The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1903 - The Three Million NEW Pages Of Epstein Files EXPLAINED

00:00:00.000 The Department of Justice has released 3 million previously unseen documents,

00:00:04.040 pictures, and videos related to Jeffrey Epstein. I spent the weekend going through more of them

00:00:09.580 than I probably should have. Some of the claims in the files are shocking. The names in the files

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00:02:42.240 and find your forever. This Epstein stuff, man. Thanks a lot, DOJ. Thanks a lot. I know we've

00:02:49.440 been calling for more transparency on Epstein. And even when it comes to transparency, I think

00:02:55.400 what people really want is just justice for people who have committed crimes. And what they want even

00:02:59.840 more than that is to just know who this guy was. Who was Jeffrey Epstein? What does he represent?

00:03:05.940 I think that's really, when people talk about Epstein, that's what they really want. And one

00:03:11.420 way they talk about it is by saying we need justice for the victims. And the more abstracted way they

00:03:16.120 talk about it is we need transparency. We actually don't need transparency over a lot of how our

00:03:20.600 government and Justice Department function. Certain activities of the government, just like activities

00:03:25.660 of business, actually do require some secrecy, some classification. So it's not that we're saying

00:03:30.320 everything needs to be declassified. Everything needs to be transparent. We just want to know,

00:03:34.180 one, we want justice to be done. But two, we want to know who this man is. One of the most

00:03:40.920 revealing places to begin is this series of media training sessions that Steve Bannon,

00:03:49.900 former chief strategist at the White House and of the Trump campaign, Trump won,

00:03:55.600 that he had with Jeffrey Epstein. Apparently, Epstein hired Steve Bannon as a media consultant

00:04:00.800 or something like that. And so this gives people, pretty much for the first time,

00:04:05.540 the opportunity to hear Epstein in his own words. And I'm just going to play a brief clip. I mean,

00:04:10.720 there are hours and hours of this footage. But here's a little brief clip of Epstein talking

00:04:15.800 about one of the big problems in children's education.

00:04:18.800 Potentially one of the bad things to teach children is how to write. Writing, reading,

00:04:27.720 and arithmetic was supposed to be, everyone's supposed to be taught. But writing forces you

00:04:31.960 into a very narrow channel of thinking. You have to write in a certain form, in a certain way,

00:04:38.220 in a certain linear pattern. So your thinking becomes somewhat narrow. The reason I brought up

00:04:44.320 writing is one of the recent discoveries of mine with respect to Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle

00:04:48.780 is they never wrote anything. They spoke, and people around who could write wrote. Socrates could

00:04:58.900 think. So that was...

00:05:01.400 Jesus of Nazareth was the same way, right? Never wrote anything.

00:05:05.280 I thought he was a carpenter.

00:05:07.160 He was a carpenter.

00:05:08.260 Didn't he need like a little carpenter?

00:05:09.640 Just, no, I don't want to get that.

00:05:11.500 But at least his written record.

00:05:13.560 Right.

00:05:13.700 One last thing.

00:05:14.600 Sure.

00:05:15.700 Thank you for having me to your house.

00:05:19.240 No.

00:05:20.100 Um.

00:05:23.000 Okay. So I have three takeaways from this brief clip. One, he doesn't know how to respond when

00:05:30.720 Bannon brings up Christ. That was a little freaky. You know, we've talked about occult aspects

00:05:36.700 of the Epstein operation, the weird pagan-looking temple on the island, and some of the weird

00:05:44.000 rituals and practices that are referenced in some of these emails, and by some of the people

00:05:49.940 who were in the emails. And he reacts in a way, it's not even spooky as much as it is

00:05:57.860 goofy. I thought he was a carpenter. I, what does he need? Little carpenter's tools or what?

00:06:04.020 What? Very odd. Not odd, actually, if you read the Bible, because, you know, the name

00:06:10.040 of Christ does scare demons. You know, it kind of freaks them out. They don't know what

00:06:15.160 to, what to make of it. But the second thing that strikes me is that this guy has a very

00:06:21.940 silly voice. You would expect, I would have expected Jeffrey Epstein, this guy, lots of

00:06:28.660 money, harem of women, some of them underage, but some of them above age, just like women,

00:06:35.320 money, yachts, booze, fancy people, billionaires and statesmen and scientists, all these people

00:06:43.760 all around him. You'd kind of expect him maybe to sound like James Bond or something, this

00:06:47.560 international man of mystery. And yet he sounds like a slightly dodgier Woody Allen, like a more

00:06:54.680 morally suspect Woody Allen. Well, Steve, it's funny you. He sounds like Dr. Fauci.

00:07:02.280 Did you, can you just play me like five seconds of that clip? Can you, am I mistaken to say?

00:07:08.900 Potentially one of the bad things to teach children.

00:07:11.620 Okay. Okay. All right. Pause it right there. So it's more Woody Allen than Dr. Fauci.

00:07:16.060 Potentially one of the bad things, but it's still, it's still got a little bit of that Dr. Fauci,

00:07:21.360 because if you just lower it a little bit, potentially one of the bad things to teach

00:07:26.120 children is that you're good to get nobody to get the bus. So he sounds, look, I guess he's a

00:07:30.380 New Yorker. All right, there you have it. He sounds goofy. The words he says, his responses to questions

00:07:38.360 are kind of goofy. He's not as quick on his feet as you would expect. His voice sounds kind of goofy.

00:07:43.540 And then hold on, let me get back to the first claim he made. He said, we shouldn't teach children

00:07:48.920 to write because the smartest people in history, Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle didn't write.

00:07:55.920 There's just one problem. Plato and Aristotle definitely wrote. They wrote a lot. They sort

00:08:00.660 of famously wrote. Socrates did not write. That's true. Socrates we know of really as a character from

00:08:06.920 Plato's dialogues and he had conversations with people in the city. Plato for sure wrote, he wrote

00:08:14.220 a lot. Aristotle wrote. Some of what we have of his is his notes, like his lecture notes and things that

00:08:21.760 people wrote about him, but they wrote. So he's just wrong on a basic fact about two of the three

00:08:29.120 foundations of Western philosophy, which means Jeffrey Epstein is not that smart.

00:08:38.380 He's kind of goofy. He gets kind of flummoxed. He's not that smart. Now, he obviously had a certain

00:08:44.920 genius, but he's not the global international super genius you might expect, which seems to lend

00:08:53.200 credibility to something more going on behind the scenes. Now, it's worth pointing out, Jeffrey Epstein,

00:08:59.120 ostensibly, is a Wall Streeter. And Wall Streeters are not necessarily that smart.

00:09:06.740 Wall Streeters are very good at making money. That is a specific skill set. It does not imply that you

00:09:12.780 know anything about Plato and Aristotle. It does not imply that you are a particularly deep thinker.

00:09:18.060 It can. There are intelligent Wall Streeters, but it's not a one-to-one. So it could just be

00:09:27.420 that he's kind of a bruiser Wall Streeter. I mean, some of the guys in sales and trading are on the

00:09:32.320 floor of the New York Stock Exchange. They're tough guys. They're the kind of guys you'd,

00:09:35.460 if they weren't working there, they'd be working in a butcher shop in the Bronx or something.

00:09:39.500 So it could be that he's just that guy, or it could be that he's a stand-in for some larger systems.

00:09:47.440 At the very least, I think what we can conclude is he is not in himself some super genius.

00:09:54.900 He's an influence peddler. He gets himself a spot on the Trilateral Commission because he's

00:09:59.360 friends with David Rockefeller. And then he gets a spot on the Council on Foreign Relations. And then

00:10:04.100 he's just moving in these circles with all sorts of people, the Clintons and the Rothschilds and the 0.74

00:10:09.540 Trumps and the everybody, just everybody. And the Musks and Silicon Valley and this and that and this

00:10:16.540 and that. He's just moving with everybody. The Israelis and the Arabs and the Russians and the

00:10:23.440 Americans and just everybody. He's an influence peddler. So this is the question. Who is Jeffrey

00:10:30.840 Epstein? There seem to be four buckets of stuff that we learn from the files that we already knew,

00:10:36.540 by the way, about Jeffrey Epstein. There's the finance bucket. There's the politics bucket.

00:10:45.000 There's the weird sex bucket, obviously. And then there's this last thing. There's the science

00:10:50.480 bucket. Jeffrey Epstein founds an institute, Santa Fe Institute. It's in the Bannon interviews to pick

00:10:59.220 up a bunch of scientists at the end of the Cold War because they had been nuclear scientists working

00:11:04.880 during the Cold War. They were out of work. He wanted to scoop them up. He's palling around with

00:11:08.520 a lot of people from Harvard and MIT. He's very interested in things like string theory. And

00:11:13.280 it's weird. And so the question for people is, how do these things fit in with one another? And who is

00:11:20.660 he? I will go very quickly through the Epstein files that most stood out to me. That includes

00:11:29.080 links to the Russians, to the Arabs, to the Jews, to the Syrians, to the Americans, to the Brits,

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00:14:33.980 about it. Okay. Okay. Let's get to the Epstein files. Here we go. Epstein file from September 11th,

00:14:40.540 2011. From redacted to Jeffrey Epstein. Spoke with Igor. He said, last time you were in Palm Beach,

00:14:48.240 you told him you had an appointment with Putin on September 16th and that he could go ahead and

00:14:53.420 book his ticket to Russia and arrive a few days before you. He also looked into security in Sochi

00:14:59.060 for you. He said, regardless, he will still need to go to Russia tomorrow to sort out his Russian

00:15:03.920 passport, which expires at the end of September. So he will still fly back to New York on the 19th.

00:15:09.820 He'll be happy to go back to Russia with you on September 26th if you go. Okay.

00:15:14.000 How is Jeffrey Epstein getting appointments with Putin? The, at this time, leader of Russia for over

00:15:22.580 10 years. Is he, okay, let's just put this in the column of maybe he was working with the KGB. If

00:15:30.680 he's a super spy, maybe he was working with the Russians. Next one. This is an email from a sultan in 0.66

00:15:38.240 Dubai. Sultan bin Sulayem, a big business leader in Dubai. Dear Jeffrey, I'm attaching some media

00:15:44.080 clipping regarding the Israeli operation in Dubai. I will call you around 7 p.m. Eastern time.

00:15:48.980 What happened doesn't help anyone. This is from Wednesday, September, February 17th, 2010.

00:15:57.340 I don't remember this particular Israeli operation in Dubai. This would seem to imply that Epstein is 0.85

00:16:04.020 either working with the Israelis. He's saying, hey, I want to talk to you about this Israeli operation.

00:16:08.240 Okay, maybe he was working with the Israelis. It might also imply maybe he was working with the

00:16:12.940 Arabs. Why is the sultan reaching out to Epstein? Is Epstein a go-between between the Arabs and the 0.64

00:16:20.480 Israelis? Next one. This is an email from Jeffrey Epstein to blank. He passed away. It says,

00:16:29.280 Robert Maxwell threatened Mossad. And there are all sorts of weird typos and kind of odd formatting

00:16:34.860 errors, maybe just in the way these emails were exported. But Robert Maxwell was the spy,

00:16:41.800 reportedly a double or possibly triple agent for Israel and Russia and maybe the British,

00:16:48.240 who had a big media empire. He was the father of Ghislaine Maxwell, who was the girlfriend and

00:16:53.560 Jeffrey Epstein. And Robert Maxwell died under very suspicious circumstances and got a funeral in

00:16:59.860 Israel. So Robert Maxwell threatened Mossad, writes Jeffrey Epstein. He told them that unless

00:17:05.820 they gave him 400 million pounds to save his crumbling empire, he would expose all he had

00:17:09.500 done for them. In that time, he had free access to Margaret Thatcher's Downing Street, Ronald Reagan's

00:17:13.760 White House, to the Kremlin, and to the corridors of power throughout Europe. Maxwell passed on all the

00:17:17.460 secrets he learned to Mossad in Tel Aviv. In turn, they tolerated his excesses, vanities, and insatiable

00:17:22.760 appetite for a luxurious lifestyle in women. He told his controllers who they should target,

00:17:27.020 how they should do it. He appointed himself as Israel's unofficial ambassador to the Soviet

00:17:32.560 bloc. Okay. So we don't know who this is to. This could insinuate that Epstein had a relationship

00:17:39.660 with Mossad. It could insinuate that he didn't really. Maybe he was not particularly pro-Israel

00:17:45.040 in as much as he's accusing Israel of murdering Robert Maxwell. Robert Maxwell, who had been working

00:17:50.540 with Israel? And I guess the Russians and the Americans and the British. Was he a quadruple 0.94

00:17:58.020 agent? Next one. From Jeffrey Epstein to Joy Ito. Epstein writes, talk today. He says,

00:18:10.300 my schedule's a bit crappy, but I could call from the car. Where will you be? By the way,

00:18:13.680 I'm trying to get a friend out of prison in Syria. You don't happen to have anyone with influence over

00:18:17.500 Assad, do you? And Jeffrey Epstein responds, not for email. This is one of my favorite emails in

00:18:23.220 the entire batch. And actually, there are a number of emails like this. Not for email.

00:18:27.680 All the stuff this guy is emailing about, weird sex stuff, international intrigue between

00:18:36.180 really every sector of the entire globe, scientific secrets. Did I mention weird sex stuff? All the

00:18:45.620 stuff Jeffrey Epstein emails about, joking or not joking, about killing people. And yet,

00:18:53.200 Jeffrey Epstein knows some things are really not to be put in writing, including, do you have

00:18:59.200 influence over Assad? He has influence over Assad? Now, is he working for the Syrians?

00:19:06.620 If Jeffrey Epstein knows that some things are not for email, and his emails are this titillating,

00:19:11.580 what on earth is not in the emails? And what influence did Jeffrey Epstein have over Assad?

00:19:21.440 Okay, now let's try to nail in on which intelligence agencies, if any, he was working for.

00:19:26.980 Here's an email from a guy named Greg Brown to Jeffrey Epstein.

00:19:31.160 Jeffrey, this is from 2011, understood, remember, there are already $80 billion in frozen assets

00:19:36.820 internationally, of which $32 billion are in the US. It's estimated that the real number is somewhere

00:19:41.360 to four times this amount in sovereign stolen misappropriated assets, blah, blah, blah, blah,

00:19:46.120 blah. They're talking about Libya, right during that Libya operation. Look at all this Libyan money 0.98

00:19:52.200 that's up for grabs. Now, here's the key. They're talking about the law firm they've retained.

00:19:58.200 It would be to our advantage to pay them on an hourly basis and initially go after the low-hanging fruit,

00:20:03.200 which would enable us to keep more of the money. I also have friends formally, I don't know if they

00:20:07.800 mean formally, like officially or formerly, because there are a lot of typos in these emails.

00:20:12.480 I also have friends formally with MI6 and Mossad willing to help identify stolen assets and help

00:20:18.160 them get recovered. This is a weird email because the claim that we've been hearing is that Jeffrey

00:20:24.920 Epstein worked with Mossad and maybe with US intelligence and maybe with Russian intelligence

00:20:29.640 intelligence and who knows, maybe with allied intelligence generally. So that would include

00:20:32.640 MI6. So if this guy is emailing Jeffrey Epstein, why would he have to say, well, hey, look, I know

00:20:38.540 some people in Mossad. That would seem to imply that Epstein's not Mossad. Gets even more complicated.

00:20:46.740 Jeffrey Epstein writes a letter to the CIA under the Freedom of Information Act asking for any

00:20:55.760 information the CIA has on him. But Epstein doesn't write the email himself. I got to give a hat tip

00:21:00.720 here to Mike Benz. Mike Benz identified this email among the three million. He writes the letter from

00:21:08.520 his lawyer. So it would not necessarily come out that Jeffrey Epstein had requested this file.

00:21:15.720 And the lawyers say, hey, we want, well, we don't know exactly what the lawyers requested.

00:21:20.740 We do, however, know the CIA's response. And this is very, very interesting.

00:21:25.860 Let's pull up the CIA's response. Do we have it? Okay.

00:21:29.360 Dear Mr. Weinberg, Epstein's lawyer, on July 25th, 2011, the Office of Information Privacy

00:21:34.300 Coordinator received your letter, request providing additional information pertaining to your client,

00:21:39.000 Jeffrey Epstein. Okay. Since you have provided the necessary information, we processed Mr. Epstein's

00:21:45.200 request in accordance with the Freedom of Information Act and the Privacy Act.

00:21:47.940 We searched for CIA-originated responsive records that might reflect an open or otherwise acknowledged

00:21:54.300 agency affiliation existing from November 5th, 1999, the date of our previous acceptance letter,

00:21:59.840 to July 25th, 2011, the date we accepted Mr. Epstein's current request. We were unable to locate any

00:22:05.400 information or records. That phrasing, we searched for CIA-originated responsive records that might

00:22:12.260 reflect an open or otherwise acknowledged agency affiliation between 1999, well, from 1999 to 2011.

00:22:21.340 Okay. Open or acknowledged? Well, we know that a lot of what the CIA does is not open or acknowledged.

00:22:28.540 Why is Jeffrey Epstein requesting this information from the CIA in the first place?

00:22:33.500 If there's just nothing in there, why would he, and what specifically did he request? Did he say,

00:22:41.660 is there any open and acknowledged relationship between you guys and me? They go on. The CIA says,

00:22:48.600 with respect to responsive records that would reveal a classified connection to the CIA,

00:22:52.980 in accordance with section 36A of executive order, blah, blah, blah, as amended, the CIA can neither

00:22:58.540 confirm nor deny the existence or non-existence of records responsive to your request. The fact of

00:23:04.060 the existence or non-existence of requested records is currently improperly classified and is

00:23:08.440 intelligent sources and methods information that is protected from disclosure by this section of the

00:23:13.880 CIA Act of 1949. We can neither confirm nor deny, which is the CIA's response to just about everything.

00:23:23.380 What is this about? Mike Benz made this great, Mike Benz, who's been on this show before,

00:23:28.220 made a great point. He said, you know, the way Jeffrey Epstein is requesting this information

00:23:34.160 is basically the way that CIA personnel request personnel files. Previously, according to some

00:23:43.080 of the Epstein files, he had bragged about having a relationship with the CIA, working with the CIA.

00:23:48.680 However, after that time, he denied it. Why did he deny it? Was he perhaps assured that there was no

00:23:59.080 public relationship documented between Jeffrey Epstein and the CIA? Was he, who was this guy working

00:24:10.760 with? All right. One last thing from the Epstein files that are going viral right now. It's FBI

00:24:15.240 interviews. This has the most salacious suggestions and accusations in it. We'll get to that momentarily

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00:25:41.800 So, the most salacious accusations, rather, that come out of the Epstein files come from FBI

00:25:54.880 interviews. So, the FBI interviewed one person in particular, one or two people in particular.

00:26:03.380 And here are some of the claims. George H.W. Bush raped a baby or something like that. George Bush

00:26:12.320 and Bill Clinton raped someone, I think, at the same time. Epstein and Clinton raped a guy at the

00:26:20.840 same time. There's another one. It was like Bush was raping someone or eating a baby or something

00:26:25.780 while Trump watched or something like that. You say, wow, that's really crazy. And then you get to

00:26:31.240 reports. Oh, sorry. Redacted stated all of the above incidents were, quote, recovered repressed

00:26:38.720 memories until he began therapy sometime in 2016, approximately. Redacted offered no supporting or

00:26:46.780 corroborating evidence or witnesses that could be contacted. Redacted appeared to be emotionally

00:26:52.020 unbalanced and not intoxicated. At this time, it is not recommended that any additional investigative

00:26:57.340 resources be expended concerning Redacted's claim. Okay. Okay. There is a fair bit of this kind of

00:27:04.100 stuff in there. It's like, person who does not appear to have any credibility makes crazy claims,

00:27:11.540 like long after the Epstein scandal breaks. And the FBI is even joking about it in some cases. They say,

00:27:18.020 oh, wow, Bush raped him with Clinton and Trump. And oh, wow, that's amazing. And some people who I

00:27:24.120 think are a little more credulous and fair enough, they recognize that a lot of our global elites are

00:27:28.880 complete degenerates, but they just take all of this at face value. You can't take anything at face

00:27:35.080 value when it comes to the Epstein case. The one thing we know for sure about Epstein is that he was

00:27:40.240 deceitful, that he's morally not quite right, that he slips around. He's a master of disguise.

00:27:50.000 And we know that people make all sorts of crazy accusations. Okay.

00:27:56.360 I want to bring this full circle. What did I say at the top of the show? I said, I've never been

00:28:01.220 more vindicated in my prediction about Epstein. Because what did I say when the Epstein stuff all

00:28:06.900 kicked off again? I said, guys, you are wasting your time. Maybe I should kick myself because I

00:28:11.720 spent a lot of time over the weekend on this. I said, one of two things can be true about Jeffrey

00:28:17.860 Epstein. Either he's exactly who the mainstream tell us he is. He's just an eccentric rich guy

00:28:23.240 who coincidentally was friends with all the influential people in the world. And that's

00:28:26.720 it. That's all. That's all there is to it. Nothing. Oh, and then he killed himself in a prison

00:28:30.880 cell. Oopsie. And then the cameras went out, but they didn't go out, but then they did go out.

00:28:36.140 And actually, never mind. He's just exactly who he says he is. Either that is true

00:28:41.000 or Jeffrey Epstein was something a little bit more than that.

00:28:46.960 But in the first case, let's say he is exactly who the mainstream tell us he is.

00:28:51.660 In that case, we already know everything we're going to know about Jeffrey Epstein.

00:28:56.420 In the case that Jeffrey Epstein is a little bit more than that,

00:29:01.040 I want you to listen to this very carefully. We already know everything we're ever going to learn

00:29:06.340 about Jeffrey Epstein. I know it's a very unpopular observation.

00:29:12.440 I am so vindicated on this. Three million documents just came out.

00:29:16.680 What significant new finding is there in the documents?

00:29:23.240 Oh, there's this titillating story about Bill Gates. Yeah. Oh, really interesting.

00:29:27.460 Well, did you know he was talking to the Arabs? Actually, yes, I did.

00:29:30.820 Did you know he was talking to the Israelis? Yes, I did. Did you know he was talking to

00:29:34.220 American intelligence? I did. Did you know we all knew all of that? We all knew all of that.

00:29:39.540 So there are more titillating examples of this.

00:29:45.700 What significant new finding for the people who come out and say,

00:29:50.220 why don't we talk? Why don't we do something about? Do what? Do what? Do what?

00:29:56.720 What new finding is there? Folks, they passed a law in the early 90s that said they had to release

00:30:02.580 all the Kennedy files. Remember this? John F. Kennedy assassinated in the 1960s and then all

00:30:07.540 the files didn't come out and then they passed a law. He said that the files have to come out and

00:30:11.100 then they blew past the deadline and we still don't have all of the information. The idea that Jeffrey

00:30:17.280 Epstein would have been operating from the 80s or earlier through the mid-2000s before he's arrested

00:30:24.580 on the sex stuff, that he would be operating with all these players in the world and then he'd get

00:30:29.380 arrested. He'd get some sweetheart deal and then he would get arrested again a decade later, more

00:30:36.380 than a decade later. And then all of the files incriminating him and everyone around him would

00:30:40.780 just continue to exist. That is an absurd notion. I'll tell you the one thing, the real concrete

00:30:47.120 thing that people want to know, the one real concrete thing, they want to see what happened in

00:30:52.860 that prison cell. If we could see, conveniently we can, if we could see what happened in that prison

00:30:58.840 cell, that would help to clarify a lot. Did he kill himself? Was he killed? Was he smuggled out of

00:31:08.240 prison? I don't know. What happened in that cell? We don't know. A lot of people think he's probably

00:31:17.760 more than he made himself out to be. We don't know exactly what that is, is he doesn't seem to be that

00:31:24.240 smart. And he, I don't, he seems mobbed. It's not just that he doesn't seem mobbed up with

00:31:30.660 intelligence. He seems mobbed up with all the intelligence, not even just US allied intelligence,

00:31:35.760 like Russian, like everybody. But what did I predict? I said, if he is more than what he says he is,

00:31:45.620 then you already know everything you're ever going to find out about Jeffrey Epstein. Every

00:31:49.560 substantive significant thing. I am right. People are angry that I am right about that,

00:31:55.760 but c'est la vie. Okay, let's move to something. It also involves weird sex stuff, but it's closer to

00:32:02.000 home. A detransitioner just won a $2 million judgment against her doctor for transing her as a kid. 0.97

00:32:12.460 A 22-year-old woman who identified as a boy when she was a teenager won a $2 million decision

00:32:17.440 in New York of all places against doctors who pushed a double mastectomy on her. 1.00

00:32:22.960 This gal goes by Fox Varian, had the surgery when she was just 16, got the approval from a psychologist 0.99

00:32:29.500 and a surgeon, both of whom the jury found liable of medical malpractice.

00:32:35.100 Trans is effectively over. It was a fad. There were some people who tried to cut a middle ground

00:32:47.660 with trans to say, you know, well, you can't trans kids, but you can trans adults because

00:32:53.160 adults can be the opposite sex, but kids can or whatever. I pointed out some years ago that

00:32:58.220 transgenderism is false. And if it's false, it's false for everybody. And so it has to be eradicated 1.00

00:33:02.500 from public life entirely. And I was pilloried and calumniated for it. And, uh, you know, this is

00:33:07.420 like, you know how much I hate to say I told you so, but I'm pleased to see that reality has reasserted

00:33:12.860 itself in the end because it is, it is now a passing fad. How are doctors going to continue to trans 1.00

00:33:20.260 patients, certainly kids, if they're putting themselves at risk of $2 million judgments

00:33:24.580 per patient? It's over. It's a fad. People are going to look back on it. As we said for years,

00:33:31.220 they're going to look back on it. Like we look back on lobotomies and the people who called us

00:33:36.480 immoral, who preened, who calumniated us when we said it was bad to castrate little kids, castrate

00:33:44.280 anybody really. They're going to move on to the next fad, the next deeply immoral fad, but it's over,

00:33:51.980 it's deader than disco. Okay. Speaking of lunacy, Don Lemon has responded to being arrested by

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00:35:25.720 My favorite comment yesterday is from the Drummer's Workshop Norm's Music. Who says orange is the new

00:35:29.500 lemon? I love that. I'm a sucker for a good pun. Don Lemon has responded. Don Lemon says he is never

00:35:40.640 going to give up. He is fighting back and Don Lemon's friends are defending him. They're saying this was an

00:35:46.040 act of journalism. I want to remind you what Don Lemon said as he was committing the crime at the

00:35:52.280 church in Minneapolis. Watch this guy here. Look, he's hugging his kid. And, you know, I've imagined

00:36:00.780 it's uncomfortable and traumatic for the people here. But again, careful, it's very slippery right

00:36:05.660 here. It's uncomfortable and traumatic for the people here. But that's what really, careful,

00:36:09.880 please, really slippery. Not kidding. That's what protesting is about. And so.

00:36:16.480 I imagine it's uncomfortable and traumatic for the people here. It's really slippery. Don't slip,

00:36:23.120 don't slip, don't slip. But that's what protesting is all about. The people there included little kids.

00:36:27.760 Wouldn't matter even if it didn't include kids. But these are congregants. Don Lemon is saying,

00:36:33.160 the mob that I'm actively participating in is going in to traumatize people and is traumatizing people,

00:36:39.120 which is a violation of federal law. It's a violation of the FACE Act. And it's a violation

00:36:45.560 of a U.S. code, 18 U.S. code section 241. Conspiracy against rights. He's in there threatening,

00:36:55.440 oppressing, harassing people, traumatizing. That's what happens when you traumatize people.

00:36:59.580 I went on Chris Cuomo's show the other night. Chris Cuomo is Don Lemon's old buddy from CNN.

00:37:05.080 And I explained this to Chris Cuomo and he didn't have a very good answer for me. That clip's going

00:37:10.560 viral. You can catch that somewhere else. Just before I go on, Chris Cuomo brings on two lawyers,

00:37:15.560 a Democrat and a Republican. A guy who's worked for Trump, a guy who's a Democrat,

00:37:19.540 and he wanted them to duke it out over the Don Lemon case. And he was surprised to hear that the

00:37:26.580 two lawyers were on the same side. They were both against Chris Cuomo because they both realized that

00:37:31.760 Don Lemon had broken the law. I mean, maybe he made some bad decisions. I don't know.

00:37:37.680 I'm rooting for him, but... Hold on. Maybe he made bad decisions.

00:37:40.940 Hold on, Bill. Bill. Maybe he made... Bill and Mark, because I think you guys are closer together

00:37:46.620 than I am to the two of you on this. He may have made a bad decision. He may have made bad choices.

00:37:53.260 And he may have done things that I would not have done and that News Nation would not allow me to do.

00:37:58.960 It doesn't mean he's not a journalist. It doesn't mean he's a participant. It could mean

00:38:04.900 he doesn't know the law. He doesn't understand what the rules are, like when he said to the preacher,

00:38:10.720 but they have a First Amendment right. He might not have known the FACE Act. And he probably doesn't.

00:38:15.600 He's not a lawyer. And he's not, you know, been... Well, but this is a hard way to learn, Bill.

00:38:21.240 You ever heard that?

00:38:21.560 That's what I'm saying. And again, I don't like the...

00:38:24.420 Oh, it's brutal. You know, I said to Chris on his show, I said, look, buddy,

00:38:29.080 it's nice that you want to defend your friend. That's actually laudable. And he got kind of

00:38:33.320 angry with me. He said, don't patronize me. But I meant it. Loyalty is a real virtue.

00:38:38.700 And he clearly wants to defend his friend. But the best defense he can muster of his friend

00:38:42.660 is he didn't know the law. Now, you don't need to go to law school to know. Ignorance of the law

00:38:49.200 is not a valid defense. You can't go chop someone's head off and say,

00:38:53.620 I didn't know it was against the law to commit murder. You can't do 90 in a 25 speed zone and

00:39:00.080 say, oh, I didn't know what the speed limit was. Ignorance of the law is not a defense.

00:39:05.980 The best defense that Chris Cuomo can muster, who's one of the people most inclined to defend

00:39:10.960 Don Lemon, is, well, he broke the law, but he didn't know it. They got him, man. They got him

00:39:16.580 dead to rights. For Cuomo too, this is of a piece because you might recall that during that summer

00:39:22.500 of love, the year of R. Floyd, during those protests, which were violent, which were against

00:39:28.400 the law, Chris Cuomo made the curious claim that protests don't need to be peaceful.

00:39:32.660 Now, too many see the protests as the problem. No, the problem is what forced your fellow citizens

00:39:41.740 to take to the streets, persistent and poisonous inequities and injustice. And please show me

00:39:49.060 where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful.

00:39:52.300 The First Amendment of the Constitution is actually where it says that the people have

00:39:58.340 a right peaceably to assemble, not violently. The right to protest is predicated on the protests

00:40:06.840 being peaceful. It's in the First Amendment. Likewise, Don Lemon cannot claim First Amendment

00:40:13.220 protections for, as a journalist, to go actively participate in, that is, conspire with, serve

00:40:20.120 coffee to, hide details, commit crimes with this mob that violated rights and broke the Face Act,

00:40:26.920 because you can't claim First Amendment protections when you are actively violating the First Amendment

00:40:32.580 rights of others. Okay. Speaking of famous black people, Christopher Nolan is doing a movie about

00:40:37.800 the Odyssey, Homer's epic poem. And he has cast as Helen of Troy, the face that launched a thousand

00:40:46.540 ships, most beautiful woman in the Greek world. He's cast Lupita Nyong'o. Lupita Nyong'o is a very good

00:40:55.440 actress. She doesn't look Greek, let's put it that way. She doesn't look Greek. She doesn't have any of 0.98

00:41:04.620 the features that are traditionally associated with Helen of Troy. So do we have some pictures of

00:41:12.180 artistic depictions of Helen of Troy? Yeah, here we go. Okay. So we've got old frescoes, old Greek

00:41:18.980 vases and urns, all the way up from the centuries before Christ up through the Renaissance. Helen is

00:41:27.000 portrayed as having very, very fair skin, sometimes slightly darker hair, sometimes blonde hair. So

00:41:32.920 it doesn't quite match, does it? Some people are making all sorts of nasty comments about Lupita Nyong'o,

00:41:41.280 who's a perfectly nice looking lady and who is certainly a very good actress. 1.00

00:41:47.500 This does not seem to serve the story, does it?

00:41:53.020 The purpose of casting is the same as the purpose of acting, is the same as the purpose of directing,

00:42:01.260 is the same as the purpose of editing and producing. It's to tell a story.

00:42:05.640 To cast Lupita Nyong'o in that role is to distract away from the story. It's to undermine the story.

00:42:15.360 She's not fit for that part. It would be, who's a good actor? Philip Seymour Hoffman. Philip Seymour

00:42:22.120 Hoffman is probably the greatest actor of my lifetime. He's just absolutely magnificent.

00:42:28.380 It would be a little odd to cast Philip Seymour Hoffman as Malcolm X in the autobiography of

00:42:36.140 Malcolm X, wouldn't it? That'd be a little strange. He's a very good actor, but there are limits.

00:42:40.780 There are limits to what an actor can do. There are limits to this entire world. There was a famous

00:42:46.060 debate within the theater, by the way, on so-called colorblind casting, which is never really colorblind,

00:42:51.860 by the way. They call it colorblind casting when they cast Lupita as Helen of Troy, but they don't call

00:42:56.580 it colorblind casting if they were to cast Philip Seymour Hoffman as Malcolm X. That would be an

00:43:00.600 outrage. It would never happen. It would just simply never happen. So it's not exactly colorblind.

00:43:05.040 It's just casting black people in white roles or Latino people in white roles and not casting

00:43:12.260 white people in any roles. But there was a famous debate on this between Richard Brustein,

00:43:18.820 who ran the American Repertoire Theater, and August Wilson, who's probably the most famous

00:43:25.040 black American playwright, perhaps ever. He wrote Ma Rainey's Black Bottom. He wrote Fences,

00:43:30.060 which was a movie with Denzel Washington some years ago. A good playwright as far as contemporary

00:43:34.400 playwrights go. And Brustein, the white liberal, argued for colorblind casting.

00:43:40.720 Oh yeah, anybody of any race, any background can play any part. And August Wilson, the black guy,

00:43:45.680 or half black guy, said, no, they can't. It's crazy. I don't want white people to play these roles

00:43:52.920 where they're like a garbage collector in the early 20th century in black neighborhoods with 0.99

00:43:57.900 black families. It doesn't read. It takes you out of the story. That isn't true. And there's 0.94

00:44:03.500 obviously some wiggle room here in certain roles because actors pretend, but it is beyond the capacity

00:44:09.260 of certain actors, of all actors, to overcome their natural limits. Very strong. Christopher Nolan's a good

00:44:15.200 director, but one can object to the casting without being offensive and mean-spirited or something.

00:44:24.100 It just doesn't make a lot of it. Someone on Twitter rightly put it, said, this is now the

00:44:31.200 face that launched a thousand quips because people think it's kind of funny. Okay. Speaking of show

00:44:34.600 business before we go, the Grammys took place, apparently. Billie Eilish took the opportunity 0.94

00:44:41.720 on stage to insist that no human being can be illegal in America. And here's why.

00:44:50.460 No one is illegal on stolen land.

00:44:52.760 And yeah, it's just really hard to know what to say and what to do right now. And I just,

00:45:11.280 I feel really hopeful in this room and I feel like we just need to keep fighting and speaking

00:45:17.200 up and protesting and our voices really do matter and the people matter. And yeah, yeah,

00:45:23.680 they really, they really matter. They really matter. They matter. We got to protest, you know,

00:45:30.740 so we'll get Trump to win an even larger share of the popular vote. I just want to get to her

00:45:35.480 argument because I actually love this argument. No one is illegal on stolen land. No one, no one,

00:45:44.600 not any one person. Okay. Now, no one would include us, people who were born in America of all races,

00:45:58.500 specifically white people who are usually the object of antipathy in these kinds of statements.

00:46:02.880 No one is illegal on stolen land. Now, what we must conclude about the land being stolen

00:46:13.860 is that someone committed a crime, that a crime took place. But if no one is illegal on stolen

00:46:22.100 land, then that means the land wasn't stolen. Right? Am I getting something wrong here?

00:46:28.660 If no one is illegal on stolen land, if this is stolen land, then me and my forebears committed a crime.

00:46:35.800 The crime would be stealing the land. But if no one is illegal on stolen land,

00:46:41.420 then the land wasn't stolen. So it's our land. So we can deport the people. I think, right? Doesn't 0.95

00:46:49.520 someone have to be illegal on the stolen land for it to be stolen land? I don't, I don't know. I'm not

00:46:56.560 a philosopher, but I don't think Billie Eilish is either. Much, much more to get to. There's so much

00:47:02.720 more. Ah, I want to tell you about why sending Haitians back to Haiti is a death sentence, 1.00

00:47:08.500 according to Democrat Congress ladies. I want to talk about a Florida IVF company 0.99

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00:47:32.720 What was it like, Merlin, to be alone with God? Is that who you think I was alone with?

00:47:52.500 Meriton, I knew your father. I am yet convinced that he was not of this world.

00:47:57.520 All men know of the great Taliesin. You are my father, that the gods should war for my soul.

00:48:07.960 Princess Garrus, savior of our people.

00:48:13.460 I know what the bull god offered you. I was offered the same.

00:48:18.040 And?

00:48:19.500 There is a new power at work in the world. I've seen it.

00:48:23.640 A god who sacrifices what he loves for us.

00:48:25.840 We are each given only one life, Singer.

00:48:29.140 No.

00:48:30.280 And we're given another.

00:48:34.120 I learnt of Yazoo the Christ. 1.00

00:48:36.420 And I have become his follower.

00:48:38.300 He's waiting on a miracle.

00:48:39.820 And I think you can give him one.

00:48:41.860 Trust in Yazoo. He is the only hope for men like us. 1.00

00:48:46.120 Faith to Britain never rests in the hands of the great light.

00:48:49.060 Great light? Great darkness?

00:48:51.600 Such things mattered to me then.

00:48:53.180 What matters to you now, mistress of lies?

00:48:57.860 You.

00:48:59.400 Nephew.

00:49:02.480 The sword of a high king.

00:49:06.780 How many lives must be lost before you accept the power you were born to wield?

00:49:14.340 So cling to the promises of a god who has abandoned you.

00:49:17.540 I cannot take up that sword again.

00:49:20.620 You know what you must do.

00:49:24.120 Great light, forgive me.

00:49:32.880 The time has come.

00:49:35.000 To be reborn.

00:49:35.920 To be reborn.

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Ep. 1903 - The Three Million NEW Pages Of Epstein Files EXPLAINED

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