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00:01:05.760 President Trump just invited the Muslim communist mayor-elect of New York to the Oval Office,

00:01:11.060 and he managed to do the one thing that no one expected him to do,

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00:01:20.500 We will get into that masterclass in political communication.

00:01:24.700 Then, on the flip side, former right-wing stalwart Marjorie Taylor Greene announces that she is resigning from Congress,

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00:01:50.700 I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:04:00.200 Zoron in the Oval Office, just to me, it's one of those regular reminders of what makes Trump so

00:04:08.780 special.

00:04:09.480 This, sometimes you forget and you say, oh, I didn't like that policy so much.

00:04:12.880 And I feel like he kind of whiffed it there.

00:04:14.480 And then you see Zoron in the Oval Office, and you remember, oh, this is why Trump is

00:04:20.020 the greatest politician of any of our lifetimes.

00:04:23.080 It's not even close.

00:04:25.360 I'm not even going to set it up.

00:04:27.380 I'm not even going to set up with why this was so great.

00:04:30.220 Just take a listen.

00:04:33.180 Are you affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist?

00:04:36.600 I've spoken about-

00:04:37.920 That's okay.

00:04:38.260 You can just say yes.

00:04:38.900 Okay.

00:04:40.320 It's easier.

00:04:41.860 It's easier than explaining it.

00:04:43.440 It's easier.

00:04:45.800 Hey, buddy, it's okay.

00:04:46.860 You called me a fascist, right?

00:04:48.660 Don't, but it's all right.

00:04:50.100 Don't worry about it.

00:04:51.440 Oh, yeah.

00:04:52.740 Hey, so the liberal media are there to set the stage.

00:04:57.440 Liberal media are there.

00:04:58.980 Trump sitting behind the Resolute desk, most powerful seat in the political world.

00:05:05.820 Zoron standing up next to him like a good little boy, you know, like a dutiful little

00:05:10.220 boy who was summoned to the principal's office.

00:05:11.980 And he's standing there.

00:05:13.840 And then one of his own reporters, a liberal reporter, presumably liberal.

00:05:19.860 I actually didn't see which outlet it's from.

00:05:21.620 The vast majority of reporters are liberal.

00:05:23.720 Ask Zoron.

00:05:25.060 Hey, you called Trump a fascist, right?

00:05:27.340 Do you think Trump's a fascist?

00:05:28.820 And Zoron, you see just the eyes open.

00:05:31.100 Oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I mean, I don't want it.

00:05:35.000 And what does Trump do?

00:05:37.260 What everyone would expect Trump to do in this meeting is to look eyes furrowed, look

00:05:43.240 Zoron in the eye, say, listen here, you Muslim communist.

00:05:47.900 This is what every other hack Republican politician would have done.

00:05:50.640 Listen here, you Muslim communist.

00:05:53.400 I'm not gonna let you impose your Sharia law.

00:05:57.540 I'm not gonna let you turn America into a communist hellhole.

00:06:02.980 Listen here.

00:06:04.040 And that he would have gotten in his face.

00:06:05.420 He would have had finger pointing.

00:06:07.320 And it would have played fine.

00:06:10.540 You know, that's what you expect.

00:06:11.900 And then maybe Zoron, he takes it, he stares him down, steely eyed.

00:06:17.720 And that's what you'd expect.

00:06:19.040 And that would have been fine and super boring.

00:06:22.560 And that's not what Trump gives you.

00:06:25.380 Trump invites him in and he does the one thing you don't expect.

00:06:29.720 He's chummy with him.

00:06:31.120 Hey, hey, buddy.

00:06:32.600 Hey, what's up?

00:06:33.580 And then he get the tough question.

00:06:35.480 Hey, hey, Zoron, you've called Trump a fascist, an authoritarian, a dictator.

00:06:40.760 I'm gonna, hey, buddy, don't worry about it.

00:06:42.980 I know.

00:06:43.380 I said, just tell him you called me that.

00:06:45.140 It's no, don't worry about it.

00:06:46.240 Water under the bridge.

00:06:47.540 Hey, come on, buddy.

00:06:48.160 Don't worry.

00:06:48.540 It's gonna be easier.

00:06:49.420 Yeah, yeah, don't worry.

00:06:50.240 I'm on your side.

00:06:51.740 It's me and you against them, right?

00:06:54.100 Right, brother?

00:06:55.160 Inshallah.

00:06:56.680 Salaam alaikum.

00:06:57.800 It's you and me, bro.

00:07:00.080 Oh, man.

00:07:01.500 It's so good.

00:07:02.520 And the agreement, the chummy chumminess didn't stop there.

00:07:07.700 Trump and Zoron Mamdani found lots of areas, apparently, of agreement.

00:07:15.920 I think both President Trump and I, we are very clear about our positions and our views.

00:07:21.460 And what I really appreciate about the president is that the meeting that we had focused not

00:07:25.360 on places of disagreement, which there are.

00:07:27.480 And I've been called much worse than a despot.

00:07:29.880 So it's not that insulting.

00:07:32.300 I think he'll change his mind after we get to working together.

00:07:36.420 Yes, please.

00:07:37.620 Would you feel comfortable living in New York City under a Momdanian administration?

00:07:41.580 Yeah, I would.

00:07:42.400 I really would.

00:07:42.960 Especially after the meeting.

00:07:44.460 Absolutely.

00:07:45.120 What makes you comfortable?

00:07:47.260 We agree on a lot more than I would have thought.

00:07:49.440 This is a man that right now I think is focused on New York City.

00:07:53.580 I really think he has a chance to do a great job.

00:07:55.960 We're going to help him.

00:07:57.160 But I really think he has a chance to do a great job.

00:07:59.640 But I'll let you answer that.

00:08:00.920 You consider yourself the leader of the Democrats.

00:08:02.940 I think it's more appropriate for him.

00:08:04.920 I consider myself the next mayor of New York City.

00:08:07.100 And I keep my horizons firmly on New York City.

00:08:09.820 And I appreciate the meeting with the president, which focused again on the five boroughs and

00:08:14.300 whether New Yorkers could afford to live there.

00:08:16.740 Oh, just beautiful.

00:08:18.660 It's just beautiful.

00:08:19.640 And consider all the layers here.

00:08:22.660 First of all, before we get to the 4D chess, esoteric political strategy, just think of

00:08:31.540 this from common sense.

00:08:33.940 Zoran Mamdani gets elected, running effectively as a communist and a Muslim identitarian communist

00:08:39.740 at that in New York.

00:08:41.640 Trump was coming out at the end, essentially campaigning for his Democratic rival, Andrew

00:08:46.540 Cuomo.

00:08:47.420 Republicans did not want this to happen.

00:08:49.000 And this was a major blow, signaled in the minds of many, a major blow for the Republicans

00:08:54.240 in the midterms, for J.D. Vance's chance in 2028.

00:08:57.380 And what does Trump do?

00:09:00.240 Just common sense.

00:09:01.520 This guy's now the mayor of New York.

00:09:03.700 He's nice to him.

00:09:06.360 You actually don't need 5D chess to realize that that's probably a smart move.

00:09:10.000 You don't need 5D chess to realize that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.

00:09:14.080 A lot of people said in Trump 1, had Schumer and Pelosi just been nice to Trump or just

00:09:19.980 not called him Hitler immediately, he might have worked with them.

00:09:23.600 And Trump sees that.

00:09:24.700 He knows that lesson himself.

00:09:26.600 He says, hey, buddy, come on in here.

00:09:28.240 You're the mayor now.

00:09:28.900 I didn't want you to be mayor.

00:09:29.740 You're the mayor now.

00:09:31.140 Let's see.

00:09:31.780 How can we work together?

00:09:32.760 Listen, if I can help you out, I'm going to help you out.

00:09:35.980 If I can do it, I'm going to help you out.

00:09:38.160 And I expect that if you can help me out, you're going to help me out too.

00:09:41.780 That's just common sense.

00:09:43.580 And it's the kind of common sense that a guy who's ever worked in business understands,

00:09:48.340 that a person who's ever cut a deal understands, and that politicians really don't understand

00:09:52.860 because they get too far into the weeds.

00:09:54.180 Okay, that's the basic level.

00:09:56.320 The next layer of this, Trump says, yes, I would feel comfortable living in Momdani's New York.

00:10:06.040 It seems like he's conceding something there.

00:10:08.260 It seems like he's saying all that Republican fear-mongering about Momdani, it wasn't true.

00:10:14.040 It was disingenuous.

00:10:16.180 If he really were a jihadi communist, then we wouldn't feel comfortable living in Momdani's New York.

00:10:22.360 But I'm admitting to you now, we are comfortable, so we were lying, right?

00:10:26.360 That's what it seems like he's conceding.

00:10:29.440 However, don't forget, the Republicans lost.

00:10:33.340 He won.

00:10:34.300 Not only the Republicans and the moderate Democrats lost in New York.

00:10:37.100 Momdani won.

00:10:38.440 Momdani is the hottest young thing in politics.

00:10:41.540 And Trump comes out, and he says, oh yeah, no, I would feel comfortable living in Momdani's New York.

00:10:47.600 Especially after he and I chatted off camera.

00:10:50.560 Because, you know, secretly, he and I agree on a lot more than he's letting on.

00:10:56.180 You see what he's doing to him?

00:10:58.040 You see how he's just twisting that knife?

00:11:00.100 And Momdani's standing up there smiling like a doofus because he's got nothing else to do because he's in Trump's house, which happens to be the most powerful building in the world in all of politics.

00:11:12.160 He's standing there.

00:11:12.840 He's like, oh, yeah, listen, look, I'm not worried.

00:11:17.520 I was a little nervous about living in Momdani's New York before the meeting.

00:11:20.700 But after the meeting, I realized we secretly agree on a lot.

00:11:23.440 He's really on my side secretly.

00:11:25.060 And there's Momdani.

00:11:25.640 It's just masterful.

00:11:30.140 Trump's being so nice that Momdani can't fight him in the room.

00:11:34.180 But by not fighting him in the room, he has to implicitly accept that he and Trump secretly agree, which puts him in a terrible place with his voters in New York, his constituents, who are radically leftist, who are radically opposed to Donald Trump.

00:11:49.080 It made Momdani squirm.

00:11:51.840 Momdani left that meeting much weaker than he went in.

00:11:57.380 And Trump left that meeting much stronger because to the point we just mentioned that Momdani is the hottest young thing in politics.

00:12:03.880 After those elections, two, three weeks ago, whenever they were, everyone said, OK, Trump's a lame duck now.

00:12:09.180 He's a lame duck.

00:12:10.080 The Republicans lost in New York, in New Jersey, in Virginia.

00:12:15.360 We're already talking about 2028.

00:12:17.060 We're already talking about the bright young things in the party.

00:12:19.120 Zoran Momdani is the new hot young thing.

00:12:21.320 So much so that a reporter asked if he were the new leader of the Democrat Party.

00:12:24.820 It's all about everyone else but Trump.

00:12:27.360 And what happens?

00:12:28.320 Trump brings Momdani to the Oval Office.

00:12:31.860 And he makes it all about Trump again.

00:12:33.900 It's all about Trump again.

00:12:35.940 And now Momdani, he's Trump's little pizza boy.

00:12:40.120 He's trying, hey, Mr. Trump, can I get you a cup of coffee?

00:12:42.920 And yeah, can I get you a bagel, Mr. Trump?

00:12:44.660 No, I'm OK.

00:12:45.200 Thank you, Zoran.

00:12:45.840 It's all about Trump again.

00:12:49.640 He made himself the star again.

00:12:52.400 It's political science classes should study that meeting.

00:12:57.620 The absolute flip of political momentum, the absolute inversion of the political communications

00:13:04.600 that we've gotten out of the last two weeks.

00:13:08.080 Unbelievable.

00:13:08.720 He did the one thing you didn't expect him to do, which is, just as a general rule, the

00:13:16.720 thing politicians should do.

00:13:18.120 OK, speaking of Trump making it about him again, we got more evidence of this coming out of

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00:13:24.360 Marjorie Taylor Greene, one of the stalwart MAGA, most pro-Trump, belligerently pro-Trump

00:13:30.360 voices out there.

00:13:31.120 She's quitting Congress because of Trump.

00:13:33.720 We'll get to what that means.

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00:16:15.440 The once big bright star in the Republican Party in Congress,

00:16:20.680 pro-MAGA, pro-Trump,

00:16:22.760 as belligerently rock-ribbed right wing as it gets.

00:16:26.660 Last week we saw she went on CNN

00:16:29.060 and apologized for being so right wing,

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00:16:34.020 you know, be kind, I don't, I'm sorry,

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00:16:37.880 And now she announces

00:16:39.380 she's quitting Congress in the new year

00:16:41.680 because of Trump.

00:16:44.840 I have too much self-respect and dignity.

00:16:47.980 I love my family way too much,

00:16:50.300 and I do not want my sweet district

00:16:52.700 to have to endure a hurtful and hateful primary

00:16:55.860 against me by the president that we all fought for,

00:16:59.300 only to fight and win my election

00:17:01.440 while Republicans will likely lose the midterms

00:17:04.680 and in turn be expected to defend the president

00:17:07.860 against impeachment

00:17:09.100 after he hatefully dumped tens of millions of dollars

00:17:12.480 against me and tried to destroy me.

00:17:15.300 It's all so absurd and completely unserious.

00:17:19.560 I refuse to be a battered wife,

00:17:21.620 hoping it all goes away and gets better.

00:17:23.980 If I am cast aside by the president

00:17:26.280 and the MAGA political machine

00:17:28.360 and replaced by neocons,

00:17:30.480 big pharma, big tech,

00:17:32.500 military industrial war complex,

00:17:35.060 foreign leaders,

00:17:36.020 and the elite donor class

00:17:37.460 that can never, ever relate to real Americans,

00:17:41.000 then many common Americans

00:17:42.440 have been cast aside and replaced as well.

00:17:45.740 Okay.

00:17:46.880 I personally like Marjorie Green.

00:17:48.540 She's been on the show before.

00:17:49.700 I don't mean any of this personally.

00:17:51.620 Just putting on my cold political analyst glasses here.

00:17:56.920 This is an amazing turn of events for the president

00:17:59.180 because what we were talking about earlier with Momdani,

00:18:02.580 everyone's been saying,

00:18:03.480 oh, Trump, he's a lame duck.

00:18:04.740 He's lost control of the Republican Party.

00:18:06.540 He's not the star of the show anymore.

00:18:07.820 He's not calling the shots.

00:18:08.880 People are moving on to 2028, blah, blah, blah.

00:18:13.020 Trump just personally destroyed Marjorie Taylor Greene's political career.

00:18:17.960 He personally did that.

00:18:19.080 He is the sole reason that she is quitting Congress right now.

00:18:24.460 Marjorie Taylor Greene has had a number of lives in politics.

00:18:28.080 She started out,

00:18:29.660 she was that rock-ribbed, pro-MAGA, right-wing superstar.

00:18:36.300 Then, you remember during the speaker fight in Congress?

00:18:40.460 During the speaker fight,

00:18:41.840 she cozied up a little bit more to the leadership of the Congress.

00:18:46.700 And so she kind of softened the edges of that rock-ribbed, belligerent right-winger,

00:18:52.500 and she cozied up.

00:18:53.900 She voted for McCarthy to be speaker.

00:18:56.780 But she was still rock-ribbed, pro-Trump, all the rest of it.

00:19:00.220 But there was some friction with the White House.

00:19:03.360 She was needling Trump on certain things.

00:19:05.200 Trump signaled that he was not so happy with her,

00:19:09.180 that he might bring his political machine against her if she kept it up.

00:19:13.380 Then she goes on CNN,

00:19:14.920 and she tries to get a little more audience.

00:19:17.960 I'm speaking in the terms of the media,

00:19:19.580 but try to get a little more constituency,

00:19:21.120 a little bit more support, a little bit more juice there.

00:19:23.420 I'm sorry.

00:19:24.260 I shouldn't have contributed to this harshness of politics.

00:19:26.320 You see a little more of a pivot to moderate.

00:19:29.900 All to keep that political career going.

00:19:34.760 And now she's saying,

00:19:35.780 all right, I'm quitting Congress.

00:19:37.620 Trump, you win.

00:19:39.680 What did it take?

00:19:41.720 This is very, again,

00:19:42.700 put Marjorie aside for a second.

00:19:44.860 She and I have always gotten along just fine.

00:19:46.920 Plenty of people like Marjorie Greene.

00:19:49.600 Just consider this.

00:19:52.460 Everyone's saying that Trump is a lame duck,

00:19:54.500 and he doesn't have any juice anymore.

00:19:56.320 It took one truth social post from President Trump,

00:19:59.840 and this woman,

00:20:00.740 who was one of the rising stars of the Republican Party,

00:20:03.720 she's done because of one truth social post from Trump

00:20:06.880 saying that he was going to primary her in her district.

00:20:10.000 That was it.

00:20:10.340 She admits that.

00:20:11.300 She says,

00:20:11.760 I don't want to subject my district to a bruising primary.

00:20:15.200 Now she spins it,

00:20:16.020 and she says,

00:20:16.620 because I would win that primary,

00:20:18.320 but then I'd be really upset about having had to fight with Trump,

00:20:22.380 and I don't want to defend him anymore,

00:20:23.660 and so I'm out.

00:20:24.240 Now, maybe that's true.

00:20:26.840 Maybe she would have lost the primary.

00:20:29.340 I guess we'll never know,

00:20:30.780 because she's quitting because Trump threatened to primary her.

00:20:35.360 The top takeaway doesn't have to be personal about Marjorie Greene at all.

00:20:40.940 The top takeaway is that Trump is still calling the shots.

00:20:44.300 Trump is still the head of the Republican Party.

00:20:46.480 Trump is still the dynamic force in American politics,

00:20:49.320 and even I didn't know if that would be the case at this stage in the cycle

00:20:54.120 because it's his second term.

00:20:56.680 So it's a weird one because it's a non-consecutive second term,

00:20:59.660 but we're in the second term.

00:21:01.060 And so at this stage,

00:21:03.140 a reelected president,

00:21:04.880 a president in his second term,

00:21:06.260 should be losing his mojo,

00:21:07.600 should be losing his juice,

00:21:08.420 especially going into the midterms.

00:21:09.560 And that could have been the case for Trump,

00:21:11.840 and it's just not.

00:21:13.060 Not yet, anyway.

00:21:15.140 Very, very impressive.

00:21:17.400 So where does the Republican Party stand?

00:21:19.020 Where does the conservative movement stand?

00:21:20.500 Elon has just revealed to us

00:21:22.040 that a lot of the pro-America,

00:21:25.660 or at least America politics obsessed Twitter accounts

00:21:30.980 are foreigners.

00:21:32.540 They're not actually from America.

00:21:34.700 And he did this because now when you click on part of the profile,

00:21:37.940 you can see where the accounts are based

00:21:39.740 and where the accounts are connected.

00:21:43.020 And so there's one account, for instance,

00:21:45.180 the AtAmerican,

00:21:46.840 and it's a bald eagle over an American flag,

00:21:48.980 AtAmerican account,

00:21:51.360 joined Twitter in 2007.

00:21:53.400 Hold on, go back, go back.

00:21:54.900 I just started talking about this.

00:21:56.120 They changed my picture.

00:21:56.880 There we go.

00:21:57.120 The AtAmerican account

00:21:58.660 joined in March 2007,

00:22:02.540 and the account is based in South Asia.

00:22:06.580 And it had one username change in 2018.

00:22:09.020 Who knows?

00:22:09.340 It might have been a bigger account that they sold.

00:22:10.740 We don't really know the history of it.

00:22:12.280 Connected via the South Asia app store.

00:22:14.680 So it's not even as though

00:22:15.820 this is just someone who happened to go on vacation to,

00:22:18.820 I don't know, India or something.

00:22:21.520 No, no.

00:22:22.100 This account is based there

00:22:23.620 and connected via the app store there.

00:22:26.240 What's the other?

00:22:26.740 Times of Gaza.

00:22:28.100 A lot of this has had to do with the Israel-Gaza war.

00:22:30.240 So the Times of Gaza account,

00:22:33.460 just posting from on the ground,

00:22:35.640 these Palestinian journalists,

00:22:37.180 it joined in November 2018 in West Asia.

00:22:40.000 So what, Pakistan or something?

00:22:42.440 Turkey.

00:22:43.400 Account based in East Asia and the Pacific.

00:22:46.460 It's been verified since January of last year.

00:22:48.940 Three name changes,

00:22:49.780 so we don't know what it was

00:22:50.500 before it was Times of Gaza.

00:22:51.980 Connected via the North Africa app store.

00:22:54.200 So it's like everywhere other than Gaza.

00:22:58.780 Okay.

00:22:59.900 What about,

00:23:01.000 there's one tweet,

00:23:01.980 it was really funny.

00:23:03.440 It's this white family.

00:23:05.600 And they say that they've converted to Islam.

00:23:08.120 And it looks pretty AI.

00:23:09.640 But this is from Martin,

00:23:10.620 D. Martin says,

00:23:11.180 just four days ago,

00:23:11.840 I announced my conversion to Islam

00:23:13.040 with my wife,

00:23:13.600 Jessica,

00:23:13.900 here in Los Angeles,

00:23:14.760 American flag.

00:23:15.720 Since then,

00:23:16.100 I've received threats of being fired

00:23:17.160 if I don't leave my faith.

00:23:18.540 But I'll never back down.

00:23:19.720 I've submitted to Allah

00:23:20.540 and I stand firm no matter the cost.

00:23:21.980 And you look at this and you're like,

00:23:22.780 this is truly AI slop.

00:23:24.880 Like it's not even a good picture

00:23:26.360 of converting to Islam.

00:23:28.280 Then you find out

00:23:29.220 that this account,

00:23:30.520 D. Martin,

00:23:31.540 where's it based?

00:23:32.680 Give me the location.

00:23:34.160 Joined in September of this year.

00:23:36.240 So joined two months ago.

00:23:37.280 Account based in West Asia.

00:23:38.840 Not Los Angeles.

00:23:40.620 Not the US.

00:23:42.100 Verified since last month.

00:23:43.920 Two name changes

00:23:44.940 connected via West Asia.

00:23:46.240 Okay.

00:23:46.700 So,

00:23:47.740 what does this tell us?

00:23:49.520 It tells us something,

00:23:51.020 but people are reaching

00:23:53.980 for all the wrong conclusions.

00:23:56.020 It tells us that we're in the midst

00:23:57.540 of an information war,

00:23:58.640 obviously.

00:23:59.520 We're in the midst of an information war

00:24:01.040 in the United States.

00:24:01.960 And so,

00:24:02.620 foreign actors

00:24:03.700 are going to try to manipulate

00:24:05.120 that information war.

00:24:07.620 However,

00:24:08.740 there is a great deal of copium

00:24:10.880 being injected straight into the veins

00:24:13.120 by people who don't want to admit

00:24:15.880 that the political parties are shifting,

00:24:18.040 who don't want to admit

00:24:18.980 that Americans' opinions

00:24:20.580 on various issues,

00:24:22.300 including Israel

00:24:23.560 and the Middle East

00:24:24.620 and foreign policy generally,

00:24:26.260 are shifting.

00:24:27.080 They don't want to admit it.

00:24:28.140 So,

00:24:28.360 what they're going to conclude,

00:24:29.960 and it's a hodgepodge

00:24:31.020 of boomers,

00:24:33.120 Gen X,

00:24:34.460 radically pro-Israel people,

00:24:36.880 neoconservatives,

00:24:38.220 what they want to conclude is,

00:24:39.660 this is all an op.

00:24:40.980 The apparent fighting

00:24:42.240 over US foreign policy

00:24:43.500 between the interventionists

00:24:44.560 and the isolationists,

00:24:46.040 between the Zionists

00:24:47.160 and the anti-Zionists,

00:24:48.540 between the imperialists

00:24:49.720 and the nationalists,

00:24:50.480 blah, blah, blah.

00:24:51.940 That that's all an op.

00:24:53.600 And it's just because

00:24:54.760 some bad actors

00:24:55.800 from Iran

00:24:56.800 and Qatar

00:24:57.600 and Pakistan

00:24:58.660 and India,

00:24:59.760 they're just manipulating us

00:25:01.500 on Twitter

00:25:01.960 and it's all fake.

00:25:03.820 And that is not the case.

00:25:05.520 I went through,

00:25:06.200 just even in my own mentions

00:25:07.320 and in other tweets,

00:25:09.360 to see,

00:25:09.720 okay,

00:25:09.880 some of the other big accounts

00:25:11.280 that are pushing these shifts,

00:25:12.820 are they all from elsewhere?

00:25:14.320 Are they all from India?

00:25:15.020 Are they all from Turkey?

00:25:15.860 And no,

00:25:16.200 they're not.

00:25:16.640 A lot of them

00:25:17.040 are from the United States.

00:25:19.140 There's obviously

00:25:20.420 a foreign information war

00:25:22.380 going on.

00:25:22.960 That's true.

00:25:24.400 But you have to ask yourself

00:25:25.480 the next question.

00:25:27.180 Why do information wars work?

00:25:29.620 Why do people wage them

00:25:30.540 in the first place?

00:25:31.420 It's not to just

00:25:32.580 totally brainwash people.

00:25:35.040 It's not even to plant

00:25:36.960 new ideas in people's minds.

00:25:38.940 It's to exacerbate

00:25:40.460 existing tensions.

00:25:41.740 That's how information wars

00:25:42.900 really work well,

00:25:44.140 is when there are

00:25:44.920 already tensions

00:25:45.980 over foreign policy

00:25:47.520 intervention versus isolation,

00:25:49.180 over supporting Israel

00:25:50.320 versus not supporting Israel

00:25:52.120 versus outright opposing Israel.

00:25:53.700 When there are

00:25:54.540 already tensions,

00:25:56.100 when there are

00:25:56.640 classically during

00:25:57.700 the Cold War,

00:25:59.640 the Soviet Union

00:26:00.160 exploited racial tensions

00:26:01.460 in the United States

00:26:02.300 to great effect.

00:26:04.060 It's not just that

00:26:05.120 the communist agitator groups,

00:26:06.980 largely backed by the USSR,

00:26:08.700 the KGB even,

00:26:09.840 in the 60s and 70s.

00:26:11.580 It's not that they invented

00:26:13.380 the idea of racial strife

00:26:14.460 in America.

00:26:14.840 It's that they exploited it

00:26:16.000 and it worked.

00:26:16.780 There were race riots.

00:26:17.900 There were all sorts of battles

00:26:19.020 that took place.

00:26:20.080 There were radical racial groups.

00:26:21.880 That's what's happening here.

00:26:24.680 The information war has worked

00:26:26.480 because of the underlying tensions.

00:26:30.440 And a lot of that,

00:26:32.300 look, sure,

00:26:32.880 there are plenty of foreign accounts,

00:26:33.920 but a lot of the fighting

00:26:36.020 on Twitter,

00:26:36.860 especially,

00:26:37.260 is from American accounts.

00:26:40.420 And those tensions

00:26:41.180 really do exist.

00:26:42.420 And the Republican Party

00:26:43.520 and the conservative movement,

00:26:44.280 they can bury their heads

00:26:45.120 in the sand

00:26:45.500 and take the copian

00:26:46.220 and say it's all,

00:26:47.560 you know,

00:26:47.780 the Turks

00:26:48.580 and the Qataris

00:26:49.460 and the Indians.

00:26:50.700 But it's silly.

00:26:52.660 There is a real

00:26:53.900 division brewing.

00:26:57.000 We've seen it

00:26:57.820 on the internet,

00:26:58.560 especially over Israel,

00:26:59.860 but over foreign policy

00:27:01.860 generally,

00:27:02.540 over migration,

00:27:03.460 over the economy

00:27:04.080 in some cases.

00:27:05.380 And the GOP

00:27:06.300 and the conservative movement

00:27:07.020 are going to have

00:27:07.560 to deal with that.

00:27:10.020 So they can either,

00:27:11.280 they can say,

00:27:11.940 okay,

00:27:12.220 it's no,

00:27:12.480 it's not real.

00:27:13.120 La, la, la, la, la, la.

00:27:14.040 It's just the Qataris.

00:27:15.060 La, la, la.

00:27:15.700 But that will be

00:27:16.480 to their own peril

00:27:17.900 because the foreign actors

00:27:19.640 were smart.

00:27:20.280 They exploited things

00:27:21.040 that already exist.

00:27:21.960 And the GOP

00:27:23.040 needs an answer for that.

00:27:24.400 Some people

00:27:24.920 are going to look at this

00:27:25.640 and they're just going to say,

00:27:26.880 look,

00:27:27.420 that's the copium

00:27:27.940 from the boomers

00:27:29.160 and the neocons

00:27:29.920 and the very pro-israel people

00:27:31.420 and all the rest.

00:27:32.560 There's another kind of copium

00:27:33.820 though from the nationalists,

00:27:35.020 which is they say,

00:27:35.880 well, look,

00:27:36.100 these foreigners have no right

00:27:37.260 to interfere in American policy

00:27:38.980 and it's crazy

00:27:40.720 that they're doing that

00:27:41.600 and we just need to stop it.

00:27:43.760 That also is insufficient.

00:27:46.180 I'm not at all surprised

00:27:47.360 that foreigners

00:27:47.780 are trying to interfere

00:27:48.480 in American politics.

00:27:50.040 We're the global empire.

00:27:51.680 That's what happens.

00:27:52.860 You want to talk about

00:27:53.640 the problems

00:27:54.620 in the Levant specifically,

00:27:56.260 Israel, Palestine,

00:27:57.660 Gaza, all that.

00:27:58.280 Every empire

00:27:59.700 that has ever controlled

00:28:00.940 that region

00:28:01.640 has understood it

00:28:03.420 to be a very troublesome province.

00:28:05.440 Okay?

00:28:05.860 And we're now the empire

00:28:07.020 that controls the world.

00:28:08.100 And we might not be that forever

00:28:09.420 and we might not want to be that

00:28:10.760 and we might not have planned

00:28:11.560 to be that,

00:28:12.020 but we just are.

00:28:12.940 Okay?

00:28:13.080 That's a fact.

00:28:14.060 So yes,

00:28:14.660 of course,

00:28:15.140 foreigners are going to fight over it.

00:28:16.480 That's what happens

00:28:17.200 within empires.

00:28:19.260 There's no shortcut.

00:28:21.180 People are going to look

00:28:22.000 at this revelation

00:28:22.900 and they're going to say,

00:28:23.660 oh, good,

00:28:24.100 that fixes all of my problems.

00:28:26.120 Now we see it's all fake,

00:28:27.700 it's all foreign,

00:28:28.360 it's all an op,

00:28:28.980 never mind,

00:28:29.580 move on,

00:28:30.000 nothing to see here.

00:28:30.620 No, no, no,

00:28:30.840 there's a lot to see here.

00:28:32.980 The fact that foreigners

00:28:34.340 are interfering to some degree

00:28:35.700 only tells you

00:28:37.180 that the problems

00:28:37.780 are that manifest.

00:28:38.780 Okay.

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00:32:03.920 I made a claim.

00:32:05.300 This was a week ago on Bar Fight.

00:32:07.920 We were debating illegal immigration

00:32:09.820 and entitlements and social security.

00:32:11.440 And I said that illegal aliens

00:32:14.740 steal social security numbers

00:32:17.100 and they do that

00:32:19.400 in order to get employment.

00:32:20.480 So even when the left says,

00:32:23.160 look, I don't want to count

00:32:24.340 illegal immigration as a crime.

00:32:26.020 If you take out the actual act

00:32:27.640 of crossing the border,

00:32:28.980 illegal aliens don't commit crimes.

00:32:30.880 You say, well, hold on.

00:32:32.160 They steal social security numbers, right?

00:32:33.720 That's a crime.

00:32:36.760 Do illegal aliens pay federal taxes?

00:32:40.540 Yeah, actually, they do.

00:32:41.540 They do.

00:32:42.160 Sales tax and income tax often.

00:32:44.180 90 billion, I believe.

00:32:44.880 Actually, the IRS has a whole system

00:32:46.200 for people who are undocumented

00:32:47.220 to file taxes.

00:32:48.300 Okay, so I'm glad.

00:32:49.420 And by the way,

00:32:50.000 economists overwhelmingly believe

00:32:51.620 that immigration,

00:32:52.460 including illegal immigration,

00:32:53.780 is a net positive.

00:32:54.520 Forget about that.

00:32:55.560 I just have one.

00:32:56.560 Overwhelmingly.

00:32:56.960 I have one question for you.

00:32:58.400 Because if you make the point,

00:33:00.080 as you have,

00:33:01.000 that actually, you know,

00:33:02.060 illegal aliens,

00:33:02.700 even though they don't have

00:33:03.200 social security numbers,

00:33:04.060 they do pay federal taxes

00:33:05.380 because, you know,

00:33:06.740 to get employment,

00:33:07.740 sometimes they'll use

00:33:08.380 other social security numbers.

00:33:10.160 So they don't get the benefits,

00:33:11.680 but they do pay into the system.

00:33:13.500 That's a fact.

00:33:14.140 Yeah, okay.

00:33:14.840 That's a federal crime.

00:33:16.080 42 U.S. Code, Section 408.

00:33:18.040 Sure, sure, sure.

00:33:18.280 It's a federal crime

00:33:18.940 to steal the social security number.

00:33:20.480 So there you go.

00:33:21.140 You got it.

00:33:21.560 No, no, no.

00:33:22.060 I just want to be clear.

00:33:22.620 I just want to be clear.

00:33:23.240 The IRS has a process

00:33:23.780 for people to pay taxes without it.

00:33:25.200 It's stealing the social security number,

00:33:26.900 which he just admitted is a crime.

00:33:29.760 Okay, so the rejoinder to that,

00:33:32.580 after I caught the libs

00:33:34.180 in that unfortunate problem for them,

00:33:36.700 they said,

00:33:36.980 well, no, no, no.

00:33:37.480 Hold on.

00:33:38.020 Hold on.

00:33:38.380 The illegal aliens,

00:33:41.260 yeah, sure,

00:33:41.660 some of them steal

00:33:42.180 social security numbers,

00:33:43.180 but mostly what they do

00:33:44.620 is there's a separate system

00:33:45.680 for them to pay into their taxes

00:33:48.940 so they try not to get deported.

00:33:50.620 And it's really,

00:33:51.240 it's not generally

00:33:52.200 that they steal

00:33:52.740 the social security numbers.

00:33:54.140 So, unfortunately,

00:33:56.080 here in my New York Times article,

00:33:57.440 the whole headline is cut off.

00:33:58.600 But the headline was something

00:33:59.600 to the effect of,

00:34:01.040 two men,

00:34:02.200 one identity,

00:34:03.780 they both paid the price.

00:34:06.480 Two men,

00:34:07.140 one identity,

00:34:07.700 they both paid the price.

00:34:09.780 And it's this white guy,

00:34:11.580 this, like,

00:34:12.320 just American,

00:34:13.620 and some illegal alien Hispanic.

00:34:16.560 And the name

00:34:17.540 is a white guy name

00:34:19.360 because it's two men,

00:34:20.900 one identity,

00:34:21.520 it's the white guy's identity.

00:34:22.980 And the illegal alien

00:34:24.380 stole that identity,

00:34:25.620 and now they're both

00:34:26.920 paying the price.

00:34:29.100 Thousands of undocumented workers

00:34:30.560 rely on fraudulent

00:34:31.460 social security numbers.

00:34:32.740 One of them belonged

00:34:33.980 to Dan Kluver.

00:34:38.320 Okay,

00:34:38.860 what's the story here?

00:34:40.820 This illegal alien

00:34:41.800 had multiple arrests,

00:34:43.940 several DUIs,

00:34:45.240 as a lot of illegal aliens do,

00:34:46.900 which is one reason

00:34:48.080 that illegal aliens

00:34:48.900 kill a lot of Americans.

00:34:50.760 Three deportations,

00:34:51.940 but he sneaks back

00:34:52.700 into the country

00:34:53.240 again and again and again,

00:34:54.200 and he stands,

00:34:57.380 he steals

00:34:58.000 Dan Kluver's identity.

00:35:00.740 And now they both

00:35:01.840 pay the price.

00:35:04.960 This guy,

00:35:05.360 Dan Kluver,

00:35:05.860 he's got all the,

00:35:06.480 he gets pulled over,

00:35:07.200 he's got all these problems,

00:35:08.160 all these crimes

00:35:08.720 attributed to him.

00:35:09.960 And Dan Kluver says,

00:35:11.080 I didn't do any of that,

00:35:12.040 what are you talking about?

00:35:12.780 And it's because

00:35:13.180 an illegal alien

00:35:13.880 steals his identity.

00:35:15.560 And then the New York Times

00:35:16.480 comes out

00:35:16.960 and places both men together,

00:35:20.040 side by side,

00:35:20.780 and pretends

00:35:22.360 that they are equivalent.

00:35:24.280 Pretends that the identity

00:35:25.340 doesn't even belong

00:35:26.340 to one of the men.

00:35:27.280 So, oh, it's just,

00:35:28.000 isn't this,

00:35:28.960 ah, immigration,

00:35:30.760 isn't it so tough?

00:35:32.120 Oh, you know,

00:35:33.080 it's like in immigration,

00:35:35.360 you got like

00:35:35.960 the Native Americans

00:35:37.360 who want to keep

00:35:38.240 their identity,

00:35:39.080 but you got the illegal aliens

00:35:40.900 who break our most

00:35:41.920 basic laws immediately.

00:35:43.500 And, you know,

00:35:44.180 they got to steal the identity.

00:35:45.800 They got to, right?

00:35:46.640 Because they want to

00:35:47.860 commit more crimes.

00:35:49.060 So it's like

00:35:50.220 immigration,

00:35:51.280 politics,

00:35:51.940 am I right?

00:35:52.520 It's like,

00:35:52.820 what are you going to do?

00:35:54.720 Sometimes you want

00:35:55.720 to keep your identity.

00:35:56.740 Sometimes you want

00:35:57.360 to steal some guy's identity.

00:35:58.580 It's like,

00:35:58.800 what are we going to do?

00:35:59.380 We're all just people, man,

00:36:00.420 you know?

00:36:01.860 Now they're both

00:36:02.640 paying the price

00:36:03.480 because the one guy,

00:36:05.240 the American guy,

00:36:06.060 had his life ruined

00:36:06.980 and the illegal alien

00:36:08.820 now might have to

00:36:10.560 pay for some of his crimes.

00:36:12.440 It's like consequences,

00:36:13.900 you know?

00:36:14.160 It's just like awful.

00:36:15.400 It's just like awful, man.

00:36:17.400 This is,

00:36:17.840 this is as perfectly

00:36:19.940 New York Times as it gets.

00:36:21.560 Just perfect.

00:36:23.820 And it shows you exactly

00:36:25.420 what the elite media

00:36:28.500 and the elite political class

00:36:31.240 think of Americans.

00:36:32.760 You can have a case

00:36:33.740 that is as open,

00:36:34.800 as shut,

00:36:35.520 as it gets.

00:36:37.580 American,

00:36:38.580 total victim

00:36:39.660 in every way.

00:36:41.240 Illegal alien,

00:36:42.620 cartoonishly villainous,

00:36:44.340 criminal,

00:36:46.000 just does every wrong thing.

00:36:49.880 And the,

00:36:51.080 the,

00:36:51.460 the most fair

00:36:53.600 that the New York Times

00:36:54.700 will be

00:36:55.080 is to say

00:36:56.820 that they're basically equal.

00:36:58.540 I'm sure what they want to say

00:36:59.620 is that the white guy's evil

00:37:00.660 and the illegal alien

00:37:01.960 is the hero.

00:37:02.760 They can't quite do that here.

00:37:04.420 The,

00:37:04.600 the most fair coverage

00:37:05.820 you're going to see

00:37:06.300 is,

00:37:06.640 well,

00:37:06.720 they're basically equal.

00:37:09.760 Which brings us to

00:37:10.860 the State Department's

00:37:11.720 very,

00:37:12.240 very important point.

00:37:13.880 This issue

00:37:14.960 of mass migration

00:37:16.840 is arguably

00:37:18.820 the most important issue

00:37:21.040 not just in the United States

00:37:23.060 but throughout the West.

00:37:24.700 We'll get to that

00:37:25.080 momentarily first.

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00:39:17.280 My favorite comment yesterday

00:39:18.660 is from Jim Bob,

00:39:19.540 the builder 757.

00:39:21.440 It says,

00:39:21.760 Michael,

00:39:22.100 you got to hand it

00:39:22.740 to these Somalis,

00:39:23.800 Minnesota taxpayers

00:39:24.680 way ahead of you, Mike.

00:39:26.460 You got to,

00:39:27.220 oh, we've been handing it

00:39:27.940 to them for a long time

00:39:28.620 and they've been handing

00:39:29.660 our money to Al Shabab,

00:39:31.320 which makes

00:39:31.860 the Minnesota taxpayer

00:39:32.980 the single largest donor

00:39:35.360 to a Muslim terror group

00:39:37.400 in the Middle East.

00:39:38.140 Okay.

00:39:38.600 Or in Somalia, I suppose.

00:39:40.440 State Department

00:39:40.920 comes out on this point.

00:39:42.320 So this has the imprimatur

00:39:43.440 of the federal government.

00:39:45.520 Mass migration poses

00:39:46.600 an existential threat

00:39:47.920 to Western civilization

00:39:48.900 and undermines the stability

00:39:50.480 of key American allies.

00:39:52.040 Today,

00:39:52.340 the State Department

00:39:52.920 instructed U.S. embassies

00:39:54.620 to report on the human rights

00:39:55.740 implications

00:39:56.260 and public safety impacts

00:39:57.460 of mass migration.

00:39:59.700 Mass migration

00:40:00.500 is a human rights concern.

00:40:01.620 Western nations

00:40:02.480 have endured crime waves,

00:40:03.580 terror attacks,

00:40:04.160 sexual assaults,

00:40:04.800 and displacement

00:40:05.260 of communities.

00:40:06.220 U.S. officials

00:40:06.720 will urge governments

00:40:07.600 to take bold action

00:40:08.480 and defend citizens

00:40:09.300 against the threats

00:40:10.000 posed by mass migration.

00:40:11.760 Officials will also

00:40:12.480 report policies

00:40:13.260 that punish citizens

00:40:14.200 who object

00:40:15.080 to continuous mass migration

00:40:16.460 and document crimes

00:40:17.740 and human rights abuses

00:40:18.640 committed by people

00:40:19.760 of a migration background.

00:40:20.800 Because one of the issues

00:40:22.020 is you have

00:40:23.580 this mass migration

00:40:24.680 being brought into the West

00:40:26.240 for reasons

00:40:26.740 that we'll get to in a second.

00:40:28.040 And then the moment

00:40:29.000 that the chuds,

00:40:30.320 the moment

00:40:31.560 that the regular dudes

00:40:34.180 in all these countries

00:40:35.740 oppose mass migration

00:40:37.820 and they object in any way,

00:40:40.640 they are punished.

00:40:41.640 They are punished

00:40:42.120 by their culture,

00:40:43.000 they are fired from their jobs,

00:40:44.180 they're punished

00:40:44.520 at their schools,

00:40:45.100 or they're prosecuted.

00:40:47.180 In countries

00:40:47.920 that have less robust

00:40:49.020 protections for speech,

00:40:50.040 they're actually prosecuted.

00:40:52.860 You're not even allowed

00:40:53.840 to object to the policies

00:40:55.500 that the elites

00:40:57.080 are cramming down our throats.

00:40:58.700 In the United Kingdom,

00:40:59.500 thousands of girls

00:41:00.020 have been victimized

00:41:00.660 in Rotherham, Oxford,

00:41:02.040 and Newcastle

00:41:02.640 by grooming gangs

00:41:03.360 involving migrant men.

00:41:04.580 Many girls were left

00:41:05.300 to suffer unspeakable abuse

00:41:06.400 for years before

00:41:07.160 authorities stepped in.

00:41:08.160 We've covered that on the show.

00:41:09.640 In Sweden,

00:41:10.260 an Eritrean migrant

00:41:11.080 convicted of raping

00:41:11.880 a 16-year-old girl

00:41:12.780 was allowed to remain

00:41:13.720 in the country

00:41:14.240 after a judge ruled

00:41:15.260 that the incident

00:41:15.720 was not an exceptionally

00:41:16.500 serious crime

00:41:17.220 and did not warrant deportation.

00:41:18.700 That's true.

00:41:19.060 I think we covered that one too.

00:41:21.700 Eritrean migrant

00:41:22.400 rapes a teenage girl

00:41:24.080 and the judge says,

00:41:25.680 oh, it's not all that serious.

00:41:27.700 Or it's at least

00:41:28.120 not exceptional

00:41:28.700 because all these migrants

00:41:29.520 are raping little kids.

00:41:32.200 In Germany,

00:41:32.720 nine men,

00:41:33.280 several of whom

00:41:33.660 were migrants,

00:41:34.220 were convicted

00:41:34.580 for the gang rape

00:41:35.360 of a 15-year-old girl.

00:41:36.760 A German woman

00:41:37.380 who insulted

00:41:37.900 one of the rapists online

00:41:39.020 was given a harsher sentence

00:41:40.460 than the perpetrators themselves.

00:41:43.060 It's a real story.

00:41:45.980 So what's the upside?

00:41:47.100 What are we getting at

00:41:48.220 with the State Department?

00:41:48.980 The U.S. officials

00:41:49.760 will now scrutinize policies

00:41:51.200 in Western nations

00:41:53.400 that give leniency

00:41:54.060 to migrant crime

00:41:54.820 and human rights abuses

00:41:55.820 or that create two-tiered systems

00:41:57.060 that prioritize migrants

00:41:58.320 at the expense

00:41:58.720 of their own citizens.

00:41:59.900 The United States

00:42:00.440 supports the sovereignty

00:42:01.160 of our allies

00:42:01.680 and calls on governments

00:42:02.400 to constructively engage

00:42:03.540 with the growing number

00:42:04.240 of citizens concerned

00:42:05.260 about mass migration.

00:42:06.540 The U.S. stands ready

00:42:07.180 to assist

00:42:07.680 in solving the global crisis

00:42:10.700 of mass migration.

00:42:11.760 Previously,

00:42:12.920 what our elites told us

00:42:13.840 was that mass migration

00:42:14.840 was the solution

00:42:15.780 to other crises.

00:42:17.640 Crises of war

00:42:18.700 and the need for refuge

00:42:20.360 and whatever.

00:42:21.720 Climate change,

00:42:22.840 the climate refugees.

00:42:23.600 And now,

00:42:24.920 our State Department

00:42:25.520 is accurately saying

00:42:26.280 mass migration

00:42:26.940 is the crisis.

00:42:28.100 This is a big crisis.

00:42:28.840 We talked about

00:42:29.300 shifting Republican

00:42:30.960 and conservative thoughts

00:42:32.040 on all sorts of issues.

00:42:34.260 A big one is on migration.

00:42:35.700 Used to be that

00:42:36.340 the debate was between

00:42:37.280 whether on the left

00:42:39.140 we wanted more legal immigration

00:42:40.820 and more illegal immigration.

00:42:43.320 No human is illegal.

00:42:44.540 Borders are evil.

00:42:45.620 Whatever.

00:42:46.100 That view.

00:42:46.820 And then on the right,

00:42:48.380 the view that we wanted

00:42:49.640 less illegal immigration

00:42:50.840 but still more legal immigration.

00:42:52.780 Those were the two views

00:42:53.600 you were allowed to have.

00:42:54.640 There was the left wing view,

00:42:55.680 there was the right wing view.

00:42:56.500 There's a third view

00:42:57.180 that is certainly my opinion,

00:43:00.220 has been my stated opinion

00:43:01.140 for many, many years now

00:43:02.220 and I think it's

00:43:03.140 the majority opinion

00:43:04.020 in the country

00:43:04.480 which is we need

00:43:05.480 drastically less migration overall.

00:43:08.120 And for the people

00:43:09.060 who are beating up on Trump

00:43:09.920 because they're saying

00:43:10.340 his deportations aren't enough,

00:43:11.620 this is the first year

00:43:12.680 that we are on track

00:43:14.180 to have net negative migration

00:43:16.720 in like 50 years.

00:43:18.420 Okay?

00:43:19.220 So the people

00:43:19.960 who are just casting stones

00:43:21.060 from the sidelines

00:43:21.840 are jokes

00:43:22.980 as far as I'm concerned

00:43:23.880 because Trump

00:43:24.260 is the first guy

00:43:24.980 to actually get this done

00:43:25.940 in half a century.

00:43:28.180 And we need it to increase

00:43:29.540 and we need it around the world

00:43:30.840 and because we're

00:43:31.500 the global empire

00:43:32.200 and because the people

00:43:34.620 running our country

00:43:35.340 recognize that

00:43:36.360 as Trump

00:43:37.540 with his proper

00:43:38.400 American first vision

00:43:39.740 understands that.

00:43:41.180 They're saying,

00:43:41.820 well hold on,

00:43:42.280 we are a global empire,

00:43:43.840 we provide the military

00:43:45.200 coverage for

00:43:47.220 the entire West

00:43:48.260 and we are the world police

00:43:50.220 and we have military centers

00:43:51.500 all over the world.

00:43:52.140 Because of that,

00:43:53.300 let's use our power for good

00:43:54.440 and not just stupid stuff

00:43:55.600 like regime change wars

00:43:56.940 to plant Madisonian democracy

00:43:58.680 in Iraq

00:43:59.140 or not just to,

00:44:00.720 I don't know,

00:44:01.040 overthrow governments

00:44:02.240 that aren't sufficiently

00:44:03.320 protecting LGBTism

00:44:04.860 or what.

00:44:05.280 Let's do it for some good here.

00:44:06.720 Let's maybe protect,

00:44:08.020 let's protect Christians.

00:44:09.400 We can get to that story

00:44:10.040 in a second in Nigeria

00:44:10.800 or let's,

00:44:12.120 I don't know,

00:44:12.620 at the very least,

00:44:13.260 stop the invasion

00:44:13.960 of our countries

00:44:15.280 by political Islam

00:44:17.440 which has been trying

00:44:18.300 to invade the West

00:44:19.120 for 1,400 years.

00:44:20.420 And we've mostly managed

00:44:21.780 to push them back

00:44:22.660 and now we're just

00:44:23.400 inviting them in

00:44:23.920 and it's totally crazy.

00:44:25.160 Someone needs to stop it

00:44:26.160 and we need the political vision

00:44:28.900 to stop it.

00:44:29.720 Few people have that these days

00:44:30.720 and the political courage.

00:44:32.680 But it's it.

00:44:33.680 And I think any conservative politician,

00:44:37.060 any politician period

00:44:38.060 who doesn't take seriously

00:44:39.180 the problems of migration

00:44:40.280 as such,

00:44:41.300 not just illegal immigration,

00:44:42.640 not just people

00:44:43.600 who violate certain procedures,

00:44:45.140 but migration as such

00:44:46.760 is going to flop

00:44:47.860 in the coming years.

00:44:49.740 Now, speaking of threats

00:44:50.440 to Western civilization,

00:44:52.540 Woke Preacher Clips,

00:44:53.580 a very funny account,

00:44:54.640 has just posted

00:44:55.380 a very frustrating

00:44:56.580 and ridiculous video.

00:44:59.020 A little error though

00:45:00.120 because it was reported

00:45:01.600 that,

00:45:03.020 well, you'll see why

00:45:03.840 momentarily,

00:45:05.240 that this woman,

00:45:07.200 preacher,

00:45:07.860 preacherette,

00:45:09.100 priestess,

00:45:10.040 is a Catholic priest

00:45:12.100 here's what,

00:45:14.080 here's what she has to say.

00:45:17.260 Here's some things

00:45:18.100 this clerical caller

00:45:19.020 does not allow me to do.

00:45:21.140 One,

00:45:21.940 ignore systemic injustice.

00:45:24.680 My faith demands

00:45:26.000 that I advocate

00:45:26.900 for the marginalized.

00:45:29.100 And that means speaking out

00:45:30.320 whenever I see injustice

00:45:31.460 or harm taking place

00:45:33.100 within our communities.

00:45:34.940 The second thing

00:45:35.760 this clerical caller

00:45:36.460 does not allow me to do

00:45:37.440 is worry about rules

00:45:38.780 more than people.

00:45:40.220 Now, I love Catholicism

00:45:42.480 in my apostolic Catholic faith,

00:45:44.640 but that doesn't mean

00:45:46.440 that rules and liturgy

00:45:47.760 should come before people.

00:45:49.700 This caller also

00:45:50.980 won't let me see

00:45:51.720 a border

00:45:52.400 as something to separate me

00:45:54.080 from other people.

00:45:55.540 This means speaking up

00:45:57.140 for immigrants,

00:45:58.440 for the stranger,

00:45:59.540 for the foreigner,

00:46:00.580 welcoming those,

00:46:01.880 and speaking out

00:46:02.580 when harms

00:46:03.140 are being perpetuated

00:46:04.040 against those communities,

00:46:05.060 which is happening right now.

00:46:06.500 Okay, so this is a Catholic priest.

00:46:09.800 Forget, I mean, whatever.

00:46:10.540 It's just some

00:46:11.020 ridiculous liberal diatribe.

00:46:12.940 She's wearing some rainbow thing.

00:46:14.320 Not in the biblical sense

00:46:15.660 of rainbow, I think.

00:46:17.020 But what I want to talk about

00:46:18.320 is more of the caption.

00:46:20.340 This is a Catholic priest

00:46:21.440 because for those of you

00:46:22.840 who don't follow

00:46:24.340 ecclesiology

00:46:26.920 or church history

00:46:28.320 very closely,

00:46:29.400 that woman is not

00:46:30.500 a Catholic priest.

00:46:31.340 I'm quite confident

00:46:32.000 she's not a Catholic priest.

00:46:33.000 That's because

00:46:33.440 the Catholic Church

00:46:34.320 does not ordain women

00:46:36.160 and cannot ordain women.

00:46:39.320 Many other

00:46:40.220 Protestant denominations,

00:46:42.720 et cetera,

00:46:43.380 have ordained women.

00:46:45.080 The Catholic Church

00:46:45.880 does not do that

00:46:46.760 and cannot do that.

00:46:47.700 The priesthood is male.

00:46:48.960 Period.

00:46:49.440 Full stop.

00:46:50.100 End of story.

00:46:52.720 Some people in modernity,

00:46:54.540 on the left and the right,

00:46:56.000 have trouble understanding this.

00:46:58.560 And for two reasons.

00:46:59.220 Well, on the left,

00:47:00.060 the reason they have

00:47:00.640 trouble understanding this

00:47:01.460 is because they believe

00:47:02.980 that our identity

00:47:03.860 comes from our self-definition.

00:47:05.660 So they'll say,

00:47:06.220 well, this woman identifies

00:47:07.460 as a Catholic priest,

00:47:08.380 so she is.

00:47:09.460 Who are you to say

00:47:10.120 she's not a Catholic priest?

00:47:11.060 She identifies that way,

00:47:11.960 so she is.

00:47:12.420 That's the left-wing objection.

00:47:13.680 Kind of silly

00:47:14.680 because the Catholic Church

00:47:17.100 doesn't really care

00:47:17.800 about your self-identity

00:47:18.920 all that much.

00:47:20.200 Certainly if you don't have

00:47:21.260 a correct self-identity.

00:47:22.660 But even some people

00:47:24.200 on the right,

00:47:24.900 especially non-Catholics,

00:47:26.660 will object

00:47:27.240 and they'll say,

00:47:27.900 well, you know,

00:47:28.480 listen,

00:47:29.240 she,

00:47:30.500 there are plenty of Catholics

00:47:31.720 who would like women priests.

00:47:33.860 And she's got

00:47:34.800 some kind of congregation,

00:47:35.780 I guess.

00:47:36.500 And so, you know,

00:47:37.220 really?

00:47:38.320 Maybe she,

00:47:38.960 in a way,

00:47:39.340 she kind of is Catholic,

00:47:40.300 you know?

00:47:41.840 Listen,

00:47:42.260 or it's only a matter of time

00:47:43.400 before it's,

00:47:44.060 before Catholics

00:47:45.120 have women priests.

00:47:46.000 Or look,

00:47:46.340 people want it.

00:47:46.960 You can see public opinion.

00:47:48.420 Actually,

00:47:49.440 public opinion is not moving

00:47:50.440 in the direction

00:47:50.820 of women priests,

00:47:51.500 but let's say it were.

00:47:52.600 Let's say it were.

00:47:53.500 This also fundamentally

00:47:55.460 misunderstands

00:47:56.640 authority

00:47:57.940 because we live

00:47:59.620 in a modern,

00:48:00.660 liberal,

00:48:01.760 democratic age.

00:48:03.040 And even people

00:48:04.140 who are on the right

00:48:04.940 have trouble understanding

00:48:06.540 pre-modern,

00:48:08.900 non-democratic

00:48:09.840 forms of authority.

00:48:11.440 Authority,

00:48:11.940 period,

00:48:12.340 as far as I'm concerned.

00:48:15.400 Not to put too fine

00:48:16.340 a point on it.

00:48:17.340 Every single

00:48:18.320 lay Catholic

00:48:19.460 in the world

00:48:20.720 could desire

00:48:22.220 and choose

00:48:23.600 to recognize

00:48:24.480 so-called

00:48:25.160 women priests.

00:48:27.540 That woman

00:48:28.300 still would not

00:48:29.180 be a priest

00:48:29.800 because it's not

00:48:31.480 up to them.

00:48:32.360 Because the Catholic

00:48:33.240 Church is not

00:48:33.880 a democracy.

00:48:35.100 Because of the voice

00:48:36.020 of the people

00:48:36.500 is not actually

00:48:37.380 the voice of God.

00:48:39.460 Now,

00:48:39.680 a better objection

00:48:40.620 would be,

00:48:41.240 well,

00:48:41.560 you know,

00:48:41.780 listen,

00:48:42.500 there are some

00:48:42.900 crazy bishops

00:48:43.480 out there

00:48:43.920 and we've had

00:48:44.300 some bad popes too.

00:48:45.640 And what would happen?

00:48:47.800 Just you wait

00:48:48.540 until enough

00:48:49.300 liberal bishops

00:48:50.040 get in there

00:48:50.520 and maybe a liberal pope

00:48:51.480 and the pope

00:48:52.320 decides

00:48:52.840 there are going

00:48:53.240 to be women priests.

00:48:55.080 This too

00:48:56.020 misunderstands

00:48:57.220 authority in the church

00:48:58.140 and misunderstands

00:48:59.980 papal infallibility

00:49:00.740 because the pope,

00:49:01.940 we Catholics believe,

00:49:02.780 the pope

00:49:03.200 is infallible

00:49:04.800 when he teaches

00:49:07.000 on certain things

00:49:09.040 in certain circumstances.

00:49:11.460 He's not infallible

00:49:12.780 on all things,

00:49:14.200 in all cases,

00:49:15.140 in all circumstances.

00:49:16.360 He has the ability

00:49:18.060 to teach infallibly

00:49:19.540 on certain matters

00:49:21.340 in certain circumstances.

00:49:23.920 And we have come

00:49:24.840 to this conclusion

00:49:25.620 throughout the history

00:49:27.420 of the church

00:49:27.900 because of the very

00:49:29.260 principle of Catholicity,

00:49:30.760 the universality

00:49:31.420 of the church,

00:49:32.300 because of the

00:49:33.440 historical deference

00:49:34.380 to Rome

00:49:35.160 as the place

00:49:36.920 where Peter and Paul

00:49:37.700 went,

00:49:39.200 as they were sent

00:49:39.960 there

00:49:40.280 and where

00:49:41.140 the seat of Peter

00:49:43.820 remains today.

00:49:46.460 Papal infallibility

00:49:47.460 does not mean

00:49:48.200 that the pope

00:49:48.660 could come out

00:49:49.240 and say,

00:49:49.800 I don't know,

00:49:50.120 declare a fourth

00:49:50.780 person of the Trinity.

00:49:51.960 Okay?

00:49:52.240 The pope could come out

00:49:53.020 and say,

00:49:53.420 I believe there's

00:49:54.660 a fourth person.

00:49:55.400 Probably wouldn't happen,

00:49:56.520 but he couldn't do that.

00:49:58.700 The pope has the ability

00:49:59.960 to teach,

00:50:01.580 to clarify things

00:50:02.640 that are true

00:50:03.380 and that are manifest

00:50:06.900 within the church's

00:50:08.360 2,000-year history

00:50:09.440 and tradition.

00:50:10.020 The pope can't just

00:50:11.560 make stuff up.

00:50:13.000 Okay?

00:50:13.980 And we have so much

00:50:15.660 trouble

00:50:16.080 in our modern age

00:50:18.480 understanding authority

00:50:19.500 even on the right

00:50:20.540 that we fall for this stuff.

00:50:22.500 But there are no priestesses.

00:50:23.620 I know it is the case

00:50:24.900 that many denominations

00:50:26.360 work that way

00:50:27.580 where if enough people

00:50:28.600 want something,

00:50:29.360 then they get it

00:50:30.060 or the church splits

00:50:30.900 and they get two new churches

00:50:32.560 or whatever.

00:50:33.220 But that's not how

00:50:35.520 this institution works,

00:50:36.480 which is why,

00:50:37.440 despite all of the

00:50:38.540 knavish imbecility

00:50:39.700 that has characterized

00:50:41.740 some of its governance

00:50:42.680 for 2,000 years,

00:50:44.600 that is why,

00:50:45.140 in my opinion,

00:50:45.600 that's one of the reasons

00:50:46.260 why, in my opinion,

00:50:47.180 it remains.

00:50:47.960 It's the only institution

00:50:49.320 from antiquity

00:50:50.100 that remains in the West.

00:50:52.240 Maybe there's a reason for that.

00:50:53.240 Okay.

00:50:53.820 Really important

00:50:54.460 Catholic story, actually.

00:50:55.620 Nigerian Catholic kids

00:50:56.480 were just kidnapped.

00:50:57.260 A ton of them were kidnapped.

00:50:59.220 Please pray for them.

00:51:00.280 We don't have time to get in.

00:51:01.140 I'm way late today,

00:51:02.000 but we don't have time

00:51:02.460 to get into the whole story today.

00:51:03.360 We'll get to it tomorrow.

00:51:05.360 Pray for them in the meantime.

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The Michael Knowles Show - November 24, 2025

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