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00:01:48.960 you start a plan good ranchers american meat delivered ilhan omar gives the strangest answer

00:01:54.720 you've ever heard to the question, did you marry your brother? The Call Her Daddy podcast goes

00:02:00.740 viral for encouraging women that it is never too late to leave their husbands. It's never too late

00:02:06.600 to ruin your life. And the Young Turks promise a big October surprise by reportedly catching a 0.93

00:02:12.780 Republican senator with male prostitutes. Tis the midterm season. I'm Michael Knowles. It's the 0.99

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00:02:24.720 You know, beyond all of the mommy, daddy, brother, husband drama going on in the midterm elections,

00:02:43.520 there are actual policies, believe it or not. I know it's sometimes easy to forget that the

00:02:49.140 campaigns are supposed to be about policies that will be implemented by legislators and

00:02:53.920 executives. But two of the most prominent Democrat nominees for Senate, Abdul El-Sayed and James

00:03:00.120 Tallarico, are openly promising to destroy the Supreme Court if they get elected. So we'll get

00:03:05.280 into that in a second. First, though, this Ilhan Omar bit. Ilhan Omar clearly feeling the heat

00:03:11.160 after that federal raid on her home, after the reports coming out from the federal government,

00:03:16.160 signed off on, by the way, by a federal judge. So it's not just the executive branch of the

00:03:20.720 Trump administration in collaboration with the DOJ and DHS. All of this question about Ilhan Omar's

00:03:28.780 immigration status, whether or not her naturalization was legitimate, whether or not

00:03:33.620 there was any fraud involved, whether or not that fraud pertains to marrying her brother to help him

00:03:37.640 commit immigration fraud, whether or not that pertains to her lying about her age to get her

00:03:41.760 own citizenship. So amid all of this, if it were all just nonsense, the same kind of right-wing

00:03:47.320 conspiracy theories that Ilhan Omar has had to deal with for six, eight years, you imagine she

00:03:52.580 wouldn't be rushing to the cameras to give an interview about them. However, in this case,

00:03:57.900 she does. She rushes to the friendliest host she can imagine, which is one of the Maddow lookalikes

00:04:03.200 on MSNBC, Chris Hayes. And he sits her down, and it's a pretty simple question. Hey, can you

00:04:11.260 believe these crazy Republicans are saying you married your brother? You didn't do that, right? 0.99

00:04:17.320 Who was this man that was your husband?

00:04:19.620 When did they start saying that he was your brother?

00:04:22.080 Why?

00:04:23.740 It started with the Somali blog.

00:04:27.960 I don't know if it still exists, but somebody put in there that he had to have been my brother or something to that effect.

00:04:35.560 And right-wing conspiracy theorists in Minneapolis got a hold of it,

00:04:42.080 and they just kind of went and found random people who were like,

00:04:45.420 she introduced us uh you know she introduced him to us and said he was her brother um which is

00:04:53.140 you know just insane i mean i don't i don't know those people that they

00:04:57.160 talk about he was not you were not related to him at all not that there's not like there's

00:05:02.580 a weird kernel of truth that's through some game not to my knowledge what

00:05:07.680 what her answer is he's trying to help her as best he can and she goes

00:05:14.620 no no no not to my knowledge there's not even much of a smile there at the end it's just not

00:05:20.380 to my lawyer told me to say not to my knowledge can we please go back to talking about happy

00:05:24.940 topics like al-qaeda can we talk about that some people did something those really happy topics

00:05:31.020 instead of parse her answer here because the left is lying about what she said

00:05:36.620 The left is saying, no, no, no, no, Michael.

00:05:39.000 He asked her, did you marry her brother?

00:05:41.640 And she rejected that.

00:05:42.760 But actually, hold on, she didn't.

00:05:45.260 He says, he goes, oh, can we please clear the air 1.00

00:05:47.320 on this stupid nonsense? 1.00

00:05:48.520 Maybe we can all dunk on Republicans here. 1.00

00:05:50.360 You know, these people have been saying for some years now

00:05:52.480 that you married your brother.

00:05:54.140 And what does she respond?

00:05:55.660 She says, well, it actually started with a Somali blog.

00:05:59.160 And then look at her body language.

00:06:00.600 She looks nervous, listen to her voice. 0.93

00:06:02.580 she's speaking in vocal fry which is a vocal vice common to millennials but frequently people will 1.00

00:06:10.120 speak in vocal fry which is just kind of when you're talking a little bit like this off of

00:06:14.380 your voice and it's kind of a little bit they'll do that when they're feeling a little bit nervous

00:06:18.960 when they don't feel confident in what they're saying uh and so she goes yes it was started

00:06:27.080 with a somali blog so all of a sudden we say okay hold on it wasn't the rnc wasn't trump wasn't the

00:06:33.920 republicans it was locals in her own community who said that she married her brother she goes yeah

00:06:42.460 and they and i mean come on i mean i i've never met these people well hold on we don't care about

00:06:48.480 these people we don't care about the somali bloggers what we're asking is did you marry

00:06:52.580 your brother. She goes, you know, I've never met these people. And it's just, you know, I mean,

00:06:58.100 it's insane. It's insane. What is it? What does it refer to? Is it insane that these Somalis,

00:07:07.780 these locals in your community made this accusation? Yeah, no, that's insane. It's wacky. 0.67

00:07:14.080 It's crazy, right, that they would do that. But is the claim true or false?

00:07:18.980 she doesn't say that it's false she doesn't come out here and say i did not marry my brother

00:07:25.680 the claim that they made is a lie she doesn't say that she goes yeah no these somali bloggers

00:07:31.920 made this accusation and i don't even know them no one asked if you know them and anyway yeah

00:07:37.160 the whole thing is just insane uh but you know and so chris hayes is clearly a little weirded

00:07:43.820 out by this answer but he's trying to help her he's trying to save the democrats here

00:07:46.500 so he says yeah but okay but there's no like you don't even you're not in any way related to this

00:07:51.820 person who's your husband right and she she really gets nervous she starts to speak then she kind of

00:07:57.280 stops speaking not to my knowledge not to my she doesn't even make a joke about it yeah not to my

00:08:04.540 knowledge i haven't seen him around the family reunion anytime soon so i guess you could read

00:08:08.880 that in one of two ways one you could say well actually all of us somalis are related to each

00:08:12.400 other there's a lot of inbreeding i don't think she's making that kind of a joke though

00:08:15.580 or she's using really specific legal language because she's in some legal hot water.

00:08:22.560 Now, notice what Chris Hayes doesn't ask. He doesn't follow up and ask, wait,

00:08:27.060 who is this guy that you were married to? Who is he? Okay, so you're not quite saying he's

00:08:31.820 not your brother, but I'm trying to say he's not your brother. Okay, so who is he? Because

00:08:35.880 here's Ilhan Omar's marital history. 2002, she gets married in a religious ceremony

00:08:41.780 to Ahmed Abdi Zalan Hirsi.

00:08:46.160 She applies for a civil marriage license,

00:08:50.480 never finishes.

00:08:51.860 So she marries this guy, at least religiously,

00:08:55.020 and never begins to marry him legally,

00:08:56.860 but never goes through the full process.

00:08:59.120 Then in 2008, she gets a religious divorce

00:09:02.880 from her husband, Ahmed Hirsi.

00:09:06.000 A year later, she legally marries a British citizen

00:09:09.920 named Achmed Noor Saeed Elmi.

00:09:14.420 2011, she gets a religious divorce from Elmi.

00:09:19.940 So that was a pretty quick marriage

00:09:21.360 from this guy from Britain

00:09:22.640 that we haven't seen in the picture before.

00:09:24.880 And then she reconciles with her first husband, Hersey.

00:09:28.980 But she never had a legal divorce from Hersey.

00:09:31.940 She never had a fully legal marriage with Hersey.

00:09:34.320 And then a year after that,

00:09:35.460 she has her third child with Hersey.

00:09:37.200 but she's still legally married to elmy so i know it's kind of hard to track but 2002

00:09:45.340 gets married mostly married to this guy hersey then kind of splits with him she's already got

00:09:52.840 two kids with him and then marries this other guy immediately afterward and then legally divorces

00:09:58.640 the other guy or sorry has a sorry it's a little confusing has a religious divorce from the other

00:10:04.500 guy has the third kid with the first husband who maybe never left the picture. They certainly

00:10:09.640 never got a legal divorce. 2012 has the third child with Hersey. Five years after that gets

00:10:16.200 the legal divorce from the second husband. Then 2018, a year after that, gets a legal marriage

00:10:23.940 to the first husband that she was religiously married to in 2002, that she got religiously

00:10:29.880 divorced from in 20, sorry, 2008. Had the third kid with in 2012. Legal marriage in 2018 to that

00:10:41.320 first guy. Then a year after that legal divorce from that guy who she just got married to. And

00:10:47.100 then at first sort of got married to 16 years prior. Year after that marries Tim Minette.

00:10:54.180 Did Ilhan Omar go to Cornell? Can you just, I know we're trying to figure out all this identity.

00:10:59.660 there's some question as to what her real name even is apparently. Is her name Elmi? Is it

00:11:04.200 Omar? But do we know, was she in a sorority at Cornell? Because from her marital history,

00:11:11.760 I'm beginning to wonder. I don't think she has a degree from Cornell, but the stories are getting

00:11:18.360 a little bit blurry. This is an interesting story, wouldn't you say? That Ilhan Omar appears to have

00:11:25.160 been married to multiple people at the same time and had kids with one guy while she was still

00:11:29.440 married to another guy and keep swapping the husbands. And so if the second husband, 0.99

00:11:36.200 first legal husband, is not her brother, at the very least, there is a big question as to who

00:11:41.460 this person is and whether or not Ilhan Omar was involved in some kind of weird reverse polygamy.

00:11:47.820 And surely a journalist would ask about that, right? That's a curious story. You got the Young

00:11:54.640 Turks promising to launch a sex scandals in October surprise on some Republican senator.

00:12:00.420 This is a way bigger sex scandal than anything the Young Turks are promising. 0.92

00:12:03.760 Nobody wants to ask about that. Why? Seems to me the simplest conclusion you could draw 0.63

00:12:09.500 is that this was some kind of immigration fraud. She never had any kids with the second husband.

00:12:15.000 She was only briefly religiously married to him. She was legally married to him for a longer time,

00:12:20.340 which would make sense if you were trying to commit immigration fraud. 0.99

00:12:23.420 She's clearly got some weird family dynamics to begin with because she legally marries the 1.00

00:12:27.920 father of her children and then divorces him shortly thereafter and marries some other guy. 0.97

00:12:34.700 Nobody wants to ask about that. Why? I don't think it's just to avoid a sex scandal. I think

00:12:39.940 it's a lot deeper than a sex scandal. I think unless Ilhan Omar can come up with a strong

00:12:45.400 defense of what was actually going on here, I think the simplest explanation, especially in

00:12:48.940 light of the federal investigation is, this chick committed immigration fraud, maybe multiple times.

00:12:56.300 And if I were her, I'd be very nervous. I would be speaking in vocal fry and using weird legalistic

00:13:01.260 language, even on a friendly news channel like MSNBC. Speaking of marriage, the Call Her Daddy

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00:13:13.420 is giving some encouraging words to married women, 0.91

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00:14:48.100 Do you know the Call Her Daddy podcast?

00:14:49.880 I've heard of it.

00:14:50.680 I've seen little clips occasionally. 0.98

00:14:52.640 I know it's debauched and disgusting and degenerate.

00:14:55.680 And I thank my lucky stars every single day for sweet little Alisa, my saintly wife,

00:15:01.840 a blessing from heaven who fell out of the sky.

00:15:04.860 I just do that ordinarily.

00:15:06.780 When I watch the Call Her Daddy podcast, I am brought down to my knees and I start weeping tears of joy that I have avoided the fate that these women are describing.

00:15:17.440 So here's the viral clip, more of Call Her Daddy than I've ever wanted to see.

00:15:21.140 The host talking to Sophia Bush, who is apparently an actress, about how important it is for women to remember that they can always leave their husbands and they should.

00:15:32.920 we can get really really in our heads about oh my god i feel like i'm maybe i shouldn't leave

00:15:40.820 this marriage because can i even get better and the answer is yes the answer is always yes and

00:15:47.560 this idea that it's too late or you're too old or who are you to want more that's patriarchy

00:15:54.300 that is crazy we don't need it we don't need it girls you got girl power you go girl

00:16:02.720 it's never too late to ruin your life. And you know what? She's right. She's right. This is

00:16:10.740 a really profound bit of wisdom that we should all hearken to. We should all remember not to do

00:16:16.340 what they think we should do, but just to remember this as a warning for our own lives.

00:16:20.660 It is never too late to ruin your life. You might have everything good going. You got a good job.

00:16:27.540 You got a good spouse. You got a nice family, nice house in the suburbs. You got it all, man.

00:16:32.720 you can ruin your life. Do not underestimate your ability to ruin your own life because God gives us

00:16:38.340 free will and he gives us abundant graces, but we have the freedom not to cooperate with those

00:16:42.760 graces and people can go south real, real fast. This is the Drew Clavin orange for a head joke.

00:16:50.160 No matter how good you got it, the perversity of the human heart is such that you might ask a

00:16:54.500 genie to have an orange for a head. You might try to screw it all up for any manner of reasons,

00:17:00.100 for money, for gluttony, for power, and certainly for lust because sexual desires are quite central

00:17:08.400 to human nature. So it's never, never too late to ruin your life. And that's especially true

00:17:14.240 if you have a bad ideology. Because notice what they're talking about here. They're saying,

00:17:17.280 you know, you're in this marriage. If you're ever asking, could I do better than my husband?

00:17:21.020 The answer is yes. So on the surface, that's not true. That's not true. And over time,

00:17:26.060 the older women get, the lower their dating stock falls. The same is not true for men,

00:17:33.420 but for women, it is true. The 22-year-old woman on the dating market is going to do a lot better 1.00

00:17:37.980 than the 32 or 42 or 52-year-old woman. It's just a fact. It's just how it works.

00:17:42.800 So they're denying reality. Liberalism and feminism are grounded in a denial of reality, 1.00

00:17:48.160 ultimately, and a desire to change reality and make it conform to our own wills.

00:17:52.400 So she says, it's never too late. If you even have the question, could I do better than my

00:17:55.920 husband? The answer is yes. So that's not true. However, in some circumstances, it might be true

00:18:03.960 in the sense that your husband's not perfect. Your husband, maybe he's a little fat. Maybe 0.96

00:18:09.700 he doesn't make enough money. Maybe he's a little short-tempered. Maybe he's a little lazy. Maybe,

00:18:14.080 I don't know. We're all broken. We're all fallen. It is certainly the case. They are observing a

00:18:19.460 fact of reality, that a woman could look at her husband and then look at some guy at work or look 0.93

00:18:25.100 at some guy on the street or some guy in church and say, that guy is better looking, richer,

00:18:31.900 nicer, more virtuous than my husband. He's better in all of these objective ways.

00:18:38.060 However, it does not follow that you should leave your husband for that guy.

00:18:42.260 It probably is not going to work out. And furthermore, it misunderstands what marriage

00:18:48.800 is. This clip has just gone viral again. A few months ago, I was in the UK. I was giving a

00:18:52.700 speech at the Oxford Union. And I went on Piers Morgan's show in person. And there was this very

00:18:56.760 nice guy. He was very funny. But he was a gay, kind of LGBT activist type guy. And Piers Morgan

00:19:02.920 had us face off for Pride Month. This was back in June. And we were going back and forth. And

00:19:07.760 it was kind of a funny conversation. But he couldn't get over the fact that I said that

00:19:13.200 marriage has a meaning. He said, no, no, why don't I have the right to get married? I said,

00:19:17.780 you do have the right to get married. You have the right that everyone has to get married, 1.00

00:19:20.140 namely to marry someone of the opposite sex because that's what marriage is. It's a natural 1.00

00:19:24.680 institution, marriage. And so it has a meaning. And if you try to change the meaning, you don't

00:19:29.540 expand marriage, you just abolish marriage or you minimize the importance of marriage.

00:19:33.740 But what is marriage? Marriage is a lifelong union with a member of the opposite sex ordered 0.99

00:19:40.020 toward the procreation and education of children. And so we focus on the children part of that a 0.98

00:19:43.500 lot. We focus on the sexual complementarity part of that. We don't focus as much on the lifelong

00:19:48.920 union part of that. Because you might say, well, people can get divorced. That's true. Someone

00:19:53.820 might lose his arm in an industrial accident. It doesn't mean that human beings normatively don't

00:19:58.240 have two arms. As a matter of nature, as a matter of telos, as a matter of just how things are

00:20:06.020 ordered to be, marriage is a lifelong union. And you know why? Because if you have a union of two

00:20:13.080 people of the opposite sex, even ordered toward the procreation of children, but it's not a

00:20:17.260 lifelong union, we have a term for that. It's called dating. It's called concubinage. We have

00:20:23.680 multiple terms for that. But the thing that distinguishes marriage from boyfriends and

00:20:28.800 girlfriends is that it is a lifelong commitment that you make in front of the public magistrate,

00:20:34.340 in front of God, in front of your community. That's what it is. So for the call her daddy

00:20:39.920 ladies to say, if the grass is looking greener on the other side of the fence, you can always

00:20:43.800 leave your husband and find some other guy. That's what you have to do to empower yourself. 0.98

00:20:48.340 What they are fundamentally misunderstanding is what marriage is. Of course, the question is,

00:20:51.860 why did you get married in the first place, lady? Why didn't you just keep dating this guy? 0.98

00:20:56.080 Very, very confused people. And they're confused ideologically and probably by their

00:21:00.600 disordered behaviors and habits and vices and desires. But in any case,

00:21:05.460 it's never too late to ruin your life and the people who believe in those ideologies and the

00:21:11.460 people who practice those kinds of bad habits are much more likely to ruin their life please avoid

00:21:17.940 becoming like anyone who has ever appeared on call her daddy okay speaking of weird sex stuff

00:21:22.180 cenk yuger of the young turks has a big october surprise apparently he tweets out just last night

00:21:30.520 we're going to drop a bombshell documentary on the Young Turks tomorrow morning called

00:21:36.520 The Closetocracy. Which US senator did we catch using male escorts? So right off the bat,

00:21:44.900 I don't know if I believe it. I don't know. Maybe it's a bombshell. People hype this stuff all the

00:21:49.440 time. Is it really persuasive? Did they really get a guy? Is it a living US senator? Is it some

00:21:54.140 US senator from like 30 years ago? I don't know. The Young Turks and everyone around it,

00:21:58.920 They got some weird sexual hangups, no doubt about it.

00:22:01.020 But I actually love the promise.

00:22:03.020 I love the promise of this October surprise.

00:22:06.360 If they really have the goods, it'll be annoying for Republicans.

00:22:08.940 But I love the way that he's promising, right?

00:22:11.340 What does he say?

00:22:12.840 The big, devastating reveal that's going to really damage one of my political opponents 1.00

00:22:18.580 is that he's gay, which is awesome.

00:22:23.100 And there's nothing wrong with that.

00:22:24.980 And it's to be celebrated. 1.00

00:22:26.260 and we should applaud him, except it's going to ruin his life because he's gay, which is really 0.99

00:22:32.500 good. And we support that. And that's great to be gay until it ruins his career. You homo. I mean, 0.99

00:22:41.300 that's what he's saying, right? And this is what they always do. In fact, we can go back to that

00:22:45.320 bit that I had on the Pierce Morgan show with the LGBT activist is I said, yeah, you know, 1.00

00:22:50.400 marriage is between a man and a woman and everyone's a little bit deviant or aberrant, 1.00

00:22:54.780 I guess, but you know, there are norms and we should endeavor to pursue those because of 0.96

00:22:58.900 morality and ethics and T loss and all that. And what did he say? You knew what he was going to

00:23:02.900 say right off the bat. He said, well, I bet if you oppose gay marriage, it must be because you're a 0.88

00:23:08.660 homosexual. I said, well, I'm not, I'm not a homosexual. I see why you might think it.

00:23:13.760 You know, I graduated from a very, uh, homosexual university and I like, uh, tap dancing and the

00:23:20.020 opera and I play ukulele. So I get it. I understand why you might think that, but I actually am not. 0.86

00:23:24.780 And he said, no, no, no, you must be because you oppose gay marriage.

00:23:28.220 And I said, well, how interesting is it that whenever a conservative contradicts the sexual

00:23:36.080 revolution LGBT narrative, the first insult that the LGBT activists go for is to say you're 0.96

00:23:43.220 gay. 0.99

00:23:44.060 How interesting. 0.75

00:23:45.320 Because we, on the conservative side of things, we're not even using all particularly insulting

00:23:50.720 terms.

00:23:51.860 We're saying, look, there's a standard, and it's not good to deviate from the standard,

00:23:56.000 but it's a fallen world, whatever. We're the ones who are speaking in a much more tolerant way.

00:24:01.060 You're the ones who are using LGBT identity as an insult. And then what do they say?

00:24:07.760 They say, no, no, no, being gay is good. The problem is the hypocrisy. And you'd say, okay, 0.99

00:24:13.760 well, let's bring it back to Cenk Uygur. Cenk says, we caught this US senator who says that

00:24:17.420 supports reality when it comes to marriage and sexual ethics, but he sins. And you say, okay,

00:24:24.060 well, it could be hypocrisy. It's not necessarily hypocrisy. It could just be having a standard and

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00:24:46.920 we need to stop baking cakes for widows and orphans. But then there's a secret expose you

00:24:53.260 see from the Young Turks. And the expose reveals that that US senator actually does bake cakes for

00:24:59.540 orphans and widows. So he's a hypocrite. Would the senator's political opponents say, yeah, 1.00

00:25:06.600 he's a bad guy, see? Because of his hypocrisy. He said he doesn't bake cakes for widows, 0.99

00:25:11.120 but he really does. What a hypocrite. What an evil guy. No, he would never say that. 1.00

00:25:14.760 because the hypocrisy is not really the point.

00:25:19.040 It's the substantive matter that's the point.

00:25:21.420 And so when they come out there and they say, 1.00

00:25:22.800 ha ha, look at that homo, look at that gay Republican. 1.00

00:25:26.240 What they are saying is it's bad to be gay, 1.00

00:25:30.400 but we're only going to go after the right-wing guy who has a sex scandal, 0.98

00:25:35.700 not the left-wing guy, not the LGBT activist 0.97

00:25:38.040 who engages in the very same sex scandal. 0.53

00:25:41.280 Because why?

00:25:42.240 because they're defending the substantive behavior. 0.98

00:25:46.100 They're defending LGBTism as such. 0.83

00:25:50.420 That's what it's about. 1.00

00:25:51.880 So I get a kick out of it

00:25:53.580 because even in their attempts to attack family values,

00:25:58.500 social conservative kind of people,

00:26:00.400 they are acknowledging that the family values,

00:26:02.640 social conservative people are right

00:26:04.440 and that they even agree with them.

00:26:06.500 They're saying, yeah, the weird sex stuff is bad,

00:26:09.880 but we're only going to go after you for it because what because because you're our political

00:26:15.780 opponents i kind of like it there's a there is an accidental admission even in those kinds of

00:26:21.080 attacks now we'll see a chunk uger says that this big bombshell is going to be released today could

00:26:26.360 be released during the filming of this show so we'll see we'll see if they got the goods which

00:26:30.440 senator it is if the guy's even alive we'll find out in any case in any case if we can all agree

00:26:36.500 that doing weird sex stuff is bad,

00:26:38.420 I'll take that as a kind of a political win. 0.51

00:26:40.540 All right, speaking of October surprises,

00:26:43.140 there's a big follow-up here

00:26:44.140 from that bombshell ad

00:26:45.940 in the Ohio gubernatorial race

00:26:47.860 where Vivek Ramaswamy's campaign

00:26:50.940 posted an ad of Amy Acton's mother,

00:26:54.420 her own mother, 0.99

00:26:55.300 saying that her daughter's a liar 0.99

00:26:56.440 and Ohio voters shouldn't vote for her. 0.95

00:26:58.300 There's been a lot of controversy

00:26:59.700 about this advertisement.

00:27:01.500 President Trump and J.D. Vance

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00:29:15.240 The Ramaswamy campaign by dropping that ad, which is now controversial because you got the mom 0.80

00:29:22.140 of Amy Acton saying, my daughter's a liar. She's lied about her supposedly bad childhood. Then Amy 0.99

00:29:28.380 Acton comes out and says, I'm not lying about the bad childhood. And National Review comes out and

00:29:31.600 says, actually, you know what? There are court documents that show that Amy Acton really did

00:29:35.800 have a very, very bad childhood, severely abusive, neglect, all sorts of things. So they say, okay,

00:29:41.560 well, now that ad, it's too harsh. It's not right. It's going to turn voters off. Okay.

00:29:47.180 What do we do about this?

00:29:48.100 This is a razor-thin margin here for the Ohio governor race.

00:29:52.840 This could compromise the Ohio Senate race.

00:29:56.280 This could transform the entire balance of power in the federal government because of the U.S. Senate.

00:30:01.980 So what are the Republicans going to do?

00:30:03.480 Are they going to come out and say, hey, we don't like this ad.

00:30:06.520 One of the many political ads, let's say, we don't like this ad that the Ramaswamy campaign came out. 0.90

00:30:10.260 Therefore, vote for the child castrators. 0.98

00:30:14.000 Therefore, vote for the candidate who wants to murder all the babies. 0.96

00:30:17.120 Therefore, vote for the candidate who wants to imprison all the Republicans. 0.63

00:30:20.280 Therefore, vote, is that it?

00:30:21.580 Are we going to switch our preferred type of government, our preferred policy agenda,

00:30:31.020 which pertains to the common good, because we don't like this advertisement on TV?

00:30:35.880 Here's what the vice president says.

00:30:43.140 You hear the chants at the rally. They're saying, Vivek, Vivek, Vivek.

00:30:51.860 That's pretty good, though. I got to say, that makes me a little bit jealous when people

00:30:56.300 chant anybody else's name but mine. So he's out there. He's not just stumping for Republicans

00:31:03.100 generally. He's stumping specifically for Vivek. He comes out there. He says, look,

00:31:08.580 Vivek's campaign has been saying from the beginning that Amy Acton is lying on a lot

00:31:11.900 of big issues. And Amy Acton was the COVID czar in Ohio. Amy Acton has a lot of problems. She'd

00:31:18.060 be a horrible governor for Ohio. So let's keep our eyes on the prize. Let's not focus on

00:31:22.060 controversies about advertisements, whether this hit was too harsh or it was wrong to use this

00:31:27.340 person or this or that. Okay, you can have those debates, whatever, but let's keep our eyes on the

00:31:31.100 prize. This is about what kind of government we're going to have. This is about what kind 0.82

00:31:34.200 of society we're going to live in. And so he's very explicit. He was like, you have to go out

00:31:38.060 there and vote for Vivek. It's not just the vice president, J.D. Vance. The president asked the

00:31:43.320 same question. Well, I guess, you know, it was about a Republican. I could guarantee you that

00:31:48.920 let it go. So that's why you're asking. The fact is, I know nothing about it. But I hear the mother

00:31:54.960 went very rogue on the daughter, doesn't have a lot of respect for the daughter. And I think the

00:32:00.980 mother is a witness to things also. So who knows? And you have to figure that out. It's a very

00:32:06.800 unusual situation to have a mother hate a daughter that much but i don't think that has anything to

00:32:12.500 do with vivek okay so it's vivek's ad seems to know quite a bit about the ad so i love jake

00:32:23.340 tapper's reaction like that's all you're gonna give me um hold on it's vivek's ad in the race

00:32:28.060 but when trump says i don't think it has anything to do with vivek look maybe he's saying i don't

00:32:32.580 know look i don't know that much about this advertisement initially we didn't even know

00:32:35.400 where the ad came from, so forget about that. There is a deeper political statement, though,

00:32:41.100 that Trump is making, which is, okay, look, you might hate the ad. You might think it's below

00:32:45.680 the belt. You might think it's unfair. You might think it's wrong to call attention to Amy Acton's

00:32:50.500 family, period, because her mother clearly has some serious problems, and Amy Acton did have

00:32:55.840 this very bad childhood. And there's just broader dysfunction in the Acton family. Apparently,

00:33:01.320 there have been multiple 911 calls from Amy Acton's own daughter about domestic disputes

00:33:07.740 at the Acton house and whatever. Again, I'm kind of with Trump on this, which is like,

00:33:12.120 it's not really the point. That's not what I'm interested in. Whatever consternation and okay,

00:33:18.800 whatever. Just put that over to the side here. When Trump says that has nothing to do with

00:33:23.080 Vivek, the deeper political read of that beyond whose advertisement was it and okay, Vivek's

00:33:28.040 campaign took responsibility for the advertisement, whatever. The deeper point is, what is this race

00:33:33.180 really about? Vivek is running to defend pretty normal political ideas, to defend things like

00:33:41.720 free speech, to defend things like property rights, to defend things like sovereignty,

00:33:45.660 to defend, that's what he's running. He's running on a pretty basic conservative Republican platform,

00:33:51.060 okay? And that, when you vote, what you're voting for is what kind of government you are going to

00:33:55.420 have. And it does kind of relate to the national level because it relates to the Senate race,

00:33:59.980 which could transfer the balance of power in Congress. And so that's what you're voting on.

00:34:05.360 You're not, or you shouldn't be voting on personalities. You shouldn't really be voting

00:34:10.280 on family drama. You shouldn't really be voting on your emotional reaction to an advertisement.

00:34:15.540 Again, there are plenty of people who are swayed by those things. But for the majority of us,

00:34:20.140 we're voting for what kind of government we want to have, what kind of civilization,

00:34:23.940 what kind of society we want to live in. And that's really what the race should be about. 0.98

00:34:28.400 So was this the right call for the vice president and the president to come out and say, hey,

00:34:32.880 you still got to vote for the Republican, even if you don't like the ad. If you do like the ad,

00:34:36.300 it's no problem. But if you don't like the ad, the campaign, our system of government is not

00:34:42.560 about what kind of advertisements you like. The question is, who should be running the government

00:34:47.380 under what policies, to what purpose, to what end. And these days, the stakes could not be

00:34:53.940 clearer. On the one hand, you have candidates who want to chop off the genitals of little children, 1.00

00:35:00.140 murder little babies, flood the country with foreigners, give the foreigners amnesty, 0.98

00:35:05.300 give the foreigners welfare, undermine our Supreme Court, our checks and balances, 1.00

00:35:11.500 our whole constitutional order, and then try to intimidate. This is Alyssa Slotkin sitting 0.99

00:35:17.020 Democrat senator, try to intimidate every Republican, prosecute them if they can,

00:35:21.860 strike fear into the hearts of every young conservative to say you should never work

00:35:25.040 on a conservative campaign ever. You got that on one side and you got the people who want the good

00:35:31.280 normal policies on the other and maybe they post an ad you don't like. Is that really a difficult

00:35:34.860 decision? I don't think it is. I don't find that to be a difficult decision at all. I think the

00:35:40.040 president, vice president made a good point here. So let's get to some of those extreme policies

00:35:43.300 because they're not hiding the ball.

00:35:44.540 El Syed, Tallarico, they're not hiding the ball.

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00:38:03.240 I did not pick the comment yesterday.

00:38:04.900 this is from the producers. We'll see if they guessed right. This comes from Ramon Alligator.

00:38:09.540 I can't wait to hear from the left. I don't care that she married her brother. Yeah, 1.00

00:38:12.720 we're not quite there yet. We're still at, this is ridiculous. She didn't really marry her brother. 0.91

00:38:18.380 It will then get to, well, who cares if she married her brother? That's none of your business.

00:38:21.860 Get your policies out of people's bedrooms, okay? You Bible-thumping social conservatives.

00:38:30.900 Oh, what? 0.92

00:38:32.320 Now we got to live in a fascist theocracy where you get to impose your Christian beliefs that

00:38:37.800 we shouldn't marry our brothers on all of us while being married to other people and 0.71

00:38:42.620 having, you shouldn't be in an incestuous polycule with multiple men having children

00:38:50.580 with, oh, what? 0.82

00:38:52.280 Because you're a Christian nationalism? 0.75

00:38:54.060 We're almost there. 0.87

00:38:54.640 We're not quite there yet.

00:38:56.380 It's an incisive comment.

00:38:57.460 Okay.

00:38:57.600 Okay, Abdul El-Sayed asked in one of these candidate fora, if you are elected, get past all this. 0.54

00:39:06.000 Are you in the Muslim Brotherhood? Are you a jihadi? Are you a this? Are you a that?

00:39:09.220 Just I want to focus on the issues. Will you destroy the Supreme Court?

00:39:14.380 We just need a yes or no answer on this.

00:39:17.560 Congressman Rogers, are you in favor of expanding the U.S. Supreme Court? Yes or no?

00:39:22.460 No.

00:39:22.660 Dr. El-Sayed, same question to you. Are you in favor of expanding the U.S. Supreme Court,

00:39:27.700 yes or no? Yes, but fairly. But fairly. How, Mr. El-Sayed, would you like iced coffee? Yes,

00:39:37.280 but it better be piping hot. Mr. El-Sayed, do you want to go for a swim in the pool? Absolutely,

00:39:44.360 but it better be in the sands of the desert. You cannot expand the Supreme Court today

00:39:50.680 in a fair way? Because the follow-up question is, why do you want to expand the Supreme Court?

00:39:55.520 And the answer is they want to expand the Supreme Court because the Supreme Court for the last

00:39:58.540 several years has been giving them decisions that they don't like. When the Supreme Court

00:40:03.000 for decades was giving them decisions that they do like, then they did not want to expand the

00:40:08.440 Supreme Court. It's not that they want to expand the Supreme Court because of some profound principle.

00:40:12.880 They want to expand it in order to bring it into line and bring the Supreme Court to become

00:40:18.860 subservient to the Democrats in Congress, which is a fundamental attack on the Supreme Court.

00:40:25.440 So it can't be fair. You want to expand the Supreme Court. Now, we've expanded and restricted

00:40:29.900 the Supreme Court in the past. That's the line that all the Democrats want to go to.

00:40:34.160 But the devil's in the details there. By the way, it's not just Al-Sayed. James Tallarico

00:40:37.080 asked the same question, gives an even more honest answer. If you win this, should our voters

00:40:43.640 expect you to vote for or against adding Supreme Court justices, more than nine?

00:40:48.700 Well, I think the Supreme Court needs to be overhauled. We have seen that corruption has

00:40:53.280 infected the judicial branch just as it's infected the legislative and executive branches. And so

00:40:59.020 you're going to expect that I will vote for overhauls of the Supreme Court. That'll include

00:41:02.720 binding codes of conduct for our justices. It'll include term limits. And I'm open to a discussion

00:41:08.020 about expanding the number of justices. Yeah. Okay. So he doesn't do this. Yeah,

00:41:11.700 I'm going to expand it. But fairly, he still includes these little caveats about, well,

00:41:16.600 it's all about corruption. Yeah, what's the corruption? What's the corruption? Can you

00:41:20.160 point to any example of supposed corruption on the Supreme Court? No, the corruption is that

00:41:24.320 the Supreme Court said, hey, the Constitution doesn't give you a right to murder babies.

00:41:28.140 That's the supposed corruption. Jurisprudence for most of American history that got upended

00:41:34.360 in the 1970s by a bunch of radicals on the court that you had no problem with.

00:41:38.460 And then finally, decades later, they said, you know what?

00:41:40.680 If we're being honest about it, there's no constitutional right to slaughter little

00:41:45.480 innocent babies.

00:41:46.680 So, you know what? 0.92

00:41:47.560 We're going to leave that issue to the states. 0.97

00:41:49.020 We're not even going to ban abortion, which they should do. 0.88

00:41:50.960 They said, no, we're just going to leave it to the states.

00:41:53.120 What's the corruption?

00:41:55.020 They have no example of this.

00:41:56.900 So he says, yeah, we're going to do it.

00:41:59.060 We're going to overhaul the whole thing.

00:42:00.320 Not just expand it, but we're going to change it in myriad ways.

00:42:04.400 You can't do that in a fair way now.

00:42:06.200 And the reason why is, yes, in principle, you could change the number of justices.

00:42:11.240 We've done it in early American history.

00:42:13.300 But the number of justices has been set at nine since 1969.

00:42:18.760 So for the majority of American history, 157 years, the Supreme Court justice number has been fixed.

00:42:25.440 And it got changed a little bit during the Civil War, during a major national cataclysm in the very early days of the republic in order to just try to work out the kinks of the government.

00:42:34.780 but other than literal civil war and the early days of refining the system of government,

00:42:41.680 you know, around the time when we didn't even quite know if we had judicial review yet,

00:42:45.760 around those times we changed it. But really since then, it's been set at nine.

00:42:50.160 The last time that the libs tried to change the court, it was under FDR and they tried to change

00:42:54.800 the number for the same reason they're doing it today, because they knew that their legislative

00:42:58.320 program was illegal. The court was fulfilling its duty as a check on the appetites reflected in the

00:43:04.440 legislative branch and on the spirited part of the executive branch. And they said, no,

00:43:09.800 we have to be the logical check on that. That is the system our framers gave us,

00:43:13.540 drawing upon Montesquieu and even parts of the classical legal tradition. And these guys are

00:43:17.980 saying, nope, forget about that. No checks and balances, no nothing, no logical part of the

00:43:22.720 government. You do what we want, tyranny of the will. This is the stuff they're saying openly.

00:43:29.540 then you have elissa slotkin saying by the way we're going to persecute every republican in

00:43:38.080 the entire country anyone who's within a 10 000 mile blast radius of trump we're going to scare

00:43:42.640 18 year old college kids into never wanting to work on a republican campaign because we'll ruin

00:43:48.380 their families and send them to prison if they ever think about it she's saying this on camera

00:43:52.840 this is what we're up against which is why it is really really crucial for you to go out there and

00:43:59.000 vote, vote early, vote often, and whatever your hang up. So I don't like this candidate because

00:44:03.080 he said this thing. I don't like this candidate because I don't like the cut of his jib.

00:44:06.380 This guy should be more conservative. This guy should be less conservative. I don't like this

00:44:10.200 brutal attack ad, for instance. I don't like this. I don't like that. Do you know what the

00:44:15.120 stakes are? Do you know what we're up against? Do you know what they're openly promising to do?

00:44:18.820 I'm not even doing that thing that Republican campaigners do, which is this. The midterm

00:44:24.080 elections of 1998 are the most important election in our lifetime. I'm not even, I'm not doing that

00:44:29.900 thing. I'm just playing clips of what they themselves are promising to do. Blow up the

00:44:35.760 Supreme Court, persecute every Republican in the country, chop off kids' genitals, kill all the 1.00

00:44:40.360 babies, give amnesty to tens of millions of illegals, give statehood to Washington, D.C., 0.99

00:44:45.400 permanently upending the balance of power in the country, or at least upending it for the

00:44:49.160 foreseeable future, preventing Republicans from winning a presidential election again.

00:44:52.380 This is the stuff they're running on openly.

00:44:56.020 So I think we got to keep our priorities in order.

00:44:58.280 Okay.

00:44:59.520 Speaking of extreme liberalism, there's a PSA that was going viral yesterday.

00:45:03.500 It's out of Ireland.

00:45:04.820 And you see in similar dynamics here in the United States,

00:45:07.860 this PSA comes from the Dublin Rape Crisis Center.

00:45:10.840 And it wants to remind grandparents that they should not hug their grandchildren.

00:45:22.380 Granny, granddad.

00:45:24.180 Glad to see you.

00:45:25.600 The grandkid hugs the grandparents.

00:45:27.900 Glad to see you.

00:45:29.660 Glad to see you.

00:45:30.940 Oh, it's miserable.

00:45:33.700 Not everyone wants a hug, even from the people who love them.

00:45:37.960 Awkward.

00:45:38.760 We consent, not everyone wants a hug, even from the people who love them.

00:45:41.460 Awkward may be important.

00:45:43.040 Absolutely.

00:45:44.260 Weconsent.ie.

00:45:45.680 So this is a strange ad.

00:45:47.320 Because one, just right off the bat, you have the grandparents come in,

00:45:51.060 one of the grandkids goes to hug the grandparents. But then there's this other grandkid. But the

00:45:56.880 other grandkid is a different race. So a grandkid could be adopted. I don't know. I mean, that was

00:46:02.040 clearly a choice in the advertisement was to make the other grandkid look like she's not a member 0.99

00:46:07.640 of the family. And that's weird. And that's not really explained. And that isn't given a narrative

00:46:12.600 meaning or, okay, whatever. That's like pretty weird off the bat. Is the ad saying grandparents

00:46:18.560 can hug their grandkids, but not if they're black. I don't know, that's, okay, I don't know, 1.00

00:46:22.560 whatever it is. The other grandkid clearly hates her grandparents, so who doesn't want to hug them?

00:46:29.280 And the ad says, Granny should never presume to hug a grandchild unless she gets affirmative 0.90

00:46:39.580 consent. Hello, dearie, do you, can you please sign this sworn affidavit saying that you wouldn't 0.95

00:46:46.920 mind if granny gives you a little peck on the cheek and a nice little cookie well granny i don't

00:46:52.900 know i'm gonna have to talk to my lawyers about that i haven't decided i gotta i want to retain 0.71

00:46:56.320 all my rights and so i can't tell might lose some leverage if i let you give me a nice little peck

00:47:01.000 on the cheek and a cup cookie uh but hold on all right you know what granny that's fine hug hug hug 0.60

00:47:07.160 okay that's it but next time you want to hug me you're gonna have to you're gonna have to get

00:47:10.720 another signed form again is that the society we want to live in i don't think so however we can

00:47:16.700 all make fun of this advertisement this is the logical and inevitable conclusion of political

00:47:24.320 liberalism i want to paint with too broad a brush but i am i guess i will uh liberalism says that

00:47:32.500 the fundamental unit of society is the individual and liberalism again not the liberalism of john

00:47:37.940 milton and john locke but with the kernels of this liberalism in there liberalism ultimately says

00:47:43.600 that the only moral criterion that we can truly rely upon is consent. I exclude John Locke and

00:47:52.360 John Milton from this because it's fashionable these days for Democrats, slightly disillusioned

00:47:59.420 Democrats and establishment Republicans to call themselves classical liberals. It's very

00:48:04.440 fashionable to call themselves classical liberals. However, if you actually read the writings of the

00:48:10.380 original liberals, the classical liberals, John Milton, John Locke, you would conclude that these 0.95

00:48:15.460 people were theocrats, white supremacists, deeply sexist. Today, the people who call

00:48:23.780 themselves classical liberals, if they actually held the views and advanced the policies of the

00:48:32.800 original classical liberals, they would be fascists. They would be the most radically

00:48:38.780 right-wing people in the world. However, that doesn't let liberalism off the hook or it doesn't

00:48:45.400 dismiss the liberal project as completely incoherent or lacking in principles because

00:48:49.800 there is a line from the classical liberals to the jokesters today who call themselves classical

00:48:55.760 liberals, which is this sense that society is ultimately about the individual, the rights of

00:49:02.840 the individual rather than the obligations of the human being in society. And it's about

00:49:08.820 the chief moral criterion of consent rather than duty, holiness, hierarchy, order,

00:49:17.960 traditional moral order received from tradition and through reasoning about the natural law.

00:49:23.580 And okay, it's just about consent. Okay, if that's the case,

00:49:27.560 why wouldn't a grandkid have the right to refuse a hug from granny? 1.00

00:49:33.840 I don't think a grandkid has the right to refuse a hug from granny.

00:49:36.760 I don't think a grandkid has the right to talk back to granny.

00:49:39.400 I think you need to revere and honor your elders. 0.61

00:49:43.860 I think you have obligations to your family.

00:49:46.740 I'm a conservative.

00:49:48.160 I'm not a liberal.

00:49:49.320 I'm not a classical kind of liberal.

00:49:50.820 I'm not a modern kind of liberal.

00:49:52.400 I'm not an intermediate kind of liberal.

00:49:54.480 I'm a conservative.

00:49:55.840 So that's what I think.

00:49:57.240 I think the grandkid needs to shut up and do what he's supposed to do and be nice to granny.

00:50:02.420 But if you're a liberal, you wouldn't say that. 0.96

00:50:06.380 You'd say, well, no, maybe granny was a bad granny. 0.99

00:50:09.140 Maybe granny didn't get you what you wanted for Christmas last year.

00:50:12.200 Maybe you're just feeling the ick today, and you just don't want to be touched,

00:50:16.060 and it's your body, your choice.

00:50:17.920 I don't believe in my body, my choice.

00:50:19.560 I don't think we own our bodies.

00:50:20.960 I don't think that we, as human beings, are separable from our bodies in this life.

00:50:25.800 We just have a fundamentally different view of the human person and of the world.

00:50:31.460 but you can see. When you speak about some other issues, you say, oh, the classical liberal and

00:50:37.760 the conservative, they're basically the same. But when you take those ideas to their logical

00:50:42.700 conclusion, as must occur in history, as must occur, because ideas do have a kind of momentum,

00:50:51.060 inertia to them, you see a big difference. That ad out of Ireland and a conservative ad,

00:50:58.340 totally, totally different. Which way, Western man, will you hug your granny? 0.72

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00:51:29.020 So cool.

00:51:56.680 Professor.

00:51:58.340 Let me out!

00:52:05.940 You will remember your duty.

00:52:07.940 This isn't heroism! 1.00

00:52:09.940 You useless sot. 1.00

00:52:11.140 You sit there and shake because you're dependent on drink. 1.00

00:52:13.940 Your sick is all over you.

00:52:15.940 Have you ever seen a child starve to death, Professor? 1.00

00:52:21.940 No.

00:52:22.940 I have.

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