The Michael Knowles Show - May 24, 2026


＂Digital Abortion Nightmare＂ Michael Discusses Pro-Life Crisis ｜ Dan Steiner


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00:00:00.000 The fight is more bifurcated and difficult, and the billion-dollar abortion industry is more robust than it's ever been.
00:00:08.700 You know, these people are brilliant.
00:00:10.440 Now, they're going to end up alienated from God forever if they don't come to Christ, which is our prayer.
00:00:14.540 But in the meantime, we've got to rob them of their business, and that's what Preborn is here to do.
00:00:19.880 I am very, very pleased to be joined by the great Dan Steiner, the founder of Preborn.
00:00:26.980 I tell you about pre-born, I don't know, every other day or so.
00:00:30.560 This is one of my very, very favorite organizations.
00:00:33.660 Dan, thank you for coming on the show.
00:00:35.240 Wonderful to see you.
00:00:36.500 You know, I extol the virtues of pre-born every day, almost every day.
00:00:43.120 And it really, no flattery whatsoever.
00:00:46.380 This is such a great group.
00:00:48.420 I encourage people to give whatever they possibly can, especially now.
00:00:52.040 Because you think, with the overturn of Roe v. Wade, okay, this is all great.
00:00:55.280 you know we've solved abortion but we haven't actually abortions have gone up because of this
00:01:00.080 technological rise of the abortion pill and fighting back at the state level by the leftists
00:01:04.400 so what is going on in the in the pro-life fight it's it's more than you've ever heard and this is
00:01:10.180 going to be you can actually break this across the daily wire that this whole thing about the
00:01:14.780 okay so let's back up to the turning over of roe versus wade a few years ago the year after it
00:01:20.620 turned over there was 80 000 more abortions that wasn't supposed to work with all that we had hoped
00:01:24.540 for in the 50 years of praying for the overturned bro versus way turned out to not be the fact there 0.52
00:01:30.580 were more abortions after why was that because of chemical digital abortions to digital natives 0.97
00:01:35.840 millennials gen z's and alphas who get their package from amazon and their entertainment and 0.98
00:01:40.660 their friends digitally and now they get their abortion digitally and so the greatest fools in 1.00
00:01:46.300 the world i call them fools because the word of god says here on theology thursday that the fool 0.99
00:01:50.040 says in their heart, there is no God, like the Ford Foundation, the Bloomberg Foundation, 0.97
00:01:55.980 the Gates Foundation, the underwriters of global abortion had this figured out that
00:01:59.980 Roe would fall.
00:02:01.680 And so they stood up a telehealth network and they stood up chemical digital abortion.
00:02:05.260 The abortion pill, which, by the way, is a misnomer, it's not a pill, it's two pills.
00:02:09.580 You know this, Michael, it's misoprostol and misoprostol.
00:02:13.680 And so they were ready and it increased afterwards, particularly in the friendly environment
00:02:19.420 of the Biden administration, which through COVID set up mailing drugs through the U.S.
00:02:26.220 Postal Service, which is strictly, by the way, prohibited by the Comstock Act even today,
00:02:31.420 and they're still doing it.
00:02:33.080 And so then the following year, there were 100,000 more, not 80.
00:02:37.440 And then 2025, we had the highest abortion year we've had in a long time.
00:02:43.180 And so it's going the wrong way.
00:02:45.640 He said, well, but Louisiana and the fifth Supreme Court sued the FDA and McCary quit, and they're going to stop misoprostol.
00:02:54.660 Here's the revelation.
00:02:56.200 It doesn't matter.
00:02:58.420 If they were to stop the mail order of, look, let me qualify this comment.
00:03:05.580 We're the largest pro-life organizations ever existed in humanity, all right?
00:03:09.540 And I'm the chief cook and bottle washer of this puppy.
00:03:12.900 And if they stop the mailing of mifeprostol and outlaw that,
00:03:19.100 they can't be sent through the mail, it gets worse.
00:03:22.380 Let me tell you how.
00:03:24.480 Because the second drug is Cytotec, mifeprostol.
00:03:31.020 Mifeprostol kills the baby.
00:03:35.280 Mifeprostol execs the baby through dramatic uterine contraction,
00:03:39.560 sometimes even rupturing the woman's uterus that second drug cytotec is not regulated
00:03:47.320 they're ignoring it so right now i'm speaking as a clinician okay we got 100 300 of them across
00:03:57.480 the country right now the abortion industry and the um and and women are um stockpiling
00:04:07.500 the second drug yep side attack yep misprostal so that they can still have abortions because
00:04:17.800 it's not dereg it's not regulated and so it's kind of a misnomer imagine politics actually
00:04:24.020 doing something that's not relevant this is the essence of it frankly not just the fact that it's
00:04:31.080 the um art of compromise by definition but then when they do finally do something usually it
00:04:37.140 doesn't matter. And then two years later, it's turned over anyway. There's a lot more to say
00:04:40.620 first, though. Go to preborn.com slash Knowles, K-N-A-W-L-E-S. There are moments in life that 0.82
00:04:44.560 change everything instantly. Sometimes it's planned. Sometimes it's unexpected. But for a
00:04:48.760 lot of families, few moments are more emotional than finding out a new baby is on the way. And
00:04:53.620 I've done that four times now. For some women, however, that moment is not filled with excitement
00:04:58.400 right away. It's filled with fear, uncertainty, questions about whether they can handle what
00:05:02.540 comes next. That is why organizations like Preborn exist. Preborn helps connect women facing
00:05:07.340 unexpected pregnancies with support, encouragement, and free ultrasounds. That ultrasound matters more
00:05:12.340 than people realize because when a woman sees her baby and hears that heartbeat, it dramatically
00:05:16.660 increases the likelihood that she will choose life. It increases it by more than double. So
00:05:22.200 Preborn helps provide real practical support for mothers. Maternity resources, counseling, 0.87
00:05:27.280 baby supplies, diapers, clothing, and ongoing care to help women feel prepared instead of alone.
00:05:32.540 This is one of those moments where even a relatively small contribution can make a real difference.
00:05:38.240 $28 provides one ultrasound appointment.
00:05:40.520 $140 helps reach five mothers.
00:05:43.200 I personally support this organization.
00:05:44.720 I strongly encourage you to give what you can.
00:05:46.840 Those moments can change lives for both the mother and the child, really the whole family.
00:05:50.440 Get involved.
00:05:51.000 I'll pound 250, say keyword baby.
00:05:52.880 That is pound 250, keyword baby.
00:05:55.400 Or go to preborn.com slash Knowles, preborn.com slash Knowles.
00:06:00.120 Right.
00:06:00.560 I have heard the etymology of politics being poly coming from the word for many and ticks coming from the word for blood-sucking leeches.
00:06:09.580 So, you know, we don't want to have too high of a hope for political outcomes.
00:06:15.960 But this is actually worse than I expected.
00:06:20.040 Nobody knows this.
00:06:21.780 Wow.
00:06:22.860 So what do we do about it?
00:06:25.040 um we reach them online and we tell them the hazards of taking this drug and we get them in
00:06:34.000 and see their baby on ultrasound and they choose life it doubles the likelihood um so our great
00:06:38.680 endeavor michael through the wonderful listeners of the michael notion thank you if you're listening
00:06:43.380 to michael apart from the fact that we're trying to sort out whether a theologian can actually
00:06:47.340 advocate cigars apart from that fact um you guys have been champions for pre-born and together we
00:06:54.880 have saved thousands of babies, Michael. And I wanted to thank you on your show personally for
00:06:58.240 that. I haven't had a chance since I've seen you back at the Daily Wire a few years ago.
00:07:02.360 And so, well, the pleasure is all mine. And we also can, the pleasure is all mine. And I have
00:07:07.300 the easy part here, Dan, is the other thing, because, uh, you know, it, it's an easy product
00:07:12.180 to sell the product here being the opportunity, 28 bucks, 28 bucks doubles a baby's chance at life.
00:07:18.460 Everybody's got 28 bucks that they can give. And if you have more, uh, you know, it's just a great,
00:07:24.360 As far as I'm concerned, it's a great investment for a whole host of reasons,
00:07:29.880 which involve the natural world and also the supernatural order.
00:07:33.620 This is just a great way to use our money.
00:07:36.560 So anyway, I should thank the listeners too,
00:07:38.560 because the listeners are the ones who are actually doing this.
00:07:41.340 And so a crucial aspect is not just going out there and giving your money,
00:07:45.720 which is important too, but also getting the word out.
00:07:48.480 Also even recognizing how daunting the challenge is
00:07:51.480 and not to be lulled into a state of complacency because the Supreme Court overruled Roe v. Wade
00:07:56.500 and abortions went up. Yeah, that's exactly the case. And the fight is more bifurcated and
00:08:03.300 difficult. And the competition billion dollar abortion industry is more robust than it's ever
00:08:10.940 been. The abortion pill allows them to further penetrate their deadly chemical coat hanger into
00:08:17.560 every girl's mailbox in the, in the globe, frankly, in the United States, we're talking here 0.85
00:08:22.200 with lower overhead. They don't have to have a building. They don't have to have a doctor. 0.99
00:08:26.060 They don't have to pay insurance enough to pay electricity. So their profits go up and, uh,
00:08:30.700 you know, these people are brilliant. Now they're going to end up, you know, alienated from God
00:08:35.340 forever if they don't come to Christ, which is our prayer. But in the meantime, we've got to,
00:08:38.940 we've got to rob them of their business. And that's what pre-born is here to do. 1.00
00:08:42.540 and uh you guys have been champions with that and so that's kind of a uh more than you were
00:08:47.960 expecting sorry about it's a no look it's a sobering lesson and it's a crucial lesson for
00:08:53.000 people to get because i knew it i knew when the dobbs decision came down i knew it was going to
00:08:58.320 present this crazy challenge for the pro-life movement because we were kind of like the dogs
00:09:02.620 who caught the car but but that wasn't the end you know and in in many ways it it it it's not
00:09:09.820 that it didn't improve things. It did improve things from the level of constitutional jurisprudence,
00:09:13.640 but it just coincided with the challenge actually getting more daunting. So anyway,
00:09:18.620 Dan, you're doing God's work. Preborn is doing God's work. Everybody out there needs to go over
00:09:23.640 right now. Give what you can. It's a really, really great group in a world saturated by
00:09:29.740 charities and nonprofits, many of which on the left are getting USAID money to put on, I don't
00:09:36.020 know, transvestite ballets in the Philippines or something. This is really, this is a place
00:09:40.720 where you know your money is going to good work. Dan, thank you so much for coming on the show.
00:09:45.120 It's been my pleasure. Bless you, brother.