The Megyn Kelly Show

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00:00:30.660 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show,

00:00:32.540 live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:42.200 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

00:00:43.980 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show,

00:00:45.240 live from Montana,

00:00:47.120 day four of our trip here to Montana.

00:00:50.100 And the news today is absolutely out there.

00:00:53.820 We've got probably the most bizarre

00:00:56.200 but compelling set of headlines

00:00:58.180 we've had on the show in a while.

00:01:00.180 Don Lemon goes on CNN after it fires him

00:01:03.260 to complain about his new boss,

00:01:05.720 Elon Musk.

00:01:08.580 Okay, we'll get to that.

00:01:09.780 That'll be really fun with the guys

00:01:11.380 from Ruthless who are coming up.

00:01:13.120 Plus, we're going to dive into new polling

00:01:15.020 that shows absolutely zero bump

00:01:17.400 for President Biden

00:01:18.620 after his big State of the Union address.

00:01:21.020 Wait, the yelling didn't work?

00:01:22.440 What do you mean?

00:01:22.920 I thought that mainstream media told us

00:01:24.680 this was like the thing

00:01:25.920 that was going to turn it all around.

00:01:27.220 Well, the latest polls show,

00:01:28.460 Trump has gone up, if anything.

00:01:30.920 But first, as the nation awaits,

00:01:33.140 Fulton County Superior Judge

00:01:34.880 Scott McAfee's decision

00:01:37.300 on whether to disqualify

00:01:39.100 Fannie Willis from prosecuting

00:01:40.500 former President Donald Trump,

00:01:41.760 among others.

00:01:42.720 The judge issued a different

00:01:44.800 blockbuster ruling yesterday.

00:01:46.480 And I'm sure you heard about this,

00:01:48.340 maybe on some other news sources.

00:01:49.540 He dismissed six counts

00:01:51.060 of the indictment

00:01:51.740 against some of the Trump defendants.

00:01:53.660 It dismissed three against Trump.

00:01:56.200 And what's really interesting,

00:01:58.260 because the case still lives

00:01:59.380 against Trump and the others

00:02:00.520 in Atlanta,

00:02:02.180 but that decision

00:02:04.460 may provide some tea leaves

00:02:06.400 regarding which way

00:02:07.780 he's leaning on Fannie.

00:02:10.840 You know, it's not 100% clear.

00:02:12.520 I'll just outline the ruling

00:02:13.720 just a little bit.

00:02:14.500 And then joining me in one second

00:02:15.480 is going to be Alan Dershowitz.

00:02:17.280 But basically, he said

00:02:18.380 that Fannie and Nathan

00:02:20.340 failed to draft an indictment

00:02:22.980 that really stated

00:02:23.980 an adequate cause

00:02:25.640 that the defendants could understand

00:02:27.420 in six of the counts.

00:02:29.160 They were supposed to provide them notice

00:02:30.840 with what they were being charged with.

00:02:32.680 And it was a violation

00:02:33.980 of the Constitution.

00:02:36.840 Well, said Judge McAfee,

00:02:39.520 you're going to have to be

00:02:40.480 a little bit more specific than that,

00:02:42.420 because that could include

00:02:44.140 hundreds of provisions

00:02:45.600 in the Constitution,

00:02:47.300 and that's inadequate drafting.

00:02:49.400 So those counts are now gone,

00:02:51.300 though, if Fannie Willis

00:02:52.880 or whoever's prosecuting this case

00:02:54.600 wants to try to go back

00:02:56.120 in front of another grand jury

00:02:57.320 and get them reindicted,

00:03:00.400 more carefully drafted,

00:03:02.420 she can.

00:03:03.220 That's required under Georgia law.

00:03:05.680 Under federal law,

00:03:06.900 you could just redraft your indictment.

00:03:09.640 But under Georgia law,

00:03:10.660 the judge pointed out,

00:03:12.060 you have to go all the way back

00:03:13.720 in front of a new grand jury.

00:03:15.300 And right now,

00:03:15.620 the whole case is paused

00:03:16.960 as they're dealing

00:03:18.400 with the disqualification issue.

00:03:21.200 And that's where I want to begin

00:03:22.840 with my first guest today.

00:03:26.920 Professor Emeritus

00:03:27.740 of Harvard Law School

00:03:28.620 and host of The Durs Show podcast,

00:03:31.260 Alan Durshowitz.

00:03:32.160 Professor, great to have you here.

00:03:33.500 How are you doing this morning?

00:03:34.440 I'm doing great.

00:03:35.200 But, you know,

00:03:35.580 really, it's the judge

00:03:36.440 who's on trial now.

00:03:37.300 Everybody in America knows

00:03:38.640 that Fannie Willis 0.97

00:03:39.500 and her boyfriend

00:03:40.780 and her witness lied.

00:03:43.200 The real issue

00:03:44.160 was whether they should

00:03:44.880 be prosecuted, disbarred,

00:03:46.880 prosecuted for perjury,

00:03:48.500 for conspiracy,

00:03:49.420 for obstruction of justice.

00:03:50.600 Nobody watching

00:03:51.300 those testimony

00:03:52.040 could believe a word of that.

00:03:54.000 I mean, you have these pings

00:03:55.140 of the cell towers

00:03:56.720 showing that he's near her house

00:03:58.960 at 10 o'clock at night,

00:04:00.480 that he leaves at 4 in the morning.

00:04:01.860 They were not playing Scrabble.

00:04:03.420 And this was well before

00:04:04.680 she hired him at $700,000.

00:04:08.200 If this judge believes them,

00:04:10.620 it will really

00:04:11.540 disserve the interests

00:04:12.920 of justice.

00:04:14.220 Everybody knows

00:04:15.200 that they're lying.

00:04:16.420 And therefore,

00:04:16.940 there is a real conflict

00:04:18.420 of interest.

00:04:19.420 But I suspect the judge

00:04:20.500 is not going to have

00:04:21.120 the courage to find that.

00:04:23.300 Maybe he'll find

00:04:23.980 an apparent conflict

00:04:24.920 or a possible conflict

00:04:26.380 or an appearance,

00:04:27.800 but that may not be enough

00:04:29.020 under Georgia law.

00:04:29.860 So it's Georgia

00:04:30.560 that's on trial now.

00:04:32.060 It's the judge

00:04:33.080 who's on trial.

00:04:33.900 And we're a long way

00:04:35.380 from Donald Trump

00:04:36.680 and his co-defendants

00:04:38.880 being on trial.

00:04:39.800 It's really a funny Willis

00:04:41.100 who's on trial

00:04:41.800 and the judge.

00:04:42.500 Yeah, we certainly are.

00:04:44.060 I mean, eventually,

00:04:44.940 maybe we'll get back

00:04:45.800 to Donald Trump

00:04:46.480 if she survives

00:04:47.820 and if her case survives

00:04:49.040 eventually,

00:04:49.840 but it's not going to be

00:04:50.540 pre-election at this point.

00:04:52.220 So let me ask you

00:04:53.060 about this, Professor.

00:04:54.220 Paul Sperry,

00:04:55.480 he gets a lot of scoops.

00:04:57.220 We've had him on the show before.

00:04:58.200 He does these deep investigations

00:04:59.520 for Real Clear.

00:05:00.160 And he's sent out

00:05:02.740 a couple of tweets

00:05:03.620 citing a source

00:05:04.880 close to the judge.

00:05:06.340 Now, we don't know

00:05:07.500 whether this person

00:05:08.400 actually is in a position

00:05:10.380 to know what the judge

00:05:11.280 is thinking,

00:05:12.020 but the second tweet,

00:05:13.160 we brought the first one

00:05:13.900 to our audience last week,

00:05:15.000 the second Paul Sperry tweet

00:05:16.540 reads as follows.

00:05:18.780 Judge McAfee

00:05:19.720 views cell phone data

00:05:21.940 and the Terrence Bradley texts

00:05:23.740 as suggestive

00:05:25.400 but not dispositive

00:05:27.000 or as enough proof

00:05:29.540 to settle the matter,

00:05:31.180 according to an Atlanta attorney

00:05:32.520 familiar with his thinking.

00:05:34.240 Texts provide no insight

00:05:36.600 into how Terrence Bradley

00:05:38.020 would know,

00:05:39.900 meaning that they had an affair

00:05:41.080 long before 2022.

00:05:42.640 Did he see them?

00:05:44.240 Wade told him.

00:05:46.240 Now, that is an interesting thought

00:05:48.660 that the judge

00:05:49.420 is getting ready

00:05:50.220 to dismiss evidence

00:05:51.840 of the cell phone data,

00:05:53.800 that many texts

00:05:54.600 between these two

00:05:55.380 long before they admit

00:05:56.580 their affair took place

00:05:57.680 and the middle-of-the-night visits

00:05:59.820 as the texts

00:06:00.820 seem to suggest

00:06:02.140 and so on,

00:06:03.220 and also Bradley's texts

00:06:06.060 to Nathan Wade

00:06:08.380 or to Ashley Merchant

00:06:10.000 saying, you know,

00:06:11.020 it began well before

00:06:12.120 because he's saying

00:06:13.220 the texts don't actually show

00:06:14.520 Bradley had personal knowledge

00:06:16.040 of it.

00:06:16.260 It could have been speculation.

00:06:18.840 If any of that is true,

00:06:20.280 how do you see it?

00:06:22.260 That's just dead wrong.

00:06:23.380 There are people on death row

00:06:24.560 I have a client in prison

00:06:26.040 on far, far less compelling evidence

00:06:28.920 of pings and tweets

00:06:30.840 and self-hours.

00:06:32.020 She put people in prison 0.98

00:06:33.440 based on that.

00:06:34.120 If this judge

00:06:34.960 doesn't conclude

00:06:36.380 beyond any doubt

00:06:37.820 that there was

00:06:39.660 an improper relationship,

00:06:41.360 also,

00:06:42.180 is there any doubt

00:06:43.260 that she never paid back

00:06:44.420 the money?

00:06:45.280 What lawyer

00:06:46.340 who has to comply

00:06:48.040 with ethics rules

00:06:49.080 would ever not have a record

00:06:50.820 of paying back money?

00:06:51.740 You have bank deposits,

00:06:53.440 withdrawals,

00:06:54.080 you have a photograph

00:06:54.780 of the money being paid,

00:06:55.960 but for her to make up

00:06:57.020 a story that she

00:06:58.000 paid the money back

00:06:59.260 and has one piece

00:07:00.040 of evidence

00:07:00.500 that once she paid

00:07:02.180 for a wine tasting

00:07:03.760 with cash,

00:07:05.300 there are so many people

00:07:06.740 in prison

00:07:07.280 for long term

00:07:08.220 on less evidence

00:07:09.160 than that.

00:07:10.020 If this judge

00:07:10.800 doesn't believe that

00:07:11.980 or says he doesn't believe it,

00:07:13.040 he wouldn't be telling

00:07:13.700 the truth.

00:07:14.360 I can tell you

00:07:15.080 with 100% certainty

00:07:16.560 that this judge

00:07:17.920 sitting there

00:07:18.440 knows absolutely

00:07:20.200 that this affair

00:07:21.520 occurred before,

00:07:22.640 that the money

00:07:23.120 wasn't paid back,

00:07:24.240 that they committed perjury,

00:07:25.620 that they conspired

00:07:26.360 to commit perjury.

00:07:27.520 But judges sometimes

00:07:28.460 pretend that they

00:07:30.020 don't believe testimony

00:07:31.260 or believe testimony

00:07:32.160 in order to spare themselves.

00:07:33.820 He doesn't want to look

00:07:34.500 the elected DA in the eye

00:07:35.700 and say,

00:07:36.480 you're a perjurer,

00:07:37.140 you should be in prison.

00:07:38.540 But there's absolutely

00:07:40.020 no doubt

00:07:41.300 that there's enough here

00:07:42.660 to disqualify.

00:07:44.160 And if he doesn't disqualify,

00:07:45.440 this whole case

00:07:47.180 will be subject

00:07:49.740 to all kinds

00:07:50.820 of criticism,

00:07:51.580 not only in the court

00:07:52.500 of public opinion,

00:07:53.620 but in the courts

00:07:54.300 of law as well.

00:07:55.160 I hope the judge

00:07:55.760 does the right thing,

00:07:56.560 but I've said

00:07:56.960 from the beginning,

00:07:57.560 I don't think he will.

00:07:58.400 I don't think he has the guts.

00:07:59.860 I don't think he has the courage

00:08:01.060 to tell the truth.

00:08:02.780 And I think he'll find a way

00:08:04.480 to weasel out of this thing

00:08:05.900 to say,

00:08:06.680 oh, well,

00:08:07.400 the cell tower,

00:08:08.380 who are you going to believe?

00:08:09.620 Me or your lying eyes?

00:08:11.340 Look,

00:08:11.840 she and he

00:08:12.980 had an affair

00:08:14.080 before they were appointed.

00:08:15.440 That is absolutely clear.

00:08:18.480 And her testimony

00:08:19.160 under oath

00:08:19.720 is perjury. 0.51

00:08:20.920 The evidence

00:08:21.300 is overwhelming

00:08:22.160 as to that.

00:08:23.520 And if the judge

00:08:24.080 pretends not to believe it,

00:08:26.240 there's a bridge

00:08:27.760 in Brooklyn

00:08:28.180 that I could sell him

00:08:29.060 as well.

00:08:29.500 But judges do that

00:08:30.280 all the time.

00:08:31.200 You know,

00:08:31.520 cops arrest people.

00:08:33.600 They say the drug dealer

00:08:34.800 dropped the drugs

00:08:36.120 on the floor.

00:08:36.700 That's lie number seven

00:08:37.900 on the list

00:08:38.480 of 10 lies.

00:08:39.920 Dropsy testimony. 0.96

00:08:41.300 And I've looked

00:08:41.820 in the eyes of judges

00:08:42.740 and they say,

00:08:43.180 well,

00:08:43.300 we believe this testimony.

00:08:44.520 And then,

00:08:45.500 you know,

00:08:45.800 two years later

00:08:46.440 after court,

00:08:47.020 you talk to the judge

00:08:47.840 and they'll say,

00:08:48.580 of course I never believed it.

00:08:49.620 Of course I knew

00:08:50.140 who was lying.

00:08:50.700 But I,

00:08:51.240 you know,

00:08:51.420 the person was guilty

00:08:52.380 and I just didn't want

00:08:53.420 the person to get off.

00:08:54.560 Judges play that game 0.94

00:08:55.840 all the time.

00:08:56.520 And if this judge

00:08:57.280 tries to play that game now,

00:08:59.360 a lot of lawyers

00:09:00.200 and a lot of people

00:09:01.040 like you and me

00:09:01.640 are going to be after him

00:09:02.600 because it will be

00:09:03.960 a disgrace

00:09:04.560 to the judicial system

00:09:05.780 if she's allowed

00:09:06.760 to continue.

00:09:07.520 It's a disgrace

00:09:08.400 to the legal system

00:09:09.180 if she's not disbarred

00:09:10.960 and not put in jail.

00:09:12.000 And I hope the people

00:09:12.780 of Fulton County

00:09:13.860 have enough sense

00:09:14.680 to throw her out of office 0.85

00:09:15.980 at least when it comes

00:09:16.820 to an election.

00:09:18.400 All right.

00:09:18.560 A couple of questions

00:09:19.120 on that.

00:09:20.000 Could the judge,

00:09:20.740 because I do want

00:09:21.320 to talk about

00:09:21.740 what import we glean

00:09:22.720 from the dismissal

00:09:23.660 of those six counts.

00:09:24.840 I mean,

00:09:25.220 but let me just table

00:09:26.140 that for one second.

00:09:27.320 Let's table it for one second

00:09:28.160 and ask you,

00:09:28.900 do you think

00:09:29.940 there's a way

00:09:30.980 in which this judge

00:09:31.780 could say,

00:09:33.380 I'm not going

00:09:34.680 to kick her off 0.99

00:09:35.300 this case.

00:09:36.360 I'm not going

00:09:37.000 to maybe even kick

00:09:37.900 Nathan Wade off the case,

00:09:39.040 though I think,

00:09:39.580 you know,

00:09:39.780 most people agree

00:09:40.400 he's probably gone.

00:09:41.240 But let's say he says,

00:09:42.680 I'm not going

00:09:43.420 to kick them off the case.

00:09:44.780 Any disciplinary matters

00:09:46.440 involving their misleading

00:09:48.960 of this court

00:09:50.120 really are a matter

00:09:51.640 for the bar.

00:09:52.720 And so I don't know.

00:09:53.560 I don't approve it.

00:09:54.480 I don't like it,

00:09:55.280 but I don't see his grounds

00:09:56.300 for disqualification.

00:09:57.320 This is really just

00:09:57.940 an ethical matter

00:09:58.720 for the bar.

00:10:00.480 He could say that

00:10:01.640 that would be a cop out,

00:10:03.280 but he could say that.

00:10:04.780 And also,

00:10:05.400 I think his dismissal

00:10:06.340 of the six counts

00:10:07.700 basically was a message

00:10:09.420 by,

00:10:09.980 see,

00:10:10.200 I'm fair.

00:10:11.100 I don't rule

00:10:11.920 in favor of her

00:10:12.820 every time.

00:10:13.660 I took that dismissal

00:10:15.120 of the six counts

00:10:15.860 as a signal

00:10:16.960 that he was not

00:10:17.620 going to disqualify

00:10:18.380 the whole office.

00:10:19.420 Otherwise,

00:10:19.880 he would have waited

00:10:20.660 to see

00:10:21.660 whether the new office

00:10:23.640 was going to stand

00:10:24.980 by that

00:10:25.540 or maybe reindict.

00:10:27.000 So I think

00:10:27.960 that your source

00:10:28.720 is probably correct.

00:10:29.780 And,

00:10:30.300 you know,

00:10:30.760 I think it was Levin

00:10:32.040 on Fox News

00:10:33.300 who called me

00:10:33.740 the Nostradamus

00:10:34.900 of lawyers

00:10:37.100 because I get

00:10:37.840 my predictions

00:10:38.340 right all the time

00:10:39.100 because I don't make

00:10:39.640 predictions based

00:10:40.300 on wishful thinking.

00:10:41.820 So my prediction here

00:10:43.320 is that he's going

00:10:43.920 to figure out a way

00:10:44.900 of not completely

00:10:46.100 and totally

00:10:46.760 disqualifying them.

00:10:48.340 Maybe he'll say

00:10:48.800 there's an appearance,

00:10:49.840 but the appearance

00:10:50.640 isn't enough

00:10:51.340 under the law.

00:10:53.520 But whatever he says,

00:10:55.080 if he suggests

00:10:56.600 that you can believe

00:10:58.560 anything she said,

00:10:59.860 he should not be

00:11:00.540 on the bench

00:11:01.040 because he would not

00:11:02.060 be telling the truth.

00:11:03.260 He does not believe her.

00:11:05.320 I guarantee you

00:11:06.340 he's smart enough.

00:11:07.860 Do you know anybody

00:11:08.900 who actually,

00:11:09.420 even CNN,

00:11:10.720 even CNN,

00:11:12.300 many of their

00:11:12.960 legal commentators

00:11:13.940 who were always wrong

00:11:15.120 say they didn't believe her.

00:11:16.840 They didn't believe him.

00:11:17.360 It's not enough here

00:11:18.020 to disqualify,

00:11:19.000 but we don't believe her.

00:11:19.940 If you don't believe her,

00:11:21.080 she's committed perjury. 1.00

00:11:22.420 And if you don't believe

00:11:23.400 both of them,

00:11:24.100 they've committed

00:11:24.660 perjury,

00:11:25.620 obstruction of justice,

00:11:26.640 and conspiracy

00:11:27.380 to commit perjury.

00:11:28.440 Again,

00:11:28.740 let me emphasize

00:11:29.560 one more time.

00:11:30.900 She put people 0.93

00:11:31.940 in prison

00:11:32.500 on less evidence

00:11:33.600 than is now

00:11:34.440 against her.

00:11:35.740 What hypocrisy.

00:11:37.620 All right.

00:11:38.180 So the judge

00:11:39.160 issues this decision

00:11:40.160 dismissing six counts

00:11:41.280 of the indictment.

00:11:42.340 I agree.

00:11:43.100 My first instinct

00:11:43.840 when I saw it

00:11:44.420 was he's trying to show

00:11:45.540 I did something

00:11:46.860 that was good for Trump.

00:11:48.480 And then maybe

00:11:49.660 later this week

00:11:50.380 he's going to say,

00:11:51.180 and I did something

00:11:51.920 that was good

00:11:52.560 for Trump's prosecutor

00:11:53.520 by keeping

00:11:54.340 Fannie Willis

00:11:55.000 on the case.

00:11:56.100 I think we can

00:11:57.140 probably glean

00:11:58.800 he's definitely

00:11:59.760 not going to grant

00:12:00.400 the motion

00:12:00.940 to dismiss this case

00:12:02.160 entirely because

00:12:03.300 of Fannie's alleged

00:12:04.120 conflict because

00:12:05.260 why else would he be

00:12:06.280 reducing six counts

00:12:08.000 from it?

00:12:09.060 Yeah.

00:12:09.280 That's the right decision.

00:12:10.320 I don't think he dismissed

00:12:11.140 this whole case.

00:12:11.860 Yeah.

00:12:12.460 Yeah.

00:12:12.740 All right.

00:12:13.000 So that's that.

00:12:13.920 Here's another thing

00:12:14.820 that we found

00:12:15.400 this soundbite

00:12:16.020 from the judge

00:12:16.720 speaking with

00:12:17.680 the local radio station

00:12:18.900 last week.

00:12:20.180 And he was being

00:12:21.320 asked, Alan,

00:12:22.280 about his new

00:12:23.700 left-wing challenger

00:12:25.940 to his judge seat

00:12:27.500 which he's now

00:12:28.480 got to run

00:12:28.860 for re-election on.

00:12:29.660 He was unchallenged

00:12:30.700 and then at the last

00:12:31.740 minute this guy

00:12:32.760 who's from the

00:12:33.220 Rainbow Push

00:12:33.860 Jesse Jackson

00:12:34.540 coalition

00:12:35.020 throws his hat

00:12:35.980 in the ring

00:12:36.320 and he's now

00:12:36.720 challenging him

00:12:37.560 from the left.

00:12:38.600 And he was asked

00:12:39.620 about that

00:12:40.660 and how if at all

00:12:41.480 it might weigh

00:12:42.200 on his decision

00:12:43.020 over Fannie 0.75

00:12:43.980 and here's what

00:12:45.120 he said.

00:12:46.500 I've had a rough

00:12:47.300 draft and an outline

00:12:48.400 before I ever

00:12:49.660 heard a rumor

00:12:50.240 that someone wanted

00:12:51.180 to run for this

00:12:51.740 position.

00:12:52.280 So the result

00:12:52.880 is not going

00:12:53.820 to change

00:12:54.480 because of politics.

00:12:55.760 I'm calling it

00:12:56.880 as best I can

00:12:58.100 in the law

00:12:58.620 as I understand it.

00:13:01.420 Okay.

00:13:02.100 Now my very smart

00:13:03.700 law school friend

00:13:04.600 who listens to the

00:13:05.440 show every day,

00:13:06.740 she's a lawyer 0.71

00:13:07.220 like you and I are,

00:13:08.500 and she says

00:13:10.020 she thinks from that

00:13:12.040 and I think

00:13:12.540 she's got a good

00:13:13.100 point.

00:13:14.520 The only reason

00:13:15.520 he would remind us

00:13:17.420 that he had

00:13:18.540 drafted a decision

00:13:20.840 before he got

00:13:22.320 the challenge

00:13:22.820 from the left

00:13:23.520 would be if he's

00:13:25.100 about to rule

00:13:26.080 that Fannie 0.99

00:13:27.100 can stay

00:13:27.560 on the case

00:13:28.160 because he

00:13:29.260 wouldn't need

00:13:29.780 to reassure us

00:13:30.840 that he had

00:13:32.440 drafted anything

00:13:33.340 to, you know,

00:13:34.360 deal with a competitor

00:13:35.340 if it was going

00:13:36.060 to be against

00:13:37.040 Fannie, right? 0.72

00:13:37.780 Like, he wouldn't

00:13:38.700 draft an opinion

00:13:39.260 getting rid of Fannie 1.00

00:13:40.180 in order to

00:13:40.600 appease the left.

00:13:42.000 So I do,

00:13:43.360 I think she might

00:13:44.000 be on to something

00:13:44.660 there that that

00:13:45.660 statement may have

00:13:46.980 telegraphed he's

00:13:47.900 about to rule

00:13:48.640 in favor of Fannie 0.76

00:13:49.560 Willis staying

00:13:50.060 on the case.

00:13:50.500 What do you think?

00:13:50.920 I agree with that.

00:13:52.400 I think all the

00:13:53.120 signs point in

00:13:54.140 that direction

00:13:54.840 and all the law

00:13:56.440 and the facts

00:13:57.000 point in the

00:13:57.560 opposite direction,

00:13:58.380 but I don't

00:13:59.700 think this judge

00:14:00.460 is going to do

00:14:00.960 justice in this

00:14:01.760 case.

00:14:02.120 I think he is

00:14:02.680 going to figure

00:14:03.140 out a way

00:14:03.800 of not having

00:14:05.100 her disqualified.

00:14:06.620 Look,

00:14:07.020 the worst thing

00:14:07.680 I've ever had to do

00:14:08.360 What about Nathan?

00:14:09.140 I know you won't

00:14:09.780 go as far as

00:14:10.320 Fannie in the office, 0.84

00:14:11.460 but what about

00:14:11.820 Nathan Wade?

00:14:13.120 That's easy.

00:14:14.020 He could say,

00:14:14.700 look,

00:14:15.180 the appearance

00:14:16.260 of justice,

00:14:17.240 I recommend

00:14:17.880 strongly that

00:14:19.020 he be taken

00:14:20.200 off the case

00:14:20.960 so that the

00:14:21.560 appearance of

00:14:22.260 injustice disappears.

00:14:24.140 That would be

00:14:24.500 an easy call

00:14:25.220 for him,

00:14:25.660 but it would

00:14:25.980 have no impact

00:14:26.720 on the case.

00:14:28.140 Look,

00:14:28.460 the worst thing

00:14:29.200 that ever happened

00:14:29.700 to the American

00:14:30.400 judicial system

00:14:31.280 is election

00:14:32.680 of judges,

00:14:33.440 election of

00:14:33.920 prosecutors.

00:14:34.540 We're the only

00:14:34.920 country in the

00:14:35.520 world,

00:14:35.960 the Western

00:14:36.280 world,

00:14:36.940 that elects

00:14:37.500 judges and

00:14:38.000 prosecutors,

00:14:38.760 and the

00:14:39.320 politics obviously

00:14:40.760 play a role

00:14:41.880 in all of these

00:14:42.700 decisions.

00:14:44.100 But I agree

00:14:44.880 with your friend.

00:14:45.440 I think she's

00:14:45.920 very insightful

00:14:46.600 that that

00:14:48.400 statement

00:14:48.960 suggests that

00:14:50.920 he is not

00:14:52.900 going to rule

00:14:54.300 in favor of

00:14:55.420 Donald Trump

00:14:56.520 on the

00:14:58.360 disqualification.

00:14:59.640 Again,

00:15:00.100 that's my

00:15:00.760 judgment.

00:15:01.620 I don't have

00:15:02.220 enough to make

00:15:02.820 a firm prediction,

00:15:04.320 but I hope

00:15:06.120 he rules the

00:15:06.640 other way,

00:15:07.120 but I often

00:15:07.780 predict against

00:15:08.460 my own wishes,

00:15:09.300 so that's my

00:15:10.280 prediction.

00:15:11.560 So let's

00:15:11.880 get ahead of

00:15:13.060 ourselves a bit

00:15:13.660 and say he

00:15:14.560 keeps her on

00:15:15.320 the case,

00:15:16.040 irrespective of

00:15:16.780 what happens

00:15:17.280 with Nathan

00:15:17.740 Wade,

00:15:18.060 that he keeps

00:15:18.520 Fannie Willis

00:15:19.060 on the

00:15:19.340 case.

00:15:20.600 What happens

00:15:22.360 as a realistic

00:15:23.820 matter in

00:15:24.900 now her

00:15:25.740 prosecution

00:15:26.560 against Donald

00:15:27.880 Trump and

00:15:28.440 these defendants,

00:15:29.280 now that the

00:15:29.740 whole nation

00:15:30.560 has had quite

00:15:31.820 an introduction

00:15:32.580 to this woman

00:15:33.460 and her

00:15:34.180 ethical bar?

00:15:35.800 Well,

00:15:36.240 first of all,

00:15:36.780 it becomes a

00:15:37.360 big appellate

00:15:37.920 issue.

00:15:38.340 Second of all,

00:15:38.980 good trial

00:15:39.480 lawyers could

00:15:39.900 try to figure

00:15:40.440 out a way

00:15:41.140 of getting

00:15:42.140 her credibility

00:15:43.360 somehow in

00:15:44.720 front of the

00:15:45.220 jury.

00:15:45.600 It's not an

00:15:46.040 easy thing to

00:15:46.740 do, but

00:15:47.860 the American

00:15:49.120 public does

00:15:49.820 not believe

00:15:50.580 Fannie Willis.

00:15:51.600 They don't

00:15:51.900 believe she's

00:15:52.480 a truth teller.

00:15:53.700 And if I'm a

00:15:54.800 defense attorney,

00:15:55.440 I try to take

00:15:56.160 as much advantage

00:15:56.960 of that in

00:15:57.940 every single

00:15:58.700 context, both

00:15:59.580 the trial and

00:16:00.120 on appeal.

00:16:00.780 So she's become

00:16:01.700 a big issue

00:16:02.280 now in this

00:16:02.840 case.

00:16:03.620 If she had

00:16:04.000 been smart,

00:16:04.600 she just 0.65

00:16:04.920 would have

00:16:05.180 recused

00:16:05.540 herself,

00:16:06.420 not the

00:16:06.780 office,

00:16:07.200 just recused

00:16:07.800 herself and

00:16:08.440 recused

00:16:08.880 him and

00:16:09.800 said,

00:16:10.380 this is bigger

00:16:10.960 than both

00:16:11.360 of us.

00:16:11.680 Let's get

00:16:11.940 on with

00:16:12.320 this.

00:16:12.560 But she

00:16:12.780 has an

00:16:13.080 enormous

00:16:13.440 ego.

00:16:14.320 The fact

00:16:14.680 that she

00:16:15.320 volunteered

00:16:15.860 the testimony

00:16:16.580 and bolted

00:16:17.440 into the

00:16:17.800 courtroom and

00:16:18.660 began to

00:16:19.140 tell what I

00:16:19.620 regard as

00:16:20.140 lie after

00:16:20.800 lie after

00:16:21.380 lie shows

00:16:22.740 I think what

00:16:23.560 kind of a

00:16:24.020 person she

00:16:24.580 is.

00:16:25.000 And I

00:16:25.600 would not

00:16:26.120 be proud

00:16:26.520 of that.

00:16:27.860 How do

00:16:28.020 you see

00:16:28.440 her breaches?

00:16:30.620 What's the

00:16:31.240 worst one?

00:16:31.920 Taking

00:16:32.200 money,

00:16:33.040 taking these

00:16:33.580 trips from

00:16:35.060 a guy she

00:16:35.660 brought in

00:16:36.120 who she's

00:16:36.480 paying more

00:16:36.860 than the

00:16:37.100 other

00:16:37.220 prosecutors?

00:16:37.800 Or is it

00:16:38.200 the lying

00:16:38.560 under oath?

00:16:39.480 How would

00:16:40.260 you rank

00:16:40.680 alleged sins?

00:16:42.300 It's not

00:16:42.620 even a

00:16:42.920 close question.

00:16:43.600 It's perjury.

00:16:44.900 Conspiracy to

00:16:45.600 commit perjury.

00:16:46.900 Obstruction of

00:16:47.640 justice.

00:16:48.740 And the

00:16:49.040 perjury involves

00:16:50.240 her having an

00:16:50.840 affair.

00:16:51.100 The affair

00:16:51.420 itself, I

00:16:52.820 think she

00:16:53.120 could have

00:16:53.480 explained and

00:16:54.700 justified.

00:16:56.100 Accepting

00:16:56.580 money?

00:16:57.000 No.

00:16:57.580 And the

00:16:57.880 idea that

00:16:58.580 she was

00:16:59.680 willing to

00:17:00.660 allow people

00:17:02.000 to accuse

00:17:02.720 her of

00:17:03.180 taking money

00:17:03.780 by not

00:17:04.200 keeping records

00:17:04.920 of payback.

00:17:05.760 Remember,

00:17:06.140 she has an

00:17:06.520 obligation.

00:17:07.060 Under the

00:17:08.020 code of

00:17:08.540 professional

00:17:09.260 and judicial

00:17:10.400 responsibility,

00:17:12.400 she has the

00:17:13.080 burden of

00:17:13.520 proving to

00:17:14.880 them that she

00:17:15.580 didn't take

00:17:16.000 any money.

00:17:17.400 Remember,

00:17:18.160 there is

00:17:18.560 proof that she

00:17:19.360 took money,

00:17:19.900 as the judge

00:17:20.380 found.

00:17:21.140 Proof by

00:17:21.820 cell phone

00:17:22.360 records and

00:17:23.020 by American

00:17:23.760 Express records.

00:17:24.460 Then the burden

00:17:24.980 should shift to

00:17:25.580 her to prove 0.99

00:17:27.180 that she paid

00:17:28.640 back.

00:17:29.020 And she can't

00:17:29.520 satisfy that

00:17:30.180 burden by

00:17:31.080 merely saying,

00:17:31.780 I paid

00:17:32.560 everything back

00:17:33.300 to the

00:17:33.580 penny.

00:17:34.760 Reasonably,

00:17:35.420 people would

00:17:36.520 not believe

00:17:37.020 that.

00:17:37.280 I certainly

00:17:37.620 don't believe

00:17:38.060 it.

00:17:39.380 And part of

00:17:40.560 the thing

00:17:40.840 that's bothering

00:17:41.620 me is some

00:17:43.140 of her

00:17:43.500 defenders are

00:17:44.200 trying to

00:17:44.740 pretend that

00:17:45.740 this judge

00:17:46.380 can't find

00:17:47.380 that she

00:17:48.060 perjured

00:17:48.500 herself or

00:17:49.400 that she

00:17:49.740 took these

00:17:50.300 unethical

00:17:51.440 kickbacks

00:17:52.120 unless he

00:17:53.080 can find

00:17:54.400 so beyond

00:17:54.840 any reasonable

00:17:56.460 doubt,

00:17:57.020 using the

00:17:57.580 criminal

00:17:57.980 justice

00:17:58.800 standard.

00:17:59.360 I don't

00:18:00.300 think that's

00:18:00.980 right.

00:18:01.320 I think

00:18:01.660 the judge

00:18:02.320 has got

00:18:02.600 plenty in

00:18:03.220 front of

00:18:03.560 him to

00:18:03.880 find she

00:18:04.780 did take

00:18:05.300 the kickbacks.

00:18:06.220 She did

00:18:06.480 not pay

00:18:06.960 cash.

00:18:07.380 I disbelieve

00:18:08.060 her testimony

00:18:08.620 and I also

00:18:09.580 believe this

00:18:10.140 Robin Yurty,

00:18:11.320 the longtime

00:18:11.880 friend of

00:18:12.660 Fannie Willis

00:18:13.340 who took

00:18:13.620 the stand

00:18:14.000 and said

00:18:14.320 under oath

00:18:14.860 they were

00:18:15.640 having an

00:18:16.040 affair going

00:18:16.560 back to

00:18:16.880 2019.

00:18:18.120 She told

00:18:18.580 me and I

00:18:19.380 saw it with

00:18:19.820 my own two

00:18:20.300 eyes.

00:18:20.920 Yes, she

00:18:21.180 got fired or

00:18:21.820 pushed out

00:18:22.160 of the office

00:18:22.560 by Fannie,

00:18:23.600 but is the

00:18:24.520 mere fact that

00:18:25.580 she got pushed

00:18:26.180 out of the

00:18:26.540 office enough to

00:18:27.140 totally discount

00:18:27.880 her testimony and

00:18:29.060 are they using

00:18:29.600 the right

00:18:29.980 burden in

00:18:31.020 assessing the

00:18:32.020 case that has

00:18:32.520 to be made?

00:18:33.900 Totally wrong

00:18:34.500 burden.

00:18:34.980 And remember,

00:18:35.560 you can just

00:18:36.000 quote Fannie

00:18:36.540 Willis.

00:18:36.940 She testified

00:18:37.580 under oath.

00:18:38.960 She said,

00:18:39.880 it's my

00:18:40.940 testimony that

00:18:41.720 I paid the

00:18:42.220 money back

00:18:42.940 in cash and

00:18:44.740 that's enough

00:18:45.300 evidence.

00:18:46.120 She herself

00:18:46.780 said the

00:18:47.580 testimony of

00:18:48.300 one person

00:18:48.920 is enough

00:18:49.760 evidence and

00:18:50.340 she's right

00:18:50.900 about that if

00:18:51.860 it's credible

00:18:52.400 and believable.

00:18:53.980 There's just

00:18:54.660 too much here

00:18:55.680 to allow a

00:18:56.540 judge in good

00:18:57.700 faith to say

00:18:58.620 he believes

00:18:59.900 her testimony,

00:19:01.160 he believes

00:19:02.040 Wade's testimony,

00:19:03.600 he believes

00:19:04.300 the other

00:19:04.640 testimony.

00:19:05.300 It's just

00:19:06.080 not credible

00:19:06.900 and he

00:19:07.680 doesn't have

00:19:08.200 to find it

00:19:08.680 beyond reasonable

00:19:09.380 doubt.

00:19:10.080 All he has

00:19:10.560 to do is

00:19:11.480 find it at

00:19:12.420 the most

00:19:13.000 by a

00:19:13.440 preponderance.

00:19:14.140 In fact,

00:19:14.440 I would

00:19:14.700 imagine a

00:19:15.220 judge saying,

00:19:15.740 look,

00:19:16.480 there's enough

00:19:17.240 evidence here

00:19:18.020 for there to

00:19:18.480 be enough

00:19:18.960 doubt about

00:19:19.980 the integrity

00:19:20.580 of the judicial

00:19:21.160 system that

00:19:22.300 on balance,

00:19:23.500 it's far

00:19:24.000 better to err

00:19:24.760 on the side

00:19:25.320 of disqualifying

00:19:26.200 her than 0.89

00:19:26.880 allowing her

00:19:27.620 to continue

00:19:28.280 when there

00:19:29.060 might well

00:19:29.600 have been

00:19:29.940 an actual

00:19:30.400 conflict of

00:19:31.060 interest.

00:19:31.280 That would

00:19:31.680 be the right

00:19:32.180 allocation of

00:19:33.180 burden.

00:19:33.900 But that's

00:19:35.120 not what's

00:19:35.500 going to happen.

00:19:36.140 This judge

00:19:36.500 doesn't have

00:19:37.000 the courage

00:19:37.400 to do this.

00:19:38.840 He's very

00:19:39.280 young.

00:19:39.660 He's only

00:19:39.880 34.

00:19:40.580 He is a

00:19:40.920 Republican.

00:19:41.440 He's a

00:19:41.660 camp-appointed

00:19:42.200 Republican.

00:19:42.800 But if he

00:19:43.780 doesn't win

00:19:44.280 this election,

00:19:44.980 he's out of

00:19:45.320 a job.

00:19:46.260 And it's

00:19:47.020 almost 73%

00:19:48.960 for Joe

00:19:49.300 Biden in this

00:19:49.800 county.

00:19:50.060 If he rules

00:19:53.980 that she's

00:19:54.660 telling the

00:19:55.140 truth, I

00:19:55.660 hope he's

00:19:56.000 out of a

00:19:56.340 job.

00:19:57.080 That would

00:19:57.400 be my

00:19:57.860 vote if

00:19:58.280 I were

00:19:58.540 down there.

00:19:59.300 He doesn't

00:19:59.920 seem like

00:20:00.380 that much

00:20:01.080 of a partisan

00:20:01.560 hack, but

00:20:02.100 we don't

00:20:02.340 know him

00:20:02.560 that well.

00:20:03.200 Let me

00:20:03.560 get you

00:20:03.900 before I

00:20:04.300 let you

00:20:04.520 go to

00:20:05.260 comment.

00:20:05.700 I don't

00:20:05.840 know if

00:20:05.980 you saw

00:20:06.180 this breaking

00:20:06.600 news on

00:20:07.000 Chuck Schumer,

00:20:07.880 highest ranking

00:20:08.740 Jewish official

00:20:09.440 in the United

00:20:09.840 States calling

00:20:10.440 for new

00:20:11.620 elections in

00:20:13.160 Israel.

00:20:13.560 I've never

00:20:13.920 seen this

00:20:14.300 happen before.

00:20:15.220 He's calling

00:20:15.700 for new

00:20:16.080 elections in

00:20:16.620 Israel.

00:20:17.380 He's

00:20:17.660 describing

00:20:18.100 Netanyahu

00:20:18.840 as,

00:20:19.200 quote,

00:20:21.560 urging Israel 1.00

00:20:22.920 to do

00:20:23.860 better.

00:20:24.400 Here's the

00:20:24.740 bit of that

00:20:25.120 soundbite.

00:20:26.380 The fourth

00:20:27.540 major obstacle

00:20:28.380 to peace

00:20:29.140 is Israeli

00:20:30.440 Prime Minister

00:20:31.200 Benjamin

00:20:31.680 Netanyahu.

00:20:32.720 As a

00:20:33.160 lifelong

00:20:33.540 supporter of

00:20:34.420 Israel,

00:20:35.100 it has

00:20:35.400 become clear

00:20:36.020 to me

00:20:36.460 the Netanyahu 0.72

00:20:38.620 coalition no

00:20:39.920 longer fits

00:20:40.740 the needs

00:20:41.420 of Israel

00:20:42.420 after October

00:20:43.480 7th.

00:20:44.500 The world

00:20:45.140 has changed

00:20:45.980 radically

00:20:46.900 since then,

00:20:48.220 and the

00:20:49.160 Israeli people

00:20:50.040 are being

00:20:50.980 stifled

00:20:51.640 right now

00:20:52.400 by a

00:20:53.280 governing

00:20:53.600 vision that

00:20:54.500 has stuck

00:20:55.060 in the

00:20:55.640 past.

00:20:56.100 Five months

00:20:57.000 into this

00:20:57.540 conflict,

00:20:58.460 it is clear

00:20:59.120 that Israelis

00:21:00.580 need to take

00:21:01.460 stock of the

00:21:02.240 situation

00:21:02.840 and ask,

00:21:04.620 must we

00:21:05.100 change course?

00:21:06.660 At this

00:21:07.820 critical

00:21:08.520 juncture,

00:21:09.520 I believe

00:21:10.660 a new

00:21:11.200 election

00:21:11.760 is the

00:21:12.980 only way

00:21:13.760 to allow

00:21:14.380 for a

00:21:14.740 healthy and

00:21:15.420 open

00:21:15.800 decision-making

00:21:16.620 process

00:21:17.340 about the

00:21:18.260 future of

00:21:18.760 Israel.

00:21:20.560 This is

00:21:21.500 extraordinary.

00:21:22.360 Your reaction?

00:21:23.960 Well, it's

00:21:24.380 just wrong.

00:21:25.140 It would be

00:21:25.500 as if the

00:21:25.980 Israeli

00:21:26.280 government

00:21:26.600 said we

00:21:27.060 need

00:21:27.240 elections

00:21:27.680 in New

00:21:27.960 York

00:21:28.160 to oust

00:21:28.980 Schumer.

00:21:30.620 Look,

00:21:31.140 the only

00:21:31.740 major barrier

00:21:32.920 of peace

00:21:33.380 other than

00:21:33.820 Hamas 0.96

00:21:34.260 is the

00:21:34.960 Biden

00:21:35.160 administration.

00:21:35.920 If the

00:21:36.120 Biden

00:21:36.320 administration

00:21:36.900 had said

00:21:37.300 from day

00:21:37.620 one,

00:21:38.060 we are

00:21:38.340 supporting

00:21:38.700 Israel,

00:21:39.580 we understand

00:21:40.140 that Hamas 0.99

00:21:40.840 uses human

00:21:41.520 shields,

00:21:42.020 we understand

00:21:42.500 they put

00:21:42.880 babies in

00:21:43.400 harm's

00:21:43.700 way

00:21:43.860 deliberately,

00:21:44.980 and we

00:21:45.740 support

00:21:46.180 Israel,

00:21:46.800 and we're

00:21:47.060 not going

00:21:47.480 to support

00:21:48.340 Hamas. 0.73

00:21:48.860 We're going

00:21:49.100 to tell

00:21:49.480 Hamas,

00:21:50.360 you surrender,

00:21:51.160 you give

00:21:51.560 up,

00:21:52.160 give up

00:21:52.600 the hostages.

00:21:53.460 If the

00:21:54.000 Biden

00:21:54.220 administration

00:21:54.780 had been

00:21:55.160 strong there,

00:21:56.220 the war

00:21:56.580 would be

00:21:56.880 over today.

00:21:57.780 The only

00:21:58.220 reason that

00:21:59.060 Senua and

00:21:59.720 Hamas 0.96

00:22:00.540 reject the

00:22:01.800 ceasefires

00:22:02.440 and want

00:22:03.480 to continue

00:22:03.960 on this

00:22:04.440 because they

00:22:05.100 think they're

00:22:05.620 winning support

00:22:06.520 among

00:22:07.860 Americans and

00:22:08.800 in the U.S.

00:22:09.540 administration.

00:22:10.180 Now,

00:22:10.320 Americans

00:22:10.720 overwhelmingly

00:22:11.480 support Israel,

00:22:12.840 but the

00:22:13.160 Biden

00:22:13.860 administration

00:22:13.960 is out

00:22:14.320 of touch.

00:22:15.360 And the

00:22:15.860 only

00:22:16.120 country,

00:22:16.880 the only

00:22:17.320 administration

00:22:18.200 that needs

00:22:18.800 replacement is

00:22:19.520 the Biden

00:22:19.920 administration if

00:22:20.660 you want to

00:22:20.980 see peace in

00:22:21.500 the Middle

00:22:21.740 East.

00:22:22.320 Let Israelis

00:22:22.920 decide their

00:22:23.660 election,

00:22:24.460 let Americans

00:22:25.160 decide their

00:22:25.940 election,

00:22:26.720 and let each

00:22:27.420 side keep

00:22:28.080 their nose out

00:22:28.920 of the other

00:22:29.320 side's

00:22:30.180 democracy.

00:22:30.560 It really

00:22:32.480 is nuts.

00:22:32.960 This is the

00:22:33.300 same party

00:22:33.680 that's always

00:22:34.040 lecturing us

00:22:34.540 about norms

00:22:35.140 and how we're

00:22:35.500 not supposed

00:22:35.780 to breach

00:22:36.140 them,

00:22:36.800 and yet you

00:22:37.160 have this,

00:22:38.300 the Senate

00:22:38.760 majority leader

00:22:39.500 out there

00:22:39.800 calling for a

00:22:40.360 change in

00:22:40.680 government that

00:22:41.120 was democratically

00:22:41.740 elected.

00:22:42.140 On the same

00:22:43.540 note,

00:22:45.000 today the

00:22:46.960 White House

00:22:47.620 had dispatched

00:22:48.580 some emissaries

00:22:50.180 to Chicago

00:22:51.000 to meet not

00:22:52.580 with Jewish

00:22:53.180 people in

00:22:53.960 Chicago who

00:22:54.680 have become

00:22:55.240 more and

00:22:55.880 more under

00:22:56.440 attack.

00:22:57.280 More and more

00:22:57.900 we're seeing

00:22:58.300 anti-Semitism

00:22:58.860 rise in

00:22:59.440 particular in

00:22:59.940 that city,

00:23:00.320 but to meet

00:23:01.380 with Muslim

00:23:02.580 leaders and

00:23:03.620 Arab leaders,

00:23:04.740 and guess what

00:23:05.340 just happened?

00:23:06.480 They got the

00:23:07.020 back of the

00:23:07.480 hand.

00:23:08.400 CARE,

00:23:09.200 the Council

00:23:09.600 on American

00:23:10.520 Islamic Relations,

00:23:11.800 said,

00:23:12.320 no, we don't

00:23:13.160 want to meet

00:23:13.660 with you,

00:23:14.100 White House.

00:23:14.500 They're mad at

00:23:15.240 the White House.

00:23:16.360 And this,

00:23:16.880 in the wake

00:23:17.260 of Alan,

00:23:17.840 there's a guy

00:23:19.040 on Twitter,

00:23:19.540 Richard Goldberg,

00:23:20.120 who's been

00:23:20.340 doing a good

00:23:20.940 job documenting

00:23:21.880 what's happening

00:23:22.380 in Chicago.

00:23:23.220 He tweets

00:23:23.620 out the

00:23:23.940 following.

00:23:24.780 Put this

00:23:25.340 in perspective.

00:23:26.040 Since

00:23:26.260 Friday,

00:23:27.620 pro-Hamas 0.85

00:23:28.160 anti-Semitic

00:23:29.040 rioters in

00:23:29.580 Chicago

00:23:29.920 intimidated

00:23:30.660 the House

00:23:31.600 of Blues to

00:23:32.240 cancel a

00:23:32.760 Jewish

00:23:33.080 singer's

00:23:33.700 sold-out

00:23:34.300 show,

00:23:34.700 citing security

00:23:35.720 concerns.

00:23:36.620 Loyola University

00:23:37.520 told Jewish 0.94

00:23:38.100 students they

00:23:38.560 could no

00:23:38.840 longer allow

00:23:39.340 a survivor

00:23:39.860 of the

00:23:40.220 Nova Music

00:23:40.960 Festival

00:23:41.400 massacre

00:23:41.780 to speak

00:23:42.560 on campus,

00:23:43.600 citing security

00:23:44.420 concerns.

00:23:46.160 Jews were

00:23:46.600 attacked while

00:23:47.160 trying to

00:23:47.620 enter a

00:23:48.160 theater to

00:23:48.640 watch footage

00:23:49.400 of the

00:23:49.760 Nova Music

00:23:50.300 Festival

00:23:50.700 massacre.

00:23:51.680 Jews are

00:23:51.980 not even

00:23:52.280 allowed to

00:23:52.760 mourn the

00:23:53.220 massacres

00:23:53.700 without being

00:23:54.160 attacked in

00:23:54.660 the city

00:23:54.920 of Chicago.

00:23:55.920 And what

00:23:56.200 does the

00:23:56.440 White House

00:23:56.740 do?

00:23:57.340 Send staff

00:23:58.020 to meet

00:23:58.460 with the

00:24:00.000 Muslim

00:24:00.380 representatives

00:24:01.060 who then

00:24:01.760 tell the

00:24:02.200 White House

00:24:02.620 to bugger

00:24:03.600 off that

00:24:04.520 they're not

00:24:04.900 interested

00:24:05.340 because they

00:24:05.900 don't think

00:24:06.380 the White

00:24:06.660 House has

00:24:06.960 been supportive

00:24:07.500 enough of

00:24:08.580 the Palestinians.

00:24:09.820 You can't

00:24:10.280 make it up.

00:24:11.560 No, of course,

00:24:12.260 CARE is an

00:24:12.840 organization that

00:24:13.680 has supported

00:24:14.200 terrorism,

00:24:15.020 supported Hamas,

00:24:16.100 and supported

00:24:16.660 extreme anti-Israel

00:24:19.700 rhetoric.

00:24:20.600 It reminds me of

00:24:21.220 what Canada did 0.85

00:24:22.000 today.

00:24:22.800 Canada said

00:24:23.400 they're going to

00:24:23.720 give money to

00:24:24.540 rape victims,

00:24:25.360 an equal number

00:24:26.280 of dollars,

00:24:28.540 to Israeli rape

00:24:30.020 victims, which we

00:24:30.800 know happened

00:24:31.380 during October 7th,

00:24:32.760 and an equal

00:24:33.580 amount to

00:24:34.440 Palestinian victims

00:24:35.760 of Israeli

00:24:36.400 rape, even if

00:24:37.300 none of them

00:24:37.660 occurred, because

00:24:38.960 Canada wants to

00:24:39.820 have an even-handed

00:24:41.160 approach.

00:24:42.220 You know, that's

00:24:42.600 like giving equal

00:24:43.540 amount of money

00:24:44.240 to the rape

00:24:45.300 victims as to

00:24:46.320 the rapists, and

00:24:47.680 the idea that

00:24:49.120 Canada tries to

00:24:50.320 be even-handed,

00:24:51.640 that the American

00:24:52.580 administration tries,

00:24:53.620 this is not an

00:24:54.400 even-handed

00:24:54.880 situation.

00:24:56.060 It's just

00:24:56.440 absolutely crazy

00:24:57.440 what's happening.

00:24:58.420 All right, last

00:24:58.860 but not least,

00:24:59.540 one more topic.

00:25:00.620 I'd like to squeeze

00:25:01.140 it in, because I

00:25:01.580 heard you talking

00:25:02.100 about it on the

00:25:03.460 DIRS show, which

00:25:04.080 is a great podcast.

00:25:04.960 You guys should

00:25:05.380 download it.

00:25:05.900 You enjoy, Alan.

00:25:07.820 And you are mad

00:25:08.760 right now at the

00:25:09.640 NAACP for very

00:25:12.420 good reason.

00:25:13.460 Explain.

00:25:14.940 Well, the NAACP 0.51

00:25:15.900 has said we're

00:25:16.920 not going to

00:25:17.820 encourage black

00:25:18.820 athletes to play

00:25:19.840 for Florida

00:25:20.820 public universities

00:25:21.880 because Florida

00:25:22.660 public universities

00:25:23.540 no longer support

00:25:24.940 this abomination

00:25:26.180 called DEI,

00:25:27.480 diversity, equity,

00:25:28.260 and inclusion, which

00:25:28.980 is against

00:25:29.420 diversity, against

00:25:30.660 equality, and

00:25:31.660 in favor of

00:25:32.740 exclusion.

00:25:33.520 The irony, though,

00:25:35.200 is that the only

00:25:36.040 area the NAACP

00:25:37.260 does not want

00:25:38.320 DEI in is

00:25:39.160 athletics.

00:25:40.320 Athletics are

00:25:41.020 dominated by

00:25:42.140 African-Americans

00:25:42.900 and other

00:25:43.320 as it should be

00:25:44.520 because it's a

00:25:45.460 meritocracy.

00:25:46.700 You want a winning

00:25:47.360 basketball team,

00:25:48.140 so you pick the

00:25:48.680 best people, but

00:25:49.660 you also want a

00:25:51.000 winning surgeon,

00:25:52.140 a winning pilot,

00:25:53.300 a winning engineer,

00:25:54.620 and we should not

00:25:55.700 have racial quotas

00:25:57.700 for those more

00:25:59.240 important occupations

00:26:00.740 than basketball

00:26:01.800 players, but the

00:26:02.940 hypocrisy of the

00:26:04.040 NAACP saying

00:26:04.960 it's okay if

00:26:06.500 basketball teams

00:26:07.260 are 90% black

00:26:08.360 or football teams

00:26:09.560 are 90%.

00:26:10.120 We don't need

00:26:10.600 diversity there,

00:26:11.340 no equity there,

00:26:12.160 no inclusion there,

00:26:13.100 but when it comes

00:26:14.180 to training

00:26:15.260 engineers, training

00:26:16.480 surgeons, no,

00:26:17.620 we need a quota

00:26:18.240 system.

00:26:19.040 We need to make

00:26:19.500 sure they're at

00:26:20.140 least 15% of this

00:26:21.340 and 8% of that

00:26:22.300 and make sure that

00:26:23.960 the number of Jews

00:26:24.720 and Asians

00:26:25.240 particularly kept

00:26:26.180 down.

00:26:26.840 You know what's

00:26:27.360 happening at major

00:26:28.060 universities today.

00:26:29.380 The numbers of

00:26:30.020 Jewish students

00:26:30.640 have been cut in

00:26:31.660 half by DEA,

00:26:33.260 in half,

00:26:34.160 sometimes more

00:26:35.280 than half,

00:26:36.280 and the same

00:26:36.800 thing is true in

00:26:38.060 other areas of

00:26:39.280 life because of

00:26:40.960 DEI.

00:26:41.600 So although I,

00:26:42.740 you know,

00:26:42.980 have questions

00:26:43.660 about Governor

00:26:44.640 DeSantis on many

00:26:45.640 areas, thankfully

00:26:46.840 he was right on

00:26:48.540 refusing to fund

00:26:50.360 the DEI bureaucracy

00:26:52.080 on public colleges,

00:26:53.240 and I hope

00:26:54.280 black athletes

00:26:54.960 will continue

00:26:55.680 to go to

00:26:57.260 public colleges.

00:26:58.040 By the way,

00:26:58.420 the ACP

00:26:59.100 excluded any

00:27:00.740 historically black

00:27:02.540 public colleges

00:27:03.420 in Florida,

00:27:04.820 so it's only

00:27:05.580 historically white

00:27:06.780 public colleges

00:27:07.600 or diverse

00:27:08.700 public colleges

00:27:09.820 that they don't

00:27:10.620 want athletes

00:27:11.240 to go to,

00:27:11.780 but it's okay

00:27:12.520 if the entire

00:27:13.800 team is

00:27:15.260 non-diverse

00:27:16.280 as long as

00:27:16.960 they win,

00:27:17.940 but it's okay

00:27:18.760 also if you

00:27:19.780 train surgeons

00:27:20.480 and pilots

00:27:21.100 and engineers

00:27:21.880 based on quota

00:27:23.200 systems,

00:27:23.720 not on meritocracy.

00:27:25.400 Something very

00:27:25.920 wrong with that.

00:27:27.160 It's crazy.

00:27:28.460 Thank you so much

00:27:29.260 for making the

00:27:29.680 time for us

00:27:30.160 this morning.

00:27:30.540 I know where

00:27:31.200 you are.

00:27:31.860 I don't know

00:27:32.120 if you want to

00:27:32.480 say,

00:27:32.720 but I know

00:27:33.460 that room

00:27:33.980 you're in,

00:27:34.680 sir,

00:27:34.840 because it

00:27:35.260 belongs to

00:27:36.260 a friend

00:27:36.680 of both

00:27:37.120 of ours,

00:27:37.640 so say

00:27:38.100 hello to

00:27:38.540 him.

00:27:39.340 When I

00:27:40.400 was 85,

00:27:42.820 it was a

00:27:43.740 wonderful year.

00:27:45.660 It was a

00:27:46.520 wonderful year

00:27:47.720 for 72-year-old

00:27:49.240 women named 0.98

00:27:49.920 Carolyn.

00:27:51.080 Now I'm in

00:27:51.460 the Frank Sinatra

00:27:52.180 room.

00:27:53.340 I love

00:27:55.360 Frank Sinatra.

00:27:56.660 I even

00:27:57.060 try my best

00:27:58.080 to sing him,

00:27:58.700 but everybody

00:27:59.100 leaves the room

00:27:59.720 when I do.

00:28:00.600 Here I have a

00:28:01.380 captive audience.

00:28:02.600 Thank you.

00:28:04.040 Great job.

00:28:04.940 It's great to see

00:28:05.560 you.

00:28:05.740 All the best,

00:28:06.240 Alan.

00:28:06.720 Likewise.

00:28:07.560 Take care.

00:28:08.540 It's a wonderful

00:28:09.240 room in the law

00:28:10.160 office of a

00:28:10.780 friend of ours.

00:28:11.860 Before we go,

00:28:13.520 I want to tell

00:28:14.080 you that Alan's

00:28:14.840 latest book is

00:28:15.820 titled, as he

00:28:16.700 mentioned there,

00:28:17.220 War Against

00:28:17.660 the Jews,

00:28:18.440 How to End

00:28:18.960 Hamas Barbarism. 1.00

00:28:20.240 Maybe Senator

00:28:20.980 Chuck Schumer

00:28:21.540 should read it.

00:28:22.480 Up next,

00:28:23.120 the guys from

00:28:23.980 Ruthless.

00:28:28.740 President Biden

00:28:29.720 fails to get

00:28:30.420 any bump

00:28:31.800 whatsoever in

00:28:32.780 the polls after

00:28:33.980 his big State

00:28:34.660 of the Union

00:28:35.060 speech last

00:28:35.660 week.

00:28:36.160 Surprising,

00:28:36.820 isn't it?

00:28:37.560 According to

00:28:38.060 the fixtures

00:28:38.500 over at

00:28:38.880 MSNBC and

00:28:39.740 the like,

00:28:41.140 they claimed

00:28:41.840 this was a

00:28:42.640 super strong

00:28:43.520 moment for

00:28:44.560 Mr.

00:28:44.880 Biden,

00:28:45.180 remember?

00:28:46.700 I was not

00:28:47.700 expecting what

00:28:48.760 he did.

00:28:49.940 He came out

00:28:50.580 punching, 0.83

00:28:51.740 forceful,

00:28:52.620 strong voice.

00:28:53.800 He threw

00:28:54.500 boiling oil

00:28:55.780 on MAGA,

00:28:56.900 on Trump,

00:28:57.600 on the

00:28:57.900 Republicans,

00:28:58.540 without ever

00:28:59.100 mentioning a

00:28:59.760 name.

00:29:00.760 He had

00:29:01.560 Frazier's

00:29:02.520 left hook. 0.75

00:29:04.000 This was a

00:29:04.620 tour de force

00:29:05.500 by Joe Biden.

00:29:07.600 And in the

00:29:07.920 words of

00:29:08.340 Naomi Biden,

00:29:10.060 doubt him,

00:29:10.960 then watch

00:29:11.740 him.

00:29:12.140 I thought the

00:29:12.880 speech was

00:29:13.340 very high

00:29:14.180 caffeine.

00:29:14.620 I think

00:29:15.380 Joe Biden

00:29:16.520 woke up

00:29:16.820 this morning,

00:29:17.420 had a cup

00:29:18.260 of coffee

00:29:18.680 and had

00:29:19.120 his Wheaties.

00:29:19.700 He was

00:29:19.960 definitely

00:29:20.380 there to

00:29:21.780 fight.

00:29:22.220 This was

00:29:22.620 his how

00:29:23.120 about them

00:29:23.480 apple

00:29:23.780 speech.

00:29:25.540 Oh,

00:29:25.800 boy.

00:29:26.480 Here to

00:29:26.980 break it

00:29:27.220 all down

00:29:27.700 and much,

00:29:28.540 much more,

00:29:28.960 Josh Holmes,

00:29:29.620 comfortably

00:29:29.960 smug,

00:29:30.620 Michael

00:29:30.920 Duncan,

00:29:31.420 and soon

00:29:32.340 John Ashbrook,

00:29:33.100 who's running

00:29:33.420 a little late.

00:29:34.260 Together,

00:29:34.760 they are the

00:29:35.280 hosts of

00:29:36.000 the Ruthless

00:29:36.780 program.

00:29:37.880 Now on

00:29:38.120 YouTube at

00:29:38.920 YouTube.com

00:29:39.600 slash

00:29:40.000 Ruthless

00:29:40.840 podcast.

00:29:41.660 Guys,

00:29:42.000 welcome back.

00:29:42.480 Hello,

00:29:43.400 Megan.

00:29:43.920 Thanks for

00:29:44.360 having us.

00:29:45.140 Always a

00:29:45.440 pleasure.

00:29:45.800 The pleasure

00:29:46.800 is all

00:29:47.200 mine.

00:29:47.780 Okay,

00:29:48.160 so after

00:29:48.680 all the

00:29:49.160 boiling oil,

00:29:51.100 Frazier's

00:29:51.680 left hook,

00:29:53.120 and the

00:29:54.380 latest polls

00:29:55.100 literally show

00:29:56.300 that on the

00:29:56.640 day to the

00:29:56.960 State of

00:29:57.500 Union,

00:29:57.800 if you look

00:29:58.080 at the

00:29:58.260 average and

00:29:58.620 real clear,

00:29:59.520 Trump was

00:29:59.920 up 1.8

00:30:01.060 over Biden.

00:30:02.180 As of

00:30:02.780 today,

00:30:03.220 Trump is

00:30:03.620 up 2.1.

00:30:05.920 So more

00:30:06.700 factoring in

00:30:08.400 an economist

00:30:09.060 poll,

00:30:09.820 Trump up

00:30:10.180 two.

00:30:10.460 This is

00:30:11.040 versus before

00:30:12.100 the State

00:30:12.400 of the

00:30:12.560 Union.

00:30:13.140 Daily

00:30:13.380 Coast,

00:30:13.880 okay,

00:30:14.140 that shows

00:30:14.460 Biden up

00:30:14.980 one.

00:30:15.900 Yahoo,

00:30:16.500 Trump up

00:30:16.840 two.

00:30:17.420 Forbes,

00:30:17.980 Trump up

00:30:18.300 four.

00:30:18.820 Morning

00:30:19.040 Consult,

00:30:19.560 Trump up

00:30:19.880 one.

00:30:20.180 This is

00:30:20.400 all versus

00:30:20.820 before the

00:30:21.380 State of

00:30:21.700 the Union,

00:30:22.160 so nothing

00:30:23.320 went Joe

00:30:23.920 Biden's way.

00:30:24.900 And so

00:30:25.280 were they

00:30:26.540 lying to

00:30:27.220 us?

00:30:27.440 Was it

00:30:27.720 not boiling

00:30:28.480 oil?

00:30:29.640 Or what

00:30:30.400 do you make

00:30:31.060 of it?

00:30:31.500 You think

00:30:31.920 maybe they

00:30:32.600 could have

00:30:32.920 overstated that

00:30:33.760 a touch?

00:30:34.480 I don't

00:30:34.680 know.

00:30:34.840 I felt like

00:30:35.280 listening to

00:30:35.800 that,

00:30:36.000 I was wondering

00:30:36.340 if I actually

00:30:36.940 saw the State

00:30:37.680 the Union

00:30:38.040 that they

00:30:38.380 were,

00:30:38.620 I mean,

00:30:38.820 I did

00:30:39.060 have a lot

00:30:39.400 to drink

00:30:39.720 that night,

00:30:40.240 so that's

00:30:40.980 the good

00:30:41.320 case.

00:30:42.200 But I

00:30:42.660 mean,

00:30:42.860 my goodness,

00:30:43.580 was that

00:30:43.880 not boiling

00:30:44.640 hot oil?

00:30:45.880 The only

00:30:46.560 bump that

00:30:47.200 guy got

00:30:47.840 was the

00:30:48.180 B-12 shot

00:30:49.000 on the

00:30:49.200 way in,

00:30:49.780 right?

00:30:50.140 Right.

00:30:50.260 So true.

00:30:51.420 Absolutely

00:30:51.860 nothing about

00:30:53.440 it was

00:30:54.020 inspiring or

00:30:55.880 would have

00:30:57.220 an impact

00:30:57.920 on the

00:30:58.220 electorate

00:30:58.640 beyond what

00:30:59.120 we've

00:30:59.280 already seen,

00:30:59.860 right,

00:31:00.080 fellas? 1.00

00:31:00.260 I mean,

00:31:01.080 seeing that

00:31:01.680 montage that

00:31:02.380 you just

00:31:02.740 played,

00:31:03.300 it almost

00:31:03.920 is like

00:31:04.480 North Korean

00:31:05.380 news coverage

00:31:07.040 of their

00:31:07.320 leader was

00:31:08.440 very strong.

00:31:09.920 We were

00:31:10.120 very impressed.

00:31:11.180 Dear leader

00:31:11.520 must have

00:31:11.900 eaten Wheaties

00:31:12.440 for breakfast.

00:31:13.500 But I mean,

00:31:13.920 the underlying

00:31:14.440 thing is they

00:31:15.260 recognize the

00:31:16.300 vast, vast

00:31:17.240 majority of

00:31:17.780 Americans see 0.68

00:31:18.660 that Joe

00:31:19.680 Biden is not

00:31:20.380 up to the

00:31:20.860 job, that

00:31:21.640 he's way

00:31:22.380 over the

00:31:22.800 hill.

00:31:23.160 He's not

00:31:23.500 all the way

00:31:23.920 there.

00:31:24.300 And that's

00:31:24.860 the bar

00:31:25.320 that they've

00:31:25.740 set for this

00:31:26.320 thing.

00:31:26.660 Like the fact

00:31:27.100 that he didn't

00:31:27.520 trip and split

00:31:28.120 his pants.

00:31:28.840 They're like,

00:31:29.460 oh my

00:31:29.720 gosh,

00:31:30.200 what a

00:31:30.460 speech.

00:31:31.420 It's

00:31:31.560 Gettysburg.

00:31:32.220 I mean,

00:31:32.560 basically,

00:31:32.900 as long as

00:31:33.480 they don't

00:31:33.760 roll out a

00:31:34.240 casket,

00:31:34.680 they're like,

00:31:34.960 okay,

00:31:35.220 I guess he

00:31:35.820 went above

00:31:36.220 what we

00:31:36.500 expected.

00:31:38.440 Oh my

00:31:39.040 God,

00:31:39.140 I saw a

00:31:39.540 Babylon Bee

00:31:40.060 headline the

00:31:40.540 other day.

00:31:41.300 So mean,

00:31:41.940 but so funny.

00:31:42.660 Say something

00:31:43.060 like,

00:31:44.140 Biden complains

00:31:45.080 that he keeps

00:31:48.400 getting draped

00:31:49.000 with an

00:31:49.280 American flag

00:31:50.060 every time

00:31:50.640 he tries to

00:31:51.260 take a

00:31:51.600 nap.

00:31:54.920 Oh man,

00:31:55.860 that's rough.

00:31:56.880 So bad.

00:31:58.000 So bad.

00:31:58.600 So bad.

00:31:59.720 But you

00:32:00.400 tell me,

00:32:00.920 Duncan,

00:32:01.200 because the

00:32:01.740 fact that

00:32:02.240 there's been

00:32:02.500 absolutely no

00:32:03.100 bump anywhere

00:32:04.200 shows that

00:32:05.820 the way we

00:32:06.900 saw it was

00:32:07.460 correct.

00:32:08.480 This wasn't

00:32:09.200 some home run.

00:32:10.500 He managed

00:32:10.960 to stay

00:32:11.340 upright,

00:32:12.000 which was

00:32:12.280 like,

00:32:12.560 okay,

00:32:13.100 good job.

00:32:14.420 And that

00:32:14.720 was it.

00:32:15.540 Anything else

00:32:16.100 was pretty

00:32:16.500 alienating to

00:32:17.200 people who

00:32:17.600 are on the

00:32:18.160 right or in

00:32:18.700 the center

00:32:19.080 and did

00:32:20.260 nothing for

00:32:20.880 him with

00:32:21.240 his base,

00:32:21.980 you know,

00:32:22.460 apparently,

00:32:22.940 because that's

00:32:23.300 not even

00:32:23.580 reflected.

00:32:23.980 No bump

00:32:25.080 with them

00:32:25.340 is reflected.

00:32:26.900 Yeah,

00:32:27.040 I think it

00:32:27.420 also reflects

00:32:28.420 the declining

00:32:29.120 interest Americans

00:32:30.040 have in

00:32:30.940 watching cable

00:32:32.280 news.

00:32:32.960 Yeah.

00:32:33.440 That limits

00:32:34.000 their ability

00:32:34.600 to shape

00:32:37.260 the subsequent

00:32:38.340 coverage of a

00:32:39.080 thing like the

00:32:39.540 State of the

00:32:39.880 Union.

00:32:40.260 I mean,

00:32:40.400 they can use

00:32:40.840 all those

00:32:41.140 terms that

00:32:42.040 they use

00:32:42.420 there,

00:32:42.820 but the

00:32:43.060 impact is

00:32:43.600 so very

00:32:44.400 small because

00:32:44.920 nobody's

00:32:45.380 watching anymore.

00:32:46.460 That's right.

00:32:46.760 So, I mean,

00:32:47.380 there was a

00:32:48.040 time 10,

00:32:49.200 20 years

00:32:49.740 ago where

00:32:50.880 I think you

00:32:51.940 could get

00:32:52.400 more of a

00:32:52.840 bump out

00:32:53.320 of the

00:32:53.500 State of

00:32:53.780 the Union,

00:32:54.180 but in our

00:32:55.000 media environment

00:32:55.700 today that's

00:32:56.400 so fractured,

00:32:57.240 I don't think

00:32:58.060 that really

00:32:58.540 exists anymore.

00:32:59.540 It doesn't

00:32:59.760 reflect today's

00:33:00.400 media landscape.

00:33:02.200 Interesting.

00:33:02.560 So, yeah,

00:33:03.600 it's like spiraling.

00:33:05.040 I'm sorry.

00:33:05.760 They really are

00:33:06.720 spiraling because

00:33:07.500 so many Americans

00:33:08.660 lost faith in

00:33:09.840 the media because

00:33:10.560 of the biased

00:33:11.640 one-sided coverage

00:33:13.080 and they're

00:33:13.960 essentially just

00:33:14.500 doubling down on

00:33:15.480 it, further

00:33:16.140 alienating

00:33:16.740 the few folks

00:33:17.480 who are left

00:33:18.000 with the

00:33:18.400 channel stuck

00:33:18.900 on MSNBC.

00:33:20.220 What a

00:33:20.880 trailer.

00:33:21.460 That's a real

00:33:22.060 sentence.

00:33:22.560 They're really

00:33:23.000 being harshly

00:33:24.240 misled on a

00:33:24.980 number of

00:33:25.500 subjects.

00:33:26.300 Okay,

00:33:26.600 meantime,

00:33:27.280 over on

00:33:27.640 Newsmax,

00:33:28.180 a more

00:33:28.400 conservative

00:33:28.800 leading channel,

00:33:30.060 Donald Trump

00:33:31.140 sat down with

00:33:31.900 my old pal

00:33:32.520 Greg Kelly,

00:33:33.600 formerly Fox

00:33:34.840 News and now

00:33:35.440 at Newsmax.

00:33:35.960 By the way,

00:33:36.300 Greg Kelly was

00:33:36.740 the very first

00:33:37.260 person I ever

00:33:37.780 shared an

00:33:38.200 office with

00:33:39.100 when I got

00:33:40.100 to Fox

00:33:40.840 News,

00:33:41.160 the very

00:33:41.620 first person.

00:33:42.700 Then I moved

00:33:43.320 next door in

00:33:44.520 with Major

00:33:45.120 Garrett,

00:33:45.780 which was

00:33:46.740 one of the

00:33:47.360 most formative

00:33:48.100 two years of

00:33:49.440 my young

00:33:50.040 career as a

00:33:51.060 reporter.

00:33:51.480 Major was

00:33:52.000 hilarious.

00:33:52.720 So anyway,

00:33:53.480 Greg Kelly sits

00:33:54.040 down with the

00:33:54.740 former pres and

00:33:55.580 asks him about

00:33:56.960 vice presidential

00:33:58.260 picks and in

00:33:58.840 particular whether

00:33:59.460 he's managed to

00:34:00.280 rule anybody

00:34:01.000 out, which is

00:34:02.060 an interesting

00:34:02.620 way in on this

00:34:03.860 oft-covered

00:34:04.900 subject.

00:34:05.420 Watch this.

00:34:07.260 Vice

00:34:07.660 president, are

00:34:08.620 you any closer?

00:34:09.280 Have you ruled

00:34:09.800 anybody out?

00:34:10.480 Yeah, I

00:34:12.340 probably have a

00:34:13.120 couple of

00:34:13.420 people that you

00:34:13.960 may know very

00:34:15.140 well, some

00:34:16.580 people that I

00:34:17.260 didn't think

00:34:17.660 behaved properly.

00:34:19.340 Yeah, I think

00:34:19.980 I've ruled some

00:34:20.620 people out, but I

00:34:21.600 I've ruled a lot

00:34:22.640 of people and we

00:34:23.220 have a lot of

00:34:23.620 great people in

00:34:24.240 the Republican

00:34:24.760 Party and they'll

00:34:25.540 do a terrific

00:34:26.140 job, I think.

00:34:26.900 But certainly I

00:34:28.160 have people that I

00:34:28.840 wouldn't want as a

00:34:29.800 vice president.

00:34:30.260 Is there a formal

00:34:30.780 process underway right

00:34:31.680 now?

00:34:31.940 No, it's a formal

00:34:33.060 process.

00:34:33.500 It's in my brain.

00:34:35.040 It's like I look at

00:34:36.160 the same people that

00:34:37.080 everybody else is

00:34:37.960 looking at.

00:34:38.440 We've had some

00:34:39.160 really great people.

00:34:40.720 I think we have

00:34:41.300 really great people

00:34:42.340 that want it.

00:34:42.860 People have

00:34:43.240 expressed, I mean,

00:34:44.780 not their interest.

00:34:45.640 They've expressed

00:34:46.180 like I would love

00:34:47.600 to be vice

00:34:48.140 president.

00:34:48.640 Who wouldn't?

00:34:50.640 Okay.

00:34:51.500 Now, what does

00:34:52.940 he mean by he's

00:34:54.240 ruled out some

00:34:55.000 people who have

00:34:55.720 behaved inappropriately?

00:34:59.140 Well, all I know

00:35:00.380 is I could watch

00:35:01.340 Donald Trump talk

00:35:02.460 about his VP

00:35:03.240 selection process in

00:35:04.680 perpetuity for

00:35:05.620 hours on it.

00:35:06.540 You make it like

00:35:07.220 pay-per-view and I

00:35:08.000 would subscribe

00:35:08.800 because what's so

00:35:10.320 funny about his

00:35:11.140 process, first of

00:35:12.220 all, there is no

00:35:12.680 like formal committee.

00:35:13.680 I mean, he comes out

00:35:14.640 and says it.

00:35:15.520 It's not like we're

00:35:16.160 vetting people.

00:35:16.840 It's in my brain.

00:35:17.720 And I believe that.

00:35:18.680 I think that's

00:35:19.720 probably true.

00:35:20.800 But the best part

00:35:22.460 about this from,

00:35:23.220 and we've talked

00:35:23.660 about this a little

00:35:24.280 bit on our show,

00:35:25.120 Megan, is like 0.98

00:35:26.160 what he wants to do

00:35:27.620 is keep this kind

00:35:28.440 of open and an

00:35:29.800 ongoing discussion

00:35:30.900 and basically make

00:35:31.960 a tryout of a

00:35:33.780 whole bunch.

00:35:34.280 Like who can be

00:35:34.880 better?

00:35:35.120 Like Celebrity

00:35:35.480 Apprentice.

00:35:35.940 Yeah, like who

00:35:37.400 can be, you know,

00:35:38.220 who can be the

00:35:39.260 best asset that he

00:35:40.620 could possibly have?

00:35:42.800 And then, and you

00:35:43.300 can see him paint the

00:35:44.320 other side of the

00:35:44.800 picture is like he

00:35:45.440 didn't think these

00:35:46.040 other people behaved

00:35:46.860 properly, meaning,

00:35:48.220 you know, they were

00:35:48.560 attacking him and

00:35:49.460 whatnot.

00:35:50.040 Right.

00:35:50.340 So that's my

00:35:51.740 question.

00:35:52.820 That's my question,

00:35:53.720 Holmes.

00:35:54.080 Does, they didn't

00:35:55.280 behave appropriately,

00:35:56.580 do you think, we're

00:35:57.140 trying to get in his

00:35:57.640 mind, mean somebody

00:35:59.000 who attacked him?

00:35:59.700 Because I think, I

00:36:01.620 think he would have

00:36:02.060 used a different word,

00:36:02.820 you know, like they

00:36:04.060 turned out to be

00:36:04.640 losers.

00:36:05.480 You know, I think he

00:36:06.360 would have been

00:36:06.720 stronger in his

00:36:08.400 condemnation and he

00:36:10.420 might have even named

00:36:11.300 them, right, if they

00:36:12.440 had actually slammed

00:36:13.300 him.

00:36:14.160 I have a theory on

00:36:14.980 this, Megan.

00:36:15.460 I'm really glad you

00:36:16.160 brought it up.

00:36:17.580 Obviously, Donald

00:36:18.520 Trump doesn't like

00:36:20.100 Republicans who

00:36:21.040 criticize him.

00:36:22.060 I think the thing he

00:36:23.100 hates more and he

00:36:24.460 can smell it on you the

00:36:25.520 moment you walk in

00:36:26.200 the room is he

00:36:27.260 doesn't like

00:36:27.600 desperation.

00:36:28.180 And so I think

00:36:30.140 that's what he's at

00:36:31.260 there, where he's

00:36:32.520 like, you know, people

00:36:33.100 who are a little too

00:36:33.840 thirsty, a little too

00:36:35.080 thirsty for the VP

00:36:36.500 slot.

00:36:37.140 And look, I mean, I

00:36:37.980 think this process of

00:36:39.020 selecting a vice

00:36:39.780 president is the most

00:36:41.420 like Donald Trump's

00:36:42.340 previous life.

00:36:43.280 This is a man who

00:36:43.780 understands leverage.

00:36:44.680 He has all of it

00:36:45.300 right now, right?

00:36:46.600 And so why wouldn't

00:36:47.460 you have a tryout and

00:36:48.440 delay this process as

00:36:49.300 long as possible?

00:36:50.280 And I also sort of

00:36:52.360 intuitively, he knows

00:36:53.780 like he has to tell

00:36:54.820 people he's like Santa

00:36:55.720 Claus.

00:36:56.220 He sees if you're

00:36:56.980 naughty or nice.

00:36:57.580 And he's watching.

00:36:58.740 He's always watching.

00:37:00.620 Exactly.

00:37:01.720 All right.

00:37:02.000 Now I have I have my

00:37:02.980 own theory.

00:37:04.300 My theory is it could

00:37:06.360 be a reference to a

00:37:08.600 rising star in the

00:37:09.880 Republican Party who

00:37:11.520 had such heat and

00:37:13.540 buzz around them

00:37:15.040 that they were asked

00:37:16.660 to deliver the

00:37:17.620 response to the

00:37:18.820 State of the Union.

00:37:20.020 Oh.

00:37:21.880 Mm hmm.

00:37:22.920 And then

00:37:24.500 bombed.

00:37:25.960 because you're

00:37:27.420 right, Duncan, he

00:37:28.980 can dismiss you if

00:37:31.260 you stink of

00:37:31.840 desperation.

00:37:33.060 But the worst sin is

00:37:35.120 to embarrass him, is

00:37:36.820 to do anything that

00:37:37.820 would reflect poorly

00:37:38.640 on him.

00:37:39.220 And if there's one

00:37:40.000 thing you can say

00:37:40.820 about Donald Trump

00:37:41.400 above all is the

00:37:42.700 man has an eye for

00:37:43.380 television.

00:37:44.220 I mean, he

00:37:44.560 absolutely.

00:37:45.600 That's how he really

00:37:46.440 made his millions.

00:37:47.420 I think he made more

00:37:48.420 from Celebrity

00:37:49.240 Apprentice and The

00:37:49.920 Apprentice than he

00:37:50.740 made in his real

00:37:51.300 estate empire.

00:37:52.060 I remember seeing

00:37:52.720 something like that.

00:37:53.220 And so I would

00:37:54.200 submit to you

00:37:54.800 gentlemen that when

00:37:55.440 he saw this, we'll

00:37:56.140 play a little bit of

00:37:56.800 it, maybe he

00:37:59.220 thought it was

00:37:59.680 quote, inappropriate

00:38:01.020 for a future vice

00:38:02.220 president.

00:38:02.680 Watch.

00:38:03.680 I never could have

00:38:05.380 imagined what my

00:38:06.680 story would entail

00:38:07.880 to think about what

00:38:10.300 the American dream

00:38:11.100 can do across just

00:38:13.120 one generation in

00:38:14.860 just one lifetime.

00:38:17.140 It's truly

00:38:18.200 breathtaking.

00:38:18.940 But right now, the

00:38:23.660 American dream has

00:38:24.700 turned into a

00:38:25.600 nightmare.

00:38:26.820 Our country can do

00:38:28.960 better.

00:38:31.240 And you don't have

00:38:32.300 to look any further

00:38:33.380 than the crisis at

00:38:35.100 our southern border to

00:38:36.880 see it.

00:38:38.480 President Biden

00:38:39.840 inherited the most

00:38:42.320 secure border of all

00:38:44.700 time.

00:38:45.260 he invited it

00:38:47.420 with 94

00:38:48.940 executive actions

00:38:50.720 in his first

00:38:51.720 100 days.

00:38:56.320 OK.

00:38:58.280 Zero chance

00:38:59.320 he didn't realize

00:39:00.400 what a train wreck

00:39:01.080 that was.

00:39:01.900 He praised her

00:39:02.720 at a rally over the

00:39:04.080 weekend like a

00:39:05.220 classy guy.

00:39:06.740 But there's zero

00:39:08.160 chance he didn't see

00:39:09.040 what the rest of us

00:39:09.700 saw.

00:39:09.940 So what do you think

00:39:10.760 of my theory?

00:39:11.240 Uh, I just don't

00:39:13.320 know that she's

00:39:13.900 really a short

00:39:14.640 list for that

00:39:15.660 discussion, right?

00:39:17.040 She's a dark horse. 0.99

00:39:17.920 Dark horse, Holmes.

00:39:19.600 Maybe.

00:39:19.900 Yeah, maybe.

00:39:20.920 Maybe that to be

00:39:22.120 the case.

00:39:22.960 Incidentally, in a

00:39:23.740 previous life, I

00:39:25.020 one of my jobs was

00:39:26.360 to try to set up

00:39:27.340 people to do the

00:39:28.760 State of the Union

00:39:29.400 response.

00:39:30.340 And I mean set up

00:39:31.180 quite literally,

00:39:32.180 not like set up

00:39:34.120 things.

00:39:34.680 I mean, like it's

00:39:35.980 the worst job in

00:39:37.240 the history.

00:39:37.860 Who do we hate?

00:39:38.800 Oh, my God.

00:39:39.520 It's so bad because

00:39:40.540 there's never been

00:39:41.220 a good one.

00:39:41.720 I remember.

00:39:42.260 Did you pick Rubio?

00:39:43.100 I hope you picked

00:39:43.960 Rubio and sent him

00:39:44.620 out to do that.

00:39:45.120 It was after.

00:39:45.820 Wait, did Sarah

00:39:46.300 Huckabee Sanders

00:39:46.940 did a good job?

00:39:48.020 She did a good job. 0.72

00:39:48.840 She, well, the ones

00:39:49.560 that you, that did

00:39:50.320 do the best job are

00:39:51.260 the ones you don't

00:39:51.720 remember at all, right?

00:39:53.160 Wow, yeah.

00:39:53.580 Mitch Daniels.

00:39:54.980 Yeah, you don't, if

00:39:55.840 you don't remember it

00:39:56.500 at all, you're like,

00:39:57.640 oh, they must have

00:39:58.160 done okay.

00:39:58.660 It's like the Madden

00:39:59.240 cover.

00:39:59.700 But like the Rubio

00:40:00.740 drinking water, the

00:40:02.140 one that I remember

00:40:03.020 more than anything was

00:40:04.020 Bobby Jindal walking

00:40:05.280 into the foray.

00:40:07.080 And that was a

00:40:10.540 still everything

00:40:11.360 afterwards is going

00:40:12.360 to be a complete

00:40:13.200 because the optics of

00:40:14.940 it, you go from this

00:40:15.780 filled hall of applause

00:40:17.720 and all the pomp and

00:40:18.620 circumstance of the

00:40:19.340 State of the Union

00:40:19.900 and then it's like a

00:40:20.520 cold camera, you know?

00:40:22.060 That's why they

00:40:22.500 shouldn't do it like

00:40:23.200 that.

00:40:23.500 They need somebody

00:40:24.340 nimble.

00:40:24.880 You know what they

00:40:25.180 should have done?

00:40:25.620 They should have

00:40:25.940 gotten somebody like

00:40:26.620 Byron Donald to go

00:40:28.180 out there and just not

00:40:29.200 even have a script and

00:40:29.940 be like, everything you

00:40:31.100 just heard was bullshit 0.68

00:40:31.940 without using my

00:40:33.180 colorful language.

00:40:34.260 Like that stuff about

00:40:35.140 the border, he's 0.94

00:40:36.000 responsible for that.

00:40:37.040 You know, the stuff

00:40:37.880 about the economy, those

00:40:39.120 are lies.

00:40:39.620 How do you feel his

00:40:40.420 inflation reduction

00:40:41.880 act when you go to

00:40:42.680 the grocery store?

00:40:43.620 Like somebody who's 0.88

00:40:44.720 nimble and fast on

00:40:45.860 their feet and a good

00:40:46.500 talker, even like a

00:40:47.880 Jim Jordan.

00:40:48.400 I don't care.

00:40:48.720 Somebody who can

00:40:49.320 fight live and

00:40:50.780 respond real time.

00:40:52.580 Yeah.

00:40:52.940 Or I would recommend

00:40:54.240 Mark Robinson, the

00:40:55.700 governor candidate from

00:40:56.640 North Carolina as

00:40:57.640 lieutenant governor.

00:40:58.360 He's done a terrific

00:40:58.880 job.

00:40:59.600 You hand him a mic, he

00:41:00.860 will destroy every

00:41:02.000 left wing narrative

00:41:02.880 put in front of him.

00:41:04.280 And like the way that

00:41:05.200 the media has been

00:41:05.760 trying to do these

00:41:06.440 like, oh, I love him.

00:41:08.120 He's amazing.

00:41:09.180 He's he's the guy

00:41:10.140 with the gender.

00:41:11.600 Oh, I'm in love with

00:41:12.700 him.

00:41:13.220 That's the guy with

00:41:14.060 the I know he's

00:41:15.380 getting hit for like

00:41:16.200 all sort of in a

00:41:17.360 politically incorrect

00:41:18.240 positions on a number

00:41:19.580 of issues, which is

00:41:20.920 fine.

00:41:21.380 Like you can't find a

00:41:23.020 normal leader who

00:41:24.260 doesn't have things

00:41:25.140 that are going to

00:41:25.440 upset the left on all

00:41:26.760 their woke gods.

00:41:27.980 Right.

00:41:28.400 But his rant on the

00:41:29.940 transgender thing was 1.00

00:41:31.440 circulated.

00:41:31.960 All my friends were

00:41:32.640 sending it to me.

00:41:33.600 I love this guy.

00:41:34.780 He's the best.

00:41:35.420 He's fantastic.

00:41:36.200 And like, I think

00:41:37.300 that's a really

00:41:38.460 important characteristic

00:41:39.420 is because like Holmes

00:41:40.120 said, you are not

00:41:41.240 going to have, you

00:41:42.700 know, hundreds of

00:41:43.920 your party members in

00:41:44.940 the room with you

00:41:45.560 clapping like seals.

00:41:46.840 So you're going to

00:41:47.620 have to bring that

00:41:48.240 level of showmanship.

00:41:49.400 And someone like Mark

00:41:50.300 Robinson would have

00:41:50.900 been perfect for that

00:41:51.880 situation.

00:41:52.720 Smug, we have it.

00:41:53.580 Hold on.

00:41:53.920 We have it cut.

00:41:54.980 Watch it for the

00:41:55.820 audience who doesn't

00:41:56.380 know who he is.

00:41:57.500 Take a listen.

00:41:58.480 You can go to the

00:41:59.600 doctor and get cut up. 0.97

00:42:00.800 You can go down to

00:42:02.420 the dress shop and

00:42:03.320 get made up.

00:42:04.900 You can go down there

00:42:06.240 and get drugged up.

00:42:08.160 But at the end of the

00:42:09.360 day, you were just a

00:42:10.300 drugged up, dressed up,

00:42:13.340 made up, cut up, man

00:42:15.920 or woman.

00:42:17.700 You ain't changed what

00:42:19.120 God put in you, that

00:42:20.360 DNA.

00:42:24.800 He just got my vote.

00:42:26.520 He just got my vote.

00:42:28.100 Yeah.

00:42:28.660 Let's get him.

00:42:29.560 Why?

00:42:29.820 Honestly, like, you

00:42:31.300 know, but they went,

00:42:32.340 they, I look, obviously

00:42:34.300 he would be a diverse

00:42:35.580 choice too, but I think

00:42:36.880 they went with Katie

00:42:37.540 Britt because she's 0.97

00:42:38.500 diverse.

00:42:38.820 She's a woman. 0.82

00:42:39.460 The GOP is struggling

00:42:40.300 with women and they

00:42:41.400 just, I don't know,

00:42:42.040 who's, who's making

00:42:42.780 these decisions?

00:42:43.340 Cause I don't think

00:42:43.980 they understand women

00:42:44.680 at all.

00:42:45.380 What they don't, we

00:42:45.980 don't want to see some

00:42:47.660 kind of meek woman 1.00

00:42:49.000 sitting in her kitchen

00:42:50.440 acting overly dramatic.

00:42:52.560 Those friends annoy us.

00:42:54.380 We want somebody at

00:42:55.540 maybe like give her a 0.96

00:42:56.480 glass of wine and she

00:42:57.680 can be like sisters.

00:42:58.740 Let me tell you what

00:43:00.040 the Democrats are doing

00:43:00.780 to our children.

00:43:01.340 This is fucked up.

00:43:02.560 Like you need somebody

00:43:03.860 you can talk directly

00:43:04.820 to like, who do they

00:43:06.060 think Republican women 0.67

00:43:07.120 are?

00:43:07.740 It's not like Carolyn

00:43:09.360 Ingalls sitting on the

00:43:11.100 prairie, needing

00:43:12.380 someone to work on the

00:43:14.220 fear and feel our pain.

00:43:17.220 Like Holmes, is there a

00:43:18.020 rule that they have to be

00:43:18.520 elected or could we have

00:43:19.280 had Megan do this?

00:43:20.520 No, I mean, there is

00:43:21.500 no, there is no rule.

00:43:23.220 I mean, look, the whole

00:43:24.280 process is fairly

00:43:25.200 antiquated, right?

00:43:26.460 I mean, it's designed to

00:43:29.260 try to mitigate risk, but

00:43:30.960 it actually creates more

00:43:32.420 risk because-

00:43:34.060 How many careers can we

00:43:34.680 take out?

00:43:36.060 I mean, just as you said,

00:43:37.460 it's like the media

00:43:39.660 landscape has changed

00:43:40.720 entirely.

00:43:41.700 And yet we still kind of

00:43:42.600 go back to that same

00:43:43.900 thing.

00:43:44.380 I remember once back, I

00:43:45.700 think this was 2010 or

00:43:46.720 2011, we decided to roll

00:43:49.780 the dice.

00:43:50.260 Remember Bob McDonald,

00:43:51.920 the governor of

00:43:53.460 Virginia, who had just

00:43:54.380 been elected in

00:43:55.100 Virginia and especially

00:43:56.040 off your election.

00:43:58.800 And we had him do it

00:44:00.520 in the Virginia House of

00:44:03.000 Delegates with the

00:44:05.580 crowd.

00:44:06.100 And it kind of looked a

00:44:07.280 little bit like the

00:44:08.000 State of the Union.

00:44:09.020 And I felt like that was

00:44:10.780 one of our best things

00:44:11.920 because we were way

00:44:12.620 outside of the box.

00:44:13.740 But to my knowledge,

00:44:14.780 that's literally the only

00:44:15.780 time that's ever

00:44:16.460 happened.

00:44:17.540 And I think you're

00:44:18.540 right.

00:44:18.800 There's no upside to

00:44:20.000 doing it.

00:44:20.380 I bet that's why a lot

00:44:21.280 of folks, I mean, if

00:44:22.140 they were approached, if

00:44:23.040 I would be approached,

00:44:24.840 I'd say, heck no.

00:44:26.120 What's the upside here?

00:44:27.480 Everyone's waiting for me

00:44:28.320 to bomb.

00:44:29.200 But you would do it if

00:44:31.060 you were an elected

00:44:33.780 official.

00:44:34.500 Like, I think Byron

00:44:35.180 Donalds would have been

00:44:35.720 a great choice because

00:44:36.460 I've talked to him many

00:44:37.520 times.

00:44:37.880 He's very fast on his

00:44:39.100 feet and he's very

00:44:40.380 familiar with the

00:44:41.040 issues.

00:44:41.800 And I really think part

00:44:42.660 of the problem, the

00:44:43.340 only reason you need to

00:44:44.280 set it up with that sort

00:44:45.100 of architecture, with,

00:44:46.540 you know, a new, a

00:44:47.340 second fake crowd of

00:44:48.340 your own is if you're

00:44:49.680 trying to make your

00:44:50.700 thing like the state of

00:44:52.360 the union thing, you

00:44:53.700 have to do it just

00:44:54.720 completely counter

00:44:56.120 program.

00:44:56.520 Don't even try any of

00:44:57.420 that.

00:44:57.680 Just go do something

00:44:59.320 lame like me with the

00:45:00.280 books in the background

00:45:00.920 here in Montana.

00:45:01.580 It's not my real studio.

00:45:02.840 Do something that's, it's

00:45:03.780 not about trying to

00:45:04.480 impress you.

00:45:04.960 It's just me.

00:45:05.740 It's just me, not me

00:45:07.140 because I don't want to

00:45:07.820 do this, but, and I'm

00:45:09.020 not even a Republican.

00:45:09.640 Um, just somebody like me

00:45:12.760 in front of a camera

00:45:14.200 saying like the stuff I

00:45:15.820 just said, you know,

00:45:16.680 like talk to people real

00:45:18.080 and make it real time.

00:45:19.560 So it actually is a

00:45:21.280 response.

00:45:22.300 It's a response, but

00:45:23.920 they're not nimble

00:45:25.100 enough.

00:45:25.500 They're not quick on

00:45:26.260 their feet.

00:45:26.660 They're afraid they're

00:45:28.100 they're scared to be in

00:45:29.180 front of camera.

00:45:29.680 So ideally you'd get

00:45:30.940 somebody who comes on TV

00:45:32.040 a lot or had a TV

00:45:33.960 program who, you know,

00:45:35.600 radio people like Sean

00:45:37.080 Hannity.

00:45:37.740 He's always been amazing.

00:45:38.640 You need somebody who

00:45:39.980 can speak extemporaneously

00:45:41.320 about the issues in a

00:45:42.600 compelling, quick way.

00:45:44.120 Or like Carrie Lake. 1.00

00:45:45.260 I mean, this is someone

00:45:45.980 who's got a tremendous

00:45:47.140 experience in front of

00:45:48.440 the camera.

00:45:49.400 And that's why like

00:45:49.980 anytime she, she, she'd

00:45:51.440 be amazing.

00:45:52.580 Terrific at it.

00:45:53.500 I still think Megan's 0.95

00:45:54.560 the best idea.

00:45:55.300 And you can tell by her

00:45:56.160 backdrop, she's very well

00:45:57.560 read.

00:45:58.040 Yeah.

00:45:58.580 That's what I'm getting

00:45:59.420 from the backdrop.

00:46:00.180 That's speaking to me.

00:46:01.260 This is someone who

00:46:02.160 knows the issues.

00:46:03.940 Only, I only took the

00:46:05.500 white books for behind

00:46:06.800 my, my, my scenery.

00:46:08.640 All my other books

00:46:09.560 are on the corner.

00:46:10.280 I do have non-white books

00:46:11.620 for all of you, you know,

00:46:13.080 calling me a Karen.

00:46:15.300 Karen only gets white 1.00

00:46:16.340 books.

00:46:19.740 Perfect.

00:46:20.460 All right.

00:46:21.120 I'm going to stand you by.

00:46:22.200 I'm going to do an ad.

00:46:22.880 We're going to come back

00:46:23.360 and I'm going to talk

00:46:23.820 about another person who

00:46:25.440 I think Trump might have

00:46:27.180 been referring to.

00:46:28.120 I don't, I don't, she's 0.93

00:46:29.280 not as strong a contender

00:46:30.320 as behaving inappropriately.

00:46:32.600 And you're going to tell

00:46:33.260 me whether I have it

00:46:34.300 right.

00:46:34.620 Stand by the guys who

00:46:35.340 have the ruthless

00:46:35.860 program.

00:46:36.880 Stay with us.

00:46:38.020 Up next, we are going

00:46:38.940 to talk about Don Lemon.

00:46:40.920 Oh my God.

00:46:41.480 What a meltdown.

00:46:42.820 Yesterday he interviewed

00:46:44.520 Elon Musk before his

00:46:46.120 show ever got launched

00:46:47.300 on X.

00:46:48.180 It was canceled.

00:46:49.320 He got canceled before

00:46:50.260 he started, which is a

00:46:51.200 new, that's a new kind

00:46:52.860 of cancellation.

00:46:53.980 Great job, Don.

00:46:55.180 Stand by.

00:46:55.760 We'll get into all of it.

00:46:56.760 And while I have you,

00:46:57.320 don't forget to go over

00:46:57.980 to youtube.com slash

00:46:59.260 Megan Kelly and subscribe.

00:47:00.600 If you would like to

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00:47:10.080 Welcome Ashbrook.

00:47:11.220 Glad you could make it.

00:47:12.200 Thank you for joining.

00:47:13.480 We were going over

00:47:14.980 possible vice

00:47:15.900 presidential picks because

00:47:16.940 Trump says he's

00:47:17.840 eliminated some people

00:47:18.920 because they quote

00:47:19.760 behaved inappropriately.

00:47:21.640 I am theorizing that

00:47:23.180 Katie Britt is now out

00:47:25.020 because of the state of

00:47:25.860 the union response.

00:47:27.800 Holmes does not think

00:47:28.520 she was ever in the

00:47:29.780 running at all.

00:47:30.600 Here is another person

00:47:32.360 who may, may or may

00:47:34.700 not have quote

00:47:35.440 behaved inappropriately

00:47:37.160 to the point where

00:47:38.340 they're no longer

00:47:38.980 being considered.

00:47:40.000 I give you South

00:47:41.540 Dakota governor

00:47:42.360 Kristi Noem, who

00:47:44.100 for some reason

00:47:45.760 I see what you're

00:47:50.200 doing here.

00:47:50.700 You know, you know

00:47:51.820 what you're doing here.

00:47:53.660 You know, this is

00:47:54.400 perfect for you.

00:47:55.080 She put out like an ad.

00:47:59.920 I don't know, you know,

00:48:01.060 like a promo for a dentist

00:48:04.080 who's not in South Dakota.

00:48:06.100 The guy is in Texas

00:48:08.480 and he gave her veneers

00:48:11.760 on her teeth, like not

00:48:13.020 just Invisalign or braces

00:48:15.900 or whitening, but like a

00:48:17.420 whole new set of teeth.

00:48:18.740 Veneers, I think, are caps.

00:48:20.840 And she got him.

00:48:22.720 And the guy did a good job.

00:48:24.460 We'll show you the before

00:48:25.120 and after.

00:48:25.600 But here she is 0.94

00:48:26.960 praising the guy.

00:48:28.820 I have needed to have

00:48:30.460 an adjustment to my teeth

00:48:31.600 from a biking accident.

00:48:32.800 I did a consultation here

00:48:34.160 at Smile Texas

00:48:35.260 and did it by Zoom.

00:48:36.460 I spent my whole life

00:48:37.400 farming and ranching,

00:48:38.500 riding horses, chasing cows,

00:48:40.080 and then got into

00:48:41.060 government and politics

00:48:42.440 where everything is

00:48:43.500 speaking and interviews

00:48:45.340 and giving speeches.

00:48:46.420 I want when people

00:48:47.740 look at me to hear

00:48:48.500 the words that I say

00:48:49.520 and not be distracted

00:48:50.500 by something that

00:48:51.940 I'm wearing or how I look.

00:48:54.220 When they showed me

00:48:55.380 my beautiful new teeth,

00:48:57.500 I hugged Dr. Davis

00:48:59.540 and thanked him

00:49:00.960 and started to cry

00:49:02.240 just because he really

00:49:03.940 does care about

00:49:05.560 the work that he does.

00:49:06.340 It has been a gift

00:49:07.240 to be here at Smile Texas.

00:49:09.820 Okay.

00:49:12.060 Don't know why she did that. 0.98

00:49:13.600 But now she's getting sued 0.99

00:49:16.500 by Travelers United,

00:49:19.560 a consumer advocacy nonprofit,

00:49:21.840 because they are saying

00:49:23.440 you violated the law

00:49:24.820 by doing what was clearly

00:49:26.320 a paid advertisement

00:49:27.420 and you didn't disclose

00:49:29.900 that it was an advertisement.

00:49:31.440 Remember, Kim Kardashian's

00:49:32.720 got in trouble for this

00:49:33.440 on social media.

00:49:34.440 If you're actually

00:49:34.980 going to promote something

00:49:35.720 and you're receiving

00:49:36.380 either money or a benefit in kind,

00:49:37.980 like if you got your veneers

00:49:38.940 for free or a discount,

00:49:40.440 you have to disclose that.

00:49:41.740 You're required.

00:49:42.440 So this whole thing

00:49:43.800 has caused some problems

00:49:45.400 for her, I guess,

00:49:46.720 and is a little weird

00:49:48.640 for someone reportedly

00:49:50.020 trying to get on the shortlist.

00:49:51.420 I like Kristi Noem,

00:49:52.240 but what do you think of this?

00:49:54.240 I think she's being

00:49:54.960 unfairly attacked.

00:49:56.500 She's trying to stimulate 0.99

00:49:57.620 trade between

00:49:58.380 South Dakota and Texas.

00:49:59.900 In the form of better teeth.

00:50:01.660 Yeah.

00:50:02.040 You know, there's a lot

00:50:02.900 of economic activity

00:50:04.080 that could happen

00:50:04.640 between South Dakota

00:50:05.480 and Texas,

00:50:06.000 and she's trying to raise 0.66

00:50:07.020 awareness of this,

00:50:07.900 and now she's being attacked.

00:50:10.560 You know, Dr. Smile,

00:50:11.800 I'm available too.

00:50:13.960 Dr. Davis does amazing work.

00:50:16.480 Look, and I'm not getting paid

00:50:17.540 to say that.

00:50:18.600 I don't know Dr. Davis,

00:50:19.540 but look at the before and afters.

00:50:20.660 Hold on.

00:50:21.240 We're going to put it on the board.

00:50:22.620 Look at this.

00:50:23.460 He does good work.

00:50:24.360 Well done.

00:50:25.000 Let's do a close-up.

00:50:25.980 Look, we're going to show you

00:50:26.680 the close-up.

00:50:27.480 Stand by.

00:50:28.480 Yeah, Dr. Davis, huh?

00:50:32.100 I mean, look,

00:50:32.920 I guess it worked out for him.

00:50:34.620 I gotta say,

00:50:35.760 well, it worked out for him.

00:50:36.660 I don't know this is going to

00:50:37.340 work out for her

00:50:38.160 or whether this is, like,

00:50:39.460 appropriate gubernatorial

00:50:41.380 or vice presidential material.

00:50:43.800 Go ahead, Ashbrook.

00:50:44.660 Well, this is the thing.

00:50:45.520 I'm sure Dr. Davis

00:50:46.420 is a perfectly nice guy,

00:50:48.020 obviously capable technician,

00:50:49.940 but there's not a dentist

00:50:51.480 in Sioux Falls.

00:50:53.080 Like, there's not,

00:50:53.720 how about just walking

00:50:54.520 down the street

00:50:55.220 and finding some dentist,

00:50:56.560 like, around the corner?

00:50:57.640 Not to do that kind of work.

00:50:59.140 Are you kidding me?

00:50:59.780 I know.

00:51:00.140 What does this say

00:51:00.760 to the guys in South Dakota?

00:51:02.560 Right?

00:51:02.880 Right.

00:51:03.120 Couldn't find anybody

00:51:03.660 to do that to you there?

00:51:05.120 Exactly.

00:51:05.760 I don't know.

00:51:06.480 I think it's a step up.

00:51:07.400 I don't know if you saw her,

00:51:08.160 like, PSA ads in South Dakota.

00:51:11.240 Do you guys see any of that?

00:51:12.180 Oh, yeah.

00:51:12.200 Where she was, like,

00:51:12.920 in the doctor's office

00:51:14.040 and all of that?

00:51:14.920 Yeah.

00:51:15.100 That kind of gave you

00:51:15.960 some weird vibes.

00:51:17.020 I feel like this is a step up

00:51:18.160 in that situation.

00:51:19.060 I don't get it.

00:51:19.760 I love the teeth, though.

00:51:21.000 She's a beautiful woman.

00:51:22.180 And Dr. Davis,

00:51:23.100 I mean, thumbs up to you, sir.

00:51:24.300 You do beautiful work.

00:51:25.520 And I mean,

00:51:26.200 now I think we're all thinking

00:51:27.180 about getting veneers.

00:51:27.940 That was an amazing end product.

00:51:32.500 She's not the only one

00:51:33.480 in the VP.

00:51:34.300 Hunt, though.

00:51:34.900 I move on now to RFKJ,

00:51:37.540 who has made news in,

00:51:39.900 well, the news was reportedly

00:51:41.000 that basically everybody

00:51:42.540 he asked said no.

00:51:43.620 Like Rand Paul, no.

00:51:45.660 Tulsi Gabbard, no.

00:51:47.600 I think there were others

00:51:48.400 on the list.

00:51:48.920 It was all no's. 0.93

00:51:50.140 And then now,

00:51:51.460 the last two men

00:51:52.500 reportedly on the short list

00:51:54.200 are Jesse Ventura,

00:51:57.120 former WWE star

00:51:59.120 and governor of Minnesota,

00:52:01.140 and Aaron Rodgers,

00:52:05.540 New York Jets quarterback.

00:52:08.240 I think he's quarterback.

00:52:09.220 You guys know.

00:52:09.980 Here is RFKJ addressing the matter.

00:52:12.100 You know,

00:52:14.100 he's one of the people

00:52:15.240 that we've talked to.

00:52:16.800 I really like Aaron

00:52:18.160 because, you know,

00:52:20.140 our appeal is to young people.

00:52:21.740 We're trying to make sure

00:52:23.140 that young people

00:52:23.880 are participating

00:52:25.540 in the political process,

00:52:26.740 that they have hope for America.

00:52:28.080 We want somebody,

00:52:30.120 the people who have run up

00:52:31.320 the $34 trillion debt,

00:52:32.980 which they're dumping

00:52:33.660 on that generation,

00:52:34.780 are all older people.

00:52:36.960 And we want somebody young

00:52:38.380 who's going to look out

00:52:39.260 for that generation.

00:52:41.260 Aaron Rodgers is battle-tested.

00:52:43.320 He's stood up.

00:52:44.960 He's been hammered by the press,

00:52:46.940 stood up for things we believe.

00:52:48.880 And I like that part

00:52:49.960 of his character.

00:52:50.980 He's a critical thinker,

00:52:52.300 and I think we need that

00:52:53.600 at the time,

00:52:54.220 as, you know,

00:52:54.760 the rise of AI.

00:52:56.180 We need people

00:52:57.080 who understand

00:52:58.140 that you cannot

00:52:58.920 always trust authority

00:53:00.360 just because somebody's

00:53:01.600 in charge.

00:53:02.240 All right.

00:53:04.460 Can I just say one thing

00:53:05.500 before I give it to you guys?

00:53:06.440 It was two years ago,

00:53:07.560 I think, right now,

00:53:08.680 two years ago,

00:53:09.840 this week or this month,

00:53:11.880 that I put RFKJ on this show.

00:53:14.080 After just a ton of research

00:53:15.440 by my team,

00:53:16.240 nobody would platform the guy.

00:53:17.640 He could not get,

00:53:18.600 he was banned everywhere.

00:53:20.240 You couldn't get any airtime.

00:53:22.020 He couldn't.

00:53:23.020 And we put him on,

00:53:24.560 and we did two full days

00:53:25.640 with the guy.

00:53:26.020 It was a great exchange.

00:53:27.740 And he has said

00:53:28.940 that was the beginning

00:53:29.760 of his resurrection

00:53:31.020 in being allowed back

00:53:33.340 into, you know,

00:53:34.660 circles of television

00:53:35.800 and digital media

00:53:37.140 as a voice.

00:53:39.060 And you may not like him,

00:53:40.220 you may love him,

00:53:40.820 but it's ridiculous

00:53:41.940 to have that brilliant

00:53:42.920 American band

00:53:44.160 from having a voice

00:53:45.240 in the conversation.

00:53:45.880 So I will just say

00:53:46.740 it's a personal point of pride

00:53:47.800 to see him now sitting

00:53:48.620 on Fox News

00:53:49.820 delivering his message

00:53:51.420 and, you know,

00:53:52.000 just saying what he believes.

00:53:53.240 And there's a lot of people

00:53:54.180 who feel exactly

00:53:54.880 as he does

00:53:55.320 about big government,

00:53:56.760 the military-industrial complex,

00:53:58.740 vaccines,

00:53:59.360 all of it.

00:53:59.800 So anyway, okay,

00:54:01.340 you go, RFKJ.

00:54:02.620 I'm rooting on

00:54:03.800 his continued resurrection.

00:54:06.220 So Aaron Rodgers,

00:54:08.720 you tell me,

00:54:09.540 is that real

00:54:10.240 or is that an attention-getter?

00:54:12.440 Well, it's certainly

00:54:13.180 an attention-getter, Megan.

00:54:14.840 And if he does pick

00:54:16.160 Aaron Rodgers,

00:54:17.320 and Aaron Rodgers

00:54:17.880 doesn't get hurt

00:54:18.600 this football season,

00:54:19.580 every Sunday

00:54:20.120 we'll be reminded

00:54:20.880 on national television,

00:54:22.920 the most expensive

00:54:23.840 advertising platform

00:54:25.160 on the planet,

00:54:26.200 the NFL

00:54:27.240 at one o'clock

00:54:29.620 and four o'clock

00:54:30.380 that Aaron Rodgers

00:54:31.600 is running

00:54:32.120 for vice president

00:54:33.460 with RFK Jr.

00:54:34.880 But the problem is

00:54:35.920 everybody knows

00:54:36.680 Aaron Rodgers

00:54:38.180 has a weak Achilles

00:54:39.100 and I would look

00:54:40.460 for Stephen Chung

00:54:41.900 or somebody

00:54:42.560 at the Trump campaign

00:54:43.520 to go directly for it

00:54:44.820 because they know

00:54:46.020 exactly how to knock him out

00:54:47.520 and they know

00:54:47.860 how to stop their opposition.

00:54:48.940 My thought on this, Megan,

00:54:51.880 is that he's got

00:54:52.600 the wrong quarterback.

00:54:53.840 I don't know if you,

00:54:54.460 I know you're not

00:54:54.940 a huge NFL person,

00:54:56.280 but if Kirk Cousins,

00:54:57.820 former Minnesota Viking,

00:54:59.320 one of my, you know,

00:55:01.300 guys I rooted on for years.

00:55:02.980 If you're looking

00:55:03.840 for somebody

00:55:04.440 who's very strong

00:55:05.220 on the economy,

00:55:06.340 I'm not sure

00:55:06.980 that you can think

00:55:07.760 of a single person

00:55:09.000 who is more qualified

00:55:10.200 than somebody

00:55:11.140 who's made

00:55:11.440 half a billion dollars

00:55:12.640 in the NFL

00:55:13.380 and won one playoff game.

00:55:16.100 So that was big news

00:55:18.280 this week

00:55:18.820 and I think

00:55:19.240 maybe an adjustment

00:55:20.160 on the quarterback

00:55:20.700 might be.

00:55:21.680 I'm just surprised

00:55:22.560 that more ambitious

00:55:23.660 politicians

00:55:24.500 didn't say yes

00:55:25.460 to his offer for VP.

00:55:27.180 I mean, statistically,

00:55:28.460 every vice president

00:55:29.740 for President Kennedy

00:55:30.460 has gone on

00:55:30.840 to become president.

00:55:31.760 Like,

00:55:32.120 you just follow the odds.

00:55:34.780 I actually think

00:55:36.340 Tulsi Gabbard

00:55:37.020 makes a lot of sense.

00:55:38.300 She's like,

00:55:38.820 you know,

00:55:39.440 right?

00:55:40.540 Democrat,

00:55:41.220 now independent.

00:55:42.240 That's kind of what he is.

00:55:43.240 He says he's still a Democrat,

00:55:44.200 but, you know,

00:55:44.660 he's running as an independent.

00:55:46.460 I think,

00:55:47.040 you know,

00:55:47.600 picking an NFL

00:55:48.260 player is also complicated.

00:55:49.800 We're going through

00:55:50.260 free agency right now

00:55:51.460 and I,

00:55:52.180 you know,

00:55:52.320 I'm not commissioner

00:55:52.880 of the NFL,

00:55:53.600 but I have to imagine

00:55:54.380 if you get selected

00:55:55.520 to run for vice president

00:55:56.720 of the United States,

00:55:58.080 you know,

00:55:58.460 either they're going

00:55:58.980 to have to share

00:55:59.480 the contract

00:56:00.120 with the Jets organization

00:56:01.180 so they can get back

00:56:02.080 a little bit

00:56:02.440 of their cap space,

00:56:03.280 which is probably fantastic,

00:56:04.400 but then also

00:56:05.060 maybe some conditional

00:56:05.840 picks down the road

00:56:06.660 for the NFL.

00:56:07.060 Yeah,

00:56:07.260 that'd be nice.

00:56:08.380 If they could work out

00:56:09.740 that deal,

00:56:10.260 I think he'd be

00:56:10.880 the perfect selection.

00:56:11.960 Well,

00:56:12.100 if anybody could do it,

00:56:12.980 it's Woody Johnson,

00:56:13.780 the owner of the Jets,

00:56:14.600 a great businessman.

00:56:15.860 This guy really,

00:56:16.660 really knows what he's doing.

00:56:17.060 And he's interested in politics.

00:56:18.060 There we go.

00:56:18.620 Yeah,

00:56:18.820 no,

00:56:19.060 he is.

00:56:19.420 He was,

00:56:19.740 he was Trump's ambassador.

00:56:21.840 Okay.

00:56:23.280 Yeah.

00:56:23.760 That's right.

00:56:24.620 Now we're just getting this,

00:56:25.720 this is actually breaking news.

00:56:27.080 After,

00:56:27.580 okay,

00:56:29.640 Aaron Rodgers spoke out Thursday,

00:56:32.180 that's today,

00:56:32.960 on X,

00:56:34.000 in the wake of a CNN report,

00:56:36.460 which decided to attack him

00:56:38.100 in the,

00:56:38.800 in the wake of the news

00:56:39.620 that he might be

00:56:40.120 our next vice president.

00:56:41.300 Of course.

00:56:41.760 It's a long shot,

00:56:42.780 to say the least.

00:56:44.000 Decided it was time

00:56:44.780 to start doing hit pieces

00:56:45.700 on Aaron Rodgers,

00:56:46.860 I guess.

00:56:47.860 And they,

00:56:48.680 I saw this headline

00:56:49.620 of CNN suggesting he had,

00:56:51.740 he was like an Alex Jones

00:56:52.700 on Sandy Hook.

00:56:53.540 Yeah,

00:56:53.860 I saw this.

00:56:54.540 That he was engaging

00:56:55.680 in Sandy Hook conspiracy theories,

00:56:57.800 you know,

00:56:57.960 that it never happened,

00:56:59.180 that the children didn't die.

00:57:01.120 And then I saw

00:57:02.380 considerable pushback.

00:57:03.500 I confessed to my audience,

00:57:04.720 I didn't do any investigation.

00:57:06.240 I was not planning on going there

00:57:07.480 on today's show,

00:57:08.500 but this is just breaking.

00:57:09.840 That he spoke out Thursday,

00:57:12.980 just now,

00:57:13.640 in the wake of that CNN report,

00:57:15.260 alleging that he floated

00:57:15.980 this conspiracy theory

00:57:16.940 about Sandy Hook.

00:57:18.140 CNN had reported

00:57:18.960 that it knows

00:57:20.060 of two people

00:57:22.440 with whom Rogers

00:57:23.380 has, quote,

00:57:24.260 enthusiastically shared

00:57:25.400 these stories,

00:57:26.460 including with Pamela Brown,

00:57:28.260 one of the journalists

00:57:29.020 writing this piece.

00:57:30.200 When Brown questioned him

00:57:31.480 on the evidence

00:57:32.340 in 2013

00:57:33.540 to show this very real

00:57:36.180 shooting was staged,

00:57:37.820 Rogers began sharing

00:57:40.040 various theories

00:57:40.920 that have been disproven

00:57:42.180 numerous times.

00:57:43.120 Wait,

00:57:43.380 question him on the evidence.

00:57:45.020 Oh, she's,

00:57:45.700 I mean,

00:57:45.900 the conspiracy theories

00:57:47.280 that it was staged

00:57:47.980 and she was asking him that

00:57:49.080 and he began sharing

00:57:50.020 various theories

00:57:50.700 that have been disproven

00:57:51.900 numerous times.

00:57:52.840 His post on X,

00:57:53.980 quote,

00:57:54.660 as I'm on the record

00:57:55.680 saying in the past,

00:57:57.080 what happened in Sandy Hook

00:57:58.020 was an absolute tragedy.

00:57:59.160 I am not

00:57:59.680 and have never been

00:58:00.500 of the opinion

00:58:01.140 that the events

00:58:02.020 did not take place.

00:58:03.240 Again,

00:58:03.480 I hope that we learn

00:58:04.220 from this

00:58:04.680 and other tragedies

00:58:06.020 to identify the signs

00:58:07.000 that will allow us

00:58:07.740 to prevent

00:58:08.140 unnecessary loss of life.

00:58:09.860 My thoughts and prayers

00:58:10.520 continue to remain

00:58:11.280 with the families

00:58:11.840 affected along the entire,

00:58:13.960 along with the entire

00:58:14.820 Sandy Hook community.

00:58:15.860 I mean,

00:58:16.160 this is like,

00:58:16.900 I don't know what

00:58:17.500 the truth is about him,

00:58:18.500 but that is not something

00:58:20.140 you report if it's not true.

00:58:21.400 I mean,

00:58:21.560 that is bullshit.

00:58:22.180 If CNN reported

00:58:22.860 it's not true,

00:58:23.620 that's,

00:58:24.020 that is effed up.

00:58:25.540 And if he said it,

00:58:26.700 even more effed up.

00:58:28.360 Yeah.

00:58:29.020 No,

00:58:29.420 I mean,

00:58:29.720 it's,

00:58:29.980 first of all,

00:58:30.520 it's kind of garbage

00:58:31.180 journalism to begin with.

00:58:32.180 What you're talking about

00:58:32.820 is a conversation

00:58:33.460 that allegedly took place

00:58:34.780 11 years ago.

00:58:35.920 I mean,

00:58:36.060 it was pretty newsworthy

00:58:36.840 at the time,

00:58:37.960 you know,

00:58:38.420 but apparently not

00:58:39.720 newsworthy enough

00:58:40.440 for Pamela Brown

00:58:41.220 to go with it

00:58:41.920 at the time.

00:58:43.560 And so now,

00:58:44.560 like 11 years later

00:58:46.020 in a political context,

00:58:47.340 all of a sudden,

00:58:47.920 now we got to

00:58:48.420 talk that through

00:58:49.820 in public.

00:58:50.980 I mean,

00:58:51.480 now that he's

00:58:52.020 going to RFKJ.

00:58:53.440 Right.

00:58:53.980 I mean,

00:58:54.160 I don't know

00:58:54.980 whether it's true

00:58:55.620 or I don't know

00:58:56.080 anything about Aaron Rodgers

00:58:57.140 other than his public persona

00:58:58.360 and that he plays football

00:58:59.320 and he's got

00:58:59.620 a pretty good arm.

00:59:00.280 But like,

00:59:01.640 it just seems to me

00:59:02.720 that this,

00:59:03.220 we just,

00:59:03.760 this is why people

00:59:04.740 hate media.

00:59:05.820 This is why.

00:59:06.640 This is like

00:59:07.100 the definition of why.

00:59:09.640 I'll just hold it

00:59:10.500 in my pocket

00:59:11.120 until you run

00:59:11.920 for office

00:59:12.440 on a ticket

00:59:12.980 I don't like

00:59:13.740 and then I'll get you.

00:59:15.740 Yeah.

00:59:16.020 That has to be

00:59:16.740 really hard

00:59:17.100 for Holmes

00:59:17.520 to admit

00:59:17.940 that he has

00:59:18.380 a good arm

00:59:19.160 as a Minnesota

00:59:19.860 Vikings fan.

00:59:21.160 I'm not proud of it.

00:59:22.400 Yeah.

00:59:22.660 No.

00:59:23.120 So you're rooting

00:59:23.540 for Jesse Ventura.

00:59:25.180 Oh, God.

00:59:25.880 I lived through that.

00:59:27.100 I was a Minnesotan

00:59:28.100 at that era.

00:59:28.840 That was not our finest.

00:59:29.760 How did that go?

00:59:30.600 Not great.

00:59:31.640 Not great.

00:59:33.300 Okay.

00:59:34.320 Okay.

00:59:34.800 Well, speaking of,

00:59:36.280 yeah, go ahead.

00:59:37.400 Oh, I was going to say

00:59:37.920 the one thing

00:59:38.220 in that statement

00:59:39.380 is it did sound

00:59:40.580 like a guy

00:59:41.000 who might be running

00:59:41.620 for vice president.

00:59:42.500 It did.

00:59:43.080 It was very PR heavy.

00:59:45.040 That's true.

00:59:46.020 All right.

00:59:46.320 Now,

00:59:46.720 I do want to get

00:59:47.980 to Don Lemon

00:59:48.520 because that's

00:59:49.020 my favorite story

00:59:49.600 of the day.

00:59:49.860 But can I just ask you

00:59:50.480 quickly to weigh in

00:59:51.080 on Ken Buck?

00:59:52.440 Sure.

00:59:52.880 Ken Buck

00:59:53.040 announcing like

00:59:54.600 his immediate retirement

00:59:55.600 from Congress.

00:59:57.000 And, you know,

00:59:57.760 there's a lot of people

00:59:58.620 saying,

00:59:58.960 holy shit.

00:59:59.760 There's not enough

01:00:00.420 of a margin there

01:00:01.180 for the Republicans

01:00:01.760 to spare it,

01:00:02.980 although they still

01:00:04.200 need to win

01:00:04.640 everything by two.

01:00:05.740 You know,

01:00:05.840 I don't,

01:00:06.100 it's like they're still

01:00:07.480 on a very,

01:00:08.020 very slim majority

01:00:08.820 in the House,

01:00:09.480 either way,

01:00:09.880 with or without him.

01:00:10.800 So how does this

01:00:12.180 affect anything

01:00:13.280 with the Republicans

01:00:14.160 and what does it tell us

01:00:15.480 about the state

01:00:16.920 of the Republican Party?

01:00:18.100 Well,

01:00:19.100 it goes to one

01:00:20.380 of our chief critiques

01:00:21.560 of the current state

01:00:23.320 of the Republican Party

01:00:24.600 and a lack

01:00:25.560 of team play.

01:00:27.740 And in the House

01:00:28.180 of Representatives,

01:00:28.700 the only way

01:00:29.260 that you get anything

01:00:30.020 done with a conservative

01:00:31.660 majority,

01:00:33.040 especially when you have

01:00:34.580 fewer than five vote

01:00:36.000 majorities,

01:00:36.640 is entirely by

01:00:38.000 working together

01:00:39.060 and trying to do

01:00:40.400 this as a team.

01:00:42.880 And what Ken Buck did,

01:00:44.180 obviously,

01:00:44.940 I think is a reflection

01:00:46.040 of much of what he's

01:00:49.020 done throughout his career.

01:00:50.000 He didn't care

01:00:50.860 about the team,

01:00:51.560 didn't care about

01:00:52.040 the team at all.

01:00:53.300 And the problem is,

01:00:54.120 no, clearly.

01:00:56.180 I mean, he's walking out.

01:00:56.980 I don't know anything

01:00:57.260 about Ken Buck.

01:00:57.980 Can you tell me,

01:00:58.620 tell me more about Ken Buck.

01:00:59.520 I know he did not vote

01:01:00.320 for the Mayorkas impeachment

01:01:01.360 and that I think

01:01:02.620 he's been a Trump critic,

01:01:04.020 but I don't know

01:01:04.860 much more about him.

01:01:06.000 Well, I mean,

01:01:06.340 he's one of the eight

01:01:06.960 that voted against

01:01:07.660 Kevin McCarthy, right?

01:01:09.500 I mean,

01:01:09.920 he's had this,

01:01:11.680 this pattern

01:01:12.320 throughout his career

01:01:13.200 of being this sort

01:01:14.100 of iconoclastic,

01:01:15.600 go it alone type guy

01:01:17.080 that doesn't work

01:01:17.720 within the confines

01:01:18.500 of the team.

01:01:19.020 The problem for your listeners,

01:01:20.760 the problem when

01:01:22.040 you get lawmakers

01:01:22.880 who do that

01:01:23.460 in the House of Representatives

01:01:24.520 is that for every Republican

01:01:26.840 you lose,

01:01:27.500 you need to go pick up

01:01:28.280 a Democrat.

01:01:29.280 And when you do that,

01:01:30.220 everything drifts

01:01:31.340 further and further

01:01:32.540 to the left.

01:01:33.500 Like if you're passing

01:01:34.400 a spending bill

01:01:35.220 and you need 30

01:01:36.280 Democratic votes

01:01:37.460 because you have 30

01:01:38.160 Republicans that won't

01:01:39.060 vote for it,

01:01:40.080 guess what happens?

01:01:40.800 That's how you get

01:01:42.120 a $36 trillion debt

01:01:43.680 because you have to,

01:01:44.960 there's a price of admission

01:01:46.060 for all these people

01:01:47.200 coming together

01:01:47.820 if you don't play team ball.

01:01:49.500 And I think Ken Buck

01:01:50.380 is just the latest

01:01:51.080 perfect example

01:01:52.100 of somebody

01:01:52.620 who's really let

01:01:54.100 the center right

01:01:55.240 and the conservative movement

01:01:56.600 down in this country

01:01:58.140 by failing to see

01:01:59.180 the larger objectives

01:02:00.380 that he said

01:02:01.720 he was trying to run

01:02:02.620 for Congress for

01:02:03.320 in the first place.

01:02:03.980 Why is this bad

01:02:05.500 for Lauren Boebert?

01:02:07.660 Ooh.

01:02:08.920 Duncan,

01:02:09.420 do you understand

01:02:09.900 the intricacies of that?

01:02:11.080 I actually asked Duncan

01:02:12.140 how it worked yesterday.

01:02:13.480 I don't think it's

01:02:14.300 bad for Lauren Boebert. 0.99

01:02:16.320 She's going to move

01:02:17.060 out of her current district

01:02:18.260 to run in that seat,

01:02:20.920 but she's declining

01:02:22.080 to run in the special election

01:02:23.380 to replace Ken Buck

01:02:24.420 because she says

01:02:25.000 she wants to be focused

01:02:25.740 on that general election

01:02:27.660 rather than kind of

01:02:28.700 abandoning her current

01:02:29.580 constituents,

01:02:30.420 which I think is probably

01:02:31.420 the right decision.

01:02:34.920 But, you know,

01:02:35.900 I...

01:02:36.640 Well, it's really tricky too

01:02:37.680 because, and we know

01:02:38.560 Colorado,

01:02:39.860 not unsusceptible

01:02:41.880 to trickery

01:02:42.820 amongst the judicial

01:02:44.920 branch there.

01:02:46.120 Yeah.

01:02:46.260 But what could potentially

01:02:47.460 happen there

01:02:48.220 is if she, 0.53

01:02:49.060 they redistribute

01:02:49.940 her district

01:02:50.400 to make it

01:02:50.940 much more Democrat.

01:02:52.580 And so she's moving

01:02:53.360 into the Ken Buck district

01:02:54.500 to run for that district.

01:02:55.440 But you could see

01:02:56.220 if she were to run

01:02:57.240 in a special election,

01:02:58.840 she would have to give up

01:03:00.560 her district

01:03:01.240 which is now

01:03:01.800 very Democrat,

01:03:02.760 you could lose

01:03:03.220 another Republican seat

01:03:04.420 on that, right?

01:03:05.900 But the challenge...

01:03:06.940 I don't understand

01:03:07.100 anything other than

01:03:07.940 the last thing you said,

01:03:09.040 which makes sense to me.

01:03:10.140 So they could lose

01:03:11.300 yet another seat.

01:03:13.280 Yeah.

01:03:13.620 But the real question is,

01:03:14.460 are they in danger?

01:03:15.140 I mean, like,

01:03:15.380 if they have two more

01:03:16.060 retirements between now

01:03:17.200 and the next election,

01:03:18.240 then we have a speaker,

01:03:19.340 Jeffries?

01:03:20.340 Yes.

01:03:21.040 Yes.

01:03:21.600 Without question.

01:03:22.240 And it may not even

01:03:22.700 take that.

01:03:23.600 I mean, part of the problem

01:03:24.720 is you get some folks

01:03:26.660 there who are,

01:03:27.680 every time they find

01:03:28.500 something that they disagree

01:03:29.580 with, they're calling

01:03:30.440 for a vacate of the chair,

01:03:32.540 meaning they want

01:03:33.440 to kick Mike Johnson out.

01:03:34.780 They haven't done that yet,

01:03:35.840 thank God.

01:03:36.280 But if they did

01:03:37.260 and you have two absences

01:03:39.060 and United Democratic Front,

01:03:41.540 that vote is going to be

01:03:42.980 a Speaker Jeffries, right?

01:03:44.760 So, I mean,

01:03:45.320 you don't even need

01:03:46.120 the retirements.

01:03:48.260 They're very,

01:03:49.720 very thinly

01:03:50.440 holding on to a majority.

01:03:52.180 I think what they need

01:03:53.700 in the United States Congress

01:03:55.160 is one of those,

01:03:55.720 you know,

01:03:55.860 those safety at work signs

01:03:57.300 where it's like,

01:03:58.280 you know,

01:03:58.560 it's been 45 days

01:03:59.480 since our last accident.

01:04:00.780 They need one of those

01:04:01.820 signs on the wall

01:04:02.460 and it's been zero days

01:04:04.140 since we lost a Republican.

01:04:09.940 That would be,

01:04:10.940 yeah.

01:04:11.640 Well,

01:04:12.160 this doesn't sound

01:04:12.840 like good news.

01:04:13.520 The GOP is so fractured.

01:04:14.920 It's like the Dems

01:04:15.660 have the crazy squad,

01:04:16.940 but other than that,

01:04:17.680 they vote together

01:04:18.420 and the Republican Party

01:04:20.020 has just been in disarray

01:04:21.660 for a number of years

01:04:22.920 and we'll see.

01:04:23.840 We'll see whether

01:04:24.380 Donald Trump

01:04:24.960 has enough coattails

01:04:26.860 to bring them back together

01:04:28.400 and bring a big majority

01:04:29.660 into one or both

01:04:30.880 houses of Congress,

01:04:31.640 but it's hard

01:04:33.260 to feel hopeful right now

01:04:34.420 given just how bad it is

01:04:36.240 in the lower house

01:04:37.760 in particular,

01:04:38.400 but okay,

01:04:38.960 let's move on

01:04:39.540 to something happier.

01:04:40.480 Don Lemon.

01:04:41.260 Don Lemon got fired again

01:04:42.680 already.

01:04:43.640 He fired before

01:04:44.340 he really got hired.

01:04:46.080 It's very hard

01:04:47.640 for Don Lemon

01:04:48.100 to keep a job

01:04:48.720 and we know why.

01:04:50.960 He got,

01:04:51.580 amazingly,

01:04:52.180 Elon Musk offered him

01:04:53.200 a deal

01:04:54.180 to post a new show

01:04:56.140 on X

01:04:56.820 and Elon Musk

01:04:59.240 is a risk taker,

01:05:00.420 so I guess

01:05:01.680 he thought this would be

01:05:02.600 a fun risk,

01:05:03.340 just as risky,

01:05:04.000 I guess,

01:05:04.320 as like putting spaceships

01:05:05.740 into outer space

01:05:06.780 because it really was

01:05:07.840 just that risky,

01:05:09.140 Elon.

01:05:09.840 He probably just thought,

01:05:11.200 oh,

01:05:11.360 he's like a left-wing commentator.

01:05:12.800 I doubt Elon

01:05:13.620 spent his time

01:05:14.360 watching CNN primetime

01:05:15.960 because literally

01:05:16.600 only two people did.

01:05:17.440 And so he decided

01:05:20.560 to give him a deal

01:05:21.340 at the same time,

01:05:22.360 speaking of Tulsi Gabbard,

01:05:23.340 he gave her a show

01:05:24.220 on X

01:05:24.660 and I think a couple

01:05:25.240 of others.

01:05:25.960 He's trying to make X

01:05:27.000 a platform where,

01:05:27.980 you know,

01:05:28.220 you have voices like

01:05:29.040 Tucker from the right,

01:05:30.020 you have voices like

01:05:30.820 Lemon on the left,

01:05:31.680 and it's a forum

01:05:32.640 for everybody.

01:05:34.060 Well,

01:05:34.820 okay,

01:05:35.900 I will give it to

01:05:37.060 Bill O'Reilly

01:05:37.540 who I saw a clip

01:05:38.540 of him this morning

01:05:39.120 saying,

01:05:39.820 don't interview your boss.

01:05:41.440 That is the lesson

01:05:42.580 that came out

01:05:43.540 of this hot mess

01:05:45.260 of exchange

01:05:46.340 between Don and Elon

01:05:47.460 because Elon gave Don

01:05:48.560 an interview

01:05:49.300 to launch on his first show

01:05:50.840 and I will say

01:05:52.840 Don Lemon

01:05:53.460 behaved like an asshole 0.68

01:05:55.300 who was not grateful

01:05:57.780 to Elon Musk

01:05:58.820 for resurrecting

01:06:00.120 his career.

01:06:01.820 And O'Reilly's right.

01:06:03.820 It's very hard

01:06:05.000 for Don Lemon

01:06:05.560 in this position

01:06:06.100 to both be a good journalist

01:06:07.600 and be a good employee.

01:06:09.560 You know,

01:06:10.580 the man's paying

01:06:11.880 your salary.

01:06:12.900 So you do owe him

01:06:14.320 a level of respect

01:06:15.780 and discretion.

01:06:18.620 And at the same time,

01:06:20.480 you want to prove to us

01:06:21.400 in your first interview back

01:06:22.320 how hard-hitting you are

01:06:23.700 and those two goals

01:06:25.400 are not aligned.

01:06:26.380 So I don't blame Elon

01:06:27.520 for being mad

01:06:28.740 at the way he was treated,

01:06:30.300 which now Don is admitting

01:06:32.020 it didn't end well

01:06:33.080 and Elon was pissed off

01:06:34.940 when it ended.

01:06:35.980 And reportedly,

01:06:37.220 Kara Swisher reporting

01:06:38.240 that when it was over,

01:06:39.400 he, Elon,

01:06:40.920 texted a company,

01:06:42.720 you know,

01:06:42.860 a colleague saying,

01:06:44.400 contract canceled.

01:06:46.380 That's how Don's

01:06:47.260 new show got canceled.

01:06:48.880 It's not,

01:06:49.380 the show's not canceled.

01:06:50.300 It can still air on X.

01:06:51.520 It can air wherever

01:06:52.240 he wants it to air.

01:06:53.040 I can air my show on X now.

01:06:54.300 You guys can air your show on X.

01:06:55.580 But he's not going to get paid

01:06:56.560 by Elon for it.

01:06:57.860 And reportedly,

01:06:58.320 there was no written contract.

01:07:00.760 So even though,

01:07:01.860 of course,

01:07:03.200 Don Lemon threw a spokesperson

01:07:04.320 who's the same woman

01:07:06.680 Jeff Zucker was having

01:07:08.320 an affair with

01:07:09.180 Allison Gollis,

01:07:10.660 is threatening to serve.

01:07:13.000 All our old favorites

01:07:14.220 are involved in this one,

01:07:15.480 fellas.

01:07:16.480 Okay?

01:07:17.340 Knock three times.

01:07:19.260 That's the woman. 1.00

01:07:20.740 Knock three times

01:07:21.940 on the ceiling.

01:07:23.140 If you want.

01:07:23.740 That was the greatest,

01:07:24.480 ruthless program ever.

01:07:25.320 That was the woman 0.98

01:07:27.460 above Jeff Zucker

01:07:29.060 when he lived with his family

01:07:30.180 and they got fired

01:07:31.500 because they were having

01:07:31.960 an affair and all this stuff.

01:07:33.320 And now that woman's 1.00

01:07:34.080 representing Don Lemon

01:07:34.880 as a spokesman

01:07:35.560 threatening to sue Elon.

01:07:37.540 Our entire worlds

01:07:38.520 have come together.

01:07:40.020 And I will show you

01:07:41.140 a little bit

01:07:41.820 of what got Don Lemon

01:07:44.160 fired this time.

01:07:46.540 This time.

01:07:49.100 I'll just give you

01:07:50.000 one example.

01:07:51.260 Here he is

01:07:52.060 accusing Musk

01:07:53.040 of allowing hate speech

01:07:54.360 on X and Sop4.

01:07:57.900 Hate speech

01:07:58.740 on the platform

01:08:00.780 is up.

01:08:02.400 Do you believe

01:08:02.940 that X and you

01:08:04.120 have some responsibility

01:08:05.000 to moderate hate speech

01:08:06.740 on the platform?

01:08:07.500 That you wouldn't have

01:08:08.460 to answer these questions

01:08:09.340 from reporters

01:08:10.220 about the great

01:08:10.820 replacement theory

01:08:11.580 as it relates to Democrats?

01:08:12.340 I don't have to answer

01:08:12.800 these questions.

01:08:13.120 The great replacement theory

01:08:14.100 as it relates to Jewish people.

01:08:15.920 Do you think that?

01:08:16.840 I don't have to answer

01:08:17.540 questions from reporters.

01:08:18.980 Don, the only reason

01:08:19.500 I'm doing this interview

01:08:20.180 is because you're on

01:08:21.160 the X platform

01:08:21.800 and you asked for it.

01:08:23.740 Otherwise,

01:08:24.140 I would not do

01:08:25.000 this interview.

01:08:26.360 So you don't think

01:08:26.920 do you think

01:08:27.640 that you wouldn't

01:08:28.160 get in trouble

01:08:28.740 or you wouldn't

01:08:29.220 be criticized

01:08:29.680 for these things?

01:08:30.680 I'm criticized possibly.

01:08:31.840 I could care less.

01:08:37.520 Oh, man.

01:08:38.380 That guy is so great.

01:08:40.040 Wow.

01:08:41.280 Don Lemon's problem

01:08:42.600 is not that

01:08:43.320 he's too much

01:08:43.960 of a journalist.

01:08:45.160 It's that he's

01:08:45.660 too unfailingly partisan.

01:08:47.720 He never did this

01:08:48.540 with Jeff Zucker,

01:08:49.600 but he has one chance

01:08:50.800 to talk to Elon Musk

01:08:51.980 and he jumps

01:08:52.480 ugly on the guy.

01:08:53.860 I cannot believe

01:08:55.140 he did that.

01:08:55.940 It's the dumbest

01:08:56.700 possible thing

01:08:57.600 that anybody could do.

01:08:59.540 I mean,

01:08:59.980 there's a lot to like

01:09:01.340 about Elon Musk

01:09:02.140 other than the fact

01:09:02.740 that he won't sell

01:09:03.380 an internal combustion engine.

01:09:05.000 There is a lot

01:09:05.580 to like about him.

01:09:06.780 I think that the guy

01:09:07.860 built a great platform

01:09:09.080 and why not ask him

01:09:10.780 about that?

01:09:11.720 Like,

01:09:11.900 why go into

01:09:12.680 your partisan talking point?

01:09:13.980 The man that just

01:09:14.420 resurrected your career.

01:09:16.180 The man who just

01:09:17.180 resurrected your career.

01:09:18.700 Show some gratitude.

01:09:19.940 Ask him about

01:09:20.480 how amazing X is doing

01:09:21.680 and how it's thriving,

01:09:22.900 notwithstanding

01:09:23.340 all the doomsday predictions

01:09:24.820 and whatever happened

01:09:25.900 to loser threads

01:09:26.940 over on Facebook.

01:09:28.760 Elon's having a moment,

01:09:30.060 but not in Don's life

01:09:31.200 in his world,

01:09:32.200 even though he just

01:09:33.540 got this great opportunity.

01:09:35.440 Right.

01:09:35.680 It's not journalism.

01:09:36.800 It's narcissism.

01:09:38.180 Like the guy

01:09:38.660 can't help himself.

01:09:39.720 Yeah, it's sort of crazy.

01:09:41.400 It's crazy.

01:09:42.300 Wait, can I,

01:09:42.660 let me just give you,

01:09:43.200 let me just give you one,

01:09:44.060 one other that we have

01:09:44.680 a bunch to go through

01:09:45.340 because of course

01:09:45.760 we love the story.

01:09:46.660 Here's Don on CNN.

01:09:48.200 He goes back to CNN,

01:09:49.620 the other place

01:09:50.320 that just fired him

01:09:51.240 and gives an interview

01:09:54.380 about this guy firing him

01:09:55.940 with Aaron Burnett

01:09:57.440 and explains why he felt

01:09:59.820 the need to do that

01:10:01.440 to Elon in that question.

01:10:02.560 Watch this.

01:10:04.000 He doesn't understand

01:10:05.280 that that sort of rhetoric

01:10:07.920 that he talks about,

01:10:09.020 the great replacement theory

01:10:10.120 and, um,

01:10:11.300 and a migrant invasion.

01:10:13.200 That's what radicalized shooters 0.99

01:10:15.960 use in their manifestos.

01:10:17.540 Those exact words.

01:10:19.160 The people who go

01:10:20.340 and shoot up people, 0.86

01:10:21.520 whether they be

01:10:22.220 Latino people

01:10:23.180 who live in Texas

01:10:24.260 or black people

01:10:25.100 who are in a supermarket

01:10:25.900 in Buffalo

01:10:27.020 or Jewish people

01:10:28.660 who are,

01:10:29.220 who are worshiping,

01:10:30.960 those people use

01:10:32.040 the same rhetoric

01:10:32.760 as someone who has

01:10:34.420 one of the largest

01:10:35.700 social media

01:10:36.420 and information platforms.

01:10:37.420 And it doesn't seem

01:10:38.760 that he feels

01:10:39.360 that he has

01:10:39.900 any responsibility

01:10:40.720 with that

01:10:41.320 because he seemed

01:10:42.940 really averse to facts.

01:10:46.160 Oh, my God.

01:10:47.660 He seemed averse to facts.

01:10:49.840 This, this platform

01:10:50.880 paying me all this money

01:10:52.040 sucks.

01:10:54.500 Tune into my show

01:10:55.600 on this platform.

01:10:56.600 It makes no sense.

01:10:57.800 You know,

01:10:58.160 I, I don't get it.

01:10:59.360 I do wonder

01:11:00.040 if maybe this is

01:11:00.840 Don Lemon's long game.

01:11:02.320 You know,

01:11:02.640 like he was a double agent

01:11:03.640 this whole time.

01:11:04.340 He's going in there

01:11:05.040 to get a show on X

01:11:05.980 just so he can,

01:11:07.200 you know,

01:11:07.840 blow it up, 0.99

01:11:08.400 burn the place down.

01:11:09.300 He goes back.

01:11:09.720 I really think

01:11:10.180 you're overestimating

01:11:11.020 his intelligence.

01:11:13.060 I feel like

01:11:13.880 that might be right.

01:11:14.880 I feel like that.

01:11:16.460 So, okay.

01:11:17.100 It wasn't enough to say

01:11:18.220 you're basically a racist

01:11:19.660 and you allow racism,

01:11:21.260 you foment racism,

01:11:22.640 which is how he began it.

01:11:24.520 But he also got around to

01:11:26.100 and you're a druggie 0.75

01:11:27.600 and probably irresponsible

01:11:29.180 and maybe not somebody

01:11:30.020 stockholders

01:11:30.540 want to invest with.

01:11:32.100 Here's how he set that up

01:11:33.520 and then I'll give you

01:11:34.040 the talk,

01:11:34.600 the soundbite of him

01:11:35.660 explaining that one

01:11:37.280 on his other

01:11:38.400 fired network, CNN.

01:11:39.500 Let's run SOT6.

01:11:42.480 You talk about your ketamine

01:11:43.820 use and depression.

01:11:44.920 You also have said

01:11:46.880 and the reason I should say

01:11:48.200 like the reason I mentioned

01:11:50.240 the ketamine prescription

01:11:52.580 on the X platform

01:11:54.040 was because I thought

01:11:55.020 maybe this is something

01:11:56.300 that can help other people.

01:11:57.680 That's why I mentioned it.

01:11:59.160 Obviously,

01:11:59.480 I'm not a doctor,

01:12:00.020 but I would say

01:12:00.820 if someone has depression issues,

01:12:02.960 they should consider

01:12:03.740 talking to their doctor

01:12:04.980 about ketamine

01:12:05.560 instead of SSRIs.

01:12:08.280 Okay.

01:12:08.880 Now here's Don

01:12:10.380 explaining why he thought

01:12:11.460 it was important

01:12:11.920 to bring that up

01:12:12.700 in his limited time

01:12:13.800 that Elon Musk,

01:12:14.520 who doesn't give a lot

01:12:15.200 of interviews,

01:12:15.940 granted him.

01:12:16.600 He decided to go to

01:12:17.540 ketamine and depression

01:12:18.460 with Elon

01:12:18.900 and this is why.

01:12:20.340 Watch SOT7.

01:12:22.780 It's no secret.

01:12:24.200 His drug use

01:12:25.040 or alleged drug use,

01:12:26.300 I should say,

01:12:27.120 has been extensively

01:12:28.140 written about it

01:12:28.980 by very credible

01:12:30.380 news organizations

01:12:31.420 like the Wall Street Journal

01:12:32.620 and I asked him that

01:12:33.380 and he said,

01:12:33.760 listen,

01:12:34.160 I have not read

01:12:35.120 the Wall Street Journal.

01:12:35.920 I don't read

01:12:36.400 the Wall Street Journal.

01:12:37.340 If I don't have time

01:12:38.300 to read about everything

01:12:39.980 that people write about me,

01:12:41.040 I would never get anything done.

01:12:42.440 Elon Musk is responsible

01:12:43.660 for satellites,

01:12:45.360 for Starlink.

01:12:46.100 He's responsible

01:12:46.760 for Tesla.

01:12:48.500 He's responsible

01:12:49.200 for a number

01:12:49.880 of different companies

01:12:50.780 on the stock market

01:12:53.740 and I think

01:12:57.520 that it is important

01:12:58.380 for people

01:12:58.940 to understand

01:12:59.980 his mindset,

01:13:01.920 whether he's using

01:13:02.980 drugs legally

01:13:03.680 or not,

01:13:04.480 but ones that he's

01:13:05.280 supposed to be,

01:13:05.860 that he is using

01:13:06.880 prescription-wise,

01:13:07.760 that he's following

01:13:08.560 a doctor's orders

01:13:11.040 under that.

01:13:13.080 Is that for real?

01:13:14.360 Is that for real?

01:13:16.200 He's so concerned

01:13:17.200 about the prescription.

01:13:19.360 Right.

01:13:19.940 You foment racism.

01:13:21.420 You're a druggie

01:13:22.540 who's running

01:13:23.320 all these big companies

01:13:24.240 and I want to see

01:13:25.720 your prescription.

01:13:26.620 And he doesn't understand

01:13:27.500 why Elon was like,

01:13:28.320 it's over.

01:13:30.540 I mean,

01:13:31.160 it's just amazing.

01:13:32.240 Okay,

01:13:32.560 and now on to

01:13:33.160 your womanizing. 1.00

01:13:34.500 You know what I mean?

01:13:35.760 What?

01:13:36.620 That is just

01:13:37.340 a broadside attack.

01:13:39.380 Right.

01:13:39.940 And also,

01:13:41.000 he tries saying

01:13:41.740 that he's like

01:13:42.340 rooted in facts

01:13:43.680 and he says,

01:13:44.180 oh,

01:13:44.240 he's got several stocks,

01:13:46.000 you know,

01:13:46.220 public stocks

01:13:46.920 that he's in control of

01:13:48.180 and I think

01:13:48.840 his shareholder

01:13:49.400 should be concerned.

01:13:50.480 Maybe you should talk

01:13:51.300 to one of the shareholders.

01:13:52.360 Over 10 years,

01:13:53.180 every dollar you put in Tesla

01:13:54.500 is worth $2,000.

01:13:55.720 I mean,

01:13:56.520 I think they're over the moon

01:13:58.160 about that performance.

01:13:59.580 I think the shareholders

01:14:00.600 are more concerned

01:14:02.200 about the fact

01:14:03.100 that he tried to hire

01:14:03.700 Don Lemon

01:14:04.200 than anything they had

01:14:05.620 in this interview.

01:14:06.640 That's a real last judgment.

01:14:09.040 Of course,

01:14:09.700 then he goes out

01:14:10.500 and now Don Lemon's

01:14:11.460 biggest takeaway

01:14:12.440 from all of this

01:14:13.240 is that Elon Musk

01:14:14.440 is not for free speech,

01:14:16.660 that he's a fake

01:14:18.960 free speech warrior

01:14:20.320 because he's no longer

01:14:22.100 wanting to give Don

01:14:23.400 millions of dollars.

01:14:25.800 Don Lemon

01:14:26.300 can still post on X.

01:14:28.560 He can still post

01:14:29.820 as a podcast

01:14:30.400 wherever he wants to post,

01:14:31.520 but because Elon

01:14:32.520 no longer wants

01:14:33.420 to give him millions,

01:14:35.920 Don is mad.

01:14:37.020 Here's a little bit

01:14:37.640 of that on CNN

01:14:39.020 on Sot9.

01:14:41.220 During the course

01:14:42.040 of that interview,

01:14:42.540 I never raised my voice.

01:14:44.140 I told him,

01:14:45.640 you know,

01:14:46.100 I think this is important

01:14:47.140 for people to hear,

01:14:48.680 especially considering

01:14:49.740 the type of discourse

01:14:52.540 that we're having

01:14:53.240 in the country right now.

01:14:55.020 And he supposedly says

01:14:56.200 this is a public square

01:14:57.240 for all.

01:14:58.820 Maybe we're learning

01:14:59.580 that a public square

01:15:00.240 should not be privately owned

01:15:01.540 by someone

01:15:02.640 who doesn't think

01:15:04.100 that there should be

01:15:04.720 any moderation

01:15:05.320 on that platform.

01:15:06.400 And I could tell

01:15:07.020 that he was upset

01:15:08.640 and he was uncomfortable.

01:15:10.540 It was tense.

01:15:11.280 And I said,

01:15:11.720 listen,

01:15:11.960 I'm not trying

01:15:12.380 to make you uncomfortable.

01:15:13.260 As a matter of fact,

01:15:14.300 I would go

01:15:14.700 and have a beer

01:15:15.500 and hash these things out.

01:15:17.380 You and I

01:15:17.900 do not agree on much,

01:15:19.820 but I will fight

01:15:20.740 for your right

01:15:21.500 to be able

01:15:23.900 to say

01:15:24.300 what you want to say.

01:15:25.680 That's what

01:15:26.100 freedom of speech

01:15:26.900 means to me.

01:15:27.580 Freedom of speech

01:15:28.100 does not mean,

01:15:28.820 I guess,

01:15:29.140 the same thing to him

01:15:30.120 as it does to me.

01:15:32.600 What?

01:15:35.220 He's delusional.

01:15:36.260 Don Lemon,

01:15:36.740 free speech champion.

01:15:37.740 That's a new one.

01:15:38.580 I mean,

01:15:39.060 who's got the drug problem? 0.77

01:15:40.400 I don't know.

01:15:41.780 Like that,

01:15:42.560 you can find that

01:15:43.380 in a psych ward.

01:15:44.580 We're joking.

01:15:45.760 We're laughing.

01:15:46.840 It's unbelievable,

01:15:48.000 though.

01:15:48.280 Like,

01:15:48.820 so first of all,

01:15:49.620 he didn't lose

01:15:50.160 any freedom of speech

01:15:50.840 whatsoever.

01:15:51.640 Absolutely none.

01:15:52.860 He will be seen

01:15:53.680 by the same four viewers

01:15:55.720 now

01:15:56.540 as he would have

01:15:57.780 before.

01:15:59.380 Elon said,

01:16:00.520 I'm not giving you millions.

01:16:01.800 By the way,

01:16:02.380 reportedly,

01:16:02.740 he just got like

01:16:03.440 a $25 million payoff

01:16:04.940 from CNN

01:16:05.500 for that firing.

01:16:07.120 They paid him out

01:16:07.960 as a deal

01:16:08.240 rather than

01:16:08.720 have a litigation

01:16:09.340 with him.

01:16:10.060 Then Elon reportedly

01:16:10.900 cut him a multi-million

01:16:11.780 dollar deal,

01:16:12.640 which he fucked up 0.98

01:16:13.540 right before he even

01:16:14.140 launched the show.

01:16:15.060 And now he's claiming

01:16:15.700 that it's free speech.

01:16:16.560 You're not the victim.

01:16:17.980 You're not the victim.

01:16:19.660 You're not a victim

01:16:20.420 in any way.

01:16:22.620 And yet he continues

01:16:23.960 to escape consequences.

01:16:26.140 Like CNN says,

01:16:27.180 OK,

01:16:27.280 you're fired

01:16:27.640 because you turn out

01:16:28.180 to be a misogynist

01:16:28.940 in our view.

01:16:29.600 And he runs

01:16:30.120 and plays the victim there.

01:16:31.340 Now this happens.

01:16:32.740 Oh,

01:16:32.920 it's I've been victimized again.

01:16:34.380 He doesn't like

01:16:34.880 diverse people.

01:16:35.660 He said twice

01:16:36.720 he claimed he wanted

01:16:37.800 something more diverse.

01:16:39.180 But I guess somebody like

01:16:39.980 diverse like me

01:16:41.320 isn't what he wanted.

01:16:42.400 We know what that's code for.

01:16:43.960 And he's reveling

01:16:44.900 once again, Ashbrook,

01:16:45.800 in me and my millions.

01:16:48.400 But Megan,

01:16:49.120 he didn't raise his voice.

01:16:51.240 Yeah,

01:16:51.640 that's the important thing

01:16:52.600 to talk us on.

01:16:53.520 Stuck to discourse.

01:16:54.900 And if Elon doesn't like it,

01:16:56.320 then he should give

01:16:57.240 his platform

01:16:57.840 to the public,

01:16:58.980 i.e. Don Lemon.

01:16:59.940 Yeah,

01:17:00.140 he should just give it

01:17:00.720 to Don Lemon.

01:17:01.800 And Tesla,

01:17:02.380 why is that?

01:17:03.140 You caught that,

01:17:03.820 right?

01:17:04.000 Where he was like,

01:17:04.420 maybe this person

01:17:05.380 shouldn't be owning

01:17:06.020 such a platform.

01:17:07.280 Yeah.

01:17:07.700 And the same breath

01:17:08.740 that he's like,

01:17:09.260 I fight for his right

01:17:10.480 to do it.

01:17:11.000 It's like,

01:17:11.280 well,

01:17:11.460 actually,

01:17:11.740 you're kind of fighting

01:17:12.300 for his right

01:17:12.760 to take it away.

01:17:14.620 And I'd love to have

01:17:15.480 a beer with you.

01:17:16.840 I think you're a racist

01:17:18.160 and a druggie

01:17:19.320 and you foment

01:17:20.420 mass shootings

01:17:22.000 and you shouldn't

01:17:23.540 own this platform.

01:17:24.120 Let's go have a beer.

01:17:25.900 Yeah,

01:17:26.260 I love that.

01:17:27.320 You know,

01:17:27.540 the only thing

01:17:28.140 that this was missing,

01:17:29.160 fellas,

01:17:29.480 is that Tubin

01:17:31.700 wasn't conducting

01:17:32.820 the interview.

01:17:33.720 Right.

01:17:34.260 Because if you got

01:17:34.900 the in-house masturbator

01:17:36.160 on it,

01:17:36.460 we would have completed

01:17:37.240 the full circle

01:17:38.380 of Ruthless

01:17:39.040 and like everything

01:17:40.440 that makes us happy.

01:17:42.120 Well,

01:17:42.320 I do have a fun view clip

01:17:43.560 coming up for you later.

01:17:44.560 So maybe we'll,

01:17:45.300 I don't know,

01:17:45.600 we'll see where that goes.

01:17:46.340 There's still plenty

01:17:47.000 more opportunity

01:17:47.620 for our old faves.

01:17:49.560 All right,

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01:17:52.140 Kate Middleton.

01:17:53.080 Not even kidding.

01:17:53.880 And we're going to do that next.

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01:18:55.340 Kate Middleton

01:19:00.640 owns the internet.

01:19:02.660 We haven't been

01:19:03.220 this united

01:19:03.980 as a country

01:19:04.620 since Tiger King.

01:19:06.100 She is the person

01:19:07.160 who has brought us together,

01:19:08.660 ironically a Brit,

01:19:09.800 bringing Americans together,

01:19:11.060 and everyone would like to know

01:19:14.100 what's wrong with her. 1.00

01:19:14.820 So Dan Wooten,

01:19:16.660 who has broken

01:19:17.380 pretty much every piece

01:19:18.900 of big,

01:19:20.140 huge royal news

01:19:21.480 over the past 10 years,

01:19:22.940 was on the program yesterday

01:19:24.160 saying Kate is,

01:19:25.420 quote,

01:19:25.700 very unwell,

01:19:27.200 that she is alive

01:19:28.500 because some of the conspiracy theorists

01:19:30.360 on the internet

01:19:30.780 are wondering whether she's

01:19:31.920 even still with us.

01:19:33.020 God,

01:19:33.440 you know,

01:19:33.620 it's a joke,

01:19:34.140 but I mean,

01:19:34.380 it's not a joke by me,

01:19:35.380 whatever,

01:19:35.820 but they think that

01:19:36.620 she's very unwell,

01:19:38.520 but he does say

01:19:39.360 she's expected to get better,

01:19:41.080 but many,

01:19:42.200 many people think

01:19:43.020 that this is either

01:19:45.080 from its get-go

01:19:46.060 or has morphed into

01:19:47.420 or is in some way

01:19:48.300 related to

01:19:49.060 marital strife

01:19:50.580 between Kate Middleton

01:19:52.240 and her husband,

01:19:54.720 Prince William,

01:19:55.540 that he allegedly cheated on her,

01:19:59.300 okay,

01:19:59.620 hold on,

01:20:00.220 with somebody named

01:20:02.100 Sarah Rose Hanbury.

01:20:05.000 Dan Wooten broke that story too

01:20:06.840 back in,

01:20:08.120 I think,

01:20:08.340 2019

01:20:08.840 that he,

01:20:10.160 you know,

01:20:10.500 had an affair partner

01:20:11.300 and she stayed with him,

01:20:13.240 Kate Middleton,

01:20:13.820 and it's not that unusual

01:20:14.940 for these princes

01:20:15.720 or kings,

01:20:16.500 whatever,

01:20:16.840 to have someone on the side

01:20:18.600 and that somehow

01:20:19.820 this is all related

01:20:21.360 to what we're seeing.

01:20:22.720 Now,

01:20:22.860 this leads to things

01:20:23.980 like the following.

01:20:24.760 from TikTok

01:20:26.120 and someone

01:20:26.800 who calls themselves

01:20:27.960 pop apologists.

01:20:30.480 Take a look at this theory.

01:20:32.620 Where is Kate Middleton?

01:20:34.520 Part 16.

01:20:37.340 This will be

01:20:38.500 the most shocking video

01:20:39.900 of the entire series

01:20:41.340 and I pray

01:20:42.420 this is not true.

01:20:44.300 I got a message yesterday

01:20:46.020 about Rose Hanbury

01:20:47.280 that seemed so preposterous,

01:20:49.900 that seemed so out there,

01:20:51.220 I ignored it.

01:20:52.140 Word around London

01:20:53.100 and what a lot of people

01:20:54.300 believe is

01:20:54.740 going on

01:20:55.320 and I'm just going to say

01:20:56.420 it,

01:20:56.580 it's so crazy

01:20:57.720 but apparently

01:20:58.740 the affair

01:20:59.260 with Rose Hanbury,

01:21:00.320 it never stopped

01:21:01.640 and Rose Hanbury

01:21:02.980 right now

01:21:03.660 is pregnant

01:21:04.820 with William's baby

01:21:06.100 and she's keeping it.

01:21:07.880 In the ambulances

01:21:08.660 that were seen

01:21:09.320 leaving Sandringham

01:21:10.300 right after Christmas,

01:21:11.880 we're taking Kate

01:21:12.720 who's having

01:21:13.460 a complete mental breakdown.

01:21:15.880 Kate is allegedly

01:21:16.600 completely done.

01:21:17.640 She's no longer

01:21:18.500 cooperating

01:21:19.040 with Kensington Palace

01:21:19.940 which is why

01:21:20.460 we can only get

01:21:21.300 these fake photos

01:21:22.600 of her.

01:21:24.160 Okay.

01:21:25.440 Also,

01:21:26.240 they found the body

01:21:27.320 at Area 47

01:21:28.580 out in Nevada.

01:21:30.360 People have lost

01:21:32.060 their minds

01:21:32.520 but there is

01:21:35.040 something going on

01:21:35.960 and it does appear

01:21:36.760 that Kate Middleton

01:21:37.420 seems pissed off

01:21:38.660 because the latest

01:21:39.280 paparazzi shot of her,

01:21:40.460 she intentionally

01:21:40.900 looked the other way,

01:21:41.720 she didn't make eye contact

01:21:42.480 with the camera.

01:21:43.180 We don't know exactly

01:21:44.020 what's happening.

01:21:44.520 what do you guys

01:21:45.680 think is going on

01:21:46.740 with Kate Middleton?

01:21:47.800 Well, let me start

01:21:49.000 with that.

01:21:49.300 I was under the impression

01:21:50.280 that we fought a war

01:21:51.220 so I wouldn't have

01:21:52.000 to care about

01:21:52.600 these people.

01:21:54.380 But frankly,

01:21:57.040 Megan,

01:21:57.360 you had me

01:21:57.940 at royal side piece.

01:22:00.340 So now I'm willing

01:22:03.280 to entertain

01:22:03.780 all of this.

01:22:06.020 You know,

01:22:07.000 they were told

01:22:08.520 in January

01:22:09.280 that she was having

01:22:10.040 some abdominal surgery

01:22:11.180 and that she would

01:22:11.760 basically not be

01:22:13.020 in public

01:22:13.860 until Easter.

01:22:15.140 Well, I mean,

01:22:15.680 it's not Easter yet,

01:22:17.180 right?

01:22:17.620 So I guess

01:22:19.320 the photo that came out

01:22:20.780 was like kind of

01:22:21.560 photoshopped

01:22:22.320 or whatever

01:22:22.720 and I don't know

01:22:23.140 if that means

01:22:23.680 that like

01:22:24.020 in the photo.

01:22:25.900 I don't know

01:22:26.320 what that means.

01:22:26.860 I haven't done

01:22:27.240 enough homework on that.

01:22:28.620 But like,

01:22:29.180 I don't know.

01:22:29.780 I just have a hard time

01:22:30.840 getting all worked up

01:22:32.720 about it.

01:22:33.260 I have no idea.

01:22:34.740 Apparently,

01:22:35.220 this is a big deal

01:22:35.800 to a lot of people though.

01:22:37.220 Yeah, so I don't use

01:22:38.440 Chinese spyware apps

01:22:39.860 so I'm not on TikTok

01:22:41.400 but I enjoyed

01:22:42.620 really the

01:22:43.680 like 30 seconds

01:22:44.620 of brain damage

01:22:45.480 that like

01:22:45.960 we just witnessed.

01:22:48.060 Actually, it's entertaining.

01:22:49.140 I think that's the problem here

01:22:50.220 is like

01:22:50.900 yes, it's insanity

01:22:52.040 but sometimes insanity

01:22:53.080 can be fun.

01:22:53.940 So now I'm willing

01:22:54.900 to entertain

01:22:55.320 all the crazy shit.

01:22:56.240 I think

01:22:56.460 I'm not a doctor.

01:22:57.860 Maybe she is dead.

01:22:59.100 Maybe this is a cover-up.

01:23:00.300 Maybe the mistress killed her 1.00

01:23:01.500 and dresses up like her

01:23:02.620 in the fake shots

01:23:03.960 that the royal family

01:23:04.800 is setting up.

01:23:05.420 I mean,

01:23:05.600 we know they're not

01:23:06.160 trustworthy people

01:23:06.940 and they all hate each other.

01:23:08.360 And she's dead.

01:23:08.960 They do lie.

01:23:09.480 She's cloistered away

01:23:11.320 with Princess Di somewhere.

01:23:12.900 Yeah, could be.

01:23:13.680 I mean like

01:23:14.020 the thing I really

01:23:16.900 come to the conclusion

01:23:18.020 is if this was

01:23:19.380 some kind of

01:23:20.620 a serious medical condition

01:23:22.240 that, you know,

01:23:23.560 Kate had

01:23:23.900 whether it was cancer

01:23:24.680 or something like that,

01:23:26.420 you know,

01:23:26.760 the royal family

01:23:27.660 would be farming sympathy

01:23:29.480 as much as possible.

01:23:30.520 They've been in a

01:23:31.320 years-long PR war

01:23:32.800 with a like red-headed son

01:23:34.760 and his wife

01:23:35.960 so like

01:23:36.960 they would try

01:23:37.560 to get people

01:23:38.100 on their side

01:23:38.560 by any means necessary

01:23:39.440 but the fact

01:23:40.000 that they're not

01:23:40.600 means they must be

01:23:42.140 doing something sketchy.

01:23:43.760 What do you think, Don?

01:23:44.460 That's what's

01:23:44.920 that's scary.

01:23:46.580 I mean,

01:23:46.880 we have a mental

01:23:47.520 mental health crisis

01:23:49.200 in this country.

01:23:50.800 We really do.

01:23:52.460 I mean,

01:23:52.940 I knew that video

01:23:53.940 was going to be a banger 0.75

01:23:54.860 in the first

01:23:55.880 in the first four seconds

01:23:57.420 when she said

01:23:58.000 this is part 16.

01:24:01.400 Buckle up. 0.96

01:24:04.760 I feel like

01:24:07.500 I need some

01:24:08.080 scary music.

01:24:09.900 My God.

01:24:11.940 You got to give her

01:24:12.540 points on the production

01:24:13.420 value, right?

01:24:14.240 With the music.

01:24:16.040 It sucks you right in.

01:24:18.520 The photos,

01:24:19.640 I'll tell you,

01:24:20.080 so I

01:24:20.620 I don't feel bad

01:24:22.420 talking about this

01:24:23.340 even a little

01:24:24.520 because literally

01:24:26.020 she might be 0.85

01:24:26.800 the most famous woman

01:24:27.760 in the world.

01:24:28.940 I mean,

01:24:29.140 I can't think of somebody

01:24:30.000 who's more famous

01:24:30.820 than Kate Middleton

01:24:31.700 and how did she get

01:24:33.100 so famous?

01:24:33.620 She married Prince William.

01:24:35.500 Was that an accident?

01:24:36.620 Hell no.

01:24:37.640 She

01:24:37.760 they were calling her

01:24:38.720 the weighty Katie

01:24:39.320 and all that

01:24:39.680 which she didn't like

01:24:40.380 which I understand

01:24:40.920 but I mean,

01:24:41.440 she wanted to marry him

01:24:42.380 and I'm sure it wasn't

01:24:43.360 just because of his

01:24:43.920 lovely hair.

01:24:45.160 So they

01:24:46.040 did get married

01:24:47.040 and she became

01:24:47.720 one of the

01:24:48.140 most famous

01:24:48.940 richest

01:24:49.580 whatever

01:24:50.000 all the stuff

01:24:50.560 and this is the

01:24:51.540 downside of it.

01:24:52.480 There's interest in you.

01:24:53.700 There's way

01:24:54.520 more upside

01:24:56.000 than there is downside

01:24:57.140 to having people

01:24:58.260 this

01:24:58.960 interested

01:25:00.020 in you

01:25:00.780 and unfortunately

01:25:02.420 that means

01:25:03.260 if you have

01:25:03.720 a major health crisis

01:25:04.740 people are going

01:25:05.860 to want to know

01:25:06.360 about it

01:25:06.820 and that was true

01:25:07.460 for the queen

01:25:08.040 and it's really true

01:25:09.500 for a 42 year old

01:25:11.260 future queen

01:25:12.200 who shouldn't be

01:25:13.320 having

01:25:13.720 one month stays

01:25:15.440 in the hospital

01:25:16.080 and then three month

01:25:17.440 reclusive periods

01:25:18.640 thereafter

01:25:19.080 to the point

01:25:20.020 where she has to

01:25:20.620 release

01:25:21.020 which she did

01:25:21.940 by the way

01:25:22.360 she got us

01:25:23.160 paying attention

01:25:24.140 to her

01:25:24.600 by releasing

01:25:25.480 the photograph

01:25:25.940 she could have

01:25:26.360 just said

01:25:26.660 I've gone underground

01:25:27.540 I'm still in my recovery

01:25:28.580 I'm not

01:25:28.960 but she released

01:25:30.280 through the palace

01:25:31.280 this photo

01:25:31.840 of her and the family

01:25:32.600 which was a fake

01:25:33.600 I don't know exactly

01:25:34.720 what she did to it

01:25:35.560 or how she did it

01:25:36.600 but you know

01:25:37.340 Dan who I love

01:25:38.080 he's got sources there

01:25:40.040 so he's got to be careful

01:25:40.740 but he was like

01:25:41.820 oh haven't we all

01:25:42.820 photo

01:25:43.200 you know

01:25:43.780 edited a photo

01:25:44.600 here or there

01:25:45.120 the sleeves

01:25:46.560 on the child

01:25:47.220 were different

01:25:47.760 the sweater

01:25:49.020 on the boy

01:25:49.640 was different

01:25:50.240 like there were

01:25:51.520 so many

01:25:51.880 the skirt

01:25:52.380 was different

01:25:52.860 like when we

01:25:54.040 edit a photo

01:25:54.620 you put like

01:25:55.360 a different lighting

01:25:56.260 on it

01:25:57.020 or maybe you like

01:25:58.060 retouch a blemish 0.99

01:25:59.580 you don't like

01:26:00.460 change out

01:26:01.120 everybody's outfit

01:26:01.900 and superimpose you

01:26:02.940 from the British Vogue cover

01:26:03.980 or wherever

01:26:04.340 like something massive

01:26:05.820 happened in that thing

01:26:06.640 it was a fake

01:26:07.300 and a fraud

01:26:07.760 to the point

01:26:08.140 where the agencies

01:26:08.780 all pulled it

01:26:09.420 so I make no apologies

01:26:11.620 for being interested

01:26:12.440 in this

01:26:12.800 because when people

01:26:14.480 smell a lie

01:26:15.600 especially involving

01:26:17.020 somebody that rich

01:26:17.680 and powerful

01:26:18.160 they don't let go

01:26:19.520 can we get

01:26:21.580 can we get back

01:26:22.260 to the royal side piece

01:26:23.340 part of this

01:26:23.980 there's more

01:26:25.800 I've never heard

01:26:26.320 about this before

01:26:27.000 is there's more

01:26:27.860 I missed the whole

01:26:29.980 initial report

01:26:30.920 there's a whole theory

01:26:32.680 that this woman

01:26:34.140 did have an affair

01:26:35.340 with Prince William

01:26:36.060 and Kate found out

01:26:37.960 about it

01:26:38.300 but stuck with him

01:26:39.020 because she would

01:26:39.500 never leave Prince William

01:26:40.500 and that this woman

01:26:42.940 used to be

01:26:44.360 she's also a royal

01:26:45.420 so she's somehow

01:26:46.080 somehow a royal

01:26:46.980 but she used to be 1.00

01:26:49.140 very beautiful

01:26:50.840 forgive me

01:26:51.760 this is the rumor

01:26:52.380 and that now

01:26:53.860 oh no

01:26:55.020 that now

01:26:56.960 maybe less so

01:26:58.540 after all

01:26:59.740 of the brain damage

01:27:01.000 this is

01:27:01.860 unconfirmed

01:27:03.040 to be clear

01:27:03.760 this is a rumor

01:27:04.840 that given

01:27:06.360 all the strife

01:27:07.420 she's gone through

01:27:08.420 with this royal family

01:27:10.400 I don't like

01:27:11.220 I don't know

01:27:11.980 what's true

01:27:12.520 they all

01:27:13.040 you know

01:27:13.700 for years

01:27:14.220 the royals

01:27:14.640 have been

01:27:14.980 marrying internally

01:27:16.600 and having affairs

01:27:18.040 internally

01:27:18.580 it's like

01:27:18.960 first cousin

01:27:19.460 is not a deal breaker

01:27:20.280 for anybody

01:27:21.500 in the royal family

01:27:22.440 well I mean

01:27:23.160 this is the thing

01:27:23.540 I don't think

01:27:24.060 that the bald prince

01:27:25.160 would cheat

01:27:26.040 on his wife

01:27:27.300 the bald one

01:27:27.960 yeah

01:27:28.300 I mean like

01:27:28.880 his dad probably

01:27:29.920 set a good example

01:27:30.920 of the importance

01:27:32.240 of marriage

01:27:32.800 and his mom too

01:27:33.900 yeah

01:27:34.360 you know

01:27:35.180 all right

01:27:35.880 good point

01:27:36.460 here's my

01:27:38.560 here's my view clip

01:27:39.460 for you for the day

01:27:40.140 they don't think

01:27:41.220 this is appropriate

01:27:41.900 whoopi Goldberg

01:27:42.900 would like us all

01:27:43.520 to just STFU

01:27:44.680 watch

01:27:45.120 you took a picture

01:27:47.240 she said listen

01:27:48.000 I photoshopped it

01:27:48.980 myself

01:27:49.320 whoever took it

01:27:51.220 someone took it

01:27:51.580 of her

01:27:51.820 she

01:27:52.040 see

01:27:52.720 you know

01:27:53.300 the palace

01:27:53.900 didn't they photoshopped

01:27:55.260 the photo

01:27:55.560 the palace also

01:27:56.300 made a mistake

01:27:57.000 and then they released

01:27:57.640 two photoshopped photos

01:27:58.780 we're gonna go to break

01:27:59.640 too angry now

01:28:00.840 yes because it just

01:28:02.100 it's

01:28:02.480 people do this to you

01:28:04.200 you know

01:28:04.540 you haven't had this

01:28:05.360 done to you

01:28:05.980 this stuff

01:28:06.780 no no

01:28:08.100 it's our fault

01:28:09.300 it's our fault

01:28:10.320 because we bought

01:28:11.160 into this

01:28:11.840 when you buy

01:28:12.840 into this stuff

01:28:13.520 when they start

01:28:14.060 doing it to your family

01:28:15.200 or they start

01:28:15.960 doing it to your kids

01:28:17.000 it's not cute

01:28:18.020 it's not fun

01:28:19.340 and it really

01:28:20.060 irritates

01:28:20.660 why then

01:28:21.920 didn't she just

01:28:22.740 put the family together

01:28:24.100 and get a photographer

01:28:25.020 to take the picture

01:28:25.840 because she's not there

01:28:26.600 I'm gonna put this out

01:28:28.360 because you're gonna

01:28:28.980 get hammered for this

01:28:30.160 it's true

01:28:30.620 yes

01:28:31.260 I'm just gonna say it

01:28:32.840 this is all speculation

01:28:34.200 and we're having fun

01:28:35.500 okay

01:28:36.160 just know that we know

01:28:37.980 that we don't know

01:28:39.480 oh my lord

01:28:41.900 well it's nice

01:28:44.660 to see that

01:28:45.240 whoopies engaged

01:28:46.220 in ethics

01:28:46.740 and journalism

01:28:47.340 I think that's like

01:28:50.700 extremely telling

01:28:52.140 of leftists now

01:28:53.480 where they're like

01:28:54.100 how dare you

01:28:55.160 not lick the boots

01:28:55.960 of our royalty

01:28:56.660 you know

01:28:58.440 like

01:28:58.780 how did this happen

01:29:00.220 where they're like

01:29:01.000 okay

01:29:01.600 you're not allowed

01:29:02.280 to criticize royals

01:29:03.680 but I hope

01:29:04.380 journalists hunt down

01:29:05.260 some grandma

01:29:05.860 for a Facebook meme

01:29:06.960 and try to ruin her life 0.62

01:29:08.120 like

01:29:08.480 sort through her mail

01:29:09.440 fair game is not

01:29:10.260 the royal family

01:29:11.280 of course they're fair game

01:29:12.640 and she's like

01:29:13.220 well how would you feel

01:29:13.900 if your children

01:29:14.400 hunted down

01:29:14.780 I doubt

01:29:15.680 any journalist cares

01:29:16.720 about some random kid

01:29:17.640 on Photoshop

01:29:18.020 CNN will probably

01:29:18.900 hunt him down

01:29:19.400 if they disagree with it

01:29:20.380 but like

01:29:20.780 that is an insane

01:29:22.000 comparison to be like

01:29:22.880 that is very unfair

01:29:24.600 and mean

01:29:25.040 to be critical

01:29:25.720 of the royal family

01:29:27.240 that's a great

01:29:29.380 I really

01:29:29.920 I really like

01:29:30.720 I really like

01:29:31.440 that

01:29:31.720 that Whoopi said

01:29:33.160 we don't actually

01:29:34.060 know what we're

01:29:34.460 talking about

01:29:34.960 this is all just

01:29:35.580 speculation

01:29:35.940 and I really wish

01:29:37.360 she had that disclaimer 0.65

01:29:38.460 on every single

01:29:39.420 one per second

01:29:40.260 nice to say

01:29:42.480 a blanket disclaimer

01:29:44.440 at the beginning

01:29:45.000 of every show

01:29:45.600 like a crawl

01:29:46.300 a crawl going along

01:29:47.480 she was

01:29:48.260 she was one step away 0.63

01:29:50.160 from accusing us

01:29:51.080 of doxing Kate Middleton

01:29:52.540 it's like

01:29:52.980 Kate is famous

01:29:55.420 Catherine

01:29:55.940 because she's literally 0.89

01:29:57.220 the princess of Wales

01:29:58.560 she's the future queen

01:30:00.380 that's why

01:30:01.600 we're interested in her

01:30:02.560 it was a position

01:30:03.640 she sought

01:30:04.520 and accepted

01:30:05.340 she puts herself

01:30:06.620 out there

01:30:07.240 on the balcony

01:30:08.260 in the pictures

01:30:09.320 along with her husband

01:30:10.240 they of course

01:30:11.200 make the children

01:30:11.960 public figures

01:30:13.040 where they're born

01:30:14.020 public figures

01:30:14.660 and then they remain

01:30:15.500 and get touted

01:30:16.640 and flouted

01:30:17.260 and all the rest of it

01:30:18.200 that's a choice

01:30:19.460 you don't have to do that

01:30:20.960 especially Kate

01:30:21.520 she could have remained 0.51

01:30:22.480 a commoner

01:30:22.980 like she was

01:30:23.620 this is like

01:30:24.820 what it comes

01:30:25.640 with the territory

01:30:26.340 I'm sorry

01:30:27.060 I know you want to keep

01:30:28.660 whatever happened

01:30:29.200 to you private

01:30:29.680 you kind of

01:30:30.760 that ship sailed 0.75

01:30:31.920 when you joined

01:30:33.160 this wacky family

01:30:34.380 and now people

01:30:35.560 are interested in you

01:30:36.500 for better

01:30:37.080 or for worse

01:30:37.900 net net

01:30:38.540 it's for better

01:30:39.300 so that's that

01:30:40.140 okay let's move on

01:30:41.220 because your other friend

01:30:42.780 Dylan Mulvaney

01:30:43.440 is in the

01:30:44.000 no that's mine

01:30:44.920 is in the news

01:30:46.660 I'm sorry

01:30:47.280 I've got to do it

01:30:48.000 but Dylan

01:30:48.440 is in the news

01:30:49.620 celebrating

01:30:50.180 his second year

01:30:52.220 of being a girl

01:30:53.360 and has decided

01:30:55.260 to go full music video

01:30:56.660 there's a viewer

01:30:57.280 warning attached to this

01:30:58.400 all viewers

01:30:59.700 will find this disturbing

01:31:00.880 including this one

01:31:02.600 boys on the dance floor

01:31:04.400 it's time to clear

01:31:05.700 the patriarchy's over

01:31:07.460 you can hold our fear

01:31:09.240 back at home

01:31:10.760 we replay the breakup

01:31:12.480 stay up all night

01:31:14.180 fall asleep in our makeup

01:31:15.840 mom brought me into the world

01:31:17.720 sister taught me how to girl

01:31:19.480 best friend coached me

01:31:20.480 how to text the boy toy

01:31:21.720 that I'm dating

01:31:22.480 girls who helped

01:31:24.000 show me the way

01:31:25.720 they're why I'm in it

01:31:27.620 girl today

01:31:28.740 these are the days

01:31:31.820 these are the days

01:31:33.460 these are the days

01:31:34.960 of girlhood

01:31:36.400 these are the days

01:31:38.500 these are the days

01:31:40.180 these are the days

01:31:41.600 of girlhood

01:31:42.840 every day

01:31:43.680 every night

01:31:44.480 you raise a shine

01:31:45.380 you're all mine

01:31:46.100 you can fit in

01:31:46.980 I'll be alright

01:31:47.700 got my dolls

01:31:48.780 by my side

01:31:49.660 that's the meanest thing

01:31:52.540 you've ever done

01:31:53.060 it's just terrible

01:31:55.300 it's terrible

01:31:56.140 my only complaint

01:31:57.460 about Twitter

01:31:57.940 is that when you look

01:31:58.660 at libs of TikTok

01:31:59.400 and you click on a link

01:32:00.500 to read it

01:32:01.020 then all of a sudden

01:32:01.700 the algorithm pushes

01:32:02.740 these trans

01:32:03.760 at the top of your thing

01:32:05.280 and you cannot get

01:32:06.200 you can't get away from it

01:32:07.280 and then you come to

01:32:08.100 the Megyn Kelly show

01:32:08.940 for some fun and frivolity

01:32:10.260 and it's right in front

01:32:12.800 of your face

01:32:13.400 you can't get away

01:32:14.180 I feel like one of those

01:32:17.420 Germans who just stared

01:32:18.520 at the Ark of the Covenant

01:32:19.440 I will say

01:32:22.360 it is fitting

01:32:23.340 it is fitting

01:32:24.280 that Dylan Mulvaney's

01:32:26.000 music video

01:32:26.940 is auto-tuned

01:32:27.880 yeah

01:32:28.400 that's true

01:32:30.240 everything is fake

01:32:31.520 this song talks about

01:32:33.860 calling all women 1.00

01:32:34.960 of all ages

01:32:35.400 girls like me 0.95

01:32:36.780 gotta learn

01:32:38.000 the basics

01:32:38.980 Monday can't get out of bed

01:32:40.960 so Dylan's depressed

01:32:42.080 Tuesday morning

01:32:42.980 pick up meds

01:32:44.500 Dylan's obviously

01:32:45.420 on meds

01:32:46.400 Wednesday retail therapy

01:32:48.040 yes you need a lot

01:32:48.800 of therapy

01:32:49.320 cash or credit

01:32:50.820 I say yes

01:32:51.320 going into debt

01:32:51.920 Thursday had a walk

01:32:53.160 of shame

01:32:53.620 so you're a slut 1.00

01:32:54.580 didn't even know

01:32:55.720 his name

01:32:56.160 yep

01:32:56.480 promiscuity

01:32:57.280 slutty

01:32:58.000 so how many things

01:32:59.140 like what is Dylan's

01:33:00.040 view of being a woman

01:33:00.880 you're a

01:33:01.620 you're a medicated

01:33:03.300 depressed slut 1.00

01:33:04.820 I mean so that's the

01:33:06.940 thing is

01:33:07.420 so when I saw this

01:33:08.780 really something to

01:33:09.300 point to

01:33:09.760 so when I saw this

01:33:11.040 on Twitter

01:33:12.040 I was fortunate

01:33:12.920 number one

01:33:13.540 that it was a screenshot

01:33:14.540 not the video that

01:33:15.380 you just forced us

01:33:16.700 to watch

01:33:17.220 this person had

01:33:20.260 exactly that

01:33:20.980 laundry list

01:33:21.680 of like

01:33:22.160 essentially

01:33:22.860 this is what

01:33:23.620 they're trying

01:33:24.060 to tell the

01:33:24.720 daughters of America

01:33:25.520 what it means

01:33:26.100 to be a girl

01:33:26.820 source

01:33:27.660 a dude

01:33:28.320 like this is

01:33:29.340 insanity

01:33:29.960 they've got like

01:33:30.820 you know

01:33:31.520 through 900 steps

01:33:32.680 to get back

01:33:33.320 to misogyny

01:33:34.120 right

01:33:34.880 like this guy's

01:33:35.880 had to have

01:33:36.280 surgeries

01:33:36.840 and is drugged

01:33:37.660 up to go back

01:33:38.500 to being a guy

01:33:39.520 who's telling

01:33:40.520 women 1.00

01:33:40.840 that you're

01:33:41.680 a sex object

01:33:42.480 who's expected

01:33:43.180 to be terrible

01:33:43.940 with money

01:33:44.520 get drunk

01:33:45.460 and party

01:33:46.100 and be left

01:33:46.780 behind

01:33:47.220 yeah

01:33:47.920 no it's just

01:33:48.800 that's now

01:33:49.400 become like

01:33:50.080 the progressive

01:33:50.780 world view

01:33:51.580 how did that

01:33:52.480 ever happen

01:33:53.140 oh it's a good

01:33:53.980 point

01:33:54.400 I also thought

01:33:55.300 like 20

01:33:55.780 it's good to

01:33:57.620 it's good to laugh

01:33:58.960 right

01:33:59.220 I mean it's good

01:33:59.660 to laugh

01:34:00.060 because it's just

01:34:00.520 it's so dark

01:34:03.140 sure

01:34:04.100 no I have to say

01:34:05.640 so Dylan says

01:34:06.240 this is a

01:34:07.860 she said

01:34:08.860 he is celebrating

01:34:09.920 his femininity

01:34:11.800 here

01:34:12.460 those are all

01:34:13.480 all trans people

01:34:14.760 in that video

01:34:15.480 in case you

01:34:15.860 weren't able

01:34:16.140 to tell

01:34:16.500 everyone there

01:34:17.060 is a man

01:34:17.440 and I

01:34:19.160 when I really

01:34:20.040 looked at it

01:34:20.540 I just thought

01:34:21.560 I find Dylan

01:34:22.420 offensive on a

01:34:23.120 number of levels

01:34:23.760 and that's not

01:34:24.360 to say all trans 0.75

01:34:25.060 people are

01:34:25.480 but Dylan

01:34:25.960 in particular

01:34:26.720 is offensive

01:34:27.540 and I'm sick

01:34:28.780 and tired

01:34:29.180 of the girls

01:34:29.900 the days of

01:34:31.020 girlhood

01:34:31.520 something about

01:34:32.780 which he knows

01:34:33.440 nothing

01:34:33.940 as a former

01:34:34.860 girl myself

01:34:35.680 now a woman

01:34:36.500 and a woman

01:34:37.340 who's raising

01:34:38.060 a girl right 0.93

01:34:38.860 now at the

01:34:39.320 tender age of

01:34:39.880 12

01:34:40.260 I can tell you

01:34:41.540 it is magical

01:34:42.800 and beautiful

01:34:43.560 and full

01:34:44.240 of exciting

01:34:45.400 openness

01:34:46.760 and creativity

01:34:47.540 and finding

01:34:48.260 all things

01:34:49.140 about yourself

01:34:49.720 and it can

01:34:50.520 also be

01:34:51.000 challenging

01:34:51.500 and surprising

01:34:53.060 and at points

01:34:54.140 dangerous

01:34:54.600 when you come

01:34:55.140 of age

01:34:55.440 and go off

01:34:55.760 to college

01:34:56.040 all that stuff

01:34:56.780 and Dylan

01:34:57.520 will never

01:34:57.900 know anything

01:34:58.780 about it

01:34:59.640 because he's

01:35:00.380 a man

01:35:00.820 he will never

01:35:01.760 know the

01:35:02.280 blessings that

01:35:02.800 come with

01:35:03.140 being a young

01:35:03.640 girl who's

01:35:04.040 coming of age

01:35:04.620 and figuring

01:35:04.940 out your

01:35:05.280 place in the

01:35:05.720 world

01:35:05.940 or actually

01:35:06.540 standing up

01:35:07.100 in a room

01:35:07.440 full of men

01:35:07.960 and being

01:35:08.540 the one

01:35:08.800 who knows

01:35:09.220 more

01:35:09.620 that's a

01:35:10.320 wonderful

01:35:10.620 experience

01:35:11.140 that Dylan

01:35:11.540 will never

01:35:11.900 have male

01:35:12.480 or female

01:35:13.080 and I

01:35:14.400 hate

01:35:14.940 that he

01:35:15.380 keeps trying

01:35:15.880 to drop

01:35:16.340 himself

01:35:16.720 into my

01:35:17.840 gender

01:35:18.240 my sex 0.86

01:35:18.960 and try

01:35:19.820 to give us

01:35:20.240 lessons

01:35:20.920 about what

01:35:21.540 it means

01:35:21.900 he knows

01:35:22.360 not the

01:35:23.060 first thing

01:35:23.560 all right

01:35:24.300 guys

01:35:24.560 I stole

01:35:25.260 the last

01:35:25.600 word

01:35:25.760 but it's

01:35:26.100 always a

01:35:26.600 pleasure

01:35:26.960 thank you

01:35:27.740 so much

01:35:28.160 for being

01:35:28.440 with me

01:35:28.840 today

01:35:29.060 and watching

01:35:29.780 that last

01:35:30.380 video

01:35:31.000 yeah

01:35:31.460 thank you

01:35:31.880 for that

01:35:32.200 and that

01:35:32.920 would make

01:35:33.200 a great

01:35:33.500 statement

01:35:33.760 response

01:35:34.400 just keep

01:35:35.400 it in mind

01:35:35.900 oh my god

01:35:37.600 you get the

01:35:39.120 greatest

01:35:39.620 no it

01:35:40.160 wouldn't

01:35:40.520 all right

01:35:41.000 lots of love

01:35:42.200 guys

01:35:42.500 see you soon

01:35:43.040 thank you

01:35:43.960 okay so

01:35:45.960 I am off

01:35:46.540 tomorrow

01:35:46.960 unless this

01:35:47.680 Fannie Willis

01:35:48.300 ruling drops

01:35:49.000 whenever it

01:35:49.540 drops we're

01:35:50.100 going to be

01:35:50.340 back for a

01:35:50.780 breaking news

01:35:51.380 show so

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01:35:53.300 our feed

01:35:53.900 and thanks to

01:35:54.360 all of you

01:35:54.620 for watching

01:35:55.000 us

01:35:55.240 thanks for

01:35:58.820 listening to

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01:35:59.580 Kelly show

01:36:00.200 no BS

01:36:01.080 no agenda

01:36:01.840 and no fear

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Trump’s Possible VP Contenders, Don Lemon’s Disastrous Interview with Elon Musk, Prince William Affair Rumors, with Dershowitz and Ruthless Hosts ｜ Ep. 746

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