00:02:39.720We don't have proof positive that he drowned,
00:02:42.400but we have looked at everything submitted by the state
00:02:46.460and by Benjamin Crump, who represents the family.
00:02:49.880He's submitted a bunch of evidence to us, too.
00:02:52.060He's been invited to submit anything and everything he has.
00:02:55.020And he, in response to that, gave a bunch of things.
00:02:57.600And we, the grand jury, looked at it all.
00:02:59.100And our determination, after listening to the medical examiner for the state of Mississippi, as well as the one hired by Crump on behalf of the Nolan Wells family, a young black man who went over to this Horn Island with his friends on July 4th of this year with his buddies and did not return.
00:03:19.140his buddy's boat because he wanted to stay at the island based on independent witness testimony
00:03:24.940and then never came home. And a day later was found dead in the water.
00:03:31.960And now there's been all sorts of innuendos swirling around his friends, most of whom were
00:03:36.840white, not all, because his family connected with two race hustlers, Al Sharpton and Ben Crump,
00:03:42.700who have been fueling that fire ever since with absolutely no evidence.
00:03:46.100and the grand jury ultimately just this week came out and said that there was no foul play here
00:03:52.020these boys did nothing there's nothing put in front of us that in any way incriminates those
00:03:57.260friends at all and the nearest we can tell is that this kid drowned he drowned after having
00:04:04.800a fair amount to drink and that should be the end of it i'm sorry mr crump but your your game is over
00:04:12.060It's done. You had your fun trying to divide us yet again on the basis of skin color.
00:04:18.440What's your goal? Like a full out race war? No, I think it's just to pad your pockets
00:04:23.080with some more donations to grieving moms and dads like these who at their weakest moment
00:04:31.280fall into your clutches. You can pump up your name and your wallet at the expense of grieving
00:04:38.280families. Shame on you. You're a bad person. But Benjamin Crump will not accept the conclusion of
00:04:48.920the grand jury at all. And what happened yesterday afternoon is he released what he says is his own
00:04:57.000independent forensic examination of Nolan Wells. Again, that's the decedent here. Cell phone.
00:05:03.180And provided his spin of what it means. Here's what's so galling about his interpretation of
00:05:08.160the cell phone. The DA didn't have the cell phone. What happened was the boys who went to Horn Island
00:05:13.760with Nolan, his buddies, had the cell phone on their boat. Nolan left it on their boat. And then
00:05:19.260they all got in the water and they swam and they had a good time and so on. And then when the boat
00:05:23.000was returning back early because it was having some trouble taking on water and Nolan said,
00:05:28.100I'm good, I'll just catch a ride with somebody else, which was commonplace. There was testimony
00:05:31.240to that effect that kids would come and go on different boats all the time. He clearly forgot
00:06:05.300You have the phone. What are you saying? Why are you trying to create drama around the phone and phone records when you're the one who has those?
00:06:12.820The D.A. had to ask you for all of that. All right.
00:06:16.260So now he does this, what the D.A. is calling grandstanding about there were deletions off of this phone, he says, after Nolan last logged on.
00:06:29.560And when the parents received the phone. There were deletions.
00:06:34.260aha, must be the white boys. It's really what he says, either explicitly or implicitly with all of
00:06:41.740his statements. Those white kids, they deleted their nefarious text messages. That's what he's
00:06:46.560suggesting. And the DA had to get up in the middle of the night from the look of it last night and
00:06:53.020put together a statement of her own to try to correct the record because the hustler is out
00:06:59.380there at every turn trying to spin us on what the facts allegedly show. All right. So here's
00:07:07.560what Ben Crump claimed where he was speaking about Snapchat conversation that occurred on
00:07:15.140Nolan's cell phone. And this he's using this to say even Nolan's friends were worried about Nolan
00:07:23.100possibly getting attacked by racists on Horn Island. Listen to Sot One.
00:07:30.860But the messages on his phone in the snaps will show some of his own friends
00:07:39.580were concerned about people on Horn Island can be racist.
00:07:48.300That's his friends discussing that on snap.
00:07:53.100So, yeah, a lot of people were thinking about whether there was a racial component in this tragedy of Nolan Wells being unalived.
00:08:09.300And so, one of the SNAP's conversations talked about, do you all remember real sketchy looking guys behind us in two boats?
00:08:26.680I mean like, yeah, that one that looked like, and I won't say the name, maybe.
00:11:41.480And that too is a lie. The DA has addressed that in a statement today. By the way, that sound I played was from yesterday, not Wednesday, it was from Thursday. And she comes out and says, okay, first of all, the grand jury returned a detailed report concerning their findings in this investigation.
00:12:02.420The grand jury report references the cell phone extraction reports that our office received.
00:12:06.740The 30-hour digital download that Mr. Garrett, his forensic witness, discussed was not provided to the state, as Mr. Garrett claimed.
00:12:15.980All that we got were two emails containing about 300 pages of selected findings from Nolan's cell phone.
00:12:21.760However, the information they provided in their press conference and what they provided to my office prior to the grand jury report was that no one physically accessed Nolan's cell phone after his last known use and before his parents received it.
00:12:36.640No one accessed it. No one accessed it. No one accessed it.
00:12:45.160The family had been concerned about Nolan's phone being accessed before they received it.
00:12:49.220When I recently spoke to Mrs. Wansley, that's Nolan's mom, I mentioned how relieved she must have been to learn this.
00:12:56.540The user action discussed by Mr. Garrett, that's again Crump's forensic guy, is from other Snapchat users, not someone physically accessing Nolan Wells' phone.
00:13:08.520If the Crump team has evidence to the contrary, they've not provided it to us.
00:13:13.800What she is telling us is that Nolan was part of a group chat on Snapchat.
00:13:20.160That group chat continued messaging beyond the point that Nolan had accessed his phone that day of July 4th.
00:13:28.620The chat did not stop just because Nolan was no longer participating in it.
00:13:33.760And Snapchat has automated deletions on many of its messaging services.
00:13:38.580So this is not even remotely suspicious, but based on this and one other thing regarding the autopsy, which we're going to get into, he's now again trying to stir up trouble that somehow these boys allegedly went on Nolan's phones.
00:13:56.120That's what he wants you to believe. And deleted their. What? Nolan's text to them saying, please don't kill me. His provocative. Oh, you know, F you. Why don't you come for me? Texts. They don't exist. They aren't there. The D.A. would have found them that the D.A. got all of the phones of the boys.
00:14:17.340If there had been some suspicious deletion on Nolan's phone and all the boys' phones, you don't think we'd know about it?
00:14:24.800You don't think this DA would throw these boys under the bus in two seconds?
00:14:30.140She's made reference to Mississippi's dark history when it comes to racial matters repeatedly.
00:14:35.140She's well aware this woman does not want that kind of a scandal on her hands.
00:14:39.220What incentive would she have to cover anything up?
00:14:42.740Her career depends on her doing a thorough investigation and figuring out what actually happened in a case as high profile as this.
00:14:51.700And you know what she's found to determine these boys had something to do with it?
00:15:20.980And now he's got a lot to say about the sketchy, racist looking guys on the island and the alleged deletions on Nolan's phone that he's had on his possession without telling you the full story.
00:15:33.480Because he wants the innuendo to hang in the air.
00:15:37.360And he'd love for these white and also mixed race friends of Nolan's to hang right alongside of it.
00:17:08.800What do you make of what Ben Crump did yesterday?
00:17:11.500Well, I would say, first of all, your framing is correct insofar as Bart had very little to do with this case.
00:17:17.440I mean, I would say he did two things.
00:17:18.820One, he ferried out an overflow crowd that day at a request from a friend to bring out some folks that he didn't even know.
00:17:25.600And then the second thing that he did towards the end of the day was to actually help the Triton boat that Nolan had originally ridden out on that morning when it was experiencing a mechanical issue.
00:17:35.600But for that, he has been accused of everything underneath the sun, including and up to the murder of his friend, based on some incredibly rank speculation and defamation.
00:17:47.500uh you know people inventing motive all sorts of things that um would be comical but for the fact
00:17:53.760that you're literally accusing somebody without any facts of the worst possible thing that they
00:17:57.960could do and subjecting them to death threats and all manner of things um you know i think
00:18:02.180part of the problem here is that um if you think about like the super bowl last year right was
00:18:08.780between the seahawks and the patriots and i know that and you know that but watching what's going
00:18:13.600online is a little bit like watching people that didn't watch the game talk about it being between
00:18:18.080you know the Browns and the Chiefs or something right that they are making up plays they are
00:18:23.380making up things that happened and the consequence of that is that it doesn't really matter what is
00:18:27.920true you've got a small group of young men including my client that have been implicated
00:18:31.860by all of these things that Mr. Crump and others have pushed I'll I say that as a sort of context
00:18:37.420for the conversation around the phone because I don't think the average person on the internet
00:18:43.140engaging on this, understands that the phone wasn't on my client's boat or that my client
00:19:02.660So he had already put out the narrative very early on.
00:19:06.820This was a small group of boys that went out to this desolate place.
00:19:09.500So you've got opportunity that he's created a narrative around.
00:19:12.560He said there's a limited number of people who could have been involved, and so he's made a small group with lots of the things that he said.
00:19:20.840And then on top of that, he's essentially said these boys absconded with the phone and then things got deleted.
00:19:25.100So when you put this expert up after the grand jury has already found no credible evidence and you allow the expert to not say but imply that the phone got accessed, you know exactly what the result is.
00:19:40.220You know that it's going to lead this angry mob that is already primed for defamation, that is already making threats against people, to believe that one of the young men whose names have been floated around and have been bashed on the Internet must have been the one that accessed and deleted things off the phone.
00:19:59.480And therefore, that is proof of conspiracy and cover up.
00:20:03.540The reality is that no one accessed the phone.
00:20:06.940And so what you've got to listen for when you're listening to experts like this is not always what they do say, but what they don't say.
00:20:17.160Let me stand you by on that for one second, Russ, and play what this guy, Andrew Garrett, the forensics guy for Crump, said specifically about deletions on the phone yesterday.
00:20:34.400Unfortunately, that's not my field of expertise, the psychology, but I could tell you from a digital standpoint, things were deleted on the phone from the time he last had the phone up until the time that his parents got the phone.
00:20:50.180I don't talk in the world of intent, unfortunately.
00:20:52.420So we can say that in order for that to be done, somebody had to take a user action to delete data.
00:20:57.980Okay. So his parents said that when they got his phone, they thought that things had been deleted.
00:21:06.900And the question is, are they crazy to think that?
00:21:11.960No. I think if you were to look at the phone like we did and look through the message threads and stuff,
00:21:17.320you could put together that things were deleted.
00:21:20.380Okay. So, again, the DA in her statement today, Jackson County DA, Angel Miles McElrath, says no one physically accessed Nolan's cell phone after his last known use and before his parents received it.
00:21:35.880And so that's not the impression you would have if you listened to this guy, Garrett. But the truth is no one physically accessed it. There may have been deletions on Snapchat.
00:21:46.500Can we speak to that, Russ? Because now you're going to have people out there like, oh, well, they put it on Snapchat, all the things they did to Nolan or something on Snapchat was super incriminating.
00:21:58.720That's why they deleted it. So, you know, aha, we've got him.
00:22:03.280Yeah, I just want to revisit that. He did not say that the phone had been accessed by anybody on the Trident boat where the phone was.
00:22:11.080he certainly left that open to people's imagination and if you watch what happened on the internet
00:22:16.040yesterday people ran with that like wild right that was the proof that the friends had tampered
00:22:22.440with the phone and it was the proof of a cover-up when in fact he did not say that and by the way
00:22:27.220he has since done an interview where he has clarified himself a little bit there um you know
00:22:32.620not one that's going to be covered by all of national media and seen by millions of people
00:22:36.540but he did a TikTok Live, the Garrett guy, where he basically said that he wasn't, you know,
00:22:40.800he wasn't implying that somebody had accessed the phone. That was not. And all he said there was
00:22:45.580there were things deleted from that phone. And he said it took a user action, right? So
00:22:50.880there are two ways that messages get deleted from Snapchat. I'm not a big Snapchatter. You
00:22:56.140mentioned you have a 17 year old son today. First of all, happy birthday to him. He probably does
00:23:00.960Snapchat a good bit. But my appreciation is that there are two ways. One is that there's an
00:23:05.800automatic deletion function that you can set to a certain amount of time where things get deleted.
00:23:10.540The other is, you know, you can recall a Snapchat, right? So if I send you something, Megan,
00:23:16.380and it's a goof, and I decide, you know what, I'm going to recall that, I can recall the Snapchat,
00:23:21.640and it effectively removes it off of both of our phones. And so, you know, that may very well be
00:23:27.300what he's referring to. He actually, again, he did not say exactly what he was referring to,
00:23:32.000He did not say the mechanism by which these things were deleted.
00:23:37.640He didn't say when they deleted it or what was deleted.
00:23:40.540But there's a completely non-nefarious explanation for this, which is either automatic deletion or the platform itself is designed to allow for you to put something out there and then recall it.
00:23:51.560And I think that's just a privacy feature that people use all the time in the context of the platform.
00:23:57.000Yes. I mean, again, the DA says explicitly, the user action discussed by Mr. Garrett is from
00:24:02.880other Snapchat users, not someone physically accessing Nolan Wells' phone. If the Crump team
00:24:08.680has evidence to the contrary, they have not provided it to us. Then she goes on to say,
00:24:14.760the Crump team made the decision to wait until the 11th hour to do a private phone extraction
00:24:18.860and only provide the grand jury with certain portions of the results. That's not the state
00:24:22.860of Mississippi failing to be thorough. That's the Crump team making strategic choices to control
00:24:27.280the public information on Nolan's phone and create a misleading public narrative. What the snaps tell
00:24:32.020us is how strong Nolan's bonds of friendships were. It also tells us that the family and the
00:24:38.660Crump team should not have allowed Nolan's friends to be publicly accused and have their lives and
00:24:44.360their families' lives threatened and reputations ruined. This DA has had about enough of this.
00:24:51.500Now, we've got to get into the autopsies because the state of Mississippi conducted one and then the Ben Crump team conducted one and the other big piece of news that's now come out because the state didn't release its autopsy results, but they gave them to Ben Crump, who then made them public yesterday.
00:25:08.700And what they found is that there was not water in Nolan's stomach or lungs.
00:25:17.240And this led the Internet, same Internet, to say he didn't drown.
00:30:17.700They looked at all the group messages.
00:30:19.280It sounds like they were saying they were able to reconstruct everything that was deleted.
00:30:22.600If that's true and they had anything that was incriminating towards the friends,
00:30:27.300one, they would have submitted that to the grand jury when they sent their report to the grand jury.
00:30:30.720Two, they certainly would have submitted in the context of the press conference they had yesterday.
00:30:35.340They literally came up with nothing, which means I can guarantee you they don't have anything incriminating in any of those messages.
00:30:41.800You know, I think the other thing that is really, really important just contextually is that this reminds me a lot of like labor and employment cases that happen where an employee will accuse an employer of not doing a good job and then not cooperate in the investigation.
00:30:56.620And once the investigation is over, then use their lack of cooperation or them dragging their own feet as evidence that the investigation was not done well.
00:31:06.220And I think to some degree, that's what we're seeing here.
00:31:09.080With respect to the autopsy, this is the same problem that we've had throughout this, even when they came up with the independent autopsy back on July 22nd, which is they focus really hard on language that is inflammatory or that they believe to be inflammatory, right?
00:31:24.140And they do that to the exclusion of other explanations or other evidence that makes it clear that what they're saying really isn't as inflammatory as they would suggest.
00:31:33.660So as an example, they kept saying the throat and the lungs were missing early on.
00:31:38.680Their own pathologist said that what the ME had done was standard practice or that it was rightfully done.
00:31:45.100The same thing is happening right now around the use of the words blunt force trauma.
00:31:49.620um you know first of all i think you could quibble as to whether or not bruising is indication of
00:31:54.740blunt force trauma or not i think the other thing that you mentioned that is incredibly important is
00:31:59.680neither of the pathologists including their pathologist suggests that that was the cause
00:32:05.060of nolan well's death and you had a witness that says that nolan had hit his head slipping off the
00:32:11.280side of another boat earlier in the day before either the trident or the tide line left at 4 30
00:32:16.440And so, first of all, we're talking about a different boat. Let's make that clear. Second of all, there's a plausible explanation for it and one which neither pathologist identifies the cause of death.
00:32:29.200Now, on the notion of dry drowning, I mean, I think if you talk to any pathologist very early on about this, they could tell you that.
00:32:35.880I think if you did even like a rudimentary Google search, you would know that drowning is a diagnosis of exclusion.
00:32:42.800And in this instance, they were not able to identify any other cause of his death.
00:32:49.260And so people who are saying, you know, oh, there wasn't water in the lungs or there wasn't water in the stomach.
00:32:55.000One, that is not a scientific analysis for for his legal team to be putting it out there to suggest that this is proof that he didn't drown is inconsistent with their own pathologist.
00:33:06.180They know very well that there is the possibility of dry drowning.
00:33:09.280It happens, they say, in from between 10 to 15 percent of the cases back to Dr. Kendall Crowns, who has no horse in this race at all.
00:33:17.480This is the chief medical examiner of a district in Fort Worth.
00:33:22.660So this is what he says about dry drowning.
00:33:26.500There can be a reflex closure of the throat, laryngospasm,
00:33:30.240when water comes in contact with the larynx around the level of the vocal cords.
00:33:34.640The vocal cords suddenly tighten, which essentially closes the throat.
00:33:38.620The individual cannot breathe, nor can any water get in.
00:33:41.820Much like in drownings in which water is inhaled,
00:33:44.900the individual dies from anoxia or lack of oxygen,
00:36:30.260was drinking, was boating, was in the water, and that is a very dangerous combination.
00:36:37.240Yeah, I don't have anything to disagree with Dr. Kendall Crown's analysis on there. He's
00:36:40.940clearly a pathologist, and I don't claim to be one. I know that there is something to this idea
00:36:46.040that when you use decompositional fluid instead of blood for the testing, which this toxicology
00:36:51.460lab did, and it's important to note that this toxicology lab is an independent lab that states
00:36:55.880across the United States use. It's in Pennsylvania. It's called an NMS, very frequently used,
00:37:01.720so reputable outlet. But the decompositional fluid is a less reliable way to test than if
00:37:11.800you're testing blood. But it certainly would seem, based on everything that I've read and experience,
00:37:17.920that even if it raised the level, there certainly was a good amount of alcohol in the system.
00:37:22.280Yeah. I mean, the boys didn't try to deny that they were drinking there that day.
00:37:29.020And it looks like, I mean, if this is true, not only was Nolan drinking, but he really got his
00:37:33.900drink on in the hour before he went into the water and died. And Ben Crump, you know, very much wants
00:37:41.560us to believe that that contusion happened because, you know, your client's friends may
00:37:47.560have assaulted him. There's zero proof of that. That's what's true, Russ. Zero, zero. And both
00:37:53.060forensic evidence experts from the Crump team and the DA's team looked at that injury and said,
00:37:59.760no, that that did not kill Nolan Wells. That was not a life. It was a bruise at the base of the
00:38:03.420skull. That's it. Yeah. And, you know, I think, too, it's important to point out that, you know,
00:38:07.720as of August 13th, whenever the district attorney had asked them, do you have any evidence or
00:38:12.440witnesses that you think support criminality, that you think would support a finding of probable
00:38:16.820cause that a crime occurred, that they, of course, said no, that they had nothing that was germane,
00:38:20.780even though, you know, they had their pathologist, obviously, to go and testify. The report was
00:38:24.900available. Some of what Mr. Garrett did in terms of forensic analysis of the phone was made
00:38:28.780available as well. There's a dispute as to how much of that was made available and the timing of
00:38:32.860it. But the grand jury considered his report as well. But when directly asked the question,
00:38:40.400do you have anything that would support a finding of criminal conduct? The answer was,
00:38:44.920we don't have anything germane to that. And so for more than a month now, they've known that
00:38:50.740their own investigation did not return anything that showed criminal conduct, and they remained
00:38:55.880silent on it, right? They also are now putting out things like the cell phone information without
00:39:02.920talking about the contents of the actual messages, really. And so they have known for months what
00:39:09.860those snapchats show they know whether or not those snapchats show anything that is in any way
00:39:15.780uh incriminating the da apparently does as well and has made the point that they weren't all they
00:39:20.760showed was that his friends actually cared about him actually were concerned about what was going
00:39:25.600on i i say all this to say that mr crupp and his team have had the ability to put out the fire that
00:39:34.340they started. I think they lit a match very early on in this process and allowed it to burn through
00:39:41.180all of these surrogates on the internet, making up complete nonsense about people with no factual
00:39:48.380basis and no evidence. And they've had opportunity over the last couple of months, whether it was
00:39:55.680August 13th or whether it's now, to say very clearly, we've got no evidence that the boys
00:40:00.860access the phone. We've got no evidence that any of these boys did anything criminal to Nolan
00:40:05.860Wells. We've got no evidence that they hurt him in any way. And they're not willing to do that.
00:40:11.920They would rather subject people to legitimate death threats, legitimate harassment,
00:40:20.040than to be honest about their own findings. And I think, you know, we've got a real problem with
00:40:25.840that. Ben Crump is still pushing the lie. We talked about this the other day that Michael
00:40:31.900Brown was murdered by a police officer in Ferguson, Missouri. It is a lie. It is a lie.
00:40:39.700Five black witnesses who watched the altercation told Barack Obama's DOJ being run by a black man,
00:40:48.020Eric Holder, that it wasn't true that Michael Brown charged the officer and had tried to
00:40:53.820assault him prior to charging him. And Ben Crump still will not correct the record on that. I don't
00:41:00.560think he'll ever correct the record on what he's doing to these boys here. He doesn't care that
00:41:05.320they're young, they're minors, that they have their whole lives in front of them, that they're
00:41:09.980going to have to carry this around. He doesn't care that they were the ones who loved and knew
00:41:13.820Nolan, unlike Ben Crump. And the DA seems to have had about enough of the Ben Crump show.
00:41:19.860She issued this statement just this week. Here's Sot 6.
00:41:24.400The narrative that three white boys and a black boy went to an island and only three white friends returned spread like wildfire.
00:41:33.160This was false. There is absolutely no evidence to support the allegations that Nolan's disappearance and death were racially motivated.
00:41:42.420Nolan's friends love Nolan and Nolan loved them.
00:41:47.480Nolan chose to stay on the island that day, and there is not a scintilla of evidence to contradict that.
00:41:52.860The family, the Crump team, and anyone close to Nolan knew that his disappearance and death were not the result of racial hate or violence.
00:42:05.400Yet the flames of that narrative, set against the backdrop of Mississippi's terrible history, were fanned by both people who knew the truth and those who didn't.
00:42:14.960I cannot tell you how difficult it is observing people create narratives detrimental to our
00:42:23.220community when I have true knowledge that I cannot legally or ethically share.
00:42:28.900But my job requires discipline and restraint.
00:42:32.720I am responsible for protecting the integrity of active investigations, and I will always
00:42:38.700make decisions that most faithfully protect and respect the law regardless of circumstances.
00:42:45.360That is the difference between an attorney whose duty is owed to an individual client
00:42:50.000and a district attorney whose duty is owed to the community as a whole.
00:42:56.000Oh, I mean, I can feel her frustration.
00:42:58.880And then in her paper statement, she writes,
00:43:01.260my interactions with Mr. Crump, as well as his conduct in this case,
00:43:05.660have demonstrated that he is not worthy of our trust.
00:43:09.340I did not expect that his characterization and representations in this case
00:47:57.200I think they've been exploited in their time of grief.
00:48:00.400And this is yet their their victims have been crumped, too, because they, too, like my friends, the Barkley's could be getting comforted by your client and the other boys who I'm sure would love to have a healing moment with Nolan's parents, but now cannot.
00:48:13.420Yeah, look, I think that entire community continues to pray for the Wansley family, for Nolan's family.
00:48:20.340You know, it certainly has been a difficult situation because without the level of division that's been been created, these families would all be wrapping their arms around that family.
00:48:31.480And so I think I think in a lot of ways it's disrupted the natural progress or process of healing here.
00:48:38.300I just would reiterate, though, at some level that that group of friends or those friendships that we're talking about are the exact opposite of the way that people are now portraying Mississippi and the Mississippi Gulf Coast.
00:48:53.860The depth of that friendship was proof of something that transcends the racial tension that Mr. Crump and others are now trying to create.
00:49:04.420And it's really disheartening and disappointing, but maybe not entirely unexpected based upon
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00:51:26.400All right, we're finally getting into this case of the Ohio pastor, Caleb Flynn, former American Idol contestant who very clearly murdered his wife.
00:51:38.520He denies it. He's pleaded not guilty.
00:51:40.920All right, that did happen. And this case broke months ago. The murder happened February 16th of 2026.
00:51:50.380So it's relatively recent, but it's been in the news for a while.
00:51:53.880Um, and people always suspect the husband.
00:51:58.640I mean, in 90% of the cases, it is the husband and, you know, just kind of, he didn't have
01:01:02.340So he's totally distraught, he would have you believe.
01:01:05.700I don't think anybody believed it since he was under arrest in four days.
01:01:09.140He wanted cops to believe that an intruder had come into his home in the middle of the night and shot his wife and that he was allegedly in the children's room at the time.
01:01:18.220Again, they have two daughters at the time this happened last February.
01:02:56.240That's kind of the only two facts that the defense has going for it, that there's no gunshot residue on him and that there's no murder weapon.
01:03:05.600There is a nine millimeter weapon of his that's missing and unaccounted for.
01:03:10.480And one of the incriminating things we heard in the 911 call was him saying she's been shot twice.
01:03:16.880She had two shots, he said, in the head.
01:03:18.940And what the forensic examiners have said is that would have been impossible to know, that you shoot somebody in the head in that situation, and especially if you do shoot them twice, the head is going to be such a mess that no person just coming into the room would understand it was multiple gunshots.
01:04:02.680So you're seeing hair and brain matter and blood obscuring what eventually is determined to be two gunshot wounds to the back of the right side of the head.
01:04:17.080Just viewing this photo, can you tell how many gunshot wounds there are?
01:07:20.160A tragedy deserves more than a theory.
01:07:24.060Okay. That might have worked without the text messages, but there, I mean, unless we have another Casey Anthony situation on our hands, like a bunch of dumb jurors who are easily misled, sorry, they should come to the right conclusion rather easily.
01:07:39.980um here's what happened the two daughters were told after their father was arrested that he was
01:07:47.120being charged with killing their mother these poor girls at this tender age have now lost both
01:07:52.160parents their mom is dead their dad is under arrest for having done it and um Ashley's sister
01:08:00.080the young girl's aunt testified about the two daughters and telling them saying that they were
01:08:06.540heartbroken at the time, but she elaborated just a bit as follows.
01:08:11.960What was their reaction to understanding that there was an affair with someone that
01:16:12.620I didn't mean it. I didn't mean it. You're playing with fire, sister. It's all fun and games until
01:16:19.080the wife winds up dead and two little girls have lost their mom. No one gives a shit about your
01:16:24.480stupid tears. Good luck. Here's a bit of how it looked. It's actually very interesting. I went
01:16:32.920back and looked at the coverage from February of 2026 until this week, and it's been like nothing.
01:16:39.580They didn't know there was a rumor about this gal possibly being his affair partner, but nobody knew what the prosecution had in its back pocket with these texts.
01:16:49.100And it would be bad enough if they were steamy and like, I want you, I want to be with you.
01:17:07.040I love it when the terrible people are dumb.
01:17:09.580So here's a few. Okay, we'll start a year ago. March of 2025. Murder happened in February of 26. Flynn, that's Caleb. It's basically Caleb and Alea. Caleb, I just want her dead and gone. Alea, what can I do? Caleb, kill her. Caleb, May 16th, 2025. If I could literally kill her and not go to hell, I would do it in a heartbeat. That's how dark and hateful I feel.
01:35:06.020I did not find anything on the cell phone to indicate she was involved in an extramarital affair.
01:35:13.000She said there were text messages between husband and wife, Ashley and Caleb, in January and part of February that did reveal some of Ashley's frustrations.
01:35:21.880Quote, there was a message where Caleb stated he was worshiping and that he would call Ashley back later.
01:35:26.780Ashley responded, he could be honest and asked, is it her?
01:35:30.620and it has come out that she was aware, she became aware thanks to seeing a text message exchange
01:35:36.780of his affair with Alea. Clearly wanted it to end and it didn't. The only time it ended was a month
01:35:44.740before the murder when Alea ended it. And he appears to have dealt with that in the most
01:35:51.420severe fashion possible. It's gotten very, very dark in there. Here is even Aaliyah turning on
01:35:59.960him now in Sot 23 from The Stand. How would you describe your feelings for the defendant today?
01:36:10.820I hate him. Have you ever felt differently about him? Yes. When? And how did you feel?
01:36:47.620in the time we have left, we have got to talk about Kamala Harris. So we played the soundbite
01:36:53.160for you yesterday with Glenn of the, like the new, what the renewed black scent, right? It was
01:37:01.160very strange. Like is, it is not important to, I can't like half drunk and half like she's from
01:37:10.880the street. Okay, sure. It's very strange. And if I may, insulting to black people when she adopts
01:37:18.720this accent as though, you know, that in her head is how a stereotypical black person sounds.
01:37:23.540But she was in front of the NAACP and she went for it. Now she's gone on this podcast called
01:37:31.720Big Boy TV. And my friends, she's at it again. Not exactly with the accent, but with the absolutely
01:37:40.000nonsensical talk in which she tries to sound smart about something in this case algorithms
01:37:47.300but isn't watch if you keep seeing the same thing over and over again know that you are being
01:37:54.360targeted because you looked at it the first time they're just gonna keep sending it to you which
01:37:58.920means they're trying to dumb people down with the assumption that people don't have any interest
01:38:05.040beyond what they've already seen think about that oh yeah the algorithm right but the algorithm
01:38:09.700suggesting i have no more interest because i'm looking at this yellow flower i'm only interested
01:38:16.760in yellow flowers so here's more yellow as though my brain can't handle the fact that there may be
01:38:21.900a pink flower right right that i might be interested in looking at right and so part of
01:38:29.540it is understanding how the algorithm is manipulating us and figuring out how we're
01:38:35.120gonna psych it out a bit oh my god i can you imagine if she were like your mother and you
01:38:43.460had no choice but to sit around the dinner table and be forced to listen to that i i'm starting to
01:38:47.600understand doug emhoff's daughter the one who's got like the weird look and she kind of looks
01:38:52.860androgynous and she's supposedly a runway model a lot better starting to get it it's like a
01:38:59.500rebellion against years sitting around family dinner tables and holidays with that. What?
01:39:05.520She's such a simpleton. She never says anything inspirational, informational. Half the time,
01:39:12.620she's wrong factually. And the other half, she's just breaking out her latest accent and doing a
01:39:17.580pander. Let's take another deep dive into this interview. Thought 32 about power and hope.
01:39:25.180you know how do you tell someone either it's going to be okay or things could change when
01:39:32.920when you actually look out and what's in front of you is extremely scary you know i believe in
01:39:39.480the power of the people and that includes believing that part of our hope comes from
01:39:49.780our ability to fight for what we know is right and then to see the progress and and the potential
01:39:59.300for the progress and let that give us hope what right i believe very strongly if you feel powerless
01:40:05.820you are powerless if you feel powerful you are you are powerful and we are powerful
01:40:12.800but but but knowing that is what makes it happen and so if we're feeling hopeless
01:40:22.700we are less likely to feel powerful and i believe you should never let anybody take your power from
01:40:32.120you oh my god remember this we were subjected to this for like a year a year like that's how it
01:40:42.140felt. I guess it was 104 days, technically, but it felt like 10 years of hard labor and sing-sing.
01:40:51.880I'm triggered. Are you triggered? I'm triggered. That brought me right back
01:40:55.640to the campaign and how painful her inanities were. 107 days of nightmarish
01:41:04.480pablum. She's spoon fed to random media fools who pretended she was saying something profound like
01:41:13.180Oprah, Kamala Harris. There's one more. I'm sorry to be doing this to you. This is very cruel for
01:41:20.020a Friday afternoon. But if I have to hear it, so do you. Here we go. South 34. You're the people
01:41:27.220person and you want to see that there's a texture to you and there's a texture of being human
01:41:35.040and i think that's what what we see in you and what we feel we're missing we're missing we're
01:41:41.000missing i feel like we're missing a human quality right now yeah you know and i'm pretty sure you
01:41:45.160probably feel we have to see it in each other right it gets back to your point about hopelessness
01:41:51.620We have to, you know, you see it, I can see it in your eyes and in your speech when you talk about your son and your daughter and your wife.
01:42:02.800We have to see it in your team, right?