The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1735 - Is The Pope Black？

00:00:00.000 Is the Pope black? It's not really an issue that Catholics care about. Catholic means universal.

00:00:06.840 The Catholic Church spans the whole globe. We venerate saints of all sorts of backgrounds.

00:00:11.340 We venerate a guy named St. Moses the Black and have for about 1,700 years. Race is not a big

00:00:17.600 issue for the Catholic Church, but it is a big issue for secular liberals whose opinions of the

00:00:23.300 new Pope are now changing in real time based entirely on whether or not the Holy Father

00:00:29.340 is an octoroon. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:32.500 Welcome back to the show. The libs really hate Afrikaners, the white South African farmers. 0.97

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00:01:07.940 Africa. Why? What did they ever do to you? I have quite a lot more to say first though. I want you 0.99

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00:02:39.080 There are very few occasions in 2025 when one can use the word octoroon. But I guess in day eight of

00:02:59.880 talking about the new Pope, the Libs are making us talk about that because they've discovered that

00:03:05.460 the Holy Father, Pope Leo XIV, might be slightly black. And this is changing the Libs opinion of

00:03:12.700 the Pope from skeptical or negative to good. There's one other thing that's also very interesting

00:03:22.380 to me because President Trump, as you remember, called Haiti a certain type of country. As it turns

00:03:30.440 out, our new American Pope has Haitian and black roots. So we actually have a black Pope.

00:03:38.880 Apparently, it's like chef's kiss for me. So apparently, both of his maternal grandparents

00:03:44.260 are described as black, Haitian, or mulatto in several census documents. And on their marriage

00:03:52.080 license, his birth, the grandfather's birthplace is Haiti, listed as Haiti. Her birthplace is listed

00:03:59.380 as born in New Orleans. They were identified as people of color. But in 1920, when they migrated to

00:04:05.000 Chicago, the census reflected their race as white.

00:04:09.240 So I'm loving everything about this Pope.

00:04:11.120 I'm really enjoying it.

00:04:13.820 You couldn't script this. They say, so, you know, the Pope, I mean, whatever, I don't really know about

00:04:18.400 the Catholic faith or what he believes or his views on social issues or LGBT or this. But I found out

00:04:25.040 he has a single drop of black blood in him. So now I love him because I hate white people and I love 1.00

00:04:31.020 black people. So now I like the Pope. You're telling me, hold on, you're telling me that the Holy 0.99

00:04:38.100 Father, Pope Leo, can wear traditional vestments, can speak in Latin, can sing the Regina Celi at the

00:04:48.500 Vatican, can oppose LGBTism and all the other kinds of social ideologies that the Catholic Church has

00:04:55.780 always opposed. He can do all of those things. And he just has to be slightly swarthy. Deal.

00:05:03.640 Where do I sign? I'm in. That sounds great to me, man. The other irony, of course, is that in this

00:05:08.760 papal conclave, the cardinal that many, if not most of the conservatives were pulling for to become the 0.84

00:05:15.180 next Pope, is Cardinal Sarah, who is quite black. He's not just a little bit black. He's a lot, 0.85

00:05:20.380 he's all the way black because he was one of the most, is one of the most traditional cardinals and

00:05:25.360 is just an all around great guy. It's really curious to me. It's not curious to me that the

00:05:31.760 left is reducing religion down to something relatively superficial like race. That is par for

00:05:37.800 the course. It is curious to me that all of these secular liberals care about who the Pope is.

00:05:46.320 Isn't that kind of weird? Shouldn't, sweet little Elisa was making this point to me last night.

00:05:51.180 Shouldn't all these women on The View, none of whom appear to practice Catholicism or any religion, 0.98

00:05:56.600 shouldn't they all just think the Pope is a crazy person? The Pope who is claiming this special role 0.92

00:06:03.480 from God where he, and he wears all of these interesting clothes and he claims a kind of

00:06:09.000 universal spiritual authority. Shouldn't the libs on The View think this guy's a total lunatic? 0.97

00:06:14.080 Why are they so concerned with it? Why does everyone care about the Pope? 0.89

00:06:18.800 Why has the Pope been the main thing that everyone's been talking about for at least a week now?

00:06:23.280 One of the main things people have been talking about for many, many centuries now.

00:06:27.300 What's that about? No other religion has that. Judaism doesn't have that. Protestantism doesn't 0.97

00:06:35.420 have that. Eastern Orthodoxy doesn't have that. Hinduism doesn't have that. Buddhism doesn't have

00:06:41.620 that. Buddhism sort of has the Dalai Lama, but he's not like the Pope. He's not this totally unifying

00:06:47.600 figure. And a lot of what he does is just kind of vague humanitarianism and, I don't know,

00:06:53.800 waving his Rolex in commercials or something. No other group has this. It's just the Catholic 1.00

00:07:02.340 Church. Almost as if the Pope is the vigor of Christ and a deliberate sign of unity of the one

00:07:09.260 holy Catholic and apostolic church. Almost. I don't know. And everyone cares about that and recognizes

00:07:13.280 that to some level, even the ladies on The View. I don't know. I don't know. Anyway, so enough about

00:07:16.700 the Pope. One additional quick point on religion. Joe Rogan just had a great episode in which

00:07:23.620 Joe was mocking atheists and atheists' condescension to religious people.

00:07:32.160 That there's always been something. Wouldn't it be crazy if there wasn't something at one point in

00:07:35.920 time? That seems even crazier than there always has been something. Because if it's just something,

00:07:41.660 if it's just the nature of everything, there is always something, right?

00:07:46.160 Right.

00:07:46.420 It couldn't be nothing. And then all of a sudden, everything. That seems...

00:07:50.580 Because what started that? What kicked that off?

00:07:52.540 Exactly.

00:07:52.800 What snapped its fingers?

00:07:54.400 That's McKenna's great line. Terrence McKenna had a great line about the difference between

00:07:58.880 science and religion is that science only asks you for one miracle. I want you to believe in one

00:08:03.800 miracle, the Big Bang.

00:08:05.220 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good one.

00:08:07.520 It's a great line. It's because it really is true. And it's funny because people would be

00:08:11.460 incredulous about the resurrection of Jesus Christ, but yet they're convinced that the entire

00:08:17.680 universe was smaller than the head of a pen. And for no reason than anybody's adequately explained

00:08:22.960 to me. It makes sense.

00:08:24.600 Yeah. No.

00:08:25.260 It's detainously became everything.

00:08:28.580 Yeah. Yeah.

00:08:28.940 Okay.

00:08:30.660 I can't buy that.

00:08:32.000 I'm sticking with Jesus.

00:08:33.120 Yeah.

00:08:34.140 Jesus makes more sense.

00:08:35.480 I love this take. And Joe Rogan is very, very good at this. He's got a little bit of the

00:08:43.800 Norm MacDonald trick, which is he speaks in a way that's so down to earth, that's so simple

00:08:49.920 to understand. He kind of seems just like a regular guy, but he's expressing ideas often

00:08:56.300 that are actually pretty complex. He's saying, yeah, science, you know, the difference between

00:09:02.800 science and religion, it only asks you to believe in one miracle.

00:09:05.240 But it's still a miracle. How are you supposed to explain how everything came from nothing

00:09:09.220 or came from this infinitesimally small singularity? How are you going to, yeah, I don't know,

00:09:15.100 bro. I'm sticking with Jesus. What a great line. What I love so much about this exchange

00:09:21.260 is, well, I love the ideas. I like that the ideas are getting out there, but really what

00:09:26.460 distinguishes this exchange is the vibe shift. Some of you listening out there, you Zoomers and

00:09:32.700 you Gen Alpha, you're not going to remember what the millennials and the Gen X and the boomers 0.94

00:09:38.660 are going to remember, which is that 20 years ago, for the past really, for most of the past

00:09:45.440 25, 30 years, atheists were the cool, preening, condescending, like hip, smart guys, and religious 1.00

00:09:56.080 people were the butt of the joke. And then that totally flipped. And the way it flipped now is you

00:10:02.480 get Joe Rogan and be like, yeah, so your explanation, atheists, is totally stupid. It's 1.00

00:10:07.720 like the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You make yourselves look like a joke. You're completely 1.00

00:10:13.240 ridiculous. I'm sticking with Jesus. Jesus makes more sense. That's the killer line right there. 1.00

00:10:20.980 You come out of the 2000s where you have Christopher Hitchens and Bill Maher was part of this and

00:10:26.220 Richard Dawkins said, well, you know, I don't believe in a flying spaghetti monster, as if anyone

00:10:31.980 believes in that. I don't believe in a man with a beard in the sky. And you think, no, you're a

00:10:38.940 pyromaniac in a field of straw men, to quote George Will. All of this condescension, and now that's

00:10:46.700 flipped. And Joe Rogan, I think actually your explanation, it's totally unsatisfying. I'm sticking

00:10:56.160 with Jesus. Jesus makes more sense. It's the vibe shift that you get out of the meme of atheists,

00:11:04.920 not being these really smart, posh, free-thinking, rational people, but the meme of atheists as 0.99

00:11:11.260 unkempt, unhygienic, fedora-tipping Reddit-using losers. That's the vibe shift. I'm not even talking 0.97

00:11:22.680 about the substance of the arguments, even though all of the evidence is on the side of the religious

00:11:27.280 people. None of the evidence is on the side of the atheists. But I'm not even talking about that.

00:11:31.420 I'm talking about the vibe shift. The same kind of vibe shift that 20 years ago would have had a

00:11:38.900 person who identifies as a Republican be the butt of jokes, the stupid person, the bigoted person, 1.00

00:11:45.480 the person without any friends, the person who's angry all the time. Total vibe shift. Now we're the 1.00

00:11:49.740 cool guys. We got one of the biggest pop culture stars in the world is our president. All the cool

00:11:55.360 guys are on the Trump team now. All the scolds and the angry people and the self-serious people and the

00:12:04.540 weirdos. They're the left now. Just complete, complete vibe shift. It has to do with the

00:12:12.620 substance, but it's a little bit distinct too. Before we get to any more pearls of wisdom,

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00:13:22.980 the libs have become so morally confused, so politically confused, they are now quibbling

00:13:29.240 over the definition of genocide on CNN. You know, there's this initiative from the Trump White House

00:13:36.420 to say, all right, we've taken in zillions of refugees in recent years. The vast majority of

00:13:42.420 them are not actually refugees. They're economic migrants from Latin America whom the Democrats

00:13:46.380 have imported, contrary to the law, because they think that they're going to give the Democrats an

00:13:50.140 electoral majority permanently. So now we're looking around the world, and there actually is a group of

00:13:55.440 people that is being persecuted by its government, by its countrymen, being raped and killed en masse, 0.94

00:14:00.920 and that is the white people in South Africa, the Afrikaners. So we're going to let a small number 0.97

00:14:06.320 of them in. I think it's something like 58 or 59 people at the moment. The largest number we would

00:14:10.760 let in is something like 70,000 who have applied. We're talking about 50, 60 people right now.

00:14:16.380 And the Democrats on CNN are so opposed to letting in a handful, a few dozen white people from South

00:14:24.260 Africa, that they are now trying to redefine genocide.

00:14:28.620 We have a refugee program.

00:14:30.180 I'm sure there's been violence against one side of the world.

00:14:32.780 There has been violence against one side of the world.

00:14:34.320 Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. I want to make a point.

00:14:37.740 Violence does not equal genocide.

00:14:39.400 That's right.

00:14:39.520 So we need to be really, really clear about that, because if you look at the violence-

00:14:42.740 If you're the dead guy, you may not say that.

00:14:44.480 No, I would say that, actually, because if you look at what genocide is, it is very specific

00:14:49.200 that you're trying to get rid of a people, a whole group of people.

00:14:52.580 There is violence in South Africa. They've had a very big uptick in violence, but black people 1.00

00:14:59.720 have seen the brunt of that violence, not just white Africans.

00:15:02.800 Let me ask this question of the panels.

00:15:05.360 Okay. I just want you to know violence does not equal genocide. No one claimed that violence

00:15:09.760 equals genocide. The claim was that white South Africans face a legitimate threat of genocide,

00:15:17.520 not because people are violent in Johannesburg, but because the two leading parties in South Africa, 0.79

00:15:25.400 two of the biggest political parties in the country, regularly chant, kill the bower, kill the farmer, 0.76

00:15:30.360 shoot to kill, gat, gat, gat. That's why. It's not even just the violence that actually occurs, 1.00

00:15:36.860 though there is a lot of it. It is that there is a program at the highest levels of the South African

00:15:42.320 political order to kill the white farmers because they're white. That's why. Well, 1.00

00:15:48.660 I don't know. Does that really, does that really qualify as genocide? Hey folks, I'm old enough to

00:15:53.700 remember when the liberal media, when these kinds of people accused me of genocide because I said that

00:16:00.180 men shouldn't go into the women's bathroom. You remember that a few years ago, two, three years ago, 1.00

00:16:04.820 I gave a speech at CPAC. I said, for the good of everyone, you got to stop letting fellas into the 0.97

00:16:09.340 girls' bathroom. It's not good for the guys who are sexually confused. It's not good for the girls. 0.58

00:16:13.840 It's not good for anybody. I was accused of genocide by the human rights campaign, the LGBT, 1.00

00:16:21.800 the Gay Stapo organization. I was accused of genocide by The Daily Beast, very prominent

00:16:26.520 left-wing magazine. I was accused of genocide by Rolling Stone, very prominent left-wing magazine.

00:16:33.020 I was accused of genocide. What was the other outlet? Oh, the UK Independent. I was accused of genocide.

00:16:38.740 It was just the first four that popped up on Google when I searched it up. So say that fellas

00:16:44.300 shouldn't go into the ladies' bathroom. You're committing a genocide. Call to exterminate all 1.00

00:16:50.440 the white people in South Africa. Shoot to kill, kill the Boer, get, get, get. Not genocide, really? 1.00

00:16:56.000 I mean, when you really think about the wording, are we sure? These are the same people. These are the

00:17:00.900 same people making this argument. And it's not just the CNN panel. It is the libs almost uniformly.

00:17:07.820 Don Lemon going off on how accepting even a handful of white South Africans as legitimate refugees

00:17:16.100 is racist. 0.97

00:17:18.380 This South African farmer bull, which is the most blatantly obvious racist ever. It is blatantly 0.99

00:17:28.980 obvious the way that we treat white South Africans who, by the way, for the most part,

00:17:35.180 and I am generalizing here. Some of the wealthiest people are well-to-do people in the country.

00:17:40.640 They speak their language. They own most of the land and the property. And somehow they're being

00:17:45.980 granted a fast track to become Americans while they're trying to cut down on immigration from

00:17:51.680 other countries. You know, you get that from where? From the brown people. 1.00

00:17:55.540 Okay. So Joe Biden can take in millions of Democrats over the last 10 years, take in millions of people

00:18:07.480 that they call refugees who are not refugees pretty much the whole time. They're not, 0.53

00:18:14.440 they're economic migrants. But as long as they're at least a little bit dusky, you know, 1.00

00:18:20.000 just have a touch swarthy. Totally fine. That's good. We have to, it's actually our obligation 0.99

00:18:25.100 because, you know, what do we mean by refugee? I mean, if you don't have a Lamborghini, you're kind

00:18:29.780 of a refugee, right? I mean, it's, they might not be actually persecuted, but they need to come here.

00:18:34.740 They're refugees. If you, if you disapprove of that, you're a horrible person. 0.87

00:18:39.900 White people who, even if some of them do have some money, are being raped and murdered 1.00

00:18:44.340 and targeted by their government, that's not going to work for us. You take in 10 million 0.99

00:18:51.780 brown people. That's good. That's wonderful. That's great. You take in like three or four 1.00

00:18:58.620 dozen white people. No, that's terribly racist. It's awful. You can't do it. So clear here that

00:19:04.200 Don Lemon either has or is pretending to have a true animosity toward white people. Don Lemon used

00:19:11.460 to, in the early days of his career at CNN, he used to seem more reasonable and moderate.

00:19:16.320 He wasn't one of these race hustlers. And then, I don't know, CNN broke him or they forced him to

00:19:20.980 take on that character. And now he's going all the way. Saying one should take in an unlimited number

00:19:26.820 of brown people as refugees, even if they are not refugees, but one should not even take in 50 white 1.00

00:19:35.120 people. That 50 is too much. Al Sharpton on MSNBC, same thing. So we're bringing in white Afrikaners 1.00

00:19:42.980 who we don't know if they're criminal. We don't know what they went through in the legal process

00:19:48.500 in South Africa. Hold on, hold on. We're bringing in Afrikaners. We don't know if they're criminal. 0.96

00:19:52.820 Now, they are being vetted. But even consider the broader context of this. Al Sharpton, who is

00:20:00.540 perfectly fine with millions of unvetted people who are by definition criminals crossing the border 1.00

00:20:07.680 illegally and doing so with the help of cartels, some of the worst criminals on earth, that's totally

00:20:12.480 fine. But the white Afrikaners who are being vetted, who are coming here legally through a refugee 0.95

00:20:18.900 program, one of them might have committed a crime that was never registered in South Africa. And so

00:20:25.000 because we're so tough on crime now, we got to keep them out. Millions of actual criminals,

00:20:32.320 by definition criminals, that's totally fine. He just hates white people. That's it. Or even if 1.00

00:20:38.920 they don't have a personal hatred of white people, which I think they do, but even if they don't, 0.85

00:20:43.340 they at least think what they've been telling us for years, which is they think that brown people

00:20:48.520 are going to be more likely to vote for Democrats, so they want the brown people. And they think white 0.97

00:20:51.640 people are going to be more likely to vote for Republicans, and they don't want the white people. 0.77

00:20:55.000 Because of that. And that's a little complicated because Trump has actually done much better with

00:20:59.560 Hispanic and black voters. But nevertheless, the broad trends still hold. So I guess that's it.

00:21:04.020 It's either that or they just go all the way and they hate white people. Because what is going on 0.98

00:21:10.320 in South Africa is the threat of genocide. It actually has nothing to do with the actual rates

00:21:18.200 of rape and murder, though rapes and murders of white South Africans do take place and take place

00:21:23.380 extensively. The reason that they face a threat of genocide is because their biggest political 0.99

00:21:29.780 parties sing this at their political rallies.

00:21:48.340 This would be as if you had Hillary Clinton or Kamala Harris or Pete Buttigieg walking out at a 1.00

00:21:54.660 political rally saying, shoot the Republicans, shoot them in their head, watch them bleed out on the 1.00

00:22:00.160 ground. Or even if you took it out of a political context or an ideological context, you say, go out 1.00

00:22:06.400 and behead the redheads, shoot them all, eat their brains. But it's instead of just some random weirdo 1.00

00:22:14.000 on TikTok, it's like one of the leaders of the Democrat Party. That's what white people are looking

00:22:21.180 at in South Africa. If that ain't genocide, I know the libs are really into redefining words. I wrote a

00:22:27.680 whole book on it, actually. It's called Speechless. But thank you. But if that's not the threat of

00:22:33.980 genocide, what is? Can someone please define it for me? I have many more thoughts. All right. But

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00:23:41.820 promo code Knowles. One last point on how much the libs in America just absolutely hate white South 1.00

00:23:49.600 Africans. Mr. Davies made the point before the show, the liberals in America might possibly hate 0.85

00:23:54.600 the white South Africans even more than they hate innocent little babies who were conceived 0.82

00:23:59.500 unintentionally. They really don't like these people. A prominent liberal TikToker, her name is 0.99

00:24:05.240 your favorite corporate auntie. She has over 100,000 followers on TikTok. She threatened to 1.00

00:24:10.520 murder the white South African refugees if they make it here. 1.00

00:24:14.180 Good morning. This is for the South Africans who are going to be entering the United States. This is 1.00

00:24:20.080 just a public service announcement. I just wanted to make you aware that the black people who were

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00:24:38.180 One more thing. I also want to let you know that our president, he has secret service and you will not.

00:24:44.580 Um, I also want to tell you that, um, black people over here are empowered.

00:24:52.820 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

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00:24:59.140 When you get here, sit your ass down and don't touch nothing. 0.98

00:25:06.820 Because you don't have secret service. Okay. Now have the day you deserve. 0.99

00:25:17.860 All right. Well, glad to see, glad to see this. If for no other reason, Dan,

00:25:22.180 we have finally found one group of migrants, one group of marginalized people that the left does not

00:25:28.260 like. Finally, it's taken decades. We found it. It's, uh, white people. Okay. All right. That's fine. 0.87

00:25:34.500 Speaking of violence, President Trump has just inked a $142 billion arms deal in Saudi Arabia.

00:25:44.740 This is, I believe, the biggest arms deal ever in history. This is part of a broader $600 billion

00:25:53.780 deal with Saudi Arabia that Trump signed at the start of his Middle East tour. Now,

00:26:00.340 the deal with Saudi Arabia is going to irritate another power in the Middle East. That would be 0.77

00:26:05.780 Iran. And this was not lost on Trump. Trump made this point explicitly. He said,

00:26:10.740 if Iran rejects an olive branch, we will have no choice but to inflict massive maximum pressure, 0.92

00:26:18.500 drive Iranian exports to zero, and take all action required to stop the regime from having a nuclear 0.99

00:26:24.100 weapon. Iran will never have a nuclear weapon. As you know, Saudi Arabia and Iran don't get along

00:26:31.300 that well. But you know who does get along well with Iran? Qatar. But Trump just yesterday and the

00:26:38.340 day before was talking about how excited he is to receive a free jet that can be used as Air Force One

00:26:44.020 from the Qatari royal family. So hold on. I was just told two days ago that Trump is a stooge for Iran.

00:26:50.580 Iran. Now I'm being told that Trump is antagonizing Iran because he's inking the biggest arms deal

00:26:57.380 ever in history with Saudi Arabia. Before that, I was told that Trump is betraying Israel. He's turned

00:27:04.260 his back on the state of Israel. But before that, I was told that Trump is a total stooge for the state

00:27:08.900 of Israel, even as a town named after himself there. What is going on? This is the true meaning of America 0.57

00:27:20.100 first. This is what Trump means by America first. Maybe it's not what everybody means by America

00:27:24.980 first, going back to Charles Lindbergh or any time in the hundred years since then. But this is what

00:27:30.820 Trump means by America first. America first is not, as its critics would deride it, isolationism.

00:27:39.780 Trump is not an isolationist. Trump personally has properties all over the world and has for 20 years

00:27:46.100 or more. America first does not mean isolationism as the critics would have it.

00:27:51.860 America first does not mean hyper nationalism. In some ways, Trump is an imperialist in many ways.

00:27:58.240 He wants to acquire Greenland. He wants to acquire Canada. He wants to take back the Panama Canal. 0.65

00:28:02.580 He wants, he has a global vision. He recognizes that America has interests. This is what America

00:28:07.280 first means to Trump, in my humble and correct opinion. America first means pursuing the American

00:28:14.360 interest, even when it conflicts with the interests of allies. America first means not being beholden

00:28:24.280 to any of America's partners around the world. It doesn't mean not having partners around the world.

00:28:30.140 We have great partners. We have great alliances. We have great alliances with Saudi Arabia and the state

00:28:35.220 of Israel, for instance, just to use these two examples. But we can also work with Qatar and we

00:28:40.200 can also extend an olive branch to Iran. We can even extend an olive branch to Kim Jong-un, for goodness

00:28:44.800 sakes. We don't need to constantly be at the throat of Vladimir Putin, but we can stand strong against

00:28:49.360 Vladimir Putin when we like it. It means pursuing America's interest and not being totally beholden to

00:28:55.600 the interests of another nation. It is what George Washington told us to do. Washington and Thomas

00:29:01.240 Jefferson, for that matter, to avoid entangling alliances. Not to avoid alliances, not to avoid

00:29:07.220 working with people. The American Revolution would not have been won without an alliance with France.

00:29:13.040 The old regime of France, not the head-chopping, liberal, crazy, radical regime that soon followed.

00:29:19.460 You need some alliances. You need to recognize that there is a global vision. We do all live on one

00:29:25.240 one earth. But you need to avoid those entangling alliances that will force you to compromise your

00:29:31.720 own national interest in order to follow along with the line of some supposed ally.

00:29:38.660 Is Trump on the side of the Qataris or on the side of the Israelis? Is he on the side of the

00:29:44.340 Iranians or on the side of the Saudi Arabians? He's on the side of America. This actually reminds me of a 0.67

00:29:50.080 great clip from John Bolton. I know John Bolton has fallen out of favor on the American right,

00:29:54.540 certainly with Trump supporters. But there's a great line of his decades prior where he's speaking

00:29:59.980 at the UN. And he says, there is no such thing as United Nations. There is the international

00:30:05.040 community and there is the interest of the United States. And sometimes those things intersect and

00:30:09.940 we're happy to work together when they do. But we're going to pursue the interest of the United

00:30:13.180 States. And frankly, you could obliterate three floors of the UN building in New York.

00:30:18.360 Wouldn't make a lick of difference. Certainly not to us. That is Trump's vision.

00:30:22.680 Now, speaking of deals, Joe Biden is considering a $30 million book deal. A publisher wants to pay

00:30:32.760 Joe Biden $30 million to write a book. I'm sorry I didn't warn you to pull over before I told you

00:30:38.940 that. Because Joe Biden at this point almost certainly cannot write his own name. Joe Biden

00:30:45.000 might not remember what his name is, but he's going to take $30 million to write a book. Obviously,

00:30:51.640 he's not going to write a book. Maybe his wife would write the book. She is a doctor after all.

00:30:57.700 Maybe they just hire a ghostwriter. He's not going to write the book. Who's going to write it? What's

00:31:01.040 the point of a book, the political memoir of this guy who's been in politics for 50 years,

00:31:06.700 the tell-all, his family's quite corrupt, people are interested in his family's corruption. What's

00:31:10.820 the point if he's not going to write it? It's just a payoff. It's a payoff for doing his part,

00:31:15.980 being a Democrat, punching the clock every day, finally getting out of the race. This is his

00:31:20.440 This is his version of the Barack Obama $20 million Netflix deal. Republicans don't get

00:31:26.140 $20 million Netflix deals. Liberal politicians do. It's part of the patronage system that allows 0.94

00:31:31.620 the Democrat machine to continue to operate. All right, you're going to leave office now,

00:31:37.560 but don't worry. We'll get you on the back end. Don't worry. Thanks for doing your part.

00:31:42.420 Joe Biden couldn't write his own stuff 40 years ago. He had to get out of the 1988 presidential race

00:31:46.360 because he couldn't write his own speeches. You're telling me now at age 150 when he's been

00:31:50.540 in dementia for 10 years, you think now he's going to write a book? I don't think so. This is, as we

00:31:55.000 often see, a payoff to loyal Democrats. Democrats are more or less admitting this already. Democrats

00:32:01.540 have come out, spurred on by a book that Jake Tapper wrote, to explain how Joe Biden really was losing

00:32:10.580 his marbles in the White House. And there was a massive cover-up. Here is NBC News reporting on

00:32:16.700 just how bad Joe Biden was looking in his final months in the White House. According to an excerpt

00:32:23.860 from the new book obtained by NBC News, it was, quote, obvious to many at a fundraiser last summer

00:32:29.580 that then-President Biden did not know who George Clooney was, even though they were longtime acquaintances

00:32:35.740 in Clooney as one of the most famous men in the world. The book, by journalists Jake Tapper and Alex

00:32:41.120 Thompson, goes on to say former President Obama, who was also at the event, had to hop in and finish

00:32:46.840 sentences for Biden during photo ops. In separate excerpts, the authors write that Biden would forget

00:32:52.760 the names of longtime aides and that there were internal discussions about putting the president in

00:32:58.400 a wheelchair in a second term. Okay, so Jake Tapper, one of the most prominent liberal journalists, 0.92

00:33:03.460 writes this book. Wow, you know, Joe Biden really was totally in the throes of dementia. He couldn't

00:33:08.160 recognize the people around him. He couldn't recognize some of the most famous people in the

00:33:11.220 world who have helped him for many years. And wow, that's so interesting to get that book in 2025.

00:33:17.640 But do you remember back when Joe Biden was still the Democrat nominee during the presidential race?

00:33:23.980 Do you remember what the NBC News Corporation was saying then? We're talking about the same news

00:33:29.820 corporation. We turn from Lester Holt on NBC to Joe Scarborough on MSNBC. Here's what they were

00:33:35.500 saying when it counted. But comparing that guy's mental state, I've said it for years now, he's

00:33:44.800 cogent. But I undersold him when I said he was cogent. He's far beyond cogent. In fact, I think he's

00:33:53.260 better than he's ever been intellectually, analytically, because he's been around for 50 years.

00:34:03.320 And, you know, I don't know if people know this or not. Biden used to be a hothead.

00:34:08.540 Sometimes that Irishman would get in front of the reasoning. Sometimes he would say things he didn't 0.98

00:34:13.800 want to say. This is and I don't you know what? I don't really start your tape right now because

00:34:22.100 I'm about to tell you the truth and F you if you can't handle the truth. This version of Biden

00:34:30.800 intellectually, analytically is the best Biden ever. Not a close second. And I've known him for years.

00:34:39.400 The Brzezinski's have known him for 50 years. If it weren't the truth, I wouldn't say it.

00:34:45.920 That's the same news organization.

00:34:50.040 Yeah, he was drooling and they were going to throw him in a wheelchair and he couldn't 0.66

00:34:54.320 recognize his closest aides. And he didn't know who George Clooney was. Not only one of the most

00:34:58.640 famous movie stars in the world, but also a top Democrat supporter. But back when it counted,

00:35:05.700 we are always the best Biden ever. What are you talking about?

00:35:09.340 I'm glad that Jake Tapper is trying to sell some books because it's just a reminder.

00:35:15.220 The liberal media will sometimes tell you the truth when it no longer matters. Sometimes.

00:35:20.740 They will never tell you the truth when the truth is contrary to their political interests

00:35:25.800 when it counts. That will never, ever happen. I might have to buy a copy of Jake Tapper's book

00:35:32.400 because the book might as well be titled Never Believe Us Ever. We are scheming liars.

00:35:37.580 We have no credibility. You should never under any circumstances believe us by Jake Tapper.

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00:36:45.460 My favorite comment yesterday is from Michael Shuey06, who writes,

00:36:49.280 saying LGBTQ plus Catholic is like saying conservative Democrat. That is truer perhaps

00:36:54.880 even than you intend it to be. It's like that in as much as, while technically possible,

00:37:01.540 it's mostly incoherent. There used to be conservative Democrats. Even in recent memory,

00:37:07.460 you still had Joe Manchin. It's not that it was totally impossible, but it just didn't make a lot

00:37:13.280 of sense. Same goes for LGBT LMNOP Catholic. You could have had that identity at some point.

00:37:20.960 You could have that predilection or whatever. But it doesn't make any sense. If you're going to

00:37:26.260 embrace the LGBT LMNOP identity, then go do that. Go do that and accept all of the various pagan or

00:37:33.800 Gnostic ideas that go along with it, which are contradicted by the Catholic faith. Or if you're 0.87

00:37:38.020 going to be Catholic, then ditch the LGBT LMNOP identity. But don't be Joe Manchin. Come on,

00:37:43.920 man. Make some sense. Pick a side. Don't be lukewarm. Speaking of young people, I don't know the

00:37:51.820 future of the Democrat Party. We got to pour one out. I'm going to pour you. I'm going to pour a

00:37:56.940 little tiny, just a little bit, just a little. I don't want to mess up my desk too much. I'm going

00:38:01.520 to pour a little one out for David Hogg. David Hogg, the former future of the Democrat Party,

00:38:10.660 currently the vice chairman of the Democrat Party. He's getting pushed out by his party.

00:38:14.980 David Hogg, you will recall, first came to political prominence when he took the opportunity

00:38:20.180 of a school shooting at his high school to go on every cable news channel possible and recite

00:38:25.280 left-wing talking points about gun rights. And this helped to launch him to Harvard, even though

00:38:30.480 academically, he didn't appear to be totally qualified for that. And then that helped launch

00:38:34.440 him into Democrat politics. He moved on from his putative issue, the single issue of back guns,

00:38:41.040 to the future of the Democrat Party. And he actually got himself elected vice chairman of the DNC,

00:38:46.140 but he's been a disaster in that role already. And he's threatening to upend party precedent by

00:38:52.860 spending 20 million bucks to primary Democrats. The party organization is not really supposed to get

00:38:56.980 involved in primaries. It's supposed to get involved in the general elections to beat the

00:38:59.920 Republicans. So the Democrats are going to throw him out. It reveals an irony of the Democrat Party,

00:39:06.200 which close observers have noticed for many years now, which is that it is much less Democratic

00:39:11.260 than the Republican Party. The Democrat Party has all sorts of mechanisms to undermine the will of

00:39:17.120 its own constituents. Things like superdelegates that could override the will of voters during primaries.

00:39:22.600 Things like these mechanisms here to void the election of David Hogg, to boot him out because

00:39:27.200 he's such a disaster. Now, I'm not even knocking the Democrats for this. I don't think that it would

00:39:31.320 be better for them if they were more Democratic and gave more power to the people because their 0.93

00:39:34.860 people are totally crazy, especially the party activists. I don't mean everyone who's ever

00:39:38.880 identified as a Democrat is totally crazy, but I mean the real party activists are nuts, man, 0.98

00:39:43.720 and they lost the popular vote and they lost the common sense. So you don't want those people 0.96

00:39:47.740 to have more control over your party because then you're never going to win an election again. So it's

00:39:50.620 very much in the party's interest to be able to control the insane impulses of its radical base.

00:39:58.240 But this reveals another aspect of the Democrats in 2025. Namely, they just want to destroy stuff.

00:40:07.100 David Hogg is a problem for the Democrats, but he's a microcosm of the Democrats' bigger problem,

00:40:13.280 which is that the Democrats just want to destroy stuff. David Hogg gets himself elected

00:40:18.400 to the Democrat Party. He can advance a vision of the whole party, one of the two major parties in

00:40:24.740 the U.S. and probably the more powerful party over the last century. And what does he do? He decides

00:40:31.460 he's going to attack Democrats and he's going to tear down the party establishment and he's going to go

00:40:36.080 after the elected Democrats and he's going to just destroy stuff. That's a problem for the party and

00:40:41.040 their right to throw them out. But that's America's problem with the Democrats. The Democrats just want

00:40:47.480 to destroy stuff. They want to tear down statues of the men who built our country. They want to tear

00:40:54.220 down our history. They want to tear down our self-confidence. They want to tear down the

00:40:59.660 ballasts of our economy. They want to tear down our borders and our walls. They want to tear down our

00:41:04.580 families. They want to tear down the definition of marriage. They want to tear down our babies and 1.00

00:41:08.860 slaughter them in the womb. They want to just destroy stuff. 1.00

00:41:11.480 and they don't have anything to replace it with.

00:41:18.020 So the feeling of revulsion that the Democrat Party is feeling toward one of its own,

00:41:25.220 David Hogg right now, is totally legit.

00:41:27.320 But the Democrat Party, if you recognize, that's the same revulsion,

00:41:30.940 that's the same rational revulsion that we feel against elected Democrats

00:41:35.040 because we realize that they present a threat to the whole political order.

00:41:39.960 They only want to destroy stuff.

00:41:41.660 And look, there is a time for destroying stuff,

00:41:43.700 but they don't seem to have anything to replace it with.

00:41:46.820 They want to tear down George Washington, but who are they going to replace him with?

00:41:50.420 They want to tear down our walls.

00:41:51.660 What are they going to replace them with?

00:41:53.040 They want to tear down our families.

00:41:54.160 What are they going to replace it with?

00:41:55.740 It's just criticism and destruction and corrosion all the way down.

00:42:03.120 So just as the party wants to protect itself from David Hogg,

00:42:05.760 we want to protect ourselves from elected Democrats.

00:42:07.580 That's how Trump won the popular vote in 2024.

00:42:11.140 Speaking of young people, really, really excellent news.

00:42:15.240 Much too late, but we'll take the win where we can get it.

00:42:18.880 One of the most notorious late-term abortionists is closing up shop,

00:42:23.620 specifically because of a decline in demand.

00:42:26.840 So you know how the Democrats tell you late-term abortion doesn't happen?

00:42:30.160 That is a lie.

00:42:31.460 You don't need to take my word for it.

00:42:32.800 You can take the word of a late-term abortionist.

00:42:35.580 One of the most famous in the country.

00:42:36.900 His name is Dr. Warren Henn.

00:42:38.520 He has the Boulder Abortion Clinic.

00:42:41.140 He is shutting down.

00:42:42.180 I figured he was shutting down because he's an old man. 1.00

00:42:43.880 He's 87 years old.

00:42:45.000 He said no.

00:42:46.460 He said it became impossible to continue,

00:42:48.360 but closing is one of the most painful decisions of my life.

00:42:50.880 Mr. Hearn, Dr. Hearn, does not kill babies who are 3 days old, 10 days old, 2 weeks old,

00:43:01.420 even 10 weeks old.

00:43:02.320 That would be bad enough.

00:43:03.340 That would be evil enough. 0.85

00:43:05.180 This guy pretty much only kills babies who are 28 weeks old and older.

00:43:10.900 These are babies who easily could live outside the womb.

00:43:14.860 These are babies who, if they were delivered and given up for adoption,

00:43:17.760 they would live, they'd go on to live perfectly happy lives. 0.95

00:43:21.300 And Dr. Hearn's raison d'etre is to go into work every day and murder those babies 0.98

00:43:27.100 who look like babies, who move like babies,

00:43:30.220 who that those two facts shouldn't affect our understanding of their human dignity,

00:43:33.640 but they often do in people's perception.

00:43:35.480 These are just babies, okay? 1.00

00:43:38.320 He goes in and kills them. 0.97

00:43:40.560 Hearn estimates that at least half and sometimes more of the women who come to him 0.99

00:43:45.380 are not doing so because they face a health threat by continuing to have the baby.

00:43:49.640 They're not doing so even because their children are diagnosed with Down syndrome or something.

00:43:55.000 Often those diagnoses are false.

00:43:56.940 Perhaps most of the time they're false. 0.97

00:43:59.540 But even further, we shouldn't be killing retarded people. 0.99

00:44:03.120 That's wrong. 0.91

00:44:03.660 That's a very, it's an evil view to have. 1.00

00:44:05.360 And that is the mainstream view of Democrats that we should murder retarded people 0.99

00:44:09.080 or people who have any kind of intellectual disability. 0.99

00:44:11.640 And they would yell at me for using the word retarded.

00:44:15.240 They would say it's wrong to say the word retarded, 1.00

00:44:18.040 but it is good to murder people for being retarded. 0.94

00:44:22.740 I'm not, even if you're not using the word in an insulting way, 0.98

00:44:25.440 I'm obviously not.

00:44:26.000 I'm using it in a very clinical way.

00:44:27.160 They would say, no, no, it's wrong to eat, to use this word in any technical sense. 0.99

00:44:30.880 Totally fine to murder these people though.

00:44:32.380 Now, this guy says that this late-term abortionist says 0.98

00:44:37.760 the majority of the late-term abortions that he performs,

00:44:42.180 it's not even because of those reasons.

00:44:44.440 It's just women who want to murder their perfectly healthy grown kids. 1.00

00:44:48.100 They just want to murder them because they're psychos. 0.99

00:44:51.020 This guy is going out of business. 0.99

00:44:54.200 This guy who, not to put too fine a point on it,

00:44:56.480 he has performed sex-selective abortions.

00:44:59.340 He's murdered babies, late-term babies,

00:45:01.680 because women go in, they say, 0.99

00:45:03.100 ah, you know, I really wanted a girl, not a boy. 0.99

00:45:05.080 Can you murder my son? 0.99

00:45:07.020 And then maybe I'll try again. 1.00

00:45:08.000 My like fully formed son, can you murder him? 0.99

00:45:10.500 I don't want a boy. 0.99

00:45:11.260 I only like girls. 1.00

00:45:12.080 I hate men. 1.00

00:45:13.960 I hate people with intellectual disabilities. 1.00

00:45:16.380 I hate babies. 1.00

00:45:17.220 I hate whatever. 0.96

00:45:18.480 He's going out of business.

00:45:20.400 He says, many women have difficulty paying 1.00

00:45:23.760 for the expense of late-term abortions, 10,000 bucks,

00:45:26.060 obviously not covered by insurance,

00:45:27.560 usually not covered by insurance, I should say.

00:45:30.120 But the economy's doing fine.

00:45:33.180 Is it just because the economy's had a downturn?

00:45:34.900 This guy's been performing abortions for decades.

00:45:36.760 No, no, no.

00:45:37.680 He said it's because donations are also decreasing.

00:45:40.920 He said it's because the overall support

00:45:43.260 for abortion is decreasing.

00:45:46.800 He said, I had to make a decision, really.

00:45:49.980 You knew sort of on the basis of the situation

00:45:52.240 at the moment that we couldn't continue.

00:45:53.560 It was very, very painful.

00:45:54.500 I see this as my personal failure,

00:45:56.800 that he will not be able to kill any more

00:45:59.320 almost fully run babies at the age of 87.

00:46:02.880 What should we do?

00:46:03.860 We should pray for this guy.

00:46:04.900 We should hope that we should pray

00:46:05.760 for all of his many, many victims.

00:46:07.540 We should hope that he has some redemption.

00:46:10.580 But every tear that this guy sheds

00:46:12.340 for not being able to murder any more babies, 0.73

00:46:15.240 I want to lap it up. 0.93

00:46:16.960 I want to lap up that tear. 0.99

00:46:18.380 This guy should be dog walked into a prison 0.99

00:46:21.640 where at the very least, 0.98

00:46:23.120 he should spend the rest of his life in prison.

00:46:24.560 Probably he's deserving

00:46:25.640 of a much more serious punishment.

00:46:28.040 But at the very least,

00:46:29.180 we can celebrate

00:46:29.980 that the culture is turning,

00:46:34.380 that the demand for this stuff,

00:46:36.260 it seems to have peaked,

00:46:37.580 that we're having a major vibe shift.

00:46:41.920 That's good.

00:46:42.520 We'll take the wins when we can get them.

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