The Michael Knowles Show - November 24, 2025


Ep. 1863 - President Trump Makes Mamdani SQUIRM During Whitehouse Faceoff


Episode Stats

Length

51 minutes

Words per Minute

174.11168

Word Count

8,918

Sentence Count

800

Misogynist Sentences

22

Hate Speech Sentences

50


Summary

A supposedly Catholic priestess has gone viral for some woke sermon. Elon Musk reveals that a bunch of pro-America ex-accounts are actually foreign agitators. And a woman named Marjorie Taylor Greene announces that she is resigning from Congress.


Transcript

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00:01:05.760 President Trump just invited the Muslim communist mayor-elect of New York to the Oval Office,
00:01:11.060 and he managed to do the one thing that no one expected him to do,
00:01:15.400 which coincidentally in politics is precisely the thing that politicians are supposed to do.
00:01:20.500 We will get into that masterclass in political communication.
00:01:24.700 Then, on the flip side, former right-wing stalwart Marjorie Taylor Greene announces that she is resigning from Congress,
00:01:32.680 also because of Trump, and most important for the future of the Republican Party and the conservative movement,
00:01:39.820 Elon Musk reveals that a bunch of pro-America ex-accounts are actually foreign agitators,
00:01:47.100 a fact which has everyone drawing the wrong conclusions.
00:01:50.700 I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:52.740 Welcome back to the show.
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00:04:00.200 Zoron in the Oval Office, just to me, it's one of those regular reminders of what makes Trump so
00:04:08.780 special.
00:04:09.480 This, sometimes you forget and you say, oh, I didn't like that policy so much.
00:04:12.880 And I feel like he kind of whiffed it there.
00:04:14.480 And then you see Zoron in the Oval Office, and you remember, oh, this is why Trump is
00:04:20.020 the greatest politician of any of our lifetimes.
00:04:23.080 It's not even close.
00:04:25.360 I'm not even going to set it up.
00:04:27.380 I'm not even going to set up with why this was so great.
00:04:30.220 Just take a listen.
00:04:33.180 Are you affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist?
00:04:36.600 I've spoken about-
00:04:37.920 That's okay.
00:04:38.260 You can just say yes.
00:04:38.900 Okay.
00:04:40.320 It's easier.
00:04:41.860 It's easier than explaining it.
00:04:43.440 It's easier.
00:04:45.800 Hey, buddy, it's okay.
00:04:46.860 You called me a fascist, right?
00:04:48.660 Don't, but it's all right.
00:04:50.100 Don't worry about it.
00:04:51.440 Oh, yeah.
00:04:52.740 Hey, so the liberal media are there to set the stage.
00:04:57.440 Liberal media are there.
00:04:58.980 Trump sitting behind the Resolute desk, most powerful seat in the political world.
00:05:05.820 Zoron standing up next to him like a good little boy, you know, like a dutiful little
00:05:10.220 boy who was summoned to the principal's office.
00:05:11.980 And he's standing there.
00:05:13.840 And then one of his own reporters, a liberal reporter, presumably liberal.
00:05:19.860 I actually didn't see which outlet it's from.
00:05:21.620 The vast majority of reporters are liberal.
00:05:23.720 Ask Zoron.
00:05:25.060 Hey, you called Trump a fascist, right?
00:05:27.340 Do you think Trump's a fascist?
00:05:28.820 And Zoron, you see just the eyes open.
00:05:31.100 Oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I mean, I don't want it.
00:05:35.000 And what does Trump do?
00:05:37.260 What everyone would expect Trump to do in this meeting is to look eyes furrowed, look
00:05:43.240 Zoron in the eye, say, listen here, you Muslim communist.
00:05:47.900 This is what every other hack Republican politician would have done.
00:05:50.640 Listen here, you Muslim communist.
00:05:53.400 I'm not gonna let you impose your Sharia law.
00:05:57.540 I'm not gonna let you turn America into a communist hellhole.
00:06:02.980 Listen here.
00:06:04.040 And that he would have gotten in his face.
00:06:05.420 He would have had finger pointing.
00:06:07.320 And it would have played fine.
00:06:10.540 You know, that's what you expect.
00:06:11.900 And then maybe Zoron, he takes it, he stares him down, steely eyed.
00:06:17.720 And that's what you'd expect.
00:06:19.040 And that would have been fine and super boring.
00:06:22.560 And that's not what Trump gives you.
00:06:25.380 Trump invites him in and he does the one thing you don't expect.
00:06:29.720 He's chummy with him.
00:06:31.120 Hey, hey, buddy.
00:06:32.600 Hey, what's up?
00:06:33.580 And then he get the tough question.
00:06:35.480 Hey, hey, Zoron, you've called Trump a fascist, an authoritarian, a dictator.
00:06:40.760 I'm gonna, hey, buddy, don't worry about it.
00:06:42.980 I know.
00:06:43.380 I said, just tell him you called me that.
00:06:45.140 It's no, don't worry about it.
00:06:46.240 Water under the bridge.
00:06:47.540 Hey, come on, buddy.
00:06:48.160 Don't worry.
00:06:48.540 It's gonna be easier.
00:06:49.420 Yeah, yeah, don't worry.
00:06:50.240 I'm on your side.
00:06:51.740 It's me and you against them, right?
00:06:54.100 Right, brother?
00:06:55.160 Inshallah.
00:06:56.680 Salaam alaikum.
00:06:57.800 It's you and me, bro.
00:07:00.080 Oh, man.
00:07:01.500 It's so good.
00:07:02.520 And the agreement, the chummy chumminess didn't stop there.
00:07:07.700 Trump and Zoron Mamdani found lots of areas, apparently, of agreement.
00:07:15.920 I think both President Trump and I, we are very clear about our positions and our views.
00:07:21.460 And what I really appreciate about the president is that the meeting that we had focused not
00:07:25.360 on places of disagreement, which there are.
00:07:27.480 And I've been called much worse than a despot.
00:07:29.880 So it's not that insulting.
00:07:32.300 I think he'll change his mind after we get to working together.
00:07:36.420 Yes, please.
00:07:37.620 Would you feel comfortable living in New York City under a Momdanian administration?
00:07:41.580 Yeah, I would.
00:07:42.400 I really would.
00:07:42.960 Especially after the meeting.
00:07:44.460 Absolutely.
00:07:45.120 What makes you comfortable?
00:07:47.260 We agree on a lot more than I would have thought.
00:07:49.440 This is a man that right now I think is focused on New York City.
00:07:53.580 I really think he has a chance to do a great job.
00:07:55.960 We're going to help him.
00:07:57.160 But I really think he has a chance to do a great job.
00:07:59.640 But I'll let you answer that.
00:08:00.920 You consider yourself the leader of the Democrats.
00:08:02.940 I think it's more appropriate for him.
00:08:04.920 I consider myself the next mayor of New York City.
00:08:07.100 And I keep my horizons firmly on New York City.
00:08:09.820 And I appreciate the meeting with the president, which focused again on the five boroughs and
00:08:14.300 whether New Yorkers could afford to live there.
00:08:16.740 Oh, just beautiful.
00:08:18.660 It's just beautiful.
00:08:19.640 And consider all the layers here.
00:08:22.660 First of all, before we get to the 4D chess, esoteric political strategy, just think of
00:08:31.540 this from common sense.
00:08:33.940 Zoran Mamdani gets elected, running effectively as a communist and a Muslim identitarian communist
00:08:39.740 at that in New York.
00:08:41.640 Trump was coming out at the end, essentially campaigning for his Democratic rival, Andrew
00:08:46.540 Cuomo.
00:08:47.420 Republicans did not want this to happen.
00:08:49.000 And this was a major blow, signaled in the minds of many, a major blow for the Republicans
00:08:54.240 in the midterms, for J.D. Vance's chance in 2028.
00:08:57.380 And what does Trump do?
00:09:00.240 Just common sense.
00:09:01.520 This guy's now the mayor of New York.
00:09:03.700 He's nice to him.
00:09:06.360 You actually don't need 5D chess to realize that that's probably a smart move.
00:09:10.000 You don't need 5D chess to realize that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
00:09:14.080 A lot of people said in Trump 1, had Schumer and Pelosi just been nice to Trump or just
00:09:19.980 not called him Hitler immediately, he might have worked with them.
00:09:23.600 And Trump sees that.
00:09:24.700 He knows that lesson himself.
00:09:26.600 He says, hey, buddy, come on in here.
00:09:28.240 You're the mayor now.
00:09:28.900 I didn't want you to be mayor.
00:09:29.740 You're the mayor now.
00:09:31.140 Let's see.
00:09:31.780 How can we work together?
00:09:32.760 Listen, if I can help you out, I'm going to help you out.
00:09:35.980 If I can do it, I'm going to help you out.
00:09:38.160 And I expect that if you can help me out, you're going to help me out too.
00:09:41.780 That's just common sense.
00:09:43.580 And it's the kind of common sense that a guy who's ever worked in business understands,
00:09:48.340 that a person who's ever cut a deal understands, and that politicians really don't understand
00:09:52.860 because they get too far into the weeds.
00:09:54.180 Okay, that's the basic level.
00:09:56.320 The next layer of this, Trump says, yes, I would feel comfortable living in Momdani's New York.
00:10:06.040 It seems like he's conceding something there.
00:10:08.260 It seems like he's saying all that Republican fear-mongering about Momdani, it wasn't true.
00:10:14.040 It was disingenuous.
00:10:16.180 If he really were a jihadi communist, then we wouldn't feel comfortable living in Momdani's New York.
00:10:22.360 But I'm admitting to you now, we are comfortable, so we were lying, right?
00:10:26.360 That's what it seems like he's conceding.
00:10:29.440 However, don't forget, the Republicans lost.
00:10:33.340 He won.
00:10:34.300 Not only the Republicans and the moderate Democrats lost in New York.
00:10:37.100 Momdani won.
00:10:38.440 Momdani is the hottest young thing in politics.
00:10:41.540 And Trump comes out, and he says, oh yeah, no, I would feel comfortable living in Momdani's New York.
00:10:47.600 Especially after he and I chatted off camera.
00:10:50.560 Because, you know, secretly, he and I agree on a lot more than he's letting on.
00:10:56.180 You see what he's doing to him?
00:10:58.040 You see how he's just twisting that knife?
00:11:00.100 And Momdani's standing up there smiling like a doofus because he's got nothing else to do because he's in Trump's house, which happens to be the most powerful building in the world in all of politics.
00:11:12.160 He's standing there.
00:11:12.840 He's like, oh, yeah, listen, look, I'm not worried.
00:11:17.520 I was a little nervous about living in Momdani's New York before the meeting.
00:11:20.700 But after the meeting, I realized we secretly agree on a lot.
00:11:23.440 He's really on my side secretly.
00:11:25.060 And there's Momdani.
00:11:25.640 It's just masterful.
00:11:30.140 Trump's being so nice that Momdani can't fight him in the room.
00:11:34.180 But by not fighting him in the room, he has to implicitly accept that he and Trump secretly agree, which puts him in a terrible place with his voters in New York, his constituents, who are radically leftist, who are radically opposed to Donald Trump.
00:11:49.080 It made Momdani squirm.
00:11:51.840 Momdani left that meeting much weaker than he went in.
00:11:57.380 And Trump left that meeting much stronger because to the point we just mentioned that Momdani is the hottest young thing in politics.
00:12:03.880 After those elections, two, three weeks ago, whenever they were, everyone said, OK, Trump's a lame duck now.
00:12:09.180 He's a lame duck.
00:12:10.080 The Republicans lost in New York, in New Jersey, in Virginia.
00:12:15.360 We're already talking about 2028.
00:12:17.060 We're already talking about the bright young things in the party.
00:12:19.120 Zoran Momdani is the new hot young thing.
00:12:21.320 So much so that a reporter asked if he were the new leader of the Democrat Party.
00:12:24.820 It's all about everyone else but Trump.
00:12:27.360 And what happens?
00:12:28.320 Trump brings Momdani to the Oval Office.
00:12:31.860 And he makes it all about Trump again.
00:12:33.900 It's all about Trump again.
00:12:35.940 And now Momdani, he's Trump's little pizza boy.
00:12:40.120 He's trying, hey, Mr. Trump, can I get you a cup of coffee?
00:12:42.920 And yeah, can I get you a bagel, Mr. Trump?
00:12:44.660 No, I'm OK.
00:12:45.200 Thank you, Zoran.
00:12:45.840 It's all about Trump again.
00:12:49.640 He made himself the star again.
00:12:52.400 It's political science classes should study that meeting.
00:12:57.620 The absolute flip of political momentum, the absolute inversion of the political communications
00:13:04.600 that we've gotten out of the last two weeks.
00:13:08.080 Unbelievable.
00:13:08.720 He did the one thing you didn't expect him to do, which is, just as a general rule, the
00:13:16.720 thing politicians should do.
00:13:18.120 OK, speaking of Trump making it about him again, we got more evidence of this coming out of
00:13:23.000 Congress.
00:13:24.360 Marjorie Taylor Greene, one of the stalwart MAGA, most pro-Trump, belligerently pro-Trump
00:13:30.360 voices out there.
00:13:31.120 She's quitting Congress because of Trump.
00:13:33.720 We'll get to what that means.
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00:16:15.440 The once big bright star in the Republican Party in Congress,
00:16:20.680 pro-MAGA, pro-Trump,
00:16:22.760 as belligerently rock-ribbed right wing as it gets.
00:16:26.660 Last week we saw she went on CNN
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00:16:39.380 she's quitting Congress in the new year
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00:16:44.840 I have too much self-respect and dignity.
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00:16:52.700 to have to endure a hurtful and hateful primary
00:16:55.860 against me by the president that we all fought for,
00:16:59.300 only to fight and win my election
00:17:01.440 while Republicans will likely lose the midterms
00:17:04.680 and in turn be expected to defend the president
00:17:07.860 against impeachment
00:17:09.100 after he hatefully dumped tens of millions of dollars
00:17:12.480 against me and tried to destroy me.
00:17:15.300 It's all so absurd and completely unserious.
00:17:19.560 I refuse to be a battered wife,
00:17:21.620 hoping it all goes away and gets better.
00:17:23.980 If I am cast aside by the president
00:17:26.280 and the MAGA political machine
00:17:28.360 and replaced by neocons,
00:17:30.480 big pharma, big tech,
00:17:32.500 military industrial war complex,
00:17:35.060 foreign leaders,
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00:17:42.440 have been cast aside and replaced as well.
00:17:45.740 Okay.
00:17:46.880 I personally like Marjorie Green.
00:17:48.540 She's been on the show before.
00:17:49.700 I don't mean any of this personally.
00:17:51.620 Just putting on my cold political analyst glasses here.
00:17:56.920 This is an amazing turn of events for the president
00:17:59.180 because what we were talking about earlier with Momdani,
00:18:02.580 everyone's been saying,
00:18:03.480 oh, Trump, he's a lame duck.
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00:18:06.540 He's not the star of the show anymore.
00:18:07.820 He's not calling the shots.
00:18:08.880 People are moving on to 2028, blah, blah, blah.
00:18:13.020 Trump just personally destroyed Marjorie Taylor Greene's political career.
00:18:17.960 He personally did that.
00:18:19.080 He is the sole reason that she is quitting Congress right now.
00:18:24.460 Marjorie Taylor Greene has had a number of lives in politics.
00:18:28.080 She started out,
00:18:29.660 she was that rock-ribbed, pro-MAGA, right-wing superstar.
00:18:36.300 Then, you remember during the speaker fight in Congress?
00:18:40.460 During the speaker fight,
00:18:41.840 she cozied up a little bit more to the leadership of the Congress.
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00:19:05.200 Trump signaled that he was not so happy with her,
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00:19:13.380 Then she goes on CNN,
00:19:14.920 and she tries to get a little more audience.
00:19:17.960 I'm speaking in the terms of the media,
00:19:19.580 but try to get a little more constituency,
00:19:21.120 a little bit more support, a little bit more juice there.
00:19:23.420 I'm sorry.
00:19:24.260 I shouldn't have contributed to this harshness of politics.
00:19:26.320 You see a little more of a pivot to moderate.
00:19:29.900 All to keep that political career going.
00:19:34.760 And now she's saying,
00:19:35.780 all right, I'm quitting Congress.
00:19:37.620 Trump, you win.
00:19:39.680 What did it take?
00:19:41.720 This is very, again,
00:19:42.700 put Marjorie aside for a second.
00:19:44.860 She and I have always gotten along just fine.
00:19:46.920 Plenty of people like Marjorie Greene.
00:19:49.600 Just consider this.
00:19:52.460 Everyone's saying that Trump is a lame duck,
00:19:54.500 and he doesn't have any juice anymore.
00:19:56.320 It took one truth social post from President Trump,
00:19:59.840 and this woman,
00:20:00.740 who was one of the rising stars of the Republican Party,
00:20:03.720 she's done because of one truth social post from Trump
00:20:06.880 saying that he was going to primary her in her district.
00:20:10.000 That was it.
00:20:10.340 She admits that.
00:20:11.300 She says,
00:20:11.760 I don't want to subject my district to a bruising primary.
00:20:15.200 Now she spins it,
00:20:16.020 and she says,
00:20:16.620 because I would win that primary,
00:20:18.320 but then I'd be really upset about having had to fight with Trump,
00:20:22.380 and I don't want to defend him anymore,
00:20:23.660 and so I'm out.
00:20:24.240 Now, maybe that's true.
00:20:26.840 Maybe she would have lost the primary.
00:20:29.340 I guess we'll never know,
00:20:30.780 because she's quitting because Trump threatened to primary her.
00:20:35.360 The top takeaway doesn't have to be personal about Marjorie Greene at all.
00:20:40.940 The top takeaway is that Trump is still calling the shots.
00:20:44.300 Trump is still the head of the Republican Party.
00:20:46.480 Trump is still the dynamic force in American politics,
00:20:49.320 and even I didn't know if that would be the case at this stage in the cycle
00:20:54.120 because it's his second term.
00:20:56.680 So it's a weird one because it's a non-consecutive second term,
00:20:59.660 but we're in the second term.
00:21:01.060 And so at this stage,
00:21:03.140 a reelected president,
00:21:04.880 a president in his second term,
00:21:06.260 should be losing his mojo,
00:21:07.600 should be losing his juice,
00:21:08.420 especially going into the midterms.
00:21:09.560 And that could have been the case for Trump,
00:21:11.840 and it's just not.
00:21:13.060 Not yet, anyway.
00:21:15.140 Very, very impressive.
00:21:17.400 So where does the Republican Party stand?
00:21:19.020 Where does the conservative movement stand?
00:21:20.500 Elon has just revealed to us
00:21:22.040 that a lot of the pro-America,
00:21:25.660 or at least America politics obsessed Twitter accounts
00:21:30.980 are foreigners.
00:21:32.540 They're not actually from America.
00:21:34.700 And he did this because now when you click on part of the profile,
00:21:37.940 you can see where the accounts are based
00:21:39.740 and where the accounts are connected.
00:21:43.020 And so there's one account, for instance,
00:21:45.180 the AtAmerican,
00:21:46.840 and it's a bald eagle over an American flag,
00:21:48.980 AtAmerican account,
00:21:51.360 joined Twitter in 2007.
00:21:53.400 Hold on, go back, go back.
00:21:54.900 I just started talking about this.
00:21:56.120 They changed my picture.
00:21:56.880 There we go.
00:21:57.120 The AtAmerican account
00:21:58.660 joined in March 2007,
00:22:02.540 and the account is based in South Asia.
00:22:06.580 And it had one username change in 2018.
00:22:09.020 Who knows?
00:22:09.340 It might have been a bigger account that they sold.
00:22:10.740 We don't really know the history of it.
00:22:12.280 Connected via the South Asia app store.
00:22:14.680 So it's not even as though
00:22:15.820 this is just someone who happened to go on vacation to,
00:22:18.820 I don't know, India or something.
00:22:21.520 No, no.
00:22:22.100 This account is based there
00:22:23.620 and connected via the app store there.
00:22:26.240 What's the other?
00:22:26.740 Times of Gaza.
00:22:28.100 A lot of this has had to do with the Israel-Gaza war.
00:22:30.240 So the Times of Gaza account,
00:22:33.460 just posting from on the ground,
00:22:35.640 these Palestinian journalists,
00:22:37.180 it joined in November 2018 in West Asia.
00:22:40.000 So what, Pakistan or something?
00:22:42.440 Turkey.
00:22:43.400 Account based in East Asia and the Pacific.
00:22:46.460 It's been verified since January of last year.
00:22:48.940 Three name changes,
00:22:49.780 so we don't know what it was
00:22:50.500 before it was Times of Gaza.
00:22:51.980 Connected via the North Africa app store.
00:22:54.200 So it's like everywhere other than Gaza.
00:22:58.780 Okay.
00:22:59.900 What about,
00:23:01.000 there's one tweet,
00:23:01.980 it was really funny.
00:23:03.440 It's this white family.
00:23:05.600 And they say that they've converted to Islam.
00:23:08.120 And it looks pretty AI.
00:23:09.640 But this is from Martin,
00:23:10.620 D. Martin says,
00:23:11.180 just four days ago,
00:23:11.840 I announced my conversion to Islam
00:23:13.040 with my wife,
00:23:13.600 Jessica,
00:23:13.900 here in Los Angeles,
00:23:14.760 American flag.
00:23:15.720 Since then,
00:23:16.100 I've received threats of being fired
00:23:17.160 if I don't leave my faith.
00:23:18.540 But I'll never back down.
00:23:19.720 I've submitted to Allah
00:23:20.540 and I stand firm no matter the cost.
00:23:21.980 And you look at this and you're like,
00:23:22.780 this is truly AI slop.
00:23:24.880 Like it's not even a good picture
00:23:26.360 of converting to Islam.
00:23:28.280 Then you find out
00:23:29.220 that this account,
00:23:30.520 D. Martin,
00:23:31.540 where's it based?
00:23:32.680 Give me the location.
00:23:34.160 Joined in September of this year.
00:23:36.240 So joined two months ago.
00:23:37.280 Account based in West Asia.
00:23:38.840 Not Los Angeles.
00:23:40.620 Not the US.
00:23:42.100 Verified since last month.
00:23:43.920 Two name changes
00:23:44.940 connected via West Asia.
00:23:46.240 Okay.
00:23:46.700 So,
00:23:47.740 what does this tell us?
00:23:49.520 It tells us something,
00:23:51.020 but people are reaching
00:23:53.980 for all the wrong conclusions.
00:23:56.020 It tells us that we're in the midst
00:23:57.540 of an information war,
00:23:58.640 obviously.
00:23:59.520 We're in the midst of an information war
00:24:01.040 in the United States.
00:24:01.960 And so,
00:24:02.620 foreign actors
00:24:03.700 are going to try to manipulate
00:24:05.120 that information war.
00:24:07.620 However,
00:24:08.740 there is a great deal of copium
00:24:10.880 being injected straight into the veins
00:24:13.120 by people who don't want to admit
00:24:15.880 that the political parties are shifting,
00:24:18.040 who don't want to admit
00:24:18.980 that Americans' opinions
00:24:20.580 on various issues,
00:24:22.300 including Israel
00:24:23.560 and the Middle East
00:24:24.620 and foreign policy generally,
00:24:26.260 are shifting.
00:24:27.080 They don't want to admit it.
00:24:28.140 So,
00:24:28.360 what they're going to conclude,
00:24:29.960 and it's a hodgepodge
00:24:31.020 of boomers,
00:24:33.120 Gen X,
00:24:34.460 radically pro-Israel people,
00:24:36.880 neoconservatives,
00:24:38.220 what they want to conclude is,
00:24:39.660 this is all an op.
00:24:40.980 The apparent fighting
00:24:42.240 over US foreign policy
00:24:43.500 between the interventionists
00:24:44.560 and the isolationists,
00:24:46.040 between the Zionists
00:24:47.160 and the anti-Zionists,
00:24:48.540 between the imperialists
00:24:49.720 and the nationalists,
00:24:50.480 blah, blah, blah.
00:24:51.940 That that's all an op.
00:24:53.600 And it's just because
00:24:54.760 some bad actors
00:24:55.800 from Iran
00:24:56.800 and Qatar
00:24:57.600 and Pakistan
00:24:58.660 and India,
00:24:59.760 they're just manipulating us
00:25:01.500 on Twitter
00:25:01.960 and it's all fake.
00:25:03.820 And that is not the case.
00:25:05.520 I went through,
00:25:06.200 just even in my own mentions
00:25:07.320 and in other tweets,
00:25:09.360 to see,
00:25:09.720 okay,
00:25:09.880 some of the other big accounts
00:25:11.280 that are pushing these shifts,
00:25:12.820 are they all from elsewhere?
00:25:14.320 Are they all from India?
00:25:15.020 Are they all from Turkey?
00:25:15.860 And no,
00:25:16.200 they're not.
00:25:16.640 A lot of them
00:25:17.040 are from the United States.
00:25:19.140 There's obviously
00:25:20.420 a foreign information war
00:25:22.380 going on.
00:25:22.960 That's true.
00:25:24.400 But you have to ask yourself
00:25:25.480 the next question.
00:25:27.180 Why do information wars work?
00:25:29.620 Why do people wage them
00:25:30.540 in the first place?
00:25:31.420 It's not to just
00:25:32.580 totally brainwash people.
00:25:35.040 It's not even to plant
00:25:36.960 new ideas in people's minds.
00:25:38.940 It's to exacerbate
00:25:40.460 existing tensions.
00:25:41.740 That's how information wars
00:25:42.900 really work well,
00:25:44.140 is when there are
00:25:44.920 already tensions
00:25:45.980 over foreign policy
00:25:47.520 intervention versus isolation,
00:25:49.180 over supporting Israel
00:25:50.320 versus not supporting Israel
00:25:52.120 versus outright opposing Israel.
00:25:53.700 When there are
00:25:54.540 already tensions,
00:25:56.100 when there are
00:25:56.640 classically during
00:25:57.700 the Cold War,
00:25:59.640 the Soviet Union
00:26:00.160 exploited racial tensions
00:26:01.460 in the United States
00:26:02.300 to great effect.
00:26:04.060 It's not just that
00:26:05.120 the communist agitator groups,
00:26:06.980 largely backed by the USSR,
00:26:08.700 the KGB even,
00:26:09.840 in the 60s and 70s.
00:26:11.580 It's not that they invented
00:26:13.380 the idea of racial strife
00:26:14.460 in America.
00:26:14.840 It's that they exploited it
00:26:16.000 and it worked.
00:26:16.780 There were race riots.
00:26:17.900 There were all sorts of battles
00:26:19.020 that took place.
00:26:20.080 There were radical racial groups.
00:26:21.880 That's what's happening here.
00:26:24.680 The information war has worked
00:26:26.480 because of the underlying tensions.
00:26:30.440 And a lot of that,
00:26:32.300 look, sure,
00:26:32.880 there are plenty of foreign accounts,
00:26:33.920 but a lot of the fighting
00:26:36.020 on Twitter,
00:26:36.860 especially,
00:26:37.260 is from American accounts.
00:26:40.420 And those tensions
00:26:41.180 really do exist.
00:26:42.420 And the Republican Party
00:26:43.520 and the conservative movement,
00:26:44.280 they can bury their heads
00:26:45.120 in the sand
00:26:45.500 and take the copian
00:26:46.220 and say it's all,
00:26:47.560 you know,
00:26:47.780 the Turks
00:26:48.580 and the Qataris
00:26:49.460 and the Indians.
00:26:50.700 But it's silly.
00:26:52.660 There is a real
00:26:53.900 division brewing.
00:26:57.000 We've seen it
00:26:57.820 on the internet,
00:26:58.560 especially over Israel,
00:26:59.860 but over foreign policy
00:27:01.860 generally,
00:27:02.540 over migration,
00:27:03.460 over the economy
00:27:04.080 in some cases.
00:27:05.380 And the GOP
00:27:06.300 and the conservative movement
00:27:07.020 are going to have
00:27:07.560 to deal with that.
00:27:10.020 So they can either,
00:27:11.280 they can say,
00:27:11.940 okay,
00:27:12.220 it's no,
00:27:12.480 it's not real.
00:27:13.120 La, la, la, la, la, la.
00:27:14.040 It's just the Qataris.
00:27:15.060 La, la, la.
00:27:15.700 But that will be
00:27:16.480 to their own peril
00:27:17.900 because the foreign actors
00:27:19.640 were smart.
00:27:20.280 They exploited things
00:27:21.040 that already exist.
00:27:21.960 And the GOP
00:27:23.040 needs an answer for that.
00:27:24.400 Some people
00:27:24.920 are going to look at this
00:27:25.640 and they're just going to say,
00:27:26.880 look,
00:27:27.420 that's the copium
00:27:27.940 from the boomers
00:27:29.160 and the neocons
00:27:29.920 and the very pro-israel people
00:27:31.420 and all the rest.
00:27:32.560 There's another kind of copium
00:27:33.820 though from the nationalists,
00:27:35.020 which is they say,
00:27:35.880 well, look,
00:27:36.100 these foreigners have no right
00:27:37.260 to interfere in American policy
00:27:38.980 and it's crazy
00:27:40.720 that they're doing that
00:27:41.600 and we just need to stop it.
00:27:43.760 That also is insufficient.
00:27:46.180 I'm not at all surprised
00:27:47.360 that foreigners
00:27:47.780 are trying to interfere
00:27:48.480 in American politics.
00:27:50.040 We're the global empire.
00:27:51.680 That's what happens.
00:27:52.860 You want to talk about
00:27:53.640 the problems
00:27:54.620 in the Levant specifically,
00:27:56.260 Israel, Palestine,
00:27:57.660 Gaza, all that.
00:27:58.280 Every empire
00:27:59.700 that has ever controlled
00:28:00.940 that region
00:28:01.640 has understood it
00:28:03.420 to be a very troublesome province.
00:28:05.440 Okay?
00:28:05.860 And we're now the empire
00:28:07.020 that controls the world.
00:28:08.100 And we might not be that forever
00:28:09.420 and we might not want to be that
00:28:10.760 and we might not have planned
00:28:11.560 to be that,
00:28:12.020 but we just are.
00:28:12.940 Okay?
00:28:13.080 That's a fact.
00:28:14.060 So yes,
00:28:14.660 of course,
00:28:15.140 foreigners are going to fight over it.
00:28:16.480 That's what happens
00:28:17.200 within empires.
00:28:19.260 There's no shortcut.
00:28:21.180 People are going to look
00:28:22.000 at this revelation
00:28:22.900 and they're going to say,
00:28:23.660 oh, good,
00:28:24.100 that fixes all of my problems.
00:28:26.120 Now we see it's all fake,
00:28:27.700 it's all foreign,
00:28:28.360 it's all an op,
00:28:28.980 never mind,
00:28:29.580 move on,
00:28:30.000 nothing to see here.
00:28:30.620 No, no, no,
00:28:30.840 there's a lot to see here.
00:28:32.980 The fact that foreigners
00:28:34.340 are interfering to some degree
00:28:35.700 only tells you
00:28:37.180 that the problems
00:28:37.780 are that manifest.
00:28:38.780 Okay.
00:28:40.140 Speaking of foreigners,
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00:32:03.920 I made a claim.
00:32:05.300 This was a week ago on Bar Fight.
00:32:07.920 We were debating illegal immigration
00:32:09.820 and entitlements and social security.
00:32:11.440 And I said that illegal aliens
00:32:14.740 steal social security numbers
00:32:17.100 and they do that
00:32:19.400 in order to get employment.
00:32:20.480 So even when the left says,
00:32:23.160 look, I don't want to count
00:32:24.340 illegal immigration as a crime.
00:32:26.020 If you take out the actual act
00:32:27.640 of crossing the border,
00:32:28.980 illegal aliens don't commit crimes.
00:32:30.880 You say, well, hold on.
00:32:32.160 They steal social security numbers, right?
00:32:33.720 That's a crime.
00:32:36.760 Do illegal aliens pay federal taxes?
00:32:40.540 Yeah, actually, they do.
00:32:41.540 They do.
00:32:42.160 Sales tax and income tax often.
00:32:44.180 90 billion, I believe.
00:32:44.880 Actually, the IRS has a whole system
00:32:46.200 for people who are undocumented
00:32:47.220 to file taxes.
00:32:48.300 Okay, so I'm glad.
00:32:49.420 And by the way,
00:32:50.000 economists overwhelmingly believe
00:32:51.620 that immigration,
00:32:52.460 including illegal immigration,
00:32:53.780 is a net positive.
00:32:54.520 Forget about that.
00:32:55.560 I just have one.
00:32:56.560 Overwhelmingly.
00:32:56.960 I have one question for you.
00:32:58.400 Because if you make the point,
00:33:00.080 as you have,
00:33:01.000 that actually, you know,
00:33:02.060 illegal aliens,
00:33:02.700 even though they don't have
00:33:03.200 social security numbers,
00:33:04.060 they do pay federal taxes
00:33:05.380 because, you know,
00:33:06.740 to get employment,
00:33:07.740 sometimes they'll use
00:33:08.380 other social security numbers.
00:33:10.160 So they don't get the benefits,
00:33:11.680 but they do pay into the system.
00:33:13.500 That's a fact.
00:33:14.140 Yeah, okay.
00:33:14.840 That's a federal crime.
00:33:16.080 42 U.S. Code, Section 408.
00:33:18.040 Sure, sure, sure.
00:33:18.280 It's a federal crime
00:33:18.940 to steal the social security number.
00:33:20.480 So there you go.
00:33:21.140 You got it.
00:33:21.560 No, no, no.
00:33:22.060 I just want to be clear.
00:33:22.620 I just want to be clear.
00:33:23.240 The IRS has a process
00:33:23.780 for people to pay taxes without it.
00:33:25.200 It's stealing the social security number,
00:33:26.900 which he just admitted is a crime.
00:33:29.760 Okay, so the rejoinder to that,
00:33:32.580 after I caught the libs
00:33:34.180 in that unfortunate problem for them,
00:33:36.700 they said,
00:33:36.980 well, no, no, no.
00:33:37.480 Hold on.
00:33:38.020 Hold on.
00:33:38.380 The illegal aliens,
00:33:41.260 yeah, sure,
00:33:41.660 some of them steal
00:33:42.180 social security numbers,
00:33:43.180 but mostly what they do
00:33:44.620 is there's a separate system
00:33:45.680 for them to pay into their taxes
00:33:48.940 so they try not to get deported.
00:33:50.620 And it's really,
00:33:51.240 it's not generally
00:33:52.200 that they steal
00:33:52.740 the social security numbers.
00:33:54.140 So, unfortunately,
00:33:56.080 here in my New York Times article,
00:33:57.440 the whole headline is cut off.
00:33:58.600 But the headline was something
00:33:59.600 to the effect of,
00:34:01.040 two men,
00:34:02.200 one identity,
00:34:03.780 they both paid the price.
00:34:06.480 Two men,
00:34:07.140 one identity,
00:34:07.700 they both paid the price.
00:34:09.780 And it's this white guy,
00:34:11.580 this, like,
00:34:12.320 just American,
00:34:13.620 and some illegal alien Hispanic.
00:34:16.560 And the name
00:34:17.540 is a white guy name
00:34:19.360 because it's two men,
00:34:20.900 one identity,
00:34:21.520 it's the white guy's identity.
00:34:22.980 And the illegal alien
00:34:24.380 stole that identity,
00:34:25.620 and now they're both
00:34:26.920 paying the price.
00:34:29.100 Thousands of undocumented workers
00:34:30.560 rely on fraudulent
00:34:31.460 social security numbers.
00:34:32.740 One of them belonged
00:34:33.980 to Dan Kluver.
00:34:38.320 Okay,
00:34:38.860 what's the story here?
00:34:40.820 This illegal alien
00:34:41.800 had multiple arrests,
00:34:43.940 several DUIs,
00:34:45.240 as a lot of illegal aliens do,
00:34:46.900 which is one reason
00:34:48.080 that illegal aliens
00:34:48.900 kill a lot of Americans.
00:34:50.760 Three deportations,
00:34:51.940 but he sneaks back
00:34:52.700 into the country
00:34:53.240 again and again and again,
00:34:54.200 and he stands,
00:34:57.380 he steals
00:34:58.000 Dan Kluver's identity.
00:35:00.740 And now they both
00:35:01.840 pay the price.
00:35:04.960 This guy,
00:35:05.360 Dan Kluver,
00:35:05.860 he's got all the,
00:35:06.480 he gets pulled over,
00:35:07.200 he's got all these problems,
00:35:08.160 all these crimes
00:35:08.720 attributed to him.
00:35:09.960 And Dan Kluver says,
00:35:11.080 I didn't do any of that,
00:35:12.040 what are you talking about?
00:35:12.780 And it's because
00:35:13.180 an illegal alien
00:35:13.880 steals his identity.
00:35:15.560 And then the New York Times
00:35:16.480 comes out
00:35:16.960 and places both men together,
00:35:20.040 side by side,
00:35:20.780 and pretends
00:35:22.360 that they are equivalent.
00:35:24.280 Pretends that the identity
00:35:25.340 doesn't even belong
00:35:26.340 to one of the men.
00:35:27.280 So, oh, it's just,
00:35:28.000 isn't this,
00:35:28.960 ah, immigration,
00:35:30.760 isn't it so tough?
00:35:32.120 Oh, you know,
00:35:33.080 it's like in immigration,
00:35:35.360 you got like
00:35:35.960 the Native Americans
00:35:37.360 who want to keep
00:35:38.240 their identity,
00:35:39.080 but you got the illegal aliens
00:35:40.900 who break our most
00:35:41.920 basic laws immediately.
00:35:43.500 And, you know,
00:35:44.180 they got to steal the identity.
00:35:45.800 They got to, right?
00:35:46.640 Because they want to
00:35:47.860 commit more crimes.
00:35:49.060 So it's like
00:35:50.220 immigration,
00:35:51.280 politics,
00:35:51.940 am I right?
00:35:52.520 It's like,
00:35:52.820 what are you going to do?
00:35:54.720 Sometimes you want
00:35:55.720 to keep your identity.
00:35:56.740 Sometimes you want
00:35:57.360 to steal some guy's identity.
00:35:58.580 It's like,
00:35:58.800 what are we going to do?
00:35:59.380 We're all just people, man,
00:36:00.420 you know?
00:36:01.860 Now they're both
00:36:02.640 paying the price
00:36:03.480 because the one guy,
00:36:05.240 the American guy,
00:36:06.060 had his life ruined
00:36:06.980 and the illegal alien
00:36:08.820 now might have to
00:36:10.560 pay for some of his crimes.
00:36:12.440 It's like consequences,
00:36:13.900 you know?
00:36:14.160 It's just like awful.
00:36:15.400 It's just like awful, man.
00:36:17.400 This is,
00:36:17.840 this is as perfectly
00:36:19.940 New York Times as it gets.
00:36:21.560 Just perfect.
00:36:23.820 And it shows you exactly
00:36:25.420 what the elite media
00:36:28.500 and the elite political class
00:36:31.240 think of Americans.
00:36:32.760 You can have a case
00:36:33.740 that is as open,
00:36:34.800 as shut,
00:36:35.520 as it gets.
00:36:37.580 American,
00:36:38.580 total victim
00:36:39.660 in every way.
00:36:41.240 Illegal alien,
00:36:42.620 cartoonishly villainous,
00:36:44.340 criminal,
00:36:46.000 just does every wrong thing.
00:36:49.880 And the,
00:36:51.080 the,
00:36:51.460 the most fair
00:36:53.600 that the New York Times
00:36:54.700 will be
00:36:55.080 is to say
00:36:56.820 that they're basically equal.
00:36:58.540 I'm sure what they want to say
00:36:59.620 is that the white guy's evil
00:37:00.660 and the illegal alien
00:37:01.960 is the hero.
00:37:02.760 They can't quite do that here.
00:37:04.420 The,
00:37:04.600 the most fair coverage
00:37:05.820 you're going to see
00:37:06.300 is,
00:37:06.640 well,
00:37:06.720 they're basically equal.
00:37:09.760 Which brings us to
00:37:10.860 the State Department's
00:37:11.720 very,
00:37:12.240 very important point.
00:37:13.880 This issue
00:37:14.960 of mass migration
00:37:16.840 is arguably
00:37:18.820 the most important issue
00:37:21.040 not just in the United States
00:37:23.060 but throughout the West.
00:37:24.700 We'll get to that
00:37:25.080 momentarily first.
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00:39:17.280 My favorite comment yesterday
00:39:18.660 is from Jim Bob,
00:39:19.540 the builder 757.
00:39:21.440 It says,
00:39:21.760 Michael,
00:39:22.100 you got to hand it
00:39:22.740 to these Somalis,
00:39:23.800 Minnesota taxpayers
00:39:24.680 way ahead of you, Mike.
00:39:26.460 You got to,
00:39:27.220 oh, we've been handing it
00:39:27.940 to them for a long time
00:39:28.620 and they've been handing
00:39:29.660 our money to Al Shabab,
00:39:31.320 which makes
00:39:31.860 the Minnesota taxpayer
00:39:32.980 the single largest donor
00:39:35.360 to a Muslim terror group
00:39:37.400 in the Middle East.
00:39:38.140 Okay.
00:39:38.600 Or in Somalia, I suppose.
00:39:40.440 State Department
00:39:40.920 comes out on this point.
00:39:42.320 So this has the imprimatur
00:39:43.440 of the federal government.
00:39:45.520 Mass migration poses
00:39:46.600 an existential threat
00:39:47.920 to Western civilization
00:39:48.900 and undermines the stability
00:39:50.480 of key American allies.
00:39:52.040 Today,
00:39:52.340 the State Department
00:39:52.920 instructed U.S. embassies
00:39:54.620 to report on the human rights
00:39:55.740 implications
00:39:56.260 and public safety impacts
00:39:57.460 of mass migration.
00:39:59.700 Mass migration
00:40:00.500 is a human rights concern.
00:40:01.620 Western nations
00:40:02.480 have endured crime waves,
00:40:03.580 terror attacks,
00:40:04.160 sexual assaults,
00:40:04.800 and displacement
00:40:05.260 of communities.
00:40:06.220 U.S. officials
00:40:06.720 will urge governments
00:40:07.600 to take bold action
00:40:08.480 and defend citizens
00:40:09.300 against the threats
00:40:10.000 posed by mass migration.
00:40:11.760 Officials will also
00:40:12.480 report policies
00:40:13.260 that punish citizens
00:40:14.200 who object
00:40:15.080 to continuous mass migration
00:40:16.460 and document crimes
00:40:17.740 and human rights abuses
00:40:18.640 committed by people
00:40:19.760 of a migration background.
00:40:20.800 Because one of the issues
00:40:22.020 is you have
00:40:23.580 this mass migration
00:40:24.680 being brought into the West
00:40:26.240 for reasons
00:40:26.740 that we'll get to in a second.
00:40:28.040 And then the moment
00:40:29.000 that the chuds,
00:40:30.320 the moment
00:40:31.560 that the regular dudes
00:40:34.180 in all these countries
00:40:35.740 oppose mass migration
00:40:37.820 and they object in any way,
00:40:40.640 they are punished.
00:40:41.640 They are punished
00:40:42.120 by their culture,
00:40:43.000 they are fired from their jobs,
00:40:44.180 they're punished
00:40:44.520 at their schools,
00:40:45.100 or they're prosecuted.
00:40:47.180 In countries
00:40:47.920 that have less robust
00:40:49.020 protections for speech,
00:40:50.040 they're actually prosecuted.
00:40:52.860 You're not even allowed
00:40:53.840 to object to the policies
00:40:55.500 that the elites
00:40:57.080 are cramming down our throats.
00:40:58.700 In the United Kingdom,
00:40:59.500 thousands of girls
00:41:00.020 have been victimized
00:41:00.660 in Rotherham, Oxford,
00:41:02.040 and Newcastle
00:41:02.640 by grooming gangs
00:41:03.360 involving migrant men.
00:41:04.580 Many girls were left
00:41:05.300 to suffer unspeakable abuse
00:41:06.400 for years before
00:41:07.160 authorities stepped in.
00:41:08.160 We've covered that on the show.
00:41:09.640 In Sweden,
00:41:10.260 an Eritrean migrant
00:41:11.080 convicted of raping
00:41:11.880 a 16-year-old girl
00:41:12.780 was allowed to remain
00:41:13.720 in the country
00:41:14.240 after a judge ruled
00:41:15.260 that the incident
00:41:15.720 was not an exceptionally
00:41:16.500 serious crime
00:41:17.220 and did not warrant deportation.
00:41:18.700 That's true.
00:41:19.060 I think we covered that one too.
00:41:21.700 Eritrean migrant
00:41:22.400 rapes a teenage girl
00:41:24.080 and the judge says,
00:41:25.680 oh, it's not all that serious.
00:41:27.700 Or it's at least
00:41:28.120 not exceptional
00:41:28.700 because all these migrants
00:41:29.520 are raping little kids.
00:41:32.200 In Germany,
00:41:32.720 nine men,
00:41:33.280 several of whom
00:41:33.660 were migrants,
00:41:34.220 were convicted
00:41:34.580 for the gang rape
00:41:35.360 of a 15-year-old girl.
00:41:36.760 A German woman
00:41:37.380 who insulted
00:41:37.900 one of the rapists online
00:41:39.020 was given a harsher sentence
00:41:40.460 than the perpetrators themselves.
00:41:43.060 It's a real story.
00:41:45.980 So what's the upside?
00:41:47.100 What are we getting at
00:41:48.220 with the State Department?
00:41:48.980 The U.S. officials
00:41:49.760 will now scrutinize policies
00:41:51.200 in Western nations
00:41:53.400 that give leniency
00:41:54.060 to migrant crime
00:41:54.820 and human rights abuses
00:41:55.820 or that create two-tiered systems
00:41:57.060 that prioritize migrants
00:41:58.320 at the expense
00:41:58.720 of their own citizens.
00:41:59.900 The United States
00:42:00.440 supports the sovereignty
00:42:01.160 of our allies
00:42:01.680 and calls on governments
00:42:02.400 to constructively engage
00:42:03.540 with the growing number
00:42:04.240 of citizens concerned
00:42:05.260 about mass migration.
00:42:06.540 The U.S. stands ready
00:42:07.180 to assist
00:42:07.680 in solving the global crisis
00:42:10.700 of mass migration.
00:42:11.760 Previously,
00:42:12.920 what our elites told us
00:42:13.840 was that mass migration
00:42:14.840 was the solution
00:42:15.780 to other crises.
00:42:17.640 Crises of war
00:42:18.700 and the need for refuge
00:42:20.360 and whatever.
00:42:21.720 Climate change,
00:42:22.840 the climate refugees.
00:42:23.600 And now,
00:42:24.920 our State Department
00:42:25.520 is accurately saying
00:42:26.280 mass migration
00:42:26.940 is the crisis.
00:42:28.100 This is a big crisis.
00:42:28.840 We talked about
00:42:29.300 shifting Republican
00:42:30.960 and conservative thoughts
00:42:32.040 on all sorts of issues.
00:42:34.260 A big one is on migration.
00:42:35.700 Used to be that
00:42:36.340 the debate was between
00:42:37.280 whether on the left
00:42:39.140 we wanted more legal immigration
00:42:40.820 and more illegal immigration.
00:42:43.320 No human is illegal.
00:42:44.540 Borders are evil.
00:42:45.620 Whatever.
00:42:46.100 That view.
00:42:46.820 And then on the right,
00:42:48.380 the view that we wanted
00:42:49.640 less illegal immigration
00:42:50.840 but still more legal immigration.
00:42:52.780 Those were the two views
00:42:53.600 you were allowed to have.
00:42:54.640 There was the left wing view,
00:42:55.680 there was the right wing view.
00:42:56.500 There's a third view
00:42:57.180 that is certainly my opinion,
00:43:00.220 has been my stated opinion
00:43:01.140 for many, many years now
00:43:02.220 and I think it's
00:43:03.140 the majority opinion
00:43:04.020 in the country
00:43:04.480 which is we need
00:43:05.480 drastically less migration overall.
00:43:08.120 And for the people
00:43:09.060 who are beating up on Trump
00:43:09.920 because they're saying
00:43:10.340 his deportations aren't enough,
00:43:11.620 this is the first year
00:43:12.680 that we are on track
00:43:14.180 to have net negative migration
00:43:16.720 in like 50 years.
00:43:18.420 Okay?
00:43:19.220 So the people
00:43:19.960 who are just casting stones
00:43:21.060 from the sidelines
00:43:21.840 are jokes
00:43:22.980 as far as I'm concerned
00:43:23.880 because Trump
00:43:24.260 is the first guy
00:43:24.980 to actually get this done
00:43:25.940 in half a century.
00:43:28.180 And we need it to increase
00:43:29.540 and we need it around the world
00:43:30.840 and because we're
00:43:31.500 the global empire
00:43:32.200 and because the people
00:43:34.620 running our country
00:43:35.340 recognize that
00:43:36.360 as Trump
00:43:37.540 with his proper
00:43:38.400 American first vision
00:43:39.740 understands that.
00:43:41.180 They're saying,
00:43:41.820 well hold on,
00:43:42.280 we are a global empire,
00:43:43.840 we provide the military
00:43:45.200 coverage for
00:43:47.220 the entire West
00:43:48.260 and we are the world police
00:43:50.220 and we have military centers
00:43:51.500 all over the world.
00:43:52.140 Because of that,
00:43:53.300 let's use our power for good
00:43:54.440 and not just stupid stuff
00:43:55.600 like regime change wars
00:43:56.940 to plant Madisonian democracy
00:43:58.680 in Iraq
00:43:59.140 or not just to,
00:44:00.720 I don't know,
00:44:01.040 overthrow governments
00:44:02.240 that aren't sufficiently
00:44:03.320 protecting LGBTism
00:44:04.860 or what.
00:44:05.280 Let's do it for some good here.
00:44:06.720 Let's maybe protect,
00:44:08.020 let's protect Christians.
00:44:09.400 We can get to that story
00:44:10.040 in a second in Nigeria
00:44:10.800 or let's,
00:44:12.120 I don't know,
00:44:12.620 at the very least,
00:44:13.260 stop the invasion
00:44:13.960 of our countries
00:44:15.280 by political Islam
00:44:17.440 which has been trying
00:44:18.300 to invade the West
00:44:19.120 for 1,400 years.
00:44:20.420 And we've mostly managed
00:44:21.780 to push them back
00:44:22.660 and now we're just
00:44:23.400 inviting them in
00:44:23.920 and it's totally crazy.
00:44:25.160 Someone needs to stop it
00:44:26.160 and we need the political vision
00:44:28.900 to stop it.
00:44:29.720 Few people have that these days
00:44:30.720 and the political courage.
00:44:32.680 But it's it.
00:44:33.680 And I think any conservative politician,
00:44:37.060 any politician period
00:44:38.060 who doesn't take seriously
00:44:39.180 the problems of migration
00:44:40.280 as such,
00:44:41.300 not just illegal immigration,
00:44:42.640 not just people
00:44:43.600 who violate certain procedures,
00:44:45.140 but migration as such
00:44:46.760 is going to flop
00:44:47.860 in the coming years.
00:44:49.740 Now, speaking of threats
00:44:50.440 to Western civilization,
00:44:52.540 Woke Preacher Clips,
00:44:53.580 a very funny account,
00:44:54.640 has just posted
00:44:55.380 a very frustrating
00:44:56.580 and ridiculous video.
00:44:59.020 A little error though
00:45:00.120 because it was reported
00:45:01.600 that,
00:45:03.020 well, you'll see why
00:45:03.840 momentarily,
00:45:05.240 that this woman,
00:45:07.200 preacher,
00:45:07.860 preacherette,
00:45:09.100 priestess,
00:45:10.040 is a Catholic priest
00:45:12.100 here's what,
00:45:14.080 here's what she has to say.
00:45:17.260 Here's some things
00:45:18.100 this clerical caller
00:45:19.020 does not allow me to do.
00:45:21.140 One,
00:45:21.940 ignore systemic injustice.
00:45:24.680 My faith demands
00:45:26.000 that I advocate
00:45:26.900 for the marginalized.
00:45:29.100 And that means speaking out
00:45:30.320 whenever I see injustice
00:45:31.460 or harm taking place
00:45:33.100 within our communities.
00:45:34.940 The second thing
00:45:35.760 this clerical caller
00:45:36.460 does not allow me to do
00:45:37.440 is worry about rules
00:45:38.780 more than people.
00:45:40.220 Now, I love Catholicism
00:45:42.480 in my apostolic Catholic faith,
00:45:44.640 but that doesn't mean
00:45:46.440 that rules and liturgy
00:45:47.760 should come before people.
00:45:49.700 This caller also
00:45:50.980 won't let me see
00:45:51.720 a border
00:45:52.400 as something to separate me
00:45:54.080 from other people.
00:45:55.540 This means speaking up
00:45:57.140 for immigrants,
00:45:58.440 for the stranger,
00:45:59.540 for the foreigner,
00:46:00.580 welcoming those,
00:46:01.880 and speaking out
00:46:02.580 when harms
00:46:03.140 are being perpetuated
00:46:04.040 against those communities,
00:46:05.060 which is happening right now.
00:46:06.500 Okay, so this is a Catholic priest.
00:46:09.800 Forget, I mean, whatever.
00:46:10.540 It's just some
00:46:11.020 ridiculous liberal diatribe.
00:46:12.940 She's wearing some rainbow thing.
00:46:14.320 Not in the biblical sense
00:46:15.660 of rainbow, I think.
00:46:17.020 But what I want to talk about
00:46:18.320 is more of the caption.
00:46:20.340 This is a Catholic priest
00:46:21.440 because for those of you
00:46:22.840 who don't follow
00:46:24.340 ecclesiology
00:46:26.920 or church history
00:46:28.320 very closely,
00:46:29.400 that woman is not
00:46:30.500 a Catholic priest.
00:46:31.340 I'm quite confident
00:46:32.000 she's not a Catholic priest.
00:46:33.000 That's because
00:46:33.440 the Catholic Church
00:46:34.320 does not ordain women
00:46:36.160 and cannot ordain women.
00:46:39.320 Many other
00:46:40.220 Protestant denominations,
00:46:42.720 et cetera,
00:46:43.380 have ordained women.
00:46:45.080 The Catholic Church
00:46:45.880 does not do that
00:46:46.760 and cannot do that.
00:46:47.700 The priesthood is male.
00:46:48.960 Period.
00:46:49.440 Full stop.
00:46:50.100 End of story.
00:46:52.720 Some people in modernity,
00:46:54.540 on the left and the right,
00:46:56.000 have trouble understanding this.
00:46:58.560 And for two reasons.
00:46:59.220 Well, on the left,
00:47:00.060 the reason they have
00:47:00.640 trouble understanding this
00:47:01.460 is because they believe
00:47:02.980 that our identity
00:47:03.860 comes from our self-definition.
00:47:05.660 So they'll say,
00:47:06.220 well, this woman identifies
00:47:07.460 as a Catholic priest,
00:47:08.380 so she is.
00:47:09.460 Who are you to say
00:47:10.120 she's not a Catholic priest?
00:47:11.060 She identifies that way,
00:47:11.960 so she is.
00:47:12.420 That's the left-wing objection.
00:47:13.680 Kind of silly
00:47:14.680 because the Catholic Church
00:47:17.100 doesn't really care
00:47:17.800 about your self-identity
00:47:18.920 all that much.
00:47:20.200 Certainly if you don't have
00:47:21.260 a correct self-identity.
00:47:22.660 But even some people
00:47:24.200 on the right,
00:47:24.900 especially non-Catholics,
00:47:26.660 will object
00:47:27.240 and they'll say,
00:47:27.900 well, you know,
00:47:28.480 listen,
00:47:29.240 she,
00:47:30.500 there are plenty of Catholics
00:47:31.720 who would like women priests.
00:47:33.860 And she's got
00:47:34.800 some kind of congregation,
00:47:35.780 I guess.
00:47:36.500 And so, you know,
00:47:37.220 really?
00:47:38.320 Maybe she,
00:47:38.960 in a way,
00:47:39.340 she kind of is Catholic,
00:47:40.300 you know?
00:47:41.840 Listen,
00:47:42.260 or it's only a matter of time
00:47:43.400 before it's,
00:47:44.060 before Catholics
00:47:45.120 have women priests.
00:47:46.000 Or look,
00:47:46.340 people want it.
00:47:46.960 You can see public opinion.
00:47:48.420 Actually,
00:47:49.440 public opinion is not moving
00:47:50.440 in the direction
00:47:50.820 of women priests,
00:47:51.500 but let's say it were.
00:47:52.600 Let's say it were.
00:47:53.500 This also fundamentally
00:47:55.460 misunderstands
00:47:56.640 authority
00:47:57.940 because we live
00:47:59.620 in a modern,
00:48:00.660 liberal,
00:48:01.760 democratic age.
00:48:03.040 And even people
00:48:04.140 who are on the right
00:48:04.940 have trouble understanding
00:48:06.540 pre-modern,
00:48:08.900 non-democratic
00:48:09.840 forms of authority.
00:48:11.440 Authority,
00:48:11.940 period,
00:48:12.340 as far as I'm concerned.
00:48:15.400 Not to put too fine
00:48:16.340 a point on it.
00:48:17.340 Every single
00:48:18.320 lay Catholic
00:48:19.460 in the world
00:48:20.720 could desire
00:48:22.220 and choose
00:48:23.600 to recognize
00:48:24.480 so-called
00:48:25.160 women priests.
00:48:27.540 That woman
00:48:28.300 still would not
00:48:29.180 be a priest
00:48:29.800 because it's not
00:48:31.480 up to them.
00:48:32.360 Because the Catholic
00:48:33.240 Church is not
00:48:33.880 a democracy.
00:48:35.100 Because of the voice
00:48:36.020 of the people
00:48:36.500 is not actually
00:48:37.380 the voice of God.
00:48:39.460 Now,
00:48:39.680 a better objection
00:48:40.620 would be,
00:48:41.240 well,
00:48:41.560 you know,
00:48:41.780 listen,
00:48:42.500 there are some
00:48:42.900 crazy bishops
00:48:43.480 out there
00:48:43.920 and we've had
00:48:44.300 some bad popes too.
00:48:45.640 And what would happen?
00:48:47.800 Just you wait
00:48:48.540 until enough
00:48:49.300 liberal bishops
00:48:50.040 get in there
00:48:50.520 and maybe a liberal pope
00:48:51.480 and the pope
00:48:52.320 decides
00:48:52.840 there are going
00:48:53.240 to be women priests.
00:48:55.080 This too
00:48:56.020 misunderstands
00:48:57.220 authority in the church
00:48:58.140 and misunderstands
00:48:59.980 papal infallibility
00:49:00.740 because the pope,
00:49:01.940 we Catholics believe,
00:49:02.780 the pope
00:49:03.200 is infallible
00:49:04.800 when he teaches
00:49:07.000 on certain things
00:49:09.040 in certain circumstances.
00:49:11.460 He's not infallible
00:49:12.780 on all things,
00:49:14.200 in all cases,
00:49:15.140 in all circumstances.
00:49:16.360 He has the ability
00:49:18.060 to teach infallibly
00:49:19.540 on certain matters
00:49:21.340 in certain circumstances.
00:49:23.920 And we have come
00:49:24.840 to this conclusion
00:49:25.620 throughout the history
00:49:27.420 of the church
00:49:27.900 because of the very
00:49:29.260 principle of Catholicity,
00:49:30.760 the universality
00:49:31.420 of the church,
00:49:32.300 because of the
00:49:33.440 historical deference
00:49:34.380 to Rome
00:49:35.160 as the place
00:49:36.920 where Peter and Paul
00:49:37.700 went,
00:49:39.200 as they were sent
00:49:39.960 there
00:49:40.280 and where
00:49:41.140 the seat of Peter
00:49:43.820 remains today.
00:49:46.460 Papal infallibility
00:49:47.460 does not mean
00:49:48.200 that the pope
00:49:48.660 could come out
00:49:49.240 and say,
00:49:49.800 I don't know,
00:49:50.120 declare a fourth
00:49:50.780 person of the Trinity.
00:49:51.960 Okay?
00:49:52.240 The pope could come out
00:49:53.020 and say,
00:49:53.420 I believe there's
00:49:54.660 a fourth person.
00:49:55.400 Probably wouldn't happen,
00:49:56.520 but he couldn't do that.
00:49:58.700 The pope has the ability
00:49:59.960 to teach,
00:50:01.580 to clarify things
00:50:02.640 that are true
00:50:03.380 and that are manifest
00:50:06.900 within the church's
00:50:08.360 2,000-year history
00:50:09.440 and tradition.
00:50:10.020 The pope can't just
00:50:11.560 make stuff up.
00:50:13.000 Okay?
00:50:13.980 And we have so much
00:50:15.660 trouble
00:50:16.080 in our modern age
00:50:18.480 understanding authority
00:50:19.500 even on the right
00:50:20.540 that we fall for this stuff.
00:50:22.500 But there are no priestesses.
00:50:23.620 I know it is the case
00:50:24.900 that many denominations
00:50:26.360 work that way
00:50:27.580 where if enough people
00:50:28.600 want something,
00:50:29.360 then they get it
00:50:30.060 or the church splits
00:50:30.900 and they get two new churches
00:50:32.560 or whatever.
00:50:33.220 But that's not how
00:50:35.520 this institution works,
00:50:36.480 which is why,
00:50:37.440 despite all of the
00:50:38.540 knavish imbecility
00:50:39.700 that has characterized
00:50:41.740 some of its governance
00:50:42.680 for 2,000 years,
00:50:44.600 that is why,
00:50:45.140 in my opinion,
00:50:45.600 that's one of the reasons
00:50:46.260 why, in my opinion,
00:50:47.180 it remains.
00:50:47.960 It's the only institution
00:50:49.320 from antiquity
00:50:50.100 that remains in the West.
00:50:52.240 Maybe there's a reason for that.
00:50:53.240 Okay.
00:50:53.820 Really important
00:50:54.460 Catholic story, actually.
00:50:55.620 Nigerian Catholic kids
00:50:56.480 were just kidnapped.
00:50:57.260 A ton of them were kidnapped.
00:50:59.220 Please pray for them.
00:51:00.280 We don't have time to get in.
00:51:01.140 I'm way late today,
00:51:02.000 but we don't have time
00:51:02.460 to get into the whole story today.
00:51:03.360 We'll get to it tomorrow.
00:51:05.360 Pray for them in the meantime.
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