The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 290 - Fourth Trimester Abortion

00:00:00.000 As Democrats embrace fourth trimester abortion, they make the same mistake Republicans have made on the abortion debate in reverse.

00:00:07.520 We will analyze the undocumented infants, then deep fakes, gene editing, and Cheerios. 0.99

00:00:13.860 Finally, the mailbag. I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:23.780 So much to get to today. The Democrats destroy their entire abortion argument. 0.99

00:00:28.380 We actually just have some breaking news now.

00:00:30.800 It's being reported that Herman Cain, former presidential candidate, 999 plan of 999 fame,

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00:02:52.820 This news about Herman Cain, I just want to get to it briefly because it's terrific. 0.99

00:02:58.100 People are making fun of Donald Trump for picking Herman Cain because Herman Cain is supposed to be some big idiot or something. 0.98

00:03:04.920 Herman Cain is an extraordinarily intelligent and successful man. 1.00

00:03:08.300 He was the CEO of a major pizza company.

00:03:11.280 You know, not your mom and pop shop down the street.

00:03:13.700 What was it? Godfather Pizza.

00:03:14.840 He's actually already served, I believe, on the Federal Reserve Board in Kansas or somewhere, one of the Federal Reserve Boards.

00:03:21.780 So he's actually a pretty great candidate for this, and he's well-known.

00:03:25.660 He's a public figure. He's been vetted by the media and been vetted by voters.

00:03:30.080 I think it's a terrific choice, and he's a great character.

00:03:33.620 I mean, he's just a great personage to have out there.

00:03:37.020 So I'm all for it.

00:03:37.960 It also takes the Federal Reserve, which is one of the most opaque institutions in the history of government,

00:03:44.120 and it makes it a little bit more transparent by having a public figure serving on the board.

00:03:48.640 If it's true, I think it's a great idea.

00:03:50.460 Bring it on, and it'll drive the left crazy because Herman Cain drives them crazy.

00:03:55.740 So you got my blessing.

00:03:57.120 A really dark story that actually is redounding well, I think, for the pro-life movement is in Virginia now.

00:04:05.580 Governor Northam appears to be one-upping Andrew Cuomo in New York.

00:04:10.900 You remember that last week Andrew Cuomo cheered, signed legislation that would allow a baby to be killed one second before it's born.

00:04:19.320 And now in Virginia, Northam wants to out-infanticide even Andrew Cuomo by saying that you can kill babies even after birth.

00:04:29.380 Cheering it along, fourth trimester abortions.

00:04:31.900 Here's Governor Northam in his own words.

00:04:33.960 And she was pressed by a Republican delegate about whether her bill would permit an abortion, 0.94

00:04:38.940 even as a woman is essentially dilating, ready to give birth.

00:04:42.340 And she answered that it would permit an abortion at that stage of labor. 0.56

00:04:48.140 Do you support her measure and explain her answer?

00:04:52.340 Yeah, you know, I wasn't there, Julie, and I certainly can't speak for Delegate Tran.

00:04:58.960 But I will tell you, one, first thing I would say, this is why decisions such as this should be made by providers,

00:05:07.160 physicians, and the mothers and fathers that are involved.

00:05:13.040 But there are, you know, when we talk about third trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of obviously the mother,

00:05:22.240 with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician, by the way.

00:05:27.060 And it's done in cases where there may be severe deformities.

00:05:30.820 There may be a fetus that's non-viable.

00:05:34.820 So listen to what he says.

00:05:36.000 First of all, he says, I don't really want to comment on this.

00:05:40.260 I'm really, this is an awkward topic to talk about.

00:05:42.800 But that's why decisions should be made by the parents and the doctor.

00:05:46.800 So when he's saying that, this decision should be made by the parents and the doctor,

00:05:50.200 he's saying it's perfectly fine for parents and or doctors to kill babies one second before they're born as the woman is dilating.

00:05:57.280 But then, I mean, that's just the sort of political empty slogan that allows you to say nothing but sound like you're saying something.

00:06:05.140 Where it gets really dark is he says, look, most third trimester abortions, they happen because the baby's deformed.

00:06:13.940 Oh, you don't want any of those deformed babies. 1.00

00:06:16.840 You don't want any of those imperfect babies. 1.00

00:06:19.480 Those babies are garbage. 1.00

00:06:21.160 We should just throw them out. 1.00

00:06:22.720 Why would we want any deformed people in our society? 1.00

00:06:26.340 Ugh, yuck, gross. 0.54

00:06:29.100 There was a video, I wish we had it, we don't have the clip, of a man with Down syndrome testifying on this point.

00:06:35.080 You'll remember last year, Iceland said that they had eliminated Down syndrome in the country.

00:06:40.800 They didn't eliminate Down syndrome, they just kill all the Down syndrome babies. 0.99

00:06:44.160 And he said, I am a man, this man with Down syndrome.

00:06:47.440 He says, I am a man.

00:06:49.120 I'm a person.

00:06:50.860 You don't need to eradicate me.

00:06:53.140 I want to be treated as a person.

00:06:54.780 Look, I am manifestly a human being. 1.00

00:06:58.200 But according to Governor Northam, that baby should be killed. 1.00

00:07:01.880 Because he's not perfect in Governor Northam's eyes. 0.99

00:07:05.880 Morally speaking, I'm sure that that Down syndrome baby is far more perfect than Governor Northam, 0.96

00:07:11.440 who thinks it's perfectly fine to kill babies after they've been born. 0.78

00:07:15.600 But just listen, that's what you always hear. 0.53

00:07:17.360 Well, what if it's deformed? 0.84

00:07:18.720 So what?

00:07:19.240 You're deformed. 0.99

00:07:20.300 You're deformed. 0.99

00:07:20.860 Who isn't deformed? 1.00

00:07:22.220 Who is a perfect person?

00:07:23.320 Show me a perfect person.

00:07:25.140 I can point to one, maybe two.

00:07:27.640 Show me, are you a perfect person? 0.87

00:07:29.780 No, you're deformed. 0.87

00:07:30.860 Maybe you're physically deformed. 0.87

00:07:32.020 Maybe you're spiritually deformed or mentally deformed.

00:07:36.740 You know, look, I don't want to talk myself down here. 0.95

00:07:39.840 I'm not exactly an Adonis of a man.

00:07:42.020 I'm not an Olympian.

00:07:43.420 I probably wouldn't do very well in armed combat.

00:07:48.000 Does that make me not perfect?

00:07:50.040 Does that make me, yeah, I guess I'm not perfect.

00:07:51.860 Does that mean that I should be killed as I'm, not even just before I'm born, but after I'm born?

00:07:57.040 No, but barbaric cultures do this. 0.97

00:07:59.580 And throughout all of history, the vast majority of barbaric cultures have done this, have killed babies.

00:08:05.080 And now we, ostensibly a civilized culture, are delving into this. 0.97

00:08:08.920 We're going back to our animal, brutish, barbaric roots to kill babies, not just before they're born, but after they're born. 0.99

00:08:15.980 He goes on. 0.97

00:08:16.460 In this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen.

00:08:22.780 The infant would be delivered.

00:08:24.900 The infant would be kept comfortable.

00:08:27.360 The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired.

00:08:32.720 And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. 0.73

00:08:36.480 So I think this was really blown out of proportion.

00:08:40.000 Blown out of proportion?

00:08:41.420 Are you kidding?

00:08:42.600 Listen to it.

00:08:43.200 You've made it worse, Governor Northam.

00:08:44.800 Governor Northam has made this worse by saying the baby.

00:08:48.260 Let's say that the baby survives an abortion.

00:08:50.380 Let's say the baby is born.

00:08:52.480 That's what he's saying.

00:08:53.060 The baby is born.

00:08:54.420 And then if the mother and father don't want the baby, they won't help it to survive.

00:09:01.080 But it gets even crazier than that.

00:09:04.960 They're saying, well, okay, the baby is born.

00:09:07.340 It's alive.

00:09:08.220 And then if the mother and father want to resuscitate it or sustain it or keep it alive, they can do that. 0.95

00:09:14.740 And then they'll have a conversation about whether they want to kill it, whether they want to go right back and kill it.

00:09:22.340 So you've got the baby. 1.00

00:09:23.940 You try to kill it. 1.00

00:09:25.100 It's born. 1.00

00:09:26.120 You then resuscitate it. 0.99

00:09:27.620 And then you decide if you want to kill it again. 0.99

00:09:29.220 This is the logical conclusion of abortion.

00:09:33.080 I love that Democrats are finally, honestly speaking about the logical conclusion of abortion.

00:09:39.920 And you're seeing it in all of its gory logic, in the natural conclusion of abortion.

00:09:48.280 Then the parents will talk about it if that's what's desired.

00:09:51.760 I think there are a lot of parents who might have various desires about their 15-year-old teenage boys.

00:09:57.900 I think there are a lot of parents who, if you ask them on any given day what their desires are about keeping their teenage boy or not keeping their teenage boy, you might get different answers.

00:10:07.260 That doesn't mean that parents should be allowed to do whatever they want with children.

00:10:12.440 That's why we have child abuse laws. 1.00

00:10:14.700 That's why we have child protection laws. 1.00

00:10:16.980 The child is entitled to certain rights as well, not to be killed an hour after it's born.

00:10:23.200 The baby's born.

00:10:24.720 It's sitting there.

00:10:25.540 And then the mother says, nah, pish posh, I don't want it. 0.75

00:10:29.360 And okay, and then you're talking to your doctor.

00:10:31.360 And okay, the doctor says, well, you don't want it.

00:10:33.400 It's only been out for an hour.

00:10:34.920 It's only been moving around this earth for an hour or so. 1.00

00:10:37.500 We'll kill it. 0.99

00:10:38.800 Because it's being blown way out of proportion, according to Governor Northam. 1.00

00:10:42.320 He goes on.

00:10:42.920 But again, we want the government not to be involved in these types of decisions.

00:10:48.680 We want the decision to be made by the mothers and their providers.

00:10:53.120 And this is why, Julie, that legislators, most of whom are men, by the way, shouldn't be telling a woman what she should and shouldn't be doing with her body.

00:11:02.700 So what he said is gobbledygook.

00:11:05.500 It doesn't mean anything.

00:11:06.680 He said two sentences.

00:11:08.000 One was more nonsensical than the last.

00:11:10.120 But to begin, he says, we don't think the government should be involved in this.

00:11:13.900 B.S.

00:11:14.800 You never met one single action on earth that you didn't think the government should be involved in.

00:11:20.600 Democrats think that the government should now be involved in all of industry.

00:11:23.960 That's what the Green New Deal is. 0.75

00:11:25.340 You think the government should be involved in 70% of my paycheck.

00:11:28.420 And actually, when you add state and local in New York, it gets up to 82.3% of my paycheck.

00:11:33.560 You want the government to be involved in my church.

00:11:36.040 You want government to be involved in my work.

00:11:37.580 You want the government to be involved in my home.

00:11:39.220 You want the government to be involved in what I eat, in fast food, in my car, in my every single thing.

00:11:45.640 You want the government to be involved, except protecting a baby from being murdered.

00:11:51.540 And now I want to drop any sense of euphemisms.

00:11:54.740 At least I can understand an honest debate where you say, is abortion identical to murder?

00:12:00.240 Or is it morally similar to murder?

00:12:02.020 I understand that there is an ethical debate to be had.

00:12:05.280 I think the answer is relatively clear, but I'm willing to use more clinical language.

00:12:10.420 The baby is born. 1.00

00:12:12.320 You have intent to kill it. 1.00

00:12:14.760 It is out there. 1.00

00:12:15.780 It's kicking and crying and moving its little arms around.

00:12:18.580 There is no way that you could jump through any sort of mental gymnastics to pretend that that isn't murder.

00:12:24.540 Murder is the only instance that Governor Northam doesn't want the government to be involved in your life. 1.00

00:12:30.420 And then he says, and this is why, this is why the legislators, most of whom are men, and we all know men are idiots. 1.00

00:12:40.400 Yeah, well, one is, Governor. 1.00

00:12:41.700 I at least agree. 1.00

00:12:42.700 At least one man in this situation is a complete dummy. 0.99

00:12:46.480 Well, men, most of them are men. 0.97

00:12:48.720 That's why they shouldn't be involved in these decisions.

00:12:51.780 Well, first of all, that conclusion does not follow from that premise.

00:12:55.880 He's just describing murdering a baby, and then he says, as an absolute non sequitur, that's why legislators, the majority of whom are men, should not be involved in this decision.

00:13:05.680 Why?

00:13:06.120 Why is that?

00:13:06.760 Show me.

00:13:07.380 There is no logic at all that connects those things.

00:13:10.020 But also, men have brains.

00:13:13.100 Some men have brains.

00:13:13.860 Men who are not Governor Northam or Andrew Cuomo have brains.

00:13:16.980 And we can think about ethical questions and political questions that we have for all of human history and constructed every civilization ever in all the history of the world. 0.98

00:13:29.320 So I think that men can consider the question of whether we should kill our children or not.

00:13:34.200 In nature, many fathers kill their offspring.

00:13:38.800 This is bad.

00:13:39.900 This is not a good thing.

00:13:40.600 We shouldn't emulate that in our societies.

00:13:43.820 Men can think of it.

00:13:44.640 It's such a cop-out. 1.00

00:13:46.000 It's for cowardly men. 0.95

00:13:47.900 I mean, it's for, and I don't mean to use the two synonymously, but it's for Democrats like Governor Northam who don't want to lead. 0.98

00:13:57.560 They don't want to lead politically or intellectually or ethically.

00:14:02.060 And so they say, well, I'm a man.

00:14:03.140 I can't do anything.

00:14:03.980 Well, I'm like Homer Simpson.

00:14:07.000 Yeah, he is.

00:14:08.000 You can be. 1.00

00:14:08.680 Men can be just like that stereotype of the stupid idiot father on sitcoms. 1.00

00:14:14.680 You know, Ray Romano or Family Guy or whatever. 1.00

00:14:20.340 Men can be like that.

00:14:21.820 Governor Northam's choosing to be like that.

00:14:23.900 He is.

00:14:24.340 He's Homer Simpson.

00:14:25.100 Governor Homer Simpson.

00:14:26.500 But not all men are like that.

00:14:27.860 Plenty of men are men.

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00:16:12.720 Don't say I never did nothing for you.

00:16:14.660 This is the only time they want the government to be involved.

00:16:18.420 The good side of this, it's so, you know, watching that clip, you get so, you just want

00:16:23.540 to go out and shake the guy.

00:16:24.760 But there is a very good side to this, which is that right now, the Democrats are making

00:16:30.100 exactly the same mistake on pro-life that Republicans have made in arguing pro-life for 20 years,

00:16:37.400 which is they are taking the bait.

00:16:41.440 For them, you know, the Democrats have followed their own logical, their own logic to its conclusion.

00:16:47.140 So now they're arguing about pro-life at the moment of birth.

00:16:53.360 What the Democrats used to always do was try to argue about pro-life at the moment of conception.

00:16:59.060 And so they would say, were you telling me a little egg that has been fertilized for one hour,

00:17:05.320 that's a baby, and if you take that out, that's murder?

00:17:08.540 Now, this is a disingenuous argument because no abortion happens at one day, happens weeks

00:17:14.000 and weeks later, and often in the second trimester, and now apparently in the third trimester.

00:17:19.760 So it's a disingenuous argument.

00:17:21.540 But in both instances, you have the left and the right following their ideas to their logical

00:17:26.660 conclusions.

00:17:27.780 So if abortion is wrong, if it's morally similar to murder, if it is murder, then it's not wrong 1.00

00:17:35.400 at some arbitrary deadline.

00:17:36.820 It's not wrong because it sprouts a couple fingers or because it opens its eyes or something

00:17:40.980 like that.

00:17:42.140 It's wrong from the beginning.

00:17:44.060 It's intrinsically wrong.

00:17:45.280 It's wrong from the moment of conception.

00:17:47.000 That's the logical conclusion of abortion being wrong.

00:17:50.720 Now, if abortion is not wrong, if it's, you know, it's just nothing, it's perfectly fine, 0.94

00:17:56.100 then it's not just that it's not wrong at the moment of conception, it's not wrong at

00:18:00.160 the moment of birth.

00:18:01.540 And frankly, if it's not wrong at the moment of birth, it's not wrong an hour or two after

00:18:06.060 birth.

00:18:06.820 And really, really, if it's not wrong an hour or two after birth, it's not wrong when they

00:18:11.600 enter kindergarten.

00:18:13.040 They're taking their idea to its logical conclusion.

00:18:16.400 The left has been radicalized.

00:18:18.560 It's been radicalized, I think, in part by Donald Trump.

00:18:21.760 That has accelerated it.

00:18:22.980 But this has been growing for a long time.

00:18:25.140 The left's radical abortion agenda on demand at not just at the moment of birth, but after

00:18:30.540 birth.

00:18:30.820 I love that we are now arguing about abortion there, because as a matter of principle, both

00:18:37.060 sides have to accept that.

00:18:38.620 The right has to accept that life is life at the moment of conception.

00:18:42.680 And the left, rather, has to accept that the fetus, the morally irrelevant embryo, has

00:18:49.580 to remain morally irrelevant even at the moment of birth.

00:18:52.100 They both have to follow that to its conclusion.

00:18:54.740 But just from a PR perspective, just from an optics perspective for people who don't think

00:18:59.840 about this very deeply, it's much easier to argue for pro-life at the moment of birth than

00:19:06.960 it is at the fertilization of an egg.

00:19:09.920 It just is.

00:19:10.580 We just see the pictures.

00:19:12.060 This is why sonograms are so helpful to the pro-life cause, is that you see that it's

00:19:15.800 not just some little blob of something.

00:19:17.460 It's a baby with a face and eyes and nose and a mouth and little fingers.

00:19:22.200 It's not that the fingers make it a morally significant being.

00:19:26.000 It's that the fingers remind us that it is a morally significant being.

00:19:29.860 It's a person.

00:19:30.720 It's a human.

00:19:32.140 It's a living human being.

00:19:34.720 You know, I have friends who support abortion.

00:19:37.800 I have friends who have had abortions who say that late-term abortion is infanticide.

00:19:44.280 Now, they don't see that it's morally grave in the second trimester, in the first trimester

00:19:50.420 too.

00:19:50.700 They can't see that.

00:19:51.800 But they can all see it at the end.

00:19:54.700 When you look at the public opinion polls, over 80%, 90% of people oppose late-term abortion.

00:20:00.880 Duh, it's so obviously a baby.

00:20:03.800 Let's keep Democrats fighting this here. 1.00

00:20:05.540 This is absolutely a terrific place to be having this battle.

00:20:09.760 Governor Northam, I'm going to donate to his campaign so that he keeps going on the radio

00:20:13.520 and exposing his moral depravity.

00:20:17.160 The mainstream media know this, by the way.

00:20:18.780 The mainstream media totally know this.

00:20:20.640 They're the ones who always force us to have the abortion debate two days after conception. 1.00

00:20:25.520 They know this, and so they're not covering this.

00:20:27.600 Last night, MSNBC and CNN did not cover Governor Northam's comments where he advocated killing

00:20:34.820 babies after they are born.

00:20:37.600 They wouldn't cover.

00:20:38.120 Is that a news story?

00:20:39.160 No, we have to talk about tweets more, don't we?

00:20:41.660 Let's just talk.

00:20:42.340 No, guys, look.

00:20:43.000 We don't have time to talk about a sitting U.S. governor advocating the slaughter of babies

00:20:47.580 after they've been born because we've got to talk about Russia or something or whatever

00:20:52.420 or Roger Stone or I don't know, anything but that, anything but talking about abortion.

00:20:57.840 How did the Democrats fall into this?

00:21:00.540 The Democrats fell into this because we have been pushing their buttons,

00:21:06.680 and President Trump in particular has been pushing their buttons.

00:21:09.960 Barack Obama pushed our buttons.

00:21:11.340 He really got under our skin.

00:21:12.700 I mean, that guy, those little things he would say, you didn't build that.

00:21:17.400 You didn't build your business.

00:21:18.380 Somebody else built that for you.

00:21:19.440 Those little, mm. 0.69

00:21:20.960 He'd say that the day that the Supreme Court invents a fictional right to gay marriage by

00:21:25.260 redefining the essential human institution, the day that he does that, what does Obama do?

00:21:31.420 He paints the White House rainbow colors in light.

00:21:34.160 He just knew how to push our buttons, and it drove us a little crazy, and now Trump is doing

00:21:38.400 the same thing.

00:21:39.040 He's pushing their buttons, and he's driving them a little crazy. 0.98

00:21:41.600 You'd have to be crazy to advocate killing a baby a day after it's born. 0.67

00:21:45.700 So now what happens? 0.99

00:21:46.780 The Democrats are telling us not to believe our lying eyes.

00:21:50.000 They're telling us that a baby isn't a baby.

00:21:51.780 It's only a baby if you say so.

00:21:53.420 It's only a baby if it's desired.

00:21:54.980 It's radical subjectivism.

00:21:56.680 We talked about it on the show yesterday with the Grieven Study Guys.

00:21:59.840 This is born out of a culture which increasingly undermines reality.

00:22:03.620 The sort of funny version of this, I mean, the not just darkly funny, but just bizarrely funny

00:22:11.640 version of this is something called deep fakes.

00:22:13.980 If you haven't seen them, deep fakes are videos of real people that look totally real,

00:22:19.880 and they're completely fake.

00:22:21.760 So the ultimate deep fake came out today.

00:22:25.400 This is a deep fake.

00:22:26.520 If you are watching, I'm sorry.

00:22:28.320 If you're listening, I think you're actually probably better off.

00:22:30.960 I can narrate it for you.

00:22:32.720 This is a deep fake of Jennifer Lawrence receiving her Golden Globe Award or speaking to the press

00:22:38.320 at the Golden Globes with the head of Steve Buscemi on her, an image I never want to see.

00:22:44.440 I want to spoon out my mind's eye just having looked at it.

00:22:47.680 Look at how convincing this is.

00:22:50.040 I just like, it was just, I don't know.

00:22:52.440 This was very.

00:22:53.500 You can hear Jennifer Lawrence and her Steve Buscemi head is moving around perfectly.

00:23:00.860 It's blinking.

00:23:02.020 Sheridan Watson from BuzzFeed right here.

00:23:04.420 Hi.

00:23:04.900 Oh, the mouth is moving.

00:23:06.440 Oh, yes.

00:23:06.960 Just little, little tics, the eyebrows going off.

00:23:10.140 Of all cities.

00:23:11.520 Even the eyes are tracking.

00:23:13.520 My favorite is probably Lisa Vanderpump.

00:23:16.000 Oh, this is so creepy.

00:23:17.660 My least favorite, I don't want to have to say.

00:23:21.720 I need to call an exorcist.

00:23:23.400 I don't want to have to say, because who knows when you're going to run into these people. 0.97

00:23:26.520 This needs to be burned to the ground. 0.99

00:23:28.160 This needs to be set on fire and burned until it is gone. 0.99

00:23:32.700 This is a very terrifying thing. 0.99

00:23:33.920 It's called deep fakes.

00:23:34.940 When this hits porn, society is over.

00:23:40.080 When deep fakes, and actually, I think it already has.

00:23:43.500 Drudge Report has been covering this a lot.

00:23:45.660 I think Scarlett Johansson tried to sue some people or was looking at legal options because they were doing this with Scarlett Johansson, except in porn. 0.98

00:23:55.940 And she basically concluded, you can't stop this.

00:23:59.640 There's no way to stop this.

00:24:01.080 You can't stop the creation of fake videos, videos that really look like you're doing something.

00:24:09.420 It could be you, you know, a video of you committing an axe murder, and it would look really convincing.

00:24:14.900 If Steve Buscemi can convincingly become Jennifer Lawrence, anything is possible.

00:24:18.860 And so when this, I think once we get the combination of sex robots, virtual reality, and deep fakes, that is the end of society.

00:24:28.640 This is already affecting Japan.

00:24:30.540 Japan is having its already dwindling population, have now a population crisis, in part because of porn and sex robots. 0.70

00:24:38.840 Deep fakes mean that you can turn any fantasy into reality, almost.

00:24:45.320 You can turn any fantasy into virtual reality.

00:24:49.380 And this is going to have some seriously negative effects, not just on weird videos on the internet, but on our culture and our politics.

00:24:56.120 What this means, what the deep fakes mean, what the combination we're seeing, sex robots and virtual reality porn,

00:25:04.120 what this means is that you can turn any fantasy into a virtual reality.

00:25:09.600 And it's symptomatic of a culture that we have, which is a culture of fantasy.

00:25:13.260 The fantasy that the baby isn't a baby.

00:25:15.520 The fantasy that men can be women and women can be men.

00:25:19.220 The fantasy that indulging in fantasy will make it a reality, but it won't.

00:25:23.280 It will make it a virtual reality.

00:25:25.580 It's not real.

00:25:27.260 This goes even further.

00:25:28.920 It goes further than weird videos or videos of Scarlett Johansson that we certainly can't play on the show.

00:25:34.880 This goes to the physical essence of the human person.

00:25:39.520 There's a story out today.

00:25:40.680 A San Francisco biochemist and entrepreneur, Josiah Zahner, is now making gene editing equipment available to the public.

00:25:49.760 There was that horrifying story that came out a couple weeks ago about a baby in China who was gene edited.

00:25:57.380 So some scientist went in, edited the genes of a baby, and it came out as a designer baby.

00:26:02.940 And this does not just affect one baby.

00:26:05.140 This affects all of that baby's descendants.

00:26:08.300 This could affect the human race forever.

00:26:12.000 And it's being done in a laboratory with people who should not be tooling around with this stuff.

00:26:17.480 Now, this is being released to consumers and the public.

00:26:20.240 This guy, what's his name, Josiah Zahner, he is making it such that you can inject frogs with this.

00:26:29.000 And the frogs will double in size in two months.

00:26:31.440 And certainly people will start using this on themselves.

00:26:34.060 Zahner already does use it on himself.

00:26:35.760 He's done it at press conferences.

00:26:37.540 He'll just go in and inject it with himself and growth gene editing or whatever.

00:26:43.180 However, this is the lie of self-definition.

00:26:47.820 This is the lie of self-ownership.

00:26:49.640 It comes out of this individualist culture that prioritizes the radical subjective, just you, me, me, me, I, me, mine,

00:26:56.760 and tries to pretend that fantasy is reality.

00:27:00.200 You don't own yourself.

00:27:01.440 You don't have a right to define reality.

00:27:04.140 You don't have any of those rights.

00:27:05.660 This is the logical conclusion of liberalism, lowercase l and capital L liberalism, that has been going on now for centuries.

00:27:13.500 And it is terrifying.

00:27:15.360 It is bankrupt.

00:27:16.680 It is very wrong.

00:27:18.780 Fortunately, we're starting to see the illogic of it.

00:27:23.120 You know, one of the great advantages of conservatism and conservative thought is that you can't defeat reality.

00:27:30.720 Fantasy can't defeat reality.

00:27:32.480 You can try.

00:27:33.380 They've been trying since the Garden of Eden.

00:27:34.800 But you can't do it.

00:27:36.760 Ultimately, the real world will assert itself. 0.99

00:27:39.920 Before we go, just really quickly, I have to comment on the stupidest thing on Morning Joe yesterday. 0.94

00:27:46.120 Then we'll get to the mailbag. 0.99

00:27:47.800 But to call it the stupidest thing on Morning Joe is really high praise. 0.99

00:27:51.780 I mean, there's a lot of competition for that segment. 0.99

00:27:54.580 On Morning Joe, Mika Brzezinski has likely presidential candidate Howard Schultz on, and she asks him the important questions.

00:28:02.680 How much does an 18-ounce box of Cheerios cost?

00:28:07.460 An 18-ounce box of Cheerios?

00:28:09.320 Mm-hmm.

00:28:09.660 I don't eat Cheerios.

00:28:09.820 See, now here's the deal.

00:28:10.660 I don't eat Cheerios.

00:28:11.800 Here's the deal.

00:28:12.420 You ask us.

00:28:13.460 Yeah.

00:28:14.360 You know, like, budgets for the VA.

00:28:16.680 We're going to ask you questions about Cheerios.

00:28:18.020 Ask me what they want.

00:28:18.820 I don't eat Cheerios.

00:28:20.120 I'm sorry.

00:28:20.600 Okay.

00:28:21.220 It's four bucks.

00:28:22.120 Is it four bucks?

00:28:22.980 Yeah.

00:28:23.180 That's a lie.

00:28:23.920 Yeah.

00:28:24.500 It's okay.

00:28:25.240 Yeah.

00:28:25.740 Right.

00:28:26.060 Howard Schultz does not eat Cheerios because he is an adult.

00:28:28.880 I also don't eat Cheerios because I am an adult.

00:28:31.320 I have eggs for breakfast, or if I don't have time, I'll have coffee.

00:28:35.260 I don't.

00:28:35.940 Well, I ate.

00:28:36.520 The last time I ate cereal, I think I was nine years old. 1.00

00:28:39.440 What a stupid question. 1.00

00:28:40.880 What she's doing, she's trying to play it off like it's a harmless question. 1.00

00:28:43.660 What she's saying is, oh, you're a billionaire.

00:28:46.540 You can't relate to people.

00:28:48.040 You don't even know how much Cheerios cost.

00:28:49.280 I don't know how much Cheerios costs.

00:28:51.260 I eat eggs for breakfast.

00:28:52.520 Frankly, I don't know how much eggs cost because I'm married.

00:28:55.860 When was the last time Mika Brzezinski did her own grocery shopping? 0.99

00:28:58.940 Are you kidding me?

00:29:00.280 Do we really think that maybe she and Joe, they make a date out of it?

00:29:02.940 They have a fun time.

00:29:03.860 They go to Trader Joe's or something.

00:29:05.160 Give me a break. 1.00

00:29:05.900 How stupid. 1.00

00:29:06.740 They're going to try to do to Schultz what they did to George Bush, George Bush I, 1.00

00:29:11.220 which is he was doing a press op at a grocery store,

00:29:15.880 and he was asking perfectly reasonable questions to the cashier lady.

00:29:19.280 And they pretended that he didn't know what a grocery scanner was because he's so out of touch.

00:29:25.560 He doesn't buy Cheerios.

00:29:27.280 Yeah, right.

00:29:27.760 He doesn't because he's an adult.

00:29:28.960 Give me a break. 1.00

00:29:29.820 What a stupid. 1.00

00:29:30.440 And he's a billionaire. 1.00

00:29:31.220 And he is a billionaire.

00:29:32.440 He should not do his own grocery shopping.

00:29:34.580 If Howard Schultz were doing his own grocery shopping, I would seriously doubt his judgment.

00:29:40.180 You know, when these billionaires run as Democrats, they have a hard time 0.99

00:29:44.960 because they have to play into this stupid idea that you're supposed to be ashamed of your success. 0.99

00:29:51.400 Trump did not play into that. 0.99

00:29:52.860 Trump probably exaggerated his wealth, and it was to his benefit.

00:29:56.640 That's how you've got to lean in.

00:29:57.740 If Schultz is going to run as a billionaire in this day and age with his political party,

00:30:02.740 he is going to have to lean into it, and he's going to have to say,

00:30:05.420 I don't know, Mika. 1.00

00:30:07.020 What a stupid question, Mika. 1.00

00:30:09.060 Yeah, I don't eat Cheerios, and I don't go grocery shopping because I'm Howard Schultz. 1.00

00:30:13.060 I grew up in the projects penniless, and I became a self-made billionaire.

00:30:17.720 And I got two words for you, Mika, and they're not happy birthday.

00:30:21.040 They're not caramel macchiato.

00:30:22.600 Okay, we've got a lot of mailbag to get to.

00:30:24.600 Go over to dailywire.com.

00:30:26.380 Ten bucks a month, hundred dollars for an annual membership.

00:30:28.120 You get all the shows.

00:30:28.920 You get to ask questions.

00:30:29.580 You know what you get.

00:30:30.380 You get this.

00:30:31.780 You get the Leftist Tears Tumblr because I don't know how much a box of Cheerios costs,

00:30:38.980 but I know how much a vessel of Leftist Tears costs.

00:30:43.680 And did you know what the price is?

00:30:45.000 Priceless.

00:30:46.100 That's the price.

00:30:46.860 Be right back in a couple seconds.

00:30:48.740 We'll be back with the mailbag.

00:30:49.600 I'm going to get through all of these today.

00:31:01.520 I'm probably not.

00:31:02.440 From Cole.

00:31:03.280 Hey, Michael.

00:31:04.020 What are the most important benefits of the free market?

00:31:06.860 Why do so many claim that it is inherently for the rich and against the common worker?

00:31:11.080 Best, Cole.

00:31:11.820 Well, what aren't the benefits of the free market?

00:31:18.040 Prosperity is a benefit.

00:31:20.200 Freedom, liberty is a benefit.

00:31:22.920 Material increase is a benefit.

00:31:25.740 I mean, I suppose I really should reverse that.

00:31:28.180 The liberty is the best part.

00:31:29.420 Economic freedom is the best part.

00:31:31.040 You are free.

00:31:32.320 You are in a free country.

00:31:34.000 God wants you to be free.

00:31:35.580 You have property.

00:31:37.120 You have a right to your property.

00:31:38.500 You get to, you have a right to your labor.

00:31:41.180 You can exchange that labor for goods and services.

00:31:44.280 You can exchange that property for goods and services.

00:31:47.000 There's the freedom.

00:31:47.980 Prosperity comes along with it.

00:31:50.060 Pope John Paul II in Centesimus Annus talked about how free markets are the most efficient way to allocate resources.

00:31:57.880 And they're not just efficient, but they come out of your natural rights and the natural law.

00:32:04.580 They come out of your property and that to which you are entitled.

00:32:07.500 That's a good thing.

00:32:08.500 The reason that the left is able to demagogue free markets is envy.

00:32:13.220 Because in free markets, to use Thatcher's example, let's say you've got the poor guy here and the rich guy here.

00:32:19.160 The rich guy's got a little bit more money than the poor guy.

00:32:21.420 When you have free economies, inequality can be exacerbated.

00:32:25.940 But both groups are getting richer.

00:32:27.980 Just maybe the rich are getting richer faster than the poor.

00:32:30.680 The other thing that they forget is that these economies are very dynamic.

00:32:34.220 So if you're in the upper quintile of wealth or income for one generation, it's unlikely that your family will get to stay there because the free markets are so dynamic.

00:32:43.260 So more likely, they'll drop down a quintile.

00:32:46.100 Maybe they'll drop down two quintiles.

00:32:47.620 And the lowest quintiles, controlling for cultural factors, can increase in free economies because they don't have to game the system or deal with corrupt politicians or deal with nepotism or whatever.

00:33:01.340 It's much more dynamic and it's much freer.

00:33:03.560 The way that the left demagogues it is by playing on envy.

00:33:06.980 Say, that guy has more than me and I want it.

00:33:09.180 It's just covetousness.

00:33:10.500 It's just, I mean, there are commandments against this.

00:33:13.540 But that's all they play on.

00:33:14.920 And unfortunately, it works because we have a broken human nature.

00:33:18.620 From Mark.

00:33:19.780 I heard you guys had a hoop at the workplace.

00:33:22.460 Would you care to record a game between you and Ben?

00:33:26.380 No, I would not like to do that.

00:33:28.140 And if I were to predict how that game would turn out, I think somehow we would both lose.

00:33:33.320 I don't know how exactly, but we would both, I think everybody would lose that game.

00:33:38.400 From Jess.

00:33:39.480 Dear Michael, you seem like the kind of charming fellow who can probably handle the uber leftists of LA as well as anyone.

00:33:46.040 How would you respond to someone who asked your preferred pronouns?

00:33:50.660 Sir and sir.

00:33:53.440 Those are my preferred pronouns.

00:33:54.800 From Rushton.

00:33:56.860 It's a great name.

00:33:57.900 Hey, Michael.

00:33:58.840 Over the past year, I have been reading incessantly, trying to get myself more enlightened.

00:34:03.600 I read Harvey Mansfield's Manliness because you mentioned it and I found it really useful.

00:34:07.660 I'm wondering if you have any other suggestions for other important works of classic or modern literature that I should read.

00:34:13.420 I'm not a Catholic, but I'm always trying to understand more about them and have read a little of St. Augustine and St. Teresa of Avila.

00:34:19.480 Thanks.

00:34:20.340 Well, sure, read all of them.

00:34:21.440 Read St. Augustine.

00:34:22.460 Read all the church fathers.

00:34:23.500 Read the doctors of the church.

00:34:24.380 Great idea.

00:34:25.240 For a book that you could read right now in politics and philosophy, you should read what I am now going through again, which is The Conservative Mind by Russell Kirk.

00:34:35.380 Just a terrific book.

00:34:36.500 It's not read enough.

00:34:37.280 And in many ways, it's the beginning of the modern conservative movement or the post-war conservative movement.

00:34:42.420 From Arun, dear Dr. Kofefe, you mentioned recently that your degree is in history.

00:34:48.460 If, God forbid, Ben Shapiro fired you and you went to grad school for your PhD, what area of history would you study for your dissertation?

00:34:56.160 Are there any specific subfields?

00:34:58.160 Are there any specific subfields that are in dire need of a conservative perspective or that are simply of particular interest to you?

00:35:03.420 I probably would study the medieval.

00:35:05.600 I love the Middle Ages.

00:35:06.980 It's the most misunderstood era in all of human history.

00:35:11.260 It's a wonderful era.

00:35:13.240 It's a brilliant era, a brilliant era of scholarship.

00:35:16.080 The greatest poem ever written was written during that era, the comedy by Dante.

00:35:19.820 And a wonderful era of theology and philosophy.

00:35:23.300 That's great.

00:35:24.020 You know, the one downside of this is it's probably the only field that is conservative.

00:35:29.620 You know, you don't become a medievalist if you're not a little weird and certainly a little conservative.

00:35:35.420 I don't mean conservative in the 1950s sense.

00:35:37.480 I mean conservative in the 1150s sense.

00:35:40.020 So I would probably go into that.

00:35:42.220 I just couldn't resist it.

00:35:43.240 I suppose if I wanted to be really helpful to the culture, I'd go into, you know, the history of the progressive era or something.

00:35:49.780 But come on, man.

00:35:50.800 What are you asking of me?

00:35:52.380 You only have one life.

00:35:53.400 I can't spend it doing that.

00:35:54.860 From Keith.

00:35:56.240 Michael, you're certainly the biggest optimist at the Daily Wire.

00:35:59.060 Ever since Trump conceded on the government shutdown, I've been feeling that conservatives keep losing even when they are in power.

00:36:06.680 And I'm afraid conservatives won't be in power for long.

00:36:09.740 What reasons do I have to be optimistic that conservative ideas will win out or gain ground in the future?

00:36:16.220 I would like to correct you.

00:36:17.300 I am not an optimist.

00:36:19.060 I have hope.

00:36:20.860 I am hopeful.

00:36:22.060 But I am not an optimist.

00:36:23.760 Optimism and pessimism are two sides of the same coin.

00:36:27.320 They're both disconnected from reality.

00:36:31.560 The pessimist says things can't get any worse.

00:36:35.380 And the optimist says, oh, yes, they can. 1.00

00:36:37.080 They're both silly. 1.00

00:36:39.960 They're disconnected. 0.99

00:36:41.300 Hope is real.

00:36:42.100 I have real hope grounded in a real fact.

00:36:45.540 Obviously, first and foremost, in Christ, in my faith.

00:36:49.180 That is where my hope comes from.

00:36:50.720 My Redeemer lives.

00:36:51.760 You can't keep me down.

00:36:53.680 It was the last political revolution.

00:36:55.400 Even the threat of death doesn't scare me.

00:36:57.920 That's a good reason to have hope.

00:36:59.200 But I'm not optimistic.

00:37:02.120 I'm not, I don't have a sort of glib, silly, oh, it's all going to be sunny.

00:37:07.640 No, I don't think so at all.

00:37:09.380 Actually, I'm fairly confident that politics will spiral and spiral.

00:37:13.320 But I have hope.

00:37:14.080 I just have hope anyway, despite the politics spiraling.

00:37:18.000 Because that's reality.

00:37:19.140 The one bit of political hope that I think I can give you is this.

00:37:23.680 Well, I mentioned it probably 10 minutes ago in the show.

00:37:27.620 Reality has a way of reasserting itself.

00:37:30.480 Now you have a giant political party.

00:37:33.640 The oldest continuous running political party in the world, the Democrat Party,

00:37:37.220 is embracing the idea that a baby is only a baby if a mother wants it to be a baby.

00:37:41.540 It's embracing the idea that men can really be women or women can really be men. 0.84

00:37:45.220 It's embracing total fantasy, total self-definition, ridiculous fantasies. 0.97

00:37:51.180 It's that we go, there was that video of a transgender guy who clearly had mental issues, 0.97

00:37:55.140 who is six foot two and he's walking into a store and he says,

00:37:58.500 I am clearly a woman.

00:38:00.040 I am, and he's not clearly a woman. 0.99

00:38:01.600 That is, I don't mean to mock the guy who was acting like a jerk, 0.99

00:38:05.480 but I don't mean to mock him. 0.99

00:38:06.900 I mean to mock the acceptance of that premise, which is absurd.

00:38:11.300 That can't go on forever.

00:38:13.140 Reality will reassert itself.

00:38:15.640 When is that going to happen?

00:38:16.900 I'm not quite so sure.

00:38:18.180 But you should not ground your hope in politicians.

00:38:20.120 You'll only be disappointed.

00:38:21.440 You have to ground real hope in something more profound than that.

00:38:24.820 From James.

00:38:26.380 Hello, Michael.

00:38:27.240 Love the show.

00:38:28.060 My question is about the argument that Jesus is just a retelling of the god Mithra.

00:38:33.340 What are your opinions on this?

00:38:35.000 Sincerely, James.

00:38:36.640 It's just nonsense.

00:38:37.860 This is the thing that they always do. 0.71

00:38:39.860 The lefties always do this.

00:38:41.200 Mithra, for those who don't know, is a pagan god.

00:38:44.220 It's a Roman pagan cult god.

00:38:46.080 For a while, the scholars tried to link it to a different Persian god, but that's sort

00:38:52.940 of broken down.

00:38:53.720 People don't really buy that anymore.

00:38:55.520 So the reason that Jesus is not a retelling of Mithra is that Christianity predates the

00:39:01.920 cult of Mithra.

00:39:03.180 So Mithra might be a retelling of Christ, but it's not the other way around.

00:39:07.900 Also, they don't really bear many similarities.

00:39:09.640 They try to say that Mithra was referred to as the Prince of Peace, and the this and the

00:39:14.180 that, and that just isn't true.

00:39:16.180 That's just totally made up.

00:39:18.080 They do this, too, with Christmas.

00:39:20.780 They say Christmas, there's no way it really happened on December 25th.

00:39:25.000 The only reason that we celebrate it on December 25th is because of the popularity of the pagan 1.00

00:39:32.580 holiday Sol Invictus, or Soli Invicti.

00:39:35.400 Also, that isn't true.

00:39:36.460 The celebration of Christmas predates the popularity of Sol Invictus.

00:39:40.080 Sol Invictus, if anything, was a reaction to Christianity. 0.75

00:39:45.320 December 25th has been celebrated for Christmas since the earliest days of Christianity.

00:39:49.940 In part, this was calculations from the resurrection, from the passion of Christ, and they calculated

00:39:56.800 it within, I think, nine months, and that's how you arrive at December 25th.

00:40:00.940 But regardless, the left, as always, gets things exactly backwards.

00:40:04.660 So they say, maybe it's a retelling of this pagan tradition.

00:40:08.240 Well, maybe look at your history books.

00:40:10.240 The pagan tradition came after Christianity.

00:40:13.020 From Jonathan.

00:40:14.200 Dear The Smart One, I was wondering if you could elaborate on your return to Jesus after being

00:40:18.440 an atheist for a decade.

00:40:19.940 What was the one event that began your turnaround?

00:40:22.460 Hashtag sign for Ben, stayed for Michael.

00:40:24.440 How long do we have?

00:40:25.400 I don't know.

00:40:25.560 We've got like three minutes left.

00:40:26.680 I'll tell you about my return to Christ.

00:40:27.960 I was an atheist for 10 years, more or less, agnostic.

00:40:32.100 Probably would have called myself an atheist from 13 to 23-ish.

00:40:35.880 It started to break down, and you can identify, I could identify a dozen moments that were really

00:40:41.040 key.

00:40:41.760 One thing that really started to crack my atheism was that all of the smartest people I met

00:40:47.200 in college were Christians, and most of them were Catholic or Eastern Orthodox.

00:40:51.320 Some were not.

00:40:52.640 You know, there were a lot of smart atheists, and in particular, I came across the modal

00:40:57.400 ontological argument for God, which I really found quite clever, done by Alvin Plantinga,

00:41:02.440 who's a Calvinist philosopher out of Notre Dame.

00:41:04.940 Then I started looking at other arguments for God, some of the Thomistic arguments for God.

00:41:10.180 Then I started looking at the arguments against God, and there aren't really any.

00:41:14.980 Then I delved into C.S. Lewis was helpful in this.

00:41:17.780 Then Chesterton, obviously, and I became firmly convinced that God exists, and then the question

00:41:26.000 is, what about Christ?

00:41:27.040 And if we think that God exists, then we must confront the person of Christ, the fact of

00:41:32.300 Christ, because Christ is not just a poem or a philosophy.

00:41:36.660 Christ is a man who claimed that he was God and died, was crucified, and then resurrected.

00:41:43.680 And then you have to look at evidence for the resurrection.

00:41:45.560 You have to look at evidence for Christ, and the evidence is overwhelming.

00:41:51.060 And really, only at that point did I begin to have what would be recognizably religious

00:41:58.880 experience, which is everything.

00:42:03.680 It's so much more convincing than reading an argument.

00:42:08.740 Thomas Aquinas, probably the greatest theologian ever to live, said he had a religious vision,

00:42:15.120 and he said, all that I have written seems like so much straw compared to what has been

00:42:21.440 revealed to me now.

00:42:23.560 But that came later.

00:42:24.880 So that's the brief overview.

00:42:26.960 If you and I ever grab a cigar, I'm sure we could go on about this for eight or ten hours.

00:42:31.060 One more question from Joseph.

00:42:32.960 Hey, Michael, big fan of your work.

00:42:34.720 My question is, why do politicians tend to speak in gibberish instead of speaking plainly?

00:42:39.400 Why cryptosism in lieu of speaking directly?

00:42:42.240 Thanks, Joe. 0.99

00:42:42.980 It's because they're cowards. 0.97

00:42:44.240 So they don't want to have to say anything or take a position on any subject. 0.97

00:42:48.300 So they try to speak out of both sides of their mouth.

00:42:50.620 Barack Obama reportedly bragged about this.

00:42:52.740 He said he could go into a room and have every person in that room, even if they had different

00:42:56.500 views, think that he was agreeing with them.

00:42:58.680 Bill Clinton is the master of this.

00:43:00.220 He was asked, I believe it was about the Gulf War, if he would go in and he said, well,

00:43:05.980 you know, I would have, my sympathies would have been with the minority, but I would have 0.99

00:43:11.380 reluctantly understood the views of the majority.

00:43:15.400 He said, what?

00:43:16.400 What was that word salad?

00:43:17.640 Um, we'll get one more question in. 1.00

00:43:23.060 It's because the short answer is because they're cowards. 0.99

00:43:26.000 From Adam. 0.97

00:43:27.380 Michael, you said on your podcast this week that you intend to send your kids to a liberal

00:43:30.840 arts school.

00:43:31.800 You then went on to say that not all kids need to go to college and that some may instead

00:43:35.620 be better served by learning a trade.

00:43:37.480 But is it right for you to presume that liberal arts is the best education for your yet to be

00:43:42.800 born children?

00:43:43.620 Thanks and love the show, Adam.

00:43:45.460 Yes and no.

00:43:46.720 I think I can reasonably expect that my children will be somewhat like me.

00:43:51.000 And certainly for me, that was the best choice.

00:43:53.520 Education also comes as a result of other education.

00:43:56.780 So if I, I hopefully am going to have a role in educating my children, not just when I pay

00:44:02.580 for college, but earlier on, I will educate them toward a liberal education.

00:44:07.680 Now, let's say they don't take to it.

00:44:09.240 Let's say that they just don't want to do it.

00:44:10.660 I've got plenty of people in my family who went straight into the military, plenty of

00:44:14.140 people who went straight to trade school, plenty of people who went straight to work.

00:44:17.220 Then you've got to guide kids to where they're leaning toward.

00:44:20.440 But I think, I think I'm sorry to say it's reasonable to expect that my child will not

00:44:25.920 be a linebacker in the NFL.

00:44:28.680 Probably not going to be a basketball player.

00:44:31.380 Probably, I don't know.

00:44:32.480 I'm just judging.

00:44:33.720 Maybe I'm prejudging.

00:44:35.020 So I would probably guide my child in that direction.

00:44:38.980 But, you know, if he proves his old man wrong, then he can do whatever he wants to do.

00:44:42.400 And I certainly wouldn't want to force a kid who would be better off enlisting or going

00:44:47.160 to trade school or starting to work.

00:44:48.520 I wouldn't want to force him into a quarter million dollar liberal education that by that

00:44:52.700 time probably will be worth not very much.

00:44:55.140 Okay, that's our show.

00:44:56.580 I am out of here, but I will see you on Monday.

00:44:58.900 In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles.

00:45:00.020 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:45:01.020 See you then.

00:45:01.340 Hey guys, over on the, uh,

00:45:31.340 The Matt Walsh Show today, we're going to talk about infanticidal Democrats who just 0.75

00:45:34.460 cannot manage to quell their enthusiasm for killing babies. 0.98

00:45:39.560 Now the governor of Virginia is suggesting that we kill babies outside of the womb. 0.97

00:45:44.600 He's tried to backtrack from it, but he can't change what he actually said. 0.51

00:45:47.780 And we'll talk about that today.

00:45:49.300 Also, uh, the media was very upset yesterday, not over the infanticide thing.

00:45:53.140 They were upset because Howard Schultz doesn't know how much a box of Cheerios costs.

00:45:57.000 Is that a legitimate reason to attack him?

00:45:59.560 Of course it is not.

00:46:00.620 But we'll talk about that today as well over on The Matt Walsh Show.

The Michael Knowles Show - January 31, 2019

Ep. 290 - Fourth Trimester Abortion

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