The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 102 - Nancy Pelosi and Democrat Yammering Through The Ages

00:00:00.240 Nancy Pelosi, breaking news.

00:00:03.360 Nancy Pelosi has yammered on about nothing

00:00:05.980 in order to subvert our laws

00:00:07.840 and undermine the constitutional order

00:00:09.580 for about 37 years.

00:00:11.600 Most recently speaking for eight hours and seven minutes,

00:00:14.700 setting a record for bloviating

00:00:16.580 in the House of Representatives.

00:00:18.560 We will analyze her accomplishment.

00:00:20.680 Then Liz Wheeler and Ariel Davidson

00:00:22.460 join the panel of deplorables

00:00:23.760 to discuss Donald Trump's making

00:00:25.920 the national prayer breakfast great again.

00:00:28.100 The FBI informant who says Russia paid millions

00:00:31.060 to bribe then-secretary of state Hillary Clinton

00:00:33.800 on the Uranium One deal.

00:00:35.680 And the mainstream media's breathless reporting

00:00:37.900 on some fringe racist running as a Republican for Congress

00:00:41.400 in the D plus six district he's guaranteed to lose

00:00:44.660 and in which no serious candidate

00:00:46.540 would ever waste his time and money running.

00:00:49.140 Do you see, do you see Republicans are evil?

00:00:51.140 Do you see, finally, the mailbag.

00:00:53.240 I'm Michael Knowles and this is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:58.100 So, before we get to this,

00:01:04.760 there's a lot going on.

00:01:05.660 Before we talk about this ridiculous display

00:01:07.980 that people are completely getting wrong,

00:01:09.780 they don't really understand at all

00:01:11.340 what the historical context is

00:01:13.980 for Nancy Pelosi running her mouth,

00:01:15.800 which she's been doing for decades and decades,

00:01:17.360 but she did for eight hours yesterday.

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00:05:22.340 Okay, we got a lot to get to,

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00:05:25.600 Nancy Pelosi spent all day yesterday yammering away.

00:05:28.740 Not exactly a man bites dog story,

00:05:30.840 but she set a record for the longest speech

00:05:32.880 in the chamber's history.

00:05:33.800 What was she talking about?

00:05:35.380 Well, it must have had something to do

00:05:36.880 with the topics Americans really care about, right?

00:05:39.360 The economy, government corruption,

00:05:41.440 after all those damning FBI texts

00:05:43.500 from the Obama administration,

00:05:45.300 the evidence that Russia paid off Hillary Clinton

00:05:47.340 as Secretary of State.

00:05:48.400 Maybe it was about healthcare reform,

00:05:49.960 law and order, terrorism, right?

00:05:51.560 Something like that?

00:05:52.480 No, take it away, Nancy.

00:05:54.240 As members of Congress,

00:05:55.600 we have a moral responsibility to act now

00:05:58.060 to protect dreamers who are the pride of our nation

00:06:00.500 and are American in every way, but on paper.

00:06:03.180 Our young people are our future,

00:06:06.160 and these dreamers are part of that.

00:06:08.960 No, of course, that's what it was about.

00:06:10.520 On the contrary to anything that matters,

00:06:12.640 despite nearly 70% of Americans,

00:06:15.100 according to a morning consult Politico poll,

00:06:17.920 saying amnesty for illegal aliens

00:06:20.540 should not be a priority for Congress,

00:06:22.840 despite even the majority of Democrats

00:06:24.900 saying that amnesty for illegal aliens

00:06:26.980 should not be a priority,

00:06:28.300 Nancy spoke for over eight hours

00:06:30.460 about how we need to subvert the rule of law

00:06:32.480 and give amnesty to between 1.8 million

00:06:35.620 and 3.6 million people.

00:06:37.780 According to Pelosi,

00:06:39.160 illegal aliens brought here under 18,

00:06:41.300 some of whom are 40 years old now,

00:06:44.200 they are the pride of our nation, she says.

00:06:46.120 Half of them don't speak English,

00:06:47.740 a quarter of them can't read,

00:06:49.240 but they're American in every way

00:06:51.380 except on paper and except all the other ways.

00:06:53.520 She is right when she says

00:06:55.360 that these illegal aliens

00:06:56.560 who were brought here under 18 are our future,

00:06:59.880 but we've got to be careful of the word our.

00:07:02.320 By our, she doesn't mean Americans.

00:07:04.500 We think she means Americans, she doesn't.

00:07:06.280 By our, she means Democrats.

00:07:08.440 Few research indicates that 75 to 90%

00:07:11.500 of the so-called dreamers,

00:07:13.840 if given amnesty, would vote for Democrats.

00:07:16.280 What a dream indeed.

00:07:17.420 1.8 million people on the low end,

00:07:19.280 3.6 million on the high end.

00:07:20.800 That's what this is all about.

00:07:22.100 That's why Nancy Pelosi is so impassioned.

00:07:24.540 She won't get impassioned

00:07:25.360 about people losing their health insurance.

00:07:27.040 She won't get impassioned

00:07:27.980 about people losing their jobs.

00:07:29.620 She can't, she doesn't care less about that.

00:07:31.640 She gets impassioned

00:07:33.360 about getting millions of new voters.

00:07:35.520 That's what this is all about,

00:07:37.080 destroying the Republican Party forever.

00:07:39.120 She's so passionate about that.

00:07:40.380 She broke 109 year record

00:07:42.820 and spoke for a full work day to see it through.

00:07:46.060 Let us thank and acknowledge the dreamers

00:07:48.800 for their courage, their optimism,

00:07:50.640 their inspiration to make America more American.

00:07:56.920 Make America more American.

00:07:58.860 Half of the group doesn't speak English

00:08:00.320 in a court or can't read.

00:08:01.680 Amnesty would make America more Latin American.

00:08:03.840 It would make America more left-wing.

00:08:05.600 It would make America less free

00:08:07.280 by subverting democratically enacted immigration law

00:08:11.060 and telling a free people

00:08:12.280 that they have no right to run their own country,

00:08:14.380 that they have no right to expect law and order,

00:08:17.000 the rule of law in their country.

00:08:18.180 Now, unsurprisingly, the wind-blowing record she broke

00:08:21.220 belonged to another Democrat,

00:08:22.700 a man named Champ Clark, 1909.

00:08:25.560 Although back then, the Republicans had the good sense

00:08:27.840 to interrupt this sort of nonsense.

00:08:30.140 So given that, it's unclear if his speech

00:08:32.620 actually held any record.

00:08:34.720 In true Democrat fashion,

00:08:36.660 he was speaking against tax reform,

00:08:38.820 a tariff overhaul that gained steam earlier,

00:08:41.400 the year earlier.

00:08:42.340 And he wasn't all that bad, actually.

00:08:43.820 I looked into Champ a little bit.

00:08:45.780 Apparently Champ fought Woodrow Wilson

00:08:48.100 for the Democrat nomination of 1912.

00:08:51.060 He opposed the Federal Reserve

00:08:52.240 and he wanted to annex Canada,

00:08:54.520 saying, quote,

00:08:55.620 I look forward to the time

00:08:56.800 when the American flag will fly

00:08:58.240 over every square foot of British North America

00:09:01.520 up to the North Pole.

00:09:03.340 So, yeah, pretty good, actually.

00:09:04.520 A mixed bag, not altogether a bad guy.

00:09:06.740 I'm sorry that his record got broken.

00:09:09.060 There's another aspect to this.

00:09:11.260 Isn't it a little bit strange

00:09:12.500 that we don't have great records

00:09:13.940 for these House speeches?

00:09:15.680 You know, we think Pelosi's

00:09:17.100 is the longest since 1909.

00:09:18.660 We're not really quite sure.

00:09:20.340 We don't see these hours-long speeches

00:09:22.480 very much in the House.

00:09:24.000 That's because they don't serve any purpose.

00:09:25.960 I know it seems like they serve purpose.

00:09:27.460 We see things like this in the Senate.

00:09:29.220 But they don't serve a purpose.

00:09:30.420 They call attention to some issue, maybe.

00:09:32.240 But there's no practical purpose.

00:09:34.000 The Senate has a filibuster.

00:09:35.540 The House does not.

00:09:36.780 Even if the House did have a filibuster,

00:09:39.140 Pelosi did it wrong.

00:09:40.760 The filibuster is a tactic

00:09:42.160 wherein a politician indulges

00:09:44.080 his favorite melody,

00:09:45.100 the sound of his own voice,

00:09:46.160 for long periods of time

00:09:47.680 to delay or entirely prevent

00:09:50.180 a decision to be made

00:09:51.940 on a given proposal.

00:09:53.200 So you'll remember

00:09:54.120 Ted Cruz did this in 2013.

00:09:56.040 Ted Cruz's 2013 filibuster

00:09:57.680 was to delay the decision

00:09:59.800 to fund Obamacare.

00:10:01.780 The House actually did have a filibuster

00:10:03.860 until 1842,

00:10:05.700 at which point a permanent rule

00:10:07.260 limiting the duration of debate

00:10:08.640 was created.

00:10:09.240 This is because the House

00:10:10.300 got too large.

00:10:11.680 So the original size

00:10:12.820 of the House of Representatives

00:10:13.820 was just 65 people.

00:10:15.580 Today there are 435 representatives

00:10:17.680 in the House.

00:10:18.380 If the filibuster were allowed

00:10:19.600 in the House,

00:10:20.060 nothing would ever get done

00:10:21.460 even less than is now.

00:10:23.260 But this is what we get

00:10:24.560 out of a shallow

00:10:25.220 and superficial culture.

00:10:27.080 We don't get a real filibuster

00:10:28.520 about a real issue

00:10:29.460 that affects real Americans.

00:10:31.300 Instead, we get a fake filibuster

00:10:33.620 about a glib euphemism

00:10:35.360 like Dreamers

00:10:36.160 that only pertains

00:10:37.300 to non-Americans.

00:10:38.760 We get the appearance

00:10:39.760 of serious governance

00:10:40.780 without any actual seriousness.

00:10:43.540 She didn't even do

00:10:44.580 the filibuster right.

00:10:46.140 What she should want

00:10:46.900 is not to delay a vote.

00:10:48.220 She'd want to vote right now.

00:10:49.760 She didn't even do it right.

00:10:51.660 All of this we got

00:10:52.660 to benefit Democrat politicians

00:10:54.480 and foreign nationals.

00:10:55.760 Is it any wonder

00:10:56.880 that Make America Great Again

00:10:58.120 resounded with voters?

00:11:00.040 Absolutely not.

00:11:01.120 We've got to bring on our panel

00:11:02.160 to talk about the news.

00:11:03.720 And we've got OAN's

00:11:05.700 Liz Wheeler here.

00:11:06.620 We've got Ariel Davidson.

00:11:08.400 And before we get to that though,

00:11:10.220 I do have to acknowledge this.

00:11:11.840 You might see this.

00:11:12.420 This is on my desk.

00:11:13.960 I got some nice

00:11:14.620 beautiful flowers here.

00:11:16.160 I didn't know

00:11:16.960 who they were from.

00:11:17.660 I assume they were

00:11:18.240 from Sweet Little Elisa.

00:11:19.340 That absolutely not.

00:11:20.360 Not a chance.

00:11:21.460 And I saw,

00:11:22.060 I got a card from Drew.

00:11:24.020 And it was a little card.

00:11:25.120 Drew sent me these flowers

00:11:26.320 obviously to apologize

00:11:28.300 for every single weekend

00:11:30.560 for the last two to three years.

00:11:32.600 He has ruined my weekend.

00:11:34.060 Every time he made me watch

00:11:35.460 Barry,

00:11:36.480 the Barack Obama movie.

00:11:37.540 He made me watch

00:11:38.000 South Side with you.

00:11:39.520 I've had to go to

00:11:40.060 women's marches.

00:11:41.120 Being a cultural correspondent

00:11:42.400 on his show

00:11:43.040 has been really,

00:11:44.400 really tough.

00:11:45.220 It's that one moment

00:11:47.220 of solace,

00:11:48.020 you know,

00:11:48.180 the weekend.

00:11:48.920 He's just destroyed

00:11:49.660 every time.

00:11:50.260 So I want to thank Drew

00:11:51.040 for the lovely roses.

00:11:52.540 It's very sweet of you.

00:11:53.760 You know,

00:11:54.160 a girl always likes

00:11:54.780 to get roses.

00:11:55.760 And these came

00:11:56.780 from 1-800-Flowers.

00:11:58.140 So living dangerously

00:12:00.160 can be a thrill

00:12:00.740 but waiting until

00:12:01.520 the last minute

00:12:02.320 to purchase

00:12:03.040 a Valentine's gift,

00:12:04.260 that is playing with fire.

00:12:05.680 That's why Drew knows

00:12:06.680 to get these early,

00:12:07.980 earlier than I have.

00:12:08.800 I have to get some now too

00:12:09.680 for sweet little Elisa.

00:12:11.080 So don't delay.

00:12:12.620 Go to 1-800-Flowers.com.

00:12:14.800 That's 1-800-Flowers.

00:12:16.260 It always has your back

00:12:17.040 in these tough situations.

00:12:18.240 Right now you can get

00:12:19.080 18 enchanted roses.

00:12:21.060 I am enchanted.

00:12:22.100 Drew has enchanted me

00:12:23.100 with these roses

00:12:23.640 for only $29.99.

00:12:25.920 That's actually,

00:12:26.340 that is a really good deal.

00:12:27.140 I send flowers around

00:12:28.060 a fair bit.

00:12:29.020 I have family

00:12:29.920 all over the country

00:12:30.680 and I'll send flowers sometimes.

00:12:32.440 That is a great deal.

00:12:34.280 18 enchanted roses

00:12:35.300 for only $29.99.

00:12:37.780 Go to 1-800-Flowers.com.

00:12:39.780 And I guess you've got

00:12:40.380 to use the code

00:12:40.920 KLAVAN,

00:12:41.660 K-L-A-V-A-N.

00:12:43.100 He gave me the flowers

00:12:43.980 so you should use

00:12:44.560 his promo code.

00:12:45.480 Keep the lights on in there.

00:12:46.740 1-800-Flowers.com

00:12:48.140 promo code KLAVAN.

00:12:50.280 Order it today.

00:12:51.480 All right.

00:12:51.820 Thank you, Drew.

00:12:52.420 That was very,

00:12:52.960 very sweet of you.

00:12:54.020 Excellent.

00:12:54.620 Ladies,

00:12:55.120 thank you very much

00:12:55.880 for being here.

00:12:56.460 This is really nice.

00:12:57.520 You know,

00:12:57.900 after a bald man

00:13:00.120 from the next room

00:13:00.860 gave me my Valentine's flowers,

00:13:02.460 it's nice to see your face.

00:13:03.660 This is balancing

00:13:04.260 things out a little bit.

00:13:05.620 Thank you for being here.

00:13:06.700 Today is the national

00:13:07.460 prayer breakfast.

00:13:08.700 Trump's comments

00:13:09.580 at the prayer breakfast,

00:13:10.960 President Trump's comments

00:13:11.660 include,

00:13:12.020 We can all be heroes

00:13:13.380 to everybody

00:13:13.860 and they can be heroes

00:13:14.660 to us as long as

00:13:15.440 we open our hearts

00:13:16.200 to God's grace.

00:13:17.700 America will be free,

00:13:18.900 the land of the free,

00:13:19.640 the home of the brave,

00:13:20.300 and the light to all nations.

00:13:22.040 America is a nation

00:13:22.900 of believers

00:13:23.400 and together we are strengthened

00:13:24.940 by the power of prayer.

00:13:26.600 Our rights are not

00:13:27.460 given to us by men.

00:13:28.440 Our rights are given

00:13:29.060 to us from our creator.

00:13:30.520 No matter what,

00:13:31.240 no earthly force

00:13:32.140 can take those rights away.

00:13:33.800 Compare those comments

00:13:34.560 with Nancy Pelosi

00:13:35.380 a few years ago.

00:13:39.060 13, 15, and 17.

00:13:40.900 We know that this message,

00:13:43.680 this command of love,

00:13:45.200 is not confined

00:13:46.300 to the New Testament.

00:13:48.540 The same message

00:13:49.500 stands at the center

00:13:50.520 of the Torah

00:13:51.260 and the teachings

00:13:52.680 of the Prophet Muhammad, too.

00:13:55.080 From the Torah,

00:13:56.520 it says,

00:13:57.780 Love your neighbor

00:13:58.440 as yourself.

00:14:01.180 And from Muhammad,

00:14:02.700 None of you has faith

00:14:03.840 until he loves

00:14:05.400 for his brother

00:14:06.300 or his neighbor

00:14:07.120 what he loves

00:14:08.320 for himself.

00:14:09.460 Do you ever notice

00:14:10.820 these Democrats,

00:14:11.660 they always call Muhammad

00:14:13.080 the Prophet Muhammad

00:14:14.440 as though he,

00:14:15.180 well, I don't think

00:14:15.760 he's the Prophet.

00:14:16.780 Most people on Earth

00:14:17.700 don't think he's the Prophet.

00:14:18.940 They don't refer to

00:14:19.760 the Messiah Jesus,

00:14:21.140 do they?

00:14:22.340 How about after that,

00:14:24.260 Barack Obama's obtuse

00:14:25.900 and historically ignorant

00:14:27.300 babbling

00:14:27.780 at the prayer breakfast

00:14:28.620 himself?

00:14:30.740 Unless we get on

00:14:33.200 our high horse

00:14:33.920 and think this is

00:14:34.920 unique to some other place,

00:14:37.580 remember that during

00:14:38.820 the Crusades

00:14:39.540 and the Inquisition,

00:14:40.700 people committed

00:14:41.380 terrible deeds

00:14:42.420 in the name of Christ.

00:14:45.480 So we'll get to that

00:14:47.040 in a bit

00:14:47.420 because also nonsense.

00:14:48.680 Liz, so many

00:14:49.260 on the religious right

00:14:50.260 have held Donald Trump

00:14:51.760 at arm's length

00:14:52.580 because he joked

00:14:53.600 with Billy Bush

00:14:54.440 about things

00:14:55.080 that he likes to grab

00:14:56.260 and he's lived

00:14:57.220 sort of a tabloid lifestyle.

00:14:59.220 Should Christians

00:14:59.800 in America

00:15:00.400 embrace President Covfefe?

00:15:03.420 Okay, a couple of things.

00:15:04.740 First of all,

00:15:05.980 I did some research

00:15:06.900 and I hope we're allowed

00:15:07.700 to disagree with you

00:15:08.500 on this show.

00:15:09.280 No, never once.

00:15:11.440 I don't know

00:15:12.180 if evangelicals

00:15:13.220 actually have held

00:15:14.120 President Trump

00:15:14.760 at arm's length here.

00:15:16.200 If you look at Pew Research,

00:15:17.660 they did a survey

00:15:19.200 of evangelical voters.

00:15:21.080 This was mid-year last year,

00:15:22.640 about six months

00:15:23.320 into the Trump presidency.

00:15:24.800 They found that

00:15:25.340 over 75%

00:15:26.580 of evangelical voters

00:15:28.060 supported President Trump.

00:15:29.700 Now, you might remember

00:15:30.700 hearing on the mainstream media

00:15:32.100 that evangelical voters

00:15:33.340 were starting to distance

00:15:36.000 themselves from the president,

00:15:37.300 that they weren't

00:15:38.160 as supportive as they were

00:15:39.280 when they cast their vote

00:15:40.200 for him.

00:15:40.840 That was propagated

00:15:41.780 by Newsweek magazine

00:15:43.940 who did a survey

00:15:45.960 in which they use,

00:15:46.820 in my opinion,

00:15:47.260 very biased wording

00:15:48.700 for their questions.

00:15:49.780 They didn't ask

00:15:50.440 about the policies

00:15:51.640 that Trump was pushing.

00:15:54.020 They asked if voters,

00:15:55.760 if these evangelicals

00:15:56.920 would support President Trump

00:15:59.260 no matter what.

00:16:00.480 of course they got,

00:16:02.000 of course they got a response

00:16:03.100 that said only 30%

00:16:04.800 would support the president

00:16:05.540 no matter what.

00:16:06.680 It's a great question though.

00:16:07.660 Should Christians,

00:16:08.500 should we as Christians,

00:16:09.460 I'm not saying you're telling

00:16:10.200 other Christians what to do.

00:16:11.280 I am telling them what to do,

00:16:12.500 but I'm sorry.

00:16:13.000 No, I'm about to.

00:16:15.100 I'm just gearing up for it.

00:16:16.640 Yes, I think Christians

00:16:17.380 should support President Trump

00:16:18.860 because all we have to do

00:16:19.940 is look at the policies

00:16:21.820 that he's implemented.

00:16:23.020 We just have to look

00:16:23.660 at the comparison.

00:16:25.200 Which party right now

00:16:26.200 in our country

00:16:26.700 is offering protection

00:16:28.120 for unborn babies

00:16:29.520 offering to treat

00:16:31.260 unborn babies

00:16:32.200 like the people

00:16:33.000 that they are

00:16:33.720 and which party

00:16:34.740 is saying,

00:16:35.320 no, look,

00:16:35.720 you have a right to

00:16:37.100 and we should celebrate

00:16:38.040 that right

00:16:38.740 to rip these babies

00:16:39.780 limb from limb.

00:16:40.900 That's the Republican party

00:16:41.860 that's offering

00:16:42.320 their limbs

00:16:42.760 and sell their organs.

00:16:44.200 Don't forget that part.

00:16:45.280 There is a market

00:16:46.020 incentive to it.

00:16:48.340 Right, but it's not

00:16:49.380 just abortion.

00:16:50.040 We can look at

00:16:50.480 any of our rights,

00:16:52.080 our God-given rights

00:16:53.060 that President Trump

00:16:53.800 was talking about

00:16:54.700 and we can ask ourselves

00:16:56.320 which party,

00:16:56.960 which president

00:16:57.540 has protected that.

00:16:58.700 Well, our First Amendment

00:16:59.500 right to free speech,

00:17:01.000 President Trump's

00:17:01.560 protected that.

00:17:02.440 Our First Amendment

00:17:03.020 right to practice

00:17:03.780 our religion

00:17:04.320 the way that we deem best,

00:17:05.720 not the way

00:17:06.040 the government deems best.

00:17:07.460 President Trump

00:17:08.020 has already put

00:17:08.820 protections into place.

00:17:10.260 The Hobby Lobby ruling,

00:17:11.740 appointing Supreme Court

00:17:12.540 Justice Neil Gorsuch,

00:17:14.220 ruling back

00:17:14.800 the contraceptive mandate,

00:17:16.400 our right to protect ourselves,

00:17:17.840 our Second Amendment rights,

00:17:18.860 our families,

00:17:19.840 to bear arms,

00:17:20.840 President Trump

00:17:21.360 has protected that.

00:17:22.620 Everything that he's done

00:17:24.180 has been a protection,

00:17:25.800 or just about everything

00:17:26.500 he's done,

00:17:27.160 has been a protection

00:17:28.000 for our God-given rights.

00:17:30.160 So, of course,

00:17:31.200 no excuses for his character,

00:17:32.580 his bad behavior,

00:17:33.340 but yeah,

00:17:33.640 as a Christian,

00:17:34.060 I support President Trump.

00:17:35.100 That sounds right to me, Liz.

00:17:36.820 And, you know,

00:17:37.560 I do notice in the Bible,

00:17:39.320 with the exception of one man,

00:17:41.260 just about everybody

00:17:42.320 that God uses

00:17:43.200 for good purposes

00:17:44.120 is maybe a little flawed,

00:17:45.920 maybe even more flawed

00:17:46.880 than the sort of fellow

00:17:48.000 who jokes around

00:17:48.600 with Billy Bush.

00:17:49.520 And a lot of good things

00:17:50.620 came out of that, too.

00:17:51.540 That is absolutely right.

00:17:52.760 And you're right,

00:17:53.520 evangelical Christians,

00:17:55.020 despite ridiculous fake polling,

00:17:57.040 have supported President Trump,

00:17:58.480 much more so than Catholics

00:17:59.620 and mainline Protestants.

00:18:01.620 So that is certainly

00:18:02.260 a point in their corner.

00:18:03.760 Ariel,

00:18:04.780 American politicians

00:18:05.700 have for decades

00:18:06.920 extolled the alleged virtues

00:18:08.860 of Islam

00:18:09.580 and multiculturalism,

00:18:11.040 while they flagellate Christians

00:18:12.580 for a defensive war

00:18:14.280 that took place

00:18:14.900 800 years ago,

00:18:15.840 about which they know

00:18:16.640 absolutely nothing.

00:18:17.700 Should American politicians

00:18:19.260 be less multiculti

00:18:20.840 and more vocally Christian?

00:18:22.940 Well, I have two points

00:18:23.740 to make on that.

00:18:24.500 So I want to backtrack

00:18:25.540 a bit to Obama's comments.

00:18:27.840 I actually didn't have

00:18:28.780 a huge problem

00:18:29.420 with Pelosi's comments,

00:18:30.600 but Obama's comments

00:18:31.560 at the 2015 prayer breakfast

00:18:33.420 really got to me

00:18:34.400 in the sense that,

00:18:35.660 you know,

00:18:35.900 this is a long,

00:18:36.720 this follows a long thread

00:18:39.000 of sort of putting down

00:18:41.940 the idea of American exceptionalism

00:18:43.520 or sort of shifting blame

00:18:45.000 onto America.

00:18:46.140 And so baked into

00:18:47.580 the left's idea

00:18:48.680 of multiculturalism

00:18:49.840 is at the same time

00:18:50.940 juxtaposed with

00:18:52.160 putting down America

00:18:53.460 in some way

00:18:54.160 and putting down

00:18:55.440 sort of,

00:18:56.200 you know,

00:18:57.000 majority Christian nation.

00:18:58.780 And that to me

00:18:59.600 is what's wrong.

00:19:00.420 What I would appreciate seeing

00:19:01.760 is actually along the lines

00:19:03.020 of what Pelosi

00:19:03.580 was trying to say,

00:19:04.500 I think,

00:19:05.400 was celebrating

00:19:06.280 religious freedom in America,

00:19:07.600 which has always been

00:19:08.560 the crux of religious liberty

00:19:10.800 in America,

00:19:11.400 is celebrating the idea

00:19:12.280 that you can practice

00:19:13.120 your religion freely,

00:19:14.580 whatever your religion may be.

00:19:16.420 And I don't think

00:19:17.120 that needs to be,

00:19:17.980 in fact,

00:19:18.360 I think we should be

00:19:19.160 celebrating the idea

00:19:20.660 that we're united

00:19:21.440 by this devotion

00:19:22.760 to protecting religious freedom.

00:19:24.280 That should be

00:19:24.940 what unites us.

00:19:25.960 I think that,

00:19:26.980 and that message

00:19:27.820 got very,

00:19:28.720 very polluted

00:19:29.420 and lost,

00:19:30.360 particularly by Obama

00:19:32.680 when he made a mission

00:19:34.080 to show that,

00:19:34.780 you know,

00:19:35.280 American exceptionalism,

00:19:36.760 America's not as exceptional

00:19:37.920 as you think it is.

00:19:39.300 No,

00:19:39.560 I think America

00:19:40.160 is wonderfully exceptional.

00:19:41.300 I think,

00:19:41.540 and what makes us exceptional

00:19:42.580 is that we do

00:19:43.400 give everyone the right

00:19:44.600 to practice their religion freely

00:19:45.920 as long as they're not

00:19:46.680 harming others in the process.

00:19:48.600 And so,

00:19:49.020 for me,

00:19:49.400 I actually,

00:19:50.360 you know,

00:19:50.600 I took greater issue

00:19:51.540 with Obama's comments

00:19:53.220 because I think,

00:19:54.380 you know,

00:19:54.640 his,

00:19:55.020 and if we go back

00:19:56.100 further into his speech,

00:19:57.620 his response

00:19:58.260 was actually

00:19:58.940 directly related

00:20:00.660 to sort of

00:20:01.960 trying to equalize,

00:20:03.600 you know,

00:20:04.040 radical Islamic terror

00:20:05.020 by saying,

00:20:05.600 now wait a minute,

00:20:06.260 you know,

00:20:06.400 the Inquisitions

00:20:07.160 and the Crusades

00:20:07.880 were done in the name

00:20:08.540 of Christ.

00:20:09.560 And I think

00:20:10.260 that's just

00:20:10.620 completely inappropriate.

00:20:11.960 It's the wrong setting

00:20:12.920 to be doing that.

00:20:14.180 And the reality is,

00:20:15.140 is that,

00:20:15.480 you know,

00:20:15.680 radical Islamic terror

00:20:16.700 is what we are facing

00:20:17.560 right now as a nation.

00:20:18.380 And I would argue

00:20:18.980 the greatest national security threat

00:20:21.140 that we are facing

00:20:21.920 as a whole.

00:20:22.440 It's not only tone deaf.

00:20:24.100 He also just

00:20:25.280 misunderstands

00:20:26.300 what he's talking about.

00:20:27.460 I don't think the man

00:20:28.160 knows anything

00:20:28.920 about the Crusades.

00:20:30.000 I don't think he knows

00:20:30.840 anything about the Inquisition.

00:20:32.500 I think he's heard

00:20:33.360 these buzzwords

00:20:34.180 and our country

00:20:35.560 at the moment

00:20:36.340 is very lightly educated.

00:20:38.280 I think at some point

00:20:39.060 I'll have to do a show

00:20:40.040 on the Crusades

00:20:41.100 and on the Inquisition

00:20:42.000 because nobody,

00:20:43.040 if you read like

00:20:43.840 one book about this,

00:20:45.260 I think you know more

00:20:46.220 than 99.99%

00:20:48.920 of people in the world.

00:20:49.980 It's very frustrating

00:20:50.960 and tone deaf.

00:20:51.960 And of course,

00:20:52.560 President Obama

00:20:53.520 would constantly

00:20:54.780 gloss over

00:20:57.180 the issues

00:20:58.120 of Islam,

00:20:59.380 a religion

00:20:59.880 that has inspired

00:21:01.180 attack against the West

00:21:02.740 for 1,400 years,

00:21:04.360 and he would glide

00:21:05.280 over those.

00:21:06.080 And he would harp

00:21:07.260 on any evil

00:21:08.820 that was ever done

00:21:09.640 by someone

00:21:10.080 who called himself

00:21:10.680 a Christian.

00:21:11.580 Totally tone deaf

00:21:12.960 and it's a really nice

00:21:14.120 shift that I've seen.

00:21:15.120 All right, ladies,

00:21:15.540 we've got to move.

00:21:15.960 We've got to keep

00:21:16.440 flying through this.

00:21:17.300 An FBI informant

00:21:18.340 named Douglas Campbell

00:21:19.540 has informed

00:21:20.600 three congressional committees

00:21:21.800 that Russia paid

00:21:22.980 millions of dollars

00:21:23.980 to a U.S. lobbying firm

00:21:25.200 to bribe

00:21:25.920 then-Secretary of State

00:21:26.820 Hillary Clinton

00:21:27.400 by helping her husband's

00:21:28.720 foundation

00:21:29.120 during the Obama administration.

00:21:31.100 Liz,

00:21:31.480 we have Barack Obama

00:21:32.480 on a hot mic

00:21:33.180 saying that he will

00:21:33.760 give Russia leeway

00:21:34.660 after his election,

00:21:35.860 that he just had to

00:21:36.440 lie to voters

00:21:37.080 to pretend

00:21:37.680 to take a strong

00:21:38.860 stance on Russia.

00:21:39.760 We have Hillary Clinton

00:21:41.060 apparently being bribed

00:21:42.360 by Russia

00:21:42.860 while Secretary of State.

00:21:44.460 And Democrats

00:21:44.940 have spent a year

00:21:45.920 and change

00:21:46.860 accusing Donald Trump

00:21:48.200 of being a Manchurian

00:21:49.380 candidate for Vladimir Putin

00:21:51.080 because some Russian

00:21:52.460 ran a Facebook ad

00:21:53.400 or something.

00:21:54.200 Are Democrats

00:21:54.780 accusing Republicans

00:21:56.200 of colluding with Russia

00:21:57.680 explicitly to cover up

00:21:59.520 their own collusion

00:22:00.460 with Russia?

00:22:01.780 Well, of course they are.

00:22:02.800 That's Saul Alinsky's.

00:22:03.700 That's one of his principles.

00:22:04.860 You accuse your opponent

00:22:06.260 of doing what you were doing

00:22:07.800 in order to create

00:22:08.720 confusion.

00:22:11.100 It's like little kids

00:22:11.840 if they get into a fight.

00:22:13.140 The one little kid

00:22:13.680 is going to run to his mother

00:22:14.480 and be like,

00:22:15.240 Mom, he hit me.

00:22:16.480 Well, the other kid

00:22:17.020 is going to be like,

00:22:17.440 Nuh-uh, he hit me.

00:22:18.860 The first person's accusation

00:22:20.100 is going to carry

00:22:20.700 more credibility.

00:22:21.520 The second one

00:22:21.960 sounds like a copycat

00:22:23.020 even if that person

00:22:24.220 is lying.

00:22:25.100 The funny thing

00:22:25.740 to me here too

00:22:26.720 is that Barack Obama

00:22:27.620 was the one

00:22:28.140 who was condescending

00:22:30.460 and skeptical.

00:22:31.740 He made fun

00:22:32.260 of Mitt Romney

00:22:32.940 in 2012

00:22:33.540 for saying that Russia

00:22:34.480 was our number one

00:22:35.380 geopolitical foe.

00:22:36.720 Well, who's laughing

00:22:37.600 last now?

00:22:38.620 I mean, we can see

00:22:39.560 this case,

00:22:40.580 but this story

00:22:41.420 is funny to me too

00:22:42.260 because we already knew

00:22:43.940 that this was happening.

00:22:45.200 We already knew

00:22:46.040 that the Russians

00:22:47.120 had tried to infiltrate

00:22:49.320 Hillary and Bill Clinton,

00:22:50.640 their organization,

00:22:51.480 Hillary at the State Department,

00:22:52.800 that they had corrupted

00:22:54.100 nuclear entities

00:22:55.700 in the United States,

00:22:57.140 including that

00:22:57.820 nuclear trucking company,

00:22:59.660 that they had bribed

00:23:00.860 and given kickbacks

00:23:01.940 to nuclear entities

00:23:04.300 in the United States

00:23:05.100 in order to try

00:23:05.720 to infiltrate

00:23:06.380 and get our nuclear secrets

00:23:07.720 to try to influence that,

00:23:09.520 which led,

00:23:10.500 as convoluted as it sounds,

00:23:11.840 to the Uranium One deal.

00:23:12.880 So I don't know

00:23:13.760 why we're acting

00:23:14.340 so surprised

00:23:15.100 that the Russians

00:23:16.160 are trying to steal

00:23:17.200 things from us

00:23:17.940 and I definitely don't know

00:23:19.340 why we're acting surprised

00:23:20.120 that Hillary Clinton

00:23:20.740 is somewhere in the middle

00:23:21.540 of this.

00:23:22.080 Of course, of course.

00:23:23.180 And Ariel,

00:23:23.720 this leads to the

00:23:24.400 inevitable question,

00:23:25.840 should anybody

00:23:26.520 in that Clinton orbit

00:23:27.480 go to jail?

00:23:28.180 And I don't think

00:23:28.660 it's as simple

00:23:29.160 as it seems.

00:23:30.060 On the one hand,

00:23:30.660 of course they should.

00:23:31.340 On the other hand,

00:23:32.900 do we really want

00:23:33.680 to set the precedent

00:23:34.640 of seeing failed

00:23:36.160 presidential candidates

00:23:37.180 and their cronies

00:23:38.020 go to the clink

00:23:38.960 even if they deserve it?

00:23:40.960 I think it's sort of irrelevant

00:23:42.400 if they're presidential

00:23:43.420 candidates or not

00:23:44.300 because I think

00:23:44.920 as soon as you start

00:23:45.880 subverting the law

00:23:48.300 in order to keep the peace,

00:23:50.720 I think that sort of

00:23:51.620 is counterintuitive

00:23:52.480 and I actually think

00:23:53.300 it achieves

00:23:53.720 the opposite result

00:23:54.580 because it shows

00:23:55.360 that if you are

00:23:56.380 powerful enough,

00:23:57.220 if you are even

00:23:57.900 a failed presidential candidate,

00:23:59.740 no matter what

00:24:00.520 your past transgressions are,

00:24:01.980 you can sort of

00:24:02.700 be sure that you

00:24:03.800 can evade prosecution.

00:24:05.000 I don't think

00:24:05.420 that's a good

00:24:05.800 precedence to set at all.

00:24:06.860 I think irrespective

00:24:08.140 of whether you're

00:24:09.400 an everyday citizen

00:24:10.760 who is not

00:24:12.180 in the public sector

00:24:12.960 or if you are

00:24:14.100 someone with

00:24:14.540 tremendous clout

00:24:15.360 in the public sector,

00:24:17.040 I think we shall

00:24:17.620 be treated equally

00:24:18.420 in the eyes of the law.

00:24:19.580 So in my mind,

00:24:20.740 it really doesn't

00:24:21.380 make a difference

00:24:21.940 if you are somebody

00:24:23.100 who has the political

00:24:24.300 clout of the Clintons.

00:24:25.400 And I think that

00:24:27.100 you should uphold

00:24:28.300 your duty

00:24:29.020 as an American citizen

00:24:29.920 to obey the law.

00:24:31.720 Ariel, you've made me

00:24:32.600 feel so much better.

00:24:33.500 I was second-guessing myself.

00:24:35.120 I thought,

00:24:35.620 do I need to advocate

00:24:36.820 that we don't

00:24:37.600 send Hillary to prison?

00:24:38.980 And then you've opened

00:24:40.740 my eyes and my heart again.

00:24:42.100 Thank you very much.

00:24:42.780 I appreciate that.

00:24:43.540 Ladies, we have more news

00:24:44.420 to talk about,

00:24:45.060 but we're just running up

00:24:46.160 against the time today.

00:24:47.220 So unfortunately,

00:24:48.180 I have to say goodbye to you.

00:24:49.520 If it were up to me,

00:24:50.580 I would never say goodbye to you.

00:24:51.800 I would have you on

00:24:52.440 for the whole show.

00:24:53.080 I would never have flowers

00:24:54.600 from Andrew Klavan,

00:24:55.480 but that's the way it goes.

00:24:56.800 Thank you both for being here.

00:24:58.180 Liz Wheeler from OAN

00:24:59.480 and Ariel Davidson.

00:25:01.440 Ladies, I will see you next time.

00:25:03.900 Happy Valentine's Day.

00:25:04.800 Maybe I'll see you before then.

00:25:06.020 Okay, we've got to get

00:25:06.620 to the mailbag.

00:25:07.260 But before we get

00:25:07.820 to the mailbag,

00:25:08.680 sorry folks,

00:25:09.360 if you're on Facebook

00:25:09.880 or YouTube,

00:25:11.160 you've got to go

00:25:12.060 to dailywire.com.

00:25:13.220 I know.

00:25:13.900 Well, you're probably

00:25:14.300 not on YouTube

00:25:14.840 because they censor

00:25:15.600 everything we do,

00:25:16.400 but you might be on Facebook.

00:25:17.680 If you go to dailywire.com,

00:25:18.740 what do you get?

00:25:19.300 You get me,

00:25:19.820 you get the Andrew Klavan show,

00:25:20.620 you get the Ben Shapiro show,

00:25:21.460 you get the conversation.

00:25:22.880 We released a saucy promo

00:25:24.040 for that today.

00:25:25.140 You might want to have

00:25:25.740 some eye bleach on hand

00:25:27.140 depending on how

00:25:28.960 you're watching it.

00:25:30.360 And so you get that.

00:25:31.820 You get the conversation.

00:25:32.600 You get to ask questions

00:25:33.260 in the mailbag.

00:25:33.860 You get to ask questions

00:25:34.540 in the conversation.

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00:25:51.340 Featuring the swarthiest

00:25:52.240 love doctor

00:25:52.820 at the Daily Wire

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00:26:28.440 We'll be right back.

00:26:29.200 A lot of good ones today,

00:26:41.020 so let's get right into it.

00:26:42.020 The first question

00:26:42.620 is from Eleanor.

00:26:44.540 Hi, Michael.

00:26:45.260 I've recently found out

00:26:46.540 a years-long friendship

00:26:47.760 won't survive the tax cut,

00:26:49.720 or at least won't survive Trump.

00:26:51.780 I could use some advice

00:26:52.680 on dealing with the fallout

00:26:53.760 is right now my only option.

00:26:55.600 To save it is apparently

00:26:56.700 to apologize

00:26:57.420 for my political beliefs,

00:26:58.760 and that's not going

00:26:59.600 to happen.

00:27:00.020 Thanks.

00:27:00.540 Good.

00:27:00.880 Don't apologize

00:27:01.460 for your political beliefs.

00:27:02.720 If they're right,

00:27:03.380 they're right.

00:27:04.580 Don't pretend

00:27:05.460 that something isn't true

00:27:06.420 to appease

00:27:07.520 some apparent friend

00:27:10.380 who doesn't seem

00:27:11.760 to care that much

00:27:12.500 about real friendship.

00:27:14.080 Friendship is misunderstood

00:27:14.960 these days.

00:27:16.000 Aristotle writes about it

00:27:17.220 in the Nicomachean Ethics,

00:27:18.840 and he says there are

00:27:19.360 three kinds of friendship.

00:27:20.360 There's a friendship

00:27:20.920 of utility,

00:27:22.240 friendships of pleasure,

00:27:23.400 and friendships of the good.

00:27:24.660 So a friendship of utility

00:27:25.720 is you can get something

00:27:26.700 from somebody,

00:27:27.620 you know,

00:27:27.780 like politics, right?

00:27:28.680 You become political friends.

00:27:29.680 Oh, my good friend.

00:27:30.780 Oh, yes, my great friend,

00:27:32.040 Mitt Romney.

00:27:32.520 Oh, yes, my great whatever, right?

00:27:33.760 That's a friendship

00:27:34.440 of utility.

00:27:35.420 A friendship of pleasure

00:27:36.980 is one where it's convenient.

00:27:39.300 You know,

00:27:39.540 there's some nice,

00:27:40.820 you enjoy one little thing

00:27:42.100 together,

00:27:42.980 or whatever.

00:27:44.480 You have some little thing

00:27:45.360 in common.

00:27:46.120 Maybe it's a college friend.

00:27:47.060 You both like going to parties

00:27:47.960 or something,

00:27:48.600 but you don't have much

00:27:49.460 there afterward.

00:27:50.040 And then there's

00:27:50.540 a friendship of the good, right?

00:27:52.460 No greater love

00:27:53.460 hath a man

00:27:53.940 than to die

00:27:54.660 for his friends.

00:27:56.060 It's based on

00:27:56.920 willing the good

00:27:57.920 of the friend

00:27:58.680 and he of you.

00:28:00.040 It is based

00:28:01.220 on having good will.

00:28:03.120 So, you know,

00:28:04.140 a good image of this

00:28:05.600 is the people

00:28:07.620 who stand side by side

00:28:09.100 one another

00:28:09.580 and they're looking

00:28:10.500 at the same thing.

00:28:11.780 It's a mutual appreciation

00:28:13.080 of virtues

00:28:13.980 that the other party

00:28:15.080 is holding dear.

00:28:15.780 You might not have

00:28:16.220 the same opinions

00:28:16.840 about the thing,

00:28:17.720 but you will have

00:28:18.360 the same good will.

00:28:19.900 The perfect form

00:28:20.980 of friendship,

00:28:22.300 Aristotle writes,

00:28:23.580 is that between the good

00:28:24.580 and those who resemble

00:28:25.600 each other in virtue.

00:28:26.960 For these friends

00:28:27.760 wish each alike

00:28:29.220 the others good

00:28:30.420 in respect of their goodness

00:28:31.700 and they are good

00:28:32.680 in themselves.

00:28:33.520 But it is those

00:28:34.260 who wish the good

00:28:35.080 of their friends

00:28:35.900 for their friends' sake,

00:28:37.480 who are friends

00:28:37.960 in the fullest sense,

00:28:39.100 since they love each other

00:28:40.120 for themselves

00:28:41.100 and not accidentally.

00:28:42.700 Hence,

00:28:42.960 the friendship of these

00:28:43.800 lasts as long

00:28:44.980 as they continue

00:28:45.560 to be good

00:28:46.060 and virtue

00:28:46.740 is a permanent quality.

00:28:48.300 Such friendships

00:28:48.960 are, of course,

00:28:49.880 rare

00:28:50.980 men are few.

00:28:52.740 It seems,

00:28:53.580 if your friend

00:28:54.280 is going to

00:28:55.640 cut you out

00:28:56.640 because you like

00:28:58.380 tax reform

00:28:59.180 or something,

00:29:00.060 it doesn't sound

00:29:00.800 like much of a friend

00:29:01.760 to begin with.

00:29:03.560 You don't need

00:29:04.400 to cut somebody out,

00:29:05.640 but you certainly

00:29:07.360 should never compromise

00:29:08.660 yourself

00:29:09.640 or your integrity

00:29:10.280 or your view

00:29:11.140 of the truth

00:29:11.680 and your own view

00:29:12.620 of the good

00:29:13.120 just to appease

00:29:14.140 somebody

00:29:14.700 who won't like you

00:29:16.400 if you have

00:29:16.900 a differing opinion.

00:29:17.600 from John.

00:29:19.400 Another Catholic

00:29:20.160 question for you all.

00:29:21.200 I've heard a few of these.

00:29:22.320 I'm having trouble

00:29:22.920 finding solace

00:29:23.600 in Catholic teachings.

00:29:24.780 My wife and I

00:29:25.380 are in our late 30s

00:29:26.300 and we're blessed

00:29:26.780 with three wonderful kids.

00:29:28.140 However,

00:29:28.480 we're in the middle

00:29:28.960 of our second miscarriage

00:29:30.120 in two years.

00:29:31.240 We'd love to have

00:29:31.780 another child,

00:29:32.480 but it is so painful

00:29:33.400 losing a child

00:29:34.080 midway through.

00:29:35.040 I don't know

00:29:35.680 what's in the cards

00:29:36.540 if we get pregnant again

00:29:37.520 and I'm too scared

00:29:38.680 to want to try again.

00:29:39.940 Is it even fair

00:29:40.940 to the future child

00:29:42.000 to try again?

00:29:42.620 The church teaches

00:29:43.700 away from both

00:29:44.540 non-natural pregnancies

00:29:45.740 and contraception,

00:29:47.020 so what are we to do?

00:29:48.280 Keep saying goodbye

00:29:49.020 to children

00:29:49.540 we will never know

00:29:50.220 in this world.

00:29:50.940 Enter a period

00:29:51.420 of chastity

00:29:52.080 until we're too old

00:29:53.080 to conceive.

00:29:53.880 Count our blessings

00:29:54.540 with our three healthy kids.

00:29:56.020 Get snipped

00:29:56.500 and go to reconciliation.

00:29:58.280 Pay big money

00:29:58.940 for IVF

00:29:59.500 is not in the cards

00:30:00.080 for us,

00:30:00.480 so that is one option

00:30:01.300 off the list.

00:30:02.240 For future children,

00:30:03.020 I'm open to adoption,

00:30:03.900 but that still leaves

00:30:04.600 unaddressed the future

00:30:05.840 sexual relationship

00:30:06.660 with my wife

00:30:07.240 and the fear

00:30:07.560 of losing another child.

00:30:09.200 I'm sorry to hear

00:30:09.840 of your trouble

00:30:10.560 the past couple years.

00:30:11.360 The Catholic teaching

00:30:12.460 on this,

00:30:12.920 as you know,

00:30:13.880 is that you cannot

00:30:14.740 close yourself off

00:30:15.900 utterly from the possibility

00:30:17.700 of children

00:30:18.280 within marriage.

00:30:19.520 But having children

00:30:20.600 is not the only purpose

00:30:22.340 of sex.

00:30:23.240 Fifty million Frenchmen

00:30:24.240 can be wrong,

00:30:25.020 but on this

00:30:25.360 they're not wrong.

00:30:26.280 The church teaches

00:30:27.040 that there are two purposes

00:30:28.380 of sex within marriage,

00:30:29.860 unitive and reproductive.

00:30:31.600 So the dilemma

00:30:32.560 is that some combination

00:30:34.380 of your faith

00:30:35.100 and your wallet

00:30:35.680 precludes condoms,

00:30:37.000 IVF, abstinence,

00:30:38.380 getting snipped,

00:30:39.440 all of those things.

00:30:40.400 Presumably more

00:30:41.080 than just your faith

00:30:41.880 and wallet preclude

00:30:42.960 that last one,

00:30:44.380 that abstinence.

00:30:45.440 So you're clearly

00:30:46.180 open to more children,

00:30:47.160 but you're justifiably

00:30:47.880 afraid of another

00:30:48.540 miscarriage

00:30:49.040 and another loss.

00:30:50.120 The method approved

00:30:50.960 and encouraged

00:30:51.400 by the church,

00:30:52.180 natural family planning,

00:30:53.440 might be your best bet.

00:30:54.540 People mock this,

00:30:55.480 NFP as pull and pray,

00:30:57.100 they say.

00:30:57.840 They say you're going

00:30:58.780 to definitely have kids

00:30:59.840 if you do it.

00:31:00.560 But actually,

00:31:01.140 when followed,

00:31:01.640 it's up to 99% effective

00:31:03.180 at avoiding pregnancy.

00:31:04.720 Now that still leaves open

00:31:05.980 the possibility of children,

00:31:07.320 the logical possibility

00:31:08.080 of children as the church

00:31:10.240 and her bridegroom require,

00:31:12.920 be fruitful and multiply,

00:31:14.140 that sort of thing.

00:31:14.760 But nothing,

00:31:15.540 there's nothing intervening

00:31:16.940 artificially to prevent children

00:31:18.740 and yet given the likelihood

00:31:20.440 of pregnancy at your age

00:31:21.540 and the effectiveness

00:31:22.100 of NFP,

00:31:23.220 that may be your solution

00:31:24.300 and you won't lose

00:31:25.100 the unitive effects

00:31:26.120 of that very,

00:31:27.720 very enjoyable act.

00:31:29.380 Best of luck

00:31:29.940 and I hope you don't have

00:31:30.480 to go through that again.

00:31:31.540 From Ian,

00:31:32.240 dear Michael,

00:31:32.760 I finished the newsroom

00:31:34.440 a little while ago

00:31:35.140 and a couple things

00:31:35.780 I took away from it

00:31:36.580 were one,

00:31:37.780 that the media

00:31:38.340 has left its main job

00:31:39.480 of informing the electorate

00:31:40.500 in favor of this new

00:31:41.320 clickbait form of news.

00:31:42.900 The other is how

00:31:43.460 this generation

00:31:44.180 has moved away

00:31:45.220 from the need for information.

00:31:46.420 We take everything

00:31:46.940 on authority.

00:31:48.060 How do I move back

00:31:48.960 into the realm of facts

00:31:49.980 so that I can grow intellectually?

00:31:51.540 Question everything.

00:31:52.700 Question everything.

00:31:53.980 Right now,

00:31:54.900 there's this prevailing idea

00:31:56.640 that if you are skeptical

00:31:58.300 of some claim,

00:31:59.460 that you're an idiot.

00:32:00.400 If you're skeptical

00:32:01.040 of the global warming,

00:32:03.560 catastrophic global warming,

00:32:04.900 you're an idiot.

00:32:05.760 There's nothing stupid

00:32:06.700 about being skeptical.

00:32:07.880 Question everything,

00:32:08.680 particularly the use of language.

00:32:10.440 See how language

00:32:11.200 is morphed and twisted

00:32:12.560 and perverted

00:32:13.240 to push a political agenda.

00:32:15.380 You see this.

00:32:15.920 Dreamers is the great example.

00:32:17.900 Dreamers is now the word

00:32:19.820 we use to refer

00:32:20.660 to a subset of illegal aliens

00:32:22.200 who are 40 years old

00:32:24.220 or younger

00:32:24.660 and brought here

00:32:25.320 under certain circumstances.

00:32:28.280 Dreaming has nothing to do

00:32:29.680 with the essence

00:32:30.420 of this political problem,

00:32:32.200 but they use it

00:32:32.880 as a euphemism

00:32:33.560 to make us look like jerks

00:32:34.840 if we don't want

00:32:35.320 to give the Dreamers

00:32:36.240 amnesty

00:32:37.200 and the Democratic Party

00:32:38.500 a permanent majority.

00:32:39.840 So be very careful about that

00:32:41.380 and watch all of the language.

00:32:43.680 From Marcus.

00:32:45.100 Michael,

00:32:45.420 I own a small business

00:32:46.180 that serves

00:32:46.600 a politically mixed clientele.

00:32:48.240 Michael Jordan once,

00:32:49.360 when asked his political views,

00:32:50.520 famously said,

00:32:51.460 Republicans buy sneakers too.

00:32:53.000 How can I support

00:32:53.680 conservative values

00:32:54.500 while still attracting customers

00:32:55.840 across the spectrum?

00:32:57.200 I think owning a small business

00:32:58.660 is a conservative value,

00:33:00.120 isn't it?

00:33:00.600 Isn't that like

00:33:01.100 in the list of them?

00:33:02.800 It is a conservative value.

00:33:04.400 You don't need to shove

00:33:05.100 your politics down their throat.

00:33:06.840 You're running a business.

00:33:08.280 The goal of,

00:33:08.740 now it's very fashionable

00:33:09.860 among millennials

00:33:10.480 to say,

00:33:11.260 what's the purpose

00:33:12.240 of our business, man?

00:33:13.600 What's the vision?

00:33:14.440 What's the social good

00:33:15.720 we're all going to do?

00:33:16.660 The purpose of the business

00:33:17.840 is to make money

00:33:18.540 and offer a service

00:33:20.000 to the marketplace

00:33:20.720 or a good to the marketplace

00:33:22.280 that will improve

00:33:23.300 people's lives.

00:33:24.340 So just do that.

00:33:25.300 If you do that

00:33:26.100 and you don't have to pay

00:33:27.680 for abortions

00:33:28.360 or something along the way,

00:33:29.800 you will be acting perfectly

00:33:31.660 in accordance

00:33:32.100 with conservative values.

00:33:33.480 St. Francis of Assisi said,

00:33:35.200 preach the gospel

00:33:35.940 and if you must speak,

00:33:37.740 I think that might apply

00:33:38.640 politically

00:33:39.100 if you're doing business.

00:33:40.700 The business of the American people

00:33:42.200 is business.

00:33:43.160 From Jake.

00:33:43.740 This is a long one

00:33:44.440 so I've shortened it a little.

00:33:45.500 This might have to be

00:33:46.080 the last one.

00:33:47.280 Michael,

00:33:48.000 I'm a big fan,

00:33:49.100 a subscriber

00:33:49.620 and I consider this important.

00:33:51.340 What exactly are you thinking

00:33:52.860 with this idiotic discussion

00:33:54.460 on gays?

00:33:55.520 First of all,

00:33:56.300 your discussion

00:33:56.780 with Fr. Michael Schmitz

00:33:57.940 wasn't about gay marriage.

00:33:59.600 It was about how gay people

00:34:00.840 should find strength

00:34:02.040 in Jesus to stay chaste.

00:34:03.720 Now I don't know

00:34:04.620 how much understanding

00:34:05.480 of what the conservative movement

00:34:06.720 has been through on this

00:34:08.160 but I was fighting

00:34:09.060 for gay rights

00:34:09.680 in the GOP

00:34:10.220 when you were in middle school.

00:34:11.400 From a purely political point of view,

00:34:12.720 quite literally

00:34:13.220 no decision by the GOP

00:34:14.480 has been more damaging

00:34:15.800 to conservatives

00:34:16.580 than the decision

00:34:17.620 to be hateful

00:34:18.300 and discriminatory to gays.

00:34:20.300 And make no mistake,

00:34:21.080 that is what they were.

00:34:21.720 Hateful, discriminatory,

00:34:22.780 unsympathetic.

00:34:23.380 The massive tide

00:34:24.620 in favor of gay rights

00:34:26.060 did not take place

00:34:27.340 because we all decided

00:34:29.120 to feel

00:34:29.820 instead of think

00:34:30.700 genius.

00:34:32.000 It took place

00:34:32.580 because gay people

00:34:33.380 finally felt safe

00:34:34.440 to begin coming out

00:34:36.020 and naming themselves

00:34:36.800 by the millions.

00:34:37.880 For decades,

00:34:38.440 even centuries,

00:34:39.440 most people didn't think

00:34:40.620 they knew a gay person.

00:34:41.900 Suddenly,

00:34:42.320 they were shown

00:34:42.960 that they did

00:34:43.500 and it's a lot harder

00:34:44.460 to be hateful to a group

00:34:45.360 if you find out

00:34:46.380 that your brother,

00:34:46.980 best friend,

00:34:47.340 or boss,

00:34:47.700 or favorite employee

00:34:48.400 is a member.

00:34:49.600 So the tide turned.

00:34:50.760 Listening to Fr. Schmitz,

00:34:51.600 I felt like I was back

00:34:52.460 in the 90s

00:34:53.100 or early 2000s.

00:34:54.360 All those ancient days

00:34:55.280 in the 2000s.

00:34:56.660 Talking to someone

00:34:57.620 about this subject,

00:34:58.840 idiotic statements

00:34:59.760 like chastity

00:35:00.640 can be fun

00:35:01.240 and friendships

00:35:02.020 are great.

00:35:02.680 Coming out of the mouth

00:35:03.480 of a person

00:35:03.980 who chooses

00:35:04.720 to be chased for God

00:35:05.520 and somehow manages

00:35:06.360 to think that calling

00:35:07.760 falls on people like me.

00:35:09.340 Well, Mr. Knowles,

00:35:10.580 I suggest you do

00:35:11.300 some more research.

00:35:12.340 If you would like

00:35:12.900 to understand more

00:35:13.780 about a sane,

00:35:14.900 all caps,

00:35:15.800 position on this,

00:35:16.800 I'm a conservative libertarian,

00:35:18.060 Gen Xer,

00:35:18.820 openly gay,

00:35:19.360 and begging you

00:35:20.400 not to go down this road.

00:35:21.960 Every new argument

00:35:22.620 about how it's not hateful

00:35:23.800 to keep gays

00:35:24.420 from being married

00:35:25.360 and how you love the sinner

00:35:26.600 but hate the sin

00:35:27.120 is not new.

00:35:27.680 It's all been tried before

00:35:28.480 and it nearly destroyed

00:35:29.700 conservatism

00:35:30.440 and will again

00:35:31.340 if you insist

00:35:31.900 on beating this dead horse.

00:35:33.500 I'm a big fan

00:35:34.120 and would be happy

00:35:34.760 to debate this

00:35:35.340 over email or phone.

00:35:36.700 It's too important

00:35:37.500 to be left alone.

00:35:39.120 I agree

00:35:39.600 that it is

00:35:40.960 he goes on

00:35:42.360 and says more mean things

00:35:43.220 about Fr. Schmitz

00:35:44.060 and he calls me hun.

00:35:45.840 I do agree

00:35:47.000 that this is too important

00:35:47.880 to be left alone.

00:35:48.640 That's why I'm talking about it.

00:35:49.840 I must say

00:35:50.620 I disagree with basically

00:35:52.040 everything you've just said

00:35:52.940 but I'll explain why.

00:35:54.080 I think you've missed

00:35:55.000 the basis of the argument

00:35:56.440 of the disagreement here

00:35:57.760 where the conflict

00:35:58.500 of visions really lies.

00:36:00.240 To begin,

00:36:00.720 you say

00:36:01.200 that the discussion

00:36:02.180 with Fr. Schmitz

00:36:02.880 was not about gay marriage.

00:36:04.780 It was explicitly

00:36:05.600 about gay marriage.

00:36:06.540 In particular,

00:36:07.140 one question.

00:36:08.460 What is marriage?

00:36:10.160 Not who can get married,

00:36:11.540 not who should have

00:36:12.160 the right to get married,

00:36:13.560 not who has the right

00:36:14.380 to get married?

00:36:15.380 Those questions

00:36:16.040 come later.

00:36:16.820 The crux of the conversation

00:36:17.980 is around one question.

00:36:19.880 What is marriage?

00:36:22.000 Then subsequent questions

00:36:23.620 follow.

00:36:24.960 Does sexual difference

00:36:26.340 have anything to do

00:36:27.200 with marriage maybe?

00:36:28.400 Is there a categorical difference

00:36:30.060 between men and women?

00:36:31.460 Or are those differences

00:36:32.620 just trivial and meaningless

00:36:33.740 and gender doesn't mean anything

00:36:35.220 and men and women

00:36:36.080 are all exactly the same?

00:36:37.560 And if there are real differences

00:36:39.140 between men and women,

00:36:40.660 perhaps might those differences

00:36:42.040 play some role in marriage?

00:36:43.900 Does marriage

00:36:44.700 have something to do

00:36:45.960 with the logical possibility

00:36:47.640 of procreation?

00:36:49.020 What is marriage?

00:36:49.900 That's the question.

00:36:50.760 It's the question

00:36:51.440 that many people

00:36:52.860 angrily do not want to answer.

00:36:54.740 They want to skip right ahead

00:36:55.620 to the rights question.

00:36:56.680 But you have to answer

00:36:57.680 the definition question first.

00:36:59.260 But that's the hard one

00:37:00.720 and I think that's why

00:37:01.480 advocates of redefining marriage

00:37:02.740 try to skip it.

00:37:03.780 You say that for decades

00:37:04.760 and centuries

00:37:05.260 most people didn't think

00:37:06.380 they knew a gay person.

00:37:08.100 This seems to me

00:37:08.740 an example

00:37:09.160 of a modern prejudice,

00:37:11.160 modern pride.

00:37:12.080 There's this modern prejudice

00:37:13.480 to think that our generation

00:37:14.740 discovered everything

00:37:15.620 including homosexuality

00:37:16.980 but we didn't.

00:37:18.220 Ancient medieval

00:37:18.980 modern literature

00:37:19.800 is replete with references

00:37:21.020 to gay sex

00:37:21.840 and relationships.

00:37:22.900 The phrase

00:37:23.380 il modo italiano,

00:37:24.960 the Italian way,

00:37:26.200 was used to mean

00:37:27.360 sodomy itself

00:37:28.320 in the 16th century.

00:37:29.620 Maybe still today.

00:37:30.440 Italians are very

00:37:31.300 imaginative

00:37:34.120 and creative.

00:37:35.160 Homosexuality

00:37:35.760 has been around

00:37:36.300 a long time

00:37:36.900 and all ages

00:37:37.840 have known about it

00:37:38.920 and written about it.

00:37:39.740 But the crux

00:37:40.420 of our conversation

00:37:41.120 really is not about

00:37:42.620 homosexuality at all

00:37:43.760 and I think that's

00:37:44.380 where people are missing

00:37:45.180 this point.

00:37:46.180 It really isn't about

00:37:47.200 the moral questions

00:37:49.340 or the practical questions

00:37:50.180 of homosexuality

00:37:51.140 which mostly

00:37:53.300 I don't care about.

00:37:54.560 It was the nature

00:37:55.480 of marriage

00:37:56.260 which is a question

00:37:56.960 I do care about

00:37:57.760 because it's quite

00:37:58.360 a political question.

00:37:59.760 You used the phrase

00:38:00.620 keep gays

00:38:01.440 from being married.

00:38:03.260 The question

00:38:03.780 of our conversation

00:38:04.500 is what is marriage?

00:38:06.240 Is it logically possible

00:38:07.540 to keep someone

00:38:08.760 from being married?

00:38:09.380 The question

00:38:09.780 has nothing to do

00:38:10.660 with the morality per se.

00:38:12.060 Whether you think

00:38:12.860 that gay sex

00:38:14.020 is a grave moral sin

00:38:15.720 or you think

00:38:16.680 that it is the best thing

00:38:17.980 since sliced bread

00:38:19.700 neither has anything

00:38:21.720 to do with that question.

00:38:23.740 Does sexual difference

00:38:24.920 sexual complementarity

00:38:26.700 the logical possibility

00:38:28.060 of procreation

00:38:28.680 do those concepts

00:38:29.480 have anything to do

00:38:30.720 with what is marriage?

00:38:31.920 You're of course right

00:38:32.640 that people should

00:38:33.180 never be hateful

00:38:34.080 or discriminatory

00:38:35.140 or mean

00:38:35.540 or whatever

00:38:36.040 toward gay people.

00:38:37.680 That also has nothing

00:38:38.740 to do with the question.

00:38:40.040 That's a distraction

00:38:41.120 and a diversion

00:38:41.880 to avoid answering

00:38:43.080 a simple question

00:38:44.220 that might have

00:38:45.020 an inconvenient answer.

00:38:46.280 What is marriage?

00:38:47.720 Proponents of redefining marriage

00:38:49.180 or of undefining marriage

00:38:50.480 they find it convenient

00:38:51.620 to skip that.

00:38:52.380 They jump right ahead.

00:38:53.340 We have to define

00:38:54.380 our terms.

00:38:55.420 If so elemental a question

00:38:56.800 as what is marriage

00:38:58.580 can only be met

00:38:59.780 with anger

00:39:00.360 and accusations

00:39:01.120 of bigotry.

00:39:02.100 A question that was

00:39:02.860 easily answered

00:39:03.580 until about five minutes ago.

00:39:05.080 As Justice Kennedy

00:39:07.080 now says

00:39:07.600 the only reason

00:39:08.380 to oppose

00:39:09.040 radically redefining

00:39:10.620 or undefining marriage

00:39:11.620 is irrational hatred

00:39:13.320 of gays

00:39:13.840 irrational animus.

00:39:15.060 If that's your

00:39:16.040 immediate response

00:39:16.840 one must wonder

00:39:18.360 whether the arguments

00:39:19.640 for redefining

00:39:20.480 or undefining marriage

00:39:21.340 are really on

00:39:22.600 sound logical footing

00:39:23.920 or if this is a matter

00:39:25.460 of emotion

00:39:26.060 running away with us

00:39:27.140 and highlighting

00:39:28.760 our unwillingness

00:39:29.680 to answer

00:39:30.400 and deal with

00:39:31.700 simple

00:39:32.360 but difficult

00:39:34.140 simple in their

00:39:35.600 clarity

00:39:36.300 but difficult

00:39:37.180 in their effect

00:39:38.420 on society

00:39:39.200 and on culture

00:39:39.800 questions

00:39:40.620 that we have to

00:39:41.760 deal with first

00:39:42.360 before we can talk

00:39:43.160 about rights.

00:39:43.760 From Garrett

00:39:44.340 Dr. Knowles

00:39:46.080 alright we'll do one

00:39:46.740 we'll do one more

00:39:47.500 right that's fine

00:39:48.060 Dr. Knowles

00:39:48.940 I often hear people

00:39:50.220 sit back and do nothing

00:39:51.420 to influence their future

00:39:53.140 because God has a plan

00:39:54.220 however after studying

00:39:55.520 a good bit of theology

00:39:56.460 especially Catholic theology

00:39:57.780 I find this to be

00:39:58.880 a misdirected belief

00:39:59.800 I can find few passages

00:40:01.380 from scripture

00:40:01.920 with the word plan

00:40:02.860 but many with God's will

00:40:03.920 it seems to me

00:40:04.840 and my priest

00:40:05.360 that God does not plan

00:40:06.460 out your entire life

00:40:07.980 like the Calvinists

00:40:09.320 might say

00:40:09.880 but he does have a will

00:40:11.160 for your life

00:40:12.000 instead of betting

00:40:13.660 on God's plan

00:40:14.400 to hit you in the face

00:40:15.280 it's your job

00:40:16.460 to transform your mind

00:40:17.560 body and soul

00:40:18.280 to find God's will

00:40:19.440 for your life

00:40:20.000 we're both interested

00:40:20.800 in your thoughts

00:40:21.420 on our premise

00:40:22.440 and if you agree

00:40:22.940 thank you

00:40:23.480 this is really good advice

00:40:25.400 you're absolutely right

00:40:27.220 Andrew Klavan

00:40:28.160 gave me this advice once

00:40:29.260 which is that

00:40:30.000 God can't drive

00:40:30.880 a parked car

00:40:31.720 he might have a will

00:40:33.000 for your life

00:40:33.600 but he can't drive

00:40:34.180 a parked car

00:40:35.300 and so

00:40:35.960 there was

00:40:36.880 you know

00:40:37.600 I'm out here in Hollywood

00:40:38.720 I'm having trouble

00:40:39.440 as an actor

00:40:39.980 especially as a conservative actor

00:40:41.260 and I will say

00:40:42.900 the minute that I did

00:40:44.020 anything

00:40:44.780 which was nothing

00:40:45.880 I did nothing

00:40:46.980 right

00:40:47.200 I did

00:40:47.600 when I published

00:40:48.560 a blank book

00:40:49.100 I did the physical

00:40:50.000 equivalent of nothing

00:40:50.980 a lot of wonderful

00:40:52.640 things followed

00:40:53.300 because it was

00:40:53.880 it was at least

00:40:54.780 almost doing

00:40:55.960 if you involve

00:40:56.880 your will

00:40:57.560 then

00:40:58.240 only then

00:40:59.160 can you match

00:40:59.640 God's will

00:41:00.120 you have free will too

00:41:01.400 God has a will

00:41:02.460 and he gave you

00:41:03.340 a will

00:41:04.160 Dante

00:41:05.100 referring to God

00:41:06.500 in heaven

00:41:07.020 in his comedy

00:41:08.040 uses the phrase

00:41:08.820 dove si puote

00:41:09.820 ciò che si vuole

00:41:10.700 where will and desire

00:41:12.680 are united

00:41:13.440 where one can do

00:41:15.040 what one wishes

00:41:15.880 where he

00:41:16.880 you know

00:41:17.240 he is up there

00:41:18.160 who can do

00:41:18.780 what he wills

00:41:19.520 this is the important

00:41:20.820 juncture of grace

00:41:21.760 and liberty

00:41:22.340 you can turn away

00:41:23.380 from God

00:41:23.740 or you can turn

00:41:24.240 toward God

00:41:25.000 you know

00:41:25.760 we have a lot more

00:41:26.380 questions to go through

00:41:27.140 we had some really

00:41:27.800 good ones

00:41:28.460 unfortunately

00:41:28.920 someone called me

00:41:29.620 an American heartthrob

00:41:30.600 but

00:41:31.320 do we have time

00:41:32.800 Rob

00:41:33.020 do we have time

00:41:33.420 to do one more

00:41:34.220 we can do one more

00:41:35.420 all right

00:41:35.760 let's just do one more

00:41:36.580 question

00:41:36.940 I can't

00:41:37.620 because there are

00:41:38.040 going to be

00:41:38.200 all these questions

00:41:38.680 in the conversation

00:41:39.240 let's do this

00:41:40.060 this is the one

00:41:41.140 from Chris

00:41:41.780 and he called me

00:41:42.220 an American heartthrob

00:41:43.740 American heartthrob

00:41:44.760 Knowles

00:41:45.160 it may

00:41:46.340 you know

00:41:46.560 if it had said

00:41:47.000 something else

00:41:47.440 we wouldn't be doing

00:41:48.020 it

00:41:48.180 it may come as a shock

00:41:49.520 but I have a question

00:41:50.520 about Catholicism

00:41:51.540 do you know

00:41:52.000 particularly the concept

00:41:53.160 of papal infallibility

00:41:54.280 how are we supposed

00:41:55.200 to know when the Pope

00:41:55.880 is infallible

00:41:56.520 does he tell us

00:41:57.500 do we just know it

00:41:58.640 or is it something

00:41:59.300 that only God knows

00:42:00.200 and we just have to guess

00:42:01.320 you are here

00:42:02.300 clearly confusing

00:42:03.060 papal infallibility

00:42:04.240 with the related

00:42:05.480 but different doctrine

00:42:06.500 of Michael infallibility

00:42:07.820 and the former

00:42:08.740 is when the Pope

00:42:09.360 speaks authoritatively

00:42:10.560 ex cathedra

00:42:11.400 and the latter

00:42:12.200 is every single day

00:42:13.460 on this show

00:42:13.960 when I speak infallibly

00:42:15.460 ex cofefe

00:42:16.380 Vatican II teaches

00:42:17.840 infallibility this way

00:42:18.980 it says

00:42:19.760 although the individual

00:42:20.540 bishops

00:42:21.100 do not enjoy

00:42:21.940 the prerogative

00:42:22.460 of infallibility

00:42:23.380 they can nevertheless

00:42:24.400 proclaim Christ's

00:42:25.940 doctrine

00:42:26.600 infallibly

00:42:27.540 this is so

00:42:28.520 even when they are

00:42:30.080 dispersed around the world

00:42:31.020 provided that while

00:42:31.780 maintaining the bond

00:42:32.560 of unity among themselves

00:42:33.700 and with Peter's successor

00:42:35.300 and while teaching

00:42:36.360 authentically

00:42:36.920 on a matter of faith

00:42:37.880 or morals

00:42:38.360 they concur

00:42:39.240 in a single viewpoint

00:42:40.220 as the one

00:42:41.100 which must be held

00:42:41.800 conclusively

00:42:42.340 this authority

00:42:43.200 is even more clearly

00:42:44.000 verified

00:42:44.460 when gathered together

00:42:45.840 in an ecumenical council

00:42:47.040 they are teachers

00:42:48.120 and judges

00:42:48.840 of faith and morals

00:42:49.720 for the universal church

00:42:50.720 their definitions

00:42:51.680 must then be adhered to

00:42:53.220 with the submission

00:42:54.260 of faith

00:42:54.980 so if that didn't

00:42:56.680 clear it up for you

00:42:57.360 the doctrine

00:42:58.580 comes from scripture

00:42:59.460 Christ says to Peter

00:43:00.880 in John

00:43:01.840 feed my sheep

00:43:02.520 in Luke

00:43:03.200 he says

00:43:03.700 I have prayed for you

00:43:04.660 that your faith

00:43:05.320 may not fail

00:43:05.940 in Matthew

00:43:06.680 he says

00:43:07.040 you are Peter

00:43:07.540 and on this rock

00:43:08.180 I will build my church

00:43:09.360 and the gates of hell

00:43:10.100 shall not prevail against it

00:43:11.580 I will give you

00:43:12.580 the keys to the kingdom

00:43:13.580 of heaven

00:43:14.040 and whatever you bind

00:43:15.180 on earth

00:43:15.460 will be bound in heaven

00:43:16.260 and whatever you loose

00:43:17.020 on earth

00:43:17.260 shall be loosed in heaven

00:43:18.140 sometimes non-Catholics

00:43:19.900 point out

00:43:20.480 that Paul

00:43:21.660 says that Peter

00:43:22.780 did something wrong

00:43:23.780 you see here

00:43:24.260 there's evidence

00:43:24.720 that the Pope

00:43:25.220 isn't infallible

00:43:26.020 but he didn't say

00:43:28.400 that Peter

00:43:28.980 is pronouncing wrong things

00:43:30.620 and is preaching heresy

00:43:31.940 he very clearly says

00:43:32.860 he's not acting

00:43:34.020 in accordance

00:43:34.560 with what he's preaching

00:43:35.520 so you hear that a lot

00:43:37.520 and Peter

00:43:39.220 many times

00:43:40.060 doesn't act in accordance

00:43:40.860 with what he's preaching

00:43:41.700 that's I think

00:43:42.880 a very important aspect

00:43:44.360 of why he's chosen

00:43:45.920 and handed the keys

00:43:47.420 to the kingdom of heaven

00:43:48.420 an infallible pronouncement

00:43:49.860 comes only when some doctrine

00:43:51.120 has been called into question

00:43:52.180 most doctrines

00:43:53.280 have never been doubted

00:43:54.100 by the majority of Catholics

00:43:55.200 now infallibility

00:43:56.520 is not impeccability

00:43:57.760 the charism to speak

00:43:59.420 infallibly on matters

00:44:00.460 of doctrine

00:44:00.880 is not the same

00:44:01.520 as not sinning

00:44:02.600 not being able to sin

00:44:03.400 on that point though

00:44:04.620 it is worth pointing out

00:44:05.980 how impressive it is

00:44:07.740 that the Popes

00:44:09.600 have been so holy

00:44:10.580 throughout history

00:44:11.580 we always hear

00:44:12.460 about the bad Popes

00:44:13.400 but the only reason

00:44:14.280 we hear about them

00:44:14.980 is they're so rare

00:44:15.900 if they were common

00:44:17.020 we wouldn't talk about

00:44:18.860 Boniface VIII

00:44:20.180 whom Dante

00:44:21.080 puts in hell

00:44:22.200 we wouldn't talk about

00:44:23.140 the handful of bad ones

00:44:24.220 we would say

00:44:24.640 they're all bad

00:44:25.100 but they're clearly not

00:44:26.100 it's generally understood

00:44:28.100 that the Pope

00:44:28.520 has spoken ex cathedra

00:44:29.920 infallibly

00:44:30.620 only twice

00:44:31.340 that was Pope Pius IX

00:44:33.020 and Pope Pius XII

00:44:33.940 defining aspects

00:44:35.080 of Mary

00:44:35.920 the Immaculate Conception

00:44:37.880 and the Assumption

00:44:38.660 in this case

00:44:40.180 this isn't defining

00:44:41.680 something new

00:44:42.160 the Church already believed

00:44:43.080 this first millennia

00:44:44.260 in the face of modernity

00:44:46.140 it defined the dogma

00:44:47.200 the Pope can also

00:44:48.500 speak infallibly

00:44:49.280 in the ordinary

00:44:50.060 magisterium

00:44:50.920 not ex cathedra

00:44:51.960 as when Pope St.

00:44:53.160 John Paul II

00:44:53.640 defined the Church's

00:44:55.040 prohibition against murder

00:44:56.380 for instance

00:44:57.080 which included

00:44:57.980 euthanasia and abortion

00:44:59.080 but this isn't

00:45:00.060 exactly controversial

00:45:01.120 the Church

00:45:01.660 has never supported murder

00:45:03.080 you know

00:45:03.520 it's never been

00:45:04.680 they say

00:45:05.020 okay the old guy

00:45:05.820 supported murder

00:45:06.460 but now we don't

00:45:07.100 support murder

00:45:07.700 it is generally

00:45:09.000 a rule with metaphysics

00:45:10.100 that shallows are clear

00:45:11.320 and profound things

00:45:12.100 are murky

00:45:12.640 so the vast majority

00:45:14.260 of infallible teachings

00:45:15.240 we already know

00:45:16.180 and agree with

00:45:16.820 as for ex cathedra pronouncements

00:45:18.540 definitions of

00:45:19.340 questioned doctrine

00:45:20.480 the Pope will make it clear

00:45:22.260 as they did

00:45:22.920 in the 20th century

00:45:24.400 I know that doesn't

00:45:25.360 fit into a sound bite

00:45:26.360 but I think

00:45:27.080 I hope that clears up

00:45:27.760 a little bit

00:45:28.160 of infallibility

00:45:28.920 and I promise you

00:45:30.380 I was speaking

00:45:30.980 infallibly ex covefe

00:45:32.180 so you can take that

00:45:33.240 to the bank man

00:45:34.020 everybody have a good weekend

00:45:35.480 you can still binge

00:45:36.700 another kingdom

00:45:37.260 Andrew Klavan's

00:45:38.100 another kingdom

00:45:38.560 on any app

00:45:40.800 it'll get you ready

00:45:41.280 for Valentine's Day

00:45:42.140 some of it gets

00:45:42.620 a little saucy

00:45:43.240 otherwise I'll see you

00:45:44.280 on Monday

00:45:44.600 I'm Michael Knowles

00:45:45.160 this is The Michael Knowles Show

00:45:46.140 see you then

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The Michael Knowles Show - February 08, 2018

Ep. 102 - Nancy Pelosi and Democrat Yammering Through The Ages

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