The Michael Knowles Show - September 03, 2026


Ep. 2052 - Possible Lindsay Clancy Copycat Killer Emerges In Illinois


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00:01:31.000 trial of child slayer Lindsay Clancy as the murders appear to inspire a copycat killing 0.98
00:01:36.180 in Illinois. Then a major new development in the trial of Charlie Kirk's alleged murderer
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00:01:52.760 I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:55.080 welcome back to the show the department of justice is suing a kansas city public school
00:02:17.140 the kansas city public schools i should say for trans and kids behind their parents backs you
00:02:22.460 thought it was over. You thought that was three years ago, four years ago. That was woke one,
00:02:26.220 right? AOC says woke one was crazy. Still going on. It's still going on now. And now anytime
00:02:32.620 anything is crazy, I just call it woke one. Oh man, that's sunset. That's just like woke one.
00:02:37.340 That's crazy. Well, we're still in it. Okay. First up though, we are now entering day six
00:02:41.880 of the jury deliberations in the Lindsay Clancy murder trial. This should have been over after
00:02:48.620 six seconds, but now we've gone into six days because crazy women on the jury are convinced 1.00
00:02:54.300 that she's innocent. Presumably, that's the only thing that I can infer. Obviously, we don't know 1.00
00:02:58.120 the internal deliberations of the jury, but we have seen the social phenomenon of a ton of crazy 1.00
00:03:03.220 women, like lots and lots of them on social media, in front of the courthouse, bringing their kids, 0.98
00:03:08.100 defending this woman who murdered her children. And now she might get off the hook because of that. 1.00
00:03:15.080 Every second that the trial goes on, every second that the jury deliberates, 0.99
00:03:18.900 it is more and more likely that this lady is going to get off the hook. 0.99
00:03:21.720 Meanwhile, you have conservative journalists going in and interviewing 1.00
00:03:24.840 lots of women about this trial. 0.99
00:03:27.440 Here is Caitlin Bennett doing Yeoman's work, 0.99
00:03:30.040 interviewing what women are thinking. 0.62
00:03:31.780 As this whole phenomenon has gone on,
00:03:35.320 here is how women are thinking of Lindsay Clancy.
00:03:37.960 Do you stand with her, yes or no? 0.85
00:03:40.080 I don't think she did it.
00:03:41.180 Yes.
00:03:41.680 We feel she's very sleep-deprived.
00:03:43.240 her job as a labor and delivery nurse working night shifts and three children is a lot a lot
00:03:48.920 do you have children yes would you ever hurt them yes and no as a as a mom or as a dad i think that
00:03:55.640 you are not perfect so what are the consequences she should face for this obviously she's already
00:04:00.840 in a wheelchair he should go to jail for negligence he was he needs to take care of his kids and that 0.65
00:04:06.760 was his responsibility is this any of your girlfriends this is your girlfriend i think
00:04:12.600 you have to do some reflection on that i just have seen a little bit on tiktok of the case i'm
00:04:18.480 watching it on tiktok or like the live streams i'm like where are you getting your news that
00:04:23.080 the defense might not be getting theirs i don't but what did you say tiktok okay so it's not just
00:04:29.820 the 21 year old purple haired septum piercing lesbian antifa chick who's saying this sort of 1.00
00:04:36.800 stuff. It's not just the political radical. It's the grandma. It's the bougie Midwest mom. 0.96
00:04:42.160 It's the yoga aunt. It's a wide spectrum of women who are saying, well, she was sleep deprived.
00:04:51.980 She was sleep deprived. They're not even really making the argument that Lindsay Clancy had
00:04:55.920 postpartum depression anymore because Lindsay Clancy was never diagnosed with postpartum
00:05:00.700 depression. And as I pointed out at the beginning of this saga, her youngest child that she murdered
00:05:05.720 was eight months old. And you usually don't have postpartum depression eight months in.
00:05:12.040 Not to mention that the murders were methodically planned. She sent the husband out of the house.
00:05:16.600 She did it in a very gruesome way, took a fair bit of time to do so. So now what they're saying is,
00:05:24.520 well, yeah, okay, forget about postpartum depression. She was sleep deprived. It's hard.
00:05:28.000 I mean, nobody's perfect. And hasn't she suffered enough? She's paralyzed because after she killed
00:05:34.320 her kids, she jumped out a window and hurt her legs. So, you know, I mean, when you think about
00:05:39.120 it, right? And what is a common thread here? They say, well, we're following the case on TikTok.
00:05:43.400 Here is now what women are posting on TikTok apropos of the Lindsay Clancy case.
00:05:50.920 It's a, for those of you just listening, it's a woman walking with her baby and then there's a
00:05:58.840 smash cut, and they swap out the baby for a doll, and the mothers throw the babies down the stairs,
00:06:05.460 throw them into a laundry machine, put them into the dishwasher, drop them on top of the stairs. 0.82
00:06:10.020 Ha ha ha ha ha. And the caption is, postpartum anxiety be like, ha ha ha ha ha. So all of this
00:06:16.360 is really, really horrifying. A lot of people have suggested that this is radicalizing young
00:06:21.920 men on how they look about women generally. And you're hearing cries from people saying,
00:06:29.100 okay, we need to ban women from social media. We need to ban women from voting. 0.97
00:06:32.380 We need to lock up a lot of women in St. Islay, and so on and so forth. 1.00
00:06:36.820 But let's bring it back to the realm of the practical and the judicious and the prudential 1.00
00:06:41.940 and the responsible. We can't just write this off. All of these crazy women, it's not just
00:06:47.880 one or two. They're showing up en masse to the courthouse, posting all over social media, 1.00
00:06:51.340 doing all these interviews, responding to all of these surveys. There is something
00:06:55.200 wrong with women here. It's not all women. Hashtag not all women, but there is something wrong 1.00
00:07:01.220 in the psychology of women here. And people should have seen this coming 1.00
00:07:04.500 because this is a direct outgrowth of abortion. Mother Teresa said, what, 30 years ago now?
00:07:11.200 She said at the United Nations that you'll never have peace in the world as long as you have 0.53
00:07:14.080 abortion. Because if a mother can kill her own children, there's nothing that people will not do. 1.00
00:07:18.520 and the pro-abortion movement went from this idea that abortion is really tragic and sad and
00:07:25.160 terrible and no one wants an abortion but sometimes circumstances demand that you sort of have to have
00:07:29.340 one it grew from that into okay maybe we need abortion even in a more uh elective way more
00:07:36.420 focused on women's autonomy you know it's my right to choose it's my body my choice but still no one
00:07:42.340 has those late-term abortions that's crazy every all the abortions are really just in the first 0.69
00:07:47.360 trimester. Then you got more recently states passing all of these laws, legalizing abortion
00:07:52.820 up until the moment of birth. And the social conservatives at the time said, there is nothing
00:07:59.180 stopping the left and the pro-abortion movement from advocating for fourth trimester abortion.
00:08:06.520 This was considered a kind of a dark joke, but there's a hint of truth in jokes. They said,
00:08:10.400 if you can kill a baby five minutes before he's born, then there's nothing stopping you from 0.98
00:08:14.500 killing a baby five minutes or five months or five years after he's born. If we accept the principle 0.93
00:08:21.340 that a mother can murder her kids because of how she is feeling about herself, then there is no
00:08:27.700 limiting principle here. There's nothing to stop her from killing her young kids. That's what 0.95
00:08:32.120 Lindsay Clancy did. And notice that the women who are defending Lindsay Clancy are the exact same 0.66
00:08:38.160 women who defend abortion, and they are defending Lindsay Clancy on the exact same grounds, with the
00:08:44.140 exact same arguments. Well, she was really upset. Well, it's not entirely her choice.
00:08:51.400 Well, I mean, even if she technically made the choice, she was being so put upon by her husband,
00:08:58.100 she wasn't, and by society, she wasn't. And she wasn't totally in command of her wills,
00:09:04.640 no accountability whatsoever. It's all the same stuff. And who are you to judge? And she's
00:09:08.920 suffered enough, and there should be no problem here. So I don't think that we need to lock up
00:09:13.680 all women in insane asylum, though we could lock a few of them up. I don't think that we need to 1.00
00:09:18.060 take away the right to vote from women. I don't think that's really practical or anything like
00:09:21.660 that. I don't think that we even need to ban women entirely from social media. But here is
00:09:25.740 one very practical thing we could do. We could ban people generally, which basically just means
00:09:32.960 women, from posting their kids on social media. This is something that's bothered me for a really,
00:09:38.520 really long time. And it's not just women who do it, but it's mostly women who do it. 1.00
00:09:41.400 they post their kids on social media. They need to stop that. That's very wrong to do. 1.00
00:09:48.100 There are a lot of creeps on social media and your kid never chose to be famous and your kid
00:09:52.160 is not just an instrument for you to get likes from strangers and your kid is not just an
00:09:56.040 instrument for you to become famous and live out your childhood fantasies.
00:10:00.020 We should pass laws that stop people from putting their kids on social media.
00:10:05.220 No good comes from putting your kid on social media. Lots of potentially bad things come from
00:10:09.820 putting your kids on social media. And the latest social media trend involving kids is women 1.00
00:10:14.520 empathizing with Lindsay Clancy, pretending to murder their children. That's all over TikTok. 0.67
00:10:19.620 TikTok, where a lot of these women are getting their information following the case. 0.60
00:10:22.920 That's a really practical thing. And can anybody make the contrary argument to me?
00:10:29.920 Can anybody tell me why it would be wrong to say we're going to
00:10:34.180 to enforce a law that says that you can't post your kids all over social media.
00:10:40.160 It seems to me that only good would come from that. No bad would come from that.
00:10:44.000 And it would help to mitigate some of this mass psychosis that you're seeing, this social contagion
00:10:49.580 of people who are now empathizing with a woman who murdered her kids in cold blood.
00:10:54.060 You are seeing a very practical consequence of that social contagion.
00:10:57.220 There now appears to be a Lindsey Clancy copycat in Illinois.
00:11:01.460 A lot of people are bringing up the big trial that's playing out right now in Massachusetts.
00:11:08.520 They're talking about the Lindsay Clancy trial, especially after this came out.
00:11:11.840 A lot of people are saying, oh my gosh, this sounds so similar because, guys, we've been
00:11:16.620 talking about the Lindsay Clancy trial that's happening nationwide.
00:11:19.720 It's the biggest trial that's happening right now, and it's been playing out for weeks.
00:11:23.960 And so for a lot of these folks who are reacting to what's happened in their backyards, they're
00:11:29.320 immediately you know reminded of what's playing out um at the national scale this is just absolutely
00:11:35.540 devastating that this could be another lindsey clancy situation this is a mother who killed her
00:11:40.220 two-year-old kid you never think it's gonna hit so close to home then tried to kill herself so
00:11:44.620 it's almost exactly the same thing i mentioned yesterday my little update from europe now that
00:11:49.420 i'm back i'm had secret project is mostly filmed back here i've slept for about 45 minutes in the
00:11:54.220 last week. But I mentioned yesterday on the show that the clearest analog to what's going on with
00:12:01.260 Lindsay Clancy is the OJ case. One, because you have an obvious murderer who very possibly will
00:12:08.380 get off because of a crazy jury. But also because in the OJ case, what that represented was black 0.93
00:12:17.560 jurors voting to let a black criminal off the hook, not on the basis of his innocence,
00:12:23.680 but on the basis of the racial ideology, specifically at a moment when the racial
00:12:29.700 ideologues had gotten everything that they thought they wanted. That's what happened with OJ. You had
00:12:34.660 the civil rights movement. You had the black power movement. You had political correctness
00:12:39.020 come up in the early 1990s. You had the whole racial ideology curriculum come into the schools.
00:12:43.840 They got everything that they said that they wanted. You had affirmative action, 0.56
00:12:46.920 and all the rest of it. The New Great Society, the civil rights laws, and still that didn't 0.71
00:12:52.700 solve whatever the black activists thought the problem would be. Be that poverty, be that 0.61
00:12:58.320 racial identity, be that issues of social solidarity, whatever. It didn't solve the
00:13:04.600 problem. The left-wing policies, the left-wing ideology didn't solve the problem. And so they
00:13:09.000 had to ask for more. They got everything they wanted. It didn't fix the problem. So what did
00:13:12.740 they ask for? They said, we need to literally get away with murder. That's the only way we can be
00:13:16.900 equal. It's the exact same thing playing out here. We have now had 50 years since second wave
00:13:22.980 feminism came about. Women have gotten everything that they said they wanted, 100 years since 0.89
00:13:27.780 first wave feminism. And women have gotten the right to vote, certainly. They've gotten the 1.00
00:13:34.120 liberal divorce laws they asked for. They've gotten to kill their kids through abortion, 1.00
00:13:36.880 which they asked for. They've gotten to get into universities. Now there are more women in 0.99
00:13:41.780 universities than men. They've gotten into the workplace because of affirmative action. Now 1.00
00:13:46.340 there are more women in the workplace than men are. They've gotten into the military. They've 1.00
00:13:49.460 gotten everything. They've gotten every single thing that they said they wanted. But women are
00:13:52.720 actually less happy than ever. So because the activists, the feminists have succeeded, 1.00
00:13:59.220 and because that hasn't worked, what are they saying? They're saying the exact same thing that
00:14:01.960 the black activists said during OJ. They said, well, you need to let us literally get away with 0.69
00:14:05.580 murder. There's nothing left to ask for. You need to let us literally get away with murder.
00:14:10.840 And of course, that won't make anyone happy either. That will only make the problem worse.
00:14:16.340 So there are kind of two extremes here, which is there is this misogynist idea that crops up. 1.00
00:14:23.440 It says all these women are completely insane, and they need to be totally shut up from society.
00:14:27.580 And then there's this other idea which says that women can never do anything wrong. 0.99
00:14:31.460 And any crime that a woman seems to commit is really a man's fault somehow. 0.98
00:14:36.000 It's the same thing with the black activism. 0.98
00:14:38.020 Anytime a black criminal commits a crime, they say, well, it was really society's fault. 0.96
00:14:40.840 It was really the white supremacist structures of our institutional racism that made them do it. 0.98
00:14:44.900 Same thing with the women here.
00:14:45.940 So it's impossible, according to this ideology, from the very premises, it's impossible for the criminal to have committed a crime.
00:14:55.460 And the real answer is clearly a via media, which is, no, in order to respect women, you have to recognize that they must have some accountability sometimes.
00:15:07.640 This would be the clearest case. 1.00
00:15:09.060 So it seemed pretty clear to me that this lady needs defry. 1.00
00:15:12.340 She needs to be punished to the greatest extent of the law. 0.99
00:15:15.940 But we also need to take measures to contain the social contagion,
00:15:22.240 which is spreading through the empathy for Lindsay Clancy and even copycat murders.
00:15:26.440 And this gets into the idea of broken windows policing.
00:15:31.360 This gets into the idea that when you don't punish the little things,
00:15:34.140 the problem metastasizes.
00:15:35.580 You're seeing that especially in the murder trial for Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin.
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00:17:03.380 Listen, Charlie Kirk's alleged murderer has finally entered his plea in the case.
00:17:08.480 Don't forget, everything that we've been seeing so far, the state gathering evidence,
00:17:12.180 the preliminary hearing, all of this, that is all prelude to determine whether or not the case will
00:17:18.860 even go to trial. We have just discovered that the case will go to trial. The judge has observed
00:17:25.820 that the state has a lot of evidence, to put it mildly and diplomatically, the state has a lot
00:17:32.440 of evidence against Tyler Robinson. And so the case will go to trial. Tyler Robinson has
00:17:38.120 expectedly entered his not guilty plea. The judge here is Tony Graff. He said that Robinson will
00:17:45.220 stand trial on all counts. There's seven charges against Tyler Robinson. That includes the most
00:17:52.400 serious one, which is aggravated murder, felony discharge of a firearm causing serious bodily
00:17:58.080 injury. The defense was trying to get that first charge thrown out. Not the murder charge, but the
00:18:04.200 enhancement, the aggravated murder charge. Because the defense said, quote, there was no evidence
00:18:10.320 that anyone else was threatened while Tyler Robinson murdered Charlie Kirk.
00:18:16.620 That was the argument from Tyler Robinson's defense was not, Tyler Robinson got set up.
00:18:23.380 Tyler Robinson's a patsy.
00:18:25.280 Tyler Robinson wasn't even in Utah.
00:18:27.560 Tyler Robinson's never even heard of Charlie Kirk.
00:18:29.320 That wasn't the argument.
00:18:31.380 The very narrowly tailored argument before the judge ruled that this trial will progress
00:18:37.320 was, well, hey, there's no evidence that Tyler meant to kill anyone else
00:18:42.480 while he murdered Charlie.
00:18:44.160 That was basically the argument that the defense was advancing,
00:18:47.080 which is, again, if you've been following the murder trial of Tyler Robinson on TikTok, 0.78
00:18:52.880 the same place that a lot of these chickies are following the murder trial of Lindsay Clancy,
00:18:57.560 you might not have understood just how narrowly tailored the defense is. 0.93
00:19:02.680 And the reason for that is the defense lawyers have certain ethical and professional obligations
00:19:08.660 that people on TikTok do not have. They can't make totally ridiculous specious arguments.
00:19:15.140 They need to operate within the realm of the facts that are presented, 0.68
00:19:19.800 and they need to try to get the best outcome for their client.
00:19:22.300 And for Tyler Robinson here, I guess the best outcome for him is that you get some crazy jury, like in the case of the Lindsey Clancy trial, and maybe he gets off the hook or is a mistrial or whatever.
00:19:33.920 But more likely, if I were the lawyer, if I were the defense attorney for Tyler Robinson, I would realize, okay, there's a lot of evidence here.
00:19:41.540 And we've admitted into the court Tyler Robinson's alleged confession.
00:19:47.080 We've admitted into the court the fact that Tyler Robinson allegedly turned himself in.
00:19:50.500 We've admitted into the court the alleged text messages between Tyler Robinson and the trainee boyfriend and the alleged discord messages in which he is confessing to the murder.
00:19:59.020 We've admitted all of that and not really questioned that.
00:20:01.640 So the best thing we can do is keep Tyler Robinson from being executed by the state.
00:20:07.220 The only way that he gets the death penalty is if they can prove that he was threatening the lives of other people while he was murdering Charlie Kirk.
00:20:15.660 So really, the best argument the defense can make here is, no, no, no, he was really only
00:20:19.760 threatening the life of Charlie Kirk, whom he murdered. But the other people were not in danger,
00:20:23.460 which could mean that Tyler Robinson goes to prison for the rest of his life, but at least
00:20:26.660 he will not be killed. Do not forget, the defense attorney for Tyler Robinson
00:20:31.780 explicitly rejected the internet conspiracy theories that suggest that he wasn't part of
00:20:38.740 this at all. Explicitly rejected this months ago. Said, yeah, we just consider that noise.
00:20:43.460 We're dealing in the realm of facts here. So the thing that's really frustrating about this case
00:20:48.800 is not that it seems like justice will not be served. I would say if I were a gambling man
00:20:54.340 here, the justice system is imperfect. But if I were a gambling man, I would say probably
00:20:58.000 something like justice will eventually be served in the Tyler Robinson case.
00:21:04.520 The thing that's really frustrating for those, especially people who love Charlie,
00:21:08.540 is it's going to take forever. It's going to take forever. We are now coming up on the one-year
00:21:15.040 anniversary of Charlie's murder. We are just now reaching the point when the judge says,
00:21:20.240 okay, this case can go to trial. This is going to take forever. And I suppose that's built into
00:21:30.060 the system that the wheels of justice turn slowly so that we can be judicious and not get carried
00:21:34.820 away with our passions, but this is really, really slow. In any case, the political takeaway from
00:21:40.780 this beyond the facts of the case itself is the way that we got to Tyler Robinson allegedly pulling
00:21:47.960 the trigger in Utah, murdering Charlie Kirk, the way we got there was not overnight. It's not just
00:21:53.420 because one guy went crazy. It's not even just because of one political issue, this tranny issue, 1.00
00:21:58.520 which seems to have been at the heart of Charlie's murder. 1.00
00:22:02.460 The way that we got there is because for 10 years or more,
00:22:07.580 left-wing radicals have been threatening
00:22:10.140 and attacking conservative speakers on campus,
00:22:13.820 and they've basically never been held to account for it.
00:22:17.520 When people attack Ann Coulter on college campuses
00:22:20.800 giving a speech,
00:22:21.680 when they have to shut down the city of Berkeley
00:22:23.860 because Ben Shapiro is talking,
00:22:25.800 Ben, who's a pretty, he's a pretty mild-mannered guy.
00:22:28.980 They have to shut down Berkeley in, what was it, 2016, 2017?
00:22:33.420 When Riley Gaines is being chased into a locker room trying to give a speech.
00:22:38.620 When I myself, I was attacked a couple times giving speeches and doing debates at college campuses.
00:22:44.720 That's a small number of all of the total incidents.
00:22:46.780 Those are just the ones that come to mind right off the top of my head.
00:22:49.980 When the leftists who perpetrate those crimes basically always get off
00:22:54.900 where they get a little slap on the wrist.
00:22:56.860 Even the one at Pittsburgh at my event,
00:23:00.040 two Antifa agents throw an explosive,
00:23:01.980 very seriously injure a female cop. 0.74
00:23:04.460 The wife gets off the hook almost completely. 0.74
00:23:07.220 She had to do community service.
00:23:08.400 And the guy had a few years in the can, 0.84
00:23:10.440 then what goes to a halfway house
00:23:11.520 and his charge was reduced to obstruction of justice.
00:23:14.240 These people committed attempted murder.
00:23:16.700 They very seriously injured a police officer.
00:23:19.220 This was investigated by the FBI
00:23:21.040 and prosecuted by the federal government.
00:23:23.420 and even in that case throwing explosive into a crowd you get what a few years in the clink
00:23:30.000 and the wife gets off scot-free well what did you think was going to happen this is broken
00:23:37.000 windows policing back in the giuliani era they implemented in new york broken windows policing
00:23:42.400 broken windows policing is the exact opposite of what the left wants what the left says is only
00:23:46.760 prosecute the serious crimes and don't even prosecute those let's let the drug dealers off
00:23:51.860 the hook. Let's let the petty muggers and assailants and vandals off the hook, because
00:23:57.040 we're just going to focus on the real serious crimes like rape and murder. But actually,
00:24:00.020 we're going to let them off the hook too, because we want to abolish prisons.
00:24:02.740 But their theory is, well, if you don't focus on the small crimes, then you can put a lot of focus
00:24:08.060 on the big crimes, and that'll make the community safer. But that's not how it actually works.
00:24:11.920 The way it actually works is, if you ignore the little crimes, then those criminals are going to
00:24:17.800 be the ones to commit the serious crimes. In other words, if you catch the guy who's
00:24:23.120 graffitiing buildings, who's breaking windows, who's committing petty theft, who's doing simple
00:24:29.100 muggings, if you catch that guy, you've probably prevented a murder down the road. Because the
00:24:36.400 number of criminals in society is relatively small, and they don't all start out as murderers
00:24:39.960 and rapists. They start out with small crimes. So if you nab the small criminals, if you keep
00:24:44.540 things real tight on all of those little things and the little things where the rot begins,
00:24:48.180 you're going to have hugely outsized effects on the serious crimes.
00:24:53.560 It's one of the many pities, as we reflect on the one-year anniversary of Charlie's murder.
00:24:59.340 Had the authorities stopped the violent left when they were just pushing people around and
00:25:04.740 chasing the conservative speakers down the hallway and even squirting weird substances,
00:25:10.280 or had they just stopped them there, would a leftist assailant have felt empowered to go
00:25:18.640 pull a trigger in Utah? I think very likely not. And so that's got to be the lesson. The lesson
00:25:24.540 has to be to double and triple and quadruple down on the lower level offense. That's the only way
00:25:30.960 you stop the higher level offense. Okay. Speaking of the DOJ, speaking of the justice system,
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00:27:09.060 Donate today. You thought it was all over. The Department of Justice now has United States of
00:27:16.540 America versus Unified School District number 500 in the state of Kansas. What is the story here?
00:27:24.280 This lawsuit alleges that Kansas City and Kansas Public Schools violated federal parental rights
00:27:30.980 laws through internal guidance that allows students to request that parents be excluded
00:27:36.040 from transition-related planning and that their transgender or gender non-conforming status not
00:27:42.240 be disclosed to them. It's all nice technical language to say that the Kansas City schools
00:27:47.660 transed kids behind their parents' backs. And it wasn't a million years ago either. 0.55
00:27:53.800 It's ongoing. Here is the Assistant Attorney General, Harmeet Dillon, explaining the case.
00:27:58.740 the justice department is filing what it calls a first of its kind lawsuit challenging the school
00:28:05.460 district's secret gender transition policies now according to the lawsuit the school district
00:28:11.180 quote directs staff to develop and implement transitioning plans for children's so-called
00:28:17.400 gender identity without informing or obtaining consent from their parents this is a really
00:28:23.460 important lawsuit for us and the point i wanted to emphasize which i think i did is that it's the
00:28:28.520 first of many. I want there to be a very clear message to every school district in the United
00:28:34.380 States. They are on notice that if they violate FERPA and PPRA, the United States Department of
00:28:41.560 Justice stands ready to protect the rights of parents and the rights of pupils to privacy,
00:28:47.900 dignity, and parental rights. So great stuff from Harmeet, great stuff from the DOJ. And it's
00:28:54.080 shocking, even this point that she's emphasizing. She says, this is the first lawsuit of its kind.
00:28:58.520 this craziness started seven years ago seven eight years ago my second speaking tour with
00:29:08.600 young americas foundation after this show started after my blank book reasons for democrats my
00:29:12.900 second speaking tour was titled men are not women and other uncomfortable truths that's how far back
00:29:18.220 this issue was beginning that was seven or eight years ago matt walsh's movie what is a woman was
00:29:23.700 what, six years ago? Something like that? Six, seven years ago? Six, seven years ago?
00:29:29.940 We're still dealing with this because the left is still pushing it. And this is the first lawsuit
00:29:34.740 of its kind. Now, obviously, the conservatives were out of power for four years in there,
00:29:38.960 right around that time, right after the 2020 election. But now I'm really glad to see the
00:29:43.880 administration jumping in on this because we need to ground these school districts into the dirt.
00:29:50.380 and we need to tell voters out of the midterm elections that the left trying to distance itself
00:29:55.580 from woke one is a complete lie it's totally disingenuous when AOC comes out and says
00:30:01.460 woke one was crazy she won't she won't explain how it was crazy she won't specify anything that
00:30:08.380 was crazy about it because nothing has changed at all I'm now taking this phrase I'm just using it
00:30:13.480 all over the place sweet little Alisa gives me some lasagna at night girl this lasagna it's so
00:30:19.120 delicious. Oh, it's just like woke one. Oh, it's just, you know, it's crazy. Oh, man. Hey,
00:30:23.940 you guys see that Yankee game last night? Man, it was just like woke one. It was crazy.
00:30:28.540 That is the kind of vagueness with which the left is using this phrase woke one,
00:30:34.180 which never went away. Woke one and woke two are identical. Here's some proof. Here's the
00:30:39.200 new Democrat candidate, the new reformed non-woke, putting that behind us, James Tallarico,
00:30:47.000 ostensibly straight white guy down in texas christian man he says here is a james tallarico
00:30:54.520 describing capitalism as an oppressive system the multi um you know multifaceted threat of a climate
00:31:02.760 crisis an economic crisis and a in a social justice crisis i think that kind of new deal
00:31:10.100 effort um would would be the only approach to start to address all three in a thoughtful
00:31:14.400 and meaningful way.
00:31:17.020 Good for you, Jim.
00:31:18.600 Thank you very much.
00:31:20.460 The second question, communities of
00:31:22.340 color receive the most
00:31:24.140 harm from the impacts of climate change
00:31:26.600 and yet receive the least
00:31:28.180 government support to deal with it.
00:31:31.100 Tell us about one
00:31:32.320 of the committees you are on
00:31:34.080 or hope to be on and the most
00:31:36.300 important actions that committee could take
00:31:38.480 to fight for climate justice
00:31:40.320 and mitigate the impacts of climate change
00:31:42.720 for all Texans.
00:31:44.400 Yeah. And I'm so thankful that you asked this question and also thankful that young activists have really drawn the link between climate change and white supremacy and capitalism in our country. And I think only in the ways that all three of those oppressive systems work together, are we going to be able to begin the process of dismantling them?
00:32:04.500 It's the only way. The only way to stop the sun monster from bringing in the end times
00:32:09.840 is to dismantle whiteness and capitalism. But Woke One was crazy, wasn't it? This is 0.97
00:32:16.320 Tallarico speaking, I believe, to the Sierra Club, the environmentalist club. It's all the same.
00:32:21.920 It's a great new ad out from the Lone Star Pack. Because Dems are trying to draw this hard line.
00:32:26.260 No, no, no. Okay, yeah, we got our AOCs. We got our Ilhan Omars. We got our Rashida Thleibs.
00:32:30.080 but we all don't worry we're also the party of james tallarico okay we're we're a little more
00:32:35.320 moderate we're a little more down the middle here is ilhan omar and james tallarico side by side
00:32:41.440 two months apart same idea environmental racism is real a link between climate change and white
00:32:49.360 supremacy and capitalism these systems of oppression are linked all three of those
00:32:54.660 oppressive systems work together we must begin the work of dismantling we're going to be able
00:32:58.980 to begin the process of dismantling them.
00:33:00.900 The whole system of oppression.
00:33:02.760 Ilhan Omar's words.
00:33:04.120 Two months later, James Tallarico's words.
00:33:06.420 He's not leading Texas.
00:33:07.800 He's repeating the same socialist script.
00:33:10.260 Lone Star Liberty Pack is responsible
00:33:11.420 for the content of this ad.
00:33:12.720 Okay, please excuse the TV-ness of this ad.
00:33:15.220 I love old TV political ads.
00:33:17.380 James Tallarico, wrong for Texas,
00:33:20.940 wrong for the environment and America
00:33:24.620 and hot dogs and fireworks. 0.88
00:33:27.800 wrong for you know i love it's very they're very it's very blunt messaging it's mostly to boomers
00:33:31.740 in an old-timey way but the the substance of this ad is perfect it points out that the the most
00:33:38.960 deceptive thing about james tallarico is that he passes for a straight white man again i know you
00:33:43.860 know his girlfriend she lives in canada she goes to another school she but he ostensibly he's a
00:33:48.380 straight white man and a christian and yet he's not i guess he's a man i guess he's white yeah
00:33:57.020 You know, he wants to dismantle whiteness, but maybe he's stray. 0.52
00:33:59.940 He's certainly not a Christian in a meaningful sense of the word. 0.90
00:34:02.680 But he's exactly the same as Ilhan Omar. 0.82
00:34:07.600 He's exactly the same as Hassan Piker. 0.88
00:34:09.700 There's no difference between this.
00:34:10.920 And this was the point when a few weeks ago we were watching those Democrat primaries
00:34:16.140 between the DSA radical socialist candidates and the Democrat establishment.
00:34:20.680 you had conservatives variously apoplectic and relieved when either the establishment democrat
00:34:28.280 would win or the dsa candidate would beat the establishment democrat and i i don't know i feel
00:34:33.140 like a boxer in animal farm you know this is he never gets all that riled up about the revolution
00:34:39.500 which side is winning who's because he says you know donkeys live a very long time none of you
00:34:43.660 have ever seen a dead donkey. And I don't see any difference here. This is a false dichotomy
00:34:51.820 between the DSA candidates and the Democrat establishment. The Democratic socialists now
00:34:55.700 are the Democrat establishment. There's no difference between a Tallarico and an Ilhan Omar
00:35:00.540 and an Abdul El-Sayed and a Hassan Piker and a Bernie Sanders and a Chuck Schumer for that
00:35:06.660 matter. They're all the same. They're all exactly the same. Now, speaking of straight white men,
00:35:13.020 bill clinton wants an intern are you going to apply before we get to that my favorite comment
00:35:16.800 yesterday it's from mr drew one who points out you know yesterday i i piped in with my little
00:35:22.160 update from europe and then i handed the show over to mr davies and professor jacob and this
00:35:29.300 could have gone off the rails and maybe it did i didn't watch the show yet i was i was traveling
00:35:34.500 and but maybe it did maybe it went nuts i heard some of you were a little mean in the comments
00:35:38.420 to professor jacob but my favorite comment says ben and jacob really missed the opportunity to
00:35:44.560 tap dance on michael's desk for their show opener they should have done it they should have done it
00:35:48.220 i that would have set it off so mr davies was writing to me and it was like six o'clock in
00:35:54.180 the morning europe europe time and he said hey you got to throw to us you got to tell people
00:35:58.500 they're gonna think it's weird when we just come on the screen and i said whatever you get what
00:36:02.180 you get i can't i'm already we're moving on we're doing something else that would have been the
00:36:05.940 link. They should have tap danced. Did Professor Jacob tap dance? I don't know. I don't know if
00:36:11.540 he can. Bill Clinton wants an intern, sort of. The Clinton Foundation now has two job postings.
00:36:22.940 Hillary's office for the fall of 2026 is offering an internship. Very simple. It's on Instagram.
00:36:30.660 you can go check it out. Click the link. Bill Clinton's office is offering a special projects
00:36:37.600 associate. And I don't know what the difference between those two. One, I'll tell you what,
00:36:45.320 actually, my first political campaign I ever worked on, I was an intern. I got an internship,
00:36:51.020 but my title was special projects coordinator because they mean the same thing.
00:36:57.100 so i guess in the clinton role you you make a salary by new york standards you know a little
00:37:03.080 bit modest um if you have to live in manhattan or something like that it would be difficult
00:37:07.800 and i don't know if the hillary internship gives you they don't post the salary on there in either
00:37:11.340 case it's the same job but they can't call it an internship for bill clinton because he of what he
00:37:19.680 does for the interns you know the reason is they don't want to have to call to mind the fact that
00:37:26.840 bill clinton's interns sometimes become living humidors etc we don't need to be too lurid this
00:37:32.540 is a family show but you can't do it uh the reason this has political import to me other than making
00:37:39.940 fun of the clintons is it's a reminder that sometimes the the bad things you do in life
00:37:48.600 have consequences for a very long time and you know we want to emphasize it's very important
00:37:55.360 we want to emphasize that God's grace is available to you. We all are sinners. We all screw up. We
00:38:00.700 all do very bad things. And so God can forgive you if you turn to him and you request his help.
00:38:07.200 God's grace can absolve you of the eternal consequences of your sins. But there are still
00:38:14.300 temporal consequences of your sins. What's funny is, speaking of theology and history,
00:38:21.080 This is really one of the central issues at the heart of the Protestant Revolution, 0.55
00:38:26.500 the crack up of Christendom in the 16th century. 0.66
00:38:28.700 One of the issues was over indulgences and the abuses of indulgences and all that.
00:38:34.000 But an indulgence at a very basic level is an acknowledgment that there is not only an
00:38:40.840 eternal consequence of sin, but a temporal consequence of sin.
00:38:44.920 In other words, if I go out and I murder somebody, brings us right back to the top of the show.
00:38:49.400 if I go out and murder somebody, there is an eternal consequence of that. 0.96
00:38:54.880 Namely, I will go to hell if I die without repenting and being absolved of my sins. 0.95
00:39:00.720 That's an eternal consequence. There might be eternal consequences for the person murdered.
00:39:04.400 We don't know if that person's in a state of grace, if that person was baptized, whatever.
00:39:07.820 But there will certainly be an eternal consequence for you. Now, you could go and receive God's
00:39:12.660 forgiveness, turn your life around, repent, be baptized, be born again, be absolved of your
00:39:17.360 sins in the confessional, and you will no longer suffer that eternal consequence. But there remains
00:39:21.700 a temporal consequence of your sins. Namely, that guy is still murdered, and his parents still have
00:39:27.260 to live with that for the rest of their lives, and that guy's wife and kids needs to live with
00:39:30.680 that for the rest of their lives, and so on and so forth. And the political community will reel
00:39:33.980 from that, and scandal will spread throughout the community, and trust in institutions might decay,
00:39:39.780 and on and on and on. There are eternal consequences and temporal consequences.
00:39:44.980 Well, same thing here. I don't know if Bill Clinton has sought forgiveness from God for his sins,
00:39:49.580 but the temporal consequences do follow you. Okay. It's like that old joke. I'm a little slap happy
00:39:58.160 because I haven't slept a lot recently, but you know that old joke, old McGregor, two Scotsmen,
00:40:03.120 they're arguing with each other. And the Scotsman says, you see that down there, down the hill in
00:40:09.200 the town. You see that bridge there? I built that bridge with me own hands. But do they call me
00:40:15.120 McGregor, the bridge builder? No. Do you see? Look down there. Look down further into the town. You
00:40:22.040 see that church there? Well, I built the walls of that church with me own hands. Do they call me
00:40:29.900 mcgregor the church builder no but you copulate with one sheep 0.99
00:40:37.820 do you get it do you get it do you get what they call him but that's true in that joke there's
00:40:44.020 always a little grain of truth in jokes it's true that the consequences of your sins really can
00:40:50.580 follow you and at a political level they can seem to define you even if you're super smart like bill
00:40:56.240 Clinton, you know, Rhodes Scholar, graduate of Yale Law School, super powerful and popular and
00:41:01.240 famous, two-term president of the United States. That guy can't even post an internship at his
00:41:07.240 nonprofit. It's a word of caution to be careful. Grace abounds. It's like St. Paul tells us in
00:41:13.340 the letter to the Romans. Grace abounds. So, you know, the more the sin, the more the grace,
00:41:18.020 but that is not an argument to go sin such that more grace will abound. By no means,
00:41:24.220 as St. Paul tells us, should we make that conclusion?
00:41:27.640 Got to watch out.
00:41:28.580 Got to be careful.
00:41:29.340 Got to not let ourselves get carried away.
00:41:30.880 Okay, speaking of sexual impropriety before we go, 1.00
00:41:33.620 Susan Collins, she drives a lot of us crazy 1.00
00:41:35.480 because she votes like a lib half the time, 1.00
00:41:37.200 but she's in Maine and Maine is half a lib state.
00:41:39.700 So I give her a little bit of grace here
00:41:41.240 because she's a Republican
00:41:42.920 who is trying to manage this purple state. 1.00
00:41:46.520 Susan Collins is in a tight race now. 0.99
00:41:48.540 Previously, she was running against the Nazi rapist,
00:41:50.780 Graham Plattner, and then the Democrats 0.95
00:41:52.240 at the last minute took him out.
00:41:53.480 Now she's running against this guy, Troy Jackson. 0.99
00:41:56.000 She's being interviewed about how she's going to run this campaign.
00:41:59.380 This is going to probably be a very tough year for Republicans. 0.77
00:42:02.740 Susan Collins could easily lose her seat to this Democrat. 0.96
00:42:05.860 Here's how she talks about her opponent. 0.89
00:42:08.220 Should the circumstances of his personal life and the mother of his children be relevant to this campaign?
00:42:16.400 Is that fair game, do you think?
00:42:17.360 Well, I'm not going to bring up the fact that the mother of his two children is his second cousin.
00:42:26.120 I don't know whether people know that or not.
00:42:32.220 Bravo, bravo, bravissima, Senator Collins.
00:42:35.780 So well done.
00:42:37.720 We were just talking about that kind of old school political commercial.
00:42:41.960 Senator so-and-so, bad for this, not for that.
00:42:46.320 I'm a congressman such and such, and I support this, not that, and whatever, you know, all that
00:42:50.280 kind of old political rhetoric. Well, this is a formula, tried and true, par excellence,
00:42:56.080 where she gets the question from Politico, which is a left-leaning outlet. They say,
00:43:00.320 hey, do you think that the circumstances of Troy Jackson's personal life should have any effect on
00:43:05.080 this campaign? But notice how vague the questioner is, just the personal life. Do you think personal
00:43:10.000 issues are fair game here? If Susan Collins had said, oh, yes, absolutely. Well, then she looks
00:43:15.560 kind of cheap and petty. Oh, don't bring the family into this. So she doesn't do that. She 0.99
00:43:19.300 says, oh, oh, no, no, no. I would never bring up the fact that my opponent sleeps with his cousin.
00:43:29.140 No, no, no. I would never. Why would you ever think that I would bring up the fact that
00:43:34.300 is this thing on? I would never bring up the fact that my opponent had two kids with his cousin.
00:43:41.900 i would never do that i don't know if people know that or not i don't know if people know
00:43:49.300 just for the people in the back i don't know people know that my opponent sired two children
00:43:55.240 with his cousin like a freak no no i would never bring that up i would never bring family into
00:44:01.660 this race really well done susan excellent excellent job you know sometimes the old
00:44:07.480 political tactics. They're oldies and goodies. They're traditional for a reason. She did a
00:44:14.260 really great job with that. Okay. Speaking of weird sex stuff, I want to get to Ellen Page.
00:44:19.820 Do I really want to get to Ellen Page? Ellen Page is complaining that she hasn't received any job 1.00
00:44:24.040 offers since the Odyssey came out, and she can't figure out why, and I could probably help explain
00:44:29.120 why, but we have to do it tomorrow. I'm such a tease because today is Theology Thursday. The
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