 there's there was one um gosh i pulled it here i have so much information on this so i'm just

01:32:05.300 swimming in a sea of info there was one that's paying um another company i always do uh 60 grand

01:32:12.300 a month um which is a pretty good nut but it's pales in comparison to what the israelis are

01:32:18.740 paying hold on a second i'm gonna find it page six standby lots of info here it is um yeah it's

01:32:27.180 that the Israeli government, no, no, sorry. Saudi Arabia pays Ballard, which is another group,

01:32:36.640 one of the most connected firms in Trump's Washington, 60,000 bucks a month. So that's

01:32:42.920 60 grand. The Wall Street Journal reported that as it was reporting that Brad Parscale got $40

01:32:47.780 million in lobbying from the Israelis. Yeah, that Saudi Arabia pays one of the most connected firms

01:32:55.700 in Washington, 60 grand a month, which, I mean, Brad Parscale is getting millions, millions a

01:33:01.860 month. It just pales in comparison. Yeah, it's no doubt. Brad's contract with Israel is a record

01:33:07.320 setting contract. It is the largest FAR contract for one entity in history, almost by a few

01:33:16.720 multiples. So it's quite substantial. It's quite large. And there's great mystery around specifically

01:33:22.820 how he's allocating that cash. What he told me was it's strictly on text messages. I've actually

01:33:29.020 encouraged him to come on your program and, and have a conversation with you about it. Maybe he

01:33:33.900 will, probably he won't, but I told him he should have a conversation with you and at least open up

01:33:39.020 the American people. But, but, but he should, because unlike, unlike him, I have always been

01:33:44.540 very good to Brad Parscale. I truly have always been very good to him and I've been an admirer

01:33:50.420 of his. But there is no question that he is meddling now in American elections on behalf

01:33:56.420 of Israel. He's disclosed it. It's undoubtable. I mean, it's all there black and white in writing

01:34:04.360 from him. And perhaps he's behind all the influencers targeting Tucker, J.D. Vance,

01:34:12.840 the Trump administration on this MOU, not to mention yours truly. I guess there's a chance

01:34:18.260 he's not, but it's all certainly very coincidental that Netanyahu made his intentions clear.

01:34:24.060 They reached out to you. You rejected them. Brad gets hired that very same month of September.

01:34:28.920 That's the same month that some of these folks started attacking me for playing those Charlie

01:34:32.580 soundbites. It's never led up thereafter. And this same network that that comments universally in the

01:34:40.620 same words on any issue that touches Israel is the same group of people that's been ripping all

01:34:47.880 those individuals i just named right here's jd vance with a little bit more uh on joe rogan

01:34:53.680 in sat seven and like i should be clear um you know like i don't actually mind i don't mind

01:35:03.820 that the you know let's say certain elements of the israeli government want to criticize the deal

01:35:12.140 or have disagreements about the deal. I don't even mind an effort to try to influence, you know,

01:35:19.160 foreign governments try to influence the United States all the time. You know, Israel does it,

01:35:22.880 other countries do it. It's just sort of the nature of the beast. What bothers me is actually 0.91

01:35:28.800 when Americans allow, meaning American leadership, allows that influence to affect their judgment

01:35:36.800 and to affect what they are advocating for.

01:35:40.140 That's what really bothers me.

01:35:41.760 People are always going to try

01:35:43.180 to influence the United States of America,

01:35:44.860 whether they're allies of ours

01:35:46.180 or whether they're enemies of ours.

01:35:47.920 But again, when I open up the pages of Time Magazine

01:35:51.520 and I see that there's a literal foreign influence campaign

01:35:55.240 being funded to tank the very deal that I was pursuing,

01:35:59.240 and oh, by the way,

01:36:00.160 many of the people who were receiving that money

01:36:01.960 were actually attacking me in completely dishonest ways. 0.99

01:36:05.700 you know, my response to that is, well, go to hell. I'm going to do what I have to do for the 0.99

01:36:09.520 American people. I represent Americans first. And that's the way that I've tried to do this job.

01:36:17.240 Right on. I mean, he couldn't said it better myself. Your thoughts on that?

01:36:22.260 I think the vice president is an incredibly effective messenger. I think he's spot on

01:36:25.860 with his comments related to that. I think it's quite troubling if politicians are changing

01:36:35.400 the way that they vote or their beliefs based on what they see on social media because of

01:36:42.080 how manipulated social media has become.

01:36:45.960 And I've actually had meetings with the Republican Study Committee and other large organizations

01:36:52.220 in Congress telling them to be very careful about overreacting to pressure campaigns online.

01:37:01.260 if you see certain influencers tweeting about certain issues, you can assume that there's

01:37:07.000 funding behind it. If a random influencer who has never tweeted about, say, a farm bill before

01:37:13.020 is very learned in the ins and outs of a text related to a farm bill, you can probably assume

01:37:22.120 that that is coming from a place that is inorganic. And so I think that a lot of these

01:37:30.140 social media campaigns have been successful in the past. I'm sure foreign countries have been

01:37:35.480 successful in the past at using these types of tactics. But I'm raising awareness about it now

01:37:43.920 because I think it's gone too far. And we cannot allow people, specifically people in power,

01:37:51.800 to be swayed by manipulated talking points on social media. I don't want to see it change the

01:37:57.980 way people vote. I don't want to see a change the way people talk about issues, because there's a

01:38:04.440 lot of powerful people who are very focused on what's happening on X. And it's quite easy to

01:38:13.780 manipulate public perception on that platform. And so I'm very grateful that the vice president

01:38:19.280 raised awareness about it on the biggest podcast in the world. And I think it was a very important

01:38:24.860 discussion. I think there'll be continuing discussions around these types of influence

01:38:30.060 campaigns over the course of the next couple of months. Me too. You mark my words. There will be

01:38:36.760 a lawsuit at some point by someone and all of it will come out. We'll know all of it. They can't

01:38:42.920 keep it a secret. It's just, there's too many ways of tracing it. You get these people under oath at

01:38:48.760 a deposition and it's a totally different ball game. And that'll be great because we should know

01:38:53.620 We should absolutely know who's engaging in this campaign of harassment, defamation, and destruction, attempted destruction, including of the vice president of the United States in particular.

01:39:08.640 But the president himself has come under this, not to mention others.

01:39:12.860 So, Alex, I think you're doing the Lord's work.

01:39:15.180 And I've been a fan long before you were speaking out about this, as you know.

01:39:19.240 And I really appreciate your friendship with Charlie and some of the stories you've told me behind the scenes. Seems like you two were close and shared a lot as you were up and coming with no followers and built both of your empires brick by brick. I admire you. All the best.

01:39:34.400 Likewise. Take care.

01:39:35.260 um okay a couple of things he had to run because he's actually uh got some important meetings today

01:39:41.540 but it's actually interesting what he was saying about epstein and israel the followers of this

01:39:46.320 show know it's only our detractors who like to pretend that i've been some knee-jerk like backer

01:39:51.860 of the president i don't mean alex i mean like people online who are like she she betrayed trump

01:39:56.600 it's like i'm sorry to tell you but i i've challenged trump or been on the opposite side

01:40:01.980 a wrong side of Trump many, many times over the past 10, 11 years. Just ask him. Just Google it.

01:40:08.140 You know, I'm just not in the tank for anybody. And if you listen to the show, you know that.

01:40:14.000 That doesn't come as news to you. He's been mad at me many, many times, including since we launched

01:40:19.020 this program. He wasn't talking to me for the first couple of years. Then we kind of made up

01:40:25.660 at a Charlie Kirk event. Then I interviewed him. He got mad because I gave him a hard time,

01:40:30.520 even though I'd been totally defensive of Trump on the law affair. I did give him a hard time for

01:40:34.620 once he got the subpoena, not turning over those documents, some of them at Mar-a-Lago,

01:40:39.980 then he wouldn't speak to me again. Then we got sort of back in good graces. It's the nature of

01:40:44.720 my job. You know, I am a journalist. That is my first and best and highest calling.

01:40:51.660 And I do commentary as well, political commentary, as you know. And all of that can be annoying to

01:40:58.300 a sitting politician because i'm not a political operative you know i was watching hannity last

01:41:03.260 night after the president's remarks he is a political operative hannity is there to persuade

01:41:09.080 you to back trump period okay i get it that people i think know that they don't think he's

01:41:15.180 you know a straight news journalist like a brett bear um that's fine that's there's nothing wrong

01:41:20.620 with doing that it's just not my job it's not what it's not the business i am in so we're gonna

01:41:26.240 across wires every once in a while, whether it's President Trump, President Vance, President Rubio,

01:41:34.560 President Biden, President Obama. I'm here for the truth. That's what I'm here for. And when I

01:41:40.940 veer into opinion, I'm going to tell you what my actual opinion is, even if it upsets Republicans

01:41:48.620 or people in the administration. My audience knows this. Okay. I want to read to you Brad

01:41:53.820 Parscale's statements because we did reach out to him. And here's what he said to our show.

01:42:02.720 Okay. Well, here's what he said in the Time Magazine, right? I think this is in the Time

01:42:09.520 Magazine piece. He says, quote, claims that I attacked the memorandum of understanding or the

01:42:16.760 administration are false. I welcome professional journalists who examine the facts instead of

01:42:22.160 drawing conclusions from speculation or manufactured connections. Everything I created

01:42:27.440 and did is publicly disclosed through the FARA, Foreign Agent Registration Act, process.

01:42:33.420 There isn't a single shred of evidence that I acted against the administration.

01:42:39.000 There isn't a shred of evidence that I did it. The effort began nearly three years ago,

01:42:44.380 this effort, because I saw a rise in Jewish hatred, not because of any government agenda.

01:42:49.020 My goal has always been to strengthen relationships, not damage them.

01:42:53.040 Okay.

01:42:53.740 I mean, he only anchored under the Foreign Agent Registration Act last year.

01:42:57.460 So I'm not sure what he's admitting to doing three years ago, but that's not necessarily

01:43:02.440 a great admission.

01:43:04.100 He also sent us a post by the Israeli Foreign Ministry on X that reads as follows.

01:43:12.100 Following Time Magazine's defamatory article regarding Israel's digital public diplomacy,

01:43:16.420 the Israeli Minister of Foreign Affairs wishes to clarify the following points.

01:43:20.840 All of our activities are transparent and are conducted in strict compliance with U.S. law.

01:43:25.200 We hide nothing and we obfuscate nothing.

01:43:27.680 We certainly do not interfere in any U.S. foreign or domestic policy.

01:43:32.540 That is very, I mean, that's literally laughable.

01:43:35.740 We certainly do not interfere in any U.S. foreign or domestic policy.

01:43:39.700 I mean, we know we know that Lindsey Graham was meeting with the Israelis and coordinating on how to convince Trump to get into this war.

01:43:51.120 Lindsey Graham admitted that like what this is.

01:43:53.940 These are what we call lies.

01:43:55.660 But OK, back to them.

01:43:57.100 um the ministry lawfully contracted with an experienced digital agency to combat the

01:44:03.780 dissemination of hatred against jews and israel and to strengthen support for the strategic

01:44:08.980 alliance between the u.s and israel claims to the contrary like those raised in time magazine

01:44:13.560 are malicious attempts to harm israel's good name oh well then i look forward to your lawsuit

01:44:17.700 are you to israel too no they sometimes threaten to do this but you can't you can't defame a

01:44:24.040 country. That's not a thing. So there you have it. Pascal also denied that any Salem hosts

01:44:31.240 have been paid by Israel for their opinions. We already covered that. This is to Time Magazine.

01:44:36.760 He said, my contract with Israel does not influence Salem hosts or independent influencers.

01:44:42.520 And then he also said, the claim that I'm coordinated in an effort to prolong the war

01:44:45.880 is completely false. The only people manufacturing a conflict between Trump, Israel, and me

01:44:49.920 are anonymous officials using background quotes to make me the boogeyman.

01:44:55.600 Great. Well, you wait, because that influence operation and all those sad little influencers

01:45:05.640 will be outed because there are things like tax returns and so on, all of which is discoverable.

01:45:11.940 and you know it's it's basically just gonna take them crossing the wrong person one too many times

01:45:21.380 you know for that person to do something about this to actually just fight back there's uh this

01:45:29.220 guy y'all yacobi who we mentioned a few times i i have no idea who this is but he's apparently

01:45:34.460 one of these alleged influencers and here's what he writes uh we reached out

01:45:39.760 the story was planted by bruisowitz the time magazine one to undermine legitimate criticism

01:45:47.200 of the mou which quite literally failed because iran is a fundamentalist regime that is actively

01:45:52.400 trying to murder our president vice president and the rest of the cabinet as i've told alex

01:45:55.960 repeatedly i've never received a dime from the israeli american or any government government

01:46:03.120 okay nor was i paid to ask basic questions about the mou on the other hand alex has a long history

01:46:09.220 of not disclosing paid posts

01:46:10.380 and receiving huge sums of money

01:46:12.140 from corporate PACs.

01:46:14.460 But Alex doesn't dispute that.

01:46:18.280 Alex is taking issue

01:46:19.400 with the receipt of foreign money

01:46:21.260 funding these campaigns.

01:46:23.100 That's what he's objecting to.

01:46:24.200 You heard him own that he's done that

01:46:26.720 and that he's disclosed that stuff

01:46:27.960 in his returns.

01:46:30.240 This is an example

01:46:31.780 of the kind of dishonest squirreliness

01:46:34.120 you would expect from these influencers.

01:46:36.420 I have never received a dime from the Israeli, American, or any government, nor was I paid to ask basic questions about the MOU.

01:46:49.560 Okay, what Time reports is that they, you heard it, that they're in these private chat groups with Parscale or his groups, and that the messaging is then suggested.

01:46:59.300 And if they want to tweet that and can generate a certain, if you read the whole Time Magazine

01:47:04.240 piece, it lays it out, a certain number of likes or supporting comments, et cetera, they

01:47:11.260 get paid more.

01:47:12.520 So it's not sure.

01:47:13.700 It's not getting paid to ask basic questions about the MOU. 1.00

01:47:18.000 I'm sure the chat group said something like, the MOU fucking sucks. 1.00

01:47:21.500 Go get him. 1.00

01:47:22.760 You're not asking basic questions.

01:47:24.500 And you could definitely say, honestly, that that is not a dime from the Israeli or American

01:47:32.580 government. Right. It's a dime from Brad Parscale, who wouldn't have said dime if he hadn't received

01:47:39.800 his 45 million from Israel. I mean, like, we're not idiots. It's whatever. Okay. So I bring all 0.99

01:47:48.580 of this to you so that you'll know when you see the next attack on J.D. Vance, because that's

01:47:54.340 really who this is about. They don't want him becoming the Republican nominee. You will

01:48:01.240 understand that he is at the apex of this group of people who have been attacked now for the better

01:48:07.080 part of a year. And I believe a lot of the attacks against Tucker and to some extent yours truly

01:48:12.240 are because of our relationship with J.D. Vance, that our support for him has to be undermined

01:48:21.320 because now we're alleged anti-Semites, and they'll be casting J.D. Vance as an anti-Semite

01:48:27.680 in order to keep him from capturing the Republican nomination, trying to hobble him as he heads into

01:48:33.660 midterm season, which brings on 2028. Like all of this to some large extent is about him.

01:48:43.940 And look, all of us are in this business and it's disgusting, toxic, awful, dishonest. So we 0.98

01:48:49.640 got to take our slings and arrows, but we don't have to take it silently. There's nothing wrong

01:48:53.680 with pointing out to you what's happening. So you know as well. And we help create a more

01:48:59.180 sophisticated consumer who is better able to fight back, even mentally or emotionally on your own

01:49:05.660 part, against these operations? How dare they try to manipulate you with disinformation? How dare

01:49:13.120 they try to manipulate their fellow Americans with propaganda being pushed by a foreign government? 0.88

01:49:19.080 Again, I objected to it when it was the Palestinians. I object to it when it's the 0.97

01:49:24.080 Israelis. I object to it when it's the Chinese. They can all go to hell, as our vice president 1.00

01:49:31.380 so aptly put. Okay, so a little food for thought as we head into the weekend. Looking forward to 0.99

01:49:36.860 receiving your comments from my actual audience at Megan at MeganKelley.com. That's how you can

01:49:43.840 email me. Have a great, great weekend, and we will see you back here on Monday.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - July 17, 2026

The TRUTH About Foreign Influence Campaigns in America, on Social Media and Beyond, with Alex Bruesewitz ｜ Ep. 1362

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