00:04:09Without any doubt whatsoever, bar none, no close competitor, essentially the secretariat of bad White House press secretaries.
00:04:17Just there's no one else even in the picture.0.99
00:04:19But that's because pretty much every day she would do something stupid and then it would lead the news.0.96
00:04:24And you don't get that from Caroline Leavitt, who, again, was given a challenging job because the president's policies are pretty controversial on a wide variety of issues.0.97
00:04:31So, yeah, I think Caroline did herself really proud here.
00:04:34And she's the only person in politics who I actually believe when she says that she does not want to do this job because she wants to go spend time with her kids.
00:04:41I will admit to being mildly sexist here, when a man says I need to quit the job to go spend time with my kids, usually like 70% of the time he means I need to spend more time with my mistress.
00:04:50When Caroline Levitt says I need to spend more time with my kids, I think she actually does really want to go spend more time with her kids.
00:04:56I actually think that the best thing that she did was not just all the things you're listing.
00:04:59From a performance standpoint, yes, I think she did a very good job.
00:05:03I think her lasting legacy, though, will be bringing in alternative media outlets to the press room.
00:05:09That was something we did not see as much of an effort on in the first Trump term.
00:05:12And I think she deserves credit for not only allowing those voices in the room and working and pressuring the Courts Respondents Association to bring in outlets that are not traditional legacy ones,
00:05:23but actually calling on them and promoting them, putting them in that new media seat right next to the podium.
00:05:28and the Daily Wire now has a seat at the actual or in the press room.
00:05:33And I think that that is the big legacy that she leaves0.98
00:05:36is taking away some of the power from the legacy outlets.
00:05:39Yeah, no, I remember when the transition was up and running.
00:06:40What do you make of those controversial statements I'm sure you've seen?
00:06:43I mean, she's, you know, the Thanksgiving dust up.
00:06:47She says she doesn't, you know, still believe that.
00:06:49But, you know, abolish prisons, abolish police, which is also positions that have been taken by a lot of the progressive candidates who have won.
00:08:24And it's clearly an intentional pivot ahead of the midterms to say, yeah, we want to distance ourselves from all that stuff that got us blown out in 2024.
00:08:32But it seems to me that woke 2.0 is exactly the same thing.
00:08:44So the way that I would distinguish Woke 1.0 from Woke 2.0 is Woke 1.0 is the idea that the chief motivating factor in all of Western civilization and in America particularly was racism, that it was white supremacy, right?
00:08:55It was Black Lives Matter, that the 1619 Project made the argument that basically slavery and racism were the thing that built, say, capitalism or free speech was an aspect of a racist system.
00:09:05Racism was the underlying motivating factor, and it was incurable.
00:09:17And also, most Americans looked at their neighbors and went, well, I don't see that many racists around here, and that doesn't feel real to me.
00:09:23Woke 2.0, I do think, has a little bit more legs than Woke 1.0.
00:09:27I think Woke 2.0 is making a different argument, and that is that the root of all evil is capitalism.
00:09:35Woke 2.0 is the idea that racism, imperialism, colonialism, all of this is the result of individual rights and free markets in the West.
00:09:42And so all of that stuff needs to be thrown away.
00:09:45And it's why you're seeing some horseshoe effect where you see some people on the right who are sort of warming to Woke 2.0.
00:09:50It's why you'll see people like – if you listen to Hassan Piker on the left and Tucker Carlson on the right talk about economics, there's actually some significant crossover in the way they're talking about this sort of stuff because the idea is that capitalism is the thing that's to blame.
00:10:03that that's a richer vein to mine for two reasons one people are really pissed off about the price
00:10:07of things lately and i think that there's rationality to that again i think that most
00:10:11of that is being caused by government policy i think the failure of government policy is what
00:10:15causes prices to disconnect from underlying demand and supply rationality and two there
00:10:22it is much easier to make the case that capitalism causes bad things that happen abroad like like
00:10:30imperialism colonialism than to say that america itself is racist and terrible the problem with
00:10:34one woke 1.0 is it was self-refuting you looked around the country went i don't know how many
00:10:37racists things seem kind of okay like most of my neighbors seem like good people and it's like okay
00:10:41that refutes that but if you say that american capitalism is causing us to be an imperialist
00:10:46colonialist power abroad backing quote-unquote genocide in gaza which is like the number one
00:10:50issue for the dsa right now you have to wonder how did how did a war 8 000 miles away involving
00:17:49It's just a major wedge issue for them right now.
00:17:52I think that there's another angle that needs to be taken that the right has been very reticent to take, which is weird.
00:17:57I get to the affordability and sort of what needs to be done on that issue in a second, because you're right that obviously there's a lot of political hay that's being made off of all those issues.
00:18:04And I agree with your assessment, Michael, on the unpopularity of the war in Iran and the lack of an overall strategy that's been expressed to the American people and all that kind of stuff.
00:18:12There is one angle that the Republicans have left totally on the table and they're just not taking it for a reason I cannot discern.
00:18:18And that angle is these people, they hate America.
00:18:38Like, these people are not being shy about any of this.
00:18:41And that hatred of America, I think Americans have a gut level willingness to understand that if we show it to them.
00:18:46I mean, if I were the Republicans, I would just, in every one of these campaigns, be showing pictures of Hassan Piker with Abdul El-Sayed and say,
00:18:53this is your democratic party and then play a clip of hassan piker saying this right there's a
00:18:57clip of the kind of stuff that hassan piker says openly and he is a treasured part of the democratic
00:19:02constellation at this point i hate this country so much overall what my favorite flag yeah hezbollah
00:19:09look it up if hezbollah is a terrorist organization america is the top terrorist organization which it
00:19:16is by the way america is the top dog in terrorism one side is always going to be worse than the
00:19:20other side america is worse than iran that much is 100 something i stand on it's not even a0.96
00:19:26comparison america is the greatest terrorist on the planet also you might have noticed something
00:19:30finally framed newspaper from 9 11 the morning of 9 12 the newspaper right there america deserved
00:19:379 11 dude i'm saying it they love walking over like the american flag and the israeli flag side0.69
00:19:43by side they will always like march on it kill those and murder those in the street let the0.97
00:19:48streets let the streets soak in their red capitalist bloods dude they can do whatever1.00
00:19:55the they want with the american flag and the israeli flag i wipe my ass with the american0.99
00:19:59flag i understand the the utter moral depravity of the average american and me from the back okay1.00
00:20:06i the constitution i i wipe my ass with the constitution it's a piece of paper dude shut1.00
00:20:14the fuck up mother constitution and mother this country okay okay so i mean like that seems to me1.00
00:20:21a pretty rich vein for republicans to mine so i if i were doing the republican campaign strategy0.99
00:20:27number one would be pointing out how much these people truly hate the country yeah now again some
00:20:32of these people hide it better than others right like the the they're they're more mainstream
00:20:35democrats who don't say that kind of stuff and so that means that it'll be harder in for example1.00
00:20:38wisconsin would be easier francesca hong had actually won that primary in wisconsin for
00:20:42republicans to win the gubernatorial race over there but that brings us to the sort of affordability
00:20:46thing and this is where you know there's going to be some significant disagreement between you
00:20:50and me michael on this i think that i agree with you cabot that obviously everyone ought to
00:20:54acknowledge things are too expensive they are too expensive of course they mostly got expensive
00:20:58under joe biden right that is the reality of when things got super expensive and then they've gotten
00:21:02marginally more expensive under president trump as well the great jump in expenses did not happen
00:21:07because of the iran war although the iran war contributes at the margins to that i think all
00:21:10of those things are true simultaneously. The question is how you solve that. I don't think
00:21:14that you can solve that by proposing a set of policies that are statist and interventionist
00:21:18in nature, because the Democrats, number one, on a political level will always outbid you there.
00:21:21And number two, it just happens not to be true. If you're the person who wants to bring down
00:21:25prices, there is only one way to bring down prices. And the only way to bring down prices
00:21:29is to skyrocket supply. And the only way to skyrocket supply is to remove things like the
00:21:34tariffs that President Trump likes, to stop subsidizing demand side, which is what subsidies
00:21:38are. That's the stuff you actually have to do. So if you want to bring down the prices, and right
00:21:42now the Republicans are in power, so they're responsible for it, you actually have to promote
00:21:45policies that actually get that thing done that are different than the stuff the Democrats would
00:21:49say, which is mandate, mandate, regulate, subsidize, and all the rest of that kind of stuff. You have
00:21:53to make an overt defense of free markets and attack socialism, not just as a buzzword. Like
00:21:58the polls show, Americans don't even know what socialism means anymore. Bernie Sanders has done
00:22:02an amazing job of basically convincing people that socialism looks like Denmark, when Denmark
00:22:07in reality is a very, very robust capitalist state with extremely high tax rates and social
00:22:12redistributionism. Yeah, I think, look, I think even the socialists don't understand what socialism
00:22:18is and the chief critics of socialism don't understand because I think that Winston Churchill
00:22:22is right that it's a gospel of envy. I think it's actually much more than economics. I think it
00:22:26comes down to Marx's favorite line of literature being from Goethe's Faust saying that everything
00:22:31exists deserves to perish and he wants the ruthless criticism of all that exists. So I mean,
00:22:36there's a deeply spiritual component here. How many popes have we had who've said that a Catholic
00:22:40cannot subscribe even to a moderate form of socialism? You obviously, you know, there is a
00:22:46robust moral argument to be made against socialism, even more than the economic one. Yeah, where I
00:22:51disagree though, Ben, is I do not think that, I don't agree with the solution that, or with the
00:22:57proposition that Republicans can't campaign on economic populism. And putting aside even the
00:23:03efficacy of the policies, which we could debate later, just in terms of the campaigning. If the
00:23:10idea is that you shouldn't engage in the economic populism because the Democrats are always going to
00:23:15offer more, they're always going to offer more free stuff than you're going to offer. So they're
00:23:19always going to beat you at that game. I don't think that's true. And I think the proof is now
00:23:23like 60 years of Republican politics here. The Republicans ran for a very long time against FDR's
00:23:29New Deal. When the Republicans really came into ascendancy with the modern conservative movement,
00:23:33It was under Ronald Reagan who defended the New Deal, who said, I'm a New Deal Democrat.
00:23:38I didn't leave my party. My party left me.
00:23:40Now, Ronald Reagan obviously defended free markets.
00:23:43He had a complicated economic record because he also implemented tariffs.
00:23:46But yeah, he was a free marketeer, no doubt about that.
00:23:48George W. Bush won and won eventually the popular vote in 2004 by campaigning with a little bit of economic populism in there.
00:23:55And President Trump, I think, did this most beautifully in 2016.
00:23:59It's annoying because we have this major debt problem and we need to figure out a way to reform our budget,
00:24:02which begins with our entitlements. But President Trump changed the script. Republicans were getting
00:24:07hammered. The Romney-Ryan campaign got hammered because the Democrats said that Paul Ryan
00:24:13especially is going to throw granny off of a cliff. They campaigned against entitlements
00:24:16and they got crushed. Trump comes out, he says, I'm not touching your social security.
00:24:21I'm not touching your Medicare. And there have been a lot of economic reforms under Trump,
00:24:26some more successful than others. But I think there's a long and storied history
00:24:29of Republicans leaning a little bit into economic populism.
00:25:24If you want to talk about the true uniparty in Washington, the truest uniparty, and they're a bunch of idiots who talk about uniparty in foreign policy, which is not true.0.98
00:25:31There is an actual uniparty, not when it comes to, quote unquote, neoliberalism, but when it comes to the welfare state.0.96
00:25:36That is an actual real uniparty where there are zero votes for a full scale reduction of, say, Social Security or changing of the structure of Medicare and Medicaid.
00:25:44That's the actual thing, which is only the biggest issue in probably the history of American politics that we are just going to run right over.
00:25:50But, you know, again, on a political level, I'm not saying Trump should run on we're privatizing Social Security.
00:25:55What I'm suggesting is that Republicans are going to need to provide an alternative structure that is not just a bunch of subsidies that Democrats can out.
00:26:02And tariffs are not, in fact, a third rail of American politics.
00:26:06In fact, if you look back at President Trump's approval rating, they actually drop below the 50 percent mark on Liberation Day.
00:26:12They never recovered because of the implementation.
00:26:55So pretty much everybody, at least a huge majority of people in the Kalshi markets, which, again, a sponsor of ours, believe that she is going to announce a presidential run before the actual presidential season starts next year.
00:27:05Again, I find it hard to believe that she wouldn't.
00:27:06And if that keeps you up at night, well, you need a Helix-lead mattress.
00:33:04Obviously, you're putting this off probably for presidential reasons or running for Senate or something like that.
00:33:10And so you're putting your career first, and you're going to put this off until, what, 40, 45, 50?
00:33:14And it's very sad because this is the most millennial behavior ever.
00:33:19The millennials were all told, put off getting married, put off having a kid, stay engaged for 75 years, put your career first before everything.
00:33:27And they just are wrong, and they're miserable as a result of it.0.63
00:33:30And AOC now is in favor of her, I don't know, putting off getting married to the guy that she may or may not be still engaged to and obviously wanting to run for president.
00:34:23And then finally we met. He's seven years younger. And then it was time to get married. And we thought, no, we have a little time to just go enjoy the first years of our marriage. Before I knew it, you know, I was 37 and trying to get pregnant and it went very, very poorly.
00:34:39I have no regrets in my life, except not a couple from my young age, but really no regrets.
00:34:45I couldn't be happier in my marriage and with my children.
00:34:48And I had the benefit of adopting my second child.
00:34:51And she is the gift that keeps on giving, man.
00:36:14Just I don't need to see it on video, I guess.
00:36:19Ben, are you going to question their motives and their track?
00:36:22I mean, I get paid to question people's motives and their decision making.
00:36:25So, I mean, it's a bit of a different career path that we've chosen from those who are seeking elected office.
00:36:30But, you know, speaking of kind of the weirdness of Democrats more general, I want to ask Michelle about the race that she is currently going to engage in.
00:37:12We didn't win the establishment Republican endorsement, but we told them from the get-go, whatever happens, we're going to go to the primary because we believe in this candidacy.
00:37:32So and then on the other side, it was a woman, Angie Craig, who's a sitting congresswoman who likes to appear moderate and is not versus a woman who doesn't care at all if she appears moderate because she is not.
00:37:44And she has been Tim Walz's lieutenant governor while all of this fraud has gone on, while the test scores in Minnesota have plummeted, while crime has gone up, while the police have been just strangled of their livelihood in Minneapolis and St. Paul.
00:38:00All of those things happen under Tim Walz and his right hand, Peggy Flanagan.
00:38:04She is now the Democrat nominee. She won in a landslide on that side, which was a little bit surprising to a lot of Minnesotans that she won so handily. I'm telling you, there is a dearth of leadership in Minnesota. And I'm going to encourage everyone in this state to say, stand up. Do not give this woman a promotion.
00:38:36Michelle, I thought the interesting thing on the Democratic side was how really the0.68
00:38:40death knell for Angie Craig was her vote for the Lake and Riley Act when she was in Congress.
00:38:45And it seems like immigration is the biggest issue on the left right now because of the
00:38:50ICE operations that we saw in Minneapolis and elsewhere.
00:38:53And Peggy Flanagan's really main message that she was hitting Angie Craig on was she voted with Republicans for the Lake and Riley Act, which if you actually read the Lake and Riley Act, of course, every single member of Congress should have voted for it.
00:39:04But talk to us about that issue, the role that immigration and ICE and all those things are playing in this race.
00:39:10Well, you're right that Craig had to walk that back and apologize and she regretted that vote.
00:39:14But you're right, the Democrat Party in Minnesota held it over her head and supported her opponent, Peggy Flanagan.
00:39:21So she is going to make all of this a central issue to her campaign, to which I would say this.
00:39:29I wish that it was handled better in the beginning, this Operation Metro Surge.
00:39:35We had two tragic, unnecessary deaths here that were horrible.
00:39:40Tom Homan came in and I think really leveled things out and calmed the situation down.
00:39:45And I've spent a lot of time talking to law enforcement, leadership groups, unions, police chiefs, sheriffs here in Minnesota, a lot of time.
00:39:54And they've been demoralized. But when Tom Homan came in, they like him.
00:40:00They admire him. They respect him. They work well with him. And it really quelled the situation.
00:40:05So, you know, look, I think this idea that you you get one end of the spectrum or the other, they're going to say open borders or, you know, just open borders are fine or immigration control is cruel.
00:40:20What I think is cruel are deaths like Lake and Riley's. And I think it's also cruel to American citizens to hollow out programs at their expense for the expense of people who are not here legally.
00:40:31I think I think we can have two things. I think we can have a secure border and I think we can also have a legal immigration system that I know my grandparents took advantage of and have people vetted coming here legally to be productive members of American society.
00:40:50I just don't see I don't see the other side seeing it that way. They they're making a two sided argument that is with no room for in between.
00:40:58Michelle, how are you feeling about the midterms right now generally?
00:41:01Because I was very, very black-pilled some months ago, and I was interviewing Speaker Johnson, actually.
00:41:08And he said, no, I think we're going to do well.
00:41:20All of a sudden, that on top of the redistricting from the U.S. Supreme Court, Virginia Supreme Court,
00:41:25I'm starting to say, man, you know, that maybe I was wrong. You know, actually, maybe things are looking a lot better for Republicans. For a while, they were running basically even on the generic ballot, even though historically we should get blown out of the water. It's just how the first midterm works in this election cycle.
00:41:41Now, however, I'm feeling a little more black-filled again.
00:41:43It seems to me, you know, we're looking, the economy could be a little shaky and the Democrats have avoided some of the worst nominees.
00:41:52You know, I was really pulling for Francesca Hong.
00:41:54I thought that would really help us out in Wisconsin.
00:42:29And you guys were talking about something earlier that I was listening and taking notes
00:42:32on. And that's this notion that this Hassan Piker led party is so anti-West, so anti-American,
00:42:39so anti-Israel. I don't think we can expose that enough because I think there are more people in
00:42:47America who love this country and who want the best for this country and actually who want hope
00:42:52and do not want to see us in this Marxist lens of oppressed versus oppressor, who want to feel
00:42:58like, you know what? That American dream sounds pretty good. I'm kind of bummed people keep
00:43:03telling me it's dying because it's not. I see it all the time. I'm a product of it.
00:43:09My background is, trust me, the harder I work, the luckier I've gotten. And I've done nothing
00:43:17but work since I was 10 years old. It was the way I was raised. It was the way my parents were
00:43:20raised during the depression. You can do these things. And I'm so tired of this notion that
00:43:26no, only certain people, rich people, white people get privileged. No, that is just so not true.
00:43:33So I think that we need to keep exposing the weaknesses of the other side. It seems like
00:43:38we're constantly on the defense. We've got to go on offense. I agree. I want to get to a very
00:43:45important story, but if anyone has anything else to add to the election, I want to get to the much
00:43:50more important story, which is the WNBA and the fact that it's about to become much more inclusive
00:43:57They're finally, you know, after years that we're going to break the glass ceiling, the super ceiling on top, not just for the women, but for the, you know, the men who think that they're women.
00:44:06Because Inez Cantor Freedom has just come out and made himself a prospect for the WNBA.
00:44:12And the WNBA hasn't exactly shot it down yet.
00:44:16So the question I have for a Republican candidate, and especially for us at Daily Wire, which has made a lot of hay out of Matt's movie, What is a Woman?
00:44:22And the question I have is, are we just beating a dead horse here?
00:44:26Is it, look, we've gotten, Republicans have gotten a lot of mileage out of the trans issue over the years.
00:44:32Are we beating a dead horse or do we need to keep talking about it?
00:44:35Just for your context, here is the future star of the WNBA.
00:44:45After careful consideration on reviewing the current eligibility guidelines, I am officially declaring myself a WNBA prospect.
00:44:52If simply declaring who you are is all that is required, then I meet every single requirement
00:44:57necessary to compete in the WNBA. My team and I have carefully examined the WNBA's eligibility
00:45:03criteria and governing framework surrounding self-identification and inclusion. Based on the
00:45:09current guidelines, I can and am officially declaring my eligibility for the upcoming WNBA
00:45:14draft in May 2027. I am definitely not here to mock, make fun of, or to suspect any community
00:46:19Lisa Leslie, Cheryl Swoops, Sue Bird, Rebecca Lobo, that whole crew that came through and it was a celebration of women distinguishing themselves as athletes.
00:46:32Well, now you're saying, OK, are you going to accept trans women, i.e., for those who still have a problem following this, biological men who identify as women?
00:46:44can they play in the WNBA? And you're hearing coaches and even this commissioner dodging this
00:46:51by saying exclusion is never the answer. Hold on a minute. Hold on a minute. Let me give the
00:46:57Sophie Cunningham point. Hold on just a minute. You know what? Exclusion is always a part of sport
00:47:05at every level. You know, once you get to high school, you might not make the team because
00:47:11someone might be better than you you might not make division one but you could make division two
00:47:17because you can compete at that level but not a division i feel like you're talking to me right
00:47:21now directly i feel very same for the men's division and that's it's as simple and cut and
00:47:26dried as that yes no you're right i get this point i feel like you're bringing back these
00:47:30traumas from high school of just being excluded from sports did you not get picked i did i was
00:47:35i was michael didn't even try out michael's michael's experience with getting cut was getting
00:47:39cut from the school play when he was auditioning. He was not doing the football. I was never cut
00:47:43from the school play. That's a calumny. He's often cut from the school play.
00:47:47But this point is so important on all of the DEI inclusion
00:47:51stuff, which is you always have to exclude.
00:47:56Human life involves exclusion. Having a nation
00:47:59involves excluding other people who are not part of the nation. Having a1.00
00:48:03team involves excluding people who aren't going to make the team.0.88
00:48:06having single sex bathrooms or sports teams or leagues or schools involves excluding the other0.60
00:48:13sex. That's just, of course, you know, this is a finite world and it involves discrimination.0.92
00:48:18So like you have to do it and you have to do it in a good way. I guess on this point, the left
00:48:23will say, you know, you right-wingers, you're being so cynical and opportunistic here. You don't
00:48:28really care about women's sports. And speaking for myself, you obviously do. You've worked in it. But1.00
00:48:31for me, I don't care about women's sports. Couldn't possibly care any less. It interests1.00
00:48:36me, not at all. And I think most of them probably shouldn't even exist other than to keep the ladies1.00
00:48:40happy. But the reason that I care about this issue is as a matter of justice. If there is
00:48:48going to be a women's sports league, they need to be protected and they need to win their trophies0.99
00:48:53and they need to not have things stolen from them. Sorry, go ahead. No, that's exactly right.1.00
00:49:00It's pretty simple. Look, I remember being a little, little girl. My dad came to me. He had
00:49:05his son and three daughters and he came to me and he said guess what just happened title nine passed
00:49:10this means you're going to be able to play sports in high school and college if you want your mom
00:49:15never got to do that your aunties never got to do that he was so excited he became my basketball
00:49:19all my sisters and i we coached our basketball teams um because title nine passed which was to0.97
00:49:27give women a more equal opportunity in certain things in college and elsewhere in life.
00:49:35I would say to you that Title IX was one of the most important pieces of, you know,
00:49:41it was an incredibly important development in society. You talk to women in the C-suite all
00:49:48over corporate America and they'll say, I played sports. It taught me leadership, taught me
00:49:53teamwork, taught me competitiveness, all of those things. So I think this has been, I don't know
00:49:59that I would have become a sports reporter without Title IX, right? So this is what we fought for.
00:50:04And now we're just going to kind of say, yeah, that was all good, but we got to be compassionate,
00:50:09let men compete too. So I think this Ennis Cantor freedom thing pushes them on this issue.
00:50:17Are you going to be exclusionary or are you going to be all inclusive? Because if you are,
00:50:23you have to let him try out and you have to let him make a team
00:53:32We have had Republican senators from Minnesota not so long ago, before the Democrats stole it in that election with, anyway, a dispute for another time.0.76
01:00:14You know, in any case, the movie itself is, you know, again, a reminder that if radical Muslims got control of our of our universities, our politics, things would not go so well.0.94
01:00:26And we're seeing that evidence like everywhere.0.96
01:00:28It's it is amazing how, you know, when you say true things in a narrative fashion, it tends to be reflected in reality.
01:00:34So while we were cutting the trailer for this film, you saw a mass migrant invasion of Souta on the on the coast of Morocco.
01:00:42While this was happening, you saw a wide spate of terrorist attacks.
01:00:45You saw Abdul El-Sayed, who's a terrorist supporter, being nominated for the Senate in Michigan.0.88
01:00:49The reality of a threat of radical Islam is quite real, and it is there.0.57
01:00:53And pretending that it's not there, it's not going to get anybody anywhere.0.98
01:00:55And this is kind of a fun and kind of popcorn-y movie that makes the message clear.
01:03:32And some of those people live in the West because we decided to allow mass migration into the West from a lot of countries where this stuff is taught.0.86
01:03:38And again, we can say and I do say that there are reformed Muslims or moderate Muslims who oppose all of that.0.96
01:03:44And that's true. But unfortunately, you know, there are 57 members of the Organization of Islamic Countries and of the majority Muslim countries in the OIC.0.94
01:03:52Precisely zero are actually multi-ethnic tolerant democracies that really like the Western way of life.0.74
01:04:00It seems that there might be some problems with importing a lot of people from those countries to our countries and then assuming that they're just going to assimilate well.0.80
01:04:09And when you ignore that, you end up with London, you end up with Dearborn, you end up with all these other places.0.90
01:04:14And people who have experienced this firsthand, like Ayaan Hirsi Ali, speak pretty openly about this.
01:04:18And the fact that we're all supposed to ignore it and pretend that it's not happening and then we just kind of throw words like Islamophobia, I don't know.
01:04:25I mean, it depends on what Islam is saying.0.73
01:04:28And if Islam is making the claim that everyone ought to be Muslim and that war by the sword is the way to do this, then I feel like being phobic of that particular proposition.0.84
01:04:35You want to come out and say that that's not what Islam argues?0.93