The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 2092 - Conservative Journalists CHARGED For Exposing Minnesota Voter Fraud

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00:01:23.840 America's most famous lesbian bar is closing up shop just two months after relaxing its mandatory

00:01:29.940 mask policy six years after the COVID pandemic. Lesbians, huh? I'm Michael Knowles. This is the 1.00

00:01:36.600 Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:53.840 Welcome back to the show. I know that the left wants us all to be complaining about

00:02:01.200 President Trump's ballroom or something. I know that the big issue of the campaign

00:02:05.780 is supposed to be some joke Trump made one time that makes a referendum on the government.

00:02:12.780 When we turn to real issues, did you know violent crime is down by over 25% since President Trump

00:02:19.200 took office, that it continues to plummet. That seems more important to me. I think the ballroom

00:02:24.240 is good, too. But when we get to real issues, things are actually going quite well. We'll get

00:02:29.720 to that in a second. First, though, looks like the Democrats are once again attacking conservative

00:02:35.880 journalists. We hear so much from the left about the vaunted, wonderful fourth estate,

00:02:42.340 the sacred journalists who preserve our democracy. But then the moment that journalists start doing

00:02:49.280 real journalism, like they speak actual truth to actual power, all of a sudden those guys find

00:02:55.600 themselves on the wrong end of left-wing prosecutors. That is what has happened to my

00:03:00.560 friends James O'Keefe and Cam Higbee for exposing potential voter fraud in Minnesota. Here is

00:03:06.760 James in his own words describing the prosecution.

00:03:36.760 two individuals, James O'Keefe and Cameron Higbee, with felony counts of unlawful voting

00:03:43.660 and identity theft. In the report we did, we clearly stop and walk away before any voting

00:03:49.640 ballot is even touched. Thank you so much, Matt. Thank you. We go get to Mohammed. We come back.

00:03:55.240 A group of people were attempting to cast doubt on the state's vouching system. I think it's

00:04:00.560 pretty clear they did not intend to vote. Okay, so hold on. That seems like a crucial point there

00:04:06.160 right at the end, right? The prosecutor says, now, look, we don't believe that these journalists

00:04:10.560 actually intended to vote. Therefore, they did not intend to commit voter fraud. And they certainly,

00:04:16.820 if they didn't intend it, they certainly didn't do it. You might have seen a little clip in there

00:04:22.360 of James dressed up like a Muslim. And James was dressed up like a Muslim to expose some of the 1.00

00:04:29.760 potential pitfalls, especially in Minnesota, as regards the vouching system. What is the 0.99

00:04:36.360 vouching system in Minnesota? Here again, James O'Keefe and Cam Higby.

00:04:42.020 I'm James O'Keefe, and this is Vouching for Seven Other Muslims at a Minneapolis polling booth.

00:04:48.700 We're going in to this location, and I'm going to say that I'm vouching for them. The name

00:04:53.600 is William Lawrence. The question about the vouching program, yeah, vouching. I can vouch for

00:05:00.320 them, but they are not registered. That's okay, that's fine. Can I bring five more from up to

00:05:08.100 eight people? Okay, that's a good thing. We go back and we get Marishno and Ernesto and Mohammed.

00:05:16.100 In Minnesota, you can show up on election day and vouch for up to eight unregistered voters. 0.68

00:05:21.880 Members of the Justice League dress up in traditional Muslim attire, including a transgender wearing a burqa, and put this vouching law to an extreme test on primary day, August 11th. 0.83

00:05:34.900 Gonna be a baller, shot caller, 20-inch blades on the impala. 0.98

00:05:41.220 So pretty strange system. You can show up unregistered to vote, show up on election day, say, hey, I'm not registered to vote.

00:05:48.540 That guy's definitely not registered to vote, but don't worry, I vouch for him. 1.00

00:05:51.740 So I'm so pleased right now to be joined by that burka-clad, transsexual, pseudo-Muslim, Cam Higby. 1.00

00:05:59.960 Cam, thank you for coming on the show. 1.00

00:06:02.480 Thanks for having me, Michael.

00:06:04.060 So you're a criminal now, at least according to the left-wing prosecutors.

00:06:08.320 I thought you were just a journalist.

00:06:10.600 I thought in the words of that prosecutor herself, you had no intention whatsoever of actually casting a ballot.

00:06:17.580 I thought you were just doing what journalists are supposed to do. But for that, you now find

00:06:24.380 yourself charged with a felony. Is that right? Yeah, well, it seems that the only real criminals

00:06:29.780 in the state of Minnesota are the people that challenge the state. Because I have watched so

00:06:34.580 many crimes be committed in the state of Minnesota, and none of them were prosecuted. Nick Sorter and

00:06:39.280 I were almost killed outside of the Whipple building, the federal building in Minnesota

00:06:43.500 during the ice riots, and nobody was arrested. The state declined to arrest, or the county

00:06:48.520 declined to arrest anybody. But they apparently filed charges against James and I. It's preposterous.

00:06:54.100 So with regard to this particular alleged crime, what are they even charging you with?

00:07:01.520 I heard the prosecutor there say, look, no, they didn't actually intend to vote. What they

00:07:06.380 actually intended to do was just reveal this major vulnerability and openness to fraud in our system,

00:07:12.940 And they did it in a really over-the-top, flamboyant, ridiculous way, thereby underlining how serious this fraud is.

00:07:21.300 If you can have one of the whitest guys to ever walk the earth, James O'Keefe, come in with this Borat accent, dressed up like he's the Sheikh of Abu Dhabi. 0.96

00:07:30.060 And he comes in there and says, oh, can I bring all my Muslim friends to vote without being registered? 0.95

00:07:34.940 The Mohammed, Mohammed, Mohammed, Mohammed.

00:07:36.620 And they say, yes, absolutely. 0.93

00:07:38.060 Yeah, you can do it up to eight people, every single one of you.

00:07:41.340 What's the crime?

00:07:42.940 Well, they say I believe that they're saying we've committed voter fraud, which is just preposterous. We never cast a ballot. I would assume that to commit voter fraud, you'd have to cast. Yeah, we didn't vote. Never signed any affidavit. We never touched a ballot. We never even saw a ballot. We did not do anything illegal. But here we are.

00:08:01.660 This is obvious. And I would just want to hit this point home to this investigation we conducted

00:08:07.260 in August. So why does Hennepin County hold this until October 28th, just before the election?

00:08:15.160 Do they want to intimidate other independent journalists from investigating their elections

00:08:19.660 during the general election? Is that why? Because I can't think of any other reason why you'd hold

00:08:23.580 it that long. August to September to days before the election. This is what they call an October

00:08:29.840 surprise. And the surprise here is not just intimidating some Republicans, some politicians,

00:08:34.900 some activists, but it's journalists specifically. So I just want to make sure I have this right.

00:08:41.020 Not only did you not vote, so you didn't commit, you couldn't have committed voter fraud, you didn't

00:08:46.500 vote. You never signed any affidavit as you would when you apply to register. You didn't even touch

00:08:54.580 a ballot. Nope. Can you explain to me how you could possibly have committed anything even

00:09:02.240 vaguely resembling voter fraud? That'd be, I'd say that'd be a question for the prosecuting

00:09:08.460 attorney in Hennepin County, but unfortunately she's turned her comments off on her post. So

00:09:12.980 if you wanted to ask her that, you probably couldn't anyway.

00:09:16.380 Do you know her name? Do you know her handle? I sure would like to encourage people to ask her,

00:09:20.680 other citizen journalists to maybe ask this prosecutor some of the most basic questions

00:09:27.400 about the obvious political intimidation and persecution that she's engaged in as a partisan 1.00

00:09:33.060 hack. I believe it's Mary Moriarty. I believe that's the name. Her handle is like Hennepin 0.80

00:09:40.620 County District Attorney or something like that. Well, I would strongly encourage all of the

00:09:45.200 listeners and viewers today to, just in the interest of journalistic integrity and good

00:09:50.040 government to maybe ask this prosecutor what on earth she's doing. Because the nearest case,

00:09:59.240 I'm trying to steel man their argument. I guess the nearest case you could possibly make is that

00:10:05.520 James is doing most of the talking. You, obviously, you were a little busy being

00:10:10.020 clad in that burqa, and usually ladies in the Islamic countries, they're a little more quiet 0.98

00:10:13.840 in public. So James is out there, and he's chatting, and he pretends to be a different 1.00

00:10:19.300 person, just as he's talking to whoever this lady is at the election facility. Now, there's a very

00:10:27.460 simple way to make sure that people don't pretend to be people that they are not at elections. And

00:10:33.620 that would be to require them to prove their identity, which is what we do in most elections

00:10:39.820 around the world. This is a pretty basic level of voter security. It's been a really hot topic

00:10:45.540 for the left and right in America for the last 10, 15 years or so.

00:10:50.640 The left has argued that it would be a violation of our sacred democracy

00:10:53.820 if you ever asked anyone to prove who he is.

00:10:57.120 But if you don't, how do we know that there aren't a million James O'Keefe's

00:11:03.720 who are not journalists?

00:11:05.120 There aren't a million Cam Higby's who are not journalists,

00:11:08.120 who are actually trying to sign the affidavit and touch the ballot and vote.

00:11:13.000 How do we know that the conservatives weren't completely right about voter fraud,

00:11:16.920 especially in left-wing strongholds like Minnesota?

00:11:20.540 Yeah, well, I mean, it would be super easy to pull off in Minnesota because you don't need an ID to vote.

00:11:26.100 And you also don't need an ID to vouch for eight additional people who are unregistered.

00:11:30.060 So these are people who are completely unknown to the state.

00:11:32.580 They show up.

00:11:33.880 They're not registered to vote.

00:11:35.620 For all intents and purposes, the state has no idea they even exist, or they could have no idea that they exist.

00:11:40.540 they show up and I say, hi, I'm here to vouch for my eight people. I never have to show ID to vouch

00:11:47.720 for those people. Those people register same day and they cast a ballot. I interviewed three

00:11:51.900 separate Minnesota election judges. And from what they told me, there is no provisional ballot.

00:11:58.180 So when that person, when you, when you vouch for eight people, they cast their ballot and that

00:12:03.740 ballot is counted. It is a real ballot. No ID has to be shown from any of the parties involved.

00:12:09.080 And if you work at a housing building, like an apartment complex, you can vouch for unlimited people.

00:12:18.820 Unlimited. Unlimited potential for fraud. I contrast this with Tennessee.

00:12:24.020 I was actually disenfranchised in an election by the government.

00:12:27.540 And this was because of some legitimate issues like moving and timing.

00:12:36.800 But there were actual like errors at the level of the government that disenfranchised me from

00:12:42.060 voting in an election. I was very angry about this. It was super annoying. It was entirely

00:12:46.820 the government's fault. And yet I would much rather live in a state that takes election

00:12:52.440 security so seriously that I don't get to vote in an election one time. I would much rather

00:12:56.980 err on that side, on the side of security, frustrating as it is, than on the side of

00:13:02.380 a guy shows up, says some random name, never has to prove who he is, gets to vouch for seven,

00:13:08.460 eight other people totally unknown to the state. And then if he has a special office,

00:13:13.640 special authority, gets to vouch for unlimited people. That is a recipe for the collapse

00:13:18.640 of our government, of our form of government. Cam, I hope that they drop this ridiculous 0.98

00:13:26.300 political persecution. I hope and I'm confident that your journalism has called great attention

00:13:31.100 to this problem and the corruption of people like this prosecutor in Minnesota. And if they do throw

00:13:37.240 you in the can, you won't even have to convert to Islam as so many people do in prison because

00:13:42.080 you'll obviously already have the burqa. Thank you very much for your work. Where can people

00:13:46.440 follow you and James to stay up to date on this case? X is probably the best place. I think that's

00:13:55.920 where that'll be the quickest sort of avenue to information. I'm on all platforms, Instagram, X,

00:14:02.360 YouTube. James is the same. He's on all platforms as well, as well as his organization, O'Keefe Media

00:14:07.620 Group. Go follow them right now. All the platforms, MySpace, Zanga, LiveJournal, X, of course, Cam

00:14:13.560 Higby and James O'Keefe. Cam, thank you very much for coming on the show. Thanks so much for having

00:14:18.080 me. Really, really important work from those guys. The kind of political persecution you're

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00:15:19.440 Committee. Now, speaking of wearing masks, do you remember that lesbian bar in Massachusetts? 0.70

00:15:24.260 We covered this. I can't get through one show without some major headline about weird sex 1.00

00:15:30.180 stuff in the news. That's just the culture we live in. There is that lesbian bar in Massachusetts. 0.99

00:15:34.780 We covered it. Everyone covered it a few weeks ago. The lesbian bar got in hot water with its 0.92

00:15:39.980 clientele because they decided to lift mandatory masking. You say, mandatory masking? Yes, 1.00

00:15:46.240 the lesbian bar required everyone at all times to wear N95 masks, the kind of masks you saw during 0.99

00:15:54.480 COVID. But COVID was six years ago. But it turns out the lesbians were a little bit strange, 0.63

00:16:01.640 a little quirky, a little neurotic. I know, you'd never believe it. So they required them to wear 1.00

00:16:05.540 masks. But then this was affecting business. So one night a week, the lesbian bar decided they

00:16:11.280 were going to make masking optional. They didn't even say you can't wear masks. They didn't say 0.99

00:16:14.740 you couldn't do it all the time. They just said, one night per week, we are going to make masking

00:16:18.920 optional. And the lesbians revolted. This was Lysistrata levels of social shutdown. 1.00

00:16:26.900 They totally rebelled against the bar. Now the bar is shutting down. And no one knows the secret

00:16:34.320 to this story. Everyone's covering it. It's kind of funny. Look at those crazy lesbians. It's the

00:16:37.940 last-ditch bar in Greenfield, Massachusetts. I kind of want to buy it and open a Mayflower

00:16:42.540 cigar lounge there. I think it'd be really, really funny. I think it'd be exactly the opposite of the

00:16:47.880 masking. Lesbians are welcome. Lesbians like cigars sometimes, but you can't, no masks. Masks would 1.00

00:16:52.520 not be allowed. It's hard to smoke a cigar when you have a mask. The bar is closing. They announced

00:16:56.580 it on Instagram. It will shut down effective immediately, except for the previously booked

00:17:00.380 events. So this is a soft closing, but then they're closed. They say love and solidarity to

00:17:06.200 all. They're currently looking for new owners. If anyone would like to invest alongside Mayflower

00:17:10.980 in purchasing this bar. I'm open to proposals. But what is this really about? Everyone's getting

00:17:18.220 the story totally wrong. They think that the lesbian bar is closing because the bar changed

00:17:27.660 the mask rule. That's not true. The bar changed the mask rule because it was going to have to

00:17:35.360 close. And what is underneath this whole story is the bar was going to have to close because

00:17:42.340 lesbianism is in free fall. You heard it here first, or at least second. Lesbianism is in free 0.91

00:17:48.720 fall. I actually mentioned this on the story the other day. According to recent CDC Youth Risk

00:17:54.480 Behavior Survey data, lesbian and bisexual identification among teenage girls fell from

00:18:02.360 30% in 2021 to 17% in 2025. So specifically during the era of COVID, COVID was like peak

00:18:11.820 lesbian and B, G, T, L, M, N, O, P, is all the rest of the initialism. That was the peak of it. 0.93

00:18:20.420 You had 20, 30% of Gen Z identifying as LGBTQ plus, plus, plus. And then it's been on the

00:18:26.780 decline ever since. The gay male identity has held relatively steady, though it's declined a

00:18:32.220 little bit. Transsexual or transgender identity has collapsed. Bisexual identity has fallen 0.68

00:18:37.960 significantly. Pansexual and all the other totally preposterous ones has collapsed, 1.00

00:18:43.120 and lesbianism has collapsed as well. That is the issue. The people that are joking about this bar 0.94

00:18:48.880 in Massachusetts, they're getting the order totally backwards. They had to change the mask

00:18:53.100 rule because they weren't getting any business. They weren't getting any business because

00:18:56.800 wokeness generally is on the steep decline, and a subset of wokeness is this spike in lesbian 0.97

00:19:05.520 identity. Also, look, I remember in my single days, I get it. You go to a bar because you

00:19:12.840 want to talk to some women, but you don't want the bar to just be all women. And you definitely

00:19:16.900 don't want it to be all lesbians. It would be more disagreeable than average. It's not what 1.00

00:19:23.900 you want, especially you had the masks, and that's why. This is some good cultural news.

00:19:31.080 Now, we're not out of it yet, because the Dems are entirely in on LGBT, DEI, every single

00:19:37.860 initialism. They're all in on the woke stuff. AOC says, oh, haha, woke one was crazy, but we're in

00:19:43.500 woke 2.0. Woke 2.0 is identical to woke 1.0. So they want to bring this stuff back. But don't

00:19:49.240 lose sight of how bad things were and how much better they are now. This is my point. When we're

00:19:56.200 looking at President Trump, I'll skip ahead a little bit in the show. I was going to get to

00:19:58.480 this a little bit later. But violent crimes decreased by 25% in 2025. Trump is inaugurated.

00:20:07.640 Crime collapses. This is according to data from the DOJ. Violent crimes across most categories

00:20:13.580 dropped by at least 25% in 2025.

00:20:17.820 We don't have final data, obviously, yet on 2026,

00:20:21.120 but the decline has continued.

00:20:23.500 All the data that we have show that the decline has continued.

00:20:26.600 It wasn't just a blip for one year.

00:20:28.260 This corresponds exactly with the inauguration of President Trump.

00:20:32.260 Why?

00:20:32.720 Because the Democrats openly let all the criminals off the hook,

00:20:36.880 tried to let more criminals out of prison,

00:20:38.440 called for the very abolition of prisons.

00:20:41.480 They persecuted the innocent people,

00:20:43.580 and they let the criminals off the hook.

00:20:45.580 Trump comes in, he says, we're going to have law and order.

00:20:47.280 What do we do?

00:20:48.320 In as much as the federal government can affect this,

00:20:50.560 they started going after the criminals,

00:20:53.260 protecting the innocent people, crime goes down.

00:20:55.040 The other aspect of this,

00:20:56.400 this is where multiple issues relate to one another, 1.00

00:20:59.440 is that a ton of the crime is committed by immigrants

00:21:01.880 and specifically illegal aliens. 0.99

00:21:04.200 So just closing the border 0.98

00:21:06.060 and stopping 3 million illegals

00:21:07.300 from coming to the country every year,

00:21:08.820 just that alone is going to drop your violent crime rate.

00:21:12.240 When you add onto that,

00:21:13.420 the two and a half million, now more, two and three quarters million, almost three million

00:21:17.200 illegal aliens have been deported on top of legal immigrants who have left the country,

00:21:23.840 your violent crime rate is going to drop significantly. This is really, really good 0.87

00:21:29.540 news. And it's the kind of thing that we forget heading into the election. But look, dig into

00:21:35.280 these numbers. Last year, you saw a 31% reduction in aggravated assaults. That's a drop of 390,000

00:21:42.020 in raw numbers. 390,000 people were not assaulted last year, basically because of Trump. 25%

00:21:48.700 reduction in burglary or trespassing, almost half a million fewer. 30% decrease in motor vehicle

00:21:53.540 thefts, 350,000 almost fewer vehicles stolen. So the preliminary data we have for this year

00:21:59.100 shows violent crime down an additional 10.6%. We've got murder down another 23% on top of more

00:22:08.700 than 25 percent. Rape down almost 20 percent. Robbery is down almost 20 percent compared to the

00:22:14.100 same period last year, same period last year, which was already a decline. This is really good

00:22:18.960 news. And this is the kind of stuff, if I'm going to the ballot box and I'm not wearing a burqa or 0.99

00:22:23.580 Muslim garb like James O'Keefe and Cam Higby, if I'm going to the ballot box and I'm just casting 0.64

00:22:27.340 my ballot based on what kind of country I want, I'm thinking of a few things. Gas is a little more 1.00

00:22:32.260 expensive than it was last year. It is a little more expensive than it was last year. It's less

00:22:38.280 expensive than it was during Democrat governance, but okay, it's more expensive than it was last

00:22:42.540 year. And we got this war that most of the fallout's been managed, but okay, we don't like

00:22:48.400 the war. And what? What are the other complaints? DEI, basically over. Affirmative action, overturned.

00:22:59.540 LGBT pushed out of the schools. Immigration, moving net negative for the first time ever,

00:23:06.700 basically, first time in almost a century, things are looking pretty good. Violent crime weighed 1.00

00:23:12.520 down. I don't know. Things are looking pretty good. These are the kind of issues that I would

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00:23:37.340 We do not know very much about death.

00:23:39.720 We know less about death today than we did 500 years ago.

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00:25:43.980 Really just heartbreaking story all around. They were throwing some party there. I guess

00:25:48.740 the parents had been smoking pot and everyone thought someone else was looking after the kid

00:25:53.120 this happens this does happen a lot even if people aren't smoking pot they look over the kid is face

00:25:58.480 down in the swimming pool absolute nightmare fuel every parent's very worst nightmare so they get

00:26:03.920 the kid out of the pool the kid is still alive got one of the parents or one of the relatives

00:26:07.320 performing cpr they take the kid to the hospital hospital does everything it can and they say all

00:26:14.400 right, we're going to call it the kid's dead. Everyone is very, very sad about this.

00:26:19.660 They send the kid to the morgue. Now, already there's some questions. They see the kid is kind

00:26:26.100 of, kid seems to breathe a little bit, a little spasm here or there. But the doctors, the nurses

00:26:31.500 say, no, no, no, that's just kind of an illusion. Those are gasps that occur after death, but it's

00:26:38.720 not, it doesn't indicate that this kid is still alive. So they declare him dead. They put him in

00:26:42.660 the morgue. They go away. Five hours later, someone goes in to get the kid's body. And those

00:26:49.980 little last gasps and flinches that they said were just the aftereffects of death, they're still

00:26:55.320 going on because the kid's still alive. So then they come out to the parents. They say, hey, I

00:27:00.620 know we told you your kid is dead, but he's actually been alive in the morgue for five hours.

00:27:04.200 They take the kid out. They put him on life support. The kid is now still alive, though he

00:27:08.700 has obviously very, very severe problems. And the parents are certainly going to sue

00:27:13.760 and assume that putting the kid in the morgue really damaged his recovery. Now, of course,

00:27:19.920 if the kid was drowning in a pool, he might have had very serious brain damage without the morgue

00:27:25.460 incident. It's very sad. We should pray for the kid. We should pray for the parents and everyone

00:27:31.100 involved. What's interesting about the story politically is not so much this incident. It's

00:27:37.720 It's not so much the little details of how the kid ended up in the pool, the smoking marijuana, safety around kids and homes.

00:27:44.880 And those are all stories that other people can talk about.

00:27:47.700 What I find politically interesting here is we apparently don't know anything about death.

00:27:55.480 Even our doctors, even our medical professionals, even hospital systems don't seem to know what death is.

00:28:03.920 And this is a real social problem.

00:28:07.720 this happens sometimes a patient will be declared dead and then will be found out to be alive

00:28:15.560 but sometimes they catch it sometimes they don't you hear these stories of people being buried

00:28:21.300 alive what do you see that you hear about them throughout history two percent of hospital deaths

00:28:24.960 are brain deaths people are declared dead even while they're still breathing and their blood

00:28:30.440 is still flowing and so what is brain death we just assume that brain death is real death that's

00:28:35.920 why we check the organ donation box in the back of our driver's license. You're declared brain

00:28:39.920 dead. For most organ donation, it requires a brain death declaration because you still want 0.97

00:28:46.520 blood going to the organs, and then they harvest the organs, and they give them to people who

00:28:49.880 also might die. I have friends who have received organs, and thank God they did because now they're

00:28:54.060 alive. But what is brain death? Brain death is a concept invented in 1968 out of Harvard,

00:29:02.280 so I'm immediately skeptical of it. Comes out of the late 60s and out of Harvard. That's two

00:29:06.820 strikes. I assume whatever that is, is wrong. Brain death is a concept that developed

00:29:11.980 alongside the development of advanced organ donation, and it was very, very convenient.

00:29:18.560 Because for most organ donation, you can't do it if the person actually has died, because then

00:29:22.660 you don't have blood going to the organs, and the organs start to die immediately. And now they're

00:29:25.720 no good to the people who would receive them. So brain death is this medical definition that says,

00:29:31.180 okay, the person's heart is still beating, the blood is still flowing, there's still air going

00:29:35.040 to the lungs, but their brain activity has ceased. Except that's not true. I shouldn't laugh about

00:29:43.000 it. It's kind of macabre. But in 50 to 80% of cases of brain death, there is still brain activity.

00:29:49.280 In fact, when they check for brain death, they don't check all of the potential brain activity

00:29:53.160 going on. And what some of the medical professionals will say is, oh, you know,

00:29:56.620 it's minor brain activity. It doesn't relate to consciousness. The people are totally unconscious

00:30:00.680 us anyway. And you say, all right, well, just because a guy's unconscious doesn't mean you

00:30:03.240 can kill him. I mean, just because someone's in a coma doesn't mean you can go chop his head off. 0.99

00:30:08.120 Two, in a lot of those cases, the person is not actually unconscious. Sometimes they're locked in.

00:30:13.100 They are aware of what's going on. They can hear, and they just can't express that.

00:30:17.640 Three, there have been cases, we've covered them on the show, where people are, they're

00:30:21.960 declared brain dead. They go in to have their organs harvested. As the doctors start harvesting

00:30:25.980 the organs, they start screaming. They start moving. And sometimes the doctors in those cases

00:30:31.680 will stop and say, okay, maybe this person's not actually dead. And in some cases, then the patient

00:30:35.520 just goes home and lives for another five, 10 years. In some cases, though, they just keep

00:30:41.120 going. And they say the same thing that the nurses said in the case of this poor little kid. They say,

00:30:44.680 oh no, what looks like a breath, what looks like a flinch, what looks like a reaction to a stimulus,

00:30:49.500 that's actually just instinctual. It's reflexive. It doesn't indicate that the person is actually

00:30:55.400 still alive. This is a heartbreaking story all around, but it reflects a broader social problem

00:31:01.980 that we have and a broader political and anthropological problem, which is we are

00:31:06.020 really ignorant of death today. The average medieval peasant knew so much more about death

00:31:11.120 than the Harvard MD-PhD surgeon does today. Isn't that kind of crazy? But think about how we talk

00:31:18.480 about death. We murder babies in the womb. We pretend it's not death. The medieval peasant

00:31:23.660 knew that was death. Everybody knew that was death. You murder a baby that's like moving around, 0.82

00:31:28.800 looks like a baby, but now we tell ourselves that's not death. We murder granny in the hospital. 1.00

00:31:35.380 We help granny to kill herself, or in some cases, if granny has dementia, we just kill her. There 1.00

00:31:40.360 was that awful case that just came out on euthanasia where this woman was crying and praying

00:31:45.140 and asking not to be murdered, and they murdered her anyway through euthanasia. Euthanasia means

00:31:49.880 good death, but suicide is the very worst death because it means your final act on earth is

00:31:54.140 total despair. And in some cases, euthanasia is murder. That would be death. We have this idea

00:32:01.840 of brain death, which is not death. And in literally speaking in the case of brain death,

00:32:07.420 the thing that kills the patient is harvesting their organs. There's a much deeper bioethical

00:32:13.020 conversation to be had about it, but it's not. Whatever we call brain death is not actually death.

00:32:17.680 so much so that we're now putting little 18-month-old kids in the morgue.

00:32:21.960 Absolute nightmare fuel, but it should not just spook you as a crazy anecdote,

00:32:27.080 a kind of macabre news story for around Halloween.

00:32:30.180 It should spook you because this is our system.

00:32:34.540 This is how we think about humanity.

00:32:37.380 This is how we think about matters of life and death,

00:32:39.900 and we don't know very much about it.

00:32:41.640 We don't seem to know the purpose of life anymore,

00:32:43.360 and not to get too abstract and philosophical,

00:32:46.780 But the average medieval peasant that I was just telling you about,

00:32:49.740 that guy knew what the purpose of life was.

00:32:51.780 That guy knew he was going to die someday.

00:32:53.640 That guy knew that he ought to get his affairs in order.

00:32:56.260 That guy contemplated whether or not we actually end our existence at physical death

00:33:00.800 or whether there's an immaterial soul or whether there's such a thing as eternal life

00:33:04.560 or whether there's heaven or hell.

00:33:05.780 He thought about these questions.

00:33:07.260 He might come to his own conclusions about it. 0.64

00:33:11.000 Most medieval peasants came to the right conclusion,

00:33:12.980 but he at least took those questions seriously.

00:33:16.160 We, our geniuses, our billionaires, our intellectuals, in the modern liberal era,

00:33:22.300 we don't know that we're going to die.

00:33:23.820 We pretend that we're not going to die.

00:33:25.340 You have all of these super-duper life extension genius rich guys

00:33:30.060 who pretend that they're going to live forever by plugging their spinal cords into the computers.

00:33:35.580 They think they're going to upload their brains to the cloud.

00:33:37.680 They don't know what consciousness is.

00:33:38.900 They don't know what intelligence is.

00:33:41.320 This is why they don't know what artificial intelligence is.

00:33:43.680 it just stories like this so totally reveal the undeserved hubris of liberal modern man

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00:34:12.440 that was the story that dominated for the last five ten years we don't know the difference

00:34:17.560 between boys and girls now we don't know the difference between life and death how much 0.72

00:34:22.400 dumber can we get okay uh so much more i want to get to speaking of bioethics uh more bad news for

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00:36:11.380 is from MademoiselleSuite74,

00:36:14.120 who says, maybe assisted intelligence.

00:36:17.360 So we can still call it AI.

00:36:18.720 Yeah, I was mentioning yesterday on the show,

00:36:20.620 Trump is really into calling AI

00:36:22.100 SI, super intelligence.

00:36:24.180 And he's got a good branding point,

00:36:25.580 which is that no one likes anything artificial.

00:36:27.880 So artificial has a negative connotation

00:36:29.460 and we need the public to like AI

00:36:30.960 because we can't lose the AI race to China

00:36:34.060 because we're in a major cold war with China

00:36:35.380 and we can't lose the arms race.

00:36:36.640 That's the general context.

00:36:38.600 So, but the problem is that AI is not real intelligence.

00:36:43.840 It is artificial.

00:36:45.420 Like it's not, it could be as the intellect

00:36:46.820 is an immaterial substance.

00:36:49.260 It's not, it's like an artifact.

00:36:51.180 The AI is just an artifact.

00:36:52.600 It's just computers and cogs together.

00:36:53.840 And true intelligence is like ontologically different from that.

00:36:57.160 So I'm sympathetic to Trump's branding point,

00:36:59.160 But it has this ontological problem.

00:37:02.040 So assisted intelligence.

00:37:04.240 It's not intelligence, but you could say assisting intelligence,

00:37:08.560 assistant to intelligence, AI, that's something.

00:37:11.560 And everyone wants an assistant.

00:37:13.980 I want a bunch of assistants.

00:37:15.420 That's okay.

00:37:15.740 Maybe that's good.

00:37:16.320 I'm open to that.

00:37:17.020 Are there any other euphemisms for AI that are better branding, but not false?

00:37:22.560 Let's turn back to bioethics for a second.

00:37:24.500 for a long time i have pointed out that ivf and the surrogacy industry are just bad news they're

00:37:33.060 morally indefensible that was a very unpopular opinion i've caught a lot of flack from people i

00:37:37.100 don't mean it to be judgy i don't mean it to say that your niece or nephew or kid or grandkid who

00:37:43.040 is conceived through ivf is not a wonderful blessing from god and i i don't i don't mean it

00:37:48.540 to say that you're a horrible person if you've engaged in ivf a lot of people have engaged in

00:37:51.980 IVF. Most people haven't considered the bioethical implications, but I caught a lot of flack for

00:37:56.560 saying from the beginning that this is bad news and it's morally indefensible. And people used to

00:38:02.120 just throw rotten tomatoes virtually at me through the screen about it. Now I think a lot more people

00:38:05.980 are coming around to my point of view, which is not an original point of view. It's been the point

00:38:10.360 of view of serious bioethicists and coincidentally of the church from the beginning. It just doesn't

00:38:16.120 work because you are commoditizing human life. You're selling human life. You're establishing

00:38:20.580 the domination of science and technology over the origin and destiny of human life.

00:38:24.880 You're creating all sorts of problems. You are massively increasing the number of abortions by

00:38:29.180 permanently or freezing human beings for an extended period of time, ultimately to be destroyed 0.54

00:38:35.520 by separating the conjugal from the procreative act from, you know, the list goes on and on and

00:38:41.080 on. We could be here all day. Well, let's add another one to the list. Oh, well, before we get

00:38:44.860 to that, you have scientists swapping the test tubes. So they put the black baby in the Asian 1.00

00:38:49.300 couple and you put the white baby and the black couple and you whatever you mix it up so that 0.92

00:38:53.940 these babies are growing inside mothers who are not their own which creates medical problems which

00:38:58.000 creates major trauma for the babies and for the parents and sometimes you mix up the test tubes

00:39:02.760 or you mix up the sperm and the eggs you actually create whole human beings whose parents have never

00:39:07.600 even met each other and who knows who's going to raise them and it's just it's just awful it's just

00:39:13.320 awful okay i'm going to get more virtual tomatoes for that but it's true here's another problem

00:39:18.480 There's a new study out of Denmark.

00:39:20.300 Got to give a hat tip to Josh Wood on this.

00:39:23.180 Linking frozen embryo IVF to higher childhood cancer rates.

00:39:27.600 So this is a 20-year study of a million children.

00:39:30.200 This is not some small, unrepresentative sample size.

00:39:34.300 20-year study of a million children found that kids conceived through in vitro fertilization,

00:39:39.300 frozen embryo transfer, had double the cancer rate.

00:39:43.200 So not 5%, not 10%, double the 100% higher cancer rate.

00:39:48.340 84% of US IVF transfers use frozen embryos.

00:39:52.860 So it's not like the frozen embryo transfer is some minor part of the IVF surrogacy industry.

00:39:57.840 It's the vast majority of it.

00:39:59.200 It's almost all of it.

00:40:00.460 The Danish researchers followed every child born in Denmark from 1996 to 2012 for up to 20 years.

00:40:06.360 Study was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association last week.

00:40:10.060 uh children conceived without assisted reproduction developed cancer at 18.3 per

00:40:17.680 hundred thousand kids per year uh for after frozen embryo transfer that rate was 41.1

00:40:23.480 really really bad numbers by the way this isn't the only study there have been other studies

00:40:28.420 there's 2019 uh JAMA study of the same danish children at 11 years they found that too there

00:40:33.740 was a 2022 study out of Taiwan found that kids conceived through assisted reproduction

00:40:40.360 had a 58% higher cancer risk, and that doesn't necessarily exclude it to the frozen embryo

00:40:46.900 transfers. So basically found the exact same information. This is mainly cancers pertaining

00:40:52.560 to leukemia and hepatic tumor. Anyway, bad, bad news. What do we do about that?

00:41:03.740 What do we do about that? Not very much. Either you can continue along the IVF path of saying,

00:41:16.540 look, some couples are infertile, and they suffer infertility, and so we need to give them an

00:41:21.680 opportunity to have kids because infertility is so painful. I know it's really painful.

00:41:25.040 I've experienced it for two years myself. I know it's really painful. But good ends do not justify

00:41:31.780 immoral means ever. We live in a society that accepts consequentialist utilitarian ethics,

00:41:37.640 but we should not because that is like a deal with the devil. That is what the deal with the

00:41:43.220 devil is. And the downstream consequences of that you can never totally account for,

00:41:51.080 and they really, really run away with you, and it can justify any manner of evil. 0.85

00:41:55.160 so you can either say well um we're going to allow ivf but not for homosexual couples that's

00:42:03.160 one thing we say because uh children have a right to a mother and a father okay well one you're

00:42:07.640 never going to get that through anti-discrimination law in this day and age but two it's not just the 0.54

00:42:12.580 homosexuals it's easy to point to the the guys who are light in the loafers and blame them for 0.67

00:42:16.520 the problems of ivf you say it's oh it's so horrible to create a child intentionally to 0.98

00:42:20.280 to deprive the child of his mother. But that's not it. It's, it's actually just,

00:42:24.900 it's just the whole thing. It's just the whole thing, unfortunately. Okay.

00:42:31.160 Now I want to turn back to the Trump administration. Very, very important question.

00:42:37.860 Will, at whatever happens in the midterms, will President Trump run for a third term?

00:42:44.560 Now, two years from now, I don't know who's going to be your next president. And I think the law

00:42:49.940 said. I'm not 100% sure, but I think the law says that I'm not allowed to run again.

00:42:58.480 I've studied that phrase. Ashley, I've studied that phrase. I just got a poll number. I'd kill

00:43:04.800 everybody. I'd be there. I studied that phrase forever. Unfortunately, it's quite concise. 1.00

00:43:11.520 There's not a lot of wiggle room. It says something to the effect that under no circumstances

00:43:17.200 and for any reason will you even consider thinking about running for president if you had well the

00:43:27.900 one thing is different they cheated us on the second one because we won it three times so i

00:43:33.540 think i have the right to run again what i think i have the right to run again because they cheated

00:43:40.840 they cheated they rigged the election they rigged that we we did so good no we won three times but

00:43:53.440 that's all right you know i i love this and of course the libs react and they say he's a tyrant

00:43:58.220 he wants to run again and which is and he's saying this to get that rise out of them i have it on

00:44:03.700 good authority that president trump is not going to run for a third term even as some of us myself

00:44:08.900 included, have encouraged it. The thing I love about this, these little jokes on the campaign

00:44:14.080 trail, is that one, they rile up the crowd a little bit. But two, I love these kinds of little

00:44:21.240 jokes. I love when Trump pushes the envelope on the American form of government because it is what

00:44:28.700 we call a learning opportunity. I love when he pushes the envelope on it because it allows us to

00:44:34.420 better understand how our government is actually supposed to work. Because the way that most people

00:44:41.100 think of our government is really the product of late 20th century liberal indoctrination,

00:44:47.780 including among people on the right, including among people on the right. And so what I love

00:44:51.900 about when Trump jokes about that, maybe I'll run for a third term, is those jokes and the

00:44:55.940 subsequent conversations help to clear the detritus of late 20th century liberalism, which has formed

00:45:02.460 the vision of government, even among people on the right. Do you know who else thought we should end

00:45:07.100 the two-term limit for president and repeal the 22nd Amendment? Ronald Reagan. The people who

00:45:13.620 are going to freak out about this on the right are going to be all of the very principled Reagan

00:45:17.120 conservatives who want to go back to the 1980s. And I love Ronald Reagan. I'm a big fan of Ronald

00:45:21.620 Reagan. But the Ronald Reagan who actually existed and the Ronald Reagan of those people's

00:45:28.260 imagination are totally different people. You're upset that a president's talking about repealing

00:45:33.520 the 22nd Amendment. It was Reagan in 1987. He was still president, by the way. He was still

00:45:39.700 president when he was talking about how we need to repeal the 22nd Amendment and allow presidents

00:45:43.440 to run for a third term. He did the exact same thing Trump is doing. And why? Because there's

00:45:50.180 nothing wrong with having a president serve three terms. George Washington established the tradition

00:45:54.820 of two terms. And there might be some good things about that. There might be some bad things about

00:45:58.720 that. There's a reason this is the 22nd Amendment. We did not ban third terms for presidents as a

00:46:06.120 matter of law until the 20th century, until the middle of the 20th century, until after FDR,

00:46:11.500 because FDR abused it and became the American monarch. Why couldn't we get rid of the two-term

00:46:16.640 limit? Because it's anti-democratic? The framers of the Constitution mention democracy a little

00:46:24.200 over half a dozen times in the Federalist Papers, always in the negative. The framers of the

00:46:30.120 American Constitution were deeply skeptical of democracy. So then you'll sometimes hear,

00:46:34.840 even people on the right, they'll say, yeah, we don't have a democracy. The left says we have a

00:46:39.040 democracy, but we on the right, we know we don't have a democracy. We have a republic. And you ask

00:46:43.480 them, okay, what's a republic? They say, well, a republic is a representative democracy. It's not a

00:46:47.740 direct democracy, it's a representative democracy. But the people on the right are wrong about that

00:46:51.900 too. We don't actually live in a representative democracy. That's not the full story of our

00:46:56.000 government. Our government is a republic in the Roman sense of the term. In other words,

00:47:01.660 a mixed regime. When we say here in America, we don't have kings. We don't have aristocrats. 0.61

00:47:07.840 We're a government by, for, and about the people. Okay, that's great. Yeah, we definitely care about

00:47:13.420 the people a lot. We have a monarchical element in our government because our government is

00:47:17.360 modeled after Rome, among other polities. And the monarchical element is the presidency.

00:47:21.900 when people say this president, he's getting monarchical. He should be. That's the point

00:47:26.760 of the president is to be the monarchical element of the government. The Senate is supposed to be

00:47:31.700 the aristocratic element of the government. It's difficult because America doesn't really have an

00:47:34.680 aristocracy, but this is why the senators were initially selected by the states to add some

00:47:40.780 remove from the people in that branch of the government. Then we got rid of that with the

00:47:45.120 17th amendment before we got the 22nd amendment. Then we have the house, which is the

00:47:51.720 democratic element. That's a mixed regime. That's what we are. We have so many misconceptions about 0.97

00:47:58.520 our government. We sometimes hear people, even on the right, they'll say, you know, our government,

00:48:02.020 it's our founding fathers and our framers. They did something that had never been done before.

00:48:07.100 They gave us a completely new form of government that totally changed the world.

00:48:11.620 That would be news to the founding fathers. They certainly didn't think that was true.

00:48:16.040 You know how I know that? Because if I read the Federalist Papers, the founding fathers spend

00:48:19.680 basically the whole thing, the framers rather, spend basically the whole thing talking about

00:48:23.280 all of the other governments that they were modeling this one after. And so there were

00:48:27.780 slight, there were some differences in the American form of government informed by people

00:48:31.380 like Montesquieu, like the independent judiciary, for instance. But our government was very

00:48:36.000 self-consciously modeled after other governments, Rome, Carthage, Sparta. So much of what we believe

00:48:43.800 about our country is not true. And so anyway, bringing it all the way back to the top of

00:48:46.700 president trump joking about running for a third term what i love about these jokes where the left

00:48:51.220 and the squishy people on the right they said this is authoritarian this is creeping tyranny and this

00:48:55.620 is what i love about it is what he's telling you is a lot of the stuff you think about your 0.67

00:49:00.480 government is a joke it's nonsense and it when you actually investigate the points that he's making

00:49:05.740 you realize they're deeply grounded in history not just saint ronald reagan but all the way back

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The Michael Knowles Show - October 29, 2026

Ep. 2092 - Conservative Journalists CHARGED For Exposing Minnesota Voter Fraud

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