The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 2027 - ＂I Plead The Fifth＂： Dr. Fauci Destroyed On Capitol Hill

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00:00:38.080 $500,000 at cardiff.co slash Knowles. Dr. Fauci took a break from writing diary entries about how

00:00:47.740 great he is to testify on Capitol Hill yesterday, where he pled the fifth despite receiving a blanket

00:00:54.220 presidential pardon for his crimes. And now there is, I don't want to overstate it, but there is

00:01:00.940 a teensy tiny little chance that Dr. Fauci might actually spend some time in jail. Then a socialist

00:01:10.500 holds a double digit lead in the Wisconsin Democrat gubernatorial primary. The socialist

00:01:15.340 mayor of New York floats cash reparations for slavery in a city filled mostly with immigrants. 1.00

00:01:21.400 some porn lady convinces the entire internet that she is a political influencer which unfortunately 1.00

00:01:29.380 says a lot more about political influencers than it does about her and a lot more i'm

00:01:33.040 michael knowles this is the michael knowles show

00:01:51.400 Welcome back to the show. Texas Senate candidate, the Democrat nominee James Tallarico says he has

00:02:00.020 learned as much about his faith from Muslims as he has from Christians. Never mind that Muslims 1.00

00:02:07.220 would certainly throw James Tallarico off a rooftop. It really raises even more red flags 1.00

00:02:12.820 in a man who is essentially a giant walking red flag, maybe a rainbow flag too, like a red tinted

00:02:18.800 rainbow flag. We'll get to Tallarico in a second. First, though, we've got to start out with our

00:02:22.980 buddy, Dr. Fauci, who is called to testify on Capitol Hill, a very, very seriously anticipated

00:02:31.120 testimony in this hearing called by Rand Paul. Rand Paul has been one of the great antagonists

00:02:37.140 of Dr. Fauci. So he was going to be asked about all of the contradictions between what he said

00:02:44.000 during COVID, what he said under oath in some cases during COVID, and all of the private

00:02:51.300 diary entries that he was writing, all of the memoranda of conversations he had with the

00:02:56.440 intelligence community also during COVID because Dr. Fauci was lying. He was saying one thing to

00:03:02.000 you and one thing to his diary and to bureaucrats and to spies. So this is not just raking Fauci

00:03:09.800 over the coals because he got COVID wrong. This is specifically holding him to account

00:03:15.660 for the duplicitous things he said. At the very same time during COVID, he was saying one thing

00:03:22.200 out of one side of his mouth, one thing out of another. We remember Dr. Fauci has actually

00:03:26.360 admitted to lying. You remember early on during COVID, Dr. Fauci said there was no need for people

00:03:32.740 to wear masks. At the same time, he was saying people should wear masks. Now, it actually probably

00:03:37.200 didn't matter if anyone was wearing masks. So he was wrong about that, but he was wrong and also

00:03:41.440 lying. He later came out and said, well, yeah, the reason I told the public not to wear masks

00:03:45.640 is I wanted to save the masks for the healthcare workers. So I lied to the public because I didn't

00:03:52.900 want them to go out and buy all the masks because I wanted to save all the masks for the healthcare

00:03:56.460 workers. So even though Fauci was wrong about the masks, it turns out putting a hanky over your face

00:04:01.380 doesn't stop the transmission of a virus. Regardless, he was lying. He knew he was lying.

00:04:07.180 It was an intentional act of deception, and that was the tip of the iceberg. So what did he say

00:04:12.480 in response to these questions? Dr. Fauci pled the fifth. Here is Senator Josh Hawley having a

00:04:19.140 great deal of fun with the shifty-eyed, dishonest-looking Dr. Fauci.

00:04:25.540 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Well, nothing says honesty like taking the fifth, huh, Doc?

00:04:31.380 Let's try something.

00:04:33.520 What day of the week is it today?

00:04:38.960 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:04:46.020 What color tie are you wearing?

00:04:48.900 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution.

00:04:56.080 What color is the carpet in front of you?

00:04:57.500 on the advice of counsel i respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth

00:05:06.340 amendment to the constitution let's just get one thing straight you don't have any rights under

00:05:09.880 the fifth amendment because you've been pardoned as you very well know as the supreme court has

00:05:14.660 been clear for a century and more brown versus walker 1896 when he has been pardoned he may not

00:05:20.720 stand upon his privilege you know that your lawyer is sitting behind you now shifting nervously in

00:05:26.420 their chairs. They know it. This isn't about the Constitution. This isn't about the law. This is

00:05:30.500 about contempt, contempt for this body and contempt for the American people. This is what really

00:05:36.400 separates Hawley. This is what separates the men from the boys. And this separates what Hawley is

00:05:41.540 doing here from the usual circus that we see at congressional and Senate testimony. Fauci comes in

00:05:47.280 and he decides he's going to plead the fifth. The Fifth Amendment gives you a right against

00:05:52.720 self-incrimination. And a lot of people do this, and pleading the fifth does not necessarily imply

00:05:58.580 guilt. There's a reason that we have that right under the Constitution, and plenty of people have

00:06:04.340 pled the fifth for good reasons and justifiable reasons. What's different here with Fauci, though,

00:06:10.560 is that he can't incriminate himself if he tells the truth to the Senate.

00:06:16.840 He's under oath, so he has to tell the truth.

00:06:21.520 If he lies under oath, he could incriminate himself.

00:06:26.040 He could, he could, sorry, I should say, he could commit a crime that is not covered by

00:06:31.480 his blanket pardon.

00:06:32.420 Joe Biden gave him a blanket pardon for any crimes he may or may not have committed over

00:06:36.720 the course of, what was it, 10 years?

00:06:39.160 And this was an unprecedented kind of pardon.

00:06:42.280 Joe Biden issued this to his own son, to other members of his family who were very corrupt,

00:06:46.800 to a bunch of other people. That was unprecedented. The presidential pardon power is immense.

00:06:54.100 And there's not really a check on it. That's how the system was built. However, traditionally in

00:06:59.560 America, you pardon a particular person for a particular crime. Now, Jimmy Carter changed that

00:07:07.740 a little bit. Jimmy Carter pardoned, actually even before Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford pardoned

00:07:14.440 Richard Nixon, but Richard Nixon never acknowledged his own guilt for whatever the

00:07:20.480 kind of overblown crime was of covering up a break-in that he didn't actually know about.

00:07:25.580 Okay, that's where it starts to get a little murky. Then with Jimmy Carter, you have Jimmy

00:07:29.460 Carter pardoning the draft dodgers in Vietnam. So he was not pardoning particular people. He

00:07:35.960 never specified which people exactly he was pardoning, but he was pardoning them for a

00:07:40.180 particular crime. Joe Biden takes this to the most absurd extreme, which is that he's pardoning

00:07:47.300 people without specifying any crimes over a 10-year period. And now it's unclear if Joe Biden

00:07:54.260 even signed those pardons. It might have been an auto pen pardon. The very nature of the pardons

00:07:58.160 is kind of dubious. But nevertheless, nobody is seriously challenging that Dr. Fauci was pardoned

00:08:04.140 for every crime he committed for a long period of time, all the way up to the moment Joe Biden

00:08:07.780 leaves office. However, if Dr. Fauci lies under oath to the Senate in the big two six,

00:08:16.160 that would be another crime. So Dr. Fauci could have gone to the Senate and answered truthfully

00:08:23.140 and said, yeah, okay, you're right. I did contradict myself in my diary. Yeah, I did

00:08:27.200 contradict what I told the public when I was speaking to the CIA or the FBI. Yeah, I did do

00:08:31.720 all of that would have made Fauci look really, really bad, but he would not have incriminated

00:08:34.860 himself because he's covered for all. He would be covered for perjury if it was within that period

00:08:42.620 that Joe Biden pardoned him for. He didn't want to tell the truth. So instead, instead of telling

00:08:50.320 the truth or lying and committing another crime, he pleads the fifth. And Hawley is having a lot

00:08:56.220 of fun with this. And he says, oh yeah, what color is the sky? What color is your tie? What

00:08:59.640 day of the week is it? Fauci pleads the fifth. It starts to get him to sweat, starts to get the

00:09:04.020 lawyers to sweat. And then Hawley drops the hammer. This isn't just a circus to humiliate Fauci.

00:09:09.460 He says, hey, buddy, you don't have a right in this circumstance to plead the fifth.

00:09:15.860 The Supreme Court has already ruled on this 120 years ago, 130 years ago.

00:09:22.320 What you are doing right now is not exercising your constitutional rights. You're expressing

00:09:26.500 contempt of Congress, which means that if the Senate so chooses, they can hold Fauci in contempt

00:09:32.560 of Congress, which is the same thing that Congress did to Steve Bannon when Steve Bannon refused to

00:09:39.300 play ball with them. Steve Bannon went to jail for that. I would not bet that Dr. Fauci is going

00:09:45.300 to go to jail. He'll weasel out of it. He is a masterful bureaucrat. This guy knows how to work

00:09:50.760 the system better than anybody in the country. However, what Hawley has done here is open up at

00:09:57.240 least the tiniest sliver of possibility that Fauci could have committed a crime yesterday,

00:10:02.680 a misdemeanor, and he could go to jail for it. What is the jail time for that?

00:10:08.040 Up to 12 months with a fine of up to $100,000. So Fauci made a lot of money during COVID.

00:10:13.760 He made a lot of money based on his new fame that he wrote about extensively in his diaries.

00:10:20.760 but he could be in at least a little tiny bit of legal hot water.

00:10:26.740 Senator Rand Paul, who's leading the charge on Capitol Hill against Dr. Fauci,

00:10:30.760 he grills him as well.

00:10:33.100 For years, Anthony Fauci has been the public face of saying this in all likelihood came from nature.

00:10:39.400 He kept saying it's the marketplace, it's the marketplace, it's the marketplace.

00:10:42.780 He's been saying that on television up until recently.

00:10:46.640 But what we find is that what he was saying in public is different than what he was saying in private.

00:10:51.300 In January, in private, he wrote that it looks like the wet market was a super spreader event.

00:10:57.940 It didn't originate there.

00:10:59.040 We know that some of the earliest deaths and sickness came from somewhere else.

00:11:03.300 But then for years and years, we got dishonesty.

00:11:06.840 So let's play the video so we can see a little juxtaposition of the problem we were dealing with.

00:11:11.340 wet markets in asia where people bring animals from the forest into uh market there are wet

00:11:18.860 markets in muhan that are ample opportunity for a virus to jump from an animal the origin was

00:11:26.300 you remember all of this during covid it was the wet market wet market bad batch of bad soup

00:11:36.140 don't eat raw pangolin at the same time though he was privately acknowledging

00:11:40.700 the lab leak theory. And he was trying to suppress people who were pushing that, which

00:11:45.480 almost certainly is where the virus came from. So, for the period that is covered by Fauci's

00:11:51.780 pardon, he might have perjured himself twice. One, by saying that he never funded gain-of-function

00:11:57.280 research in Wuhan, which is not true. He personally, using his power over funds at

00:12:05.860 federal government, funded gain-of-function research in Wuhan, the exact kind of viral

00:12:11.940 research that would have led to a lab leak. But Fauci is going to weasel out of that because he

00:12:16.620 narrowed the definition beyond the pale such that he could try to avoid saying that he perjured

00:12:23.020 himself. But then he much more clearly perjured himself later on when he said he didn't talk to

00:12:27.080 the intelligence community. This was in June 3rd of 2024. He said he didn't talk to the intelligence

00:12:31.080 community about these various theories with COVID. And then he tried to walk it back a little bit

00:12:35.940 later in the same testimony. There is a much stronger case. He perjured himself. But the

00:12:39.680 question of whether or not Fauci will face consequences or even go to jail really doesn't

00:12:43.860 hinge on any of that. That's the context of it. He lied. He lied to you many, many times during

00:12:49.080 COVID. But it's what happened yesterday. So I know a lot of people get frustrated with the

00:12:54.140 congressional testimony because you get good clips for the senators and the congressman's

00:12:58.020 reelection campaigns, but usually there aren't any consequences that follow from it. Regardless of

00:13:02.580 what happens, there is at least a chance that there could be a consequence from yesterday's

00:13:06.040 testimony if Fauci is held in contempt. Now, moving on from the grillings on Capitol Hill

00:13:13.000 to the bubbling, budding, radical politicians who are potentially winning races around the country,

00:13:19.200 the leading Democrat candidate for the next governor of Wisconsin is an avowed socialist.

00:13:25.260 Her lead is only growing. We'll get to that momentarily before we get to Mom Donnie and 0.97

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00:15:01.120 governor in Wisconsin. The current governor of Wisconsin, Tony Evers, is a Democrat.

00:15:06.900 There are a bunch of other Democrats running now. New poll from Marquette University Law School

00:15:11.520 shows that Francesca Hong, the socialist candidate for governor of Wisconsin,

00:15:17.120 is in the lead. And she's not just a little bit in the lead. She has a double digit lead. She's

00:15:22.060 in first place at 38% in this Democrat field. Former Lieutenant Governor Mandela Barnes is

00:15:27.720 second place with 16%. So the socialist has more than double the support of the second place person

00:15:34.960 who's the former Lieutenant Governor. Then you got the Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley at

00:15:39.460 7%, all the other candidates had less than 5% support, 34% undecided. What this tells you is

00:15:47.600 that the socialist candidates are running stronger than the ordinary, supposedly non-socialist

00:15:54.740 candidates in the Democrat Party. This is backed up by another poll that came out two or three

00:15:58.300 weeks ago, which showed that the Democrat socialists of America have a greater support

00:16:03.960 among rank-and-file Democrat voters than do Democrat lawmakers in Congress.

00:16:09.080 The socialism is strong with the Democrat Party.

00:16:11.340 And some people are going to quibble over whether we call these candidates

00:16:13.960 socialists or democratic socialists. 0.95

00:16:16.240 That is a ridiculous distinction.

00:16:19.340 The distinctive part of that identity of democratic socialist is the socialist part. 0.64

00:16:26.340 Democratic socialist just means a socialist who wins elections.

00:16:30.540 But the operative part of that moniker, the part that tells you about the moniker, about the candidate's ideology, is just socialist.

00:16:38.080 But they know that the word socialist alone is toxic in America, so they add this adjective before it.

00:16:45.900 Say, oh, it's a democratic socialist.

00:16:48.300 This is how the left always wields language to try to use euphemisms, to try to soften the blow.

00:16:56.520 You see this with the politically correct or something like that.

00:16:59.660 They always use that adverb to weaken, to soften the real heart of the matter.

00:17:05.420 But here, it's socialism.

00:17:06.860 Socialism is rising up in the Democrat Party.

00:17:08.940 And there's a ton of evidence.

00:17:10.180 And you could see this play out with the election of lawmakers.

00:17:12.880 The reason this is happening, I know a lot of people are scratching their heads.

00:17:15.980 They're saying, how could it be that the Democrat Party is embracing socialism overtly?

00:17:20.940 The reason that's happening right now is not some sudden change in the Democrat Party.

00:17:25.820 It's like Ernest Hemingway points out.

00:17:29.660 And the sun also rises, I think.

00:17:32.160 You go bankrupt gradually, then suddenly.

00:17:34.120 This is really a gradual process.

00:17:35.720 The Democrats have been pretty overtly socialist since Obama.

00:17:41.400 You wouldn't say that Bill Clinton was a socialist.

00:17:44.760 He wasn't.

00:17:45.280 And in some ways, he instituted more capitalist reforms and changed his party,

00:17:51.020 much like Tony Blair did in the UK.

00:17:53.460 He was labor, but he was new labor.

00:17:54.900 So he was leaning away from the socialist elements of the left

00:17:57.720 and embracing more of the neoliberal elements, more of the capitalist elements.

00:18:01.500 Same goes for Al Gore. You wouldn't really call Al Gore a socialist. You'd call him a lot of

00:18:05.280 things. I got a lot of adjectives to describe Al Gore, but you wouldn't really call him a

00:18:09.620 socialist. John Kerry, he's not really a socialist. He's sort of like Thurston Howell III. Mostly

00:18:14.380 cares about where to park his yacht off of Martha's Vineyard, but he wasn't a socialist.

00:18:18.340 It's really when you get to Obama that you get the socialism, not just in his economic policies.

00:18:24.020 Obviously, he was very overtly promoting socialist health care, but he also gets to

00:18:31.000 the more spiritual and deeper aspects of socialism, which is envy. It's really about envy.

00:18:36.020 It's really about resentment. It's really about a grievance against one's own country. It speaks

00:18:41.460 to a lack of patriotism, a turn away from love of nation, a love of political community toward

00:18:46.720 a kind of class-based warfare and identification with the class that transcends nations.

00:18:52.620 In any case, that's the beginning of the socialist turn, and you've never really gotten away from it.

00:18:58.140 Hillary went down.

00:18:59.020 Hillary definitely had more socialist tendencies than her husband, but she went down.

00:19:03.960 Joe Biden was not even really the president.

00:19:07.620 That White House was being run by the younger staff, which was much more socialist-leaning.

00:19:12.040 And in 2028, we'll see who the candidate is going to be, but right now the leading candidate is probably AOC, who is a self-identified socialist.

00:19:20.300 And the candidate, even all the way back in 2016, who had a lot of popular support, so much so that the Democratic Party establishment had to smack him down, was Bernie Sanders, also a self-identified socialist.

00:19:30.280 So this has been building for a long, long time.

00:19:32.180 And when you look at most Democrats today, perhaps with the exception of a John Fetterman, previously you would have said a Joe Manchin or a Kyrsten Sinema, but they're both out of politics now.

00:19:42.060 With the exception of John Fetterman, you see basically unanimity on the prominent mainstream

00:19:49.600 left for the Democrats, which is this rise of socialism. So nobody should be surprised by this.

00:19:55.700 This is happening in Wisconsin. It's happening at the national level in polls. It's certainly

00:20:00.220 happening in New York. The mayor of New York is a self-described socialist. And so turning to New

00:20:05.040 York, Mr. Mamdani. Mamdani going viral right now because in an interview with The Root,

00:20:09.560 mom donnie just expressed with some you know trepidation and some conditions and some political

00:20:16.380 weaselly language nevertheless he expressed support for current day reparations for slavery

00:20:24.720 which was abolished uh over 150 years ago if a commission studying reparations in this city

00:20:34.020 recommended cash reparations for people impacted in new york city would you support that

00:20:42.060 recommendation first i want to say that i stand by what i submitted yes it's the truth yes it's

00:20:46.920 not a personal assessment and we often think about slavery and the complicity in slavery as being

00:20:55.400 exclusively to certain geographic areas of the country right here in new york city we were we

00:20:59.720 were very complicit and so i look forward to whatever those findings are i can't give you

00:21:03.440 an answer in advance of them, but I can tell you that this is critically important because

00:21:07.440 this is also what it looks like to acknowledge what history truly was.

00:21:12.860 Critically important to, at the very least, take seriously reparations for slavery. Now,

00:21:20.700 I want to translate. On this show, I often like to translate political language into what it

00:21:26.480 really means, away from the politically correct woke euphemisms that we were just talking about. 0.54

00:21:31.160 reparations for slavery means dimitude for white people. That's what it means. That's actually what

00:21:39.360 they're talking about here. They're saying that we will wield the law to disadvantage white people

00:21:44.600 and to advantage non-white people. That's all it means. It has nothing to do with history.

00:21:51.980 Any historical argument that you hear about this, it is ancillary. It's a little ornament

00:21:57.300 on top of what the subject really is, which is dimitude for white people. We already have legal 0.94

00:22:04.680 punishments for white people simply for being white. That's called affirmative action. You see 0.98

00:22:08.480 this in university admissions and in hiring. But we also have a cultural dimitude for white people 0.61

00:22:15.440 in as much as white people are the only people, it's the only race of people that you are culturally 0.51

00:22:20.600 permitted and even encouraged to insult, to disadvantage. When it comes to the legal

00:22:26.560 discrimination. Asians also fall into that camp too. Legally, you can discriminate against Asians,

00:22:32.920 very famously, infamously in university admissions. That's why there was the Harvard 0.99

00:22:36.280 Supreme Court case about that. But culturally, it's only white people. It is not acceptable.

00:22:41.100 It is not encouraged to discriminate against Asian people, even if the law says that you can. 0.97

00:22:48.360 But in the case of Zohran Mamdani's embrace of slavery reparations,

00:22:52.240 the real nature of the reparations debate becomes so much clearer because

00:22:57.200 two-thirds of New Yorkers are immigrants or the children of immigrants. The vast majority of New

00:23:05.340 Yorkers have no connection to the history of slavery. Slavery was abolished in the mid-19th

00:23:14.600 century. We are in the big two-six. Now, in certain parts of the country, you have a lot

00:23:20.520 of people who trace their roots all the way back to the 19th century, some further back to the

00:23:25.380 18th century or the 17th century, maybe all the way back to the Mayflower, which is a great cigar

00:23:29.840 brand, by the way. But in New York City, you don't really have that. Two-thirds of New Yorkers

00:23:35.620 just got here, just got here. Mom Donnie is an immigrant. What on earth does he know? What 0.99

00:23:42.780 connection does he have to American slavery? None whatsoever. By the way, two-thirds of New Yorkers

00:23:49.360 have, uh, are immigrants or the children of immigrants? What if you go back one extra

00:23:55.260 generation? What if you include immigrants, children of immigrants, or grandchildren of

00:24:00.080 immigrants? That would only take you back to what the fifties, the 1950s. What if you include the

00:24:07.780 fourth generation to take you back to, I don't know, the thirties or the twenties? What if you

00:24:12.140 include the fifth generation to take you back to the turn of the century or the late 19th century? 0.65

00:24:16.340 What if you include the sixth generation of immigrants, which still doesn't take you back

00:24:21.240 to slavery? That's like all New Yorkers. I, you know, I, I talk about it. I was just mentioning 1.00

00:24:28.160 my cigar line, Mayflower cigars based on my family, because despite my swarthy appearance, 0.92

00:24:33.640 I'm roughly the same color as Zoran Mamdani, thanks to the Sicilians. But I do trace some

00:24:37.640 of my lineage back to the Mayflower and to Jamestown. Basically the only time that someone

00:24:43.980 in New York has a connection to the Mayflower or Jamestown is when I go visit New York again. 0.88

00:24:49.080 Okay, it is just, it is truly a city of immigrants or people who came here

00:24:53.720 long after the legacy of slavery. So it has nothing to do with that historical connection.

00:25:00.280 Furthermore, just consider what happens over the course of history, even in principle. 0.76

00:25:06.360 Let's say a guy is half black, half white. Does he owe money for reparations or does he receive 0.87

00:25:13.160 money for reparations. It's very unclear. What if a guy traces his ancestry back to

00:25:19.420 Jefferson Davis and to Harriet Tubman? Does he owe money for reparations? Does he receive

00:25:26.240 money for reparations? Let's go even further than that. Let's not talk about people who are

00:25:30.020 biracial or who have a drop of this blood or that blood. Let's say that you got a guy in New York

00:25:36.080 or California or any of these other places talk about reparations. Let's say that you got a guy

00:25:39.440 who is black as night. We are talking Congo, ebony, and obsidian. Let's say that that guy is 0.99

00:25:47.420 black as can be. There is still a chance that he traces his lineage back to a slaveholder. 0.99

00:25:53.320 And the silliest but illustrative example of this goes back to the first man to be declared

00:26:00.060 an arbitrarily declared slave for life. There were people who were declared slaves for life

00:26:05.800 for crimes as a kind of punishment for some criminal offense. But the first guy to be 0.84

00:26:10.980 declared a slave for life just because, not because he committed a crime, was a guy named

00:26:16.740 John Kayser in Virginia. And do you know who made him a slave? Do you know who was his slave master?

00:26:24.980 A black guy named Anthony Johnson from Angola. So it wasn't, this is one of these ironies of

00:26:31.220 history that the first guy who would be called a slave master in the real sense of that term,

00:26:38.340 not indentured servitude, not owning a man and his property for some crime or offense he's

00:26:44.560 committed, but in the real sense of a slave master, the first real slave master in America

00:26:49.900 was a black guy. So the entire principle of reparations for slavery is absurd. 0.61

00:26:58.040 But the absurdity of it comes out all the more so in New York from an immigrant mayor, 0.98

00:27:04.820 none of which have any connection to the legacy of slavery. 0.99

00:27:08.280 This is just about dimitude for white people. 0.66

00:27:10.640 And that is some real radical stuff.

00:27:12.600 Now, our sponsor, Kalshi, has a bet up here, a question up here for who Times Person of the Year in 2026 will be.

00:27:22.040 And here are the top three people.

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00:27:35.500 That makes us shudder for the state of our politics.

00:27:38.620 Now, speaking of the decayed state of our politics, 1.00

00:27:42.580 there is a lady going viral as the new hit, hot, political influencer. 1.00

00:27:50.900 And a lot of people are pointing out that she looks like a porn lady 1.00

00:27:54.080 because all of her videos, you've probably seen this pop up on your social media feed. 1.00

00:27:59.200 If you haven't, let me know how you arranged your algorithm to avoid it. She's this chick 1.00

00:28:04.000 who is sitting with her cleavage hanging out with her legs spread, her feet up on the chair, 1.00

00:28:10.200 and her legs spread such that she is really leaving very little to the imagination.

00:28:15.000 And people are missing important context on this person. I won't even say her name because I want

00:28:19.720 to promote her business. People are missing real important context. It tells you a lot

00:28:23.940 about our political class. First though, folks, on the most recent episode of Joe Rogan,

00:28:30.380 Joe mentioned that he invited this guest on because of a wild interview about the Kandahar

00:28:36.380 giants of Afghanistan. That guest was Tim Albarino. And the interview that Joe was talking about was

00:28:42.460 our episode of Michael And, the rogue archaeologist. In this episode, we explore the viral testimony

00:28:47.360 that sparked the legend of the Kandahar giants, along with Tim's firsthand expedition deep into

00:28:51.960 the Peruvian Amazon to investigate the mysterious face peelers of Peru. Check out this teaser.

00:29:00.220 There was a team of soldiers who were deployed out there. They thought that the villagers were

00:29:05.220 aiding and abetting the Taliban. But instead of encountering the Taliban, what they found was this

00:29:10.300 enormous giant. The giant killed the first team. And so they deployed a second team to go and find

00:29:15.840 the first team because they were missing. They found the giant eating on some of the guys from

00:29:20.140 the first team, but they were able to take him down.

00:29:22.980 Now, this is where things get a little confusing.

00:29:25.060 This is where things get confusing.

00:29:26.140 This is where things get confusing because you'll

00:29:27.860 recall that when the Podesta emails came out,

00:29:30.320 that there was a very curious email from Hillary Clinton

00:29:32.940 inquiring about the body of Gilgamesh.

00:29:35.200 What is the interest of the government in covering this up?

00:29:39.040 There's a cult interest here.

00:29:40.840 And that shouldn't be taken lightly.

00:29:42.280 The practitioners of the cult are just

00:29:44.080 as committed to what they do as you

00:29:46.220 are to your Catholic faith.

00:29:47.580 Now, you and I have talked about all kinds of stuff.

00:29:49.320 I've talked about aliens and UFOs.

00:29:50.840 Nothing we've discussed has made me nervous so far.

00:29:53.480 Why this?

00:30:05.860 Watch a full episode right now on the Michael Knowles YouTube channel

00:30:08.060 for the uncensored ad-free version.

00:30:10.080 Subscribe to Daily Wire Plus. 0.99

00:30:13.720 There is some chicky going viral on social media 1.00

00:30:17.500 as the new political influencer. And the reason you would have seen her is not because of her 1.00

00:30:24.180 organic content. Probably the reason you would have seen or the reason I saw her is because of

00:30:28.040 all the people complaining about her because her content is very, very vulgar. I'm not even going

00:30:33.740 to play one of the clips. I'm going to censor out a fair bit of it. But she's sitting there on this

00:30:37.360 chair, feet up on the chair, legs spread, cleavage out, and she's manspreading, but she's a lady.

00:30:46.480 so it's very odd. And she's sitting in front of an American flag with a microphone in front of 1.00

00:30:50.380 her. It looks like every right-wing podcast studio, except that the girl is sitting in an 0.89

00:30:57.480 obscene way. Now, I've seen this clip pop up a billion times with all the people complaining 1.00

00:31:03.140 about it. I could not tell you a single thing she said, which actually gives us a lot of insight

00:31:11.020 into why our framers crafted the First Amendment to outlaw obscenity. But nevertheless, all these

00:31:17.320 people are complaining about this chick. Can you believe Con Inc. and the Republican establishment

00:31:22.260 is what absolute detritus that they're now just playing? It's basically pornography. 0.99

00:31:29.180 And the point that a lot of people are missing about this girl is, as far as I can tell, 0.98

00:31:33.920 she just is a porn actress. She isn't a political commentator. They're misunderstanding this. 0.80

00:31:40.840 she's just a porn actress. She's like an OnlyFans girl. And one of her performances, 1.00

00:31:47.940 one of the roles that she is playing is as a political influencer. In part, perhaps to rile

00:31:55.880 up the right-wingers, but I think in part because that is our culture now. Political influencers

00:32:03.440 have grown enormously in prominence. That's a lot of the content we watch. Back in the 90s,

00:32:09.520 people turned on TV and watched Friends or Frasier. Now, people don't watch as much TV.

00:32:14.660 They just scroll on their phones, and they watch political influencers. Maybe they listen to

00:32:18.840 political podcasts. Podcasts at this point are like listening to the gramophone. They seem almost

00:32:23.340 outdated and traditional compared to where a lot of the political content is, which is just these

00:32:27.460 influencers making 60-second reels, increasingly provocative, increasingly vulgar, and increasingly

00:32:35.060 obscene. A lot of the female influencers are, they're not just looking nice while they give 1.00

00:32:42.020 you a political message. The looking nice, the kind of sultry and visual part of it is like 90% 1.00

00:32:48.600 and the politics is just added on top. For a comparison, this lady is playing a political 1.00

00:32:55.480 influencer to do her porn in the same way that like a 70s porno would have featured a lady playing 1.00

00:33:01.860 a nurse or something. But the nurse now is a political influencer. And think about this. 1.00

00:33:09.680 I mean, in a way, good for her. It's not actually good for her. It's bad for her and everybody else

00:33:13.480 that she's doing porn and OnlyFans should be extinguished. And we should pass serious laws 1.00

00:33:20.160 curtailing obscenity. And obscenity is not protected by the First Amendment. Obscenity

00:33:23.920 is not protected by the First Amendment, as I just mentioned, because it undermines speech.

00:33:30.120 The reason that fraud and fighting words and obscenity and things like that are not protected

00:33:35.000 by the First Amendment is because they are things that resemble speech that actually undermine

00:33:39.560 speech. And the point of the First Amendment is to encourage speech. But the reason fraud,

00:33:43.480 for instance, is not protected is because you don't protect lies. If lies are protected by the

00:33:49.760 law, then you can't trust what anybody says, and so you've actually undermined speech.

00:33:54.400 If obscenity is protected by the law, obscenity appeals to the prurient interest. Nobody's

00:33:59.500 listening to the speech because you're appealing to the most bestial animalistic parts of a human

00:34:03.560 person. So it's something that resembles speech that actually undermines speech. And so nobody

00:34:07.620 knows what this chick has actually said. But the fact that you can't tell the difference,

00:34:13.660 that to me is the real value of this performance. An unwitting and accidental value of this

00:34:19.200 performance, but that's the value. It tells you that a lot of the actual political commentators

00:34:25.120 are offering you porn. Consider what a lot of the podcasts and the influencers,

00:34:30.680 what they're actually providing to you. In many cases, it's chicks just showing off a little too 0.99

00:34:36.880 much skin. And even whether it's a woman or a man, what are they actually offering you? Are 1.00

00:34:41.860 they offering you insight into political matters? Are they engaging you in the civic project? Are

00:34:46.840 they making you think differently about philosophy and culture and religion? Or are they just dealing

00:34:52.980 in gossip, and detraction, and slander, and wrath, and obscenity, and like lust, and sex, 0.96

00:35:03.260 and stuff. It's not limited to lust, and sex. It's all of these other vices, and all of these 0.97

00:35:08.820 sins as well. In other words, the fact that this chick has gone viral, and nobody can tell the 0.99

00:35:14.440 difference, and nobody can realize that she's actually just a porn actress who's playing a

00:35:19.000 role here, tells you something brutal about our political order, which is that our political

00:35:24.160 order right now, at least our political media, our political influencers, are essentially doing 0.59

00:35:29.960 porn. The ones who are getting the most views are essentially doing some kind of porn, whether

00:35:34.280 it's literal sexual porn or whether it's some other kind of vice that in any case undermines

00:35:40.820 speech and civil society. Not good, not good. What she's doing is not good and she should cut

00:35:46.220 it out, and we should pass laws to make her cut it out. But she's not the biggest problem here. 1.00

00:35:53.000 The biggest problem is all of the other political influencers and commentators and pundits and even

00:35:59.160 politicians who are doing porn and who are being even less honest about it. Okay. Speaking of

00:36:04.600 politics and immorality, I do want to get to James Tallarico, who is embracing his inner Muslim. 0.59

00:36:09.580 First, though, my favorite comment yesterday is from Lily Elise, who says, Michael, 0.98

00:36:14.580 my boyfriend said that he found your takes annoying and incorrect needless to say he's

00:36:21.220 not my boyfriend anymore that is my newest dating standard member i also posted this to spotify

00:36:28.340 because you mention often how spotify is the best comment so naturally i came here you

00:36:31.500 lily elise i have my wife is sweet lil alisa lily elise there's a nomenest omen because i can tell

00:36:41.280 you have a good head on your shoulders you made the good choice you dodged a bullet here with 0.90

00:36:46.040 that loser whatever that bum that that pimp ruffian who you were unfortunately dating but you 0.99

00:36:54.200 you dodged a bullet you had a good head on your shoulders and let this be a lesson 0.99

00:36:58.480 to all the men out there you better get on on the team okay you better figure things out 0.99

00:37:04.980 you better not be a um what were we calling them five or six years ago a soy boy beta cock you 0.99

00:37:11.140 You need to act like a man. 0.99

00:37:14.180 You got to get your ideas and your behavior in order 1.00

00:37:16.120 because all the best women out there, 1.00

00:37:18.600 all the women that you really want,

00:37:20.520 the really good-looking, smart, thoughtful,

00:37:24.680 serious women that you want to spend a life with, 0.94

00:37:27.620 this is going to be the test now, okay? 1.00

00:37:31.140 We're not going to, you got to get on the team.

00:37:33.740 You got to subscribe to The Michael Knowles Show, all right?

00:37:36.320 It's a warning.

00:37:37.200 That's a warning.

00:37:37.840 Good job.

00:37:38.660 Good job, Lily Elise.

00:37:41.140 So before we get, I have a special guest coming on in just a moment. Before we get to that,

00:37:46.660 though, James Tallarico. James Tallarico, just the gift that keeps on giving Senate

00:37:51.580 Democrat nominee in Texas. He says he's Christian. They're running him because he looks

00:37:57.780 vaguely like a straight white guy who's Christian. He looks vaguely normal at a time

00:38:03.440 when all the Democrat candidates are these socialist Ugandan Muslims trying to take all 1.00

00:38:08.240 of your money and abolish prisons and open the borders and where they're just so overtly radical 0.65

00:38:12.460 that they're trying to run a guy who seems like a normal white guy Christian. But whenever he

00:38:17.540 talks about Christianity, he says, he said he hates Christianity. He said that God is non-binary.

00:38:25.540 He very, very sacrilegiously, you invoked the Blessed Virgin Mary to promote abortion. I mean,

00:38:32.480 this guy is a dark guy. Well, anyway, the latest hit from him, thanks to RNC Research,

00:38:37.340 is that he's learned more about his faith from Muslims than from Christians. 0.69

00:38:41.640 I know personally that I've learned as much about my faith from Salman's tradition,

00:38:49.840 from the Islamic mystics, from poets like Rumi,

00:38:54.920 as much as I have from Christian authors and Christian writers.

00:38:59.700 He's learned more about his faith from Muslims than he has from Christian writers.

00:39:03.180 He's learned more about his faith, whatever that is, from Saeed Qutb than he has from St. Paul.

00:39:10.700 That's a curious statement to make.

00:39:14.380 It'd be one thing.

00:39:15.440 I'm trying to be as charitable and not strongman the guy.

00:39:17.780 It'd be one thing to say you've learned something about your faith through the encounter of other writings.

00:39:24.880 I guess that's true. 0.66

00:39:26.320 I have learned something about Christianity by reading about Islam, by reading the Quran,

00:39:35.460 by reading about other Islamic writers, medieval Islamic writers. I've learned about Christianity

00:39:41.340 by reading parts of the Talmud. That's very interesting. By reading Jewish writers and

00:39:47.260 even by reading non-theistic writers, by reading about the Oriental religions. I have learned

00:39:53.460 something about Christianity from that, whether by continuity or by contrast, by reading the pagan

00:39:59.820 philosophers, certainly, Aristotle and Plato. But to say you've learned as much, well, that's

00:40:06.460 impossible. That cannot be the case. If you are really Christian and you believe Christianity

00:40:11.800 is true, Christianity, which is a religion famously that makes exclusive claims, will not

00:40:17.240 allow Christ to be put up in the pantheon of the pagan gods, one among many. No, no, no. Our God is

00:40:22.080 a jealous God. He is the way, the truth, and the life. There's one way to the Father, and it's

00:40:25.940 through the Son. If you really believe that, then it is not possible to say you have learned as much

00:40:32.100 about your faith from Saeed Qutip as you have from St. Paul, or St. James, or St. Peter, or Luke,

00:40:38.220 or Matthew, Mark, John. It's not possible, which is just another reminder, not that we need one.

00:40:45.580 James Tallarico is not a Christian in any meaningful sense, at all. And in many ways,

00:40:52.160 he is much more anti-Christian. You couldn't possibly say you have learned as much about

00:40:59.160 Christianity from Muslim writers as you have from Christian writers. That's an illogical statement.

00:41:04.140 You could, however, say, though, that Azoran Mamdani is closer to Christianity than James

00:41:12.140 Tallarico. You could say that a Jew or a Muslim is closer to Christianity than James Tallarico

00:41:16.960 because James Tallarico's entire religious project based on his public statements is an overt 0.67

00:41:23.860 hostility and undermining of Christianity in a way that a Jew might say, well, look, I don't

00:41:29.320 believe Christianity, but I'm not, my whole project isn't to destroy or disprove or pervert

00:41:34.600 Christianity. A Muslim would say the same thing, could say the same thing. James Tallarico, not so.

00:41:39.660 James Tallarico is the least Christian candidate

00:41:41.440 running for office right now in the country.

00:41:42.980 Okay, now speaking of our political order,

00:41:45.140 where we're at, what the future looks like,

00:41:46.940 I am speaking to a man who's kind of a crystal ball.

00:41:48.700 He actually has been prescient

00:41:49.700 on a lot of important political issues

00:41:52.100 going all the way back to what, 2010, 2011?

00:41:54.780 That would be my friend, Glenn Beck.

00:41:58.240 I am now very pleased to be joined by my friend,

00:42:02.400 a man who needs no introduction, the inimitable-

00:42:05.600 So don't introduce me. 0.98

00:42:06.780 I'm not gonna introduce him.

00:42:08.240 Don't do it, okay.

00:42:09.280 Garth Brooks.

00:42:10.740 No, actually, Glenn, I have to tell you,

00:42:12.900 I was just with Father Dan Rehill,

00:42:16.940 who's an exorcist in Nashville,

00:42:18.700 and he's a great sort of communicator,

00:42:22.100 and he's got a show,

00:42:23.440 and he's a great media apologist as well.

00:42:26.260 But he kind of looks like you.

00:42:27.980 And so, I don't know.

00:42:29.500 It's you, Garth Brooks, and Father Rehill

00:42:31.820 are all kind of in my mind.

00:42:34.280 We're one person.

00:42:35.340 Have you ever seen us at a party at the same time?

00:42:37.020 I know, I haven't.

00:42:37.800 I haven't.

00:42:38.300 Good point.

00:42:38.800 By the way, did you see the story, I don't remember who reported it, that Tucker Carlson

00:42:44.980 went to the, was talking to somebody who wanted to do an exorcism on it?

00:42:50.480 Yeah, was this Rod Dreher or, I think it was Rod or Mark Meckler, somebody was saying this.

00:42:56.640 Yeah, I didn't talk, that's who it was.

00:42:58.400 And I don't know the credibility behind it, but I just, I didn't know if you had heard

00:43:02.980 anything because he said it felt a little like witchcraft.

00:43:05.140 And I'm like, exorcism is really pretty clear.

00:43:09.460 Yeah, it's in the Bible, actually, you know, like Jesus does it.

00:43:13.380 And yeah, yeah, I know.

00:43:14.400 I'm very pro.

00:43:18.180 If someone's offering you an exorcist, just, you know, just to be safe.

00:43:21.860 Just take it.

00:43:23.680 There's no harm, no foul.

00:43:25.220 Yeah, go ahead.

00:43:26.040 No, I actually, on this point, I did.

00:43:28.740 So I want to get to your new book or a slightly older book with this new,

00:43:32.840 amazing audiobook production, Chasing Ember. Thank you. Before we get to that, I want to pick

00:43:38.340 your brain on not just the conservative media, but like the conservative landscape looking ahead

00:43:42.860 past midterms, 2028, because you kind of invented conservative new media and you don't really get

00:43:49.520 credit for it. But sometimes we get credit at Daily Wire. You beat us by like four years or

00:43:54.600 something or more. I mean, you really were the pioneer of this. So you saw the future of where

00:43:59.740 the right was going. Possibly tens of millions of dollars to be that early. It was a mistake,

00:44:04.120 Michael. You might have wished you were a little later, actually, to the idea. Yes, yes. But the

00:44:08.920 idea, eventually the time for the idea came. And so looking ahead to 2028, there's this whole horse

00:44:15.180 race that seems to be playing out in the conservative media between Vance and Rubio.

00:44:20.240 I think it's all kind of made up, but Vance, Rubio, there was some poll that came out.

00:44:24.960 DeSantis showed up in the poll.

00:44:27.540 Ted Cruz showed up in the poll.

00:44:29.540 Rand Paul might run.

00:44:30.980 There's all this debate between the neoconservative faction, the populist faction, the libertarian

00:44:36.080 faction, you know, plus such change, plus say la meme shows.

00:44:39.360 What is your just 30,000 foot view of the state of conservatism looking ahead into 2028?

00:44:49.640 There's a couple of things.

00:44:51.140 First of all, if you want to talk about the state of podcasting and the state of the media, I think it's all going to change.

00:45:00.320 Again, I have the same feeling I did in 2010 when I'm like, television is over.

00:45:07.220 It's time to move to the internet and do live podcasting on the internet, which hadn't been done as a network.

00:45:14.740 And I have the same feeling.

00:45:16.240 I don't know when it's coming, but it's coming and it's going to be a dramatic change.

00:45:19.300 And I haven't pinned it down yet, but I have that same feeling about it.

00:45:22.680 This is all going to change.

00:45:25.140 So stay tuned because I don't know what that means.

00:45:27.240 But when I figure it out, I'll tell you because I'd like you on that boat.

00:45:31.900 But I certainly want to be on that boat.

00:45:34.560 No, I feel that.

00:45:37.220 Again, I can't quite articulate it, but I feel it.

00:45:41.980 You know, when you have the kind of old.

00:45:45.140 Go ahead.

00:45:45.800 I'm sorry to interrupt you.

00:45:46.620 When you have the kind of older voices and figures starting to say like, you know, we've got to get into this podcasting.

00:45:53.840 That's how you know it's over.

00:45:55.600 And there's something new is happening.

00:45:56.880 I don't know.

00:45:57.200 I don't know what the new thing is.

00:45:58.460 I agree with you on that.

00:45:59.400 But yes.

00:45:59.860 So I think it is.

00:46:01.080 I think it is.

00:46:02.220 It's my feeling is. 0.99

00:46:05.680 You know, ass and elbows and opinions. 0.99

00:46:08.820 Everybody has it. 0.97

00:46:10.600 And I think that that's over.

00:46:13.640 I mean, I'm tired of the clickbait.

00:46:15.880 I'm tired of all of the opinions.

00:46:18.320 I'm looking more for facts and depth.

00:46:22.480 Yeah.

00:46:22.780 You provide a lot of that.

00:46:24.600 When you're going much deeper than what everybody else is doing,

00:46:29.120 I don't need anybody's hot take anymore.

00:46:31.100 I don't care about anybody's hot take.

00:46:32.760 The reactions.

00:46:33.800 Yeah, I totally agree.

00:46:35.040 Correct.

00:46:35.840 And so we're in this place to where something is coming,

00:46:39.600 but it's authentic, it's real, it's deep.

00:46:43.560 Yeah.

00:46:43.780 And it's not playing the games of, you know, game, not the honest question of what's coming in 2028, but the game of what's coming in 2028.

00:46:54.760 Does that make sense to you?

00:46:55.680 Yeah, no, it does.

00:46:56.380 That actually relates perfectly to the point on the presidential race or some candidates or whatever, which is, is it, it does seem like there's something happening in the political media that is entirely disconnected from the actual political order.

00:47:09.760 And so, yeah, you're not getting depth, you're not getting insight.

00:47:12.560 I think, though, that the entire political system is disconnected on all sides.

00:47:18.640 Yeah.

00:47:19.100 You know, the only ones that really have a clue, but they're lying to you, is the socialists.

00:47:27.000 Yeah.

00:47:27.580 The socialists are talking about where people are living right now.

00:47:32.180 You don't know what's going on.

00:47:33.980 It seems completely unfair.

00:47:36.060 The system is broken.

00:47:37.400 I can't afford my bills.

00:47:38.800 And no one in the Democrats or the Republicans are actually addressing that.

00:47:44.880 Donald Trump is, you know, he fixed the leak.

00:47:48.680 He fixed the pipe in 2016.

00:47:51.320 But he fixed it with tape because he had to fix it quickly.

00:47:55.380 He thought he had another term.

00:47:57.380 He's not fixing the pipe with tape this time.

00:47:59.940 He's re-plumbing the entire house.

00:48:02.080 And so it's like, you know, it's that moment in the money pit where they buy this house and it's

00:48:09.640 great. This is, we are the one, the house is Donald Trump. We're the ones who bought this

00:48:13.580 house and it's great. It's going to be great. It's going to be beautiful. I can't believe we

00:48:16.340 got it. It's finally our dream house. And then it's a money pit and nothing is being fixed.

00:48:21.020 And you're spending all this time. You're like, they're never going to fix it. Why aren't they

00:48:24.700 fixing it. And they get a divorce or they're headed for divorce right when it's finished. 1.00

00:48:32.000 That's the situation we're in. Everybody's giving up because they're like, what is he doing? I don't

00:48:37.940 have a house. They keep making promises, but I don't have it. He's fixing it. He's fixing the

00:48:43.260 house, but he's doing all the things you don't want to do that will make your life miserable

00:48:48.100 for a while. That's a conversation that he's not having with the American people.

00:48:53.580 he's completely redoing the house and he's doing it because he knows if i don't do that

00:49:00.760 whatever fix i make through executive order it will be changed the minute i leave so i have to

00:49:07.880 fix the structure of everything i have to re-plumb i have to re-electrify the house and then i have

00:49:14.140 to re-point the foundations so he's doing all of this which he won't get credit for until he's gone

00:49:20.580 i think um right and that's when people realize oh crap he's just redesigned the entire world

00:49:28.080 without the economic forum that's what i mean it's a great point including on the threat that

00:49:35.460 we're all going to get divorced before the house is fixed and you say no guys stop it wait just

00:49:40.900 wait one second you know because nobody everybody is playing the short game yeah and everybody is

00:49:47.460 also playing for their own team. I want Vance. I want Rubio. I want the person that understands

00:49:54.480 what he's doing. I'm not saying he's doing everything perfectly, but what he's doing,

00:49:59.240 he is truly putting America first and he's doing really hard things that nobody,

00:50:05.200 why are we in Iran? We're in Iran because of nuclear weapons. Yes. But we're also in Iran 0.87

00:50:11.120 right now for the pipelines that they wouldn't build without a crisis. We're taking away the 1.00

00:50:17.580 choke points and we're controlling the choke points over against our enemies in China and

00:50:23.760 in the Middle East. We're taking control or neutralizing the choke points here and over

00:50:31.640 there. I had dinner with the prime minister of the Czech Republic. I was over there a few months

00:50:37.660 ago. And it's clear they know exactly. I said, what is Donald Trump doing? Do you suppose? I

00:50:43.460 knew what I thought he was doing. He thought the same thing. He said, he's repositioning the entire

00:50:50.100 world. All of the power will be in North America and in your hemisphere. That's exactly what he's

00:50:56.860 doing. Okay. They know it. That's why he's not real popular with a lot of people. Right. But we

00:51:03.200 have to get off of the team of, I don't care who does it. Do you understand we cannot go back

00:51:11.080 to playing political games back and forth? In some ways, the political games with Donald Trump

00:51:18.160 work to his advantage because it's, yeah, look, I just said this over here. I just said this over

00:51:24.020 here. And this hand over here is doing something entirely different. If they were talking about

00:51:29.580 how he's restructuring

00:51:30.740 the whole world,

00:51:31.680 he wouldn't be able to do it.

00:51:33.160 Right, yeah. 1.00

00:51:33.720 You're talking about garbage. 0.98

00:51:35.020 There is, like, 0.98

00:51:36.200 sort of necessarily

00:51:37.140 selling the war in Iran,

00:51:39.380 whether you support

00:51:40.020 the war in Iran

00:51:40.460 or oppose the war in Iran,

00:51:41.340 necessarily you're not

00:51:42.240 going to be talking

00:51:42.720 about China.

00:51:43.460 You're not going to be

00:51:43.940 talking about Russia.

00:51:45.180 You're not going to be

00:51:45.740 talking about grand strategy

00:51:47.600 and...

00:51:48.400 Choke points. 0.93

00:51:49.200 Choke points and revanchism

00:51:51.240 in the Western Hemisphere.

00:51:52.060 Yes, yeah, yeah.

00:51:53.060 And it's a great...

00:51:55.140 The point on structural changes

00:51:57.740 is the key

00:51:58.240 because it's also why

00:51:59.140 the socialists are really speaking to the moment right now, at least to a lot of people, is they

00:52:03.960 are speaking about structural issues in a pretty tangible way, whereas the Republicans and the

00:52:09.020 Democrats flop on it. Right. They're talking about structural issues that affect people at the

00:52:15.760 kitchen table. What Donald Trump is doing is structural issues that will affect you at the

00:52:21.500 kitchen table in five years. Yeah, right. There's a huge difference. And one is an actual structural

00:52:28.680 difference that sets america up for decades of winning and the other one is a quick we're going

00:52:36.540 to take care of your pain and then it gets really ugly yeah right right of course okay that really

00:52:42.100 really good point and regardless when you're dealing with when you're dealing with structural

00:52:46.060 changes what that means is you're in you're in a new era you're you're you're playing a new game

00:52:50.140 whether you're talking about the media or whether you're talking about the actual elected officials

00:52:52.740 i know i said we're going to talk about your book uh but of course typically i could talk to you for

00:52:57.180 about three hours. Before I let you go, one, people need to go get Chasing Embers, this new

00:53:03.280 huge theatrical audiobook production. It should have been utopia, but instead it was madness.

00:53:13.280 It was blackout. And distrust. It was cheating and lying. It was rioting and paranoia.

00:53:23.540 America was dead 1.00

00:53:25.860 And Tobos killed it 1.00

00:53:27.600 This is where our story begins

00:53:30.640 On a death-defying search for the truth about their past

00:53:34.660 Two teenagers find themselves on the wrong side of the most powerful corporation

00:53:39.560 The world has ever seen

00:53:42.460 They have one chance to start a new life

00:53:46.360 But it may cost them

00:53:48.440 Everything

00:53:50.300 In, I don't know, like seven microseconds, Glenn, how would you sum up the project?

00:53:58.080 It is a way to teach yourself and our children the importance of history in a fun and dramatic way.

00:54:04.620 It is a utopian, or I'm sorry, a dystopian action film, really.

00:54:12.280 And it is based on America.

00:54:14.500 My idea that I had, America is over, been over for 80 years.

00:54:18.680 and now they're trying to piece together, what were we?

00:54:21.280 Because all books have been destroyed.

00:54:22.520 All knowledge have been destroyed.

00:54:24.200 Everything is under deep, deep authoritarian control.

00:54:27.220 And it's these kids and their parents,

00:54:29.700 as those parents die off,

00:54:31.980 that are trying to refigure everything.

00:54:35.580 What's true, what's not true.

00:54:37.120 And so it's really a search for the truth

00:54:38.940 and search for our history.

00:54:39.960 And hopefully it'll be something that you

00:54:42.680 and your kids will go, wait a minute,

00:54:44.480 who is this person they're even talking about in history?

00:54:47.320 We're taking and trying to make it a fun,

00:54:49.400 almost a game of hide and seek in a way

00:54:54.640 where you are going to want to say,

00:54:57.100 wait a minute, wait, wait, wait,

00:54:58.220 put the book down for a second.

00:54:59.200 Who is this they're talking about?

00:55:00.660 What was that event in history

00:55:02.080 to try to get people to look into our history a little bit?

00:55:05.740 And now where do they get it?

00:55:08.640 You can get it at Audible, Amazon.

00:55:11.520 So just every, all the big audio book sites,

00:55:14.300 use your credits.

00:55:15.040 I always stack

00:55:15.860 I rack my credits up

00:55:17.080 I have like a dozen credits

00:55:18.660 at any given time

00:55:19.400 I don't read quickly enough

00:55:20.840 so this is a great use

00:55:21.960 for that credit

00:55:22.440 the book is Chasing Embers

00:55:24.040 the man is Glenn Beck

00:55:25.580 a visionary

00:55:26.720 who sees the future

00:55:27.840 and hopefully

00:55:28.920 will not lose

00:55:29.600 tens of millions of dollars

00:55:30.580 by being too early

00:55:31.680 to a good idea

00:55:32.420 this time

00:55:33.260 whether we're talking

00:55:33.760 about the book

00:55:34.240 or whatever comes next

00:55:35.580 Glenn always good to see you sir

00:55:37.020 God bless you

00:55:37.740 Michael God bless you

00:55:38.940 thank you for all

00:55:39.520 everything you do

00:55:40.500 God bless

00:55:40.840 bye bye

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