The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1770 - New Data Pour Gasoline on the Epstein Conspiracy Fire

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00:01:50.240 There's new juicy info on the Jeffrey Epstein story.

00:01:55.200 And I think every time there's new information on the Jeffrey Epstein story,

00:01:59.160 it's the sort of thing where people who have been paying attention to this story

00:02:03.640 and how it fits in with broader politics aren't surprised by anything.

00:02:08.420 Of course, this is just playing out over time.

00:02:11.500 But the people who have only been paying a little bit of attention, they say,

00:02:14.980 wow, oh my goodness, this is shocking.

00:02:16.520 So here's the latest breaking news in the Jeffrey Epstein story.

00:02:20.840 That video that was released last week, the DOJ video, 10 hours of footage,

00:02:25.500 and then somewhere in the middle, the video kind of skips.

00:02:29.300 But turns out, according to a report from Wired, that the video was apparently modified.

00:02:37.580 So I'm just going to refresh your memory.

00:02:39.160 Do you remember this video?

00:02:40.500 11 p.m., 11, 58, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, wait for it, 55, 56, 57, 58, midnight.

00:02:53.500 Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.

00:02:54.280 We were just at 11, 58, 59.

00:02:57.940 By my calculation, there's a whole minute, minute and one second there,

00:03:02.140 and then it just disappears.

00:03:03.240 And not only that, but the frame changes, the whole picture.

00:03:07.540 It's not even like they're subtle about it.

00:03:09.380 The frame punches in.

00:03:12.480 So you say, well, hold on.

00:03:13.780 What happened in that minute?

00:03:14.820 And why did the frame change?

00:03:16.180 And was it just a minute?

00:03:17.300 And wait, what's going on here?

00:03:18.760 So breaking report from Wired.com.

00:03:21.940 Turns out that video was, in fact, modified.

00:03:24.360 I was waiting for them to have like an iMovie, iPhone iMovie watermark

00:03:29.880 over that really sloppy edit job.

00:03:32.720 It's so brazen that actually I'm beginning to wonder if the people who are releasing this information

00:03:41.880 want us to notice how little sense a lot of this is making.

00:03:46.980 This goes all the way back to last week when the Attorney General, Pam Bondi, who's under a lot of fire now,

00:03:51.200 we'll get to what President Trump is saying about that.

00:03:52.960 Will the Attorney General have to resign?

00:03:54.800 But the Attorney General had previously said on Fox News, was asked,

00:03:58.820 so there's a Jeffrey Epstein client list.

00:04:01.140 Are you going to release that?

00:04:02.200 And she says, I have it on my desk.

00:04:04.080 I have it on my desk.

00:04:06.000 It cannot be referring to the files because it is singular, not plural, as files is.

00:04:11.300 And it can't be referring to the files because the question that she was asked,

00:04:15.260 it was about the list, not about the files.

00:04:17.780 And she answered directly, said it.

00:04:20.020 So gets out in front of her skis, says, yeah, the list is on my desk.

00:04:23.680 Actually, there is no list.

00:04:25.980 That was the news story.

00:04:27.100 Actually, there is no list, but don't worry because Jeffrey Epstein killed himself.

00:04:31.180 How do we know?

00:04:31.760 Well, all the cameras went out in the jail around his cell, so we don't have the video footage.

00:04:37.320 Except actually, no, there were cameras and we do have the video footage.

00:04:40.400 We're going to release the video footage, but actually the video footage is going to cut out

00:04:43.420 right in the middle.

00:04:43.960 And it looks like it was done on Microsoft Movie Maker.

00:04:45.700 Okay, every time there's new information in the Jeffrey Epstein story, the story only

00:04:51.440 gets weirder.

00:04:53.440 So, so much so that I was at the Student Action Summit, the TPUSA Summit on Friday, had a lot

00:05:00.120 of fun.

00:05:00.460 You can check out my speech.

00:05:01.240 I'm sure it's somewhere online.

00:05:02.320 Charlie was posting clips from it.

00:05:05.060 Then I flew out that afternoon.

00:05:06.900 That evening, Tucker took the stage.

00:05:08.640 Tucker said, Jeffrey Epstein worked for Mossad.

00:05:12.240 So he went all the way out there.

00:05:13.640 He said, not only is there more to the story, not only is there a client list, but this was

00:05:18.100 an intelligence operation.

00:05:19.380 Not only was it an intelligence operation, but it was a foreign intelligence operation.

00:05:23.360 Not only was it a foreign intelligence operation, but it was a Mossad operation.

00:05:27.440 So is that true or not?

00:05:30.440 There's a lot of evidence that Jeffrey Epstein had associations with Mossad.

00:05:34.280 So what's evidence number one?

00:05:37.040 His business partner was Ghislaine Maxwell.

00:05:38.980 Ghislaine Maxwell's father, widely reputed to have worked for Mossad and maybe also worked

00:05:43.260 for MI6 and also may possibly work for the KGB.

00:05:46.900 But there's, there's one connection right there.

00:05:49.360 Further evidence.

00:05:50.620 Alex Acosta, who was the U.S.

00:05:51.960 attorney who prosecuted Jeffrey Epstein, got it, got him that sweetheart deal in Florida.

00:05:55.440 When he was up for labor secretary under Trump, he said that he was told in the Epstein saga

00:06:00.480 that it was above his pay grade because Epstein belonged to intelligence.

00:06:03.560 Okay, that's some information.

00:06:05.760 Some more evidence.

00:06:06.800 He wired all of his properties with cameras and maybe microphones and was filming really

00:06:12.780 rich, powerful people doing weird stuff with chicks.

00:06:15.360 That would be evidence of a honeypot's intelligence operation.

00:06:20.940 Further evidence.

00:06:22.220 He had a business relationship with Ehud Barak, former leader of Israel, and apparently met

00:06:28.380 with Barak many, many times.

00:06:30.240 Further evidence.

00:06:31.000 He was introduced to Barak by Shimon Peres, another leader of Israel.

00:06:35.100 Further evidence.

00:06:36.260 Well, he was obviously meeting with plenty of American political leaders.

00:06:39.540 Not only was he a member of Mar-a-Lago, which was owned by Trump long before Trump was really

00:06:43.600 in politics, but he palled around with Clinton.

00:06:46.160 And so on and on and on.

00:06:47.340 But that takes us a little further afield from Israel to just a broader intelligence up.

00:06:51.380 Okay, so there is evidence that would seem to suggest an association between Epstein and Mossad.

00:06:57.540 However, there's also evidence that undercuts that.

00:07:02.100 In fact, what's funny is some of the evidence that is used to link Epstein to Mossad seems

00:07:08.280 to undermine the Mossad connection.

00:07:11.420 Namely, there are these reports that say that Epstein bragged to girlfriends about being

00:07:15.680 a Mossad agent.

00:07:16.440 To me, that's the biggest red flag.

00:07:19.040 It's like any intelligence organization.

00:07:21.660 If some guy, ladies, this is advice to you. 0.99

00:07:23.740 If some guy is bragging to you about how he's in the CIA, the one thing I can promise you

00:07:28.680 about that guy is he's not in the CIA.

00:07:30.200 So if the reports are true and Epstein bragged about being a Mossad agent like Ghislaine Maxwell's

00:07:35.460 father, to me, that's exhibit A that he actually didn't really have a connection to Mossad.

00:07:40.560 Second piece of evidence that he wasn't connected to Mossad, the relationship with Ehud Barak,

00:07:45.120 the former leader of Israel.

00:07:46.960 It is kind of funny how all of the evidence pointing in one direction can also be used to

00:07:51.520 point in the other because Jeffrey Epstein apparently helped finance Ehud Barak, this former

00:07:56.860 leader of Israel, helped back him in a business deal.

00:08:01.360 If Epstein were working for Israel, wouldn't the money be going in the other direction?

00:08:05.680 Why would the money be going from Epstein to a political leader of Israel?

00:08:09.620 It would be going from the political leaders of Israel to Jeffrey Epstein.

00:08:12.420 That's a little bit strange.

00:08:15.900 Furthermore, where does the rubber meet the road?

00:08:22.960 Was Jeffrey Epstein actively blackmailing these guys?

00:08:25.840 Like, hey, Bill Gates, you do what I say or else I'm releasing the tapes buster.

00:08:29.220 Or was it just more a collection of compromise?

00:08:32.080 Was it was it some middle ground operation?

00:08:34.940 Was it that this was a kind of personal shakedown ring that then got mobbed up with intelligence?

00:08:41.900 Was it was it just Israeli intelligence or was it just the CIA or was it just some combination?

00:08:48.480 The answer is we don't know.

00:08:50.080 There is one other weird fact about Jeffrey Epstein that basically no one is talking about right now.

00:08:55.260 But this is a strange one.

00:08:56.360 There is there is an article from decades ago.

00:08:58.720 I think it was the New York Daily News that reported on how Jeffrey Epstein bought a townhouse

00:09:03.980 that had been seized from the Iranians.

00:09:07.480 And he he rented it.

00:09:10.040 Sorry, he rented the townhouse from the State Department, from the U.S. State Department.

00:09:15.080 And then you can find this.

00:09:16.440 I just retweeted it last night.

00:09:17.760 It's on my ex ex dot com slash Michael J. Knowles.

00:09:20.720 He he was renting it from the State Department and then he didn't pay his rent.

00:09:24.180 But so doesn't I don't know there the the layers of weirdness to this never seem to end.

00:09:33.860 And so the only if you told me Epstein was a Mossad operation, I'd say, OK, I believe that. 0.95

00:09:38.480 If you told me Epstein was not a Mossad operation, I'd say, OK, I believe that depending on the evidence you present to me. 0.68

00:09:43.220 If you told me Epstein had a connection to CIA or he didn't, I guess I would believe that.

00:09:46.820 If you told me he was connected to X, Y, Z, leader of state, head of state or head of government, I'd believe that.

00:09:54.340 The one thing I would say the one story that no one can believe is that he was just a rich guy and he was a pervert and he had all these rich, powerful friends.

00:10:06.680 And those two facts had nothing to do with each other.

00:10:08.560 The one story that no one believes is that the case is closed.

00:10:14.200 He had no clients.

00:10:15.100 There were no further crimes here.

00:10:16.540 Move along, move along.

00:10:17.440 Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison for trafficking girls to no one.

00:10:21.300 Nobody believes that.

00:10:22.680 And yet that is effectively the government's official story, which is why the attorney general is under fire right now.

00:10:28.500 Threats that maybe Kash Patel or especially Dan Bongino might resign from their leadership roles at the FBI over this.

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00:12:06.340 Will the Attorney General Pam Bondi have to resign?

00:12:09.880 Pam Bondi is the one who went on TV and said, I got the list on my desk.

00:12:13.780 Oh, whoops.

00:12:14.620 Actually, no, there's no such thing as a list.

00:12:16.240 Never mind.

00:12:16.780 Move along.

00:12:17.200 Move along.

00:12:17.780 So it's really bad.

00:12:19.100 It's getting a ton of blowback from the base, from very vocal Trump supporters, people who've liked him in the past.

00:12:25.080 Is she going down?

00:12:26.100 Trump has weighed in.

00:12:28.220 He's weighed in with a block of text.

00:12:30.780 So you know he feels strongly about this.

00:12:32.540 I'll read exactly what he says.

00:12:34.820 He says, what's going on with my boys and in some cases, gals? 1.00

00:12:38.720 They're all going after Attorney General Pam Bondi, who's doing a fantastic job.

00:12:42.520 We're on one team, MAGA, and I don't like what's happening.

00:12:46.140 We have a perfect administration, the talk of the world, and selfish people are trying to hurt it, all over a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein.

00:12:53.560 For years, it's Epstein over and over again.

00:12:55.980 Why are we giving publicity to files written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the losers and criminals of the Biden administration, who conned the world with the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax, 51 intelligence assets, the laptop from hell, and more.

00:13:08.460 They created the Epstein files, just like they created the fake Hillary Clinton, Christopher Steele dossier that they used on me. 0.57

00:13:15.260 Okay, hold on, hold on.

00:13:17.900 This is a little ambiguous.

00:13:19.240 They created the Epstein files? 0.91

00:13:21.540 Is what he's saying here that they were the ones who were in charge of the Epstein investigation when it really got underway, and so you can't trust the files they created?

00:13:30.320 Or is he suggesting they created the whole Epstein issue?

00:13:35.860 The latter, that would seem to be too far.

00:13:37.680 So I guess what he's saying is, well, they're the ones who were in charge when the Epstein files were being written, and so if you don't trust the Steele dossier, you can't trust the Epstein files, which is a much stronger argument, actually.

00:13:46.280 So anyway, he goes on.

00:13:47.720 Just like they created the fake Steele dossier, now my so-called friends are playing right into their hands.

00:13:52.700 Why didn't these radical left lunatics release the Epstein files? 0.92

00:13:55.200 If there was anything in there that could have hurt the MAGA movement, why didn't they use it?

00:13:58.500 That's a very good argument.

00:13:59.940 People are sometimes saying, well, including Elon Musk, Trump won't release the Epstein files because he's in them.

00:14:06.520 I was talking the other day on air, on TMZ, to Harvey Levin, who's a pretty liberal guy.

00:14:12.460 He's certainly no right-wing conservative.

00:14:14.440 And he said, look, I heard it from good sources that, sure, Trump is named in the files in as much as Epstein was a member of his club, and he was probably on the jet once or twice, just like apparently everyone was.

00:14:27.960 But he's not seriously implicated in them.

00:14:31.940 And that's Trump's point.

00:14:32.920 He says, if I were seriously implicated in the Epstein files, they would have released them years ago.

00:14:35.960 They tried to arrest me four times, and they tried to kill me.

00:14:38.880 So I think they would have released the files.

00:14:40.600 In any case, he goes on.

00:14:41.860 They haven't even given up on the JFK or MLK files, no matter how much success we've had securing the border, deporting criminals, fixing the economy, energy dominance, a safer world where Iran won't have nuclear weapons. 0.95

00:14:52.520 It's never enough for some people.

00:14:54.120 We're about to achieve more in six months than any other administration has achieved in over 100 years, and we have much more to do.

00:15:00.340 We're saving our country, making America great again, which will continue to be a complete priority.

00:15:04.760 The left is imploding.

00:15:05.520 Cash Patel and the FBI must be focused on investigating voter fraud, political corruption, ActBlue, the rigged and stolen election of 2020, and arresting thugs and criminals instead of spending month after month looking at nothing but the same old radical left-inspired documents on Jeffrey Epstein.

00:15:17.980 Okay, so you are seeing a narrative shift here.

00:15:20.660 You're saying be suspicious of the Epstein files.

00:15:23.820 Because they were made by the left.

00:15:25.780 Be suspicious of them.

00:15:27.300 Previously, it was we're going to release the Epstein files.

00:15:29.700 Previously, it was the Epstein files are on my desk.

00:15:31.500 The list is on my desk.

00:15:32.460 We're going to release them.

00:15:33.160 I'm reviewing them now.

00:15:33.900 We're going to pass that binders to influencers.

00:15:35.840 We're going to do all.

00:15:36.620 Now it's, hold on.

00:15:37.540 Forget those files.

00:15:38.480 They are suspect.

00:15:39.220 They're made by the left.

00:15:40.200 So that's a shift.

00:15:41.540 Then, goes on.

00:15:43.360 Let Pam Bondi do her job. 1.00

00:15:45.160 She's great.

00:15:46.840 The 2020 election was rigged and stolen.

00:15:48.460 It goes on.

00:15:49.580 Forget about Jeffrey Epstein.

00:15:50.560 All right.

00:15:50.740 Now, I suspected that Trump would back Pam Bondi.

00:15:54.720 Because he kind of has to.

00:15:56.300 Right now, you're getting these calls for Pam Bondi to resign.

00:16:00.240 And anytime.

00:16:00.920 You saw this in the early days of the admin, of the second admin.

00:16:03.620 Especially with Pete Hegseth.

00:16:04.620 The left just hated Pete Hegseth.

00:16:05.880 They tried to kill him at Senate confirmation.

00:16:07.600 Then they tried to make up all these scandals to get him out when he was sec deaf.

00:16:12.580 When he was already installed in the position.

00:16:14.320 And Trump had to back Hegseth.

00:16:17.360 Even if Hegseth screwed up.

00:16:19.080 Even if Hegseth left himself vulnerable.

00:16:21.340 It didn't matter.

00:16:22.000 Trump had to back him.

00:16:23.020 Because all the Democrats were after was drawing blood.

00:16:26.360 And so when everyone is calling on you to do something.

00:16:28.880 Even if you might want to do that thing.

00:16:30.340 I'm not saying Trump does want to fire Pam Bondi.

00:16:32.360 But even if you did want to do it.

00:16:33.780 If everyone's calling on you to do it.

00:16:35.280 You can.

00:16:36.200 Because that shows weakness.

00:16:38.180 And the left would be thrilled.

00:16:39.460 They'd be thrilled to get any of these top appointees fired.

00:16:41.640 Because it would just draw blood on the administration.

00:16:43.540 The administration is going quite well.

00:16:45.880 As Trump says in his tweet.

00:16:47.980 So he says forget about that.

00:16:49.600 It's not going to happen.

00:16:50.680 Now this doesn't quell the concerns at the FBI.

00:16:56.800 Because you're seeing reports coming out.

00:16:58.480 Kash Patel's not happy.

00:16:59.680 Head of the FBI.

00:17:00.880 And Dan Bongino in particular.

00:17:02.140 Deputy Director of the FBI.

00:17:03.480 This is a guy who left an extremely lucrative career.

00:17:06.260 Very, very prominent.

00:17:08.480 Making a ton of money.

00:17:10.020 Really wielding a lot of influence over the American right.

00:17:12.520 He gave all that up to serve his country.

00:17:14.780 To serve as the Deputy Director of the FBI.

00:17:16.660 Under President Trump.

00:17:18.400 And Bongino reportedly has been furious.

00:17:23.700 Over the way that this has been handled.

00:17:25.640 And mismanaged.

00:17:26.820 So there were some reports he's considering resigning.

00:17:29.000 President Trump was asked about this yesterday.

00:17:30.440 Don't tell him you're talking to the FBI.

00:17:33.900 Talk to him when you talk to him.

00:17:34.720 Oh, I think so.

00:17:35.760 I did.

00:17:36.220 I spoke to him today.

00:17:38.040 Dan Bongino.

00:17:39.140 Very good guy.

00:17:40.180 I've known him a long time.

00:17:42.000 I've done his show many, many times.

00:17:44.280 And he sounded terrific, actually.

00:17:46.420 No, I think he's in good shape.

00:17:47.760 So this is Trump.

00:17:54.560 This is one of Trump's big skills.

00:17:56.440 And it's something that the left totally misunderstands about him.

00:17:58.400 They say he's a divider.

00:17:59.740 He's reckless.

00:18:00.740 He's impetuous.

00:18:01.780 He splits people up.

00:18:03.220 No.

00:18:04.240 The guy is a uniter.

00:18:05.580 To use a phrase from George W. Bush.

00:18:07.280 He's a uniter, not a divider.

00:18:09.140 He's a uniter.

00:18:10.920 And he's got to keep the team together.

00:18:13.020 He's a uniter.

00:18:13.680 He brings in new people to his coalition.

00:18:15.660 The Maha hippies and a lot of Hispanics and a lot of black people and a lot of women. 0.97

00:18:21.020 And he brings all these people in together.

00:18:24.000 And here, he's got to keep the team together.

00:18:26.080 He doesn't want Dan Bongino to quit.

00:18:28.080 He doesn't want Pam Bondi to be fired.

00:18:30.540 He doesn't want his administration to go down because of Jeffrey Epstein.

00:18:34.760 Jeffrey Epstein, whether he was just an individual pervert,

00:18:37.440 no ties to any interests, foreign or domestic,

00:18:41.500 in which case you've already got the full story.

00:18:43.980 Or Jeffrey Epstein, super duper triple agent for Mossad, the CIA, MI6, maybe the KGB.

00:18:51.520 Who knows?

00:18:52.160 He's got every connection around the world,

00:18:54.940 in which case you've got all the information you're ever going to get.

00:18:58.020 Either way, though, as I said when the administration said there's nothing more to know about Epstein,

00:19:03.580 I said I'm not surprised about this because any way you slice it,

00:19:07.000 you are never going to get more info.

00:19:08.340 Governments are not fully transparent.

00:19:10.160 They cannot be fully transparent.

00:19:11.920 There is a world in which releasing these Epstein files could do everything from open people up

00:19:19.480 to major defamation lawsuits because you're releasing hearsay about people based on unsubstantiated

00:19:25.900 allegations, unprosecuted stuff.

00:19:28.140 That could be a problem for the government. 0.98

00:19:30.000 All the way to this could implicate heads of government, heads of state.

00:19:33.280 It very likely does.

00:19:34.680 And you could see a fraying of the world order.

00:19:36.240 You could see civil wars break out because of this.

00:19:38.980 And Trump, being responsible, says that he can't do it.

00:19:42.680 But anywhere along that continuum, it's going to be very, very frustrating.

00:19:46.940 And Trump just wants to move on.

00:19:48.420 In fact, I said from the beginning, I said I suspect the person who's most frustrated

00:19:53.120 about not being able to release these files is Trump himself.

00:19:58.220 But that's what happens sometimes.

00:19:59.460 So he's holding it together.

00:20:01.180 I think this seems to be successful.

00:20:02.660 Looks like Bongino is not going to retire, which is good because I love Dan Bongino.

00:20:06.640 And it looks like Kash Patel is not going to resign.

00:20:09.200 And it looks like Pan Bondi is not going to be fired.

00:20:10.980 And they are going to keep moving on.

00:20:12.960 All of that said, this is the biggest threat to cohesion in the second term.

00:20:18.120 Full stop.

00:20:19.120 It's the biggest threat to cohesion.

00:20:20.560 It's the biggest threat to the MAGA coalition because it is deeper than Jeffrey Epstein.

00:20:25.600 When Trump says, who cares about Jeffrey Epstein, the guy who never dies? 1.00

00:20:28.900 This guy's a jerk. 1.00

00:20:29.980 When Trump says that, he's referring to Jeffrey Epstein, this guy he knew that he kicked out 1.00

00:20:33.760 of Mar-a-Lago Club 20 years ago.

00:20:35.660 That's not what Jeffrey Epstein means to most people.

00:20:37.760 To most people, Jeffrey Epstein is the face of corruption, of a lack of accountability,

00:20:45.140 of the dark, nefarious tactics taken up by the deep state and the financial actors and

00:20:54.420 the business interests and the intelligence services.

00:20:57.540 And he is just the face of this corruption.

00:21:00.640 And Trump was elected in large part, going back to 2016, to drain that corruption out

00:21:06.200 of the swamp.

00:21:07.620 And so if the Trump administration can't claim a scalp on Epstein, if they can't even release

00:21:13.660 some new names, if no one's going to be prosecuted, Ghislaine Maxwell looks like she's in prison 1.00

00:21:17.300 for trafficking girls to no one, then it's dispiriting for the MAGA coalition.

00:21:24.480 That's why Jeffrey Epstein matters to them.

00:21:27.100 Again, you're not going to hear me.

00:21:28.160 They're going to be playing people on the right who say, and that's why they need to

00:21:30.140 release all the files.

00:21:30.920 And that's why we need total truth.

00:21:31.780 That's not me.

00:21:32.420 I don't think that's true.

00:21:33.220 I totally get it.

00:21:34.300 I am totally sympathetic to the position that Trump is in right now.

00:21:39.740 I'm just telling you, this issue is not going to go away overnight.

00:21:44.280 It's not going to go away because it is a symbol of something much deeper that cuts in many

00:21:49.340 ways to the core of the MAGA movement political identity.

00:21:53.560 And so I think, I've also said from the beginning of this latest episode in Epstein, the administration

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00:22:04.520 It's not, people will move on eventually.

00:22:07.960 They move on from all political issues.

00:22:09.360 They're not going to move on anytime soon.

00:22:12.700 You got to fix it.

00:22:14.660 You're seeing frustration here coming all the way from the top of the FBI.

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00:23:43.960 Cash Patel, head of the FBI, tweets out, the conspiracy theories just aren't true.

00:23:50.700 Never have been.

00:23:52.380 It's an honor to serve as the president of the United States, sorry, to serve the president

00:23:56.620 of the United States, Donald Trump.

00:23:58.020 And I will continue to do so for as long as he calls on me.

00:24:00.780 Okay, I'm not going to quit.

00:24:02.260 Not surprising.

00:24:03.440 Love Trump.

00:24:04.360 Not surprising.

00:24:05.800 The conspiracy theories aren't true and never have been.

00:24:08.380 Hold on.

00:24:10.360 That's not true.

00:24:11.900 That's not true.

00:24:12.620 Because I'm old enough to remember a conspiracy theory from five years ago, which is that the

00:24:19.120 coronavirus, COVID, was not a naturally occurring virus.

00:24:24.820 Remember?

00:24:26.180 When we said that at the time we were called conspiracy theorists, that one turned out to

00:24:29.380 be true.

00:24:30.920 When we said that the COVID didn't come from a bad batch of bat soup in a Wuhan wet market, 1.00

00:24:35.660 that it actually probably came to that really high-level biolab right next door, we were

00:24:39.320 called conspiracy theorists.

00:24:40.620 That turned out to be true.

00:24:41.760 When we said the U.S. government might have even been involved in funding that lab, we

00:24:46.360 were called conspiracy theorists.

00:24:47.640 That turned out to be true.

00:24:48.900 When we said that people like Anthony Fauci were funding gain-of-function research in

00:24:53.240 China, we were called conspiracy theorists.

00:24:55.600 That turned out to be true.

00:24:56.420 A lot of conspiracy theories do turn out to be true.

00:24:59.300 So you can't say the conspiracy theories just aren't true.

00:25:01.300 They never have been.

00:25:03.000 Hold on.

00:25:03.500 You can't tell me that.

00:25:04.220 There are plenty of conspiracy theories that are false.

00:25:09.700 And now we're at a moment, because the establishment has so destroyed its credibility, we're at

00:25:13.420 a moment where people assume if a thing is known to be a conspiracy theory, that it must

00:25:17.320 be true.

00:25:18.020 That is just as dangerous.

00:25:19.560 To think that every conspiracy theory is true is just as dangerous as thinking that no conspiracy

00:25:23.000 theories are true.

00:25:23.600 But I don't know what Kash Patel is telling me here.

00:25:28.780 Some of them are true.

00:25:29.840 I guess he's probably speaking directly about Jeffrey Epstein and saying they were never

00:25:32.640 true.

00:25:32.980 What do you mean they were never true?

00:25:34.700 What's the conspiracy theory?

00:25:35.860 Here's one moderate conspiracy theory.

00:25:38.820 Jeffrey Epstein was mobbed up with very rich and influential people, and they were doing

00:25:41.860 weird sex stuff with young girls.

00:25:44.240 You're telling me that's not true?

00:25:45.840 I think that one's at least true. 0.83

00:25:48.980 Well, if that one's true, then how come no one's being prosecuted for it?

00:25:52.400 At least that one's true.

00:25:53.800 You don't need to go all the way to saying Epstein was a Mossad agent.

00:25:57.440 Epstein was a CIA agent.

00:25:58.980 Epstein was the right-hand man to Bill Clinton.

00:26:01.560 You don't need to go all the way to those things to say that some of the conspiracy facts

00:26:08.280 about Jeffrey Epstein were true.

00:26:10.680 And there seems to be some conspiracy here.

00:26:12.880 There was a conspiracy between Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.

00:26:15.340 There was a conspiracy between Jeffrey Epstein and Ehud Barak, even if it was just a little

00:26:21.260 business conspiracy.

00:26:22.080 There was a conspiracy between Jeffrey Epstein and Les Wexner, his big patron, his big private

00:26:28.760 sector patron, at least.

00:26:30.220 There was, there, come on, man.

00:26:32.560 There was some conspiracy.

00:26:33.500 Furthermore, I go even further defending the conspiracy theorists.

00:26:37.880 I was talking to a great friend of mine, very, very mainstream woman, who, about another friend

00:26:42.240 of ours who was really into conspiracy theories. 0.50

00:26:44.020 And half the stuff she said was completely insane, completely nuts.

00:26:47.740 But we were talking, we said, you know, why do we like this girl so much?

00:26:50.100 And my friend said, because conspiracy theorizing is the sign of an active mind.

00:26:56.920 Now, activity is not always a good thing, but at least if you're trying to connect the dots

00:27:02.000 like Charlie Day in Always Sunny, you're, you know, it was this, and it was that, and it

00:27:06.500 was this guy, and it's a sign that at least you're thinking.

00:27:11.560 And which you want to be thinking, that's good.

00:27:13.700 Now, when you're considering conspiracy theories, I guess, and this does pertain to Epstein,

00:27:19.560 the one pitfall that people fall into is they become monocausal.

00:27:25.220 Every conspiracy points back to the very same thing.

00:27:28.520 I remember this a few years ago when the World Economic Forum was the big hot topic that everyone

00:27:32.380 was talking about, and every single problem in the world came from the World Economic Forum.

00:27:36.820 Do you remember this?

00:27:37.560 It's all from Klaus Schwab.

00:27:39.060 Klaus Schwab was the great puppet master who controlled the whole world.

00:27:41.800 Klaus Schwab has done all sorts of bad things and all sorts of mistaken things.

00:27:49.700 The World Economic Forum has backed a lot of bad stuff.

00:27:52.440 The World Economic Forum is not the cause of all the troubles in the world. 0.89

00:27:55.640 Now, I think we look back at that one, we say, oh, that's kind of silly.

00:27:58.800 Or George Soros. 0.97

00:27:59.620 George Soros is a really bad guy.

00:28:01.100 He's done lots of really bad things.

00:28:02.220 He's not the cause of all the problems in the world.

00:28:05.140 Or the deep state, whatever exactly is meant by that.

00:28:09.260 Or the CIA has been involved in some bad things.

00:28:11.180 The CIA has been involved in some very good things, too, by the way, all right?

00:28:13.940 The CIA has done some actually really good, heroic things.

00:28:17.200 But they've also been involved in some bad things.

00:28:18.920 You can't say it's all monocausal.

00:28:21.260 Or Israel. 0.64

00:28:23.340 Israel is kind of a hot topic right now.

00:28:25.040 Israel has done lots of bad things. 0.71

00:28:27.460 Israel's also been on some good things, too.

00:28:30.940 It's not.

00:28:32.840 If you're, even for me, the one that I fall into, the one where I start to sound monocausal is when I blame everything on liberalism.

00:28:38.480 But liberalism meaning going back to even the classical liberalism.

00:28:41.640 And liberalism has caused a ton of problems.

00:28:44.000 But even liberalism is not responsible for all the evil in the world.

00:28:46.740 In fact, the only conspiracy theory for which you should be monocausal and which actually does create all the problems in the world is if you go all the way back to the Garden of Eden.

00:28:56.940 That's really where it lies.

00:28:57.840 And when Adam sins, when Eve hands that apple to her husband and they sin and they're ejected from the Garden of Eden and sin and death pervade the world.

00:29:09.540 That is the monocausal creation of all these problems, which is to say it's man's disobedience to God and man's pride to think that he will become as a god.

00:29:21.260 And that problem manifests itself in all sorts of arenas.

00:29:25.340 And that is the cause of the evil conspiracies, every single one of them, in business, in government, in foreign affairs, in domestic affairs, in all of it.

00:29:33.880 That's the problem.

00:29:34.560 But whatever the true story with Jeffrey Epstein, I promise you, it's a lot more nuanced and complicated than heard or it was the CIA, or it was Mossad, or it was Les Waxner, or it was Bill Clinton, or it was just the Clintons.

00:29:52.320 The Clintons used to get most of the blame for the Epstein thing. 0.97

00:29:54.640 Or it was Bill Gates, or it was, no, no, no.

00:29:57.240 It was probably like everybody to some degree, which is one of the reasons it's not going to come out.

00:30:06.320 But the one crazy conspiracy theory, I hate telling you, Kash Patel seems like a nice guy, but the one crazy conspiracy theory I cannot believe is that the conspiracy theories are just never true.

00:30:16.920 That's the craziest conspiracy theory I've heard in a long time.

00:30:20.240 Okay, speaking of crime, President Trump is catching flack now, not for any of the Epstein stuff or whatever, but because of a more nuts and bolts political issue.

00:30:30.780 He is being accused of supporting amnesty.

00:30:33.880 You remember Trump a week or so ago.

00:30:35.820 Trump came out and he said, hey, yeah, deportations are going great.

00:30:39.040 It's awesome.

00:30:40.360 Some of Trump's critics are saying he's not deporting enough.

00:30:42.600 He's not even deporting as many people as Barack Obama.

00:30:44.520 But what that's not taking into account is the Center for Immigration Studies report that came out that one million illegal aliens have self-deported, which has been an active priority of the administration.

00:30:53.940 It seems to have really happened if you look at labor force numbers.

00:30:56.260 So in any case, I think deportations are actually going pretty well, especially in the smart way that the Trump administration is going about it.

00:31:02.000 But he said, we're not going to go after farm workers.

00:31:04.660 We're not going to go after hotel workers anymore.

00:31:06.220 And this caused a little bit of a rift in his support.

00:31:10.980 He said, hold on, we voted for mass deportations.

00:31:12.960 What do you mean you're not going to go after farm workers?

00:31:14.560 Are they here illegally?

00:31:16.120 Have farm workers never committed rape or murder or any of the other additional crimes?

00:31:20.020 Hold on, what are you talking about?

00:31:21.680 Hotel workers?

00:31:22.340 Why do hotel workers get a free pass? 0.89

00:31:24.520 Are you advocating amnesty for these people?

00:31:29.300 Here's President Trump's response.

00:31:31.660 We're an American workforce.

00:31:33.520 So all of the above.

00:31:34.540 We've got to give the farmers the people they need, but we're not talking amnesty.

00:31:39.820 Trump clarifies this is we're not talking amnesty.

00:31:42.640 Now, in a very literal, immediate way, this is a kind of amnesty.

00:31:47.660 Because you're saying, all right, if you're in these sectors, we're not going to arrest you.

00:31:50.440 He's not saying we'll never arrest you in the long run.

00:31:52.200 He's not saying that you get to stay here, you get some permanent residency status or something.

00:31:55.960 Nothing like that.

00:31:56.820 But it is literally, in the short term, a kind of an amnesty.

00:32:01.520 But Trump wants to clarify this.

00:32:02.920 But I am not talking about real, serious amnesty.

00:32:06.940 So what is he talking about?

00:32:10.800 His solution here is basically let them live in the shadows.

00:32:14.880 Which is a really positive development in our politics.

00:32:18.020 Because I remember during the immigration debates 10, 15 years ago, gang of eight.

00:32:23.020 We're talking about a big bipartisan deal to give mass amnesty to a bunch of illegals.

00:32:27.480 Luckily, that was averted.

00:32:29.800 The pro-migration, pro-amnesty argument was, what are you going to do for these then 5 or 10 million people?

00:32:38.700 Now it's 11 to 16 million.

00:32:40.000 What are you going to do for these millions of people?

00:32:42.260 What are you going to have them do?

00:32:43.120 Just live in the shadows?

00:32:45.300 Well, one thing we know we can't have on immigration is the status quo.

00:32:49.460 What are we going to do?

00:32:50.460 Just let these millions of people live in the shadows?

00:32:54.740 To which the anti-migration people, the anti-amnesty people would say, yeah, that's better than amnesty.

00:33:03.920 Ideally, we deport them all. 0.99

00:33:06.020 But if you're not going to deport all these millions of people, yeah, just let them live in the shadows like they've been doing for decades. 0.98

00:33:11.140 Why not?

00:33:13.480 That's great.

00:33:13.860 Then their kids get citizenship.

00:33:15.100 That's great for you guys.

00:33:16.040 How conciliatory are we being?

00:33:18.900 Yeah, what do you mean?

00:33:19.580 Why can't we let them live in the shadows?

00:33:21.140 Well, we can't just let them live in the shadows.

00:33:24.340 Why not?

00:33:26.280 But we have to give them amnesty because they're here.

00:33:28.360 We have to give them citizenship because they're here. 0.99

00:33:30.440 The let them live in the shadows position, as I recall, was the Ann Coulter position.

00:33:36.740 Ann Coulter, as hawkish on immigration as anyone there is and totally right about it. 1.00

00:33:40.740 So the positive shift here is, even as President Trump is being criticized for a kind of an amnesty, says I'm not giving amnesty, his position that is now considered the moderate to even conciliatory liberal position was basically the most conservative position on immigration there was 10, 15 years ago.

00:34:00.520 Now, I still don't want to go easy on the farm workers and the hotel workers, but that is a good shift. 0.99

00:34:06.660 This is a reminder that what happened in November is you had the popular vote won by a candidate who was openly campaigning on mass deportations, not just of guys with face tattoos, not just guys selling fentanyl, but abuela cooking rice.

00:34:21.000 Okay, hardcore mass deportation.

00:34:23.660 That won 46% of the vote.

00:34:26.000 Now, the left-wing position is let them live in the shadows.

00:34:32.620 That's fine by me.

00:34:33.260 That means we need to keep pushing.

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00:35:08.020 My favorite comment on Friday was from J30K, who says, if there is a victim list, there should be a client list.

00:35:15.460 Yes, of course.

00:35:16.380 And it's kind of silly and, I think, obtuse when people say, well, look, we looked through the files.

00:35:21.580 There's no list.

00:35:22.240 When we ask for the client list, we're not saying I want page 352 of the files, where on nice lined ruled paper, it says, number one, Bill Gates.

00:35:34.660 Number two, Prince Andrew.

00:35:36.200 Number three.

00:35:36.660 We're saying there obviously is a list because there were associates of Epstein.

00:35:43.440 You can't tell me there's no list.

00:35:45.480 I can start the list for you right now.

00:35:47.700 Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, Les Wexner.

00:35:52.460 What do you mean there's no list?

00:35:53.660 No, there are people, we want, you need to write the list.

00:35:57.440 But what you can't tell, how is there a victim list if there's no client list?

00:36:00.060 Very well put.

00:36:00.820 Very, very well put.

00:36:02.940 Okay.

00:36:04.440 Speaking of illegals, great news out of President Trump's Department of Education.

00:36:08.820 They've ended free tuition for illegal aliens.

00:36:12.300 Now, this came out, the Department of Ed says that they're going to revoke a Clinton-era rule that allows illegal aliens to access taxpayer funds for technical and career schools.

00:36:26.100 So vocational training, since Bill Clinton, illegal aliens have been able to get taxpayers to foot the bill for their education. 0.81

00:36:34.100 I think a lot of people, even before they celebrate that Trump has revoked this, a lot of people are going to be shocked that this was ever in place in the first place.

00:36:45.340 Linda McMahon, post-sangularity educations funded by the federal government should benefit American citizens, not illegal aliens.

00:36:52.320 Under President Trump's leadership, hardworking American taxpayers will no longer foot the bill for illegal aliens to participate in our career, technical, or adult education programs or activities. 0.91

00:37:01.260 Okay, good stuff.

00:37:02.120 Obviously true.

00:37:02.720 Ultimately, what we want is for the Department of Education to be abolished.

00:37:07.000 Linda McMahon has said, this is our department's last mission and it's the most important one.

00:37:10.520 Yeah, we've got to shut it down.

00:37:12.000 It's been around since Jimmy Carter.

00:37:13.280 It's been bad for education.

00:37:14.200 We're going to get rid of it.

00:37:16.160 But all along the way, there is a lot to be done here.

00:37:21.400 And I think this has been the story of the first six months of the Trump administration.

00:37:26.320 A lot of it is just showing Americans how much bad stuff the government is doing.

00:37:32.400 And for how long?

00:37:33.520 That was the story with USAID.

00:37:36.100 The story with USAID was not some ideological fight over whether or not the United States should be involved in global affairs.

00:37:42.060 As I pointed out many times, President Trump has an imperial political vision.

00:37:46.940 He is not a yeoman farmer who wants to ignore the rest of the world.

00:37:49.480 He wants to annex Greenland.

00:37:50.940 He wants to invade Mexico.

00:37:52.500 He wants trade deals.

00:37:54.200 He wants global involvement.

00:37:55.720 He just wants it to be in America's interest.

00:37:58.580 So when Trump and Elon go to shutter something like USAID, it's not because they don't want us to be involved in the rest of the world.

00:38:05.600 It's because USAID was funding, on the farcical end of things, transgender ballet recitals in the Philippines, and on the worst end of things, campaigns to overthrow conservative governments around the world. 0.91

00:38:21.120 He's just showing people, look at what we're funding over here.

00:38:24.200 Look at what we're funding over there.

00:38:25.660 Well, same thing here with the Department of Education.

00:38:27.040 Just to show you how bad the immigration issue has gotten, did you taxpayers know that we are currently funding education for illegals?

00:38:35.080 Did you know we've been doing it for 30 years?

00:38:38.520 Oh, you didn't know that?

00:38:39.860 You were already anti-immigration?

00:38:41.240 Now you see that?

00:38:42.140 It's, I think, a way of building support.

00:38:44.440 In any case, before the Department of Ed is completely destroyed, there's a lot of subsidiary programs that need to be wrecked in the meantime.

00:38:52.240 Okay, speaking of young people, horrifying, horrifying story.

00:38:55.860 Out of France.

00:38:58.340 And I guess the theme of the past two weeks is, are you really surprised?

00:39:02.860 Are you really, did you really expect something different?

00:39:06.280 It's always the ones you most expect.

00:39:08.120 A French LGBT activist and a left-wing political party leader has been caught running a child rape ring.

00:39:19.020 I don't know how else to put it.

00:39:19.900 I'm trying, there's no way to sugarcoat that.

00:39:22.700 This guy, Pierre-Alain Cortineau, is a former candidate for the far left-wing party, La France Insoumise, France in Rebellion, during the 2021 regional elections.

00:39:36.520 Former head of an LGBT LMNOP activist group.

00:39:40.200 He is now being accused.

00:39:42.000 He has allegedly run a dark net child rape network.

00:39:46.800 This is according to the French newspaper, Le Parisien.

00:39:50.900 They describe some of the videos here.

00:39:54.920 And me, I can read a lot of horrible stuff and keep my composure. 0.96

00:39:59.500 This had me fantasizing about ripping this guy's head off and like torturing him along the way. 0.69

00:40:04.600 I mean, the stuff he is accused of doing is the worst stuff imaginable. 0.98

00:40:09.240 So, we'll just leave it at that.

00:40:10.940 Now, what does this mean for politics? 0.58

00:40:12.780 What is implied here, I think, from this local weird sex story, horrifying weird criminal sex story out of France,

00:40:21.660 has a lot of implications for the American political order.

00:40:24.200 What is implied here is, we need to be a lot less tolerant of a lot more things.

00:40:29.700 A lot less tolerant of a lot more things.

00:40:33.460 For one, pornography.

00:40:35.800 Because a lot of this story centers around pornography.

00:40:38.920 Pornography does nothing good.

00:40:40.380 It only does bad things.

00:40:41.800 And we have the political power to restrict that or ban that outright.

00:40:45.900 And we have, for most of American history, there's no First Amendment violation. 0.95

00:40:49.720 There were some stupid court cases in the 20th century that pretended that the First Amendment protects porn. 0.97

00:40:55.220 It doesn't. 0.99

00:40:55.980 We should get rid of it.

00:40:56.840 There's no benefit.

00:40:57.780 There's only negative consequences.

00:40:59.840 We should just get rid of it.

00:41:01.160 And if we were a serious country, we would.

00:41:04.040 This has implications for us being much less tolerant of license on the internet.

00:41:07.960 License.

00:41:08.520 People just doing whatever they want on the internet.

00:41:10.620 You should not be able to do whatever you want on the internet.

00:41:12.560 You're not allowed to do whatever you want in the physical public square.

00:41:15.000 You're not allowed to do whatever you want.

00:41:17.280 Even in wide open land in the middle of the country, you can't do literally whatever you want.

00:41:21.960 There's nothing good.

00:41:22.780 There's nothing particularly American.

00:41:24.220 There's certainly nothing conservative about just doing whatever you want in the physical world.

00:41:28.320 Why would we allow you to do that in the virtual, digital world either?

00:41:32.180 This is going to contradict a lot of what right-wingers have been saying about it.

00:41:35.540 It's really more libertarians.

00:41:36.880 We need a free and open internet where you can do whatever you want.

00:41:39.060 No, not really.

00:41:39.700 If that's not good for you in the physical world, why would that be good for you in the digital world?

00:41:43.540 We need to restrict behavior on the internet, just as we do in the physical world.

00:41:49.400 Homosexual adoption. 0.77

00:41:50.300 Part of what he's accused of doing pertains to homosexual adoption.

00:41:53.980 There's no good reason to have homosexual adoption. 0.97

00:41:56.000 There are 32 some odd couples for every one newborn baby who's put up for adoption.

00:42:00.580 There is no shortage of couples who want to adopt newborn babies.

00:42:03.000 Later on down the line for kids who've been taken out of homes, who've been put in foster care, who are teenagers, who have behavioral problems.

00:42:09.020 Yes, there are problems getting those people adopted.

00:42:10.880 That's a completely separate issue, and there are totally different reasons for that.

00:42:15.180 But we're talking about adoption, newborn baby adoption.

00:42:18.540 There is no shortage of couples.

00:42:20.340 There is no reason.

00:42:21.400 There is no argument, even from a consequentialist or utilitarian perspective, to allow two fellas or two chicks, even, to adopt a kid.

00:42:28.700 It's not good.

00:42:29.260 If you think that men and women each have something to contribute to raising a child, if you think that neither men nor women are totally superfluous, then there is no way that you can back homosexual adoption. 0.72

00:42:39.600 Unless you think that adoption is really just about the fun and the desires of parents rather than kids.

00:42:47.980 If parents are the people who have, or if adults rather, they're not even parents, if the adults have the rights when it comes to child rearing and not the kids.

00:42:56.720 Okay, then I guess that's your view.

00:42:58.180 That's not how I view it.

00:42:59.260 I don't think kids are a handbag to be purchased at the Fendi store, okay?

00:43:02.700 I think they're proper subjects with rights.

00:43:05.620 They are not commodities to be bought and sold based on the whims of people with disordered desires.

00:43:09.840 So, serious implications there for homosexual adoption.

00:43:12.800 And left-wing politics broadly.

00:43:14.260 Is anyone surprised that this guy was an LGBT activist?

00:43:18.480 How many LGBT LMNOP activists get caught doing this stuff?

00:43:21.980 A disproportionate number.

00:43:23.380 It's not all of them, but it's a disproportionate number.

00:43:26.000 How many of the people who get caught doing this stuff are involved in left-wing institutions?

00:43:30.040 A disproportionate number.

00:43:31.340 It's not all of them.

00:43:32.140 Everyone's going to point to some pastor, some priest, some conservative who ended up doing lots of terrible things.

00:43:37.180 Yeah, of course, it's a fallen world that happens.

00:43:38.940 But look at the numbers, guys.

00:43:40.060 It's not the churches that are primarily driving this.

00:43:43.300 It's not the religious institutions.

00:43:44.560 It's not the conservatives.

00:43:45.560 It's left-wing institutions.

00:43:47.060 It's left-wing politics.

00:43:48.300 Because left-wing politics, when a right-winger gets caught doing something evil and horrible, especially pertaining to weird sex stuff, it's an aberration.

00:43:56.940 It's contrary to the right-wing political philosophy or ideology.

00:44:00.800 When the left gets caught doing this, it is the fulfillment of their ideology.

00:44:06.560 They believe that this stuff is good in practice.

00:44:08.680 There are weird essays that U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders wrote back in the 60s about how we need to allow little children to experiment sexually.

00:44:19.840 Because they're sexual creatures. 0.95

00:44:23.360 And pornography should be mainstreamed. 0.75

00:44:25.460 Bernie Sanders wrote this stuff.

00:44:26.920 This is part of their ideology.

00:44:28.460 When they act out on that, they are fulfilling their ideology.

00:44:31.180 Nobody but should be surprised.

00:44:34.200 Politically speaking, all these things I've said, restricting porn, restricting license on the internet, homosexual adoption, left-wing politics, all these things. 0.52

00:44:43.920 You're going to say, well, that's unrealistic to try to stop all that stuff.

00:44:46.280 Hold on.

00:44:46.540 I'm not saying we can totally eradicate evil, but we can do a lot to mitigate the risk.

00:44:53.020 If we took a serious stand on pornography, on radical left-wing politics even, on marriage, on the way children are adopted, if we did that, you would drastically reduce the occurrences of this kind of thing.

00:45:05.580 This guy, Pierre-Alain Coutinou, if he did what he's accused of doing, he did it with the support of the French political order.

00:45:15.520 That's how it happened.

00:45:17.500 So we need to reduce that support.

00:45:20.360 One last point on this very issue. 0.99

00:45:22.740 Speaking of sex crimes, AOC has called President Trump a rapist. 0.92

00:45:29.640 She says, wow, who would have thought that electing a rapist would have complicated the release of the Epstein files? 0.98

00:45:34.520 AOC better watch out here. 0.97

00:45:35.640 ABC News, back in December, had to pay $15 million to Trump because one of its hosts, George Stephanopoulos, called Trump a rapist.

00:45:44.180 You can't do that. 0.68

00:45:45.580 That's defamatory because Trump is not a rapist.

00:45:48.060 Now, AOC will probably get away with it because no one thinks she's competent to stand trial. 1.00

00:45:54.540 No one really thinks, the lights might be on, but I'm not sure that anyone's really home.

00:45:59.400 However, that is seriously defamatory as determined by a judge, as determined by a legal process.

00:46:05.520 15 million reasons why you should not call Trump a rapist because he isn't one.

00:46:08.720 So that goes nowhere. 0.99

00:46:12.180 And then Gavin Newsom, his press team, has called Stephen Miller a fascist cuck. 0.81

00:46:19.080 You know Stephen Miller, one of the, he was Deputy White House Chief of Staff, one of the guys behind the immigration policy. 0.89

00:46:25.500 Really, really smart, effective leader in the MAGA movement. 0.84

00:46:29.280 Newsom says, this fascist cuck in D.C. continues to assault, his assault on democracy and the Constitution

00:46:34.620 and his attempt to replace the sovereignty of the people with autocracy. 0.96

00:46:37.060 Sorry, the Constitution hurt your feelings, Stephen.

00:46:39.520 Cry harder.

00:46:42.480 This is showing you that Gavin Newsom is going to have a tough time running for president.

00:46:46.460 This reminds me of when Marco Rubio was running for president against Trump in 2016.

00:46:53.860 And in order to beat Trump, he tried to do a Trump impression.

00:46:57.480 You remember he did this whole routine about Trump has little hands?

00:47:00.820 He's always calling me little Marco.

00:47:03.140 And I'll admit, the guy, he's taller than me, he's like 6'2",

00:47:05.500 which is why I don't understand why his hands are the size of someone who's 5'2".

00:47:09.640 Have you seen his hands?

00:47:11.220 And you know what they say about men with small hands?

00:47:17.740 You can't trust them.

00:47:19.300 You can't trust them.

00:47:20.220 Okay, you know what they say about guys with small hands?

00:47:23.220 They can't trust them.

00:47:24.460 That's right.

00:47:24.780 So Trump at the time wrote this up.

00:47:26.460 He goes, oh yeah, I saw little Marco doing his Rickles routine.

00:47:29.100 It's Don Rickles routine.

00:47:30.100 Yeah, it didn't work.

00:47:30.720 And it didn't work.

00:47:31.800 And Rubio got out of the race shortly after this.

00:47:35.040 And now Rubio's the man.

00:47:36.400 Everyone loves Marco Rubio, including Trump.

00:47:38.220 And he's doing a great job.

00:47:39.060 And he's being seriously floated as a presidential contender in 2028.

00:47:43.640 Because now Marco's just doing Marco.

00:47:46.140 Back there, he was trying to do Trump.

00:47:47.520 You're not going to out-Trump Trump.

00:47:48.980 And here, that's what Newsom's trying to do.

00:47:51.360 Newsom is trying to copy the right.

00:47:54.480 He's doing everything that the American right was doing 10 years ago.

00:47:58.380 He's starting a podcast.

00:47:59.860 He's become a debate me bro guy.

00:48:01.720 Hey, come on, debate me bro.

00:48:03.480 Why don't you debate me?

00:48:05.680 And now he's using this word cuck.

00:48:07.620 Cuckold is a very funny term.

00:48:09.160 It goes for the Italians. 1.00

00:48:10.100 It goes, it's a very old insult.

00:48:11.820 Cornuto. 0.98

00:48:12.820 Call a guy cuck, you know. 0.91

00:48:14.180 And the American right has adopted it in the last 10, 20 years.

00:48:17.260 But it doesn't work when Newsom does it.

00:48:20.260 He's trying to do an impression of MAGA.

00:48:22.300 And it is not working.

00:48:25.340 It's not working for them.

00:48:26.840 You got to do you.

00:48:27.880 You got to be you if you want people to vote for you.

00:48:30.320 The problem is, the Democrats right now don't know who they are.

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The Michael Knowles Show - July 14, 2025

Ep. 1770 - New Data Pour Gasoline on the Epstein Conspiracy Fire

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