The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 220 - Much Ado About Nothing

00:00:00.000 The 36-year-old groping allegations against Brett Kavanaugh fall apart, the economy soars to new

00:00:05.880 heights, and Democrat Senator Mazie Hirono needs a fainting couch. Then, the one and only Ken Starr 1.00

00:00:12.000 joins the program to discuss the special counsel, his old employee, Brett Kavanaugh, and just how

00:00:16.980 wicked the Clintons really are, even worse than you think. Finally, the mailbag. I'm Michael

00:00:21.060 Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show. All right, we've got to have the Daily Kavanaugh

00:00:32.200 allegation update. I guess that's all we do now. That's all any show can do, is talk about not

00:00:39.380 credible allegations from 40 years ago about what a teenage Brett Kavanaugh did. So, this has all

00:00:45.940 fallen apart. As I predicted, by the way, I would like a little credit here. Let the record show.

00:00:50.420 I never took these allegations seriously, and they're even less serious today than they were

00:00:55.420 yesterday or the day before. So, we've had a couple people come out and say,

00:00:59.460 I went to high school with them, and I know that these are real. And then, the second anyone asks

00:01:04.640 them a question, they say, oh, never mind. I take it back. I take it back. So, that's not going to

00:01:07.820 work. The woman, Christine Blase Ford, said that she was going to testify before Congress, and then

00:01:14.800 she didn't do that. And then, now they say they want an FBI investigation. Why? I don't know. I

00:01:20.140 couldn't tell you what the FBI is going to do. The FBI is just going to go to the Oracle at Delphi,

00:01:25.540 and they're going to say, oh, Oracle, tell us what happened at a party that may or may not have

00:01:29.540 even occurred 36 years ago. They're going to rub the crystal ball and say, oh, thank goodness the

00:01:33.620 federal government possesses this crystal ball to let us know what happened. So, that's obviously

00:01:37.780 frivolous and absurd. The Democrats first said that we need to hear this woman. We need to hear this 0.97

00:01:43.940 women. The Republicans don't want us to hear this woman, and we are going to hear her or else. And 0.96

00:01:49.840 then, the woman said, I'm not going to testify. She said, how dare those Republicans try to bring 0.98

00:01:54.840 this woman to a hearing? How dare they? How insensitive? She should never speak before a 0.97

00:01:59.320 hearing. So, it's all, all frivolous. But, I would like to give out for the first time ever on this

00:02:05.800 show. You know, we're almost near awards season now. We had the Emmys over the weekend. In a month or

00:02:10.100 two, we'll get into the film awards. I want to give out the Not a Very Serious Person Award,

00:02:14.740 the first annual Not a Very Serious Person Award, for her performance in the fake Brett Kavanaugh

00:02:21.380 allegations. That would go to Hawaii Democrat Senator Mazie Hirono. Mazie, come accept your award.

00:02:30.140 Guess who's perpetuating all of these kinds of actions? It's the men in this country. And I just

00:02:34.660 want to say to the men in this country, just shut up and step up. Do the right thing.

00:02:39.540 For a change. Okay, you can see I'm a little upset by this, you know.

00:02:44.960 Mazie Hirono, setting women back hundreds of years. Would you like a fainting couch, ma'am? 0.94

00:02:50.440 Would you? But the men, I hate the men and it's all the men's fault. It's okay. It's okay. 0.99

00:02:55.760 They're there. They're there. It's okay. Step up and do a change for once, she says, by the way.

00:03:00.560 So, first of all, now, all men are assailants or rapists or whatever, according to this

00:03:04.520 frivolous woman. But then, then she says men should step up and, and do, do something good 1.00

00:03:10.900 for once. For once, as though men have never done anything before. I, I should like to point out,

00:03:16.000 not, not to, I, I don't really believe in this sort of sexual conflict that Mazie Hirono is, 1.00

00:03:21.280 is bringing up. But just to answer her point, we know that men have stepped up and done great

00:03:28.640 things before. We, we know this even in recent history. The evidence for that is that if American 0.89

00:03:32.800 men had not stepped up and acted courageously and done the right thing, then Mazie Hirono and

00:03:38.400 all of the other American women would be speaking German right now, if they were even allowed to 1.00

00:03:42.360 speak. You know, every, every great war, you know, all of the defense of our country, running the

00:03:47.200 government, starting, there were a lot of, I think men have done okay. I think they've done okay over 0.68

00:03:51.300 time. But Mazie Hirono, oh, men, men, wah, wah, wah, wah. All of the arguments, by the way, that have ever

00:03:56.980 been made, all of the sexist, chauvinistic arguments are that, you know, women are more prone to be

00:04:02.740 emotional and paint with a broad brush. And, uh, you know, that, that's why they can't be in public

00:04:08.000 life. And then Mazie Hirono just goes out, I hate all the men, wah, wah, wah. And then, but then that

00:04:13.860 actually isn't even the least serious thing she's, she's done all day. She goes on and someone asks her,

00:04:18.560 okay, you're saying that these allegations of Brett Kavanaugh against Brett Kavanaugh are, are fair,

00:04:25.380 they're real, we should believe them. What could Brett Kavanaugh do to prove them wrong and to

00:04:31.380 exculpate himself? Here's what she says. You have a second question about men stepping up.

00:04:36.660 What, if anything, could Judge Kavanaugh say in this hearing that would convince you

00:04:41.120 that he didn't do what he's accused of? He is saying that he didn't do it. What else can he say?

00:04:47.280 So I set that aside and I look at what Dr. Ford is saying and we've all said she makes a very

00:04:55.720 credible claim. So nothing. He can do nothing. What could Kavanaugh do to exculpate himself?

00:05:04.140 Well, he, nothing, nothing. He can't say anything. I don't believe anything he said,

00:05:08.400 even though he has an unimpeachable career in the public eye. He's been a judge for 12 years. But

00:05:13.040 yeah, okay, I don't believe anything he said. But then a woman who refuses to testify, to speak to 0.99

00:05:17.700 anybody on the record, no witnesses, the only witnesses that she can even muster up, say it never

00:05:22.200 happened, calls it absolutely nuts. That's the woman that we have to believe. That is not a

00:05:27.780 serious person, Maisie Hirono. But it's also not a credible allegation. You heard that word. Did

00:05:31.780 you hear that? She said that at the incredible. These are credible allegations. She's a credible

00:05:36.340 accuser. And this is a point on language that I think we all need to pay attention to. You know,

00:05:43.300 they say brevity is the soul of wit. So I try to always use an economy of words when I write things.

00:05:47.820 And I bring this up a lot. I did a Prager video on the importance of language.

00:05:51.620 Democrats pervert the culture and pervert our politics by twisting language and we let them

00:05:56.440 get away with it. They just say slogans that are not true, that distort reality, that pervert reality,

00:06:01.880 and we let them get away with it. Sometimes we start using that language too. And that over time

00:06:07.900 perverts the culture. So I'd like it pointed out. I wrote a column on this a few days ago. I talked

00:06:13.820 about it on the show. I never thought the allegations were credible, even if the woman's not lying or even

00:06:19.180 if she's misremembering or what. I'm just saying the allegation itself is not credible. Why? Because

00:06:25.500 there's no evidence for it. It was made well after the fact in the heat of a political moment. No

00:06:30.000 witnesses. The story has changed. Nothing about it is credible. The Democrats have insisted from the

00:06:35.100 beginning. It's a credible allegation. It's credible. It's credible. When we see this now, they've got their

00:06:39.960 talking points. Dan Pfeiffer, who's on one of those lefty podcasts. He's an old Obama bro.

00:06:44.660 He tweets out, quote, credibly accused sexual assailant Donald Trump. Put incredibly accused

00:06:49.380 sexual assailant Brett Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court. Tells you everything you need to know about

00:06:53.360 the Republican Party. Now, what does credible mean here? What is credibly accused? Donald Trump

00:06:59.860 paid off a porn star, apparently. He paid off some other model or something. I don't think Stormy 0.98

00:07:05.360 Daniels has accused him of assault. I don't think any of the other public people have accused him of

00:07:09.280 assault. There are a lot of accusations that are surrounding a lot of these people. But where is

00:07:13.320 where is the credibility? What is and obviously the Brett Kavanaugh thing is absurd from Susan

00:07:18.460 Hennessey at CNN, quote, it is worth pondering that if this doesn't make a difference and good

00:07:24.300 money says it won't, two of the nine justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will have been credibly

00:07:28.420 accused of serious sexual misconduct. What a statement to the women of this country. Now,

00:07:33.360 she's referring to Clarence Thomas, who in 1991, same exact thing happened. He was about to go

00:07:38.140 through. And at the last minute, they sprung up some allegation of sexual harassment by a woman

00:07:42.760 named Anita Hill. Even though Anita Hill had worked with him for a long time, there had never been,

00:07:46.820 doors were open. They'd never heard any things about this. They couldn't get good witnesses on

00:07:50.020 it. They totally railroaded him and have really damaged his reputation needlessly. Brendan Nyhan,

00:07:56.900 who's a New York Times contributor, quote, imagine the reaction to future Supreme Court rulings on

00:08:01.500 women's rights if two of five justices in the majority and the president have been credibly accused 0.99

00:08:06.760 of sexual misconduct. Credibly accused, credibly accused, credibly. They got their talking points

00:08:11.140 today. But that tweet sums up what this is really about, because likely Kavanaugh is going to get

00:08:15.900 through. I don't see how he's not going to get through. And a lot of insiders are saying within

00:08:21.020 a week, truly, there's going to be nothing left to this allegation. But what they want to be able

00:08:25.780 to do is, once Kavanaugh is through, be able to run for the rest of his life and say, oh, Kavanaugh,

00:08:31.340 he was accused of sexual assault. He's a rapist. He's a rapist. I mean, there's no evidence for any of 1.00

00:08:38.260 that at all. Not even in the accusation, but that's what they're going to run on, especially

00:08:41.280 when it gets down to abortion questions. And Corey Robin, a lefty writer, wrote, quote,

00:08:47.380 if Kavanaugh is confirmed, that means every 5-4 opinion authored by the court's conservative

00:08:51.060 majority will include two men credibly accused of sexual harassment. If that doesn't call into

00:08:55.640 question the legitimacy of the institution and the rule of law, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:09:00.660 He's underlining all of this. He's saying, ha ha, we're about to undermine the legitimacy of our

00:09:05.360 institutions, which they've been doing since 2016. And then Paul Krugman. Paul Krugman. Former Enron

00:09:11.260 advisor Paul Krugman, writing in the New York Times, quote, once upon a time, catching a Supreme

00:09:15.480 Court nominee in a pretty obvious lie at the same time he's being credibly accused of other deceptions

00:09:20.480 would probably have been disqualifying. But this is the modern GOP. Paul Krugman, a member of the party

00:09:26.880 of Bill Clinton, John F. Kennedy, FDR, Ted Kennedy, all the Kennedys, Anthony Weiner, Keith Ellison. Okay,

00:09:34.920 okay, buddy, sure. So we need to pay attention to this really closely because when you hear this

00:09:42.980 language, I think a lot of times people hear credibly accused, credibly accused, it's on all

00:09:46.680 the news shows, and they'll just say it. They'll just spout it. If you're a Democrat, if you're a

00:09:50.280 moderate, if you're a centrist, even some Republicans. Oh, it's credible, credible, credible. No,

00:09:54.940 no, no. That was just made up. They pulled that out of thin air. A Democrat communications firm,

00:10:00.400 which is likely advising the parties involved here. They said, okay, you got to use this

00:10:04.980 credibly involved. They do this with videos. Whenever we have evidence of Democrats being

00:10:10.300 degenerates on video, they say, oh, it was heavily edited video. Video is edited by definition. All

00:10:18.580 video is edited. You started in a certain place, you ended at another place, you upload it, you put it

00:10:22.620 somewhere. All video is edited. They say heavily edited as if to mean untrue. And they're saying

00:10:26.340 credible accusations as if to say these are true allegations. And there's no evidence for that at

00:10:30.920 all. You've got to pay careful attention because while we're talking about this, while we're debating

00:10:35.080 this, this is the worst part of the whole situation is they have us playing on their territory. So I think

00:10:42.540 we've got to just put an end to it, make this vote happen, get past Kavanaugh, get past this nomination

00:10:48.060 because the actual headline today is that unemployment, joblessness, has hit a record low. It is at the

00:10:56.180 lowest level that it's been since 1969. That's under the economy of President Donald Trump. What else

00:11:02.900 has happened? Our stock market has hit a record high. The Dow jumped 250 points today. Why is that?

00:11:08.440 Because investors are not worried about the trade war that the Democrats told us was imminent, that

00:11:12.880 was on us right now. And sober Republicans said it's not a real worry. The economy has never been

00:11:18.860 better. It has never been better. Things are going great in this country. And they've got us arguing

00:11:24.380 about a 36-year-old allegation where the woman can't say where it happened, why it happened,

00:11:29.980 who was there. She changes her story. It only comes out at the 11th hour. She wants to testify.

00:11:35.480 She won't testify. We're talking about that nonsense, that pure fiction that they have crafted.

00:11:43.060 When we could be talking about the real economy around us, the real political achievements of this

00:11:49.360 administration. And they're trying to play that for the midterms. We should stop it. Stop all this

00:11:54.420 nonsense. Give us a vote. Put them on the Supreme Court and move on because things are going very

00:11:59.540 well. I'm very, very lucky to have one of the great figures, probably the most famous lawyer who

00:12:06.780 isn't on the Supreme Court in the country, a figure from all of our childhood, Ken Starr, who has,

00:12:12.460 he employed Brett Kavanaugh and a lot of the players actually who are in the news cycles today.

00:12:17.340 He's been a judge. He's been all over the place in politics. And he's got a new book out,

00:12:21.880 Contempt, about the Clinton administration and the special prosecutor investigation,

00:12:27.340 the independent counsel investigation, the Monica Lewinsky affair, and on and on and on.

00:12:31.500 Ken Starr joins us to discuss his new book and everything else going on in the news,

00:12:36.300 all of which seems to involve him.

00:12:39.620 Judge Starr, thank you so much for being here.

00:12:42.500 My great pleasure. Thank you for having me on.

00:12:44.680 So, Judge Starr, you have a unique vantage point, I think, in D.C. as you have held just about every

00:12:52.260 important role and every role that we're seeing in the news cycle right now. D.C. Circuit Court of

00:12:56.900 Appeals judge, solicitor general, independent counsel, where you employed Brett Kavanaugh,

00:13:02.880 professor, university president, chancellor, now the author of Contempt, which I very, very much

00:13:08.920 enjoyed. I urge everybody who is a political junkie to read it, and not just that, anybody who is

00:13:14.600 confused by this news cycle to read it, because it explains a lot of things that even I couldn't

00:13:21.420 quite put together. And also for millennials, I know a lot of millennials watch the show.

00:13:26.940 Judge Starr, you are a central figure in our childhoods. You were plastered all over television

00:13:32.140 for all of our childhoods. So, to begin, I want to begin with the job itself, and then we can use

00:13:40.220 that to go into the news cycle, Kavanaugh, and all of that. There is a difference between an

00:13:44.960 independent counsel, a special counsel, and a special prosecutor. You very famously served as

00:13:50.280 independent counsel during the Clinton administration, and you write in the book that when you were offered

00:13:54.620 the job, you didn't think the job should exist. You disagreed with the law that created the job.

00:14:00.080 So, tell us about that, about the job, and how it fits into our constitutional framework.

00:14:05.280 Yeah, and the constitutional point is very important, but it's also very important at a

00:14:09.160 practical, operational level. So, it has both theoretical importance and practical importance.

00:14:15.860 Under the independent counsel law, I was appointed to serve as special prosecutor,

00:14:22.520 later named independent counsel, as the law that Congress passed, was amended.

00:14:28.140 By three judges to conduct an investigation of the president of the United States.

00:14:36.100 Bob Mueller, our current special counsel in the news, is appointed not by three judges,

00:14:43.300 but he's appointed consistent with the traditions of our country and our law by the attorney general

00:14:49.260 general of the United States, or in this instance, the acting attorney general, Rod Rosenstein.

00:14:55.740 And in that distinction of who appoints, and then who ultimately can fire,

00:15:04.700 and who can guide and supervise, lies all the practical and constitutional difference in the world.

00:15:11.400 I did not like the statute under which I was appointed, because I felt and continue to feel

00:15:19.540 that the appointing authority for executive branch functions, such as prosecutions of possible federal crimes,

00:15:29.460 should come from within the executive branch, ultimately responsible to the president.

00:15:35.440 The issue has always been, well, how much independence should this outsider brought in

00:15:43.260 to conduct an investigation of the president or those close around him or her have?

00:15:50.000 And what the independent counsel law did was to say, we want greater independence,

00:15:57.180 less of a connection to the Justice Department,

00:16:00.920 but we're not going to cut the Justice Department out of the process entirely.

00:16:04.760 So my final point, I was appointed by three judges, but at the request of the attorney general under the law,

00:16:14.940 Janet Reno, who is President Clinton's attorney general.

00:16:18.780 So under the statute, the Congress passed in 1978 as a post-Watergate scandal reform.

00:16:26.400 A special division of judges was set up.

00:16:28.900 They would do the appointing, but they rolled into operation only at the request of the attorney general.

00:16:36.800 So under the statute passed by Congress in the wake of the Watergate scandal, a law passed in 1978,

00:16:44.520 three judges had the appointing power, but they rolled into action only upon the request of the attorney general,

00:16:53.200 who had information that, oh, something needs to be looked into.

00:16:56.720 An independent counsel should be appointed, but I, the attorney general, can't do the appointing.

00:17:02.680 And so the three judges on the special panel asked me to serve.

00:17:09.460 So let the record show as we stand in the law.

00:17:12.100 I didn't volunteer for the job, but I was asked to serve, and I did serve.

00:17:18.700 That's how I feel about my job as well.

00:17:20.480 I said, I didn't volunteer for this, all this abuse here at the Daily Wire.

00:17:23.240 So on that point, because that really does clear things up, I think a lot of people see these terms,

00:17:29.520 and they don't see the distinction, the distinction between who appoints whom and where this falls.

00:17:35.260 I'm not asking you to be too much of a political pundit, but as you observe the Mueller investigation,

00:17:40.980 all of the accusations from both sides, from the president and from Democrats and from the left,

00:17:46.100 How do you think the investigation seems to be going?

00:17:49.120 Should it wrap up? Are there calls for it to wrap up?

00:17:51.820 Should it keep going on past the midterms?

00:17:54.740 How do you see it so far?

00:17:57.040 I think Bob Mueller is doing his job, and I have encouraged the president to leave him alone,

00:18:04.820 to stop using...

00:18:06.580 I know, exactly. Good luck.

00:18:09.880 Did you tweet it to him?

00:18:11.640 That might send the message, but no, I love my country.

00:18:19.660 I want my president to succeed.

00:18:21.740 Whether I agree or disagree with the president, I want the president to do a good job.

00:18:26.080 And one of the messages in the book is that if you see a campaign to demonize the prosecutor,

00:18:35.900 guess where that started?

00:18:37.100 It started in the Clinton years, and in fact, the Trump team has been reported as saying,

00:18:42.440 we're just taking a play from the Bill Clinton playbook.

00:18:46.220 Demonize the prosecutor and do everything you can to stand in the way, deny, delay, and so forth.

00:18:53.120 Now, that having been said, from what I have read, Bob Mueller, notwithstanding all the rhetoric

00:18:59.380 and all the tweets, has enjoyed the cooperation of the president and the president's team.

00:19:08.020 There's now a huge issue as to is the president going to be interviewed or not.

00:19:12.080 But the interview of the president, if it happens, would come only toward the end of the process.

00:19:18.160 So now to come back to your basic question, I think Bob Mueller is, if anything,

00:19:23.520 he's winding down in terms of the investigation of collusion.

00:19:28.800 Now, what we don't know is whether the attorney general, here the acting attorney general,

00:19:35.700 Rod Rosenstein, has expanded Bob Mueller's investigation.

00:19:40.480 We know, of course, that his investigation immediately took him to Paul Manafort, right?

00:19:47.800 And so there weren't just questions involving George Papadopoulos, General Flynn,

00:19:55.980 which had to do with the possibility of connections with the Trump campaign

00:20:00.940 with Russian operatives or Russian interests.

00:20:06.220 Getting the guilty plea recently, this last week, from Paul Manafort

00:20:13.820 is enormously helpful to Paul Manafort.

00:20:16.620 But to Mr. Mueller, yeah, to Mr. Mueller, to Bob Mueller, for obvious reasons,

00:20:23.860 not only to save time, energy, resources, and so forth, having to go into trial.

00:20:28.620 Trials are always uncertain.

00:20:30.080 You never know what's going to happen.

00:20:31.580 But here's the key point.

00:20:33.580 Bob Mueller now enjoys the full cooperation.

00:20:37.760 At least that's what's called for under the agreement of Paul Manafort.

00:20:41.140 So that helps get to the bottom of the whole issue of Russian collusion.

00:20:46.620 Let me say, I've seen no evidence of Russian collusion.

00:20:50.600 I know about the, we all know about the Trump Tower meeting in June of 2016.

00:20:55.700 But I think that's been pretty much fleshed out.

00:20:58.420 And no charges have been brought, at least thus far, against anyone on the basis of that meeting.

00:21:03.800 And I want to return to what you mentioned, the Bill Clinton of it all, the Clinton playbook of it all.

00:21:10.980 Because reading your book, I really love it.

00:21:13.300 It's a trip down memory lane for me to my childhood.

00:21:15.600 And I'm seeing all of these characters crop up again.

00:21:18.680 Rod Rosenstein crops up, a lot of other people who we see in politics, and of course, the Clintons.

00:21:24.540 And Hillary Clinton in particular, you don't paint a great picture of them, including in the title of the book, Contempt.

00:21:31.500 How much of this owes to the Clintons?

00:21:34.760 How much did the Clinton administration and their handling of your work in particular, but obviously other issues too,

00:21:40.640 how much did that poison our politics and lead to our currently toxic political environment?

00:21:46.480 I think it contributed to what President Clinton himself called the politics of personal destruction.

00:21:54.100 Politics is a tough sport, right?

00:21:56.580 James Stewart, the Pulitzer Prize winning author of a book entitled Blood Support,

00:22:02.540 about the whole whitewater affair before the trials began in Little Rock,

00:22:09.820 in our 14 convictions, guilty pleas, and so forth.

00:22:13.300 But what the Clintons did was to treat people with contempt.

00:22:18.400 For example, Monica Lewinsky treated with contempt, right? 0.97

00:22:22.580 It wasn't just a denial.

00:22:24.400 It was, she was a stalker. 0.99

00:22:26.480 She was narcissistic. 0.86

00:22:28.080 I mean, there were different allegations and accusations made against her.

00:22:32.960 Paula Corbin-Jones, who brought a sexual harassment lawsuit, that sounds pretty familiar, right? 0.99

00:22:38.280 A sexual harassment lawsuit against President Clinton for his actions that she alleged occurred in Arkansas during the time he was governor.

00:22:48.760 Well, what did Clinton's surrogates say? 1.00

00:22:51.300 The most demeaning thing, she's trailer park trash. 1.00

00:22:56.000 Can you imagine that? 0.99

00:22:58.100 And yet, the culture was coarsened.

00:23:00.680 We think the culture is, some of us have concerns about the directions of the culture.

00:23:06.940 But I will say this.

00:23:08.440 I was stunned that Bill Clinton personally, and the people around Bill Clinton,

00:23:14.580 could demonize women who had had either a consensual relationship with the president,

00:23:20.820 or, in the case of Juanita Broderick, a very colorable allegation that she had been raped,

00:23:30.420 and I mean raped, by William Jefferson Clinton when he was attorney general of the state of Arkansas.

00:23:36.660 And one of the things that I don't say in the book, even though I praise so many people in the press,

00:23:42.080 yet I praise so many people in the press as being truth seekers.

00:23:46.580 And one of those truth seekers...

00:23:47.420 I'm going to have to ask you about that afterward, but please go on.

00:23:49.900 Okay, what, yeah, what, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm going on.

00:23:55.040 Shut me up at any time.

00:23:56.500 No, no, please.

00:23:58.180 Well, thank you.

00:23:59.460 Included Lisa Myers of NBC News, who first uncovered the story of the alleged rape,

00:24:08.040 and NBC News would not allow that to air.

00:24:12.160 Now, think of it now, especially with social media.

00:24:14.900 Now, remember, this is the time when some pretty famous and powerful people, other than Bill Clinton,

00:24:21.200 were doing some very nasty things in the workplace, right?

00:24:24.600 And all these things are now coming out.

00:24:27.120 And I think it's a healthy thing.

00:24:30.820 Now, I'm going to say this, especially in light of the Brett Kavanaugh situation.

00:24:35.160 I believe in Brett Kavanaugh.

00:24:37.140 I totally respect him.

00:24:39.680 I've known him for so many years.

00:24:41.680 He was with me at my side during many years of the investigation.

00:24:45.020 We practice law together.

00:24:47.580 And I think the outpouring of support for him suggests that we are a long, long, well,

00:24:54.400 he's just absolutely denied that this alleged episode ever happened with this person or with

00:25:01.280 anyone, anyone, anywhere.

00:25:04.680 But you're so right.

00:25:05.960 It's one of the messages of the book.

00:25:07.780 I think we've grown up in certain respects as a culture.

00:25:10.680 Well, and that question of the media and of Kavanaugh, because I suppose you're right.

00:25:15.720 I suppose I can agree there are some members of the media who are truth seekers, though

00:25:19.880 it's hard to find them these days.

00:25:21.660 And I remember, even as a kid, the media destroyed you.

00:25:26.760 I mean, they targeted you.

00:25:28.500 You went from being criticized by Republicans as a squish, as being too moderate, to being this

00:25:34.540 right-wing, rock-ribbed, knuckle-drag within two days.

00:25:39.120 It's because the White House turned its attention on you and the media followed suit.

00:25:42.640 We're seeing this all the way up through Judge Kavanaugh.

00:25:46.020 Now Judge Kavanaugh has lived this apparently unimpeachable life that, you know, we should

00:25:51.840 all be so lucky that the worst our enemies could drag up on us is this story heard for

00:25:56.920 the first time 35 years later.

00:25:59.740 But what is the media's role in all of this?

00:26:02.140 Has that media role changed?

00:26:03.520 Did it change under the Clinton administration, or have they always been bulldogs for one

00:26:10.560 political view over the other, for the Democrats, over the Republicans?

00:26:14.260 Yeah, I have a more benign view of the press.

00:26:16.880 There are always going to be bad apples.

00:26:18.380 There are going to be partisans who have journalistic, what am I trying to say, credentials.

00:26:25.580 Right?

00:26:26.180 So they have credentials.

00:26:27.140 Hey, I'm a journalist.

00:26:27.920 I'm with Newspaper X or Media Platform Y.

00:26:33.260 But I'm very Jeffersonian about this.

00:26:36.520 You know, Jefferson hated the Federalist-dominated press and was eager for more anti-Federalist

00:26:42.520 newspapers to get started and so forth.

00:26:45.180 And yet he wisely knew we've got to have the free press.

00:26:49.520 We've got to have an aggressive free press.

00:26:52.320 So all I say is, be careful of who you're listening to, assess it, but always ask the

00:27:01.560 question, am I hearing the truth, am I hearing facts, or am I hearing sin?

00:27:07.600 And every White House has its propaganda operation.

00:27:11.880 I understand that.

00:27:12.900 But what Bill Clinton did with his operatives, the James Carvels at the time, the George Stephanopoulos

00:27:19.900 and so forth, those folks were masters at the art, the evil and dark art of fitting a

00:27:29.260 narrative.

00:27:30.340 But in the process, I don't think Stephanopoulos ever did this, but Carvel definitely did.

00:27:34.620 He made a sport of attacking people.

00:27:38.360 And so did Hillary Clinton.

00:27:39.860 Bill Clinton was much more elegant about it.

00:27:42.900 Obviously, he's a naturally charming and charismatic guy.

00:27:46.360 I pay tribute to his many political gifts in the press.

00:27:50.680 But Hillary is cut from a different cloth.

00:27:53.280 She turned her back on her upbringing in the suburbs of Chicago.

00:27:58.280 When she went to Wellesley, she became radicalized.

00:28:01.520 You say, oh, that's a terrible thing to say.

00:28:03.500 No, as I described in the book, she became a follower and student of Saul Alinsky, the author

00:28:12.180 of Rules for Radicals.

00:28:14.220 And what is one of the rules for radicals?

00:28:16.800 Now, not rules for Christians, rules for thoughtful secularists, rules for kind atheists, rules for

00:28:25.400 radicals.

00:28:26.480 And what's one of the key rules of radicals? 0.93

00:28:29.060 Attack and destroy. 0.52

00:28:30.500 Attack and destroy and lie, lie, lie. 0.78

00:28:34.380 In the book, you talk about how she was so brazen in saying, I don't remember, I don't

00:28:39.460 recall, I don't remember, that you considered charging her with perjury, if I'm getting that

00:28:45.220 right.

00:28:45.880 You got that exactly right.

00:28:47.160 And thank you for noting that.

00:28:48.540 Because, you know, part of the meta narrative is, oh, Starr found nothing in Arkansas and then

00:28:54.820 went after the president because of a private consensual relationship.

00:28:58.640 So we all know that narrative, even if you were a child, you now know.

00:29:02.760 I mean, that's just part of our modern history, right?

00:29:05.360 Totally wrong.

00:29:06.440 And so one of the reasons I wrote the book, my memoir, is to set the record straight, to

00:29:11.540 complete the records.

00:29:12.540 And here is a fact, not fiction and not spin.

00:29:15.400 14 criminal convictions in Arkansas.

00:29:18.080 And then most relevantly, in light of your comment, we seriously considered going before

00:29:23.800 the grand jury in Little Rock, Arkansas in the spring of 1998 and say, indicted Hillary

00:29:28.680 Rodham Clinton.

00:29:29.700 But we made the professional judgment that we did not have the evidence, sufficient evidence

00:29:35.340 to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she committed these offenses.

00:29:39.460 So she was a very lucky person.

00:29:43.360 She should be down on her knees, I hate to use that image, at night, saying, thank you,

00:29:49.180 dear Lord, that for what I did, that I was not prosecuted by the independent counsel.

00:29:55.840 Absolutely.

00:29:56.580 And that image of Hillary Clinton on her knees praying, I don't know, does the saying go,

00:30:00.440 the angels take care of their own?

00:30:02.020 Or I don't know.

00:30:02.760 Maybe it's a different saying than that.

00:30:04.380 I don't know.

00:30:05.000 I don't know who she's praying to exactly.

00:30:06.480 I think the angels take care of drunks and lawyers.

00:30:10.360 Yeah, that's right.

00:30:12.340 And throughout the book, I love that you continually return to what is the truth.

00:30:18.200 We're after the truth.

00:30:19.360 Everyone you're speaking to, Monica Lewinsky, whoever it is, we're after the truth.

00:30:23.180 And it's something that maybe there isn't enough of these days.

00:30:26.040 So I really encourage people to read the book because I think a lot of us saw it on TV

00:30:30.800 and we were told a certain narrative of what happened.

00:30:33.360 And those issues are still affecting us today.

00:30:36.160 And it's important to get that record right.

00:30:38.180 Judge Starr, I've taken up far too much of your time.

00:30:40.340 So I will let you go.

00:30:41.440 Thank you so much for being here, though.

00:30:42.600 I really appreciate it.

00:30:44.000 Oh, well, it's a great pleasure.

00:30:45.320 And thank you for promoting the book.

00:30:48.260 In many respects, it's a cry from the heart about our country

00:30:52.480 and how good our country is and that our system of law does, in fact, work.

00:30:58.880 It can be quite ugly at times, but the ugliness is not our system of law.

00:31:03.640 The ugliness is the human condition, the human being in our system.

00:31:09.660 But our system is very structurally sound.

00:31:12.500 May we keep our system of a constitutional republic.

00:31:16.540 Dr. Franklin asked us to do that on Constitution Day, September 17, 1787.

00:31:22.220 May we continue to guard and love our constitutional republic.

00:31:26.240 Amen.

00:31:26.520 Ken Starr, one of the most insightful people in our public life.

00:31:31.260 So we've got a lot more to get to.

00:31:32.360 We have a whole mailbag today, and I'm going to get through all of them.

00:31:36.160 Probably I won't, but I'm going to try to get through all of them.

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00:31:59.480 Most importantly, the Leftist Tears Tumblr.

00:32:01.300 You get the Maisie Hirono Tumblr.

00:32:03.800 But the man, it's the man.

00:32:06.120 Mm-hmm.

00:32:08.200 Very, very good.

00:32:12.060 Thank you, Senator Hirono.

00:32:13.560 Go to dailywire.com.

00:32:14.860 We'll be right back with the mailbag.

00:32:15.980 Let's jump right in.

00:32:27.040 From Arun.

00:32:28.360 Dear Dr. Covfefe, I often hear my leftist acquaintances of Caucasian descent say, check

00:32:34.480 your privilege to each other.

00:32:36.180 What does this mean? 0.96

00:32:37.240 I honestly have never been quite sure what to make of this ridiculous phrase.

00:32:41.480 Could you please explain it and deconstruct it for me?

00:32:44.360 Yes. 0.98

00:32:44.880 It means shut up. 1.00

00:32:47.160 Check your privilege means shut up. 0.96

00:32:48.700 That's the only way that it is ever used.

00:32:50.680 That's all that it implies.

00:32:51.920 That's the only action that is requested by that phrase. 0.95

00:32:55.160 Check your privilege means shut up.

00:32:56.600 It means you have an opinion that I can't refute or argue against. 0.95

00:33:02.760 So I'm going to, on the basis of your race or your sex, or if you're a man who thinks he's 0.99

00:33:08.640 a man or a woman who thinks she's a woman, tell you to shut up. 1.00

00:33:11.620 So shut up. 1.00

00:33:12.200 That's what it means. 0.99

00:33:13.160 The reason that it's prevalent among left-wing circles is because everybody's got to serve

00:33:17.380 somebody.

00:33:17.780 And leftist politics is a jealous, angry God, which will have no God before it.

00:33:23.300 So it replaces religion. 0.63

00:33:26.260 You know, we've talked about this with environmentalism.

00:33:30.280 Environmentalism, global warming, has all of the trappings of religion.

00:33:33.440 It has original sin in the form of pollution.

00:33:36.660 It has indulgences in the form of carbon tax credits.

00:33:40.980 There are works that you can do.

00:33:42.760 There are things that you can do to bring yourself closer to the God, Mother Nature,

00:33:47.440 Gaia, whatever you want to call it, Earth Day, whatever.

00:33:50.940 This is also true in the check your privilege, in the intersectionality, politics of identity,

00:33:56.120 race, sex, whatever, which is that when they walk around and say check your privilege, it's

00:34:01.080 a sort of inversion of mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

00:34:04.920 You know, when you begin a mass, you call to mind your sins.

00:34:07.940 And you say, I've sinned.

00:34:08.700 I confess my sins to you, my brothers and sisters.

00:34:12.340 Please pray for me to the Lord our God.

00:34:13.960 But in this case, you're flipping it.

00:34:15.940 You're saying, you're a sinner. 1.00

00:34:16.980 You're bad. 1.00

00:34:18.020 You've committed the sin of being white. 1.00

00:34:19.700 You've committed the sin of being a man. 1.00

00:34:21.140 You've committed the sin of being a man who thinks he's a man. 0.82

00:34:23.240 You've committed the sin of being a man who's attracted to women.

00:34:25.940 And so it's an inversion.

00:34:27.220 It's angry.

00:34:28.500 You know, it's not very charitable.

00:34:30.560 It's not very graceful.

00:34:31.640 It's not very loving.

00:34:32.580 But it is a feature of the religion of leftism.

00:34:36.760 And you should ignore it. 1.00

00:34:37.520 It's stupid. 1.00

00:34:37.980 It's ridiculous. 1.00

00:34:38.400 I'm kind of lucky because I'm just swarthy enough. 0.84

00:34:42.880 You know, I don't know where I fall on the privilege scale.

00:34:45.920 But you would even see this sometimes.

00:34:48.260 I think people in colleges, for instance, who come from financial aid.

00:34:53.900 You know, my family did not have a lot of money.

00:34:56.380 And I was on financial aid.

00:34:59.260 And I would notice this in college.

00:35:01.280 Anyone who's a Republican is pilloried as being rich or coming from a lot of money or whatever.

00:35:05.020 And the impulse is to say, no, I didn't.

00:35:07.400 I didn't come from a lot of money.

00:35:08.560 I came from humble backgrounds.

00:35:09.800 I've had tough things in my life.

00:35:11.560 I think it's a huge mistake.

00:35:12.900 I don't think you should do that.

00:35:13.840 You should never engage with those hateful arguments.

00:35:17.960 If you get into a fight with a skunk, it doesn't matter if you win. 1.00

00:35:20.680 You're going to end up smelling very, very bad.

00:35:23.040 Don't give those premises away.

00:35:24.500 Don't acknowledge the privilege thing.

00:35:26.800 Just laugh at it.

00:35:27.620 Laugh at it and move on.

00:35:28.840 From Zachary.

00:35:29.860 Dear Michael Corleone Al Pacino lookalike knolls.

00:35:35.020 Hoo-ah! 1.00

00:35:36.860 Big man!

00:35:38.760 Excuse me.

00:35:39.880 I recently had an argument to prove God to a friend of mine.

00:35:45.000 And a question came up that I really couldn't answer, so I'll pose it to you.

00:35:47.840 If God can see the future and knows how it goes, why create anything in the first place?

00:35:53.000 It's an interesting question.

00:35:54.880 This hasn't occurred to me.

00:35:56.400 And it is worth noting.

00:35:58.540 You can't prove God.

00:35:59.760 You can make arguments for God, but God is the basis of all meaningful speech.

00:36:03.820 So it sort of begs the question, even those arguments.

00:36:06.300 But there are good arguments for God, and there's a lot of evidence for God.

00:36:09.340 The question is, why would you create anything at all if you know how it's going to end?

00:36:15.620 How else could you create anything?

00:36:18.040 What are you talking about?

00:36:18.980 Any artist who creates a work of art knows how it ends, by definition, because he creates the art.

00:36:23.740 So he creates the ending of it.

00:36:25.220 If you're outside of time and space, if you're outside of creation, then you know about creation.

00:36:31.000 You know everything about creation.

00:36:32.720 But what work of art would you create where you didn't know how it ended?

00:36:37.020 Could you write a novel and not know how it ends?

00:36:38.800 Could you make a movie and not know how it ends?

00:36:40.740 Could you paint a picture and not know how it ends, not know everything about it?

00:36:44.120 Of course not.

00:36:45.560 The relationship between God and man is similar to the relationship between Shakespeare and Hamlet.

00:36:52.080 Hamlet is the creation of Shakespeare.

00:36:53.980 He's outside of the book.

00:36:57.460 Shakespeare knows how Hamlet ends.

00:36:59.420 I won't spoil it for you if you haven't read it.

00:37:01.340 But of course, I don't see that objection at all.

00:37:04.320 In fact, that objection seems to me a good argument for God as we know God.

00:37:09.060 And there's an extra part of the story because then the creator enters into the creation,

00:37:13.540 enters into the story, and makes the greatest story ever told.

00:37:16.000 But you've got to read past the first chapters to get to that part.

00:37:19.360 From Spencer.

00:37:19.920 Oh, Knowles, who knows?

00:37:21.940 How do you think we can maintain a sense of purpose, whether as a society or as individuals,

00:37:26.020 if we reach a point by technological advances that will render work largely superfluous?

00:37:31.800 Spencer.

00:37:32.880 We won't because we're creative.

00:37:34.700 Human beings are creative.

00:37:36.080 And so there's never a point at which we won't want to work.

00:37:40.620 Adam in the garden, in perfection, was given a job.

00:37:44.140 And he worked.

00:37:44.980 It is in our nature to work.

00:37:46.200 When people don't work, they atrophy and fall away and die.

00:37:50.260 They spiritually and sometimes physically.

00:37:52.580 Now, does that mean that I'm going to, at some point, there won't be a robot that can clean my house?

00:37:57.380 Yeah, there's probably going to be a robot that can clean my house. 0.99

00:37:59.540 That's great because then I can work on other things like not writing books.

00:38:03.320 Maybe you asked the wrong guy this question.

00:38:07.020 But even if there is certain work that is automated, that will just create other work because we are creative people.

00:38:13.300 And this is, when people talk about artificial intelligence, they speak of the human mind as if the human mind is just a computer that only exists to solve problems presented to it.

00:38:23.320 That is such a misunderstanding of the human mind.

00:38:26.000 The human mind is creative.

00:38:27.660 We are made in the image of God, the creator.

00:38:29.700 And we are creative.

00:38:30.920 We essentially create.

00:38:34.060 There is no robot that is going to stop me from creating or stop my impulse from creating.

00:38:39.340 That's, in a very essential way, what makes us human.

00:38:44.520 From Patrick.

00:38:45.880 Two knows it all.

00:38:47.060 The other day I overheard someone who calls themselves a sexual free thinker asking why consensual incest is wrong.

00:38:54.280 It was made very clear that he doesn't put any stock toward religion's teaching on this and our moral viewpoints should be challenged on a regular basis by an honest and unbiased viewpoint.

00:39:03.020 He also mentioned that the argument for preventing the mental and physical dysfunctions brought on by such relations was a eugenic one and would effectively close off certain people from reproducing because it would likely result in the same thing.

00:39:15.320 This in mind, how would you argue against this line of thought?

00:39:18.740 Thanks and love the show, Patrick.

00:39:21.500 What is unbiased thinking?

00:39:23.200 Tell me what unbiased thinking is.

00:39:25.480 What moral vision does not take into account metaphysics?

00:39:29.740 Morals aren't a physical thing.

00:39:31.040 I can't, this isn't a moral.

00:39:32.700 Well, leftist tiers have a lot of moral value, but they're not morals themselves.

00:39:36.180 Morals aren't a physical thing.

00:39:37.360 They are metaphysical things.

00:39:38.740 So when we discuss morality, we discuss metaphysics, which is in the realm of philosophy and theology and religion.

00:39:45.280 So if he says, I want to discuss metaphysics without discussing metaphysics, then he's a dum-dum and should realize the error of his ways.

00:39:51.540 But to the question itself, why should consensual, why is consensual incest wrong?

00:39:56.140 This has cropped up in a lot of news stories.

00:39:57.820 Some teacher just got fired for asking this question to his students.

00:40:01.580 This has come up in a number of colleges and philosophy and psychology classes.

00:40:06.780 Why is it wrong?

00:40:08.840 Well, you can't, I suppose you can look at physical evidence, which is that the kids are more likely to have disabilities and dysfunctions in them.

00:40:17.780 But even ignoring that, why is it wrong in itself?

00:40:20.540 Let's say that they used perfect sexual protection, you know, pills and prophylactics and this and that and the other thing.

00:40:27.180 Just the union itself, why is that?

00:40:29.260 It's because it is an attack on the family.

00:40:31.700 It attacks familial love.

00:40:33.820 It is unnatural.

00:40:34.620 It is against natural law, which does exist.

00:40:38.180 And when we talk about natural rights, when we talk about human rights, the only way that human rights and natural rights make any sense is if we talk about a natural law to which we can associate them.

00:40:48.440 So it is wrong.

00:40:51.040 Now, what is the, if your friend says he doesn't want a moral argument for why it's immoral, then I can't help him very much.

00:40:58.880 But if he's asking for something that is beyond the realm of metaphysics, the only help I could give him is something that Leon Kass, who's a terrific bioethicist, a genius out of UChicago, he wrote an essay about this probably 20 years ago, about the wisdom of repugnance.

00:41:14.680 And I'm not saying that this should be the entirety of your argument for why incest is wrong, but this might be a good starting point if you don't want to rise to the higher levels of philosophy or theology or whatever, which is that there are certain things that we just feel to be wrong.

00:41:33.000 We feel it is wrong to watch a boy murder his grandmother, you know, or sleep with his sister, or we see assaults on the family as wrong.

00:41:43.140 Why is that?

00:41:44.060 It's something built into us, certainly.

00:41:46.700 And there are two ways of approaching this.

00:41:48.040 It seems your friend is approaching it and saying, well, if I can't rationally explain right now with his apparently limited rational faculties why it's wrong, then it can't be wrong.

00:41:58.400 And then there's another way of approaching it, which is, hmm, why do I feel this way?

00:42:01.660 Why does it seem to me and to every great thinker ever that this is wrong?

00:42:06.000 Perhaps they were on to something.

00:42:08.220 It's Chesterton's fence.

00:42:09.780 There are two reformers.

00:42:11.120 If you drive up in the middle of the wilderness and you see a white fence just right in the middle of nowhere, one type of reformer says, I see no reason for that fence to be there.

00:42:20.060 Pull it down.

00:42:20.760 But the wiser reformer says, before you pull that fence down, you need to explain to me why that fence is there.

00:42:27.040 When you explain to me why that fence is there, then you can tell me why we should pull it down.

00:42:32.460 And this is the case with an issue like this.

00:42:34.980 And as a broader point on politics, this is something that the left and right differ on because I think, and I'm firmly on the right, I think that I could explain most of the views, most of the opinions of the left, of my friends on the left.

00:42:52.920 I've got a lot of friends on, probably most of my friends would call themselves left wingers.

00:42:56.200 And I think that I understand and could explain most of their opinions.

00:43:00.240 And I think they could not explain most of my opinions.

00:43:04.860 That should tell you something.

00:43:06.100 You should be able to understand the other point of view before you refute it.

00:43:09.100 We still got some time.

00:43:10.260 From Arun.

00:43:11.120 I bet that's the same Arun.

00:43:12.680 I don't think there are a lot of Aruns watching the show.

00:43:14.540 Dear Dr. Covfefe, should we, yeah, it's definitely the same one, should we grant citizenship or permanent residency to immigrants who express consistently anti-American views in public, like taking a knee or calling America racist? 0.53

00:43:26.320 Both my parents are immigrants from India, and on the rare occasions when people in our community disparage America or the flag, it bothers us that they are denigrating the country that gave us everything we have.

00:43:35.020 Again, this sentiment is rare, but should people with these views be permitted to become citizens?

00:43:39.560 Or should they just be judged on their economic merits?

00:43:42.480 Thanks, and may your cup overflow with Covfefe.

00:43:44.540 Yeah, we should not allow those people to become citizens.

00:43:46.880 If you don't love the country, you should not be allowed to become a citizen.

00:43:49.960 If you're already a citizen, that's too bad.

00:43:52.360 I guess, you know, we'll have to deal with that.

00:43:54.120 But absolutely not.

00:43:55.420 There are a couple points of view on this.

00:43:57.300 The one is this total open borders, just, you know, make an idol out of free trade and what would be called globalism or imperialism, which says, yeah, if you can add to our GDP by 0.0002%, who cares if you're a Nazi?

00:44:12.200 Come on into the country. 0.88

00:44:12.960 Who cares if you hate our country?

00:44:13.960 Who cares if you want to undercut our country?

00:44:15.840 And there's another view that says, no, in order to join the country, you have to love the country.

00:44:20.520 You have to love what it's about.

00:44:21.860 You need to support it.

00:44:22.940 You need to know something about it.

00:44:24.140 You need to be brought into it.

00:44:25.360 That is the view.

00:44:26.500 People who don't love America should not be permitted to become Americans. 0.98

00:44:30.480 It's as simple as that.

00:44:31.700 And if they're here already and they're not citizens, boot them out. 0.96

00:44:34.480 Get them on the next boat.

00:44:35.680 Send them home.

00:44:36.160 From Andrew.

00:44:37.280 Hello to the Daily Wire representative from the Vatican.

00:44:41.000 My question concerns how to deal with selfishness in a relationship.

00:44:44.520 I've been single my whole life, so I don't have a horse in this race.

00:44:47.120 Sorry to hear that.

00:44:48.060 But my friends and their partners all seem to be focused on what they can get out of the relationship and not about the other person.

00:44:53.840 I was wondering what is the best way to quell these selfish tendencies.

00:44:57.600 Also, I could use some advice on how to get into the dating game as I've not yet participated in it for all 18 years of my life.

00:45:03.740 Thanks.

00:45:04.280 Love the superior Daily Wire podcast.

00:45:07.300 You have good taste, sir.

00:45:11.080 I find this is, to use conservative philosophy in public policy and economics, it's very easy.

00:45:20.220 It's much easier to channel one's bad tendencies into a good tendency than to just try to stomp them out altogether.

00:45:27.100 So my argument for why you shouldn't be selfish in a romantic relationship or a marriage is that it will hurt you.

00:45:36.960 That you're ultimately being self-sacrificial or ultimately being self-destructive if you do that.

00:45:44.600 Selfishness in a relationship will poison the relationship.

00:45:47.700 It will poison your life. 0.98

00:45:50.200 You will be miserable.

00:45:51.640 You will look back on your relationship and think, gosh, what a waste of opportunity. 1.00

00:45:57.120 What a selfish little ruffian I was. 0.82

00:46:01.280 What word am I looking for? 0.98

00:46:02.260 A little bug that I was.

00:46:04.280 If you really are looking out for your own interests, then in a relationship, in a marriage, you should be selfless.

00:46:10.840 And then you'll have a better time and your life will be better and you will grow in love.

00:46:14.220 And you will have a smile on your pillow every night and you will wake up feeling joyful.

00:46:19.300 If you want to look out for your own self-interests in a relationship, don't be selfish.

00:46:24.100 From Matthew.

00:46:24.860 Good day, Mr. Covfefe.

00:46:26.320 Was public speaking ever difficult for you?

00:46:28.300 Assuming someone is not naturally charismatic, how much of getting better at public speaking is just practicing it over and over?

00:46:34.320 And how much is it conquering your fear of failure or worry of what people think of you?

00:46:39.200 What is the relationship between this experience and this fear?

00:46:42.360 Thanks, big fan.

00:46:44.120 So I don't remember too much about when I was a baby, but I have heard that I spoke at a very young age.

00:46:49.920 I think I started speaking at 11 months or something.

00:46:53.020 So there might be a natural component to speaking publicly or being comfortable speaking.

00:46:58.400 And so perhaps some people are less naturally fit for that than others.

00:47:03.640 But I think much more important than that is practice and training over time.

00:47:10.300 You know, I recommend acting classes to everybody.

00:47:14.800 I think it's very helpful.

00:47:15.920 It helps you understand characters.

00:47:17.320 It helps you study human nature.

00:47:18.920 It helps you participate in an artistic field.

00:47:21.660 It gets you better at speaking.

00:47:22.840 It gets you better at knowing just the muscles of speaking.

00:47:26.500 Sometimes people on Twitter will make fun of me for enunciating too much or having precise diction.

00:47:32.300 I've taken a lot of diction classes.

00:47:34.080 That's just the way I talk, you know.

00:47:35.880 And it's good because then people can understand you more easily.

00:47:38.560 So I think you can overcome that very easily.

00:47:40.380 Some of our great orators had speech problems.

00:47:43.920 Winston Churchill had a speech problem.

00:47:45.240 I don't think Abraham Lincoln was, you know, from the age of two just spouting off and listening to the sound of his own voice.

00:47:52.080 I don't think he was doing vaudeville shows or anything like that.

00:47:54.340 It can come with practice and with practice then you have to have, then you gain in confidence.

00:48:00.020 But it is a muscle.

00:48:00.880 It's a muscle like anything else.

00:48:02.780 A little pro tip here, if you're ever doing a university play or something like that,

00:48:08.800 I think a lot of people when they're trying to memorize lines, they just read them in their head.

00:48:13.140 So they'll have the script up and they just read them in their head.

00:48:15.460 And you won't memorize lines very effectively that way.

00:48:18.520 The way that you most effectively memorize lines is to say them in a very exaggerated way.

00:48:22.620 So, you know, for a question you could say, dear Michael, President Covfefe, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot.

00:48:28.160 And you do that because there is a certain muscle memory and it will trigger other things.

00:48:33.580 Especially in our culture, a lot of people just want to have a rationalist view of everything.

00:48:39.980 To have everything abstracted and in the ethereal realm.

00:48:42.480 But you've got to put it into your body.

00:48:43.760 And when you put it into your body, it'll become a lot easier for you.

00:48:47.340 As for...

00:48:48.760 All right, I'll get to that.

00:48:51.820 And I'll get to the next part of that if it pops up in another question.

00:48:55.020 From Kyle.

00:48:56.500 Michael, I'm in college and there are few girls in my classes that I'm interested in dating.

00:49:01.080 Switch colleges, dude.

00:49:02.720 One of the reasons why I haven't asked one of them out is because I do not have a car.

00:49:06.580 I could call an Uber to pick her up, walk, take the bus, or have her drive us. 0.99

00:49:11.940 I don't do this because I feel like it is my traditional responsibility to provide the transportation.

00:49:16.080 The real answer here is me manning up and asking one of them out.

00:49:18.980 But then it comes to what is the most proper way for us to get around town.

00:49:23.140 Thank you and I can't wait for your next Valentine's Day conversation, Kyle.

00:49:26.760 Don't worry about it.

00:49:27.520 You're in college.

00:49:28.120 Don't worry about a car.

00:49:28.760 I never had a car in college.

00:49:30.600 I didn't have a car when I lived in the city.

00:49:33.180 I wouldn't worry about that.

00:49:34.200 It depends.

00:49:34.580 If you're going to go to a bar or a restaurant or something that's near where you and she live,

00:49:39.700 then you can walk.

00:49:40.480 I think that's perfectly fine.

00:49:41.680 Or take an Uber.

00:49:42.560 Taking Ubers are great because then you can drink a lot and not worry about killing somebody.

00:49:46.340 That's a win-win.

00:49:49.300 This, though, does get to a point that I've talked about before when people ask me for dating advice.

00:49:53.880 You're not going to ask a girl out, even if you like a girl, 1.00

00:49:56.520 even if you think she's cute and you think she's smart and funny or whatever,

00:49:59.180 because you're worried that you won't impress her by not having a car.

00:50:05.080 You're just thinking about you.

00:50:06.280 Forget about that.

00:50:06.840 Who cares?

00:50:07.800 What is it about?

00:50:08.540 Is it about you showing off to a girl or is it about you getting the girl?

00:50:11.600 Get the girl, dude. 1.00

00:50:12.500 Get the girl. 0.99

00:50:13.860 Hope that helps.

00:50:15.480 I'll do one more.

00:50:16.520 One more.

00:50:16.960 I'm sorry.

00:50:17.380 I'm doing it.

00:50:17.860 Too bad.

00:50:18.860 From Mark.

00:50:19.580 Michael, your article, Here's All of the Evidence Against Brett Kavanaugh,

00:50:23.540 is well-written and informative.

00:50:25.740 It shares the same level of precision as some of your other books.

00:50:29.140 The Product of a Master.

00:50:30.460 Well done.

00:50:32.080 Thank you.

00:50:32.740 You're clearly a scholar.

00:50:33.880 I'm glad.

00:50:34.760 That's a good question to end on because it's not a question.

00:50:37.260 It's just a statement.

00:50:38.440 And you clearly have a robust wealth of historical and political knowledge to draw on

00:50:43.180 if you could understand my article, Here's All of the Evidence Against Brett Kavanaugh.

00:50:47.420 Well, I've got a great book that I can send you.

00:50:49.580 Okay, that's our show.

00:50:51.160 We're going to have a show tomorrow because we didn't have one on Tuesday.

00:50:53.480 So I will see you then.

00:50:54.420 In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles.

00:50:55.400 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:50:56.400 Talk to you soon.

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The Michael Knowles Show - September 20, 2018

Ep. 220 - Much Ado About Nothing

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