The Michael Knowles Show - August 13, 2026


Ep. 2037 - New Charlie Kirk Murder Trial Filing Is Damning For Tyler Robinson

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00:00:25 Tyler Robinson. We will examine what the defense did say and did not say. Then, speaking of murder
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00:03:02 Before we get to the filing in the Tyler Robinson case,
00:03:06 before we get to the Lindsay Clancy case,
00:03:08 which I don't think I've talked about on this show yet at all until now,
00:03:11 differently sad news coming out of the White House. Caroline Levitt, the White House press
00:03:16 secretary, is stepping down after over a year and a half in the role. That's a brutal job.
00:03:21 That job is sometimes one year in, one year out. In the case of the related job,
00:03:26 the White House communications director, you will recall that Mr. Scaramucci spent a solid
00:03:31 11 days on that job. So that's a very, very tough job. And Caroline Levitt has survived a very long
00:03:37 time. She's leaving on her own terms, on very good terms with the president. President writes,
00:03:42 our wonderful White House press secretary, one of my most trusted aides, Caroline Levitt,
00:03:46 will be departing her role at the end of the month so she can spend more time with her beautiful
00:03:49 young children and family. A decision I totally understand and respect. Caroline will now be one
00:03:54 of my top outside advisors and an influential voice within the Republican Party as we work
00:04:00 to defy history and conclusively win the midterms. Caroline has been a real leader in the White House
00:04:05 and has done a phenomenal job fighting for justice, liberty, and freedom since 2018, 1.00
00:04:08 including our historic re-election campaign of 2024. Caroline has been one of the best White
00:04:12 House press secretaries in the history of the office. Thank you, Caroline, for a job well done,
00:04:16 President Donald J. Trump. So true. She's really done a great job. You know, Trump has had some
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00:06:14 Caroline Levitt, can you think of one major error? She just did a great job in the role. 0.94
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00:06:29 because she was a real killer.
00:06:30 She was disciplined on message, could really twist the knife, but she did it with a smile.
00:06:35 She really just very, very solid.
00:06:37 So I think the White House is going to seriously miss her. 0.81
00:06:39 Now, obviously, the race is on to figure out who will replace her.
00:06:43 I think she's probably making the right decision.
00:06:45 To last in that role over a year and a half is very impressive.
00:06:48 She has these two young kids.
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00:07:02 smart to do it. But the Trump White House is going to suffer as a result because she did a really
00:07:08 great job in that role. I hope the replacement can come close. Now to the Tyler Robinson case.
00:07:14 You know, I was obviously addressing this on Monday with regard to the proposed debate that I was invited to moderate.
00:07:21 And what I said on Monday was what I've said consistently for 10 months and caught a lot of flack from all sides of everyone for saying it.
00:07:29 But I pointed out, I said, the constant speculation and recriminations and emotional language and harangues and all the rest on the podcasts about the Charlie Kirk murder case.
00:07:41 I said they weren't really doing any good for anyone.
00:07:44 A lot of people had good motivations and talking about it all the time.
00:07:47 But I said it's not really changing opinions.
00:07:50 I think it's doing a lot more harm than good.
00:07:52 And so I would strongly recommend against it and caught a ton of flack for saying it.
00:07:57 But what I said on Monday was that the guilt for Charlie's murder should be adjudicated with gravity and sobriety in a court of law rather than in this endless podcast speculation.
00:08:10 which gets more and more fanciful, and there's more invective involved, and all the rest.
00:08:16 My point on Monday, what I said, I think verbatim actually, is that Tyler Robinson's defense can
00:08:21 make its case, and the state can make its case, and then the rest of us can comment as hard facts
00:08:27 come to light from the authorities on the one hand and from the accused on the other hand.
00:08:32 Well, just a few days later, we get some new hard facts emerging in the defense filing a legal brief
00:08:40 with the court after that preliminary hearing that we saw last month. And the defense is really,
00:08:46 really interesting here. Do we have, no, they didn't print it out for me. I need the producers
00:08:53 right now to print out that defense, which they did not do. But in any case, we'll start going
00:08:58 through the defense's argument. The defense's argument is that the state has not proved
00:09:06 aggravated murder because no evidence, there's no evidence that Robinson endangered others beyond
00:09:13 Charlie. So we had the pretrial hearing last month. This is all to determine whether or not
00:09:20 the case should even go to trial. We're not in the trial right now. There's been no plea. There's
00:09:25 been no guilty plea. There's been no not guilty plea. We are not in it right now. We're just
00:09:30 determining whether or not the case will go to trial. Obviously, it will go to trial,
00:09:34 but that's what the defense is arguing about right now.
00:09:37 And so what the defense said is
00:09:38 the state has not proved aggravated murder.
00:09:42 What does aggravated murder mean?
00:09:45 Well, what it means is the state is trying
00:09:47 to get the death penalty for Tyler Robinson.
00:09:49 Not all murder cases could lead to the death penalty.
00:09:53 There have to be aggravating circumstances.
00:09:55 In this case, one of the aggravating circumstances
00:09:58 is that Tyler Robinson endangered a lot of other people.
00:10:04 allegedly. Allegedly, when he was taking the shot from the rooftop, he was endangering all those
00:10:10 other people who were in the crowd committing crimes in front of children. There were a lot
00:10:13 of children in the crowd. And so what the defense is arguing is very narrowly that this should not
00:10:19 be an aggravated murder case. It could be a plain murder case perhaps, but then the state can't seek
00:10:25 the death penalty. The defense goes on and says, the state has failed to establish probable cause
00:10:31 that the shooter knowingly created a great risk of death to another other than Charlie Kirk and
00:10:38 himself. The state is required as a matter of law to show more than a possibility that someone else
00:10:43 may be killed by the defendant's conduct. Because you could say, okay, well, look, he was firing a
00:10:47 gun into a crowd, and so therefore he was obviously endangering other people. But what the defense is
00:10:54 saying is, no, no, no, it can't just be that there's a possibility he could have killed other
00:10:57 people, you have to show that it was likely, that there was a high probability of that result,
00:11:04 and that the defendant knew of that high probability. So it's not even just that
00:11:07 there would be a high probability that someone else could be hurt, but that the defendant had
00:11:10 to know about that. So the whole point is to remove the death penalty here in this case.
00:11:16 Now, some people are going around on the internet and saying that the defense has pled guilty.
00:11:21 The defense has said, yeah, Tyler Robinson committed the crime. That's not exactly right.
00:11:26 because when the defense is writing about Tyler Robinson here, the defense is referring to the
00:11:34 individual identified as Mr. Robinson. The individual identified as Mr. Robinson is next
00:11:41 seen doing such and such and such, but not necessarily saying he's guilty. They have not
00:11:46 entered a plea of guilty or not guilty yet. However, where the rub comes in and where I
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00:14:09 about the text messages between Tyler Robinson and Lance Twiggs, and we'll see if the producers
00:14:16 can bring to me this printed copy of the filing. The communications the state admitted
00:14:23 between Mr. Robinson and Mr. Twiggs indicate Mr. Robinson's intention to kill Charlie Kirk.
00:14:30 See state evidence 16.3. Quote, I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I
00:14:37 took it. Here he is. Thank you, sir. That was very fast. That was very fast producing going on
00:14:44 as I demanded that filing to get it to me within seconds. It says, quote, this is the defense
00:14:49 writing this, quoting the communications that the state admitted between Robinson and Twiggs.
00:14:54 Quote, I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Cook, and I took it. Then the defense goes on,
00:14:59 there is no mention of any threat or intended harm to any other individuals. So what the state
00:15:07 is doing here is not saying that these texts are fake between Tyler Robinson and Lance Twiggs.
00:15:15 What the defense is doing here is not saying, Tyler Robinson never said, I had the opportunity
00:15:20 to take out Charlie Kirk and I took it. What the defense is doing is something much more
00:15:24 interesting. The defense is saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, here are these texts between Robinson and
00:15:28 Lance Twiggs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said, I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I
00:15:32 took it. And therefore that proves that he was not trying to kill other people. What the state
00:15:39 is saying is Tyler Robinson, what the state is alleging is that Tyler Robinson had four bullets
00:15:45 in that gun, in that rifle with the messages from Antifa written on it, catch this fascist or
00:15:51 hey fascist catch along with an Antifa anthem and other writings. So he says, well, there were four
00:15:58 bullets in there, he clearly was imperiling other people. And what the defense is saying is, no,
00:16:03 no, no, look at that text between Tyler Robinson and Lance Twiggs. He says, I had the opportunity
00:16:08 to take out Charlie Kirk and I took it. Therefore, he only wanted to take out Charlie Kirk.
00:16:13 Therefore, this is not a guilty plea, but what it is, is a way to argue that the state should
00:16:19 not seek the death penalty, that this was not aggravated murder, that if they're going to go
00:16:23 to trial, it should be trial for regular plain old murder, and therefore, he should not get the
00:16:28 death penalty. The defense filing acknowledges these texts to the trainee boyfriend about Tyler
00:16:37 Robinson saying that you should not say anything to the police. But the reason it's doing that is
00:16:43 because the state says, look, Tyler Robinson was trying to tamper with the witness. Tyler Robinson
00:16:49 was seeking to obstruct this investigation by telling Lance Twiggs to clam up and go get a
00:16:55 lawyer. And the defense is not coming in and saying, no, no, he didn't do that. No, no,
00:17:00 he didn't text Lance Twiggs. What the defense is doing is coming in and saying, yeah, yeah,
00:17:04 well, by the content of that text, you can see he was clearly not tampering with a witness.
00:17:10 Here's what the defense writes. Count six charges Mr. Robinson with tampering with a witness in
00:17:14 violation of Utah Code, Section 768508. The information alleges that Mr. Robinson committed
00:17:19 this offense by, quote, directing his roommate to stay silent if police questioned his roommate.
00:17:24 Count six must be stricken because Mr. Robinson's advice to Mr. Twiggs is consistent with the
00:17:32 longstanding constitutional principle that every person in this country has the right to remain
00:17:36 silent in the face of government interrogation. And because the context in which the allegedly
00:17:40 improper statement was made, demonstrates that it was, quote, purely altruistic and for Mr.
00:17:46 Twiggs' benefit rather than for the purpose of obstructing an investigation. Notice what the
00:17:51 defense is not saying. The defense is not saying count six must be stricken because Mr. Robinson's
00:17:58 supposed advice to Mr. Twiggs, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's saying, no, no, no. Okay, yeah,
00:18:05 We accept that Mr. Robinson said this to Mr. Twiggs. And therefore, he was not obstructing
00:18:11 an investigation. Therefore, he was not witness tampering because of what Robinson said. Not that
00:18:16 he didn't say it, not that this is all made up, but on the basis of what Robinson said to Mr.
00:18:22 Twiggs when he said, clam up, don't talk to police, go get a lawyer. Because of that, you can see
00:18:29 that Mr. Robinson had a purely altruistic motive, that he was encouraging Mr. Twiggs to exercise
00:18:36 his constitutional rights. This is a much narrower way for the defense to provide a good defense for
00:18:42 Tyler Robinson. And this, well, here, before we get to the broad takeaway from this, I'll just read
00:18:48 a little bit of these text messages that the defense is accepting here. This is on page 28,
00:18:55 I think it is. You can get this. I think Fox News is hosting the full filing, so you can read this
00:19:01 for yourself. Here is what the defense is writing. Whether an individual who is under investigation
00:19:08 is obstructing that investigation or providing truly altruistic advice to another requires a
00:19:12 context-specific analysis. Here, the conversation between Mr. Twiggs and Mr. Robinson demonstrates
00:19:17 that Mr. Robinson's focus was on protecting Mr. Twiggs from any fallout from the events which
00:19:22 had transpired, not on inducing him to obstruct an investigation. He says to Mr. Twiggs, not he
00:19:28 allegedly says to Mr. Twiggs, not the state alleges that he said to Mr. Twiggs, not the
00:19:33 state is lying when they say that he said this to Mr. Twiggs. The defense, Tyler Robinson's own
00:19:38 defense says, he says to Mr. Twiggs, and then here are the texts, that the defense is acknowledging
00:19:44 as legitimate. Quote, I am going to turn myself in willingly. One of my neighbors here is a deputy
00:19:49 for the sheriff. We hope to keep things sort of quiet here. I only hope they let you visit.
00:19:53 I'm going to miss you too. Please be good for me. If you need anything at all, both of my parents
00:19:57 are willing to help you. Please go to them. Leave the room alone. The feds will search it top to
00:20:01 bottom for certain. Then work with my family to sort it out. What goes where and such.
00:20:07 Mr. Robinson responded in response to Lance Twigg saying, is there any way you don't go to prison?
00:20:13 This is what the defense is saying. Mr. Robinson said, quote, I highly doubt it. I will update you
00:20:18 as much as I can. If you need a place to stay, I'm sure my family would have you in my old room.
00:20:23 You are all I worry about, love. This is so nauseating for like a hundred different reasons,
00:20:27 but we'll still read it. Don't talk to any media, please. Don't take any interviews or
00:20:31 make comments. I will always love you too. I will write to you as soon as possible.
00:20:35 I will write to you as often as possible. If any police ask you questions, ask for a lawyer,
00:20:39 stay silent, make sure the police follow the right procedures, proper warrants and stuff.
00:20:42 be polite and respectful, of course, on and on and on. Okay, so why? Why is the defense doing this?
00:20:49 Why is the defense not just coming out and saying, we do not accept the validity of these texts?
00:20:55 We do not, he's framed, he's innocent in this kind of filing. Well, one, this is the legal brief
00:21:02 after the preliminary hearing. They're still ostensibly trying to get the whole case thrown
00:21:06 out. That's not going to happen. So what they're narrowly trying to do is just reduce the severity
00:21:12 of the punishment that will be considered when the case goes to trial. And why are they doing
00:21:17 that? The reason they're doing that is because Tyler Robinson has the right to a defense.
00:21:22 In our justice system, the accused has a right to a defense. And the lawyers have an obligation
00:21:30 to provide the best defense that they can. But the best defense is not always the broadest defense.
00:21:36 that the broadest defense you could make,
00:21:40 the most ambitious defense you could make
00:21:42 of Tyler Robinson in this case
00:21:43 is not, he only intended to kill Charlie Kirk,
00:21:47 is not, well, he was not obstructing a witness.
00:21:50 He just really cares about Lance Twiggs.
00:21:52 The broadest defense you could make is,
00:21:54 oh, Tyler Robinson, he was never in Utah.
00:21:57 He's never been in Utah,
00:21:58 so he couldn't have committed the crime.
00:22:00 Yeah, no, those texts can't be legit
00:22:02 because he's never met Lance Twiggs.
00:22:04 Tyler Robinson, he's never held a gun.
00:22:06 He's never even seen a gun. Therefore, this is all ridiculous. That's the broadest defense you 0.97
00:22:12 could make. That would not be the best defense that you could make. It's not the best defense
00:22:15 you could make because it's totally implausible. So the best defense that Tyler Robinson's lawyers
00:22:22 can make for him right now is probably this one. It's probably to say, okay, well, let's make sure
00:22:28 it's not aggravated murder so that the death penalty is not on the table. Let's try to reduce
00:22:33 some of these other charges. So he wasn't obstructing the investigation. He wasn't
00:22:37 tampering with the witness. Let's try to reduce the charges as much as they can be by dealing
00:22:42 with reality, the reality that we accept. For example, that these texts were actually sent.
00:22:49 If we can deal in reality, we might be able to actually provide the best possible defense for
00:22:54 our client, meaning he might not fry. He might not be killed by the state. That's what the defense
00:23:02 is doing here. It's not a guilty plea. You're not going to get that for a while. This case is
00:23:08 really dragging out. But they will decide very shortly as we come up on the one-year anniversary
00:23:13 of Charlie's murder. They will decide whether or not this goes to trial. It certainly will.
00:23:19 And then you'll hear the defense's arguments. But you've already begun to see some of the
00:23:24 defense's arguments, the angles that they're going to take. And apropos of what we were talking about
00:23:28 on Monday. This is going to do infinitely more to clear the air, show people the facts of the
00:23:38 case. This is going to do infinitely more than idle speculation and accusations and provocations
00:23:46 and recriminations and highly emotional language coming from podcasters. The only thing, if public
00:23:52 opinion will be swayed at all, and there will always be some degree of public opinion that
00:23:56 will not be swayed by anything. But if public opinion is to be swayed at all,
00:24:00 it's going to be swayed by the arguments that are made in a sober and grave way in a court of law.
00:24:09 Not only by the state, it's not that you just have to believe the government,
00:24:12 but also by the defense. That's what will move it. And I think that if we can avoid
00:24:19 spinning our wheels and dissipating a lot of energy and allowing ourselves to speculate in
00:24:27 such a way that it can lead to even greater injustice. If we can just kind of focus on the
00:24:33 facts and deal with the facts as they come in, in the proper channels from the defense,
00:24:39 which has the strongest motive of anyone to try to get Tyler Robinson off the hook,
00:24:44 that is going to do a lot more good. That is one of the purposes of our system of justice,
00:24:51 which any system of justice is going to be imperfect, but we have one nonetheless. We
00:24:56 have one for a reason. That is probably going to do the most good. And we're seeing that.
00:25:02 Every time, in this case, it drags on and on and on. Every time that something new actually happens,
00:25:09 it does infinitely more to clear the air and sharpen the perspective of what actually happened
00:25:14 on that very terrible day than idle chatter on podcasts. Okay. Now let's turn to the Lindsay
00:25:20 Clancy murder case, this woman who allegedly killed her three kids. First though, a dark 0.97
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00:26:37 Together, we can save lives one heartbeat at a time. Lindsay Clancy. I've not talked about the
00:26:42 Lindsay Clancy case, I don't think ever on this show. Lindsay Clancy is on trial for murdering
00:26:48 her three kids. She allegedly strangled her three young kids to death three years ago in Massachusetts.
00:26:54 Her kids were five years old, three years old, and eight months old. Really little kids.
00:27:00 Lindsay Clancy had sent her husband out of the house to run some errands. She then went up and
00:27:08 strangled her kids to death and then jumped out of a second story window to try to kill herself. 1.00
00:27:14 But she didn't kill herself. She paralyzed herself from the waist down, but she didn't 0.97
00:27:18 actually kill herself. So she's pled not guilty to the first degree murder charges in this trial.
00:27:23 And her defense, her defense is not that Lindsay Clancy didn't do anything. Her defense is not
00:27:29 some super broad thing. She was framed. She was set up. It's all fake. No, no, no. Her defense is
00:27:34 that she was suffering with postpartum psychosis
00:27:39 and crucially that she was under the influence
00:27:42 of psychiatric meds.
00:27:44 Clancy was a former labor and delivery nurse,
00:27:46 makes it even darker.
00:27:48 So what are some facts that we're getting now?
00:27:50 Here's one new fact.
00:27:51 Lindsay Clancy had messaged one of her caregivers
00:27:55 two months, less than two months
00:27:57 before she allegedly murdered her three young kids
00:27:59 to say that she was having, quote,
00:28:01 intrusive thoughts I never had before.
00:28:03 quote, feeling completely hopeless and that she was worried about becoming addicted to the drugs.
00:28:10 So what's the political import of this case? Obviously, there's a lot of political import
00:28:14 to the murder of Charlie. In this case, though, is there political import or is it just a really
00:28:19 sad case about a mom who murdered her kids? In other words, is it a really dark crime case that
00:28:25 people can follow out of curiosity, morbid curiosity about true crime? Or is there political
00:28:31 import. I think there is political import because the case is about the drugs. Her defense is I was
00:28:37 taking all these psych drugs. I had this underlying condition. I was taking a bunch of psych drugs
00:28:41 and the drugs made me do it. And the political import is one in four American women is on psych 0.51
00:28:48 drugs. One in four American women today, 24.9%, I think the number is, is on psych drugs, some kind
00:28:56 a psych drug today. There are a bunch of men on psych drugs too, but the number is way, way lower
00:29:02 than that. It's really the women, one in four American women on these psych drugs. And the
00:29:07 psych drugs have all sorts of negative effects. I'm not, I'm not disputing that the psych drugs
00:29:11 have negative effects. You see this whenever you see it in the commercials, you're watching a
00:29:14 baseball game, the commercial comes on. Are you feeling sad sometimes? Well, how about you take
00:29:19 a bunch of drugs? Side effects include suicide. Say, well, hold on. I'm feeling sad. I'm feeling 0.88
00:29:25 like a little bit sad, and you're telling me I need to take this drug, the side effect of which 0.97
00:29:29 might be that I kill myself. Side effect is worsening depression. Hold on, I'm taking the
00:29:34 drug to cure my depression. You're telling me a side effect is worsening depression. And you might
00:29:39 kill yourself and try to kill everyone you love. Take this drug. Okay, back to the baseball game. 1.00
00:29:46 You say, well, that doesn't make a lot of sense. But all these women are on the drugs. 1.00
00:29:50 And I know that these drugs have really negative side effects. A personal friend of mine killed 0.97
00:29:55 herself some years ago now, two weeks after starting some of these drugs. I guess she was
00:30:01 kind of sad or kind of anxious, but not severely so. Started taking these drugs, two weeks later,
00:30:07 she kills herself. And the pharma companies wouldn't even dispute that there could be a
00:30:11 connection with the drugs. They tell you that in the commercials. They tell you, yeah, one side
00:30:15 effect is you might kill yourself. Or in this case, what the defense is arguing for Lindsay Clancy is,
00:30:19 yeah, one side effect of these drugs is you might kill all of your little kids and then try to kill 0.99
00:30:24 yourself. So the political question we have to ask ourselves is, is it right that we allow one
00:30:33 in four American women to take these drugs? Because if, I don't think the legal defense 0.96
00:30:37 is going to work, but if the legal defense can be, yeah, you're not responsible for your own
00:30:40 actions when you take drugs that a quarter of Americans, that a quarter of American women are
00:30:44 on, then we have a major crisis of justice. We cannot live in a society where one in four people
00:30:52 can kill you at any time and say, oopsie-daisy, the big pharma made me do it. And then there's
00:30:58 an even deeper question, which is, why are the women on all of these drugs? 1.00
00:31:04 And the answer to that is, this will get me in a little bit of trouble, but women have always 1.00
00:31:09 been kind of crazy. Men have their own issues too, but women are crazy in a different way and 1.00
00:31:14 more severely so. They are. Back in the 50s, they were taking Valium, you know, when we were 1.00
00:31:20 drinking over. And we as a society encourage women to drug themselves. And we encourage 1.00
00:31:28 crazy medical interventions. We give them, what was the thing where we used to scramble up their
00:31:32 brains? Lobotomies. When women got a little hysterical, as they sometimes do, we would just 0.90
00:31:37 scramble up their brains. And we said, well, that's too bad. We're not going to stick a needle 1.00
00:31:41 up your nose and scramble up your brain anymore. We're just going to do it through a drug. We're
00:31:44 going to stick a pill in your mouth, and then that's going to scramble up your brain. 0.56
00:31:50 And so the deeper question here is, should we really be doing that? Why are the women 1.00
00:31:54 so upset? There's always, you know, it's a fallen world. People are always a little upset, 1.00
00:31:58 I guess. But why now? There's a study that I go back to frequently in debates on feminism,
00:32:05 which came out of Yale a while ago now, 2008, 2009, which said that over the last,
00:32:13 at that point, 50 or so years, 40 years, women and men had both gotten less happy.
00:32:18 but women had especially become unhappy. Women's happiness had declined both in absolute terms and
00:32:25 relative to men. And the reason that matters with feminism is that corresponds to the exact period 0.98
00:32:31 since second wave feminism kicked off, since the real feminism, Gloria Steinem, 0.96
00:32:36 woman needs a man like a fish, needs a bicycle, burn your bras kind of feminism. 1.00
00:32:39 So they said, this was a paradox of declining female happiness. How is it? Women's life, 1.00
00:32:43 they've gotten more rights. They've gotten, they've come up in society. They've broken 1.00
00:32:47 in the glass ceiling. How is it possible? It's so crazy that they would have gotten less happy.
00:32:51 And for a normal person, you would say, yeah, I know correlation is not causation, but 1.00
00:32:55 feminism is terrible. And the fact that as feminism progressed, women got miserable is 1.00
00:33:00 totally logical to me. I would totally expect that. But a deeper question for society is why 1.00
00:33:07 are all the women so crazy now? We are constantly told that things are better for women than they've 1.00
00:33:13 ever been. But women are drugging themselves at rates that we've never seen. And then when things 1.00
00:33:20 go haywire, and they kill their kids, and they try to kill themselves, we say, well, it's the
00:33:23 drug's fault. Well, let's just rewind a little bit. Why are they taking the drugs in the first
00:33:27 place? In other words, there is an intervention that we can engage in that's not just applying
00:33:33 women with pills. But people don't want to have that conversation. Maybe there are real stressors
00:33:42 to women in the modern society. 0.99
00:33:45 Maybe it really is tough for women to have it all. 0.97
00:33:48 Maybe there is a real stress that women are expected 1.00
00:33:50 not only to take care of little kids, 1.00
00:33:53 not only to keep a home,
00:33:54 not only to do the dishes and make the dinner,
00:33:57 clean the house, but also to go to work
00:33:59 and work for eight to 10 hours a day.
00:34:01 And also to try to be exactly like men, 1.00
00:34:03 but to also have the traditional female role. 0.99
00:34:06 And yeah, maybe in a way, 1.00
00:34:08 maybe the feminists are right about diagnosing that problem. 1.00
00:34:11 not about their prescription for it whether we're talking about the drugs or we're talking about the 1.00
00:34:15 behavior but yeah maybe something's really wrong with women and it's not just women's fault it's 0.90
00:34:20 because there's something really wrong with society maybe we need to reconsider some of
00:34:26 the old traditions the traditional gender norms the traditional understanding that men and women
00:34:31 are different and understanding that totally went out the window with transgenderism maybe 0.81
00:34:35 we need to go back and accept that and realize that progressive liberalism is terrible and 0.97
00:34:40 feminism is terrible. Liberalism itself has lots of problems in as much as it encourages people to 0.88
00:34:46 rebel against nature. And maybe we need to accept a much older, deeper understanding of human nature
00:34:53 and politics. And we're not just going to paper over the problems with pills, because even when
00:34:59 you do that, it can lead to disastrous effects. Side effects include homicide and suicide. Okay.
00:35:04 Speaking of that transgender ideology, Abdul al-Sayed. Abdul is doubling down. He wants to 0.95
00:35:09 trans the kids. We'll get to that in a second. First though, my favorite comment yesterday is
00:35:14 from Ethan Coonan, who says, I introduced my fiance to this show a couple of years ago when
00:35:20 she was more liberal. Now, when I come home about the first thing I hear is, did you listen to
00:35:26 Michael Knowles today yet? We get married in two weeks. You're a lucky man, my friend. We got to
00:35:30 find you some Mayflower cigars. We got to, you're a lucky man. You're like the opposite of that poor
00:35:36 schlubby groom who went viral the other day when his wife nearly had a sort of panic attack because
00:35:44 the officiant at their wedding called her by his name. You're the opposite. You're going to have
00:35:49 a great marriage. You know that? You picked a winner. We got to get you a Mayflower. Okay,
00:35:54 folks, we have another episode of Friendly Fire tonight at 7 p.m. Eastern. It's actually the
00:35:57 first I'm hearing about that. Tune in live on The Daily Wire or watch it the next day wherever you
00:36:01 get your podcasts. If you haven't watched Friendly Fire yet, it is a show where we argue with each
00:36:05 other for your entertainment. No moderator, no safe words. Don't miss it. Okay. Abdul El-Sayed
00:36:11 wants to trans the kids. This relates not only to the confusion of men and women. This relates
00:36:18 also to inappropriately prescribing drugs to people. Here is Abdul El-Sayed,
00:36:22 Democrat nominee for Senate on some podcast. Healthcare should be a choice made by a patient
00:36:29 and their doctor. If that patient is under the age of 18, the parents as well, right?
00:36:35 And I believe that Medicare for all should cover all health care, which is defined by what a patient needs in accordance with their doctor.
00:36:46 So that includes reproductive rights, right?
00:36:49 That includes gender-affirming care. 1.00
00:36:52 Yeah, we need to trans the kids. 1.00
00:36:55 Woke 2.0. 1.00
00:36:56 Woke 2.0 looks a lot like Woke 1.0, doesn't it?
00:36:59 They haven't learned a thing. 0.60
00:37:00 They haven't changed a single opinion on immigration, on the political order, on patriotism, on marriage, on the family, even on transing the kids.
00:37:11 They're exactly the same, which is why Republicans need to lean into this issue harder than ever.
00:37:20 A lot of Republicans, especially if you're really tied in, if you pay attention politically, you're going to say, oh, it's like beating a dead horse.
00:37:25 We won the trans fight.
00:37:27 It was a hard fought, but we won the trans fight. 0.98
00:37:29 Now we can move on. 0.99
00:37:30 we can't move on. We shouldn't move on anyway, but we can't move on because the left won't move
00:37:36 on. The left has not given up. And in a fight, your opponent gets a say. In a war, your opponent
00:37:41 gets a say. That's what we're dealing with in Iran right now. And they won't give it up. They 0.96
00:37:46 won't give it up even though they know it's politically toxic because it is the necessary
00:37:50 logical outgrowth of their ideology. And we can't give it up because they won't give it up. And we
00:37:56 shouldn't give it up because it's one of our best political winners. What are we going to run on in
00:37:59 the midterms. Are we going to run on foreign policy right now that we're in this protracted
00:38:04 war with Iran? Probably not. Are we going to run on affordability? That's the Democrats'
00:38:09 favorite slogan. That's what they're going to try to run on. And I think a lot of their
00:38:13 arguments are specious, but they're going to win that fight right now. Are we going to run on
00:38:19 the mass deportations? We've got some real wins on the mass deportations, 0.99
00:38:23 but it's never going to be enough for what people want because the Democrats let the
00:38:27 problem gets so bad? What are we supposed to run on? We can't run against the party in power. We
00:38:33 are the party in power. Are we going to run on tax cuts? To some degree that might work, but it's not
00:38:38 going to be enough. This is a very potent issue. And the fact that Abdul El-Sayed is continuing to
00:38:45 embrace it is really helpful. Just force the Democrats on this issue. The Dems clearly think
00:38:52 it is better to make Abdul El-Sayed look like a pro-trans groomer than it is to make him look
00:39:00 like a jihadi, which is the other way to attack him. Say he's Islamic. He wants Sharia law in 0.98
00:39:05 America. This is a takeover of a hostile civilization that's been trying to conquer 1.00
00:39:09 us for 1,400 years. They clearly think that's a bigger liability than the trans stuff. 1.00
00:39:13 Okay, so you message differently to different groups, but then give them that fight. Double 0.82
00:39:18 down on the trans stuff. Speaking of the Islamic issue, though, let's not forget we have the Daily 1.00
00:39:24 Wire's new Red Dawn coming out. This is the second movie after Run, Hide, Fight 1. We have Run,
00:39:30 Hide, Fight Infidels, which is the Red Dawn for 2026, where a bunch of Muslims take over 1.00
00:39:36 university. Do we have the trailer? Do we have the trailer? No. This is unbelievable. This is so 1.00
00:39:44 one. Mr. Davies, my producer, gets in my ear. He says, hey, tease the run, hide, fight trailer
00:39:49 since you're talking about Muslims. I say, okay, I'll tease the trailer. Do you have the trailer? 1.00
00:39:52 No. What do I, I don't know. Maybe the Muslims should take over, all right? Because they dot
00:39:58 their T's and cross their I's. No, I'm joking. I don't want them to take over. And I don't want
00:40:01 the pro-trans people to take over either. And we seem to have a unity of those things in the
00:40:06 Democrat party. Okay. Speaking of weird, creepy grooming from Muslim Democrat politicians,
00:40:12 really niche, really narrow. Bizarre new program from New York City Mayor Zoran Mamdani. Mamdani 0.59
00:40:20 is announcing this new pilot program called Parents' Night Out in New York City. And what
00:40:27 is Parents' Night Out in New York City? It's a, quote, one-night drop-off program that gives
00:40:31 parents and caregivers the opportunity to enjoy an evening to themselves while children participate
00:40:37 and supervised fun at select New York City parks, recreation centers across the five boroughs.
00:40:42 So what is the actual program? The program is you, you go and you drop your little kids off
00:40:49 with random city employees in a park and you just leave them and then you go away
00:40:56 and it's never been done before. And then you come back and your kids, your kids will be great.
00:41:02 Don't worry. They're without, just leave them with us. We, no, we have candy. We have puppies.
00:41:06 They're like literally saying that.
00:41:07 No, we have candy and puppies. 0.96
00:41:08 Leave your kids with us in the park.
00:41:09 And then you go somewhere else.
00:41:12 And now you might say, well, okay,
00:41:13 parents do this all the time when it comes to school,
00:41:16 when it comes to public school.
00:41:17 That's true.
00:41:19 Public school also does have very elevated rates
00:41:21 of abusive children,
00:41:22 much higher than not only the Catholic church,
00:41:25 which has been attacked for that for decades now,
00:41:27 like twice the rate of any priestly abuse,
00:41:31 which is on par with the abuse of other religions.
00:41:33 That's another topic.
00:41:35 But, yeah, the public schools double that rate of anything you're seeing in any religious community.
00:41:41 But that is actually a concern.
00:41:43 But furthermore, at the very least, the schools are a place that have been designed and regulated for many decades to protect kids with people whose job it is specifically to protect kids.
00:41:54 In the parents' night out, what Mamdani is saying is, hey, leave your kids with a random parks employee.
00:41:59 drop your kids off in the park to have candy and play with puppies and then you go away
00:42:06 doesn't seem great uh on top of that you have mom donnie and all the rest of them
00:42:14 who are openly campaigning on perverting your kids openly campaigning on convincing your kid
00:42:21 that he's the opposite sex on plying your kid with drugs you want to talk about inappropriate drugs 0.72
00:42:26 plying your kid with drugs, cross-sex hormones that will permanently disfigure him and shorten 0.82
00:42:30 his life and pervert him and speak directly to his sexuality down to kindergarten. That's like 0.81
00:42:39 pretty creepy. I don't think I would be doing that. And you get the broader point that the
00:42:44 left wants beyond the, I think, legitimate accusations of perversion on the left. You get
00:42:49 the broader point, which is the left really wants to separate you from your kids. Have you noticed
00:42:54 that, the left is fanatical about separating you from your kids. From the moment your kid is
00:43:02 conceived, the left relentlessly is propagandizing you to kill your kid, to permanently separate you 1.00
00:43:08 from your kid. As a matter of empowerment, as a matter of rights, you just saw the governor of 0.98
00:43:13 Massachusetts sign a law cheering with a bunch of witches around her. In Massachusetts, I guess
00:43:18 that's fitting, saying how wonderful it is that now women get to kill their kids right up until 1.00
00:43:23 the moment of birth. So you get that. And then the libs are always trying to push. Go to school 1.00
00:43:29 a little earlier. Go to daycare. We'll pay for the daycare. Don't worry. Drop your kid off. Get
00:43:33 away from your kid. Go to work. Go do something else. Go have a night to yourself. Bring your 0.99
00:43:39 kid to start. And it used to be in first grade at age six. Then came kindergarten at age five.
00:43:44 Then there was pre-K at age four. Now there's pre-K three at age three. In New York City,
00:43:49 you can drop your kid off at preschool at age two. And then they want to keep your kid for longer.
00:43:56 Everyone's got to go to college, even if it's a bad decision, even if your kid's not really fit
00:44:00 for college, even if the colleges don't offer anything to your kid. Everyone's got to go to
00:44:03 college. And then, you know, maybe go to graduate school. Maybe go get a master's degree. Maybe get
00:44:07 a few master's degrees. Maybe get a PhD. The libs, through the mechanism of their state apparatus,
00:44:13 are trying to take your kids for as long as possible
00:44:17 because they view you as a threat.
00:44:21 The chief threat to the left is the family, full stop.
00:44:25 That is true today.
00:44:27 That has always been true.
00:44:29 And so they try to attack the family.
00:44:32 I was just, I just sat down with Cardinal Burke,
00:44:34 who one of the truly great church men of our age
00:44:37 or of any age.
00:44:38 Cardinal Burke, that interview, it's an off the clock.
00:44:41 So we take a lot of your questions in it.
00:44:42 that interview will be coming out shortly. But Cardinal Barca said, we have to be willing to
00:44:47 be martyrs to defend the family. Not just martyrs generally for the faith, but he says,
00:44:54 something that we need to be prepared for as a proximate cause of martyrdom is the defense of
00:44:58 the family. The fact that the left has been fanatical about redefining the family,
00:45:04 allowing people to purchase children, promoting divorce, which separates parents from children.
00:45:10 obviously the surrogacy industry separating children from the from their natural mothers
00:45:15 and from the only mother they know the surrogate it's this it's this sense of entitlement that we
00:45:21 have a right to your kids give us your kids what did one of these candidates said you know look we
00:45:27 rely we rely on the state we rely on the family to raise kids i was covering on the show just the
00:45:33 other day we rely on the family to raise kids but like you know there are kids very very creepy okay
00:45:38 I want to get to, so much more I want to get to, because Marco Rubio just had a magnificent
00:45:43 interview on Katie Miller's podcast. Really, really good. It was great. He was so real for it.
00:45:49 I'm just going to get to it. I'll at least get to part of it. I can't help, because,
00:45:53 look, obviously, I've supported President Trump since 2016. Big fan. Big fan of the ad. Haven't
00:45:59 turned on the admin. He's the greatest president of my lifetime. I love the MAGA coalition. I love
00:46:05 that it brought back in the working class. I love that it's brought in some racial minorities. I
00:46:09 love that it's retaken over the common sense. I love all of it. There's one part of it though
00:46:13 that I can't get totally into, which is the Maha stuff. I mean, look, I like that we brought in
00:46:18 the Maha voters, but I'm not one of these guys. I say, what do we have to do now? I can't. I have 1.00
00:46:24 to get a special water filter installed on my shower in case the bad rusty water ever touches
00:46:32 my precious little forehead. And I got to, I can't eat the regular hot dog. I got to eat some
00:46:36 other kind of hot dog and I can't eat carbs. And I got to do this. I don't know. It's too much.
00:46:41 It's too much for me. Okay. And, but the whole administration is, oh no, we really,
00:46:46 we're doing all the stuff that Bobby Kennedy tells us to do, whatever. Marco Rubio was just
00:46:49 asked about this, about the Maha diet. And he was so real for his answer.
00:46:53 I'm in favor of Maha.
00:47:23 Like, I think people should be healthy.
00:47:24 No, he is not.
00:47:24 Preach.
00:47:25 But I think ultimately at the end-
00:47:26 He is completely not.
00:47:27 What's he eat?
00:47:28 Pop-tarts.
00:47:29 No, I don't eat pop-tarts every day.
00:47:31 Okay, you eat sweets.
00:47:32 The pop-tart is one of the great American innovations
00:47:34 in history of the world.
00:47:36 If you think about it,
00:47:36 it comes in this beautiful foil package.
00:47:38 He eats all the things you should not be eating.
00:47:39 Every single thing.
00:47:41 Preach.
00:47:41 He's so real for it.
00:47:43 And it doesn't even,
00:47:44 this doesn't even seem scripted.
00:47:46 Sometimes, more than sometimes,
00:47:47 politicians in their little repartee with their wife,
00:47:51 it seems kind of scripted.
00:47:52 it's perfectly focused group too. But here he is actually contradicting all of his friends and
00:47:57 colleagues. And everyone's been towing this line, oh no, Bobby Kennedy. No, this is right. Yeah,
00:48:02 we can only ever eat sauerkraut. I like sauerkraut. I'm a New Yorker. I think a hot dog is only
00:48:06 appropriate with mustard and sauerkraut on it. But come on, for every meal, what are we talking
00:48:09 about? And I can't have a bowl of pasta? What? Come on. And they all do it. And I get it if you
00:48:14 want to lose weight, if you want to, if you're, I don't know if you're a real health nut, but for
00:48:18 most people, come on, man, give me a break. And they all tow the line and the rubia comes out.
00:48:23 He goes, no, it's ridiculous. I'm the secretary of state. I'm not going to travel around with 0.93
00:48:27 coolers full of sauerkraut. This is too much. This is precious. Okay. It's actually, it's actually,
00:48:33 he doesn't say this, but this is a form of gluttony. We think of gluttony as just when
00:48:37 you stuff your face with lots of candies and sweets. Another form of gluttony is being a
00:48:41 picky eater. Like anorexia in a weird way is kind of a form of gluttony in the sense that
00:48:46 you were just you're making an idol out of food and you're you're misplacing a love there and
00:48:51 you're being too picky and you shouldn't it's not that you should just be like a big fatso stuff in
00:48:54 your face all the time which i do sometimes but it's you you you just don't want to be too precious
00:48:58 about it you don't want to make an idol out of food and so rubio comes out he's like nah man i'm
00:49:03 not doing that it's weird i'm not doing it it's not what do you eat and the wife says he eats pop
00:49:07 tarts and then he i don't eat pop tarts it'd be like the cutesy scripted version would be he eats
00:49:12 Pop-Tarts. Well, you know, I like a little Pop-Tart every now and again. But it's realer
00:49:17 than that. He comes out and goes, I don't eat Pop-Tarts all the time. But Pop-Tarts are one
00:49:21 of the great American inventions. It's so easy. It's so delicious. He's real for that. Thank you.
00:49:25 I appreciated that, Mr. Secretary. I appreciated that because I can't pretend.
00:49:34 I love, this is what I say about Trump. Trump's not the most Maha guy in the world, obviously, 0.78
00:49:38 but uh which he's very real for too but the trump administration it's right like 99.789
00:49:46 percent of the time 0.67 percent of the time and but occasionally there's a little you know i
00:49:51 thought that first step act was a little it was a little weak on crime i didn't love that you know
00:49:54 but but it's it's right basically all the time but one of the discordant features is is all the
00:50:00 crazy maha stuff i don't thank you i feel like i'm being gaslit sometimes and the rubio comes out
00:50:06 from the top of the rope, and I agree.
00:50:08 I totally agree, Mr. Secretary.
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00:50:29 Your country is beneath contempt.
00:50:32 We who love and serve Allah fought back.
00:50:36 Against the Americans and the Zionists from the scourge of secularism and the lands of unbelief
00:50:49 Anyone gonna listen to Captain Saunders tomorrow? The retired Delta Force soldier with a new book out
00:50:54 He's the polar opposite of those brain-dead protesters. Given the current climate, should Clay Saunders even be allowed on campus?
00:51:01 Mr. Saunders is a close personal friend of Chancellor Friedman. This is a decision I cannot find.
00:51:05 There are three ways Islam will conquer the West. 1.00
00:51:10 Through immigration, through the wombs of our women, 1.00
00:51:16 and by using our nation's freedoms against us. 1.00
00:51:24 Are you paying attention?
00:51:32 Listen carefully.
00:51:35 the great satan america will fall 1.00
00:51:40 you are infidels the bodies of women are not pure and the men's souls are unclean 1.00
00:51:51 what makes them so dangerous their goals are not in this life but the next 1.00
00:51:59 anyone
00:52:03 we got friends here i can't just leave listen to me in the law we cannot run or hide from what 0.97
00:52:10 is coming we have to fight i will be rewarded 10 000 times in the next life when you die
00:52:17 you're nothing only one way to find out 0.74
00:52:20 that's the american way
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