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00:00:30.000 Hey, Michael Knowles here with the latest dispatches from the war on Christmas and so much more.

00:00:35.040 In the latest Daily Wire backstage, Come All Ye Faithful, we give the gift that keeps on giving, namely talking about the hilarious Democrats who think they will be president.

00:00:45.300 You will hear from me, Ben Shapiro, Andrew Klavan, the God King Jeremy Boren, and since you've been so good this year, you will also hear from our special guest, Adam Carolla, to talk about his new film, No Safe Spaces.

00:00:57.960 Take a listen.

00:01:00.000 How about a fake laugh?

00:01:07.320 It's hard even to gin up a fake laugh.

00:01:10.400 And I'll tell you why.

00:01:12.080 It's because the real world is so damn funny.

00:01:14.940 It's not fake.

00:01:15.980 Yeah, I can't stop laughing at reality and then when it's time to do a fake laugh.

00:01:18.820 By the way, I have to say, I'm so glad that you actually got this for like the week when this person's going to be relevant.

00:01:23.500 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:01:24.500 It's Christmas time, man.

00:01:25.280 Welcome to the Daily Wire backstage.

00:01:28.460 The Kamali, I can't even say it, the Kamali faithful.

00:01:32.000 I really blew that joke and it's such a good joke.

00:01:34.080 It's such a great joke.

00:01:35.140 But what's happening is our teleprompter doesn't work.

00:01:37.100 Oh, no.

00:01:37.660 And so then.

00:01:38.400 As per usual arrangement.

00:01:39.480 Yeah.

00:01:39.820 So then you're just off your.

00:01:40.860 It was working two minutes ago.

00:01:42.560 Yeah, yeah.

00:01:43.060 Well, two minutes ago, we weren't shooting a show.

00:01:44.360 It is I, Jeremy Boring, your trusty neighborhood Daily Wire God King with a lowercase g and a lowercase k.

00:01:51.640 And I am joined as always by Benjamin Shapiro, Michael Knowles, Andrew Klavan, and Elisha Krause.

00:02:00.320 I didn't call her lovely.

00:02:01.740 I just wanted to.

00:02:02.340 She makes it up.

00:02:03.220 She so is.

00:02:03.960 I know.

00:02:04.900 But it's disparaging women. 1.00

00:02:05.940 Look lovely tonight.

00:02:06.920 Sheesh.

00:02:07.720 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:02:09.100 The lovely Elisha Krause.

00:02:10.820 Elisha, how you doing?

00:02:11.480 I'm pretty good and my teleprompter is working, so this is the opportunity that I have to take over the show.

00:02:16.640 No, I'm kidding.

00:02:17.440 I'm just here to remind all of our subscribers out there that are watching at home or, I don't know, on the metro,

00:02:22.260 if you're stuck on the D.C. or New York metro or somewhere in an airport headed home or to work, whatever.

00:02:27.360 If you want to ask the guys questions, you have to be a Daily Wire subscriber.

00:02:31.100 Go over to dailywire.com.

00:02:32.540 Be sure to find the show's page up at the top and click on backstage and then type your questions into the chat box.

00:02:38.220 Questions are already pouring in.

00:02:39.900 It sits next to the video.

00:02:41.120 The chat box is right next to the video, so you can be watching and chatting at the same time.

00:02:44.760 And I don't know if he's teased it yet or not.

00:02:47.300 Can I tease the big guest tonight?

00:02:49.700 Am I allowed?

00:02:50.540 I think she already did.

00:02:52.540 I was saving it for when I remembered later on.

00:02:56.620 Because I don't have a teleprompter to actually hear me about these things.

00:03:00.000 So I think it'd be best if you did it, Elisha.

00:03:01.780 All right.

00:03:02.360 Well, Jeremy was going to tell all y'all that the big guest tonight is none other than Adam Carolla.

00:03:07.780 And he'll be coming up.

00:03:10.100 He'll be coming up shortly.

00:03:11.820 And he'll be taking your questions, but only if you're a subscriber.

00:03:15.560 So to get those questions in for Adam and all the guys, because let's be honest, you're over asking the God King and all the guys over there, all the questions, right?

00:03:22.100 If you want to get a question in for Adam Carolla, be sure to go over and ask, and we'll see if it happens on the air.

00:03:29.340 Thank you, Elisha Krause.

00:03:31.080 We have so much to talk about today before Adam gets here, because once he's here, I feel like we're going to be talking about culture, which will be fun.

00:03:37.620 But betwixt now and then, so much has happened since last we were together.

00:03:42.420 So much has happened since I got to work.

00:03:44.060 We have, first of all, I barely recognize you.

00:03:47.640 I thought you were a jettelgum. 1.00

00:03:50.740 Mr. Ludlum over there.

00:03:52.220 Mr. Ludlum.

00:03:52.980 Ludlum.

00:03:53.380 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:03:54.200 I did get attacked by, I didn't, I shouldn't say I got attacked.

00:03:57.740 We got attacked by a journalist, and then I attacked him right back.

00:04:01.240 Yeah.

00:04:01.900 Good and proper, I thought.

00:04:04.020 But the big story is, of course, Kamala is out of the race, so it's only a matter of time before we're all arrested.

00:04:10.240 That bus is available now.

00:04:11.460 That bus is available.

00:04:12.320 The DOC is taking over.

00:04:13.240 The bar's on the bus.

00:04:14.060 Right outside.

00:04:14.860 I think, I actually have to admit, I hate to do this, I only do this once every ten years.

00:04:19.680 I got Kamala Harris completely wrong.

00:04:21.520 Everyone did.

00:04:22.060 Everyone did.

00:04:22.880 I thought on paper, she was such a good candidate, and then she opened her mouth and cackled and talked about smoking blunts with Snoop Dogg, and she completely collapsed. 1.00

00:04:31.420 I'm going to miss that laugh, aren't you?

00:04:33.100 I mean, it was so charming.

00:04:34.280 It haunts my nightmares.

00:04:35.700 That's exactly, I mean.

00:04:36.860 Listen, before you get too reminiscent about the heady days of yesteryear when you could hear that cackling laugh, Hillary might get back in the race. 0.99

00:04:46.840 I mean, people were asking what she was going to do next, and it's like, well, I thought Joaquin Phoenix was only signed for one film.

00:04:51.460 I think that, and also we have like the black version of every single superhero movie now.

00:04:56.300 Absolutely.

00:04:56.520 And female, right? 0.97

00:04:57.940 I mean, it's like, we have black female Bond, right, who's coming, apparently. 1.00

00:05:00.980 So why not black female Joker? 1.00

00:05:01.880 I think if they want a black female, they should get Justin Trudeau. 1.00

00:05:06.980 It's two-faced. 0.97

00:05:08.120 It's real two-faced.

00:05:09.280 I have to say, yes, we all got Kamala wrong.

00:05:13.000 I enjoyed having her in the race. 0.66

00:05:15.740 The reason is because her campaign manager on Twitter, at least once a week, would say, and he was not joking, would say who they were going to arrest.

00:05:25.600 Yeah, that's right, and what they were going to ban.

00:05:27.640 And what they were going to ban.

00:05:28.580 Like, full on, you know, when Kamala Harris is in the White House, people who drink whiskey and smoke cigars will be outlawed. 1.00

00:05:37.040 Wait a second.

00:05:37.920 You know what I love, too?

00:05:39.100 On her birthday, they posted the exact same tweet that Hillary Clinton posted, a black and white photo, which when Kamala was a kid, by the way, they had color photos.

00:05:47.760 So they artificially made it black and white.

00:05:50.140 Happy birthday to this future president.

00:05:52.080 This was after Kamala Harris hired all of Hillary's ex-staff. 1.00

00:05:56.100 This is as she trotted out the campaign.

00:05:57.960 That meme is now 0 for 2.

00:05:58.780 Not 0 for 2.

00:05:59.940 It's just not a great idea.

00:06:01.100 Because Democrats believe, Kamala Harris believe, just as they believe with Stacey Abrams.

00:06:07.640 They believe that they win every race that they lose.

00:06:10.900 And so in most businesses.

00:06:12.600 Yeah.

00:06:13.160 In most, that's right, Beto.

00:06:14.240 In most businesses, like the person who lost last time, their entire team is anathema.

00:06:20.500 You don't want anything to do with that.

00:06:21.960 Like, oh, wait, you guys were the last in the league last year?

00:06:25.380 Yeah, your coaches aren't going to work again.

00:06:27.740 No one's picking your players up on waivers.

00:06:29.100 No one's picking your players up.

00:06:30.200 Those Bear Stearns guys didn't get hired by Goldman, right?

00:06:32.620 You're out.

00:06:33.120 Hollywood is just like this.

00:06:34.440 Hollywood is exactly like that.

00:06:35.460 Well, Elizabeth Banks just got picked up for another major film. 1.00

00:06:37.840 I said this to someone the other day.

00:06:39.680 And for the same reason, because it's all imagery.

00:06:41.560 It's all like, yeah, that looks like a presidential candidate in my imagination.

00:06:44.700 That looks like a movie star in my imagination.

00:06:46.340 That's a movie that should have worked in my imagination.

00:06:48.700 And the fact that it didn't just has no resonance whatsoever.

00:06:50.940 Yeah.

00:06:51.280 The best thing about the Kamala Harris candidacy fail has been the reaction of the media and

00:06:55.900 the other Democrats to her leaving.

00:06:57.420 Because everybody is suddenly weeping openly about this.

00:07:01.620 She had 0% support.

00:07:02.880 Like, none.

00:07:03.800 No, her immediate family didn't support her.

00:07:05.640 Like, the big surprise of her dropping out was that her husband took a picture with her.

00:07:08.280 She's like, oh, one person likes her.

00:07:09.680 That's great.

00:07:10.300 That's really exciting.

00:07:11.000 No one liked her.

00:07:12.220 Willie Brown was supportive.

00:07:14.220 Oh, that's a low point.

00:07:16.060 Very low.

00:07:16.780 Terrible.

00:07:17.480 Terrible.

00:07:17.960 But in any case, the best person on all of this has been Cory Booker.

00:07:22.040 Because Cory Booker has been putting out an email.

00:07:23.900 Somebody signed me up.

00:07:24.620 It's pretty great.

00:07:25.500 See, here's the thing.

00:07:26.240 When people know you online and they start signing you up for, like, all of the things

00:07:29.500 they think you will hate.

00:07:30.440 Right?

00:07:30.620 So my typical account, because it's public, will receive emails from Planned Parenthood and

00:07:34.780 the campaigns for Warren and Booker.

00:07:36.260 And the ones from Warren and Booker are actually really amusing.

00:07:38.540 So the ones from Booker, every six hours since she's dropped out, I'm not kidding, every

00:07:42.680 six hours there's been an email from Cory Booker in my inbox that says, Dear Ben, the stage

00:07:47.760 is completely white now.

00:07:49.440 We need to get me on that stage to prove that we are a diverse party.

00:07:53.340 And I think to myself, this is amazing.

00:07:54.940 Because now, they're calling themselves racist.

00:07:57.160 It's amazing.

00:07:58.140 Like, every editorial, Charles Blow did one in the New York Times today.

00:08:01.160 It was on MSNBC, on CNN.

00:08:03.260 NBC did a full editorial on this whole thing.

00:08:05.640 It's so hard for a black woman.

00:08:06.920 I'm like, okay, first of all, if Michelle Obama jumped in tomorrow, she'd win the race

00:08:09.660 by 40 points, both the general and the primaries.

00:08:13.240 Also, I love the idea that Americans are not willing to vote for a black president. 0.97

00:08:16.540 It's like Barack Obama just never existed. 0.96

00:08:18.060 Trump erased him from existence like Thanos.

00:08:19.960 It's like he's just gone.

00:08:20.740 It's not implied in their philosophy.

00:08:22.020 They yell at us because we're the enemy.

00:08:24.360 But it's always implied in their philosophy that all of America is racist.

00:08:27.900 So really, if you're standing next to them, they're only yelling at us now.

00:08:31.860 The minute they're done with us, they'll turn to you and come after you.

00:08:34.600 But there's also a huge oversight here, which is, isn't Elizabeth Warren still in the race? 0.83

00:08:39.180 You know, you make a great point.

00:08:40.660 I was going to mention Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang, but Elizabeth Warren is still in the race. 0.84

00:08:46.020 It's actually true.

00:08:46.800 They factually got it wrong, except they've been trying to ignore those two candidates

00:08:51.740 as best they can and kick them off the stage.

00:08:54.000 But Elizabeth Warren only became white in the Democrat narrative. 0.99

00:09:00.100 She only became white when Kamala Harris got out of the race. 1.00

00:09:02.360 So now I get to tell you about Warren's emails.

00:09:04.500 So she's been sending me emails, too.

00:09:05.920 And it's so nice.

00:09:07.400 So she sends me emails and the emails say things like,

00:09:09.500 Dear Ben, do you remember when Kirsten Gillibrand and Kamala Harris were forced from the race

00:09:14.740 after winning a combined 11.5 million votes in their Senate races,

00:09:18.060 only so billionaires like Michael Bloomberg and Tom Steyer could be in?

00:09:21.520 And I thought to myself, has anyone mentioned Kirsten Gillibrand for months?

00:09:24.820 Was she a human being?

00:09:26.280 Also, isn't Amy Klobuchar on the stage? 0.97

00:09:28.880 And isn't Tulsi Gabbard still in?

00:09:30.620 And aren't you there?

00:09:32.000 And Tom Steyer, like they keep doing, it's really funny because now they're,

00:09:34.540 there are all these articles about Tom Steyer.

00:09:38.140 There are all these articles about Tom Steyer is still in the race.

00:09:40.820 Why hasn't he been forced from the race? 1.00

00:09:42.380 Because no one forced Kamala Harris from the race.

00:09:44.500 She dropped out.

00:09:45.600 It's voluntary.

00:09:46.600 She could have stuck around. 1.00

00:09:47.840 But she realized she would have gotten her ass kicked in California. 1.00

00:09:49.820 I thought it was when she got out. 0.99

00:09:51.020 She was afraid that she was going to tank in the early states.

00:09:53.940 She'd have to stick around until California.

00:09:55.300 She'd finish fourth in California.

00:09:56.880 And it would have been humiliating if she drops out now.

00:09:58.540 Then maybe she's got a cabinet position. 0.99

00:09:59.660 She hasn't got Hillary Clinton's taste for humiliation. 1.00

00:10:03.080 Just utter shamelessness. 0.57

00:10:05.040 Did you see Hillary on Howard Stern?

00:10:06.640 She could actually get back in the race.

00:10:08.080 You know, like, I'm straight.

00:10:09.440 I want to talk about Hillary.

00:10:10.640 I want to talk about Hillary on Howard Stern.

00:10:12.300 And in particular, I want to talk about my Christmas wish that Hillary actually gets in the,

00:10:16.940 I'm just hoping against hope, you guys.

00:10:19.060 I know she keeps saying people are urging her to get in the race.

00:10:21.620 It's all me.

00:10:23.660 Trump is sending her pictures.

00:10:25.080 If there is a Hillary for president website out there, please go and give.

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00:12:50.580 Kamala Harris, the one thing about this, though, that I think we should talk about,

00:12:53.780 the fact that you and I especially, I think we were afraid of her when she got in the race.

00:12:57.880 We thought this is a dangerous candidate.

00:12:59.760 And the thing is, the people are not, like, all wise that they will delve into every policy decision.

00:13:06.300 But they are smarter than imagery.

00:13:08.700 And the imagery helps you first out of the gate.

00:13:11.360 But we have to remember.

00:13:12.700 They know what they don't like.

00:13:13.400 Like, but the press, yes, they know what they don't like.

00:13:16.160 And they can, just like everybody, you can look at a person and think, like, something shifty about, you know, like, no, there's something shifty about this guy.

00:13:22.020 You can just see, like, watch your wallet.

00:13:23.160 And I think that people can see these things and we don't trust them to see them.

00:13:26.580 And even Democrats can see them.

00:13:28.420 I mean.

00:13:28.540 Also, the media turned on her early.

00:13:30.280 They turned on her in support.

00:13:31.240 But they also built her up.

00:13:32.280 Yeah, but they built her up. 1.00

00:13:33.620 And then she got up there and they went, oh, my God, this woman will lock us up. 1.00

00:13:38.560 Maybe we have gone too.

00:13:39.840 We're better under Trump.

00:13:40.820 People are saying that it was Tulsi who took her out.

00:13:42.140 And that's not true.

00:13:42.760 If you look at the polls, she took herself out, right?

00:13:44.640 She leapt up to the top of the polls.

00:13:46.160 And then immediately she started to recede because she's the Hindenburg. 0.97

00:13:48.620 And people saw that she was flip-flopping like a fish on Medicare for all. 0.99

00:13:51.720 And even her initial attack on Joe Biden about forced busing was completely dishonest because no one supports forced busing, especially not Kamala Harris.

00:13:58.360 It was like another era.

00:14:00.620 Even in the 1970s, nobody supported forced busing.

00:14:02.520 It was deeply unpopular even in the 1970s because who the hell wants to put your kid on a bus and bus them an hour to a school where they know nobody?

00:14:08.660 It created white flight.

00:14:09.800 The entire white flight problem, at least a huge percentage of it, was created by attempts to forced bus. 1.00

00:14:14.460 And so, you know, it was an idiotic attempt. 1.00

00:14:16.920 She was relegated in her final days. 1.00

00:14:18.820 I love talking about the final days of Kamala Harris.

00:14:20.580 She was relegated in her final days to being on stage, chiding Elizabeth Warren for not calling on Twitter to ban Donald Trump.

00:14:27.560 And I was like, this is how low you've sunk.

00:14:29.840 But it was kind of amazing because the fact is, until she dropped out, I thought there might be a shot that she would be a second look candidate.

00:14:36.680 It would be like second look at Kamala Harris. 0.93

00:14:37.980 The reason being because this feels a lot like 2012 for the Republicans, where it was like everybody early on, they were like, oh, Mitt Romney, that guy's probably pretty good.

00:14:45.360 And they looked at him and they went, uh.

00:14:47.360 And then they looked at him like, maybe Newt Gingrich.

00:14:49.340 Well, maybe Rick Sanchez.

00:14:51.560 Michelle Bachman.

00:14:52.660 Herman Cain.

00:14:53.900 And they literally went through like a thousand people.

00:14:56.300 And then finally it came back around like, oh, I guess Romney's still here.

00:14:58.900 OK, fine.

00:14:59.800 Well, that's Joe Biden circa 2020, right?

00:15:02.120 I mean, like all along, Biden has been the guy where he was expected to win and he's never dropped below 25 percent in the national polling.

00:15:08.180 And he's still winning by large numbers in South Carolina and throughout the South.

00:15:12.020 When you wonder why they're trying to impeach Donald Trump, you only have to look at Joe Biden and tell yourself, this is their front.

00:15:17.300 Although today was his best day.

00:15:18.460 Yeah, it was a good day.

00:15:19.080 OK, that was great.

00:15:20.300 OK, come on.

00:15:21.300 Let's be real.

00:15:22.240 The guy's eyes explode, you know.

00:15:23.540 But he did call that person fat.

00:15:26.180 No, no, no, no, no. 0.96

00:15:28.520 He called him fat.

00:15:29.960 Right.

00:15:30.260 And that was his name, by the way.

00:15:31.280 Yeah.

00:15:31.720 Johnny Fack.

00:15:32.640 Johnny Fack.

00:15:33.520 What I have to say, I was totally amused for people who missed it.

00:15:36.100 Today, Joe Biden was doing a rally.

00:15:38.260 It wasn't a rally.

00:15:38.800 It was like a Q&A in Iowa.

00:15:40.520 And some portly fellow who was an Elizabeth Warren supporter, apparently, gets up and starts asking about Hunter Biden.

00:15:45.620 And Joe gets visibly perturbed and gets very angry and says because the guy says that he saw it on the TV. 0.99

00:15:50.460 Called him a damn liar. 1.00

00:15:50.880 Right. 1.00

00:15:51.060 He says, you're a damn liar. 1.00

00:15:52.040 And the guy says, well, I saw it on the TV. 1.00

00:15:53.460 He says, well, I'm not sedentary.

00:15:54.840 You know, I'll get out there and I'll exercise.

00:15:57.000 And he's like, well, what?

00:15:58.000 Like, this is a non-sequitur.

00:15:59.240 OK.

00:15:59.680 And he's like, well, I'll do a pushup contest with you.

00:16:01.420 I'll do an IQ contest with you. 0.81

00:16:02.680 He calls him. 0.97

00:16:03.060 And then and then he literally says to him, look, fat.

00:16:06.820 And and I thought to myself, he could be president.

00:16:10.480 Because it was like everybody online on Twitter.

00:16:12.480 They're like, this is a bad moment for Joe Biden.

00:16:14.280 I was like, Donald Trump is the president of the United States.

00:16:17.360 If Joe Biden said to the guy, I'm going to come over there and grab you by the. 0.94

00:16:20.800 He'd be president tomorrow.

00:16:22.120 You forget, you forget everybody who imitates Donald Trump dies.

00:16:24.900 But that's not an imitation.

00:16:25.760 Joe Biden is like, but Joe Biden is Joe Biden.

00:16:27.100 You know what?

00:16:27.460 It's not it's not.

00:16:28.600 Yeah, I don't think it was him.

00:16:29.580 You know, I had to think when I saw that 77 year old Joe Biden up there calling that

00:16:34.020 guy fat, challenging. 0.68

00:16:35.180 I just thought, what the hell did this guy do to corn pop? 0.97

00:16:40.200 Jane.

00:16:40.920 I can't even imagine what this guy did.

00:16:43.240 No, I don't know.

00:16:44.180 I think Joe Biden, though, the fact that the guy is a front runner really tells us something

00:16:48.180 about the Democratic.

00:16:48.880 Well, I agree.

00:16:50.200 But here's my question.

00:16:51.260 Dick Morris today wrote a piece about I said we'd talk about Hillary getting in here. 0.93

00:16:55.780 Here it is.

00:16:56.380 OK.

00:16:56.780 Dick Morris writes a piece today.

00:16:58.200 Author of Hillary versus Condi.

00:17:00.020 Yes, exactly.

00:17:00.900 2004.

00:17:01.520 I was going to say I was going to say Dick Morris is I actually like Dick Morris is a

00:17:04.660 nice guy.

00:17:05.080 But he has been wrong about every single thing.

00:17:07.460 All of them.

00:17:07.860 But sometimes he's wrong about things.

00:17:09.860 And for and for two or three minutes, I think, I wonder if Dick Morris is right.

00:17:12.960 But then today in his article about Hillary getting into the race and he says, you know,

00:17:16.680 her every thought is fixed upon it, he says, but she's going to wait until Biden gets out.

00:17:21.520 He's clearly the next person to drop.

00:17:23.600 I thought, on what planet is Joe Biden going to drop?

00:17:26.440 Yeah.

00:17:26.760 Never.

00:17:27.320 Never.

00:17:27.960 He's dead already.

00:17:28.880 He can't even.

00:17:31.260 It's not even a possibility.

00:17:32.580 Listen, Pat.

00:17:33.640 Yeah.

00:17:33.960 His whole philosophy is that he's going to win the later states, which is always a bad

00:17:37.820 philosophy.

00:17:38.180 Well, no, his philosophy is that Buttigieg or Sanders, they'll split some of the early

00:17:43.020 states.

00:17:43.420 Yeah.

00:17:43.760 It's not that late.

00:17:44.860 I mean, South Carolina is third up.

00:17:46.120 South Carolina is third up.

00:17:46.980 Plus Nevada.

00:17:47.440 He's leading in both.

00:17:48.140 Right.

00:17:48.600 Right.

00:17:48.800 And then you get a super Tuesday.

00:17:50.300 And all he has to do is clear.

00:17:51.300 And by the way, we're joking here.

00:17:53.340 It's something like 75 to 85.

00:17:55.460 A lot of a large percentage of the Democrat primary voters are happy with their lineup.

00:18:00.800 Right.

00:18:01.260 And by the way, this is the thing that people are ignoring about the whole Kamala Harris dropout.

00:18:04.520 And this is what's so amusing.

00:18:05.380 People are like, oh, this just shows the systemic racism of American society.

00:18:08.780 It's even bled down to the Democratic Party.

00:18:11.500 Kamala Harris had zero percent black support.

00:18:14.680 Zero.

00:18:15.460 Like, no one cared about her.

00:18:16.760 Cory Booker has zero percent black support. 0.53

00:18:18.460 You know who has all the black support? 0.98

00:18:19.340 Joe Biden.

00:18:20.240 Yeah.

00:18:20.480 Which, by the way, speaks pretty well, I would say, honestly, of black voters in the Democratic

00:18:24.500 Party who aren't at least just saying, oh, look, a black guy, I'm going to vote for him.

00:18:27.500 Right. 0.92

00:18:27.680 Right.

00:18:27.840 Which was the way.

00:18:28.780 They tried that once.

00:18:29.500 It didn't work out.

00:18:29.980 Well, that's it.

00:18:30.600 But that's how the media portrays black voters is, OK, here's a black guy. 0.97

00:18:34.340 Black people vote for that black guy. 0.98

00:18:35.380 Kamala Harris. 0.98

00:18:36.080 That is how the media thinks.

00:18:37.160 Right.

00:18:37.300 So we have to be careful.

00:18:38.120 The voters are actually smarter than that.

00:18:40.380 Right.

00:18:41.480 Sorry, I didn't mean to.

00:18:42.140 No, I do.

00:18:42.820 I do think you're absolutely right.

00:18:45.100 I think that the media are thinking in this very shallow sort of racial way.

00:18:50.200 But what we're all underestimating is the brilliance of Joe Biden's strategy here.

00:18:53.980 Because it was the same strategy as Rudy Giuliani.

00:18:56.760 I can do that.

00:18:57.300 And, you know, Giuliani got reelected two or three times.

00:19:00.640 He's president now.

00:19:01.540 But to Ben's point, I don't think it's fair to say that that's quite what Biden is doing.

00:19:05.380 It's one thing.

00:19:06.020 Like, Giuliani legitimately said he wasn't going to even compete until Florida.

00:19:10.160 So he didn't just say, I'm not going to win Iowa.

00:19:12.340 No, you're right.

00:19:12.780 You're right about that.

00:19:13.380 It is also important to note that there's a vast difference between the late state strategies of a party that is largely homogenous in racial terms, meaning the Republican Party of Florida looks a lot like the Republican Party of New Hampshire or Iowa, or at least a lot more.

00:19:25.860 Right.

00:19:25.980 The Democratic Party of South Carolina looks nothing like the Democratic Party of Iowa.

00:19:29.320 But it's also the person who wins Iowa rarely wins the president.

00:19:33.000 Well, and this is the reason, because the Democratic Party in South Carolina, the voting base in South Carolina in the Democratic primary is two thirds black.

00:19:39.160 The voting base in Iowa in the Democratic primary is 100 percent, 197 percent white, including Elizabeth Warren.

00:19:45.800 There was a time when you thought Biden was an actual threat to Trump.

00:19:49.240 Do you actually think that he could be Trump?

00:19:50.880 Yes.

00:19:51.300 And the reason the reason still is because Donald Trump makes lots of mistakes.

00:19:56.460 I've always said that the I've always said that the election is going to rest on who is this referendum upon?

00:20:01.840 Is this a referendum on Trump or is it a referendum on the Democrat?

00:20:04.820 If it were Warren, Buttigieg, Sanders.

00:20:09.160 Then Kamala Harris.

00:20:10.500 Then the radicalism of the Democrat would be enough to drive a lot of moderate voters to go.

00:20:14.600 I don't like this Trump guy very much. 1.00

00:20:15.700 He seems like kind of a jerk, but the economy is good. 0.99

00:20:17.600 He's not screwing up my life. 1.00

00:20:19.200 All right.

00:20:19.420 I guess I have to pull the lever for that guy.

00:20:21.140 But Joe Biden has 100 percent name recognition.

00:20:23.880 Everybody thinks what they think about him. 0.92

00:20:25.200 He's basically a dead guy.

00:20:26.520 And a dead person is not a bad person to run against Trump because it's not a referendum on the dead guy. 0.99

00:20:30.020 You know, the dead guy's dead.

00:20:30.900 And I don't like that.

00:20:32.300 I have a question.

00:20:33.100 Do you feel like you as a conservative?

00:20:34.920 Do you feel anywhere near as threatened by Joe Biden as president as you do by Elizabeth Warren or any of the other Democrats?

00:20:42.540 You have to ask, when was the last time?

00:20:45.460 Because to your point, he's already a dead guy.

00:20:47.720 When was the last time the more boring candidate won?

00:20:51.140 Yeah, that's always the more charismatic candidate.

00:20:53.260 But we talk about how Trump is unique in many ways.

00:20:59.220 One of the ways in which he's unique is that what's interesting about him is alienating to a particular demographic.

00:21:05.000 And that particular demographic, married suburban women, I think will look back with a certain fondness on the Obama era.

00:21:13.480 Because during the Obama era, we may have been having policy losses and we may have been having economic losses.

00:21:17.620 We don't remember those because they weren't that painful.

00:21:20.920 But we do remember that things just weren't crazy.

00:21:23.520 And Joe Biden just kind of represents this return to a time when that nice young man was president and everybody was kind of friendly and everybody kind of got along.

00:21:32.160 And bad people sat down.

00:21:33.180 Bad people sat down.

00:21:34.080 But that's, I'm not saying Biden must win.

00:21:37.260 No, this is right.

00:21:37.700 But this is why Biden is most likely to win of anybody that the Democrats thought about running.

00:21:41.720 Always, always the strongest Democratic pitch was the 1920 Warren G. Harding return to normalcy campaign.

00:21:45.660 That was always the strongest Democratic pitch because the only thing they've been successful in doing is keeping the feeling, this roiling feeling of upset and chaos going.

00:21:53.580 That's the only thing the Democrats have been good at doing for the last several years.

00:21:56.180 I mean, they've not been able to stop Trump's agenda.

00:21:57.840 He's been able to get large swaths of it through.

00:21:59.840 But they have been able to make people feel deeply uncomfortable with each other.

00:22:03.200 Well, because they have the entire press.

00:22:04.820 No, right.

00:22:05.360 Again, I agree with all of that.

00:22:06.580 I'm not saying that's Trump's fault.

00:22:07.840 I think that the Democrats, I mean, I think it's partially Trump's fault.

00:22:10.040 Well, of course.

00:22:10.840 No, Trump is an eruptive personality.

00:22:12.260 Trump is Trump, right?

00:22:13.160 He's a volcano, right?

00:22:14.400 And they cover the volcano.

00:22:16.200 But they also exacerbate the effect of the volcano.

00:22:18.280 I will say, I know this is the most unpopular opinion I have, but I will say that Trump has been toning it down.

00:22:24.300 If you watch what he's doing, he is catching on.

00:22:26.980 You know, you think that Trump never changes, but he always changes.

00:22:29.680 He's always playing the game.

00:22:30.580 Yeah, this is your most unpopular opinion.

00:22:31.620 Yeah, it's my most unpopular opinion.

00:22:32.780 It's a bad opinion.

00:22:34.160 It's wrong.

00:22:34.760 But it's true.

00:22:35.640 No, he's just overseas, Drew.

00:22:37.800 He's just not here.

00:22:38.700 At NATO, he's, like, walking around slapping people, like Laurel and Hardy.

00:22:42.820 Are you going to hit on Trump for slapping Europeans?

00:22:45.680 Come on. 0.84

00:22:47.060 But did you see Biden's ad?

00:22:48.320 Like, Biden ran that ad, right?

00:22:49.480 I was like, the Europeans don't respect Donald Trump.

00:22:52.180 And I thought, there's a, there's a, I was like, that's going to play in Michigan.

00:22:55.760 Like, the Michigan auto workers are like, Macron doesn't love him.

00:22:58.680 That European incident actually showed Drew's point, though, which, the point is, he's in

00:23:03.900 the environment where, where Donald Trump of even a year and a half ago would have gone 1.00

00:23:09.060 on a three-hour tirade about little pencil neck Justin Trudeau, that dirtbag idiot, you 1.00

00:23:15.520 know, and instead, no, he got one line in. 1.00

00:23:18.160 He said he's two-faced.

00:23:19.380 But look, I'm representing the United States.

00:23:21.540 Maybe he doesn't like that very much.

00:23:22.940 And then he insulted Macron.

00:23:24.520 And then he, listen, I have no problem with insulting any of these people. 1.00

00:23:26.420 I think they're schmucks, but. 0.98

00:23:27.240 No, but he's not, he's not doing what he was doing before. 1.00

00:23:29.880 At least not now. 1.00

00:23:30.460 You're a crazy person. 1.00

00:23:31.440 He tweeted out a picture of himself as Rocky Valvoa last week. 1.00

00:23:34.560 That was, what are you talking about?

00:23:35.820 That was genius.

00:23:36.320 That was genius.

00:23:37.180 Genius?

00:23:37.440 Hold on.

00:23:37.880 I was amused.

00:23:39.080 Hold on.

00:23:39.520 Hold on.

00:23:39.780 Was it like Lincoln writing the Gettysburg Address to him?

00:23:42.460 Or was it like, was it like the farewell address to George Washington?

00:23:45.300 Okay.

00:23:45.600 Can we put it on like a list here?

00:23:46.960 I can't put it on some sort of.

00:23:47.960 All right.

00:23:48.480 All right.

00:23:48.660 I want some sort of context for genius.

00:23:50.920 When we say.

00:23:51.700 I didn't mean genius like the people in Hong Kong are holding up respect.

00:23:52.920 Like the theory of relativity or like the, or like string theory genius.

00:23:56.480 Like, where are we going here with this, Drew?

00:23:57.720 When we say that the president has made changes recently, you can't kick it back to a week

00:24:02.820 ago.

00:24:04.640 That's how Trump lives.

00:24:06.020 We live in Trump's America.

00:24:07.100 No, no, no.

00:24:07.560 I want to hear from some of our DailyWire.com subscribers to get in on this conversation.

00:24:11.980 Alicia.

00:24:12.820 All right.

00:24:13.200 I mean, man, how many pina coladas has Ben had?

00:24:15.480 Because he sounds real excited tonight.

00:24:17.960 I'm ready to get the hell out of here, Alicia.

00:24:20.300 All right.

00:24:21.580 So this question comes from a great DailyWire subscriber.

00:24:24.480 He wants to know, quote, it seems independence and minority voters have been turning in Trump's

00:24:29.440 favor, according to some recent polls over the last couple of months.

00:24:32.560 But other than the backlash to the impeachment hearing and what Democrats are doing there,

00:24:35.840 is there something else that you can see that is causing that shift?

00:24:38.380 Yes.

00:24:38.800 He's giving them jobs.

00:24:40.140 He's doing a good job for minority people.

00:24:42.240 He is, you know, like all the talk.

00:24:45.400 I mean, that last poll that said that he had 33 to 34 percent among blacks, I think that

00:24:50.760 poll is right.

00:24:51.240 And I think that I'm surprised.

00:24:53.440 It's not just the poll.

00:24:54.540 If you're right, then Republicans will never lose again.

00:24:58.020 I mean, all Republicans have to do is win about 12 percent of the black vote and they never

00:25:01.120 lose an election.

00:25:01.440 I mean, listen, there's something there's something about dinner on the table that has a very,

00:25:05.400 very solid effect on people.

00:25:07.400 You can sit there and say, this guy, you can watch on TV, on CNN, they bring on college

00:25:11.600 professors.

00:25:12.140 They say, yes, but the things he says, people are sitting there home going, you know, I

00:25:15.620 like having this dinner on the table.

00:25:17.040 I like going to work in the morning, having my wife and kids respect me.

00:25:20.400 You know, this is a good thing.

00:25:21.820 And it's not just one poll.

00:25:22.540 You know, they catch on.

00:25:23.160 It's not just the Emerson poll.

00:25:24.340 There was the NPR-Marist poll.

00:25:25.740 There was obviously Rasmussen.

00:25:27.280 Plus, I've been saying this for two years.

00:25:28.980 Right.

00:25:29.340 But there's, I mean, to be fair, at least, well, we're going to have to see how the polls bear out because

00:25:32.920 there is some pretty mixed polling data, right?

00:25:34.260 Gallup suggests that he's basically exactly where he always was.

00:25:36.780 Yeah.

00:25:37.200 But I hope that you guys are right.

00:25:39.160 Yeah.

00:25:39.760 Alicia.

00:25:40.740 Doing better than Buttigieg, right?

00:25:43.580 All right.

00:25:44.440 With Kamala dropping out of the race this week, who do you think will be the next 2020 Democratic

00:25:49.040 candidate to be next out?

00:25:50.200 Good question.

00:25:51.940 I think Warren, Sanders, Buttigieg, and Biden certainly go all the way to Iowa.

00:25:59.660 What's the incentive for people to get out at this point?

00:26:02.340 I guess that's my question.

00:26:03.840 I think Klobuchar is the next one to get out, probably.

00:26:06.060 But do you think anyone gets out before Iowa?

00:26:09.440 Maybe Klobuchar, if she doesn't start to pick up any ground.

00:26:11.960 She is making some modest headway, isn't she?

00:26:13.940 She is in New Hampshire.

00:26:14.700 New Hampshire.

00:26:15.280 She's starting to poll a little bit.

00:26:16.260 There's no world where Tulsi gets out.

00:26:17.720 There's no world where Yang gets out.

00:26:19.300 Right.

00:26:19.700 The one that I hope doesn't get out, he should get out, though I hope he doesn't for entertainment

00:26:25.000 value, is Julian Castro, my favorite.

00:26:27.860 The great defender of abortion rights for men.

00:26:30.000 I think he'll stick in it.

00:26:32.260 What do you think wants to run his campaign? 0.99

00:26:33.340 If I don't have my abortion rights.

00:26:34.520 If I don't have my abortion rights. 0.98

00:26:35.900 It might be, but I mean, Booker has been, Booker might do it just so he can whine and bitch

00:26:40.160 about how he's not in the race anymore. 0.99

00:26:41.840 I mean, he's a very whiny human being. 0.98

00:26:44.000 He's Mr. Potato Head. 0.98

00:26:45.480 He goes around, he takes out the angry eyes.

00:26:47.000 I have to tell you, I was talking not that long ago, a while back, I mean, a couple months

00:26:52.920 ago, to a Booker guy, a guy who was working for Booker, and I said, you know he's never

00:26:57.680 going to be president, right?

00:26:58.980 And his face fell.

00:27:00.440 And I thought, I'm delivering the news?

00:27:03.340 This is bad.

00:27:04.600 You know, you should know that.

00:27:06.000 Political radiologist, Andrew Klayman.

00:27:09.280 Fantastic.

00:27:09.740 Sorry.

00:27:11.340 Yeah, exactly.

00:27:12.440 Alicia.

00:27:13.060 All right, so follow-up to that is, of the three people that were actually supporting

00:27:16.640 Kamala, you know, other than her mom and dad, which candidate do you see all of her supporters 0.88

00:27:21.340 going to and why?

00:27:25.000 Next question, Alicia.

00:27:26.640 How would we know when they went?

00:27:29.760 Really?

00:27:30.340 Okay.

00:27:30.540 That sample is too small to see.

00:27:32.660 There's no way to tell.

00:27:34.000 I mean, who will her husband support?

00:27:36.480 We'll have to ask him.

00:27:37.520 We're not going to see any change in the polls.

00:27:39.260 No.

00:27:40.020 Booker is desperately hoping that there will be a,

00:27:41.680 oh my God, there's only one black guy left in the race.

00:27:43.640 What do we do? 0.99

00:27:44.380 Maybe we'll go to that black guy. 1.00

00:27:45.700 And everybody's like, Cory Booker.

00:27:47.780 Cory McBooker.

00:27:49.500 Yeah, man.

00:27:50.380 No way. 0.94

00:27:51.200 Just to kick Kamala while she's down, 1.00

00:27:53.700 it is worth pointing out here that people are saying she had 3.5% when she got out.

00:27:58.320 That's not true.

00:27:58.960 That was outdated.

00:28:00.020 The most recent poll, as she got out, put her at 2%.

00:28:03.560 She was down two points.

00:28:04.880 Put Mike Bloomberg at 6%.

00:28:06.460 That was a Harris poll.

00:28:07.760 Mike Bloomberg had three times the support of Kamala Harris.

00:28:10.380 And no one is voting for him.

00:28:11.680 This is actually a hopeful thing that I'm kind of feeling, I know, it's weird,

00:28:15.920 for the Democratic Party, is that the candidates who are doing well 0.73

00:28:19.140 are the ones who are the least crazy.

00:28:20.740 Yes. 0.97

00:28:21.140 Okay, that doesn't mean they're not crazy. 0.99

00:28:22.140 They're crazy. 0.99

00:28:22.680 But they're the least crazy. 1.00

00:28:23.760 Bernie's.

00:28:24.040 Which is, which is, no, but if you look at the people who are gaining momentum,

00:28:27.940 it's Buttigieg, right, who's portraying himself as not crazy. 0.88

00:28:29.900 He's actually a very nasty human being, which you've seen as soon as the mask slips. 0.99

00:28:33.180 And a complete cynic. 0.97

00:28:34.000 And a real cynic, and, you know, but the old Pete Buttigieg, the one who sort of is,

00:28:39.400 the one who, you know, is out there with Salvation Army and says he'll eat at Chick-fil-A

00:28:42.700 and pretends that he's a moderate.

00:28:44.760 Like, that guy is a lot less bad for the country than Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders.

00:28:49.260 This isn't a point.

00:28:49.780 Biden, and also Bloomberg, right?

00:28:51.180 Bloomberg, who, we all look at each other and we're like, who the hell supports Michael Bloomberg?

00:28:54.600 His first poll from Hill Harris, he's at 6%.

00:28:57.040 And he's leapfrogging everybody.

00:28:58.340 He did a good, I don't like the guy.

00:28:59.540 He did a good job in New York.

00:29:00.500 Well, he's maintaining Giuliani's success.

00:29:03.920 The crime rates continued to drop.

00:29:05.140 Economic growth was maintained under Bloomberg.

00:29:07.380 Mount Madu was outlawed.

00:29:08.700 But this is an important point.

00:29:09.860 Chuck Todd was on TV, on MSNBC, which is hard to tell the difference between NBC and MSNBC.

00:29:15.840 He was on saying, you know, but they really, Democrats should really be doing,

00:29:19.340 they should be telling the candidates to stop campaigning so people can pay attention

00:29:24.100 to this riveting impeachment thing.

00:29:26.660 And I thought, like, these guys are living in a world that simply doesn't exist.

00:29:32.040 And the thing is, the voters aren't.

00:29:33.480 The voters live in a world that doesn't exist.

00:29:34.600 The voters do not care to wits about this impeachment nonsense.

00:29:36.720 Who does?

00:29:36.920 Not to wits, because this is all baked in.

00:29:39.380 Every single iota of it is baked in.

00:29:41.540 It's a sham.

00:29:42.920 It's annoying.

00:29:43.700 Impeachment is next up on the docket, because I have a theory, and also I have a brainstorm

00:29:47.720 session that I think I want us all participate in, and I think that the audience will find

00:29:52.300 it amusing.

00:29:53.140 But first, as Ben likes to say, if you want to send a Christmas card to the Daily Wire,

00:29:56.760 if you want to tell us we're doing a good job, wish us a happy new year, or tell us to

00:29:59.540 go pound sand, you're going to need a stamp.

00:30:03.280 And you're not going to want to drag down to the local post office and buy a book of stamps.

00:30:10.680 And they don't sell them at my ATM anymore.

00:30:12.800 They know what you're going to have to do is go down to stamps.com.

00:30:15.940 Benjamin.

00:30:16.480 One of the reasons that stamps.com is so fantastic is because as Christmas approaches, and Hanukkah,

00:30:21.820 by the way, and Kwanzaa, and all the other holidays, then one of the things that you're

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00:30:27.000 bringing all of these packages with you in the trunk of your car, they're going to get

00:30:29.680 broken, it's going to be annoying, and then you're going to get a parking ticket, which

00:30:32.480 is what happened last time I was at the post office.

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00:31:37.740 So I want to talk about impeachment.

00:31:39.400 All right.

00:31:39.720 Nancy Pelosi said today that they will move forward with impeachment.

00:31:42.880 Unpredictable.

00:31:43.280 Only Andrew Klavan thought that they wouldn't?

00:31:46.820 No, no. I didn't think they wouldn't. I thought there was a possibility. I still think there's

00:31:49.260 a possibility they won't actually get away with it. Yeah.

00:31:51.960 Do you really? 1.00

00:31:52.360 You're crazy. 1.00

00:31:52.920 Small. 1.00

00:31:53.400 You know, but...

00:31:54.260 From the man who said that Donald Trump's Rocky Balboa picture was genius.

00:31:57.760 Comes his take on impeachment.

00:31:59.440 That was a real photo, by the way.

00:32:01.520 Yeah.

00:32:01.680 That was not a photo.

00:32:03.560 The thing I want to talk about is what should the Republican strategy be when this goes to

00:32:10.140 trial in the Senate. Because there's... What I've been reading as far as what McConnell

00:32:14.400 and what the Trump administration are thinking, I think they are missing it by a mile.

00:32:20.480 I'm horrified that they're going to run this the way that Trump and McConnell want to and

00:32:25.740 blow the greatest political opportunity of a lifetime. So they're talking about we need

00:32:29.760 to wrap... Trump wants to wrap it up in two weeks.

00:32:32.120 Oh, that's a mistake.

00:32:32.780 Have it be super short.

00:32:33.520 Get it out of the way.

00:32:34.420 No, no, no.

00:32:34.880 No.

00:32:35.320 I'm for Cocaine Mitch's House of Horrors.

00:32:36.940 They should drag... This is my thing. They should drag this thing on until election day. 0.98

00:32:43.840 Oh, my God. That's so true. Oh, my God.

00:32:45.720 I just don't know. Is there anybody in the Senate trolly and delightful enough to understand

00:32:49.940 what this opportunity is?

00:32:50.500 You know, speaking of Sly Stallone here, I think that Lindsey Graham does have a shot. 1.00

00:32:57.540 Lindsey Graham 2.0. He's been pretty trolly ever since the last years.

00:33:01.720 And Cocaine Mitch is a genius. I mean, this is...

00:33:04.660 Cocaine's good. Cocaine Mitch is a good job.

00:33:06.380 Is he good at what he's going to do?

00:33:07.340 No, this is really what I think. I think it's going to be Cocaine Mitch's House of Horrors.

00:33:11.900 They're going to go in there. They're going to call every witness.

00:33:14.300 You know, they're going to subpoena Joe Biden.

00:33:15.700 Hunter and Joe.

00:33:16.020 They're going to subpoena...

00:33:16.920 Yeah.

00:33:17.460 And remember, you know, John Roberts, who is... You know, you don't have to like him,

00:33:21.680 but he is a sort of...

00:33:23.980 He's the worst.

00:33:24.520 He's going to preside over this in a fair way.

00:33:27.220 You know, nobody's going to be able to say he's cheating.

00:33:29.780 So he's going to...

00:33:30.560 But what we're hearing from the administration is that they don't want to do this.

00:33:32.880 They want to get through this thing as quick as possible.

00:33:34.880 I cannot believe they would do that. 1.00

00:33:36.280 I can't believe they're that stupid. 1.00

00:33:37.500 I want him to subpoena Schiff. 1.00

00:33:38.580 I want him to subpoena Schiff's phone records.

00:33:40.320 I want him then to publicly release Schiff's phone records.

00:33:42.720 Absolutely. Oh, of course. Of course.

00:33:44.340 That's the whole point.

00:33:44.940 And besides, you know, this means that like Elizabeth Warren is going to have to be in the Senate. 1.00

00:33:50.440 You know, I mean, this is an amazing opportunity for them. 1.00

00:33:53.960 If they blow this, Republicans are stupid. 1.00

00:33:55.460 And the timing here is pretty interesting because when they announced the formal official impeachment inquiry, 1.00

00:34:00.700 it looked like Joe Biden was collapsing, right?

00:34:02.780 It looked like I was not going to get the nomination.

00:34:05.100 Now things look a little bit different.

00:34:07.100 Joe Biden is at the center of this whole impeachment probe.

00:34:09.620 They're going to try to get him to testify.

00:34:11.400 He's going to refuse to testify.

00:34:13.020 That's going to be a wonderful week of stories.

00:34:14.780 They're going to drag that derelict Hunter Biden.

00:34:16.940 That's going to be a great week of stories.

00:34:18.580 The Democrats have so miscalculated.

00:34:20.940 Although it could, I think maybe the calculation for McConnell is, is that if you think that Trump's best shot is basically just look at the Democrats, right?

00:34:29.160 Don't look at Trump.

00:34:29.700 Look at the Democrats.

00:34:30.540 Then getting this thing over with and just saying, okay, look at the Democratic candidates. 0.98

00:34:34.920 They're all awful.

00:34:36.040 That might be the strategy here.

00:34:37.640 Just get past this.

00:34:38.680 Put it back on Elizabeth Warren. 0.92

00:34:39.720 Put it back on Buttigieg.

00:34:40.380 We're not going to do the impeachment stuff because then the focus is on Trump and then it's all on Ukraine and all this kind of stuff.

00:34:45.240 Also, you do run a risk with Joe Biden of having the sort of high dungeon moment played up by the media where he gets up there and he says, you know, I have one son who died of brain cancer.

00:34:54.500 And I have another son who's gone out there and tried to make something of himself.

00:34:57.520 Yes, he's had difficulties.

00:34:58.400 But for you to attack my son in order to come after me in 2020, right, I mean, like that, there could be, listen, we'll all know that a lot of that's BS, but Biden can play that game.

00:35:09.320 It's a high risk, high reward strategy is what you're saying.

00:35:11.500 But then McConnell is kind of a low risk.

00:35:12.920 But then Biden bites John Roberts finger in the hole. 0.99

00:35:17.660 I mean, Joe Biden is legit corrupt. 0.98

00:35:19.820 I mean, this thing, this thing with Hunter Biden was legit corruption. 1.00

00:35:23.140 You know, I'm not going to go quite that far because what I actually think with Joe Biden is that he is a dad of a crap son. 0.99

00:35:29.900 And I think there are a lot of parents who look the other way on their crap kids. 0.99

00:35:32.840 And I think that's really what this is. 0.99

00:35:34.280 It doesn't feel like I don't I don't I don't necessarily your crap kid on Air Force Two and over to China. 0.94

00:35:40.280 A lot of people do. 0.96

00:35:40.940 Yes.

00:35:41.300 A lot of a lot of people do.

00:35:42.780 People do a lot of people prop up their kids.

00:35:45.500 Well, well, they do.

00:35:46.240 But it is corrupt when you're the vice president.

00:35:48.080 You can't do that.

00:35:48.720 And when you have a guy, you know, this was a Trump is right about this.

00:35:52.560 This was a genuinely corrupt thing to do, to have this guy, you know, basically taking a sinecure for 50, what was it, 50 grand a month?

00:35:59.560 60 grand a month.

00:36:00.400 And the question the question isn't whether Hunter Biden's corrupt. 1.00

00:36:02.600 I mean, I think we all agree that Hunter Biden's a piece of crap. 1.00

00:36:04.740 I mean, Joe Biden just found out he has a grandkid. 1.00

00:36:06.280 He didn't know he had.

00:36:06.960 I mean, like Hunter Biden, it's pretty obvious.

00:36:10.340 By a stripper, right? 1.00

00:36:11.120 Well, he was dating his late brother's, you know, and still married to his wife.

00:36:16.080 As as one of the only people who didn't vote for the president on the point of two, you guys don't have any room to make these arguments.

00:36:22.560 You have any stripper argument you have. 0.99

00:36:25.500 You know, look, game over, guys.

00:36:27.460 A trice-married lapsed Presbyterian versus Hunter Biden? 0.94

00:36:30.360 I don't know.

00:36:30.820 I still go for it.

00:36:31.500 But this is the thing about Trump.

00:36:32.500 This is the thing that gets me that the language they use about Trump is so high-pitched.

00:36:38.900 But the things they get him on, like he said something untoward to the president of Ukraine, and you go like, really?

00:36:45.080 I mean, this is perfectly obvious when you watch the law professor's testimony yesterday, where you had Jonathan Turley, who's basically he's not a Republican.

00:36:52.200 He doesn't like Trump.

00:36:53.160 And he's saying what is obviously true, which is you guys do not have the statutory requirements for bribery, for obstruction of justice.

00:37:00.100 Like there's no crime here.

00:37:01.320 Right.

00:37:01.520 And it's very obvious there's no actual crime here.

00:37:03.960 It's obvious that, like, Democrats over each year.

00:37:06.440 Democrats had a strategy that actually could have played for them.

00:37:08.640 They could have just done this whole thing, and then they could have brought forward a censure motion.

00:37:11.560 And it would have been very difficult for Republicans, because on the one hand, you don't want to look like you're tutting Trump's bad behavior.

00:37:16.780 On the other hand, if you cross Trump, he's going to tweet about you, and he's going to be mean to you.

00:37:20.480 And so that would have been a smart strategy.

00:37:21.960 They would have gotten some bipartisan support.

00:37:24.740 That's right.

00:37:25.120 They would have gotten five or ten Republicans to peel off and vote in favor of censure.

00:37:28.380 And then in the Senate, you would have gotten Romney to vote for censure, and Susan Collins to vote for censure, and a few others to vote for censure.

00:37:33.420 That's right.

00:37:34.200 But by going for impeachment, because the overreach is so dramatic, everybody now has an excuse to go, this is not impeachable.

00:37:40.460 Well, this is not even close to impeachable.

00:37:41.960 And watching them trot out a person who was too liberal for Barack Obama's Supreme Court pick to make jokes about Barron Trump in order to go after.

00:37:50.860 This guy, Noah Feldman, was that his name?

00:37:52.960 Yeah, from Harvard, yeah.

00:37:53.540 He wrote a piece praising Sharia law in the New York Times.

00:37:56.520 I read it on the air today.

00:37:58.060 There's no way around it.

00:37:59.280 It's a piece of sophistry saying that Sharia law is essentially better than Western jurisprudence.

00:38:05.740 That's who they bring in to tell us that, you know—

00:38:07.680 He also wrote a piece from the New York Times magazine in 2017 talking about all the different ways to impeach Trump in 2017.

00:38:12.200 Yes, that's right.

00:38:12.860 That's right.

00:38:13.340 So, I mean, it's perfectly obvious what they were doing here.

00:38:15.020 And so that's why when Nancy Pelosi got up there, her dentures are moving and started talking about how President Trump—we were seriously considering whether or not to do this.

00:38:23.760 But then these law professors testified, and my mind was blown.

00:38:27.500 And then James Rosen says to her, so this isn't about you hating Trump.

00:38:32.100 And she goes, as a Catholic, I'm so insulted. 0.99

00:38:34.200 Yeah, you and Mother Teresa—

00:38:35.020 You know who she reminded me of in that moment, you guys?

00:38:38.740 You know who she reminded me of?

00:38:40.940 Jesus.

00:38:41.340 Can I ask— 1.00

00:38:45.160 There's some idiot, by the way. 1.00

00:38:46.020 That is a reference. 1.00

00:38:46.720 There's some idiot on Twitter. 1.00

00:38:47.620 Yeah, Christopher Hill said that he— 1.00

00:38:49.300 So, novelist-wise, I'm looking at Nancy Pelosi, and to me, she looks like a person in a vice.

00:38:56.740 I saw that press conference, and I thought, that looks like a woman who has been pushed off a building, is falling, and it's like, how's it going?

00:39:03.040 Okay, so far, you know?

00:39:04.780 She looks like she's in a panic.

00:39:06.600 I mean, she has been pushed into something.

00:39:08.080 This is the reason—

00:39:09.140 She couldn't even string together a complete sentence.

00:39:10.620 When she was asked that question.

00:39:11.960 Yeah.

00:39:12.180 I mean, people clipped it, so you only saw the end when she was in very high dungeon. 0.78

00:39:15.540 Right.

00:39:15.800 I was like, Catholic, I'm very insulted. 1.00

00:39:17.140 By the way, one of my pet peeves, and I'm not a Christian, but as a Jew, when people do this, it drives me up a wall, and you're the Catholic in the room.

00:39:24.720 As a Catholic, I have to imagine it's sort of annoying when a person who's in favor of abortion on demand, men becoming women, and governmentally sponsored same-sex marriage, is going,

00:39:32.960 As a Catholic, I'm offended that you used the word hate with regard to me and President Trump.

00:39:37.540 And then she's like, I'm praying for Trump.

00:39:38.980 Yeah, I imagine so.

00:39:39.880 I imagine that every night, Nancy Pelosi gets down on her knees in her room and puts her hands together and prays for the health and happiness and repentance of Donald Trump. 1.00

00:39:48.640 She's praying, like, please kill this man. 0.99

00:39:49.860 No, no. 1.00

00:39:50.520 I think she does.

00:39:51.660 But the problem is that she can't get back up.

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00:41:14.220 That's right.

00:41:14.580 Michael, you had something to offer about Nancy Pelosi?

00:41:17.380 Yes, on your point.

00:41:18.640 You're the Catholic.

00:41:19.340 Go.

00:41:19.780 Go Catholic. 0.99

00:41:20.420 As a Catholic.

00:41:21.780 Nancy Pelosi should be excommunicated for her participation in abortion. 0.99

00:41:26.080 Other people have been excommunicated for this.

00:41:28.160 You saw there was a priest just the other day who withheld the Eucharist from Joe Biden.

00:41:33.740 It's an unbelievably brazen move to say this today.

00:41:37.280 She said it because she was desperate, and she said it because she knows the bishops don't have a backbone.

00:41:41.400 Yeah.

00:41:41.640 I was amazed that she went there, honestly.

00:41:44.440 And then the media just gushing about it.

00:41:46.600 Oh, she stood up for herself.

00:41:47.960 Slay, queen. 0.99

00:41:49.400 Slay. 0.87

00:41:49.620 And I thought, you know, last time there was a Catholic who was being attacked, and he was being attacked for no good reason at all.

00:41:55.280 And he got angry.

00:41:56.040 They were like, unfit.

00:41:57.520 His name was Justice Kavanaugh.

00:41:58.620 He was currently sitting on the Supreme Court. 0.58

00:41:59.880 He was slandered with allegations that he raped somebody on the basis of no evidence. 0.86

00:42:03.060 Yeah. 0.94

00:42:03.560 And he got mad about it because somebody suggested that he was a rapist.

00:42:06.940 And he got angry, and they're like, he got mad.

00:42:09.120 He shouldn't be on the Supreme Court.

00:42:10.620 Somebody said to her, do you hate Trump?

00:42:11.780 And she's like, I'm so offended as a Catholic that you would say I hate anyone.

00:42:16.540 I love everyone, including the little children, at least the ones who are born.

00:42:20.280 All the other ones could die.

00:42:21.660 But you know who Brat Kavanaugh doesn't remind me of?

00:42:26.520 That's fair.

00:42:27.740 Fair point.

00:42:28.500 I think that, Drew, you brought up the fact that she looks like she's on the ropes.

00:42:32.380 I think you're right.

00:42:33.000 I think that she knows that her legacy now is going to be that she presided over the impeachment of someone for nothing.

00:42:40.320 Right.

00:42:40.580 And that not only is it going to end in nothing, it's going to end very likely in electoral failure for them.

00:42:46.960 And not only that, they're so far over their skis.

00:42:50.120 I'm not sure that Adam Schiff hasn't broken the law pursuing this thing.

00:42:53.240 Well, that's what Jonathan Turley's point was really well taken.

00:42:55.780 That, first of all, they're setting a standard that Republicans, as we know, and Republicans will do this,

00:43:00.160 they'll go after the next president, who's a Democrat, on the same grounds, and no one will be able to say them nay.

00:43:05.840 And the fact that the press will rush to their defense, to rush to attack them, is not going to wash.

00:43:11.240 Turley was really good.

00:43:13.240 He sounded like an American, it was like this lost voice of America. 0.75

00:43:16.180 A guy saying, I don't like Trump, but that's not the point.

00:43:18.720 The point is the Constitution.

00:43:19.560 He was being a lawyer.

00:43:20.780 Right.

00:43:20.920 I mean, everybody else up there was being an activist.

00:43:22.620 And I understand that, ooh, they have magic degrees from Harvard.

00:43:25.560 Well, guess what?

00:43:26.540 I know.

00:43:27.200 Look, if we were impressed by that.

00:43:29.060 Like, come on.

00:43:29.680 And the fact is that what he was saying, that there is no statutory crime that's been committed,

00:43:34.200 and that the dead giveaway, the Democrats have nothing, really the dead giveaway,

00:43:37.740 is that in their little impeachment document that Schiff put together at a moment's notice,

00:43:41.900 there was a charge for obstruction of justice. 0.98

00:43:44.140 Now, to understand how idiotic this is, you really have to understand how subpoenas work. 0.93

00:43:47.500 So the press are under the wild misimpression that if I am a member of Congress and I subpoena you, 0.99

00:43:51.760 and you say no, you have now violated the law and obstructed justice.

00:43:54.680 This is a lie.

00:43:55.540 There's a whole third branch of government.

00:43:56.840 It's called the judiciary.

00:43:57.360 And if I subpoena you and you say no, and then I go to the judiciary and I say, no, you need to show up.

00:44:02.620 Or you go to the judiciary and you say, no, I don't want to show up.

00:44:05.060 And then the judiciary says, no, you have to show up.

00:44:07.280 And then you say, no, I'm not coming.

00:44:08.620 That's right.

00:44:08.960 That's obstruction of justice.

00:44:09.520 That was Turley's point.

00:44:10.600 Right.

00:44:10.920 That's exactly Turley's point.

00:44:12.100 He's being a lawyer. 1.00

00:44:12.860 And the fact is that the fact the Democrats even put that in the document is demonstrative of just how empty and stupid this entire thing is. 1.00

00:44:21.360 They are grasping at straws. 0.98

00:44:22.920 I mean, that quote from Schiff over the last 48 hours where he was asked, why don't you just wait to talk to, you know, like the actual people who are in the room?

00:44:29.280 Right.

00:44:29.380 So far, they've interviewed, what, eight, 12 witnesses, something like that.

00:44:31.940 Only one has ever had a conversation with Trump.

00:44:33.780 It was Gordon Sondland.

00:44:34.760 And Sondland did not provide them the evidence they needed for intent requisite to commit bribery.

00:44:38.680 In fact, what did he say?

00:44:39.760 He said, I spoke to Trump on the phone and Trump said, no quid pro quo.

00:44:43.080 I want no quid pro quo.

00:44:44.360 Right.

00:44:44.540 Exactly.

00:44:44.980 And so he didn't give them what they needed.

00:44:46.380 They could wait.

00:44:47.380 They could wait for Giuliani.

00:44:48.540 They could wait for Mulvaney.

00:44:49.280 They could wait for Bolton.

00:44:49.940 They could wait for Pence.

00:44:50.600 There are a bunch of people who talk directly to Trump about this specific issue.

00:44:54.340 They could wait for it.

00:44:55.340 And they asked Schiff about it.

00:44:56.360 And Schiff's take was, well, we can't.

00:44:57.720 We don't need to wait for the facts.

00:44:59.280 Yeah, you're damn right.

00:44:59.760 You don't need to wait for the facts because you understand you ain't got nothing.

00:45:01.980 And not only that, they know that after a certain point, the electorate is going to

00:45:05.700 say, well, you know, the election's coming up.

00:45:07.900 Why can't we decide?

00:45:09.080 But that's what the Democrats don't want.

00:45:11.020 That's the whole thing they hate about Donald Trump is that he is the guy who came in, who

00:45:14.540 was sent by basically the forgotten people to say, you know what? 0.74

00:45:18.380 Here's a guy.

00:45:19.140 You know how you've been calling us racist and you've been calling us sexist?

00:45:21.680 Here's a guy who's going to call you names.

00:45:23.020 Well, you know, there are two amazing quotes from Democratic congressmen that show you the

00:45:28.120 whole impeachment game.

00:45:29.040 One is Adam Schiff, who said, Trump poses a grave threat to the country if we wait for

00:45:34.780 all the facts to come out.

00:45:36.000 I don't have any facts, as you pointed out on Twitter today.

00:45:38.400 And the second one is from Representative Al Green, who said, I fear that if we don't

00:45:43.440 impeach this president, that he will get reelected.

00:45:45.980 And that's what they're really worried about.

00:45:47.260 By the way, can we note for a second?

00:45:48.820 I mean, it's a change of topic, but I just want to note that the fall of Elizabeth Warren

00:45:52.360 has been wonderful to watch.

00:45:53.480 Oh, yeah.

00:45:53.860 But in the last month, her poll numbers have just got like she she climbed gradually and

00:45:58.540 her descent has not been nearly as gradual.

00:46:00.600 I mean, it is a steep descent.

00:46:01.860 The more people see of Elizabeth Warren, the less they like her.

00:46:04.260 And you know what you can trace it, you trace it to that health care release, which is it

00:46:08.380 shows such a lie.

00:46:09.380 The Democrats have been saying we win on health care.

00:46:11.640 We win by releasing our radical health care plans.

00:46:13.680 Well, look at Elizabeth Warren, because she's been tanking ever since. 1.00

00:46:16.200 And it speaks to what you were saying before, is the electorate looked at that and said,

00:46:19.600 that's a bad plan.

00:46:20.580 Right.

00:46:21.040 I mean, the people who are gaining right now, like Klobuchar is gaining in New Hampshire.

00:46:25.260 Buttigieg is doing well in New Hampshire and in Iowa.

00:46:27.860 Biden is still leading nationally.

00:46:30.000 The only Bloomberg is doing OK nationally.

00:46:32.240 The only people who have a prayer at getting the nomination right now are people who are either

00:46:36.200 quasi moderate or masquerading as moderates.

00:46:38.820 Those are the only people.

00:46:39.540 And honestly, I think that's kind of hopeful for the country, because my hope was it would be

00:46:43.200 nice if we had two parties that were fighting at least in the realm of reality, like in

00:46:48.180 the general realm.

00:46:48.980 I'm not saying like on the right side of reality, but like anywhere in the in the general universe

00:46:53.060 of reality.

00:46:53.920 Like, I would rather have a Biden versus Trump election, because, again, I think that Biden

00:46:59.060 is not trying to fundamentally destroy the bases of the country in the same way as Elizabeth

00:47:03.760 Warren.

00:47:04.040 Like, I think that he'd be horrible.

00:47:05.020 I think he'd be a bad president.

00:47:06.000 I don't want to be president.

00:47:07.520 But he's not nearly as dangerous as people who are out there proclaiming loudly that they're

00:47:10.880 going to rip away.

00:47:12.100 Listen, if it's Joe Biden, you can't we're not going to be able to say this is the most

00:47:16.000 important election of our lifetime.

00:47:17.600 I agree.

00:47:17.880 Frankly, it'll be the first election of our lifetime where you won't be able to say that

00:47:21.820 it's not the most important.

00:47:22.620 We'll all still say it.

00:47:23.520 But you're right.

00:47:24.240 It won't be.

00:47:24.740 It won't be a flight 93 election, whatever else you say about Trump, aside from his

00:47:30.120 affect, aside from the way the way he talks, he's been a kind of moderate Republican

00:47:34.940 president in terms of in terms of what he's accomplished.

00:47:37.640 You know, I just don't understand why her health care plan wasn't more aspirational.

00:47:41.320 I feel like if she had come out and said, have you ever heard the wolf cry?

00:47:49.040 People would have I would have lined up just to hear the rest of this.

00:47:52.760 Why did why didn't Kamala Harris never do that? 1.00

00:47:54.800 Well, really, why didn't she ever?

00:47:56.220 I don't understand.

00:47:56.580 I do not understand for the life of me.

00:47:58.160 Why didn't she ever turn to Elizabeth Warren on that stage? 0.99

00:48:00.440 Yeah.

00:48:00.660 Let's say, listen, it's a black woman in America who's experienced discrimination, 0.94

00:48:03.400 had to live in a in a time when the vestiges of segregation were still present in America.

00:48:08.700 How could you, Elizabeth Warren, claim for 30 years of your career that you were a member

00:48:13.160 of a put upon minority group when you experienced every benefit of white privilege?

00:48:16.740 Like, how has no one in the Democratic Party done that?

00:48:19.900 Kamala Harris?

00:48:20.800 Like, how did she never do that? 0.98

00:48:22.240 She goes her entire campaign without doing that? 1.00

00:48:24.160 She's not afraid to attack.

00:48:25.640 She attacked Biden on race. 1.00

00:48:26.900 On bullseye.

00:48:27.560 Right? 0.82

00:48:27.820 I mean, on complete nonsense.

00:48:28.980 The trouble with the Pocahontas attack is it's now identified as a Trump attack.

00:48:32.500 That's right.

00:48:32.740 Trump is totally on it.

00:48:33.160 Well, that is the whole.

00:48:33.960 They have the big problem with this.

00:48:35.080 Every time somebody says something sensible, they say, well, that's a GOP talking point.

00:48:38.740 You think it's also the truth, you know?

00:48:40.460 And by the way, it's effective even among Democrats because you saw this with regard

00:48:44.000 exactly to Elizabeth Warren's health care plan is that Buttigieg would say, like, that's

00:48:47.500 not realistic.

00:48:48.060 Or Klobuchar would say that's not realistic.

00:48:49.780 And then somebody like Julian Castro would say, that's a Republican talking point.

00:48:53.260 And then Elizabeth Warren would tank in the polls. 1.00

00:48:54.680 Yeah.

00:48:55.000 Because it turns out that some of those Republican talking points are talking points because

00:48:57.840 they're true.

00:48:59.080 They're true.

00:48:59.720 No, this is like the Fox News meme where they say, well, that's just Fox News.

00:49:02.860 Is it the truth or not?

00:49:04.600 You know, some things on Fox News aren't true.

00:49:06.720 Some things are true, you know.

00:49:07.980 Speaking of Fox News, by the way, so I have a friend who watched this new Fox News movie,

00:49:11.920 this bombshell.

00:49:12.620 Oh, yeah.

00:49:13.240 I said it was pretty terrible.

00:49:14.760 Yeah.

00:49:15.180 I have to just say, I am so deeply irritated with Hollywood.

00:49:19.480 They've now made two separate Fox News films.

00:49:22.300 It bothers me, too.

00:49:22.800 They made one for HBO and they made this thing with all of the big stars in it with Charlize

00:49:28.200 Theron and Nicole Kidman.

00:49:30.040 And have they made, has there been any production deal on a Harvey Weinstein film, which is the

00:49:33.680 thing that led this entire thing all about NBC?

00:49:35.300 Not just this.

00:49:36.040 This thing drives me crazy.

00:49:38.080 George Stephanopoulos worked for Bill Clinton silencing women who said they were raped and 0.84

00:49:42.240 abused.

00:49:42.780 OK, that's what he did for Bill.

00:49:44.020 That was his job.

00:49:44.940 Now he's the top ABC newsman.

00:49:46.840 ABC killed the Jeffrey Epstein story during the Hillary Clinton.

00:49:50.580 Who did not kill himself.

00:49:52.020 Yeah, who did not kill himself.

00:49:53.360 Oh, that Jeffrey.

00:49:53.880 They spiked the Jeffrey Epstein story.

00:49:56.280 And then when after the person who released the fact that they spiked it, not the person

00:50:00.960 who spiked it, they said, they didn't say, oh, we're going to find the person who spiked

00:50:03.780 that story and fire him. 0.84

00:50:05.000 They said, we're going to find the person who released the story that this, that the Epstein

00:50:08.940 went and spiked and find her. 0.98

00:50:10.300 And are you also getting to that, that point that came out in the new book about Epstein,

00:50:14.380 that George Stephanopoulos was friends with Jeffrey Epstein?

00:50:16.400 Are you also?

00:50:17.120 He went, he went to the guy's party.

00:50:18.680 Yeah.

00:50:18.780 No, this is, this is an amazing thing, an amazing act of corruption that CBS fired an innocent

00:50:25.180 woman, it turned out, for maybe releasing the fact that they had spiked the story.

00:50:30.020 This, it drives me crazy. 0.99

00:50:31.540 This fact that they were raping little girls. 0.99

00:50:33.040 I mean, not little girls, they're raping teenage girls. 1.00

00:50:35.500 Yes. 0.99

00:50:35.840 And this guy was doing this en masse.

00:50:37.480 He was doing it like a factory.

00:50:39.040 Bill Clinton was involved.

00:50:40.640 Prince Andrew was involved.

00:50:41.660 These, these major people and the press covered it up.

00:50:45.300 And it drives me nuts.

00:50:46.500 And they're making pictures.

00:50:47.520 Okay.

00:50:47.840 Roger Ailes.

00:50:48.580 I'm sure he did bad things.

00:50:50.320 I'll take one.

00:50:50.800 When's the Matt Lauer movie, by the way?

00:50:51.920 What's that?

00:50:52.280 When's the Matt Lauer movie, by the way?

00:50:53.180 And the Matt Lauer movie, too.

00:50:54.460 I know.

00:50:54.620 It's in development, I think.

00:50:55.780 It's not, not Greenlee.

00:50:56.900 But what's nice is at the Oscars, we'll get a bunch of lectures from Hollywood where

00:51:00.340 this entire thing originated.

00:51:01.400 Just like last year, we'll get an entire lecture about how the rest of the American people

00:51:04.360 do not understand how women are put upon in this country.

00:51:07.800 And let these people sexually harass people every single, we sexually harass women and 1.00

00:51:13.140 originated the casting couch.

00:51:14.860 Let us explain to you, the American people.

00:51:16.960 There's an actual sculpture of the casting couch at Hollywood and Highland.

00:51:24.400 It's unbelievable.

00:51:25.400 You can't make it up.

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00:52:48.200 By the way, did you see John Kerry?

00:52:49.080 Sorry.

00:52:49.380 Did you see John Kerry endorse Joe Biden today?

00:52:52.160 Come on.

00:52:52.680 He did.

00:52:53.040 It was great.

00:52:53.440 It was like, which was very exciting because when one dead person endorses another dead

00:52:56.980 person, it's great for me because I actually do a fairly good John Kerry impersonation.

00:53:04.080 And so I rarely get to break it out anymore, right?

00:53:05.680 Because he's never in the news.

00:53:06.720 It's very sad when you actually work to craft a good impersonation.

00:53:09.740 When you watch so much Gilligan's Island that you can totally, you can turn wise.

00:53:13.020 When you take John Kerry reporting for duty, I'm here to endorse Joe Biden.

00:53:18.500 The pinnacle of the weekly standard, the pinnacle of the weekly standard was when he, when Kerry

00:53:23.740 got nominated, they just put his face on the cover and the headline was, why the long face?

00:53:30.560 Alicia.

00:53:31.680 Speaking of people who get Botox, let's circle back to Hollywood real quick.

00:53:36.460 I mean, seriously, that was the thing that was the most obvious to me about that Joe Biden

00:53:39.360 telling that guy he was a fatso. 0.86

00:53:40.740 The Botox is like crazy.

00:53:42.840 Need to find out who his doctor is.

00:53:44.540 All right.

00:53:45.140 This next subscriber question.

00:53:46.040 I think it's just embalming fluid.

00:53:50.100 This next question comes from a great Daily Wire subscriber who wants to know, how is it

00:53:53.840 that Hollywood can get totalitarian regimes, you know, big bad government with dystopian

00:53:58.280 sci-fi so right yet seem oblivious to the, their leftist political side being likely to

00:54:03.540 cause the, like that in the actual future?

00:54:06.760 Because stories conform to reality.

00:54:09.480 Great stories conform to reality and the people who work in Hollywood are very talented.

00:54:13.580 Many of them tell good stories and stories conform to reality.

00:54:17.140 Unfortunately, the people who tell stories don't always conform to reality.

00:54:20.640 So that if you, if you watch every great movie, every truly great movie has a conservative

00:54:25.380 theme, conservative in the way we talk about conservatives and being, being in service

00:54:29.460 to reality.

00:54:30.220 You mean truth.

00:54:30.940 The truth.

00:54:31.540 That's right.

00:54:31.920 You cannot tell.

00:54:33.940 This is, this is where the left has gone totally wrong, by the way.

00:54:37.180 The left had this theory and they've been pushing this theory since I was a kid, that

00:54:40.280 there's no such thing as truth.

00:54:41.880 There's only storytelling.

00:54:43.140 There's only narrative.

00:54:44.100 And people actually say this.

00:54:45.300 They say, well, if you change the narrative, you change the reality.

00:54:47.740 But that's not true.

00:54:48.980 As a lifelong, as a, as one of the very few people on earth who has made a living telling

00:54:53.040 stories, I can tell you that stories are responsible to the truth and they express truth.

00:54:58.140 And if they don't express truth, people come out of the theater and think that wasn't a

00:55:01.320 good movie.

00:55:01.660 They don't know why it's a good, not a good movie.

00:55:03.220 I think there's a reason why.

00:55:04.660 So I've been, I've been working on a new book, which is going to come out next August,

00:55:07.540 hopefully.

00:55:07.920 And I'm really pumping through it.

00:55:10.080 And one of the chief assumptions of the progressive left, and this has been true for a couple of

00:55:14.860 hundred years, is the idea of unlimited human malleability.

00:55:19.640 Yeah.

00:55:19.800 That if the system were just changed, everybody would become glorious.

00:55:22.380 We'd all love each other.

00:55:23.600 And that all of the problems in modern society, all disparities are attributable to the evils

00:55:27.920 of society.

00:55:28.360 If we would just change the system, then everybody would magically transform into angels.

00:55:32.280 They don't believe in the founding idea that if men were angels, you wouldn't need any

00:55:35.040 government.

00:55:35.360 If men were devils, then no government would be sufficient. 0.77

00:55:37.740 They don't believe the idea that human beings are sinful, but we have the capacity to fight

00:55:41.320 our sin using our reason and our will, which is a religious concept.

00:55:44.120 They don't believe any of that.

00:55:45.060 They actually believe the idea that human beings are basically clay that are molded by the systems

00:55:49.380 in which they live, which is a Rousseau idea.

00:55:51.040 Well, all story cannot survive on that premise because all stories are told about characters.

00:55:56.560 And every character that you know, every single person you know has characteristics.

00:56:00.140 Characteristics are by nature somewhat immutable.

00:56:02.520 James Bond has characteristics.

00:56:03.860 If James Bond were to suddenly become incredibly effeminate and unable to shoot a gun, he wouldn't

00:56:08.640 be James Bond anymore.

00:56:09.520 He'd be not James Bond.

00:56:10.020 He'd be not James Bond.

00:56:11.240 And so every movie that you've ever watched is about characters who are real human beings,

00:56:16.400 who are human beings.

00:56:17.080 Because every human being you know is not capable of magically shape-shifting and turning

00:56:20.500 into something, at least not in terms of their persona.

00:56:24.440 And so because human nature is fixed in movies, because it has to be, in order for characters

00:56:29.240 to have character arc or even to be characters, that means that you immediately have to be living

00:56:32.860 in a conservative universe.

00:56:33.760 You know, I used to have a priest in the Episcopal Church who was a corrupt guy, and I knew he 0.54

00:56:39.740 was a corrupt guy.

00:56:40.660 And he used to say people are infinitely malleable.

00:56:43.400 Who was his hero?

00:56:44.600 Dietrich Bonhoeffer.

00:56:45.560 Dietrich Bonhoeffer, who sat in New York smoking cigarettes and thinking, I have to go back

00:56:50.300 to Germany because I have to face Hitler, and died doing that because he wasn't infinitely 0.95

00:56:54.540 malleable.

00:56:55.200 He had guts and he had integrity and he had principles, and he lived those principles out.

00:56:58.880 So the thing is, the story of Dietrich Bonhoeffer moved this guy, but he was still capable of

00:57:04.920 holding this absolutely conflicting theory, which is the theory that you say, that people

00:57:08.700 are infinitely malleable, and of course they're not.

00:57:11.640 Great question.

00:57:12.520 Alicia, give us another one. 0.97

00:57:13.540 All right.

00:57:13.820 I feel like I know what Ben and Drew might teach if they were professors, but this question

00:57:17.940 is for all of you guys.

00:57:19.200 If you could choose a college course in anything you wanted to teach, what would it be and why?

00:57:24.440 Obviously, political and historical writing.

00:57:27.420 I would probably talk about book-length works that, say, maybe teach the succinct economy

00:57:35.440 of words, and I would not show up and prepare anything, and that would be the whole course.

00:57:39.680 What I would like to teach, what I would most like to teach, the thing I'm most interested

00:57:43.920 in, is theology.

00:57:46.260 And I actually do believe that I know much more about most college subjects than most college

00:57:52.660 professors today, and yet I am in no way qualified to teach any of these things at colleges.

00:57:57.560 That's more an indictment of the university system as we have it today.

00:58:01.980 Drew, you got to teach at a college this last year.

00:58:03.800 I did.

00:58:04.260 I really had a great time.

00:58:05.640 I mean, I was at Hillsdale, so it was a great college, and I taught about covering the culture,

00:58:09.260 and it was just fascinating to watch.

00:58:11.520 You know, the kids really responded to it.

00:58:13.600 They really liked the course, which was very gratifying, but they liked it because I was

00:58:17.100 saying things like, you know, when you read a newspaper, you can see the way they're

00:58:20.200 manipulating stories.

00:58:21.220 But if it were up to me, I would teach literature, and I'd probably teach romantic poetry.

00:58:25.540 I think that the British romantics, the English romantics, were a highly important moment.

00:58:31.860 They lived in a time very much like ours, when a revolution had inspired people and

00:58:36.420 then failed.

00:58:37.340 For them, it was the French Revolution.

00:58:38.640 For us, it's the 60s.

00:58:39.760 They had to rebuild the world in the wake of that revolution, and they still had people

00:58:43.220 who were saying, like we have, oh, the revolution was the great thing.

00:58:46.600 And then they had guys like Wordsworth who were saying, wait a minute, that didn't work

00:58:50.700 out very well.

00:58:51.400 And they excoriated Wordsworth while he became one of the great minds of the time.

00:58:55.460 So that's what I would just like to teach them.

00:58:56.820 I think they're incredibly relevant.

00:58:58.400 I think their writing is so insanely beautiful.

00:59:01.540 And I think they were doing something really important that speaks into the moment.

00:59:04.480 Well, the fact that Drew wants to teach poetry explains why he's still in favor of the

00:59:07.280 university system.

00:59:08.480 The only place that would pay anyone to actually teach poetry.

00:59:11.320 Not this university.

00:59:12.160 Yeah, exactly.

00:59:12.680 But for me, the thing that I'd be interested in teaching about would be the ideals of the

00:59:19.320 founding era, because I think they are wildly misinterpreted.

00:59:21.740 I think people lie about them.

00:59:23.000 And I think that those ideals still provide the glue that holds the country together.

00:59:27.080 Now, admittedly, I'm writing a book on this right now.

00:59:29.100 So that's what's first and foremost in my mind.

00:59:32.740 But the fact is that the more you investigate what exactly was going through the founding

00:59:36.840 father's head, what their influences were, what exactly were the chief ideals upon which

00:59:40.680 they're arresting the building of the greatest country in the history of humanity, the more

00:59:44.360 you realize that these were eternal principles.

00:59:46.500 And the great lie that the left is told is that these principles were not eternal, but they

00:59:49.480 were written just for the time.

00:59:50.520 There's a sort of historicist approach to the American founding that all of this was

00:59:54.140 built for a time that's no longer relevant.

00:59:56.220 You see this in the writings of Woodrow Wilson, who really talked a lot about the idea that

00:59:59.880 the American founding, you know, what they said about government, that was applicable

01:00:02.000 then.

01:00:02.740 But human nature has changed and the economy has changed.

01:00:05.220 And you see this with the left very often when they talk about economics.

01:00:08.040 Well, the economic system has fundamentally changed.

01:00:10.000 You hear this even from some people on the right.

01:00:11.960 I think Tucker Carlson does this.

01:00:13.200 The economic system has fundamentally changed because of technology and because of globalization

01:00:16.600 and free trade.

01:00:17.860 And one of the things that the founders made clear is that they were basing their philosophy

01:00:22.660 not on the contingencies of historical circumstance.

01:00:25.680 They were basing it on their view of eternal, immutable human nature.

01:00:28.920 And that view is what provided the basis for a capitalist free market system, particularly in economics,

01:00:34.760 because free market systems are not systems that are built by man to serve us.

01:00:38.160 They are just a manifestation of the idea that you own your own labor and that you as a human

01:00:42.340 being have rights that pre-exist government.

01:00:44.760 And those rights, because they pre-exist government, are more important than the government.

01:00:48.180 And if the government does not exist to protect those rights, the government has completely

01:00:51.540 destroyed its rationale for being in the first place.

01:00:55.260 Free markets are simply a recognition of human nature and of human rights.

01:01:00.520 They're not a system that is built.

01:01:02.320 And because the left believes that every system is built and because the left wants to build

01:01:05.520 systems and because they've engaged in what Hayek called the fatal conceit, which they

01:01:08.860 get a bunch of smart people in the room and they can rule the world and they can put together

01:01:12.000 all the smart ideas.

01:01:13.220 That's never been true.

01:01:14.280 It will never be true.

01:01:15.480 And the founders knew that, which is why the system they built has been durable and successful.

01:01:19.740 So I would like to teach you about economics if I knew anything about it.

01:01:23.860 I will say this, though.

01:01:25.000 You know, I just got back from being in Egypt and it's a very unbelievable country.

01:01:29.280 If anybody has the opportunity to go, you should.

01:01:31.880 It's safe.

01:01:32.540 You know, they had the revolution back in 2011.

01:01:35.000 Their tourism has really suffered.

01:01:36.220 But the military and the police do a really good job of making sure that American tourists

01:01:40.000 are safe to visit as long as you stay in the places you're supposed to be.

01:01:43.860 And you see these monuments, 5,000.

01:01:45.800 I mean, you can't really wrap your head around.

01:01:48.120 And in another forum, I have an awful lot to say about it from a religious point of view.

01:01:51.680 I had a lot of great kind of realizations there.

01:01:54.980 The fact that Egypt is so central to Judaism, is so central to Christianity in ways that

01:01:59.900 I think Jews and Christians sometimes omit, miss.

01:02:03.880 Those are things that, again, in another forum, it'd be a lot of fun for the four of us to

01:02:07.380 talk about.

01:02:08.300 But I did have an economic realization when I was there because, you know, it's at the

01:02:11.080 intersection of the Middle East and Africa.

01:02:12.840 It's a country where the military owns everything that has value.

01:02:16.180 And so the average person lives in third world conditions.

01:02:20.180 And if you've ever visited the third world, there are a lot of things that all third world 0.58

01:02:23.940 countries have in common. 0.97

01:02:25.300 One of them is there's literal garbage everywhere.

01:02:28.740 There's rubble everywhere because no one is invested in improving their surroundings.

01:02:33.800 People have a kind of hopelessness, a kind of fatalism, and they don't take those kinds

01:02:37.460 of actions in third world countries.

01:02:39.400 And the other thing that they have in all third world countries, and I actually find it

01:02:43.080 kind of a shame when you talk to Americans about it, they often say that it's one of the

01:02:46.460 charming things about visiting these countries, is that they have a kind of barter system.

01:02:51.380 That, you know, we haggle, oh, I bought this little Chotsky, and we bartered for it.

01:02:55.760 We haggled over the price.

01:02:57.020 They wanted two American dollars, and I only gave them one American dollar, and it was so

01:03:00.600 much fun.

01:03:02.200 That is why they're poor.

01:03:04.020 This is the thing that upsets me, is when you sort of reduce people down to being cultural

01:03:09.640 novelties instead of treating them like humans.

01:03:11.940 The worst idea ever had by man, and it's been had by almost every man who ever lived, is

01:03:17.820 that there is a fixed amount of money, and therefore, in order for you to win, I would

01:03:22.220 have to lose.

01:03:23.120 And in order for me to win, you would have to lose.

01:03:25.900 And when you visit third world countries, you really experience this, that in almost every

01:03:30.420 human interaction, there is an element of competition, that they're trying to get you

01:03:36.440 to do something that isn't in your interest, because they don't feel that they've won unless

01:03:42.000 they also feel that you've lost.

01:03:43.680 This is why, when you go into third world countries, people get killed at cell phone 0.84

01:03:46.820 kiosks in the mall. 0.97

01:03:49.080 That doesn't happen in America, because when you go to a cell phone kiosk in the mall, the

01:03:53.000 cell phone says $2.99 on a price tag, and if you say, hey, I'll give you $1.99, the

01:03:57.000 guy goes, no, I mean, it's written right there, $2.99.

01:04:01.100 That forces you to make a moral decision, really, not a moral, but a value-based decision.

01:04:06.500 Is that phone worth more to me than the $299 that are in my pocket?

01:04:11.860 The $299 in my pocket are worth more to Verizon than the phone, which they have.

01:04:17.100 And therefore, when you enter into that transaction, everyone is made richer.

01:04:20.840 Verizon got what they valued more.

01:04:22.800 I got what I valued more.

01:04:24.180 We're both happy.

01:04:25.020 But when you go into the third world, one of the things that happened to us, we were

01:04:28.680 at the pyramid.

01:04:29.160 Somebody came up, they wanted to sell me this hat.

01:04:34.000 My friend, my friend, my friend.

01:04:35.360 No, thank you.

01:04:36.060 My friend, but my friend, only $1.

01:04:38.100 No, thank you.

01:04:38.860 I don't need a hat.

01:04:39.360 My friend, my friend, for you, only $1.

01:04:41.800 No, I appreciate it.

01:04:43.240 Then he just put the hat on my head.

01:04:45.720 And now he wins, because he put the hat on my head.

01:04:49.280 I have engaged in the transaction.

01:04:50.900 I wasn't strong enough to beat him.

01:04:52.660 And now he holds out his hand to get his $1.

01:04:55.020 He is happy because he won, and I lost.

01:04:59.160 He's happy because he was able to force me to engage in a transaction that I did not

01:05:03.840 want to take part in.

01:05:05.560 And he got his.

01:05:07.260 I lost.

01:05:08.200 He won.

01:05:08.860 And I think when, you know, because you're an American, you actually just want to kind

01:05:11.860 of move along and take a picture with a camel.

01:05:13.820 So you just give the guy the dollar at a certain point.

01:05:15.900 You're like, whatever, dude.

01:05:16.760 I got plenty of $1.

01:05:18.220 Here, have $1.

01:05:18.960 You move about your business. 0.96

01:05:21.340 He walks away thinking, these Americans are so weak.

01:05:25.320 He let me put a hat on his hand and extract from him the $1.

01:05:29.260 What he doesn't understand is that, no, I am completely flush with $1.

01:05:33.920 I could buy these hats until Santa Claus comes down the chimney.

01:05:38.000 I'm lousy with Egyptian hats.

01:05:39.180 I'm lousy with $1.

01:05:40.820 And the reason I'm lousy with $1 is because I don't believe in your idea that economies

01:05:47.440 are fixed, that money is fixed.

01:05:48.880 I don't believe that I have to lose in order for you to win.

01:05:51.160 And because of that, we've created the entire modern world.

01:05:53.920 And I only bring all of this up basically to humble brag that I was in Egypt.

01:05:58.580 But I also bring it up because you see it in America.

01:06:01.860 And you see it more and more in America.

01:06:03.620 You see it sometimes with immigrant communities. 1.00

01:06:06.000 If you go to a car wash or something that's owned by first-generation Americans, 1.00

01:06:09.680 sometimes they'll pull this, you know, how much for a car wash?

01:06:12.480 For you, my friend.

01:06:13.220 And I'm like, no, we're not friends.

01:06:14.820 No for you, my friend.

01:06:15.840 How much does it cost?

01:06:16.800 I just want to determine whether or not it's worth my investment.

01:06:19.420 And I want you not to be one-up in me.

01:06:22.260 I don't want you to feel like you want.

01:06:23.300 I want to decide whether or not I give you money and you give me service.

01:06:25.860 But you don't just see it with first-generation Americans.

01:06:28.980 The entire premise of almost every candidate at these Democrat debates is this premise.

01:06:36.000 No, I agree with you.

01:06:36.680 There's an article in the New York Times today in which Elizabeth Warren was saying

01:06:40.720 that taxing rich people will be good for the economy just because you're taxing them.

01:06:45.680 I know.

01:06:45.880 She literally says in the piece, you don't have to spend the money in any way.

01:06:48.880 Just hurting rich people is somehow going to help the economy.

01:06:50.980 The idea of stories and truth.

01:06:52.280 Because money is a story about the truth of value.

01:06:55.460 Yes.

01:06:55.760 And so it's infinite.

01:06:57.260 There's infinite amount of money if there's infinite value.

01:06:59.420 And what they don't understand is it's a kind of idolatry.

01:07:03.420 What idolatry is, is taking the story for the fact.

01:07:06.100 That's what it is.

01:07:06.680 It's taking the idol for the God. 0.61

01:07:08.760 It's taking the money for the value.

01:07:10.360 And once you understand that these things represent a truth and the truth is immutable,

01:07:14.400 then you're actually in a whole new world.

01:07:17.000 And when you stand in Egypt, when you stand at the foot of these monuments that are 5,000 years old,

01:07:22.700 that literally defy imagination, it's actually fairly humbling.

01:07:26.740 Because what it tells us is mankind was capable of doing this 3,000 years before Christ.

01:07:33.280 Well, if they got Shapiro's ancestors.

01:07:36.320 When Cleopatra looked upon the pyramid, we think of Cleopatra and the Sphinx and the pyramid.

01:07:40.960 When Cleopatra looked at the pyramid, it was older to her eyes than Cleopatra is to our eyes now.

01:07:47.100 Right.

01:07:47.520 It would be shorter for us to get to her than it would be. 0.70

01:07:49.540 They were capable of doing this 5,000 years ago, and then the bad idea set in.

01:07:55.680 And that culture has not created anything in the last, really, 2,500 years.

01:08:01.540 Why?

01:08:02.320 Why were they capable of creating the greatest wonders that the world had ever known?

01:08:05.900 And now it's just rubble and ruin and tragedy.

01:08:09.400 And it's because of this bad idea.

01:08:11.700 You can only extract so much value before you run out of value.

01:08:14.620 Extractive value has a limit.

01:08:16.300 Non-extractive value has no limit.

01:08:17.560 Created value is limit.

01:08:18.520 Created value.

01:08:18.940 I'll tell you one more thing about being in Egypt.

01:08:21.160 Hold on.

01:08:21.460 Were you in Egypt?

01:08:22.760 I was in Egypt.

01:08:23.260 Oh, okay.

01:08:23.540 When I was in Egypt, Egypt, and I was in Egypt, my Netflix account got hacked.

01:08:27.600 What?

01:08:28.160 Yeah.

01:08:28.640 And when you live, even I, who only sort of am tangentially involved in public life, 0.63

01:08:33.300 the first thing you think is, oh, crap, what have I been watching?

01:08:35.440 What's my history going to reveal?

01:08:36.780 What's going to wind up on the internet?

01:08:38.400 I was watching The Irishman, weren't you?

01:08:40.720 It's not good, by the way.

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01:09:16.840 So you've got to get it.

01:09:17.740 I know what everyone thinks, because I used to think this.

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01:09:21.700 No, who cares about my data?

01:09:23.120 Little old me, they do.

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01:10:23.420 So, we warned you that a guest was coming.

01:10:26.480 He is the godfather of successful podcasts.

01:10:29.120 We have admired him for a long time.

01:10:30.600 Ben and I actually hosted him at one of the very first political events that we had at

01:10:34.580 our first failed website, which is a precursor to this, our enormously successful.

01:10:40.260 He co-stars alongside me in a new film called No Safe Spaces.

01:10:45.440 Everybody here has seen the movie.

01:10:47.740 If you watch it slowly, if you don't take a bathroom break, you will see Jeremy Boring

01:10:53.880 himself, lowercase g, lowercase k, God King, walking the halls of Congress beside the guy

01:10:58.980 they were pointing the camera at.

01:10:59.820 As your co-star in this movie, I would point out, there are about 30 frames of this film

01:11:05.820 where if you squint really hard, you can see me.

01:11:08.340 So, you got to go check it out.

01:11:09.240 Yeah.

01:11:09.500 But Adam Carolla, on the other hand, the whole film is lousy with Adam.

01:11:12.900 The film is called No Safe Spaces.

01:11:15.000 It was made by our friend, Justin Folk, who's a terrific, talented director.

01:11:19.000 He, in his own way, is the godfather of our business because he created some of the very

01:11:22.900 first Andrew Wilson videos.

01:11:24.980 No Safe Spaces is opening up nationwide in theaters tomorrow.

01:11:28.640 And Adam is here to talk to us about it.

01:11:30.040 But first, we're going to show you this delightful trailer.

01:11:33.140 You have the right to remain silent.

01:11:36.620 Anything you say will be used against you.

01:11:40.000 You are not listening.

01:11:41.180 I want your job to be taken from you.

01:11:44.660 A protest has turned violent at California, Berkeley.

01:11:48.000 This is why we're fighting for the soul of America.

01:11:52.620 You should be able to share ideas without fear of being fired from your job or shouted down.

01:12:01.080 You are not to be heard.

01:12:03.380 This is one of the few things one could say we have no precedent for in the United States.

01:12:08.620 You have the right to remain silent.

01:12:10.520 The only way we separate the good ideas from the bad ideas is to be free to say whatever we want about them.

01:12:18.500 Anything you say will be used against you.

01:12:20.680 It's a fantastic film.

01:12:21.820 It opens tomorrow.

01:12:23.020 And Adam, thanks for stopping by and talking to us.

01:12:24.800 Thanks for having me.

01:12:25.760 How did you just materialize?

01:12:26.900 Yeah, it was amazing.

01:12:27.920 Incredible.

01:12:28.820 Jeremy, you've gotten so much more handsome.

01:12:30.100 I want full Dr. Bombay, if you guys remember watching Bewitched.

01:12:36.640 In the middle of a polo match.

01:12:39.780 Remember that?

01:12:41.280 He's always somewhere.

01:12:43.180 Yes.

01:12:43.940 Tell us a little bit about the film.

01:12:45.160 We've all had the opportunity to see it and love it, but the audience obviously hasn't.

01:12:48.620 I'll tell you a little inside baseball story that was reminding of when I was thinking.

01:12:54.560 We spoke in front of Congress at the same time, and Ben is an A student, and I am a horrible, wretched student from North Hollywood High.

01:13:07.700 But you get older, and you get successful, and you think you have some nice cars, a nice home, and a nice bank account.

01:13:16.820 You think, you can do this.

01:13:19.120 And I flew out on a Wednesday night, red-eye kind of thing, landed.

01:13:24.120 We had to hit it early in the morning.

01:13:26.340 And of course, I was going to work on this on the airplane, but I had a few drinks.

01:13:32.120 What are you going to do?

01:13:33.020 I watched three episodes of T.J. Hooker, like fell asleep, and then showed up the next morning, and there was Ben, like typed pages, single space, a minute a page.

01:13:44.720 And he was like the A student, and I had a steno pad with like arrows going like, no, do this one first, and like a pirate drawing on here.

01:13:54.600 You all hate him at it.

01:13:55.660 And they're like, I'm going like, what's the order?

01:13:59.000 What's the order?

01:13:59.620 And they go, oh, you're going after Ben.

01:14:00.900 And all of a sudden, I was in the ninth grade, and I was a crappy student, and you were doing the oral presentation before me.

01:14:09.460 And I was like, I literally was 14 years old.

01:14:13.260 Adam, I want to know, since maybe we could break some news here, did you at least give Ben a swirly after this? 0.84

01:14:19.600 I mean, it did work out exactly like it probably worked out in high school, which is I gave the A presentation, and he made everybody laugh, and nobody gave a crap. 0.65

01:14:26.560 Right, yeah, and no girl. 0.99

01:14:28.840 And you should have been from a dicks for some reason. 0.99

01:14:31.080 You just sort of held one up. 0.98

01:14:32.120 I didn't know why.

01:14:33.160 It was in the congressional record and everything.

01:14:34.900 Yeah, he knocked it out of the park, like didn't inhale his entire day, no commas or pauses.

01:14:41.880 And I remember going, come on, dude.

01:14:44.020 And then I was, yeah, but I got a few laughs and made up.

01:14:47.420 And I did.

01:14:48.100 I did what I did in junior high, which is I'm not prepared.

01:14:51.340 I don't have the material.

01:14:52.300 But if I can crack a couple of jokes, maybe I'll get a C minus.

01:14:55.900 Well, I sat behind both of you, and I thought, there's only one guy here I want to be friends with.

01:15:01.040 Yeah, he's in business with the other one.

01:15:03.600 Yeah, no safe spaces.

01:15:05.800 Well, just a chance to work with Dennis Prager for me is awesome, and you guys all know.

01:15:10.140 He's such a great guy just to sort of hang out with.

01:15:13.280 It's almost like when the cameras start rolling, it's like, oh, we can stop kibitzing about whatever fun stuff we were talking about.

01:15:20.940 So I toured the country, done some events with Dennis, done his program.

01:15:25.820 He'd done my program.

01:15:27.240 And so the producer said, hey, you want to do this project with Dennis Prager?

01:15:30.880 And I was like, oh, yeah, for sure.

01:15:32.460 That'll be fun.

01:15:33.340 And then, of course, on a real important subject.

01:15:37.260 And if you see the movie, you know, we don't really call it a doc.

01:15:41.400 It's kind of a film because it's got lots of reenactments and lots of different stories and animation.

01:15:46.100 It has a lot of humor in it.

01:15:46.980 The reenactments, by the way, are like the greatest part of the film.

01:15:49.160 So good.

01:15:49.840 Yeah, it's a really great piece.

01:15:52.320 It's Dennis, who's, you know, so incredibly humble, always says, you know, it's a great movie.

01:15:57.000 Not because I'm in it.

01:15:58.220 Not because I'm in it.

01:15:59.340 Like, he always has to do the humble part.

01:16:01.940 And it's a great movie, but we were along for the ride.

01:16:06.780 Like, the producers did a great job.

01:16:08.680 Justin did a great job at directing it.

01:16:10.480 And it's a really effective piece.

01:16:13.720 Like, I mean, it'll move you to tears at the end.

01:16:16.840 But also, you watch it and you go, this is important.

01:16:19.480 And the timing couldn't be better.

01:16:22.360 And it's like, bring the kids.

01:16:24.340 Because if you've got a 12, 13, 14-year-old at home and this is what's waiting for them on that college campus,

01:16:31.000 they need a little vaccination.

01:16:33.000 Have you had the chance to show the film to any sort of non-conservative audiences?

01:16:37.800 Have you seen any people on the left react to the film at all?

01:16:40.660 I think we just show it and kind of who shows up, who shows up, is who shows up.

01:16:47.380 And I think we get a pretty mixed bag in there.

01:16:50.420 It probably leans, you know, in terms of the audience, more conservative.

01:16:54.180 But we've gotten some good notices and some good feedback from folks on the left.

01:16:59.060 And I think Dennis always is careful to make the distinction between liberal and left.

01:17:04.680 I think that's one of his more brilliant observations.

01:17:08.100 I think we all think of ourselves as liberal in a sort of classic sense.

01:17:12.580 But the left stuff is not liberal.

01:17:15.240 It's sort of the opposite.

01:17:16.840 Yeah, it's the opposite of liberal.

01:17:18.700 I have to think that a lot of people who, sort of traditional Democrats in this country,

01:17:22.780 who may not agree with us on a lot of social issues, may not even agree with us about tax policy,

01:17:26.800 but would still be pretty appalled that what they thought college was supposed to be about,

01:17:30.520 which is this exchange of ideas, maybe even getting in a little trouble with your ideas,

01:17:34.120 trying out some ideas that maybe as you get a little older, you don't even keep them.

01:17:37.360 But you test the water of what you're going to believe.

01:17:39.680 And that just isn't happening on campus right now.

01:17:42.080 It seems like it's not being allowed at all.

01:17:43.660 That's so funny because I was just doing a Martha McCallum show,

01:17:47.440 and she was talking about diversity on the campus and the math teacher getting in all the scrum and everything.

01:17:52.880 And it's like diversity, diversity, diversity.

01:17:55.520 Yeah, but only in skin color, not in opinions, not in ideas.

01:17:59.720 I mean, isn't the ultimate diversity, the diversity of opinion?

01:18:03.200 This notion of like, we're looking for diversity.

01:18:05.600 So it's a whole bunch of different colored people who think exactly the same way.

01:18:10.020 That's your definition of diversity?

01:18:12.660 That's the opposite.

01:18:14.540 And there's something, Ben, you'll be glad I say constantly,

01:18:19.180 into the microphone and then toward the heavens when I'm alone,

01:18:22.400 which is in the doc when you, in the film, when you go to speak to Berkeley

01:18:28.400 and they have like the vice chancellor or something.

01:18:31.000 And he says this, and this is something I think is important where they go.

01:18:34.580 The guy goes, I disagree with everything Ben Shapiro has to say,

01:18:39.200 but I agree he has the right to say it.

01:18:42.160 And I'm always like, you don't disagree with everything Ben Shapiro has to say. 1.00

01:18:46.880 As a matter of fact, if you do, then you're an idiot. 1.00

01:18:50.000 Because most of what Ben Shapiro says is correct. 1.00

01:18:53.080 There's a small subsection of stuff that has to do with faith, religion, and history,

01:18:58.060 and your personal beliefs and things like that.

01:19:00.660 But most of the family, the country, the education, the pay the taxes, like be a good neighbor,

01:19:06.140 you agree.

01:19:06.820 And I think there's a big problem where they go, I don't agree with anything that Dennis Prager has to say.

01:19:12.160 You agree with 96% of what Dennis Prager says.

01:19:16.300 If you're a normal, right-thinking, I don't mean to the right,

01:19:19.720 just a normal, correct-thinking person, you will agree with that.

01:19:24.760 You'll agree with Ben.

01:19:25.900 I think it's creating this chasm of like, we don't agree on anything.

01:19:30.360 All right, now we're going to move forward.

01:19:32.120 You agree on 80% of things.

01:19:33.660 Exactly right.

01:19:33.920 I spoke at Boston University a couple of weeks ago, and I was protested by 200 people outside

01:19:39.360 doing this mass protest, calling me a white supremacist and a racist.

01:19:42.860 And inside, I was talking about how Frederick Douglass should be on the national currency

01:19:46.200 and the evils of slavery and Jim Crow in American life, because they've never listened to a word.

01:19:51.740 And there was a guy who was going around with a camera, Fleckes,

01:19:54.200 he was going around with a camera asking people,

01:19:56.020 so what do you know about what Shapiro has said?

01:19:57.600 Nobody knew anything, of course, but that is what happens on campus.

01:20:00.260 One of the things I wanted to ask you is, you know, Dennis and you occupy obviously very different spaces,

01:20:04.200 and Dennis, you know, is sort of in our more traditional space,

01:20:07.980 but you have that crossover with the Hollywood community,

01:20:10.620 because you have a lot of friends, you got started in more traditional Hollywood,

01:20:13.960 you have a lot of friends, particularly in the comedic community.

01:20:16.120 Have they seen the film at all?

01:20:17.260 Have they given you feedback on sort of the theme of it?

01:20:20.140 We had a few out to the premiere who really enjoyed it,

01:20:25.520 and then there's some, obviously, that are in the movie,

01:20:28.540 Tim Allen, Brian Callen, Harlan Williams came out to the premiere,

01:20:33.880 and some other names escape me right now.

01:20:36.580 I'm going to Seth MacFarlane's Christmas party in a week,

01:20:40.220 so maybe I'll sneak a Blu-ray in and pop it in, too.

01:20:45.860 I'll pop out his DVD of Reds with Warren Beatty,

01:20:50.500 and I'll pop in, I'll pop in no safe spaces,

01:20:55.180 and he'll probably be so many sheets of the wind by the time he gets in the bed.

01:20:58.700 He might have watched it all the time.

01:20:59.500 One of the things I've been seeing, though, is that there, I mean,

01:21:01.900 it seems like every comedy special is now at least half directed at the extraordinarily woke.

01:21:06.680 Every single one is directed at the overextension of the SJW mentality,

01:21:11.160 of the far-left mentality that says that you can't talk to us.

01:21:13.940 I mean, people who we disagree with a lot of the time,

01:21:17.000 but are beginning to realize that the left has pushed too far on this sort of stuff.

01:21:21.520 People who you're friends with, but, you know, would never have a conversation with me, obviously.

01:21:25.220 Even Seth MacFarlane, the guy's made his entire fortune basically on pushing the envelope of free speech, right?

01:21:30.280 Yeah, yeah, I think there's a saturation point.

01:21:33.780 I think you're seeing it with a lot of the comedians pushing back.

01:21:37.020 I think that Dave Chappelle, Bill Burr had one, where you're seeing it's comedians' job to sort of be the canary in the coal mine.

01:21:47.080 We have to, or the bellwether, the divining rod, or whatever the metaphor is.

01:21:51.460 So, like, comedians have to sort of take in what's going on around us in society, the milieu, the zeitgeist, you know, like, bring it in.

01:22:00.600 And then, wait, why was I such a bad student with all those big words?

01:22:05.380 I'm going to sue Walter Reed Jr. High.

01:22:09.360 We did go to the same Jr. High back then.

01:22:10.900 We did.

01:22:13.260 It's our jobs as comedians to kind of feel what's going on and then push against it.

01:22:19.060 So if there's too much this, we're going to have to give that.

01:22:22.120 And when you feel the pushback, that means the comedians have hit their saturation point.

01:22:27.880 And once the comedians hit the saturation point, they'll be the first people on the beach.

01:22:33.800 You know what I mean?

01:22:34.220 They'll be the first out of the Higgins craft.

01:22:36.420 That's how comedy works.

01:22:38.320 Do you lose, not to get too personal, but, I mean, do you lose friends in Hollywood by doing the things that you do, by saying the things you say?

01:22:44.040 No, just jobs.

01:22:46.740 But none of those guys who were going to hire me, my friends.

01:22:50.240 No, I honestly, I was laughing with my wife there because I had, like, another documentary, not get into Sundance and whatever.

01:22:57.460 And it's just, you'll never, I'll never, nothing with my name will, I make documentaries all day long.

01:23:02.480 None of them are getting into Sundance.

01:23:04.380 Nothing I do.

01:23:06.240 I said to my wife, I said, this Adam Carolla is never getting into Sundance.

01:23:10.420 I'm going by Nome de Plume.

01:23:12.280 I said, my new name, Jules Dash.

01:23:14.760 And she said, I don't even know if that's a man or a woman's name.

01:23:18.300 And I said.

01:23:20.740 Arbitrary categories.

01:23:21.640 I have been a fan of yours forever.

01:23:24.360 And I was an early reader of your prophetic work in 50 Years We'll All Be Chicks.

01:23:30.960 When I watched the movie at the premiere, I, even I was shocked at how crazy it's gotten.

01:23:36.320 I was in college not that long ago.

01:23:39.460 I'm only half joking because all of those jokes have sort of come true.

01:23:43.700 Do you feel vindicated?

01:23:44.580 Yeah, but I think I have to die to really realize that feeling because all I do is sort of, well, as a comedian and a sort of junior psychologist, all I do is try to see what's happening before it's happening.

01:24:03.440 I mean, that's all comedians do is kind of feel what's going on and get there before everyone else does.

01:24:10.220 And so, 10 years ago, I wrote In 50 Years We'll All Be Chicks because I felt all of this coming.

01:24:16.420 And if you read the book, we will, it is, all these things are touched upon.

01:24:21.960 And it's kind of your job to be a little soothsayer or a little Nostradamus-y if you're plugged in.

01:24:29.720 Because you can kind of, like, you'll see things like, you study things.

01:24:34.620 Like, you study the Torah.

01:24:36.820 I study daytime TV commercials.

01:24:40.220 When I was a kid and I'd stay home from Walter Reed Junior High in 1977, every daytime TV commercial was, you want to drive a truck?

01:24:51.100 I'm Wally Thor.

01:24:51.980 We go to the school of trucking.

01:24:53.320 In two weeks, get your Class C license.

01:24:55.240 They're like, every commercial that was on Wednesday at 1 o'clock was, drive a truck, small appliance repair.

01:25:02.500 For the women, it was learn to work in a doctor's world. 1.00

01:25:05.620 I don't know, without secretary or something.

01:25:07.680 So it was all, get a job.

01:25:09.960 Get a job.

01:25:10.540 You're unemployed.

01:25:11.400 You're home during the day.

01:25:12.460 Get a job.

01:25:13.760 Now, every daytime commercial is a class action lawsuit.

01:25:18.180 Did you have some pubic mesh explode or something? 1.00

01:25:21.480 Were you exposed to chalk?

01:25:23.120 Were you in, like, the towel?

01:25:24.800 You can sue for that?

01:25:25.480 You can sue.

01:25:26.140 And then it gets into, like, a wrongful termination, discrimination at work.

01:25:32.280 And I was laughing with Mark Garagos the other day.

01:25:35.360 I said, my kids' kids are going to be home watching TV.

01:25:40.000 And Mark Garagos III is going to come on the television and go, has your boss asked you to do stuff?

01:25:48.680 Because I think we'll be there by then, right?

01:25:55.420 Oh, yeah.

01:25:55.860 I mean, well, it was not in 50 years.

01:25:58.300 It was in five, right?

01:25:59.480 Yes, we made it.

01:26:00.320 It was just, I mean, that whole, you have a whole section of that book, which is, it is, it's the funniest book ever written.

01:26:06.140 It's so funny.

01:26:07.060 The whole section of the book where you talk about your son and the expectation that if you're not a homophobe, then you will engage in sexual congress, a member of the same sex. 0.97

01:26:16.620 And we literally, there are articles in, like, regularly now about how if you are a biological male and you do not wish to have sex with a biological male who identifies as a female, then you're gay. 0.92

01:26:28.540 So if you won't actually have sex with a biological man, as a biological man, because he identifies as a female, this actually makes you a homosexual. 0.79

01:26:36.580 Right. 0.98

01:26:36.880 Yeah, this is so liberating.

01:26:38.220 Right?

01:26:39.640 Yeah, the thing that's funny, I always sort of crack up about that in 50 years of all the chicks is because I said in 50 years, and it started happening about four years after the book was published, and that was 10 years ago. 0.51

01:26:53.780 But I always say, like, you know in all those climate movies where the earth's going to be enveloped in tidal waves and the thing, there's always that scene about 18 minutes into act one where it's like, Dr. Fessbender, what's going on?

01:27:06.860 I was like, I was way off.

01:27:08.500 I remember you said we had 30 years.

01:27:12.200 We have until Wednesday.

01:27:14.900 It's Wednesday.

01:27:16.180 There's always that scene where it's way off.

01:27:18.260 That's the way I feel with that book.

01:27:19.880 Like, I said 50 years.

01:27:21.080 I meant 20 minutes.

01:27:21.980 So the film is No Safe Spaces.

01:27:25.200 It is in theaters nationwide tomorrow?

01:27:27.700 Yeah, nationwide, a couple hundred theaters.

01:27:30.460 You can go to nosafespaces.com.

01:27:32.520 And, you know, I think it's a movie that if your audience who is watching, who doesn't get a lot of movies for them, so to speak, and everyone gets preaching, everything's all anti-fracking docs and everything like that, it's a little something for you.

01:27:49.360 Plus, it's definitely important, by the way, for everybody to go see it.

01:27:52.000 I'm just going to put that out there, that when people actually make films that are not catering to the hard left and directed by Elizabeth Banks, you should actually go see those films.

01:27:59.540 Especially if they're good, if they're entertaining and fun to watch.

01:28:01.780 Well, I mean, that was said when I said not by Elizabeth Banks.

01:28:03.860 That was incorporated in that.

01:28:05.480 This film is actually hilarious.

01:28:07.260 Seeing the reenactment of young Dennis Prager in his early life in Moscow.

01:28:12.600 That is worth the price of admission.

01:28:13.380 It's worth the price of admission.

01:28:14.660 And since four of the five of us at this table do star in the film, you would also be doing us a great courtesy and making Drew and Steve Lee Jones.

01:28:21.620 My name is misspelled in the thanks.

01:28:24.200 I always like to say K-L-A-V-E-N. 1.00

01:28:27.640 Perfectly appropriate.

01:28:28.600 Perfectly appropriate.

01:28:30.140 Well, we know you have a hard out.

01:28:31.280 Thanks for spending time with us.

01:28:32.260 Thank you, guys.

01:28:33.080 This was fun.

01:28:33.780 Let's do it again soon.

01:28:35.860 Yeah.

01:28:36.200 Sooner than later.

01:28:39.140 Oh, do I get up?

01:28:40.520 Oh, okay. 1.00

01:28:41.180 Let's just end this damn thing. 1.00

01:28:43.240 Pull a plug. 0.99

01:28:44.020 Thanks, everybody.

01:28:44.460 I don't want to be here.

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01:28:57.300 We are.

01:28:57.760 Yeah, with the four of us.

01:28:59.360 Even Ben's going to be in it, and he'll be in a little bit better mood once he has some more popcorn off the floor.

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