The Michael Knowles Show - September 04, 2026


Ep. 2053 - Ellen Page Is Furious No One Will Cast Her In Movies


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00:01:07.840 delivered. While women across America defend child slayer Lindsay Clancy, a Virginia mom is 0.99
00:01:13.020 arrested for letting her child walk around their neighborhood. She's now being accused of child
00:01:18.940 abuse. Then, Ellen Page complains that no one has cast her in any movies since The Odyssey,
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00:01:31.400 I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:32.840 So communist jihadi and possible homosexual Abdul El-Sayed, the Democrat Senate nominee in 0.93
00:01:57.620 Michigan, just did something really smart. He did. Sorry, I know we all want to knock on Abdul 0.96
00:02:06.620 and make fun of him and call him Big Dummy. He just did something really, really smart.
00:02:11.080 Game recognized game. What can I say? We'll get to that in a second. First, though,
00:02:15.120 really troubling, really causing a lot of people to scratch their heads. There is a story
00:02:20.300 out of Virginia, a mother has just been convicted of delinquency, contributing to the delinquency
00:02:28.940 of a minor because she let her five-year-old son walk half a mile in their gated community.
00:02:36.040 Gated community. What's the story? Story is that Carrie Ann Parkinson, who was eight months
00:02:42.040 pregnant, she was an eight-month pregnant woman with four children out of the womb,
00:02:48.560 fifth on the way, went on a bike ride with her son, Sam. First of all, right there,
00:02:54.160 very good mother. Very good mother to be eight months pregnant going on a bike ride with your
00:02:58.820 five-year-old son. They stopped at the community pond to collect some goose feathers. It's very
00:03:04.620 nice. Then they get home and the five-year-old son says, hey, can I go back to the pond and get
00:03:09.860 some more feathers? Eight months pregnant mother of five says, okay, you can walk down the road 0.79
00:03:18.140 in our gated community to that little pond we were just at and get some more goose feathers if you
00:03:22.300 want. As the boy is walking to the pond, some passerby sees him and calls security. The security
00:03:31.220 guards take the boy, bring him back to his house, call the police, bring two workers from Child
00:03:37.060 Protective Services, and then the police charge this woman for contributing to the delinquency 0.72
00:03:44.080 of a minor. Now, here's what we're getting from the reporting. CPS found the allegations
00:03:50.080 substantiated and placed Parkinson on the state's child abuse and neglect registry.
00:03:55.320 She will remain there for seven years as a child abuser because she let her little boy
00:03:58.900 go get goose feathers at the community pond in a gated community while she is eight months 1.00
00:04:06.000 pregnant with a bunch of other kids. They live in Williamsburg, Virginia. Now, a lot of people
00:04:12.100 are drawing the connection here between this woman and Lindsay Clancy. Lindsay Clancy murders
00:04:17.460 her three children in cold blood, methodically plans out the murders, sends the husband out of 1.00
00:04:23.780 the house, strangles all of the kids, sort of tries to kill herself, but survives. That woman 1.00
00:04:29.700 is deserving of our compassion. That woman isn't responsible for her actions. That woman, 0.99
00:04:36.220 she's sort of a hero. In many ways, she speaks for women everywhere whose cries and whose pain
00:04:42.080 are not heard by the society. Eight-month pregnant mother of five lets her kid go get some goose
00:04:49.200 feathers in their gated community. That woman is a hideous child abuser. She needs to be placed on 1.00
00:04:55.420 a registry. Say, whoa, are we living in bizarro world? Is this like one of those funhouse mirrors
00:05:00.400 at the carnival? But it actually, as far as I'm concerned, makes perfect sense because these cases
00:05:06.040 are not similar. They're actually the opposite cases. For one, you know that this woman is
00:05:12.580 going to attract the ire of the lunatics and the leftists because she's pregnant. She's pregnant 0.98
00:05:17.580 and she's a mother of a bunch of kids. The demons and the people who have common cause with the 0.86
00:05:24.980 demons, they recoil at that. They don't like it when you have a lot of kids. They don't like it
00:05:28.540 when you're pregnant, certainly not when you don't kill your baby in the womb or out of the womb.
00:05:32.220 so automatically all of this codes right wing all of this codes conservative this codes christian
00:05:39.880 have a bunch of kids open to the possibility of life you spend time with your kids this woman
00:05:44.820 she might have even been a homemaker for goodness sake why wasn't she at the office when she was 1.00
00:05:48.840 riding her bicycle and collecting goose feathers with her kid so there's all of that in there but 1.00
00:05:52.620 there's an even deeper opposition between the lindsey clancy case and the pro-abortion women 0.91
00:05:58.280 and all of these witches who are supporting Lindsay
00:06:01.080 and this mother who let her kid take a walk down the street
00:06:04.200 in their gated community.
00:06:06.780 Namely, that this mother let her kid grow up.
00:06:11.420 We don't know all the details.
00:06:13.000 I guess it's possible that this is a very,
00:06:15.680 very dangerous gated community.
00:06:17.640 You know, it's a gated community
00:06:19.040 in the middle of Detroit or something.
00:06:20.960 And a bunch of criminals have the keys
00:06:23.260 and it's really dangerous.
00:06:24.700 I don't buy that though.
00:06:25.580 I don't really think that's true.
00:06:26.540 first of all, 30, 40 years ago, kids, even that young, would just go like walking around the
00:06:32.780 neighborhood and they weren't gated communities and they go ride their bikes and it was fine.
00:06:35.820 No one really cared. And they came back at sunset. Now we don't really do that anymore,
00:06:39.320 in part because of public policy that has destroyed social solidarity, including mass
00:06:43.900 migration and including going so often on crime. But here we have the safest possible scenario
00:06:49.620 for a community with a kid who is five years old. You know, this is a kid who would be in school.
00:06:55.400 I'm not, you know, five years, they're still little kids.
00:06:57.560 But nevertheless, barring any extenuating circumstances that we don't know about,
00:07:02.020 this seems relatively safe, doesn't it?
00:07:05.840 But what the mother is doing in this case is letting her kid grow up a little bit.
00:07:12.560 You don't let the three-year-old go walk down the street to the pond on his own.
00:07:17.100 You don't let the two-year-old do that.
00:07:18.720 But when a kid is five, five or six, you start to give them a little more freedom.
00:07:25.400 when they're not, you're not going to send them on a bus trip across the country,
00:07:28.500 but to walk down the street to go get some goose feathers, probably that's okay.
00:07:34.320 But the left doesn't want to do that. The left never wants to let your kids grow up. They want
00:07:38.760 to, one, they want to snuff kids out in the womb. Then if they don't snuff the kids, they want to 1.00
00:07:43.400 prevent the kids from being conceived in the first place through contraception, etc. Then they want
00:07:48.480 to snuff the kids out in the womb. Then if they don't snuff the kids out in the womb, they
00:07:53.020 apparently support snuffing the kids out when they're outside of the womb. For example, the 0.64
00:07:58.060 Lindsay Clancy case. But then even beyond that, even if we're not talking about literally killing
00:08:01.940 the kids, they want to perpetually infantilize your children. They want to keep them in their
00:08:08.020 schools forever at ever younger ages, starting pre-K at age two in New York. Keep them in school
00:08:13.920 much, much longer. They want to say that your child's brain doesn't really develop until the
00:08:17.800 age of 25. They want to constantly encourage all of the childish appetites that we have.
00:08:22.120 They never want children to develop their higher rational will, the rational will which
00:08:27.680 mediates between the lower will and the divine will.
00:08:30.820 They never want to ascribe responsibility to anyone, which is why when people in the
00:08:37.200 inner city commit crimes, they would say, oh, it's not really their fault in society.
00:08:40.080 And when a mother strangles her three kids, they say, oh, it's not really her fault in
00:08:42.860 society.
00:08:43.320 Because they never want to acknowledge the moral agency of these people, which means
00:08:48.220 they never want them to grow up.
00:08:49.220 really, really outrageous, really sorry state of affairs. But a lot of people are looking at
00:08:56.980 juxtaposing these two cases and saying, wow, isn't that crazy? That's so bonkers.
00:09:00.760 What hypocrisy? It's not hypocrisy. That actually makes a lot of sense. 0.92
00:09:06.240 There's a through line between all of these cases. And it gets back to a really basic issue
00:09:11.120 that we've seen coming from the left for 100 years now, which is the left's goal is to
00:09:18.140 stigmatize normal good behavior and to incentivize bad antisocial behavior. That's what it's about.
00:09:27.440 They want to reset all of the standards. They don't want to just obliterate standards. They
00:09:32.040 want to reset all of the standards. If you kill your kid, you're a hero. If you let your kid walk 0.99
00:09:36.980 down the road to get some goose feathers in your gated community, you're a monster and you need to 0.99
00:09:41.440 go to jail. Okay. Speaking of the children, amazing video coming out of Wake County. This 1.00
00:09:49.280 is a Wake County school board meeting where a fourth grader was speaking up for herself and
00:09:54.780 decrying the trans agenda in the classroom. My name is Alana and nice to meet you. I am a
00:10:07.160 fourth grader here in Wake County. If I had a teacher that was born a man, wears a dress and
00:10:15.640 makeup, that would make me feel weird because it would also make other kids maybe dress up 0.94
00:10:22.880 and be something they aren't. God made us only a girl or a boy at birth. Anything else is confusing.
00:10:34.900 I want to learn at school, not be confused.
00:10:39.380 I want to feel safe. 0.97
00:10:41.720 A man teacher dressed as a woman and acts like a woman scares me. 0.99
00:10:47.840 Please protect me and other kids. 0.84
00:10:50.480 Thank you.
00:10:53.700 Magnificent.
00:10:54.680 I hate it when kids are involved in politics.
00:10:57.160 This might be the one exception because we're talking about schools,
00:11:03.620 schools which are about children. And I'll go even further on the exception because I don't
00:11:09.720 want kids to be mouthing off about total nonsense at schools and pushing radicalism. I remember when
00:11:13.740 I was in middle school, there was a sit-in. There was like a drop out of class and sit-in in the
00:11:18.860 cafeteria to protest the Iraq war. And you have a bunch of 11-year-olds doing that. I thought that
00:11:22.260 was ridiculous. But in this case, this is a political subject that specifically pertains 0.52
00:11:27.680 to little kids, and the adults in charge are abusing the little kids. They're abusing them,
00:11:34.480 they're opening them up to a very tangible kind of abuse, but they're certainly intellectually 1.00
00:11:38.620 and morally abusing them by scandalizing them, by presenting them with a bunch of transgender 0.94
00:11:42.420 nonsense, including trans-identifying teachers. So this little kid walks up, obviously can read 0.97
00:11:47.400 very well, and is reading the statement and says, I don't want transgenderism in my school 1.00
00:11:53.900 because it's weird and it's scary. 1.00
00:11:56.220 Fact check, 1,000% true.
00:11:58.320 And listen to this.
00:11:59.600 This is where this little kid's observation
00:12:02.880 gets down to a really incisive point
00:12:06.080 about human nature and mimetic desire.
00:12:08.120 The kid says, if the teacher comes in,
00:12:12.600 the male teacher comes in and dresses like a woman,
00:12:15.600 it's weird, it's scary, it makes me feel unsafe. 1.00
00:12:18.460 But even beyond that, also because the trans-identifying people 0.99
00:12:23.000 are much more likely to commit violence than other people. Even beyond that, 1.00
00:12:27.820 it might get other kids to try to act that way. This is such a great observation of human nature
00:12:34.780 and mimetic desire. The fact that we are creatures of imitation. And so we just, you know, when
00:12:41.940 people say you're the average of the five people you spend the most time with, we adopt their
00:12:46.080 patterns of speech. We adopt their habits of behavior. We adopt their desires even. And so
00:12:52.740 So when Christ talks about millstones in the Bible, in the Gospels, this is what he's talking about.
00:12:59.160 He's talking about scandalizing innocent people, the little ones, children specifically. 0.95
00:13:05.500 And what this kid understands is if you put a bunch of transgender nonsense in schools, more kids are going to identify as transgender, which is very dangerous because trans identity corresponds with much higher rates of anxiety, depression, suicidality, 0.96
00:13:20.220 all sorts of antisocial and self-destructive behaviors. So the kid comes out and says, 0.95
00:13:24.980 I don't want that. That's totally bad. And please don't do it. Can you please protect us?
00:13:30.880 Really insightful kid. Some are going to say, oh, well, the kid was just put up to this.
00:13:36.740 Maybe, I guess it's possible. Oh, well, you know, the kid didn't really write this. I don't know.
00:13:40.000 It sounds like a fourth grader. It's not, you know, this isn't some, you know, soliloquy out
00:13:44.280 of Shakespeare or something. This is a pretty simple statement of basic observations. And out
00:13:48.520 of the mouth of babes, often we get a fair bit of wisdom, especially when we're talking about
00:13:52.100 really basic aspects of human nature. This moment, this school board meeting,
00:13:58.660 we'll see. I'm not seeing it go super viral on social media, though it should.
00:14:02.440 This school board meeting might be the final emperor has no clothes episode of the transgender 1.00
00:14:09.420 ideology. And it's a helpful reminder to us as we look ahead to the midterms in 2028 and woke one, 1.00
00:14:15.060 which was so crazy. And now we're in woke two, which is way less crazy, even though we can't
00:14:19.100 identify how. It's a reminder that this is still a live issue being pushed by the left.
00:14:24.660 And we need to stop it because it scandalizes innocent people. We need to stop it for all
00:14:29.480 sorts of political reasons, but one of which is it scandalizes little people like this innocent kid
00:14:34.940 who clearly has a better head on her shoulders than the entire administration of the school 0.98
00:14:38.560 board. Okay. Speaking of transgender ideology, Ellen Page is very upset that she hasn't gotten
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00:16:17.180 So Ellen Page was in the Odyssey, and it caused a big hullabaloo.
00:16:21.280 In part, there were really three reasons.
00:16:23.240 One, because she plays a man, but she is a woman, and she thinks that she's a man.
00:16:28.100 So her buddy Christopher Nolan cast her to play a man in the movie,
00:16:31.320 but she doesn't convincingly play a man because she's a woman. 0.85
00:16:34.160 There's that. Two, because the character that she plays in the Odyssey is not actually in the
00:16:38.920 Odyssey. The character she plays in the Odyssey comes out of a later Latin tradition that begins
00:16:43.620 with Virgil, extends all the way through Dante. It's kind of an interesting commentary on the
00:16:48.080 Odyssey. I don't even object to including the character in there, though I do sort of object to
00:16:52.480 using that character to be a replacement in the Hades scene from book 11 of Achilles,
00:16:57.540 who's the strongest warrior ever, and certainly does not look like Ellen Page.
00:17:01.220 uh there's there's that aspect uh but then we get to this point on the the odyssey movie which is
00:17:09.980 look this was a big hit movie and all of the actors should be cast and everything from now
00:17:16.100 on and ellen page ain't getting the phone call here's her lament you know i was seen in a certain
00:17:23.000 way before and it's it is different now so i understand you know i so maybe there maybe there
00:17:29.000 is something to like reaching reaching out to people and um and and and trying to yeah create
00:17:37.140 you know connections and projects that way but you know i think um it's a little tricky for me
00:17:43.320 to get cast right now i think that's probably for obvious pretty obvious reasons the canadian thing
00:17:49.800 yeah of course um hollywood hates canadian for some weird reason those tariffs yeah um they're
00:17:56.660 such awful mean people but um i'm grateful to you know grateful to chris for having me be a part of
00:18:07.840 this and yeah i certainly look i've been so lucky i've been so lucky in my career and gotten to play
00:18:15.560 some really fantastic parts and be a part of some wonderful projects okay so as you said every time
00:18:22.460 this woman speaks, you feel sorry for her because she always says with her words that she's so happy
00:18:27.500 now. She used to be really unhappy, and now she's really unhappy. But if you look at pictures of her,
00:18:32.120 back when she was a woman and understood that she was a woman, she was smiling a lot and looked
00:18:36.800 healthy. And now she's never smiling and looks miserable, which makes sense because she's living
00:18:41.980 in a way that is totally contrary to reality, and that usually makes people unhappy. The third
00:18:48.220 big controversy in her casting as Sinon in The Odyssey is that her acting wasn't very good.
00:18:56.240 It was not believable. And this, in part, might have to do with her skill and her range as an
00:19:03.840 actor. Some actors can play lots of different roles. They can play Hamlet one day. They can
00:19:09.480 play King Lear the next day. They can play, I don't know, Othello the next day. But some things
00:19:17.840 are beyond people's roles. Like if I wanted to go out and play Michael Corleone, I would probably
00:19:23.120 have a pretty good shot at that. If I wanted to go out and play Jerry Seinfeld, maybe I would have
00:19:27.380 a shot at that. If I wanted to go out and play Malcolm X, I would struggle in that role. I don't
00:19:31.760 think I would have a persuasive performance. And so this woman is trying to do something that is 1.00
00:19:36.640 certainly beyond her range as an actress, even if she were Laurence Olivier or Marlon Brando,
00:19:42.660 depending on your preference in schools of acting. That's the problem. It was a bad performance.
00:19:49.640 Also, because people now know way too much about her personal life. Philip Seymour Hoffman,
00:19:53.680 one of the truly greatest actors of his generation, he was asked about his personal
00:19:57.360 views on some matter, whether it was politics or culture, whatever. And I remember his beautiful
00:20:01.160 response in the interview. He said, the less you know about me, the better.
00:20:06.700 The less you know about me, the better. Because if you don't know anything about Philip Seymour
00:20:10.800 Hoffman the person, then you can believe him in any role that he's playing. Some crazy creep, 0.93
00:20:18.440 which he played a lot of creepy roles, or even like a kind of good-looking suave guy or criminal
00:20:22.980 or whatever. If you don't know who he really is in his true personality, then he can be anybody.
00:20:30.540 And he was very good at that. Now we know too much about Ellen Page. But the big reason why
00:20:35.180 this isn't going to work, is she says it herself. She goes, I was seen in a certain way before.
00:20:42.200 That's true. Yeah, you're right. You were seen as a woman, and now you are seen as this very,
00:20:50.080 very confused person who's engaged in all sorts of mutilations to her body.
00:20:55.140 What she is doing, it takes us to the top of the show. People think that the woman who lets her 0.91
00:21:00.480 kid go get goose feathers in the gated community and lindsey clancy are they're similar kind of 0.98
00:21:05.420 cases they're not they're opposite cases same thing here ellen page now is the opposite of an
00:21:10.980 actress acting the most basic definition i've ever heard of acting comes from sanford meisner
00:21:16.980 one of the great theorists of acting who comes from the group theater which emerged it created
00:21:21.320 the naturalistic school of acting in the united states and it emerged out of the moscow art
00:21:25.460 theater konstantin stanislavsky the whole which emerged itself emerges out of freud this is where
00:21:29.800 modern acting comes from, the real naturalistic style. And this defines acting for film.
00:21:38.080 Sandy Meisner said that acting is living truthfully in imaginary circumstances.
00:21:44.380 That's what good acting is. You live truthfully in imaginary circumstances.
00:21:51.080 Ellen Page is doing the opposite. Ellen Page acts, lives falsely in real circumstances.
00:21:58.320 it's totally the opposite of what acting is that that is why that is a large reason why her acting
00:22:04.460 has suffered that is a large reason why she's seen differently now that is a large reason why
00:22:08.880 she's not being cast in movies it's not she's joking but she says anti-canadian discrimination
00:22:13.940 but what she's really talking about is it's anti-transgender discrimination but it's not
00:22:18.440 even chiefly that a really good actor a really good actor can pick up on all the little subtleties
00:22:27.920 all the things about human behavior that other people miss. This is why New York actors tend
00:22:33.480 to be better than Los Angeles actors, because New York actors are always around people.
00:22:37.820 LA actors are in their cars all the time, driving, just waiting in traffic on Santa
00:22:40.760 Monica Boulevard. New York actors are on the subway. They're walking around. They're seeing
00:22:44.060 people. They're seeing the way that they move, the way that they tick. Philip Seymour Hoffman
00:22:48.160 is a good example of that. He's a real New York actor. So they're so tuned into the reality of
00:22:54.220 human nature, that they are showing you something about human nature. Ultimately, they're showing
00:22:57.820 you something about yourself that rings true that you were not aware of before you saw the
00:23:02.360 performance. That's what really, really good acting does. It's so truthful. It's so natural
00:23:09.180 that you get another thing that Sandy Meisner writes about, which is Duzza's blush. There's 0.74
00:23:14.360 this Italian actress, Eleonora Duzza, who didn't happen every night on stage, but some nights on
00:23:18.340 stage when she was in the scene where she was supposed to be embarrassed, she blushed. She
00:23:22.520 actually blushed, which means that the acting has to be so organic. It has to be so vital within you.
00:23:29.260 That's what good acting is. Ellen Page is doing exactly the opposite. 1.00
00:23:34.400 She is living in a false way all the time. In reality, not even just on the stage. It's very, 0.99
00:23:41.540 very sad. I really feel for the woman because she's destroyed her life. And she had a very
00:23:46.980 nice acting career. And she had a lot of adulation and success. And she's destroyed it for a
00:23:52.380 complete delusion that has bled far beyond the stage and the camera. It's destroyed the whole
00:24:01.360 rest of her life too. Okay. Now we turn away from Ellen Page, but we stick on this theme of
00:24:09.000 people of dubious orientation and extreme performance. We turn to Abdul El-Sayed
00:24:15.820 because Abdul El-Sayed is awful. He's like a communist jihadi who, when he wants to lose those 0.98
00:24:22.180 allegations. He just makes himself seem super gay in campaign commercials. We can make fun of 0.99
00:24:26.940 Abdul all day. He would be horrible in the Senate. Abdul El-Sayed just gave a great answer
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00:26:06.600 and will reach eternity. Get involved today. Abdul El-Sayed has been getting struggled for
00:26:12.460 days now, I called for this even during my brief podcasts from Europe. I was calling for this. I
00:26:18.440 said the struggling of Abdul Al-Sayed is working. Keep it up. Hassan Piker is squirming. Abdul Al-Sayed 1.00
00:26:23.980 is squirming. AOC, Mamdani, Bernie Sanders, they're all squirming over their connection to this guy
00:26:29.360 that they brought in, Hassan Piker, who calls for the murder of conservatives who said he wanted to
00:26:34.020 kill Charlie Kirk before Charlie was murdered by one of his fellow travelers. Abdul Al-Sayed asked
00:26:39.740 once again, he's had horrible answers on the Hassan Piker thing. He tries to minimize him.
00:26:44.100 Oh, he's a Twitch streamer in California. What are you talking about, buddy? Hassan Piker then
00:26:47.720 comes out and says, hey, Abdul invited me out to campaign with him. What are you talking about?
00:26:52.320 Hassan Piker is high-fiving, dabbing up, Mamdani, AOC. Well, hold on, I'm not just some random
00:26:57.560 Twitch streamer. I'm your guy. You're begging me to campaign with you. Now you're trying to
00:27:01.360 distance yourself. Abdul Al-Sayed, days after this controversy started, has finally arrived
00:27:07.780 at a great answer. There are 3 million people who listen to Hassan. And I want to offer them
00:27:15.480 a pathway into an electoral movement where rather than sit outside of the electoral system,
00:27:21.940 they see a pathway around the things that they agree with that he says that I agree with,
00:27:26.920 and a pathway that disavows the things that I disagree with.
00:27:30.220 Oh, this is good. This is good. It's not perfect, but this is good. Got to give it to the guy,
00:27:36.300 game recognized game. It's a great answer. He can't come out and say, I agree with Hasan
00:27:43.360 Piker on everything, even though he probably does. He can't come out and say, I totally
00:27:47.680 disavow Hasan Piker because then he just looks like a total coward and a weakling. 0.97
00:27:52.000 This guy was, five seconds ago, this guy was begging Hasan Piker to campaign for him. 0.96
00:27:56.800 But now that he's got the nomination and Hasan Piker's inconvenient, he wants to pretend like
00:28:00.660 he never met the guy. So he looks just weak. He looks slimy and traitorous. So he can't really do
00:28:05.880 that. But likewise, he can't just minimize him as some random Twitch streamer in California.
00:28:10.980 He's not. He's a major figure. He's the intellectual thought leader of the left.
00:28:14.960 Intellectual. But whatever, he's the thought leader of the left. And he's a major, major
00:28:18.920 figure in the Democrat Party. So what does Abdul El-Sayed do? He's totally shifted course. He
00:28:25.180 says, look, the reason that I've brought Hassan Piker in is because so many people are listening
00:28:34.240 to him. And this is very troublesome, very worrisome. So many people are listening to Hassan
00:28:40.520 and I just want to make sure that I channel their political angst in a good direction.
00:28:48.100 They might follow a bad direction if they only listen to Hassan Piker, if we ignore this problem
00:28:54.660 simmering in the Democrat Party. So what I'm going to do, humanitarian that I am, Abdul El-Sayed,
00:29:01.020 I am going to de-radicalize these people. That's why it's been a mission of mercy.
00:29:08.260 I'm so responsible. I'm reaching out to those disillusioned Hassan Piker listeners,
00:29:13.320 and I'm bringing them into the mainstream of politics. It's good. It's pretty good. 0.90
00:29:19.620 There's just one problem. It is the problem that Republicans need to hammer Abdul Al-Sayed on.
00:29:26.000 When he says, you know, there are 3 million people who listen to Hassan Piker,
00:29:31.020 he's one of them. That's the problem. When Abdul El-Sayed says, look, no, there are all
00:29:39.760 these people out there who follow Hassan Piker. He's trying to create a distance between him and
00:29:44.660 the Hassan audience. They're the same audience. They're the same thing. This is the same thing 1.00
00:29:48.080 as AOC saying, wow, Woke One was crazy, right? Lady, you were the leader of Woke One. You were 1.00
00:29:54.460 the leader. You did Woke One. Woke One, c'est moi, says AOC. So then the obvious follow-up to AOC
00:30:04.720 is, okay, how was Woke One crazy? In what ways was it crazy? She can't answer. The obvious follow-up
00:30:10.540 to Abdul El-Sayed is, oh yeah, what do those three million Hassan listeners believe that you 0.60
00:30:17.040 don't believe? Yeah, yeah, you, okay, yeah, you're doing yeoman's work here. You want to bring
00:30:22.780 those 3 million radicalized leftists into the mainstream of politics.
00:30:27.780 What do you disagree on? You said you want to pull them in where you guys agree,
00:30:32.540 and then you want to disavow the things that you disagree on. Okay, what do you disagree on?
00:30:39.940 Do you disagree that America is a white supremacist country? Do you disagree that
00:30:46.900 capitalism is oppressive? Do you disagree with Palestinian statehood? Abdul, I don't think so.
00:30:55.640 Do you disagree on abortion, murdering babies up until the moment of birth? Do you disagree on
00:31:00.640 the transgender ideology that would castrate and mutilate little kids? Do you disagree on 1.00
00:31:05.040 open borders? Do you disagree on socialist medicine and economics? What do you disagree on?
00:31:11.380 Do you disagree on the justification for political violence even?
00:31:14.320 what do you disagree on please okay you all right abdul you're taking this route great good for you
00:31:20.580 you're going to take this route now you're so different you're just trying to pull in the
00:31:24.200 radical hassan listeners into the mainstream politics cool where do you differ
00:31:27.900 wow hassan piker listeners are crazy that's what he's saying woke one was crazy hassan piker 0.95
00:31:37.040 listeners are crazy oh yeah how are they crazy please tell me how they're tell me how hassan 0.99
00:31:41.300 Packer's crazy. Can you? He's got a picture of 9-11 behind him. Do you remember? I remember 0.95
00:31:48.220 the videos of people in Gaza dancing on September 11th, 2001. I remember. I was 11 years old. I
00:31:52.980 remember it vividly. What was so crazy? Tell me where you differ. I'd love to see that.
00:31:59.580 It's a good answer. It's a good answer. I'm giving him credit. It's the best answer he
00:32:03.700 can come up with. Now answer my next question. Oh, yeah. No, we're so different. Total fake
00:32:10.120 news. Speaking of fake news, this is an amazing story. I love this one. Politico, do I have the
00:32:14.780 Politico story here? No, it's not printed out. I'm going to flog my producers afterward. Politico
00:32:20.040 has this big breaking story about Trump's coin. Trump has just minted a coin in which
00:32:30.160 he's got his face on the front of it. It's great. I can't wait to get it. Liberty,
00:32:34.720 July 4th, in God we trust, 1776 to 2026. Here, you know what? I actually have it on my Twitter.
00:32:41.800 I was tweeting it earlier today. I love this so much. So Politico runs this story about Trump's
00:32:49.160 supposed megalomania and how much this breaks with political tradition. U.S. Mint begins
00:32:55.020 circulation sale of Trump $1 coins. And then the subheader, it is the first time U.S. currency
00:33:01.500 features a living person since the mid-1800s. Trump, another way in which he's upending
00:33:08.140 American standards and norms. How could he do this? The first time that currency has featured
00:33:14.840 a living person and a living president, we've never had anything like that. Actually, though,
00:33:20.000 none of that's true. Back in, what was the year? Can we pull up the Calvin Coolidge coin? Do we
00:33:27.400 have it? Yeah, in the 1920s, 1926, not all that long ago, we have a coin featuring George Washington
00:33:36.420 and the president, Calvin Coolidge, very much a living person. And that was for a very similar
00:33:43.800 event. It was celebrating a milestone anniversary of the United States. Not only, in other words,
00:33:50.440 has what President Trump is doing now with the coins been done before, not only has it been done
00:33:55.980 since the 19th century, but it was done by one of conservatives' favorite presidents
00:34:03.280 and by a president that the left doesn't really take much issue with.
00:34:07.080 The right loves him. The left doesn't care about him. It's Calvin Coolidge.
00:34:10.300 Nobody objects to Calvin Coolidge. This is totally fine and normal.
00:34:15.300 And Politico just breathlessly reporting this story, so confidently reporting complete nonsense,
00:34:23.340 sense, something that is just totally true. The problem for Politico right now is they can't even
00:34:27.680 correct the story because the only correction to the story they could make is correction.
00:34:31.820 We were totally wrong. Correction. We shouldn't have printed this story. Everything about this
00:34:36.380 story is false. It's that old Reagan line. It's not that our liberal friends are ignorant. It's
00:34:42.840 that they know so much that isn't so. It's the blithe ignorance. It's the confidence. Okay, 0.80
00:34:48.520 before we go, I know I got to get to the mailbag. There's one thing I got to get to, though.
00:34:53.340 We turn from the progressive liberals here to the libertarians.
00:34:56.240 The head of the Cato Institute, which is the most prominent, respected libertarian think tank in the country,
00:35:02.600 has just made a really curious argument in testimony on Capitol Hill about how we consider the immigration debate.
00:35:11.320 Open borders, not just illegal immigration, but legal immigration.
00:35:15.020 See if you can follow the libertarian logic.
00:35:17.260 our immigrant co-workers neighbors friends and family want to contribute to this country legally 0.96
00:35:24.780 let them fix legal immigration imagine if just three percent of gun sales were permitted many
00:35:34.600 in this room myself included would call that gun prohibition but that's how few immigrants
00:35:40.940 seeking permanent legal status in the united states through the proper processes actually
00:35:46.520 get approved in a year. For many, there's no legal way at all. If you make legal immigration
00:35:53.780 impossible, don't complain about illegal immigration. You created it. You made it 1.00
00:36:01.800 illegal. So yes, focus on justice for victims, but let peaceful people contribute to this country
00:36:09.840 legally. I don't know. I don't have a formal philosophical education. My training in formal
00:36:20.640 logic clearly is insufficient. Because it seems that what he's arguing is, if you don't open up
00:36:29.100 the borders through legal channels or however, through law, through statute, if you don't permit
00:36:36.280 huge masses of people to come into this country. By the way, we take a million legal immigrants a
00:36:41.500 year. It's true that Biden added three million illegal immigrants per year, but we take a million
00:36:47.340 legal immigrants per year. We have the most open immigration policy of any country in the history
00:36:51.320 of the world. He says, if you don't open it up even more, then when people come here illegally,
00:36:58.820 that's your fault because you've made it illegal. That is like saying, I think, see,
00:37:03.260 check my logic here. It is like saying that if you don't unlock your door at night and allow
00:37:09.840 people to come into your home and take your TV and rape your wife, if you don't allow them to
00:37:15.580 come into your home, then don't you dare complain about burglars. Don't you dare complain about 0.96
00:37:21.260 burglars and robbers because you locked the door. You forced them to become burglars and robbers.
00:37:28.820 If you had just left the door open
00:37:30.620 Even opened up the door
00:37:33.460 Put a big sign on and said 1.00
00:37:34.340 Please come in here and steal my stuff and rape my wife 1.00
00:37:36.300 That's what we want you to do 1.00
00:37:38.500 There are a lot of people who want to do that
00:37:39.940 Think about all the people who want to come into your home 1.00
00:37:43.060 And take your stuff and rape your wife 1.00
00:37:44.340 And you're just going to close the door and say 1.00
00:37:46.520 Don't do that and you're going to lock it
00:37:47.760 Well now you've made them burglars 0.97
00:37:49.700 And marauders and rapists 0.94
00:37:52.900 Because you didn't just let them do
00:37:55.300 Whatever they wanted to do
00:37:58.820 What if I don't want people to do that?
00:38:02.160 Is it, can we just not have people do that?
00:38:05.440 It seems to me we should drastically reduce 0.79
00:38:07.460 not just illegal immigration, but even legal immigration 1.00
00:38:09.780 because we have the highest foreign-born percentage
00:38:11.700 of the population that we've ever had.
00:38:13.180 And we've had a massive fraying of social solidarity
00:38:15.420 as a result of that.
00:38:16.700 And even if you're fine with some migration,
00:38:18.780 clearly we haven't assimilated a lot of people
00:38:20.180 and we need to reduce it.
00:38:22.300 But you're telling me that if we, the people
00:38:26.200 in a self-governing republic such as we're supposed to have, if we express our political
00:38:31.820 views and exercise our political rights, that that is somehow illegitimate and therefore we
00:38:38.120 have no one to blame for the crime committed against us but ourselves? This is libertarianism,
00:38:45.640 folks. Look, I don't want to seem sanctimonious here holier than thou. I'll make a confession
00:38:52.560 publicly i was a libertarian once when i was a teenager i was a libertarian i was okay so i i
00:39:00.260 get it i i was there but this is this is libertarianism isn't i thought libertarianism
00:39:07.160 was supposed to be about the rights of individuals and it was supposed to be about freedom and
00:39:11.960 sovereignty and autonomy and what this guy is saying is if you in your republic try to
00:39:20.140 stop even one of the million, millions of people who come into this country every year.
00:39:27.260 If you try to say, hey, can we just have 999,999 legal immigrants instead of a million? 1.00
00:39:34.000 If you try to stop even one of them, you deserve illegal immigration. You deserve people coming 1.00
00:39:40.640 into your home and taking your stuff and raping your wife. Does that defend individual rights? 1.00
00:39:45.840 Is that about autonomy and liberty and sovereignty?
00:39:47.780 I don't think so.
00:39:48.380 I think, no knock on this poor guy.
00:39:50.760 He is obviously confused.
00:39:53.160 Libertarianism is a very confused political ideology.
00:39:56.760 And it is just a species of liberalism.
00:39:59.900 And that's what's wrong with it.
00:40:02.540 And that's why, that's also why when you look at the voter quadrants of, you know, political preferences, you know, the upper left, the upper right, the lower left, the lower right, on the scale of authority to libertinism and socialism to capitalism.
00:40:15.520 You know how they arrange that political compass test?
00:40:18.360 It's why when you actually look at voters, absolutely no one, no one is in the right-wing libertarian box.
00:40:27.700 There is no constituency for that, in part because it doesn't make any sense.
00:40:31.160 Okay, we have to get to the mailbag.
00:40:33.100 We get to get to the mailbag.
00:40:34.180 First, though, my favorite comment yesterday is from Joel Scott who says,
00:40:36.640 Michael, I love you for 6-7ing.
00:40:38.860 I'm always telling people to grow up and realize it's funny.
00:40:41.200 It is.
00:40:41.820 The 6-7 thing, I really like it.
00:40:44.080 of all the look every generation has slang every generation going back 100 years ago back when
00:40:49.900 calvin coolidge put his face on on money you had like 23 skidoo and when i was a kid you had like
00:40:55.760 oh snap and like i don't know a bunch of other dumb phrases and now they have six seven six seven
00:41:02.060 is wholesome because it's kind of a nonsense because it doesn't mean anything if you added
00:41:07.020 if you added two numbers to six seven you'd get something that was a little bit evocative and
00:41:12.620 appeals to the prurient interest and which other generations have had it in their slang.
00:41:16.560 6-7 is kind of fun. It's kind of wholesome. I like it. It's good. It's like so ridiculous
00:41:20.600 when older generations complain about younger people's slang. Every generation has slang. 0.93
00:41:25.460 That's like how language works. We like that. We like that a lot.
00:41:32.560 I know that I'm running way over right now. I've actually run several minutes over,
00:41:38.380 maybe six seven minutes over in fact our mailbag is sponsored by pure talk at pure talk.com slash
00:41:43.020 knolls k-n-o-w-l-e-s take it away hi michael it's millie i want to start off by saying that i really
00:41:52.460 appreciate your show out of everyone that posts on the daily wire you are my go-to um i just
00:41:58.140 recently turned 18 and i immediately registered to vote my problem is i am a conservative christian
00:42:05.220 living in a blue state, and it's really hard for me to know where to get reliable information.
00:42:10.780 I was wondering if you had any advice on where I should be looking or how I should be approaching
00:42:15.020 my research as I prepared to vote in my first election this November. Thank you.
00:42:19.360 Really great question. Millie, first of all, you have excellent, excellent taste in podcasts. You're 0.60
00:42:24.540 clearly a woman with a very good judgment, a good head on her shoulders. I love that we are reaching
00:42:30.560 the Utes. Happy birthday. You've just turned 18. That's great. Everything. Love this. You're in a
00:42:36.860 blue state. You want to figure out how to vote. Where do you get your information from? You say
00:42:41.700 you listen to this podcast. I appreciate that, but obviously I don't cover every race, every local
00:42:45.060 race in every different state. I'm going to say something that is going to be so unpopular that
00:42:51.140 people are going to, they're going to recoil against, they're going to find it icky and shallow
00:42:54.820 and yucky. Just vote straight Republican. You should just vote straight Republican.
00:43:01.520 Put a little caveat here. You should begin thinking about how to vote with the assumption
00:43:09.860 that you are going to vote straight Republican because the parties really are different.
00:43:13.900 There was a controversy among the American political scientists in the 1930s or thereabouts.
00:43:20.180 One of the controversies was that the parties were not all that different.
00:43:23.700 You had super liberal Republicans.
00:43:25.240 You had very conservative Democrats and everything in between.
00:43:28.060 The parties broke down more along geographic lines,
00:43:30.240 and they didn't have a ton of ideological or philosophical coherence.
00:43:34.900 And so they endeavored to change that.
00:43:36.800 And over the ensuing decades, they did change that.
00:43:38.620 And the Republicans became the conservative party,
00:43:40.340 and the Democrats became the leftist party.
00:43:42.960 Liberal took to harder line leftist.
00:43:45.740 Okay, so there's some clarity there.
00:43:48.480 The clarity is really good because the parties generally are coherent.
00:43:51.400 You might disagree on some issue of foreign policy
00:43:53.900 or some nuance of migration
00:43:55.340 or some question of economic policy.
00:43:57.620 But generally speaking, you got one party 0.99
00:43:59.400 that wants to kill babies 0.92
00:44:00.800 and you got one party that doesn't want to kill babies. 0.99
00:44:02.880 You got one party that wants to chop off 1.00
00:44:04.400 the genitals of little kids. 1.00
00:44:05.360 You got one party that doesn't want to do that. 1.00
00:44:06.860 You got one party that wants to kick God out of public life.
00:44:08.800 You got one party that generally is pretty okay with God,
00:44:11.680 at least.
00:44:12.640 You got, you have pretty clear differences here.
00:44:15.460 You got one party that hates the country 0.99
00:44:16.800 and follows a guy who says he wipes his derriere 0.99
00:44:18.920 with the American flag named Azan Piker. 0.96
00:44:20.300 and you got another party that is patriotic.
00:44:23.600 Another party for which the major criticism
00:44:25.700 is that there are two over the top in their patriotism.
00:44:28.360 I want to be with those guys.
00:44:29.900 So now you can get bad apple Republican candidates.
00:44:32.620 You can get rhinos, you can get squishes.
00:44:34.580 You can get people who are ideologically deceptive
00:44:37.520 and snakes.
00:44:38.060 So I'm not saying you just always have to vote
00:44:41.060 for every single Republican.
00:44:42.020 A few, maybe you sit out or you change your vote,
00:44:44.900 but we begin with prejudice.
00:44:47.140 We begin with prescription, as Edmund Burke called it
00:44:49.320 and Russell Kirk called it.
00:44:50.300 we begin recognizing that we don't need to create the world anew every single day.
00:44:56.020 It's not going to be the case that you vote straight Republican in 2026,
00:44:59.400 but then in 2028, you vote 50-50 because the candidates just changed that much.
00:45:04.720 That's not how it's going to work. Maybe you changed that much in the meantime.
00:45:07.800 But assuming that you still support generally all the good stuff and you oppose all the bad stuff,
00:45:13.380 you should probably just vote straight Republican. Probably. And in the primaries,
00:45:17.400 then you got to figure out, you know, which kind of Republican you want to support. But that's it.
00:45:21.120 I know it doesn't sound independent. Doesn't sound unbiased. It doesn't sound. Yeah, it sounds
00:45:28.180 like politics to me. Okay, next one. Hey, Michael, it's Isaac. Hope you're doing well, man. Had a
00:45:34.640 question for you. Is it okay for a Christian to practice astral projection? I lean towards no,
00:45:42.540 but wanted to get your thoughts. Thanks, man. Yeah, no, it's not okay. Astral projection
00:45:48.440 is one of two things. It's either an occult ritual in which people imagine that they're
00:45:58.820 surfing on the surface of the sun or something like that. They're projecting themselves into
00:46:03.640 some distant place through their mind, through their own will. It's either that, and these
00:46:09.220 people are just overgrown children and they're crazy. Or it is people who are engaging in an 0.98
00:46:14.940 occult ritual where they think that they're surfing on the surface of the sun or projecting
00:46:18.440 themselves into some other place with the help of demons. Because demons are telling them what
00:46:23.500 it looks like. If you believe in astral projection, that's what it is. And if you think it's a bunch
00:46:29.920 of phooey, it's the first one. Either of those are unacceptable though. And what's interesting, 0.99
00:46:35.980 there is a parallel in Christianity. You sometimes hear stories of saints being able to
00:46:41.420 bilocate. Padre Pio in the 20th century is very famous for this. That is to be physically in one
00:46:47.740 place and to be in another respect in another place at the same time. It would be impossible
00:46:53.080 for a single person to be in two places in the same respect simultaneously, but they could be
00:46:58.700 in two places in different respects simultaneously. So you say, well, that kind of sounds like astral
00:47:03.640 projection, doesn't it? At a surface level, perhaps it does. But it's kind of like the
00:47:09.460 difference between good and bad government. You can have a good monarch, or you can have an evil
00:47:14.940 tyrant. On the surface, they look like the same thing. But the difference is that the monarch,
00:47:20.760 the good monarch, is ruling for the common good. The evil tyrant is ruling for his own private
00:47:26.720 interest. So on the surface, they have similar behaviors, but the orientation is totally
00:47:31.860 different. And it's the same thing with astral projection. Astral projection, people get into it
00:47:36.000 because they're kind of curious and they want to accrue some new power to themselves. And they want
00:47:41.820 to get a leg up over other people and they want to just flex their own autonomy and their own
00:47:48.240 individual will. That's bad. That's bad to transgress natural limits so that you can make
00:47:54.560 yourself into a god, which is essentially what you're doing. However, when we hear these stories
00:47:58.520 of the saints by locating, they're not really doing that for their own glory or of their own
00:48:02.340 power. They realize that everything that we have comes to us from God. And so they are open to
00:48:07.920 God's will and to helping to enact God's will and to cooperate with God's grace in the world.
00:48:13.580 On the surface, those seem like similar things, but they actually have
00:48:16.520 a rather different orientation. Okay, I want to get to so much more.
00:48:21.080 I really want to get to so much more. But it's Fake Headline Friday. The rest of the show
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