Ep. 1271 - Catholics Fight Drag Night
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Summary
Juneteenth, the day that marks the end of slavery and the beginning of freedom, is a federal holiday celebrated by liberals every July 4th. The whole point of Juneteenth is to be an anti-independence day for an enemy nation. It s the same subversive claptrap that the Libs peddle every chance they get.
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I hope you're preparing for Juneteenth, which will complete the Triduum of the Sacred Feast of Juneteenth.
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And many of you probably had never heard of Juneteenth before the liberals invented it five minutes ago.
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But that is not stopping even many conservatives from embracing the holiday and joining in on the pretense that Juneteenth is not only a real thing, but a very good thing.
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I have here an article from the Antioch Herald.
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Happy Juneteenth, a celebration of freedom brought to you by the Republican Party.
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I have here Washington Times, right-wing Washington Times.
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Juneteenth, a celebration in honor of the GOP's greatest accomplishment.
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And then I have here Fox News, the formerly conservative cable channel Fox News, why Juneteenth is as American as the 4th of July.
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Juneteenth unites Americans by celebrating the end of slavery.
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And it doesn't mark the end of slavery, either in the Emancipation Proclamation or in the 13th Amendment.
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It marks the day that the mailman made it to some random part of Texas and told the locals that Lincoln had freed some of the slaves two and a half years prior.
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Virtually no one in the country had heard of it until a few years ago when white liberals started pretending that it was a really important day to black people.
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Virtually none of whom had ever heard of it either.
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And then, because the white people thought the black people really cared about it, everybody started pretending that it was a thing.
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Whatever obscure local tradition Juneteenth is based on has little, if anything, to do with the current holiday, which liberals created three years ago and named, crucially, the Juneteenth National Independence Day.
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In order to replace the old Independence Day, which is the 4th of July.
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Even today, even the most ardent observers of Juneteenth will struggle to tell you exactly what the day commemorates.
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The point is emphatically not to mark anything in particular.
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The point is to insist that emancipation never really took place.
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That it is a constant process of revolution to overthrow the oppression and deceit of our political order and national myths.
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The whole point of Juneteenth is to be an anti-independence day for an anti-American nation.
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It's the same subversive claptrap that the libs peddle every chance they get, which would be bad enough.
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But to add insult to injury, a sizable group of sweet, dopey, gullible conservatives are going along with it.
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As if our cooperation with this contrived nonsense will finally get the libs to stop calling us evil and racist.
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And, as is always the case with conservative capitulation, not only is this not going to work, but left unchecked, the revolution will continue more and more radically until we finally celebrate independence from our very country and culture.
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We have a little later, I'm sorry to report, a Southern California high school teacher giving a lesson on pleasing an orifice that really should not be pleased.
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Okay, but we'll get to it because a lot of conservatives, I think, are having the wrong reaction to this disgusting clip.
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First, though, we've got to stick around with these squishy conservatives, these gullible, center kind of liberal, squishy people.
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Juneteenth is for conservatives who want to play pretend.
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The liberals invent Juneteenth, or more or less, they take some random tiny local tradition and turn it into something completely different at the national level.
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And we all have to pretend that it's a real thing.
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And the whole point of the holiday is obviously to be an anti-independence day.
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It's why it's two weeks before Independence Day.
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That's why it founds the nation in a very different way.
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It views the trajectory of the American nation in a very different way than the traditional Independence Day would.
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The old Independence Day is founded on this idea that there is a fixed human nature.
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There's certain truths, unalienable rights that God endows us with.
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And we're going to pursue those eternal truths.
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Because the new Independence Day, Juneteenth, it says, no, there's not.
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But even the 13th Amendment didn't really get rid of slavery because there was Jim Crow later.
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And even Jim Crow didn't really get rid of slavery because there was redlining.
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And there was, I don't know, now there's mass incarceration.
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We've got to just run into an uncertain liberal future where they tell us, eventually, eventually, we'll find utopia.
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And there are conservatives who want to pretend that that's a good thing, like that's a win.
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What the Democrats don't realize is they're the real racists, you see.
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And so what they don't realize is the Republicans actually won the Civil War.
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But if that makes you feel better at night, okay, fine.
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And it's this same kind of play pretend, make believe that everything is okay and that the Republicans, we're really winning here.
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We're seriously equal partners in this American political project.
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It's not that the liberal establishment dominates everything.
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It's those kind of guys who we're now seeing really go after, say, Donald Trump.
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It's those kind of guys who we're seeing really go after the populist element in the GOP.
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It's guys like Asa Hutchinson, who is furious about the Trump campaign.
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But one thing he's furious about is the single most defensible part of the Trump campaign,
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namely the observation that the Department of Justice is being weaponized against conservatives.
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The whole concept that so many Republican leaders are adopting, that this is the weaponization of the Justice Department.
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I can certainly disagree with many of the decisions they've made, particularly Jim Comey and some of his in reference to Hillary Clinton.
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But in terms of the overall charge of weaponization of the Justice Department, look at Donald Trump.
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He's already declared that if he's elected president, he's going to appoint a special prosecutor to go after the Biden family.
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That's called a weaponization of the Justice Department.
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And so let's back off of these accusations and let's get back to being the party of the rule of law,
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of the justice system, supporting law enforcement and equal application of law.
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But you just admitted the Justice Department's being weaponized.
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The first part of that statement, Asa Hutchinson admits, yeah, look, I'm not happy with the things Jim Comey did,
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Well, I don't necessarily agree about the DOJ letting Hillary off the hook for a much more egregious version of the crime that Donald Trump allegedly committed.
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And of course, you know, the DOJ cooking up a completely fake narrative, a hoax,
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alleging that he colluded with the Russians to try to destroy his presidential campaign from the DOJ
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and then try to undermine his entire duly elected administration.
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And sure, maybe I don't, I don't support, now I'm just putting words in his mouth,
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maybe I don't support the fact that the DOJ is going to let BLM terrorists who burn federal courthouses off the hook.
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Meanwhile, they throw Midwestern grannies who cracked the chorus light in the Capitol Rotunda into solitary confinement without charges.
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Maybe, okay, I know, but, but, if we acknowledge all those unfortunate truths,
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well, then we might weaponize the Justice Department too, so let's just, let's just what?
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He's saying, yes, the DOJ is being weaponized by Democrats against Republicans consistently.
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The majority of Americans, according to a Harvard-Harris poll, say that the indictments of Donald Trump are election interference by the Democrats.
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That's all true, but let's pretend it's not happening.
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Because if we acknowledge that it's happening, then we have a responsibility to do something about it,
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which means that we're going to have to insist upon our political principles in the government,
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which, of course, we should, it's politics, right?
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Politics is what we do in the government, but we have, for many decades now,
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we've pretended that that somehow isn't the case, that the government is totally neutral
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and doesn't have any substantive political commitments.
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And so if we do that, well, by golly, we're going to have to acknowledge that there are some serious problems with our structure
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and that the liberals have a lot more power than the squishy Republicans previously admitted.
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Because if we do all that, then I can't go on CNN anymore.
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You know, then they're going to call me, like, racist or something.
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Some conservatives are sick of playing pretend.
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Some thousands of conservatives, conservatives Catholics,
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Because, you know, we had previously mentioned that the Dodgers were going to honor
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an actual satanic drag troupe, a blasphemous, sacrilegious, satanic drag troupe
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whose entire raison d'etre is to mock our Lord, Jesus Christ.
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That group was being honored at Dodger Stadium.
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They're called the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.
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So they mock not only our Lord, but they mock nuns who worship our Lord.
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And so the Dodgers initially said, okay, we probably shouldn't honor the satanic drag troupe.
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And then later on they said, no, actually we should.
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Sorry, I forgot our national religion is the rainbow.
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Okay, yeah, we're going to honor the satanic drag troupe.
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And so thousands of Catholics turned up outside and protested.
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And unlike when the liberals show up in protest, they didn't burn anything down.
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They just held up signs that said, stop this kind of hate.
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You know, really nice basic stuff holding up beautiful banners,
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They're just, man, I love conservatives and Christians so much.
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They just, even when they're taking to the streets, they're just orderly, put together.
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I mean, if you were a big lib and you were going to the Dodgers game,
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you would probably be surprised that there are even that many Catholics in Southern California.
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And it's something that the American people need to start doing a little bit more.
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Because increasingly, you're seeing a divergence of opinion between the people and the elite.
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The big divergence of opinion that we're seeing now is not so much left versus right or Republican versus Democrat.
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That's how you're seeing the emergence of populist candidates like Donald Trump, like Robert Kennedy Jr.,
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who are kind of crossing party lines in a way that we haven't seen in the last few decades of American politics.
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You're seeing the deplorables, the irredeemable people, you know, the ones, the bitter clingers that Obama and Hillary Clinton made fun of.
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Those people don't neatly fit exactly into Republican or Democrat.
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They're moving much more in the Republican camp right now because the Democrats have now become the party of the elite.
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So we've got the numbers on our sides on a whole host of issues.
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I mean, to use just this example that the drag queen stuff and the anti-Catholic hate,
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the American people are overwhelmingly on our side.
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But because we don't have that much power anymore, because a small number of elite liberals control the political process now,
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it's unclear how much influence our numbers are actually going to get us.
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Do you remember with the COVID vaccines, Joe Biden said, I'm not going to have a vaccine mandate.
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Because Biden was waiting, Fauci was waiting, for the number of people who had already received one shot of the vaccine
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to reach a significant threshold that there wouldn't be total pushback.
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So then the moment, when it was just 10% of people who had gotten the vaccine,
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Biden knew that a federal mandate was a losing proposition.
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Once you get enough people, all of a sudden you say, okay, now we've got it.
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During the run-up to the vaccine, he was asked, what percentage of people need to be vaccinated to achieve herd immunity?
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And Fauci was asked, wait, hold on, why does this keep moving?
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And he admitted, he said, I'm paraphrasing here, but he said something to the effect of,
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because, look, part of this is politically, publicly, I've got to convince people to get the vaccine.
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So we move, we adjust the thresholds a little bit to do that, okay?
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If we show these guys that we mean business, they are going to back off, at least for a time.
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Now, speaking of vaccines and speaking of Robert Kennedy Jr., he's making some waves now.
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The way you know that Robert Kennedy Jr. is making serious waves against Joe Biden is, one, he's polling around 19% or 20% against him,
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which is pretty insane for a, quote, unquote, fringe candidate who's running against the incumbent.
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But the other reason that you know that he's starting to make some serious headway is that the liberal establishment is going after him.
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So Bobby Kennedy Jr., he lived in the town I lived in growing up, or like one town over.
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So I've been aware of Bobby Kennedy Jr. for most of my life.
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And he's a liberal lawyer, environmentalist lawyer.
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He got really focused on the vaccine issue and was mocked for it.
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And now he's not mocked quite as much for it because people saw the negative effects of some of these vaccines during COVID.
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And so now he seems like a much more anti-establishment figure.
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The press treated this guy like royalty for most of my life because he's a Kennedy.
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And now, all of a sudden, that he seems to be a threat to Joe Biden and the liberal establishment,
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all of a sudden, you're seeing these headlines about decades-old misdeeds of Bobby Kennedy Jr.
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These guys, you know, they're not the most buttoned-up family in America.
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Why now are you covering scandals from 10 years ago, 20 years ago?
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Oh, because you gave him a pass when he was a reliable, if eccentric Democrat,
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I'm not one of these people who says, boy, if Jack Kennedy were alive today, he'd be a Republican.
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I don't, I guess maybe he would, probably he wouldn't.
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So I don't really fall into the thrall of the Kennedys.
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But I'll tell you, if there were some way to see a Trump-Kennedy ticket,
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And the reason it's not totally out of the question is in part because of the time that
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They're both, for large parts of their careers, skeptics of the vaccines.
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They're both now derided and detested by the political establishment.
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They're both celebrity rock stars within their own parties and social milieu who have been sort of
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And now they're both considered to be champions of the people.
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So as populism rises and blurs the lines between left and right,
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there's a case for putting those two guys together,
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even though Kennedy's got all sorts of terrible opinions on guns and abortion and all the rest of it.
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If a Kennedy were the GOP vice presidential candidate,
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He's polling very well among Democrats right now.
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But it is probably Kennedy's best shot right now, given who he is.
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And it's a reminder, too, that populism doesn't look like you think it does from a movie or a novel or something like that.
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But it's not usually just some random yokel who crops up out of nowhere and leads a popular revolution.
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These guys are both very, very wealthy celebrities who seem like unexpected figures.
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You know, the idea that a billionaire playboy from New York is going to lead the conservative resurgence in America,
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The idea that a Kennedy is going to lead the anti-establishment faction of the Democrats seems a little crazy.
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Another 31.7% think they should not debate and 10.8% say that they are unsure.
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Just as it took that billionaire celebrity to bring populism to the GOP, it might well take
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Now, speaking of the Biden administration, Joe Biden's monkeypox czar, a man named Dimitri
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He's that guy who published photographs of himself wearing leather sex gear and specifically
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wore a leather pentagram, symbol of the devil, on his chest over a pentagram tattoo.
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These are the people that our supposedly Catholic president is staffing his administration with.
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But this guy, this Satan-worshipping leather sex fiend, he was put in charge of monkeypox,
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But he seems to have really terrible advice for how to deal with monkeypox because you would
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think if you're in that role, if you're the monkeypox czar, and you know that practically
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speaking, monkeypox is a sexually transmitted disease for homosexual men who go to orgies.
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Technically, you can get it other ways, but that's, in effect, that's actually how it
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Sort of like with HIV, they say that HIV is not a sexually transmitted disease because
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Like, I guess you can, but the way you do get it is from a very specific kind of sexual
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So, this monkeypox guy, you would expect him to say, hey, don't engage in dangerous
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That should be pretty much the only thing that his job requires.
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I work in HIV normally, and I'll tell you that, you know, I always say that I've never
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made an HIV diagnosis in someone that hasn't somehow related to stigma.
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So, really, stigma tends to be a barrier to testing, a barrier to vaccination.
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And so, you know, really addressing stigma intentionally and making sure that we get
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the word out in a way that supports people's joy as opposed to, you know, calling them
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So, I think, you know, one of the things to think about is that, you know, one person's
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idea of risk is another person's idea of a great festival or Friday night, for that
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So, we have to sort of embrace that with joy and make sure that folks know how to keep
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One person's idea of risk of contracting HIV or monkeypox or any other number of sexually
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transmitted diseases, one man's idea of risk is another guy's idea of a great Friday night.
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And so, what we have to do is encourage that, encourage people to go to weird leather orgies.
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Are we going to tell them not to engage in dangerous, deviant sexual behavior that's
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That societies for all of history have discouraged strongly and certainly our civilization discouraged
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Stigma is a real barrier to people getting vaccines.
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But you know what stigma is also a big impediment to?
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Do you know what stigma is also a great impediment to?
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Because they're considered socially unacceptable.
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If they happen, there can be legal consequences for it.
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There will be much more broadly cultural consequences for it.
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And fewer people engage in that risky behavior.
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Which the monkeypox guy admits is very bad for people.
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Not bad like you get the sniffles for a couple weeks.
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He's honest in that this guy, this Satan-worshipping, leather daddy monkeypox czar,
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working for Joe Biden, is following liberalism to its logical conclusion.
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The logical conclusion that begins with the skepticism of liberalism.
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The idea that we can't really know what's good or bad or right or wrong or true or false.
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You know, we're just going to try to get along and be peaceable and increase our material prosperity
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The logical conclusion of that is, hey, one man's HIV orgy is another man's fun Friday night.
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But of course, engaging in these deviant, dangerous, destructive practices, sexual or otherwise,
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It might bring them a disordered, temporary sense of euphoria, but ultimately will bring
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Because when you do bad things, that makes you less happy in the long run.
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And when you do good things, that makes you more happy in the long run.
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And this is why, by the way, I cited a survey yesterday from Gallup that said that same-sex
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sexual relations has decreased in acceptability in the American consciousness.
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So not just the trans stuff, not just even redefining marriage, but even the idea of same-sex
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People now view it less favorably than they did a year or two ago.
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It's not because of your gay cousin who's got a live-in partner or something where they're
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perfectly pleasant and appropriate and have nice Thanksgiving dinner.
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And it's because of the teachers in the public schools who are pushing this radical ideology.
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And it's because people are seeing the logical conclusion of the sexual revolution.
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And they say, you know, we don't need to tolerate the monkeypox orgies.
00:31:14.800
That's not what James Madison wrote the Constitution for, okay?
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That's not what the Declaration of Independence is about, the new one or the old one.
00:31:29.000
This was a story that came out about a week ago.
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And I've censored it liberally so that you don't have to hear too much of this gross lesson.
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This is a high school teacher in Southern California giving a lesson on pleasing an orifice of the body.
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it's still very pleasurable because of the fact that it hits the, it hits the,
00:32:12.380
and there's a lot of nerve endings in your booty as well.
00:32:16.640
So the girls, the j***, prostate, they're the equivalent to each other.
00:32:22.380
But apparently, that's why if you ever see like, I mean, Target has them now.
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If you go to Target, seriously, if you go to Target and go where the tampons and pads are,
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But if you open up, there's like a Velcro front to the box.
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but you can use your imagination to fill in the blanks and what else she's saying. She's giving
00:32:47.800
the students this very graphic, instructive lesson on how to engage in deviant sexual practices
00:32:56.220
that are not oriented towards, say, the good of the spouses and the generation and the education
00:33:00.680
of children, traditionally understood as the telos of sexual relations, the purpose of sexual
00:33:05.140
relations, but on how to titillate people in ways by putting things where they're not supposed to
00:33:10.140
go. So some parents are up in arms about this. The teacher has been placed on administrative leave,
00:33:17.600
but students are defending the teacher. A student said, quote, as a student in the video, I would
00:33:25.080
like to say that everything taught by our teacher is educational. This is an anatomy physiology class
00:33:29.600
and people shouldn't put her on leave and she should be rehired. And I got to tell you,
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oddly enough, I'm with the students. I'm kind of on the teacher's side here.
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This is a gross lesson. It obviously shouldn't be taught in high schools. It obviously shouldn't
00:33:48.140
be taught a taxpayer expense. The kids are getting a bad education here. The woman is
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bad at her job if her job is educating people. But she's pretty good at her job if her job is
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following the lesson plans that her bosses set out. The woman is just doing the job that was
00:34:10.340
established by the school boards, by the state, now when we're talking about California,
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and by our culture more broadly. She's teaching a class on anatomy and physiology. We have classes on
00:34:22.800
sexual education. Sexual education now no longer has a moral aspect to it in the traditional sense.
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I guess it has a moral aspect to it in the immoral modern sense, which is to say any sexual behavior
00:34:37.580
that you find pleasurable is good. That's a moral lesson. It just happens to be immoral and it teaches
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the immorality of liberalism rather than the true morality of religion. But she's just following the
00:34:49.580
lesson, man. Don't fire her. She's doing her job. You should fire the school board members. In the case of
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California, you should fire the state administrators over education and the governor, Gavin Newsom.
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But we can't get mad at the foot soldiers for following the orders.
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If you get mad at that, you should say maybe she should quit her job or she probably doesn't know
00:35:10.260
any better. The people who really deserve our ire are the people who are setting the lessons.
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And that includes the governors, that includes the state administrators, and that includes
00:35:22.460
the number of people, often a very vocal, intense activist minority, but sometimes there's a
00:35:28.720
significant number of them. People, ordinary citizens who peddle this stuff. This is wrong. If you don't
00:35:34.760
want it in your schools, then you've got to vote the bums out and then whenever and wherever you can
00:35:41.540
wield political power to take the power away from these weirdos. Speaking of kids, there's a major
00:35:48.160
Supreme Court case that not a lot of people have been talking about, but it's a really heart-wrenching
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case over whether not white couples or black couples or Hispanic couples, I guess, non-Native
00:35:59.340
American couples can adopt Native American children. And whether tribes can demand Native American
00:36:07.360
children who've been adopted not be allowed to grow up in those cultures and have to come
00:36:11.340
back to the plantation. And the conservatives are kind of split on this issue, but it tells
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from Julia T, who says, RFK Jr. and Trump would be an effing insane combo. I'd be on board.
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Key there being insane. That's, I think, why a lot of people are ginned up for it. Because if you just
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think about politics in the way that politics has been in America for 20 or 30 years now,
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you say, well, that doesn't make sense because RFK, he's anti-Second Amendment. I think he's
00:39:01.460
pro-abortion. He's a lib. You know, he's a big lib. So why would I vote for a lib? But if you think
00:39:07.960
about politics in a little bit of a higher way, like a meta-politics, the politics of politics,
00:39:15.120
and you say, okay, hold on. Right now, the issues that are defining our political debates are to
00:39:20.600
some degree still these issues over, I don't know, say abortion or immigration or the economy or,
00:39:27.160
but at a larger level, the debates are over how we are even governed. Who even gets to decide
00:39:34.760
those questions? Because right now, the deep state, you know, the bureaucrats, the administrative
00:39:40.720
state, the permanent government, they broadly decide a lot of those questions, especially on
00:39:45.940
foreign policy, especially on things like trade. And the elections are kind of rigged. They seem
00:39:53.860
kind of rigged right now. And neither party really has faith in the elections among the rank and file
00:39:58.500
voters. So when you see the issue as being about a corrupt system, then all of a sudden,
00:40:05.700
these populist weirdo wrench in the system candidates, like Trump and RFK Jr., they start
00:40:10.780
to make a little bit more sense. The fact that you say, man, that would be effing insane.
00:40:15.740
That is kind of the best argument for that ticket. The best argument for a Trump-Kennedy ticket
00:40:22.220
is not that they're the most coherently, cohesively conservative, patriotic, whatever
00:40:27.960
candidates that you ever saw. The argument for that ticket is that this machine of state that
00:40:33.360
is operating now is very corrupt and is not responsive to the people and is not doing good
00:40:39.240
things. And so we just need to throw these people who don't fit into the machine and gum the whole
00:40:45.080
thing up. If that's what the election's about, Trump-Kennedy is a pretty good ticket.
00:40:50.660
So here's his case. Holland versus Brackeen. I'm sure I'm mispronouncing that. This is a challenge
00:40:59.040
to the 1978 Indian Child Welfare Act, which was created to maintain Native American culture by
00:41:04.520
prioritizing Native families in the adoption of Native children. And the case was 7-2. The only
00:41:11.080
people who voted against the claims of the Indian tribes to keep the kids, even if the kids had been
00:41:18.980
adopted by non-Indian parents, the only ones to vote against that were Alito and Thomas, who were
00:41:25.100
the two most conservative judges on the court. The Libs plus the other conservatives, they voted
00:41:31.160
in favor of the Indian Child Welfare Act, which prioritizes maintaining Native American culture
00:41:38.560
over the interests of the Native American children. And obviously over the interests of the non-Native
00:41:45.440
American families who have adopted these children. And there are all sorts of legal rights that were
00:41:51.020
involved in this decision. Tenth Amendment rights, you know, states' rights, the 14th Amendment right
00:41:58.940
to equal protection. But at a broader level, this case is a debate between liberalism and Christian
00:42:09.000
conservatism. Because if you've got a debate, if you are on the side of liberalism, classical or otherwise,
00:42:17.120
if you are on the side of nationalism, which crops up at the same time as liberalism, this idea that nations
00:42:25.020
have a pretty firmly absolute right to do whatever the hell they want within their own territories, among their
00:42:30.980
own people. If you believe that, and there are plenty of conservatives who believe that, and there are sort of
00:42:35.260
persuasive arguments, then you're going to side with the Indians here. You're going to side with the
00:42:39.660
Indian Child Welfare Act. You're going to say the maintenance of Indian culture, feather not dot,
00:42:44.540
is more important than the welfare of any individual Indian child. However, if you are on the side of
00:42:54.260
Christian conservatism, you're going to side with the Indian children here against the Indian Child Welfare Act.
00:43:01.420
Because if you're on the side of Christian conservatism, you're probably sympathetic to the particular
00:43:08.220
claims of a particular tribe, and you're not opposed to them having their own culture and traditions and
00:43:15.360
practices. But more fundamentally, you believe that there are eternal truths. You believe that you are called
00:43:25.220
to evangelize all of the nations, and you believe that your understanding of the truth has a special
00:43:33.440
claim all throughout the world. That we're not just going to live in some relativistic hodgepodge
00:43:39.960
of individual cultures and nations. And you can't judge my culture, and I can't judge your culture,
00:43:44.940
and stay out of my borders, man. If you're a traditional Christian conservative,
00:43:50.580
conservative, you're going to say, oh no, there is a God. He's a triune God. He loves us.
00:43:58.040
We have the gospel message. We've got a good culture here. And so we're not necessarily going
00:44:03.920
to be eager to go in and conquer you, or we're not going to make you convert at gunpoint or anything
00:44:08.480
like that. But if a Native American family puts their kid up for adoption, we get to raise that kid,
00:44:12.740
we baptize that kid, then we are going to continue to raise that kid. And your claims of cultural
00:44:18.260
particularity or whatever are not going to overcome the claims of baptism and the gospel and the
00:44:26.500
Western culture, Christendom, that we're going to raise this child in. And you're going to see
00:44:32.460
conservatives fall on both sides of this. There are plenty of strong conservative defenders of
00:44:37.180
nationalism, even of classical liberalism to some degree. But it is no coincidence that the people who
00:44:45.120
appear to be the most conservative, and I think the most conservative in a Christian conservative
00:44:49.220
kind of way, Alito and Thomas, they're the ones who come down on the side of the kids.
00:44:54.060
The others who are a little bit more liberal, a little bit less hardcore, they're the ones who
00:45:02.680
side with the actual court liberals and side with the Indian tribes.
00:45:08.200
Now, speaking of young people, great news coming out of Gallup. There's a lot of great news on the
00:45:15.500
horizon about the American people, even as the American government seems to decay. Americans are
00:45:22.120
overwhelmingly pro-life. Americans are overwhelmingly pro-life. According to a Gallup news survey released
00:45:29.460
this week, just 37% of Americans think abortion should be legal in the second or third trimester of
00:45:37.520
pregnancy. Only 22% believe that it should be legal in the third trimester. So well over three
00:45:42.440
quarters of Americans say you really should ban abortion in the third trimester. And about two
00:45:47.060
thirds say that you should ban abortion in the second trimester too. So you've got at least,
00:45:53.820
you know, roughly two thirds of Americans who say abortion should only be legal in the first
00:45:57.560
trimester. Now, unfortunately, the majority of Americans believe abortion should be legal in the
00:46:04.420
first three months of pregnancy. That's 69% of Americans. So that's the highest percentage
00:46:09.420
since Gallup began tracking the trend. So you've now got, you've got more Americans than ever who
00:46:14.360
think abortion should be legal in the first trimester, but you've got a cratering number
00:46:17.700
of Americans who think that abortion should be legal in the second and third trimester.
00:46:21.440
What does that tell us? I think it's basically good news in that if you were able to ban abortion in
00:46:28.640
America in the second and third trimester, that would be a great improvement over what we've got now.
00:46:32.980
So I'll take it. But it also shows you one of the downsides of democratic, lowercase d,
00:46:38.580
democratic politics, which is that it tends toward incoherence. You ever hear about the
00:46:45.880
independent voter? In America, in democracies, we always exalt the independent voter. But the
00:46:53.460
independent voter very often is independent because his political views don't make any sense.
00:46:59.100
So he'll say, I don't know. He'll say, I'm pro, I'm pro abortion. Well, I guess in this case,
00:47:12.860
you just say I'm pro abortion in the first trimester, but not in the third trimester. It's
00:47:16.400
the same baby. Why is it okay to murder the baby at one point, but not another point? Or you'll,
00:47:20.880
you'll see someone say, I'm in favor of transgenderism, but not for transing the kids.
00:47:26.900
Well, okay, if you're in favor of transgenderism, then you're making a claim about human nature.
00:47:33.740
And if, if that claim about human nature is true, it's true of the kids also. Or you'll,
00:47:38.460
you'll see someone say, I'm in favor of, uh, I don't know, any, any number of, of sort of issues.
00:47:48.280
Uh, they'll, they'll be a little bit confused. They'll support some social policies, but not
00:47:53.160
certain economic policies, it gets a little bit jumbled up. Now, a nice consequence of the hostility
00:48:02.500
between the people and the elite that we're seeing increasing is that elite opinion in this liberal
00:48:12.560
establishment is pretty reliably wrong on all of these issues, on sexuality, on immigration,
00:48:20.600
on the economy, on foreign policy, the elite opinion. If you open up the pages of the New York
00:48:25.960
Times, the Washington Post, you find whatever the opinion is there. You can 99 times out of 100 be
00:48:31.260
confident that that opinion is wrong and you should have the opposite opinion. Which means that as the
00:48:37.680
elites become more and more radical, more and more corrupt, more and more wrong, and the people
00:48:42.440
increasingly view the elites as hostile to them, the American people are going to become more
00:48:47.480
conservative. As we're seeing reflected in the polls on abortion, on sexual matters, on education,
00:48:55.000
on even economic matters, on foreign policy, on, you're seeing a conservatizing of the American
00:49:02.920
people. Will that be reflected in the polls? The question is how much power do the people have?
00:49:08.660
We would get to member block. And I would blame producer Jacob, but I cannot. I cannot blame him
00:49:17.320
right now. I actually sent him away. I've got to go to Gavin Nussolini's hellhole of California for
00:49:25.040
just a few days. We've got some projects we're doing out there. And so there's no member block today.
00:49:30.140
We'll join you again for member block tomorrow. I will miss you in the meantime, but until then,
00:49:34.060
I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.