00:03:42.360On top of that, we know that Ilhan Omar hates America, giggles at al-Qaeda, and is just an all-around terrible person who should be deported from the country.
00:36:29.320by man shall his blood be shed, comma,
00:36:32.560for man is made in the image and likeness of God.
00:36:36.860So whatever you think about current church teaching,
00:36:39.320whatever your exegesis, it is simply a grammatical fact, a syntactical and grammatical fact
00:36:47.100that the argument for the death penalty in the book of Genesis is based on human dignity.
00:36:55.180Not that the death penalty is contrary to human dignity, not that we tolerate it even though
00:37:01.060it undermines human dignity. No, no, no. We have the death penalty from the very beginning
00:37:05.120in order to defend human dignity. So this statement from the Pope is confusing.
00:37:11.840It also means if the death penalty is in itself contrary to the dignity of the human person,
00:37:18.560then that means that St. Thomas Aquinas promoted something that was contrary to the dignity of the
00:37:25.780human person. In other words, that was immoral. That means that St. Paul in the letter to the
00:37:31.220Romans endorsed something that was immoral. That means that blessed Pius IX and many other popes
00:37:37.860enacted policies that are immoral in the papal states. This is very, very strange. This is very,
00:37:44.560very confusing. So the Vatican will have to explain that. Then there's the second statement,
00:37:51.220which is disconnected from the first. The second statement returns to the prudential argument.
00:37:56.860The pope says the common good can be safeguarded and the requirements of justice can be met without
00:38:00.140recourse to capital punishment. Okay, okay, hold on. Now we're making a total, now we're back to
00:38:04.300JP2 and Benedict. Okay, I can get with that argument. I can understand that argument. You're
00:38:09.160saying, look, now in the old days, we needed capital punishment to protect people and the
00:38:13.880common good, but now we don't really need that because we have maximum security prisons. So
00:38:17.300you can argue that the maximum security prisons don't prudentially actually protect the common
00:38:22.680good, but whatever. Okay, at least there I see a prudential argument. And that is an argument,
00:38:27.140by the way, with which a Catholic in good faith can disagree, albeit in a spirit of reverence
00:38:32.620and to the Pope. Okay. What that second statement does not say is what Pope Francis said, which is
00:38:38.720that, and I think Pope Leo has said, which is that the death penalty is contrary to the gospel per
00:38:46.140se. Whoa, whoa, that's a big statement. That's not what the second statement says. Then the third
00:38:52.900one finally says, effective systems of detention have been developed that protect citizens while
00:38:56.440at the same time do not completely deprive those who are guilty of the possibility of redemption.
00:39:00.380Now, this is a third argument again, which is that one of the arguments against the death penalty
00:39:07.720is that it deprives people of the possibility of repentance. Because if you kill them,0.99
00:39:11.940they won't have 30 years to get their lives in order and to see the light and to have a truly0.99
00:39:17.360a come to Jesus moment, which can save their souls. But that is far from clear to me. In fact,
00:39:22.760I would say it's probably the opposite. I'm with Dr. Johnson who says, depend upon it,
00:39:25.940sir, when a man is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully.
00:39:30.160I don't think it's at all clear that giving someone 30 years to languish on death row will
00:39:35.120make them more likely to repent. In fact, I think there's a good chance it makes them less likely to
00:39:39.320repent. I think that when a man is facing the scaffold immediately, that might very well make
00:39:45.740him more likely to repent. So again, I read the statement of the Pope in a spirit of obedience
00:39:51.380and respect, but I'm not sure about that. And once again, this would be a kind of prudential
00:39:56.820judgment that does not demand that we all totally agree with it all of the time.
00:40:03.080So what does that mean? It means that, especially for something that seems like a change here,
00:40:10.780we're going to have to, the church is going to have to clarify this. Luckily, the church measures
00:40:14.640her ages in centuries, not just years and days. But this is unclear. The situation before 2018
00:40:22.940was a lot easier. You say, okay, well, the Pope is making a prudential judgment. I don't really
00:40:27.580agree with that, but I'm still here respectfully. I think about it. I contemplate it. He deserves
00:40:33.600my consideration. Okay. But when you raise the stakes here to this attacks the human dignity
00:40:39.800and it's contrary to the gospel per se, now you're in a situation where either the Pope
00:40:45.800is actually calling 2,000 years of church tradition and the 2,000 year reading of scripture
00:40:51.800immoral, or I'm just not quite understanding what it is that the Pope is saying. Because
00:40:58.740the church teaching cannot change in this way. I mean, this is not a minor issue.
00:41:08.400And so I think all of that to say, the reason that the death penalty debate has become so focused among Catholics and Christians more broadly is not really about the death penalty.